70: Four Freedoms

00:07 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for November 11th, 2021. This is episode number 70. It's going to be a doozy. I'm Adam Curry coming to you from the heart of Texas Hill Country. Time once again to spin the wheel of topics from here to Northern Virginia. Please say hello to my friend on the other end, Mr. Mo Facts. How you doing, Adam? I am doing good, Mo. How about yourself? We'll see about the end of this show. Yeah, by the way, thank you for choosing this track. I love this. This is so good. One of the greatest beats ever in hip-hop history. And I remember it. I was around when this was happening. That was outside Unitel video.

00:50 Just crazy on the street shooting videos. And one of the best videos. Yeah, definitely. All-time history. Definitely. Definitely. Well, how's everything going? Yeah, everything's been going real well, man. I saw you did your live on last Wednesday. How'd that go? Everything cool? Everything went great. Lost tapes. If people don't know, the alternate Wednesdays when a show doesn't drop, come on by the YouTube channel. And you can find us at 8 o'clock on Wednesdays, do the lost tape. And that's the interactive newsletter for the show here. Yeah. And it's definitely something you want to check out if you want to dive even deeper than the show goes.

01:30 Yeah, we get a little. I tuned in and you were doing the whole Magic Johnson thing. I'm like, okay, this is deeper than we even went on Magic Johnson. Yes, yes. Like, okay, okay. The perspective was great. So I know today is going to be a fun show. Are we ready to whip her around? Yeah, please. All right. There it is. The wheel of topics. Round and round it goes. Where it stops, nobody knows. Well, of course, Mo knows because he finally was able to sync his OneNote and now he knows what the topic is. The topic for episode number 70 of Mo Facts with Adam Curry is... I chose to be unvaccinated and that was my choice. Oh, yeah, baby. This is why it's a big one. This is why it's a big one. All right. This is what are we doing?

02:13 Vaccine mandates, the mandate business. We're going to talk about the mandates, what's going on, how it's impacting people, including myself, gingerbread Mo. Wait a minute. I don't know this gingerbread. What's the gingerbread part about? I don't know what this is. Like the gingerbread man, you run and you dip and you duck and you dive. Right. Gingerbread man is, he might get eaten. He might. It looks, it's the jury's still out, literally. So we got to talk about it. Mandates. I know a lot of people. I can't remember what show it was, but I've said previously on a couple occasions that I'm not taking a shot.

02:53 It's my personal decision. And as we see, this has ramifications for having a personal decision. So what I want to go do today is talk about what's going on in the news. Why I think we, we, when I say we, people that are refusing from taking a shot. I don't like that term anti-vax because it's not true. No, I like to say I am not ready to accept the vaccine into my life. I like that. But let me put it up front. What we need to do is redefine the conversation from pro-vax, anti-vax to pro-choice, anti-choice.

03:38 Because you have a lot of people that have taken the vaccine that are supportive of people that don't want to take the vaccine. So I don't want them to divide people on whether you took the shot or not. It's whether you think a person has a choice to take the shot or not. Which is really what we're seeing a lot of now with many of the walkouts and protests within corporations. It's not just people who don't want this vaccine. It's people who support their free right to choice who may have been vax already. Well, it's a couple of different things in there. We'll talk about it as it goes along, but it's my choice today.

04:20 It might be your choice tomorrow. But what I'm liking is, as you said, I see people sticking together on this topic and not be divided by the media narrative. So that's what we're going to get into is the media narrative going on. And the best way to do that is getting to clip number two. This is vaccine mandate battle heats up. Today, the Biden administration put out new details on the vaccine mandate for private employers. Under the new rules released by OSHA, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, companies with 100 or more employees will have to ensure their workforce is fully vaccinated by January the 4th. Unvaccinated workers who opt out of the requirement will have to get tested. tested every single week and wear a mask in the workplace.

05:03 The White House says this mandate will cover 84 million workers nationwide. Today, the nation's top health experts testified on the Hill about the importance of taking this step. Here's how Dr. Anthony Fauci explained it. Let me just explain very briefly. We know that vaccines absolutely save lives, and we know that mandates work. If you look at, for example, the percentage of people in United Airlines or in the Houston Medical Association or in other organizations that have mandated it works 99 plus percent, for example, with United Airlines.

05:43 So if you take the fact that mandates work and vaccines absolutely save lives, the answer to your question is yes, it does save lives. It seems like sound logic, right? Yeah, right? Uh-huh. So this term mandates work. Yeah. You mean if forcing people works? Yeah, I guess. If you force them enough. When you hear that statement, what are you hearing? I don't want to lead the witness. Yeah, no, when I hear mandates work, that means whatever horrible thing we came up with, which threatened all kinds of stuff for people individually and as groups, works.

06:28 Yeah. If the government puts the boot on your face and says you won't be able to eat unless you take this, it works. That's what I hear. Right. But what a lot of people hear is mandates works mean it's actually helping the COVID situation. Oh, okay. Yeah. I didn't hear that. Yeah, obviously. Right. But if you're just listening and passing like mandates work, you're thinking, well, okay, it must be helping the COVID situation. And not, that's not what Fauci's saying. Right. And that's backed up, of course, by all kinds of jamoks around government saying, well, you know, the inflation won't end until everyone's vaccinated. You know, it's like COVID won't end until the whole world's vaccinated. So sure. Yeah, I can see how people are very confused.

07:13 Right. Because if you say mandates work, what he's actually saying is firing people can get you to 100% vaccinated for your job or your place of employment. That's what he's saying. That's why he said 99.9%. Yep. 99.9% means what? That means, okay, we only have one-tenth of a percent of people that we're allowed. It's the same 99% that are going to be healthy. That will never have a problem with COVID. But okay, I digress. Yeah, so I slip the script. Yeah, they make it seem, oh, yeah, no, 99% works. It gets rid of the people that you don't want there. That's what they're saying. So just these number gains that we had to talk about.

07:58 And we're going to, we may hear that a couple more times throughout the show. So I just wanted to point that out to you at first. So I guess we can go ahead and get into clip number three. It seems like sound logic, right? Well, not to Republican lawmakers. Senator Mike Braun of Indiana is teaming up with 40 GOP senators to try and use the Congressional Review Act to block Biden's mandate. Arizona Congressman Andy Biggs introduced legislation that would get rid of OSHA altogether. And at the state level, a whole bunch of Republican lawmakers are suing. One of them is Mississippi Governor Tate Reeves.

08:37 He called the mandates one of the most shocking attacks on personal liberty we have seen in this country during my lifetime. And you know, that's a real change of tune from Tate Reeves. The Mississippi Free Press points out that in 2015, when Reeves was lieutenant governor and president of the state senate, he presided over the passage of a bill that would have locked up tuberculosis patients who refused treatment. Mississippi is just one of several Republican-led states to announce legal action. Ohio, Missouri, and Florida are right there with them. And joining me now to discuss is Dr. Erwin Redlener. He's co-founder of the Children's Health Fund and an NBC News public health analyst.

09:19 And Dr. Red Leonard, from the public health standpoint, how do we get to this place where states are suing over vaccine mandates? Wow, this is completely nuts. You know, we keep thinking that it can't get any worse. It can't get any more ignorant in terms of what is being proposed or suggested by Republican lawmakers. I'm quite familiar with the Congressional Review Act. Okay, so I'll lean on you for that. I went more of this episode to talk about. the divisiveness in the media and how they're trying to turn citizen against citizen

10:05 and turn them into lizards. Basically, we always talk about being that you thinking out of fear. It's flight or flight or fight, flight or flight. That's the only thing they want you to do is think out of fear. So, how is it completely nuts that you would think that you would think that people would not have with putting a experimental product? Let's just call it that into their body. The reason why I say that is I have to link, I'm a quality engineer. That's my job, or was or is, I don't know. I don't know. But that's my

10:46 profession is quality engineering. In that, we don't send an experimental product to customers. That's just a no-go. No, no, absolutely not. Well, and I'll just say that I have my opinion, you know, based on the mass formation concept. I am starting to humanize everybody in this or almost everybody because this guy clearly is under the same hypnosis as the rest of the 30% of the world who are just all in.

11:22 And just, you know, even if in black and white, under the summary of the Congressional Review Act, it says, you know, this is really before a rule can take effect, an agency has to submit a report to each house of Congress and the Comptroller General, you know, to explain exactly what the rule is. They didn't do that. So now for him to say this is nuts, that's because his psyche is in, oh, this is still an emergency and people are dying on the streets. I saw it on TikTok and I'm the hero and all these different complexes come into play. And what's crazy is that we see life going on for people going to concerts. Oh, yeah, as we've seen down in Houston, people going to football and basketball games.

12:06 I think who's afraid of COVID when Travis Scott will kill you free? You know, easy. But the only thing, and I want to get too far into that, that conversation about it, it does matter because the only stipulation was that you had to be tested to get into the concert to be pressed against other people. The optics of it is just crazy. Well, that's Texas. Texas has an anti-mandate order. So that's why. And who knows? That hasn't been played yet, but they probably should give that a go. Oh, well, you know, super spreader event. Super spreader of death.

12:42 But they didn't call it that because big record labels and they don't want to piss off the superstars because this is a very fragile network they're holding together. I think the celebrities are starting to see. We see with Aaron Rodgers as we see. I agree. They're kind of looking both ways to see which way, you know, which way the people are going. And I think the people that's ahead of the curve are starting to see, well, I understand you keeping people in their house. Like this Republicans senator was okay with keeping a lock of people up that had tuberculosis and didn't want to get treated.

13:25 That's reasonable to say, okay, you're sick. Why don't you quarantine yourself? And if you don't want to quarantine yourself, then we have to do something about it. That's reasonable to the general public to say, okay. But to say, okay, we're going to fire people if they don't want to take a shot. And the other thing that's looming, I'm just going to put it out there right now. There's a lot of people that took the first set of shots that are worried about the boosters. Yep. They're seeing how it's going to go to say, and every year, every year. It's going to be every year. Every six months is going to be, I think, you know, I mean, just by their own

14:10 documentation. Yeah. Yeah. It's just that, hey, you know, so it's like, I say to everybody to say, what's your number? Well, I start to think now, what's your number? Yeah. I need to preface this with one important thing that we all must remember. And I have to remind myself every single day. The original sin, the big lie of this COVID thing was asymptomatic spread. And that lie, which is a lie, it's not proven. It's never happened before. That is, that's exactly why the example of tuberculosis is the correct example

14:47 because you need. need to keep sick people home, not people you think are sick, or not people who have had some kind of polymer chain reaction result that indicates that they may be sick, even though they don't have symptoms. You're not sick without the symptoms, and that's a lie when they say you can spread that not being symptomatic. And that is the genesis of this. You have to have the vaccine to protect me, which is not how vaccines have ever worked. I'm taking, and I'm taking the vaccine. You have to protect me from yes. And the idiocy, no, of course. And of course, we see, we see it's plain as day.

15:29 It's like, okay, that's dumb. That makes no sense. We both have to take the vaccine to protect each other because it doesn't protect you. We see the fallacy. People who are all in are just going to be all in, and you can't convince them we shouldn't have to. And it's the 40% of people who are just going along with the program. They're the ones. So that's your Aaron Rodgers. That's your Kyrie. Exactly. That's these guys. They're part of the 40%. They're not guys who just walk along with the masses. And as you know, from school days, there's not many people who don't walk along with the masses or eventually break away.

16:07 But it's a lie. The whole thing is based on a lie. Oh, yeah. Totally. It's a lot of people that's pretending to say, oh, I'm okay with the vaccine. I'm okay with the mandates, that kind of thing. But when it gets to their doorstep, that's when things get real. And that's why I'm saying I want people to start thinking about this. What is your in this? Look, I'm pro-choice. If you want to take 10 jabs, knock yourself out. That's your choice. But at the same time, you can't make people take something they don't want to take. And then, I mean, that's what we would think, but maybe we're not in America anymore. And if that's the case, tell me that it's same. Just let me know that as well. But

16:51 like I said, I have a lot here. I think we stopped at three. Let's go ahead and get into clip four. You know, all I keep thinking about is, and I wrote an op-ed about this, that President Bolsonaro of Brazil is being held on human rights violations and criminal negligence. It's the president of Brazil because of policies that resulted in excess deaths from COVID. And my question was: why aren't we holding our lawmakers and especially governors who control state policies up for the same level of accountability? It is so preposterous that we have grown-up legislators either suing the federal government or demanding that we not have mandates and so on.

17:37 It is so contrary, Zerlina, to science and to what needs to be done to save lives. You know, we have three-quarters of a million Americans now who have died of COVID, and at least 80% of those were avoidable deaths. If we had been vaccinated, we wouldn't be in this very tragic situation that we're in now, Zerlina. I think when you think about the avoidable deaths, that's when I get very upset because, you know, when we didn't have a vaccine, you know, that's one thing. But once we had the vaccine, the politicization of vaccines has cost lives. But I'm glad to see, you know, there is now evidence of vaccine mandates working.

18:21 You see, you heard Dr. Fauci there. Elaborate on what he said there. Why do they work? Like, what's the science to back that up? You heard that, right? They work. That's fair. They get rid of the sick. They can get rid of people. That's right. Disease people. That's a good catch, Mo, because I've heard it and I always just interpret it exactly as the way he means it, but I can see it's really a tricky little thing he's done there. He's done a good job or Fauci Meister. So there's a couple of points I want to point out. One being we need to lock up politicians. And then two, the unavoidable deaths. I want to put those to the side and talk about them.

19:02 You go ahead and I want to hear what you heard from the clip first. Oh, well, I heard about Brazil's president Bolsonaro, you know, crimes against humanity. Well, I know what this is. You know, they there's been, they've brought a case in the International Criminal Court, the ICC in The Hague, over his handling. And in that, they say, you know, they accused him of serious and deadly failures. The thing is, the International Criminal Court, the United States does not even recognize this. This is a marketing court at this point. So it's like, eh, all right, fine.

19:41 But it, you know, it sounds great when you say it. Oh, he's being. he's in the International Criminal Court for Crimes Against Humanity. Well, there's been a lot of people that have been summoned and they just don't go. George Bush would be one. He's also sought by the internet. That's true. Yeah. So it's war criminal, but no. So, you know, so that's kind of a red herring. But to throw that out there, that we need to start locking up politicians. Oh, the message is clear. We have to see who this, we have to see who the totalitarians is here. I mean, the extent they're a go-to, because I'm like this. If you have such a great product, sell me on the product. Show me the numbers. Show me how it's going to help my life. If it makes sense, I'll make the purchase.

20:25 I'm a very practical person in that way. But the fact when you have to go to locking up politicians, calling people dumb, ignorant, those kind of things. And then the point I want to address is this unavoidable death. Yeah. And I think we really have to get into this because a lot of people that don't want to take the shot that are believers believe that your time is your time. Yeah, sure. I could be sitting in a room, a padded room, and when it's my time to go, I'm going to go. Well, so that means that believers could also, if they can get past all the other potential issues of what's in the vaccine or what it was tested with, that they would have enough faith to say, yeah, it's my time, it's my time.

21:10 I'll take it. It could be, it could cut both ways. See, you see, you see, it could cut both ways. But if you believe, okay, so they say, take the jab and it will prevent you from possibly dying. That's what they say here. 80% of the 750,000 people were avoidable. In my book, 0% of those deaths were avoidable because everybody that died is meant to die. I got you. It doesn't work. That's a very fundamental belief. And I completely understand where you're coming from and what you're saying. And I also simultaneously completely understand why people will be like, that's not logical.

21:53 That makes no sense. And you just never be able to tell them otherwise. Well, it's doctrine. And that's when I mean by doctrine, in the Bible, it says your days are numbered upon this earth. So it means if tomorrow's my day to go, whether I'm jabbed or unjabbed, I'm going to go. I mean, and so taking in all these factors, people are making decisions. But the fact that people don't respect that is the problem. I'm saying this to the other side to say what you're saying doesn't resonate. Right. That doesn't, you throwing that avoidable death thing out there. It doesn't resonate with me.

22:34 Interesting point. Okay, got it. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. So when it's my time to go, it's my time to go. And as you said, you're trying to humanize everybody. I'm trying to humanize everybody as well because what really scares me is it's not the vaccine, it's this ramped up, divisive, binary situation they're putting people in. And it only takes a spark to ignite this. That's what troubles me. More than the vaccine than anything like that. We've, and I say we, Americans and humans have killed each other over far less than this. Yeah, yes. I'm of the mindset that kinetic

23:19 war, civil war is much less likely in today's day and age. Of course, there can always be, and we've seen in the past two years, there's definitely violence is definitely possible. It just seems that the people who are all in are all in and are quite lethargic. And unless they got a specific order, kind of like rosebud level, I don't think anything will happen. But so that's what I'm afraid of: you've got 30% of the world, or just the country, the United States. You've got them all in. They're captured. And, you know, what do you say?

23:55 Which, you know, yeah, it's definitely dangerous, but there's also a lot of pushback in that 40% in the middle is in play. And when I say, I don't think we're going to get into a civil war where we're shooting our neighbors and that kind of thing. But when you get to the point where, like, those people just won't listen. So they need to be. Well, screw that. When you get to the point where your colleague, okay, maybe he's your manager at work, is telling you you can go home and you get, you know, basically we'll give you some time to think about it and without pay and until you're ready. Otherwise, we're just going to let you go or just continue not paying you. Good luck. I mean, that's violence.

24:38 I mean, you know, quote unquote. that's really evil, the stuff that you're making people do to each other in workplaces, which are just communities. And that's my point. And one, once you get that ball rolling, you get people, well, you've confined me to a life of poverty. Yep. What's to start stealing, start taking, start, you know, thinking in that manner. So, or workplace shootings, Moe, you predicted it will come. I see it happening, man. I was going to put that in this show. And since you brought it up, I'm going to bring it up.

25:16 What's the one group of people that was supposedly exempt from the federal government? The post office. Going postal. Now, the reasons given were not that, of course, but I like it. Yes, we didn't want those guys to go, quote unquote, yeah, that's what it used to be called going postal. There was just a time when it was just one. I wonder if it must be, there must be a Wikipedia entry for that because that was the thing in the 80s, I would say, was when it was really bad.

25:52 Right. That's what we had to get perspective to people that wasn't around in that time. I think it was 80s even into the 90s because I mean, I was a teenager when I remember this thing happening. But going postal, that was like post workers were on a tear of coming in and taking people out. And I'll revisit that point. I didn't want to put it in this show just yet, but going and as you, as we both think that the postal workers are exempt, right? By the way, this started, I think it started during Reagan. There was something about Reagan. And what was their reasoning? I looked into it. I can tell you their reasoning.

26:35 I don't know. Tell me. Underpaid and overworked. That would be a reason. So if you're getting rid of a whole bunch of people and the people that stay behind are the ones you have in that population, people that were reluctant to take the vacc, but took the vax, and then you overworking them in a stressful environment, just by the sheer odds of it. Yeah. Yeah. So I just want to lay that out. And I found when I heard it, I was like, he's exempting the postal workers. The first thing that popped in my head was going postal. We don't want to piss these people off. That's the first thing I thought, too. They had a different reason. I can't remember exactly what it was.

27:20 But let me enlighten people. They are not exempt. That's what I thought. Yeah. Because they're exempt under his federal worker mandate, but they're covered under the OSHA mandate. Yes. See, that's that's, I'm telling you, this is the things that we have to watch for is these sleight of hands. And my reference is the DC. The article says White House official clarifies whether postal workers are exempt from vaccine mandate. And it goes on to say the United States State's personal worker employees receive COVID-19 vaccines under rules issued by the OSHA and not the rules for federal government, multiple outlets report, multiple outlets reported Thursday. So they're not exempt. No.

28:08 This is a huge problem. And I think it's, I think there's a plan here. And I'll get more into that later. I think we stopped at clip number four. Yep. Let's go ahead and get to number five. Well, they're working because people want to go to work. They want to go to events. They want to eat inside restaurants. They want to keep their jobs, basically. And the more we can say that you can't come to work here because the federal government outlaws it. If you work for a company with more than 100 people, you will not be able to come to work unless you get vaccinated. And some companies will have an option of allowing people to get tested once a week, but the 17 million healthcare workers don't even have that option, nor should they.

