54: Lemonhead Delight

00:10 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for November 21st, 2020. This is episode number 54. And I am Adam Curry in Austin, Texas, looking for that silky, smooth voice, the dulcet tones of the man no Mo, Mo, Mo, Mo Facts. Hello, Mo. How you doing, Adam? I thought I lost you there already. I'm doing good, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's good to hear your voice. Good to hear yours as well. I've been down a rabbit hole, but I'm finally resurfaced. The rabbit hole known as the United States election was probably where you... I mean, I got a pretty good feeling what hole you were down. But man, the only hole.

00:53 Yes. The only hole at this moment. And I'll just say, so apologies for taking a little bit longer than usual to put out another episode. But there was a lot going on and not a lot to find initially. So we were just, Mo was even texting about looking for some numbers and certain groups who may or may not have voted in certain numbers. And I knew it was going to take a while. And quite honestly, I think we got enough entertainment in the meantime just from the M5M, from the media, you know, doing crazy stuff. So it kind of flew by for me. How about you? It was the same for me. You saw a bunch of shenanigans and little information.

01:35 So if we don't have the clips or the facts, we can't present them in the show. So it was this buffering of information where I still haven't found the numbers that you're referring to is the numbers I've been watching all along is the black voter turnout nationally. Now, we've seen some numbers state a couple of state numbers, but so I guess I got a full bag. I got a super full bag. So the fact we can get right back to the wheel. Oh, yeah, everybody. Okay. He's got his bag. All four, ready to go. What's the topic for today? We've spin the wheel. Who it knows? Nobody knows except for Mo because he's got it right there in the bag. The topic for episode number 54 of Mo Facts with Adam Curry is... It's an election like no other. Well, yeah.

02:20 Like no other. Like no other. Absolutely. Yeah, we're going to talk about the election, but we're not going to talk about hammers and machines. Hey, hey, hey, hey, what's wrong with hammer and scorecard and the kraken? Nothing's wrong with that, but as you know, we like to talk about different things or the same thing in a different, from a different perspective. Yes. And in fact, I am very excited about today's episode because this is something that this is an analysis I believe you, well, you certainly haven't gotten from the mainstream. And I don't think many alternative or let's just call it free speaking podcasts have or any kind of alternative media will have analyzed very well.

03:04 So that's how I got fixated on one situation. And, you know, the over-encompassing, is the election rigged or is it not rigged? And who voted? So I took a step back as I like to do and look and say, what's going on here? So I guess we can jump right in the first clip. And this is just to set it up. This is Obama. And it's a super cut. And how important this election is compared to all the others since 2008. This is certainly the most important election in my lifetime.

03:46 I truly believe this is the most important election of our lifetimes. This is probably the most important election of our lifetimes. You get to vote in what I believe will be the most important election of our lifetimes. I know politicians always say that, but this time it's really true. One week until the most important election of our lifetime. Let me guess. Was this Obama 2008, 2012, 2016, 2008? 2018, 2012. Every single election. Yes, yes.

04:27 Every single one. And I know it's a tale of his. He'll say, I know politicians like to say he did this exact same thing with the water in Flint. Right. He drank it the first time. And then the second time he's like, this is not a prop. I know politicians like to do props like this. And he, so he's self-aware that he's coming across disingenuously, but he continues to do it. And he just says it out loud and no one questions it. That's what's so. it's kind of a CIA tactic, actually, if you look at their handbook. But let's just leave that for what it is: a limited hangout.

05:09 Yes, exactly. Exactly. In a way, it's like I'm going to give you a little truth. Yeah, it is a political tactic, but not me. I'm not using it that way. So now that we put that out there, this is not me. Exactly. Right. So we said that sets up the election. And then election night comes and it goes. And the whole M5M calls it. Which we've allowed the media to do for the past, well, in my entire lifetime. And it's based upon their numbers and their modeling and the polls. And they've got all these complicated, complicated things to figure it out so they can call it even though the votes aren't in. But it started kind of weird this.

05:54 In fact, I think I texted you and said, yo, Mo, how can Biden win in Virginia where you live with 0% of the votes in? And then the numbers showed. And then when it got to about 50%, Trump was in the lead and they had already still called it for Virginia. So I knew going in that we probably wouldn't have a winner, a clear winner that night. But I stayed up and I watched the whole thing play. I mean, I was up to four o'clock in the morning. I saw all the shenanigans unfold. I actually took the next day off because I normally do that for election because I like to stay up and watch.

06:34 I mean, it's kind of a big deal for me because I look at the election like the Super Bowl. And definitely. Even after the game's over, you stay up and you watch all the talking heads give their perspectives. And you get a lot of real emotions. Yeah, when people are tired in the middle of the night, absolutely. That's a great time to be watching. Right. So let's just get into this. The media calls it. The Fox News decision desk can now project that former Vice President Joe Biden will win Pennsylvania and Nevada, putting him over the 270 electoral votes he needs to become the 46th president of the United States.

07:16 After four long, tense days, we've reached a historic moment in this election. We have an announcement to make. We can now project the winner of the presidential race. Joe Biden is president-elect. CNN projects Joseph R. Biden Jr. is elected the 46th president of the United States, winning the White House and denying President Trump a second term. The president-elect in the United States, Joe Biden has run for president three times, and the third time has turned out to be the charm. Not only the charm, but possibly the most consequential election of our lifetimes.

07:56 NBC News said Joe Biden has won the Keystone State, Pennsylvania, and its 20 electoral votes. And through all these experiences, he became a man of uncommon empathy, a man of great resilience, a man of simple decency. Character traits that he will now bring to the office of the president of the United States. Elected at the age of 77, the oldest man ever elected president. Keep in mind, the Trump campaign is in the midst of waging legal challenges in several states, but the path is clear for the new president-elect. The biggest important lesson from this election is that 2016 was not an outlier. This is essentially the 2016 election with the Gary Johnson vote going to Joe Biden.

08:41 And here we are. I hadn't heard that one from Chuck. That's funny. And Hillary didn't actually lose. No, of course not. What he's saying. Yeah, exactly. That's what that last statement was. So let's break down. That was a lot of information. So let's start from the beginning. The first clip in this supercut was from Fox. Who started first with the Arizona call, if I recall. Exactly. Fox is leading out. And Fox is in trouble. I'm going to say that now. I think they thought they could just say whatever they said that the Trump MAGA people were going to just eat it up.

09:24 But it is a rebellion. Oh, yeah. And it's going to newsmax. Everyone's moving to Newsmax. Yeah. And it's so bad. I mean, I get a lot of my information from YouTube. And for like three or four consecutive videos, they had to turn the comments off. And they were people because the comments were blowing up. And this was Fox News clips is what people were commenting on. Yes. Any clip that was. was negative or wishy-washy about 45 Savage, if the folks wasn't having it, it would be twice as many down votes as it was up votes, and they would have to turn the comments off.

10:07 Wow. So Fox is definitely in trouble. You heard the meme in our lifetimes. So Joe's here to save us. He's the oldest president, and he got the most amount of votes ever, even more than Obama. Yeah. That just doesn't sit well with me, but it is what it is. For now. And then all the, yeah, for now. What I mean by this is it is what it is currently. Yes. We have to see how it plays out. But it was rather incredible. Yes, rather unbelievable the amount of votes that were cast in general. And then, and then the amount that Joe Biden got. That was quite remarkable. Outlier. Yes. Remarkable outlier. Be careful what we're saying.

10:52 An outlier. Yeah. So simple, a couple of things they did when they were just, oh man, they were all over Joe's. Simple decency, uncommon empathy. It's like, what? He's a uniter. He's a uniter. Yeah. And the final takeaway is: shut up, slave. The path is clear. That was the whole thing. We've called it. Yeah. And it is what it is. I find that very troubling. Well, and again, Mo, this is the American people who, A, don't even have an understanding of civics for this.

11:34 Look, we've just paper. It's, I know, not to go any too deep, but we've papered over the whole process. We're not actually voting for the president. You're voting for the electoral votes for the electoral college and the vote that then can or cannot be cast by the electoral college. This was all put into place actually as a safeguard in case something crazy went down. So the electoral college can still change the outcome of this. But that's not a great TV show. We need our elections to end around 11:30. You know, it's kind of like New Year's Eve. At midnight, you know, we have to really be getting ready to celebrate, and then the coverage can go on until around 1, 1:30.

12:14 It's been TV elections ever since I've been on this earth. And the fact is, that's all been done before the actual outcome of the election is known, which is not really until December 14th. And to be honest with you, the M5M were caught flat-footed because they didn't know how to fill that void up between Wednesday to the fourth day, whenever I think it was Saturday when they called it. They didn't know what to say. It's like, well, we're still counting. We're still counting. And I'm like, like you said, you normally call us by 11 p.m. Yeah. We've seen where it has gone.

12:52 Like in 2016, it went over to 2 a.m. But eventually it was like, we have enough information to make a decision. So this dragging out the process, it didn't sit well with me. And I have to be honest with people. Wait a minute. Hold on a second. If you're going to be honest, does that mean we got to go into hold on? Let me get the door. Thank you. Okay, it's just us now. All right. It's just us. All right. All right, Adam. So I struggle with the results of this election. Not the outcome of who won or who didn't win, but this never-ending counting.

13:35 The only thing I can equate it to is the feeling I had during 9-11. So that something was off. Let me explain that. My eyes saw what my eyes saw. Right. But then the story is telling me something different. Yeah. And that is very unhealthy. I'm just going to be honest with you. Yeah, it can mess with you. And I think smart people have this problem. It's like, oh, what is going on? Okay, I got you. Hold on. Let's open this later. It's hot in here. Can you get everybody else in? Okay. Better. Yes. All right. Thank you. So, yeah. For a few days. That was a great skit.

14:17 That was genius. For a few days, I struggled with this thing and I really couldn't. I didn't know what to think. And I'm used to it. You know, I'm kind of a day walker in a sense where I can take in mainstream media and not be affected by it. But it did have an effect on me. Of course. Not only me. Donald Lemon. And we're going to call Don Lemon from now on Donald Lemon. He's going to be tagged with the name Donald. bro. That's that's oh my goodness. What an insult for him. Donald J. Lemon. Here we go. So immediately, my thoughts went back to these protests that happened this summer.

15:01 And when I saw and heard what was happening today, all I could think of was, think of how could we not have expected that if Joe Biden became the president-elect of the United States, that the streets would not erupt after what had happened in this country. Just now, I'm just talking about the last eight months. I'm not talking about all the stuff that we dealt with before, the fake news and people yelling at us on the street and people calling me nigger and fag and all kinds of things and your fake news and all of that. Never before that I've been in this business since 1991 have I ever had to deal with the crap that I've had to deal with over the last four years.

15:43 It is disgusting. And so just over the last months, last couple of months, we have had all of that. And over the past few nights, we have been saying, we're going to give you some information. We don't know who's going to win. We're going to, America was, and they were yelling at us. Please, please call this. We are sick of it. We cannot take much more. Please. And so when the call finally came, and I saw my colleagues and I love all of them and everybody around, they're all talking about, oh, what about this and who's this? And they were, you know, Democrats didn't do this. That's not what America wanted. America needed a release valve at that moment. And they wanted to get it off their chest.

16:27 Project much, Don Lemon. Wow. I didn't hear that. People needed us. Yeah. That's right. He had to put his cape on. Yeah. Super Don. The people needed us. They needed us to be a release valve and free them from this struggle. The self-importance these people have that, oh, we just had to free the people. And then they had to clean up the COVID mess. That's what he was doing as well. Saying you had to expect people are going to go out in the streets. No matter what the outcome of COVID is. And that's another thing. It's like COVID goes away, then it comes back.

17:05 And we're going to talk about COVID, but nothing's really changed. Do you last time we talked about it? Did you get the impression that the release that valve that opened up that it was really that many people? I mean, it seemed like, you know, some cities, some city blocks were filled up here and there, but it didn't feel like it was a whole, it didn't feel like when Obama won, let me put it that way. Oh, no, it was, it was manufactured. It was actual turf. Yeah. Normally, you see these things and they'll bubble over into the smaller cities and these little satellite rallies. You saw none of that, especially for the crowd that likes to go out into the streets. You would think, I mean, I'm just, this is high-level

17:50 analysis of who goes out in the streets, but it's Democrats normally. They're quick to go to the streets and protest or celebrate. Rip down some statues. Right. And you didn't see that. You didn't see the smaller cities. No, that's my point. I just wanted to make sure. I just wanted confirmation because to me, it looked small, really. I remember after Obama won, like the garbage collectors the next day were whistling and waving at everybody. And these guys are always sour and grouchy. And it was like a happy, happy day for America. And I think that was the effect of the four-day

18:31 dragging out of it. That people just kind of, we're goldfish. Let's just be honest. Four days to keep an interest. It was on to something else. And I got to ask you, just was that by design? So you didn't get this big outpouring and it's like, oh, yeah, we won, kind of slid it under the rug. Or was it a mistake? No, four days. Okay, I have no evidence of this, but just my feeling was that in general, people knew what you knew, what you felt, that 9-11 feeling, like, okay,

19:10 I think. I believe my lying eyes. Yeah, I believe most people felt that, regardless of their belief or their party or their candidate. I think everyone was like, well, okay. You know, kind of like, it just won't look. It's good. Maybe that million dollars will still be in the bank account tomorrow when I look again. Right. It's still not over. And I think that's where people, I mean, it was very ceremonial calling, but in a lot of people's minds, it's not over on both sides. sides. One side being they think they won, but they're not sure of it.

19:51 Exactly. And they don't want to brag too quickly. And then the other side holding out hope that some kind of path can be created or some kind of evidence can be found that could change what the media is calling, but still hasn't been calling officially. And another data point there is you don't really see current senators or elected officials. You don't really see them clamoring around the Biden-Harris camp to be in the cabinet. There's names being mentioned, but no one's really out there on TV getting the profile so that they, you know, you just see this every single election. Then you see the people who want to be Secretary of State or Secretary of Defense, and they're on the talk shows, they're on the Sunday shows.

20:31 You don't see much of that, if at all. The only people who've come out are unhappy Democrats, such as Sandy Ocasio-Cortez and Bernie Sanders. Yeah, and I'm glad you brought that up because the Democrats looked kind of desperate when they went around calling world leaders and say, oh, we talked to world leaders. It's like, yeah, you called them. So the lack of confidence is another data point for me. If you want, you want. And I would be talking big stuff right now if I knew I had a solid win, but I don't feel that energy coming from Democrats.

21:13 We're in a great place. Let's get back to Donald Lemon. And he continues to be emotional. It was like a third world country, people who have been oppressed. Finally, the relief came that no longer did we have to live under this oppression. No longer did we have to live under people who pretending that up is not up and down is not down. That one plus one doesn't equal two. And so I can't help but be emotional at this moment. I'm not quite sure what I'm going to say. So forgive me. I may not say all the right things tonight. I am very emotional. And guess what? I am speaking for everyone.

