49: Brothas Be Voting

00:09 Mo Fax with Adam Curry for September 19th, 2020. This is episode number 49. And on the other side of the country is my man Mo Fax. How you doing, brother? Dot com. That's right. My friend Mo. You spell his name M-O-E-F-A-C-T-Z.com. That's how you spell his name. That's right. Hey, Mo, how are you, buddy? I'm doing good, Adam. How about yourself? Well, yeah, it's good. I mean, gee, a whole bunch of stuff happened since the last time we spoke. We've had a two-week interval since episode 48. And I guess besides the world burning down, RGB being down.

00:53 That was pretty funny last night, by the way. We got the text from you. We're watching TV. We're watching a movie. You know, it's like a rom-com. So we're all lovey-dovey and laughing. And all of a sudden, oh, no, Mo just texted me. RGB down. RGB down. Click stop movie. Oh, my God. Where were you the day that you heard of Ruth Gatorbin Ginsburg? Yeah. And oh, yeah, I went on. So I brought that news to you? Yes, you did. Congratulations. Oh, really? Yeah, you did. Oh, wow. Yeah, I had no idea. I didn't realize that. Yeah, well, we didn't either, obviously. So I went on Rogan, Joe Rogan show.

01:32 And that is since the last time we spoke, right? We haven't spoken since then. Yeah, you had went on there, but it hadn't dropped yet. Right. Exactly. Exactly. It hadn't dropped yet. Did you watch? Did you listen? Oh, yeah. I listened and followed the tweets and all the streams. And you set the world on fire, sir, with the whole ADOS lesson that you gave Mr. Rogan. It was interesting. Yeah, obviously, Joe had, I don't think Joe had ever heard of Ados. But the comments were interesting, too. A lot of people like, yay. Other people like, hey, man, you don't represent me.

02:17 I'm like, oh, okay. It was very analogous to the Bitcoin stuff. Bitcoin people like, yay, go Adam Bitcoin. And a lot of Bitcoin people are saying, you don't represent us. It's like, you know, ADOS is now. Actually, it would be a great cryptocurrency, wouldn't it? The ADOS coin? We should always write that down. That's not a bad idea. That's how we could fund the reparations. That is not a bad idea. I'm just going to write that one down. Ados coin. Okay, something to think about. We'll have Jack Dorsey connected into Cash App, something like that. Ah, Mo, I know you've been real busy, and I cannot wait to find out. Well, first of all, how's your week been? How's your two weeks been? It's been crazy.

03:03 Got some appliances delivered and only one of them got installed. Like placed all around the house, not connected. I had a water leak due to incompetence. The guy unhooked my dishwasher and he didn't hook it back up. Oh, you turned it on. I almost had a swimming pool in my... Oh, man. Luckily, my wife, something just told her to go back in the kitchen, and we had a kitchen full of water. Oh, man. Yeah. So, I mean, that's kind of how my week's been going.

03:39 And just working on, you know, this clip list, burning all the, I was burning some midnight oil last night because I got thrown down a mini rabbit hole and can't wait to present it to you. Okay. Well, why don't we do this? Why don't we crank up the wheel? We'll spin it round around. And it's the Mo Facts with Adam Curry Wheel of Topics where it stops. Nobody knows. Mo knows, of course, because he went down all the rabbit holes. He's going to surprise us again. The topic for episode 49 is... Democrips versus Rebloodlicans. Ah, yes, of course. We need to do a solid breakdown. The Democratic Convention and the Republican Convention. Yes, the sets were banging.

04:20 So you had the Democrats, Democrips, and the Rebloodlicans both had their conventions. And we're going to do a quick analysis of what they wanted to accomplish, who they were targeting, and what came out of it. So I guess we can just jump right into this VOS. Go ahead. No, I was going to say obviously this is all show. Both sides put on a show. It's a big nudging contest, a big persuasion fest. And I guess we're going to look at it from that perspective. Yeah, okay, excellent. Let's. For Americans, the colors red and blue are deeply linked to the Republican and Democratic. Democratic parties, but it's really only been that way since the 2000 election.

05:04 After all, this is what election night results used to look like on American TV. The wide adoption of color television in the late 1960s and 1970s changed all that. But it still would be several decades before the media settled on the color scheme we know today. What are the hardest states to turn from blue to red, and what are the easy ones? President Obama has won every one of these blue states. He has to turn states that have been voting blue. To understand where this red state, blue state business comes from, let's go back to the very first time a television network used color maps to report election results.

05:45 That happened in 1972, which also was the first year that a majority of American television households owned color TVs. Each of the big three networks broadcasted their election coverage in color. But here's what CBS did to differentiate themselves from their competition. They created the first color election map in American television history. And just look at Alabama on CBS's map. That oh-so reliable conservative state, it was colored pure Republican blue. Ah, we are a nation of colors. We have so much problem with color. Did you know that this is a new invention as young as 1972?

06:29 You know, I think I had seen that not so long ago, maybe half a year ago in some context. I looked at it, but I certainly was not top of mind. But it makes total sense that it was the advent of television. Yeah, of course. But, you know, just those colors by themselves. There's so much meaning in different colors. I mean, color coding is a big deal. Yeah, and this leads me to what I used as the show top ISO with the Reblood Agains and the Democrats. You have this red and blue dynamic on both sides. And

07:13 I don't think I need a theorem in here, but if you know anything about Kabbalah and the Rose Cross, you have the red and the blue of the Rose Cross. I don't know anything about the Rose, the Rose Cross. I don't know anything about this. It's the Rose Cross or the Rosy Cross. It's from the Golden Dawn, from the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn. They have this cross. You may want to look it up. They have this cross, and on one arm of the cross is red, and on the other arm of the cross is blue. And the top is yellow, and then there's white, and then the bottom is a couple other colors.

07:52 Yes. And when you start looking at the symbolism, a lot of that goes shares with the gang culture and politics. I just wanted to bring that up. I mean, just it's something there. But that is. Is that an occult symbol, or is that a true, true religion? Oh, yes, I see it here. Yeah, oh, yeah, it's an occult. Yeah, I got it. Well, it's shared by the shared by Masons and the Rochester Christians and even the Catholics, Kabbalah, the Tree of Life. I mean, yes, I don't want to go too far there, but I just want to show this left, right, red, blue, fire, water thing that's going on.

08:37 And now it bleeds over to the politics. But he ended the clip saying that the Republicans were blue and the Democrats were red. Another switch. We've got another Dixiecrat switch coming up here. One of those crazy things that they say never happened. And he explains why in the next clip. No, your eyes were not deceiving you. The states that Republican Richard Nixon won that night in his 1972 landslide victory were colored blue on the CBS map. CBS's great broadcast innovation would soon inspire the other networks to introduce red and blue maps to their own election night broadcasts.

09:19 For its part, CBS would keep the Republican blue and Democratic red scheme through the 1980 election. For Reagan, well, it's a different story. They're shown in blue, and this country is almost solidly in the Reagan colors tonight. Those pairings may seem odd today, but they weren't back then. That's because blue, as NPR's Ron Elving has noted, was a color closely associated with the Union Army led by Republican Abraham Lincoln. Red, on the other hand, was a color associated with leftists and left-leaning parties throughout the world, as it is today. But it wasn't until the 2000 election that the political concept or term red state versus blue state took hold.

09:57 On that election night, the network anchors and pundits relied heavily on the colored maps to explain how close the race was between George W. Bush and Al Gore. Very soon, those red states and blue states that the country saw over and over again on TV became rooted in American culture. David Letterman was one of the earliest cultural figures to pick up on this just a few days after the 2000 election. Candidates work out a compromise, and thank God not a minute too soon. Here's how it's going to go: George W. Bush will be president for the red states. Al W. Gore will be president for the blue states. And that's

10:36 wow. So that's really interesting. It was kind of during that long process. I guess the news media felt that red would be more alarming or something. It wasn't really explained. Because that was the election. The Republicans agree to this. But if it was why did the Republicans agree to this switch? Because it's very idiotic if you think about it. You were the party of Lincoln because blue represent the Union soldiers. And then you had the red Democrats aligned with communist regimes. Why would you switch? It doesn't make any sense to me. But it's not going to leave this on the show because it just was fascinating.

11:17 Well, what I heard in the clip is I heard him say, well, you know, the news were so obsessed with this. You know, we had the hanging Chads for three, four weeks. It took a long time. The Supreme Court had to get involved. And maybe the news media just figured it would be more alarming or it would get attention. I don't know. I don't know if the Republicans even were aware of it. You know, it just kind of happened. Everyone was focused on hanging Chad's. So I have this question, and I don't know how I don't have an answer to it, but could this be a sign where the Democrats took over the media complex? Yeah, that's possible. It could be. Because it makes no sense.

12:02 You're the party of Lincoln. You're the party of who freed the slaves. You have the blue. Yeah. And all of a sudden, you give it up, and you have your opponents who you've always called communists and liberals and communists. I mean, are used synonymous by the Republicans. You have them in this corner, and all of a sudden, you just do this switch, which makes no sense. So I just wanted to bring that up just as a point of conversation because it would work perfect now because Trump could say, yeah, we're the party of Lincoln and we're blue, you know. And those comics over there with the red, you know, I just, I mean, I just found it fascinating that this happened and it happened as late as the 80s because as you heard, they said Reagan was the blue states.

12:49 Well, no, they said it in 2000, right? 2000 during the during the right, right? The Bush Gore election. Wow. That is weird. It doesn't make any sense why the Republicans would do that, why they would agree to that. And I see it seems more to me, and I'm going somewhere with this. Why the media seemed like it was a media correction or a media decision. Yeah, listen to this. This is a quote from Chuck Todd, who I'm not a fan of, but he does meet the press.

13:27 For years, both parties would do red and blue maps, but they always made the other guys red, said Chuck Todd, political director of chief White House correspondent for NBC News during the Cold War. Who wanted to be red? Indeed, prior to the breakup of the Soviet Union, a little more than two decades ago, red was a term of derision. So it was the media rooting. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, so it was totally a media thing. And they said, you know what? Let's make them the a-holes. Perfect. Yeah, that's what happened. So I just wanted to bring that up just as a point, you know, of how things are always fluid in politics and how these two sides can, whoever's holding the power can push the other one in the red corner.

14:13 And I think that has something to do with boxing as well with the red corner and blue corner, but I didn't have time to look in that. But now I want to move on and get into the media's rundown and how they cover the national conventions. And we have CNBC with the newsworthy moments from the Democratic National Convention. I give you my word. If you entrust me with the presidency, I will draw on the best of us, not the worst. I will be an ally of the white, not the darkness. Oh, boy. It's time for us, for we, the people, to come together.

14:49 together. If you think things cannot possibly get worse, trust me, they can and they will if we don't make a change in this election. If we have any hope of ending this chaos, we have got to vote for Joe Biden like our lives depend on it. This election is the most important in the modern history of this country, and we need Joe Biden as our next president. Let me tell you about my friend, Joe Biden. When he talks with someone who's lost her job, Joe remembers the night his father sat him down to say that he'd lost his. When Joe listens to a parent who's trying to hold it all together right now,

15:33 he does it as a single bed who took the train back to Wilmington each and every night so he could tuck his kids into bed. This is the leader who wrote the Violence Against Women Act and enacted the assault weapons ban, who, as vice president, implemented the Recovery Act, which brought our country back from the great recessions. He championed the Affordable Care Act, protecting millions of Americans with pre-existing conditions. That pretty much sums it up. That's what I saw. So I want to run down four points quickly from what I took away from this.

16:12 And what I'm showing here with this clip is how the news covered the convention, how it was covered in the media. Now, we're going to go way deeper into the inner workings of the conventions. But first, you heard a lot of light, darkness talk. You heard Joe Biden say, I'm an ally of the light, not the darkness. I mean, he used darkness, not dark. Well, you know, that they were the in 2016, that was a strategy that someone for Clinton came up with. And I think Scott Adams talked about this a lot. That was a very persuasive word to say Trump made a very dark speech. It's dark. Their whole thinking is dark. So that's supposed that that is intentional, of course.

16:58 His inauguration speech was labeled as dark. Dark. I mean, I remember that. Two, you have Michelle Obama vote like our lives depend on it. And she doubles down recently on her podcast saying being black is a crime, not like a crime, is a crime. Yeah. I heard that. Yeah. It's a lot of victimization and triggering and trauma-based nudging going on there with that statement. Three, Obama, he says Joe Biden is a single dad.

17:38 He's trying to draw Joe Biden as a single parent, I think, to be able to empathize and sympathize with the target audience of the Democrats being single mothers. Yeah. Or one of the target audience. I'm like, why did he bring that up? You know, the single dad thing. And then why the media clipped this? What we have to look at in this soundbite, why did they pass? And I didn't do any editing of this clip. I let it go for the minute and whatever it was. And this is what they had. And then lastly, you have Kamala Harris coming out saying

18:18 he wrote the violence against women's bill. Hold on, Kamala. You might not want to put violence and women in the same sentence where you're talking about Joe Biden. I'm just saying. And then the assault weapons ban. Are they tone deaf? Did they not realize that Joe Biden got called out for wanting to take people's guns by that guy? He was a Democrat. I forget his name, but Joe Biden accused him of being a plant. It was somewhere, I think, in West Virginia or somewhere. So that's if you're trying to win the if you're trying to win a center

19:01 left voters in these swing states, you might not want to thump your chest about banning guns. Yeah. Just that's what I took away from. Well, also, the 10-year assault weapons ban resulted statistically in no difference. There was just no difference. You know, it turns out handguns do the job. You know, of course, you get some AR-15s or AK-47, you get some very unfortunate mass shootings, and it's always, oh, it's that one. But no, it's statistically, from what I understand, nothing really changed in that 10-year period.

19:43 So I'll point all this out. out to say, I think the Democrats have a real messaging problem because they're trying to cater to too many pockets. And I've always said this: that the Democrats is not centered around ideas like the Republicans are. They're a coalition of all these different factions. And now they're trying to bring in what I call the center left. Those are swing voters that maybe frustrated with Trump, that voted for Trump. They're more centrist. And now they might look at give Joe Biden a look. Right. But you're going to run away with this banning guns talk. And then they're trying to do the single mothers thing and traumatize black folks and this light and dark.

20:30 I just don't, I mean, they're all over the place with their messaging. Now, what inside baseball? Did you talk to your mom or anyone? What did your wife think about it? I'm sure more people around you watched. I think right now it's only two, and this is funny. I'm going to say this. There's only two groups of people that are up to change. And that's the center left, white men on white women and black men. Those are only two groups that are not. Everybody else is kind of dug in. I mean, we already talked about black women. We're going to talk about them some more.

21:13 You know, your younger voters are going to go with that are not disenchanted with Joe Biden, that really hate Trump. They're going to go with Biden. Yeah. I agree. Trump's going to get his same voters. So I think those are the target audiences. And I think this was a real miss at this convention to push the way they did by the Democrats. Now, the Republicans have some misses too. And I'll go over that as well. Because what I'm doing is, you know, to make myself clear, I'm not voting because nobody's offering me any tangibles. So I can sit back and analyze

21:59 where the two parties were successful and unsuccessful. So I guess we can go ahead and go into number five. Remember back in 2016 when Trump asked, what do you have to lose? Well, now we know our health care, our jobs, our loved ones. Black, Latino, and Indigenous people are suffering and dying disproportionately. And this is not a coincidence. It is the effect of structural racism, of inequities in education and technology, health care and housing, job security, and transportation.

22:38 The injustice in reproductive and maternal health care. In the excessive use of force by police. They see people calling the police on folks minding their own business just because of the color of their skin. They see an entitlement that says only certain people belong here. How you're prioritizing the many things you have to do as we try to tackle in a way that we haven't before systemic racism in the city. It really is about economic empowerment. And let's be clear: there is no vaccine for racism.

