Wednesday, 11 January 2023

89: Mass Confusion

A deep dive into the psychological architecture of mass fear, the rebranding of global supremacy, and the historical engineering of the American education system.

By Moe Factz with Adam Curry | 3h 19m listen | 53 chapters
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About this episode

The Netherlands recently acknowledged its historical role in the transatlantic slave trade, sparking a global debate on reparations and the export of historical guilt. This admission coincides with the emergence of mass formation psychosis, a psychological theory popularized by Matthias DeSmet and Robert Malone to explain collective compliance during the COVID-19 pandemic. The hosts analyze how authority figures weaponize isolation and free-floating anxiety to enforce a single solution, effectively turning scientific consensus into a mandatory religion.

Systemic control mechanisms extend beyond health mandates into the legal and digital realms. Neely Fuller Jr. defines white supremacy as a global power structure that rebrands itself as white privilege to avoid confrontation, while Jordan Maxwell’s theories on maritime law suggest that birth certificates and social security numbers transform individuals into corporate entities. The episode details how the FAA’s NOTAM system change from Airmen to Air Missions and the rise of AI-driven linguistic violence represent a broader effort to rewrite history. Additional focus is placed on the death of Diamond from Diamond and Silk, the decline of the Golden Globes, and the logistics of fentanyl distribution via the military-industrial complex.

Adam Curry and Mo Facts examine the legacy of Julius Rosenwald and the Tuskegee Institute, contrasting Booker T. Washington’s self-sufficiency with the social engineering of the Rockefeller Foundation. The hosts reflect on the 19-year history of independent podcasting as a sanctuary for authenticity against the sanitized narratives of mainstream media. From the Challenger explosion to the Damar Hamlin distraction, the segment captures the human cost of groupthink and the persistent effort to maintain dignity in a system designed for mass confusion.


CHAPTER 01 / 53 Discussion

Mo Facts Episode 89, United States of Fear

Adam Curry and Mo Facts open episode 89 from Texas and Northern Virginia respectively. They discuss technical difficulties and personal updates, including Adam's recovery from oral surgery. The hosts introduce the primary theme for the episode titled "The United States of Fear."

adam curry· mo facts· texas· northern virginia· oral surgery

00:22 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for January 11th, 2023. It's episode 89, a new year. That means more fresh facts for all of us. I'm Adam Curry coming to you from the heart of the Texas country. And time once again to spin that wheel of topics from here to Northern Virginia. Please say hello to my friend on the other end, ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Mo Facts. Hello, Moe. How you doing? How you doing, Adam? Did I lose you there? Do we have a super delay or what's going on? I actually had the mute button on. I was doing my stretch. You know, sometimes we say what? Sometimes we are so amazed by the forces that try to stop this show from happening.

01:07 It's crazy. How many times have we had something go wrong with this just to try and get something going? Too many to count. And it's inexplicable as well. Yeah, it is. Happy New Year to you, Mo. How's everything going? Everything's going well. How about yourself? Yeah, I'm good. You know, I'm still hanging in there with the oral surgery and everything. Moving ahead, trying not to sliss and whistle too much. But yeah, I'm good, man. It's been a good start to the year. And I am very excited for another Mo Facts with Adam Curry. I think you are, as well as myself and everybody else. So I guess we can go ahead and get to the wheel. All right.

01:47 Let's roll it then, shall we? Round and round it goes. Where it stops, nobody knows. What is the topic for episode 89 of Mo Facts with Adam Curry? Well, let's find out here. It is the United States of Fear. The United States of fear. Okay, that could be a very broad topic for sure. All right. So during the whole COVID situation, what has been three years now? Two and a half, three years? It'll be three, yeah, three years in February, March, I guess. Yeah, coming up on three. This term mass formation psychosis cropped up. And I think in doing so,

CHAPTER 02 / 53 Discussion

Dutch Slave Trade History and Global Reparations

The Netherlands has recently acknowledged its historical role in controlling ships used in the transatlantic slave trade. This discovery has led to official apologies and ongoing discussions regarding reparations. The hosts note how these historical records are being "discovered" and exported as a global social issue.

netherlands· slave trade· reparations· ships· history

02:30 it pointed out a lot about race. And I know people are always talking about, oh, you always talk about race. You're always talking about race. I think race is the biggest issue, the biggest wedge. Oh, and probably the big... Go ahead. Oh, no. First of all, absolutely. I mean, this is now, as we predicted, this is now moved to the Netherlands where I grew up. Now, I don't know if you saw any of those reports, but of course I followed that having grown up there. So now they've discovered, they've discovered that the Dutch actually controlled a lot of the ships that sailed the slaves.

03:09 All of a sudden, they discovered that. And now they're talking reparations. You know, there's apologies. Like, oh, we have to have, you know, I mean, it's mind-boggling to me how this has been exported to the rest of the world. I'm glad you brought up that point of discover because in the world of having great records and societies known for keeping great records, all of these things are currently being quote-unquote discovered. Discovered. Yeah, it's beautiful, isn't it? So what I want to do is take some terms head on. We're going to talk about words, why words matter. And

CHAPTER 03 / 53 Discussion

Mass Formation Psychosis, Matthias DeSmet and Robert Malone

Professor Matthias DeSmet originally developed the theory of mass formation to explain collective behavior during the COVID-19 pandemic. Dr. Robert Malone later added the term "psychosis" during an interview on the Joe Rogan Experience, which the hosts describe as an inflammatory addition. Google reportedly censored search results for the term, leading users to alternative search engines like DuckDuckGo.

mass formation· matthias desmet· robert malone· joe rogan· google

03:51 this thing, when I say white supremacy, I can see people cringe. I can feel them cringe because it's like we have this misconception of what it is and what the system I'm talking about. So I want to talk about that once again in a scientific approach because when you break it down to a system and not feelings towards people between people, you can make some headway. So once again, going back to mass mass formation psychosis, I think that was a, we like recognize the elephant in the room, right?

04:30 There's one thing I want to add to that because this is a theory which was birthed into the world by Professor Matthias DeSmet. He's a Belgian professor of psychology. He also has a degree in, I think, statistics, which is what got him started a little under like two and a half years ago. He was saying, hold on a second. These statistics aren't right. And what is happening with people? Why are they all acting this way? The one thing. thing I need to point out is that it is officially called mass formation. The psychosis part was added by Dr. Malone. And I personally think that's a little inflammatory and perhaps a misnomer.

05:15 Neither here nor there, the concept of mass formation is the same. Well, that's an important point you bring up because however you shape terms and add to or take away from, it can become inflammatory or dismissive or accusatory or however you want to look at it. Agreed. So, oh, I'm glad you pointed that out, that the original term and then what was added to it. And so we're going to get into the first clip to just go over how this term was rolled out and how it was received. Kim, what's on your radar? Well, the term mass formation psychosis trended over the weekend with so many searches, it broke the internet.

05:57 When people went to search for the term on Google, a couple of strange things happened. Some people saw this odd disclaimer from Google saying the results were changing quickly and that it would take time for results to be added by reliable sources. What does this even mean? I thought when you Googled something, it would bring up sites relating to the topic. Why would Google need time to add results by quote-unquote reliable sources? Sounds like they're censoring search results. Well, a few hours later, when people searched for the term, a bunch of sites began to pop up claiming it was a new far-right buzzword or one attributed to anti-vaxxers. Well, it's very difficult to find any information using Google. So I had to turn to DuckDuckGo in order to find any relevant information.

06:37 So what is mass formation psychosis? Well, the term came recently from the Joe Rogan Dr. Robert Malone interview that aired this past Friday, but was also heard and explained in more detail during Dr. Peter McCullough's interview with Rogan. I'm just going to have to add this. I really think Malone added psychosis because he then also said, and that's how you get Hitler. And that is not at all what mass formation suggests. So it was inflammatory and it did happen. And in fact, I went on Rogan's show a couple weeks later and said, dude, that was inflammatory, what he said there.

CHAPTER 04 / 53 Discussion

Mask Mandates and the Psychology of the Other

A host recounts feeling like an "outsider" or "the other" for refusing to wear a mask at a Whole Foods during the pandemic. This experience is compared to the "double consciousness" theory described by W.E.B. Du Bois regarding the Black experience in America. The segment explores how propaganda weaponizes feelings of exclusion to enforce social compliance.

covid-19· mask mandates· w.e.b. du bois· double consciousness· whole foods

07:17 So anyway, it doesn't matter. It's as far as the public is concerned. It is the title is Mass Formation Psychosis Now. And the genesis of this show for me was when we had a conversation, I think right when COVID first started, and you told me about you wearing a mask. Oh, yeah. And when you didn't first wear your mask, how you felt different or being looked at differently. And that was because for the first time in my life, well, yeah, for the first time really consciously in my life, I was looked at differently or I felt I was going to be looked at differently by people because of exterior characteristics.

08:06 And that was the fact that I was not going to wear a mask going into Whole Foods. And the key point is feel. That's the key point, not what reality is, because a lot of stuff with COVID is not based in reality, but it's how people can make you feel, how it's being weaponized to make you feel unincluded, if that's a word. Yeah. Or outsider. You felt like an outsider when you didn't have your mask on. I sure did. So I think that was

08:43 a great opportunity for everyone that didn't wear a mask, that didn't want to wear a mask to feel what it kind of feels like to be the other. And the other in America is being black. That's the default other. There's a couple of others, but that's definitely the default, yes. And it's the things that you can see and can't see. And this is why when people compare like the LGBT to being black, it's like you have the option to not, you know what I'm saying, be not to have your other out on the outside. That's the difference. So that's the way we're going at with the show.

09:28 It's just got to hang in there with me. Not you, but everybody else, because I'm always scared. If we came by my fingernails, Moe, I'm always scared, brother. If we can understand the formation of that mindset, the same way that they took something that we didn't do six months ago, at the time you didn't wear the mask, prior to that, it would be normal not to wear a mask. And then six months later with propaganda and news pushing it, it's now that, oh, you're an outsider or you're an other. other or all the thing, oh, you're a mouth breather or all these pejoratives that's tied to it. You must be dumb. You don't believe the science. You're a science denier, you're anti-vaxxer. All that was tied to you not wearing your mask.

10:10 Correct. And also, I'm going to kill you. That's another thing. It's like, it's like, just me walking around without the mask is going to kill everybody. I mean, it was, yeah, there was so it actually evoked, or it should, I was, I felt it would evoke fear in people, fear of me. Correct. And then you behave differently. This is the double consciousness, right? I talk about, which W.E.B. Du Bois made popular. Is you had a double consciousness, one of how you felt about not wearing a mask, but then two, also how you were going to be perceived for not wearing your mask.

10:46 So you got these two thoughts going on, like, no, I'm not going to wear my mask because I don't want to wear my mask. But then you had a fear of being rejected or even attacked. Or whatever. Do you remember what episode that was when we talked about that? I think that was the Rona, if not earlier. It should be, yeah, because people may want to go back and check that one out. So let's go ahead and get to the second part. This is not Dr. Malone, it's the other guy. What's the other doctor that came out with the mass formation? Peter McCullough. Yes, it's Dr. Peter McCullough. He's going to speak on the four characteristics of mass formation psychosis. We're in what's called a mass formation psychosis.

CHAPTER 05 / 53 Discussion

Peter McCullough on Four Characteristics of Mass Psychosis

Dr. Peter McCullough outlines four essential elements required to develop a mass psychosis: prolonged isolation, withdrawal of enjoyable activities, constant free-floating anxiety, and a single solution offered by authority. In the context of COVID-19, the singular solution presented globally was universal vaccination. McCullough argues that under these conditions, there is no limit to the absurdity of the solutions people will accept.

peter mccullough· mark mcdonald· lockdowns· anxiety· vaccination

11:29 This is very important. I give credit to Dr. Matthias Desmett in the University of Ghent in Belgium. And recently, Dr. Mark McDonald, psychiatrist from LA, Mark McDonald's got a new book out, The United States of Fear, describing how the mass psychosis developed. What your listeners need to know is a mass psychosis is when there is a groupthink that develops that's so strong that it leads to something horrific. And the examples are these mass suicides that occur in these religious cults. The example is Nazi Germany when people walk into gas chambers and we're guessed. These horrific things, and four elements here, it's very important, Joe. First, there must be a period of prolonged isolation, lockdowns.

12:09 Number two, there must be a withdrawal of things taken away from people that they used to enjoy. That's happened. Number three, there must be constant, incessant, free-floating anxiety. All this news cycle, all the deaths and the hospitalizations, more variant mutant strains, everything. People becoming scared over and over again. And the last thing, number four, the CAPR. The CAPR is there must be a single solution offered by an entity in authority. And this case is clear. Worldwide, the solution was vaccination. Everybody must take the vaccination. It's not a U.S. program. It's not a European. It's everywhere. And you know what, Joe? It doesn't matter what vaccine it is. It's just take a vaccine, take any vaccine.

CHAPTER 06 / 53 Discussion

White Supremacy as a Systemic Control Mechanism

The hosts discuss white supremacy as a systemic structure rather than a collection of personal feelings. They reference Abraham Lincoln's historical proposal to ship freed slaves to Panama or Africa to maintain a specific national identity. The conversation links this systemic "othering" to modern demonization of groups like the unvaccinated or Russian citizens during the Ukraine conflict.

white supremacy· abraham lincoln· panama· vladimir putin· propaganda

12:53 And so what mass psychosis says is: number four, the solution. There's no limit to the absurdity of the solution. Yep. Sounds about right. So even in racism, you had the isolation. You know, you had the, and the solution was racism. You know, because you got to understand how America was created was created to be a white nation. Not my words. Even Abraham Lincoln said this. We've talked about it on the show previously. That when he wanted to free the slaves and then ship them away because he wanted America, he saw America as being created to be a white nation. And that's the great emancipator thinking. So the isolation part of it is

13:39 didn't he actually suggest sending the slaves to their own island? Right. Panama. And then he thought about the West Coast of Africa. There was a couple different options going there. The reason why this is important is because the mass formation is not on black people's mind. No, it's the whites, of course. Right. You had the media pushing that, you know, black people were savages or whatever. Same thing with any notice. Everybody else were, you know, out to get you. The same way the Rona is out to get you and the super carriers are out to get you. So this is the parallel I'm drawing between the two because

14:24 once you realize it's a system, then you can, and it's not personal, it's personal feelings, then we can begin to move past it. Oh, you know, and go ahead. Well, I was going to say, I, I, I mean, the mass formation has just shifted. I mean, now, now, uh, I mean, what have we, what have we seen? We've seen a shift to it's the. the unvaccinated. They're the ones doing it. I mean, it just moves, moves between anything that is handy to keep the control going, I guess. Same thing with Russia. It's like it's the Russians. It's Putin. Everything is Putin. It's Putin.

15:05 He did it. Inflation, Putin. In a time where we shouldn't judge people by the nation where they're from, we've heard people openly threaten Russians, not Russian government members, not the, you know, the leaders of Russia, individual Russians living in America have been demonized. All because of how the media portrays Russians to be, and that's to be sneaky, underhanded. You know, they're trying to disrupt everything. And that's all Russians. So, like you said, it's transferable. But what we have to go back and look at is at the actual system of white supremacy.

CHAPTER 07 / 53 Discussion

Neely Fuller Jr on the System of Racism

Neely Fuller Jr., author of "The United Independent Compensatory Code/System/Concept," defines white supremacy as a global system of power. He argues that the term is often avoided in favor of "white privilege" because it is more confrontational and accurate. The hosts connect Fuller's theories on systemic marginalization to the modern "cancel culture" and search engine manipulation described by Kim Iverson.

neely fuller jr· produce justice· white supremacy· censorship· kim iverson

15:46 So now we got to go to Mr. Neely Fuller Jr. It's a staple. We always go back to him. It seems to be the go-to. Because he wrote the book, literally on the system of racism. Not how you make me feel or, you know, not from the personal perspective, but like, okay, this is how this one thing affects everything else. And it's very, you know, it's a very scientific approach how he goes about doing it. That's why I like using him because everybody else is feeling, oh, they made me feel this way or they made me feel that way or you shouldn't feel that way. No, this is how the system works, just like the COVID. Look at the system of COVID.

16:32 It's not about, if we looked at it from feelings, it's like, okay, I can understand why you want to go see your grandma. But the system says, no, you're going to kill your grandma. You can't see her. You can't be killing me. Yeah, exactly. Or, you know, just how it divided families just based off of what the media put out there. So let's go ahead and get into clip number four so we can get a little bit better understanding of white supremacy. You can get the book by going to producejustice.com. And I'm not just talking about in that book about what the problem is because I've already concluded what the problem is, is white supremacy. I make suggestions about what an individual can do about it. And that's one suggestion that I am making because I have found it to be effective.

17:16 I don't try to use anything that's not effective. When I start using the term white supremacy, and you can get the book by going to producejustice.com, I notice white people sit up and take notice. They don't like to have that term attached to them, even though they gave it to me. That just goes to show you something. You ought to study why that is. I can say that they are nobody. I can call them all kinds of names. I hear black people calling white people names that I never call them, never call them, and will not call them names like cracker and all this type of stuff.

17:58 I don't use that kind of language. But if I imply, and I don't even call them white supremacists, but if I say that they could be one, it seems like they back away from me when I say that. Now, why is that? Black people ought to ask why that is. It might be because I'm coming close to the truth. I didn't even know he had this website, producedjustice.com. How could I have missed this? This is what happens when you become effective. There's only two things you can do after you become effective from the system, the system, is to one, kill you or two, marginalize you.

18:43 Yeah, cancel. Yeah. I mean, that's canceling. That is canceling, is to marginalize you to the margins where you're hard to find, you're hard to hear. Your works don't, you know, just look what happened with what we're seeing with Twitter. The doctors that pushed back against COVID, they were marginalized. No, you can't be heard. You can't be seen. Anybody talking to you is a problem. So now you're ostracized on top of everything else where even if you go on somebody's show or if you went on somebody's show prior to you even making your claims, it could roll back on you and leave stink on you.

19:26 My question is this to people that say, oh, that system doesn't exist. Who's pulling those strings? You heard Kim Iverson say when she went to go search Google, Google said, no, we can't give you no results right now. Right. until we decide what the results are. Who makes that call? Well, because there has to be a system. That's not an individual. This is a wide-reaching, overarching agreement. Well, here's my thought. Here's my thought.