21:55 But I got to tell you, when I watched that black woman come out on stage tonight, and I saw all of those people from all ages and all different backgrounds. And the whole entire theme was: everyone is welcome under this tent. Don Keembed keeping it real on the racial tip. Yeah. It's over, though. But he's saying racism's over. Yeah. The oppression is over. Systemic racism is all over. It only lasted four years. It only lasted four years, Moe. It was just a short period of racism in America. And it's just, it's all over now. It's good. Well, it was more like six years because it ended in 2008 and then it came back in 2014.

22:39 Yeah, you're right. I'm sorry. The last two years of the Obama and then it continued. Yeah, so we've been in a six-year racism. That's right. Racism. Yep. It's over. We're post-racial now, according to Don. Welcome to our world, Don. We've been this way for a long time. Right. And then he had to bow down to the black woman, the political black woman. But I find it funny. And I always have to go back to this throwback clip. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. I got to write that down. Politically black. That's a great term.

23:20 What are you? I'm politically black. Okay. Thanks. That's a good one. Yeah, I'm writing that one down. I like that a lot. So this is a throwback clip. This is from show 18. She wrote a hero. That was about Kamala Harris and when she went away, only to come back. And this is Don Lemon making the argument that she's not black, black. What do you make of her answer, April? It's good for her. You know, there's a lot to unpack here. Number one, what does black enough mean? Can someone give me a definition of what black enough is? I don't want to go down the road of the stereotype when people say we're black. Number one, she is a black woman. She's a mixed race woman. When you see her, you see her blackness, but she is also South Asian.

24:04 Her mom is South Asian, and her dad is Jamaican. April, April, April. Listen, more power to her. And I think it's great. That should be enough. It is enough that she's a black woman. We are not a model. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They did the same thing. No, no, no, no, no. I think you're not hearing what people are saying. The people who are saying is she black enough, that's bold. That's BS. But to want a distinction to say, is she African American or is she black or is she whatever? There is nothing wrong with that. There is a difference between being. African-American and being black. People, people, Latino people, are people of color, but they're not black. They're brown people.

24:48 She's a woman of color, but she is a black woman. Okay, that's why I'm saying that. I agree with that. I agree with that. But is she African-American? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. But is she African-American? There's a difference. There's nothing wrong with that. No one is trying to take anything away from her. I think you're falling. I think you're falling into a trap for that. All she had to do was say, I am black, but I'm not African-American. I'm a black man, you idiot. Wow. So that was Don Lemon talking to April Ryan, a high member of the COVID. He had a big mouth then. He had a big army. He was very disrespectful. And you hear the change. So you know he got that calling, like, hey, fix it, Don. Yeah, Don. You better fix it. Back on the reservation here, Don.

25:33 Donald. Right. That's why Donald had a total different tone when he spoke about Kamala after that point. He definitely admitted to it that he got that call from Oprah. Yes. That in one of our previous shows. No, he didn't admit it. He bragged about it. I was talking to Oprah. Oh, yeah. And I don't want to give it away. That's what he said. I don't want to give it away, but then he gives it away. Oh, Donald. So next up, we have Simone Sanders, who's a senior advisor to Joe Biden. And she's talking with Jake Tapper. And I want to

26:12 notice how easily, and I'm glad you pointed it out, politically black, how easily you can slide in and out of being politically black. Yes. And first of all, congratulations on this victory. A hard fought, long fought. I have to ask you about this moment from Vice President-elect Kamala Harris last night. Take a listen. While I may be the first woman in this office, I will not be the last. Tens of millions of women and women of color voted for this ticket. If you could just take off your politico hat for one second, I just want to ask you: as a black woman, what does this moment mean for you?

26:57 Well, thanks for having me this morning, Jake. Last night was historic, and it was just truly remarkable. You know, as Vice President-elect Harris said in her speech last night, you know, the audacity, the boldness of President-elect Joe Biden to choose her as his running mate to help break a glass ceiling that has had many cracks but has never yet been shattered. So it's truly amazing. I've had the opportunity to travel with both President-elect Joe Biden and Vice President-elect Senator Harris. And I am just in awe of both of them. And I can tell you that the American people picked a good ticket.

27:38 Picked a good ticket. Good ticket. Yep. So you see how easily she slid off her political hat and put on her black, politically black woman hat. That was a great alley there. Is she eight, actually? Just out of curiosity. I believe so. And I want to say this about Simone. And really, I think Simone's personality is so big. She really could go by one name. So she's really just Simone. She's like Simone with a Y. Yes. Well, now she also ran Bernie Sanders' campaign in 2016. Yes. Yeah, I think it was 2016. And well, let's get into that clip because you walked me right into it. And then we'll talk about both on the back end of it.

28:22 Howard Dean, you know, Howard Dean was there for that 50-state strategy. But here's the issue: Howard Dean is also on record maligning young people and millennials, telling those Bernie folks they just need to get in line and maligning Bernie Sanders. And that is not what we need, in my opinion. We don't need white people leading the Democratic Party right now. The Democratic Party is diverse and it should be reflected as so in our leadership and throughout the staff at the top at the highest levels, from the vice chairs to the secretaries, all the way down to the people working in the offices at the DNC. I think we need to have a robust discussion about this. And I think we need to hear more from all the candidates. Jamie Harrison in South Carolina, he's great too. He has done real party building, but everybody doesn't necessarily know Jamie and they want to know what it is that he stands for.

29:02 So I want to hear more from everybody. I'm here for the millennials and the brown folk. Oh, now she's brown. Now she's brown. All right. She's politically brown. That's politically brown. Yeah. So that was when she was back in 2016 campaigning for Bernie Sanders. And she was a hired political black. So her main focus was brown, people of color, that kind of thing. But when she was promoted up to senior advisor, now it's everybody. You know, it's big tent now. Big tent. Right. I have a political hat now. I don't have the politically black hat anymore. So she switched hats. And that's why Jake Tapper asked her to switch.

29:46 Take it off for a sec, will you? Yeah. Don't give me the politically, the people of color coalition answer. I needed a black woman answer from you, Simone. And as I said, I like Simone. She reminds me of that sister, like overachieving. She has a vivacious personality. And she seemed like sister used to come in, get her a fade, tighten up, you know, in the barbershop and talk to you about politics. But as you see, they, when they get sucked into this political machine, it's to move up, you have to dilute your message. That's politics. That's every group. That's every possibly every quote-unquote democracy.

30:30 But that's why we had to keep these people in check because you can't shift gears and talk for this group and then not for this group. And you would think she's there on the black agenda if there was an official one. And you think she'd be talking to Joe Biden about that. But no, she's been hired to win the election for Joe Biden. So she's going to, her first interest is Joe Biden, not the people. But she says, oh, I'm here for the brown people and the millennials. No, you're not. And I actually, I actually learned that the person who was really running the Biden campaign was not her. I think she's less of a campaign manager than we might think she is.

31:12 Correct. That is correct. But you have to have good optics when you're trying to cater to the black woman, the black woman political vote block that they have, voting block that they have. So they had to have good window dressings. Now, this next clip is an example of Simone talking to Jake Tapper from the previous clip. And this is how it goes from the brown people to everybody. I have to say, President Trump, to his credit, he got his voters to the polls there too. He won more voters in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan than he did four years ago. He won millions more voters nationally.

31:56 Obviously, you won more. But I guess my question is: how did you rebuild the blue wall? Did you get your voters in the urban centers to turn out? Was it winning over and switching suburban voters? Did you narrow the margins in rural areas? Strategically, how was it done? I think it was all of the above, Jake. If you'll look at the numbers, and I know there will be many pieces written about this over the next couple of days, the Biden coalition was, yes, suburban voters. It was black voters. It was Latino voters. It was Native American voters in places like Arizona, for example. We couldn't have won without the Latino vote, but we also couldn't have won without Indigenous people. Let's be very clear.

32:38 It was working class folks from across the spectrum. Okay. Woo! Working class. It was everybody. Yeah. So I would like to enter Exhibit A and some Georgia turnout. And this is from the New York Times article. I think I did post it on Twitter, and I'll think you'll add it to the show notes. Yeah, sure. Yes. And this is the black share of the Electric Falls in Georgia. So they had 30% increase in registration, but the actual votes didn't match. That's why she couldn't answer the question because she doesn't know how they won.

33:21 Coming out of the election, looking at the exit polls, you should be able to tell who put you over. And he asked her specific questions like, which group was it? Was it the? And she's like, oh, it's all the above. Now, they've been telling us how important the black vote was for two years. And this is exactly what it is. Now it's just all of the above. This is exactly what was missing. I have not really heard any detailed analysis of the fabled black vote. I've heard some offhanded comments saying, well, you know, because of the black vote, Joe Biden won. But I've seen zero evidence of this. And this New York Times article that I'm referring to kind of tells an

34:00 opposite of what you just stated. And you hear, oh, well, the black voter turnout was up, but voter turnout in general was up just looking at the sheer numbers. Both candidates received record amounts of votes. So naturally, you would see a larger turnout. But then they have this pesky little data point of twice as many black women voted for Trump this time around than they did last time. And I think it was up from like 15% black men to 20%. 20. So that doesn't, it's a lot of, like I said, that's why this episode was so hard because there's no really hard data.

34:39 This trick is trickling out. It's just, yeah, did you did now? Did you find any evidence that there was a withholding of the black vote? That's why you can't tell that without the turnout number that we got from Varney. I think it's a varnish. Stu Varney. Yeah. Yeah. That came out days after the 2016 election. And I looked for that same poll to see if those people did that poll again. Couldn't find it anywhere. Which, when there's no data, that gets my antennas to going. So you hear her go from

35:19 working people and people with a job and a pulse. Yes, that's who voted. And he wants to know how the heck did you do it? And I want to know the same thing, but I couldn't get an answer. So we'll leave that there and we'll revisit it once we get some hard numbers, maybe on another episode, because that was the key number I was watching for for like last year and some change. And we didn't get it. So next, it was time to call him the Wetworks. So, and that's not the normal Wetworks I'm talking about. This is the crying. We need some criers out there. So this first crier is on CBS News.

35:59 Aunt Jones, right? And just to give a little bio about him, he's off the Clyborne coaching tree. And that's a sports term for you, Adam. Just hold on. What was his name again? Ant Juan C. Wright. Okay. That's what R. Right. Yeah, I got it. I mean, W-R. Okay. So he's off the Jim Kleinbourne coaching tree. And that's a sports reference, Adam. So let me explain to you what I mean. Thank you for being so patronizing. I appreciate it. Yes. No, no, no, no. Explain that. No, I'm just kidding. We all know. Sports planning too. Yeah. We all know. Sports planning. Sports shaming me.

36:42 Right. So when you say coaching tree, that means one head coach has some guys under him, your coordinators, and they go off to be head coaches. And then they hire guys and they go out to be head coaches. So it goes back to the main person that got it all the tree started. So it's kind of like a family tree. But that's what he is. He's on the Jim Kleinbourne tree because he was a recipient of the Congress, Congressman Jim Clyborne, Congressman John Spratz Public Service Award. He's from South Carolina and he brought the Wetworks. Lon, it's so emotional for me because it's emotional for me because nobody knows what it took to get to this point.

37:26 Nobody knows what it feels like as a black man to be able to speak in this moment. And the country owes black people so much to get us here because if it wasn't for black voters in Wisconsin, Georgia, and Michigan, and Pennsylvania, we would not be here. We would not be here. And what is he exactly? He's a political pundit. And no, operative. Excuse me, operative. He's operative. Gotcha. He runs corporate and political campaigns and initiatives. This is sickening.

38:07 He had numbers. I mean, he clearly knew that the black people had done this for Joe. I mean, that was his conviction. He got all emotional over it. Right. And then he says, oh, black people, this country owes black people. Hello. That's what we've been saying for the last year. Yeah. And I didn't clip it because I could just relate a message. Jim Clyborne was in a post-election interview, and a reporter asked him, So, what is you, you brought Joe through. What is your OU? And Clyde, like, you don't owe me nothing. I'm like, bro, what do you? Yeah. What do you mean? He's like, I owe him Jim. What?

38:47 Yes. I'll get. It's all right. I believe you. I believe you. It makes no sense. The guy's a phony. So obviously, he's a phony. And then he sends out his operative to cry. It's like they couldn't have done it without us. That's what we're saying. It's called leverage. You make your demands. Now, after the fact, this is the wait to after the election. This is the manifestation of wait until after the election. We've been good to you, Democratic Party. Now, please, please give us something. And you see it from every group now. They're all coming out. They're all saying it. it. And they're not in on the master plan, clearly. It's not going to be any goodies for anybody. It's not going to happen.

39:32 It's a dark winter coming, people. And she said emotions. She was like, the reporter was speaking before he started speaking. She was like, it was so somber and reflective. He went right into leading the witness. You know what time is for, Aunt? Let's get those waterworks going. So we're talking about criers. Van Jones said, Aunt, hold my wine cooler. And let me show you how this is done. What are your thoughts? It's well, it's easier to be a parent this morning. It's easier to be a dad.

40:16 It's easier to tell your kids. Character matters. It matters. Telling the truth matters. Being a good person matters. And it's easier for a whole lot of people. If you're Muslim in this country, you don't have to worry if the president doesn't want you here. If you're an immigrant, you don't have to worry if the president's going to be happier to have babies snatched away or send dreamers back for no reason. This is vindication for a lot of people who have really suffered.

41:00 Now, we, of course, played this on the No Agenda show, and a lot of people. He's acting. I said, no, this man is not acting. That is an extremely emotional man who is emotional about anything except racism, apparently. I have an answer to that. So hold your horses on that. Let's just get into this clip. Who was missing? Black people. Black people. Muslims, immigrants, a more specific group of immigrants, the dreamers. And he's all choked up. And you know, and you know the producer had to be in his ear, like, hey, Van, Van, waterworks, waterworks.

41:47 No, you're forgetting the black people. Oh, no. I don't even think the producer was thinking of that. They were probably all mesmerized, looking at him, going, Oh, you want to, you want to bet? Play the next clip. You know, I can't breathe. You know, that wasn't just George Floyd. That was a lot of people that felt they couldn't breathe. Every day you're waking up and you're getting these tweets and you just don't know. And you're going to the store and people who have been afraid to show their racism are getting nastier and nastier to you.

42:22 And you're worried about your kids and you're worried about your sister. And can she just go to Walmart and get back into her car without somebody saying something to her? And you spent so much of your life energy just trying to hold it together. And this is a big deal for us just to be able to get some peace and have a chance for a reset. And the character of the country matters. And being a good man matters. You know, I just want my son to look at this. Look at this. You know, it's easy to do it the cheap way and get away with stuff, but it comes back around. It comes back around. And this is a good day for this country.