23:17 We've got to do the work for George Floyd, for Breonna Taylor, for the lives of too many others to name. Oh, brother. Saying their name. So, Mr. Curry, I want you to make a note of saying their names. Saying their names. Another miss is all this police talk. Why are y'all talking about the police? Kamala, you're seen as the top cop. Joe Biden is seen as the author of the 94 crime bill. Stay away from this.

23:59 I don't understand what they're trying to do here. You're not going to rebrand yourself as, you know, anti-police at this point. No matter what you do, you should just let the groups that's pushing that handle that. Another miss. I mean, these are unforced areas. I don't know who's running the show over there, the DNC, but they're doing a very poor job. Yeah, I think they're tone deaf. And perhaps they really still believe that they have black men in the bag. Sorry to use the metaphor, but I don't think they see the from time to time. It looks like, oh, okay, we got to shut Kanye up or something like that, but it's really not much.

24:40 They don't care. They just absolutely don't care. And I think they, you know, you've got just the same people talking over and over. Look who the campaign people are. Yeah, they're lazy. I watched most of the top speakers, you know, Michelle Obama, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Michelle, excuse me, Kamala Harris. Yeah. And the interesting thing was that Michelle Obama snubbed Kamala Harris. What? Did you know that? No, no, no, no. What did she say about her? What did she say? Nothing. That was. Oh, she didn't say anything about her at all. Okay. No, she didn't.

25:19 She didn't mention her. And I thought that was, I mean, come on. I mean, Barack picked her. We know, no, Joe's not calling the shot. Do you think that do you think Barack really picked her? Do you really? I mean, he had to say yes, obviously, at a certain point. Do you really think he picked her? He wasn't even endorsing Joe Biden for the longest time. He didn't think he should run as far as I, as I could tell. It's not a theory, but it's a passing thought that I think they pull Obama back in. He wants to be on a yacht. You know, he wants to go to Martha's Vineyard. And they're like, no, you got to do four more years, eight more years. You got to do it. This is how it works. You're locked in.

26:04 Yeah. It's like one of those Spotify deals. You know, you get a lot of money, but sorry, you got to play ball. Right. They call it a hip-hop, a 360. It's a 360 deal. We got you. We got your merch, Obama. We got everything. And he's late on his book, too. His book is a year and a half late. Everyone's pissed about that, too. He doesn't want to write the book. I don't think he really wants to do anything, but he has to, I think, quarterback this thing back to a win. He's the only commodity they really have. And as we've discussed in the show, he's not really a commodity anymore because he can't activate the black vote anymore.

26:50 Right. And I don't think Michelle did it. I mean, Michelle Obama seems like she's a troublemaker now. You know what she said on her podcast and just not mentioning Kamala. There's a lot of stuff. She just seems to have all kinds of issues and agendas. That's because she doesn't want, I don't think, I don't think they want anything to do with politics. They want everything that politics had to offer them. They want to do their eight years and then they go off and be celebrities. And it's just not the case. They keep getting pulled back in. You know, the media was speaking of the media before how they actually called the shots.

27:31 They were trying to make her the vice president. Right. She has no interest, but they were trying to put her out there and like basically shame her. And you see this from time to time where these factions shame people into roles they don't want to they don't want to do. And just as a quick aside, we saw this with LeBron James and the shooting in the LAPD or the LA Sheriff's office trying to get him to donate money to find the shooters. I mean, when you're this high level, they could easily nudge you to do things that you don't want to do. Well, LeBron has a whole other story. He's got all kinds of problems with people. He's got a lot of people.

28:12 I'm just saying on that level, you get pulled and pushed and prodded to where this is the problem of being a product. And we always talk about people not personally, but as a product. And when you're a product, you have to perform as they see fit. I think we left off at what, five? Yep. All right. So we're done with the DNC. Okay. The DNC big fail is basically what I'm hearing. There was nothing there. It was milk. No, no clear messaging. They're running on fumes over there. And I want to say this just to point out, I always pay attention to

28:55 the titles of videos on YouTube. The DNC, the title was watch the most newsworthy moments from the Democratic National Convention. The RNC was watch highlights from all the four nights of the RNC. There's a big difference between which one sounds more exciting. But I guess we can go ahead and jump into the highlights from the RNC. Now more than ever, America needs four more years of a warrior in the White House. I'm here because we need my husband to be our president and commander-in-chief for four years. four more years. He's what is best for our country.

29:40 On November 3rd, you need to ask yourself: who do you trust to rebuild this economy? In a new term, Ms. President, we will again build the greatest economy in history, quickly returning to full employment, soaring incomes, and record prosperity. It's all on the line. President Trump believes in you. He emancipates and lifts you up to live your American dream. You are capable. You are qualified. You are powerful. And you have the ability to choose your life and determine your destiny.

30:21 Don't let the Democrats take you for granted. Now, I heard it. I heard it. Wait, wait. Yeah. Go ahead. I was going to say, how did that play for you? I mean, I was like, simmer down, Donna Summer. It's all right, Kimberly. We're all here. We can hear you. It was a bit much. Until the end, we know who she was talking to. Did that work? Who is she talking to, Adam? And enlighten me who she was talking to. Sounds like she was talking to our black and brown communities when she says, Don't let the Democratic Party take advantage of you. Because if you listen to the way she delivered the lines, it seemed like she was supposed to end

31:07 before don't let them take you for granted. And then it's like, it was kind of like she threw if you could play that last maybe two years. Yeah, it was like a throwaway. Yeah, I understand exactly what you're saying. Hold on, let me play that last bit for you. Here we go. Your destiny. Don't let the Democrats take you for granted. Yeah. And when I heard that, I'm like, oh, they're not talking to black. Let's be clear. Let's be clear here. They are not talking to black women because they know black women don't want anything to do with the Republican Party. And certainly not. The prototype Republican

31:51 Kimberly Guilfoil. And she's prototype of what Democratic voters, women would just dislike. So I think the bell of the ball, if I could say with much glee, is the black man. We're finally lauded by somebody. It feels good, Adam. It feels real good. Even from Kimberly Guilfoyle. Oh, nice. I'm so happy to hear that. And what I mean by that is this Republican Party that I think

32:27 I mentioned it to you one time. They have this strategy of plus, the plus group or plus something plus strategy of they know they have their base. They're 43% or whatever like that. If they can add 1% here or there in these critical states, if you're talking about Philadelphia, if you're talking about these urban centers, quote-quarter urban centers. Yeah, yeah, we know what you mean. Philadelphia, Detroit.

33:06 Yeah, Detroit. You have some in North Carolina. If you can get the negative vote, they're clear. They don't need you to go vote. They just need you to not go vote for Democrats. And it's a win. And I think the Republicans, I think the first night they had four black men speak. Yeah. Most of them are clergymen or a good portion of them clergymen. We know all about the clergymen. Yes, we do. I think that they realize their role to another four years hinges on what the black man does.

33:50 And we've been talking about this for a year. That's right. Because it's the volume. They always talk about the rate, the rate. You know, 90%, 90%, black women vote 90%. It's the volume of the black vote. If you don't have both black men and women voting for the Democrats, they don't win. And I think black men are just like pretty much fed up. Nobody says anything to us. Nobody, you know, even acknowledges us. So it's like, you know what? And you have this whole tangible thing going, which it takes me back to the trick, baby. Oh, yeah. One of our friends. favorite golden clips.

34:34 And how do you handle the black man when it comes to, do you, well, let's just go into the clip. Yes, this is the dinner scene. The movie is from 1974. I was on this earth. It's you liberals who have lifted them up, Howard. Oh, you conservatives make a mistake. You can't afford to strangle hope in people. Without hope, people become dangerous. No, Howard, you liberals have let them invade our society. You give them jobs, political jobs. Oh, you missed the point. It's only the smart ones we move up. That makes it even worse. No, no, we have to move them up. If we leave a smart one in the ghetto, he might develop into a leader against us.

35:18 But if we raise him up into white society, we neutralize him. He feels compelled to try to act like us. He loses his identity and his racial anger, if he has any. He becomes alien to his brothers. They realize he sold him out and they grow to hate him. He becomes worthless to them and safe for us. No, thank you. In fact, in his love for the creature comforts, except for his color, he's become one of us. It's such a good clip. I love hearing that. So, listening to that, I know we're going to go back a little bit, but if I can hear a little bit of Guilford again and really listen to what she says,

36:04 maybe the last 30 seconds of that clip, she's talking straight to a group of people saying, Be who you want to be. Listen to it one more time. Prosperity. It's all on the line. President Trump believes in you. He emancipates and lifts you up to live your American dream. You are capable. You are qualified. You are powerful. And you have the ability to choose your life and determine your destiny. Don't let the Democrats take you for granted. All right. I have to say something. This is my systemic racism because I watched that.

36:48 And here's what I and probably every other white dude thought was exactly what I said. Calm down. It was not even hearing this message. And I, of all people, should have definitely heard what she was saying. It was like nails on a chalkboard to me. It was very abrasive. Right. But when you heard that, you heard it. Yeah. But you know, I'll be fair. I didn't hear it in real time. Her abrasiveness. I was like, calm down, lady. But when I was clipping it

37:26 and listening to it over and over again, I'm like, hold on. Yeah. This is what I heard once I actually got past her delivery and actually got to the meat of what she was saying. Us over here, the Republican Party, are not going to dink around with y'all, manipulate y'all, traumatize y'all. You're free to be who you want to be. And it was a dog whistle to black and Hispanic men. And no one caught it but you, Mo. I hope other black and Hispanic men heard it because I didn't. And this was not a thing, not a thing in the media. It's very interesting. I didn't hear it. It's crazy. And

38:09 it's not that I don't think a lot of black and brown men were watching the RNC, to be honest with you. But it speaks more to their strategy of here's this community that's been poked and prodded and manipulated for year after year after year. Now that's why now when you go back to the Trick Baby clip, you have the liberals saying you have to manipulate them. You have to steer them. You have to nudge them. And the Republicans like, just let them be who they want to be. I mean, you know, that's what I took away from it after I could get past her delivery. Well, and also just in differences in that clip, man, boy, do you hear it with the music?

38:53 And it's so well produced. Even without seeing it, the audio of the speakers the Democrats chose for a Zoom call type thing with a lot of back and forth and hosted by actresses. And just it, it wasn't a slick show. And of course, Trump had his Mark Burnett guys, you know, who these are professional producers, like the First Lady, Melania. Holy crap. It was the Bachelor. Beautiful. So on the heels of this, the. the RNC, I have this PBS clip from Shamaichu Singleton, and he kind of echoes what I've been saying previously

39:34 doing the show. But at this RNC, to broaden that appeal, to raise those favorability numbers, we have seen a concerted effort to court voters of color to court women. Are those appeals breaking through, do you think? I think the appeals could break through with a certain percent of African-American men. Donald Trump did, fared better than Mitt Romney did, and also John McCain with African Americans, generally speaking, but more importantly, African American men. And I would certainly think Mitt Romney and John McCain were far more palatable individuals, more palatable leaders when you compare them to someone like Donald Trump, yet he was somehow able to get better numbers.

40:16 And so I think if he can somewhat replicate that, maybe increase it by a percent or two in certain places like Wisconsin or some place like a Michigan where there are larger African-American populations or Ohio, when you think about the urban areas, that could somewhat benefit him. But I think when you think about his appeal to minorities, I don't think he's really focusing on African-American women. They absolutely do not like President Trump. But again, I do think when he talks a lot about criminal justice reform, when he's talking about pardons, I do think, and I know a lot of people may find this to be a bit skeptical. And those who may be aware, perhaps, are wondering how is this even possible. I do believe that there are some out there who may find his message of interest when compared to someone like Joe Biden and Akamala Harris.

41:06 Wow. What percentage? Because of course, not all ADOS, but actually I think Latinx, Latinx men, may be easier for them to say, you know, I want to support the Republicans. Or in this case, I'd just say I want to support Trump. What percentage do you think of ADOS men really can do it? And there's got to be a portion that is still largely thinking that anything but it's not the portion. And we have to parse these things correctly. I've been on this thing since show number one. It's the negative vote. Right. I have other things to do to that.

41:50 Right, right, right, right, right, right, right. So how much of the negative value? It's just 5%, maybe. That would be enough. I have an answer for you later on in the show. Oh, okay. All right. So you have to listen to the show. Yes, I will hang out for the show. All right, good. Let's continue. But Karen Hunter, I got to give her credit. Oh, really? Okay. Although we discussed this on show 46, she identified this as well, that nobody's talking to the black male voter. With Trump, 15% of black men actually pulled the lever for Trump. I think it's going to be the same. And it's that Kanye group. It's that group that just the guys just called up, that they feel not powerful anymore, that the world is shifting.

42:33 There's all of these different things going on. We got they's and thems now. I don't know what to do with that. We got women out there talking about they don't need us. We got this and this and that. It resonates with them. And I was thinking it still does. That portion's not going away. As a matter of fact, I think he might have galvanized more. I think he's going to get a lot of black men voting for him. Nobody's talking to black men. 8668-018255. Not a single one of these can. Everyone's over-indexing on black women. You're not going to win against Trump just talking to black women. You're not going to win against Trump not engaging in talking to black men.

43:12 And I'm saying this because I don't hear anybody talking to black men, period. And the only voice that actually resonates with black men is Donald Trump. You know, Karen Hunter, when I hear her, and I, of course, I remember the clip, but it's good to hear it again. It seems like she's someone who goes to work and just does her job and really doesn't believe in it or anything. She may actually be a lot more switched on than we think. It's just she has to do this for her. That's her, that's what she does. I mean, when you put the, I have to give her credit. When you put the amount of work that she has put in to get where she's at,

43:53 you don't want to rock the boat at her age. And I'm not being an ageist here. I'm just saying that when you get baked into corporate America, you can't really rock the boat because where's left? I mean, podcasting, YouTube. I mean, no, you think I'm being dumb. No, I know it's funny, but I'm really not. You're absolutely. I'll give you an example of Roland Martin. Roland Martin at one time. was on CNN and he made that gay comment about, I think, Beckham. And that kind of excited that got him that got him kicked off. That was a while ago. That got him ostracized. And then he,

44:37 the Donna Brazil, and you know, the giving the questions and that kind of thing. So, but I'm just saying, it's a very, especially for quote-unquote black people. There's no golden parachute. I mean, you could be hot today and gone tomorrow. So I got, I got, I'm, I know I'm hard on her sometimes, but she has her finger on the pulse. Her and Stephen A. Smith, because they tried to push this Lincoln Party thing where black people should vote one cycle for Republicans, and they kind of got, you know, whack-a-mole, like, get back in your hole kind of thing. So she knows, she gets it, and she used a key word there. And I think we need to introduce it to our show: the over-indexing.

45:23 This is the thing I talked about with the rate. They're always talking about the rate 90%, 90%, 90%, but you don't have the volume. And it's clear 08, 2012, black men lined up around the block to vote for Barack Obama less than 12, 08. And he won. Not so much. I mean, one of our first shows was talking about the turnout of black people in 2016. And without the turnout, it was like, I think, I forget the numbers. It was less than 60%. I think it's going to be really

46:03 close to 50%, maybe less. Wow. Because you have one group of people saying to you, you don't matter. We only need to use you for cannon fodder. We don't have anybody speaking to you. Who at the DNC spoke for black men? No, I didn't hear a single one. And I watched all of it. Pretty much, pretty much all of it. I don't think any of them did. Excuse me. Who in Black Lives Matter speak for Black men? Nobody. So you look and it's like, y'all don't have my interest at heart. And it's, I've been through four years of Trump.

46:43 He's not the boogeyman you say he is. Who I'm speaking for is a silent majority of black men. Because I'm one of them. I don't go out here and protest. I don't have a sign in my yard. Other than this show, I mean, I watch politics as a sport. I mean, more than and unfortunately, unfortunately, sports has become politics. That's the sad part. And you know what? And I think more black men are becoming. I don't want to use the word engaged because that signifies that they're going to take action, but they become more informed on politics in this time.

