1997 Interview With Lt. Beck Commander Travis County Swat Team [ Yx1WBKIG U]

00:00 I love Mike Hanson Archives. Get ready to run! Oh, that's beautiful. Mike is getting it on film. The two... Old Starflight and New Starflight. It's fantastic. Actually it's probably... Alex made a joke about the federal activities You're setting me up for something. No we're not, we promise! What are you going to fix him too? Ask you some simple... You making me laugh R.O., every time this happens you make me laugh. You're the one setting us up. We got a good Monica Lewinsky joke if you want to hear it. Well you want to hear it. We're here with Lieutenant Beck commander of the Travis County SWAT team and his offices on the fourth floor of the Travis County Command Center Sir? Okay where are you? I'll start with you go ahead. County SWAT Team Commander Lieutenant Beck fourth floor

01:02 Travis County Sheriff's Department. How you doing today, sir? Just fine how are y'all We appreciate you stopping and talking with us when we walked in we had the camera off one of your men was telling us about Training with a Delta Force but she wouldn't let us turn the camera on They were bullshitting ya They're bullshitting me They are well You told us in the past that Delta that you were in contact with Delta That's right they've been contacting you no it was a one-time deal just around the time we were talking about they just happened to call you and give you their that they had contacted me. I think i explained it to you once, they had contacted me about training up here and then after the San Antonio incident they never did The san antonio incident? Yeah You mean when they endangered public safety? I don't believe that...I dont think they did anything in san antonio The police chief said they tried to bribe him down there. Ali Philippus Did they try anything like that with you? No Now basically I do appreciate your taking this time with us on such short notice

02:05 great member of the community and we do appreciate your service, Lieutenant Beck. We've been told that the FEMA preparedness forces are here, Federal Emergency Management Agency are now in Austin. We just saw a news report this week about it but we were unable to find out exactly what type of training and where they're doing their training? I'm not aware of it. Seriously! Are you...I think what if I am correct on this they were

02:43 I think the purpose was to familiarize and train emergency response crews on chemical and biological hazards. That's this month? We're told that in January they are going to have a full-scale simulation, have you heard anything about the full scale simulation? No, I haven't heard that yet. The ones we talked to would be probably your firefighters an emergency medical service. So the military training has been called off here in Austin? For who, for Delta? You had told me months ago when you first raised this issue that they had contacted you... One of their front guys came to me and told me their plans mostly it was not it was not to train us It was not to train any people in this area

03:45 there was a site that they wanted to train at and it was to notify us that they would be here. Was that site the new drainage ditches complexes they put in East Austin? No, The area is east but it's not in East Austin I'm not even sure if its within city limits Is it the church? No It was an area east of town Its real isolated Had they not notified me of them coming there, no one would have even known. They could've come and gone and no one woulda known We're told they'd already come and gone from our sources in the fire department and police department They never came here Why are sources in the police department that cannot reveal themselves to someone at a very high level Have told us that they've actually been already training in East Austin? No Why would they train in East Austin

04:45 Well, it's funny. I just brought up East Austin and you said yes, East Austin It was east of Austin. I'm not even sure this area was in the city limits But you did say... I'll put it this way. I know where they were going to train at. I'm not gonna say where. I'll just say that there was a large tract of land that had some buildings on it where they were going to train No one would have even noticed that they had been there. But don't they have large military bases in mock towns to do that? Not necessarily, they have mount sites that they use Have you seen the television show when we play The Chief of Police interview in San Antonio? Yeah I've seen it Where they talk about the dishonesty, attempted bribery, endangerment of public safety, firing into an all night restaurant in Miami... I saw that That..I wasn't there so I can't answer that

05:39 It's only reasonable to assume, it's like our SWAT team. We have different training sites and after you train at one for so long doing entries you lose the value of the training because you go into an abandoned house that we might use once you know the layout your learning goes down because you know where everything is at ideally you need a different place every time Do you remember the conversation, Lieutenant Beck do you remember the conversation we had about nine months ago? About federal forces wanting to train with local law enforcement and also in some cases actually engage in law enforcement with them. And you said that would never happen are familiar with what's going on in the Hill Country now with the MPs riding around with the DPS No I'm not familiar there it's from my perspective It's not the military that wants to train

06:40 with law enforcement, there are some law enforcement that train with the military. This is kind of a misnomer this all goes back through... The center of it is counter narcotics and the reason the military provides training It all has to do with counter-narcotics they're not going to train you assault towns or stuff like that. Everything has to be related to narcotic enforcement, the military will provide the training and it is not really the type of training what you think it is It's not military per se, it all has to do with narcotic enforcement And its geared towards smaller departments that can't afford training In our department we've taken advantage of it too

