Episode 48 · Wednesday, 22 July 2026

Episode 48: SUMMER REWIND - Why your stories aren't landing (and the simple fix)

Master the five-word framework that transformed a desperate rent payment for Brian Chesky into the global powerhouse known as Airbnb.

By The Business of Stories | 26m listen | 9 chapters
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The Business of Stories · No. 48

About this episode

Airbnb founders Brian Chesky and Joe Jebbia launched their billion-dollar enterprise from a desperate need to pay rent during a 2007 design conference. This summer series installment features Susan Paton and guest Raluca Irimescu breaking down why most brand narratives fail to land with audiences. By examining the scrappy origins of Air Bed & Breakfast, the episode illustrates how emotional stakes and clear conflict drive business growth.

Joseph Campbell popularized the Hero’s Journey through iconic films like Star Wars and The Wizard of Oz, but modern marketing requires a more compressed approach. Raluca Irimescu from The Story Point argues that business owners often lose engagement by including too many scenes and unnecessary details. The framework presented here simplifies complex arcs into five essential pillars: identifying the hero’s desire, introducing the specific obstacle, detailing the action taken, and revealing the final transformation. This method applies to diverse figures ranging from Dorothy in Oz to Bridget Jones, ensuring that every marketing message remains focused and memorable.

Susan Paton challenges listeners to strip away the waffle by using a five-word narrative exercise to audit their current brand messaging. The conversation highlights how vulnerability in the So phase of a story builds immediate trust with potential clients. This session serves as a tactical guide for entrepreneurs looking to turn their personal history into a high-impact professional asset.


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The Business of Stories, Summer Revisit Series

Host Susan Paton introduces a summer series revisiting six high-impact episodes of The Business of Stories. This specific episode focuses on a storytelling framework designed to provide structure, remove unnecessary "waffle," and ensure audience connection. The goal is to help business owners keep their messaging focused and memorable.

susan paton· the business of stories· podcast· storytelling framework· business owners

00:54 You're listening to The Business of Stories with Susan Paton, showing you how to share stories that do the selling in your business so you don't have too. This summer, instead of bringing you brand new episodes I'm taking the opportunity to revisit six of the episodes that have resonated the most sparked the biggest conversations had the biggest impact or contain ideas i think every business owner should hear more than once. Whether you miss them the first time around are they're exactly what you need to hear again right now these are six of the stories conversations and lessons

01:36 One of the biggest reasons that stories don't land is that they're hard to follow because you've included too much but you don't know what to take out without losing the emotion and connection. Or, you have gone off on tangents or not really made it relevant to your idle clients The framework we're going to revisit today helps you do the opposite. It gives your stories structure, keeps them really easy to follow, strips away the waffle and helps you keep your story focused on what really matters so that your audience stays with you, connects with what you're saying and remembers your message long after they've read or heard your story. So even if you listened to this episode when it first came out I highly recommend listening to it again now!

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Airbnb Origin Story, Brian Chesky and Joe Jebbia

In 2007, Rhode Island School of Design roommates Brian Chesky and Joe Jebbia faced an inability to pay their rent in California. They launched a temporary bed and breakfast using three air mattresses during a sold-out design conference, calling it Air Bed & Breakfast. This "scrappy" idea eventually evolved into the billion-dollar company Airbnb.

airbnb· brian chesky· joe jebbia· rhode island school of design· san francisco

02:35 Here is the simple structure behind every great story and how to use it. In 2007, two roommates at Rhode School of Design Brian Chesky and Joe Jebbia were facing a challenge that felt impossible Their rent had gone up their bank accounts were empty And they had no idea how they were going to afford to stay in their cozy loft apartment in California They needed to make extra cash so they could pay their rent and keep chasing their dream of building a business without having to give up and move back home. But they were broke, completely broke! And every idea they'd tried so far had failed Then one evening, they found out that a big design conference was coming to town... ...and that hotels were sold out everywhere They hit on an idea

03:35 What if they turned their apartment into a temporary bed and breakfast? They decided to act on their idea. They bought three air mattresses, created a simple website and called it Air Bed & Breakfast. They charged $80 a night and their first three guests were a man from Utah another from India and a woman from Boston They made them breakfast, they took photos and they told the story of two designers opening their home to complete strangers. It was a crazy idea! It was scrappy but it worked and they invited a former roommate to come and help them create a fully fledged business A few guests turned into dozens Dozens turned into thousands

04:30 And before long, that tiny idea born out of desperation and creativity became Airbnb. A billion dollar company built on the simple belief that strangers could trust each other enough to share their homes Of course that journey was not an easy one They were rejected by investors many times all of whom I would imagine are still kicking themselves for not seeing the vision But the founders never gave up and what started with two friends who just wanted to pay their rent turned into a hugely successful company that has changed how the world does travel, and how millions of people make a living one booking at a time. This episode is going to be really practical

