This Shizzle Got Serious - The Wrap Up #31

00:00 Hey, welcome. It's that time of the week again! It's not Friday though so don't get confused if you haven't lost a day or gained today... I've no idea but it is the wrap up. It's that time in the week where we get together talk stuff and talks shit with dads living the best lives ever let's roll Welcome to Team Superdad. Real dads creating their best lives ever, more time more money more fun you are not alone your on team super dad hey welcome welcome bonjour bonjour bonjour how the devil are you? I'm good really good

00:43 I'm, you know got a bit of swagger on me which we'll talk about in a bit but uh yeah it's been a crazy week just trying to write the show notes for tonight just kind of giving us a rundown. I was trying to find some fun things to talk about it's been really amazing Yeah, it's been... I mean as well as physically draining. I've been out all day walks and I'm not... I've genuinely done more steps in the last seven days than iIve done in the last seven months! And that says more about me that it does about the work I've done this week but emotionally and work-wise has been absolutely mental you know again I like being busy but there are degrees but emotionally this week has been tough This has been a rough rough week in so many ways

01:28 And as an F1 fan I just dropped a bombshell on you as well with the show notes, didn't know about. Yeah i've been out all day and we've lost one of the what I would call the kind of cornerstones one of the foundations of the motor sport that I love. RIP Murray Walker Which we'll come back on in a little bit and that would talk about some of our favourite F1 memories. If you're not an F1 fan, well... tough! It should be basically it's one of the greatest sports on the planet. Yes it is a sport I've no argument in this it is an incredible team sport No it's up there in terms of world viewers isn't that so? That's how it kind of ranks and if you can justify it

02:13 I wonder where it's... maybe you can do a little Wikipedia whilst i'm waffling on. Most watch sports... Let me have a go at that while you waffle! Yeah, yeah so here we are we're on the Wrap Up 31 if you've not joined us before then you've missed 30 Well, actually I was about to say 30 epic episodes. You've missed 30 evolving episodes! We have got into this started off just me kind of a 20 minute wrap up of my week and as i work to pull other dads together I got introduced to Glenn and here we are we do this each week it is sometimes for more people we had Colin on the other week with Rich

02:55 And oh, I've met two guys who do another podcast very similar. Very similar and you know it's like they're flipping Monty Python the people's front of Judea and no no we are the people's front of Judea! Splitters!! So yeah so there are 2 dudes from London Always a good part of the world. And they've got a very similar thing going on, so I've been chatting to them both and we're gonna do a simulcast in a couple weeks. Ooh nice! Yeah easy for me to say right? Simulcast...I guess that could be quite sexual couldn't it?!

03:38 But it won't because there'll be four blokes and we're not going to be in here. Hey, men can be sexy! We can be all Barry White on it as opposed to naked. And I've lost track now... One mentioned a naked man and I've lost track of what I'm thinking about. So it has been a great week let me give you the rundown right? We got some working notes here Dad Of The Week. I'm gonna drop Harry I don't even know his surname. Harry Winchester? Yeah, Harry Windsor! I'm dropping Harry Windsor in as Dad of the Week. Now that they've got all these branding things you might have rebranded to Harry Sussex or Sussex Royal then. Harry the Royal. I've been checking in and catching bits of The Interview and all the yanks are calling him the Duke and Duchess of Netflix which is quite funny

04:36 And then Hot in the 90s for our regular listeners, watchers viewers subscribers. Yes subscribers! Subscribers I'm talking to you we love you subscribers if you're not subscribed yet hit the bell on YouTube Hit the follow and like get a notification bell on Facebook if you listen to the podcast and of course subscribe If you know...if your my neighbor... Just listening through the walls? Yeah I'll put a note when we go live Hot in the 90s, our little tribute to the hottest women from the 90's. We're going to do a Big Brother tribute in particular to one special lady this week. Dating! We love a Jonnie dating update and there was an interesting development in my dating activities this week which had me feel a little bit like Del Boy as I prepped dinner on Friday night

05:31 And yeah, and also this is we're going to try and keep funny in life. But some heavy stuff has gone down this week. Sadly a lady got murdered in the UK Sarah Everett Everett Everett Everdeen Everdeen Yes, so respect to her and her family but it has thrown up a whole A whole shitstorm here in the UK which we're going to loosely touch on without getting ourselves into too much complications. Some Murray Walker memories and a tattoo fixer showdown! I happened to catch a bit of Tattoo Fixers last night which just had me cracking up, which we'll get into. But if you haven't seen Tattoo Fixers it's the most ridiculous program where someone who has got a fairly innocent and not necessarily that bad tattoo and they go to a professional tattoo parlour very professional tattoo parlour and they turn a small tattoo generally into a massive tattoo under the guise of We fixed it!

06:32 Oh and it's always the same thing as well, it's always skulls with flowers and the women always come in and have a mandala. An elephant mandala or something like that! It's just like...it's the same bloody thing you know one thing and you don't even pretend to try to talk them into it that's what they've come for. Like a DJ doing his favourite mix yeah signature mix signature mix so So we'll keep on to that one because it is one of our light topics. So normally guys, normally listeners the wrap up is a benign bit of banter as we unearth... seemingly we do unearth a lot of embarrassing stories from my past The Jonnie Jensen Show, Jonnie Jensen,

07:29 And the Hero Academy. So, the Hero Academy is our signature program with the power code and we are dads creating our best lives ever and if you don't want to pay then just come and join The Network at teamsuperdad.com forward slash network We would love to have you on board Monday night sessions, The Facebook Group, the Firewalking events when were allowed to get together again A friend of mine just sent me... well he didn't send it to me put it on Facebook in there in Chicago like bigging up that they The St Patrick's Day stuff, all wearing green. No masks! It's St Patrick's Day we don't have to wear masks it's fine Oh yeah Covid doesn't...it's allergic to Guinness? I didn't know that, good to know yeah. A little medical caveat there, Glenn and I are not doctors So Glenn ask me how my week was How was your week Jonnie what did you get upto? Well i got my Covid jab today Did you?! Yeah