43:06 I'm sorry for the people who lost. For them, it's not a good day. But for a whole lot of people, it's a good day. Yeah, it's possible. That's possible that it went down like that. But I think during that first bit, everyone was just, oh, this is perfect. And then maybe it was like, screen damn, okay. Now, get back to the script. No, what I'm saying is, as he listed all the Muslims, the immigrants, the dreamers, the two clips are, and there's no time in between it. I know. So then he takes this long pause. And I think that's when they got in his ear, like, Don, you got to say the black people. Well, if you watch CNN,

43:50 it's more scripted than you think. I think that may have been on the teleprompter, but that was not his initial reaction. And maybe they got it mixed up in the teleprompter. But regardless, Mo, he was really emotional. I don't think that was acting. I'm just not. No, I believe. We're on the same, we're in agreement on that. And I have proof. I have proof. Receipts. I always come with proof. But I just want to wrap up here. So racism is over. You heard it from me. Donald Lemon and Van Jones. He called, they said that they just want to have some peace, even though we've heard for the last year, no justice, no peace.

44:29 I haven't seen any justice anywhere. I didn't get an email with my justice in it, but we got peace now. It's over. Okay. So, so I'm in agreement with you, Adam, that Van is an emotional guy. And I have proof of this, as I found in his recent interview with Buster Rhymes. So, let's just go ahead and listen to that clip. How does all that? I want to get into all that knowledge of self stuff and the way that shows up in this album and the whole journey, but you know, your father, how do you manage it now? Because my dad's the same way. My dad was tough. I'm not tough.

45:12 I'm resilient. I mean, you can't stop me. I'm going to come back. I'm going to go cry first. I'm a mumble boy. I'm going to go cry first. My mom said, Cry as much as you need to. Always much as you have to. But it was okay to cry around my mom. My dad, he wanted to see any of that. One tear, and you're going to have something to cry about. So, but same thing. Once I'm looking at him eye to eye, and he can see that I'm not going to get run over by the world. He was able to relax. And he was able to have some pride. But he was, I mean, I can see now he was just terrified that I was just going to get run over by everybody and be a victim. Huh? Okay. So he's kind of like John Boehner. Remember John Boehner?

45:56 No. No. Famous Republican. I think he was Senator. Oh, yeah. He would always cry all the time. Okay. That's possible about that. Yeah. All right. Mama's boy. Makes sense. So we got proof he's a crier, but he says that his father didn't want him to be a victim. And I think that's a real sentiment, even with my son, even with the relationship between my dad and me. Like, what? What are you crying for? Something to cry about because you can't let people see you affected and emotional. Now, I'm not saying don't cry because go off by yourself, cry, let it out.

46:34 But when you cry in front of people, I don't care what you say, it makes people look at you differently if you just let it go in public. It can be, it can be a positive depending on the situation. But yeah, it's always going, of course, any kind of emotion, anger, severe anger, severe sadness. Yeah, any of that will, of course, affect the way people look at you if they see it. It's a mood swing. It's a form of a mood swing. It's just into the mood of sadness or melancholy or whatever you want to call it. What you really don't expect, though, is now Van Jones is specifically a pundit, but Donald, Donald J. Lemon, I mean, he says that he's a news guy.

47:17 It's on, you know, both of these are on these, you know, CNN cable news network. And really, none of this had anything to do with any objective news. And I think that's where the most damage is done to the credibility of these channels. Exactly. And not only to the channels, to their talking heads. It's like, come on, Don, you're getting emotional. Van's crying. This other guy, he's like, oh man, he was, he gave, now I got to give Ant his props. He gave Van a run for his money. But Van's a pro. Van's like, let me show you how to cry, brother.

47:59 Let me just show you for a second. Hold on. Yeah, you're right. Hold my wine cooler. You're so right. Hold my wine. Exactly what it was. Exactly what it was. And just, this is why we do this is because you come here, you get honesty. You don't feel like you're being propagandized like a lot of people felt on either side over the last four days between the end of the election or the end of the, when they called it, or the four years when we've just been all this worst ever. Everything's going wrong. We're just living. So that's what we do here. And we want to thank some people. I guess we'll take a break at this time. Yes.

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51:33 That would be fruitful in the letter itself. That's interesting. Melissa, thank you very much. She says, hey, Mo and Adam, donating again is thanks for creating this catalog of podcasts, which it truly is. And if you want to go back and find them, archive.mofacts.com. We got a cool little player widget on there as well. Such a treasure trove that breaks my cognitive dissonance every time I listen. 2020 just keeps getting weirder, and it's been great to have this and no agenda to turn to. My friends have started telling me that I should stop believing things just because it goes against the mainstream and basically shut up, slave, which is truthfully quite disconcerting. But when you scroll through Twitter and all the advertisements of the vaccine that have pictures of black people in them, I think it's right to keep paying attention, as you say, Mo.

52:18 Looking forward to more. And a cool clip I sent you made it into the show. Can I please get a Mo Karma for my mom who's looking for a job at the moment? All the best from Natasia. Yes, of course we can get a Mo Karma for you. You bet. You've got Mo Karma. What clip was that that she sent? Do you remember? Which clip of Natasha? I don't remember from the last, I don't recall from the last show. But she's also very active on Twitter. Okay. Sending me a lot of stuff as well. Our next executive producer, Scott Shellhammer, $125. And did we get a note on email from

53:00 ways by the email address, by his name, and every email account I have, and I didn't find anything. So please, Scott, resend it, and we'll read it next at the top of the next show. I'm just, I have a note here from Scott Pancake. I wonder if that's him. I'm not sure. No, that could be. He did make a reference to Pancake for me. So that would be new. All right. Well, thank you very much, Scott. Let us know. Next up, $100, also an executive producer is Kaz. We know him as Sir Kaz from No Agenda. Just a little donation to thank you both for the open and honest conversation and opening up my mind even further. Any kind of dedouching is appreciated. We don't dedouch here, my friend. We de-deadbeat.

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54:22 However, when I heard you guys still discussing what to call it when a listener introduces someone else to the show, I felt compelled to finally step up, chip in, and share my idea. Gentlemen, I have the perfect suggestion for what you for what to call it when you put a new listener up on the game about MoFax. You just got served. I think that'll work. You got served. Yeah. Well, let me see. He says, Hear me out. Well, he's got you want to do the meanings of the phrase. Go ahead. We could just, it's a pretty long note. I read through it. Whatever naturally sticks, so the people will have to decide. We heard, bring them to the table. We heard spread the word.

55:08 And now we have another option. You got served. So whatever people provide back to us, I think through their notes and communication, I think that's how I would decide on what to call it. All right. I like it. I like it. First of all, yes, absolutely. The people will decide through the MoFax with Adam Curry Electoral College. Dominion Software will tally the votes and we'll find out if you just got served is the one or if it's something else. We leave it up to you, indeed. And thank you very much. To the people. To the people. To the people. And he ends his note with: if reality is a lady, Mo Fax got my bitch. Nice. Instagram has her

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56:38 I like that you don't publish until you have something ready to say. It makes each episode a welcome addition to whatever time of the week it arrives. No karma, no jingles. Best wishes to both of you and all the producers. Thank you, Tim. That's the beauty of podcasting, I guess. You know, it comes to you. It shows up when it's ready, and you listen to it when you're ready. And I did take a poll from the people I do talk to on social media and asks, Do you want a weekly? Do you want to and just present what has had or do you want to hold out? People prefer to be on a cycle, but then they like, well, if it's going to diminish the show, take your time.

57:17 So we're very fluid right now on this. But my goal is to provide, and the same as Adam, not speak for him, but to provide the best show possible. You can get a lot of random information on the mainstream media. What we like to do is cut through the narrative and show common threads and themes. Well, to take this to a value for value perspective, since we're doing the donation segment, that's what it comes down to. You know, besides having a full-time job with four kids and Rocco the dog, Mo has a day job. You know, it's

57:57 until we can replace that day job with this job full-time. It's just going to be whenever it's done. And not only that, but we internalize what's put out there in the media. So with that four-day slowdown, nothing was there. And I mean, it is what it is, but I will never give you a diminished product. Long story short. This is where I say right on. Right on. Right on. $54, club member Theodora Dorinda Ognena Ogniena. I think, I hope I'm not butchering that too bad. John Taylor, also a club member with 54, paying for the withheld votes, he says. Cyrus Esau, $54. Thanks for doing the business of the work. It's a nice way to put it.

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1:01:28 And thank you all so much for supporting the podcast. Well, while the black, and I put black and pips as I, um, I recently heard uh pips. Yeah, I heard my Angelou use it when she was talking to uh James Baldwin. And I just like that. I put in the pips, uh, black uh pundits. That's weird because I immediately think of Gladys Knight. I don't know why. It's that's odd. Because of the pips. I know, but I understand why. But how do you get their quotes from pips? I don't know, but it's just cool the way she said it. So all right. Hereby adopted. It's good to go. So I'll put black and pips. The pundits were

1:02:13 bashful about saying who was responsible and was everyone. Oh, but not Eva. God. Evil On Goria. Evil Agoria. She put it right out there. Who were the real heroes and heroines? Again, our work is just beginning, but I want to talk about what you just said about the women. The women of color showed up in big ways. Of course, you saw in Georgia what black women have done, but the Latina women were the real heroines here, beating men in turnout in every state and voting for Biden Harris at an average rate close to three to one. And that wasn't surprising to us. You know, Latinos are the CEOs of the households. They make all the financial decisions and healthcare decisions and educational decisions.

1:02:55 Many Latinas are small business owners and they wanted a plan for recovery for themselves, not for Wall Street. And so Trump's policies were never aimed at the struggling Latina community. And, you know, if you look at voter suppression on top of that, how Latinas showed up, even through the closing of polling places and the shutting down of drop-off sites and new voter ID laws and long lines and driving 30 miles and all of that. And on top of that, restrictions and safety protocols of a pandemic, that spirit and perseverance that Latinas use in their daily lives, the struggle to pay their bills and the struggle to show up to their jobs and homeschool their kids and take care of their elders.

1:03:35 That's the same perseverance and spirit they use to show up at the polls. I think there was such a vacuum of actual information that people were like Eva Rongoria, who I've met. She's very nice, actually. I've never heard her talk about like you guys with such an emphasis. I think people literally got sucked into the vacuum and brought in to fill it up. And, you know, it's like, well, you got. got me. So yeah. Since when do we get Yvonne Goria for election analysis? Yeah. That's very odd. I kind of skipped over it, but they're trying to shift out of

1:04:18 black, you know, black, black, black to color, color, color, color, color. People of color. Yes. Right. Because you even seen this with Kamala Harris. It was, she's a black woman all the way up until the election. And now it's, oh, she's Indian. But she's the DC. She's Kama, Kama, Kama, Kama, Kama, Kamele. And she can change whenever she wants. She can be brown. She's a Desi. Yeah. Yeah, she's a Dessi. And she knows. But you didn't hear this for Obama. You didn't hear when he won it after that. It was like, oh, he's white too, or he's multiracial. No. They didn't play that game with him, but I'm noticing

1:05:02 that they're whitening up or lightening up Kamala. And I haven't, and I think this is what the point I'm making here is in that. Okay. All right. So I have to get in my black bubble. All right. Okay. Well, I'll keep the mic on the outside so I can still hear you. Right. So what the black bubble is, is this is when you have to see things through the completely quote-unquote black lens. And when black people heard her say this, it's that this is not me. This is from the black bubble. Latinos are not lazy like black people. We persevered and we don't let voter suppression get in our way.

1:05:47 And you know that thing in Georgia that y'all did? Yeah, it was nice, but we're the real heroines. Can you get me out of this thing? Hold on. Stand back, everybody. Okay, you're out. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you for thank you for saying that because isn't that kind of the question I'm always asking is how do you feel about that? And I completely, I, and, okay, so from my perspective, very interesting. Thanks for not setting me up for it. I'm glad you didn't do that. I didn't hear that, obviously. All I heard, I heard her taking, uh, taking credit for the win.

1:06:24 But of course, being a white man, I, it didn't hit me that that was actually very derogatory in this specific case because it's it was the black vote that was told was going to make it happen right but what she's saying is us Latino women and she and step aside black people that's what she's saying we did it exactly with the new with a new block of interest yeah so that didn't last very long because they came for her and we go over to the uh best stop in political tea roland martin um and

1:07:05 everyone's faves yeah and he he covers this uh thepology up even it's possible we talked about uh the fact the power of black women also the fact that the two highest voting groups uh in this election were black women and black men 91 of black women voted for donald trump nine uh 80 uh percent of black men excuse me 91 of black women voted for joe biden against donald trump 80 of black men voted for joe biden against uh against donald trump was supposed to sent me an even her card is on my desk i'm sorry i'll uh supposed to sent me this t-shirt y'all today and it says uh vote like a black woman uh which which was which

1:07:45 was pretty funny uh and uh yiva longoria who is a democratic activist she's an actress but let's just say she got a little hot water over the weekend when she said this on msnbc that did not uh sit well with a whole bunch of sisters uh yvelon goria got ripped for those comments uh given the impression that she was dismissing black women okay she got ripped ripped by the way it was besides his obvious flub at the beginning it's interesting that instead of saying uh whatever his numbers were 80 of black women voted for joe biden it was both times men black men and women actually voted

1:08:24 against donald trump that's what he said yeah that's interesting it maybe that's the secret the uh truth wants to come out because nobody was voting for joe biden biden which goes to even this high man this astronomical number that we're seeing of votes and where did he get his his numbers from he didn't say okay i think he probably just got it off the news like everybody else did that was those numbers everybody was quoting and that lets you know that um twice as many black women voted for Trump this time around the last time. And you had a significant increase on the men's side. But he glosses over that. And then he reminds you, I got a t-shirt that said vote like black women.

1:09:07 And that was just hilarious to him. So as you can see, the black female political class, they called Eva. And they told Eva, you got to fix this. That's right. Donald Donald J. Lemon got into the same trouble. So who called her? I don't know. And there's not really any evidence of who did call her, but you know how the fix-it conversation goes, don't you, Adam? Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's like, well, that's like Donald with Oprah. Right. So let's get

1:09:48 the official tweet is read by Roland of her apologizing. Oh, gosh, they got to her. This was what she posted on Twitter. I'm so sorry and sad to hear that my comments on MSNBC could be perceived as taking credit from black women. When I say that Latinas were heroines in this election, I simply meant that they turned out in greater numbers and voted more progressively than Latino men. My wording was not clear, and I deeply regret that. There is such a history in our community of anti-blackness in our community, and I would never want to contribute to that.

1:10:24 So let me be very clear. Black women have long been the backbone of the Democratic Party, something we have seen played out in this election as well as previous ones. Finally, black women don't have to do it alone any longer. Latinas, many who identify as Afro-Latina, Indigenous women, AAPI women, and other women of people are standing with them so we can grow our collective voice and power. Together, we are unstoppable. Nothing but love and support for black women. Everywhere you deserve a standing ovation. Wow. AAPI American Asian Pacific Pacific Islanders.