CHAPTER 08 / 53 Discussion

Eugenics, Population Control, and the Religion of Science

The discussion shifts to the "why" behind systemic control, citing eugenics and the "population bomb" theories of Paul Ehrlich. The hosts argue that for certain elites, science has become a religion used to justify population reduction. They claim that modern social movements and environmental alarms are tools used to manage "useless eaters" and limit human reproduction.

eugenics· paul ehrlich· population bomb· climate change· science

20:10 It is a system. We're seeing some of that system exposed with the so-called Twitter files that are kind of drip, drip, dripping out, you know, which are completely insignificant in the mainstream media because nothing is being mentioned. It is a system that wants to control all sides. So it's not just one or the other. It's not a bunch of necessarily white people, white people sitting up in the tower going, screw them, we'll do this, we'll do that. No, they want to control the whole, all of it. And this is just an easy way to do it or an easier way to do it. And their goal is to do what? To push Daroism,

20:53 to push eugenics. Why? It's so important we have this show is it gets to the how and then we're going to dabble around the why the how is go ahead yeah I was going to say the the why in my mind is it's the same people who have been pushing the population bomb eugenics too many people too many useless eaters anyone who is reproducing too quick has to be stopped it's people who are afraid who actually have their own fear that the earth will not sustain

21:34 them and that they are they are supreme and we just have to limit everyone so that they are useful enough just healthy enough to do the shit that we don't want to do and we can control them I mean that's all that's all I ever see it's the same the same people the same evidence did you see this show already no no but you have you have influenced me to such a degree you know this is episode 89 so you know we've been doing this for a while I've learned a lot and and the eye-opener was always Neely Fuller Jr.

22:09 who talks about white supremacy it doesn't have to do with with skin color per se it is the system and there's all kinds of all colors in the system but it is you know call it the bullet call it the elites call it the Illuminati call it the the the bankers call it the rich people whatever it is there is a group and and they and they were alive in the 70s in the 60s maybe even the 50s and before that there was another group but the ones that were there in the 60s and 70s we're still dealing with them today Paul Ehrlich is one population bomb and he said in 1970 we will never have 7 billion people on earth by the year

22:49 2000 he said it's impossible it just can't happen and today he's still out there saying climate change we're all gonna die you know blah blah blah he's and he's still a science advisor to the white house so these people are insane because i wouldn't say insane because i don't want to de uh what's the word look for i don't want to dehumanize dehumanize them not not deep not dehumanize i don't want to trivialize what they actually believe this is a religion to them the same way muslim people believe in allah the same way

23:27 you and i believe in god their god is science yeah their religion is science and just like how all those books talk about end day you know armageddon this is their armageddon and they say it's coming it's coming and we've heard people of all religions say this is the end you know 2012 this is the end they're saying it the same way this is the end the end is coming trust me because it's in the numbers you know that's why i call them scientific white supremacist because in their religion of science this is how they look at it that one

CHAPTER 09 / 53 Discussion

Scientific White Supremacy and the Georgia Guidestones

The hosts explore "scientific white supremacy," which uses IQ tests and data to justify social engineering. They link various social trends, including transgenderism and mass incarceration, to a broader agenda of population tailoring. The Georgia Guidestones are cited as evidence of an elite desire to maintain the global population at 500 million people.

georgia guidestones· transgenderism· planned parenthood· mass incarceration· lizard brain

24:07 you've heard the clip we played over and over again how the guy says that white people are the smartest people and black people and people of color have social paths due to their environment they were raised in so it's science it's not that he woke up one day you know what i want to you know feel like you know i want to feel like to be racist right they look at it we did the iq test we did the numbers this is what it is and so they say well we have to have a scientific approach to that we have to tailor we have to tailor tailor population and this population tailoring. It's that transgenderism, homosexuality, planned parenthood.

24:51 That's the whole point of even mass incarceration to keep the men from the women so you can't procreate. And then we need segregation. Yeah, and then we have, you know, let's convince everyone that they need to transition to an opposite sex so they also can't procreate. Right. And then we have the shots that may be impacting the reproductive systems of the people who take them. Everything is scientific. And I don't want to trivialize how these people look at it because, and their purpose, I mean, not the purpose, the motive, is that they're lizard people. We can't forget that. That's right. Thanks for reminding me.

25:34 If they don't sweat, be wary. And people say, no, what I'm saying is they think with that lizard brain of fight or flight. They've ran all they could run. So it's time to take action, be on the offensive. And that's the whole purpose of it. When you talk about getting it down from 7 billion to 500 million, that's not very many people when you think about that. Yeah, that's the Georgia Guidestones, which were recently obliterated. Correct. They literally had 500 million. That's all you need on the planet. That was part of their small number. Yes, very small number. That's not even 10%.

26:19 So they're even telling you, like I said before, once they get there 10%, then it's 10% of the 10%. And it's to the point where now we can rebuild. It's the destroy to rebuild thing. Now we can go and work from this approved stock to build up, you know, saying utopia. Yeah. Yeah. Which, if you simplify it like that, then it's, then it takes the emotion out of it, which I hope to do, which this show is all about because what we say, we set our capacity for being offended aside to have an honest conversation.

CHAPTER 10 / 53 Discussion

Testing Faith Through Science and Privilege

Compliance with mask mandates and vaccine requirements is characterized as a "test of faith" in the religion of science. Neely Fuller Jr. explains that "white privilege" is a softer, more acceptable term than "white supremacy" because it implies a granted status rather than inherent power. The hosts argue that privilege is a tool used by the "supreme" to reward those who follow the system's rules.

science denier· heretic· white privilege· neely fuller jr· social compliance

26:55 And it's also important to note that the mass formation that was created, whether through circumstance, but certainly with the all-in-one solution of the vaccine, they were targeting everybody. Now we're not just targeting a color, we're targeting everybody. Well, I'll say that there is a target group, the ones that don't go along with those are the target. Because it's so absurd. Put a mask on. Well, these masks don't work. And you even said the masks don't work. Put it on still. And it's like, I don't want to wear the mask. Shut up and put the mask on. And if you don't, then you're put, you're otherized.

27:40 It's okay. Now we figured out. Oh, you're not a true believer in science. That's just like some religions make you give up certain food. You know, oh, you still eat that food. You're not a true believer. Or you don't adhere to this, the Sabbath or whatever. You're not a true believer. So this is that mask, the shot, is just really, in my personal opinion, just a test of your faith. Are you really a science denier? Right. Are you really a heretic? And if you are, that's where they want, that's who they want to identify and get rid of at the end of the day.

28:19 I'm 100% in agreement. All right. So now we got to go back to the second part of this clip from Nillie Fuller to get a further understanding of how the system operates. And that's one thing that the white supremacists never want a black person to come anywhere close to, is the truth. The system of white supremacy demands that only white people are supposed to know the truth about anything. And black people are supposed to pump themselves up on everything that is totally nonsensical false. And I noticed there are a lot of white people who feel very comfortable with the word white privilege.

29:01 Because what does privilege mean? Privilege means that you asked somebody, all right, that you made a contract with somebody. That's what privilege kind of implies. See, that's a softer word than supreme. Oh, man, Fuller is so smart. I didn't even think about this. Of course, it is. You don't have privilege. You get privilege from some other force above you. It's granted. It's granted to you. Oh, that's so smart. And that's where the safe space is to say, yeah, I do have privilege, but it's. it's not of my own doing. Right. That's the soft landing point.

CHAPTER 11 / 53 Discussion

Death of Diamond and the Rescinding of Privilege

The death of Diamond, from the duo Diamond and Silk, serves as an example of how the system rescinds "privilege" from those who do not adhere to the approved narrative. The hosts highlight vulgar comments on Twitter celebrating her death as evidence that her "blackness" and humanity were revoked by the system because of her political and medical stances.

diamond and silk· joe biden· twitter· covid-19· vaccine

29:40 It's not my fault. Not my fault I got privilege. I couldn't help it. Which, the only privilege that is given is to actually non-white people. That's the only people that have white privilege. That's why you can go certain places and go to certain colleges or whatever. I'm going to give you an example. Diamond from Silk and Diamond passed away recently. Yes. Go on Twitter and look at the vulgar comments that are being made about her. Uh-huh. You see what I'm saying? That's the privilege. That's the okay.

30:21 Now you can attack. She's not black anymore. You didn't vote for Joe Biden. You're not black anymore. You did vote for Joe Biden. Okay, you can get some of this white privilege. If you do all the right things that are acceptable for the system, then you can get some privilege. You know, or you're essential. That's privilege. Am I making sense? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, well, it's mainly right off the bat. I just did diamond dead. I thought it was such a fun term. Top one. I give zero fucks of diamond is dead. One less lunatic voter is how I see it. Not sorry. I thought her life mattered. No.

31:08 See, her privilege was taken away from her, mattering. It's like, nope, your privilege doesn't matter. You don't matter anymore. We're going to take away your privilege. So now it's all the gloves can come off and we can attack you, ridicule you, all for saying that you won't want to do something with your body. No, or you didn't adhere to a certain ideology. That's your number two. Number two. As for Diamond, she refused to accept. Hold on. Day four of COVID, I'm weathering it well, probably thanks to being vaccinated/slash boosted. As for Diamond, she refused to accept that and profited from misinforming people about the virus and the vaccines. And now she's dead, and fuck her from here to eternity. That's number two.

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Justice as the Counter to White Supremacy

Justice is defined as the uniform application of rules and norms, serving as the only true counter to white supremacy. The hosts criticize the double standards applied to medical professionals, noting that Anthony Fauci can change his stance without consequence while other doctors lose their licenses. They specifically mention a California law that penalizes doctors for deviating from approved COVID-19 medical advice.

justice· anthony fauci· california· medical advice· misinformation

31:51 There you go. Isn't that beautiful? It's the darnest thing as far as it really is. What you can say, who you can say about it, and that's why it's not justice. I have to, once again, because I didn't have any clips, but the counter to white supremacy is justice, not black supremacy. It's not Asian supremacy. It's not Arab supremacy. It's justice. It's that, okay, these are the rules. Did you break the rules or did you not break the rules? These are the norms. Did you follow the norm? Did you not follow the norms? Are we holding everybody to the same standard? If we are, then that's justice.

32:32 If we aren't, then someone gets getting privilege and someone is not receiving privilege. Then we got to ask the question: who's granting the privilege? And that's the system. Yes. How is it Fauci can say not to wear a mask and then he gets to come back and clean it up? But if another doctor says, oh, masks don't work, they lose their practice or they lose, you know, they lose their standing. Oh, it's now in California. They passed a law where if doctors don't, if they misinform or disinform by saying something different than the approved medical advice, it's now illegal. That's pretty, that's pretty crazy. That's your situation.

33:17 But it's nothing is confirmed on COVID. Everything, when does that, you know, what is the standard being set to what I need to hear by? Is it the ever-changing one? So is there, can you be grandfathered in? Can we go back and go after Fauci for all the things he said that were counter or you can't catch it if you take the shot? And this is not about the shot. This is not really even about race. This is about how, like Neely Fuller said, how can we become effective against the system? This is why I love Neely Fuller's work so much because it's empowering the individual to become effective.

33:55 Not me pressuring you to think a certain way or shaming you or which I thought I think those tactics one don't work and B are disgusting because it's like you're not going to really change someone's mind. You know, you can make them, oh, I'm sorry. But apologies, true apologies happen to become be you have to come to those on your own, not be forced. Otherwise, it doesn't mean anything. If you say apologize to me, that's bullcrap. A sorry and apology has to come from the person giving it of their own accord. So now we have to go and look into the word privilege a little bit more. And this is from one of my favorite YouTubers.

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Authenticity in Independent Media and Podcasting

The hosts reflect on the 19-year history of podcasting and its roots in authenticity. They contrast the "sanitized" and "dead" sound of mainstream outlets like NPR with the raw, unedited nature of independent creators. They argue that technical blemishes and real-world background noise are what make alternative media more relatable and trustworthy.

podcasting· npr· independent media· youtube· authenticity

34:37 Pardon the noise in the back. I guess he was having some yard work. It's okay. It's what alternative media is all about. And that's exactly why I kept the clip because I was like, oh, I don't, I could probably find another source that goes to this word. But we have to break away from the mainstream, the number one tool of the system is media. All right, hold on. Because that's where my ideas come from. I want to get this out because you just triggered something in me. When we started podcasting now, what is it, 19 years ago? One of the things that always felt beautiful to me was that you didn't have to have the perfect voice.

35:19 You didn't have to have the perfect sound. You didn't have to, it didn't have to be perfect. It was real. It was real people saying real things. We've gotten away from that to some degree. I mean, for a whole bunch of whole bunch of reasons, but people doing a lot of editing and tweaking and trying to make things perfect. But I always personally felt the beauty of podcasting was to not have that. Obviously, you want something understandable and you want to be able to actually hear it. But that was always what, because that breaks you out of that fourth wall, if you will. Oh, wait a minute.

35:57 Oh, because you listen to NPR, it's all, you know, it's all quiet and dead, and it's, you know, it's very serious. And now they were just real people, and it had such a profound effect on me. And that is one of the, to my, in my mind, one of the most beautiful things about, you know, podcasting or YouTubers, anyone who's making something themselves that is, it's going to be rough because it's real. Those blemishes, that's what makes it not the sanitized mainstream media. Yes. All right. So let's get into some real, some, some real authentic content then with clip number six.

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Private Law and the Rescinding of Privileges

The word "privilege" is broken down into its Latin roots, *privus* and *lex*, meaning "private law." The hosts discuss how privileges are granted for good behavior and rescinded for bad behavior, using the Hasidic Jewish community's experience with vaccine mandates as a case study. They argue that modern identity "badges" (race, gender, orientation) are used to protect the loudest voices for the system.

private law· hasidic jews· measles vaccine· adl· intersectionality

36:39 Privilege. Okay, a privilege is a right, a possibility of action, but only for a special group of people. Maybe because they've been given permission or because they've reached a certain age or have become members of a certain group or maybe they've passed an exam. Okay, so privilege, a privilege is something that only a restricted number of people can do. It's something that is not open or available to everybody.

37:22 Right. Hence the talented 10th. This is why I was saying only people that receive white privilege are people of non-white people because it's like, okay, you're the talented tiff, you're different. This is this set-aside group. And on a larger scale, I think we see this with Jewish people. They're given privilege. And it's weird that they don't identify as white. We've had that conversation before. But it's kind of like, how can I put this? They get the privilege of not wearing a mask. In our mask scenario, it's like, okay, you got it.

38:06 You don't have to wear a mask. You're cool. Because the knowledge I'm drawing there, because they look, they appear to be white. But even then, we talk about the Hasidic Jews, their privilege was taken away because it's like they, they, they caught hell at the beginning with the measles vaccine. Everybody ignores that. And that's why I don't get caught up in the whole one group is bad and one group is good because they caught hell with that measle vaccine and nobody said anything.

38:42 Not the ADL, not Civil Poverty Law Center. Nobody. It's even funnier because recently in Ohio, there was another flare-up of, I think it might have been, wow, was it measles? It was something because it happened in the beginning with measles and then COVID. But then in Ohio, they didn't even say what group it was. I had to go look like, oh, it's Hasidic Jews. Yeah, no, they don't vaccinate. It wasn't even brought up anymore. And where's their groups? Their groups were told to stand down by somebody somewhere to stand down. Your people are being oppressed. Why are y'all not taking up for them? You know, they were going in, taking children, all kinds of things.

39:23 This is pre-COVID, and everybody. everybody looked the other way. So that's what I'm saying. This is where privileges are given and taken. And it's like with black men, you know, you have the black privilege, but it's taken away. If you say anything anti-Semitic or anti-homophobic, that privilege is taken away. And this is why you need as many badges as you can. Because it's like, oh, right. You know, I'm a black badge. You talk about black privilege. Female badge, trans badge, all kinds of badges. Correct. That's why you have to have so many because the people that they lean on the most have the most privileges, so you can't cancel them.

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Distinction Between Supremacy and Privilege

The hosts attempt to clarify the confusing overlap between "supremacy" and "privilege." They argue that supremacy involves inherent rights, while privilege is something granted by a higher power. They use the Second Amendment as an example, stating that the right to self-defense is God-given, whereas the government attempts to rebrand it as a privilege they can regulate.

supremacy· god-given rights· second amendment· confusion· private law

40:06 And they're the loudest voices for the system. So I hope all this is making sense. As we push on, let's get, and this guy has the greatest voice ever, but that's the other thing. Let's get to the second part of privilege. Okay, the origin of this word comes from private, private, and ledge, lex, law in Latin. So private law. Okay, it's not public law. It's a private law that permits some people to do something and other people not to.

40:42 Wow. Okay. So a privilege is something special that not everybody is permitted to do, or not everybody is able to do. So, for example, in a prison, if you behave well, maybe you are given certain privileges for good behavior. So maybe they let you go out for the day, or maybe they let you have extra tobacco or extra time in the recreation area. Okay, so privileges. And if you behave badly, they will rescind, take away your privileges.

41:29 That is a good way to put it. I love the breakdown of private law. Very, very cool. Yeah. So speaking of law, is there anything else you want? I'm just wanting to lay out what privilege means because it has to be given. And if you're supreme, no one can give you a privilege. So that's why the two things are not the same, but they're used synonymously. But they're not the same. They're actually opposites because one, you're giving it, you're saying from the private law, from the private people that control the private law.

42:09 Like, okay, you're given this. Whereas with supremacy, I do what I want when I want, which honestly, we're all have that right. That's what God-given rights are. And this is where supremacy runs up against your God-given rights. This is where the real war happens: is that these are my rights. It's like a bubble. You know what I'm saying? We all have a bubble, and my rights are inside my bubble. But if my bubble infringes on your bubble, then we have infringement of your rights. So it's like my rights, what do you say? My rights in where yours begin. I think that's the saying.

42:49 So say for instance, go ahead. I'm kind of struggling. So, you know, one of the, we have white privilege, which, and this is really, I mean, it's used all over the world, but really started in America. White privilege, and then we have the slur of white supremacists. So, you know, Donald Trump and his cronies, white supremacists, which in parlance today, I think what they're meeting, what they think they're saying is these are this is tough. I'm not sure I can, I'm not sure I can verbalize this, but it's why don't you keep going and then I'll see if I can jump back in.

43:31 It's a hard concept to put together the difference between these two. And let's stop here so we don't lose anybody else. Privilege is given. That's like them saying, like, let's just say 2A, for instance. They say, we give you the privilege to own guns. No, it's my right as a human being to own guns. That's something you can't give to me. But the supremists say we'll give you this privilege. So you can't be supreme and receive privilege. The only people that can give privilege are the supremes.

44:12 Correct. But they are intermingled. These two terms are intermingled in the parlance, which makes it. it incredibly confusing. Which confusion is the number one tool of the supremacist. That is the number one. Oh, I know. Now I know what's going on. Because you have somebody stand up who is clearly a part of the supreme and say, yeah, they'll do this thing like, yeah, I do have white privilege. Right. No, you decide the laws. No one gave you privilege.

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White Privilege as an Absolution Tactic

A host recalls being accused of "white privilege" by a professor, interpreting the accusation as a way for the accuser to absolve themselves of being part of the "supreme" decision-making class. The segment introduces a provocative definition of "violence" as the "undue alteration" or changing of the truth, suggesting that lying and linguistic manipulation are aggressive acts.

donald trump· university of texas· violence· truth· linguistics

44:47 You have, but that's their thing to say, oh, I have privilege. So it takes to you takes the fact out of your mind that they are supreme and the one that made the rules. Right. But if so, the first time I was accused of having white privilege was a long time ago by a University of Texas professor. And I'm talking seven years ago. And I had never even heard the term. It just came out of nowhere. You have white privilege. I have white privilege. Was it a white person? Of course. Of course. And did they say you went, I have white privilege? Yes, correct? Yes, he did. See how he absolved him or herself

45:32 of being a member of the Supreme? It's like, we know, no, we have privilege. You know, we're not the decision makers. And this is not personal against them. Right, right, but what's going on all the way up the ladder. Right, but what's crazy is so here's the dichotomy, though. So, oh, you and I both have this privilege, which is given to us by the Supreme, but then they turn around and say, Donald Trump is a white supremacist, so we were given that privilege by him or people like him. And this is where it confuses me. And that's the whole point of it. Yeah, got it. Got it. It sends you in a loop. That's why we had to set, that's why I'm trying so hard to separate white privilege from white supremacy.