08:28 How was it? How bad was it and when does the microchip kick in. I've got this bleeping noise in my head, I don't know... It's like a cross between a submarine and like a cat's bell. No is it that one? What's that what's that no so I got the text through this week so I jumped on it Booked it and I could have booked it for Tuesday but I thought no, I'll wait till the weekend because I didn't know whether there's a bit makes you feel sick. My arm...I feel like I've had quite good dead arm from my daughter. But yeah, it was quite surreal made little video today as we went in It's a bit...you're aware that this

09:15 The Jonnie Jensen Show, Jonnie Jensen, Wrap Up, Piers Morgan, International Women Day, It is a good idea because we're better than ever in the pandemic. And I'm standing there kind of just waiting, Mr Jensen yeah do this thing yeah yeah and then stab it in your arm off you go no sticker

09:51 No sweets. Oh, that's the only reason I was going to do it! Well, I did get a little card saying you've had your first... which is basically your Covid passport. Yeah where's the lollipop? Come on! Bring some lightness to this thing or a sticker surely I love that you probably went in there and before they said right let's get ready to inject some by that stage your trousers are already down your ankles, arse is in the air. I'm backing in with my heart. Let me see if it goes into the arms Mr Jensen. Just an excuse to get my trousers off. But you're feeling all right, yes? It's not kind of wiping you out or anything? No it's feeling good! Feeling it in there. Jab one I'm off and running. And what your second one is coming up in a couple of weeks months? That's like 12 weeks so...

10:45 Yeah, I think mine...I've just snuck into the 40 to 49 bracket. So i'm in the next tronch so apparently i'll be done by the end of next month! My first one anyway, so yeah hopefully that will go quickly. Party in the summer It's going to be great. As soon as it's done I'll be like booking holidays and go into some sort of over 40s mini Ibiza orgy just because we're the only ones with passports! When the Euros are going to be on, let's hope it's like a blazing hot summer. It'll be like the summer of 1996 when the Euros were here in the UK. Ah! See I'm hoping that all this kind of... because after Spanish influenza and obviously World War One and so when Spanish influenza came along there was that was the reason that 20s, the 1920s were so decadent and hedonistic was because everyone just wanted to live and just enjoy and make the most of life now that they were able to actually live it again

11:41 And I'm hoping it's gonna play out and it's going to be a good long summer. Oh man, well I don't know if life can be like that a bit... Referencing the summer of 96! And just what a blast that was. Pre-social media, Chris Evans was just owning the radio there it was flipping dazzling. It's interesting you say 96 though because recently I was having a chat with a mate of mine and we were trying to think back to what was as a country the best year in living memory? The one we thought about was 2012

12:20 Because internationally we were stable, you had like Obama in the White House and everything was calming down and they sorted out Iran. We had yes we had austerity but actually because of the Olympics we were seeing this as this great coming together as a nation and doing some great things it was a coalition government there's all these things that were interesting and new and exciting again and so people pretty much if you Jonnie Jensen, Wrap Up, Piers Morgan, International Women Day Firstly, it was amazing how the only best years were all around sporting events. But secondly there's just age divide and I think it was just because in 96 anyone my age or so we were too young to drink! So there was only so much going out and enjoyment we could have whereas by the time any time after that the millennium whatever we're going our out yeah yet anyone who was 42 or over they were giving it large during year 96 and so that would have been their kind of peak life moment

13:37 It was, I gotta say 1996. So it always happens. You and me are like flipping the lock on the key Glenn we get together at different times you know? But no summer 96 definitely it was the graduation year of uni so it was that sort of zenith, the pinnacle of our three years of utter debauch mayhem and sun shone Chris Evans owned Flippin Everything in the UK. Yeah, was that kind of... TFI was on? Radio 1 in the mornings it's just Maverick Nutter pretty much in the newspaper every day It was just what him and his mates have been up to getting on the Piers during the day And it would build up to Friday and TGI Friday, TFI Friday a TV show

14:30 Where he would just talk about all the fun he'd been having all week with any of the guests that were coming. That's heaven, isn't it? That is the life! I could live that. I could do that. Just magic and then you're at the Euros, The Sunshine, Gaza, Terry Venables, and end of uni so we were just... Probably the best moment was when we beat Holland. Ah, the 4-1. Yeah, so we had a barbecue and we're having a party Stafford Uni event, basically. Which you can imagine... You don't have to know what that means! Just imagine the 90s and a bunch of students giving it large all day long So we all watched the match and it was just wild 4-1 I think the score was It was, it was We lived on Oxford Gardens And opposite was this old people's kind of row of houses

15:25 And they had this massive, beautiful lawn with signs on it that says no anything. Don't even look at the grass! This grass exists for no one but us right? Fair dues, we had respected that for three years. And in the moment when we beat Holland and you know, we piled out onto this lawn about 30 of us and had just the most insane impromptu game of 28 a side basically! Ah good times, good times I could say more but what i will say is full respect to

16:06 Mike Tweed who got bit in the bum by a security dog later that night as we hid in long grass which turned out to not be that long. Dogs are famously unable to use any sense other than sight to find people, so you had a chance! We thought the grass was long and we hit the deck in some kind of combat fashion, but it clearly wasn't long grass. And Mike being slowest got bit in the bum by the dog! That's a thing you never have to be able to outrun a bear, you just have to be able to outrun the slowest person and that sounds like the same sort of thing there. Where is Mike? Man down man down! Mike, we're sorry... Hows the bum?