07:37 You have to understand the reason that we're always so skeptical about this due to the San Antonio Express news articles about the helicopters coming in, and automatic weapons fire with live ammunition in streets. uh... police chief saying that they did a bribery danger public safety no was never know they were dishonest with him that's the point what delta tells you and what the feds tell you from our experience other departments experiences from newspaper accounts they're dishonest cannot be trusted now it's funny i don't want my turn he said you got a visit from delta forces front person it wasn't why say at the front man he was one of them

08:18 more properly, it's one of their advanced guys and he came here to give me notification that they would be training at a particular area. And it was to give us advance notice so that we would not have people calling in saying there are a bunch of people running around with guns and stuff and having law enforcement agencies responding out there. Did they train? No Why did they not train? I suppose the San Antonio had a lot to do with it, but they did not come here. And as far as training here now... No! Our sources deep inside Fort Hood have notified us that at this time they are planning to train here in January

09:06 I don't know why they would. But you have to realize, Lieutenant Baker, that I've been five steps ahead of this. Right. I tell you what's going to be happening in the future and I assure you they planned a train here and they've been lying if they told you otherwise There's no reason for them to lie. When they train, what is the secret of it? Congressman Lloyd Doggett in an open letter to the Austin American Statesman several weeks ago said that there will be a full-scale anti-terrorism simulation sometime in January and that the advance teams would be here in December. FEMA?

09:42 That's not Delta. Well, Delta and Marine Force Recon and others according to the Houston Chronicle are attached to FEMA when they do these full scale... I don't know that. I would be surprised if there are any military at all attached to FEMA they're not going to be..I wouldn't suspect that they're special operations people They more likely the NBC, the guys who were trained Nuclear, chemical and biological. a derailment or a truck overturns, or you could have a terrorist or someone who came up with some biological weapon. How are the locals going to respond? Did you see our program that happened September 3rd and 4th we actually scooped

10:52 CNN News about two weeks. We were airing it a week after the incident, about a week after September 3rd and 4th Marine Force Recon 75 officers to go back and train others did mock gun confiscations in Hebron Maryland And while they were doing it during the daytime It was medical reasons They were doing mock injuries, mock chemical attacks and then at night it took in their true role which was gun confiscation and the camera people were told turn their cameras off in their own state I'm not familiar with that. What do you mean by gun confiscation? They were doing mock gun confiscation door-to-door, with citizens that had agreed to go along with it. Ah...I find that horridly blue Well you've seen the other programs You might have missed this one Perhaps i'll shoot ya off a VHS copy A half inch copy and bring it to you LaTone That's fine I assure you I am not exaggerating Well this is my day today business This SWAT And I pretty much know

11:55 what's going on, you know in our mission and I assure you it is strictly law enforcement. We don't have any military ambitions or we don't... Mission purview? ...we don't operate along those lines What about the armored personnel carriers? I know Austin has them DPS has them are y'all attempting to purchase some? Purchase no acquire yes Free ones from the military if it's possible and that specifically we need one. Were any of your men or were you out last Friday after the UT Texas A&M football game when they had the Travis County helicopters going down the streets and armored personnel carrier out there? After the football game, we worked the football game I mean after the football game on Guadalupe Street

13:01 No, that was DPS and UT police. Well I could kick myself for missing it but now I've talked to around 30 eyewitnesses that they had police literally shutting down the road marching down in riot gear with an armored personnel carrier rolling from behind and the new Travis County Sabre 1 and Sabre 2 police helicopters We don't have any police helicopters Star Flight has a new helicopter It's configured for medical missions. There are no law enforcement helicopters, DPS has one or two here. Lieutenant Beck I think you were kind of smiling there first? Well I am smiling about it and the reason I am is you know why. We at the Sheriff Department explored the idea of getting a helicopter for law enforcement

13:59 And you were quite vocal over there. I think mostly the budget is what shut us down, but there is a need for a helicopter exclusively for law enforcement. I would actually agree with that, but when we read the purchase orders it said Sheriff's Department Command Complex as part of the decentralization plan which i'm sure you're familiar with The problem is we now have the head of EMS what his name? Chubby fella We actually have that on tape, the Head of EMS telling us