46:13 Because supremacy is not given. It's rights. It's a set of rights. And that's why you have the term black in America. Because it's like in America, it was every white man has rights given to him by the Constitution. And it's like, hold on, hold on, hold on. I disagree. The rights were given by God protected by the Constitution. Well, your God don't count because we got separation of church and state. You see, see what now we, that's where the governance thing comes in. It's like, no, no, no, no, no. Right, but the actual origin of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights is what the government may not do, how they may not infringe on your God-given rights.

46:56 I completely agree with you. I agree with what you're saying, but how they see it is that wink, wink, now, now we give you your rights. We allow you to have your rights. Oh, totally. No, when I hear a news report, no, it's a privilege to own guns. No, no, no, no, no. And that's the supremist mindset. Because now you're telling me what I have the right to protect myself or not. No, only a fool would say I don't have the right to protect myself and use whatever means is best to do that. Right. Or to say what I want to say, just go to moving to freedom of speech. I should have the right to say what I want to say. As long as not inciting violence against anybody else, then it should be okay because it's my mouth.

47:40 God gave me the right to say and the ability to say what I want to say. As long as my rights don't infringe upon your rights. And it's interesting, just as a quick aside, there's a fourth definition to violence. I didn't know this till recently when I was doing some research for a show. And that's the changing of the truth. Did you know that? Changing of the truth is violence? Yes. No, I didn't know this. Let's look it up together. I mean, because this is important because when you lie on somebody, that's actually an act of violence.

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NOTAM System Failure and AI Violence

The FAA's NOTAM system recently experienced a rare outage, and the hosts notice the acronym has been changed from "Notice to Airmen" to "Notice to Air Missions." They use an AI chatbot to investigate whether "undue alteration" of text constitutes violence. The hosts conclude that AI and Wikipedia are tools of "linguistic violence" used to rewrite history and obscure human accountability.

notam· faa· artificial intelligence· wikipedia· mandela effect

48:19 Okay. So, how would I even look that up? Just look up the definition of violence. Okay. Well, and I don't, you know, definition. I learned today, just while I'm looking this up, you know, the NOTAM system was down, the N-O-T-A-M, which informs pilots of what's, which, by the way, I've been a pilot for a long time. I've never, ever heard of the system going down. It basically just tells you, before you fly to an airport, it'll say, hey, you know, these lights are out. There's a crane here. You know, just stuff you need to know when you're going into the area. And I looked at this. I thought it was having a Mandela moment. I'm like, it said notice to air missions.

49:03 This has always been notice to airmen. I mean, that's, I've, I took the test. You know, it's like, I have a license. Notice to airmen. Apparently, they just went ahead and changed that in 2021. Yeah, the Supreme said we need. need to change it. And we see definitions that I don't want to harbor on this, but we had to look at it. We have to stop and really realize the environment we're in. Because sometimes we talk, not me and you, but we talk past people. And, you know, we live in the age of society where nobody really listens empathetically or listens for understanding. It's just like, I'm waiting to talk. So I'm going to be quiet while you're talking. That kind of thing.

49:46 And I looked up the word violence just for it. Undue alteration as wording and sense of editing. Wow. So even them editing is violence. Wow. That is really interesting. And I didn't know that as well because I was watching a YouTube video and it's this lady that brought it up. And I was like, wow, is that right? First thing I had to do is go ahead and check. But words are so important in this system because look how they changed what a recession is on the fly. Whatever suits them. It's like, no, we're not a recession.

50:26 This is not inflation. This is not whatever, you know, fill in the blanks. They change the definitions whenever it suits them. So I've just, that is violence. So I just logged into the AI system because I'm fascinated by how that's going to change what people learn and how they look at. Oh. Yeah. So I asked first, is changing text violence? No, changing or editing text is not considered violence. Violence refers to physical force, blah, blah, blah. Is undue alteration considered violence? Undue alteration can potentially be considered a form of violence if it involves using force or coercion to change something against the will of the person or group who owns or has control over it.

51:14 However, the term violence is generally used to refer to physical harm. And blah, blah, blah. In many cases, undue alteration might be considered vandalism, damage, or theft. It could also be in illegal terms a crime. So they're wishy-washy about it at best. I just like the dictionary definition. It says it right there. Undue alteration, wording or sense, as of wording or sense in editing a text. Which is Wikipedia is violence. There you go. Done. We can all go home. All this rewriting of history is a form of violence. And even the AI is actually participating in violence.

51:58 Oh, it's very violent. I'm convinced of that. I'm very against this parlor trick. Anything that types of anything that types out in front of me is a trick. And that's why it's so useful because then the system can step back and like, hey, that's the AI. It ain't me. Just like with the bell, with the calculation of bell. It's like, you know, that ain't me. You know, the justice system, it's the AI. It's algo, baby. It's the algorithm. They determined it. Yeah. Same thing with policing and everything else. That's why you're trying to move everything over to AI because then it's don't look at me. It's the AI. Then the AI becomes supreme. Only person is submissive to is the person that writes the code. Yeah, but no one ever thinks about that.

52:43 They think. I'm sorry. I take that back. I mean, I think a lot of people do because they understand. I think a lot, not only me, but you always have to ask who's writing the code, who's writing the words, who's writing the laws. I mean, we have to ask these things, but we don't because they tie everything up to be a show. Correct. And we get caught up in the show of it. Yeah. Theater, theatrics. Yes. Well, that's pleasant when you haven't even hit clip 10 and already I'm depressed. Move on, Moe. You know, we don't have to. No, we're making progress because if we know the words, then we could play the word game right along with him and to Jordan Maxwell.

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Jordan Maxwell on Maritime Law and Corporations

Jordan Maxwell's theories on the "law of the high seas" are used to explain how commercial systems govern human bodies as corporations. The hosts discuss how birth certificates and social security numbers turn individuals into business entities subject to government regulation. This systemic control extends to homeschooling, where parents must seek state permission to educate their own children.

jordan maxwell· maritime law· knights templar· social security· homeschooling

53:25 Before we start the clip, do you know who Jordan Maxwell is? And I know he can be a very polarizing figure in the truther, in the truther realm. Well, looking at the title, I know what this is about. So I've probably heard of him, but it doesn't ring a bell right away. But I know what he's going to say. I've heard. Of course. All right, let's go ahead and get to number eight. Just in English, the dock, the water. Yeah, yeah, of course. But of course, it goes all the way back to the English or British domination of the seas. And so when the British began to dominate the seas, the Knights Templar Masonic Order of the Knights Templars, who have been in the middle of Asia, came back into Western, Eastern Europe.

54:09 Europe, brought all of these concepts, and it was developed into a commercial system of words and terms and symbols, which are used in courts and government and corporations. You know, your body as a corporation. No, that's a whole story. We could talk for hours on this, but your body as a corporation. It sells, you mean? No, no, no. It's called, and by law, your body. Your physical body is a corporation. And so when you die, you're a corpse because you're because when you're living, you're a corporation. You are a business. And hanging out with that person is bad business. Or who I hang out with is none of your business. Right. Because it's because your body is a business.

54:55 Yeah. I've heard a lot and I've read a lot about this. Quite a lot. And it crops up from time to time. Like recently, well, when you're born, you get a social security number. You know, our property of the United States and they can write loans against you. And if you're a business, that means they could tell you how to operate as a business and who you can merge with, i.e., marry. And they control the offspring or the subsidiaries of that business or that merger.

55:33 This is this. This is the, I don't think, even to the point of education, because that's what the last show was kind of talked about. Everybody, like, oh, homeschool your kids. Do you know you had to be given permission to homeschool your kids? Did people know? Did you know that? Did people know that? I do. Yeah, you have to register and everything. And you have to meet certain criteria. I know in Virginia, you had to have a college degree or some kind of other, not in every state. Some states have different requirements. But even still, for something that me and my wife created, we have to go get permission to keep them home and to teach them what we want to teach them.

56:18 And then they got to meet certain criteria, pass certain tests at the end of the year. Oh, really? Yes. Who's really in control here? And do we really have as much control as we think we have? No, I would say no, absolutely not. And that's the seduction of it. But they make it seem like with the words they use, which words are the most important part of this whole show. It's words. Because if you can get to, if I can articulate myself to where you understand and you seek to understand, and if you can articulate yourself to where I understand and I'm seeking to understand, then we can get to some understanding and you can have a win-win, which the system doesn't want.

56:59 The system wants to pick favorites. That way you can pit everybody else against the favorite or the favorite against everybody else, which causes the mass formation or group thing. Yes. This is a good one and a tough one because I have brought this up on No Agenda several times. And my partner on No Agenda just laughs at me. He scoffs and said this is bullcrap. So I kind of gave up on it with him. I don't think it's, I mean, the reason why I don't think it's bullcrap is they wouldn't invest so much time with rewriting the dictionary on the fly. And that's the thing about where we live in the information age that's beautiful.

57:42 That they would go in the dictionary somewhere and rewrite it. And if you didn't buy the new edition, you wouldn't know what changed. You wouldn't know at all. And look at, just look at, besides it being a scam, but look at all the college textbooks. They change every semester, it seems. Right. And we could, like I said, Wikipedia. Wikipedia is our encyclopedia. You know, that's our shared copy of the encyclopedia. Everybody used to have in their house, the Britannica, right? Yep. That's our Britannica. And imagine if people could come in and cross out and change and rewrite. And I have a couple examples throughout the show, but the main point of that last clip is that it's words.

58:24 Everything is about words. And for the believers out there, it says the word was God and the word. Like I said, I don't want to make this a religious, but every religion, you know what I'm saying? Attributes some power to what comes out of our mouth. Definitely. You know, you can speak bad on somebody, whatever really, I don't care, or non-religion, like the power of words has effect. And that's what they use. And they use violence to manipulate, to corrupt. So and in this case, violence, as in changing of words.

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Control of Information and the Digital Ocean

The concept of maritime law is applied to the "digital ocean" of the internet. The hosts argue that whoever controls the flow of information, currency, and goods controls the world. They criticize the "uniparty" in Washington for its unquestioning support of Ukraine and Volodymyr Zelenskyy, viewing the conflict as a means to maintain control over global logistics and finance.

maritime law· digital ocean· navy· ukraine· volodymyr zelenskyy

59:04 of words. Yes. Which the change of words can actually manifest itself into actual physical violence. Because now you're trying to rewrite history, and some people believe it one way, and then some people remember it the other way, and some people just adhere to whatever they're told. And then it causes clashes. We have a jingle for that. Because words do matter. Always played that one. They do matter. Words matter. All right. So let's get into the second part of Jordan Maxwell. The whole subject is so large, and it would take hours to, and I'd have to go back to square one and walk through all the words and terms that are used in law and courts and

59:50 commerce for you to understand how pervasive this concept of water is on the earth. The law of water, maritime admiralty, it's an extraordinary story about how governments rule the world. And unless you understand this, you're never going to figure out what's going on. You know, just because it's a personal story, but it adds a little bit to this. In the Netherlands, which was always a seafaring nation, you know, East India Company, you know, something about transporting slaves. They did a lot of stuff. It was always a seafaring nation. There is still a law on the books today, which has been used against me.

1:00:32 And it really, it costs like a $75 filing fee. It may have gone up a little bit in the past years. If you believe that you are owed something from someone, then you can freeze their bank account as an individual until that is solved. And this stems directly from maritime law. Hey, that ship can't leave. You got to lock the anchor because I believe I have a claim on that on that person. And to this day, you can still do that. And it happens right away. Boom. You're done. It's approved. The bank accounts are frozen. And I've had it done against me.

1:01:10 It's crazy what some maritime law can do. And one more thing I want to point out from the Jordan Maxwell clip was the previous one is those who control the seas, I think, still control the world. Whose navies really control the seas? Like Navy, like that, because that's information, that's movement, that's the movement of goods, information, all these things. Now I think that the internet is something they couldn't foresee in maritime law, but I think it's similar in the flow of commerce and goods across the internet. I think that factors into it. But whoever controls those control the world.

1:01:55 They call it the digital ocean. That's words for the world. I didn't know that. Yeah, the digital ocean. Oh, yeah. There's even companies called digital ocean for that very reason. Sure. I did not know that, which I think only leans to what I'm saying more. So we got to say, whose navies can go anywhere and port anywhere and tell you, hey, you can't be here. I think that's who really controls the world. Well, that fight is on, you know. Russia is trying to build up their ruling navy. China, obviously, the United States, the United States still reign supreme to some degree. And of course, that's also shifting to railroad.

1:02:41 But yeah, who controls movement, movement of goods or information? I would say information is the most important thing now. So I just want to point that out because they're talking about the Knights Templar and things of that nature. I don't think it's quote unquote that group or whatever, but I think it's that mentality of whoever controls flow of information, currency, and goods are the real controllers of this world. And it's a very seductive power. And that's where the unit party bows to. Notice, they can fight about anything else. But when it talks about like Ukraine giving Ukraine more, oh, go for it.

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Refined White Supremacy and Psychological Programming

Neely Fuller Jr. describes the "refined white supremacist" as someone who avoids the label while still exerting overwhelming harm on others. The hosts discuss how this system creates a "cloud" of fear that limits individual thinking. They reference historical programs like COINTELPRO as blueprints for modern efforts to subvert and identify leaders who challenge the status quo.

neely fuller jr· cointelpro· psychological warfare· fcc· paypal

1:03:23 Go for it. We got to give them more money. It was like, even if you even ask any questions, oh, you're not a patriot. Oh, you're a Russian sympathizer. Yeah. It's just for asking questions of where the money's going. And we have things we could be spending here. And look at Fox News. They're all in. Oh, yeah. Oh, Zelensky. Oh, yeah. Oh, beautiful. Yep. We need to, yeah, we need to help him. It's for democracy. So now we got to go back to Neely Fuller, and he's going to explain more about the system in clip three. See a white supremacist. in 2017, the refined white supremacist does not want that label at all.

1:04:06 But that's exactly who they are because they are the ones that tell people what to do. And people that they tell what to do when they tell black people what to do, and it's not just telling them what to do, it's telling them what to do that's going to be of harm to black people. And the black person doesn't know what to do about it. You have to keep your mind on what supreme means. It means you are faced with something that is overwhelming, overwhelmingly harmful to you, and you don't know what to do about it. Whatever that force is, if it's nothing but a bear or a moving wall or tidal wave or a white person, a person with white skin making you do something you don't want to do and you don't know what to do about it.

1:04:55 That is supremacy by any definition, like it or not. But supremacy can be overcome if you face that fact. And this is where I have the utmost respect for you. Every time you face the system of you can't say this, or we're going to dock your PayPal, or you can't say this on the airways or FCC is going to come at you. You've always found ways to dip-duck, dip, duck, dodging the system, right? Is all right, I'll go to Bill 2.0. All right. We'll start podcasting.

1:05:38 But the problem is, and I think the difference is, is with the psyop of racism, it's that cloud is you think it's hanging over your head, right? I think that exists in certain people that you may not have had for whatever reason, being born, not born in the Netherlands, but being raised in the Netherlands, or just that you didn't have that programming to say, I can't do this because the, you know, the boogeyman's out there. And that's the real power of the system is it limits your thinking.

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Pronouns as an Enforcement Tool for Children

The enforcement of preferred pronouns is characterized as a tool used to deputize children against their parents. The hosts argue that this linguistic shift is destructive and divisive, creating a "third-party enforcement" mechanism within families. They also note the prevalence of mixed-race couples in advertising as a form of intentional social engineering and propaganda.

pronouns· gender identity· indoctrination· propaganda· advertising

1:06:17 You know, I have to do this. You know, oh, well, because I experienced this thought process. It's like, well, do I take the shot? Do I not take the shot? You know, do I, you know, it's going to be hard starting over, just hitting the groove, you know, at my job. I enjoy what I do. I have credentials and all these things. And I'm thinking what the system can take away from me. Or do I start on my go ahead? Well, there's other versions of this that are very interesting to me. And the one that pops to mind is pronouns. Because I've been, you know, this is very, it's an incredibly powerful

1:06:59 supremacy system that is put in place and given to very malleable minds, namely young people and children. So pronouns are not used when you are talking to someone. You don't say, hey, you know, it's when you are talking about someone. And the worst is, and Tina and I have both witnessed this. Mom, it's they. So now all of a sudden, the violence truly, in the context of the definition, the violence of changing these words and this blank grammar has given power to young people to tell their parents that they're out of line.

1:07:44 And it's incredibly weird and probably destructive in ways that we don't even realize yet. This is one that really bothers me. If not destructive, divisive, which divisive mutates the destructive. But notice it's all about enforcement. And I had this same thought. I never said it before, but you're exactly right as far as we don't talk about pronouns, our pronouns. It's an enforcement tool. You know, it's a third-party enforcement. You know, when you say, oh, you can't say that. You say they. Right.

1:08:26 The person's not even in the room. They're not even present. That's the crazy part. That's the control mechanism that is mind-blowing. That's the enforcement. That is the children have been weaponized. Yeah, weaponized and they've been indoctrinated. Deputized. Deputized. Deputy. That's it. They've been deputized to say, whenever you see something, see something, say something. When you hear they, when you don't hear them using the right pronouns, you're supposed to step in

1:09:02 and take action. And that goes to show you how fast and how seductive the system is because something you raised can, and you gave it most of its programming, our children. Yeah. Right? But they get this new idea to say, no, no, no, dad, you can't say that. Or you can't say that. I get the looks as well. Mostly when I'm pointing out multi-racial or biracial, not biracial, but mixed race couples. And I'm only doing it to show the propaganda to say the numbers don't make sense that the last four commercials I've seen, that they're pushing this agenda.

1:09:48 I'm a numbers person. We love this game. We love playing this game. I'm just a numbered person. Like, that's the fourth commercial, fourth in a row that, you know, they push the idea of mixed couples, which to each his own. But my thing is, I'm looking at what, why are you showing me this? Who's showing me this? And why are you showing me this? And I'm not going to belabor the point, but just as you said, it's one, it indoctrinates the children to push back against their parents. And when you have that division, as you say, it causes destruction eventually. Yeah. All right. So let's go ahead and get into number four. But supremacy can be overcome.

CHAPTER 22 / 53 Discussion

Substance Abuse and Mental Health Apps

The CDC has recorded record-high drug overdose deaths during the COVID-19 pandemic, particularly involving opioids and fentanyl. The hosts argue that the rise of mental health apps is a "big trap" designed to funnel people toward pharmaceutical prescriptions like SSRIs. They suggest that isolation and anxiety were intentionally cultivated to create a market for these services.

cdc· overdose· fentanyl· narcan· mental health apps

1:10:33 If you face that fact, you have to face it first. You can't run and hide from something that's supreme over you. You have to turn around and grab it by the horns. But you have to know how to do it. But I know, I can understand it. Fear will make me say, well, it ain't happening. You know, drug me up so that I don't feel it. Yeah. And many of us do just that. Get drugged up so that we don't feel the effects of white supremacy. Because that's why we're getting drugged up. We can't stand the pain and we don't know what to do about it.