16:54 So yeah, so that's COVID. So then on Friday I was on the Glenn Lundy Rise and Grind Show right? If you're on Facebook which obviously a good percentage of you are hashtag riseandgrind, Glenn Lundy with a double N in Glenn and this guy is a dude! He's on episode 826 of his 5 30am live show Ouch, I didn't even realise there was a 5.30 in the morning! Yeah so he gets up at 3.30 to prep for it He was on my podcast a couple of years ago... well this podcast, Team Superdad So you can go back and listen to the Glenn Lundy episode And so he said oh come on i'm doing this thing on intentional parenting Come and be the Friday guest

17:43 So he's had something like two million views of the Rise and Grind show. And he's a dude, right? You guys got eight kids! Eight kids! Oh that is... That's greedy! For anyone who's just relieved that the homeschooling adventure is now over his wife chooses to home school so there's a bit of a religious kind of Christian thing going on in The True American Style But the guy is smashing it. He's become buddies with Grant Cardone and all these kind of internet dudes, so I'm in the show and like...I hope everyone loves our little team Superdad intro okay but it's nothing compared to Glenn's beautiful...and then he goes, so when I play the music I'll cut to you and you've got be dancing

18:35 So, of course I'm British bringing...I think you and I bring in a bit of energy to our adventures into our lives. But Glenn's fully pumped! He's like it's Friday! It's errrr! And today we've got the rise and grind! And so he said you gotta be dancing. So I'm like this. Dancing! Made me realise how little energy I bring to the start of each day. Yeah, but that's because you've got to level your energy out over the day. I mean look at that guy when he hits about half past seven eight at night He must be dead on his arse! No, no, I would rather be absolutely whapped out in the morning than ramp up for a big night That's see all the fun things in life happen In the evening and nighttime no one wakes up and that's the best moment of their day And I think that's where the world is going a bit weird and wrong

19:28 Yeah, there's this idea that if you get up early and you're a morning person not a night time person. You're more virtuous! You're better at life. You're winning because you are able to function first thing in the morning. Where did that come from? Where are they going to be at 7, 8 or 9 o clock when your putting the hours in and making things happen?! They go into bed ready for their early morning start... No, no, you've got to tune in whether you are a morning person or a night person. What does it say In the book Peak Performance, great book just finished a couple of weeks ago they talk about night owls and is it morning larks? Yeah. That sounds a bit shit doesn't it? Who wants to be a fucking lark?! A morning lark! What IS a lark!? It's a bird right? Yeah yeah yeah just one of these ones up with the larks you're up first thing in the morning they're up chirping and tweeting away in the bastard morning There's got to be something better that gets up early than a lark

20:24 A cock. Yeah I'm a massive morning cock. Cock-a-doodle-doo! That works, yeah. The first animal up in the morning is the cockerel. Yeah iIm a morning cock okay good hey baby have we met Did I tell you, I'm a massive morning cuck? Here's a funny story. So I'm about 16 now...I must have been a bit older than that because I've got family in Chicago right spent many many some most of my teenage summers in Chicago so I went back to...so second year of uni I spent the summer in Chicago

21:14 So, of course I'm driving in the UK now and naturally like any red blooded stupid British gentleman. I had two car crashes by that time! So i'm at this party with a bunch of my friends from Chicago who at that point are a little bit younger than me but particularly back in the day if you're 17 in America That's a whole world of difference to 17 slash 18 year old English bloke. Yeah I mean in America you can buy a gun and you'll have driven a car for years but you can't buy yourself a lager top! You could have done a drive-by shooting legally, but you can't have a drink for another four years so we're at a party which is actually quite like

22:03 Barbecue and laser tag kind of thing. And we're sitting around, and I start telling a story about this terrible car crash I had right? So i said oh my gosh! I had this terrible car crash about a month ago so the whole room just goes silent and just looks at me like what did you say?! So what you got to do Glenn is you've got to put your ears into America mode right? Again as I say...I had a terrible car crash Ah, Jesus! Yeah. There's some translation there that is. Telling a story about my terrible car crash? Oh man... When you're saying why has the room fallen silent it's like they have a lot of car crashes over in the US and to be fair they have a fair amount of cock crashes as well They thought I was about to suddenly start talking about a nasty bit of knobrock

23:07 But I didn't know, so i just carried on going into yeah it was like a head-on and the whole family and they were upset. And we went to hospital... The ambulance turned up! The police came in! A shocking car crash! So no is that yeah that's my car crash story. Car Crash Story Why am I telling that? America oh yeah Glenn Lundy I'm on the show with all these people and i'm getting bigged up. So then we finish up, oh he drops a massive question on me at the end...I forget what it was but it was like so Jonnie before we go uh what is the meaning of life?

23:49 I go, oh Glenn and your 10 000 live viewers. 42 clearly 42! Yes i could have done that but no because i'm there as Team Superdad representing i've got to say something mind-blowing So that all these people watching come and check in on Team Superdad. They actually do a bloody good job! If you go to the Team Superdad page on Facebook, we've shared the rise and grind from Friday... And then we go over to Clubhouse and I'm live on Clubhouse with him and all the people that have been watching are now coming over and they're asking me questions so i did like Q&A for an hour. Nice!

24:32 Dad coaching bombs on people, getting loads of acknowledgement. It was a good start to the day which led into the Friday night I had a date... A date? Like an actual date with a lady that didn't require inflating? No! I have seen a Blarp doll before, like any self-respecting person who's been on the stag do or long drive as a student. Yes i have seen them but i've never had sex with a blarp doll that i can actually test it out! But you have had a date with a real live flesh and blood person how did it go? What happened? It was brilliant actually we laughed, we chatted for hours she's pretty, she's tall, she's fit, she's funny

25:26 So it was brilliant. But I'm not going to tell you about... She stayed over and but it's just great because she was drinking, right? So we were responsible to be able to relax and enjoy the evening. The funny part of this is that before so we're cooking dinner! What did she do? She goes, I don't eat red meat. So okay right fine so then we're gonna go fish i'm gonna go fish because you can't just do chicken because that's too obvious right? So decide I'm going to do a baked or roast cod loin