47:26 Because it's like, oh, you're using me. You're using my name. You're using my image, my likeness, but you have nothing for me. And you hear more and more this silent rumble. And it's kind of, I can't explain it. But it's this dance that black men do when we're amongst each other. Like, yeah. So, so what about the election? Oh, yeah. You stay at home. What are you doing Tuesday? I'm not going nowhere. Right. What are you doing Tuesday? Right. And it's nobody motivates, nobody motivates us to go out. And if we're not use the word accurately, activated,

48:10 then the Democrats lose. And I think they've picked up on it. Do you feel that the Black Lives Matter and United in Black and all this stuff? I mean, it's the NBA, it's the NFL, it's even roller derby. I mean, it's every single sport is cluttered with this. Do you think that detracts from the so-called black man's willingness to participate in the Democratic voting block? I'm going to use this word, and I've never used it before on this show. But when you have people walking around like LeBron James, 6'9, 260, 70 pounds, talking about we're being hunted, it makes black men sound like pussies.

48:58 And we don't like it. I've talked to my friends. That's not the messaging. And I'm sorry for that lewd language, but I said it with emphasis because afraid. Afraid. Afraid. Do you know who my grandfather is, what my great-grandfather is, who my father is? Right. So to say I walk around afraid. Yeah. That's not in the protocol. And it really doesn't sit well to say we're afraid. I mean, we're aware.

49:37 I mean, we talked about last show about the talk that our parents have with us. And it's a series of conversations that's intra-racial and interracial. But we're not afraid. Right. And when you do that and you use your mouthpieces to talk like that, and oh, being black is a crime. Right. No, not at all. And, you know, it really is infuriating because it's like you're treating me like a child. But I mean, I'll reel it back in, but it's just

50:18 there. But you know, it's interesting because I asked you a question specifically about Black Lives Matter. What came back was what the key figures are saying. So it's specifically LeBron and specifically Michelle. So it's not the signage necessarily. It's the people who are all in and who are doing anything but playing their sport. They're talking and they're talking a bunch of smack. Right. And then on top of that, you're celebrating people with questionable passes with past and guys that get up, put their work boots on every day, go to work,

51:01 come home and be good dads. You're trying to lump us in with these unsavory figures. And it's a separation going on, is what it is. It's a real, I know I highlighted the white civil war, but it's happening over here too. It's happening on this side too. We want to be respected as men, and nobody is doing that. And as I said before, the election of Donald Trump, not him himself, but the restoration of the masculinity, the aspect of masculinity, I think it resonates with a lot of so-called black men.

51:47 Had a real effect. Hey. And then when you hear, like you said, the RNC, we're going to get into some of the people that spoke. But I have this next clip. It's from Bloomberg Quick Takes. And it goes into, no, excuse me, excuse me. I'm getting ahead of myself. I think we left off at PBS. Karen Hunter. And then now we're going to go to Black Male Voter Project. This new project. Yeah. Yeah, let's get into that. All right, we are just months away from Election Day, and it is going to be a big one.

52:26 Whether you vote early, by mail, or in person, every single vote counts. But currently in the U.S., listen to this, about half, half of black men who are registered to vote have not done so in the last five consecutive elections. And that's what the Black Male Voter Project is working to change. Tonight, we're joined live by Mondale Robinson with the Black Male Voter Project. Mondale, thank you for being with us. Tell me about the mission of this project and why it's taking on added significance this election year. Yeah, so thank you for having me. I want to say that actually, I think it's been important a long time.

53:04 Unfortunately, because people have not prioritized the needs and ideas and issues that are important to black men, it just seems like this year is extremely important. I would argue that black men participating in an election is better for everybody, especially those who make up the lower wrongs of society. Because when we vote, we vote for issues that better everybody, not just a select group of folk. The mission of Black Male Voter Project is one that is extremely simple. It is our job to create more super voters that are black men, meaning brothers who vote every election cycle. And we're working hard to do that. We threw out traditional campaigning and introduce a new way of campaigning called BMEP additory approach.

53:44 We basically use Maslow hierarchy of needs and behavior psychology to change the psyche of black men about voting. Whoa, sounds like some deep programming happening. Oh, mind control is what it sounds like. I know I'm getting you to play a lot of clips over again. And some of these clips we might can breeze through and not really discuss more. But this one right here, he said a lot in that. So he has a thing called BM. First of all, he has this project called the Black Male Voter Project. This guy is Wont. Oh, hold on.

54:26 That's Mondel Robinson. Mondel Robinson. Yes. He's from North Carolina. Me and him are the same age. So, I mean, so I can, I can identify with him because we're both from the same place and we're the same age. And he comes up with this thing called the BMEP additory approach, and it's copyrighted. Of course. Oh, interesting. Yeah. I mean, he actually, actually, in the comment, it actually has the copyright symbol beside the additory approach, which I found funny. Yeah. And it's, we need to change the way the black man thinks. Holy crap. See this, this childlike. And then he says,

55:11 we might have to play a little bit of it again, but he says that we need to use Matt. What was it? Maslow's. Yeah, what is that? Maslow's hierarchy. We're going to get, I got that. I got it on deck. I mean, it's basically your needs. This is the level of needs. This is the last 20 seconds of that guy. That's when he really rolled it all out. Maybe, maybe last 30, maybe last year. Last 30 seconds. Okay. Especially those who make up the lower wrongs of society. Because when we vote, we vote for issues that better everybody, not just a select group of folks. The mission is to be able to. Stop, stop the clip. Stop the clip. Stop the clip. Stop, stop. And we got to break this down piece by piece.

55:54 So, first of all, this lends to what I talked about last week of us being the sacrifice. Right. He didn't say that we vote for us. When we vote, we better everybody else. Yes. I don't think that's how voting works. I'm not sure. Who are you? Be quiet. Follow the rules. Vote for everybody else. So I just want to take that piece out and continue on. Project is one that is extremely simple. It is our job to create more super voters that are black men, meaning brothers who vote every election. Stop the clip. Stop the clip. He wants to create super voters. Yeah. It's not informed voters. Super voters. Not motivated voters.

56:39 Not, you know, not stimulated voters with giving them policy and tangibles. No, no, no, no, no. He wants super voters. And let's see how he'll make them super voters. Brothers who vote every election cycle. And we're working hard to do that. We threw out traditional campaigning and introduced a new way of campaigning called BMEP additory approach. We basically use Maslow hierarchy of needs and behavior psychology to change the psyche of black men about voting. So his auditory is something with some sound or some kind of ADD. Additory. Yeah, additory. So it's like, I'm guessing addedness into

57:24 the fold. I don't know what he means by addatory. Additory. But it's basically, we need to change this psych now. Imagine any other group. You say, you know, let's just throw out there. Let's black women voters. We need to change your psyche to get them to vote. Can you imagine? Now, black women. The black ink women. And I want to, right? And I want to be clear when I say black women. We're talking about, before everybody gets triggered, we're talking about the black ink women. They made their demands quite clear. We want a black female vice president. We want a black female

58:05 Supreme Court justice. You know, they laid it out. Now, what if somebody came in the room and said, you know what? We need to change your psychology, you know, and get you to vote where you benefit everybody else, not yourself. Well, that would not fly at all. Now, that has happened, except it was never announced like that. You know, this is a pre-announcement. Like, here we come. Stand by. The word additory is not a word. What is additory? I'm thinking like he's, they're trying to add us. I mean, that's, I took it literally. The additory approach. And I couldn't find any what the acronym of BMEP stood for.

58:49 But I did do some, and this is the rabbit hole I fell in last night. Like I said, YouTube hates me. I have my clip list already. But I'm like, okay, yeah, let me go on. And it's like, bam. blackmail voter project. I'm like, okay, let me see what this is about. It just showed up in my feed. And I'm like, holy shit. Like, who is this guy? What is Maslow's hierarchy of needs? I mean, like, let people know. This is why this show is not a weekly show. It is a weekly show. We just, but when these things crop when it happens, we have to pump the brakes and stop to pick up whatever we, whatever roadkill there is.

59:35 Because I think we're what 50 days or less away from the election. We have no time to waste here, folks. You know, we can't wait till we'll get to that next week or let this thing slide. This, uh, I'm going to come back to him, but before that, let's get into what the Maslow's hierarchy of needs are. No longer part of the close-knit orthodox family of his youth, Maslow wanted to find out what could make life purposeful for people, himself included, in modern-day America, a country where the pursuit of money and fame seemed to have eclipsed any more interior or authentic aspirations.

1:00:14 He saw psychology as the discipline that would enable him to answer the yearnings and questions that people had once taken to religion. He suddenly saw that human beings could be said to have essentially five different kinds of need. On the one hand, the psychological, or what one could term without any mysticism being meant by the word the spiritual, and on the other, the material. For Maslow, we all start with a set of utterly non-negotiable and basic physiological needs for food, water, warmth, and rest. In addition, we have urgent safety needs for bodily security and protection from attack.

1:00:55 But then we start to enter the spiritual domain. We need belongingness and love. We need friends and lovers. We need esteem and respect. And lastly, and most grandly, we are driven by what Maslow called, in a now legendary term, an urge for self-actualization. A vast, touchingly nebulous, and yet hugely apt concept involving what Maslow described as living according to one's full potential and becoming who we really are. Hey, just to stop you for a second, I think it is auditory. I have a lot of, I find a lot of information about BMP auditory signaling.

1:01:37 So he might have said auditory, but if it was auditory, no, no, I'll pull this straight from his website. A-D-D-I-T-O-R-Y Aditory approach. Oh, double D. Okay. Hmm. All right. I'll put it in the show notes. Well, I could tell you, I could read what it says. It says it's designed to eliminate the inherent skepticism, lack of voter immobilization, and increase the desire within black men to participate in electoral politics greater than the casual relationship that currently exists.

1:02:16 And what I'm thinking is that just, I'm just going out of limb here. Basically, they're saying black men basically exist now on the lowest level of Maslow's hierarchy. We're just breathing. We want food, sex, you're like an amoeba, man. You're just a larvae, a larvae. So, what they want to do is go get us to the next level of safety, you know, security of body, of employment, of resources, morality, of family health. Then, the next level is love and belonging, friendship, family. So, are they talking about they're going to ostracize us if we don't vote? I'm just saying this is a very slick and sick

1:02:59 approach. How about just giving us tangibles? I mean, it's that easy. Hey, we're going to exchange for your vote, we're going to give you XYZ. Okay, that works for me. I'll go vote for you. No, no, no, no, no. We need to change your psychology. This is what I'm talking. I hope people are understanding why I get so animated about this whole process because it's never we're never treated like adult human beings. We're always dictated to. And now they're just openly saying it.

1:03:40 I mean, to say that we're going to, you know, play around with people's psychology, that's that's wild. But as I said, I had to figure out who this guy was. Yeah. So I started digging around YouTube and I found this video of Black Male Voter Project founder W. Mondel Robinson 1. Being a black man, 40 years old, who does political work and have done so for the better part of 20 years, I felt like I was obligated for my love for brothers and also because I see the white status quo, mainly the consultant class and the two political parties ignoring and also treating the black men as if we are

1:04:28 not a priority. And also that we like, like, we are necessary for the narrative on how black communities should be and also addressed around elections and everything associated with those. Mainly those who supposedly agree with us and how they exclude the black man and black male narrative and what's important and how you can talk to us and also turn out our vote. And then at the same end, while they won't spend resources on us and prioritize us, they'll definitely blame us for everything that fails with their candidates and also their electoral plans. Both parties treat black men as if we are pawns to be played with and also as if our issues aren't the most pressing issues.

1:05:11 So how does he sound? He sounds oh, it sounds okay. He's saying both parties. You know, so I started clicking around the website. If you want to go over there, Black, was it Black Male Voter Project? Yeah, I'm looking up. Please venture over there. And then I saw this, the one under events, I think. Brothers with an AS B voting. I see it right now. And the Huggy Bears. Brothers be voting. It would have been better if it said, Brothers, let me ask you, will you be voting? That would have been perfect. No, but brothers be voting.

1:05:55 That's a slogan. That just triggers my grammatical mind so much. It's like that just doesn't sit well with me. What are you saying? That we can't form a sentence correctly and you have to talk to us in this way. Talk about, you know what? You know what? I'm going to give Mondell a pass. I'm going to give Mondell a pass. Why? Are you there? Wait, wait, wait, wait. Because I have to. Okay. I have to because he hasn't proven himself to be problematic yet. Oh, there's the problematic word. Yes. Adam, you're on the website, right? Yeah, I'm looking at it right now.

1:06:35 Can you can you click on the donate button right quick? Oh, let me guess what happens here. We click on the donate button. Let me scroll down and see. Oh, and there it is, ladies and gentlemen. Your money goes right to Axe Blue, the Democratic fundraising organization. Paid for by Axe Blue. You see how he infiltrated. Oh, it's both parties. And this is their, this is their. He said himself, it's both parties that neglect us. They have realized we need to get somebody that speaks the lingo. Which apparently is apparently the lingo is brothers be voting.

1:07:18 Be voting. It's insulting. Can you imagine if a Republican operative, or if I had done that? Hey, here's a plan. If Trump, Trump, would have put this together, Black Male Voter Project. Trump would have created it. And you click on it. It says brothers with an AS be voting and all that job talk. I mean, it's the same thing that Joe Biden does. I mean, it's the same thing. Come on, man. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's this job. Give me jobs on the black hand side. You know, all that. You know what I'm saying? Like, what we're people, we're educated people.

1:08:00 We don't need to be talked to like this. And then you come with this, both parties have done us wrong and you're propped up by Act Blue. No, no, no, Mr. Mondel. You've been exposed. You know what? MoFax is on the case. That's why I said I had to go. Oh, I like it. You can buy for your wife on their store. You can buy. I love Black Male Voter. I love a Black Male Voter. I'm glad you brought that up. I'm glad you brought that up. That goes to the third level on the what was it called? Yeah, the Maslow's triangle. Loving, love and belonging, friendship, family, sexual intimacy.

1:08:44 You see what they're doing here? Oh, you can be loved, black man, if you only give us your vote. Oh, this is hilarious. So there's a t-shirt. and it's like a label on food, except it's on your chest. Uh-huh. And so it says blackmail voter. Oh, yeah, this is great. It's the most bigoted, racist things I've ever seen. I love it. Here, blackmail voter, nutrition facts, serving size, one dope brother. So that would be you wearing the t-shirt. Yeah, oh, yeah. It's one dope brother. Percentage daily concern. Our kids, 100%. Our family, 100%. Criminal justice reform, 100%.

1:09:27 Trades back in schools, 100%. End police brutality, 100%. The hood, 100%. Your racist BS, 0%. The hood, yeah. Other ingredients include book and street smarts, hood, and suburban swag. Wow. This is this is crazy. It's black on black racism right here, man. It's got to stop. This is, this is what kept me up to five or six this morning. Ordering t-shirts. I hope people understand. Oh, God. I live this. And what I mean by this

1:10:10 identifying infiltrators like Mondale. Yeah. If anybody would, if you would came to me, hey, Mo, hey, we're going to make a t-shirt for the podcast. We want to put brothers on it. Brothers be listening to Mo Facts. I had them. And then a picture of my face just to make it funnier. I like this. Future. Listen to this. Did you see this? The future black male voter youth hoodie. Wow. Wow. And honestly, I don't even think Mondale's calling the shots here because he or either he's severely tone death.

1:10:54 No. I got it. I don't think, I think somebody said, hey, Mondale, we're going to use you as the front man. You go out here, you push this BMEP additory approach, trademark, copyrighted, and we're going to put you at the front man. And these states and the states were, let's go back to what states they're targeting. Now, I thought you cared about all black men. No, no, no, no, no. We only care about the black men in swing states, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Texas, Arkansas, Ohio, Indiana, New York, New Jersey. Wow. The other 37 states that contain black men don't matter.