28:52 You've got to get vaccinated, period. And I think I just think this is something that we're going to need to enforce. And when we do enforce it, we'll finally get to the vaccination levels that will help protect at least some of the spread of this really vicious, lethal COVID-19 virus. Yeah. There it is conflated nicely. Yeah, nice. Nicely conflated. Let me give you a hypothetical about a guy named Joe Katz, maybe. Joe Katz has been working from home since the beginning of the pandemic. Yo, job 100%. Job 20. took me a second.

29:35 I'm sorry. Yes. Okay. Yeah. Tell me about this Joe Katz dude. Let's talk about Joe. Just Joe, but it's hypothetical. I got you. I got you. All right. So Joe has been working from home since the beginning of the pandemic, thriving. His job allows him to work 100% from home. Joe doesn't want to get the vaccine. Maybe Joe even had COVID. Who knows? So he even has the antibodies. He's not posing any risk to anybody, but let's fire Joe. Does that sound like a good idea to you? I'm presuming that Joe was very productive during the work at home period and perhaps even more productive.

30:20 And no, it makes zero sense to me. In fact, I'd consider having Joe continue working at home, quite honestly. That's my point. Why would you fire Joe? I mean, because we ought to take these in pockets. Okay. There's a case going on right out here in George with an attorney out of George Mason. He's a professor. Saying he would have took the vax if he had, it was available to him, but he caught COVID. He beat COVID. Now, why does he have to take the vax? So he's going from the angle of, I had it already. Why do I need the vaccine? Well, and let's just stop there for one second. This is the second most egregious part outside of

31:00 what we discussed earlier with asymptomatic spread from purely medical perspective. You can really, if you really want to do the work and you go in and look at all the different studies that have been done from reputable sources, including CDC, FDA, NIH, you name it, NHS in the UK. Immunity from natural and quote-unquote natural infection is superior. And even if it wasn't superior, it's at least on par. So there should be no reason to take a vaccination for the same issue to achieve the same unless there's a secondary reason.

31:45 And we're, as Joe Biden said, not Joe Katz, said that we're going to be testing people weekly. Yeah. Well, that was going to be an option and that never panned out. Well, that's not even an option. No. Nobody discusses that option. They say, hey, it was supposed to be an option. It was clearly said or a weekly test. What this was, was a nudge for the corporation to go ahead and do what the corporations wanted to do. You bet. And they got cover from the politicians. That's all this is. Right. But I don't, I'm not so sure that the corporations wanted to do this.

32:22 I'll disagree there. I believe they too are under pressure and they're under pressure from, and I'm 100% convinced this is true, from the environmental social governance. That is the only score that matters. It doesn't even matter if you're making profit these days. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's this. I didn't factored in that part because it makes you wonder why is weekly testing and a mask not the option to go for most people. Unless it's, hey, you guys are right on top of each other. You might need to get the vaccine, that kind of thing. But no, what they're saying is you will be not even fired. They're not even firing people.

33:02 No, no, no, that's the worst part. They don't want to fire people because, and I'm not quite sure how the mechanism works, but I believe if someone, if you fire someone and they claim unemployment, does the company pay for some of that or their employment insurance pays for it? How does that work? Yes. Yes, they should. Yes. And we're going to get and touch on that a little later, but that's how it normally works. If you are let go by the company and it's not something that you brought on, like being laid or that kind of stuff like that, even in those cases, me being in that position have to let people go before. It's like, well, you know what? We did fire the guy. Let's not mess it with his unemployment. That's kind of like, unless you were just a complete a-hole, you know, and then it's like, oh, well, we'll

33:44 mess around with it. So the definition of being an a-hole, I'm just saying, let's say Joe Katz didn't want to accept the vaccine into his life. And his company said, well, you know, we're going to give you until next week and then you better start because after that, we're going to keep you at home without pay or we will keep you on board with no pay for two months, which implies you can think about it while you have no income or you can do something else, which means you would leave. And the timing of it, right before the Christmas, of course. Christmas, baby. Yeah, this is the most fun time. Your family comes over. It's like, what you been doing?

34:29 Y'all just been sitting here and quasi-unemployed. I laugh about it because it's Gallows' humor. It's like they are really taking it here. And that makes me look at them like, wow, like y'all really want to take it here, huh? Can I ask you a question which may pop up later in the show? Sure. And you don't have the answer. It's a rhetorical question. But all things considered, if you are on welfare, should there not be a vaccination mandate for you as well if we're just going to be completely fair about everything or step by step?

35:10 Step by step. I knew I was taking this too far. Put them on. No, no, I'm saying, not you. No, not. I'm saying the rollout. Like, that's why they won't mandate the boosters yet. Oh, I see what you're saying. Step by step. You don't want to piss too many people all at once. Right. The workers first. Right. So they better hurry up because people are saying this to me. It's like, hey, how come they don't have to get this? And they're getting free money. And we're starving. And then we paid all the taxes and we're screwed. What about illegal immigrants that's coming across the border? I mean, don't get me started on that. Yeah, of course. But we're going to need some people who have replacement hearts for all this myocarditis.

35:54 So we might as well get the illegals in here. Well, and they'll get jabbed up too. I mean, nobody's going to escape it if we continue on like we're going. So I think that was the last clip. Was it five or four? Five. We're going to six. So post-Halloween, we're heading into Thanksgiving and Christmas and New Year's. Last year, the advice was to really minimize the amount of gathering we were doing. Now we have a certain percentage of the population that's vaccinated. Do you think that there will be a holiday surge that's less severe than last year because of that? You know, it's hard to say, Jolene. We'll have to see. And, you know, a lot of this is going to be up to individuals.

36:34 If you plan on having a celebration indoors for Thanksgiving or for the winter holidays, Christmas and Hanukkah and so on, here's what we would do, and what we are going to do is we're going to tell potential guests, and we're not going to have a whole lot of them, that you have to be vaccinated in order to come to the house here. And I think the more people that demand that very basic requirement that you get vaccinated before you come to an indoor gathering, the better off we're going to be. And those will be more incentives, I think, for people to get vaccinated. Incentives. Yeah.

37:14 Let's pressure you through your family. I have, we have friends now, because, you know, we're out here in Hill Country, and there's people in Austin, and there's friends of ours who actually hadn't spoken to for quite a while. And now they're like, holy crap, we just woke up. What's going on? And they are now in a horrible position where this is literally taking place to them. Can't go home, grandma, you know, no one can see grandma unless we're all vaccinated and they're just calling and pressuring these people all day long. It's the family structure that is what is being ripped apart by this. It's real, that's that's the that's my biggest beef.

37:53 That was my thing about the Civil War kind of thing. Yeah. I don't think we're going to get a kinetic shooting war. Yeah, brother against brother. Yeah. That's that's biblical. Yes, it is. It is. That's biblical. So let me get this straight. You want to let a guy go, then he for the holidays, he can't see his family. He doesn't have any money around the holidays to buy anything for his kids. And you think he's going to be okay with that? Yeah, no, he's not. He's going to be very unokay with that. And as we know, people take it to different levels. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not a proponent. I'm saying this as a PSA.

38:37 Let's just think about this for a minute. Let's just think about this for a minute because it's a perfect storm brewing for people to either harm themselves or harm other people or harm other people before harm themselves. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because I talk to people and it's, and then you even get in a stickier situation. Like I said, why didn't he say, well, you need to have the shot and the boosters to come to Christmas? Right. I mean, that's that's my problem with this whole situation.

39:17 It's this middle of the road kind of thing. Like, yeah, you can get the shots, but you don't really need your boosters. You can come to Christmas if you got. your original shots that you may have taken over a year ago. Right. That's fine. Yeah. But if you don't have, if you had COVID and have antibodies, you can't come to Christmas. Set the clear guidelines. Say, hey, you got to have shots, boosters. You know what I'm saying? Two masks, and we text you at the door. Okay. At least that's logical. Yeah. At least that's logical. And, well, no, the logical thing is, and this is what I tell my friends. I said, okay, really, logically, you can even tell your family this.

40:01 CDC guidelines say even if you're vaccinated, you can spread the virus. So that means that you can also get it and someone else can get it. So why don't I just get tested and then you'll know for sure that I'm okay. Vaccinated or not, I'm tested. No one can argue that logic. They will, but if it depends on what paradigm you have, if you're sick, then you're sick. And I want to get into this next clip, next set of clips. This is your boy Ari from MSNBC. Oh, God. The hip-hop, the hip-hop expert.

40:41 Yes, Ari. I don't know the guy's name. He's going to say it in the next set of clips. But I want you to look up his picture. I didn't have time to get the picture for you. Or you can search by the clip title on YouTube and see this guy. I'm not saying he's a lizard, but if I was going to say what a humanoid lizard would look like, it could possibly look like this guy. Turning to a big legal development, the White House cheering what it calls good news from the Supreme Court as Biden pushes this partial vaccine mandate. Now, the Biden administration mandate has not hit the high court yet, but a strict state mandate survived a crucial test.

41:24 The Supreme Court leaving in place a vaccine mandate for healthcare workers, five justices voting that way, including two Trump appointees. The court already left in place mandates at educational institutions. So taken together, the headline here is: it is hard to overturn COVID vaccine requirements. And courts have upheld them for a century of all kinds of vaccines. Now, there can be limits when it comes, for example, to religious exceptions and how courts want to require that. Meanwhile, the Biden administration set to publish details and a mandate rule in writing this week. That plan allows a major exception, allowing basically everyone who is affected by it to choose testing instead of vaccination if they want.

42:07 Still, Republicans, 11 states suing Biden over it. And the president has told Republicans have at it because he says he'll win these challenges. These brand new court signals that I'm telling you about, well, they're definitely on his side. The Supreme Court has yet to hear a full case on this, but everything that we're learning, including that new ruling from Maine, suggests they're okay with it. So, did you see the guy that's on the clip? If not, I just want to point out this is before the recent, this was like maybe a little less than a week ago, but before the you know, the halting of the current mandate.

42:47 So, MSNBC is out doing their propaganda saying the title of the YouTube video is Winning Biden Vax Mandate, get shot in the arm from Scouters. Yeah, I thought I was going to hear a name in the clip. But I'm looking it up now. No, I want to see it. Now I have to see this. Whatever it is, I got to see it. Okay. This guy got more teeth. Well, I'm trying. Yeah, go ahead. No, he's a scary looking guy. That's all I got to say. And I want you to listen to the milieu that he uses or that he speaks with.

43:32 Or he makes. Yes. Okay. This guy, what is his name? Hold on a second. Is it in the clip? Yeah. Oh, no. No, no. This guy, he is the lizard king. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, he even suck his tongue out. I just saw him go like a lizard does. You see all those teeth? Oh, oh, my goodness. He's been chomping on some rats or stuff for lunch. I'm trying to say Komodo Dragon. Yeah, that's it. Okay. All right. I'll put that in the show notes so people can enjoy that. It's not only his look, but listen to his logic. Number eight. You've worked with WHO and really know these issues around the world.

44:14 What's your global perspective here on how the U.S. uses these powers compared to? to other places? Because we've heard the arguments of, oh, maybe this is extreme or government overreach. And yet most of the mandates have exceptions. The Biden one has a big one as mentioned. And the United States has tried to strike a balance with liberty and vaccination for some time. Yeah, I mean, you know, from an ethical point of view, let's just start with that. You know, everyone has the right to, you know, the sanctity of their own body, of course, but nobody has the right to expose another person to a dangerous and infectious disease. You don't have the right to go into a crowded workspace unmasked and unvaccinated because you cause harm to others.

44:58 A lot of other countries around the world have mandates of one form or another. Ours tends to focus on schools and on work. Others, you know, you can't go to a shop. You can't go to a museum. You can't go on an airplane. You can't get a croissant in France unless you're vaccinated. And so around the world, is it a croissant or is it a croissant? It's a croissant. A croissant. It's very international. So go ahead. I am. Well, I mean, from the UK. So it's not quite France. And the guy had like a whole chocolate croissant stuck at his front teeth.

45:38 He sounds like Fauci, doesn't he? He does. He does. Yeah, elitist. I mean, croissant. When you say croissant, then you've been hanging out with Pierre in Paris too much. And he got kind of irked that Ari asked him that. Like, how dare you, American. How dare you, American? He's beaten the British accent because it's not very detectable. Right. But this is one of those things that you brought up. And once you brought it up, I can't unsee it. Where the hell did all these Brits come from to start telling Americans how to live? Right. Well, the way the No Agenda Show deconstructed it is that when it's something that needs to be communicated, that's official. Americans like hearing that from a British voice.

46:23 It comes across more authoritative. And also, just like the rest of the M5M, most of these people are spies. And a lot of these Brits are MI6 or MI5, whichever one, GCHQ. They are assets and they're out to communicate something. And no one ever questions them. He's British. Okay. Fine. I guess it's official then. I just feel it's fine. It's a different time over there. He's five hours. He's five hours later. I just find it weird. They come over here and they start dictating and telling us what America and our freedoms are.

47:03 Oh, yeah. Like, honestly, like, you're the, of all people, you're the last people that could tell us about freedom. I thought that was settled over 200 years ago. Yeah. But it's just, I find it fascinating that the, like you say, it's elitism. It's you're dumb. You're ignorant. You don't know what you're talking about. Believe our science, believe what we're saying. And I'm just going to put it on the table. At the end of the day, I or anybody else doesn't have to tell anybody why we don't want to do anything. See, I think we've jumped the shark on that one, having to explain ourselves.

47:46 Do you want a shot? No. Why? Because I said so. Yeah. Well, it's even worse. I mean, I get emails every day from people who want to claim a religious exemption, and it's gone so far. When you see the question, it's templatized by now. It's kind of the same thing. But first of all, it's sincerely held religious belief. So you have to attest that this is a sincerely held religious belief. That right there, that language itself is unconstitutional. If you're saying, well, basically, you need to prove that you're really sincere about your religion. No. No. That it's gotten to that point is crazy.

48:27 It's not trying to prove anything. Nothing. No, no. And people need to stop there. Stop. No, I don't have to prove that. But we've tried to go along to get along. Yeah. That's the American way. We always try to be nice people. We try to be friendly and neighborly, and we're being taken advantage of. But not but, but he said, but the reason I brought up but, he said, oh, yeah, you're entitled to the sanctity of your body, but no, there's no but after that. No, no, there's no but after that. There should not be, no. But that just goes to show you how far we've gotten away from the narrative of if I don't want something, I don't want to have to have it.

49:11 And I find it fascinating how this flies in the face of. the liberal thinkings of respectability politics and doing what's expected of you. You know, that was the whole thing. Like, you shouldn't have to, you know, comb your hair, you know, because that's what people expect you to do. Well, again, I do. Well, again, going back to the original lie, the reason why this is, this is, and it's just people just forget, is because this fake, false lie, this narrative that you can spread it if you don't have symptoms. So the, and the logical conclusion is you need to take the vaccine to protect others except you.

49:51 And that's not true. And that's why this confusion gets there. It's because the people who are all in on this and don't understand because they're in hypnosis, they don't see that what they say, what they are saying is ridiculous. You should not have to explain anything because that should only be your choice because you will not harm anyone. Could you imagine this? Let's take it away from COVID. Let's take it away from that. Let's say somebody was going through a sex change and they want access to the proper bathroom with their chosen gender. And they said, well, before you can do that, let's see if you need to. We need you to fill out this document to see, like, are you top and bottom?

50:37 Is this kind of like a certain thing you do just do on the weekends? Like, how trans are you? Yeah. Let's get, are you sincerely trans? Yes. Imagine that. There you go. That's a great analogy. Imagine how that will go over. But now it's what kind of believer are you? What? But trans people don't kill other people, Mo. I'm just saying. No, I'm just, yeah, but. Of course. I understand what you're saying. It's just fascinating how it's like, and that's why their side doesn't have any logic because logic is I can plug this play, plug and play it in anywhere and it would still make sense.

51:18 Yeah. No, this is you're trying to corner people, starting with the believers, I believe, starting with the people that still want to work in this country. Because you see, a lot of people just checked out. It's like, bump it. I'll just take the unemployment while you were giving it. I don't have to worry about you taking it from me because I never went to work. And it's like, let's just kick the people. But I think there's a reason behind it. I'll get to it in a little bit why they're doing this. But let's hear more of the Lizard King. You have the right to douse yourself in gasoline,

51:57 but the police and the courts aren't going to be okay with you doing that and then running around a place where people are smoking and hugging everyone. In other words, your own body. Stop right there. Stop. Stop. There it is. I want to dissect this analogy because I think it's very telling and maybe the truth wants to come out. The way he prefaced who has the gasoline on them and who actually had the fire. Okay. You want to hear it one more time? Yeah, please. You have the right to douse yourself in gasoline, but the police and the courts aren't going to be okay with you doing that and then running around a place where people are smoking and hugging everyone.

52:39 In other words, your own body, it could be literally on your body, but as it starts to touch, get close to other people's bodies, there are public safety elements. I do want to. So are you saying that people that got their cigarettes and the fire being the vax people will set me on fire? Yeah. Yeah, because you are stupid. You douse yourself in gasoline. No, but just think about that for a minute. I know exactly what you're saying. Gasoline is harmless without fire. Yeah. I mean, of course, if you inhale it, it can kill you. But I'm just saying, if you just pour it on your clothes, it's pretty harmless. Yeah. But if I go around the smokers. So that's the vaxxers.

53:23 If you've been vaxxed, you're a smoker. Right. Yeah. The analogy backfires. It does. And that is possibly true, too, if you look at the shedding and all that stuff. That is a major concern of mine. But I'm just saying that the way he formulated that, it's like, do you not realize you're not helping your case? No. I'm covered in gas. No, he does not. He does not. Stay away from me with your cigarette. Yeah, keep your fire away from me. I'm covered in gas. Yeah, good point. I like it. But we can continue. We can get to the rest of the clip. I just want to hear that out. I like it. A pushback on the religious point, just so we understand it here, because Justice

54:08 Gorstage, I want to say, yeah, Justice Gorge. Gorsuch wrote about this in the dissent to this. So, this is the current losing side, although it may ultimately go back to the court. And he says, healthcare workers who've served on the front lines of a pandemic for the last 18 months are now being fired for adhering to their religious beliefs. What do you say to him and those workers if he makes the argument that if they have a genuine good faith religious belief, they ought to be able to adhere to it and continue to provide health care? Well, you know, healthcare workers are there to protect their patients to save their patients' lives.

54:44 And also, we want to save their lives. And so, if you have a healthcare worker that's unvaccinated, he or she can transmit the infection to their fellow healthcare worker. They can transmit it to a patient. You know, I wrote an article for JAMA, the Journal of the American Medical Association, talking about a wider freedom. FDR talked about that. The whole idea is that, you know, yes, you have a freedom over your own body, but you don't have a freedom that harms other people. Okay, he stumbled a little bit on his bullcrap statement. I didn't want to say, yeah. You know, you have the freedom, but you don't

55:27 have the arm. Yeah, okay. He couldn't even get it out. It was like, you have the freedom, but you don't, yeah, you know, this is this is they don't have the common sense on their side. So, this is the reason for the propaganda. Even the title of this video: Winning Biting Vax Mandate Get Shot in the Arm from SCOTUS. What in that those clips tells you they got a shot in the arm? It's just pure, we want to control the public narrative. That's all. Well, it's also just pathetic news stuff.

56:09 That's that's how that's how news. They're always thinking puns. Yeah, I get the pun, but I'm just saying that you would think that the ironclad case that the SCOTUS is going to hold. Now, I don't have any faith in the Supreme Court. No, I don't. And it's sad to say that. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, every time we needed them, we got screwed. I mean, so it's, I'm just speaking from my perspective of every time you think they're going to stop something that I think needs to be stopped now.

56:51 But I'll say this: their legacy is on the line. And I think that's what they care about most: their legacy. Yeah, the ones who are who know what's going on. Do you want to be the one that opens this Pandora box similar to how AIDS HIV opened the Pandora's box for the testing of medication or the lack of testing of medication? Do this SCOTUS want to be the ones that say, oh, yeah, you don't have any rights to your body?