26:10 with some chunky mash, like new potato with the skins on mashed up with some garlic butter. Some nice lightly cooked broccoli, so it's quite a bit al dente and some carrots but clearly on a night like that not diced you gotta go baton. Oh classic! You've got to go batons yeah, so carrot batons Then I'm thinking starter, so I gotta go avocado. Good protein she's a PT it's very fit something in the egg and impressive like that and then with a prawn cocktail So but there's something about prawn cocktail which is sort of very 70s kitschy kind of have you ever seen Abigail's Party? No i haven't no. Oh Glenn! You're gonna love this people watching listening Abigail's Party It's a Mike Lee play

27:00 Another drink, Dave. Very dry humour very British like an hour long play but they did a movie of it if you like Gavin and Stacey the mum is Abigail. Bloody funny So I'm thinking, so I was starting to get all of a sudden getting a bit nervous because i got this woman coming around to my house. I'm assuming the house was pristine spotless everything was clean and tidy? I could take this video camera and I could wander you round the showhouse right now! An absolute show house um clearly if that's the way to get a clean house I should have her over more often because

27:53 I can't say that I have loads of them in my life, but more often because A. That might upset her and B it might get me a knock on the door from the constabulary about breaking COVID rules! All about support bubbles and so she's your support bubble? She is definitely in my support bubble So I'm thinking like this is all suddenly a bit weird I'm cooking like a date meal, and then at some point i'm gonna have to open the door and go good evening. Good evening! And then she's going to walk in and there's going to be some kind of hi. So I'm just thinking back to being in our 20s and this is just far too serious, far too grown up, far too sensible

28:39 But I bought laser blue. Did you have good, have you got good china? No didn't even know it does match so it does match but I didn't ever need I've got wine glasses pint glasses and kids tumblers and I knew gin & tonic did never didn't have any gin & tonic appropriate gin gin & tonic glasses tumblers. Balloons or tumblers yeah But that moment of awkwardness kind of passed quite quick. It was all right once she got there and the meal was kind of happening, and the presentation... I cut the avocados in half mixed it with some onion and some tomato mashed it up put it back into the avocado shells prawn cocktail on the side a couple little chunks of lemon for sort of looking at garnish bit of dill sprinkled over the top that's mega! Did you have a playlist as well? did you have a sexy Barry White playlist? No

29:35 I put Centerforce on. Well it's Saturday night, you know? You need some house music! For anyone globally, right? If you like your old house tunes go to 883 Centreforce Radio. It's epic! Sundays in particular very chilled if you want a soulful loving on Sundays but of course you do get some adverts which is a bit poor I did when it got to nine o'clock and it all went a little bit too banging I switched to a playlist on Spotify which favourite podcast on Spotify list so it was great Very well, you put the world to riots. You had lots of good conversation. The conversation flowed as well. You didn't have to kind of pull out any tricks to think there's an awkward silence here. Cue cards! I had a few conversations starters in my back... No i didn't really

30:25 You joke? I've genuinely had to do that. The last woman I was chatting to online, she was so disinterested in anyone but herself that at one stage on one of our videos here is I had to get this pack and they're a brilliant set cards called Socialize & Mingle and they just love to cut... They are literally just conversation starters to say you know what's your favorite this or tell me the time when that you've done that because otherwise I wouldn't have been able to get anything of me over and she just wouldn't have known about me yeah we no longer chat I'm sorry to inform you but you've just

31:05 shown the third red flag and this conversation. Well there were a few flags but A, she was very very attractive and B I think it's been a long time since i've chatted with anyone you know what at the moment i'd put up with someone with more flags than a communist rally I just need a little bit of contact with someone attractive who fancies me You've got to keep this in the game. So when it comes around to some real conversation, you're not... It's like that first person you talk to in the morning. Woe betide if particularly being a dad at home single dad I'm sure you've experienced this as well sometimes the first person you speak

31:46 It's really important and you haven't realised that it is the first person you're speaking to. And you go... In my mind, I was ready for this conversation! In reality it's the first word... I forgot how to do all of the words and orders and clever things like that. I've just closed the other window which has got all my notes in and the eight tabs. Open that back up. So it went well, basically!

32:24 Went well. So, important question... We have a lot of things in common because we know each other from way back or we know that we've got shared friends from way back Oh that's good! That is useful. That all creates a bit of a bond between the two and gives you a few other things to talk about Facebook has just thrown up the most perfect picture I'm just going to share this for pure shits and giggles it's a picture from our uni days of us looking like the Sheveldon in a park. Good flashback to 96 basically! So that's been my week, The Glenn Lundy Show, The Date on Friday Night I've been pushing hard on the Hero Academy had my Covid jab and Tottenham won on Wednesday so the world is good. Yes we did

33:17 Yes, we absolutely did and we're going to be winning again tomorrow. So it's gonna be a good weekend Yeah, my week's been alright but it's just been long and tiring. Work's been manic we've had lots of internal staff changes taking on a couple team members as well they're getting them up to speed and someone else has left so I've had taken all their stuff as well oh here we are there's photo! Sorry i didn't mean to drop that in there... Here we go look at that can you see me? Is that you?! Yep with with my like raving curtains can we go big

33:54 Can you go big on a pitch like this? There's probably a button. Oh bless ya! Yeah, pretty much exactly the same. Sorry I'm going to cut in on your week then. Your week chat... Yeah, go on tell me. So in fact I was talking about you this week to someone because we were talking about Glenn, a dating dad who does the Wrap Up with me and i said yeah so I said uh I think he's too good at his job and he doesn't realize that they keep loading responsibility onto him