1:11:37 And he's a political operative. He's worked on 125 campaigns and leading roles internationally, which we have to get around to the Build Back better. If you didn't notice, when you remember when the 19th, what was it? What was it? 19th Amendment or what was the lady from the that did the first interview with I noticed that I know I'm going off on the side here but I just wanted to make this one point because he says leading roles internationally this is a globalist push the lady that interviewed Kamala Harris first that got the very first interview that she was nominated

1:12:18 for vice president the 19th amendment 19th or something like that Kamala Harris pushed the build back better we glossed over it yeah but now we see right right right right what happened to uh lift every voice that was not good that was supposed to be good no we had to do build back better it was too inspirational I don't know what that was but can I get a wusah please because I need a cigarette well again a double wussa all right no smoking on set yeah I don't even smoke I mean but I'm just after seeing this bull crap I'm like what are y'all doing hey but you know this guy is this this guy this uh

1:13:00 he is uh he works for democracy for america which is 100 oh yeah now i see it okay it's this oh yeah yeah it's the same website maker say oh my goodness they got the i didn't want to lead the witness i didn't want that's why i didn't tell you who i want you to click on the donate button yourself yeah but i've seen enough care occurry cash checks go down but he he literally he literally is the national political director for democracy for america so he you know he he's a total operative this is this is this is a this is total bogus it's bogus

1:13:40 it's it's a t-shirt site but i i still don't know what their mb a mbe whatever that thing was that he was talking about his process bm B-M-E-P, ep auditory approach. I'm guessing BM stands for black male black men. What do you think that means? I can't find it anywhere. I mean, it might not mean anything. Yeah. They just slap some crap together like BM, BMEP editory approach. Yeah, what is that? Man, but you know what? Brothers are getting smart. We're the bell of the ball, Adam. I am so happy. When you put this kind of... No, because when you put this kind of effort into it, that lets you know.

1:14:25 It makes you feel good. Makes you feel wanted, right? Yeah, yeah. Not only wanted, we hold all the cards. So hold on, Bo. Let's say. Yes. With everything you know about the, let's just say the two parties, but you could even say re-electing Trump, Biden, or no vote. If all of a sudden the Biden camp had one, despite this seems like they're pretty nuts, if they had one tangible, that would be enough for you. No, because they have so many negatives. First of all, you got to balance out the negatives with the words before you...

1:15:09 That tangible will have to be so big to balance out how you're negatively impacting this. And that goes back to Trick Baby. That's why I play that guy. You have one party that doesn't even care. It's like, you know, not in a bad way. It's like, y'all do y'all. I mean, we don't need y'all votes to, you know what I'm saying, win. But the other party is like, oh, we need to manipulate them. We need to, you know, we need the BMEP. Whatever that is. That gets under my skin. But what we have here is black men realizing we're holding on to cards. And to speak to that, we have Dr. Umar Johnson. I want to say something about the Democratic Party.

1:15:54 The Democratic Party keeps on trying to influence black people to vote as if they're going to vote away police genocide. That's right. The Democratic Party keeps on trying to influence black people to vote as if they're going to vote away miseducation. The Democratic Party keeps on influencing black people to vote as, excuse me, as if they're going to vote into office economic opportunity or vote away gentrification. Okay? The Democratic Party has not produced a plan yet. The Democratic Party has not produced a plan yet.

1:16:36 The Democratic Party has not produced a plan yet to deal with any of the major problems that affect black Americans. There's no plan for miseducation. There's no plan for gentrification. There's no plan for mass incarceration. There's no plan for access to wealth. There's no plan for police genocide. But you want people to vote. Vote for what? Right. I would be honest with y'all. I would be absolutely honest with y'all. The most powerful thing black people could really do this election, the most powerful thing black people could really do this election was not vote at all. Let it be known that we will not be participating in the election at all.

1:17:16 At all. Declare it to the country and hold your vote in your pocket. That is the most powerful thing you can do this year. Have we heard before from Dr. Umar Johnson? I'm not familiar with him. Yes, yes, we have. And Dr. Umar Johnson, I'm sure people say he's a flawed character, but one thing he is, is a great speaker. And a lot of times we want everybody to be everything. And I think if everybody just certain people play their roles, some people are builders, some people are strategists, some people are speakers. I mean, you need all of these different things and an organization or in the school of fish.

1:17:59 Right, right, right. And what he's saying here, and if you notice, he used NLP as well. Did you peep? Did you see that? No, which part was it? He repeats the same thing. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He does. Yeah. Exactly. Three times. Yeah, he's a psychologist. So, I mean, he understands how to get to people's, you know, to get them to reach people's minds. And he's letting them know, no, we're not voting for you. And it's resonating. It's resonating because I have this Bloomberg quick take

1:18:40 saying, could Trump win more black voters in November than in 2016? 2016? My name is Matthew Hawley, and I am a Trump supporter. But they think because I'm black that I have to vote Democrat. They think that they can come out and say, racism bad. You guys went through a whole bunch of stuff, and I'm here to save you. Vote for me. They've been doing that for years now, but they never change anything. This election right here will be the first time I actually cast a ballot for a president.

1:19:23 When I first seen Trump, he was standing at the podium and he addressed black people directly. And he told us, You guys have been voting for Democrats forever now. You're living in poverty. Your schools are no good. You have no jobs. 58% of your youth is unemployed from voting for Democrats all these years. And then he looked in the camera and he said, What do you have to lose? I said, I like that. Before you go on, Mo, I think I figured it out.

1:20:04 It's just bothering me to no end. I believe BMEP means black male engagement project. Okay. And it's it here it is. Black male voter project is this. We have thrown out the traditional. I just can't get past this. We have thrown out the traditional way of campaigning because of its transactional nature and lack of ability to reach brothers. Says it right there, brothers. Yeah. Where they are, which might be in Dahood. In doing so, I made that part up, but that's what it sounds like. But

1:20:44 in doing so, we have created a new campaign model that prioritizes an expansive approach to reach black men. It's in, oh, yeah. Okay. The reason why I played this clip to couple with what Mondel's talking about, this guy here is a perfect example. See, he said this will be the first time he ever casts a vote in that presidential election. So this is the voter that he's talking about. Right. And it's not going as well as well. It's not going well at all. Yeah. Well, they don't have the right. And maybe that's why the Democrats, maybe that's why the Democrats didn't address black men at the DNC.

1:21:27 Oh, that's a good point. Could have been. It's just like, let them be. We don't want to get them registered because they might do anything with that registration. Now, who's suppressing votes? Right. I think they call that benign neglect, if I'm not mistaken. But I want to, and Bloom, I don't know what Bloomberg's doing here. Maybe he's a little salty that they didn't pick him to be president. Why would he put this on his channel? And then the blur, I always like to capture the blurb under the YouTube video. And it says, go ahead. Well, I was going to say, okay, so Bloomberg, Bloomberg television, like CNBC, which I watch both.

1:22:09 The CNBC is a little more dynamic, but they actually have to have some kind of good information because people make investment decisions and have strategies based upon what they say. Got it. And so their truth comes out a little bit more. Also, I think Bloomberg, he got pissed off. I don't think he's put his money up. You know, all those races that are going to put $100 million into, I don't think that happened. It seems to me like that kind of quiet. You know why? Would you? Would you? I mean, did you see what the Democrats did to him? Joe Biden did to him at that black church. Yeah. We had those black people. You're right. You're so right. Yeah. You're so. So he's like, screw y'all. You know, I'm a worst case scenario. I'll get Trump's tax cuts and I'll be a super duper billionaire. So I mean,

1:22:55 but in the blurb, it says, it says, support for Trump for Trump from minorities has been particularly high among young men and those without college degree. Says American University professor David Barker, who recently released a study on black voters. Trump's campaign is betting that this year he can gain even more traction. So this goes back to where I said at the RC. That's what the people that they brought up there. That whole show was targeted at give us a look. And not even vote for us, but give us a look. Let us tell you how bad the DNC is.

1:23:39 is. Let us tell you how bad Democrats have done you. And you do us a solid by not voting, you know, and we'll continue to look at all this money's been thrown around to start small businesses. So they're having a concerted effort to restructure the Republican Party. And I don't think they're trying to bring black male voters into the party per se, but on a case-by-case campaign by campaign basis, consider not voting for Democrats. This negative vote is a big deal. I know I harp on this a lot, but it's a big friggin deal.

1:24:20 And as we talked about in our very first show, what do you have to lose? Resonated. Yeah. Because it's like, you know what? He's right. And the guy said, that's the first time any president had talked directly to black men. Even Barack Obama did talk. Well, he did. Pull up your pants. Be somebody. You know what I'm saying? That kind of thing. It's like, what? No, he. Who do you think you are? Yeah. No, he cried over Trayvon. He cried over Trayvon Martin. No, but when there's a, there's a, there's a speech that he gave at a church, I think on Father's Day or something. And he would just rating. Oh, it was all your fault. Oh, okay. Of course.

1:25:03 Yeah, you've done it all wrong. You're not around. You're not. I remember that. Didn't he say like you're not around? Yeah, pound cake-ish. It was real pound cake-ish. Alluded to the Bill Cosby speech. Right, right, right. On one hand, you say systemic racism, but then on the other hand, pull up your pants, be somebody, that kind of thing. No, be better. Be better. Be better. Right. We didn't grow up with super duper millionaire stepfathers. Sorry. Sorry, Barry. Now we're moving on. So, Trevor Noah. He had to put his two cents in on the RNC

1:25:43 and their appeal to the black voter. So last night, the party showcased their diversity by giving speaker slots to all four of America's black Trump supporters. And I don't know what they're going to do for the rest of the week. I mean, Tim Scott has already spoken. So they're going to have to bring him back out on Wednesday with a fake mustache. Like, hello, it's me, Senator Brim Schmart. And I also support Donald Trump. This South African douchebag. I mean, you know, I've always had a problem when I hear Brits bitching and moaning about our system. You know, I'm sure they feel the same when I talk about Brexit. But man, Trevor Noah. Adam, you're sounding like a self-hating white man.

1:26:28 What? No, no, no, no, well, I'm saying, that's what we're told when we say, you know, when non-ADOS people speak on our oh, yes, oh, of course, right. No, I'll being facetious there. I know what you're saying. That's what we're told. Yeah, you're a self-hating black person if, you know, if you don't let Joy Reed speak for you, you know, speak for you. Speak for you. Speak for you. Speak for you. Speak for you. You don't let Trevor Noah speak for you. And don't you see a trend here? Over this whole 49 shows we've been doing. How many actual ADOS men have we heard in the media speaking about the topics we've been talking about for the past more than a year? I don't think a single one. How many ADOS people? Man, Jay.

1:27:13 A few. No, not just men. I mean, who? Malcolm X clicks. I'm talking about in the media now. Yeah, right. You got to go back to the 60s. It's that bad. It's that bad. Well, that's what I said to Joe Rogan. That's what I said to Joe Rogan. I said, who are the where are the male leaders of Black Lives Matter? He's like, I don't even know who the female leaders are. But it's like, it's so obvious because you don't see him. They're not. There's no names. No one to say, oh, yeah, that guy. No, none of it. Mo Facts. That's what I, that's the only one I know. And Ados, I mean, they're out here, but they don't get the TV time. That's the problem. They don't get the TV time. And if they do get the TV time, they got to do what Mondell did. That's the only way you get to heal your TV. Mondel, I would assume he says from North Carolina.

1:27:58 So I would just assume that he's ADOS. But to get the platform, you have to carry, you're saying, carry water. Yeah. And it's not working anymore. And I'll be honest with you, there's a lot of good allies out there that are not ADOS, but they even see our plight. One of them, the brother from the TD media, we played his clips before. He's Haitian American. But he goes 10 toes down for the ADOS movement lineage. Let me be specific there. So, did we finish up with Trump? No, I didn't even get three seconds into it before I was sick of the guy.

1:28:42 He does trigger me. And he does this all the time. He just, oh, it's all four of the black men. It's like, shut up. Just annoying. So last night, the party showcased their diversity by giving speakers' slots to all four of America's black Trump supporters. And I don't know what they're going to do for the rest of the week. I mean, Tim Scott has already spoken. So they're going to have to bring him back out on Wednesday with a fake mustache. Like, hello, it's me, Senator Brim Schmart. And I also support Donald Trump. And while some of the black speakers last night attested to how not racist Trump is, one of the speakers went even further and declared that the real racists are the Democrats. You may be wondering, why is a lifelong Democrat speaking at the Republican National Convention?

1:29:27 And that's a fair question. And here's your answer: The Democratic Party does not want black people to leave their mental plantation. We've been forced to be there for decades and generations. But I have news for Joe Biden. We are free. We are free people with free minds. So let me get this straight. When other groups organize and vote by their interests, they get a fancy name like voting blocks. But when black people do it, you get told you're acting like an extra on roots. And why is it that the people who always say you should be a free thinker have a very specific set of instructions on how to think?

1:30:07 Think for yourselves, black people. All right, man, I'm going to do that. I'm going to vote for the Democrats. No, I said think for yourselves. Vote Republican. Okay, maybe I'll vote independent. Yo, you better start thinking for yourself. Wow, he's really missing it. He's missing the don't vote part, isn't he? No, he's projecting is what he's doing because that's exactly what the Democrats do. If you say you're going to, and I'm not talking about the party, I'm getting personal here. Yeah. When I tell people, yeah, I'm not voting. What? How can you not vote? You're against like against your people. No, no, what they'll say. What they'll say is, this is how it goes. Well, you know, yeah, I'm not thinking about, I'm not voting. There's nothing tangible out there for me. How can you let your ancestors down?

1:30:51 And, you know, your forefathers that got beat in the streets for your right to vote. How can you let them down? Well, you know what? I'm looking at Trump. I mean, he has. How can you, what? How can you even consider voting for Donald Trump? Now, what choice do I have? Right. No vote. He completely projected their 100%. And I was, when I heard, I was like, what? I've never heard a Republican say that. Like, oh, you know, what he how he laid it out there. But in all fairness, what we like to do, we don't like sound bites here. We like to go get the whole, you know, listen to the whole footage. And I want to say this before we continue on with the Vernon Jones National Convention speech.

1:31:34 Did he not look presidential up there? You know, he'd been on TV a couple of times, and he's a state's representative, I think, for the Democratic Party. And well, so was Obama. So I mean, he can move fast. He's not even a senator. He's just a state senator. I understand. I'm just saying, but these things can move quickly. I mean, if they can get you in the right state, I mean, and get you, you know, seat somewhere. Interesting. But I'm just saying the way he carried himself. Now, the guy's great. I was going to say, I saw him on MSNBC pushing back, and he was getting a lot of crap for it.

1:32:14 And he doesn't care. He seems to be a pretty straight shooter. And what he did, obviously, is political suicide within the Democratic Party. So we'll see where he goes. I mean, I'm not expecting him to make the big announcement that he's switching. I don't think he, I don't think he should. I don't think he should. I think he should say I was a former Democrat. Not identify as a Republican. I mean, if I'm giving him political advice, this is what I tell him. I'm a former Democrat. Kind of play it like Barney plays it. You know, I'm with the party, but I'm not a Republican because that comes with a certain

1:32:55 weight that weighs you down. But the reason why I say presidential, the way he carried himself, it's not like he would seem like a tool for the Republican Party. Not at all. Not at all. That is free man walking, free man thinking. That's the way he looks. That Kanye, that Kanye, he used Kanye. Didn't we text each other? It's been so long ago. I mean, it seems like we did. The world melted down, but I remember watching, I think we were texting each other. Look, what did Vernon just say? Exactly. All right. So I'm just saying. just saying, if you put the Republican machine behind him, but you don't make him a Republican per se.