1:11:08 Everybody's in every Latino men. Get out of here, men. Welcome to the club, fellas. You don't belong here. Get out of here, men. Horrible men. Hey, girl. See, for the sisterhood, they threw their men right under the bus. I was talking about those sorry Hispanic men that went and voted for 45 Savage. That's what she was saying. And whenever you start your statement off, is what I mean was it's bad cop and please. Yeah, it's bad news. Have you ever heard of the term cop and please? If not, this is a perfect example.

1:11:47 She's like, I don't want no trouble, ladies. You know, I know you're the backbone. So they may Eva bow down, but it's always the apology I find more interesting than the statement. And it always gets glossed over. She says, I know there's such a history of anti-blackness in our community. I heard that too. And I was like, wow, you're going to just come out and say that? Like you guys are a bunch of racists? Well, the men are. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, yes, of course. The Latino men are. Wow. Threw them under the bus and backed the bus up over them.

1:12:29 This is how it works. Yeah. Fellas, talking to my Latino brothers out there. Welcome to the hold your head. Don't worry. Don't worry. White men are not far behind. We know it'll be our turn eventually. Because you know how it goes. Yeah. Yeah. Black men hold the door open for everybody else. Right. So she was copping major pleasing this. And this next little clipped snippet is from her original statement. And I just want to play that one more time. What she said. The women of color showed up in big ways. Of course, you saw in Georgia what black women have done, but the Latina women were the real heroines here, beating men in turnout in every state.

1:13:15 But my dad always told me when you say something and follow it with a butt, everything you said before that butt is negated. It's negated. So this backbone and we're the real heroines don't line up. And I think Eva was just feeling herself and she wanted she wanted her credit. And it's funny how she comes out, says it boldly, but the black pundits have to say, oh, it was everybody. It was a coalition. It was everybody. It was the whole color of the rainbow. Everyone did it. So we're going to take a little. side, a little deviation from the normal path. And we're going to look into the Latino votes for CVS today.

1:13:59 The U.S. electoral map doesn't look that different from 2016, but states like Florida, Texas, Arizona, and North Carolina are experiencing a sea change driven by a wave of new Latino voters. What we are seeing is a lot of higher than predicted young Latino voters coming out and voting. The progressive leaning group Latino Decisions pulled a slice of Latino voters and found nationally about 70% supported Joe Biden, but just 27% favored Donald Trump. Republicans repeatedly portraying Biden as a socialist candidate, appealing to exiled Cuban and Venezuelan Americans.

1:14:36 Grassroots organizer Melissa Taveras calls that misinformation and says Democrats faced a major obstacle in getting communities of color to vote, the coronavirus. Because of COVID, we're not able to knock on doors. Most of our work shifted to virtual or to phone banking, which is not the same as engaging people face to face. Latinas, show up. But the pandemic did not slow a surge of left-leaning Latino voters in Arizona, where NBC News exit polls show 63% of the block broke for Biden compared to 33% for Trump. Arizona has seen its population grow and economic opportunities widen, attracting young Latinos to the state.

1:15:16 What is happening in Arizona is very similar to the demographic shifts that we are also seeing in Georgia. There it is again. They brought up some points here. One, 33% of Latinos in Arizona voted for Biden, but there's no shaming. You had a high voted for Trump, you mean? I mean, yeah, voted for Trump. Yeah, excuse me. And then you had a high turnout for Trump in Florida amongst the Cubans. There's no shaming. But whenever a black person comes to try to step out and say, I'm going to vote or not vote, or I'm going to vote differently than you expect me.

1:15:58 Here comes the shaming. So I just wanted to point that out. And I want to put a question on the table. Cubans, are they similar to ADOS or Foundational Blacks in the way that they're a subgroup within a larger group? And they have their own interests and they vote their interest. If that's a question, yeah, I would say that's correct. It's a thought I laid up for me saying for debate. Well, but okay, so what you're saying is, please don't think just because they have brown skin that they fall under the Latino-Latina banner. They vote their independent interests whenever you say socialism. Yeah. That's a no-go for them.

1:16:43 And they basically hold Florida hostage, even though they're a small community. And as we've seen how these things lay out in these cities like, well, the states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, these urban centers, pips, are where the stronghold of black vote is. So if you could get black people in Detroit, Philadelphia to be on cold like the Cubans are, they could wield significant political power. So I'm just saying, the Cubans are an excellent example of being part of a larger group voting your individual interest.

1:17:27 Well, only being part of a larger group because of this color of their skin for no other, there's no other reason at all. Hello. Not even Latin America. It's not South America. It's Cuba. No, I'm going to say, hello. I'm just making it extra clear. Remember Pinky? They didn't even know Pinky was black until she told them and then they turned on her. So it's not even about pigment anymore. It's about what group you fit in. So we're going to continue on with the CBS Today clip and it's going to give us a few more numbers. But before we continue, we have to keep our eye on Arizona. I'll say that and then we can jump into this next clip.

1:18:08 Speaking of the Peach State, exit polling shows Biden with a 16-point edge among Latinos there, down from 40 points under Clinton, and a 19-point Biden edge in Texas, down from 27 points under Clinton. But both of these states suddenly in play for the first time in decades. There has been a lot of engagement in Texas, and it's also a process. I mean, when we're talking about places like Arizona that have are now solidly purple. With states slowly changing colors, Miami-Dade's Republican chair says one formula has kept Florida reliably red. Regular outreach to Latinos. truly cared about the Hispanics in Miami Data in Florida, and that paid off for him.

1:18:52 You see how that looks? Yeah. Bad. It's very bad. Can't have this. Yeah. Regular outreach. And these numbers. Now, Joe Biden, we just said that the voter turnout was higher for black people, but the turnout was lower than expected, just on percentage-wise. So it seems like the black vote didn't do it for him. Well, just he was just a question on that, Mo, because this is the math that we've been talking about for over a year. And just leaving everything out, leaving everything out of the equation. What we talked about specifically was if 2 or 3% less pips, black people voted, showed up to vote,

1:19:38 that would lose the election for Joe Biden and the Democrats. So do we know exactly what that turnout number was? And was it indeed those 2% or 3% lower as expected? See, we don't know the overall number of what the turnout was. They keep giving us the percentage of who was registered and who voted. Exactly. Not the actual, this is how many voting black people, people of voting age that are black. And of that number, this is the percentage that turned out. That's the original number that we started out with. But we don't know that now. How do they even get now? Now, this is just a question. Your vote, that you voted, is known.

1:20:21 What you voted is not known. What do you mean, what you voted? So that you voted, that you, Mo Fax, Mr. Mo Fax, that you voted, that is a matter of record. Who you voted for is not public record. Nobody has that. No. So how do they come up with these numbers? Exit polls. Right. Bull crap. In other words. Which they could be skewed because if I voted for Trump and I'm black, I'm not going to tell you. I mean, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Stand out there and be like, yeah, I voted for Trump. Right. Which, by the way, you should totally be able to do, but not in this time and day and age.

1:21:03 50 Cent, Lil Wayne, Ice Cube. Should I go on here? That's the shaming I'm talking about. It tells you not to do it. Yeah. You better not do it. But my point I'm saying is in Georgia. Now, this is where numbers, they just don't job for me. 2016, Hillary Clinton had a 40 point, 40 points of the black vote, right? Me out the Hispanic vote. 40 point margin difference. That went down to 16 for Joe Biden in Georgia. Incredible amount.

1:21:42 So the Hispanic vote is down for Joe Biden. The black vote is down for Joe Biden, but he wins Georgia, which is historically a red state. 28 years. Yeah, I think 1992 was the last time, I believe. Come on. Come on, bro. Well, after Sidney Powell unleashes the Kraken, we'll understand better how that works. This is the problem. How can you do a good analysis with numbers so out of whack like this? It's like, what? It is truly the definition of incredible. It's almost not credible to look at these astounding numbers.

1:22:27 And then the poll pre-election polls, the difference. Yes. It's so many anomalies you would have to throw out. If you were just doing an experiment and it's the data that came back with you, came back to you, you would have to throw this out. Exactly. No, that can't be right. We got to do that over. Yeah. Well, that's not going to happen. I'm speaking scientifically here because I do DOEs. So it's for people that don't know. That's design of experiments. And when you have out-of-whack numbers like this, you can't trust it. You know, you can't trust the numbers. But I said we have to keep our eye on one Arizona and two Georgia.

1:23:09 So I'm going to speak briefly in these next couple of clips about Arizona. And then we're going to pivot to Georgia. All right. 24A. All-American wrestler Nashon Garrett moved from Maricopa County, Arizona to Tennessee about five months ago so he could train for the Olympics. So you can imagine his surprise when he got a message from something called the Voter Integrity Fund. The state of Arizona is recording that a ballot was cast in the name of Nishan Gay. Garrett in the general election on Tuesday. If Nishon Garrett did not cast this ballot, please call us back. Wow. Well, that doesn't sound fishy at all, right? Well, Nashon didn't think so either.

1:23:54 So he went to the state of Arizona's voting website only to discover that his ballot had been accepted. And Maricopa County's voter portal said his ballot was signature verified and counted. The only problem is he'd already voted in Tennessee. He didn't vote in Arizona. Nayshawn Garrett joins me now. Nayshan, great to see you. Now, you never received an Arizona absentee ballot or an application for mail-in ballot. So who the heck cast your ballot in Arizona? That is an excellent question. That is an excellent question. I have no idea, and that's the reason why I'm on here with you tonight.

1:24:37 What does it make you think about this process in Arizona that we understand from this statement tonight that it's been examined and there were no irregularities found? What was that announcement? I've never heard an announcement like that. If this was your ballot, let it get in touch with us. Where was that announcement from? That was the call that he received. Oh, from the Integrity Fund. Okay, I got it. Right, right. Right, same part of your vote. Basically, did you cast this vote? Right. And somebody did. I mean, somebody cast a vote for him. That was very kind. He didn't have to do that. But it was in Arizona when he was currently in Tennessee. And he voted for it. Of course.

1:25:20 There's no evidence of fraud, Adam. So we know this. It's crazy. He's just an outlier. No, just that should be disregarded. It's an outlier. Don't even look at it onward. But the only problem is he's the Olympic athlete. So he has some credibility and he's just not some person they pulled out of the woodwork. So I just want to point out one more thing. This is the back to the fox thing again. You have Tucker, you have Laura. They can't say it's fraud, but they can't say it's fraud. And they have to do these stories.

1:25:57 One minute that come out, say this, and then they'll go back and say it go against it. They're in a very tough situation because they don't have a place in New Fox. No, I disagree. No, I disagree. I think they have an absolute place in New Fox. And I've seen, I follow Tucker Carlson very closely. Frau Ingraham, not so much. But he has moved from having opposition guests on who will argue with him. That's over. He hasn't done that in months. He recently announced that he's staying with Fox News and that they had just, or they had just completed or in the in the

1:26:39 in fact, I have the clip actually. We should probably listen since we're talking about it. Yes, here he is. Before we get to the next segment, a quick note about this show. Over the weekend, we got a lot of calls asking if we're leaving Fox News. Ironically, at that very moment, we are working on a project to expand the amount of reporting and analysis we do in this hour across other parts of the company. This show is not going anywhere. It's getting bigger. The people who run Fox News want more of it, not less, and we are grateful for that. We'll have specifics soon. But as always, thank you for your trust in us. We'll do our best to be worthy of it. So to me, he is going to be, because he says, we bring you news and analysis.

1:27:22 Analysis, yes. He brings analysis that I think will make many conservatives feel good about what he's saying because it's probably what they're thinking. But news, no, this is controlled opposition. Just having a guy on at 8 o'clock in the evening saying, I agree with you, is not the same. I mean, of all the, if he truly was in the news business, he would have at least brought some. Sidney Powell, that's why I bring her up again, is a serious lawyer. And this is the only reason why I give this whole thing. And Rudy Giuliani has been so marginalized, but he's also quite a serious guy.

1:28:01 I lives in Manhattan when he was my mayor, and I saw the good things he did and the corruption he cleaned up, the crime families, the Wall Street crime. That's when Michael Milken, the last guy that actually went to jail for doing something bad on Wall Street. So these people, but mainly Sidney Powell, she's worthy of speaking to. And she even actually excoriated her for not showing any evidence. Right. So this is just to me, this is, and by the way, they can't sell an ad for if their life depended on it. It's all per inquiry. It's all money. pillow. It's all Medicare commercials. They can't even get a good pharma ad, which runs the entire cable business in his time slot.

1:28:43 So this is just controlled opposition. And sadly, I think he knows it. No, I'm in agreeance with you. And that's why that's my point I'm making that him and Laura Ingram are in a tight spot because their fan base is mostly MAGA. It's going. Oh, yeah. No, that's MAGA's going to Newsmax. So if they go to Newsmax, that leaves no, yeah, that leaves no, that leaves no Savage Max. That leaves no room for Ingram and Tucker Carlson. So they have to waffle back and forth between I'm with MAGA, I'm not with MAGA.

1:29:26 They have two masters. Yeah. And they have to play this very closely because if they don't play this right, that's why I brought the point about the comments and the feedback that they're getting. They won't have a place in the New Fox because New Fox will just become CNN or some kind of benign. Not as gimmicky as CNN, but down the middle, college balls and stripes political news. For 13 years on the No Agenda Show, I have said Fox News is run by Democrats. And here's the truth. It is. And you saw that play out in the Calling of Arizona. No, the mini-series they did on

1:30:10 what's the guy that created Roger Arrolls. Roger Arles. Yes, yes, yes. You saw, I mean, I know that was fictitious, but you saw the sons come in and kind of like, Dad, you got to play it this way. But I digress, but I want to go back to Nashon and his claim of voter fraud. That's what the post-election audit in Arizona said that Phoenix and Maricopa County, no irregularities. I mean, it seems like your ballot was cast by someone else.

1:30:47 Doesn't that seem like an irregularity to you? Yes. And fortunately, I can only speak to my own experience, but from my own experience, I found, and this just happened within the last couple of days, where I had some suspicions that there could be some irregularities. I have mainstream media speaking that there's not, but yet I have just dropped in my hands. It just so happened that a ballot was cast in my name. And it's unfortunate, but it's the truth. Now, do you think maybe a mail-in ballot application was sent to an old address there?

1:31:28 And I mean, I'm just trying to think of how it happened. And someone received that application, sent it back in, signed it, or do you know if it was mail-in or if it was an in-person vote? How did it get cast? I believe it was a mail-in vote ballot. And as far as I understand, as far as I know, there was mail-in ballot sent to my old address in Arizona. But I haven't lived in Arizona in over a year and four months. I love Ingram. What? What? What? Do you think that's possible?