1:11:12 That guy is so smart. So now going back to the COVID analogy, lo and behold, when this systemic structure came in as far as pushing medical invasion of your medical rights and your God-given rights, we see an uptick in substance abuse. A local alcohol and drug rehab center says calls have not slowed down. In fact, more people are wanting help during the coronavirus pandemic. They're not alone. The CDC recently recorded an all-time high number of drug-related deaths over a 12-month period.

1:11:51 Cambys Madisalazar tells us how the CDC is issuing a health advisory to first responders, medical, and public health professionals. Phones are ringing. The website chats are kind of going crazy. But no matter what, Tiffany Anschutz with Sage Recovery in Austin says they make sure they're here for you. General adult population that we're just seeing an increase in depression, anxiety, suicidal thoughts, and of course a significant increase in alcohol use. That's where it's no longer becoming manageable. The CDC saw overdose deaths accelerate as coronavirus kept spreading. It reported more than 81,000 overdose deaths between May 2019 and May 2020.

1:12:31 The highest number of overdose deaths ever recorded in a 12-month period. The most deaths between March and May. The CDC recommends public health departments and community-based organizations to one, expand the use of Narcan, a medication designed to reverse an opioid overdose. Two, teach people about overdose prevention. Three, bring awareness to treatment. And four, intervene early with people at highest risk for overdose. And Schutz says it's important to talk about it now more than ever. Mental health does not discriminate. Yeah, this is a big ass trap. And you're right in my backyard with this one because I've studied this.

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Fentanyl Logistics and the Military Industrial Complex

The shift from Afghan heroin to Mexican fentanyl is discussed as a matter of logistics and troop movements. The hosts reference the film "American Gangster" to illustrate historical drug smuggling by the military. They argue that the "Supreme" entities control the precursors and pathways for these drugs, which are then used to destabilize specific communities.

fentanyl· afghanistan· poppy fields· denzel washington· mexico

1:13:12 What did we see appear during COVID besides Zoom, besides, you know, all of the homeschooling, all of the apps? What was a big category of service/slash apps that popped up? Mental health. Yes. And I've looked at every single one of these, and there's a couple more I'm still investigating. And these mental health apps assign you a mental health quote-unquote professional or a provider, as it's known these days. We used to call that a dealer, but a provider. And there's a path, and they walk you down the path.

1:13:49 the path, and pretty soon you're prescribed medication, which they can then do under auspices of certain laws. And they can do it. They have a person on staff who can do this. And before you know it, they prescribed you three times, they can't do more than three, some kind of SSRI or something else. And it doesn't take long before you start to get into things that equal that, which you then find on the street. It's a system. You know, these opioids, these are talking about opioid deaths, they're talking about fentanyl.

1:14:29 And I was going to say, that's the other thing that showed up right around when Corona kicked off was the mainstreaming of fentanyl. Of course, it had been around, but when the border got blew wide open, it was heroin, and heroin had to end because heroin came out of Afghanistan, and that was falling apart. If you look at the troop movements and the stations in Afghanistan, they were around poppy fields, not to destroy them, to protect them. American president, Denzel Washington, American gangster, I'm sorry, Denzel Washington. It's a true story. They brought the drugs back in the coffins of dead soldiers.

1:15:11 That never stopped. It never went away. But it wasn't strong enough. Well, it was complicated. Fentanyl is just you put some stuff together, some chemicals, you got a better effect and a deadly effect. You're right. And logistics-wise. It'd be easier. Now we can build labs in Mexico instead of bringing it from Afghanistan. It's much easier to do. Which go back to who controls logistics. You know, this is the thing that's very good. It's been this thing in a sense, talking point. It came up in New Jack City that black people don't make machine guns and we don't manufacture cocaine or heroin, but somehow it shows up in our neighborhood all the time.

CHAPTER 25 / 53 Discussion

Chaos, Confusion, and State Rights

Neely Fuller Jr. identifies nine areas of human activity where the system deliberately sows chaos and confusion. The hosts discuss how the federal government uses "good causes" like integration or marriage equality to overreach and dismantle state rights. They argue that these legislative battles are often "non-issues" whipped up to cause division and ultimately reduce the rights of all citizens.

brown v board of education· roe v wade· clarence thomas· gay marriage· federalism

1:18:55 constantly in all nine areas of activity. All over the world. Economics, education, entertainment, labor, law, politics, religion, sex, and war. But he got them all. Nothing left. Religion. Religion. Religion. He didn't put religion in there. No, he did. No, he did. I didn't hear it. Okay. Yeah. So confusion, we spoke about this last show. You have an outside entity come in in the South and say, we're just going to integrate y'all.

1:19:36 And the white sonnet said we have state rights, which is God-given rights. The federal government was overreaching its power, but it was allowed to because we're doing this on good cause. We got to put the black people in, which causes confusion and chaos. And out of that, you have the black people look to the southern poor people as, oh, that's white supremacy. No, the people that come in, the Supreme Court that came in that ruled on Brown versus Board of Education was the white supremacists in this case. But the thing is, is those same white southerners believed that they were supreme based off of whatever science or religion that they lend upon.

1:20:22 You know, some people think, oh, black people are the seed of ham, and that's why they could be slaves. Or we spoke about in the last show how some groups think that we're academically and mentally inferior. So that's what keeps us over here. But even though you can have a black person that's smarter than a white person, they'll say, well, you're just different. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's just, I'm not living up to my full capability. You know what I'm saying? You can, you tap out of that, that kind of mentality. And the thing is, the puppet masters have them fighting. And guess what? The whole thing was about state rights. And they only needed a wedge or a battering ram to get kicked down the door.

1:21:05 Now it's like, okay, now we can come in overreach. You know, we don't, it's not up to the individuals and their interpretation of rights. Now it's the federal government. And that has permeated to an incredible degree that states' rights aren't even understood anymore. No, state rights is not synonymous with racism. Now, Trump. If you say anything state rights, that's racism. And that's the whole thing against Roe versus Wade, why it's necessary. You know, because there's no state rights or the gay marriage bill or whatever they had recently, the equal marriage bill or whatever they voted on recently.

1:21:45 It's like state rights, you have these pockets of backward thinking. We need to come in with our superior knowledge, our supreme knowledge, and correct their thinking, their way of thinking. And that was played up, but I read the bill. It was against the Defense of Marriage Acts. It was the conference, I forget what exactly it was called. The only thing that it did is it said, if a same-sex couple is married and recognized as married in one state, that if they go to another state, that other state has to grant them that same status, which is, I think, constitutionally because of interstate commerce, I think is something

1:22:31 that the federal government, in a stretch of the imagination, has some say over. But it really was positioned as something completely different. We codified gay rights. That's how it was positioned, which is just not true. And really was more just to cause more chaos and confusion because a lot of these issues were non-issues anymore. I think people really didn't care about no one cares, especially inner, because the whole thing they were going against after Clarence Thomas was about, he's voting against his own right to get married to his wife. You know, that kind of thing. Because I think a race, mixed race couples were included in there somehow.

1:23:11 They lunch locked them in. But yeah, it was all just to cause, whip up more chaos and confusion. And for and for political gain. Yes. That's the whole purpose is to they use all of these tactics to take your rights away. At the end of all of this, you're going to end up with less rights. I don't care what the argument is because you can't give me more rights because your rights don't, my rights don't come from you. You see how this works? They can't give you more rights. I was born with these rights. They only can take them away. Well, that again is the gross

CHAPTER 26 / 53 Discussion

Marriage Licenses and the Salt Covenant

The hosts discuss the religious and legal nature of marriage, noting that the government treats it as a "corporate merger" through the requirement of a license. One host describes performing a "salt covenant" at his wedding as a permanent, non-governmental bond. They argue that the Bill of Rights was intended to restrict the government, not grant permissions to citizens.

marriage license· salt covenant· constitution· bill of rights· contract law

1:23:50 under education in the United States where the Constitution is taught as rights you are given, rights you are given, not rights you have and are restricted. The document restricts the federal government. The freedom of speech shall not be encroached. That's a direct marriage. Say, a marriage doesn't belong with the government at all. I mean, I've always thought that was weird. Because I'm a firm believer, one, the government can't sanction marriage and the government can't dissolve marriage. No. Because at my wedding, just a little insight, we did what they call the salt covenant.

1:24:31 And that's where you take salt from your bag, your wife puts salt from her bag, and they put it in a third bag. And they say, only way you can separate is you can get your salt out the bag. Oh, I've not heard of the salt covenant. Right. So that's kind of like, no, I mean, there's no unbreaking this bond. And that's just, I think that goes per religious, you know what I'm saying? Whatever your religious beliefs are. But that's the state can't come in and say, oh, yeah, you're married or you're divorced. Right. But if they see you like corporations, that's saying, oh, it's a corporate merger that we're sanctioning. Ah, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Which goes to your thing about interstate commerce.

1:25:15 Yeah, which goes back to the market. Yeah, which is why you have to get a marriage license. Oh, goodness. Right. So let's go ahead and get in the 13. By the way, I married my wife for her money. Trust me. That was a smart move on my part. The system of white supremacy is deliberately designed to cause all the non-white people of the entire planet 24 hours a day, every day, to be confused, monumentally confused, in all of the areas of people activity

1:25:55 in everything that they do. So that's just a part of it. It's all to be expected. It's routine. All kinds of contradictions. 24 hours a day everywhere, all the time. Contradictions, contradictions, contradictions, mass chaos, mass confusion. Anything that will keep the darker people of the planet from focusing and being successful on accomplishing anything of constructive value. Period. Forever and ever and ever and ever.

CHAPTER 27 / 53 Discussion

The Creation of the Orange People

The hosts introduce the concept of "Orange People"—a segment of the population being "othered" and marginalized due to their support for Donald Trump or MAGA ideologies. They link this to recent events in Brazil, where protesters were labeled "Trumpian" and "insurrectionists." They argue that this global categorization is used to strip rights from anyone who opposes the established order.

donald trump· maga· brazil· insurrection· social credit

1:26:39 Well, that's pretty concise. And they're just going to ratchet down to different groups. And it's going to be subgroups now. That's why I brought it to points on last couple of shows of the orange people. And I'm, and that shows coming. It's, I've made, I've been making four shows at once. And you can see like the bleed over from the last show to this show. And then you're going to see it, you know, saying the next couple of shows. But that's where they're creating the orange people. Yeah. If you if you believe anything that Donald Trump said, you're orange now. Yeah. Because you can't, you can't be white and believe that.

1:27:19 Got a jingle for it. Which, as you say, they say they call it white supremacy, but it's like, what's the premium? They wouldn't have to ask if it was supremacy. It's confusing to talk about, to be honest with you. And that's the magic in it. That it hurts your head. So it's actually, it's actually a mistake if they move it towards orange people. Because what do you mean? Well, it kind of breaks the white supremacist color association. They're simultaneously doing it. They're making, quote unquote, this orange way of thinking. This is my turn, orange. Yeah.

1:28:04 Just so just to clarify for people that this group of people, this group of white people are being sectioned off and segmented and their rights taking away because of their beliefs. Whatever their beliefs are. So that makes them a person of color now, which their color is orange. Well, I think they're moving it towards orange. It was MAGA. Now it's Mega MAGA, Ultra MAGA, and then it'll be orange. They have to move it to something outside of MAGA. MAGA because they're using a brand that they shouldn't be using. So I think you're right. It'll be towards. How about this? Brazil just had

1:28:45 an election. A lot of people didn't trust the election. They literally have signs, show us the source code of the voting machines. Every single news report about the Brazilians protesting this, going into their Congress congressional buildings. It's Trumpian. It's MAGA. You know, they took a cue from us. It's the same people who are going against authority and they're being lumped together. And of course. But you can't go against authority. Right. But they're saying, oh, no, it's Trumpian. It's, you know, it's an insurrection. They're insurrectionists. So something that's completely unrelated to the United States.

CHAPTER 28 / 53 Discussion

Counterintelligence and the Spooked Herd

The tactics used against the Black Panthers and the Proud Boys are compared as examples of counterintelligence and subversion. The hosts suggest that the "Orange People" are being backed into a corner to be eliminated or silenced. They argue that the system wants the "herd" to remain compliant with vaccines and "science" while isolating those who refuse to go along.

cointelpro· proud boys· black panthers· vaccines· science

1:29:26 Somehow, this is now a category of people that is worldwide. And that is you go against the established order, and then you are put into a group that is a global group. And that really, I have to say, that freaked me out more than anything I've seen in a while is how easy that went. And what they're doing is they're forcing those people in the corner that the black people have been already in. It's like, that's why I was like, they start with us. You've always said that, Bo. You've always said they start with us, but they're coming for you. And I think it was episode two that I realized they're already here. COINTELPRO. That was just the dry run for what's going on now.

1:30:08 Counterintelligent, you're saying that's what it called. It was for counterintelligence propaganda, identifying leaders, subverting leaders. You see the same thing with the leader of the Proud Boys. Now he's cooperating. We saw this with the Panthers. So if you already went through it, it's like, I know what's coming. And they're just slowly backing the orange people into that corner because they don't want you around anymore. And it's like, we're going to take your privilege away. If you don't want to go the way we're going with all the agendas we're pushing, you are not smart enough to be in our group.

1:30:45 That's the boil down of it. You are not intelligent enough. And that's why you hear terms like Neanderthal being thrown around and troglodyte and all of these things that you have to be some kind of subhuman person to believe the backwards thinking, backwards is another word they use, regressive. Listen to the terminology because words matter. They're telling you what they believe. That's backwards thinking. Which I don't believe they're trying to get rid of those orange people. I honestly believe what they're trying to do. And this is what I believe. The powers that be are trying to get rid of the people they don't want around.

1:31:28 And that's not the ones that's under attack. It's the ones that buy into it. That's the ones they don't want around. Right. They're telling the orange people, like, shut up. You're blowing the cover. Let them take the jab. If you don't want the jab, don't take it, but just shut up. You know what I'm saying? You're going to wake up. You know what I'm saying? You're going to spook the herd. We got the sheep right where we want them. You know what I'm saying? We got them five, six jabbed up. Shut up already. Wait, we have a job. Where was that? We had a good one for that. It's been around for 100 years. It's so funny that we still have the here. It goes. Shut up already. It's science. I had that jingle for over a decade.

1:32:08 And that's what it is right there. Shut up already. It's science. Don't take it. Eat your healthy food that you grow. Eat your health. Don't eat the poison. Don't eat the soy. Don't eat all of this. Don't take the shots. And your kids will be the only one around. Maybe grandkids. It might take two generations, but it's going to work out in the end. And then we'll rebuild from there. But if you're a just person, you got to say, even though I'll benefit from this in the long run, I can't go along with it. Yeah. What a great question. What a great system. What a great system. The media and the internet and the media really helped this system much more than we realize.

CHAPTER 29 / 53 Discussion

Malcolm X on Media and Thought Control

Archival clips of Malcolm X explain how those in power use the press, radio, and television to control the thoughts of the masses. The hosts apply this to modern doctors who are rebranded as "providers" and forced to follow rigid protocols. They discuss the professional consequences for those who dissent, including deplatforming and the loss of medical licenses.

malcolm x· media manipulation· thought control· deplatforming· medical providers

1:32:48 And Malcolm X wonders about the media manipulation. Number 14. Never let your enemy tell you how many of you there are. Never let the man that you're against form your opinions. This is the trick that's played on everyone who's oppressed. The first thing, an occupation, when you have a revolution in the country, the first thing you take over is the radio. And then you start telling the people and everybody, the war is over. Amen. So all of them surrender. No, they believe that thing right there. And once they take that over, they start telling you where you are and where they are. And you fall right in line. It's plain thought control. The majority of the American people.

1:33:29 people aren't segregationists. That the majority of the American people aren't imperialists. But the government is. The structure is. The power faction is. So, how then do all the majority go along with it? Because those who sit in power over the television, over the radio, and over the press is constantly telling those who are the masses how free they are and how this they are and how that they are. This is new. We haven't played these clips, I don't think. This is new. I've been holding this one. What, for 88 episodes?

1:34:07 All right, thanks. Not that long, but no, but because everybody heard him go in on the media, and like a lot of times, some of this stuff doesn't pop up. That's the great thing about the information age: that people are constantly loading up things into the what you call the ocean, the digital ocean, yeah, the digital ocean. And if you fish in the digital ocean, you might catch a fish every once in a while. But he's telling you it's the control of the thought, and it's the way it works: okay, we'll benefit some of you if you play alone. And that's why a lot of these doctors don't want to say anything about COVID. It's why a lot of these scientists don't want to say nurses, whoever, because they're holding

1:34:50 and they get made examples of. They get deplatformed, they get thrown out, they get fired, they get smothered, and then they're basically hung up. You know, it's like, oh, look at look at this. This is what happens to you. And more than that, because I went through it, is when you've worked at something and you can't call yourself that anymore. Like, who a doctor, if he's not a doctor anymore, what is he? A provider. Like, I mean, what I mean, he's prided himself on doing the hard work, going to school, you know what I'm saying, achieving the goal, and then to lose that

1:35:30 because you want to be a rebel. Most people are not going to take that offer. It's like, well, I don't even know. I'm just going to take care of me and mine. I don't even think doctors are trained the way doctors were trained anymore. And they are literally called providers. Ask your provider about this. Your medical provider. So they're providers. They're passing on when words matter. They're providing something, but they're not necessarily providing, you know, they're not looking at the whole patient. They are diagnosing, prescribing, therefore providing. That is today's doctors. Most not generalizing, but we saw it.

CHAPTER 30 / 53 Discussion

Pharma vs the Arms Industry

The hosts debate whether the pharmaceutical industry or the arms industry exerts more control over society. They conclude that the military-industrial complex owns politics, while Big Pharma owns the media through advertising. They criticize the circular flow of money in the Ukraine conflict, where old weapons are sent abroad so that new ones can be purchased with "fake money."

pharmaceutical industry· military-industrial complex· advertising· ukraine· patriot missiles

1:36:06 We saw it. And you go outside of that and you're done. And that's why you have laws in California where you can't even legally go outside of the medical system, which, of course, is as old as the road to Rome, this, you know, the pharmaceutical industry, which is probably the best control mechanism because they got all the money. I'll ask this question because I don't know the answer to it. Who has bigger control, the arms industry or the pharmaceutical industry? Oh, close call. The arms industry, the military-industrial complex, has,

1:36:49 in my mind, complete control of politics, and the pharmaceutical big pharma, the pharmaceutical industry, has complete control of the media. So they kind of go hand in hand. Because they're similar in function. Yes. Because one, the arms industry provide. They both kill people. And they provide defense, right? We're going to provide you from, I mean, that's their pitch: we're providing you defense from enemies, foreign and domestic. We're protecting you. We're protecting you. Protecting you, right? And where we're protecting you, the medical industry is we're protecting you from the unseen enemy.