1:33:37 And if he can peel off some black votes here and there, or at least keep people home, he could easily get a seat in Congress, you know, and in Congress and then leverage that into a political realm, maybe 2028. I mean, I can see it. I mean, I know it sounds crazy, but I can see that happening. It's not crazier than Ivanka. Right. And then he hasn't lost his voice. And then that's the white voice that we have. We're going to have to do a show on that one day because that matters too. The way you speak. It was more important than what you say.

1:34:19 Obama practiced that what he did, you know, and the DeWalt, the DAP, that kind of thing, the swag. I mean, you even said it yourself. I mean, what did the t-shirt say? Something about something swag. I mean, that's what I'm talking about. He didn't lose his swag. But let's go on and get into the Vernon Jones' actual speech at the RNC. Time for sleeping in the basement. Joe Biden has had 47 years to produce results, but he's been all talk and no action. Just like so many of the Democrats who have been making promises to the black voters for decades.

1:34:57 We've been their captive audience. When President Trump sought to earn the black vote, the Democratic Party leaders went crazy. Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer literally started wearing Kente cloths around the U.S. Capitol. I remember this. As if pandering were enough to keep us satisfied. Let me tell you why I'm supporting our president. I grew up in the South in Laurel Hill, North Carolina, Scotland County, the Green Pond community, to be exact. My parents, Robin and Rufer Jones, built with their own hands a four-room cinder block home with no indoor plumbing.

1:35:40 They had very limited education, but they instilled in us a strong work ethic that drove me from those tobacco fields of North Carolina to those hallowed halls of the Georgia General Assembly. My parents taught me if I believed in God, worked hard, and treated every person fairly, there was no limit to what we could achieve. There's your message. That's nice. Yeah. And it resonates because it's not like he came from a bullet upbringing. I mean, he has depth. He has depth to him.

1:36:17 And I think that's very valuable. And to come out and say these things in this time where you see a maturation process going for black male voters, he's somebody to keep an eye on. That's all I'm going to say. When does the real backlash come, though, man? Beside the outside of the choosing not to vote and not going along with the Democratic idea or the voting block. When does the actual backlash come? I mean, when I hear some of this and I look at this brother's things, like at some point,

1:36:57 excuse me, don't fucking talk to me like that. I can imagine. I'm getting mad, you know, by extension. It's like, don't talk to people like that. That's so insulting. And a certain, don't you get that feeling? Like, I'm going to snap over this guy. It's nuts. No, what it is, is the sentiment is we'll show him. Okay. Right. We'll show him. You feel us when that number gets under 50%. And that's the whole thing. That's all the only leverage we have, right? Is you so how do you spike the ball? So when so when it works, which I believe it will, you got to have, there's got to be some plan. Like, hey, we did that.

1:37:43 Oh, no, we're going to get blamed. Don't worry. Don't you worry your pretty little credit. Pretty little head. Credit will be given. Credit will be given. Trust me. Black men gave us another four years of Mussolini. Trust me. Okay, nice. Yeah. So to give you an idea of the plantation mindset, this is another one of our golden clips. And this is from the heritage of slavery. And we're talking on NASA Speaks 3. What is tended to make you more liberal? Well, realization that the Negro.

1:38:24 Negro is a human being like anyone else. Mr. Hasty, what did you think? We were before you began to think of us as human beings. Well, in a way, we thought of you almost as a very superior pet. Something or rather someone we had to take care of because we had to do so much of their thinking for them. We had to do almost everything for them, except living their own lives. Anything outside, we had to do for them.

1:39:03 And just to put it into context of time, this was 1968, so just around the type of the just around the Civil Rights Act. And this is how people thought. But they still think like this when you go back to the BMEP, we have to think for them. Yeah. It's a very exquisite kind of pet. I'm a little puzzle pet. So nice. We roll you out every four years, you know, like, I mean, like you do a pet, you know, walk them around the block. Right. It's so insulting. Man, I just can't understand how you just don't get really. I get it. Yeah. You'll get your credit and be like, yeah, how you like, how you like us now.

1:39:46 But still, it's. Right. And we're just rubbing our hands like, oh, yes. Yeah. Wait till no. Right. You're going to feel it. You know, it's going to, you're going to feel our, you know, feel our wrath. And it's not only black men. A lot of ADAS feel that way. You know, y'all talk to us. Y'all treat us like pets. You, you pander to us, can't take all off. Jesus Christ. I mean, like, who is it? And that tells you it more speaks. This doesn't speak to the white Democrats. No, no, no. This speaks to how out of touch the black Democrats of Black Inc. are. Who said to her, oh, yeah, we need to get some Kente cloth.

1:40:30 That's what we need to get. I'm still baffled by that. There's not a single African American, Black American, ADAS American who didn't go, Are you kidding me now? I mean, that goes to show you. That goes to show you. It's tone deaf, colorblind, tune deaf, everything. I'm going to say this and we can get into the next clip. There is going to be a lot, a lot of turnover after this election. You're going to see a whole new regime on the Democratic side of colored people because they're inadequate. They don't speak the language. They don't feel the vibes.

1:41:16 And because they don't speak the language, they're so easily duped by some guy with a hoodie that says, hey, let's address them as brothers. Okay, that'll work. Right. So I know I've been harping on the Democrats here, but Republicans have, or conservatives, let's say conservatives, have their hang-ups too. Because at part of this show, we've talked about reparations. But there's this element amongst black conservatives that are not for reparations. And to go even further to say it's time for black people to get over slavery.

1:41:58 Oh. You agree with the prompt? You'll walk forward. If not, you'll stay back. People need to get over slavery. All right. So I guess I started off. I mean, we all know that slavery was a terrible thing. It was an atrocity. It was a human tragedy. But we can't just be talking about slavery every day. It ended in 1865. This is 2020. We got to press forward. Our ancestors, they went through a lot. They died for us to be able to be here right now. Yes. And the best country on planet Earth. Yes. Take advantage of what we have right now rather than looking in the past and saying, oh, well, woe was me because of slavery. You know, there have been other groups of people in slavery all throughout the world. They can't just stay in that state.

1:42:41 So people, a lot of times, they stay right in their place and others are being able to pass them because mentally they've moved on while others have not. Oh, you haven't moved on. I see. I'll say, so this is Anthony Bryant Logan. He's an intelligent brother, sensible. The thing I would say about him is, and this is where it gets very dangerous. We can walk and chew bubblegum at the same time. I'm a productive black man. I've moved on, but that doesn't mean I have a legal claim to, you know what I'm saying, to collect what my ancestors are owed by this.

1:43:19 this country. You know, I mean, it's two, you're conflating two different things. Now, I've said this before, and I'll say it again, and it pisses people off sometimes when I say this. The narrative of slavery is just as dangerous and just as damaging as the actual act itself, because that's what perpetuates the victimization mentality. Now, that's why I said now, Anthony, he's sensible. I can understand where he's coming from. So, I can disagree with him. I don't know what his stance on reparations is, but I get what he's saying. We need to move on because some people do use that as a stumbling block or a crutch to say, I can't move forward in life until I'm repaired and made whole.

1:44:02 No, you can. Tons of people do it, but that doesn't mean we need to negate the claim that we have that we have an official legal claim of being repaired via reparations. But this next person, this is where keeping it conservative goes wrong. Lady Cage. They constantly use slavery to put them in a victim mentality. We can't accomplish this because you enslaved my ancestors. Slaves were taught English. Slaves were taught how to become managers and secretaries and cooks and chauffeurs and how to build water tanks and all sorts of things.

1:44:49 We're here now. What was that? That was mind-bending. No, you're going to have to run that. What she says is basically, slavery was all right. We learned English and skills. We gave you some people. Managers. Yeah, yeah. What's your problem? What? Let's hear it again. Let's hear it again. Let's hear it again. Let's use slavery to put them in a victim mentality. We can't accomplish this because you enslaved my ancestors. Slaves were taught English. Slaves were taught how to become managers and secretaries and cooks and chauffeurs and how to build water tanks and all sorts of things.

1:45:35 We're here now. Wow. Who is this? Lady Cage. Nothing fills up that resume like slavery. That's right. I'll tell you that. Lift yourself up by your bootstraps. And this is where they lose a lot of people. Because when you start talking like that, and I'm going to say this, these are the kind of people that they're going to have to get either on message or get away from. Yeah, exactly. Because they're very damaging. I'm just giving political advice to you saying to the right. You can't prop up people like this because when I heard it, I'm like, lady, are you crazy?

1:46:18 Where's the venue? Where was she speaking about this? Oh, this is Jubilee. And it's a channel on YouTube. And they bring in people from various sides of an argument. Like this one was black liberals and black conservatives. And they were talking about, is it time to get over slavery? And they do, you know, feminists against whoever, you know, conservative women, that kind of thing to bring them in and have a discussion. And this kind of woman shouldn't be given a platform. I don't know her personally. I'm not, I mean, but on this topic, let me say this. Everybody should be able to have a platform. But on this topic, it's not, if you want to have a genuine conversation,

1:47:03 you have to vet these kind of people because this is inflammatory. You're not going to get anywhere. I mean, what? Slavery gave us skills. Yay. All right. Moving on. But I'm just saying. Yeah, both parties have their problems. And like I said, Anthony Bryant Logan, he was sensible. He laid out his argument. I get it where he's coming from, even though I don't. I think we can, like I said, walk and chew bubblegum at the same time. We can be productive, but also make the case that we need to, you know, receive reparations. And really, I'm going to start using the term on the show, atonement.

1:47:45 Atonement needs to be made. And I'm going to lay that out later on in another show, but that's really what is being said for both sides. Going back to Trevor No. Hold on a second. Yes. Yes. Atonement. Okay. So we have three terms. We have atonement. We have reparations. We have tangibles. Tangibles has been poisoned. That is now a conspiracy theory. Russia. Russian bots. That's not real. People who say that it's conspiracy theorists. I've heard all this. So you want to use atonement, but that doesn't. In America, we settle things pretty much one way.

1:48:30 Money. No, atonement is no. Atonement can be, I mean, if you look at the definitions of it. And that's why I say I need to lay this out, but you grade it. You alley them. I'm Oopen on home. The same way tangibles have been poisoned. Reparations is a non-starter. And we always talk about these non-starters. When you hear certain words, it's been so weaponized that as soon as you hear it, it's like, nope, I ain't listening. And so we need to, if we mean the same thing and we can use synonyms for different words to get people get past that threshold of the, you know, the gag reflex.

1:49:13 No, no, no, no. They said reparations. I'm closing my ears. We've talked about this before, like all lives matter. I mean, it's a way to say that, but that has been so weaponized. And it's a host of others that we talked about that are just non-starters. And I think reparations, the word, not the idea. Let me be clear. Because I am pro reparations, but what we need to really do is talk about how it's positive for both sides. When you look at the word atonement, it's about how it's positive for the people that's being repaired as well as the people that's doing the repair.

1:49:53 I'm telling you, this crypto, the ADOS crypto coin, this is the idea. You give every ADOS person in America, you give them like a million ADOS coins, and then that can literally be funded by the government. And it would be equal to a dollar. I mean, it's just a crazy idea, but it's why not? By the way, atonement literally is synonymous with reparation. You're right. It is. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We can use another, and it comes off as I'm going to get there. It's another show for another. It's another day. And it doesn't hit the eardrum

1:50:39 the same way as reparations. And people just think, oh, because when we start first having our conversation, it's like, you know, it was like, what is reparation? What does that really mean? And it's like, no, it's not a handout. It's not, no, a government assistance program. It's a legal claim. It's the last check. Our assets didn't pick up their last check. So, you know, we want that with interest. Come on. Well, that's not at all. That's what I said on Joe Rogan. Like, it's, we need to deal with this. Let's just deal with it. Come on, move on already. And that's what atonement is from the side of the person doing the repairing. If they're actually atoning, that means I made you whole.

1:51:22 The person, the person that needs to be repaired is made whole. It's an agreement and it's a better word. Well, yes. Yes, it's a better word, but I can see this being poisoned. And we'll have to find another word. Of course. Of course. Yeah. I mean, you're exactly right. But let's continue. Now we got to circle back around with Trevor Noah. You're trying to hurt me on purpose with this guy, aren't you? Okay, what is Trevor doing? Okay, this is the RNC appeal to black voters too. I mean, black women in this country vote Democrat more than anybody else. And I'll tell you now, nobody is more of a free thinker than a black woman.

1:52:04 I dare you to try and brainwash a black woman. You'll come out of there joining her cult. I'm in the gut of, I should have shut my mouth. And also, this argument is especially confusing coming from this dude because he's saying the Democrats are trying to enslave you. Also, I'm a lifelong Democrat. That's like every confused meme on the internet at once. Like, does that mean he's keeping his own voters on the mental plantation? I feel like I need to watch 12 years of mental slave to understand what the f he's talking about. Why does Trevor Noah get to talk for black people in America anyway? I mean, isn't that just tell me? Yeah. I mean, if I can't, if I'm not allowed to, he's allowed to. Let me give you an analogy. That's like Kamala Harris speaking for Native Americans.

1:52:49 Yeah. We're both Indians. Technically. Yeah. Yes. That's a good one. How would that fly? How would that fly? Nobody thinks about it that way. It's like technically, you know, hey, we were oppressed by, what's the word they like to use? Not imperialism, but the other one, colonialism. Colonialism. Right. Native Americans were impacted by colonialism. Asian Indians were impacted by colonialism. She's Asian Indian. She's Indian. She's brown. They're brown.

1:53:29 Why can't she speak for Native Americans? I mean, it's the same thing. If you said that, people look at you crazy. But then if you're brown, they're brown. You were affected by, I guess, slavery in South. I think he's from South Africa. You're affected by slavery in America. Two totally different things. Oppression systems, one apartheid, one, I mean, a slavery, shadow slavery system. But they let him get away with it. We got to start calling these people out. And I'm glad you brought that up. I mean, why does he get to speak for us? We have to take these people down. And it's not only him. You know, I say, I'm going to throw Joe Reed back in there. And not only does Joe Reed speak for us, this is another golden clip.

1:54:13 This is the black bots. They appear to be a human, but they don't. They have a big gap, as Adam just said, in the times that they've tweeted. And they tweet you. Should you respond to them? Generally, no. I mean, off the bat, you should stay back and just sort of watch their engagement, how many times they're tweeting, what they're tweeting about, and even the topics in particular. And a lot of the ones that are pretending to be black people, black women in particular, who are focusing on black identity, have these sort of aspects in the ways that they're talking about language. If we saw the other day, there was an account that was supposed to be for black supporting Howard Schultz.

1:54:53 That account was eventually pulled down, but that was a prime example of someone trying to mimic support from the Black community for a particular candidate. So these kinds of things that are happening at this moment, we have to pay a little bit more close attention to it because there is nuance, but there are also identifying factors. For example, right now, from the Black Identity Framework, there's a new sort of hashtag and/or identity that's in their bios called A-D-O-S or D-O-S, which is standing for Descendants of Slaves. Yes, yes, yes. Well, this isn't this how we kind of met with this thing.

1:55:33 Yes. And I like to give people our origin story one more time because I know we probably have a lot of new listeners from the Joe Rogan experience. What we call the what we call it, Joe, Johnson, Johnson, Ronamo, Joe Namo. It's all good. Yeah. Joe Mo. Okay. So, and you correct me if I'm wrong, how this went down. So I heard Adam on no agenda. I'm a listener. I'm excited, a producer. So I was listening. And you used the term DOS, which I was impressed

1:56:13 because you did the homework to figure out there's a group out here saying about descendants of slavery. But I think it was around the HR 40. I think that's what you were speaking about. Yes, it was the reparations study group. Right. Yeah. And something in my soul, and I'm a man of faith. I believe it was God. And God was like, and it wasn't like immediately. I walked around with this thing for a day or two and it's like, you have to reach out. And I don't know Adam for a McCann of Paint. I know him from the No Agenda show, but I never had any interactions with him.