14:37 the sheriff's department use your own crews and then it's saber one and saber two. No that's no, we don't have any flight crews here as a matter of fact had this had we been able to acquire helicopter we were going to train some officers to be pilots and I was asked to be one of them and the only reason i've got commercial multi-instrument seaplane. I've got a gobs of fixed wing experience and also have years as a crew chief on helicopter. In Vietnam? No, I was in the Marines from 69 to 72 and then in National Guard and the reason it would take me about 30 hour transition course to go over from fixed wing to rotary wing we don't have any crews

15:29 The Sabre 1 and Sabre 2 are radio calls. When Starflight is on a law enforcement mission, that's the radio calls that they'll go by. Are you aware that a national magazine has picked up that story? The Free American. And it actually... We have Tower Records from Simian Tungle at Austin Aviation Department. We also have Karen Sonnlautner finally admitting it in court that my mother got a four-hour surveillance mission over her house and then... I see, you had talked to me about that. First off, I don't think.. They said it was APD piggybacking. APD piggybacking? What do you mean? That's Karen Sunwinder she said it was an A... She said it was a Austin Police Department piggyback surveillance mission Now if that

16:23 Just off what I'm guessing it may have been the Star flight helicopter APD may have requested to use it for some reason for a murder investigation of my parents and it was a murder investigation across town at Mike's house. A murder investigation of your parents? That is what, well it was over their property For an hour straight taking photos of my mother above not even 150 feet I can see them using a helicopter to take pictures of an area. Now we've done that before, we've had homicides or especially homicides where we want to get an overall picture of the area they'll use the helicopter that's only thing we have

17:21 And they have done that before, though videotape it take some stills. That becomes evidence it's a helpful investigative tool for the detectives. It's also good if when you go to court when you have a jury You can say the body was found right here, here's the road. The murder weapon was here. They do use that for their... There was a murder a year and half ago about half a mile from where my parents lived and we would have bought that story of what happened October 9th but then October 10 in early hours actually October 11 by then

17:59 Mike calls me at 2 in the morning and says we have a helicopter flying over, turning on its light only when it gets here. He got the actual video by the time he got his camera out and got it, got two more passes which flies over turns to slide on That's a separate part of Austin 15 miles away Then my girlfriend calls without even knowing about this crying that a helicopter was shining a light into her windows at her place in central Austin There is only two Starflight helicopters We are very... When we use them We're very picky when we use them because it costs money. I'm just off top of my head is we probably pay operating cost maybe $300 an hour for the helicopters, fuel maintenance crew and all that so you just don't call up say hey let's go take some pictures It better be something good And it better be worth the money but just joyriding around no The law enforcement we don't do that

18:58 A helicopter with four hours of fuel? That's something I'm not familiar with. Well, it was logged in at the tower as a 4-hour surveillance mission. The primary purpose of those two helicopters is star flight for medical. Matter fact if right now if I needed a helicopter for law enforcement reason and they were on a medical run or something the medical takes priority And that's why the Sheriff Department wanted a helicopter exclusively for law enforcement. And that has happened in the past where we wanna use a helicopter for search or something, are up at the lake have a boat overturned or missing kids or something. Or something comes up where we have escapee We can't get to helicopter because they're either on medical run. Not that not the type don't get this.

19:50 Ready? No, not the type of what we want. Why don't you turn Lieutenant Beck S Commander of the Vauphin SS here in Central Texas. Ah y'all bowl and I know that'll be on TV. Can we get a shot of your patch? You've already got up to shot of the patch. So y'all are the strike Cobras Actually this patch was stolen from the Tulsa, Oklahoma PD and if any of them were watching and they see it They're gonna say whoa. But no that's a SWAT patch similar to a SWAT patch Tulsa PD has so that's your strike Cobra It's not a strike Cobra there is always the mongoose There is always the mongoose

20:42 Y'all gonna crush it? No, no. These patches like I've told you in the past we wear these uniforms We would like to change things out get gray go to gray anything well that's a funny thing in the penal code It says that for officers to give tickets or to Arrest people they have to be in proper uniform and that's a dark gray or dark blue where the captain matches That doesn't say that Yes it does Huh? We got it in the car Uniforms come in all colors. I'm talking about for SWAT the black get away from the black you don't like black Not particularly it's hot in the summer At nighttime this sticks out almost like a white who wanted you and black This is this goes back years and years ago when first SWAT teams were in black None of us liked it all of us want to change to a different color, but I mean you got

21:38 finances always comes back to me. Yes, Beck? You got people making sure we were alright on the phone line. A few other questions what do you think about Brady 2 and the computers not working the first few days and people not being able to purchase firearms personally pisses me off I have not used it yet but i think whole thing's a crock But won't we be safer when only criminals can have guns