57:32 Well, the reason why I'm going to just be, I'm going to be honest with you. The reason why I don't want to have hope is I don't want to get kicked in the nuts later by having hope. And I know that's a bad reason. Yeah, yeah. I have studied this. I have studied the Supreme Court decisions on this, going back to the original, which many people use as, in fact, I disagree seldomly with Alan Dershowitz, but I do on this one case. And I've had other professors look at this, professors of constitutional law. Back in the in the old, old pandemic days, there was a guy who said, no, I'm not going to take this vaccination.

58:10 And it went to the state's court and it went ultimately all the way. This and another case went all to the way to the Supreme Court. And the answer was the way it's explained usually today is, and absolutely the state had that right, but it's not that he lost his case and then they tied him to a gurney and jabbed him. No, they fined him because that was the only thing that really saved this case is there was no repercussions and there's no fines for not taking it from the government.

58:49 I'm not talking about not being able to eat because you lost your job. And also there were no restrictions of people who didn't have it and not walking around on the street. So you can see where that's a huge restriction and they've done a little little bit of that. The masking has changed some of that. But it's more a talking point to say Supreme Court absolutely can rule that you need to enforce a mandate, but not with the physical insertion of the needle, only with a penalty. Now, the penalty could be super severe, but not they cannot sink a needle into your arm. Okay, that's comforting.

59:35 Yeah, now you may fry, but okay, you know, at least there's no needle in your arm. And let me elaborate on this. That's comforting, he says. Funny man, Mofax. Let me speak on to the kicking the nas that I want to avoid, because I think they do have leverage when I say they, the Democrats and the ruling elite one-world government globalists. It's one thing that's not been talked about since Biden's been in office that was a hot topic during the election: flooding the courts. Yeah, packing the courts. Packing the courts, yeah. Packing the courts.

1:00:17 I think that will be a possibility if the court doesn't give them what they want. You gave us no choice. We tried to work with you not to pat the courts, but in this matter in life and death, you didn't act the right way. So now, and it could be a win-win. I mean, I'm just doing a political calculus on this. It's like, you know what? We always wanted to pack the courts anyway. Yeah. Do it. Right. So, but first, they'd have to see indication the court will rule against mandates before they start packing the court. That's a reasonable assertion. I like it, actually. And that's

1:01:00 because I haven't heard packing the court since the last time. Yes, it's been a bit. Yeah. But they still want to. And this might be the catalyst for them to say, yeah, we know what the SCOTUS is going to do, but we already have our counter move lined up to get what we wanted to have anyway for other reasons. The only thing is a little difficult right now because you still have to ascend a judge through confirmation. And that's going to be contentious because that's the Senate. It's not easy. But yeah, your point is valid. Yeah. So this guy with the nuclear option, I'm sorry to interrupt. If they blow the filibuster, you have to blow the filibuster so you can confirm

1:01:45 the judges you want on the courts. That's how it would work. And they might not even be able to pat the courts, but the conversation changes to this is this is our battle cry for 2022, 2024. Yes, yes, yes. Wow. Which is all about politics at the end of the day. Yeah. And winning elections. So Lizard King brought FDR. So he talked about the freedoms that FDR spoke about. So I went and did some research on FDR and the four freedoms, and I have two clips on it. First being number 10. You and I have seen event follow event,

1:02:26 each and every one of them a shock. A shock to our hopes for the peaceful development of modern civilization as we know it. FDR soon told Americans that they should be wary of the four fears. The fear of not being able to worship freely, the fear of losing freedom of expression, the fear of military arms, and the fear that the war would damage free commerce among nations. Have been cruelly invaded. But now it was New Year's Day, 1941, and it was time to look forward.

1:03:06 Within the White House, President Roosevelt and his advisors were preparing for the annual message to Congress. Suddenly, FDR leaned back in his chair. In a moment, he would ask his secretary to take down an idea for a new finale to the upcoming speech. It would not be for fears, but for freedoms. As he was sitting there, he was thinking about the imperative of coming up with a set of words that would lift the speech beyond the idea that we have reason to fear the Axis powers. We have reason to believe and reason to hope that we can make a difference.

1:03:44 So he articulates, sitting at his desk with his speech writers, he actually articulates right out of his head these famous words: freedom of speech and expression, freedom of worship, freedom from want, and freedom freedom from. from fear. Yeah, he's the one that said, All we have to fear is fear itself. Yeah, he also didn't want to create the UN. So I don't want to give him too many. No, no, you can't, don't give him too much kudos there, but that's a nice little list. You know, speech, what was the second one? Worship, worship, want. I like that fear of worship. Right. Want. That's nice. And then freedom from fear itself.

1:04:26 Yeah. And that's the two, but that's the two parties we have now: the Freedom Party and the Fear Party. You're right. This is it. And it's amazing that the guy that just spoke brought him up to say that, oh, Roosevelt spoke about these freedoms. But in these freedoms, I think just the ideology and just what his talking points were will lean towards more of the people that are on the side. Hey, I have a right to, first of all, say I don't want it to actually speak that from my mouth, which I think a lot of people are closeted right now. Yeah. Just hoping that their card is not pulled.

1:05:09 Pun intended and not intended. Once I said it, it sounded kind of cool. I know what you mean. You don't want your vax car pulled to see. No, no. Yeah, you're missing. You talk a good game, but you're actually not facts. Or to say, that's the actual, to be able to say it, freedom to express yourself because I don't want to. I'm expressing myself. And then, you know, the freedom to what was the other two? It was a, I know the last one was speech, worship, want, and fear. Want.

1:05:45 I want a job. Yeah. I want to work. Yeah. Just me personally, I've been working since I've been 15 years old, uninterrupted, maybe, but six months. After, what was that? 2003, 2002, where there just were no jobs. And you know, you get into that weird place where McDonald's won't hire you because you will leave. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't have enough experience to get the job that you want. So I've been in that spot. So we're talking about putting Americans that went to work every day that, you know, paid into the system, not get rid of them. And you bring up these four things. You bring up Roosevelt and freedom.

1:06:29 Yeah. But I think I understand how he uses Roosevelt because Roosevelt has a lot of communist ideas. I put them in there and I esque. Totally. He brought in huge welfare state. Yeah. The Grand New Deal. The Great New Deal. He brought in Social Security, a lot of these things, which they kind of make sense. But I think I always make this point because I'm not a socialist by any means, but I do think America should have a strong social safety net to spring people back into work.

1:07:15 Sure. Like, you know, you're out of work. Let's not give you like a, you know, a little piece of crumbs and just let you linger for years and years and years on welfare. How about we give you a nice sum of money up front? And if you don't do right by that, you're on your own. Instead of like breaking off these little pieces and give it to you where you never can get yourself going again. So I'm, I'm, which I think that's created by design for it to be that way where you get trapped into poverty and people can politic on your behalf for their gain. So those are the four freedoms by FDR. Yeah, I like that. I never actually heard those. I appreciate you diving into that. And they were the counter to the four fears.

1:07:59 What are our four fears now? COVID, climate, nationalism. You know, we need to be global. We need to be global. It's all there. We don't need to have borders. And then I don't know what you consider maybe the fourth freedom, maybe the economy, inflation, when you look at the, you know, that would be under want. Under want would be inflation, reduction of buying power. Right. So we're right back at where we are there with what we're facing these global fears. But instead of a totalitarian madman like Hitler, we have an undetectable disease.

1:08:44 Yeah. And what I mean by undetectable, I'm not talking about the PCR test. I'm talking about you can't see who hasn't, who doesn't have it. Right. By the point you made about the. ACT? Yeah, anybody can have it. You mean it could be? Yeah, you've completely made people afraid of cooties. Right. Circle, circle, dot, dot. So let's see. Let's get into the second part of four freedoms. In the future days, which we seek to make secure, we look forward to a world founded upon four essential human freedoms.

1:09:30 The first is freedom of speech and expression everywhere in the world. The second is freedom of every person to worship God in his own way everywhere in the world. The third is freedom from want, which translated into world terms means economic understandings, which will secure to every nation a healthy peacetime life for its inhabitants everywhere in the world.

1:10:19 The fourth is freedom from fear, which translated into world terms means a worldwide reduction of armaments to such a point and in such a thorough fashion that no nation will be in a position to commit an act of physical aggression against any neighbor anywhere in the world. You know, they really should have turned FDR onto StreamYard back in the day. Man, his audio sucks. But you know, the funny thing is,

1:10:59 him using radio and harnessing what our audience is. It was magic, man. That was the shit. And I'll always talk about these new technologies and how people harness them for their benefit. We have Obama. He was kind of like the internet president. Well, yeah, that's what they said. Sure. It's a different. I mean, it's a different because everybody talked about that his mailing list, his mailing list, you know, that kind of thing. I think he really caught on using the internet. Now, Trump, he's a social media president, which is, we have to separate those two.

1:11:37 Then you go back to television. That would be JFK because that was a huge reason why he beat Nixon. Because the way he actually understood optics and how you look on television. And going back to FDR, he harnessed the power of the radio where people would sit around and listen to his speeches on the radio and it would kind of soothe them and calm them in the times that were going crazy. So that's the four freedoms. And I just, like I said, I found it funny that he invoked FDR, but I think he's thinking more of the globalist.

1:12:20 Oh, absolutely. You win. Yeah, oh, yeah. That's exactly. That's exactly. Well, people forget. You know, they forget all the good. Well, that's for every president. There's always been good and bad things and the things that get taken forward throughout time and are then highlighted. And of course, determine what everyone thinks the guy was. Yeah, I mean, we saw that with Johns Hopkins. Johns Hopkins doesn't necessarily mean what they stand for today. Right. They hijack these names. And I just want to make one point before we move on. We've talked about the shadow presidency that I think is going on. I don't know where you stand on it, but could it be that Barry O sees himself as FDR?

1:13:08 Oh, I think he saw himself as FDR when he was 10 years old. Absolutely. The long reign, the long reign of he had his eight years, and now he, from my perspective, did you see those four years? Did you see him at COP26? Did you see his pompous ass up there and the way he was orating? I didn't see that. Oh, yo, yo, yo, yo. Totally. That's why I can say so. I don't even have to think about it. He's doing an FDR thing right now on the world stage. So we got the fears in place like FDR had in place. Now here comes the, I think they can't get.

1:13:49 get a great new deal in right now, like a huge thing. So it's like, let's get it piecemeal. And that's where you see these huge bills, the infrastructure bill, and other things, trillions of dollars just being handed out all over the place. And I think UBI is part of that as well. I didn't go there in this episode, but getting people comfortable with being home. Oh, I'm all in on that. A couple of things. Getting people comfortable with being at home, getting people comfortable with no physical cash.

1:14:32 These types of things. That's the kind of stuff that I think is the stuff we haven't really even gotten to discuss, but it's just there. I just think, I think the long-term picture, they look at it like, hey, well, even if we had to take a step back, which they had to take a step back with Trump's four years, we still move forward, right? We'll get Biden in, and then hopefully Kamala get in. She'll do eight. He's just going to do what his daddy Bush did, basically. Daddy Bush. Yes. No, I know. We know the bloodlines. We did that episode. It's just funny. Like I said, every time it's amazing how they're just magnetic to each other now.

1:15:17 It's crazy. This is just, I'm going to go on a brief tangent, but every time I see it, it just boils my blood to see a person campaign that this person's a war criminal, and then you're piling around with them, you know, X amount of years later, like everything's cool. Nah, it don't work that way. That just goes to show you that that's what I bring that up to say that's why the public are like, we don't care what y'all talk about because y'all don't really mean it. I think we got to the point now where the public don't believe none of this. Now you have your 30% that you're talking about that's buy-in to whatever the mainstream media tells them.

1:15:59 And they're going to go that way. But a lot of people just like, it's all BS anyway. Well, again, it's 30%. 30% are 100% all in. 30% are 0% all in. And then there's 40% in the middle, which is just going with the initial 30%. But, you know, that's where we chip away. They're rocking with the winners. I would hope so. I would hope so. Well, no, they're just looking to see which side the 30% is winning. And they run up on it. They don't really have a stance. That 40%. It's like, well, 30% is winning. And we'll throw our weight behind that. Good to know. Yeah, good point. So we stopped, I think, 11.

1:16:42 Let's go ahead and get into 12. This is Biden's vaccine mandates for companies temporarily halted. Meanwhile, the Biden administration's federal vaccine mandate for companies with at least 100 employees was temporarily blocked by a federal appeals court on Saturday. A three-judge panel on the New Orleans-based fifth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the new rules raise, quote, grave statutory and constitutional issues. The court gave the Justice Department until 5 p.m. today to respond to the lawsuit filed by GOP-led states and businesses.

1:17:21 This comes as more than 15 states have filed lawsuits against the administration over its federal vaccine mandate for companies. But White House chief of staff, Ron Clain, says he is certain the mandate will still stand. I'm quite confident that when this finally gets fully adjudicated, not just a temporary order, the validity of this requirement will be upheld. It's common sense, Chuck. If OSHA can tell people to wear hard hat on the job, to be careful on chemicals, it can put in place these simple measures to keep our workers safe. All right, let's bring in right now state attorney for Palm Beach County, Dave Verenberg, and former prosecutor Charles Coleman.

1:18:03 Charles, you know, people look at this ruling. They may see the headlines and go, oh my gosh, this is a huge setback for the Biden administration. But we need to put some context here. Sure. I mean, I can't believe you watch Morning Joe. That's so harsh. I mean, you should get danger pay for that alone. I have to have to go where the story leads me. I know. But you heard what he said. If you read the headlines, and that's why I made a big deal about the previous headline, winning Biden vax mandate gets winning like it's already won. Right. Winning Biden vax mandate gets shot in the arm from SCOTIS. Now,

1:18:46 days later, they come with this headline: Biden's vaccine mandate for companies temporarily halted for federal appeals. Yeah, how does that work? Because what people do is they read the headlines and they might watch the first minute of the video and then like, oh, send it out. Like, oh, it's halted or it's shot in the arm was winning. And they're fighting for that 40% that you highlighted to see which way they can get them to swing. Yeah, headlines will do it because most people only read headlines, pass it on. And even if they do click on it, it's usually a paywall. They never get to the story. Right. They leave just enough above the paywalls

1:19:29 to get the important information, to get the truth, get the truth first. The facts are always up top, people. Yep. It is like, well, if you don't want to pay, then you just, we got, you, you read what you read what we wanted you to read. Yep. Um, so let's talk Virginia for a minute. I don't think me and you had a chance to talk Virginia. I think Virginia had a lot to do with this halt with states, red states putting their big boy pants on and saying, hold up, the people might be, don't want this. Oh, it was the huge shot in the butt for, and you say red states because it was a political boost. And all politics, I've learned now. I mean, President of the United States, there you go.

1:20:14 The president went there. The vice president went there. The former President Obama went there. Everybody was there. Everybody was doing everything they could to pull this Jamoke over the finish line and they couldn't do it because local rules. And when the, and you don't need a whole nation. You just get, you know, as long as you can organize this case, it looked to be parents and parents were bringing it together. And now that's the blueprint. Or as you say, you know, flip on the Xerox, let's go. And even the Democratic media, Democrat-infused media was saying, well, now the Republicans have a blueprint. So I'll say, yeah, that's totally good, but I don't give Republicans any break.

1:20:58 Screw them. They're just as bad as the rest. They see political gain. Now they get into action. And this whole CRT thing, I didn't make mention of this aspect of it, but CRT or combating CRT was a chosen horse or the beta run for these vax mandates and mask mandates. Agreed. See, they couldn't come in there saying, oh, we're anti-masks, we're anti-vax. You're not going to vax our kids. So it's like, you're not going to teach my kids critical race theory. You know, and everything. And that's the ownership of the kids. That's why the ownership of the kids was the key argument. Who owns the kids? Do the state own them? Right. Then we can jab them. Or does the parent own them? You can't jab them.

1:21:42 Yes, yes. And they use critical race theory as the proxy argument. It was really about those masks. And you notice that's why the approval waited to after the election. After the election, yes. Not just the, no, the, I believe Pfizer even held back on saying that they had a viable candidate until after the election. It was that disgusting. It's like, oh, we can hold off a couple of weeks. Who cares? Let's just see what no unnecessary deaths here. Yeah, no unnecessary deaths here, but okay.

1:22:28 But yeah, Virginia was a battleground state in a sense of, you know, it's a middle ground state. The reason why, the way it's constructed, you have a lot of rural areas all over, and you have this large population bubble right at the top of the state adjacent to DC and Maryland. I know you didn't vote. Excuse me, DC and Maryland. I know you didn't vote in the previous election. I was just curious, since you live in the area, did you vote in this Virginia election? I did not. I'll say this. You're consistent. Did you go to a school board meeting? I did not. Okay. The reason why I didn't, I took my kids out of school.

1:23:07 Yes. You did one better than that. If I don't get what I want for my money, I'm not going to. My thing is this. I didn't want to have to put my kids in and had to take them out once they were saying this decision is made. I could kind of read the tea leaves. I've been preparing for getting mandated because I could read the tea leaves. So it's not out of just like, oh, app. apathy to say, oh, you know, nothing's going to change. No, this is what more parents need to do. Oh, totally. Now, I know a lot, I know a lot can't.

1:23:48 And this is why we had the conversation about hybrid. I think if communities work together, hey, I can get out this day, I'll run to school. You get off that day, you run school. But it'll have to be a collective of people in neighborhoods and communities to have each other's backs. Because a lot of people, both parents, have to work. Luckily, I've been working from home. And my wife, she hasn't worked because she worked in the healthcare field. So it's like, we're not going to put you in undue risk. We'll just go without. That's the kind of thing we've been doing. It's like, no, we'll just, we'll just go without. No vacations, no whatever, but you're not going to work.

1:24:30 No. And that's, that's, this is what's going to have to happen. And I'm speaking to my people that the pro-choice people. With choice comes responsibility. You're big on this, Adam. If you don't like social media, build your own. That's right. If you don't like whatever, build your own. This is where we're going to have to be at for my pro-choice people because we do live in a capitalistic society. If my job says, if my job said, you know what? You don't want to get a jab, you're fired. Fine. That's your choice as a business, right? We live in a capitalist society. Fine. But when you

1:25:15 get in this cabal and kind of do this price fixing kind of thing, like none of us are going to hire anybody that's not vaxxed. That's the problem I have with it. No, because I want people to compete. I want the guy to third or fourth in competition to say, you know what? Let me get some of those vax guys. You know what I'm saying? Let me cherry pick off, but that's business. That's capitalism. But as you said, a lot of companies are cow talent to the government. And it's a circular thing. Like, who really is? It's not even the government. It's really the big hedge funds, investment firms, pension funds all run under this new.

1:25:55 It's called ESG investing. It's a super real thing. And down the road, we're going to see that all of this kind of ties in. It all ties in. Mandatory vaccinations, creating more data about people, particularly health data, moving that more towards climate change. This is not stopping. This is, you know, everyone who is compliant now will be compliant for the climate lockdowns, which will come. And I think it'll come in the one thing they learned from this whole experience is keeping those numbers up on the screen on the right, you know, right fifth of the screen, how many dead. You know, why not just have a counter there? Climate deaths today.

1:26:40 Well, this is where I have faith in people. When they start limiting how many times you can charge your phone in a day, when those kind of things hit, you know, but it won't be. No, no, it won't be that. It won't be that. It's going to be, you should not have any more real beef this month. You've already used up too much carbon from cow farts. You need to have some 3D printed beef. That's how it's going to happen. Even then, I don't think the young people are going to go. I think, and I know I say I think a lot, but this is, I believe that the young people are looking around.

1:27:22 They're in that 40% to say which side is the popular thing to say until it impacts them. Yeah. Until you tell them they can't have any more Chick-fil-A. Right. Until you tell them they can't have any more Starbucks. Until you can't, all these products. Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on. Hold on. No. The Starbucks and the Chick-fil-A will be continued to be encouraged. They will not. No, no, no. That will be encouraged. That's all processed. That's all crap. That's part of the system. No, I'm talking about some real food. Well, I mean, you have the, you know, the, I think the young people have a better understanding of food than older people.