34:35 I made a note, I was going to go on after our chat with Glenn. Sorry that we're doing it live on a podcast but yeah are you okay? Are they giving you lots of stability out like oh just could we just give you another team of five people... Oh before you go Glenn could you just take all this out there you go i just wondered if you could just finish this off before the It's been mad, it has been mad and there have been a few late nights and a few weekends. The trouble is at the moment as well some of the stuff I'm covering is horrible because I do feel quite wanky when I'm saying this! Who do I think I am? But I'm having to get involved in operational stuff

35:17 And getting involved in actually doing things and sending statements of work over, and negotiating contract numbers for a particular account. That's all great! That's all well and good but it's not what I'm there for. I'm there for growth and sales and big nice interest in stuff... Good chunky strategic stuff. Yet I'm having to do this because we just haven't got enough staff to cover all the work that we're bringing in It is a very weird time Enjoy it while it's happening because thinking I probably won't have much of a chance to do this in future but god, it's knackering and you know when you've got so many balls are so many different sizes and you're juggling and juggling. And I don't know how many balls are up there at the moment and sometimes I can't even see them when they're on the floor! So it's not sustainable but hopefully it'll only be for next month or two. It's that hockey stick like you get

36:10 Like business execs talking, oh yeah we're in the hockey stick stage. It's like high work high growth before it levels off and you can take the rewards of all your hard work. Yeah and it's good and it won't last but I don't want to be doing this level of stuff forever! Did you fill that form in about the cooking Virtual Date Thing. Did my friend contact you? Cooking Virtual Date Thing She's a journalist and she asked me about it. I've certainly, again this sounds wanky but i have a lot of people contacting me for a lot of things so i always have to follow up immediately because then i forget otherwise! So if it was sent then i did it but i won't have remembered it since then...i hope anyway, i hope i did it because i have to do it immediately You're just waiting for the big breakthrough though? The overnight success that took years to create

37:11 Yeah, talking about that. It was also this week was exactly a year since my Five Guys A Week show aired on Channel 4 and so I was expecting... not expecting there was part of me that thought okay this might take off and you might get a lot of interest. I didn't get one single woman who i thought you know what she's she's an option contact me not one! That is kind of pretty galling So what was the Five Guys A Week thing? I haven't spoken to you about that, it was one of my bigger TV things i've done recently. So actually filmed it way back in end of 2018 and just because I write blog and bits pieces fairly well known in that sector last minute I got a phone call from someone saying I'll borrow you free in like two weeks time for just for a day or a couple of days we don't know exactly what but um we're filming a tv show

38:09 It's not the actual show, this is a pilot. So realistically what they do with pilots and I don't know how much TV work you've done but generally speaking pilots they will film them They'll learn the lessons they'll see what works what doesn't work and then if it works really well they'll commission a proper series so the pilot is just the pilot gets archived away So I thought, why not? You know it's just fun. It'll be good and the concept is five guys literally move into a woman's house her actual house and then it's the kind of mini bachelor style where she gets rid of one person a day you do activities like go to gym or go partying all these...you meet her mum and all this sort of stuff And then one guy gets kicked out every day

38:52 I thought, sorry why not? I didn't realise that all the other guys they are... I won't say fame hungry is bad but they're all people who are on certain lists for you know. I want to be famous and now is this a vehicle that's going to get me famous um that's the sort of thing they were so but whereas little old me just had no idea I was just doing it because if there's even a chance The Woman Chooses Me and We Live Happily Ever After, isn't that a cool story? And worst case scenario someone in the world might see it and think he seems alright I'll drop him a line. So I walked in there and thinking, and my kids are that week so my dad was looking after them. He said Dad can you just look after him for a day or two? So when on the Thursday or whatever it was... Look after him for a day or two! I have absolutely no doubt Dad i'll get kicked out first maybe if I'm lucky second that's my aim is to not be the first one kicked out. Can you look after them? And I walked in there uh and so the first guy got kicked out

39:52 I'll share spoilers because sod it, it's been out there for a year. First guy that was kicked out was a professional surfing instructor from the Canary Islands. Sexy motherfucker! Really cool chilled-out kind of relaxed guy super cool love him so he got kicked out first okay this is good dang can you have another night yeah yeah all right so when are you gonna be home? The second guy to leave was a professional stuntman who's got world records for upside down push-ups, like literally flipping himself up. He is one of the strongest guys ever so really cool! Third guy to leave was a professional singer songwriter from America

40:30 Um, or came over from America. He's British but came over from America again super cool sweet guy dad can you look after him? I can't help it i'm in the final two! Come on all right son just don't yeah whatever um and so then she had to choose between me a single father of four or a millionaire banker with a pilot's license with no kids Guess which one she chose. But yeah, they didn't last more than two dates and weirdly I'm now really good friends with her we get on really well we've stayed in contact and we chat all the time whereas i don't think she's spoken to most of the other guys for a very long time who were probably not bad space. Yeah weirdly Channel 4 loved it so much that uh they not only did they commission two series off the back of it they also put us up there... She kept the pilot and ran it as the very first episode

41:24 So yeah, we were the... so when they were selling it they've sold the concept in multiple countries all around Europe and very weirdly I saw loads of pictures they took it to Cairns. And so I saw these pictures of my face on the billboards at Cairns TV festival It's really... well yeah, just there was all six of us in this oversized bed and all the promotional shit that was going on. And yes so my photos have been up in cans and in magazines and it was really weird seeing myself on Channel 4 and even a GIF of me like on whatever Twitter or whatever there are GIFS of me you can use. It is very very surreal. That's... Or even now! Is it an NRT? NFT? Near Field Transmitter

42:12 No, it's all been the big thing this week. Everyone is making these unique digital bits of artwork they're called... Oh right okay I don't know! Is this the thing that... not Kasabian? What are those bands did and it's like a cryptocurrency? Yes I've heard of them, they're weird. I still can't quite wrap my head around the concept. No, I can't but it did just pop in there that could have been perfect because iIve been doing research ahead of today about the Harry and Meghan interview... I've missed all that! So I deliberately didn't watch it because one of these things where I'm no anti-royalist, I'm not Republican but equally I don't really care too much. It doesn't affect me on a day to day basis That's what I thought