22:15 You know the answer to that. You're not gonna... you're going to find the staunchest supporters of citizens, their right to bear arms is gonna be at the cops? Well I've seen that and read it in a lot of law enforcement magazines The problem is people who give your orders are trying to make them completely illegal Who gives us our orders? All the federal money that comes into these areas, the people who get elected by the moron citizenry

22:51 That's who you take your orders from, is it not? I should say no but perhaps in a roundabout way. But uh no we don't get orders like that and we never are and i don't know about Brady too now the whole brady bill is a bunch of crap but... Now you've got actually the Delta Force numbers on there inside your little Rolodex don't you? I have a business card can we see the business card Lieutenant Vick, you've seen it before Alex. Can we see it one more time? We'll cover up the name. Why cover up the name I just want to get a close-up of the symbol. I don't think there's that symbol on it is there yes there's a symbol there's a symbol they'll get the numbers on it though that camera can't get close enough yeah oh let us get a shot at assemble it's just a typical it's uh as far as I know it's just what does that Department Army symbol on yep

23:52 There's nothing special about Delta Force. It's a military outfit, they're in the arming... It's just the most elite military team out there? That's an opinion Maybe the Israelis are more... Well you go to... I'm sure in Israel, Israeli would tell you that if you ask a Navy SEAL he is going to tell you that Well I think the Israelis get more practice than the real deal You know if you ask Marine force recon he's gonna tell ya' he's the most elite Mike get close up of this, I want a close-up with the symbol Well, there's a Delta Force. Come on! Don't burn us out. It's like a 10 year old camera and won't even get close-ups. Department of Defense should say United Socialist of America. There you go. Did you get it? We have it. I'll see what else we want... Hit Lieutenant back nice You don't have any other numbers in there? Personal stuff What about Marine Force Recon

25:05 I was in the Marine. These guys got better things to do than come to Austin and mess around They tried to come to Austin Delta Force did Yes, but i want to ask you why if they're not so dangerous Why did a police chief former military Ali Philippus In San Antonio say they tried to bribe him? I don't know what happened down there I mean Delta force is counter-terrorist and it can very easily... The United States is the most open country in the world for terrorists. And we have not yet begun to see terrorist acts, and the only thing they're doing is training. Are you familiar with Oklahoma City? Somewhat. I mean, you've got to know being in Marines and being a pilot and everything else that that building was blown out, not in there was no crater. I don't know that. I didn't see that. What about the seismographs

26:10 What about the BATF and FBI being off the 9th floor? There were ATF agents killed in that. No, I've got the Senate hearings... It was my understanding that there were some ATF agents killed in it. I know there was some federal law enforcement officers who perished in that. Well, if it's a federal office building So, basically again we're talking to Lieutenant Beck commander of the Travis County Strike Force team and... No. Again we're... The strike... Yeah the strike force team yeah. Again were here talking with Lieutenant Beck commander of the Travis County SWAT Team You do not know where the NBC teams are training this week in Austin? And you haven't heard that they are here in Austin?

27:05 Now, mostly from what I've read on it FEMA's come from the newspaper. And like I told you, I don't think law enforcement is that big a role player in it. I think mostly its for the firefighters and medical personnel. Just to get used to working with FEMA and being friends? Are you familiar with the Senate hearings about FEMA and concentration camps? Are you familiar that the Manazar prison camp has been reopened? The camp in the high desert of California that held 110,000 Japanese. New fences are being put up and... Was it someone's private resort now or...? No It says Department of Justice Federal Prison Camp I'm not aware of that My immediate concerns are Travis County And we don't get involved with things Is that military time on your watch

28:07 Yes it is. That's military time You're heading back to New Orleans today, aren't you? Yeah Well we'll let you get out of here Lieutenant Beck I appreciate the time What are you going to do if Delta Force tries to come back into Austin Try to get some training out of them or get some whatever equipment they had that's not nailed down and they're not looking. I guess we'll take it." Do you think exposing corruption had anything to do with the fact that Delta Force decided not to attempt a train here? No, I don't know why. They said they were going to train, correct?" I can see their point-of-view

28:47 We train once a week and if I could do it, I would change the training site every week. It's counterproductive to go to the same place every time and train. There serves no purpose. And if I could move my people every week to a different training site- With a new restaurant to fire bullets into? When they mean By live ammo. Ceramic? The ceramic type. But you saw the article on my television show, they fired into an all out restaurant I'm sure it was not intentional What about the crash in the helicopter in Sugar Land Texas last year? I'm not aware of that That was Delta You also saw the article if you saw the show about them doing $100,000 damage to a warehouse in New Orleans