1:37:33 So they have the same mission. You know, the same sales pitch, I would say, is that we're here to protect you. But I'm curious. I would say the arms industry because I'm looking at the uniparty and they won't piss off the arms dealers. But that's what I say. The military industrial complex completely owns politics. And that goes with the intelligence community because they have the goods on everybody. Right. But the media cannot say anything negative about pharma because pharma is the biggest advertiser, pharma and telecoms.

1:38:13 But pharma, I would say, is still far. And that's unique to the United States. Most, except for New Zealand, no other country allows pharmaceutical advertising the way we do. do. So, why is that? Okay. Is that just because we're better? No. No, no. And who's the sickest? We are. We're sick. We're obese. We're dying. And if you factor in food on the pharmacy side, yeah, I think that bounces out. Yeah. You know, because like food is part of the health industry. Yeah, it's part of pharma because, you know, and petrochemical, pharma is chemical.

1:38:55 So chemicals is what we make fertilizer from, etc. So, yeah, agriculture is tied at the hip to pharma. But it's kind of, I think it's like pharma, military really, I mean, we're not really sending money to Ukraine. I mean, we're sending old crap. But you can watch this happen. We're going to send Patriot missiles over to Ukraine. They're going to fail in a, we're going to see them live on television. We're going to see these things fail. And it's easy for them to fail because they suck. You got, you know, each patriot has five missiles.

1:39:36 And then you could, you know, Iran, Iranian drones, they can send 500. I mean, it's no match. And what will happen next is, oh, we need another 100 billion to give to Ukraine because we really need better weapons. It's all money that is circulating in the military political complex. It is not even going to Ukraine. We're just sending them their old, our old crap. So we can buy new crap. Well, yeah, so we can make new money, make fake money to build new crap. Correct. Correct. All right. So let's get into part two of Malcolm. So a mistake is made on your part when you think that white people suffer the same as black people.

CHAPTER 31 / 53 Discussion

The BIPOC Label and Indigenous Identity

The hosts critique the emergence of the term "BIPOC" (Black, Indigenous, and People of Color), arguing it is a confusing label that dilutes the specific history of American descendants of slavery. They trace the term's rise to the inclusion of Pacific Islanders in minority categories. Malcolm X is quoted regarding the unique status of the "Afro-American" compared to other minority groups.

bipoc· malcolm x· indigenous· pacific islanders· identity politics

1:40:21 Or as many Jews will say, well, we're a minority too. Or the Irish will say, well, we used to be a minority. No one's a minority like we are. They didn't need civil rights legislation to solve any other minority problem. It didn't take a civil war to solve any other minority problem. It didn't take Supreme Court decisions to solve any other minority problem or legislation. It takes none of that other kind of action to solve the minority problems of these other people. The only real minority in America is the Afro-American. Sorry, it's now BIPOC. I don't know if you're up to speed.

1:41:02 Have you noticed this? Yeah, which I don't even know what that is, to be honest with you. Oh, I can tell you exactly what it is. Please help me out. Enlighten me. It's just all the other black people in America who are not descendants of slavery from American slavery. I'm from the Caribbean. My great-great-granddaddy was a slave somewhere. I'm from Haiti. It's for all other brown people. And I've seen this happen in the podcasting industrial complex, where all of a sudden it was BIPOC, BIPOC, BIPOC. You can go to the conference. BIPOC creators, BIPOC producers, BIPOC podcasts. The people who say the word BIPOC don't even know what it means. But you got to have it.

1:41:47 You got to invest in it. It's important. It's a kind of... What does that actually mean, though? I'm looking at it. It's black interracial people of color. No, indigenous people. I'm sorry, indigenous people of color. Black, indigenous. Indigenous to other people. Indigenous to what? Australia, Aborigines, Canada has Indigenous people. Haitians are indigenous. It's a color thing. It's just a color thing from other countries. It has nothing to do with slavery. It's very weird. And it just blew up. And I think part of it is the BIPOC that somehow people think that might be

1:42:29 a sexual orientation. People are stupid. They don't look stuff up. Or it could be, you know, BI means two, right? Yes. Tupac? Are you with BIPOC or Tupac? You know what I'm saying? Like, it could be a joke. That's a good one. That's very cool. It taps into that mental thing you got going on. It's all mind control. I saw it happen. It's like, what is this BIPOC all of a sudden? Where is this coming from? Indigenous. I mean, that's a loaded term right there in itself.

1:43:09 Yeah. Which nobody uses that. I mean, that goes to show you they're out of touch. And this is why they'll never be successful because. they live in their ivory tower. I think it started with Pacific Islanders. That's where it started. You know, it's like, well, we have to include the Pacific Islanders because, you know, they're part of America if you look at Hawaiians. And that quickly changed to BIPOC. Somehow, there was a bridge there. It's like maybe a couple years ago that this term really gained steam, and that was after the Pacific Islanders had to be included in the minorities.

CHAPTER 32 / 53 Discussion

Poverty of Spirit and Sanctioned Riots

Malcolm X distinguishes between financial poverty and "poverty of spirit" or human dignity. The hosts discuss how modern riots, such as those during the Black Lives Matter movement, are often "sanctioned" or granted the "privilege" to occur because they serve a larger political initiative. They contrast this with organic protests that are met with immediate state suppression.

malcolm x· black lives matter· poverty· riots· privilege

1:43:49 It missed me. So, hey, they keep trying at this, and it's not going to work. No, not this time. So, let's go ahead and get to the final clip from Malcolm. And now, when white people who are oppressed and poor, supposedly, but the poorest white person can go where the richest black person can't go. It isn't only poverty of money that we're talking about. Poverty in spirit, poverty and freedom, poverty inequality, poverty in human dignity. This is the kind of poverty we're suffering from. So that the richest Negro in this country is still poor. When it comes to freedom, he's broke. When it comes to human dignity, he's broke. This is the kind of poverty we're talking about.

1:44:31 So when you find white people who are poor with all these doors that there are open to them, any door that you knock on, if you're qualifying, it'll open. So when you find a poor white person, he's in bad shape. Yeah, honestly, I think that that is completely hidden from American view. The only time you see you really see it is when there's a riot, like Black Lives Life Matter riots after the umbrella people come through, break the glass. That's when you really see it. See what? You see real Black America, the poverty of Black America.

1:45:16 And not the money poverty, the poverty of where they can do, where they can go, what they can do, and that they are not able to rouse and steal typically the way the rest of America does. And that goes back to the privilege thing. That's when they're afforded the privilege to go riot and go, you know, because it serves a larger initiative. They're literally given privilege once the windows are smashed. You're so right. That's the key sign because we saw in Baltimore when that was organic and wasn't sanctioned, it was a total different reaction to it.

1:45:56 Right. So, yep. So, I mean, and I say all this to say, and Neely Fuller brought up this one thing. It's called Black Showcasing and White Sacrifice. And we see this black showcases when they take black people and put them, Jay-Z's buying this, and, you know, Diddy's buying this. And we gotta, you know, Neil DeCragrass Tyson, you know, they always take these people and push them to the forefront, right? And then on the other hand, they'll show you some white suffering, like homelessness. Yeah. Another one, a good one, is recently is the whole Skip Bayless thing.

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Skip Bayless and the Damar Hamlin Distraction

The media backlash against sports commentator Skip Bayless for a tweet regarding a suspended NFL game is analyzed as a "sacrifice" and a distraction. The hosts argue that the outrage was manufactured to prevent the public from asking why Damar Hamlin collapsed on the field. They view Bayless as a convenient target used to shift the conversation away from potential vaccine injuries.

skip bayless· damar hamlin· nfl· twitter· sacrifice

1:46:41 Like the way the media just jumped on him for the tweet he sent out, that was, they used that as a distraction from what the real question was. Why did that football player kill over in the middle of the game? Yeah. But when Skip Bayless says something that's logical to say, hey, I mean, he didn't say it in the most eloquent way. And for people out there, I know they're rolling eyes at me now. He sent out two tweets, which they never tell you. He sent out one tweet saying, I hope everything is all right, that kind of thing. Then he brings up the thing, like, we're in the middle of the season here. And this game is meaningful, you know, and then he even ended off with this kind of thing.

1:47:23 But it's a throwaway tweet. People might get outraged for it, but they said we need to use Skip Bayless and an example to take the distraction away from the real question of why that guy fell down and had to be given CPR and make it about Skip Bayless. So they'll take one person and quote-unquote sacrifice them. We talk about sacrifice all the time here as a distraction away from something else. Did you by any chance see the opening of the Golden Globes last night? I did not. Do you mind if I just give you a quick little taste?

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Golden Globes Ratings and Media Decline

The 80th Annual Golden Globe Awards, hosted by Jerrod Carmichael, saw a massive decline in viewership, falling to 5.4 million from a high of 18.5 million during Ricky Gervais's tenure. The hosts discuss the general decline of the film and music industries, noting that people are no longer consuming mainstream media at previous rates. They cite "Top Gun: Maverick" as a rare recent success.

golden globes· jerrod carmichael· ricky gervais· top gun· movie theaters

1:48:07 Jared Carmichael, Jared Carmichael was the host. And if you recall, last year, the Golden Globes were not. were not televised because they were deemed racist. So, here, let me see if I'm lucky enough to get this right off the bat. Let's see. Welcome to the 80th annual Golden Globe Awards. I am your host, Gerard Carlmichael. Gerard, sure. Gerard. Sure, sure, sure. And I'll tell you why I'm here. I'm here because I'm black.

1:48:56 So he goes into this whole routine and really explains the whole backstory. And it was really, I don't know what to think of it. And there were, and of course, she was, you know, the first four awards: black, black, black. You can just white people. Woo! It was the whole thing. It was really messing with my mind. Because the media industry is in trouble. Yeah. As far as we're not consuming, and I say that overall, people are not consuming media, movies, even music at the rate they used to. Correct. And this is one of the things they broke with COVID that they don't know how to fix.

1:49:41 When you got rid of the movie theaters, concerts, brought in streaming, brought in lots of streaming. And you saw your newscasters at home in their kitchen away from the magic lights and cameras. It's like, oh, they're ordinary people. And this goes full circle to what you're talking about with independent media. It's like they don't have the charm, the natural charm to, you know, come across on a to entertain. Just to entertain. Well, it's unprofessional. That's not the word I was looking for, but amateur or unprofessional platform and still be entertaining. Well, these guys are corpse.

1:50:24 Corpses. Well, let me tell you how bad it is. 2019, the ratings were Ricky Gervais, 18.5 million viewers. Then they went to 2021. That was now that was, I mean, everything was down, 6.9 million. They didn't do a 2022. So this is the 2023, 5.4 million viewers. Mo, there's more people that listen to MoFax with Adam Curry than were watching that damn show. And I don't even believe that 5 million number, to be honest with you. I'm with you. I'm with you. Because if you poll the people that you know and ask

1:51:08 and say, hey, did you watch the Golden Globes? I mean, I didn't even know they were on, to be honest with you. But I'll ask you one more question before we get into this break: what's the last movie you say, I want to go see that? Top Gun. And that came out, what, two years ago? No, no, it's the latest one. Oh, yeah. About a year ago in the theaters, I think. Yeah. That's a problem. I didn't watch it in the theater. I mean, I wanted to see it in IMAX, but no, of course not. I want to see it at home. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And that's one of the few movies that was successful. Except, of course, Black Panther. But I don't even think that was successful.

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Value for Value and Episode 88 Feedback

The hosts explain the "Value for Value" funding model, which relies on listener donations rather than corporate advertising. They read feedback from a donor regarding episode 88, which touched on Henry Ford and the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion." The segment emphasizes the importance of independent funding to maintain the show's ability to discuss controversial topics.

value for value· bitcoin· podcasting 2.0· henry ford· elders of zion

1:51:49 According to their numbers, it was. It was the blockbuster. Okay. And just because people have seen it, I'm with you. Just don't mean they liked it. And that's the other thing is that, you know, just because you've seen it don't mean you liked it. Yeah. That's for sure. But you know what? They do like they liked the MoFats Adam Curry show. So, right, let's see how much they like us. First, the white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro. And the so-called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of the white man. Then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved.

1:52:33 That's the only way that they'll ever do it. And we've been doing it for 88 episodes. This is episode 89. And so happy that everyone is still supporting us as you probably figured out, certainly from this episode, there's no way that any type of corporate money or advertising would be appropriate for this show. It would literally not be appropriate for us. So we use the value for value system. If you're interested in learning more about that, value4value.info. It's number four, value4value.info. And it kind of works like this. If you got anything out of this program, anything that we did, we'd love for you to send that back. that back to us

1:53:11 in numbers. Literally, you can do it with PayPal. We have a cool way to do it with the censorship resistant Bitcoin through Podcasting 2.0. And of course, you can find out more about it by going to mofax.com or mofundme.com. I'll take you right to the donation page. And we kick it off today. Man, we got some big ballers today, I would say. We kick it off with Benjamin Naidus right at the top. Paula, Sat Carla, 20 inch Blaith, On the M Paula. 193.33. Interesting number. Let's see if we can figure out why he did that. Added treasure for episode 88, he says. At the Cath Jew, Amsterdam made me think back on this episode about Henry Ford.

1:53:54 Oh, Amsterdam, that's the, is that a series or a movie? I think it's a... I'm not sure. Yeah, I think a lot of people have been telling me to watch it. So it must be a movie. Made me think back on this episode about Henry Ford and the quote, the international Jew that he published. More digestible than the OG SARS disinfo protocols of Elders of Zion from 1903. Yeah. I'm hitting fellow Hebrews in the mouth right now. Some of them are genetically 13th tribe. Can't wait for the episode about Hebrews, Hebrews to Negroes. Is that planned, Mo? Maybe. Maybe. Russian protocols originally were published with Image of Babylon God Baphomet.

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Executive Producer Credits and Donation Reads

Adam Curry reads the names of executive producers and donors who supported the show via PayPal and Bitcoin. Significant donations from "Sir Lurks-a-lot" and others are acknowledged. The hosts discuss technical improvements in Podcasting 2.0 apps like Fountain and Podverse, which now allow users to purchase Bitcoin directly within the app to support creators.

paypal· satoshis· lightning node· executive producer· mofundme

1:54:35 Oh my goodness. And he has a Wikipedia link there to Sabatai Zevi. All right, Benjamin. Well, everyone's welcome at our party, man. Thank you so much. Good to have you here. Executive producership for you for this episode. $150 from Anonymous. No note. We appreciate that. No note. No note. Timothy LePes, $100. Wanted to give you a big boost to show my appreciation. Oh, he's talking about a podcasting 2.0 boost. Seem to have liquidity issues with your Lightning Node. Very technical. So he said, here's some fiat fun bucks instead. Sir, lurks a lot, and whatever was broken was fixed. And we'll get to that in a moment because the boosters are big today. Catherine Bishop, $60.

1:55:17 Well wishes coming your way. Right back at you, Catherine. Thank you. We have Brett Hahn, 5333. And this was for show 88. Mo, first-time donator, long-time listener. Please D-Deadbeat me. Yes, of course. Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat. Thanks for keeping it real. Love your perspective of life. Righteous. Growing up, my best friend was a black woman with her family being my second family. I'm a white dude. So I thought I knew a thing or two about the black experience, but after listening to your show, I clearly don't. Thank you for peeling the layers back for us white folks to get a real perspective on the struggle and really on how deep evil runs in this world.

1:55:58 Keep breaking them spells, my man. All love, fam, from Brett. Hey, Brett. This benefits everybody because we're on deck as we've learned. Ariana Hartsock is in Dallas, Texas. $50. Thank you, Ariana. And Jill Woods is our last associate executive producer with $50. Love what you guys are doing. Excited for the new year of new shows. May I please have some Mo Karma? Yes, you may. You've got. Mo Karma. So with Podcasting 2.0, the entire idea is you can send us little bits as you're listening, little bits of micropayment.

1:56:38 So if you think you just want to support the show with a dollar an hour, or if you hear something you really like and you want to let us know that you really liked it, you can boost it with as much as you want. Send us a little note with a boostogram that works with the new podcast apps. You can get one at newpodcastapps.com. And we had a big upgrade in the past couple of weeks. For those of you who may be new to Bitcoin, and it's not crypto, this is specifically Bitcoin. Now the Podverse, Fountain app, and Breeze allow you to buy Bitcoin right in the app with a card. So you can send it right off to your favorite podcast. We recommend MoFax with Adam Curry, of course.

1:57:17 And Sir lurks a lot. He said that it didn't work, but man, he boosted us big time on the PayPal side and on the 2.0 side with three donations. The first one, 654321, so 654,321 Satoshis. The second one, equal amount, and a third one with $321,000. So that is without a doubt. Paula, Satkala, 20 inch Blaith, On the M Paula. Well, over a million sats. That is very much appreciated. He says, Adam and Mo, thank you so much for the show. I can't begin to say how much I'm learning and broadening my perspective. Thanks to you too. This is something special and needed.

1:58:02 I don't have enough sats to show my true appreciation. appreciation. Take this as a token. You'll see more from me. Much love to you, brothers. Well, you did it, man, and we really appreciate it. Dreb Scott. That's a whole lot of sets. That's a sack of sats right there. Dreb Scott came in with, just so you know, one Bitcoin is 100 million Satoshi. So, you know, he definitely, you know, you're over a million sats. That's that's getting up there. We appreciate that. Dreb Scott, who does all of our chapter work, and he is included in the split, but he sends it right back to us from Castomatic. He boostograms us with 200,001 Satoshis. And he says, Feeding the Fax Machine to see if any new shows pop out.

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Sports Antics and Prime Time Prayer

The hosts reflect on the Damar Hamlin incident, noting the rare sight of a "prime time prayer circle" on national television. They discuss the irony of public prayer being embraced by the media after years of discouraging it in sports. The segment concludes with additional "boostogram" reads from listeners using new podcast apps to send micropayments.

damar hamlin· prayer circle· nfl· podcasting 2.0· satoshis

1:58:44 It worked, Dreb. Keep doing that. They pop out when you do that. Oh, there's Sir Lurks a lot with another 100,000. Just the same message. So thank you, brother. You sent it a number of times through all different avenues, I can see. Murray N, 100,000 Satoshis. I don't do sports, but I do enjoy deconstructed behind-the-scenes sports antics. Yes, that was big for me, too. I got a lot of people. What about a timing on that show? Could it be any better? Wow. I was just amazed by that. Like, do a football show, and then one of the biggest events in football history happened right after we released that show.

1:59:25 Can I tell you what my take on that was? Because it was a little different for me. Yeah, I would like to hear that. I want to share it with you because here's what I saw: I saw a prime time prayer circle. Now, how often do you see that? Prime time. It's the biggest slot on television outside of the Super Bowl. And all of these big men, black, women too, anyone who's a part of the teams, they're all kneeling in a prayer circle where just four months ago, some high school coach does a prayer circle and he's excoriated and this is ridiculous and we can't have this and this is all wrong.