1:32:08 Yeah, please. And just for the optics of it, Nashon Garrett is a quote-unquote black person. Pips. Pips. Excuse me. Pips. Thank you. So that even lends to the spiciness of the story. It's like, here's this black guy getting his vote stolen in Arizona. Suppressed. And the vote flips from red to blue. And I don't know the current status of Arizona because it went blue and then it is it red now or well, it's unclear. Everything is like in flux. It's like in dispute. Yeah. And again, everyone's voting for the electors.

1:32:50 So this. Yeah. But are they still counting? This is why I can't. This is, to be honest with you, I had to unplug because are they still counting? I know in Georgia they're recounting because I follow that one closely. Yeah, they're recounting the audit. Yeah, they're recounting and auditing. So this, it's in Georgia? Yes. And I think Arizona, too. I don't think it's an audit yet. Yeah, we'll bring that up later to discuss, but I'm not sure. But just to continue on with the show, it's just uncertainty. We don't know who's still counting, who's done counting.

1:33:28 Nothing's been called. Some people are. are recounting. There's a bunch of lawsuits that go around, and we're really not going to have an answer. But the bell of the ball. Stacy. Yes. It wasn't Latina. It was Stacy's. Her being a high member of the COVID. She was invited to the Colbert Show. Hey, welcome back, everybody. She is the star of the Democratic Party whose get out the vote efforts have transformed the state of Georgia. Please welcome back to a late show, Stacey Abrams. Thanks so much for being here.

1:34:08 It's my pleasure. Thank you for having me back. Well, you have been working tirelessly for the Democratic Party to succeed to have victory in the state of Georgia. Are you allowing yourself time to celebrate right now, or is there too much work to be done? I had about 17 minutes on Saturday afternoon. I'm good. That's all you need. Now get back to work. Okay, we've got to win two Senate races. I can't dawdle too long. No, I want to get to that in just a moment, but I'm going to dwell on this for just a moment more, if you don't mind. Okay. Okay. Biden is said to become the first Democratic presidential candidate to win Georgia since 1992.

1:34:51 You're being credited with your get out the vote effort, your organizing of Georgia. How did you do it? Yes, that's what we want to know. How did you do it? Did you do it, Stacey? Now, for context, after she apparently won the governorship of Georgia, in her mind, only not recognized, she started the get-out the vote. She had got a whole foundation together. She raised a lot of money. She started a lot of lawsuits trying to prove voter fraud, which I don't think she was successful at at all. And being the, as you say, the Pips senior member of the Coven

1:35:31 and the Council on Foreign Relations. No idea why she's in there. I'm sure she had something else up her sleeve. Let's just do some numbers here. So roughly 5 million people voted in Atlanta. I mean, in Georgia, excuse me. Since 2018, she's supposedly registered 800,000 new voters in the state that only has 5 million voters. Wow. Exactly. Wow. That's sticker price. And then as of Sunday, Saturday, and this is I think the Saturday the 14th? Yeah, the 14th.

1:36:12 Nearly 3.9 million Georgians had already cast their ballots. This is pre-election. This is, excuse me, had cast their ballots. And more than 90%, this is more than 94% of that total number cast in the state of 2016. So you had a huge number of mail-in ballots in Georgia, huge number of new registered voters. And I think the difference at the time I checked was like 12,000. And you're having all kinds of shenanigans go on and lawsuits filed. And Georgia is not even a close state like that. I mean, by margin, I have the margins here, and it's like 2%,

1:36:58 9%. I'm going for 2016. It was 2%. That year, election before it was 9%. So, I mean, it was tightening, but it wasn't. It's not even close. When you're talking about 12,000 votes, separate who the winner is. So I just want to let it out. So this 800,000 number, since in two years, you registered 800,000 people. That is a crap load of people. Especially if they weren't registered before. Exactly. How did you see them? By the way, when you said mail-in vote, I swear to God, I heard Melanin vote. It was the weirdest thing. Like, I like that. The Melanin vote.

1:37:39 But this is my gut feeling. I feel like, and I could be wrong, and this is, I don't have any empirical data. This just only anecdotal data. I feel like Stacey's being set up here. Oh, really? That's interesting. I have a feel all this praise they're lavishing on her. If Georgia goes left and some shenanigans are found, who they keep saying, this is the lady we credited to. All her work we accredited to. Right? Yep. What this reminds me of is Loretta Lynch. Oh, my God. Former Attorney General of the United States, yes, who had the Bill Clinton

1:38:24 airport. airport tarmac meeting. And it was the Loretta Lynch meeting. It wasn't the Bill Clinton meeting. This is how it works. You always set up the fall guy. If anything goes wrong, we pull the chair out under Stacy and she holds the bag. Because they just, this praise, and we've just did the numbers. We went through the numbers, a little actual turnout compared to who was registered. You heard Eva Gunlongoria say, oh, that was nice what they did in Georgia. You know, like in a business way. And by the way, that was the real problem because she had said something which puts Stacy in a bad light when it's not her turn to be in a bad light yet.

1:39:07 Exactly. I got it. Okay. So, Stacey, they're all there, just, oh, Stacey, you're the best. And I want you to watch for a meme here. And these next two clips we're going to play. I'm not going to reveal it to you. But let's get into the second clip of Colbert with Stacy. So I want to make certain we give credit to so many groups that have been working at this for a very long time. My part was that when I became Democratic leader in 2010, I started building an infrastructure to focus on registration, on recruiting and training staff, on making certain we were in every single county.

1:39:45 And I advanced that through multiple cycles. In 2018, I finally had enough money to do all the things we dreamed of. I raised $40 million for my gubernatorial race, and we kept raising money after I lost to keep focusing on keeping this infrastructure in place. We worked with other organizations. We helped seed some of those groups, including the New Georgia Project, which I founded, Fair Fight and Fair Count. And we had 2 million voters who understood that their voices were needed and they showed up. Well, I know that you were doing all this organizing and all these efforts along with these other groups long before you ran for governor.

1:40:24 But one of the sort of hallmarks of that campaign was the obvious voter purchase and voter suppression that were going on under then Secretary of State camp. And I imagine that must have given you even more energy for this effort than before. He was a galvanizing force for the intensity of my efforts this time. Yes. Do you think there are any Republicans on the national level now going, oh, would be better if she was just governor? Now we've lost the whole damn state. I had some time on my hands. If they'd let me have this other job, I probably would have been distracted.

1:41:07 Idle hands or democracy's workshop. I just find it interesting that now she's talking about 2 million people showed up. Is she claiming that she's responsible for that? Of course, because Joe Biden got, at the time I pulled the numbers, that was on the 14th, he had 2,400,072 and some change, right? Yeah. And she's saying, of that number, I registered 800,000 in two years. That's one third. That's wow. And let's just say not everybody you registered turned out, right? Right. Just to say, say that. That's still, let's say, one-fourth. It's a big number.

1:41:50 One-fourth of everybody voted. You registering the vote. That dog going hunt over here. So she was on a press run and she went over to one of our favorite shows, The View. And listen to how Whoopi's all giddy and listen for the meme as well. Nobody had Joe Biden's back more than Stacey Abrams. I mean, she has been working to make sure that the Democratic Party is doing everything they can do in Georgia to turn it blue. Please welcome the founder of the voting rights organization, Fair Fight Stacey Abrams.

1:42:30 Welcome back, Stacey Abrams. I know all those politicians, those Republican politicians in Georgia wish now that they had just made you governor because you, you, you know, I'm sure they're just going, if we had just done that, none of this would be going on. So twice we get the boy. They're probably sad they didn't make you governor because now they lost the whole damn state. Whoopie. She's like, she's hyperventilating on it. Yes. My goodness. She couldn't wait to deliver that punchline. And she's like, I can't wait to say it. Oh, they should have just elected you.

1:43:12 Oh, how sweet the justice is. And come on. And she stole the line. It wasn't even hers. No. That's great. And she's a comedian. So that joke stealing is a very high crime in the stand-up world. I'm glad you caught that. I wanted to see if you could catch. I mean, I knew you would, but just to hear it and like how, oh, man, she was all over Stacey. Big time. Big time. Yeah. Well, I'm not caught up in the hype. And we have to go back to throwback clip 36, which was Lego my Jego, Joco, excuse me.

1:43:52 And really, let's really remember who Stacey is. And look, we need to all remember who is Stacy Abrams. This is a person who lost the governor's race. That is her claim to fame. Started this nonprofit, took $5 million from Michael Bloomberg. And then during the campaign, when Biden and Byrne and everybody else would have loved to have Stacy come up and do a campaign event, who's the one guy who gets her to come? Bloomberg. Yeah. The funny thing is, remember, we covered that story about how Biden's donors, a bunch of like Wall Street types, were giving him advice on who to pick. And the one person they said essentially, no, they really liked Kamala. They liked Amy. They liked all those people.

1:44:35 They did not like Stacey, which tells you everything that even Stacey Abrams would be too progressive. This is a cap board member, right? Like, she's excited about politics carnage. This is very interesting. Okay, so now I see where you're coming from with the setting Stacy up to be holding the bag and not the good bag. Because they're saying that she is responsible. So when it turns out that it was fraud, guess who's going to get pushed up front? Whoa. Oh, this is good. Oh, man. This is going to be beautiful. If anything goes down like that, that'll be fun to watch.

1:45:17 800. And she's on the outside looking in. She's not a political person, but in the sense of she's not up through the DNC, the Kamala Harris, that tree. No, she was really giving her power. She's despised by that group. They don't like her at all. But I always made the point that this relation would have been real easy because she would have carried Georgia on her own. If you're looking, if we're just doing political math here, Kamala, we already have California. She's not really liked. She has the non-AIDAS bad reparation takes. We have optics-wise, her blackness is in question.

1:45:58 We have Stacy over here. She can give us Georgia. She brings the Bloomberg money along with her. Optics-wise, her blackness can't be questioned. And they go with Kamala. I could never let Stacy's son. That's got a sting, is what you're saying. It's got a sting for Stacy. Yeah. It doesn't make any sense. And they said that she's cool at Wall Street, but if anybody could be left to held the bag, she's not one of us. You know, she's not one of the original members of the crew. Just think about like robbing a bank.

1:46:34 But I will remind you that it was the former New York banker who probably two years ago said, Stacy, Stacey, Stacy's the one. Keep your because that's she was clearly, her name was going around in the Wall Street circles. Everyone's like, Stacy, she was politically correct at the time. Oh, well, she, the way she energized it, I mean, just from the narrative point that Georgia could be in play and her governor race that she had, you know, it put her at the top of the list. Now, let's go over to France, France 24 English, and we're going to go back to that 2000, I think, 18 election she had against, yeah, that she had against Kemp.

1:47:19 With most precincts reported, Republican Brian Kemp leads by around two and a half points over Stacey Abrams. However, the candidate to be the first black female governor in the United States is not conceding. Votes remain to be counted. There are voices that were waiting to be heard. Across our state, folks are opening up the dreams of voters in absentee ballots. And we believe our chance for a stronger Georgia is just within reach. I'm Brian Kemp. I'm so conservative. I blow up government spending. Brian Kemp faces a runoff next month. In Georgia, there's a rerun if neither candidate has more than half the vote.

1:48:01 Aside, running for governor, he is also Georgia's top election official. Days before the election, Abrams accused him of removing voters from state roles. His office said it was investigating Georgia Democrats for a failed attempt. attempt to hack the state's voter registration system. He stopped short of declaring victory. Make no mistake, the math is on our side to win this election. Stacey Abrams. Well, Kem drew strong support from Donald Trump. Far left. Abrams was backed by the TV star Oprah Winfrey. Both women condemned racist and anti-Semitic automated phone calls that went out to an unknown number of Georgians impersonating Oprah Winfrey.

1:48:46 I've forgotten about that one. Yeah, racist. Yeah, she had eight. She had, that's right, Oprah. Who else went down to Georgia to Obama? Came out for her. Obama came out for her. Yeah, it was. All the big, yeah, all the big stars. And they were setting her up. Not in that way, but they were propping her up to be a serious candidate. Now, she said her, and the report said, excuse me, as the report said, she was down by two full points, and she was still saying, or 2%. And she was this, there's votes to be counted. No, of course. Voices to be heard. Dreams need to be fulfilled. Right. So Biden is up by three-tenths of a percent. Stop the count. Stop the count.

1:49:30 It's over. Stop it. I'll say it like this. I just want to have complete transparency, count every vote, verify every vote. And the reason why I say that is if they're going to steal anybody's vote, you know who vote is going to be. Let's just be completely honest. Let's just be completely honest here. If there's any vote stealing going on, we all know who it's going to start with. So that they mentioned the robocalls. Would you like to hear the robocall? The anti-Semitic racist robocall? The so-called Oprah's anti-Semite colony call. Is that the one? Yes, I have that if you like to hear it.

1:50:12 This is the magical Oprah Winfrey asking you to make my fellow Stacey Abrams the governor of Georgia. Tonight, both gubernatorial candidates are coming out against this fake robocall that recently surfaced here in Georgia. In a statement, the Abrams campaign calls the robocalls a vile attempt to sway voters using poisonous thinking. Kemp echoes Abrams, calling the robocall vile and absolutely disgusting. The robocall says it was paid for by the road to power, which has been linked to several other racist robocalls in Florida. Wow, man, that could have fooled me. That robocall. Can we hear that first? Just the robocall, not the whole clip, just the robocall again.

1:50:53 That was hilarious. It's not the best. It's so anti-Semitic. This is the magical Oprah Winfrey asking you to make my fellow Stacy Abrams the governor of Georgia. Wait, I thought it was supposed to be anti-Semitic. This is just racist. You know how it goes. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Wow. We can lump it all in there together, but this is not even a woman. You know what? This is almost as dumb as the stupid video on the internet that caused Benghazi. Remember that scam? Like, oh, people are really mad about this video that's hateful towards the Prophet Muhammad.

1:51:34 And that's why they're rioting. And that's why they're storming Benghazi. This is just as dumb. And that was so fake and so bad. It reminds me of the paintings of Jewish Holocaust headstones and the burnings of black churches. It ended up coming back to the other party. That's what they remind me. I'm like, that's terrible. That's not even a woman. I mean, if you want to put together a, I mean, that was a guy. That was clearly a guy. Obviously. It was dumb. I'd be embarrassed to put that in my report, honestly. I'd rather just read it and pretend like people hear that in Oprah's voice.

1:52:11 That was dumb. That's why I wanted to let people hear it just to dig that up and put some context to these things that they're saying. Well, we've gotten to another stopping point, I believe, Adam, where we can thank some more people if you would so kindly do so. Yes, and unlike Stacey Abrams, who apparently has gobs of Bloomberg money, we don't. But it's not like we don't like it. I like brand new money. I just, I don't want any money around me. It's not. I'd almost rather have a new one than an old 20. That's kind of dumb. But there's something about new money that excites you. You like $100 bills? Oh, yeah. I like new money too. Oh, most beautiful thing on earth is a $100 bill. I haven't seen a woman as good looking as a $100 bill.

