Jeff Davis With Gary Johnson Talking About Waco Massacre 20th Anniversary On April 19 2013 [M2lwZTtN5Dk]

00:00 guest right now is a jeff davis who is uh... patiently been the standing by in the japan i want to thank you for being with us here on little that we're going to be talking with you about uh... many things but one of the biggest thing that's happening jeff is this april uh... is the twentieth anniversary of the siege uh... at mount carmel uh... with the david correction the branch to be in the near waco texas i get this is uh... this is really something that we should not allow people to forget well it's i'd like i consider one of the darkest deadly moments their period of time and history of american law enforcement i don't think there's any question about it

00:47 Absolutely. April 19th is a big day and there actually, we'll talk about this after the break, there are several events that are going on and you mentioned Mike Hanson earlier. Actually Mike Hanson's arranging to have the people from austin go up to uh... waco on that it will not be uh... to market this anniversary and i know that you and i know there's a gone too anniversaries of uh... the tragedy at mount carmel the repeated that other survivors

01:24 uh... there they are uh... the really the nicest people you'd ever want to know their very peaceful and uh... honest in this straightforward people it's really a tragedy jeff what happened Well, just starting back Gary with on February 28th of 1993. Clive Doyle one of the Branch Davidian survivors The Jeff Davis Show did a special show subtitled Justice for the Davidians on November 1996 And Clive Doyle stated on the show that bullets were flying in to Mount Carmel building from the roof and through the wall. Branch Davidian, Winston's plate

02:12 was shot in the head and killed instantly while sitting in a room eating a piece of toast. Jeff is somebody who has been following the situation that occurred in Waco 20 years ago, I should say near Waco, 20 years ago at Mount Carmel with David Koresh and The Branch Davidians and the standoff with the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms, the ATF and the federal bureau of investigation, the FBI. The siege that began with more than a hundred armed agents coming onto this farm and shooting... And from helicopters! Don't forget. Yeah, coming in from the roof and the walls.

03:10 It was just an all out attack is what it was. An all out attack, absolutely Jeff. Winston Blake was shot in the head and killed instantly while he was eating a piece of toast That was February 28th what happened. And then from that day began a series of just outright atrocious lies in these daily FBI news conferences They would, the first day they said oh well there's child abuse in there. Well that was proven wrong Texas Child Protective Services investigated it and said it was completely baseless

03:58 uh... that next day they come out and they said all well there's a legal guns in the air and now what occurred there was one rifle but neither two hundred dollar tax to make it illegal then they come out and they said there is not glad that they were and apply their final day they come out may say at the or perfect day while this weather good enough so let's try their david crash steady with g that they pay you it was just absolutely atrocious what uh... fbi with those daily fbi news conference what they were doing just absolute bold-faced lies and unfortunately much of the american public bought

04:44 Because my recollection Gary is that the Jeff Davis show live and let live and smash the state with a three only. The media advocates there were against the whole thing from the beginning, i think there was a talk show host as well and can't remember his name in the dallas yeah i know you're talking about it but you are you that media was just buying this hook line and finger and passing along the government propaganda without question. that's exactly right it was absolutely a it would just like they do the same thing book and uh... preparation of some war world overseas saying kind of playing then that's one of the reasons why don't have to but all hold up at the media high-esteem from from the first day there were six dividends killed

05:41 uh... and then fifty one days of basically torture now carmel facility was uh... completely surrounded with the razor wire there's no way anybody could come out uh... the people had clive doyle stated on that The Jeff Davis show in 1996 that they had arranged for them to come out, but the FBI reneged on it. And then finally getting to the April 19th of 1993 basically what happened was that this was this was uh... uh... verified in a associated press story that appeared the austin american statesman on april nineteenth nineteen ninety three uh... tanker at tank drivers were given orders to jump into tanks and to drive those tanks into buildings occupied by men women and children

06:45 And 17 children died this way from blunt force trauma to the head, from the building and the crushing down on these people when the tanks came through. this with this this this action was verified and stated in court when the branch a few years later when the branch to be into where the ones on trial should have been the other way around that but government drive the tank until the children but at the end of the wonders on trial but this is one of the tank drivers are stated in this associate oppressed or stated in court he testified in court that he would give an order

07:28 to get jump into a tank and proceed to drive that take into buildings occupied by american men women and children this is the hostage rescue team they were there to rescue their workday well go back to will it was at the time uh... and remains one of the classic the all-time biggest issues of for the jeff davis show and so i did the idea to be in these people mean you know they said this is not an assault as we were solving the blame really was uh... a tragedy that should not be forgotten and uh... there are some event jim they're going to be held too uh... mark