1:56:54 But I'm like, I can't let this ride, this DOS thing, because this lends to what we're talking about now. This lets Trevor Noah and Joy Reed and all the other people that are not ADOS into the conversation and start dictating how ADOS needs to handle their affairs. So I was like, he, I got to let him know about he needs to add that A. That A is important. And I reached out to you and I sent you an email explaining, you know, you're on the right path, but it's a little nuance to it. And you were very receptive. So much receptive that I think you were on your honeymoon and you

1:57:34 texted me for two days. We were DMing. Yeah. We were DMing on Twitter. Yeah. And it was just like, yeah. Yeah. No, it was like we had an affair. That's what it was. Right. It was like back and forth, back and forth. It was like, really, really? Yeah. And I was like, yeah, it's this whole separate thing. But I want to let people know. And I'm not, I don't, you've done the work. I don't have to validate you in any way, but I'm just saying, even before your interactions with me, you were on. on the path of DOS and it being a thing. It was just that you, you honestly, ADOS was being suppressed. Well, yes, because they were being called bots, Russian bots.

1:58:18 And to me, that's what I do. Whenever I look at the news or story, I'll see some positioning. I'm like, well, that, whatever that is, that's shit. I'm like, something's got to be good about that. Let me see what's going on. And it was that clip specifically. That's where I got the DOS from. And I was reading about it. I was like, what is this? What is going on? But anyway, yes, the origins of Mo Facts with Adam Curry. Yeah, so that's how it started. And here we are, 49 episodes later, pointing out more misinformation by the mainstream media.

1:58:55 Disinformation, specific disinformation. It's really, it's quite evil. And most of it's Trevor Noah, he's not broulet. He's dumb. He doesn't know. He's just making jokes. I don't think this guy, I don't think he's that impressive, really. No, but I mean, he has the look, the Obama look. I mean, trust me. He's got the one. That plays into it. But it's funny that they don't call out people like this guy over here. The very thing that they were talking about, this astral turf kind of movement, that Mondale operation over here is exactly what they tried to label ADOS as, and it's not that.

1:59:38 But this clip is so rich, I had to bring the second part into it. And that's clip 22. Because if we know, as we've seen, that the ones who are the most valuable to the Democratic Party is black women. We have identified at least five existing campaigns that are focused on getting black people to do only one thing. What not vote for the Democrats. And can you name one of those five campaigns? I mean, we put up from the report that you're saying that there's a conversation about reparations that has to do with it. There's a criminal justice conversation. There's an immarations. Go on. Reparations, immigration, and

2:00:20 sorry, reparations, immigration, and anything that has to do with the criminal justice system. So the reason that the targeting of Kamala around being a cop is important is because anything that hinges on criminal justice becomes a divisive issue. Did you read something? We're out of time, but how can people tell the difference between the real genuine thing, a Black Lives Matter, and the ones that are just designed to make you not vote? How do you even tell? You could tell right away by the language that they use most of the time. But if you see anyone who says basically tangibles or you're not getting our vote without getting something back, you should start to pause and take a better look at what they're saying.

2:01:00 Better look at those accounts and seeing what they're saying. Yeah, that MoFax account talking about reparations and tangibles. This has got to take a lot of time. You're asking for something. Can't have that. Wow. That was it. And they get on national television and say this with no regard. And so this is where we take, you know, we take a, you know, a little, go off in a little tangent here away from the DNC, but it has something to do in the RNC, but it has something to do with that. So my question was: Killer Mike was put in front of every microphone when they were trying to drum up support for Bernie Sanders.

2:01:44 Why was he at the DNC? Why wasn't he giving a stage to, I mean, me and him disagree on some things, but I think in all honesty, I think his heart's in the right place. I think he puts up, you know, where puts his money where his mouth is. Didn't he organize an ADOS something in Philadelphia or something? There was a little moment there where he was doing stuff. He was him and ADOS, the organization. Ah, Ados. Yes, they had some interactions. I think him and Tone did some interviews or whatever.

2:02:23 But what I'm saying is, why didn't they? I mean, you see, you were struggling with the black male vote as a Democrat. So it's like, who can we put on the stage? Who has credibility? All right, Killer Mike. You know, you've been one of the speakers for the party. Let's give you, let's give you an opening on one of the nights. I mean, ain't like, I mean, who better did you have? I mean, let's be honest. But Killer Mike is all about, you know, it appears to make change. And I want people to see this doesn't only go for. Vernon Jones that you can be, and I'm going to use this word

2:03:06 lynched in the media because that's what Trevor Noel was trying to do. Yes. Put up on the sacrificial table. That's what it will happen. It was also done to Killer Mike, one of their faithfuls, when he met with Governor Kemp. Trending today, Atlanta rapper and community activist Keller Mike getting some mixed reaction online after meeting with Governor Brian Kemp. Yesterday, he posted on Instagram about his meeting with the governor. He said he had a real talk with Governor Kemp about the low number of black-owned businesses who are contracted by the state, free trade school for black men and boys, as opposed to building more jails and the justice system dealing with children's trauma instead of jailing them.

2:03:49 Governor Kemp later tweeted about the meeting. He says that they talked about the pandemic's effect on businesses, the value of skilled trade workers in the fight to end human trafficking. But today, the rapper was trending on Twitter, drawing both criticism and praise for the meeting. Some critics say this was not representative of the black community, citing the controversy around the governor's electoral victory against Stacey Abrams, while others praised him for taking positive action. Yeah, he went up against a black woman. Oops. No, but he's trying to help black women and children that are being human trafficked with Atlanta.

2:04:29 And I'm going to say this one thing we could push on. But Atlanta, we really have to look at that. All those strip clubs have an element of human trafficking. They never have a shortage of strippers, young strippers. We really have to look at this feeder system. And he went to one, that's one of the things he, amongst other things, a job for young black men and that kind of thing. But it's like, no, you didn't stand up for Stacey. Screw the kids. You know, that kind of thing. Yeah, exactly. Progress is progress. I mean, I'll go sit down and talk with anybody.

2:05:08 It doesn't matter to me. But this is what happens when you get out of line and you not when you're a free-thinking black man, this is what happens. And they all you should have, you should have, no, it was disgusting. And that's why I made it part of this show because they drug him on the left. They drug, how dare you, you know, y'all, we know you were a sellout. Y'all, you were a coon. And it's the same thing yesterday. I saw it crop up again. White people give an allowance to call a black man out of his name, and nobody is

2:05:45 called to the carpet on it. The rapper has not responded to 11 Alive about the backlash, but in some tweets today, here's what he had to say to his critics. In one tweet, he said, I'm a taxpayer and own businesses in Georgia. I'm checking up on my dollars at work, and I suggest all Georgians do the same. He also said that he sought counsel from longtime community activists, leaders, and business owners before the meeting to hear their concerns. I've heard him say a number of times that he doesn't really care what people think. He cares about the policies that are in place to support the African-American community and the city of Atlanta, where he was born and grew up on the west side.

2:06:24 And without those conversations, change can't happen. And Aisha was so interesting because the t-shirt he was wearing in that meeting with Governor Kemp said plot, plan, organize, strategize, mobilize, I think. And that's an exact phrase that he used when he was kind of reluctantly beside Keisha Mayor Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms. You know, when she asked him to come and speak to the city when some of the protests turned into vandalism. So he is active and says he will stay that way. So we can drag you out to be a political prop for the left, but if you want to go and do the work, I mean, that's what he was doing with Kemp sitting out having a conversation, seeing what he could do.

2:07:09 Literally doing the work. That's the way we know it's supposed to happen. Yes. It's no good. It's like, no, that's no good. You're a coon. You're a sellout. Oh, we knew Killer Maul. We knew he was going to be a sellout. And these are not, I mean, black people were co-signing it and black people were saying it, but it wasn't exclusively black people. And one thing that troubled me was you had to make calls and see if it was okay for you to go talk. What? Yeah. You're a grown man. Permission. Need permission. Got to check it out. And this is an 11-law report. And at the same time, they're reporting this, a couple weeks prior, they're reporting about 39 children found in Operation Not Forgotten.

2:07:53 The U.S. Marshals announced. announced this week the recovery of 39 children in an operation that covered Macon to Atlanta. During the scene, they arrested nine people, some charged with sex trafficking. It's welcome news to a local nonprofit that helps children 11 Alive to new hurricanes more. It's a problem lurking in many communities across Georgia: child sex trafficking and exploitation. This week, Operation Not Forgotten helped 39 children recovering 26 and safely locating 13 more. U.S. Marshals arrested nine criminal associates. Charges ranged from sex trafficking to registered sex offender violations.

2:08:33 The Marshals describe these children as considered to be some of the most at-risk and challenging recovery cases in the area. If we can save one child from a life of abuse or sex trafficking, we've done our job. And this operation did that for many, many children. Attorney General Chris Carr says oftentimes sex trafficking can be a hidden crime, one that lives in the shadows. Sarah Copen, the executive director of a local nonprofit called the Hope Box, says she's thankful for the hard work law enforcement and the state put into the operation in Macon and Atlanta. I am so proud of the state of Georgia for doing Operation Not Forgotten.

2:09:13 Copen says child sex trafficking is still a major problem as her organization continues to help with the recovering children. I would say we have doubled, if not tripled, our efforts in rescuing children. It's interesting you put this in here, and I'd heard you set it up, of course, with the strip clubs. Where are you taking me with this? I'm glad you asked that question. This is what resonates with black men. Ah, it does. Let me explain. Yeah. Let me explain. Poor Stacey, kill her mind.

2:09:51 Oh, how could you do that to Stacy? Bro, we're trying to save 39 children here. When you talk about defunding the police, this is going to become rampant. These 39 children won't be saved. I mean, we have to be sensible. And this is what's been lost. And this is what the sign of majority we've said in whispers. We say amongst ourselves. We have a real man has no tolerance for harming children at all. You can have the most hardened criminals, but at some point, it's like, nah,

2:10:32 that's not going to fly. Go look at the YouTube videos. And so when you talk about poor Stacy, how can you do this to her? We're trying to save children here. Defund the police. That doesn't go well for these kids. Couple of things. So, of course, I followed this story. And what bothers me about it, but I like this new context you've given to it. This came kind of at the just over the peak of the meme about the kids being shipped in Wayfair containers and

2:11:13 Instagram was going nuts about cabinets and going nuts about elites drinking baby blood for Adriena Chrome and everyone's all jacked about it and it's everyone on Epstein's jet and then all of a sudden U.S. federal marshals by the way so this is already coming and I believe it's it's you know these operations these are these are set in motion by President Trump he's he's he's the only president who's really talked about human trafficking this way specifically in our own country

2:11:50 no one fucking says anything then it's like silence crickets and there's pictures there's actual video of this taking place of these arrests and then kids who are who are being and some young some old who are being rescued from this horrible situation and and it's and it's it's i i have to say it's probably mainly white girls who are who are only focused on all the bullshit and the celebrity aspect but when something actual happens and there's a real arrest in europe there was it was like 3 000 no no one no one tweets no instagram posts no nothing

2:12:29 so it's well i'm gonna say bigger issue but yes it's a you probably you probably can't see it but we're going through the same thing in 2016 the spirit cooking came out about this same time piece of gate cropped up about this same time and it resonated through our community community, even though it didn't make it to the mainstream. Um, I'm gonna give you a little inside baseball. All right, my mom sent me a text: What's MK Ultra? And you, uh, this you replied with uh, don't worry, mom, it'll be all right.

2:13:15 No, what it talk, it showed me two things. It says, one, this spiritual politics is spilling over into the church. I mean, because my mom's all about church, yeah, and two, my mom hasn't been listening to a thing I said for the last 10 years. So it's not what mothers do, it's not what moms do. I know, I'm just saying, like, but what I'm just saying is, unprompted, right? She's text me this. What is this MK Ultra thing? And I'm so what I'm saying to you is the people, the quote-unquote black people care about children.

2:13:58 We care about these 39 children. We want the police to take these bad people away. And we can make the nuance between bad cops doing bad things and actually law and order. You know, there's a difference. And really, the Democrats have demonized law and order. Can I make an analogy just to see if I can feel this the way you feel it? Right. What I'm, you know, it's kind of the same way with the lockdowns and COVID-19 and the whole Rona situation, where we have a lot of people who know what's really going on, medical professionals, but also people inside the political process.

2:14:39 They really know what's happening. They know that there's a lot of other things than a virus going on and this being, you know, never let a crisis go to waste. But they don't, they're afraid. They're afraid to really speak up and speak out and say something about it for fear of retribution. Well, for all the reasons. Is that a little bit similar? Yeah, for fear of being called crazy. Let's just be honest. Or for fear of, yo, are you going to make the Democrats lose? Are you going to be the reason Trump gets re-elected? But the hypocrisy is so thick. Now, Killer Mike goes meets with Governor Kemp to try to save kids and get black men jobs and

2:15:24 address the criminal, the mass incarceration. But Michelle Obama could be all hugged up with George W. Bush getting her little candies and nobody says nothing. I tell you again, we are the sacrifice. We talked about on the last show. And I don't say, and like I said, this is not a death sentence. This is just, it is what it is. Now, how do we get back from here? How do we, you know, how do we stop being that? But you see, Killerman, he did what? He did the 2016 election. He was with Bernie. You're saying the last eight, what, last eight years he's dead,

2:16:07 you know, what, six, five, six years he's dedicated to politics, Democratic politics. And he goes, has one meeting and you just throw him, you sacrifice him. Let's just use the word saying, the other guy, I keep, I'm forgetting his name. The Congress, state congressman for Georgia. He's been a lifelong Democrat, but then he speaks up about just common sense things. You sacrifice him. These 39 children. Oh, Stacey comes before these 39 children. And when I say sacrifice, I don't mean it literally just yet. Just yet. Just yet. Not the actual sacrifice. Just yet.

2:16:51 But this problem of children being harmed, especially in our community, we addressed this on show eight with the homelessness and survival sex. Survival sex is an enormous issue, too. LGBT youths between the ages of 10 and 25 are 70% more likely to engage in survival sex, while 80% of homeless transgender youths are more likely to have engaged in survival sex than homeless cisgender youths. Now, what do we mean by survival sex? In principle, survival sex is part of the wider commercial sex trade.

2:17:34 People who engage in survival sex do so because they literally have no other way to survive. So they exchange sex for money. They exchange. exchange sex for shelter. They exchange it for food, clothing, or any other good, which is a necessity of life. Yeah, I remember this one. So these are the kind of children you want to neglect to save Stacey Abrams' feelings. And that's why Angela Stanton King is becoming a rock star. Let me say this. A lot of black people don't care what you do. I mean, and that's the biggest thing.

2:18:16 Oh, we're homophobia. No, we don't really care, but we should be allowed to have an opinion. But I mean, you do you, whatever you're into. But it's the children. And that's what she's harping on. It's the children that we have to protect. And we're seeing now that that's not the case. The children not being protected. And I think the Democrats are playing a losing style of politics. And I'll explain that more, but first we got to thank some people. Yes. And to do that, we always want to be reminded of the legendary words of Malcolm X.

2:19:01 First, the white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro. And the so-called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of the white man. Then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only way that they'll ever do it. And I got to say, we had a lot of that today. I always love talking with you, Mo, just asking questions like brothers, like brothers can do. Doing the work, doing the work, doing the work. I'm really doing the work.

2:19:38 Hey, we're going to thank our producers for episode 49 of Mo Facts with Adam Curry. And this is a value-for-value production, which means no commercials, no corporate interest. This wouldn't be on the air anywhere. We wouldn't be able to get any advertising because of the controversial nature because, oh, heaven forbid, these conversations are had, especially between a white man and a black man. It's crazy. So we rely on your time, talent, and treasure. It's the three T's. Lots of people do things for us when it comes to sound effects, jingles, clips, experiences.