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Raluca Irimescu, Compressing Brand Stories for Engagement

Raluca Irimescu from The Story Point asks how to keep origin and brand stories compact without losing vivid emotional moments. The discussion addresses the common mistake of packing too many scenes into a single narrative, which often leads to audience disengagement. Effective storytelling requires simplifying the storyline to prevent overwhelming the listener.

raluca irimescu· the story point· brand story· storytelling mastery· emotional moments

05:26 In fact, I try to make everything I create really practical and simple. Storytelling in business doesn't need to be hard or complicated – it really doesn't! Most of us do enough overthinking as it is without creating content and sharing stories sending us into a tailspin of overwhelm and procrastination So my mission on this podcast, and in my book, inside my programme and in everything that is to make it simple for you and doable so that you can create the connections you want to create and attract the clients you love working with, and build the business you want to build without getting stuck on what stories to share or how to share them. Or how to make sure the right people engage with them

06:15 So what I'm going to share with you in this episode will help you do that and avoid a common mistake that i see a lot of business owners make when it comes to crafting their stories. I know it's something lots of people struggle with and want help with because of how many clients I've worked with who have the same challenge so, I'm going to answer a question so many of you have and give you a beautifully simple solution Here's how Raluca asked the question. Hi Susan, I am Raluca Irimescu from The Story Point and my question for you is what your best way of keeping an origin or brand story compact?

07:00 There is a danger of trying to pack too many scenes in the story. And how do you compress it into a crisp and vivid story version which keeps the listener engaged without losing emotional valuable moments? Thanks! Keeping your stories concise and compact, without losing the emotion or the elements of your story that your audience will engage with... Anyone else struggle with that?! I know lots do because it's probably the most common bit of feedback i give inside Storytelling Mastery, my group program. Like that's great but there's a lot in there and that's not one story... That's five stories! Let's tell them one at a time

07:49 So thank you, Valuka for that question. It's a great question and so so important! There is no quicker way to lose your audience than to pack too much into your story You'll just overwhelm people and confuse them And as soon as people have to start working really hard To follow the story you're sharing...to keep up with where you're going with it Because you've packed in so much They will switch off Probably forever They're unlikely to engage with any more of your stories if they've quickly disengaged from the first one they read or heard. So really, really important to keep your stories easy-to-follow but still emotionally rich! We don't want to lose the stuff that people connect with I love how Raluca referred to the emotional valuable moments we want to keep those but we also want to keep the story simple

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The Hero's Journey, Joseph Campbell Storytelling Model

The Hero's Journey is a famous storytelling model by Joseph Campbell that appears in major films like Star Wars and The Wizard of Oz. It follows a hero who hears a call to adventure, faces challenges, meets a guide, and returns transformed. A simplified five-word version of this structure is introduced to help business owners craft compelling marketing content.

the hero's journey· joseph campbell· star wars· finding nemo· the lion king

08:48 And to do that, the first thing you need is a simple storyline. All great stories are very simple at their core – you want any story you share to have a nice clear storyline running through it so that it flows and makes sense and your audience can easily engage with it and be moved by it and remember it…and never feel confused or overwhelmed! So I'm going to share one of the simplest and most powerful storytelling structures there is. A structure that takes your story from a bunch of things that happened, to something that flows and has emotion and impact. And it's a structure you're actually already familiar with even if you don't realise it because it's the structure of almost every film book and story that you love

09:49 And I'm going to show you exactly how to use it in your stories so they connect emotionally and take people on a very simple but compelling journey. Speaking of journeys, the structure i'm going to share with you is a very simplified version of something called The Hero's Journey You may have heard of Joseph Campbell's famous storytelling model that shows up in everything from Star Wars and Finding Nemo to The Lion King and The Wizard of Oz. And it is based on the idea that every story follows the same pattern, which is... The hero of the story hears the call to adventure They set off on their quest They face some challenges along the way

10:41 They meet their guide or guides. We talked about this in the last episode, they slay some dragons, they learn the lessons they need to learn and return from their adventure transformed! It's a brilliant storytelling model but Joseph Campbell's version is very detailed and nuanced but luckily for us there is a very simple version that makes it easy for business owners to use In fact, it reduces it to just five words and they are Somebody Wanted So Then Those five words are going to make crafting stories that you can use in your content and marketing and talks and conversations so much easier.