08:19 the twentieth anniversary of the twenty-third anniversary of the last two days is on uh... people nineteen And in Waco, there is going to be a memorial of this. It's Friday April 19th and the 20th anniversary memorial on Friday April 19 will be at 9am in Waco at the Helen Marie Taylor Museum

08:56 of the life and history of Waco, that's at 714 Jefferson Avenue in Waco. And it'll be from 9 a.m to 4 p.m and I know that some of us will be going there actually uh... my cancer is a raging person transportation for a bunch of us to go from austin that memorial it is uh... it is something that's being there and put together by two of the remaining survivors of this uh... collided well he just mentioned and uh... sheila martin

09:36 who by the way lost her husband and three or four of her children on April 19, 1993. This whole incident Jeff is really something that it's something that cannot be forgotten and you know as we go through this year after year It's a, you know in many ways it was the turning point for a lot of people in America. I think that Waco really did wake up a lot of people who just were trusting the government and they just looked at this and said this is just not right

10:20 i agree with that uh... i think i think it's going to be hard press for him to do another waco style mass murder again anytime soon now we we didn't know here that the american government is you know currently though and has been for a long time killing americans citizens you know what to the perg apple like with these these uh... home drug raid you know where they break into people's homes in the middle of night wearing a black ski mask and open fire on people so they're killing people now but there hasn't really been a while, you know a Waco type incident were dozens killed. There was like ninety two people killed in Waco all different races

11:09 Right. Nationalities, most of them were Americans but they're well educated from Harvard and then even... The cases that happened, the things that happened to some of them after their family members were murdered were absolutely atrocious. Paul Fonda who I've been complaining about since 1993 he served 12 years in prison for conspiracy to kill a federal agent and he wasn't even in Waco at the time. He wasn't even in Waco, I know it was an office death

11:46 We're talking with Jeff Davis about what happened in Waco 20 years ago. You're listening to Livin' It Live on the Logos Radio Network. They are going have a memorial service in Waco on Friday, April 19th of this year at 9am at the Helen Marie Taylor Museum uh... it seven fourteen jefferson avenue will be from nine a m two four p m has been put together by clive doyle and sheila martin the to the remaining survivors of the siege at uh... now carmel uh... gray yeah what you have to say about this uh... to uh... just a bit

12:33 Hey, how are you doing? I'm okay. I just wanted to call to give you some credit man. It's something that you and I never get and we're the old timers who started all this stuff We were like 10 years before Alex You remember yeah, we go back a lot goes back a long ways Exactly. We were talking about FEMA camps back in 1990 And everybody thought we were crazy. We talked the black of the bike but not about the black helicopters and everything I mean, way before Alex. Which i have seen by the way people that dismiss that there has actually been black helicopters. I haven't seen any in probably 10 years but I've actually had black unmarked peapod helicopters hover over my residence during the 1990s

13:23 Well, I just want these youngsters to give you some credit and everybody else that had shows back then. Give them credit because we're all the old timers that started off without this there would have been none of this stuff today! Well, you know well you got to give what Gary Johnson was just there was out there too though and Terry Liberty Parker Yeah, Terry Parker. Yeah absolutely yeah, I mean this rain goes to show you that you just have to tell the truth and Just hang in there and there's a lot of good things going on like that the uh... states are lining up now to legalize pot only from uh... medicinal purposes that that but that's it big sign of freedom breaking out

14:09 Jeff, there's something big that is about to happen. I don't want to tell you about it on the radio because i don't want to blow it but uh... there's something big and we will do a show later on if you want too because all of the radio stations and tv stations will try to get ahold me to do this Something happened with all three agencies that will change things in America We will be changing things here real soon Well, send us an email or something Ray. By the way you can check out Jeff Davis on Facebook at facebook.com slash jeffdavisshow also youtube.com slash jeffdavissshow and youtube.com slash mikehansenarchives Anything else Ray?