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2:04:29 Oh, no. Bro. We're following breaking news in Georgia right now. In just a moment, I'll be speaking live with Georgia's Secretary of State, who just ordered a hand recount of the ballots. But let's get an update from CNS Phil Manningly, who's joining us right now. So, Phil, what's the state of the race in Georgia? Well, Wolf, if you look broadly at the map, there's three states that currently have not been called by CNN. And obviously, all eyes are on Georgia. There's a big runoff headed there for two Senate races, but we are focused right now on the presidential. And as it currently stands, Joe Biden is ahead by over 14,000 votes. Now, what's going to happen over the course of the next several weeks is a hand recount, essentially an audit by the state going county by county, counting every single vote by hand.

2:05:08 Here's the reality when you look at this map right now. Unlike maybe a few days ago when Joe Biden was up by a thousand or two thousand votes, as his lead has grown, as more of the votes have been counted, processed, and reported, he has got a much more comfortable cushion. Wolf, you've covered recounts before, you know how this works. Occasionally, you will have a couple hundred votes flip at most. Maybe there will be some errors that will cause some changes. But the reality of a 14,000-vote lead in the state of Georgia, the Biden campaign feels pretty comfortable with that, should feel pretty comfortable with that based on historical precedent. But obviously, the recount is happening. The recount has been ordered, and we'll see how things play out. One thing to keep an eye on: November 20th, that is when the state has to certify.

2:05:46 That is when the recount is expected to be complete. But for right now, heading into that recount county by county, by hand, every single vote, Joe Biden ahead by 14,000 votes. A lot was said. Yes. You said whom. So I want to hear what you whomed about. I forgot by the time he got to the end. What did I whom about? I can't even remember. He said a lot. Okay. So let's start with the whom. I think May caught your attention because it caught mine. You said previously that there's an audit going on in Georgia. Yes. Not the case. There's a hand count going on.

2:06:24 And how you were probably propagandized was the slick trick Phil Maddenly pulled by saying, oh, it's a hand count, which is essentially an audit. No, it's not. No, it's not. But here's what I understand. They still have the right to do an audit, even if the count has been certified. That's why when they conflated those two things, I needed to call it out. Right. Because he says there's a hand count going on, which is essentially an audit. No, that's not two different things. Yeah, that's not a hand count is whatever ballots we have. We count it through machine. We're going to go back and count them by hand. They don't look into the validity of the ballot.

2:07:06 Right. Which that's what an audit is for. It's two different things. But I like that you said that it was an audit because this go to show even usually, easily. Oh, yeah. It's so easy. Are susceptible when you don't listen to these things? And I had, I actually listened to it four or five times how I caught that because I just heard hand count audit. Yeah, that's a very good catch. And really, that's part of the problem now: there's so much, let's just call it all information floating around that you don't know. It's like there's no one to rely on at all.

2:07:47 And then Phil says, according to historical data, the Democrats have nothing to worry about, but this is not a historical. historical election you can use historical data on because nobody's seen this amount of mail-in dollars before. Nobody's seen one-third of one party's voting base increase by 800,000 votes. All of these things, you know, we have to look into, and that's just, but he's saying there's nothing to worry about here. We're going to do the hand count, which is an audit, and it's going to be over. And that's not the case. And the rapists.

2:08:26 I was going to say, you mentioned earlier that you deal with DOE, I think it was, and you explained the acronym. I want people, you know, without going into much about it, but you actually do deal with statistical anomalies with the things that, I mean, this is, this is what, and I know this. I don't think people understand that you are trained professionally to look for these types of things and then make decisions based upon weird ass numbers that, you know, well, go ahead and explain. Okay, I'll explain. What I do is I'm a quality engineer for a large company. And that's my job is to spot anomalies and to explain them.

2:09:11 And if certain data sets don't, if they have too many outliers, you have to kick them out. You have to do another experiment. So, yeah, that's what you have to set up. You have to set up experiments that will give you quality data back so you can make decisions off of them. And that's why when I look at statistics, if they don't seem right, I would say professionally, you got to run that over again. We need to get another experiment. I can't go off of that data. So just to give you a little background on who I am and how I look at these numbers. Yeah, and that's kind of interesting because I'm not a quality engineer, but I have a neural networking capability where I also spot anomalies.

2:09:55 It's the weirdest stuff that I can spot, but certainly, and I'm not a financial or numbers guy at all. Numbers to me, I smell it right away. Can't always explain it, but I know something's going on. That's what I've been able to do my whole life. It's very odd. So we're kind of the same in that way. Yeah, we are because the way I liken my job to is kind of like a police and the fact that you'll get a hunch, but then you have to prove your hunch or hypothesis. You had to prove it with empirical data. With clips. With clips. You got to go to your office and say, listen to this clip of Stacey Adrams. That's why those numbers are off. This is what makes me. It's just that I can't set.

2:10:36 No, I love to investigate. And that's just a little inside baseball about Mo. So we know there's a recount coming, hand count first, and then the audit is a total different process if necessary. So we continue on with Wolf here. And he brings in Republican Secretary of State, Brad Raffensburg. And the reason why I cite Republican is because that's how they refer to him in the blurb on the video and then in the actual segment is Republican Secretary of State. So that's like, you know, already, hey, guys, it's going to be some BS because the Republicans are doing the counting.

2:11:20 But we'll let Brad continue on here. And as far as you know, these ballots are all legitimate, right? All the ballots have been, particularly the ones with in-person voting, but we go through a process that counties do of accepting the absentee ballots. They've been verified. And then they're also, if the marks aren't made clear that they are adjudicated by a three-person panel, one Republican, one Democrat, and then the county election official, to make sure we verify the intent of every voter to make sure that we have a lawful process and those are legal ballots. I'm just curious, Mr. Secretary, how long do you think this can go on with President Trump refusing to concede that he lost the election because he wouldn't just have to flip the results in Georgia?

2:12:06 He'd have to flip other states as well. And we know that's simply not going to happen. Oh. Oh, okay. That's right. Well, you know, Wolf, he knows, man. He's on the inside. It's simply not going to happen. No. Which, hold on, let me. Now, this is a great entry point on this. There might be factions that say, you know what? We're done with Trump. Sure. No matter what the numbers say, no matter how it goes, we're done with Trump. And I want to just take a couple of minutes to have this conversation because we might not be able to have it again. Could it be that Amy Colette, Coney Barrett sealed Donald Trump?

2:12:49 Trump's fate in a negative way? I've heard this. I haven't. I haven't. So this is my original idea of mine. Yes. But it crossed my mind. What I heard is that it would be a recusal that she would seal his fate by recusing herself in a vote that would essentially go well that she would refuse. Let me expound on what I'm saying about Celda's fate. What more can he give the Republicans? From a political standpoint, he's given them. And this is what Dvorak's theory is.

2:13:34 He did his job. He gave the just shy of 300 federal judges, two Supreme Court judges, awakened people, the three. I'm sorry. Awakened people. No, but that's important. I didn't mean to cut you out, but that's important. Two to three. Yes. That's the point I'm making. Yeah, but that was the one that pushed the Supreme Court over the edge for a long time. No, but if Roof was still hanging on, we need to let Make Trump win. But since Roof made an early exit, it wrapped it up. We don't need the second term of Trump to get that third justice. That would be a rebrand.

2:14:18 Okay. So, yes, I believe that in general, the Republican Party really wants that and that they are in general terms. I'm not talking about the people. I'm talking about the political entity that lives in Washington. That's what we always talk about here. Yeah, that's very, they got to be very clear. It's like the same. When I talk about China, I'm obviously not talking about the China Man. I'm talking about the Chinese Communist Party. Yes, of course, because if Trump prevails and wins, they're going to learn the actual meaning of the term savage because he's got all kinds of stuff set up and heads are going to roll.

2:14:56 And probably Bill Barr will be one of the heads. But if Roof was still hanging on right now, they would have their arm twisted behind their back. Yeah. Because they need Trump to appoint her replacement. But her exiting early before the election, there's no, from a political standpoint, there's no more need of Trump. No, exactly. From the political standpoint, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. I just want to put that out there because it just like, you know, you have an epiphany. Like, well, holy shit.

2:15:35 They don't need him anymore. No, no. No, they don't. They don't. Well, along with that goes what George Carlin said a long time ago. If voting actually made a difference, they would have outlawed it a long time ago. So this is the United States, and I believe the world is going to get a very, very interesting and perhaps harsh lesson in civics when people find, because what is the number one term used in the mainstream media? But I would say everywhere in the United States and incorrectly about our system and our government and

2:16:18 our country exactly. And this is where democracy is going to awaken when they find out we are not a democracy and we are a republic. And that mainly is the political system when it comes down to brass tax and numbers and how someone gets elected. There's no learning. People are going to freak out if Trump prevails. They will not understand what happened because they are ignorant of the system. That is correct. And just one more minute on this topic. They pick your primaries. We heard that back when Bernie Sanders in 2016.

2:17:00 That one guy, I think he was some kind of election official of DNC. Like, oh, no, no. You just made the suggestion of who we want to pick. We actually picked the candidates. That's true. So if the DNC and RNC actually pick the candidates for who you're going to vote for, and then Electoral College actually picks of the two parties picked. Yes. What choice do you really have? Well, that's the whole joke of it. And look at the committee for the debate committee. I forget what it's called, the presidential debate committee.

2:17:41 That's only two parties. It's only the Republicans and the Democrats. You can't get on a debate stage if you were a third party, which is how they've manipulated everybody into believing worldwide that the United States has a two-party system. Factually not true, but that's taught in schools. I don't think civics is taught in schools anymore. I don't have to check that. It doesn't appear. It doesn't appear that way. That's for sure. Not in the iteration that I took it, where you had to have an understanding of how the government worked. I'm sure some kind of place. As you've seen, the 14-year-old is reading what kind of books they're reading in social studies. Exactly. Thank you. That's your social studies now. So let's just get back on track here with NPR.

2:18:23 We have Audi Cornish. Oh, yeah. And she talks with reporter Maya King on the surge, the surge, surge, black voters in Georgia. The lead of your story is that almost every black Georgia voter has a story from 2018. Talk about how 2018 has fueled what we're seeing now. So we know in 2018, when Stacey Abrams launched her gubernatorial bid, she registered a record number of voters for that time, more than 200,000. And it really geared up excitement and engagement among Democrats in the state who were relatively confident that she would be successful.

2:19:01 As the election got closer, a number of voters found that they were mistakenly removed from the roles, which set them up for a very confusing process of filling out provisional ballots that might not have been counted. At the end of that election, Brian Kemp, who was elected, was also the state's Secretary of State, which called into question just how fair this election really was in the way that it was administered. Stacey Abrams lost the race by fewer than 60,000 votes, which is nearly on track with the number of votes that were removed from the rolls. Oh, yes. Yes, of course. We remember the story. Another number. She just said that Stacey Abrams

2:19:46 signed up, registered 200,000 people for her gubernatorial race. Then another 800,000 after that's a million people. A million. You only got 5 million voters in Georgia. And a million of them was registered by Stacey Abrams in the term in the period of, let's just say, four years. Let's say she got her ground game going in 2016, two years prior to the midterm election, and now we're at 2020. A million voters registered. Huh. You know, does she publish any numbers on her?

2:20:26 I'm going to look at her Fair Fight website. Does she publish these numbers as facts? I didn't find it. But I do have a number for you. She has less than a thousand followers on her YouTube page for the share fight. Well, then we know that her whole being is a hoax. No, I'm just. You can't even get over a thousand. Yeah. Yeah. Subs on your YouTube channel, which you would think. I mean, that's where all her campaign ads and information is being placed. You would be pointing people in that direction. You have, I think, like 700, I think it was. It was less than 1,000, I'm for sure. Yeah.

2:21:08 So less than 1,000 subs, but you register a million people in four years. That's pretty, that's pretty incredible. I'm just saying. I ain't saying, but I'm saying. Now, does a registration from 2018, do you have to re-register for the 2020 in Georgia? Or you can just, that's okay. I'm going to say it again. I'm just going to say it again. Maya King says she registered 200,000 for the 2018 race. I'm referring to an MSN article that says Abrams, following her narrow loss in 2018 gubernatorial race, she says, has registered more than 800,000 new voters.

2:21:55 That's a meal. That's a meal, bro. No, I see. I actually, I see USA today. No, I'm just saying. Fact-checking this. No, I'm not. One-fifth. No, I think it's a five-year-old voters in Georgia. Mo, that's clearly horse crap. It's just, it's not, that doesn't make any sense. But they say it, though, and say it proudly and say, oh, yeah, she did 200,000 here and another 800,000. You know, great. Yeah, that's just that makes no sense. I'm praying for you, Stacey. I'm letting you know now. I'm praying for you. She is going to be that bag is going to be so big when it comes down. Gosh.

2:22:39 Yeah. Mm-hmm. let me provide a little context. I said, Loretta Lynch, the guy that had the money in the freezer down in Louisiana, Mayor Ray Nagan. Do we not see a trend here? When it's time to hold the bag. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. Put a black person on the handle. We're going to get more into that, but now we're going over to CB CBS News, and this is James Brown, not the singer, the reporter. And he's talking to Latasha Brown, no Ken, I don't think, from Black Voters Matter, excuse me. And this is the deciders' black vote in 2021.

2:23:24 African-American voters are concerned most of all about the coronavirus and health care. But fewer than half are confident their vote will be counted correctly. And turnout is key. The number of blacks voting for president dropped in 2016 for the first time in 20 years. You passionately articulated what the concerns are of blacks now. Are you expecting that to translate into sizable turnout in this election? What I am sensing that people are frustrated and tired. And because of that, folks are motivated by different things in this election cycle. And so I do think you're going to have record number turnout.

2:24:06 Okay. We didn't. We didn't. And I want to say one more thing: record numbers, registration, and the age of COVID. Now, we heard in previous clips that was one of the things they struggle with. The Hispanics, they struggle with getting people out because they couldn't hit the ground. They couldn't knock on doors. Right. So how did they do it? Just enough. Please, I want to read this book because no, because if Stacey actually did this, she's sitting on a billion dollars. If you can actually truly turn that kind of turnout out. But let's go ahead and move quickly into the second portion of this clip. And this is CBS News

2:24:53 continue to talk about possible international plots. Even as turnout shatters records in 2020, Americans face new challenges to have their votes count. The FBI and intelligence officials have uncovered international plots to disrupt this election. Emails from Iran meant to scare people out of voting and Russian hackers targeting voting systems. Facebook has taken emergency measures to limit inflammatory content and false reporting. Many wonder if the postal system can handle the crush of mail-in ballots in the midst of the pandemic. There are reports that elections offices have been flooded with calls from anxious voters after the president attacked mail-in voting.