2:00:11 And then the guy lives. I'm just saying. I saw that. I didn't even see it in the vaccine light. I'm like, wow, that was pretty big. Something that is. And just to add to that, the fact they captured it on television and allowed it. Go to show you how nervous they were. Yeah. Yeah. It was, it was, there was something very big that went on there. And I'm glad he's okay or it's going to be okay. He's like, God, he's alive. Let's put it that way. I guess prayer works. We got Hendrix with 88,888. Where's my episode 88? He says, well, you got it. So I guess you liked it. Appreciated it. Merlin from Fountain with 59,542.

2:00:56 No note. And then we have, let me see, I'm looking for the ones with the notes. Sir Dwayne Mellon Song. There you go. Sir Dwayne. He's a Grand Duke of the No Agenda show. He comes. Hunter, hunter, hunter, huna, hun. Oh, you're right. What am I thinking? I let it happen last time. I know, I know, I know. Please. I can't. I know. I should have been prepared. I should have prepared. You got to put some respect on her name. Here we go. Ladies and gentlemen, I present the Grand Duke of the Pacific Northwest, Sir Dwayne Mellonsoff. And he sent in a number of 33,333s, and all he asked for was Wusa. Wusa.

2:01:43 Thank you, Lon Baker, for your 30,000 sats. 20,000 from Clark, who says don't stop. Blake T. Collins with two booster grams, 19,955. He said, emptying my prod friend wallet before I forget about it. Well, good. You should always empty your wallet towards us or your PayPal for that moment, for that matter. C Dubs, 10101. Thank you, C Dubs. We got Sir Doug. Happy New Year. Love the show with 10,000 sats. We have one, what is this? One Inalin1, big love from Hawaii. That is 8,010. Dave Ackerman, always, always supporting us with the boob.

2:02:25 8008 value for value episode 88. A lot of eights for him there. And then we had Taviha, who sent one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 $5,000, $5,000, $5,000 Satoshi boosts and had a number of different messages. This was an eye-opener. As always, great stuff. Always enlightening. Thanks to the Dream team for an amazing episode. 5,000 from Bilbo. Thanks for all you do. Love the show. I learned something new every show. That's Bill. Oh, that's. let me get it right. Bill Boutot, Botot. There you go. Give me a pronunciation guide. Botaut must be New Orleans.

2:03:11 We have Strategic Tax Advice LLC. Thank you. Sent us 3,000 sats. Happy New Year from Sandasing. B2. Let me see. Do we have a name here? I love the shows, but these podcast 2.0 apps are difficult. They crash left and right even after you go through the rigmarole of setting power permissions. I'd love to be able to boost you in real time. Unfortunately, the apps have trouble. Yes, we're working on it. We're making it better. Freedom always requires a little bit of extra work and an extra step. I hope you bear with us. And it seemed to work. So thank you very much. And then the final ones, up to a thousand sats. Great show. Happy birthday, Mo, from user7307. Long number. Cats be cool with a thousand. Today I learned I helped create a super baby.

2:03:57 Dave Popol. Well done, Mo. Great episode. And Counts of FSF. True Equality, Mo. This was such an epic callback to separate but equal. I did not see this coming. Man, crazy how I grew up hating Sanders to the degree I did. He had betrayed the 49ers. Dion was seen as a prima donna, attention whore. He danced in the end zone. All right. Well, that's the way you feed it back, brothers and sisters. Thank you so much. And we have to, unfortunately, just for time's sake, we can't be doing anything under a thousand Satoshis. So make sure that you up the boosts when you do that so we can get you in. But a very good showing from the podcasting 2.0 apps now that we are getting the more stable and you can actually purchase your Bitcoin right in the app.

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Groupthink and the Challenger Explosion

A psychological breakdown of "groupthink" explains how the desire for harmony within a group can lead to irrational decision-making. The hosts use the Challenger space shuttle disaster as a historical example. They argue that elites use groupthink to make people feel "special" while actually leading them toward a 93% chance of being excluded from the future global population.

groupthink· irving janis· challenger explosion· group cohesiveness· population control

2:04:43 We are very, very appreciative of that. Thank you so much for supporting episode 89 of MoFax with Adam Curry. And again, go to mofax.com or mofundme.com if you want to get straight to the donation page. And we'll be thanking some more people in just a moment for Mofax with Adam Curry, episode 89. Well, since you are so knowledgeable on the subject of mass formation, I think we can go jump over 18 because it's just a reiteration. Yeah, a reiteration of what you laid out even better than she did. And we're going to go straight into groupthink. And this is from a video from the Challenger explosion and the effects of groupthink on that.

2:05:28 But I think it provides a little bit more insight to the actual subject of groupthink. Simply stated, groupthink is a mode of thinking in which group members' premature striving for agreement somehow overrides their ability to realistically appraise alternative courses of action. What happens in the early 70s, renowned psychologist Dr. Irving Jacks first identified groupthink and theorized it could be brought on by something he called group cohesiveness. Well, basically, a cohesive group is one whose members are very positive in their feeling toward the group and are very strongly motivated to retain their membership in the group.

2:06:13 One of the consequences of high cohesiveness is a tendency for the members of the group to try to strive toward agreement. And this is a concurrence-seeking tendency that is at the core of groupthink. Okay, I'm curious to see how this fits in with the Challenger explosion. Well, they don't get into the Challenger explosion. I was showing you how Groupthink sets up. Oh, yeah. And it's just wanting to stay part of the group. You know, it's the... Don't make waves. Yeah, don't be ousted. Don't be shunned from the group and I'll go along with it. And then you stop the question what the effects of the group are.

2:06:56 And the reason why I'm bringing that up is the powers that be, the lizards, they'll make you feel like you're part of the group. You know, they'll make you feel special. They'll make it attractive to join their group. But they're always going to have different groups as the out group or the bottom. And that's, I have to say again, it starts with us. But once they, if they're successful with eliminating us, there's going to be another bottom. And then they get rid of that group. Then there'll be another bottom until they get to that 500 million number out of seven.

2:07:39 And it's not about the number that's important. It's the percentage. You know what I'm saying? We're talking 7% if I'm not, if my math is correct. And more than likely, there's a 93% chance that you're not going to be in that group. Right. And you mean in the United States specifically or globally? globally? The world. If they say 500 million out of 7 billion. Yes. There you go. Yeah. 93% chance you're not going to be in that group. And that's why I'm bringing this up. It's like they're getting rid of a lot of us. Of course they are. They're chipping. We know this. They're chipping away. They're trying to kill us one way or the other. It doesn't matter. Useless eaters, cannon fodder. No good. So now this goes back to how his race

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Patriotism, 9/11, and the QAnon Slur

The hosts discuss how the term "patriot" was used to enforce groupthink after the September 11 attacks, leading to the cancellation of figures like Bill Maher and Rosie O'Donnell. They argue that the label "conspiracy theorist" has been updated to "QAnon" to marginalize anyone who questions official narratives, including those surrounding the JFK assassination.

bill maher· rosie o'donnell· jfk· qanon· conspiracy theorist

2:08:23 mass formation, they use fear of black people, of brown people all around the world. You know, they did it with the Middle East, you know, with 9-11. Nobody really questioned what really happened on 9-11. It's just that it's Osama. You know, it was Osama and Iraq got pulled into it. Yeah. And that group think, you know, caused mass formation, and everybody was scared not to be a patriot. I remember that. It was like, oh, the worst thing you could be is not a patriot. Yeah. Well, Bill Maher, Bill Maher at the time, had a show politically incorrect is what it was called. And I think two weeks after 9-11,

2:09:09 it was like live in New York. And he was talking about, oh, these cowards, these cowards who came in and flew those planes. And he said, well, let's be honest about it. They flew planes into these buildings. They weren't really cowards. There was something else driving them. Oh, man. He got canceled for years for that. For years. Rosie O'Donnell, too. I remember she, you know, she said something that just questioned the narrative. I mean, you go back to JFK, the same thing. You got caught. That was the OG conspiracy theorist. Yep. What were anybody that questioned JFK's assassination?

2:09:46 Now we're seeing that the information is coming out that whatever conspiracy theorists were thinking was possible is now plausible. Yeah, that's why they're changing the slur from conspiracy theorist to QAnon. Yes. With that QAnon thing, that Q, I saw it unfold and I was like, we all know that that was weird, but it's not even what they say it is today. No, that's the thing. It's just that, once again, they create a group and that group is the problem.

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Predispositions for Groupthink and Global Ostracization

The conditions for groupthink—insulation, stress, and external pressure—are applied to the history of Jim Crow in the American South. The hosts note that "othering" based on visual characteristics is a global phenomenon, citing the treatment of Pakistanis in the UK, Moroccans in the Netherlands, and the religious conflict between Protestants and Catholics in Ireland.

jim crow· ira· pakistanis· moroccans· social isolation

2:10:25 And then they can lump you into that group. Even if you question anything like, oh, should we be wearing masks? Oh, you must be a QAnoner. You know, you must be down with Q. It's like, no, maybe I want to breathe my own exhaust. But I want to belabor the point. So let's go ahead and get into this second part groupthink. Since Dr. Janice first developed the groupthink hypothesis, psychologists have discovered a number of additional factors that can predispose group members to engage in groupthink. A highly insulated group with restrained access to outside ideas, a stressful decision-making context, such as that brought on by budgetary restraints, external pressure, or a history of recent setbacks.

2:11:12 So I believe this is why the southern whites were the obvious people to use in the groupthink to push Jim Crow to like, it was basically Jim Crow 2.0 and the civil rights movement because things in the South, they were what they were, but when you come in and start instigating and causing chaos, that made this group that had already lost the Civil War and was suffering from poverty feel like their position in life was shaky. So I think that's why they use them as the ideal group for groupthink.

2:11:55 Now, people might be taken aback by saying, oh, how can Mo and use the clip of Malcolm X saying no other person is oppressed like black people? It's the fact that our reason for being oppressed is not hidden. You can't hide it. It's out in the open. That's the difference. I don't think that's other than the Indian caste system, which I think, you know, poorly understood, but it certainly is real. Right. And the fact that you can see it. Like I said, I don't know all the world affairs and groups, but anything that you can see

2:12:36 and be ostracized off of visual, just off of visually. But it's Mo, it's everywhere. In the UK, it's the Pakistanis, or it was for a long time. In the Netherlands, oh, it's the Moroccans. Before that, it was the Turks. Turks. Before that, it was the shoot. In America, it was the Irish for a while. I mean, it always changes. I was just about to go there because maybe you could tell me, I don't know about this. Is the IRA versus the British or whatever that is? Yeah, that was Protestants versus Catholic. That was basically religious war. I'm just saying they were really like actually blowing each other up

2:13:18 in our lifetimes. Yeah, in the 80s, in our lifetime. So that goes to show you the power of groupthink. So I just wanted to bring that up. But now we're going to get into why black people may be seen as the group that you need, the untouchables, the group you need to stay away from. This is Riz Islam. He was one of the Disinformation 12 dozen that was originally. Yes, Disinfo Dozen as published by your government. Right. So he's going to get into the origins of mental health and he's going to explain a condition that supposedly black people suffer from that

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Benjamin Rush and the Theory of Negritude

Riz Islam, a member of the "Disinformation Dozen," discusses Benjamin Rush, the "father of American psychiatry." Rush theorized that "negritude" was a form of leprosy that caused dark skin, providing a "scientific" justification for segregation. The hosts highlight how this historical medical racism is often omitted from modern biographies of the Founding Fathers.

benjamin rush· negritude· leprosy· psychiatry· segregation

2:14:05 could justify being segregated and separated. Benjamin Rush, known as the father of American psychiatry, a white man here in America who from the University of Pennsylvania started to say things like, well, black people, for example, have a mental disease called Nicritude. It causes their skin to be dark. It is a form of leprosy.

2:14:41 And it is what makes them inferior to us. And it also makes them sick. So we need to be separated or segregated from them. Did you know that Benjamin Rush, known as the father of American psychiatry, said that nicritude is something that infects black people? And we have to make sure we are not involved with them in any way, shape, or form, or else we will become infected. He said that the solution to this, because their skin is dark and it's just horrible. And oh my God, we don't want our skin to get dark and infected. So what is the solution? We need to expose the white meat.

2:15:25 Wow, I'm looking at his wiki page and that term is not on his wiki page. I'll tell you that. Of course it's not. Of course that's a crazy Riz Islam talking point. It has to be, right? He's one of this info dozen. But what I want you to show is how that train of thought or that kind of mindset lends to the segregationists. And so now we got to go back a minute. You can listen to one or both of them, but we at least got to listen to 22 to listen to this old man and how he feels about being integrated with black people.

2:16:07 Do you think the Negro students ever will get in here? Oh, yeah. I think they'll get in here, but I don't know how long they'll live after they do get in here. That's my honest opinion. I'm talking to you, Mars. Because they cannot keep the police out here always. I don't think they got any business in here to start with. Or if the president brings in federal troops, I don't think the president has a faith. Under the Constitution, the president has any authority to send in federal troops unless our governor asks for it. They're taking all of the state rights away from the states when they do a thing like that. That's only my opinion of it. Yeah, that was real, real fear there.

2:16:52 Right, because it's for whatever reason, but scientifically back, whether black people were inferior or they carry some kind of weird disease like leprosy or whatever. And just for the back that up, I have proof that that's not some weird talking point. This is from the Monticello or Monticello, how you want to pronounce it, dot org. It was in the Americans observations intended to favor a supposition that the black color, as it is called, of the Negro, is derived from leprosy.

2:17:34 So this guy thought Rush thought that Benjamin Rush thought it was some kind of weird leprosy that black people sell. There's your farm, Big Pharma. Right. And the justification for that was to say, oh, no, they're not inferior, but this would be the justification to stay away from them. So it was like he was pro, he was anti-inferior, but pro, they suffer from a condition that justifies being separated. Right. And this is science. This is the doctor pushing this. Science. So weird. And then when it, you know, when stuff gets into the, you know, the lexicon, it just rolls down and like, oh, black people are contagious.

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Rewriting History and the Hamilton Programming

The hosts criticize the Broadway musical "Hamilton" and mainstream media for "rehabilitating" the image of figures like Benjamin Rush. They argue that portraying Rush as a progressive abolitionist is a form of "linguistic violence" that ignores his racist scientific theories. The musical is described as "programming" for New York elites to adopt a sanitized version of history.

hamilton· lin-manuel miranda· benjamin rush· abolition· mike pence

2:18:20 Well, but how about that? During COVID, everything I heard, oh, yes, black people suffer much more from COVID. Right. There's a lot of people. But that was the setup because they knew they were going to get the most resistance from us because of the jab. Right. But it worked on multiple planes. Right. So now I want you to listen to the cleanup job that they do in this next clip. I think this is CBS, Good Morning America. This is 24. Gotta love that song. Lynn Manuel Miranda put his favorite founding father on the map with that Broadway hit.

2:19:11 It was called Hamilton. We know all about it. But what about some of the lesser-known characters from the revolutionary era? Well, the author of a new book argues that one in particular deserves to be remembered: a doctor and signer of the Declaration who championed progressive causes that remain topical today. Benjamin Rush was, first of all, sort of the founding father that people haven't found yet. But author Stephen Free thinks it's high time America did, with good reason. He had very quietly helped write the proclamation that set off the Boston Tea Party. He had written one of the first major abolition writings.

2:19:52 And after independence was won, Rush refocused his fight against slavery. How much of slavery impacted his legacy? Well, interestingly, so he wrote one of the first of the founding father writings on slavery against slavery. He owned a slave for about 10 years after the war. We have really no idea why. There's been speculation that he bought a slave because some abolitionists bought slaves to free them. I couldn't find enough evidence that that's why he did it to say that. The abolition movement kind of stopped during the war. It picked up again in the later 1780s when it did Rush freed his slave. Was that Lynn Manuel Nariega? No. Someone else.

2:20:35 Wow. That's kind of weird. You see how they rewrite history? Yes. No mention of his scientific work on black people suffering from this weird form of leprosy, but we have some information that may lend to him being an abolitionist. Yeah, he bought a slave to free them. I got you. No, but he said we don't have any evidence of that, but I'm just going to throw it out there that maybe he released them. But this is the rewriting of history right in front of our face. And that is violence, as we know. And Hamilton is the most violent because it rewrites so much of

2:21:20 the quote-unquote history that went on at that time. And that's why I left that part of the clip in: is that people that think that they go see Hamilton? They think they know what happened in those times. But if go ahead. I have not seen Hamilton. I really don't have a desire. The reason why is just the fawning of New York elites over this turned me off to it. Hello. That's called the Alley Up Mo. I'm a slam it all. Thank you. You have to go to see Hamilton to be reprogrammed.

2:22:03 That's the thing. If you want to be in our group, in our ilk, you have to go be reprogrammed to what history was. And forget what you read about Benjamin Rush or who or Hamilton or whoever else. Or I think that was the relationship. They had covered the relationship between Sally Heming. What was her name? Drawing a blank here. The black Sally Hemmings? Hemmings, that's it. Yes. I think she's covered in there as well. I haven't seen.

2:22:39 seen it, but I think I've read somewhere that they cover that relationship in there as well. But all of this, they had to rewrite everything because the whole system was based off of racism, i.e., white supremacy. Now they had to go back. Oh, Benjamin Rush, he was an abolitionist, we think, because we think he let a slave go that he may have bought. Totally ignoring the fact that he probably wrote one of the most important pieces justifying racism against black people. Right. Wow. That wasn't in the movie reviews I watched or the theater reviews. I didn't see any of that. They didn't mention this. Of course not. But I'm glad you spotted that.

2:23:20 You're saying that Hamilton was programming. And if you didn't see it, it's like, oh, you have to see Hamilton. Oh, you haven't seen it, huh? Oh, Mike Pinch, you have to get out of here because you know this program is not for you. Yeah, you're no good because you're orange. Get out. Yeah, you're right. Right. Which why he had to go and do a whole rehab of his image. Yeah, that was a very powerful mojo that was created here. Which is powerful. Yeah. So now we have to go and look at the other side of the relationship in southern blacks.

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Southern Black Life and Mutually Assured Destruction

The hosts discuss the unique social structure of the Jim Crow South, noting that many Black communities were highly insulated and self-sufficient. They introduce the concept of "Mutually Assured Destruction," where Southern whites understood there was a limit to how far they could push the Black population before facing a violent response. They argue that Northern "instigators" often upset this delicate social balance.

jim crow· segregation· integration· samuel l jackson· southern culture

2:24:01 And this is a clip I was going to put into the last show, but I just can't squeeze it in. But I spoke on it, and that's the relationship. Even regionally, the relationship between blacks and whites is different. The northern blacks and whites have a different relationship than the southern blacks and whites. So these next two clips are going to cover what the relationship was like between black Americans in the South. Why didn't people get angry? There was every reason to be angry. And if you look back now at the pictures of black life in the Jim Crow era South, I get angry right now.

2:24:43 People weren't angry, at least for two reasons. First, people who are severely oppressed generally do not lead slave revolts against their masters. Those who lead the revolts are rarities. Oppression does not create mass outrage and contempt, which leads to violent action. Generally, what happens is that in a very repressive and oppressed society, you get docility. And that doesn't mean that the people who are oppressed are unaware that they are being oppressed.