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Somebody Wanted, Defining the Story Hero and Goals

The first two steps of the simplified storytelling structure are "Somebody" and "Wanted." This involves identifying the main character—whether it is the business owner, a client, or a fictional hero like Dorothy or Bridget Jones—and clearly defining their specific desire. Establishing what is at stake ensures the audience becomes invested in the narrative.

somebody wanted· the wizard of oz· bridget jones's diary· airbnb· customer stories

11:36 And stories that follow this structure are way more likely to connect with your audience and make them feel more connected to you. Because your ideal clients, although they probably aren't aware of it, are already trained and programmed to engage with and respond to stories that follow this pattern. And once I talk you through it, you'll realise why! Using this structure will help you keep your stories concise, compact and compelling. And help you to stop packing too much in! So I'm going to walk you through it now step by step with some examples so that you can see it in action. Every story starts with somebody – the main character who the story is about In The Wizard of Oz its about Dorothy

12:35 In Bridget Jones diary, it's about Bridget. In the story I told you about Airbnb, it's about the founders Brian and Joe If I'm sharing a story about me It's me! if you're telling a story about YOU You are the main character. If you're telling a story about one of your clients And this structure works brilliantly for customer stories case studies client wins anything then your client is the somebody right? And you need to introduce the main character pretty quickly into your story so that your audience knows who it's about, who they're following. Gives them someone to root for! So that was step one somebody... Somebody wanted. Now we know who the story is about, we need to know what they want. Every great story starts with the hero wanting something. Dorothy wanted to get back to Kansas right? Back to her family

13:40 Bridget wanted to find true love. Brian and Jo wanted to find a way to stay in their apartment and pay the rent, AND keep pursuing their dream of building a business In my story that I shared with you back in episode 1, I wanted to make my business work! I wanted to have clients. I wanted to help people And I wanted to have a business not just a free group A real profitable business So what about you in the story you're sharing? What did you want or if your stories about a client, what did they want. They came to work with you because they wanted something that they needed your help to get so what do they want You need to make the wants clear because once the audience knows what you want They'll know what's at stake and they'll lean in now they are invested Next comes the but

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The But, Introducing Conflict and Emotional Obstacles

The "But" represents the conflict or obstacle that prevents the hero from achieving their goal. This stage is where emotional connection occurs, as the audience relates to feelings of frustration, fear, or desperation. Examples include Dorothy being trapped in Oz or the Airbnb founders having no money despite their vision.

conflict· obstacles· emotional connection· business challenges· storytelling structure

14:42 Somebody wanted butt. In every story, there's always some conflict – there is a problem… There is a but! Because if there's no but...there isn't really a story If the hero could just go and get what they want it wouldn't be a very compelling story But our hero doesn't know how to get what they want Something is stopping them from having it And this where the emotion lives in your story This is where we go from hearing a story to feeling it So storytellers know the importance of introducing the but, the obstacle, the problem, the challenge. The conflict – the thing that's in the way and stopping our hero from having what they want. Dorothy wanted to get home! She couldn't her house had been destroyed and she found herself trapped in a strange magical land called Oz. She was completely lost and had no idea how to get back...and she was scared

15:48 Bridget wanted to find true love, but she kept falling for the wrong men. She was sabotaging herself and her relationships with self-doubt and an inner critic that kept telling her she was failing at everything. Brian and Jo wanted to stay in their apartment and build a business but they had no money and every idea they'd tried so far had failed. We're feeling frustrated Desperate and anxious. They'd moved to San Francisco chasing a dream but now they were living with the fear that maybe it was over! They probably felt pressure to prove themselves, to make it work, to not have to move back home and admit defeat... And that's what's at the heart of their story and what people relate to those What-if this doesn't work moments? Me

16:44 I wanted to build a successful business, but didn't really know who my idol client was. And I was struggling to communicate the value of working with me because if I'm honest – I didn't really know it myself! I'd tried all the marketing things everyone was telling me to do… But I didn't have the key foundational pieces in place that I now teach and so nothing I was doing was working and I didn't know why? I was frustrated, doubting myself wondering if i was cut out for business at all and having to have honest conversations about whether I could make it work. So what about you? What was stopping you from having what you wanted? What was the challenge you were facing and how did you feel anxious lost out of your depth scared of failing or being judged exhausted overwhelmed

17:44 Or determined. Determined to make it work, refusing to quit, committed to writing a new chapter? If your story is about a client what was in the way for them? What was holding them back? What was stopping them from having what they wanted and how was being stuck making them feel? So that's the third step of your storyline – The But And it is where the struggle happens, but it's also where the shift begins. It's where you decide you're done with the old story! It's the spark that leads to the sow – the moment you take action and that mix of fear and determination doubt and drive is what makes your stories real and relatable. It's where connection happens and people think oh I know that feeling

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The So, Taking Action and Facing Fears

The "So" phase describes the specific actions the hero takes to overcome their challenges. This includes Dorothy following the Yellow Brick Road, Bridget Jones starting a diary, or the Airbnb founders renting out air mattresses. In a business context, this often involves a client working through a specific process or a founder being vulnerable with their audience.