14:58 Yeah, Jeff. This was caught on video so you'll be seeing this video nationwide and you will freak out when you see this video because you'll say God this is la-la land but everything that these cops could have done wrong they did wrong it shows america that they're not even following their own law but there's making up stuff ballpark type stuff you know i mean wow uh... all year completion mail yet there there at little criminal if it didn't get a bit of a very effective if u and i have never chosen citizen were

15:35 doing the things they were doing on a daily basis we'd be looking at fifty years to life in prison there out there calling people killing paypal terrorizing paypal absolutely cramble that these police today Now, let's just get this straight. There are good cops? Let me mention this since it just came up LAPD in their hunt for Christopher Dorner LAPD opened fire on at least seven people inside their cars thinking that was Christopher Dorner and they raided over 400 homes without a search warrant

16:17 Just absolutely terrorist. Exactly, they should not follow unlawful orders and there should be good cops stepping up against those bad cops and that's what needs to happen and uh... mother in my opinion all the days that you hear about on the radio and stuff it killed shot i think people finally they've been partly we feel a rope i think that there are a lot of these somebody that this guy put away for ten years per couple out to the pot you know that's what it felt like to be a minute picture probably four-part not taking anyone into saying you know what

16:53 from work we're going to take you know the court but what do you hear not doing it your corrupt the worker pay everything back well i don't believe in murder i'll believe anybody should be murdered back down even or to death penalty by the state that being said on i haven't shed any tears for the fallen prosecutor Yeah, I don't either. And I think there needs to be... FBI needs to do an investigation and get all these bad cops that are in there, get them out of there! The FBI? There wasn't even a man. Do you remember what the FBI did during the Waco species? They lied their butts off every single day at those daily news conferences

17:38 Yeah, but that was like the older FBI. There's a new one in town now and I think that they would do an investigation to get some of these bad cops out of there. Well, I don't know about that, Clay, but somebody needs to look into it. Maybe let's get a citizen panel and have them do a review of these cops and get some... And I do think that these cops should be like everybody else and have to do a P-test every month every month or legalized drugs. Okay, thanks. Anything else Ray? No that's it I'll be talking with Jeff here pretty soon and i'm sure we can get together because I got stuff to show him

18:20 Great, well keep us informed. All right well that's how it's done folks we are live on Sunday April 7th if you would like to call in the number is 512-646-1984 that's 512 646 1984 uh we're talking with Jeff Davis about the anniversary of the siege at mount carmel near waco texas with david koresh and the branch divinians in the a.t.f. and fbi shooting and burning killing more than 80 people in their home at Waco. Friday, April 19th is the 20th anniversary of the last day of the 51-day siege and there's going to be a memorial in Waco at the Helen Marie Taylor Museum at 714 Jefferson Avenue from 9am to 4pm

19:20 and possibly the speakers there will include Michael McNulty, Dick Revis James Spencer and Catherine Wessinger. And there's also going to be an event the previous day on Thursday April 18th at Baylor University called Reflecting on An American Tragedy The Branch Davidians 20 Years Later that will be at the Truett Seminary in Baylor University and that will be an event with a lot of speakers there. Jeff, why should people remember this event 20 years ago? Why should we not let this fade from our memory?

20:09 Well, first off Gary I'd like to see a lot of people make it to the memorial this year in Waco. It would be really nice. This is the 20th year, 20-year memorial uh... and you know if it's it's a special one in it'd be nice to see a lot of people out there that uh... updated this year uh... i think it's important here because first offer if uh... if you don't know history your you're likely to repeat exactly uh... mended up at their if people are outraged about government get given the tank and driving them into building

20:50 and kill an american men women children uh... you know that's that that that that that just totally analog up but did you just can't ever government going around killing people even though they're doing it coming but then the in a mass murder like that that you know in exactly uh... i think that um... i've got to know a lot of the branch to pay and then they're great people you know i'm going to be in around they've been on the net several of my been on the uh... on show it's it's just that it's a solemn day when you're up there everything seems very serene and that so yeah i i just i think it's important like if they because really to me probably the darkest and deadliest period in the history of american law enforcement

21:46 Jeff, we have less than two minutes left. You wanted me to ask you about gay marriage and immigration can you do that in about 30 seconds or did you just want to... I can't because the government doesn't have any business being involved in either one of them there's no illegal aliens or illegal human beings. It's just people living out their lives, free and open borders and government has absolutely no business, has no right in restricting any marriage, gay marriage or any consensual relationship among two consenting adults

22:24 The cable TV, the cable shows are talking about these issues and the government really has no business in either one of them. Thank you for joining us here on Live & Let Live. Then you can check out Jeff Davis on Facebook at facebook.com slash Yes, David show this is been live and let live on the logos radio network for Sunday April 7th This program was directed by Nate Thomas The executive in charge of production was Deborah Stevens You can hear this program every Sunday night from these locals radio Network. I'm Gary Johnson Good night