Topic: Mafia

The "Boule phone" is described as a mechanism of social control where influential figures are used to deliver warnings to others. Mo Facts claims Sammy Davis Jr. was used by organized crime to warn Sam Cooke to stop trying to start his own record label. Cooke's refusal to adhere to these warnings is presented as a possible motive for his death.

Quincy Jones expresses his disapproval of boycotts, stating they offer no solutions. He recounts his time on the Academy's executive committee, where he helped change rules to allow artists like The Beatles, Prince, and Three 6 Mafia to win Oscars. The hosts note that Jones represents an older, more established "Boule" approach to institutional change compared to modern hashtags.

Quincy Jones discusses his childhood in Chicago, claiming he wanted to be a gangster and was associated with the "Jones Boys" gang. He describes a world of dead bodies, Tommy guns, and piles of money. The hosts argue that Jones' "gangster" values have persisted throughout his career in the "gangster business" of music and media.

The discussion defines the "trap" as a one-way-in, one-way-out environment where the drug trade and music production are inextricably linked. A distinction is made between drugs sold for profit, such as crack and pills, and drugs consumed by the producers and artists, primarily "lean" (codeine cough syrup) and marijuana. The influence of the Black Mafia Family (BMF) is noted as a significant factor in the influx of money and the professionalization of the rap scene.

The legend of "Big Meach" and the Black Mafia Family (BMF) is explored, including their alleged invention of "making it rain" by throwing massive amounts of cash in clubs. BMF is described as a national drug ring that operated with a "Robin Hood" image in their communities, even using winning lottery tickets to launder money. The hosts discuss the cultural idolization of Meach, who remains a legendary figure in hip-hop despite his life sentence in federal prison.