29:42 That's easy to do. Now the price figure, I don't know we have gone to training sites where i have had to tell the people you know watch what you're doing Don't kick this and don't overturn that it's really easy to do it during tactical operations when your going in you might want hit a door or something like that and I can see were yes you could do some damage That's something that we face all the time too. Well, do you share the Chief of Police in San Antonio's view that you don't want to endanger public safety by having these military teams ransacking areas? No I don't they're not going to endanger public safety

30:30 That's the American military we're talking about. They are not going to endanger... But are they the American military? Did you read the paper this Tuesday about the German troops being... The Germans have been here for years. Since 1991? Prior to that! Why now, is there such a big furor? Because what they're doing is low-level flying in their tornados and jets They're doing some low-level flying in West Texas and it has some of the sheep and cattle farmers out there upset. That's been going on for years, the German Air Force has been here for years and years I think they're out of Luke in Tucson matter fact or also out of Holloman actually maybe I don't know but actually leased the base okay they have been here for years do they have diplomatic immunity

31:19 I don't think so. They're claiming it? I don't know. Oh, they're claiming that... Diplomatic immunity means you can run somebody over with this. No, that was brought up. The uh..I am somewhat familiar with the tornado jet that they are flying is a low level of attack deal and i can see why they would be training here in the southwest there's nothing in Europe like that where they could be training and you can imagine if their training for Middle East Where it's flat? Yeah, but that has been going on. I mean even back into the 60s they have trained here What about the Russians out of Fort Hood? I don't think there are any Russian at Fort Hood Have you been with the Russians? Have i've been with the Russians no So you haven't been in contact with the Russians out of Fort Hood No We were...this unit we trained at Fort Hood about two months ago at one of them outsites

32:21 Mount sites? Mout, m-o-u-t. It's the complex where they have the buildings and stuff But you didn't... No it was our own team training You know you can go to these army bases I've been like Fort McClellan over in Alabama And that you'll see soldiers from different countries there You know you'll see English and German British I mean... And Russian If there are Russian soldiers there, I would imagine that they're armor. Probably tank and that there's probably...I wouldn't say there was that many and there were probably officers over here for some exchange program or something like that You know my own son when he was in the Coast Guard two years ago in Alaska The Russians sent over a cutter type ship And they trained together

33:27 on sea rescues. Do you think it was a good thing that President Clinton transferred the nuclear weapons, guidance propulsion separation and multi-warhead delivery system to the Chinese military? Obviously that's not a good idea but I don't know if that occurred You haven't heard about that in press? Yeah, I think I've read something about it How does it feel to know our military serving under President Clinton? I'm not a Clinton fan like I said before, Clinton is not going be here very long

34:02 He's not getting impeached. Did you hear about Henry Hyde, Judiciary Committee Chairman refusing to investigate him? Refusing to investigate him on campaign finance as the China connection under... Clinton is not the last one. They say he is a commander-in-chief and there are a lot of... but he is not the final say I mean he has advisors and there's... Like Sandy Berger, Secretary of Defense William Cohen who created the new 50 teams and other 10 teams with FEMA. So you're saying Clinton's held back by Madeline Albright and he wasn't born here? I would hope so. You know she was born in Czechoslovakia. Her father was a communist diplomat. Why are there all these communists, do you remember John Shelley Cashvely, chairman joint chief of staff

34:58 He was from Poland, wasn't he? Yeah. He was from Poland. His father... Do you remember back in 1992 the big Senate hearings when Colin Powell resigned and didn't want to work under Clinton and he put Cash Vilian and the Senators asking about his father running death camps for the Nazis? I remember there was some, not exactly that. I know there were some controversy about it. Well my point is this is how serious it is we need y'all and this stuff is...I know at times it seems comical all the wild stuff we talked about but then later you see what happened you get the phone calls from these people what I'm trying to say to you Lieutenant Beckett's is y'all are the Achilles heel in this New World Order system which is real when you got a president

35:40 with Cash Vealy who can barely speak English sitting on his daddy's knee while he was putting Jews in the ovens. You've got Madeleine Albright, Secretary of State born in Czechoslovakia the daughter of a communist diplomat you've got Secretary Defense William Cohen of blue blood from the East Coast totally selling out our nation. We've got Sandy Berger National Security Advisor that talks about global regimes of power at CFR meetings on C-SPAN. You've got this whole collection people Are you familiar that the Panama Canal has now been handed over to the Chinese military? I wasn't aware of the Chinese. Well, you know that back in 1978 and 79 Carter said by 2000 it'll be given up fully and our troops will be pulled out by 1996 That was an agreement we had with the Panamanians But what you have to realize is is that wasn't a jungle and we built that The French weren't able too Do you think its good security arrangement to allow the Chinese military to now have four ports on the Panama Canal

