Topic: Murderers

Survivors and supporters characterize federal agents as murderers and liars who acted with a "Wyatt Earp" lawman fantasy during the Waco siege. The discussion contrasts the destructive actions of the government with the constructive efforts of the volunteers rebuilding the church. Speakers reject federal authority, stating the government holds no spiritual or moral power over them.

The hosts provide final commentary on the tragedy, labeling the government's actions as mass murder and criticizing the use of tanks against a building containing men, women, and children. One speaker asserts that they would have refused orders to drive a tank into the structure, emphasizing the innocence of the victims before transitioning to a musical tribute titled 17 Little Children.

The host criticizes the Texas State Legislature for only meeting every two years and failing to pass meaningful criminal laws. Claims are made that individuals convicted of murder, rape, or arson can be released in as little as two years with a good lawyer. The host urges citizens to contact their representatives to demand stricter sentencing and less focus on special interests.

The host provides an update on lawyer Eric Mobius, who was disbarred despite a jury finding him not guilty of alleged misconduct. The discussion links Mobius to claims of money laundering and notes that a judge unusually sealed the autopsies in the Austin yogurt shop murder case. The host reveals that the District Attorney's office subpoenaed ACTV tapes following a previous interview with Mobius.

A caller asks for information regarding Eliza Thomas, one of the victims of the yogurt shop murders, and her connection to the Catholic Church. Inquiries are also made about the whereabouts of Skip Sarathy and the book sales of his wife, Barbara Sarosky. The host concludes the show, announcing a return the following Tuesday at 9 p.m.

A concluding commentary emphasizes that regardless of David Koresh's theology, citizens in a free society have the right to express differing points of view without facing government assassination. The events at Waco are characterized as a dangerous precedent where the administration allegedly scoffed at the law and engaged in a cover-up. The segment reiterates that the death of innocent civilians at Mount Carmel should be viewed as a grave violation of American liberty that requires accountability.

Paul Fatta lists the federal charges brought against him, including conspiracy to murder federal agents and manufacturing automatic weapons. He describes his experience in county jail, noting that other inmates initially feared the Branch Davidians due to media coverage. However, he claims many prisoners eventually showed respect for the group because they stood up against the government system.

The discussion turns to the failure of the legal system to hold government officials accountable for the Waco siege. A previous civil case naming officials from Janet Reno down was dismissed by the same federal judge who presided over the criminal trial in San Antonio. Speakers argue that while the legal system may be corrupt, there is no statute of limitations on mass murder, and moral accountability remains.

The conversation shifts to broader patterns of government violence, comparing the Waco incident to contemporary no-knock drug raids where agents wear masks and open fire on citizens. The case of Paul Fatta is highlighted; Fatta served 12 years in prison for conspiracy to kill a federal agent despite allegedly not being present at the Mount Carmel site during the 1993 shootout.

After surviving the Mount Carmel fire and receiving treatment at Parkland Hospital, Clive Doyle and other survivors faced federal charges in San Antonio. In February 1994, a jury found the defendants not guilty of conspiracy to murder federal agents. However, several survivors were convicted on a secondary charge of carrying a weapon during a violent crime, leading to controversial 40-year sentences that were later reduced to 15 years following Supreme Court intervention.

Bureaucrats at the Travis County Commission reportedly refused to play a specific tape regarding gun control and mass murder. The footage, previously featured by Jeff Danikil, compares certain gun control measures to historical authoritarian tactics. Investigations into why the tape was suppressed by local officials are ongoing as activists prepare to enter the meeting.

Members of an elite Mexico City militarized police force known as The Foxes reportedly interfered with a murder investigation to protect 14 comrades. Clad in black ski masks and wielding clubs, the officers obstructed investigators at a crime scene related to a highly publicized torture and murder case.

Catherine Madison discusses her experience being jailed and charged with conspiracy to murder federal agents following the siege. Although the charges were dismissed the next day, she was held in solitary confinement as a material witness. She was eventually moved to the home of a lawyer after a judge intervened, where she lived in seclusion for over a month.

Waco survivor Catherine Matteson describes her experience facing federal charges of murder and conspiracy to murder following the siege. She details how her initial charges were dismissed after 24 hours, only for her to be held in solitary confinement as a material witness. Matteson recounts being eventually moved to a private residence under the supervision of a lawyer and a judge.

Katherine Matteson details her experience being charged with conspiracy to murder federal agents before the charges were dismissed and she was held as a material witness. She describes the tactical destruction of the Mount Carmel building, alleging that government tanks rammed staircases and the refrigeration area. Matteson claims that the collapse of the heavy cement roof in the "bunker" area caused the deaths of women and children inside.

The speakers argue that independent thinkers are viewed as dangerous criminals by the "New World Order" because they do not follow mainstream media like CBS. A comparison is drawn between the heavy sentences given to political activists and the relatively light 5-to-30-year sentences given to murderers in Texas. They specifically mention a high-profile case involving a pickax murder as an outlier in typical sentencing patterns.

Witnesses and survivors claim that Branch Davidians attempting to escape the fire on April 19, 1993, were gunned down by federal agents. Derek Lovelock and other survivors report seeing people exiting the building only to be met with lethal force. The segment concludes that the inhabitants did not choose to die in the fire but were murdered by their own government, a claim supported by reports of 25 to 30 survivors who were never officially accounted for.

Jack DeVault argues that the federal government rigged the Waco trial to secure convictions despite the jury finding defendants not guilty of murder and conspiracy. He highlights that nine survivors received sentences totaling 248 years for minor charges. DeVault asserts the 1993 raid was unconstitutional and that the government is using imprisonment to justify the deaths of 82 people.

A dispute arises over a four-hour surveillance mission logged at the Austin Aviation Department involving a Starflight helicopter over a private residence. Lieutenant Beck suggests such flights are typically for documenting crime scenes or search and rescue operations, noting the high operating cost of $300 per hour. He denies that the helicopters are used for "joyriding" or unauthorized domestic spying.

Catherine Matteson recounts being charged with murder and conspiracy before the charges were dropped due to her poor eyesight, which made it impossible for her to sight a gun. The segment introduces her background in Austin, where she lived with other Branch Davidian associates and appeared on local Patriot-themed television programs.