Topic: Gunfire

Catherine Madison details the deaths of residents during the siege, including a woman named Jadine who was allegedly shot by helicopters while feeding her baby. She also describes the death of a man named Winston, who was killed in a back room after bullets penetrated water storage tanks. The host argues that the use of military force against American citizens violated the Posse Comitatus Act.

Madison describes the death of a man named Mike, who was allegedly shot in the back and then executed with headshots while lying in a gully. She recounts the interior state of the building during the siege, where bullets passed through the hair of residents. She also mentions children drawing pictures of the building covered in dots, which they identified as bullet holes.

On the morning of February 28, David Koresh confirmed reports that authorities were approaching the compound. Clive Doyle recounts Koresh attempting to speak with agents at the front door before a massive fuselage of bullets erupted. Doyle describes finding Perry Jones in the hallway, clutching his stomach and screaming after being shot near the entrance, while the front foyer was riddled with bullet holes.

Witnesses describe large helicopters landing on top of the Exxon building while the military conducted assaults. Jones explains to a resident that these events are preparations for martial law, intended to ease the American public into accepting a permanent military presence.

Santoyo details the rapid escalation of the raid, stating that agents began firing within seconds of exiting their trailers. She confirms that the agents shot the community's dogs first before turning their weapons on the front door and the main building. The interviewer emphasizes the proximity of the agents to the door, estimated at ten to fifteen feet, during the opening moments of the conflict.

Santoyo describes the intensity of the gunfire coming through the ceilings and walls, comparing her daughter's room to a "strainer" or sieve due to the number of bullet holes. She recounts how a bullet struck her Bible on a bunk bed; when she later tried to take the damaged Bible with her as evidence, federal agents confiscated it and never returned it.

Catherine Madison recounts the initial ATF raid on February 28, 1993, describing the arrival of vehicles and the subsequent firing from helicopters. She details the deaths of Winston Blake and Jaydean Wendel, who were reportedly shot while in their beds or tending to children. The account emphasizes the terror of the residents as bullets penetrated the building's walls and ceilings while women shielded their children on the floor.

Clive Doyle describes the chaos on the morning of February 28 after David Koresh attempted to speak with agents at the front door. Doyle recounts finding Perry Jones severely wounded in the hallway and discovering Winston Blake's body in a room flooded by water from tanks hit by gunfire. He asserts that the heavy volume of incoming fire from helicopters and ground forces created immediate carnage inside the foyer.

A witness describes the physical damage to the Mount Carmel building, noting that every front window was shot out and Venetian blinds were shredded by gunfire. Observation of heavy metal doors revealed one-inch holes with metal peeled inward, indicating that projectiles were fired from the outside into the building. This evidence was used to challenge the government's narrative regarding who initiated the exchange of fire.