2:25:23 Of course, they understand that, but they also understand another thing: that there are terrible risks which must be run in order to challenge that system. That the black man or the black woman who stands up and denounces the absence of participatory democracy at the county level will end up in a gutter or be killed or be run out of that county. And that's a reality. That every young black boy and girl who grew up in the Jim Crow era South understood. Yeah, still going on today with the talk.

2:26:00 Correct. But one thing I don't think he understands is that separate with equal is more favored in the South because you have the numbers. You can have a whole community. That's like growing up. Right. My whole street was black. You know, we had a black church. Only time I seen white kids was when I went to school and I got off the school bus and I saw black kids. So it wasn't that need for integration because everything you needed. I mean, we had our own corner stores that, you know, we could walk to and, you know,

2:26:38 just it was very insulated. I don't think growing up in the North is like that because you have to cross so many different borough, I mean, not boroughs, but neighborhoods and blocks and that kind of thing. And it's different ethnicities on every block. It's simpler too because the politics is only black and white. When I was growing up, I think you might have had one Hispanic kid, one Asian kid in our school, maybe. But the politics was pretty much set. And there was an understanding, which he's not going to cover in these clips, but I'm going to lay out. It's called Mutually Assured Destruction. Like

2:27:20 the Southern whites understood that. Like, if you push them too far, then we're both going to lose. Because it's only so far you can push human beings to the point where it doesn't matter if. if I lose now because I have, you know, damned if you do, damned if you don't. Right. It's that it's you push me to a point like if you offend my woman or that kind of or harm my child. It's like that, was it time to kill with Samuel Jackson? It's like certain crimes or certain actions is going to is to the core of me being a man, I'm going to have to respond and I don't really care what the consequence is.

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Respect for Elders and the Meat Smoothie

Southern Black society is described as historically conservative, with a profound respect for elders and gradual change. The hosts contrast "diversity"—where different cultures coexist like a "stew"—with "multiculturalism," which they describe as a "meat smoothie" where all distinctions are blended away. They argue that this forced blending is an unnatural tool of social control.

conservatism· elders· multiculturalism· diversity· melting pot

2:28:04 Like Will Smith. Yeah, that's a good example as well. Once you cross that threshold, then you don't know what to expect. So it was racism in the South is very oppressive. It's very, it's just like an understanding. Like, you stay on your side, I'll stay on my side. And that's why I said that the North Northerners coming in, they upset that structure because really in the South, we were trying to build our own thing, not to be a part of something else. So let's go ahead and get into 26. The second factor was a factor of what I call respect.

2:28:49 And that is the Southern black life, Southern Black society was profoundly conservative. I don't mean in the sense of the televangelists of the 80s. I mean in the sense that black life was conservative in that people had a profound respect for the elders of the black community and for authority within the Afro-American community. That the elders said one thing, you listened to older people, you respected them. To be old meant to have acquired a body of wisdom or knowledge. And the sense of the older Afro-Americans was that change would come about at best only through gradual means.

2:29:34 Yeah, we don't have any respect for any elders anymore, I don't think. I think that's a thing of the past. And that's the point I was trying to illustrate was that gradual means is that my life is going to be better than my parents' life, but my kids' life is going to be better than them. And if we stayed the course, then we would achieve the goal. There's no shortcut. But once again, you have people coming in from the north and people that had ulterior motives coming in and citing this, and they really upset that structure. And what it did was just kicks it hornet nest and they go home and leave this destruction behind.

2:30:18 So I just wanted to lay that out because we have to understand the mindset of these people. You got one side that, oh, we need separate bathrooms and water fountains and all these facilities because black people carry the disease and they're nasty and they're dirty and this kind of thing. And the end of the day. And then you had a whole other side. It was like, yeah, let's just all get along on the other side of the street. And to be honest with you, that thought was inverse. You know what I'm saying? Like, we don't really want to be around white people like that because they're different or whatever, you know, that kind of thing. Because I remember my dad was like when he went, got, you know, he got sent to integrate school. He was like, man, they came to the prime, they had blue jeans, dirty blue jeans on, cowboy boots.

2:31:02 You know, like they were dressed to the nine. Like, it's totally culturally different. Different culture, sure. But you want to merge them together, you know, and it only can end up in a, in a, and I'm not pushing for segregation. What I'm trying to push for is whatever's natural. And everything these scientific white supremacists do is unnatural. It's forced. It's in a controlled environment. It's changing your words and definitions and changing everything that comes natural to humans. They want, you know, they want to turn it on its ear. What is that incessant need

2:31:41 from all sides, intellectual sides, really? Whereas, you know, because it's like for me, I've always, America's the great melting pot. And I've always thought, no, it's a stew. It's a stew. He got some potatoes here. He got some carrots over there. I'm going to go visit the potatoes. I want the potatoes to come look at my carrots. There's some beef over here. And together we're a beautiful thing. But I've never really seen the need to have it all completely all one. It seems boring to me, honestly. It's easily to control. That's just my analysis of it, that if you have one way, it's easier to control. They don't want a variety of thought.

2:32:28 Yeah, hence the multicultural. multi-culture child of the future, which is what you see in all the ads on television. Correct. And it's not diversity anymore. I mean, it's multicultural. Yeah. Diversity went out the window. Diversity was the Trojan horse. Like, you know, oh, we're all going to be a diverse. And, you know, like you said, we can have some Chinese food and some Indian food and some soul food and some, you know, you would literally go to Chinatown to have that or to, you know, literally to have that, et cetera. But then when they said they didn't tell you, you didn't read the fine print that it's a smoothie. We're going to throw it all, we're going to throw it all in the blender. And it's like, I don't want to drink that.

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Malcolm X on Integration and Human Dignity

Archival audio of Malcolm X critiques the goal of integration, arguing that Black Americans should focus on building their own economy and institutions rather than "begging" to participate in white society. The hosts apply this to modern college campuses, questioning why students demand "safe spaces" in environments where they feel unwanted instead of attending Historically Black Colleges and Universities (HBCUs).

malcolm x· martin luther king jr· integration· hbcu· safe spaces

2:33:11 You know, it's a meat smoothie. It's like, go for it. What you don't like Chinese food? What you don't like Indian food? What you don't like soul food? It's like, no, I don't like them all together. You know, where they're just, you know, they're indistinguishable from each other. But that's the fine print is that they're going to let you have it all, but it's not going to be what you think it's going to get. So going back to Malcolm X, he talks about integration. Is it dignity? As long as we sit around here trying to pray to the white man's God and go to the white man's church and enter the white man's school, we'll be brainwashed by the white man's educational system and we'll continue to look down upon ourselves and we'll continue to be a beggar to him because we'll continue to think that he's superior to us.

2:34:01 Instead of the Negro leaders having the black man begging for a chance to dine in white restaurants, the Negro leader should be showing the black man how to do something to strengthen his own economy, to give himself an independent economy or to provide job opportunities for himself, not begging for a cup of coffee in a white man's restaurant. Dr. King's goals are quite different from yours. He believes in integration, complete integration of society. No, well, that's where Dr. King is mixed up. His goal should be the solution of the problem of the black man in America. Now, not integration. Integration is the method toward obtaining that goal.

2:34:40 And what the Negro leader has done is gotten himself wrapped up in the method and has forgotten what the goal is. The goal is the dignity of the black man in America. He wants respect as a human being. He wants recognition as a human being. Yeah. So it's the goal and the method of that's why separate were equal was like, okay, we can have our own dignity and we can make sure our children maintain their dignity. You know, but it's like, no, we want, you know, we want integration at all costs. So how, so how does this fit into today's colleges where we have black students saying, okay, we want to have our own dorms.

2:35:28 We want to have our own this or own that. Is that separate but equal? Is that no? Go to HBCU. If you want to go to have a black dorm or you want to go if you want the black college experience, you can't go into somebody else's campus and say, oh, I want you to change it to this way. And they're only put up and propped up by this just to be inflammatory and destructive and cause chaos. That's why I said, who's sending them? Who's prompting these people to think that they can think like this? You feel me? I mean, like, I mean, because naturally, if you want to be around people like you, y'all can do that anywhere. Why do you feel like you need to have this whole? It's really just like reverse racism.

2:36:12 And this goes back to white suffering again. Yeah. It's just like we got to show, okay, look at these few college students over here. They're saying, oh, they want to have their own student space. Safe space. That's what I was thinking about. Their own safe space. If you don't feel safe, why are you in that environment? That's the mind screw that I never got it. It's like if you went to this college and you had to have a specific location to feel safe, why are you there? Do you hate your own so much that you rather feel unsafe around your own or get around people different for you than be around your own?

2:36:55 Well, I think there's also a large degree of these colleges bringing these students in with free rides, free tickets, full scholarship, et cetera, for their own diversity. And, you know, and then there's a choice. You know, it's like, well, I can get in basically not have to pay anything if I go over here. That may play into it. Yes, that plays into it. And that's the affirmative action kind of thing like that. But it's that why so? subject yourself? And this is the whole thing I think Malcolm X, where he ran counter to what MLK was trying to do. I'm not letting you throw hot coffee on me just to buy your pie.

2:37:40 That's stupid. The psychological trauma that you experience where you go to an environment that you don't feel wanted, and I'm not talking about you actually are not wanted, but if you feel not wanted, why will you subject yourself? And you're like, oh, well, I want a better education. At what cost? Is it worth going to that university where you don't feel? And I'm putting quotes around feel safe because it may not be the reality, but perception is reality. And it's like, oh, I perceive I'm not safe. I perceive around every corner somebody's going to harm me and somebody's going to hurt me or whatever.

2:38:21 Then why are you in that environment? Why don't you take that brain power and bring it to, you know, wherever you want it? Does that make sense? I mean, like. Yeah. Yeah, it makes total sense. Well, we've covered lots of this throughout the throughout the years on the episode. So yeah, for me, yeah, it totally makes sense. No, but from my mindset, like, why? Why do you want to be somewhere where you think you're not wanted? I never understood that. How about a different version of mass psychosis, mass formation? And I think in that mass psychosis, I believe, is the inferiority. It's like, who if I can just get this degree from this school, then I can think my way out of white supremacy.

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The College Promise and the Gender War

The hosts discuss how the "college promise" has failed to provide equal footing and instead created new class divisions. They explore how outside forces stoke "gender wars" and "generational wars" within the Black community to cause further destabilization. They specifically note how the financial influence of women in the Black church has shifted the traditional message and led to the withdrawal of men.

affirmative action· gender war· black church· feminism· social engineering

2:39:06 It don't work that way. It did not work that way. You know, and that just makes it. That was also the college promise for so many years. Oh, no, no. Once you have an education, then, and I mean, wasn't this once you have an education, then you're on equal footing. And we see that even with white on white. Yes. Oh, it's like that because they start doing that. What? You start hearing these statistics broke down by college educated versus not, you know, not college educated. You know, the women, the votes lean this way or that way. So they're making these groups like, oh, you're not enlightened, which I go back to saying, if you don't subscribe to their religion, you're going to be on the outside.

2:39:51 Mo, I moved 70 miles west of Austin. I'm already treated differently in Austin. I believe it. Yeah. You're out there in that hill country, huh? Yeah. You know what's out there? You know what's out there? Churches. I experienced the same thing, but not in that way. But when people came to visit me, there were a lot of Trump signs on the way to my house because there's a lot of farmers in a rural area. And people were like, you live out here? Is it safe? And I'm like, yeah. I'm like, have you ever heard of GBG? You know what I'm saying? Because when you live with all your rights, I'm going to push it to the limit. It's like, whatever my rights are, I want all of them.

2:40:36 So my right is if somebody come over here tripping, whatever Rocco leaves, you put a cap in that thing. Right. And you know what? And I don't have peace of mind with that. As far as when you have all your rights and you're willing to exercise all your rights and keep your dignity and don't live in fear, there's peace in that. I don't live afraid. I don't live foolishly either, but I don't live afraid. No, that's just not my DNA. We have a dollar. Exactly. Exactly. So let's go ahead and get into 28. Now, if integration will get him that, all right.

2:41:22 If segregation will get him that, all right. If separation will get him that, all right. But after he gets integration and he still doesn't have this dignity and this recognition as a human being, then his problem is still not solved. Well, isn't this exactly what Dr. King is looking towards? And that is the day when the Negro will be treated with dignity. Wasn't this, after all, the result of the Montgomery bus boycott? No, because I don't think you can having an opportunity to write either on the front or the back or in the middle of someone else's bus doesn't dignify you. When you have your own bus, then you have dignity. When you have your own school, you have dignity. When you have your own country, you have dignity. When you have something of your own, you have dignity.

2:42:04 But whenever you are begging for a chance to participate in that which belongs to someone else or use that which belongs to someone else on an equal basis with the owner, that's not dignity. That's ignorance. Mo, do you feel that this has changed in your life now? That you have dignity? dignity in that way that Malcolm X describes here? No, I think it's worse. I think it's actually worse because we don't even have communities anymore. Like we're so blown to the four winds that we don't even have anywhere where we can go to have community. Except church, possibly. Yes, except church, which church is shrinking.

2:42:48 Yes. And it loses its power because it's beholden to the LGBT, to the feminist movement. Yeah. That the message has to change to accommodate. And I know we got to go to the next statement. I was just one point. This is where no man in the house and elevating the black man over the black woman over the black man starts to play out because now who has who's the who's the financial base in the black church? It's the black woman. So now the preachers have to lean and tailor their message to what is susceptible.

2:43:26 What's acceptable, not susceptible, what is acceptable to whatever they want to hear, which is no different than any clergy, you know what I'm saying? But that's what's happening here, which men caused men to withdraw even more. And then there you have it. Right. And that's probably not reversible at the present time. Well, it is because eventually what's going to have to happen is that if men hold strong, the order will be reset.

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Final Donation Reads and New Money

The hosts conclude the donation segment by thanking individual contributors like Gregory Kierdak and Reggie Roberts. They discuss the transition from physical cash to digital currency and reiterate the importance of the "Value for Value" model. Listeners are encouraged to use new podcast apps to support the show's mission of deconstructing social engineering.

paypal· satoshis· value for value· mofundme· digital currency

2:44:04 And this is why it's so important that we identify when it's outside forces that's causing the gender war and the generational war, especially in our community. And that's why I try to do like, it's not us fighting each other. You know what I'm saying? It's somebody, it's outside forces that's making us think that we're each other's enemy. Yeah. So I'm optimistic. Okay. I'm an optimist. Good. Good. All right. I'm very optimistic because we like new money. We love it. Even though it's going away, there's not going to be that crisp $100 bill anymore. It's going to be digital. I like brand new money. I just, I don't want any money around me. It's not. I'd almost rather have a new one

2:44:48 than an old 20. That's kind of dumb. But there's something about new money that excites you. You like $100 bills? Oh, man. I like old money too. Oh, most beautiful thing on earth is a $100 bill. I haven't seen a woman as good looking as a $100 bill. There's something about $100 bill that excites you. Well, we only have a few more people to thank, but it's incredibly important that we thank everybody in the value for value model or as much as we can. Because if I see Gregory Kierdak with $33.33, that can be a lot of value for him. And that's all we ask for is that you return the value that you got out of MoFax with Adam Curry.

2:45:28 And we appreciate that, Gregory. Mark J. Asher, 23. Now we have $20 from Alejandro Alocer, Matthew Weaver, Melissa Reeve, $15.33. Got to love the Magic 33. $10 from the following people, Aaron Sneed, Arsenomics, Bo Baldwin, Benjamin Barlow, Christopher Bellier, and Dave David Jones. I don't know if that's our Dave Jones. That probably is, Dave Jones. Jacques DeLille, 10. And SV, also 10. None of those had a note. We did get a note from Johnny Hipwell with $9.99. Don't know what to say anymore, but wow. Thanks. Thanks, Johnny. I have the same very often after this show.

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CHAPTER 48 / 53 Discussion

Julius Rosenwald and the Tuskegee Institute

Julius Rosenwald, the president of Sears, Roebuck & Co., partnered with Booker T. Washington to build thousands of schools for Black children in the South. This partnership is cited as the foundation of the Black-Jewish alliance that fueled the civil rights movement. The hosts contrast Washington's "ground-up" approach with W.E.B. Du Bois's "Talented Tenth" theory, suggesting the two were intentionally pitted against each other.

julius rosenwald· booker t washington· sears roebuck· tuskegee institute· black-jewish alliance

2:47:35 Okay. So these were, it was this Jewish gentleman named Julius Rosenwald, and he built these schools in the black community. He also did a lot of funding of Booker T. Washington, which I didn't know anything about Rosenwald or his schools. And the interesting thing is, I have now have to go back because my grandmother's grandparents' old house was a former school. I'm going to look in to see if this house was one of the Rosenwald schools because it fits the description. So it's just funny. Go ahead. You say he was also part owner of Sears and Roebuck.

2:48:19 Yes, that was how he made his money. Interesting. But let's go ahead and get into this. This comes from one of those morning shows. And it's just fascinating when I found out about him, but then I had to go deeper. 30. They became known as Rosenwald Schools, named after wealthy industrialist Julius Rosenwald, the president of retail giant Sears. This is an important southern story. This is an important American story. This story transforms America. Photographer Andrew Feiler is telling that story in black and white. A story that grew out of a friendship between Rosenwald, the son of Jewish immigrants, and noted educator Booker T.

2:48:59 Washington, founding president of the Tuskegee Institute. From Tuskegee, the Institute which he founded. Together, they sought to reverse years of inequality in education because of slavery and segregation. This story are the pillars of my life. The relationship between Julius Rosenwald and Booker T. Washington is the foundation of the Black-Jewish alliance that becomes a pillar of the civil rights movement. In 1912, they launched a pilot program building six schools in Alabama, requiring local communities to donate the land and raise matching funds. What were they trying to defeat? Schools started off as being segregated.

2:49:42 They were trying to get through that part. What does that do to a child? Well, to me, that would dishearten them and give them a make them feel like they didn't matter. So she said schools were segregated and they were trying to get through that part. So he built these schools for black children with the help of Booker T. Washington, which Booker T. Washington was more of we need to build up from the ground up, you know, have tradesmen and build the foundation from the bottom up, which the counter to that was the talented 10th, W.E.B.

2:50:21 Du Bois, was you need to elevate 10 to talent 10% and then they'll pull up from the, you know, saying top down kind of thing. Which here's a psyop right here. You need both. You know, but they made it one ideology versus the other ideology, which I think it was by design. Because if you get all the engineers and the doctors and all these things like that, where are your nurses and your construction people and plumbers and electricians going to come from? Right? That's literally the problem we have now.

2:51:01 Correct. So if you have, but if you only have plumbers and electricians and all these things, who's going to make the grand design, you know, for what's going to be built? So, so, but if you pit those two against each other, it's going to be a community divided. And that's what's happened right now. Is that's what the division is. It's like one, it's still to this day, you know, everybody, like half the people are, oh, no, we need to, you know, we need this show of what they call black excellence. You know, we need to have the Diddies of the World, which is nothing but racial showcasing. You know, that's excellence for you. Right. Diddy and Jay-Z and Obama, which was a big one, right?