2:25:42 Coming up on the Deciders, the voice of Latinos growing louder by the day. What? I left that little. What? But enough about that. Back to Latinos. Wow. Black people, they're on your heels. That's basically what that was. That's why I left that in there. Start with the end. Their voice is growing louder every day. That's what they tell you. Now, the concern, the stealing of votes, you got Iran, you got Russia tampering with voting machines. Now, all of a sudden, we don't want to look in that anymore. We don't want to recount.

2:26:25 No, of course not. Hello. It's so blatantly obvious. It's just, okay, we see it. Previously, you were worried about Russians. You were worried about Iranians, which I don't know. North Korea. Don't forget they stole that movie. So, you know, North Korea could be doing this. But who's missing from that rundown? What nation? China. What nation? China. China. Who would have the most vested interest in getting 45 Savage up out of there? Yeah, that would be China. And this is, and I will say, as a side note, Sydney Powell, with all of her Venezuela and Cuba and Dominion and servers being raided in Germany and SmartMatic, she always winds up saying China.

2:27:11 I'm just saying that when you don't mention them, you go to Iran? Iran? Seriously? You threw North Korea in there. Yeah. Well, they're throwing that in because they, you know, they've from the day after the election, it was like, oh, and Trump's going to nuke Iran now. And so that's just, they're just throwing stuff out. Just. like flack, you know, when you got incoming fire and you're an aircraft, you spit out the flack and it distracts the missiles. That's what that is. And then they then say half of black voters are concerned their vote is going to be counted correctly or not. Yeah. What's even more reasonable? What happens? Run it back. What happens then?

2:27:57 I'm saying, if that's the truth, if you're saying, I'm going to take you to the truth, run it back. Recount the votes. Audit every vote. Make sure that the most disenfranchised voter population vote is being counted correctly. I demand a recount in Georgia and an audit. Every other, it will happen. It will happen. Yeah. No, I'm just saying, but if you want to say that they're the most disenfranchised, most oppressed, you shouldn't have any problem. Democrats shouldn't have any problem with the count being redone. That's all I'm saying. Okay. Especially with the history. Did you know there was a history of mail-in ballots being racist?

2:28:41 Oh, I'm sure. I guess. Well. When you don't want somebody to vote, you create various kinds of things. Now we'd come with the 1965 Voting Rights Act. They couldn't deny it outright. So you find ways to try to suppress it. One of these ways would be through challenging black voters' absentee ballots through accusations of fraud. It's one thing to be attacked by the local power structure. Hank Sanders represented the defendants in one such case brought by the U.S. Attorney in Alabama at the time, Jeff Sessions. The U.S.

2:29:23 Attorney referred to these as the voter fraud cases. We decided that they were voter persecution cases. Sanders' clients were voting rights activists. Albert Turner, who had marched with John Lewis and Selma. This is bloody Sunday. Albert conceived that Tim Bright fear. And his wife Evelyn. They've been helping black residents fill out their ballots and mailing them. Okay. Hank Sanders, he held the bag. You see how this works? All the shenanigans. Stacy is so screwed, man. Oh, man. Stacey, dunk and cover.

2:30:10 Hank Sanders was left holding the bag. Jeff Sessions came after him for filling out absentee ballots. I think believes it was in Alabama, if I'm not mistaken. And he caught a case, just trying to do some good trouble with his buddy down there and sell him. But wow. Yeah, he, yeah, he caught a case. And let's just find out what happened when he caught that charge. They've been helping black residents fill out their ballots and mailing them. Both of us were indicted, myself and my wife, and I love our friend Spencer Hogue.

2:30:51 We're indicted on 29 counts of what is called vote fraud. The Turners were facing decades in prison. It was my impression that Jeff Session thought that those. Oh, I just want to hear that. They trailed him off. I want to hear that one bit again. Hold on. Let me go back. Friend, Spencer Hog, were indicted on 29 counts of what is called vote fraud. The Turners were facing decades in prison. It was my impression that Jeff Session thought that those legal cases would stop black folks from not only using absentee button, but stop black folks from voting in the numbers that black people were

2:31:34 voting. At every chance he got, he was talking about voter fraud, voter fraud. Sessions denied that the case was racially motivated and insisted what the Turners did was illegal. In the end, the jury found nothing they did had broken the law. But the idea that absentee ballots were susceptible to widespread fraud would live on. Wow, this is a part of the story I never knew about. That's very interesting. Yeah, and you can see Frontline was rolling it out to chill in the water. And of course, absentee ballots is nothing compared to the mail-in ballots that were the way it was done this election.

2:32:15 It was two completely different things. Correct. Because I believe the difference is absentee ballots have to be or are solicited where you have to remember. You have to request and you have to give a reason. Okay, so that's not that your reason is denied necessarily, but you have to give a reason and that's evaluated. And the astronauts can vote. In fact, the astronauts do vote and they put on their absentee ballot request. I'm in space, bitches, and they get to vote. But anytime you got Jeff Sessions involved, that was the bell for me, Sessions.

2:32:56 Come on. So just to look into Hank or Henry Sanders' background. After law school, Sanders won a Ford Foundation fellowship. Okay. And they sent him to Africa for a year. Go back home, son. Don't we see these trends where these people get these foundation and then they get sent to Africa? It's called a guy. I forgot it's called Quid Pro Quo is what it's called. No, but you were saying about the stronghold of intelligence agencies in Africa and these kind of things. Oh, absolutely. Yep. But we saw that with the guy. It slips my memory now.

2:33:36 It was the guy that came back, that was following King around, the photographer. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. Graduate from college, and I hate his name slips my mind, but it was off the cuff. But went to Africa, got a college educated, went to Africa. I'm not saying anything. I'm just Ford Foundation. That's a red flag and getting shipped off to Africa for a year for some kind of training. I'm just going to leave it there. Yes, that's exactly training. You nailed it on the head. So Hank ended up becoming a politician after years of

2:34:14 doing this kind of political work. And he has a robocall. Would you be interested in hearing his problematic robocall? I would certainly love to hear that. Come on in, Hank. Fridays, it was 41 p.m. Hello, this is Hank fan of the Alabama State Seminary. I'm still mad as hell. I say, hell no, I ain't going back to the cotton fields and Jim Crow says. I'm going forward with Ron Fox, Jim Bolford, and others who would do right by all of us. I hope you are mad as hell and will not go back. You have the power to kill. I will stand until hell freed the vote. O'Brien Fox for governor, Jim Bolford, for Lieutenant Governor on November the 6th.

2:34:56 Pay for the Alabama men south. Not going back to the cotton fields. This Republic is going to take you back to the cotton field. And you could probably hear at the end, but it's paid for the New South. So this New South, I keep seeing it pop up: New South, New South. So we have to keep our eye on that one. I don't have anything concrete on it yet, but I ran into it several times doing this investigation. New South is a slogan in the history of the American South or the American Civil War. Interesting. Right. Okay. Keep our eye on it. Got it. So just an example: if this thing goes sour in Atlanta, we've seen something like this before playout in Georgia and Atlanta specifically.

2:35:43 And that was the Atlanta school system scandal. Worst school cheating scandal in this country. One of the nation's biggest school systems caught up in it. And it's not the middle school students who are being blamed. Instead, they're teachers and school leaders. ABC Steve Oz and Samuel on the case tonight. At this Georgia courthouse, you'd think they were indicting mobsters with charges like racketeering and theft. But the accused thugs now fighting serious jail time are 35 Atlanta teachers, principals, and test coordinators. The whole purpose behind this is to vindicate the little children who got

2:36:22 jepped out of an education. The indictments are the latest page from a now three-year-long investigation that has shaken the faith of parents with schoolchildren here. At one point, nearly 200 teachers from 44 schools were accused of changing student answers to improve scores on federally required standardized tests. Frustrated and disappointed. If a jury finds him guilty, they should go to prison. The educator in the most trouble is former schools chief Beverly Hall, a national superintendent of the year who faces up to 45 years in prison. She's accused of giving bonuses to teachers who inflated test scores and firing teachers who didn't. She says she's innocent. Well, what we're saying is, is that without her, this conspiracy could not have taken place.

2:37:06 Former Atlanta school teacher Sidney Fells told us she was under so much pressure to cheat, she quit first. We were told that we needed to get these scores by any means necessary. I've forgotten all about this. When was this? This was like six years ago, maybe? Yeah, mid to early 2000s. 2000s. But yeah, they were left holding the bag. Most, if not all, the teachers were black, mostly female. And they got screamed. Oh, my goodness. 45 years for the thugs. You heard what they said. The thugs. Oh, man. ABC News.

2:37:43 This is ABC News. And do you remember Aunt Becky? What she got for the Michigan scandal? What, like two months, 60 days? Peanuts. If that, yeah. Now, this is the clear. This is what I'm talking about when we say systemic racism. 45 years for changing some test scores. And these people use their power and influence and they only get months. And then it's, oh, yeah, you can come show up when you want to. Some of them are like, yeah, you can come if you want to kind of thing. Or your husband can serve for you if, you know, we'll let him go do your time for you. It was some. So let's take bets. How many years do you think Stacey Abrams will get?

2:38:32 Election fraud. And somebody's going to roll. And I'm going to just say this. Atlanta people don't get mad at me. Atlanta is known for the scam. They're known for the flim flam, the finesse, as they call it. So, so this thing, there's no telling who could flip to say, I did this. I was told to do that to save their own hides. It's too, it's too many loose ends hanging out. I'm not saying what's going to happen, but just looking at historical data, how when it's conspiracies that go on, like the school rigging of school testing, you saw how the hammer came out Swift.

2:39:15 You saw who was left holding the bag and you saw how everybody turned their back on him. It's like, these thugs. Thugs. I find this analysis of this show spectacular that I had not considered that this would take place. And I think you may be right. And no matter the outcome, I think you're right. I think Stacey Abrams has a target on her head now. But wait, there's more. Oh, no. Texas woman. A woman in Texas was sentenced to return to prison today because she voted in the 2016 election. As Omar Via Franca reports, the woman used her real name and identification, but her criminal past made voting a crime.

2:39:56 And she said, put your hands behind your back. You have a horror arrest. Crystal Mason still remembers the day she was arrested for voting in the last presidential election. My mom kept nagging, go vote, go vote, go vote, go vote. And I was just like, okay, I did what she said. I went to go vote. The 43-year-old was on supervised release for tax fraud when she cast her ballot. In Texas, that's against the law. Do you feel that since you served your time and you were out of prison that you should be able to go and cast a prisoner? Well, we should. We pay taxes. And that's what I believed. If I had a doubt in any way, I wouldn't have did it.

2:40:32 Here, felons can't vote until they have completed their full sentence. Now, Mason faces five years in state prison for voter fraud and today was given 10 months in federal prison for violating the terms of her supervised release. Are you mentally ready for that? Not at all. I'm not ready. Nationwide, an estimated 6.1 million felons are restricted from voting. Nearly half a million of them are in Texas. In 13 states, felons lose the right to vote indefinitely.

2:41:11 So this lady went, did what her mama told her to do and go vote. Just like Chancellor Rapper told you, vote like your mama. I'll tell you to vote. And called a case. Five years on top of the 10 months that she had to serve. And she was out. But her sentence hadn't been finished yet. She goes to vote, which I'm going to take a sidebar here. Yeah. I am a firm believer that once your sentence is done, all your rights should be given back to you that day.

2:41:47 Unless there's evidence that one of those rights may be a harm to the public, say if you were a violent offender and to get your Second Amendment right back, then they need to prove that giving your rights back is a harm to the public. But it shouldn't be that you need to prove that you should have your rights back. They should be reinstated the very day that you paid your debt to society. Yeah, I'm in agreement with you. I'm in agreement with you. And I think probably your record should be expunged. expunged because I know people who have gone to federal prison for white-collar crime and

2:42:28 which is questionable if they're victims, but doesn't matter. Crime is a crime. Two years, it could be two months, doesn't matter. You come out, you're marked. You're never working again. You're never working again. You might as well just pack it in. It's horrible. So, so I wanted to show this case. These two cases, the Atlanta School case, and then this woman in Texas that voted. I don't think she had any ill will or was doing it out of any act of criminal act. She was just going to exercise her right to vote as she should be allowed to do so. Right. But five years, bam. Just like that. That's crazy. That's just nuts.

2:43:10 So what I'm pointing out here, if they put that kind of pressure on anybody that has the kind of information that could be flipped, watch out. That's all I'm saying. Oh, yeah. They will hurt you. They will do it. Yeah. So this is where we, but wait, there's more. No. No. No. No. So one of my favorite people, Miss Cynthia McKinney. Oh, I got some information for her. And, well, I'll just let you let her give her take on the 2020 U.S. election. Do we need to talk about who she is first? We can do that afterwards. Sure, sure. We can. Well, I'll tell you how I know about

2:43:54 it, please. Now, she was a politician. She was a member of the House of Representatives. She's from Georgia. And when I first kind of started learning about stuff in general, looking deeper, the internet had really helped a lot with that. So 2000, well, it was much earlier than that. But she was kind of a sweetheart of the 9-11 truther movement for a while. And she got her ass shut down like hardcore. And she really disappeared from the scene almost overnight. Well, she got the cancel canon. Can we get a cancel cannon, please?

2:44:38 This is a post-cancel canon for Cynthia McKinney. So just like that. Where did she show up? Where'd she show up to talk about the 2020 election? What news? On some fringe, on some friends, I was going to say YouTube channel that I follow. You have to be because she was threatened, man. I think she had to stop doing this for her life. I want to show, I wanted to juxtapose two people. One, Miss Cynthia McKinney, with one, Miss Maxine Waters. They both came in talking hot stuff. Maxine Water was talking about the intelligence agencies that supported the drug trade in California.

2:45:23 And around the same time, you had Cynthia McKinney talking about DynCorps and all the stuff that they were doing and the children and this and that. Fast forward, one lady is damn near like a power royalty royalty. Right. And then the other one has been outcast, pauperized, cast out to the fringes of YouTube. What's your take on where we are in relation to who won and what's going to happen in the next few weeks? Well, it is really difficult for me to watch this, for me and my mom, in fact,

2:46:06 to watch this as it unfolds because this is really a deja vu for me. Georgia was the very first state in the country to deploy electronic voting machines. And at the time the decision was being made, computer software and hardware experts were ringing my phone, telling me, Cynthia, we've got a problem. And so I became involved in the issue of electronic voting machines. The software, the hardware, the choice of manufacturer and company that tabulates the votes, all of that.

2:46:50 I was involved in it at the very beginning. Let me just point out that you were a six-term congresswoman and it took them seven terms in electronic voting machines to finally cheat you out of office. Well, yes, you're absolutely right about that. Yeah, and it's coming back to me now. This was the Diebold or D-Bold machines. which I think actually became Dominion slash Smart Matic, or they bought them up or something. And there was a relationship with Romney's, Bain Capital.