36:38 I was unaware that they had ports down there. Taking the Panama Canal back could be done in a couple of hours, if need be. Because it's in our hemisphere of influence? If it played such a strategic role and the United States had to take that thing back in half a day it would be back under our control. Perhaps today and perhaps when the time comes we don't have leadership like President Clinton in the White House with his collection of bloodthirsty Europeans at his side, The point is that America's being contained its being encircled and I think it's a dangerous trend to allow Chinese military to have four main ports both entrance at the east side exit west side of Panama Canal Trust

37:33 Trust him. Trust Clinton? No, I don't trust Clinton Who do you trust? Very few...very few people. I trust my wife that's about it You and your wife back together and everything Yeah yeah we're trying to work things out I won't put that on TV Well Lieutenant Beck thanks for all the time If Delta Force comes into town And they are ever trying to confiscate firearms Are you going up against them? Delta force is not gonna come here How are you gonna confiscate guns Well, what if they're going door to door? How are you gonna do that? What if FEMA during an emergency wants you to go say the 50 different houses and pick up dangerous people. As I said before it will never come to that. If Clinton says take all the guns for the next 25 years there will be bickering among the different agencies on which one is gonna be in charge of it who's gonna do it It'll never happen

38:37 It's physically impossible. Lieutenant Beck, will you protect and defend the Constitution from enemies foreign or domestic? I have sworn to that. That is something we have done in the military. That is something we do as law enforcement. But President Clinton gave that oath when he gave the missile secrets to the Chinese Well...that's his problem. Not all of us...Clinton may be president but he's not our leader He's not Fortunately, he's made a lot of mistakes and he is going to pay for them. Do you think he is going to be impeached? No! Regardless if he is impeached or what... He is not going to be the next president. Well his term is up. But do you think that he IS going to be punished? Who cares?! Who cares!? You are just sick of him I don't dislike him and I don't like him who cares it's no

39:51 You know, you can censor this. It's no sweat off my balls what he does. If he wants to go and do whatever more power to him! Just give the Chinese in Panama Canal? Give them their missile secrets? No not that I'm talking about his own private affairs We didn't even bring those up Huh? As far as... Now that Panama Canal has been in a treaty but we knew for years and years it was going back to the Panamanians that it was going back to them. And I'm sure, you know... perhaps it helps their economy? I don't know! But I know even though if there's Chinese down there

40:38 We still control it. But what about 20 years from now? Is there industrialized law? It comes down Whatever country has the most money to throw around is the country that's gonna rule it And that's the point that we're trying to make here if we had good leadership here Leadership won't cut they wouldn't have they would well the will to activate troops To defend that canal We're allowing the Chinese military to come in. What happens 20 years down the road, which is a blink in real politics when we've got another person like Clinton perhaps worse? Look what the American people are accepting now. What will they accept in the future?" I have no idea." See, I believe traitors have taken this nation over. I believe we've been usurped". Well, we probably on the road to downslide ever since the Constitution was signed. We probably started the downslide right then and there or possibly even when

41:32 European settlers came over. I'm sure that the Indians will say, well we started going to shit right then and there may be some truth in that. The United States is a very young country... So if President Clinton let's say allowed foreign troops in and declared a UN emergency. We saw his speech at the UN six months ago about starting bringing in UN forces to try to stop drugs as a new crusade. That's not... That's a Clinton fantasy? It's not feasible, number one there are enough if you're going involve the military in that we have enough troops second of all when your talking UN

42:22 soldiers from different countries. They don't speak, not all of them speak English there's a language barriers there's equipment barriers so they're gonna need y'all help whose help? Ours? Yes to do yes well they would they would not it is highly unlikely that we're going to have Italian soldiers in Del Rio stopping marijuana shipments What about if they put in the national grid of biometrics, thumb scanners or retina scanners to get driver's license as they've already done and then they connect it all on a national grid on that basis. Wouldn't that bring the jurisdiction they need? The control? How are they going to control? I mean you got thumbs scanned didn't ya? Yes but i refuse it the second time have you heard about the listening devices being put up by the feds here in Austin