1:28:03 We'll see. We'll see. I believe that. I truly believe that. Sure. I have faith in the older millennials. I think they're in that 40%. A lot of them. You know, 25 to 30%. It really hasn't hit home yet. Like I said, for me. But you don't, but when it hits home, right? But when it hits home, people got to be aware. I hope it's not too late because now we can still stop it. Now we can still stop it. It's never too late. I believe that. I think that's why. And you know what tells me that? Is the way they're, excuse my lane, but pussyfooting around it.

1:28:42 Well, they got the juice. Yeah. You don't do it. Yeah. No, if they had the juice, if they had the juice, they wouldn't need all the propaganda. That's obvious. They're not done at all. They are not done by a long shot. But the marketing, the marketing is there, and the marketing is going to continue to spin up. And I don't even think they have the funding for it. Not yet. And let me let me tell you where I'm at. I don't think we ever discussed this. Right. And I'll make it quick. There's only two groups of people. There's the more people group, more people is good for business, or less people is good for business. That's the only two groups it is. Yes. Well, the elites, the less people is good for business.

1:29:26 They have chosen to have, if you listen to COP26, and I watched a lot of the sessions, the whole idea is this climate change, all these trillions of dollars, that's going to come from commercial companies, you see. But the old money, and see, this is where I get to the point of more cars, more gas, more people, more children. That's been our business model. That has been our business model since the beginning of time. Now, you come with this, not you, but the less people party comes and say, you know what? If we kill off everybody, now it's crazy. Now, hear me out.

1:30:08 And I'm not, you this is how they're selling it. I know it sounds crazy, but we can have more with less, more with less. And the money sitting around, like, that sounds good, but we've done business like this for 300, 400, 500 years. More babies, more people, more gas, more cars. You know what I'm saying? More tires, more, you know, and that's the way we've done business. And I think they're doing their sales pitch right now to say, trust me, less people will be good. And it's really the big money. They're sitting back and saying, ah, well, let's see. Make your proposal. And they're not convinced. I don't, like I said, if it was, if they were convinced, we'll all be cooked.

1:30:50 It'll all be Australia right now. So it will be possible for a long time. The reason why I'm not so bullish as you are is because the ESG investing goes anti-bottom line. It is not about making more profit. And it is a thing. And it has been shoved into the public markets mainly as it's an attack. And all these CEOs and all these companies know. And of course, if you look at the, just look at any news story.

1:31:26 You cannot, as a pension fund, as an endowment, at any kind of investment firm with partners or constituents, you cannot invest in ExxonMobil. It is not allowed because of the ESG investing rules. Even though right now, you'd be making bank because the price of oil almost doubled in 24 months, you cannot invest in them. So that has been our business, and I'm totally with you on that. But this woke paradigm has taken over Wall Street and people are just going along with it.

1:32:07 And half the people, I know people on boards. I'm like, what are you guys doing? He said, no, no, no. ESG is real. We have all these different things and BlackRock has nothing to do with it. I send him three articles. Like, holy crap. Oh, that's interesting. You made my point. You made the point I was trying to get to. They're showing numbers. Like, look at this graph and look at this algorithm. They're saying this is good. And, you know, but they're not showing profit. They're not showing it in the same way. They're saying this is the market we will create, which will be, you know, renewable, so-called, you know, solar panels, wind, whatever, electricity, wires, all these different things.

1:32:47 But they are forcing, forcing commercial companies to make these investments, I believe, against their better judgment. That's my point. You got to the point I'm making. It's against their better judgment. Okay. And it's a very fragile situation right now because what if people say, you know what? Screw it. Screw it. I mean, just screw all of it. Well, that's possible. That's possible. The old money is going to say, well, wait, hold on here. Hold on here a minute. And we saw a glimpse of this, a blip of this with Trump in office. It was like they were headed that way until Trump said, yeah, bring your trillions on back to America.

1:33:29 You know what I'm saying? We want. won't tax you. And it was like, Oh, that's the best money move. And all these people operate off of his money. That's it. That's all. They don't care about the climate. They don't care about the boops. Well, when you say the people, and I'm looking at corporate governance, everybody wants one thing: share buyback so the price goes up. Everyone's invested in that. They don't care. It's not about if the bottom line has to influence the stock price. That's what it is. But you don't need the bottom line. You don't need a bottom line to have the stock price go up. You just need to have enough access to free money so you can buy your own stock. Well, there is a number we got to get to a little later. We'll get there, but I think we stopped at 12 and 13 now. We're at 13.

1:34:14 13. Let's go. Yeah, good morning, Jonathan. I agree with Charles. The Fifth Circuit has the reputation of not just being the most conservative federal appellate court, but also the most political and also the least tethered to precedent. Remember, this is the same court that refused to intervene in the notorious Texas abortion law that allowed that to go into effect, the one that creates vigilante justice to get around Roe versus Wade. And here, they're doing the opposite. They're actually intervening using a different rule instead of just going to this traditional way of issuing a preliminary injunction. They just said, Hey, we find there are grave, statutory, and constitutional issues here.

1:34:54 And so they're acting pretty political. You can see why the Supreme Court, where Chief Justice Roberts has expressed concerns about politics, that this could exacerbate the public perception of the court as just politicians wearing black robes. And I do think the U.S. Supreme Court will reinstate the mandate after the Fifth Circuit does away with it. Because first, it's not really a mandate. I mean, this is something that allows an opt-out for people who are unvaccinated to go ahead and just get tested weekly for COVID. And secondly, there's the 1905 Jacobson ruling where the Supreme Court said that vaccine mandates at the state and local level are constitutional. Justice in a seven to two ruling said that one person's liberty does not override everyone else's.

1:35:37 Now, we're not totally sure if that ruling will apply to a federal vaccine mandate, but this Supreme Court doesn't seem to have too much sympathy for anti-vaxxers, as evidenced by Justice Barrett's ruling for Indiana University in August against students who complained about the vaccine mandates there. Yeah, there you go. That was the case I was talking about, the Jacobson case. But see how they play it? Oh, yeah, it's constitutional. But you hear the nervousness in their voice. Totally. They understand that this is their last shot. So they got to go for all.

1:36:19 With the information age that we live in, when you actually go and look for facts, you can find them. So they're in a weird spot right now with the independent medias like we do here and all over. It's like, screw your cable package. I'll go watch YouTube for free. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. I'll go to whatever. You know what I'm saying? It's a whole long list of them. Oh, you don't want me there? Okay. That's where they don't want people at. The beautiful thing about America is they want you fat, dumb, and happy. That's about it, brother. And we're not happy. You know,

1:36:59 it don't feel good to save the planet. I know, I know. Yeah, I said it. It doesn't feel good to save the planet if it's what it costs. It's going to cost me. I'm thinking just like the people at the top are thinking. No, uh-uh, no. I'm looking, I'm saying, no, uh-uh. I don't care about how great my 401k looks because you're investing in sustainable. I don't care. Give me my gas. I don't want an electric car. And I think it's a severe miscalculation that they don't understand the psychology of average people. Well, yeah, they don't. This is what happens. They don't care. They actually do understand it. They just don't care.

1:37:43 And I like in this, you watch Mad Men. I watch Mad Men. You remember the old, the guy that was, I forget his name. He was an alcoholic. He cleaned himself up and he was a copywriter. And he would, remember, he would tell them, like, oh, sell the product because women want to get married. And they went all around their way around the block doing studies and blah, blah, blah. They don't have any more of those guys in the room. Those older guys that say, you know what? That's not good. I've seen that before. That's not going to work. What they've done is they brought in all these new people with all their new ideas with no proof. That's right. I work with these people. No sight against them. I'm I guess I'm a late millennial in 1980.

1:38:27 I don't know where I fall at. I'm a late millennial with boomer tendencies. Yes, you are. No, because I was raised by my grandparents. So that's where you gotta. Yeah, of course. Right. I'm heavy on the boomer. But that's it doesn't make sense. And it's like, trust me, it'll make that's how they're trying to sell it to us. And especially people my age, we're looking like, hold on. You want to fire people? Right. Like, that's the like they don't understand workers' code. The last thing you do as a worker is want to fire somebody. They don't get that. And everybody's laying real low, I'll bet.

1:39:10 Yeah, because, yeah, especially with the boot, boom, uh, boot, I said, boomer talk, the booster talk. Now it's like, oh, okay. Yeah, like, what's your number? I'm asking everybody now. What's your number? Write your number down. Was it three boosters, four boosters, ten boosters? Yeah. Just get ready. When you hit your number, you'll be on my side. And it's not out of trying to win you on my side, but that's just the reality of the situation that they're going to keep pushing this until we stand up. And I don't think I don't think they understand who we are. We've gone along to get along. I'm telling you, don't, don't. I think Ice Q said, I ain't no killer, but don't push me. Or that's Tupac. Like, don't, don't, you know what I'm saying? Don't

1:39:56 push me. I'm close to the edge. You see, it, and like I said, we've been at the bottom for a long time. Everybody's about to start joining us and feel like what the bottom really feels like. Brother, I'm unvaxed at the bottom right there with you. And what the bottom I'm talking about is so-called black people. Because the real, to be honest with you. No, I don't get to ride that bottom. Not yet. No, you don't want to ride it. But I'm just saying, black people have in the back of their mind, like, what if I get fired today? What if somebody says something I really don't like and I have to say something back? You know what I'm saying? Like, that's a that's a, I wouldn't say a daily thought, but it crossed your mind. Like, what would I do? I think, and I think everybody's starting to see that.

1:40:38 Well, you say something that people don't like, you might get fired. I would say, and this only goes along with your prediction, you're first. I would say that there are men all over the country who have that thought every single day. You said one more thing about men, one more thing about, you know, whatever it is, cis hetman, whatever it is, mansplaining, stylos. Yeah, that's uh, that's a real thing. That's, of course, you know, we, and we have uh, in you know, we have a chemical composition that anger is a part of our being. That's what men have, so yeah, especially when they talk about mama bear, they talk about mama bear. Yeah, that's pretty interesting. I've seen you not seen nothing till you've seen Papa Bear. Thank you very much.

1:41:20 Thank you very much. You're so right. And I, and I love the whole mama bear vibe, and it's fine, but yeah, Papa Bear. That's that's beware. Because if you watch Animal Planet or any of these shows, like the hyenas come and attack the women on the pride and the lion pride, yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like, they'll handle their business, but when they let out that certain call, there's the papa. When you let out that certain call, here come, you know what I'm saying? Here comes Simba over to you saying, and he kicked everybody's ass. Excuse my language. And that's that's the power of Mama Bear because she has that call to say, all right, daddy.

1:41:59 All right, like we took all we could take. You know what I'm saying? That's the only thing. I'm telling you. Now, Mama Bear is powerful because she's the only thing that's holding civility together right now. Because you talk about my kids starving. All right. I mean, do you really want to go there? I'm just asking, do y'all written? And I'm not saying it in a violent way. I'm saying that is where does it stop? It's a lot of men out here. Some are going to go to the bottles, some are going to go to other things. And then some is going to be like, you know what? Okay. And it's going to be some that build new things. Yeah, yeah. The pressure is going to create some diamonds too. So I'm not, I'm not, you know what I'm saying, completely doomed out.

1:42:40 But I'll just say to both sides, like, be careful. This, this beautiful system that we have, even though it has flaws, this beautiful system that we have, do you really want to break it, old money? I'm talking to you, old money. Do y'all really want to risk it on the less people? They really don't give a shit, Mo. Sorry. I think they care because the bottom line, I'm appealing to their motherfuckers. I think at a certain point, bottom line may not matter, but okay. We'll see. We'll see. That's how I see it. But let's go ahead and get to 14. Charles, this is about companies being able to have a safe workplace. I'm trying to understand what's unconstitutional about it. I mean, is there anything? any potential that

1:43:22 those pushing against this mandate for businesses with what 100 employees or more? There's a lot of businesses across the country that want to be back to work at full capacity and getting this economy back on track. Well, what I found interesting about this case is that what they used as a means of trying to argue this wasn't necessarily a matter of should they be able to do it. It was a question of the authority under OSHA because OSHA essentially made this regulation or approved this regulation under emergency authority. I don't know that that's going to be enough down the line, particularly given what we've seen in terms of COVID and the economy and the work and the amount of strain that is placed on different workspaces in order to try to get this vaccine mandate done away with.

1:44:08 I don't think that's going to be enough because the cost has been so great on the American people and so great on the country that more than likely what the court is going to do is basically validate that OSHA did have the authority to in fact make this ruling and support what the Biden administration is trying to do. Dave Aaron Brown. Boy, it's going to be a real one. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm sorry, Mika. You go. I'm just saying that the Delta variant is still actually, it's, you know, still very much a part of our lives. We have got many months to go at the rate that we're going right now in order to have COVID behind us. These mandates are proven to work. Look at New York City.

1:44:51 Hey, yeah, Pris works. Look at New York City. And she said the quiet part out loud. First 10 seconds of that clip. If you listen again, if you want to play it right, Charles, this is about companies being able to have a safe workplace. I'm trying to understand what's unconstitutional about it. I mean, safe workplace. That's the whole point right there. Get the slaves back to work. We need them back in the building. That's the real, and I blame mid-level management for this because they go in there, they don't meet their goals for the quarter and a half of the year. And they say, you know, if my guys was here on site, it would be so much better. Yeah, we would have hit our goal.

1:45:33 You know, it's just, you know, they're not here on site. So that's that's what's pushing. That's why I said all this hinges on the bottom line because these companies are like, we need our people back into the building because this is why we're not making our numbers, which is not true. Which is not true. No, it's the opposite as far as I'm concerned. Right. I haven't had a better work-life balance outside the COVID thing, you know what I'm saying? Ever. Because I can work for a few hours. I can go, you know, hang out with kids for a two hours and go back to work. And I'm working later than I normally work. You know, it allows you to break your day up. Like, if you're in the building for eight hours and you leave, I'm home. Don't bother me. You know, but now it's like, okay, one hand scrap washes the other.

1:46:17 If you need me to be here a little later, I'll take off in the middle of the day and then I'll come log in a little later and do what needs to be done. But it's this mid-level management that's blaming the people not being there for their failures. It's very reminiscent of mid-level state or city government. Same way. We need more money for why is the federal government looking like we gave you $2 billion? Well, you know, it just kind of got away from us. We need more. So I'm just pointing that out. But she kind of pumped the brakes on saying they're in a weird spot right now because they want to say, well, the Delta variant is trending down, but they still need to keep pressure applied.

1:47:06 So at the end of that clip, last clip, she was like, well, the Delta variant is going to kind of be with us for a while. And the reason why she said that is in the 1480s, this is a little short clip. This is how they led this segment off. I think we're close to the end of this. This Delta wave is the last major wave of infection. We've always said that two of the events that would demarcate the end of this pandemic was being able to vaccinate our children. We're now able to do that down to age five. And also having a widely available or orally accessible drug that could treat coronavirus at home to prevent people from being hospitalized or dying. Yeah, okay. So first of all, let's just consider the source of this 19-second intro.

1:47:46 This is Scott Gottlieb, former FDA commissioner who left the FDA during the Trump administration and went straight to Pfizer on the board. Yep. And he's telling us the vax is great. This is what we wanted. Delta's gone. Nothing else. There's no scientific evidence that's been published that proves that. And he says, and you know, and of course, we've got a great pill coming up, another Pfizer product. He said it's the last major wave. How can you be so cavalier and confident to say it's a delta? he's from the SDA, man? He knows these things. He got the crystal ball. So now you heard why she said how she had to say it, like, uh, it's she wanted to say that, oh, Delta variant's killing us, but then she had to remember, like, oh, no, that's narrative.

1:48:29 No, because the timing of the pill, the timing of the pill is how the variant ends. So now I firmly believe the pill is that's the Pfizer's end strategy. Yes, they will come up with boosters every six months, but I think the pill is there. It's like a subscription donation, you know? It's like, let's just get a let's get a cut a couple hundred million people on this thing. Two thousand dollars a month. But we ruined the, excuse me. We ruined the rollout for the pill for them. That's what I'm saying. The power, I'm not dooming today, and I'm not glooming. The power is in our hands. Once people start saying

1:49:13 fibromectin, it's like shit. We got ramp up the pill. You know, like they're talking about our competition. We don't really want to talk about it right now, but we got to. So their whole timeline is thrown off. They, I'm sure they didn't want to talk about this pill they're talking about for a while now. Why would you want to have, why would you want to have conflicting products on the market? We got the vaccine going. We got the government buying it handover fish. You know what I'm saying? Four or five shots out. Yeah, well, no, I think this is their hedge. You know, the last thing they want is people to really turn against the vaccine. They need an alternative. So it may be a hedge, maybe the strategy. I understand what you're saying.

1:49:55 And like I say, I think it was a hedge, but I don't think they really play that card yet. But when you have somebody like Rogan come out and then you have somebody like Aaron Rodgers come out, time to accelerate. It's like, damn it. Like we wanted to get at least, you know, four or five shots out this booster. Yeah, what's your number? What's your number? What's your number? Now we go to the supply chain. Retail CEOs are telling consumers to start shopping for the holidays now. And this time, it's not a marketing technique. For the first time, there's a kink in every link in the supply chain. We've seen shutdowns in areas in China, shutdowns in warehousing and trucking facilities in the United States.

1:50:40 Couple the logistics nightmare with strong consumer spending, four times higher than typical in July. Jay Foreman is the CEO of Basic Fun, which sells Care Bears, Kinects, Tonka trucks, and more to retailers like Amazon, Walmart, and Colts. The transportation and the supply chain can't keep up with the demand. There's not enough containers. There are not enough ships. There's not enough trucks. There's not enough warehousing to hold everything that everybody wants to buy this year. The tight logistics makes the transportation of goods much more expensive. Last year, around this time, the typical container cost roughly just under $2,000.

1:51:20 Right now, we're seeing cost increases up over $20,000 per container. And each container, we can fit about 10,000 units. And Ann Harper, CEO and founder of OMG Accessories, uses around 200 containers per year. The inflated prices are costing her an extra $2 million to get her backpacks and accessories to retailers from Nordstrom to TJ Maxx. Yep. This is where I think they're going to use the unvaxxed people, unvaccinated people. Okay. We're going to be the people that broke Christmas.

1:52:01 Of course. That's so obvious. Yes. We're going to be the people that broke Christmas because they need a PAXI. This supply chain thing is a problem. It's been a problem. We've seen them taking folding chairs and actually unfolding them and putting them on shelves. We've seen even them hanging cards of what was on the shelves, on the shelves. Excuse me. They need a scapegoat and they're going to use us for who broke the supply chain. If these people would have only come to work, you know, Christmas wouldn't have been ruined.

1:52:43 Right. Well, that's, I think I heard our, oh, I think I heard both our energy secretary and transportation secretary say something to the effect of the only way the supply chain problem ends is when everyone's vaccinated. That's the, yeah, because they want to blame the reason. They're not saying it because they believe that. No, no, I'm with you. I'm strengthening the argument. argument. The real reason is because they've encouraged people not to work. Yes. Well, that's one of the real reasons. And now it's now the slack has caught and caught up because, as people calmly saying, I don't know how true it is. We only have about four or five days' worth of food on the shelves and grocery stores.

1:53:28 When you have a Black Friday, that's going to be interesting. And people just go and buy out everything you can't stock. See, like I said, I've worked just about every job imaginable. And I've been a stock guy. Not Wall Street, but actually stocking shelves. And you got to get those shelves stopped back up as fast as they get unloaded, especially around Black Friday. So you have like pallets sitting in the middle of the floor of stuff ready to go on the shelves on the anticipation. I'll tell you one better, Mo. I'll tell you there's going to be nothing on Black Friday because they're going to open up early on Thursday. It's going to get cleaned out Thursday night. Then what? Then we're going to see some pretty angry people.

1:54:14 They're going to blame us. Yes, of course. Of course. If only you would have came to work. Yep. But these clips I have are from way like months ago when the supply chain was not months ago, but like beginning of the month, maybe two months ago. I have about six clips from three different sources. They're going to blame us that if these people would have just came to work, none of this would happen. But what we have to understand is how Christmas supports the rest of the year. Oh, it's the in America, it's the time of year. And you talk about Mama Bear? Now, you now, you want to talk about Mama Bear. Let it not, let them babies not have no Christmas.