43:03 And then I kept getting, finding myself backed into situations where i kind of needed an opinion and I didn't want to watch it because I didn't want to get pushed. I didn't want to get like just been activated by it you know? Because I don't really know what I think! I don't know why... I'm not pure enough to think bad. I like The Royal Family mainly because What else we're going to have? I don't really want a president. We get a lot, you know it's like we're Britain but kind of like just roll with it. It's a brand isn't it yeah so uh... So I'm okay with that then we've got then you got all the Megan and Harry stuff going on and it just seems to me like there's a lot of the race card gets played around in them

43:54 As you know, it's easy as a white guy to say like really? You're still banging on that? Not like are you still banging on that but like... ...you married this guy and your come being part of the family and yet this.. ...you keep bringing this up! Like is that really got anything to do with it? And so I kind of had opinions but they weren't really that I'm not going to watch that media flipping shit fest. It's just like $100 million off Netflix and now they're on TV and 17 million people watched it live! The guy, one of the American programs I was watching when i was doing like my little bit of you know half hour research he said 17.17 million watched the live broadcast well it wasn't a live broadcast but watch the aired show in America

44:50 I mean more people watched the last black frame of the 1980-odd World Snooker Finals. True, but we only had four channels back then and there were this... But not 17 million in the UK, 17 million in the US slash world. So then I have watched it and, and it's just bonkers. So what do you want to say? Right because this is such a big subject right when you watch it well tell you what I did too which was really interesting especially British people should do this because I was at my aunt today in my aunts house she gets the Daily Mail right she knows its crap good on her but she does know its crap but she says I've read for whatever 30 years I enjoy reading it but I am aware that it's a load of cod swap

45:33 So I'm sat there reading the British media version of how dare they have this interview. Then, I watch a lot of the American commentary about the interview but also commentating on how the British media is reacting and in the middle I watched the actual interview and I think everyone's got to take this rounded approach and it just strikes me most of all that Harry is kind He's sort of reacting against what happened to his mum. He is reacting against the establishment that he has been brought up in, they talk about being trapped and like I can't...I couldn't do what I want to do! They wouldn't let me. I had to leave or stay but I couldn't stay and do what I wanted to so got to leave so I could do what I wanted to do And now I'm getting cane for leaving by the British press who are actually then blaming my wife

46:29 for why I'm leaving. They start bringing up these different examples of things they said about Kate, things the media have said about Kate and then things that media have said about Megan and it's weird you kind of can't deny it It's a combination of racism and xenophobia because I think her being black plays into it but also her being American plays into it as well. She is an independent minded, independently made woman

47:05 They don't like that. Because I read a little piece which was basically saying the royal family is all about subsuming oneself within an institution, you're there for the institution it doesn't like individual glory as such whereas they're millennials. For millennials is about individuality and making something of oneself whether you are doing good for the world or doing good yourself its about yourself rather than necessarily an institution And so those two things were never going to sit perfectly well. William has taken the institutional route and that's not a detriment to him, he decided that he is going to be part of the institution he was born into and Harry decided he doesn't want to be part of that institution. The trouble is like you're saying, he has to leave

47:54 I've left and basically saying, I don't want the Royal titles. So I'm not going to do any of the work. I don't need the official stuff because that's not who I want to be. And then we're in the UK saying you all in that case, we're going to take away your Royal titles and you can't be who used to be. You know what? Well, I don't want that so why are you pretending that I should want that when I don't want that it's such this weird projection of values and I just doesn't sit comfortably Yeah, and it's so much bigger a subject than the British media would have it be. And I just...I've said before about cutting out media, cutting out news – I did it after my breakdown around the divorce for my own sanity and wellbeing

48:41 Imagine if everyone did. I mean, just knock Murdoch on his head and just... Yeah! And the world would not stop turning everything would still go on and people will be a lot bloody happier there's no two ways about it yeah and Piers Morgan did you see? So I don't like Piers Morgan. A, he's an Arsenal fan right and that's a bit of banter right? I've been...I'm not one of those football fans who hates the opposition. I love the banter that's involved with rivalries but so he steps up and says in fair innocence i think he says if you had someone in your family got married to a black person I think it's quite a normal question to ask oh if you have a baby how black is it going to be

49:33 Bit like if it was a mixed race job. He sat on national TV saying that, right? So I'm thinking oh that's the kind of stupid thing I'd say! But he's Piers Morgan, right? He's on National TV. And then he says no I'm right and it probably is a stupid question that someone who was 60 would ask. And it's all about context, and it's all about individuals. And there are certainly older generations that... It doesn't excuse it but it certainly explains it they've just grown up with different societal norms and yes a lot of them are changing and growing and evolving but they lived in a different world back then where that sort of language was absolutely fine But I've got mixed race cousins my family have married people who are black and I've got cousins who are mixed race

50:32 Yeah, that's the sort of thing that I've heard people ask when they've all been having kids and when they're married either or had children with people who are white or black. And skin tone has been kind of mentioned in a... not in an I hope it is this or I hope isn't that but in a oh wonder what would be? I wonder what their going to look like because you do wonder about that. No, it's always done as an acceptable question. Just like if I had kids with someone who had flaming red hair you'd be like are they gonna have... Is she going to be a redhead or is she gonna have darker brown hair and a ginger beard? You know their questions but it's all about context and we don't know the context. It's easy for us to see that sort of language in our heads

51:25 like a racist older person claim, you can think about it as a racist older person saying I hope it isn't black or it could be just a curious person saying I'm curious about how they're going to look because I'm always curious about how babies are going to turn out whenever someone's pregnant. But he gets played out under the microscope and then everyone is outraged and shocked and Oprah's like flipping I'm coughing a bollock up as she's like, oh, can't believe you've just said that. Oprah was so funny! I think it was lost on everyone but Oprah sat there like the Queen. She was the queen of talk shows and she was sat there... I mean it's good. I am glad I watched it. I got a different perspective on it and do you know what? I take most from it. I take most that Harry is a good guy basically

