Topic: Tangibles

The conversation explores the tension between the LGBTQ agenda and the needs of the heterosexual Black male community. The hosts argue that Black Americans are often asked to "hold the door open" for other agendas while receiving few "tangibles" in return. The imagery of Andrew Gillum "laid out" in the hotel is compared to the powerful imagery used during the George Floyd protests to promote various political movements.

The conversation explores how withholding a vote can be a strategic tool to force political parties to offer "tangibles" rather than taking a demographic for granted. They note that while Black women are a reliable Democratic base, the large number of non-voting Black men represents a significant opportunity for candidates who actually address their economic concerns.

Mo Fax proposes using the word "atonement" as a more palatable alternative to "reparations," which has been weaponized and poisoned in political discourse. He argues that atonement implies a process that is positive for both the party making the repair and the party being repaired. They revisit the idea of an "ADOS Coin" cryptocurrency as a modern mechanism for settling the historical legal claim of descendants of slavery.

The episode concludes with a call for "health tangibles"—concrete plans to reduce high blood pressure and diabetes through education rather than fear-mongering. The hosts reflect on the failure of past initiatives, such as Michelle Obama's healthy school lunch program, to create lasting change. The show ends with a tribute to the Bill Withers song "Grandma's Hands," emphasizing the cultural importance of the grandmother figure.

A critique of the Obama administration focuses on the lack of "tangibles," or concrete policy benefits, for the black community during his eight-year tenure. This perceived lack of progress led to voter disenchantment, which impacted Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign. Donald Trump’s "what do you have to lose" appeal is discussed as a turning point that forced a more transactional view of political support.

The hosts discuss the danger of a lineage-based identity being co-opted into a formal political group. They argue that while ADOS is a birthright lineage, the formal organization's shift toward specific voting directives (like voting down-ballot Democrat) creates a deceptive conflation that alienates some members.

Moe argues for a "maturation process" where black voters stop voting based on tradition or shame and instead trade their votes for "tangibles." He suggests that in blue states, black voters should abstain from federal elections to send a signal, while still participating in local elections where they can have a direct impact. The goal is to force both parties to compete for the black vote.

The hashtag #Tangibles2020 represents a movement of black voters who refuse to participate in the election unless offered specific, tangible benefits. Marianne Williamson's refusal to use the word "trillion" during the debates is seen as a sign of political discomfort with the actual scale of the debt owed to ADOS. Advocates argue that accepting a few hundred billion dollars would be a 90% loss on what is rightfully owed for centuries of unpaid labor.