1:54:58 Yeah, this is going to come. This is going to be a problem. Come hook or crook. And I can only speak for my culture. I don't care what your economic status is. The baby's got to have Christmas. There's something under the tree. There's a tree. Yeah, first of all, you got to have a tree. I don't care if it's family got a pool in. It's like, yeah, you know, you know how Teresa is. You know what I'm saying? And babies got to have Christmas. You know what I'm saying? You kick in the money. And that's like every kid has to wake up with something under the tree for Christmas. Y'all really want to play this game where it won't be no Christmas? No.

1:55:37 You thought those school meeting boards were bad. We've stamped. We have traffic scotted people over, you know what I'm saying? Teddy Ruppens and Tickle Me Elmos. Yes. Somebody dies every Black Friday from being trampled every Black Friday. At least one. And now you want to say the stores are empty. Is that really what you want to do? And that's why they're pushing this thing. Get your Christmas shopping done early. Get your Christmas shopping done early because they're trying to spread that out. Because as humans do, we always wait till the last minute to go shopping. That's just the habit of especially humans with a penis. This is what we do every day. Very well. I wasn't going to gender it.

1:56:23 No, I'll gender it. I'll gender it. I know. That's what we do. It's like, ah, I got to go get something like last night, the night before Christmas. Yeah, I just got to go there, there, there, there. And Toys R Us. Oh, no, it's close. Yeah. And it then becomes a game. Like, let me see if I can get this all done on Christmas Eve. You know, that kind of thing. But just imagine if these stores are empty on the day after Black Friday. I mean, empty. Empty. I think it's possible. I see you. I think it's very possible. I laid out what I think, and now we're going to listen to the next four or five clips to see if it supports what my narrative is.

1:57:00 Number 16. Typically, when we bring in products from overseas, it takes roughly about 30 days to get to our warehouse in California. Right now, with all the delays that we're experiencing, we're seeing anywhere from six to eight plus weeks delay. Put it all together. Empty shelves and higher prices are inevitable. When 40 or 50% of the cost of the product is in the freight, that's going to eventually have to either tilt over to the consumer with higher prices, or in some cases, suppliers will decide to stop producing some of these

1:57:39 products because they can't bring them in profitably. Carl, it's already an issue for back to school. And Ann Harper warns this Black Friday, consumers may not see the deep discounts that they're used to. The good news is, because all the players in the supply chain are working together to absorb these higher costs, the consumer should only see price increases between 3% and 15% on the high ends. That is. if you can find what you're looking for. That may be a big if, Courtney. I know it's dangerous to guess, but how long might this supply chain nightmare last? That's a great question, Carl. I asked so many people that question. And most of the experts and people that are working through this are predicting at least through the spring of 2022, if not longer.

1:58:27 That's not going to get it. No. And you heard him say, well, you're going to, and I want people to pay attention to this. I think we're going to see Black Friday not a thing on a major scale because they can't allow that run on the stores to happen. That's going to expose everything. In my thinking, if you have that, you can't replace back fast enough what the people came in bought in bulk or came in, you know, impulse buying. I think they're going to have to say, well, you know, we're not going to have that many Black Friday sales. Here's the only else, fool. Here's the only reason I would maybe contradict

1:59:08 the great reset. The great reset that is the World Economic Forum, that is, that's, that's really the less people people. Less people, more money. They want a great reset, but you can't reset anything until something's completely broken. So I unfortunately like your theory so much. I think they will encourage the stores to be empty Friday. I think they will encourage the shelves to be empty. I really do. And I don't disagree with you, except for one reason: is do they understand the ramifications of that?

1:59:54 Like, this is not going to be just, oh, well, the stores are empty. I'm just going to go home now. No. We've seen women harm each other physically over the last tickle me elmo. Yeah, but doesn't you? Yeah, but that plays into less people, more for us. I'm a little more cynical. I think they totally have it in them, and I think they know the risk, and I think they're fine with it. But I think it's a miscalculation. That's my point. I'm not saying they won't do it. I'm just saying, like, I'm going to go back to Chris Ray's theory. It seemed like a good idea to put pedophilic books in the library

2:00:35 when you were game planning it. It seemed like a good idea. All right. All right. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. So let me just separate it. So we need to separate the money people, the less people, more money people from the politicians. Politicians will kind of just do what they're guided to do. And yes, I don't think the politicians understand. Not at all. And they have no idea. And that will certainly change political landscape in many places. That's why they're cutting their nose out despite their face. Yeah, I'm with you on that. Yes.

2:01:14 But that's politicians. That's the politicians. I think the agenda is to have this happen. I think the politicians are so stupid they're going to go along with it. Because you know why? And this is completely speculation, completely speculation. But when you have a room full of aunts and uncles with no kids, oh, yeah, let's ruin Christmas. I mean, because that's what it is. I mean, what I'm saying about aunts and uncle, you see this archetype on Christmas commercials. Like, be the best aunt. Be the best uncle. Buy your nieces and nephews exactly what they want. Right. So they don't understand that pressure of buying your kids what they want on Christmas.

2:01:56 Oh, no. Most of these people have no kids. That's their miscalculation. Okay. I ring the bell for that. Mama will drive to five stores to find that one toy that their kids want. And it ain't, and I'm telling you, it's not going to be, oh, well, we'll get it to you on the 27th. That ain't going to work. So layaway. That is not going to work at all. I mean, I've been around Christmas long enough and I've been a father for 18 years now. You want, like I said, you want to make somebody make a mama mad?

2:02:36 Mess up Christmas. Well, it will also maybe, maybe to be, you know, to play the devil's advocate here, maybe it will also be a bit of a wake-up call that we should be considering things that are really important, even for Christmas. And we may need to reset some of our values in that. regard because I understand, and you're right, Mama Bear will go anywhere to buy that one piece of plastic shit from China. Maybe Mama Bear needs to evaluate down the road, not right away, but down the road. It's like, was it really all worth that? Is that really what's going to make my family happy and healthy and prosperous?

2:03:19 Yes. Because it's biological. That's my hope. No, I'm saying you ask the question, is it worth it? Yes. Because it's the biological response that the mother gets from their children being completely happy. It has nothing to do about the plastic crap. We all know it's plastic overpriced crap. We get that. We stay up all night putting this plastic crap together so your kid or our kids can have that one magical day each year. That's the high, man. That's the high. I'm telling you. That is the high. All right, fair enough.

2:04:00 And they're playing with that. I'm telling you, they're okay. I'm just warning. I'm just warning them. Oh, no, I'm with you on that. I'm with you. But I think they're going to go all the way. They're too stupid. I hope they are. And wouldn't the irony be that Christmas saves us all? Woo! Now you're talking. That would be Christmas save Christmas. Christmas saved the world instead of how the world saved Christmas. Ooh, I like it. It kind of fits with the I like this. Maybe, maybe we should write the screenplay. Get this in early. I like it. Jim Carrey, he could do something in there, I'm sure. So now. Have him play Nancy Pelosi. Me beautiful.

2:04:43 Now we got to get to the economic impact of the holidays. They call the day after Thanksgiving Black Friday because that's the day when retail sales swing from red to black. In other words, it's the day when the losses end and the profits start rolling in. But what if Americans decided for one holiday season not to buy a single thing? Exactly how bad would that actually be for the U.S. economy? Well, that probably comes as no surprise that both retail stores and e-commerce vendors would take a big hit. It's projected that a boycott on holiday gifts would amount to more than a half trillion unspent dollars. It would be a particularly blue Christmas for toy companies. Almost half of all toy sales take place during those months.

2:05:28 So it's a big chunk of change. But the American economy is massive. The GDP is the combination of all the cars, houses, washing machines, doctor visits, mortgages, and everything else sold in the U.S. All together, it comes to more than $16.8 trillion. Just a fraction of that is holiday sales. So then why do we make such a big deal about them? Hmm. Okay. Now you understand why. I mean, you knew this already, of course. But for the people listening, that's why Black Friday is Black Friday. And really, when you go, I don't know. Do you do much Christmas shopping? I mean, I don't, I think you've been out of the game for a while.

2:06:09 I think you probably only got to get like one or two gifts. I am an excellent gift giver, and I have changed. I've bettered my ways in my third marriage. Now I have more children to buy gifts for. Now I'm an orderer, so I will order stuff, but I rarely will go to a store. But I'm on time. If you go to the stores, what people don't realize is they're selling you all the crap that wouldn't sell all year. Yes. That's what Black Friday is. That's what Black Friday is. Yeah, of course. It's like, oh, 32-inch TV. You know what I'm saying? $99. It's like, it only has like two buttons. It's been written off already.

2:06:49 It's completely written off merchandise. Yes. And that's why they go from black to me, from red to black. But if you don't have that inventory there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now this is why I'm getting back to the business folks. If you wake up Black, well, the Monday after Black Friday and you're still in the red. Yeah, you're dead. Oh, mission failed. Yeah. Less people, less people group. You had one job. Yeah. You had one job. It sounds nice. It sounds hot to say, oh, yeah, we're willing to take the loss for the longer game. No, no, no. No. Nobody's willing to take the loss for the long game.

2:07:33 It sounds really cool, but these money people, they always want to win. This is why they rigged the game. And I don't think they really accounted for breaking Christmas. They broke Christmas. And it didn't start this week or last week. It is a. total accumulation of not making goals, not making goals, not making ship goals, not making ship goals. Now I can't build this game. I can't build that phone. I can't build this car. I can't less stuff to buy.

2:08:14 Now people are just going to buy what was on the shelves. What would normally linger around for Black Friday? They're buying that crap up now. There's going to be nothing left, man. It's not going to work. It's not going to work. It's going to be horrible. It's going to be beautiful. Well, yeah. Yes. When people wake up. When people wake up. That's what we need. We need that jolt of, yeah, you thought you could just go to the store and buy what you wanted, huh? No. Don't work like that. And the reason why I say this, my wife is a big holiday person. She loves them all. She decorates for them all. We had a Valentine's Day tree.

2:08:55 I just, I'll leave it. Oh, kidoki. Which is kind of cool. You can leave the Christmas tree up for another month. But it's people out here to look for the holiday. You saw when they try to take Christmas out of Christmas. Oh, I know. That became a problem. Right. So you're trying to get rid of Christmas itself? Okay. I'm not harping on a point. I'm just trying to stress the importance. And the this is why y'all shouldn't consult me and uh Adam on these things before y'all go through with them. I could have been told you ruining Christmas is not a good plan. I love that phrase, Ben told you. I love that. There's something about it because I heard it from Hotep.

2:09:37 Hotep Ben Told You. I love that shit. I love the new English. This is great. But we have. We try to tell people all the time, but we get the impact because we're parents. You know, of course. They don't get it. They don't have. And this is why you need, they always talk about diversity. This is why you got to have diversity in the room. You have to have parents in the room. You got to have older people in the room. You just can't have these. And I've saw it coming in the industry. It's like these late 20, early 30-year-olds. They replace all the older guys and ladies with these people because it's cheaper.

2:10:18 I get it. But what you lose in that transaction is perspective. And I think it probably goes all the way up to corporate. I'm sure it goes all the way up to corporate America. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Buy Christmas. I don't even really celebrate Christmas. Oh, yeah? Oh, yeah. Okay. So I guess let's finish up with the economic impact too. So then why do we make such a big deal about them? For one thing, it's because consumer habits during the holidays tell us a lot about how people are doing overall. In 2013, the average consumer spent just north of $50,000 a year on everything from entertainment and food to housing and insurance.

2:11:03 It's estimated that between $800 and $900 of those dollars are spent on holiday gifts. Tracking how much consumers buy during the holidays can give economists insights into other habits, like whether they're saving money for a rainy day or spending more on entertainment and travel. The other big reason we care about holiday sales is because of all the short-term jobs created from November through January. Retail stores increase their workforce by almost 800,000 people, and shipping companies will add more than 100,000 on top of that. They're largely low-age positions, but these jobs signal the strength of the overall economy and they help people afford to buy a few gifts of their own.

2:11:44 So you're going to need more jobs with less workers. Yes. What could go wrong? You can't. Can you really tell me that they consciously gained all of this? I mean, now the people at the top, I'll give you that. Like, break. I agree. There's a contingency to break everything. But I think there's a lot of levels in between there that just are just going along with the plan and don't realize what's going to about to happen here. Now you're telling me I can't work. I actually like. So now I'm on your side here. I like this because I'm all about the 40%. And yeah, that's so the people who are just going along is the 40%.

2:12:24 And Christmas could be a tipping point. They're getting you ready with Thanksgiving already. It's going to be the most expensive Thanksgiving ever. You may not be able to get a turkey. Right. People don't really dig Thanksgiving like that. I mean, it's big, but not, it ain't Christmas. Christmas is the king of all holidays. Yeah, but we got it. This is the warm-up game. This is the pre-season. pre-show. And it's emotional. Yeah. I'm just speaking for myself here. We all get the holiday experience. It is a real thing. You got to break that. Okay. Let me see how that works out for you. So now we have CNN.

2:13:06 They got Buddha Gage. I think Buddha Jedge, or how you want to do it. Buddha Judge. Yeah, the new father, Buddha Judge. He's going to talk about the supply chain and issues with Christmas. So holiday expectations management, as we're looking at. I guess we should say he's the trend. He went from Mayor Pete of a small town in Indiana to transportation secretary. I love her. So holiday expectations management, as we're looking at these supply chain issues, how bad are they going to get for Americans? And I'm talking specifically, you know, leading here into the December holidays where people are relying on getting goods, on getting presents.

2:13:50 Well, I think there's always been two kinds of Christmas shoppers. There's the ones who have all their list completed by Halloween. And then there's people like me who show up at the mall on Christmas Eve. If you're in that latter bucket, obviously there's going to be more challenges. But we are also working right now with the private sector players who own and operate most of U.S. supply chains to find ways to ease the bottlenecks, bottlenecks that are impacting everything from consumer goods to construction goods in this country. This is a largely private sector system and a global one at that. But there are a lot of steps that we can take as an administration, as an honest broker.

2:14:28 That's what the president has directed us to do. And that's part of why we're gathering right here at the White House with leaders from the ports of LA and Long Beach, labor leaders, and the private sector companies that, you know, the FedExes, UPSs, Walmarts, others who play that role on everything that happens between when something arrives on a ship and when it gets to the shelf so you can get it to your home. So you're doing this 90-day sprint. This is what the administration is doing to address these supply chain issues. But when you do the math on that, of course, that takes us into January. So that is after, of course, December, after the holidays. Should Americans be prepared? Should they know they're not going to get their packages? They're not going to get their goods in time for Christmas if they're not doing it right now.

2:15:11 Yeah, that's the question. That's the question, all right. To put this in perspective, I've seen UPS trucks on Christmas Eve night still delivering. Sure. I mean, this has global ramifications. We got kids being woke up to there's no Santa in mass. I know it sounds like I'm like over selling this, but I'm not. Do you realize we lie to our kids and tell them that some fat guy?

2:15:53 Yeah, that's a good perspective. Do you still have any kids who are believers? No. I mean, the older kids always ruin for the younger kids. Oh, yeah. I mean, I was five or six when it got ruined for me. I remember how disappointed my mom was. But that's the logic behind the mandate and jabs as well. Well, if I took it, why don't you have to take it? If I know there's no Santa. Yep. Why you get to think there's Santa? And the older kids usually ruin it for them. But now you're talking about in mass wake up of, Mom, I wrote Santa. And he said he was going to bring me a Lego set. And it's not here. What are you going to say? Oh, Santa will be here on the 27th, baby.

2:16:37 When the container comes in from the North Pole. It don't work like that. And you can hear in her voice, she's like, you know, that's behind. That's in January. These companies live and die off of making that Christmas day shit because really, it doesn't matter after that. I mean, if you don't, I mean, that's for parents, too. If I didn't get it by Christmas, I ain't going to. So, Mo, let's keep it real here for a second. Has Mrs. Facts come to you and said, let me tell you something. This is going to be a real problem. I can't get the shit for these kids these years. And we're going to have to deal with this. Has this conversation already taken place or is she still good?

2:17:19 Mrs. Facts started shopping at the end of September. Okay. You're the supply chain. You ain't going to ruin her Christmas. I'm trying to say that's not good. That is not. And that's how a lot of moms are. That is not an option. Roger, that. Yeah, I copy that. Yeah, I mean, my kids are all much older. So, yeah, so you're right. I don't have. have this experience anymore. And of course, I never had it because everything was always certainly in the 80s or the 90s. You know, growing up, there's everything. You could get anything. You could order everything, not a problem. So I don't really,

2:17:59 I see what you're saying. Because it's a different game, too, because you used to catel kid when I was a kid. I didn't have it. Right. But now it's like, mom, it's on Amazon right here. Yeah. It's already in the basket. I put it in the basket for you. Just got to click checkout. No, this is epic proportions, man. Like I said, I'm not overselling it. And you can hear the conversation they're having on a global level. They understand the importance of Christmas. Psychologically, you heard the bottom line. They look at it and see how people spend around the holidays. How they're going to spend for the next year. Because that's kind of like saying, because this is just going to my dad back for a minute.

2:18:42 If they spend a good year, the kids going to get a little something extra. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Hey, you know, it's been a good year. Let's go ahead and get that what we thought we couldn't get. And then the economic people look at like, hey, Mo is spending a little extra this year. It must be a good year. He must be, you know, making out. Let's make more for next year. But now it's going to be like, whoa, Mo is not spending because he can't. He literally can't spend it. He can't. Yeah. I got to hold all my provisions. And they're going to look at it, like, let's make less. Let's lay off people. Let's downsize. That has a ripple effect. So I guess we can get to the second part of this CNN clip. All right. Back to

2:19:26 Buddha Judge. Well, let me be clear. There is more throughput than there has ever been. In other words, we are processing right now as a country record levels of containers and other goods coming into our ports already. The issue is that there's even more demand than the supply chain can support. Remember, we are relying on supply chains that were built generations ago. It's one of the reasons why this entire year we have been talking about and working on infrastructure and are eager to see Congress act to get this infrastructure deal through. You know, it includes $17 billion for our ports, which is a level of support, federal support for ports that we've never seen before.

2:20:06 Of course, that's a long-term concern. There are short-term steps that we can take too, like expanding the hours at our biggest ports and working with terminal operators, with truckers to get that flow of goods. Think about it. When you see these pictures of those ships waiting at anchor, waiting outside of the ports, that means the ships are already there. So it's everything after that that we have to work to unclog. It's there not being spaces for the ships at the berths. It's the containers being backed up. And that goes through our supply chain, through the rails, through the trucks, again, all the way to the store shelf. Yeah, the ripple effects are wide, and we're learning they're very expensive as well. That guy, the bottleneck is here on our side.

2:20:52 He made a very valid point. If the tankers are lined up in the port, it can't be unloaded. It's not a from China to here problem. Nope. No. You got to get those things unloaded and get them back in the water and going back to be filled back up again. The problem is you don't have workers. Well, that has a number of reasons. And the main bottleneck is California ports and truckers who literally cannot even operate in the state of California because of climate change regulations for their vehicles and for themselves.

2:21:32 And there's a lot of truckers who are just saying, I'm not interested in driving truck anymore because it's just, it's become unmanageable. The government's measuring you, tracking you every single step of the way. Now, they have said the Biden administration, as far as I know, that there will be no mandate for truckers. How convenient. People go from state to state to state. No mandate for them. And now let's go back and revisit what we're talking about about UPS, the Postal Service. You're going to get rid of a bunch of people and then put this kind of pressure on them.

2:22:20 God. Okay, Mo, you bummed me out, man. No, I'm not. Christmas is not coming. There's no Christmas. Christmas will save us. I want to bring up one point. I want to bring up one point before we move on to the next clip. You being a wire watcher. Of course. Yes. What was one of the power? power structures on the wire? Well, shit. What do you mean? How many do you want me to mention? I mean, one that would be pertinent to this conversation. The docks. The what? The docks. The guys on the dock. Oh, yeah. Oh, totally. Oh, yeah. You think this ain't on purpose? Oh, yeah.