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2:20:58 Thanks for the excellent value, fellas. Really enjoy all the clips. I think I'm the same age as Mo, so all the references are right up my alley, which makes Adam feel kind of old now for a moment. My wife and I just had a new baby boy, so we're doing some catch up on both No Agenda and MoFax. Thanks for delivering a quality product. Lots of people dig it. Can we trouble you for some Mo Karma for our new baby boy Ozzy? Well, of course you can. You've got MoCong. Cole Calistra, 133.33, a bunch of magic numbers in there. Mo and Adam, thanks so much for enlightening and entertaining me. When I heard you play a clip from people like us, I knew it was time to donate. Please D-deadbeat me.

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2:23:09 Any advice for a 25-year-old mixed race gal from London? Big love. Natasia. Natasia. What kind of advice do you think she's looking for? I would just say do the work and keep swimming. Keep swimming like the fish. Be in our school. Exactly. Thank you very much, Natasia. Brandon Colmar, first associate executive producer. No note, but $76. We appreciate that. Frankie G, $75. Big fan of the podcast. Enjoy all the great stuff you and Adam discuss. Anonymous, actually, anonymous, please, $75 as well. Thank you. Keep doing the work. $55, $10, double nickel and a dime from Daniel Hutner.

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2:24:32 Someone with some time and talent on their hands. And I did mention this on no agenda, but Joe and I spoke. We both were a little out of sync for the first 45 minutes. No headphones. It was all kinds of stuff. We'd been waiting for two and a half hours. And he graciously invited me for a do-over. So I think we'll wait a little bit, but I'll get to go back and maybe dive a little deeper into some of the topics. And who knows what'll be topical then? The country may be on fire. Thank you, Brian. Steve Allen, $50, no note, but we highly appreciate it. Actually, Steve comes in twice. Oh, he says, oh, this is interesting. So we'll actually be an executive producer.

2:25:16 Let me just mark this up here. So he sent $50 and then sent another $50, said, forgot to add a note. I love you guys. Look forward to plundering your archives for more brain-expanding goodness. I discovered you through Adam's last Joe Rogan appearance. You are a very patient man, Adam Curry. But referring to Joe, not to you, Mo. Don't worry. The best thing about the podcast was your shout out to Mo Fax. As a mixed race ADOS man, I feel like I had a form of this podcast running in my head for 40 years, and you guys really make my brain tingle. Can I get a Wusa? Of course you can, Steve. Big ass Wusa. I really, I'm so happy that people caught that. I'm happy that this,

2:26:03 if there wasn't a different thing every single 14 hours, you know, these things would stick around a little bit. I mean, even Joe, man, he had some, he had to apologize for something, and he must be, you know, counting his lucky stars that RBG went down because that story's gone. You know, it's just like this, even listening to you talk about the DNC and the RNC conventions. It seems like a lifetime ago, doesn't it? But that's the beauty of our show. We take our time. We let things breathe. Yeah. Develop. And then we come back around and talk about it once we have the full picture.

2:26:44 We're just not rationary and just jump on, latch on the thing. No, no, no. We're not podcasters. We're professionals. Theodora Dorinda Ugnena. $50 from Theodora. Thank you. Gunter Weber, Mo Fax Podcast, $50 for you. Thank you. Chef Elvis, Elvis Rosenberg, $50. Up next or next, after last. I'm not quite sure. Did I miss something of his note here? What happened? No, that's it. That's weird. I think I understand what he's saying, but I don't know. Well, the chef is a regular. He's a regular at our establishment. I think he's saying we're up next or at least next after the last person.

2:27:26 Okay, gotcha. Yeah. So those are our associate executive producers. We did the executive producers. And now we go to the rest of. rest of our supporters. Occult fan, 4949 in the morning. Mo, Sir Nathan Lee Miller, Foster, Chaotic, Good Night of the White Lodge, Blue Orchid of the Goldheart Mountaintop Queen Directory, Elfstone Bear of the Sword Reforged. My first name is Nathan Lee. My last name, Miller Foster. Four names besides my no agenda title. Nate is four letters. Mo, feel free to call me Nate if we're talking, if you're crediting me for a show with Sir Nathan Lee. Okay, we'll do that. So here's his note. Would you put me on the birthday list for September 22nd?

2:28:09 Wow. Well, okay. You're on it right now. You're good to go. We'll give you a little butter biscuit. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. This year, it's the equinox again, not always on this day. It was when I was born in 1984. He turns 36 this year. Mo, I'm sending you a Ras Ben video on the art and architecture in Philly. Did you receive? Yes, but I haven't had a chance to watch it yet. All right. It's a rabbit hole worth going to. Okay. Hey, Easy does it with Mo. You guys keep finding these rabbit holes, sending them down. I'm the worst offender. Aside from that, definitely look into Fear Inoculum by Tool, which came out six months before the Rona, how it both predicts and provides a way out.

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2:40:14 So I mentioned previously that the Democrats are running a losing brand of politics, especially with the so-called quote-unquote black people. And a case of that is removing God from the Pledge of Allegiance. There's a story that's breaking, actually, that you broke on specific Democratic caucuses reciting the Pledge of Allegiance at the virtual convention, leaving out the words under God. Let's take a listen. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. David, this seems to be a pattern. You broke another story on a related topic back in 2012. What's going on here?

2:40:58 Well, right. Back in 2012, we broke the story about those words under God being left or the word God being left out of the Democratic Party platform. Here, what you just saw there was the Democratic National Committee caucus. It was a Muslim Affairs caucus, a meeting that the DNC was holding this week. They left the words under God out, as you just heard. Also, the LGBTQ, or excuse me, LGBT caucus, that's what they call themselves at the DNC, also left the words under God out. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands: one nation,

2:41:40 indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. So, what's the point of putting that up? Well, a couple of things. First of all, let's put this all in context and be clear. The DNC on day one did go ahead and say the words under God in their pledge. That was on day one. They also said on day two in the general session. But in these smaller caucuses, they're not saying it, at least in these two instances. The point is that there's an underbelly of a progressive far left that the Democrats are going to have to deal with. And that's what's kind of driving the ship. Wow. I'm glad you got that clip because I didn't know the LGBTQ caucus. I knew. I didn't realize it was the Muslim group. group uh who who omitted the word god the first time yeah

2:42:24 that's kind of like you know what when we this whole show has just proven to me the democratic party has been dead for at least four years maybe longer it's been hijacked by numb nuts and idiots and really truly bigoted racist people who are just so out of control have no idea what they're doing they're just using levers they're pulling levers that jack with people's stuff all the time and it's going to end i think after this election everybody will be it will have to maybe a whole different party but none of these people can return none of them make sense anymore

2:43:05 and it i don't understand how a muslim caucus could leave out god when your caucus is created around your faith in god i i don't understand unless they had a bigoted bigoted god yeah i mean they could have said a la i mean exactly that would have been fine no it's a bunch of bigoted douchebags seriously and then the lgbtq i know a lot of gay men who are who are catholic who are very christian who go to church have found have found a church that is accepting of them a lot and you'd be surprised it's it's right i mean i ride churches all the time to have the the flag i mean

2:43:45 the um the uh lgbt flag on their you know on their church so i mean i don't understand what but i'm saying they're when this makes it out specifically i'm speaking specifically talking to the uh quote-unquote black uh especially the ados right a lot of our underpinnings is you know in the church or in faith i'm gonna say church let me correct that because i think the church is dying along with the structure yeah uh with with the democratic party and people are becoming more what like their relationship and that kind of thing but when you start these stories start to leak out with um

2:44:30 you're taking god out and then when you look back to 2012 and the whole party took god out of the platform yeah they're no good but they put it but didn't they put it back in didn't they the like a whole issue and then they slipped it back in because they the backlash was there i think something like let's listen to the clip and i'll explain to you how that whole thing thank you ah another alley some weird omissions from the uh democratic platform which no one can quite understand how or why this happened or what the intention was because all they should have done is rattle cages which didn't need to be rattled no mention of the word god even though there was last time and there is about 10 times in the

2:45:10 republican platform why is that well we we have a commitment through all faith traditions that our values are reflected in our policy and that means that we should look out for the least of these that we should fight for the middle class that we should help everyone in america have an opportunity to be successful but was the word god deliberately taken out or was it a mistake oh of course not of course not we have a platform that actually reflects the values of many faith traditions and it's the policy thing is somebody has deliberately taken out the word god because it was in the last one i can assure you that no one has deliberately taken god out of our platform so it's an accident

2:45:52 what i can tell you is that our policies and our values are reflected are you being put in many faith traditions and that's what our platform is all about that's pierce morgan that's hilarious with debbie washman schultz the jew yeah yep exactly hilarious which she which is her identity is a large i mean her faith is a large part of her identity um but now you asked me a question did they take you know did how that went they snuck it out and then they had a vote which i had the clip but it was not the audio was poor and this is how it went down they said you know they do the i and then the nays and the vote and it has to be

2:46:39 two-thirds majority to to you know to accept it and the nays i had it i remember this by far and they went and it's passed yeah and the guy well they the first i mean he had to do it three times because he looked over and he was like they don't want to put god back in and he was like uh and then he asked again and then he asked for a third time and then he was like finally yeah the odds have it god goes back in i remember that oh man there's so much that goes down that we forget it's so easy i'm like joe biden with this right? But the thing is,

2:47:17 when you start talking about Pizzagate, when you start talking about these kids being harassed, and a lot of a good portion of our community are truthers or conspiracy, subscribe to conspiracy theories. That's historical plot. Culturally historical, this conspiracy theory thinking. Well, I mean, we're conspiratorial because I mean, a lot of things that we've got to say. You've had some conspiracies against you. Yeah. Oh, yeah, like they've been giving us bad medicine down at Tuskegee.

2:47:56 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That was a conspiracy until it came out. I mean, so yeah. I would say Truth Seekers is more appropriate than conspiracy. Right. Right. So, yeah, you're correct. So when we see these things crop up, you're taking God out and then it comes crops back up again. You're taking God out of the Pledge of Allegiance. That was hilarious. And that was the one from this year is from the CBN, which they have a good, you know, ADOS following on the Christian Broadcast Network. So this thing started to get legs. Right. So it's, I think the Democrats got wind of this and they tried to bring some preachers in to pray.

2:48:40 Oh, goodness. So the first one is Mark Moore Jr. And he prayed, he does the closing prayer for the DNC of the Black Caucus. Eternal God, Father of Abraham, Isaac, and Breonna Taylor. Before we asked you for anything, we want to thank you. That was unexpected. And why only Brianna? Why only her? Oh, my goodness. Let's do that. Wow. Eternal God, Father of Abraham, Isaac, and Brianna Taylor.

2:49:17 Before we ask you for anything, we want to thank you for everything. Thank you for the incredible men and women that have spoken truth to power over the course of this week. Thank you for giving an entire generation and people a heart and a vision to mobilize and take back what's ours this fall. Thank you that you're allowing those that have opposed justice and truth and righteousness to realize that their time has come to an end. And God, as we look now to move forward from the incredible speeches and the incredible motivational charges that we've received over the last few days, God, we're asking that you will anoint us anew, anoint us afresh, give us a heart and a desire to see change take place.

2:50:05 Lord, we're thanking you and asking you now that you will not allow us to be comfortable simply tweeting about it. We're asking that you will no longer allow us to be comfortable simply posting Instagram posts and Facebook statuses about change, but help us to become the change that we want to see. God, anoint our hands so that they can do the work that will bring about real transformation this fall. Anoint our heads so that we can think of strategies and mobilize in order to do what needs to be done. Anoint our feet with strength and renewed energy to put the work in as we go about securing a better future for our families, our communities, and our people.

2:50:44 Oh my goodness. Let me point out a couple of things before I make my comments. One, I'm aware, touch not my anointed. I get that. But when you start politicizing the church, and I'm going to say this, this goes for both sides. When Trump went up to the church in DC and they put the shawl on him and, you know, it's this disgusting thing they do where they all lay hands on him. We saw Obama do it, you know, and then we saw Donald Trump. Well, the preachers get around, they lay their hands on the preacher. I don't like that. I don't think there's a reason that church and state is separated. But that's also the family, you know, that's

2:51:29 that group that we talked about the family, right? Right, right, right, right. So that's a whole, that's a whole nother. Go listen to that. What episode was that, Mo? We talked about that. I don't remember. Sorry about that. Getting up there. But what I'm saying is, and then you, God of Isaac, Abraham, Isaac, and Breonna Taylor, it's like, what? Don't don't do that. So now I'm going to say this. Then you throw in doing the work and go, oh, don't just post on Instagram. I don't like this. No. And it smacks of being disingenuous and.

2:52:12 my people are not dumb. We see what's happening here. And the Democratic Party knows, hey, we got this. We got to get out from under this, taking God out the platform and taking God out of the Pledge of Allegiance. So we got to, you know, saying we got to, and we know the relationship with the black pastor and movements. We know this. Going back to Margaret Sanger, if you want to, if you want to get the blacks to do something, get the preachers. And it's like, no other time with the Democrats any I will give I will say this The Republicans at least make the evangelicals part of their platform and their whole structure of their party.

2:52:57 I still don't like it. I mean, I can say I'm a separation of church and state kind of person. But you only bringing these people in as like, you know, we need a preacher. Go get a preacher. You know, we got to hustle. And then they right. And that, and like I said, he's doing it at the black caucus. Another preacher, and I'm sure you heard this one. And this is a long clip. You can stop it when you want to. It's two minutes, but I just want you to listen to the cadence and just play the clip. This is the age of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor in their name.

2:53:39 We need bold policies that will transform our policing system so that we reimagine public safety. We have to have bold policies that insist that health care is not just a privilege for the few at the top, but it is a right for all of God's children. We need to have bold policies, bold policies that determine that we are going to put an end to environmental racism, which is right there on the front lines of climate change, which has our planned in.

2:54:17 I see you. We need some Democrats with a backbone who will have the courage and the compassion to recognize the wisdom of Jesus because Jesus said a nation will be judged by how it treats the least of these. And right now, I remix Jesus because Jesus would look at this and Jesus would say, I was hungry and you cut aid to dependent children. Did a lightning bolt come down and strike him when he was doing this? He slapped him right on the head. This is all political. Is there a test

2:54:57 to be a preacher? To become a preacher. Is there a test? You have ordained ministers that go to seminary. And there's levels to it. And then you have these guys are trained. Oh, yeah. They actually go to seminary and get on. I'll say this. It's the ones that actually some of the realest ones are the ones that come up just naturally. I mean, just gravitate towards the faith because they didn't get indoctrinated at these universities with these political leanings. And who was this? Who was this speaking? This is Dr. Frederick D. Haynes. It's only 50 more seconds. Let's listen to the talk. Might as well.

2:55:42 You would not give me a living wage. I was thirsty and you contaminated water in Flinton, Michigan and other impoverished communities around this nation. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Is he talking to God or is he talking to the Republicans now? What is he doing? Let me just. I don't know. He did this for eight years. I want to hear the transition. Hold on. No, excuse me. He did it for 14 minutes and 21 seconds straight. I was hungry and you cut aid to dependent children and you would not give me a living wage. I was thirsty and you contaminated water in Flinton, Michigan and other impoverished communities around this nation.

2:56:23 I was sick, but I did not have access to affordable health care and COVID-19 took me out. I was in prison because of mass incarceration and a criminal justice system that was criminal and downright unjust. I was a stranger and you had the nerve to build a wall while at the same time you have in the harbor there in New York, the statue of liberty saying, give me your tired, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free. Now, it would be, you know what, this is what Joe Biden should talk like this or Kamala, you know, because it's the same words of saying the same thing.