52:17 He is, yeah without a doubt. I've never met him but he's one of those people who just... he's of his generation. He's modern, he's flawed, he accepts the flaws and constantly is trying to make better. And he has done things that other roles could have done but didn't have the balls to or didn't have the ability to do. The Invictus Games All the work he does of his own accord, it's huge. It's really important and he comes across as a top guy. Yeah definitely! So Dad Of The Week this week... Oh have you got a jingle? No! I need to label those buttons. Harry Windsor, good dad of the week there we go

53:11 Big Brother, we're running out of time right but just briefly Hot in the 90s our favourite. The feature we get the most reference to, most comments back so Davina McCall got herself into some hot water this week which again was going off the back of one serious subject to another and probably won't speak too much about what went on but she was the host of The Big Brother in the UK And I have a even further back reference, pop reference to Davina McCall

54:00 My brother was spotted in Harrods when he was about 14 by a model person from Model One, Models One? Something like one of the big London modeling agencies. So Davina McCall... So he got the looks genes in your family then? Got it okay. Yes, oh yes he got lots! Basically I was like the test dummy, you know. Like all the things that went wrong have happened to me and he just... You were the pilot? Yes! The pilot, the crash test dummy so Davina McCall she's just she was hot back in the day and she still stunning. She is still smoking and she's one of those women who are there's a difference between being hot and being attractive and she is incredibly attractive not only physically

54:49 But the sense of humour, her attitude, her mindset. Everything about her is as hot and attractive as I can imagine a woman being. Yeah I'm down with that. And she's a load of fun as well, she looks like a lot of fun! She's into health and fitness and food and nutrition these days... But all in a positive way you know? She's always in a very positive supportive mindset. She'll challenge people when they need challenging, she'll be serious when needs to be serious but most of the time her default is let's be fun and enjoy life Yeah yeah and she's not afraid to say what needs to be said either

55:30 We in the UK, oh here's a good one I'll have to look this one out. Yeah! Oh she's got some tattoos there wonder where she gonna get that tattoo fixed? So for people on the podcast Davina is wearing a black and white striped bikini quite low cut on the briefs and there looks to be some kind of octopus tentacles appearing from out of the front of the bikini bottoms there. So this week sadly a woman got murdered in the UK this week And there's been quite a lot of media commentary, women's groups, feminist groups coming forward and talking about women and our daughters need to be protected from men. And it's just a blanket men. It's not like bad men mean men sexist men is just like we need to be protected from men. And Davina came out and said on Twitter it's not about

56:29 Men, here we go. Female abduction and murder is extremely rare yes we should all be vigilant when out alone but this level of fear-mongering isn't healthy and men's mental health is an issue as well calling all men out as dangerous is bad for our sons brothers and partners." And I just thought that was a flippin' awesome thing for her to say and no surprise she's been absolutely eroded by women's groups and feminist groups I think two things have been conflated as far as i can see and with all of the underlying caveats, what happened to Sarah Everton was horrific and should never happen to anyone. It's atrocious and our thoughts go out to her family and everyone involved in that is horrendous

57:19 But what's happened, from my perspective feels like it has happened is two things have been conflated. There is violence by psychopaths and men generally speaking it is men violence which leads to attacks and deaths against women has been conflated with sexual assault and sexual issues And there has been a stat going around about 97% of women aged 18 I can't remember what the upper tier was but probably no upper tier Jonnie Jensen, Unwanted Sexual Advances or Assault of Some Kind.

58:00 That is as bad as the rape and murder of women by men. And the two things have been kind of made into one issue, so it... Women are going out and rightly saying they shouldn't have to- They don't know that it's not all men but they don't know which many is So their wary over men and that Is sad and terrible Things need to change and the things they are changing, they are getting better without them being good. That for me is a real distinction but Men are more aware in general, not all men are more aware and there are always going to be... sadly we're human and there are always going to be scumbags and rapists and thieves and murderers. And so on. The challenge is that we need to find better way meant we need to get as many calling that out but that being said language to me is really important

59:00 And the language has been going around, has implied not that all men definitely do but that all men could be. That's just not true and It makes men feel defensive about these things. And when you feel defensive about something, say it's not me! It's not like that your natural instinct is to say it's not me therefore and there's no one I know. You kind of go into that defensive mode and stops you from thinking I know it's not me and I know it's not people I've known but when could have been better about that? When one my mates said something that I could have maybe called out... It stops you from doing that because you'll feel attacked. When people will feel attacked

59:40 They go into defensive mode and so it's a tricky one because I don't think it is intended to be attacking all men, but as a man that is how it feels. Yeah and the important thing about that is that then some of those men need to hear that message then stop listening Because they're listening for something different or hearing something different And then they're missing the message, which is... I don't know what the message is. This is the appropriate way to ask a woman out or this is the appropriate way to say are we going to go back to my place and have sex? So like just have it be because surely women at certain appropriate time want to be asked that question

1:00:23 It's a really tricky balance because, and again this is not all women but generally speaking all the women I've engaged with they want the man to take the lead in things. They want the man to pursue and hunt as such And that is true. That's a fact for all the women I've ever engaged with, not saying it's only women with all the caveats applied but generally speaking society says men take the lead and this is a bad word to use but there are aggressors in that they're taking the lead And we're also now, or we shouldn't have to be told this but being told don't do this or don't react to that. For some it can be quite confusing I mean it's also one of those weird ones where to most of us is bloody obvious you know just like it's a standard thing if a woman walks up to you wearing a bikini that doesn't mean you can grab her ass