taking action· yellow brick road· air bed & breakfast· vulnerability· business strategy

18:41 It's what will keep them hooked and they'll want to know what happened next. So, let's tell them what happened next! Somebody wanted but so... So, what did our hero do to move past this challenge? What action did they take? What steps did they follow? Dorothy did what the good witch told her to do and followed the yellow brick road Facing witches, monkeys all sorts of fears and challenges along the way. As well as meeting new friends Bridget decided to take control and started keeping a brutally honest diary facing her insecurities head-on and slowly learning to accept herself even when life was messy and far from perfect

19:34 What did Brian and Jo do? They decided to rent out three air mattresses in their living room and create a simple website called Air Bed & Breakfast. What did I do? I finally accepted that what i was doing wasn't working, and decided to go into my group and share my story I got real and honest and shared it all, the bumps and bruises. And although I felt very vulnerable at the time, it's one of the most powerful things I've ever done! So what about you? What did YOU do? What steps did you take? How did you get past that thing that was holding you back? And what fears did you have to face to get there?

20:21 And what about your client? What did they do? Presumably, they worked with you. Went through your process. Got the clarity or focus or strategy or traction that they needed to overcome their challenge, slay their dragons and move in a direction they wanted to go So that's the so part of your story. The what happened next? And it requires courage! It is about taking the next step even when you're scared or unsure how it will go. And then… Finally we get to then Then, what happened? What changed? What was the transformation? Where did this story go? How did you grow? What did you learn? Who did you become?

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The Then, Transformation and Final Results

The "Then" stage reveals the final transformation and the lessons learned by the hero. It highlights the "happy ever after," such as Airbnb becoming a global company or a business owner building a profitable brand through storytelling. This conclusion shows the audience what is possible for them if they take similar actions.

transformation· happy ever after· business growth· storytelling results· airbnb success

21:13 Dorothy discovered that she had everything she needed to get back home inside her all along and she returned to Kansas knowing that what she'd been searching for was never really out there but inside her. Bridget discovered that love and happiness were never about becoming someone different, but about loving herself first and feeling worthy of love just as she was Brian and Jo's scrappy idea grew into Airbnb, a global company that transformed how people travel connect and earn a living. My then was that I discovered that i didn't need to do all the marketing things that other people were telling me I needed to do and instead found the missing piece got the key foundational pieces in place realized how powerful storytelling is

22:09 And built a business I love, one story at a time. So what about you? What were you able to do because of the action you took? What changed? How did you rewrite your story? What did you have? What could you do? Who did you become and your client? What did they have on the other side of working with you? What was different? What were they empowered to do? Who did they become What was their happy ever after story? The then is where your audience sees why the journey was so important. What it meant, what it allowed you or your client to do and also what's possible for them! They're not looking for a perfect ending they're looking to move forwards get past the thing keeping them stuck get the thing they want and become the person they need to be to have it So that is The Structure

23:17 It's the story of a hero facing a challenge and coming out changed. It is beautifully simple, and now that you know it, you can see it play out again and again – in the films you watch or books you read! And when you use it, it will allow you to share a simple story that will connect with people If you can remember those five words, somebody wanted but so then. You can tell any story whether you've got 30 seconds to tell it or 30 minutes and it will flow and be easy to follow

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Storytelling Action Step, Five-Word Narrative Exercise

The episode concludes with an action step for listeners to write a story using the "Somebody Wanted But So Then" structure. This exercise starts with one sentence for each of the five words to ensure the narrative remains concise. Listeners are encouraged to rate and review the podcast on platforms like Apple and Spotify.

somebody wanted but so then· storytelling exercise· apple podcasts· spotify· business of stories

23:54 If you think about The Wizard of Oz, right? Lots of things happen and characters are introduced. Some good some wicked but we never get confused about what the story is really about We never forget that Dorothy just wants to get back home Using the structure I've shared with you today will mean that your audience will never get confused About this simple storyline That sits at the heart of the story you're sharing So, as always before I go let me give you a quick action step that you can go away and do. Here's your action step for today simply share a story using the somebody wanted but so then structure and you can use this structure whether it's a post, an email or talk it works wherever you're sharing your story

24:52 And the easiest way to get started using that structure is to write the five words down on the left-hand side of a piece of paper. Somebody wanted but so then... and then start by writing one short sentence for each, Then you can expand from there! But stay within the structure as you share the story you want to share with emotion and meaning So that's your action step for today Share a story using the Somebody Wanted But So Then structure. And I'll see you next time for more stories that do the selling for you so you don't have to!

25:34 Thank you so much for being here. I love that we get to do this together! Would you do me a huge favour and please rate, review and follow this podcast in Apple Spotify or wherever you listen to your podcasts? And i'll see you next time for more honest conversations meaningful connections and of course stories