2:47:28 And if you brought that up, same as today, they'd be like, yeah, you conspiracy theorists, Tennet Foyle Hardware. And that's how she got branded. Yeah, but six-time winner of her district. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, the electronic voting machines come in and she's out of there. It doesn't work like that in district politics. Once you have the people's hearts, unless you just do something like get caught with, you know, it's the reason why Maxine Waters gets re-elected, why Nancy Pelosi gets re-elected, Chuck Schumer, and honestly, Lindsey Graham.

2:48:12 I mean, these people just keep getting elected over and over and over again, if it's done fairly. All right. So let's let Cynthia continue on how she was scammed. And so what I'd like to do today is Memorial Day. And so we are also stopping to recognize the valiant service of our veterans. But let me also, we have veterans of very many different types of wars. And there's one veteran of the electronic voting machine war whose name I want to invoke at the moment and whose memory I would like to recall.

2:48:55 His name is Ethan Gibbs. He was an accountant. And I'm using the past tense. And it's still very difficult for me. But Ethan Gibbs, as an accountant, who also just happened to be a black man, but more important than any of that, he was a patriot and he loved this country. So when the decision was made after the fiasco of 2000 in Florida, the decision was made to utilize these electronic voting machines. And Athan Gibbs, being an accountant, decided that he was going to perfect this type of this new type of machine for the administration of our voting system in the United States.

2:49:44 He came up with redundancy, reliability, accountability, privacy as well, because people have the right to cast their votes in private. And his machine began to win accolades across the country. Ah, this is a story I know nothing about. You are blowing my mind right now. Okay. So this is where the extra time pays off. Yes. Just to let the producers know. I know you're calling, like, hey, what's the product?

2:50:27 Producers, calm down. Exactly. Drop that product. Yes, exactly. Right. This is the extra time allow me to unearth uncounted the tragic story of Athan Gibbs documentary. There was an African-American man who was an accountant who had come to me and asked for the opportunity to place a bid to provide Georgia with its electronic voting machines. His name was Athan Gibbs. Ethan was horrified about the 2000 elections.

2:51:08 Not necessarily whether the Democrats or Republicans won, but the fact is that millions of people's vote didn't count. In the 2000 election, there were 180,000 uncounted votes in Florida. There were over 80,000 uncounted votes in the state of Georgia. In Cook County, there were 62,000 uncounted votes. There's the real problem. He had a very simple concept that you should be able to verify your vote, just like you can verify your money in a bank and the money you get out of an ATM machine.

2:51:46 The machine prints out a paper ballot that shows who you voted for. Once you verify that the ballot accurately recorded who you voted for, you drop it into a ballot box. The machine still counts the votes on election night. But if there's a challenge by one of the candidates, it's the paper ballot that gets counted. There are a lot of folks who sold us machinery in the past who want to sell us machinery in the future. future that do not live up to the Athen Gibbs standard. Machines that don't live up to the Democratic standard. And we shouldn't accept second best. There can never be any one county post where the voter does not have an opportunity to verify that their votes have been received, recorded, and counted.

2:52:31 Yeah. Yeah, and this is an overarching problem with the computer age, the cell phone age, the belief that everything just kind of is out there and we can always retrieve it. And I was quite surprised myself when we voted this year that the machine I used, which was, now they've rejected the Dominion systems in Texas, but the machine I received spit out a paper ballot. Then I verified it was my choices. Then you go over to another machine and I was a little surprised by this. It took my ballot, it sucked it in, and it was, here's a sticker, Mr. Curry. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And it looked like the paper ballots, you know, the machine that does the optical scanning,

2:53:17 no reason to doubt that. It's sitting on top of what looks like a big trash can, which is exactly where that paper goes. You don't get a receipt. Yeah, you don't. Yes, you don't get a receipt. And from what I understand, a lot of the actual images taken by these machines weren't even set to retain those records either. And here's the icing on the cake. Diebold at the time was making ATM machines. They give you receipts. They give you receipts. Yeah. Well, those things were, and it probably was, I mean, it's a long time ago, but I was doing these types of shows.

2:53:56 And I think that that came up in the conversation. It was a lot about it, but it was, you know, of course, shut up. What do you know? Yeah. So Ethan, he wanted to do the right thing. What happened to Athen? But it didn't just turn out well for play the next clip. But he was now, his company wasn't chosen because the lobbyists were able to select the company based on friendships, who got hired, and that sort of thing. So let's cut to the chase. They selected the company that would allow them to rig the election.

2:54:40 That's exactly what happened. That's right. Thank you so much. And so Diebold ended up being the company selected to administer the elections in the state of Georgia. Now, this was rife with problems from the very beginning. And in the end, my petard ended up being hoisted on the electronic voting machines. So I lost my congressional career based on the malperformance of the Diebold electronic voting machines.

2:55:21 Now, what we're seeing. Which had no paper backups, right? No paper backups. And in addition to that, we experienced a phenomenon that we just could not understand. That was we had vote flipping. So the constituent would go into the voting booth, select the candidate of their choice, and then the machine would flip away from that candidate. And the voter would not even know it if they weren't paying attention. They would leave the precinct having not voted for the candidate of their choice.

2:56:04 I know you asked a question and it's going to be answered a little late. I thought I would answer that clip, but what have we been hearing about in the news lately? Exactly this. This is the Sidney Powell story that votes have been flipped. Ground Zero, Georgia. Ground Zero, Georgia. Here you have Cynthia McKinney, which if somehow, some way her story can be told and documented in some kind of quality. These are fine, but I mean, they're Zoom calls and that kind of thing. This lady's story needs to be told. These are the, you want to say heroes or talk about black history or these are the people that we need to be celebrating.

2:56:51 And she, she has been or certainly was very celebrated at the time for her and for her heroism. And I would have to go back and look at the research I did on her and the clips. I think a lot of it surrounds. surrounded, as I said, 9-11, but there were other things that she also was looking into. I just remember she got threatened, marginalized, and told to shut up and go away. And she kind of did. Well, she's still around. She's still talking, but nobody won't put a microphone in her face, you know, to get her story out there. And she was ran out of office. If you take by her accounts, she was ran out by crooked machines.

2:57:35 This is what she's saying. And she was a Democrat. So if you want to play the party lines, she should be heard. As everybody should be heard. Now, you had a question, and I inerrantly promised you an answer to it, but I think this next clip should answer your question. He'd say, You're an investigative reporter. Why don't you report? And I say, Well, you know, why is he bugging me? You know, I mean, what's you know, I don't see any story here. He said, You know, think about this: D-Bolt

2:58:18 is an ATM machine maker. Every single one of their ATM machines gives you a receipt and has an audit trail. And he told me, I'm coming this as an accountant and an auditor, right? Why would you make a machine that doesn't provide a paper trail and can't be audited? And left it at that. And I said, That's a good question. And I began to trace the history. And then I wrote an article right after that, which is a cover story in the free press. And then Harvey Wassernan and I wrote a follow-up article for MotherJones.com.

2:58:57 The great tragedy was one week after the free press article occurred in the Mother Jones article occurred. About one week, Athan Gibbs died in a tragic accident where his car veered in front of a truck. Oh my goodness. One week. Yeah. This is like the reporter, Michael Hastings, who had a huge story and crashed his car into a tree at 80 miles an hour in Los Angeles. Yeah. And these crazy things happen. And like I said, Ethan Gibbs' story needs to be told.

2:59:38 Here is a black and pips man that shows his wanted to be a patriot, want to bring the truth to the light, want to provide people with their voice can be heard, proof that your voice is being heard. Now, I'll say this: why is it that Home Depot has a better record-keeping system than our election system? When I go to Home Depot, it said, Do you want a paper receipt? And do you want the email to you as well? Why don't our voting machines have that? Because it's you're only supposed to have the idea that you're voting. Hello. And by the way, since we're doing this, I'll just say, and this was back in the D-Bold, Diebold days, when

3:00:24 it was 2012, Romney. I remember distinctly, I remember seeing Romney ahead early on, and then all of a sudden it flipped, and there was this huge surge for Obama. And I remember, and we talked about it on No Agenda. I said, come on, man, that was weird. And it was very similar to what we saw in hindsight, differences, but that's like what? Hold on a second. Everything was, hey, how did that just happen? Where did all this come from? You'd expect something to be kind of on a steady scale as we've seen in elections past. But that was there. I was there watching it. I know exactly what you're talking about.

3:01:06 These numbers are funny. And the count goes on. What the hell are y'all counting? No, seriously. People need to. What is being counted right now? What took what used to be done in one night days and days and days to do? It's like a running joke in my house right now. Like, still counting. You know what I mean? I don't know. Who knows? Who knows? And so we have this final clip from Miss Cynthia McKinney, and it pretty much wraps up a notion that we've always talked about on the show.

3:01:45 In our time together in the RV with our staffer going across the country, you turned to me one day and you said, Robert, all the bad things that are happening to white people today happen to black people first. That's one of the coolest things you ever. ever said to me. Oh, well, yes. Hello, Captain Obvious. We've known about this. It's not cool, is it? Like, I understand what he's saying, but like, that's one of the coolest things. And now we have the ISO. Just so I don't have to redundantly say it, we have him saying it now. All the bad things that are happening to white people today happen to black people first.

3:02:28 Yeah. And there you have it. So it happened. So your point being, and well taken, happened to Cynthia McKinnon. McKinney happened to. Now, by the way. Yes. Hank Johnson was. No, I thought he followed her, succeeded her. No, I guess not. That's so rotten, man. What is the hell is going on in Georgia? That's what I'm saying. District politics don't work that way. No. Maybe statewide, if you're talking about Senate, those kind of things, but these districts, whoever they put up wins, pretty much. I mean, because they're, for a lack of better word, they're gerrymandered or designed to work that way.

3:03:08 You have pocket strongholds because of the socioeconomic making, what makes up that district. So for her to get ran out of office, and it doesn't make any sense. Six years, that's me. Your people love you. And she was fighting for the average man. So what was the grander strategy of that particular election? So to get her out is one thing. Right. Who came in? But I mean, what was the overall strategy, do you think? Just because she's a pain in the ass and a problem because she had questions? Yeah, we can get rid. We can get rid of politics. Now, fast forward now.

3:03:47 We can get rid of politicians that are headaches. We can flip these machines on and flip votes. They don't have any receipts. And anybody that makes any noise, they get silenced one way or the other. So she was beaten by Denise Majette. And just reading from Wikipedia, it's just interesting. She defeated 10-year incumbent Cynthia McKinney in the Democratic primary. Majette, who had never run in a partisan contest before, defeated McKinney by a 58 to 42 margin.

3:04:25 Come on. Come on. And right there, it says McKinney had attracted controversy due to her comments after the September 11th, 2001 terrorist attacks. The primary was also influenced, and this is Wikipedia, influenced by crossover Republicans, i.e., Republicans who used their ability to vote in a Democratic caucus in Georgia. Oh, really? So she was a troublemaker for 9-11. It seems like that's why she had to go. And the other thing she was saying about some of these groups and what they were doing on foreign soil. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She had a lot of issues about the FBI, the CIA, etc. Oh, yeah.

3:05:10 Big time. Big time. She was a voice. She is a voice of truth, and I think she needs not to be marginalized. And it kind of pisses me off. I've always followed her on Twitter ever since, you know, keeping up with her. Well, I'm going to see if we can find her. She would be great to talk to about and talk to. And certainly as it relates to what's going on, at least the claims of what happened this year. Let's see if we can find her. I'm sure she's findable, but I thought she stopped kind of doing interviews. She didn't do too much. No, she's out there. She's active. She's active, especially in this climate. And one more thing, and then we could put the cherry on top because this is really going to get you. Oh, boy.

3:05:48 She's one of the one that laid out the idea of the divide in the deep state. I can't find this video anymore, but I've seen it, and I'll just give you what I took away from it: that there's a divide in the deep state, and it's called like the piggies against the deep state. And the piggies are basically the wasps, the killer wasps. Let me get there more specifically that don't subscribe to global government. They're more nationalist. Right. And that's what makes up the military backing that you see with Trump now. And that's her explanation. And I found it to be wonderful. And I wish I wasn't doing this at the time or I would have snagged it. But I need to find that clip because her breakdown was like, wow, like eye-opening. She's like, no, it's the divide in the deep state right now.

3:06:33 So she's around. She's dropping a lot of good information. Yeah, all over the place. And I think she's more than credible. Not just credible. I think she's more than credible. All right, producers, producers of the MoFax Show, go get me. Get me Cynthia McKinney. Please. We need to talk to her. Where her story could be documented and she. she could shine more light on Ethan Gears, who I think is a true American hero. With all that said, I have this great clip from Chuck Schumer. Go ahead and hit it. Now we take Georgia and we change the world. Oh, yeah.

3:07:18 Now we take Georgia and then we change America. I know. I saw this. I love that. I love he put on his mask and did it again for the press who were asking him to say it and he changed it. What did he change it to, Adam? We take the world and then he changed it to we change America. Now we know what's going on. We know what's happening over there. He said, first we take Georgia, then we change the world. He sounds like a daggone Confederate general. What? Yeah, he had to change that real quick. He realized his mistake.

3:07:56 I don't think anyone really caught that that way, actually. I did. But you know, it's typical M5M, the news, they're like, oh, oh, that was a bad take. Let's pick it up on the second good take. Okay, clip it there. And they just negate that whole part. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. First, we take Georgia, then we take the world. So this is interesting, Mo. You've done a couple things. First, you blow my mind. Cynthia McKinney never expected her to come up in this context on this show. And I honestly hadn't thought about her in a long time. To peg, so obviously, this beautiful in the context of what's being discussed now with how this may, if this was a rigged election, how it may have happened.

3:08:41 You don't have to convince me that we're doing it in a dumb manner. I like the stick your finger in the ink pot personally. But also, Stacey Abrams holding the bag and Georgia being the battleground, with Chuck Schumer confirming it. Outstanding work, young man. Outstanding work. Perfect. I appreciate it, Adam. This is very good. I like this a lot. Oh, my goodness. I'm going to be awake for days now trying to figure this thing out. Georgia, everybody. Eyes on Georgia. Eyes on Georgia. And as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself.

3:09:22 Mo, thank you so much for another fun-filled Saturday. I can't wait to do it again with you. Same to you, Adam. Thanks, everybody. We'll see you next time. Bye-bye. Hoover in Byman suitcase. Trying to find a warm place to spend the night. Heavy rain falling. Seems I hear your voice calling. It's all right. A rainy night in Georgia.

3:10:10 A rainy night in Georgia. It seems like it's raining all over the world. I feel like it's raining all over the world. Neon signs are flashing. Taxi cabs and buses passing through the land. A distant morning of a train seems to play a sad refrain to the night.

3:10:55 A rainy night in Georgia. Such a rainy night in Georgia. Lord, I believe it's raining all over the world. I feel like it's raining all over the world. How many times I wondered the same. And no matter how you look at it or think of it, it's alive.

3:11:41 And you just got to play the game.