1:01:26 But the message she's giving is a sexual image and if she's acting in a certain way then that can lead a man to think a certain path. And that's, it's a tricky one and it's difficult because there are so many different contexts around but It is difficult to really be able to say one blanket you should or shouldn't do this when nuance is everything. Yeah yeah well my daughter we go swimming alot So I specifically seek out and buy her she wants a two piece bikini I don't even like calling it a bikini because she's too young for that But you can buy but you have hunt high and low for them A sports

1:02:09 bikini, like sports swimsuit two-piece sports swimsuit. But the swimsuits you see in most shops are like quite sexual. Yeah yeah there's a love island swimsuits. They're five year old and they're frilly you know cut high up on the bum and I'm like there's no way i'm letting my daughter wear that Because as a bloke, I know what I get triggered by. And I don't mean I get triggered by seeing little girls in bikinis but you do when you see an attractive woman in a bikini it triggers you like wow look at her and so then you know that there are weirdos out there and say well I definitely don't want anyone having that thought about

1:02:53 my daughter because she's wearing that bikini, so I'll buy her an appropriate one. So it's almost like a fine line between the human instincts and the animal nature of it and then also educating men on a general level... And it's a bit like The Black Lives Matter thing It's like we've got to get these two groups of people talking We've gotta get people understanding each other better What is the question you want to be asked? How do you want to be approached? What is the right way There have been some good things coming out of this. Some men on Twitter have been asking, well how can I be a better ally? What can i do and there's things that I've always done as a matter of course because I've been hypersensitive to this sort of thing like if you're... at day or night it doesn't... nighttime is exacerbated but actually if you're walking down the street and you can see a lone woman in front of you even a pair of women walking in front of

1:03:46 Well, cross over and walk on the other side of the street because they're going to know that a man's... They don't know you're not doing anything wrong. They don't think you're just listening to music or whatever. They don't know you so they've got no reason to say this. They are going to fear the worst because that's how women are forced to feel by society. So cross over to the other side of the road if you can make a phone call to your mum it is not doing is a little thing you can do But it makes a real difference to people. And small things like that, that is the opportunity for us to learn about this and remind men call your mates out if you're sitting around and they're leering over some woman or making rude comments to the waitress or whatever just say mate that's not cool is it?

1:04:34 And it's not... Imagine having a sister like that, yeah call them out on it exactly. Yeah but and part of me is I get a little bit frustrated at the what if that was your sister? What if that was your mum? It shouldn't matter because you're just a decent human being! That sort of behaviour isn't acceptable So you should be better than that. But the other part, the kind of flip side to me is yes of course women should be allowed to wear what they want without fear of assault or rape or murder anything like that My kids should be able to wear a Spurs shirt and walk into any pub on North London Derby Day around the Emirates, have a beer with his mates and laugh and joke.

1:05:29 He should be able to, but in reality we don't live in this utopian society. If he did that he would probably get his head kicked it so I have to train him not to do those things. I have to train my kids that if it's late at night don't walk down a dark alley they shouldn't have to think that way but we live in the real world so it's about minimizing risk now frustratingly women have to minimize more risks than men because that's the way things are and it shouldn't But we live in a real world and while we do, we just have to keep training our kids appropriately. Yeah and keep the dialogue open enough about it yeah well I was just gonna when i did The Hot In The 90s and I was going to do Big Brother I went into the article on on the Daily Star right no surprise the Daily Star right but the top 10 sexiest big brother household dates

1:06:20 The pictures of the women who are on it are highly, highly sexual. Boobs, bikinis and yeah on the one hand that should be fine but on the other hand is what's They're being dressed like that to get attention. It's a twisted subject and that's why both sides need to be in the conversation, but I think good on Davina for standing up for that conversation basically. Yeah i think just like everything else she's entitled to her opinion and she's saying something that she truly believes from her perspective I can agree, you can say that we should be careful about the language used to describe the perpetrators of this violence. And that is true at the same time as men need to be better. Both of those things can be true it's not an either or situation. I hate the partisan politics if your not saying exactly this thing

1:07:23 You're wrong. And I just, I can't stand that. Yeah better people, better world! Well the future's ours to create and it...and um and that's where all these conversations need to go is what would the ultimate future look like? Right let's start making it. Let's start making that. Yeah well that's the future but one thing that I'm sad we've lost from the past is a certain befuddled commentator that lit up my life. Absolutely Tell us, how long have you been an F1 fan Glen? Well I've been an F1 fan since i was a kid. Back in the days when it was on terrestrial TV and for those who didn't know my youngest son is called Jensen after Jensen Button not after you Jonnie sadly but yeah he's...I love the sport and it is a sport

1:08:15 It's incredible and I've loved it since i was a kid. And as I was growing up, the voice of F1 without you know... You get certain voices associated with certain sports and so you hear that voice and that doesn't matter what they're saying, it takes you into that sport and the voice of F1 is now and will forever be The Great Murray Walker He is just, he had this... he was a.. he wasn't. He didn't ever try and be the expert. He never tried to be this slick media trained personality. He was just genuinely a fan! A fan who loved F1 so much and felt privileged to be part of that and to be able to share his enthusiasm with the world. And I think he's inspired a generation not only of F1 fans but drivers and engineers as well

1:09:06 And commentators in other sports as well to be that alive, to be that oh he's off! I loved it when they called him Murray-isms where he used to just say something and it sounded so ridiculous but as you said it was fine. It was like this is an interesting circuit because inclines are not just up but down as well And the lead car is absolutely unique except for the one behind it which is identical. So you just make these sayings and these phrases and these things that would just like stand out, unless I'm very much mistaken... Oh! I am very much mistaken!!

1:09:48 I'm Beyond one of those true individuals who was as loved off the radio or off the screen, as much as he was on it. And just for people that don't know like he's an old guy died today 97 years old so full respect to Murray Walker. Lost... be like a friend! To a lot of people they feel like I lost a friend today yeah well Glenn we'll do tattoo fixes next week