Topic: Perjury

The memorial will feature author Dick Reavis, who wrote "The Ashes of Waco" and recently spoke to federal agents in Washington D.C. regarding the case. Another speaker, James Spencer, is currently litigating against FBI agents for alleged perjury and evidence tampering. The segment concludes with a final summary of the April 19 memorial logistics at the Helen Marie Taylor Museum.

Clive Doyle expresses his disappointment with the congressional and senate hearings regarding the Waco siege, citing political maneuvering and a lack of accountability for officials who allegedly committed perjury. A guest named Sheila joins the conversation to criticize the government's actions, while Catherine Madison suggests that many low-level ATF agents were simply following orders based on lies told by their superiors.

Speculation arises regarding a shooting at the U.S. Capitol, suggesting it may have been a staged distraction from President Bill Clinton's legal troubles. The timing of the event coincided with Clinton being subpoenaed to testify in investigations involving perjury and the Whitewater land deal.

David Thibodeau criticizes cult deprogrammer Rick Ross for claiming the Branch Davidians planned the fire for six months. He accuses federal authorities, including Jeffrey Jamar and ATF commanders, of lying to Congress and the public about the siege. Thibodeau notes that raid planners Konyacki and Sarabin were initially fired but later reinstated with back pay after threatening to subpoena phone records from Washington.

Thibodeau argues that the government has turned God-given rights into privileges and relies on citizen ignorance of the Constitution. He discusses "Operation Trojan Horse," the code name for the Waco raid, and accuses commanders Klein-Mackie and Sarabin of staging a "showtime" event. He expresses outrage that officials who lied under oath have not faced perjury charges.

A caller discusses the stigma of supporting the Branch Davidians and mentions sociologist Stuart Wright's work on the case. Clive Doyle expresses deep disappointment with the Congressional and Senate hearings, labeling them as political theater where perjury went unpunished. He argues that the truth has been obscured by mainstream media programs like Dateline, which he believes misrepresent the events at Mount Carmel.