2:23:00 Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, it's union, it's shenanigans. It's who's paying who. I know that people who know the way on the docks, they're going in with their own truck, with their own carrier, you know, the chassis. They're going in with ladders and everything. They're paying off the right people. They're getting their own stuff, unloading it, getting the getting containers on their own chassis. They have to do it themselves, but they have to know the way. Oh, yeah. The corruption is complete. Absolutely. That's the more people group. No, you're not going to shut us down. You're not going to, what? No, no, gas engines. No, what? Okay. All right. Let's see how that works out for you. Yeah. And it's, we'll sit on our hands.

2:23:45 Trust me. This is, this is lizard people, pay attention. Come closer. I know you listen. Okay. All right, lizard people. Here you go. Special message. The power is with the people. We run this. Y'all don't understand this. Logistics. That's why I've worked in logistics all my life. I'm saying from packing boxes to warehouse work to all the way up to what I do now in quality and quality control and quality assurance. If we sit on our hands, you don't make your goal. If we want you to make your goal, you make your goal. They don't understand. They don't.

2:24:29 They're banking on this AI and all this. Okay. All right. So to extrapolate what you're saying, are you telling me that there's a concerted effort from the dock workers or whoever organizes the dock workers to make everything apparent by slowing this down? I'm just going off my wire knowledge. As good as any. As far as, hey, if I got that kind of power, if I got that kind of juice and you're trying to leverage me and impact my business, okay, let them pile up. Right. I mean, we have this kind of attitude when I work at fast food. You want to be a jerk to me as a manager?

2:25:10 Let the drive-through back up. I don't care. You're paying me $5.75 an hour. What do I care? I'll walk out here and go across the street and get another job. Right. So that's what they don't understand. They think they got as leverage, but they don't understand. You have more vested in this than I do. And when I speak, I speak for the worker. I speak for the people. Wow, that would be truly beautiful. All right. You don't see it already. It's happening. It's happening before our eyes because he gave a tail there. It's backing up at the port. Also, it's not a production issue.

2:25:51 No, it's not. It's somebody somewhere that says, no, I don't want to do it and I won't do it. And you can't make me do it. It is the California ports. California. Just said. Just to me. Let me Baltimore, Florida. Florida said, bring them here. We don't have a problem. Yeah. So it's just amazing how it's just. And they actually found a way to say, oh, no, that can't. That's not going to work. No, Florida makes no sense. There was some noise about that. I was reading. I'm sure the Boston, California got on the phone with the Boston, Florida. Hey, hey, you're stepping on my toes here. We're trying to work something out. Well, they're trying to work something big out. That's for sure. This is a big one. We got something going here. So I'll wrap this up with

2:26:34 before we go into the donation segment with this is the dumbest idea I ever heard. Max vaccine mandates and unemployment. More companies are now requiring COVID-19 vaccinations. And with that comes employees who will refuse to get the shop. ABC Ten News reporter Mimi O'Calla gives us a look at whether workers who quit or get fired over the mandate can qualify for unemployment benefits. With Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine getting full approval, more private employers are now adding company policies requiring their workers to be fully vaccinated by specific dates unless they have a cleared medical or religious exemption.

2:27:11 When an employee refuses to get vaccinated in response to an employer mandate, what the employee is doing is violating a company rule. Some employees will choose to quit or get fired instead of getting a vaccine. But legal analyst Dan Eaton says violating a company rule could mean no unemployment insurance benefits for those individuals as they search for new jobs. jobs and under those circumstances the violation of a company rule an employee generally is not entitled to unemployment if that's the reason for their dismissal in california there are several eligibility requirements when applying for unemployment benefits the state's employment development department better known as edd says

2:27:54 unemployment claims are determined on a case-by-case basis by looking at the facts specific to an individual claim but benefits are generally available to those who lose work through no fault of their own a spokesperson for edd tells me when someone quits or is fired and then seeks unemployment benefits we conduct a phone interview with both the claimant and employer to determine if the person is eligible for benefits if an applicant quits their job they must prove there was good cause for leaving and that they made all reasonable attempts to keep that job this is bad optics yeah yeah

2:28:33 you're gonna fire people or leave them lingering in some cases around the holidays and then no unemployment either yeah this is this is this is the evil part and we were talking about it earlier this unemployment thing it's like it's the worst it's the lowest of all low even when you want to fire somebody because they're not performing you typically give them two weeks you know you give them a little bit or if they've been working at the company x amount of years it's you know so many week you know a week per year or whatever and that's just an that's just normal business that's expected i've had seven eight hundred employees in my life no no you're talking about severance i know but no

2:29:23 no no no no they're talking about the government issue unemployment that we've paid into like people like myself oh no no i i understand i understand the company but the companies are stopping that well i don't think the companies are stopping it because i have on good knowledge some companies are saying well we won't contest it but as you heard from that clip they're saying well if you got fired for breaking a company rule i.e not taking the jab then you don't even qualify for it so that puts it back on the government not the employer no i i understand i'm just saying from a humane perspective even

2:30:03 when someone screws up i fired people on the spot but i still gave them two weeks severance and then didn't and then didn't get in their way of getting unemployment no not at all no that's what i'm saying they're going even they're not even saying no severance that'd have been bad enough yeah they're saying you know what you won't even get what you paid into how does that work how how does that system work what is the company's role is that purely you got fired therefore you i mean is it is it the the terms of unemployment it can't be because you left obviously can it be if if you were fired because you stole from the company can you still get unemployment then if

2:30:43 you brought it on yourself kind of like you know star or whatever this something like that the company can tell the unemployment office employment office i don't even want to say we say unemployment office but yeah uh they say look um he was a jerk i'm not gonna pay his unemployment and then the unemployment well they contested it you don't get it that's how it works but now they're putting it in trying to shaping in a way like if even if the company says okay yeah he left because of covet well oh he did he oh well he didn't qualify for it right

2:31:22 this is like this is very sick it's not like i said it's bad enough it is bad enough that you fire somebody because of their choice then on top of that you don't give them any savories and and you take away christmas and you take away and you do it all around christmas holiday thanksgiving all this stuff and then you say oh yeah oh oh yeah no no unemployment either no it's obvious we know who's behind this who hates people who cra who hates christmas the most uh satan not being a man of of uh church going man myself seems pretty obvious

2:32:05 this is past scrooge yeah oh no this is past the grinch past everything and the grich west green this is this is be elzabuff man this is no good so but it's it's dumb yeah it's dumb why would you take it there i i don't well again okay okay okay again these the people people doing this are in a state of hypnosis. You have to keep reminding yourself. The stupider it seems, the more likely they are to be all in on it. I didn't make an up. This is what the professors tell me about this mass formation.

2:32:47 Yeah, I'm just saying the benefit. If your goal is to do this quietly, do you know what? And I'm going to say this, and we can slide on into the donation segment. Do you know what this is going to do to the crime rate? Do you know what the optics of this is going to be? Yeah, it's going to be really nice. And you notice Amazon rolled out that new thing. We could put it in your garage. Yeah. Just give us your garage. You know, a lot of jacked open garages. No, that's that's their new thing to keep it from sitting on your front porch. Give us your garage. Oh, right. Yeah. Let us let us in. Let us put it in your garage because we know it's going to be a lot of stealing going on. Yeah. Well, yeah. Hey, hey, rightfully so.

2:33:32 I mean, you stop people from eating. This is what you get. You want chaos? You want anarchy? Okay. I mean, I'm trying to hold civility. You know what we say about the thin pane of glass? Yeah. I'm trying to keep that from breaking. That's all I'm that's all I'm trying to do here because when it headed, it's not good. First, the white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro. And the so-called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of the white man. Then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved.

2:34:08 That's the only way that they'll ever do it. And what's great about this white man and this black man is that right now we are solving things. We are coming down to what's happening. And it has nothing to do with race. It has to do with dads. This is a very important MoFax episode. And I want to make sure that everyone knows that your support is going to probably be even more important than ever. And the value for value system is all that we can rely on in order to maintain this complete free speech. There's not a lot of advertisers that would be happy to touch this conversation or any of the 69 other ones we've had, probably.

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2:43:33 And I would say it's the selective service draft. Nailed it. In September 1940, the Selected Service Act was passed. And for the first time in history, American boys were being drafted during peacetime. You have the confidence and the gratitude and the love of your countrymen. We are all with you in the task which enlists the services of all Americans. The task of keeping the peace in this new world of ours. President Roosevelt announced draft order number one, the first peacetime draft number ever to be drawn.

2:44:18 Drawn by the Secretary of War is serial number 158. You know, when the when the when Bush invaded Iraq the first time, was that Desert Storm, I think? Yes. I remember, I don't know if you had to do this, but I had to register for the selective service. Everybody has to do that when they turn 18. Yeah, I had to re-register for selective service.

2:44:58 Oh, okay. Did you have that? I was only 10. Right. Okay. So I remember that because I think my company might have even been public at that point. And it was just the weirdest thing. I'm like, what? What? I got it. I mean, they could actually take me and put me in the desert. That was a weird thing, man. And it's a weird thing for every man when they turn 18. They're like, here, here's your card. Yeah. Isn't that funny? It's a card. Here's your card. Let's make sure you get that card filled out there. Yeah. So you can do what you're supposed to do and serve your duty.

2:45:36 Which I brought this up because I think that's the closest thing that we can equate this to. And I'm going somewhere with this, but this was the beginning of it. I think 1940 was the first time that they ever started to draft people in peacetime. And what we're going to do is listen to another FDR clip just to give some context to it. But that opened up the door for later drafts. So 24. America's most epical call to arms and preparedness. Millions of men from 21 to 36 line up and sign up throughout the nation.

2:46:17 This is Ruford Rockefeller, son of John Dean Jr. Answer the call to national service. And well, if it isn't Maxi Baer, ready to go into training again. And no kidding, well, not much. The rodeo stars sign up hoping they don't draw the Iron Cavalry. One of the first young men to register is Warren Pershing, son of our famous wartime commander. All races, creeds, and colors line up for national defense. In Chinatown, the rush is just as great and enthusiastic as elsewhere.

2:46:52 Harlem, too, keeps the registrars busy. With the safety of America threatened, all Americans, the humble and the mighty, willingly embrace selective service. From the White House comes a definite promise by the President to those answering their nation's preparedness call. Our present program will train 800,000 800. additional men this coming year and somewhat less than a million men each year thereafter. It is a program, obviously, of defensive preparation and of defensive preparation only. To the 16 million young men who register today,

2:47:36 I say the democracy is your cause. Yeah, it's two reasons why I chose to go this direction with this. One, when there's a real risk or a real threat, American men have no problem stepping up. Agreed. Because we understand what's at stake. Even in those times, this FDR was the first president to let black soldiers fight alongside white soldiers in the modern era. I mean, it happened in the Civil War, I mean, but like not to this extent. He won a lot of cachet because the understanding was for black men, if we go and fight and show we're brave, then that should

2:48:22 gain us more standing when we go back home. It didn't. It was a pipe dream, but yeah. It was a pipe dream, but nevertheless, even people that were oppressed in those times were willing to go fight for this country, even though they had a, for lack of a better word, rocky relationship with the country. Yeah. So, but now it's get jabbed. Why? Because we're, it's a threat. It's an enemy. You know, okay, so why is this not a shared responsibility? Here, you saw, even in this clip, Rockefeller's son was brought out there to even give the optics of anybody could get drafted.

2:49:04 Yeah, we forced Elvis. Elvis was when you know, uh, it's, I think, was a Mickey Manel or well, we know a lot of people. We know who didn't go later, much later. Who's that? Muhammad Ali. Oh, yeah. I mean, oh, yeah. But I'm saying it's a lot of baseball players that gave up everything to go fight. So it was just the understanding that if it's a real enemy, then we'll step up. But now it's, that's when the knots like, oh, you don't want to do, you know, you don't want to do your civic duty to roll up your sleeves and get the jab. They never really, they never really played the patriotic angle that hard. And I think the reason is because of this, this comparison that, you know, saying this is patriotic would be a little too close to Trump words.

2:49:49 Yeah, a little too fresh, a little too fresh to use the P word, you know, so they couldn't really push that. They boxed theirself in, but it also would be nationalism. So it's be a global citizen, be a good global citizen and get jabbed. And we do have this narrative and meme going around from Gates, from the World Health Organization, and mainly from the progressive caucus saying, you know, this is racist. It's unfair. The whole world needs to be vaccinated. And if the whole world isn't vaccinated, guess what? We'll never get rid of COVID and Christmas will never return.

2:50:28 That's the narrative. But if that's the case, then if that's where we're at with it, let's start a vaccine draft. Let's go. If everybody got to get it, let's go. Line up. Everybody got to roll up their sleeves. Now we get to see who goes really about it and who's giving lip service. And everybody's name goes in it. We're going to open it up for the babies, them too. Put the babies in the draft. And let's just the baby's in the womb. I bet you if you floated that idea, it would be totally different. The response. But if we're facing an enemy like no other, let's roll up the sleeves, the little baby sleeves, too, the ones he sleeves, and let's just jab everybody.

2:51:14 That's a sick thought. That way, everybody's carrying the low equally. There's no, well, I'm a entrepreneur, independent, you know, kind of guy, so I don't have to take it. I'm a politician. I don't have to take it. Even John McCain had to go in. Exactly. All right. Even George Bush. Even George Bush. Yeah. No, did he? No, Junior didn't. Junior was? Yeah, Junior was horrible. Okay. Okay. Yeah, Junior was, I don't know if he was drafted, but he was in military service.

2:51:50 Okay, I thought you meant draft. Okay, okay. So that's where we're at with it. So this 1940 thing opened up the 1960s draft for the Vietnam War as captured in clip 25. The draft lottery, a live report on tonight's picking of the birth dates for the draft. And now a page from our Sunday morning albino. December 1st, 1969. 50 years ago today. The night of America's first military draft lottery since 1942. With the war in Vietnam as a backdrop and the futures of some 850,000 young men on the line, the lottery featured a bin containing 366 capsules, one for each possible birthday.

2:52:40 The order in which their birthdays were drawn from that bin would determine the order in which those young men would be drafted. First chosen, first to serve. Congressman Alexander Perny of New York drew the first number. September 14th. Capsule by capsule, date by date. The board filled up. December 6th. Finally concluding with June 8th as number 366. Statisticians soon cried foul, arguing that birth dates near the end of the year had inadvertently been clustered toward the top of the bin, making them more likely to be drawn first.

2:53:23 January 31st. Fair or not, as events played out, only men with birthdays numbered one through 195 were ultimately called to duty. Men with the remaining 171 birthdays were home free. America ended the military draft in 1973 and has relied on voluntary enlistment ever since. But for many of the thousands who watched the drawing with bated breath, memories of that draft lottery telecast remain as vivid as ever. So we need a vax draft.

2:54:04 I'm dead serious. You have the little Pfizer Pfizer capsules. It's perfect. You know what I'm saying? Like in there, you got all the birthdays. And then I'm being facetious. But I hear you. But what I'm saying is, if you want to make it fair, then that way we know today's your birthday. Oh, you got this the that's the that was the date drawn today. You got to go get your jab. Everybody born that day got to get their jab. No, no exceptions. No, it's if we're fighting a true enemy, it's everybody's duty and service to go and get the jab.

2:54:41 So what you're saying is it's of note, it's noteworthy that they chose the manner in which they're doing it because, of course, it's not really an enemy that you can mobilize everybody around. And it's arbitrary. It's totally arbitrary. It's the whole thing. Yeah. So what you're saying, what you're saying is that if your birthday is January 4th. Right, but you're saying that they're just disingenuous because they didn't go this route because this is the clear thing to do. This is the clear. If you're saying we have an enemy, we have to, it's the president's fort. We did it in the 40s. We did it in the 60s.

2:55:25 That way we know, because that's the whole point: everybody's not pulling their weight. We know billionaires are not, don't have their vaccs. We see what happens. Well, no, I mean, what we saw is we saw political people do it. We saw the president, the vice president. You know, we don't know if it was real. We don't know what's in the, if it was getting saline, if the needle's really going in. I mean, that's who knows. But there were really only a couple of politicians. We didn't see the ones we really wanted to see. And we certainly didn't see, you know, I think you're right. If it was a true sincere campaign, you would have had Warren Buffett and Bill Gates and

2:56:08 Bolensky and Fauci and everybody, you know, lined up in the gym. I want their kids. Yeah, their kids. Yeah, yeah. I want whatever birthday it is. Eventually we will line them up in a gym, but that'll be for a different reason. It's jab day. I mean, that's that's what jab day. But that's how we need to do it if this is truly a threat. Yeah, if we're sincere. Agreed. As we saw with this case, and now we're going to go back to Vietnam. And the reason why I brought this up, it is Veterans Day. And I think Vietnam veterans get the short end of the stick.

2:56:47 Oh, my goodness, do they? Because they were brought up, they were in an unpopular war, similar as it is now. The country is in a similar state that it was then. Half the people were on board, half, well, 30%, 30%, and then 40 was in the middle, like, which 30 is winning. winning. And in hindsight, we look at like, oh, that's a war we shouldn't have fought. And we don't have respect for those veterans. The reason why this is important to me, because not only am I dealing with the vax thing, I'm dealing with my father and my uncle both who served in the military doing Vietnam. And they're thrown away. All this plays into the psyche of this. I mean,

2:57:31 this is one of my most revealing shows because I look at them. It's like, oh, you want me to take the L for the country, huh? And if I'm maimed, you're just going to throw me away. Hell no, I'm not taking a shot. That's where I met with it because I saw they did, they stepped up to the duty, whether it was their draft. And when they came back, man, the country was so mind-controlled. They were called baby killers. It was horrible for these vets to come back from Vietnam and the Korean War. The same way it's going to be now with Anti-Vaxxer.

2:58:10 You don't want it. It's going to be this. I hate to say it, but it's going to be the same way. But I need to put some perspective on it because I'm going to make this point right up front. It's a lot of poor people that were drafted just because of all shades and colors and races. But I have to make the point that black men were hit at a higher percentage with the draft. And 26 will explain more about that. And this is Bloods and Nam. This evening, war stories about what it was like to have been young, black, and in Vietnam. A high percentage of the men on the front lines in Vietnam were black. By most accounts, they had the highest casualties.

2:58:54 They say they were fighting two wars: the enemy and discrimination. But they also talk about battlefield brotherhood and lifelong friendships. This is a film about what it was like to fight that war. What it was like to be in Vietnam and to be black. War stories from the bloods who went to Nam. They came from the farms and from the ghettos, from high schools like this one, Thomas Edison in Philadelphia. They didn't have the money to set out the war in college or leave the country. They joined the armed forces. They got drafted. Many of them never came back.

2:59:36 Yeah. They couldn't grow to Canada. They couldn't go to college. You know what I'm saying? They didn't have rich parents to help them dodge. And that's kind of like what I'm saying now with COVID. That says if you got rich parents or whatever, oh, you don't have to take the jab because you don't have to work. Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that how convenient is that? It's like, oh, yeah, we're going to do it by, and you heard the lizard man say that liberty king say that. Well, ours is more around college and jobs in this country, not the stores. Right. So, I mean, we've seen this.

3:00:18 And then, like I said, this is the last mandate we've seen of this epic proportion. You know, I have my whole family, as you know, is military intelligence. And what you were saying about your dad and your uncle, and of course, I know both the stories. It hurts me a lot. It really does. Because my family are also, there's some Vietnam veterans and they're white. And I think they just got, they didn't get everything they should have, but they didn't get so shafted. No way. No way. So I know it's a different time, different era, but it was really sad.

3:00:58 Makes me sad. There's a lot of parallels here. And like I said, I do this show for the parallels to say even then you had to convince, oh, you believe or this or not, or did they go or not? When you came back, yeah, you have services available to you, but convince us you have Agent Orange. Convince, you know what I'm saying, you were exposed to this kind of thing. It's like, dude, I did what you asked me to do. I went and paid the price. And like I said, I want people to understand this because this plays into the psyche of you've told us for the last what, since George Floyd died that this country don't love you. Now roll up my sleeves for it. Yeah.