2:57:04 It's just in a different way. different, it's in a cadence that makes you feel like it's all important. And that's, and that's why they're tear under Hillary, because at least she has no way. Oh, man, man, man. You'll never hear Trump do that. No. He just goes, he just says, where's my African American? There he is. Or he sounds like The Rock. Exactly. Let me tell you something, brother. I just love it when he says, where's my African American? There he is.

2:57:44 But as he's doing this, I can't take any more of that. But as he's doing this, they flash across the screen to donate text push to 41444 on some straight-up TBN style. You know, I'm like, what? What is going on here? Like I said, this is another example of the Democratic Party being out of touch. And they don't understand. It's not even out of it. It's not even out of touch, Moe. They have this magical. I think the people who are running this who say, okay, let's put this together. I don't think this is like a black caucus. No, this is Nancy Pelosi. And she thinks this is how it's supposed to be because I've seen it.

2:58:27 That's what a black church is like. Right. Like I said, it's sick. I don't know. But can you play like the last man? What are we at? Well, I think we got. Did you clear the clip already? No, I commanded. Hey, man, who are you talking to here? Yeah, just run the last because I want to make a point on this next clip. Okay. I'll just give you the last 10. Oh, the mass is yearning to breathe free. Jesus will say, America, if you don't get your act together, you may well go to hell. Oh, thank you. I know that line.

2:59:06 Uh-huh. I know that line. It was somebody that was condemned for using the same kind of rhetoric in 08. What was his name again? I think it was the Reverend Jeremiah Wright who did that. And the United States of America government, when it came. Holy crap, it's the same guy, Mo. Hold on. I gotta play. I gotta play. I gotta play. Oh, that's good. You dirty rat bastard. You knew that, didn't you? You knew it. You knew it. You knew it. All right, hold on. I'm gonna play him back to back. All right, DJ in the mix. To breathe free, Jesus will say, America, if you don't get your act together,

2:59:46 you may well go to hell. And the United States of America government, when it came to treating her citizens of Indian descent fairly, she failed. She put them on reservations. When it came to treating her citizens of Japanese descent fairly, she failed. She put them in internment prison camps. When it came to treating the citizens of African descent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains. The government put them on slave quarters, put them on action auction blocks, put them in cotton fields, put them in inferior schools, put them in substandard housing, put them in scientific experience, experiments, put them in the lowest paying jobs, put them outside

3:00:33 the equal protection of the law, kept them out of their racist bastions of higher education and locked them into positions of hopelessness and helplessness. The government gives them the drugs, them bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law, and then wants us to sing God bless America. No, no, no. Not God bless America. God damn America that's in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating her citizens as less than human. God damn America, as long as she tries to act like she is God and she is supreme.

3:01:15 Oh, so first of all, to respond to this, because you have played this clip in this context for me before. And when I heard the whole clip in context, that was episode 44. When I heard the whole clip in context, I was like, no, the guy's not really an asshole. What he's saying is completely true. And if you hear it all in context, but it was clipped. And it was interesting because there was outrage, of course, from the Republicans, outrage, of course, from select evangelicals based upon, I think, just the clip. But the Democrats cowered up like a little shriveled snake, too. They went, oh, yeah, shh, we got it. And Obama hit it. He's like, I don't want to know about it. Another black man sacrificed.

3:01:59 And now, and now. it's, do you think that they didn't know, or this guy slipped in? I mean, he's using the same words. No, what I'm saying is, if you're doing it for our benefit, cool. But if you can cost us something, we've got to sacrifice you. Same thing they did with Killer Mike. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Wow, that's a good one. Thanks, Mo. That was funny. That was really cool. I got to mix it up. That was nice. And to speak on the sacrifice that I'm speaking on, just for people like, what is more talk about sacrifice? Let's go back and listen to Reverend Ian Whitema from last show, throwback clip from 48, talking about the ritual sacrifice.

3:02:40 So, this lecture focuses on the ritual sacrifice of black men in particular as an instrument for creating a cohesive and unified body of people called white. So, in this development of the screen of racial contempt that I'm calling the first stage of sacrifice, while it certainly includes the murder of African Americans, it was the murder of their humanity in the eyes of European Americans that was sacrificed in the development of white identity. More than just debasement, it was the symbolic murder of their identities offered up in order to engender another identity.

3:03:22 So, Rene Girard writes: The purpose of sacrifice is to restore the harmony to community, to reinforce the social fabric, and that the common denominator that exists behind all sacrifice is internal violence. And the dissensions, the rivalries, the jealousies, and the quarrels of the community by design are suppressed by sacrifice. Wow. Yeah. So, now look at that in the context of Reverend Wright. I'm getting killed. He was sacrificed to restore harmony. Right. I mean, we use cancel, but what I'm just saying is

3:04:04 it's deeper than that. Because anytime, like you said, he was causing riffs. They clipped him up and that, you know, and it sound bite, goddamn America. And they're like, Obama, you got to cut him loose. And Obama sat in his church for years and he didn't say, well, you know, let's look at this and let's listen. Nope. Got to go. I don't know him. Just like Peter. Just like Peter did Christ. You say, like, you deny me three times. Yeah, yeah. Wow. That's right. And even if they don't, even if they don't sacrifice you, you're going to be, you're saying, put into a role of the concu serf. I got to give all credit to, I got to do this.

3:04:49 Whenever a term is coined, I always give credit to that person. This is Dr. T. Hassan Johnson defining what a concu serf is. So as you can see today, we're talking about the reality of Black men's disposable role as concuserfs. I've covered this in another show. The whole concept of concuserfs is a bringing together of two basic ideas, the concubine and the serf. And this in many ways has to do with the social expectation of black men, both in the larger society, but more particularly within black America. The idea that black men are not only disposable, but their roles are to serve as sexual concubines as well as serfs, right? Who are really just designed to serve. You lift, bear that tote, so on and so forth.

3:05:33 The disposability, right? So the idea of the concu serf and how our lives and our deaths can be taken for granted. We don't talk as much about our lives because there's all kinds of contestation and shaming that goes on. We talk about what black men experience in their own community, right? But even but it's clearly evident in our deaths how we're perceived and how our deaths are often used for everybody's advancement but black men themselves. And one of the biggest indicators of that is how much policy has been developed in the last few decades to stem the tide of those deaths, right? Very little. And yet and still the social expectations play on. The concu serf, yep.

3:06:16 The concu serve. So early on in the show, and we heard it a couple of times throughout the show, say their name, say their name. Even with Breonna Taylor, I mean, she's not a black man, but she's being used to say their name. It's a reason why they're saying that. 38. You know, and by tradition, you offer things that your loved one who passed away with what, you know, whether it's like honey or tobacco, things like that.

3:06:53 And that's. it's so important, not just for us to be in direct relationship to our people who've passed, but also for them to know they've, we've remembered them. We should be honoring them in all the ways, whether it's protesting through art, you know, through putting up signs on the freeway. Like we, they want us to remember them because they know what it is. They know, they know what it takes for us to be, for them to be remembered. So it's, it's a, it's a very important practice. Um, hashtags are, for us, are way more than a hashtag. It is literally almost resurrecting a spirit

3:07:38 to us to get the work that we need to get done. Okay, before you tell me exactly the context of this, I am a really strong believer in memes and hashtags. I don't really think of not a big hashtag fan at all, but I do know how they work and I know they're very effective if used properly. These things actually do do things to people. Memes, especially, do stuff. So who is this? Is this some kind of sorceress? No, this is Patrice Colors from Black Lives Matter. Oh, a sorceress. I was right. Well, we use the term witch, but I gave you a visual A, and I'll probably be posting it to my Twitter later. Oh, my God.

3:08:20 I'm putting it in the show notes, but I'll do it in a hidden thing because it's too jarring just to look at it. Right. She's at, they did this thing called a prayer for the runner, and that was for Amar Aubrey. Where, I mean, then she did this whole like, they're summoning. She's like wings. She's spreading her wings and what the hell is going on? Yeah, it's this weird. I don't know. It's this weird form of, and you can go find the clip. It's a whole unit. Go look. And look, guess who it's sponsored by? UCLA. Yeah, well, if you asked Johnson Dvorak, he'd say, oh, yeah, it doesn't surprise me.

3:09:01 It's UCLA. Right. So if you want to go to YouTube, it's a prayer for the runner by Patrice Colors. And it's basically like necromancy. And the reason why I'm bringing this A to each zone, if you, what do you believe? But the large amount of voters that are black or so-called black are leaning towards Christian faith or some other type, you know what I'm saying? What do you want to say? Abrahamic faith. You don't say Muslim or, you know, but mostly Christian.

3:09:39 If this gets out, which it is, and that's why I brought up what my mom was saying about MK Ultra, these things are making their way, making their rounds. And I saw this thing crop up the same. This is Pizzagate 2.0. This is Spirit Cooking 2.0. And don't ever underestimate the impact in these critical areas. Like we talked about these pockets in Detroit and Philadelphia. Right. When they hear about this, when it's doing the rounds, and they're like, okay, stay away from all that. It gives you even another reason to do something else on Tuesday. It's like, you know,

3:10:20 and I'm going to tell you this: Black people are a little, the devil, witches, witchcraft, and I'll just give you a little inside baseball and we can wrap up here. My grandmother stopped being friends with a woman of 20 years because she thought she put a root on her. And a root is like a spell. It comes from hoodoo. Cold. I don't mess with Amarine no more, child. And all she put that root on me, I put that root. No. And you know, this Black Lives Matter is going to run flat real quick. I want to meet. I want to meet your mom so bad now.

3:10:59 And I lay some MK Ultra stuff on her. Man, I'm trying to tell you, she said, I ain't up with a devil, child. Exactly what you're going to say. So, no, when this gets to, and, and then it's out, though. I mean, it's out, Mo. I mean, I've seen it. It's come across my timelines. I've seen it. I mean, not this one, but other stuff and some videos. And I think there's her admitting some other things. Well, this is obviously her. And just, she's the co-founder of Black Lives Matter. Everyone needs to know that. And I'm saying this in the context of politics. Whatever you believe, you believe. Some people might think what I believe is crazy.

3:11:42 You know what I'm saying? But it's your belief. But when I'm saying in the scope of politics, and you already have a fragile. fragile situation with the quote-unquote ADOS, quote unquote black crowd, this could split, this could sink your boat. Well, hold on a second. I want to, because everything we've learned in the past three hours. We see we're going to reprogram black men and all these things that have to be done. And then the way they go about it, somehow they believe that by removing Christianity basically from the equation or

3:12:30 mixing it up to such a degree. I mean, the Republicans use Christianity and faith all the time. But you saw it throughout the entire convention. But this is a structure thing with the Republicans. It's a structure. Order, that kind of thing. But why would you try to undermine or try to mind control? Do they maybe? Okay, here it is. Sorry. Real-time processing. Do they believe that the problem with these black men in particular is God? And if we remove that, then they'll come to our side. I'll ask you with scripture. You have to tie a strong man up before you plunder his house.

3:13:14 Yeah. That's right. So that short question. Yes. We have to, we, we, no man in the house. We've had a run at him for 40 years. We could teach them anything they want to. And now that that's why I said this is bigger than votes. This is bigger than the election. This is much bigger than the election. Much, much bigger than the election. Oh, wow. Okay. And we'll wrap up with the final clip. Right. You said a lot of things important, but you said something important about remembering them. And I also feel that even beyond remembering them, we're invoking them, right?

3:13:57 So this is an invocation, right? This is a recognition that, but what's happened as we invoke these names is the invocation of their names that goes beyond remembering them. But also in our tradition, when we call out our ancestors, we call them out for specific purposes. You know, the first thing that we do when we hear of a murder is we come out, we pray, we pour a libation, we build with the community where this person's life was stolen. And it took almost a year for me to realize that this movement is much more than a racial and social justice movement.

3:14:38 At its core, it's a spiritual movement. And I know you always had this spiritual practice. I remember like when we first started, I remember us going to the ocean and doing these rituals and really feeding our spirit. But I don't remember it being so deeply embedded in all that we did in 2013 as opposed to where we came in 2014. Spirituality is at the center of Black Lives Matter. And I think that's not just for us. I feel like so many leaders and so many organizers are deeply engaged in a pretty important spiritual practice.

3:15:25 Well, you know what we need? We need a snappy name. You know, we had Pizzagate. And we need a snappy name for this, you know, like BLM Spirit Gate. That's not the right one, but I'm just. And even the BLM, even it, even be, and I'm going to tease here for a later day. Even the BLM and Chaos Magic, you remove all the vows. That stands for Balaam. I'm sorry. B-A-L-A-A-M. Balaam. Yeah, but you said chaos magic. I like that. Yes.

3:16:02 I mean, that's part of what they believe in. And then that type of magic, you cross when you're doing your spells, whatever, you cross out all the vows. Okay. And you left when you cross out all the vowels in Balaam, you left with BLM. The lends to what you're talking about, these hashtags and these memes. Oh, damn. Oh, stop it, Mo. Stop it. Oh, my. I should have given you a tart warning. I'm sorry. Oh, my goodness. Okay. Thank you for that. Blew my mind a couple times here at the end of the show. Wait a minute. Could you do me a favor? Could you ask your mom, how do we combat that root she's putting on everybody, not your mom, but the.

3:16:44 these BLM stuff. This there's got to be, I mean, what, what, what, certainly there's something we can do. I can tell you what my mama is going to say. That's what I want to hear. You got to plead the blood of Jesus. You got to plead the blood of Jesus. You know what I'm saying? Like I said, I don't want to make this a religious talk. No, not at all. I'm going to tell you what, miss. I'm going to tell you what mama gonna say. That's what she's a child. You got to plead the blood of Jesus. Plead. That's exactly what she's going to say. Yes. And I'm telling you, when my mom was going to vote, COVID, everything, she was going to vote. But if she hears something like this, she's done. I don't know. And that's what it's like.

3:17:26 Here's a recommendation. Mom, that stuff, that's MK Ultra. Which it technically is, because you look at it dwelling multiple spirits in one body. But I mean, I digress on the DID. Oh, my goodness. But yeah. Okay. So, so here's what we learned a lot, but I think the, and this was a good eye-opener for me. All this, this is the most important election, most important thing, bull crap. This is what's happening behind the scenes here. And this is really for the United States, but we're foam finger number one. And once again, the black man in America is going to lead the charge.

3:18:06 He's going to hold the door open, but I think this time we're going to come in and we're going to surround him. We're going to help him. Because this is something similar will happen in every country around the world. This Black Lives Matter stuff applies to so many countries in similar fashion. Black Pete's in the Netherlands, you know, the Aborigines in Australia. It's everywhere there's this issue, and we may be the first ones to confront it. And, you know, and so if we go in and we plead the blood of Jesus and we and we do something about this and expose it, the empowerment, the empowerment and the energy that will be unleashed from this group that has had a fuck Mo, like a 60-year awakening,

3:18:53 slow process to say, hey, I'm going to sit this one out. And next time around, maybe we'll have some better deals. And I'll wrap on this. We have to look at the connection with the NBA, with the Bit Black Lives Matter on the court that's held at Disney and Disney's past. All of this stuff is connected. And if you want to have a good chuckle, go look at some early Shirley Temple movies. I mean, it will freak you out. And that just, okay, Mo, I'm so happy to be your friend. I'm happy you're my friend.

3:19:38 This is incredibly educational. I really love this. And if you loved it, listening to this podcast for the past couple hours, you could have spent your time doing something else. A lot of people seem to enjoy what comes out of this, the conversation between just two American dudes trying to figure stuff out. Then please consider supporting us at mofax.com. Go straight to that donation page at mofundme.com, M-O-E-F-U-N-D-M-E.com. And yeah, we look forward to, well, we'll see you next time, episode number 50, which should be a doozy. And as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. And with that, Mo, have yourself a great weekend, my friend. And we'll talk again next week.

3:20:24 All right. Talk to you later, Adam. All right, everybody. You take care and be here in a week or so for another Mo Facts with Adam Curry. Stretch my hands to you.