43:15 I heard that from Steve, was it you or Steve Lane here last week? It was on the news. That's...I first heard about it from if it was Steve Have you heard anything else about the listening devices No but its stupid What purpose? I asked Steve about why and he said there were something they could triangulate gunshots or something like that That what you got neighbors and telephones for So your saying we don't need these federal listening devices that are being put in here in Austin Not for that purpose I don't know what purpose other, that's the purpose that he told me. That they could triangulate gunshots or what else? The cameras on where is this Mopac or something? I understood it was where they could occasionally well they would have a bank of screens and occasionally they can monitor traffic and see if there was any tie ups or problems- But the new FEMA center you heard about

44:19 I don't know. I'm not real familiar with FEMA. Well, the new FEMA center we passed the money for it in the last bond election last month My only knowledge of FEMA is that federal agency that comes in after natural disasters, like the floods. That come in and assess damage... Help the children? Yeah well help the children help people. That's my knowledge of them as far as them I doubt if they're involved with anything military at all

45:04 You doubt that they're involved in anything military? I doubt that. I don't know. Well, Lieutenant Beck thanks a lot for saying... Thanks for saying you'll protect and defend the Constitution. I will! Strike Force Commander Lieutenant Beck now to our APC Let me tell you something about Quentin though He's gonna wait four years and run again And his wife is going to run in 2000 Oh no! That already came out on Larry King last night Did you hear Monica went to her plastic surgery? No. And she said, I want to get my love handles removed. Oh yeah that's crazy. He said why? You won't be able to hear. Get back, get back. You want to sit down and talk? Tell us the Monica joke. No, I got a group here. Tell us the Monica joke! Alright here we go

45:57 You gonna put this on TV? I'm putting it in the roll-in. Okay, no what are you going to do put it on the roll-in! No listen say say this is Lieutenant Beck and I got a I got a Clinton joke. It's lieutenant back I gotta... Lieutenant Beck commander Travis County SWAT team. All right now have a sense of humor anyways Monica went to her start over with them with this is lieutenant back Travis county Sheriff's Department we do have a sense of humor Monica went to her plastic surgeon She asked the plastic surgeon, remove my love handles. The doctor looked and said why? You wouldn't be able to hear! That's good. Got any more important numbers here we should look at? No hell no. Any more Delta Force numbers or anything? Commander... Ah Saddam Hussein he is calling me. Calling you because nobody else does. Hey listen!

46:56 Who you gonna hit, Commander? I'm going to hit up the Commissioner's Court. What is this shit? Oh that's a bid. Now was that Delta Force... No no this is uh... That's a Delta Force communicator? No, that's something else. No this is a uh... Delta force giving you call lately? Nah. No, our van. We used to have a black van that we carried our equipment in Oh you've got a brand new expedition don't ya? Nah it's last year Big shiny black one? Big dirty black one You gonna put a big skull inside? Nah actually I think in March I'm getting transferred Where? Patrol! I'm going be on the uh... reorganization You been punished? It's just a reorganization Are you gonna get paid the same?

47:58 Well, are they gonna put maybe a guy in a pink uniform in here? Yeah. A tutu Pink tutu. Is that the sheriff's idea? I don't know Now it is...I don't think there will be a SWAT lieutenant It'll be uh Al will still be here Basically they're gonna find somebody that does want to go door-to-door and take up their guns No no it's a complete reorganization Here it is right here Central Command That's East Oh, you're going to be a command over patrol? Yeah. I'll be on midnights. I have two sergeants and thirteen officers Two sergeants and thirteen officers? Thank-you very much General Anyways listen Do you want off SWAT? No...well put it this way You're a nice guy that's why they are throwing you off SWAT Probably so If my job was purely SWAT

48:59 I would love to stay here, but there's more to it. I have narcotics, the intelligence unit... Oh the intelligence unit? It's criminal intelligence Mostly we deal with parolees and stuff. There's a lot of bullshit that comes with this, and we also have the warrants If it was purely SWAT I'd love it but with the little extras You know they can they can have it really yeah, so you're gonna give up the black uniform for the brown All right, oh see on all our be a black shirt. You'll get a brown shirt a brown shirt there We go get my Brown Jack boots, and thanks a lot if I get a sword or not what?