2:51:44 Obama, you know, which I can't take away from what the importance of Obama was, was it made people start thinking, oh, we need to start thinking on a bigger, grander scale. That was, that was the good part of Obama, but the bad part was everything else. It's like him not being actually black, black American. Well, that, and then also the fact of he was, he was handed. handled. I mean, we know his story. We heard what George Joe Brown taught us about Obama and his relationship with the Bush family and the intelligence agencies and everything like that. So, but with every bad, it comes from good. It started the conversation.

CHAPTER 49 / 53 Discussion

Legacy Builders and Communist Remakes

The hosts discuss the legacy of Rosenwald schools, which educated leaders like Medgar Evers and Maya Angelou. They claim the anthem "We Shall Overcome" was a "remix" of a spiritual created at the Highlander Folk School, which they characterize as a communist-affiliated institution. They argue that philanthropic "monument builders" like Rockefeller used education to shape society to their will.

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2:52:26 They're like, okay, we need to be further. If we, you know, we need to start thinking on a bigger scale. So that's the thing about the Rosenwald schools. But let's go ahead and get into the second part of this clip. Why don't we know this? Julius Rosenwald was a very modest man. He did not want to, he did not name these schools Rosenwald Schools. They become known as Rosenwald Schools. One of the reasons why we don't know the Rosenwald name as much as we know the names of some of his philanthropic contemporaries, like Carnegie Rockefeller, Ford. They were monument builders. They were. He was a legacy builder. Yes.

2:53:04 That legacy is still being felt. Many of those educated at Rosenwald schools went on to higher education and in turn educated future generations. We shall overcome. And prominent leaders of the civil rights movement, like Medgar Evers, Maya Angelou, and Congressman John Lewis came through these institutions. I didn't know that. Huh. And you heard the programming, right? We shall overcome. Yeah, or we shall overcome. Which we know was written at, I can always forget that school in Tennessee.

2:53:44 But you know what I'm saying? This communist school out of Tennessee where that was written at. So they always love to throw that in there because they say it's a trigger, a racial trigger. Oh, big trigger. I'm trying to figure out. Where was that? It was. What was that, Tennessee? What was that? Highlander Folk School? Highlander Folk School. That's the one that Rosa Parks and MLK were noted as attending, which that's where the song was written, which most people, if you ask them, Matt, they think it's a Negro spiritual, but it was a remix and a rework of a Negro spiritual.

2:54:28 Let's go to the violent Wikipedia, shall we? So We Shall Overcome is a gospel song, which became a gospel song. A gospel song would be something from the gospel. Interesting. So I don't think it's a gospel song, which became a protest song and a key anthem of the American civil rights movement. The song is most commonly attributed as being lyrically descended from I Shall Overcome Someday, a hymn by Charles Tindley. That's the rework. Yes, it is. But they had to punch it up, you know, to make it more jingly.

CHAPTER 50 / 53 Discussion

Rockefeller and the Transformation of Education

Before compulsory schooling laws in 1852, the U.S. had a literacy rate of nearly 100%. The hosts argue that the Rockefeller and Carnegie foundations transformed the education system to produce "obedient workers" rather than independent thinkers. They reference the Norman Dodd investigation, which revealed a plan to alter the teaching of American history to favor a globalist agenda.

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2:55:05 And that came out the communist school. So when I start hearing Rosenwald's name thrown around with Rockefeller, I'm like, oh, and they, and it's going to get deeper, their connection. We have to understand what Rockefeller was really trying to do with his work in the quote-unquote black community. Well, let me guess. He was creating a pipeline for his businesses. A little darker than that. 32. Rockefeller made sure to get the better end of the bargain.

2:55:43 He would donate his great wealth to the creation of public institutions, but those institutions would be used to bend society to his will. As every would-be ruler throughout history has realized, society has to be transformed from the ground up. Americans in the 19th century still prized education and intellectual pursuits, with the 1840 census finding unsurprisingly that the United States, a nation that had been mobilized by tracks like Thomas Paine's remarkably popular common sense, was a nation of readers with a remarkable 93% to 100% literacy rate. Before the first compulsory schooling laws in Massachusetts in 1852, education was private and decentralized.

2:56:26 And as a result, classical education, including study of Greek and Latin and a solid grounding in history and science, was widespread. But a nation of individuals who could think for themselves was anathema to the monopolists. The oiligurges needed a massive obedient workers, an entire class of people whose intellect was developed just enough to prepare them for lives of drudgery in a factory. Which is literally George Carlin's one of his final rants where he said, it's a big club. You're not in it. All they want is obedient workers. And to keep you just well enough just to perform. perform the task they want you to.

2:57:07 And that's for all people. Correct. And Rosenwald had the task of doing that with his schools. At the same time, Rockefeller was also funding the talented Timpside. With Morehouse and Spelman and other HBCUs, he backed with his money. But the goal was to shape education in the way he and his Robert Barron counterpart saw fit.

2:57:43 It wasn't long before Carnegie's Endowment approached Rockefeller's foundation with a proposal to cooperate on their shared desire to transform the American education system in their own image. Norman Dodd, the director of research for the Congressional Committee who was granted access to the Carnegie Endowment Ford Minutes, explains. So they approach the Rockefeller Foundation with a suggestion that that portion of education, which could be considered domestic, be handled by the Rockefeller Foundation, and that portion, which is international, should be handled by the endowment.

2:58:26 And they then decide that the key to the success of these two operations lay in an alteration of the teaching of American history. So they approach four of the then most prominent teachers of American history in the country, people like Charles and Mary Bird. And their suggestion to them is: will they alter the manner in which they present this subject? And they get turned down flat. So they then decide that it is necessary for them to do, as they say, to build our own stable of historians.

2:59:14 Okay. If we can't buy it, we'll build our own. We'll build it. Yeah. And that's what we're seeing now: we can't buy the scientists off, or we can't buy them off, or they won't go which way we're going. We saw this with the, what was it, CDC? Or one of the, they kept replacing the board until they got the votes that they wanted to push. I think it was like the juvenile shot. Oh, yeah. People dissented. I don't know if they replaced it. I think they just ignored them, honestly. I think on several occasions they replaced the board. Oh, that's possible. Or members of the board.

CHAPTER 51 / 53 Discussion

The Liability of Knowledge and the Cliff

The hosts discuss the "Trusted News Initiative" and the impending social credit system. They argue that while the masses are being led "off a cliff" through poor food and medical mandates, those who are "enlightened" and healthy are seen as a liability to the system. They conclude that their mission is to inform as many people as possible, even if they cannot stop everyone from following the "Pied Piper."

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2:59:56 It's possible. Well, I mean, but this happens everywhere. That's like the Lisbon Treaty, the Constitution of Europe. You know, Ireland voted against, and they went back and said, excuse me, Ireland. Think you want to try that again? Because you do that wrong. And they voted yes. Whatever the coercion is, it's strong and they know how to do it. So I say all this to say that we've seen in real time the rewriting history of Benjamin Rush, the rewriting the history of whether suppression of mass formation itself. Oh, well, Google has to look in to see if you can get the information on there or not.

3:00:41 Let's make sure we can give you some palatable information that we approve of. Well, it's the Trusted News Initiative, is what we have today, which is a group that literally approves that the social media companies turn to to say, is this okay? Can this be posted? And it's usually medical stuff. And that's comprised of Reuters, Associated Press, the big news networks that are all pretty much owned and controlled. Yeah. And I'm a firm believer that this may be liberal now, but it's going to go ultra-conservative in the future.

3:01:23 Like everything's free right now, pornography and all drugs or whatever else. But when the literature get tired of that, then it's going to go super 1940s, 50s conservative. I honestly believe that that's where the social credit score and all that, I believe, is going to go. Oh, man. That's why I'm afraid of it. Not that I even agree with what they're pushing. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, okay, security test. I would say.

3:02:02 first, they have some work to do, and that's taking place right now, and that is making us very weak. And they're doing that through food. That is the first step. We are still too strong. When you say we, everybody. And that's where I think I differ in opinion. They're making who needs to be strong stronger. Well, I'm seeing no evidence of that in the food that is being literally created. I'm seeing no evidence they're making. Well, the food for the masses, yeah, it's trash.

3:02:43 And it's going to be bugs soon. But that's what I said. But when I say we, that's who I'm talking about. I'm talking about who the ideal citizen they want for their future is still going to be eating bugs. I don't think so. Look at what Texas Slim is doing. Oh, people that actually care about their body and it's smart and enlightened. Those are the ones they want to stick around. I think this is the biggest mind screw ever. Oh, I see what you're saying. Interesting. They want people like me and you to stick around. It's like, y'all get it. But you got to shut up, though. Like, you got to knock it out telling everybody else what's going on.

3:03:26 Like, just eat your healthy beef and shut up and let them eat bugs and take 99 boosters and they'll be dead soon. And then we'll, you know, then we'll be okay. Yeah, but it's the shut up part that's the problem. That's why me and you are doing it because we neither one of us can shut up. I can't knowingly see somebody about to walk off a cliff and stop them. And me and E-Class talk of this all the time. He's like, why do you care? Because he's kind of person like, if that's what your choice is, go for it. You know, I mean, he'll stop you if he could. But me and you obsess over making sure people are informed.

3:04:08 Yeah. That's because I don't want to live with them. I want to live with cool people who are healthy and healthy in body and spirit and also are able to discuss things. So there's a conflict coming, whether they want us to be strong or not. There's conflict coming. My motive is a little different because if I know something and I don't tell a person, like the blood's on my hands. But if I tell you and you still go through with it, then I can at least say I tried to warn you. But if you walk off that cliff and I don't stop you, then it's like, oh, that's on me.

3:04:47 And that's why I come here every, you know what I'm saying, every show and try to let people know it's not what y'all think it is. The mass formation is not what you think it is. The people that's in formation are being led right off a cliff like the Pied Piper. You know, they're taking them right off the cliff and we're going to be left behind. And if we were cold-hearted people, like, hey, we got our got our beef stacked up. We got our guns stacked up. You know, we're not feeding our kids this. We're not letting our kids watch this or be taking part of this agenda. So it's for the best. Because you could easily go there once your heart grows callous and cold.

3:05:29 It's like they deserve, like, give them more boosters. Like, we would be pushing. If we were cold, we were like, you need to get more. You could have mine and yours. Take them all. If we were trying to eliminate people, but that's not. Well, that's not who we are. Where we come from. Right. And that's where we become a problem because it's like, you know, but you won't go along with it. It's like these movies where like when you walk in on a, when you walk in on like the boss and they're like embezzling money and it's like, come on, take some. It's like, no, I don't want none. Like now you're a part, you're a liability because you won't become part of the scheme, but you also

CHAPTER 52 / 53 Discussion

The Leo Frank Case and the ADL

The hosts explore why Julius Rosenwald was "memory-holed" despite his massive philanthropy. They link his decline to his funding of the defense for Leo Frank, a Jewish businessman convicted of murdering Mary Phagan in Georgia. The Leo Frank case is identified as the catalyst for the creation of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and a pivotal moment in Southern Jewish history.

leo frank· mary phagan· anti-defamation league· julius rosenwald· lynching

3:06:12 but you have knowledge of it. So we're a huge liability. Bring it on now that I think about it. Bring it on. Bring it on. Of course. Bring it on. Of course. So now we got to get into this last two clips. And this is Arthur Eli Evans. And he's going to speak on why Julian Rosenwald, Rosenwald, Julius Rosenwald was not well known. Well, you know, one of the real puzzles in this whole thing is that Julius Rosenwald is one of the great Jewish figures in history that nobody knows. That's going to change.

3:06:52 So the question is really why? mean, why is this? The man did spent billions of dollars, really, everything he had to do something for black Americans. And we're at a time in history when we need him so much. You know, we, the Jewish people, need him so much. And the world needs him so much. I mean, all these people sitting around with money and with all the things that they could do. I always thought that one of the big important things about him was that he was asked to be on the Rockefeller board. And he said at that time that with sort of awe, Mr. Rockefeller sat me beside him.

3:07:32 Now, you know, I've been in philanthropy really for most of my career. And the Rockefellers thought on a big scale, always a big scale. They were not making small grants. They were, you know, changing New York City, building great planes, looking across the country at the whole future of food and the world, that sort of thing. I have a feeling that something happened to Rosenwald sitting in those. He was the only Jew on the Rockefeller board and the first Jew on the Rockefeller board. And I just have a sense of the fact that this touched him greatly, the power of what the possibility of what could be done.

3:08:12 I didn't know this one. We lost him last year, Eli Evans. I didn't know that either. He passed away according to Washington Post, complications from COVID-19, July 26th last year. Sorry to hear that. Yeah. But now I got to give you the punchline, and then we'll listen to the clip. They said they can't figure out why Rosen Wall is lost in history, even though he was hand-selected to sit at Rockefeller's right hand. The only Jew, this is that talented Tim thing playing again, playing in again.

3:08:54 Well, you know, we selected one, and we not only gave him racial showcasing, we didn't just let him on the board, I put him on my right hand. Right. The problem is, he funded the fight for Leo Frank. Now, I'll give you time to go look up who Leo. You might know who it is already, but if you, just in case you don't, it's Leo Frank. Sounds familiar. All right. So while you're looking it up, I'm just going to give you a comparison. He was basically the Jewish George Floyd of that time, like in the 19 early 1900s.

3:09:36 How you found it yet? Yeah, yeah. I'm looking at it right now. Sure. Texas. Right. Yeah, he was born in Texas, ended up living in Georgia, and he was convicted of raping and murdering a little white girl named Mary Faye. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I have heard of this, sure. And this was the whole justification for the Anti-Deflamation League. And I'm going to do a whole nother covering of this. That's where I know him from. Yes. Oh, okay. And so Rosenwald funded his defense? Yes. No, no, that's off the reservation, bro.

3:10:19 Right. Especially for that, with the, because Rockefeller was kind of in the mindset. He got canceled. Right, because he was in the mindset of, I mean, Rockefeller kind of thought like Henry Ford and those guys at that time. That was real, the Anglo-Saxon kind of power structure. And when you have, you're the only Jewish person on a board and you're backing a child murderer and rapists, that'll get you lost into the hand, to history. Now, I want to let you hear how, what's his name again? Eli Evans.

CHAPTER 53 / 53 Discussion

Rewriting the Leo Frank Narrative

In a final archival clip, Eli Evans discusses the "dark mood" in Atlanta following the Leo Frank trial and his subsequent lynching. The hosts point out inaccuracies in Evans's account, noting that Frank's sentence was commuted rather than him being set free. They conclude that the case remains a powerful example of how history is rewritten to serve specific organizational narratives.

leo frank· eli evans· georgia· lynching· anti-defamation league

3:11:02 Eli Evans. This is a long clip, so you can stop it where you want to. This is the last clip. I had to lay out the punchline first so you could see how people try to rewrite history. I can't wait to hear this. Okay, let's go. Why isn't he more celebrated? Why wasn't he embraced? Well, the thing that's so crucial about this is there was a parallel drama going on, and it was the Leo Frank case down in Atlanta. I spent a lot of time down there interviewing people who remembered the Leo Frank trial.

3:11:42 Remember the day their mother came and dragged them out of school and took them home because of how the discussion. decision ended, all of that. And it created such a dark mood in Atlanta that one, let's see, half the 3,000 Jews who lived there left the state. They didn't want to do it. It was a great migration in the South. Yeah, it really was. And therefore, the idea of embracing Rosenwald in a situation like that when they all felt threatened. As I traveled through the South, I went 5,000 miles through the South interviewing people.

3:12:27 This fear that came over them because Leo Frank was a very distinguished businessman in the city. He was very active in Jewish affairs. All of a sudden, he got caught up in this thing and the newspapers that were sort of bigoted just laid it on him. He hasn't even told anyone what happened. As a murderer, he demanded that something be done. And when the decision came down, the governor of the state would not let it happen. So he was free, he thought, for a moment.

3:13:12 But yet jailed. And, you know, the story is jail was broken into. He was taken out. He was taken up to the place where Mary Fagan, who was the young girl's name, lived and was hanged, lynched from this tree. And they left the body up there for a long time. It was a horrifying moment in Jewish history, to tell you the truth. Wow. And so you're going to do a show about this, right? This is great. Oh, that's. I did not know any of that. I think I also heard about Leo Frank from my business partner, my first business, was a Jew from Georgia.

3:13:53 And Jews in the South was an interesting history. He had a lot of interesting stories. Yes. Wow. And Eli couldn't really even say it, could he? Couldn't really couldn't. You saw how he now get it out. What was on display there was his mass formation of protecting Leo Frank. You know, he got caught up in this thing. This thing. It was the newspapers, and he was, the judge set him free, which was a lie, which was a complete lie.

3:14:32 Because according to Wikipedia, and I'm just going to go deeper into it. I'm just going to say that was an out-and-out lie because it says here, Frank's sentence was commuted from capital punishment to life in prison. So he was never free. Right. Man. But they go to show you that he played part in it, but he tried to look out for Leo Frank, and they basically, you know, saying, worm or memory hold him. And that was the genesis of the Anti-Defamation League. Yes. Wow. Yes. The only Jewish man to get lynched in America

3:15:17 on record. And they get a whole organization out of it. Yeah, which is quite an interesting organization indeed these days. Oh, we're going down that rabbit hole all the way down here. Beth, believe it. Well, I really appreciated. This was an interesting one, Mo, through the different versions of mass formation, mass formation psychosis, if you will. Let's you and I just try to stay out of those, brother. The funny thing is, we got to stay in it so we do stop it along. We can report from it, yes. Yeah, report alive from the formation.

3:15:55 Oh, man. It was a good one. I appreciate it. I appreciate that. And as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. And we will return in about two weeks, I guess, for another MoFax with Adam Curry. We hope you all got some value out of this particular episode. Go to MoFax.com, MoFundMe.com. Mo, I'll talk to you real soon, brother. Thank you so much. All right, talk to you later, Adam. Bye-bye, everybody. People moving up, people moving in white because of the color of their skin. And I boy, tooth for a tooth, vote for me, and I'll set you free.

3:16:47 The only person talking about a love man brother is the preacher. And it seems nobody's interested in learning but your teacher. Segregation, determination, demonstration, integration, aggravation, diminution, obligation to my nation. That's what the world is today. The telepills are at an all-time high. You're both walking around with your heads in the sky. Cities ablaze in the summertime. Oh, we go.

3:17:36 Evolution, revolution, not control of sinusoidal. Shooting rockets to the moon, kids going up to soon. Politicians say more taxes will solve everything. And the band bleed on. Round and round and round we go. Where the world's headed, nobody knows. That's what the world is today.

3:18:32 Fear in the air, churching everywhere. Unemployment rising bats of beetles, new rates of gas. And the only safe place to live is on the engine reservation. And the band bleed on. Eve of destruction, tax deductions. City inspectors still collect the signals. Suicide, too many bills. Hippies moving to the hills. People all over the world are shining in the war. And the band bleed on. That's what the world is today. Let me hear, let me heal, let me heal.

3:19:41 Save all of the children. Let me hear, let me hear, let me hear, let me hear, let me hear. Save all of the children.