3:01:43 No, no, I can't do it. And it's a lot of people like me that say, no, I won't be the first on the battle line. I'll hang back. I'll see how this thing goes. But like I said, that's why I juxtaposed it to War. World War II, where black men were ishing to get some. Oh, kill a Nazi, let's go. Let's turn, you know, let's turn up. But now I'm not a little different. And like I said, I want to doing this. Like I said, this is a mandate show, not specific just to COVID mandate.

3:02:21 That's why I frame my statement in that way because I want to show how people in smoky rooms can make decisions that leave people with lasting impact for the rest of their life. And this is something, like I said, I'm living with to this day. And I don't think you hear about World War II, you hear about the modern wars, the desert, you know, those kind of things, Afghanistan. But you don't hear about Vietnam. I mean, they just totally forgot about these people. But with that said, let's go ahead and get into 27.

3:03:01 The obvious answer. Scared. For most of us, and for you, you're 16, 17 years old, and you think death is 60 years away from you. But the minute that somebody tells you something that says something that brings death close to your mind, you get scared. Real scared. And at 19, they gave me orders to go to Vietnam and my stomach dropped out. That's a fear. It's fear. Before you even get there, it's fear. Imagine being on an airplane, getting off, or walking into your mother's oven. Because that's exactly what it was. When I woke up that plane, my skin broke into a white ash, like into a big sweat.

3:03:41 And here I am in this hot climate. They said, I have to stay for 13 months. I was scared, man. I was so scared. It's hard to believe I actually waited on myself. I messed on myself. That first four months, I was terrified. You know, and it's a fright that it's unbelievable when you see people drop. You don't know what death is because most of us never see death for that church when a family member died. But to watch guys drop below you and you're wondering, what am I going to do? Fire a weapon? You know, pragmatic is one thing, but shooting at somebody for real or something else. Yeah. No kidding. So I'm just laying this out to say this is what

3:04:26 not only a race thing because that's a part of it, but this is an age thing as well. 17, 18-year-old kids got to take it to go to college. You see their hearts getting blown out. But take it. You want to work, don't you? You want to survive? I'm just looking at the 17, 18-year-old mo. It's like, well, I had to have a job. I had car insurance, you know what I'm saying? Rent, whatever else. Just trying to, you know, scrape to get by. And it's like, well, you're putting me in a bad position because this is not my battle. Those young kids are like, man, I'll get over COVID. It ain't nothing to me. But it's like, no, you got to get it.

3:05:09 You got to go fight this war. Yeah. A bunch of old men and women making decisions that can impact young people's lives. And it's a parallel there. Hey, yes, and the parallel is all the way up to the top because wars, yeah, sure, it was about communism, but that's not really what wars are about. Wars are for the people who finance them on both sides. So it's sad all around. Sad all around. And so just getting back. And I'm going to say this: like this ain't no pity for the black men in Vietnam because those men came back, troopers.

3:05:50 I mean, you talking about hardened soldiers come out of that. And when they came back with their head, if they had came back with their head on straight, that was a very serious generation of men. And that's why they had to get them out of the house. You talking about black men that knew how to kill efficiently? That's a problem. That's a real problem. Yeah, let's give them dope. Let's give them heroin. Let's give them this. Let's give them black exploitation films. Let's give them, let's let them ride in the theaters from the past show. A lot of black exploitation films were based off of, you know, bloods coming. That's what he was calling bloods. You know what I'm saying? Coming back from Vietnam. Yeah. And

3:06:35 kitchen there. Is that where Bloods and Crips came from? Or Bloods, at least? I believe so. I believe part of it was there. But like I said, I come from a generation where, like I said, my uncle, my dad, you know, they were in Vietnam. A lot of their friends were in Vietnam. They taught you the dap. You see what I'm saying? Like, you know. that's how they knew who was cool and who wasn't. Because it wasn't all roses over there either in Vietnam as far as not just the Vietnamese people, but even their fellow soldiers. And you can see that in the next clip. It's illegal, they say. It's against regulation. They come down.

3:07:19 All right. If you don't take it off before you come in the theater, you don't get in theater. You know, this is the way they do this sign. They said the afro was legal. Am I right around? That's what they said. It was nigga. We can squad the afro. All right. This man, there's a lot of brothers here. This man here's got an afro. This is an afro right here. Somewhat of an afro. It's not big. But they want us to wear skin here. What they call the high tight tight. It's not my culture. Am I right around? They come over here, they get, all right, a Vietnamese girl. She call me a nigga. A nigga, a Vietnamese girl. I know it's not part of their language. Can't nobody tell me that's part of their language.

3:07:58 But I'm going to go over here. The beast, you know that. See, we go over here, we fight. Okay, we fight to defend the water we drink, the land we grow our food on, and our way of culture. We also fight to protect Rockefeller, Rockefeller's foundations. We fight to protect J.P. Kennedy's foundation, all these different kinds of foundations that the black man can't partake of. You understand? And then we go back, we're continuing to harass. It's not necessary. This ain't what we heard. This is what we know. See, we've seen it from the bird's eye point of view. We are the people here now. We see it now. This ain't what we heard. Oh, no, I know y'all haven't been out in the bill. Now, just like you said, these people, these are young people don't know how to, where the word nigga came from or nothing.

3:08:42 You have to learn how to speak it. That's real telling. Very telling. That's telling you that white supremacy is a system. You go over here to fight for your country. First of all, you've been drafted. Right. You go over there to fight to protect the people, and those same people, we call you the N-word. And it is indoctrinated into this system. So now you force shout out to this. Now you help people understand better about Muhammad Ali and his, what do you call it, conscientious objection.

3:09:24 Objection. Yeah. Yeah, conscientious objection to joining the war. So now we have to get into when one person stands up because we have to lay this out. Ali wasn't as popular as he is now. All this is hindsight. I am the greatest. I'm a young man rumble. In 1966, Muhammad Ali, the heavyweight champion of the world, was banned from boxing in the United States after he refused as a conscientious objector to serve in the army.

3:10:04 Boxing is nothing like going to war with machine guns, bazookas, hang grenades, bomber airplanes. My intention is to box to win a clean fight. But in war, the intention is to kill, kill, kill, kill, and continue killing innocent people. As a follower of Elijah Muhammad and a minister of the nation of Islam, he said that the war was against the teachings of his religion. But the 60s were about were a time of creative imagination, the ability to find truth, your own truth, and pursue it.

3:10:51 And that's what Ali seemed to embody. Man, his story needs to be retold, particularly these years. Really does. No, they can't. They can't. See, that's the thing. They can't because that shows you the power of the people. When you have one person stand up, and like I said, Muhammad Ali, he was the, I think he was like the newly champ. He just beat Sonny Liston. I'm going off my mental memory here. But like I said, he wasn't established champ. And the other issue was they wanted to use him like they used

3:11:35 Joe Lewis. Joe Lewis was very military friendly because he understood like the Nazi had to be taken out. But even still, Joe Lewis died broke from the IRS, you know what I'm saying, just greasing. So, I mean, Ali had all this history and understanding, and then he understood what was the feeling on the streets of like you heard in the blood, like the bloods. It's like, hey, nah, I'm not going to, I'm not going to fight for war, but they were given a choice: fight for the war or go to jail, go to prison, and not only go to prison, but then you get like a can't hold certain jobs.

3:12:17 And I mean, a felony is bad enough. No, no, that's that's just the beginning of the problems. Yeah, you tack on the rest of that. So it's, it's the same. I'm not equating that with what we're going through now, but there are similarities in the sense of you want people to take part into something that doesn't affect them. For a lot of things that we really, a lot of people don't believe in, they don't believe that COVID is this deadly killer that is going to kill the young and the old, the healthy and the unhealthy. Right. But that's kind of how communism was sold. So I guess let's go ahead and get into clip number 29.

3:13:01 Near the end of 1967, Ali was convicted of graft evasion by a Kentucky court and stripped of his world title by the Professional Boxing Commission. Champ, the news from Louisville must have been pretty upsetting, was it? I like to say to the fans of mine that this very well could be my last fight. He would not fight again professionally for three years. Ali supported himself by giving speeches at college anti-war rallies. Mohammed Ali! It has been said that I have two alternatives: either go to jail or go to the army.

3:13:44 But I would like to say that there is another alternative, and that alternative, that alternative is justice. And if justice prevails, I will neither go to the army nor will I go to jail. Finally, in 1970, Ali was able to get a boxing license in Georgia, the only state without a boxing commission. The following year, the Supreme Court overturned his conviction for refusing the draft. Muhammad Ali became even more popular, especially with millions of white Americans who had little in common with or sympathy with the Nation of Islam, but found Muhammad Ali engaging, funny, captivating, charismatic, a

3:14:36 leader and spokesperson for their own opposition to Vietnam and their own desire to find meaning in really pursuing your own beliefs regardless of the consequences. Yeah, and that's true. I remember my dad talking about Cassius Clay and how cool it was. And my dad, you know, my dad was a little too old for Vietnam. So he did have to enlist, but he basically stayed in the U.S. or the Army, I think in San Antonio Air Force Base, whatever. But I remember him talking about Cassius Clay, like that guy's badass, you know, like, oh man, he did that.

3:15:13 And yeah, so it was, it was an example for a lot of people, even those who went, the so-called those who took the vaccine of the day. And it was a groundswell of report. I mean, excuse me, a groundswell of support for Ali, one from the quote-unquote community, you know what I'm saying? Because you had black men every day getting, I think it was called 1A, that, you know what I'm saying? You were marked as 1A, you could go be sent off. You had that groundswell, and then you had rich kids at universities and not say rich, but people had some means at universities got behind them with the anti-war effort.

3:15:56 This is why they control the athletes the way they do now. Athletes, colleges, educators, the whole thing, they know where the problems are. And Ali went through a lot of things that doctors are standing up and putting their life on the line to tell what their perceived truth is about COVID. Isn't that interesting? I'm sorry to interrupt. No, no, go ahead. Yeah, the parallel of Muhammad Ali and Kyrie or, you know, I'm just saying the doctors, if you don't hold the narrative, you can't operate in the state. Because boxing to box, you got to have a license. Ooh. Better analogy. Got it. You got to have a license. The box is like, oh, okay.

3:16:40 You want to have me on narrative, huh? Right, right. Let me get that license. So we have our. our Muhammad Ali's now. We have doctors that's standing up. Yeah, we get to hear from them. McCullough, Malone, Corey. Yeah, they're all out there. You got a thing to put your livelihood on the line for what? We should just call these super doctors, call them all Mohammed. So, Mohammed Malone, Mohamed Corey. That's going to get them on another. But yeah, we have heroes right in front of us. That's the thing about it. Now it takes somebody like a big platform, but that's why

3:17:22 you don't let them even get the light of day and be seen. Because even then, there was some shenanigans going on how we got to the actual war in Vietnam. On the morning of August 4th, 1964, I began my first full-time employment in the Pentagon working under Secretary of Defense Robert McNamara. My very first day on the job, all hell broke loose. A courier came running in with a flash cable saying that American warships were under attack in the Tonkin Gulf off the coast of North Vietnam.

3:18:03 And I was getting these because my boss was already down the hall with McNamara picking targets to retaliate against against North Vietnam. Minute after minute, more cables came in. Three torpedoes have been fired, seven we are taking evasive action. At about 1:30 our time comes new cable from the Commodore of the two ships. Hold everything in effect. All previous reports of torpedoes are in question. Renewed hostile actions against United States ships on the high seas in the Gulf of Tonkin have today required me to order the military forces of the United States to take action in reply.

3:18:47 Within days, it was clearer and clearer that there had been no attack. Yeah, yep, this is a favorite. Me and Alex Jones, we love using this as our example of a false flag. I'm going to lean on you on this one as far as I mean, I know the story as far as Gulf of Tonkin, but you want to kind of fill in some gaps or maybe parallels of what's going on now? Well, you want to do you have a second one to this? Let's play that first and I'll fill in whatever's missing because this seems pretty clear. All right. Within days, it was clearer and clearer that there had been no attack. I shall immediately request the Congress to pass a resolution.

3:19:30 President Johnson was determined to prevent a communist victory in South Vietnam. He twisted the facts of the Tonkin Gulf incident to persuade Congress to give him unlimited authority to use military force. He then launched a war that would last another 11 years. By a number of hostile missiles, Senator Fulbright, you moved the Tonkin Resolution through the Senate. Did you know anything about this? I accepted the story given to us by the President and Mr. McNamara and Mr. Rusk, and I believe General Wheeler. I had no reason at that time and under those circumstances to doubt the validity, the truthfulness of this whole operation.

3:20:12 We still see no wider war. No wider war? As I found out day by day in the Pentagon, that was our highest priority, preparing a wider war, which we expected to take place immediately after the election. It's a war that I think ought to be fought by the boys of Asia to help protect their own land. And for that reason, I haven't chosen to enlarge the war. And that was a conscious lie. We all knew that inside the government, and not one of us told the press or the public or the electorate during that election. It was a well-kept secret by thousands and thousands of people, including me.

3:20:56 Yep, including people I know, probably. This was just a bit before I was born, about a month. The USS Maddox, which was on patrol in the region, and they claimed that three North Vietnamese torpedo boats attacked them with torpedoes, machine gun fire, and the whole thing turned out to be, I think there was like one bullet hole they found much later. And then the National Security Agency, NSA, yes, our friends, they also had false signal intelligence about a second attack in this Gulf of Tonkin.

3:21:37 And what it all resulted in was the Gulf. Gulf of Tonkin resolution. So this was all the fog. By the way, some of you who are old enough to remember the name Robert McNamara, he was the Secretary of Defense. And these are guys that were all related to the Bushes and all the way up the line, much later. And from this came the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which essentially gave the authority to attack anything that we didn't like in Southeast Asia that smelled of communism. And that was all we needed. It was like the Patriot Act of the day.

3:22:18 And I was going to go there next. Now, hearing this, seeing 9-11 happen, reading about some of the happenings around Pearl Harbor, I think the Lusitania was another kind of maybe false flag. Oh, the Lusitania. Yes, of course. So I'm just saying, like, so when you come to me, I'm like, oh, your government would never lie to you. It would never have people. That's where we had common ground from day one, Moe. We both agree on the government lying to us and lizard people.

3:22:56 This would be our general consensus. But the thing is, it's okay. If you want to lie to me and it doesn't affect me, fine. I mean, I'm just speaking from the normal, just everyday person. It's like that really doesn't bother. It does affect you, but you don't feel the effect. But when you have a lie and then it impacts me directly, I'm going to start looking into things. I'm sure there was troopers back then that were looking around, like, hey, this Gulf of Tonka things kind of stinks. And they were called crazy. They were called misinformed. Well, are you doing your own research? They were already called conspiracy theorists at that point. This was Lyndon B. Johnson.

3:23:40 This is right after Kennedy. And it's an established fact that the CIA launched the term conspiracy theory in order to thwart any citizen journalism into the JFK killing. So this was fresh. This conspiracy theorist thing was just getting started. And you could use it to great advantage. And then you wonder why people are hesitant to believe. I don't. Not me. Not me. This is the question. This is the question I asked myself. If fill in the blank didn't happen, how would life be different?

3:24:23 Well, hold on. Let me back up before you do that. So I was talking to Dvorak at some point during the show, and I can't remember exactly what the topic was, but I said, you know, I did my, I did my typical, well, my one black friend says, okay. But what he said, and I think you remember this, he said, yeah, but Mo's not like, he's not a regular black guy. And so, because, you know, you're, you're different. You're conspiring. You'd look into conspiracies. It's my feeling, having known, you know, we've been talking for what, two years now almost? It's my feeling that there's a much larger contingent of conspiracy thinking or aware people amongst black Americans than not.

3:25:08 Did you hear the blood in NAM say, we fight for Rockefeller and JP Kennedy? And you know, it was crazy. In 1980, let's see, Christina was born. So it was, no, then it was 90, maybe 91. We went to Jamaica to Mo Bay. And on the beach was a young guy named David, Jamaican. And he would, you know, there was barely internet. And so he would bring me one of those like photocopied newspaper. Oh, here's the New York Times, like three pages photocopied. So you could kind of read the paper. And then the paper would come later. And as we were getting to talking, he said, oh, no, I read this. I read the paper.

3:25:53 This is why I love working the beach. I read the paper every single day. And he worked there for, you know, he was a young guy, already worked there for eight or nine years. And he said, you know, the world is, and I'd never heard this before this time, Mo. I was not into this. I was doing other things. I was an MTV guy. He's like, oh, man, don't you know about the Trilateral Commission and the Bilderberg group? And I'd never heard of these things before. Oh, yes, it's how the world is. And this was a kid on the beach in Jamaica. And I've had to think of David many, many times. I said, oh, my God. You know, there's so many people have their eyes and ears open that we're just not aware. And one of the biggest vehicles for quote-unquote conspiracy theories has been hip-hop.

3:26:35 Yes. Risen from Wu-Tang was been talking about deadly vaccines. So, I mean, none of this catches us flat-footed. And it's like I say, I am not normal. Just to say that I'm not the normal person for anybody. But yeah, it's just that all you have to do is not believe. This goes back to what you were saying. Let me back up a little bit. You just said it yourself. These people, the 40%, they believe whatever's put in front of them, the news, the headlines. Will you stop looking and believing the headlines and just like actually sit back and pay attention to what's going on, what's being said?

3:27:19 You'd be like, yeah, that's bullshit. Excuse my language. You know what I'm saying? Like, Jesse Smellett. Oh, that's a good example. He got attacked by two, three white guys in Chicago in 30 degree below weather. Huh? No, but I mean, like, remember, it turned out to be black guys. That was even funnier. Yeah, I'm just saying, though, but I'm just going to tell you how I process that. I saw on the news earlier that morning. Here's how you process it. Bullshit. Right. It was like the Chicago, it's so cold that they had to set the train rails on fire. And I'm like, hold on. He went out for Subway in that kind of weather and got attacked in the MAGA country.

3:28:04 It's like, I didn't have to. I just put the two and two together. It's like, I don't need to read any reports. That's bull crap. Yeah. And Chicago, not so much MAGA country. And I'm just saying, but we're not going out for Subway if we got to light the rails on fire. That's just not happening. I'm calling it Uber Eats. No, come on. Knock it off. That smells. But yeah, I mean, so, yeah, we are conspiratorial by survival. Yes. Survivalists. Yes. Conspiracy survivalists. So with that said, let's go ahead and thank some more producers with new money. Yes, and we'll talk about what new money is. I like brand new money. I just, I don't want any money around me. It's not.

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3:33:37 You only want to be treated fair. I was going to post something on one of my social media pages, but I decided to do it the old school way and read it out to you because you're a great person, great father, great athlete. And you believe what you believe. America is the land of the free. Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and supposedly freedom to choose. Never be controlled by money. I respect you for having some integrity and being your own man. A free mind makes his own choices, and the slave mind follows the crowd. Stand for something or fall for anything. One man can lead a revolution to stand up and fight for what's right.

3:34:18 One choice, one word, one action can change the world. It's crazy how people hate you for being a leader. I hope your actions encourage many others to stand up and say enough is enough. Respect to you, Kyrie. And power to the people. Yeah, I played this on No Agenda too. It's amazing. I heard like zero cancel noise about Floyd Mayweather. No one said anything about this because he got his own money. He's got FU money. I mean, like, what I mean, own money, like he goes, fights, gets paid.

3:34:57 There's no Nike cutting him a check. There's no Lee cutting him a check. He has direct revenue generating power, which is what we're trying to do here. As far as we don't have to kiss up to networks or whatever else to say, oh, are they going to look over their shoulder? The Boulevard is going to ring because I said this and I said that. So, yeah, that's why you don't hear anything about him. But he brought up Kyrie Irving and saying, if one person stands up, you know, it can be a problem for the establishment. And this is why I was watching LeBron so closely.

3:35:38 And I don't think we talked about this, but with LeBron, LeBron wanted to do this so bad. So bad. Because he's never going to be Michael Jordan. He's never going to be the greatest basketball player ever. He tried to be Muhammad Ali with the social justice stances, but they were very milquetoast. If he would have took that shot, if he would not have took the shot and took the chance of saying, you know what? I'm going to do like Kyrie did and said, no, I'm not going to take it. I don't think it's right to force people to take it. You can take it if you want to. He could have easily been Muhammad Ali.

