Topic: Posse Comitatus

Chief Al Philippus reaffirms that the San Antonio Police Department does not train with the military, maintaining a strict separation of roles and missions. He rejects the idea of local police maintaining "classified" secrets on behalf of the military, stating such arrangements are inappropriate for domestic law enforcement. Philippus concludes by stating that while the department cooperates with federal agencies like the FBI and DEA, he will not engage in activities that resemble a military police state or violate constitutional principles.

Catherine Madison details the deaths of residents during the siege, including a woman named Jadine who was allegedly shot by helicopters while feeding her baby. She also describes the death of a man named Winston, who was killed in a back room after bullets penetrated water storage tanks. The host argues that the use of military force against American citizens violated the Posse Comitatus Act.

Katherine Matteson describes witnessing three helicopters firing into David Koresh's room during the initial February 28 raid. A caller suggests a conspiracy involving ATF agents with personal ties to Bill Clinton, while Matteson alleges that gunfire from helicopters killed a mother, Jadine, and wounded others inside the building. The discussion characterizes the use of military force against U.S. citizens as a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.

The host defends the right to bear arms as a defensive necessity against government overreach, citing the federal raid on Waco as a violation of Posse Comitatus. He argues that citizens, as the true government, should decide who possesses weapons rather than politicians. He emphasizes that the Second Amendment was intended for defense against tyranny, not for hunting.

Alex Jones discusses the unconstitutional federal control of local police departments through federal funding. He warns of the arming of agencies like the EPA with military equipment and the preparation of FEMA detention centers. Jones argues that the $28 trillion national debt is used to turn American citizens into "serfs" for foreign banks.

The "War on Drugs" is characterized as a pretext for militarizing the nation and implementing asset forfeiture laws that allow the seizure of property without due process. Alex Jones also criticizes the United Nations for corruption in Africa, alleging they facilitate resource extraction by corporations like Royal Dutch Shell while ignoring local suffering.

The discussion focuses on the Posse Comitatus Act and the illegal use of military equipment against U.S. citizens. Jack DeVault explains that the government falsely alleged a drug lab existed at Mount Carmel to bypass legal restrictions on using tanks and helicopters. Mike Hanson concludes the segment by promoting other local access shows, including those hosted by Jeff Davis and Greg Erickson.

A report in the Dallas Morning News from July 7, 1997, details how federal law allows the military to assist law enforcement with surveillance. Alex Jones argues this is a violation of the Constitution and expresses shock at the "mentality of the slave" among citizens who do not care about the loss of national sovereignty. The discussion emphasizes that the erosion of the Bill of Rights is being met with public indifference.

A caller named Hap, a former intelligence officer, discusses the "gray area" of the Posse Comitatus Act and the difference between Title 10 (active duty) and Title 32 (National Guard) personnel. He explains how the National Guard is increasingly used to assist law enforcement in surveillance duties, particularly in counter-drug operations. The hosts reference Jack McLam's "Police Against the New World Order" as a resource for educating officers about these constitutional boundaries.

Thomas Sanchez, a FEMA coordinator and Texas State Guard officer, expresses concern that military exercises in Texas are illegal under the Posse Comitatus Act. He describes a training scenario involving martial law and the confiscation of weapons from citizens who refuse to surrender them.

James Pate reveals a classified Army document from Major Philip W. Lindley, a JAG officer, which characterized the ATF's plan as a mission against "civilian targets" rather than a standard warrant service. He names four Green Berets present during the raid—Chris Dunn, Warren Ackley, Bob Morland, and John Wilson—and alleges that military lawyers warned the involvement crossed legal lines.

A host confronts an ATF agent regarding the disappearance of the front door of the Mount Carmel building, which served as a key piece of ballistic evidence. The discussion shifts to the ATF's deadly force policy and the use of CS gas, with the host warning that millions of armed citizens are prepared to defend themselves against federal overreach.

Sheriff Fraser shared her perspective on the Posse Comitatus Act and the constitutional separation between military and domestic police actions. She cited the Ezequiel Hernandez shooting on the border as a cautionary example of why military tactics—designed to "kill people and break things"—are inappropriate for local law enforcement. Fraser emphasized that police must prioritize the preservation of peace and moral accountability in the use of force.

A tour of the Mount Carmel museum highlights photographs of federal agents, military tanks, and the ATF flag flying at the site. The display includes images of Bradley Fighting Vehicles and Abrams tanks used against the community. The raid is characterized as a violation of the Posse Comitatus Act and a demonstration of a police state, utilizing German-made fully automatic weapons.

A caller named Bill cites Title 10 of the United States Code to argue that the military is legally allowed to provide equipment and advice to law enforcement. He claims the tanks at Waco were not operated by active military personnel, though Jeff Davis counters by mentioning the involvement of the 3rd Special Forces Group from Fort Bragg and the National Guard.