49:41 You even know, ooh you want a sword. Actually yeah I gotta have a sword SS Sword? Uh...I don't know It's either that or pirate Oh let me ask you one more question I know you've been here with us for an hour but last question of about 20 I'm serious you have to go and understand Tell us real fast Lieutenant Beck before ya head outta town I know you've been working hard all week How come yall are so cowardly that you won't have a shooting contest with me when I'll defeat you up and down the street No one backed out Sheriff Frazier determined that it would probably be in the best interest not to do it. Some people would take it in good light and support it, and I'm sure there were other people who would take it the wrong way and give us all a hard time about it. We saw some Marines when we first came here what were they doing here? The Marines? Were they in uniform? They're recruiters

50:42 Oh, the Marines are here recruiting officers? No no no. Our central records is located on this floor and up here you'll see the Army recruiters Air Force Navy Marines they come up there doing background checks on recruits to see if they have arrest records So y'all aren't getting some relationship with them Hello folks and stay tuned for more classics here on Mike Hanson archives in our new channel Waco archives and don't forget our oldest channel Mike Hanson Archives Here on YouTube Stay tuned for more but make sure y'all get everybody to subscribe to Hanson Archives And the new one, Waco Archives. We're busy every day uploading more and more videos

51:41 We have hired somebody to do that and bought the equipment to do it. It's a lot of work, if you would like to help out with that situation send us $25 and I will send you my book and everything that comes in from my book will be used to fund this these three channels So stay tuned right here to YouTube and Facebook. I am Mike Hanson from Gonzales, Texas on Facebook Thanks a lot. God bless. I might get a free calendar out of one of them. They just come up and visit military? No they don't visit they don't even they don't come to SWAT They go to Central Records their check-in see if the applicant has an arrest record Just tell us there coming in takeover

52:33 No, no. These young guys now in the service? Nah! They're just up visiting? No they're working I mean they have to...they are doing background checks on their little recruits that they are taking in Gotcha Well thank you very much General Alright This is Desi Moriah Andrews and I love Hanson Archives and Waco Archive on YouTube. And Mark Hanson Archives! He forgot to tell me that folks. Oh, and I love Desi Andrews. What's this? Between me and LeBlanc.

53:16 Is that who's gotten the most arrests personally? No. These guys, they go out and they'll make... Hold on let me turn the camera They make two or three hundred arrests a year Hold on hold on hold on you're saying We're here talking to Strike Force Commander Lieutenant Beck No we're here talking... Lucky strike force I quit smoking We're here talking to Lieutenant Beck commander Travis County Squad Team And right here we have team one huh? We have team 2 And here's the thing, you can see I'm running out of time. I made three and a half arrests and he's ahead of me by... This is for Saturday night live? What two and eight ninths or something No we don't see these guys that they make 100 arrests per month We don't do that these are just little... Oh let me ask you question what'd you think of Kirk Watson the mayor Austin giving all the legislators zero parking tickets? I don't get that but you get that? No Why did Kirk Watson do this? I don't know good question

54:19 Can you get me one? I hear that. I need to have immunity from parking tickets. What's he doing, letting all the legislatures... What did i say? I forgot what I said. Uh what'd you say that uh you sure wish you had one too or no yes sir um what do you think of Mayor Kirk Watson coming out and saying that State legislators in Austin don't get tickets. They're immune from it I mean they ought to all get a ticket they all they ought to all get tickets no favoritism, but Kirk Watson what they're not better than anybody else No better than anybody else if you do something wrong that deserve a ticket and what'd you say Kirk Watson's doing to him

57:42 Seriously. Where would y'all park your APC? Downstairs? It wouldn't be used, maybe... So you're saying Delta Force rode right up on this elevator? One guy? But the front man as you called him. So the Delta Force front man rode up this elevator? Yeah we're putting a plaque here that uh... You give them guys... Don't let the special ops

58:21 You could deal with special ops, couldn't you? We're gonna need your help to come into town. Oh yeah! You gonna join up with the forces and smash them? The highest paid I guess would take me... The highest paid huh?! Are now... Look who we got here somebody that we haven't seen in about 20 years is late and great. Good to see you! George Humphrey. Oh my goodness, I see who it is! Tell us what you've been up too? Oh my goodness isn't this a great day? Yes amazing tell us why are you here hurry because of my Facebook. My heart is heavy

59:08 for the world, but my heart is also happy for the good people here. We need to get back to work and we need to realize that this cure it's not a cure it's not about a virus its about political control and we are free in sovereign and we have the choice either be slaves or to be free I choose to be free yes Well guess what I did? I bought about $20,000 worth of editing equipment and hired some people to put all the tapes on for the last 25 years, and you're on there. So I want you...and I got...I'm gonna plug my YouTube channel. Okay great! Mike Hanson Archives, Hansen Archives, and Waco Archives. I didn't recognize you at the start!! Okay so i need you to say

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