3:36:19 Easily. So what was his problem? He's just pussy, too controlled. Oh, man. no. I mean, that kind of thing, that'll get you Arkansas. I mean, the user reference, that'll get you up out of here. Don't get, don't, no, don't get it twisted. I mean, LeBron got a Boulevard too that can be wrong. And I think it's going right now. And we saw this kind of thing with when he was doing that. It was LeBron pushes a coach. LeBron does this. I document it.

3:36:57 So if you go to the YouTube channel, I did lives and things watching him because I knew it was like, that's what took him so long to say he was going to take it. He was trying to see which way the wind was going to blow, but he had to succumb to the powers that be. And I'm going to say this: Kyrie Irving, he's always been the anti-LeBron. And this is a natural thing for him to do. I mean, he marches to a beat of his own drums. Same thing with Aaron Rodgers. They're seen as

3:37:36 thinkers in a bad way. You think too much. You're doing too much thinking, Kyrie. And you can hear this in the next clip: how Jory Reed critiques him for his anti-vax stance. The new anti-vax poster child, Brooklyn Nets guard Kyrie Irving, went on Instagram live on Wednesday to ramble, I mean, speak for the first time since his team told him he was barred from playing until he got the shot. You think I really want to lose money? You think I really want to give up on my dream to go after a championship in order to be on a team? I have to be vaccinated. I chose to be unvaccinated, and that was my choice. This is not a political thing here.

3:38:18 It's not about the NBA. It's not about any organization. It's really about my life and what I'm choosing to do. Irving went on to say more, a lot more, telling fans that he is taking a stance against those who have lost their jobs over vaccine mandates. But then a new development emerged. Irving's anti-vax tirade was somehow compared to wait for it. Oh, just you wait. To the activism of the greatest of all time, Muhammad Ali. With Nick's alum, Stefan Marbury, saying, Ali would be proud. Okay, okay, who's triggered right now? Because I am for sure all the way triggered. Trigger Knicks fan right here. Now, I've probably mentioned this before on this show, but Muhammad Ali is like literally my personal hero, my favorite athlete of all time.

3:38:59 I was obsessed with him in boxing growing up, only to become further captivated by who he was outside the ring, an international icon and lifelong fighter for human rights and equality, which is why I am going to do my very best to purge this comparison from the internet's for good. Kyrie Irving is not the modern-day Muhammad Ali. First of all, she has zero standing to say this. Second of all, we might rival her audience in numbers and listeners. It's close. I mean, what? This is okay. Was anyone else talking this nonsense or just Joy Reed? No. The whole media, sports media, industrial conflict.

3:39:43 I don't watch that, of course, but oh my goodness. The questions were: why is he doing this? We made it very clear. He said, I'm doing this for standing up for people just not giving a choice. It's not about the vaccine. It's not about, you know what I'm saying? No, it's purely about choice for him. It's the point of people shouldn't lose their jobs because they choose one way or the other. That's it. And they tried to make him the bad guy. He didn't, Kyrie haven't really said much at all. And what I'm saying about is the way he could be the Ali is nothing that Kyrie's doing.

3:40:23 Because I don't think Muhammad Ali even publicized what he was doing. It's people gravitated towards him and say, I believe in what you're not doing. Let me support you. You see what I'm saying? That was the college kids. That was the people in the neighborhood. It's like, man, let's go, Ali. You know what I'm saying? Let's go. So that's the thing is, like I said, it's just funny that she can get up here and like she, like you heard her say, it's his tirade. Kyrie, Kyrie couldn't go on a titan. He's very calm and like soft-spoken.

3:41:06 But they made him, they made him the bad guy. And it's for a reason. Because of some of the stances he had, he's easily marginalized. And you're going to hear more of that in 37. He's a famous person using his. his famous person platform to put others at risk of a deadly airborne disease that has wreaked havoc on the human race and disproportionately on people who look like Kyrie Irving. Muhammad Ali, on the other hand, took a political stance as a conscientious objector to the Vietnam War, saying that he refused to go to war and shoot my brother or some darker people or some poor, hungry people in the mud for big, powerful America.

3:41:45 Ali risked going to prison because of his stance. Prison. Now, here's the other thing: Muhammad Ali supported vaccines, even doing a PSA, encouraging them for New Yorkers in 1978. The law says if your kids don't have their shots for dangerous diseases like mumps, measles, and polio, they aren't getting into school. The law also says they must go to school. So you have no choice. Get your kids their shots. So, no, no, Kyrie Irving is the literal opposite of Muhammad Ali. He is a person who once said the world is flat and who is now being used

3:42:24 for the alt-right and MAGA army, like Ted Cruz, praising him for his incredible courage, but who called Colin Kaepernick a rich, spoiled athlete for taking a knee against police killing people who look like Kyrie Irving. Hey, Professional Karen, Laura Ingraham, should Kyrie Irving shut up and dribble or not? Being a contrarian does not make you an intellectual, it does not make you a hero. It most certainly does not make you anything near the greatest. In fact, it makes you and those using you as an anti-vax celebrity pawn the absolute worst. Okay, this is probably the most crazy clip I've heard from Joy Reed.

3:43:01 I mean, I've heard a lot. It's a close tie with her and Nikki, but go ahead. This is really, yeah, yeah, but I mean, you're you're bringing in Muhammad Ali, universally loved black and white and red and yellow worldwide. Yes, it's very, very, very risky strategy. This Joy Reed needs to be taken to court. You know what I'm saying? Well, here's the thing: Joy is holding, as you made reference to her ratings, and this is where people like her are very dangerous. When they're in, and it's the oh, it's the irony and the paradox of it. And hopes to keep her job. This is what she does. Oh, yeah.

3:43:47 You see it now. And the hopes to keep her job that she loves, she's willing to go out and do hit pieces like this. I think that she's so bad that she probably is all in on this. She, and she, she may have. Look, I, what I do know about Joy Reed, because I see her almost every day, she's always changing her look. Yeah. And, but I mean, like, severely. She got the different wig on. She's doing, you know, she one day she's Caribbean.

3:44:25 Next day, she's African-American. Then she's just African. And then she's something like I don't even recognize, like, like a sponge, like a really weird, weird vibe she's got going on. And so she has no identity, no identity. So she's an identity-less person. And she goes through life, I think, unhappy. She's the female Don Lemon. Yes. Yes. And those people are dangerous. When you don't have talent to hold you where you're at. Yeah, I agree with that. Then you push agenda. And that's the thing about it. And like I said, that's the thing about Kyrie is this. He said, I'm okay.

3:45:09 He didn't sign up for this. It's New York that says he can't play. Not the NBA. That's right. Not his employer. New York says you can't play. So he said, okay, I just want to play home games. So then the Nets, Brooklyn Nets, say, well, you know what? If you only don't want to play home games, how about you don't play at all? Now, this is the dumbest thing I ever heard because Kyrie's kind of important to the team, isn't he? You would think so. I mean, he's one maybe top 10, 15 basketball players in the NBA right now. Even higher. I mean, it depends on what you value in the list. But the thing was, the NBA was known for sitting players for rest.

3:45:50 You play tonight, you don't play tomorrow night. You play tonight. And LeBron is one popularized it. But I mean, who really ran with it was the Spurs. They were known. Like, I mean, the NBA had to even get on them, like, hey, we got ad dollars here. You can't just sit your players like that. So this is baked into the NBA of sitting out every other night or what they call, they call it rest or arresting your players. players. So, I mean, because you got 82 games in an NBA season, they're not important. Like, to sit out some. But it's like, we're going to make you choose, oh, you don't want to play. Okay, we're going to not let you play at all. So, it's the NBA that's ramping this up, and the Nets that's ramping this up.

3:46:34 And then they use their propaganda machine to smear him. But it didn't stop there. Hold on, hold on. I got a question when it comes to this. Okay, so resisting, you know, there's going to be we are all about resisting this mandate. When it comes to basketball and football, do you see fans, people who really love the game, such as you do, really like absolutely turning it off and shunning it and letting that be known that you're just not going to participate in their games? Or is it the lure still too big that you still got to be a part of it?

3:47:14 Here's the problem. And I'm speaking from my personal experience. People are not really into sports. People are into the communal aspect of sports. Like I said, that did sports keeps me tied in with my 11 other guys in my fantasy league that we have something that we could like, you know, laugh and joke about. It's not sitting down and watching the game. That's not the point. So, and then sports gambling is another big thing, which while people can't really turn away because it's a lot of money being passed around. But I'll say this.

3:48:00 The leagues have been very smart in picking their targets. Because you know this, Aaron Rod is not the only unvaccinated person in the NFL. Right. Kyrie Irving's not the only unvaccinated person. It's let's get these quirky kind of anti-hero kind of people and we'll beat up on them. So that's why you don't see kind of fans walking away from it. Okay. Which is weird. I mean, it's once again, I'll say this: it's not in the NBA that's causing Kyrie not to play. It's New York that's putting the pressure on him. Right. It's putting the pressure on the team. The Premium team puts the pressure on him.

3:48:45 So that's how it works. But at what point does one of these super fans just go ape shit and go postal themselves? It's a possibility. It's a real possibility. But I would think this, the Jersey sales will tell the tale. Is Kyrie Irving Jersey selling more than the average? I got it. Is Aaron Rodgers' jersey selling more than average? I mean, you saw Kyle Coppinet. He didn't even play football. He had won the number one selling jersey. So people are going to support. And that's why I said he could easily become Muhammad Ali, not in the statute. And I hope people understand what I'm saying. It's that people weaponize celebrities for their cause. Right. And I think that that is waning.

3:49:29 I think the influence of celebrities is completely disappearing. It's disappearing along with the ratings. A lot of them in the lockdowns and we're seeing them their true selves. Heroes have come out of that. People that we're like, holy crap, this man or woman is fantastic. But the majority is like, wow, you're a real dick. I always knew it, but now I see it. So it's changing. Yeah, unless it's something political that we like. And that's the thing. That's how we're picking out celebrities now. Like, what side are you on? Okay, yeah, you like, you like, you like that? Okay, I like you. Right. And then you turn away. Like, look at Nikki. I mean, they had Fox News. Yeah, that was great. They're ripping Nikki Minaj. So that lets you know it's bigger than what you bring to the table.

3:50:13 It's about what's your message. And that's why Kyrie is very dangerous in this situation because, like I said, Kyrie may not be a big name at home. He is, but not like on a LeBron J stature. But when you talk about going to China, basketball is their religion over there. Yeah, yeah. That's why they had to keep saying LeBron under wrap. So this next clip I found very disheartening because Kyrie Irving was attacked. I use that word, you know what I'm saying, purposely, but attacked by Rolling Stones and Kareem Adu Jabbar. Rolling Stone Magazine and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar sold out.

3:50:58 Oh boy. They're flax for the establishment now fighting to uphold vaccine conscription. Kyrie Irving is Muhammad Ali, a conscientious. objector, resisting an unjust culture war. Over the weekend, Rolling Stone published a long-winded hit piece on Irving and other NBA players who are reluctant to take the experimental COVID vaccines. According to Rolling Stone, anti-vax NBA players are standing in the way of the league imposing a vaccine mandate. This is a bad look for a league that prides itself on being left of Karl Marx.

3:51:40 Irving is seen as the leader of the anti-vaxxers who are pushing around the NBA, according to the writer Matt Sullivan. The article painted Irving as a nutjob. It criticized him for liking posts from an Instagram account that previously posted messages alleging conspiracy theories against black people. The magazine trotted out 74-year-old Abdul Jabbar, a 1960s radical who supported Ali, to reprise the role of David Susskin, the 1960s television host, who shredded Ali for refusing induction into the military.

3:52:19 Wow. Same quote, this is from Abdul Jabbar. The NBA should insist that all players and staff are vaccinated or remove them from their team. That's Lou Al Sellout talking to Rolling Stone. Yo, man, this is going to get some people angry if they keep this up. And that's why I say he could become, you know, the target of all this attacks. Well, yeah. He can become the victim, I mean, in a good way, as far as, you know, where they're picking on Kyrie.

3:53:02 Why are they picking on Kyrie? All he said was he didn't want to play, take the jab, and he's doing it to support the worker. I mean, this is the, we always talk about the celebrities and athletes standing up for the little guy. Now, like I said, this is Kyrie. He could be doing it for his own reasons. I don't, I'm not that naive, but in this information world that we're in, we'll take everything we can get. Yeah. That's what they don't understand about it. It's like, well, Nikki, we rolled her as far as we could, and now we got Kyrie. And we'll ride him as far as we can. And that's, it sounds cold and calculating, but that's how the information world works. It's like, as long as we can work together to our common cause, we will. You tap out. And we saw this, like I said, with Trump.

3:53:46 When Trump started saying vaccines, you saw his people say, boo, start boom. No, he hurried up and shane's it quick. He's like, well, you know what? That's power. That's power of the people. That's real power from the groups of people. And ultimately, people have the power. And the sooner they realize it, the better. That's why they don't want us to wake up. And that's why they attack Kyrie Irving because he can ignite a fire. And, you know, even what we're doing here, we're taking on the big guys and we're consuming people's hours of people's listening time. They can't get that back.

3:54:29 That's right. That's where our real power is. They're tuning in and they're tuning out wherever they were used to replace, whatever they replaced us, what they listened with here with. So Cremal Dude Jabbar. So I don't know if you've ever seen this picture or not. It was called the Civil Rights Summit. And when Ali came out, it was like all the big-time black athletes were around him. And they were like, they painted it as, oh, we're here to support Ali. Have you ever seen that picture before? I'm going to go look for it right now. You say Ali Summit. But with that said, it was a big PR stunt. And don't take my word for it. Bob Abram, a famed boxer promoter, is telling the story.

3:55:13 So you did promote a number of Ali fights and you were 25 of them. Wow. And I read that when Ali refused induction and he took the 43 money, he accepted his ban, that you were able to pull a few strings and you got it to where through the Lyndon Johnson administration, if he had done some appearance work that he could have continued to fight. This is a quote. One of my dear, dear friends is Jim Brown. And Jim was the guy who introduced me to Ali and got me into the business. So now when Ali takes the position that he's not going to go into the service, I had a partner in my law firm who was the treasurer of the Democratic Party.

3:55:53 And we worked out a deal with Lyndon Johnson. Ali, you don't have to put a uniform on, just do some exhibitions at military bases and continue your professional career. I go to Jim, and this was the time when we were, you know, working hard to get black people into business, particularly athletes. So that the idea I had with Jim Brown, we had in those days, we had closed-circuit exhibitors having regions of the country, and it was very lucrative. And football players were making like $10,000 a season. So I said, Jim, get all the athletes together, the black athletes, let them talk to Ali and convince him to take this deal.

3:56:41 And I will divide up the country and make these guys my regional exhibitors. I, of course, did not know about this. I'm looking at the picture right now. We got Russell, Ali, Brown, and Abdul Jabbar right in the front. So these are the people, like I said, this is people that allegedly supported Ali. And you heard Ali could have easily took a deal with the government and did the charade of, you know, going around. He didn't have to put the uniform on, just go to some exhibitions. You know, kind of like USO kind of stuff. Yeah. Like the Harlem Globetrotters. Yeah, and he'd have been cool, but he didn't take it.

3:57:23 He didn't do it. Yeah. And it's more to the story than you know what this story looks like. I mean, or this picture, you just look at it in the context. It's like, it looks like Last Supper almost. It does have that vibe to it. It does. It sure does. Yeah. Well, who's Judas? 40. So Jim got Willie Davis. There weren't that many black guys in the NFL then, but all of them that were there, the good ones he brought to that meeting. Bill Russell came. Lou Alcinder was

3:58:04 a college student. He came. And the idea, Bobby Mitchell, I remember, the idea was to convince Ali to take the deal. Now, Bill Russell, when he reported, he reported accurately that that was the purpose of the meeting. And they started talking to Ali, and then Ali got up and talked for two hours and convinced them that what he was doing was correct, not going in and so forth. And they all agreed to back him. Now they tell the story that they all met to talk Ali, to tell him that they were supporting him, which is not, which is not true.

3:58:50 Anyway, so he believes so strongly in his anti-Vietnam stance, he didn't even want to appear for the military to continue fighting. It was a sweetheart deal. It was the best deal that the government could work out to save face. Everybody wanted to save faith. And look at what this guy did. He said no to that deal. It meant that he would be indicted and convicted for draft evasion. So he faced five years in prison. His licenses were taken away. So people say, were you ever worried that he never could fight again?

3:59:32 Hell no. I was worried that the guy would go to jail. Wow. I never knew any of this. This is great. See how the narrative? See, and that was that was that was actually the Elvis deal, I think, that they offered him, right? Right, right. Just go around, do USO work. You know, we say face, you say face. Ali said no. And these people try to come in and convince him, and he ended up convincing them no. But in hindsight, they tell the story, oh, we were there to support Ali. Yeah, who, though? Who tells the story that way? Everybody but Bill Russell. I was going to say, I was going to say Russell was the guy, right?

4:00:11 And even that picture, Russell looks like this is a bunch. Look at these Jamo. You can tell he's got it in his face, man. He's got it right there. Bill Russell was a very serious man, very serious living in Boston at the time. But I say all that to say everybody should be given a choice. I'm making mine. This is where I draw the line to sand. Hopefully it works out. Hopefully courts work out. But if not, I'll wrap by saying this. I believe in myself, my talents, and my ability and God more than I believe in whatever they can do by taking the job away from me.

4:00:55 And as your partner in this venture, I got your back. And I know the producers do too. And I'll say to them, everybody has a talent or two or three. Yeah. So put it to use and use it with us. Let's make it happen. All right. Damn, Mo. Who knows what'll happen in two weeks? We'll have another show. We'll have a lost tape. Now, next Wednesday, we'll see what happens. It's exciting. I personally see all things that are taking place right now as a fantastic time to be alive and to be a podcaster to help make things better.

4:01:38 I would totally agree with you. And with that said, as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. And we return with the lost tapes on YouTube. Go to MoFax.com for more on that. That'll be next week. And in two weeks, we'll be back with another MoFax with Adam Curry. We won't do a big turn.

4:02:29 I said the kids gonna do what they wanna do. When it get hot out, hope they make it through summer school. Cause it get cold-blooded with no 5-0 coming. And when they come around, don't nobody know nothing. It don't feel safe. Cold K's love lost. Where the shorties got guns, call it the city of God. And name, tell how to aim. Watch a frame get killed right there in front of your face. So how the fuck would you feel? And so I pop pain pills until I feel better. And I'm hustling on, we got that phone bill. And that got me a job, but no, it won't cut it. So I step on that work because the dope will. All we know is now, ladies, the sky's great. It's here in concrete. Where the kids at? Let me go speak to him. But if you never seen any members of the stars, how you ever supposed to know that's the thing you should reach for?

4:03:13 I'm saying though. I wish I could live forever. I wish I could live forever. I wish I could live forever. I wish I could live forever. We won't do what they tell us. We'll pop it just to feel better. Times get hard, we try to keep harder. If we die, we gone forever. We won't do what they tell us. Bill Poppin' just to feel better. Times get hard, they try to be hard. If we die, we gone forever. We never die, that's why my motto's still alive. Like a Leo spirit, I told you one in a million times.

4:03:53 This is a dream, the one I used to fantasize. So I'm looking at me from heaven through my grandma's eyes. And I know that she be proud, so you hear me screaming loud. I'm on the billboard just so you can see me now. If she's in the clouds, why pull my drink on the ground? So I'll pull it up for you. You want him or a crown? Shot down, ambulances don't come around. With shorty's brains blown out, you want me to dumb it down. That's why we get high roll trees in backwoods. It's hard to know you can when you raised off can cuz. All we know is USDA checks and save a lot. Never had money, so we had to save a lot. But how you gonna tell the kids they capable to rewrite pop culture when all they ever had was pills to pop? I wish I could live forever. I wish I could live forever.

4:04:38 I wish I could live forever. I wish I could live forever. I wish I could live forever. I wish I could live forever. I wish I could live forever. I pray I could love. I wish I could live forever. I wish I could live forever. I wish I could live forever. I wish I could live forever.