They Think It's All Over - The Wrap Up #34

00:00 We're live. Welcome. It's Friday. Good Friday. Feels like a Saturday because that's what was about the day off. We're with the wrap-up. You're with the wrap-up. I'm on the wrap-up. A dating dad will be joining us in just a second. But we are celebrating the week that was all the highs, the lows, the fun bits, and the crap bits. And we are so glad to have you join us. Roll theme. Welcome to Team Super Dad. Real dads creating their best lives ever. More time, more money, more fun. You are not alone. You're on Team Super Dad. Yo, Glenn, good to see you.

00:39 It's good to be seen and making sure that I'm still alive and not kind of locked away in some sort of cave waiting to rise after three days. These things do happen this time of year, apparently. But anyway, welcome to the wrap-up. You are here with myself, Johnny Jensen, Team Super Dad crew, friends, family, members all around the world. And joining us for the wrap-up, our asting guest, Mr. Glenn, a dating dad, famous on Twitter for upsetting all kinds of people. How I roll, or rather, that's how I tweak. So for those people that have joined us before, bloody good to have you back here.

01:20 As you can see from Glenn's scenery, well, the very fact I'm mentioning you can see. Some of you will be listening to this on the podcast. It's good to have you. Please review, subscribe, share, get our numbers up across the world. We do have listeners across the world, which is great. 46% of our listeners are from America, which is fabulous. Can you do an American accent, Johnny? Yeah, I totally can, man. A lot of my family are from Chicago. So I think I probably have a Chicago twang to my accent. And having spent quite a lot of time there in my life, it kind of comes quite easy, you know. I absolutely know that every one of our American listeners is listening to that thinking, what the fuck was that?

02:02 Well, the thing is, I know that that will be quite bad because, to be fair, if you say to the average American person, do an English accent, they go, they basically pull out a Mary Poppins type knees up a brown. Mary Proving you. Pretty much, yeah. But no, I think I can hold my own in a bit of American accent. You can imagine when you're in America, when you're growing up as a teenager, one of the things generally is like, do you have McDonald's in England? And they say, yes, we do have McDonald's. And then they say, can you do an American accent? And I say, well, I'll give it a go. I'll give it a go. But also, you know, there's people watching, Glenn.

02:47 That's people watching because we are live across YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, even LinkedIn. We are flipping, bringing the tone down across LinkedIn. But you know what? Some people that do business also do fun as well. So if you're watching on LinkedIn, bloody good to see you. One thing I keep forgetting is that we can see the comments coming in live. And not that we get many, but sometimes I just ignore them completely, which there's nothing worse than being ignored. When I was giving my new girlfriend, she's officially reached girlfriend status now. Have you had the you've hit the G spot? You've had the chat.

03:29 Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, pretty much. Whoa, whoa, no. Whoa, whoa, sweet child of mine. Have you had the sort of school playground? Will you be my girlfriend? And can I be your boyfriend? Sort of chatty chat. I didn't come out in that kind of language, but I did. I said, I'll refer. I said, I am referring to you as my girlfriend. Is that okay? That's fine. And did she actually give you an answer to that question? Oh, Glenn. Good one. I mean, I'm not throwing Spanish in words. Oh, no. I'm certain it's going right. But to be honest, no answer is an answer.

04:14 That's fine. But did she say, yeah, but? No, no, it was no, no, yeah, but. Okay. She didn't do it. You don't have to go into like intimate details here. I'm just doing the whole scene. I was like flipping doing a forensic on it. I was doing, I was doing like little black and white sketches. And then she said, and then I said. No, I think she's, I think she's cool with that. Surely after eight dates and two sleepovers, you're in the G zone. No. No, no, mate. No, no, no. It's so, so dependent. So with one woman I've seen this time last year, actually, I knew after the first night, that's it.

04:58 She was the one. one, and she, I would be referring to her in my head as my girlfriend, regardless whether we'd had the chat or not. Someone I seen the year before, I'd seen for eight months. We never had the chat, and neither of us referred to each other in that way, shape, or form in the slightest. That was after eight months. Well, okay, well, here's the thing: she's meeting the kids tomorrow. So, uh, oh, that's a big, I'm not saying a bad, that's an amazing step, that's a great stage to have to have got to. That's incredible. How are you feeling? Shitting yourself, uh, no. And um, and the thing is, here's

05:41 a conversation was had with the ex this week about it, right? And and uh, uh, you know, and I tried to empathize and relate and say, like, I'd be nervous if if you know, if if I mean, in the story from my life, is some people, you know, extended network of people, right? Um, a stepdad in our, you know, you know, ended up being found out for abusing his stepchildren, right? And that was pretty close, close enough to me to, as well as all the madness that went on in my own family and teenage sort of upbringing to for that to come up, but like boom, like, oh, wow, that bloke that was always around, yeah, turned out he's a paedophile.

06:23 Yeah, okay, great. Um, so, and then on top of that, although not quite as severe, I have the very vivid experience of my dad taking us to a burger restaurant in Chatham, which is Chatham, Kent, right? And uh, us thinking we're going for a burger. Uh, this was whilst he was separated from my stepmum. And when we got there, he goes, Oh, this is Sue, not her actual name, uh, this is Sue, me and my brother. I was literally about, I must have been maybe 13, probably 12. And I remember thinking, What the fuck? I remember thinking, Dad, this is bonkers.

07:03 Like, like, you've done some bad shit in your time, but this is weird. Okay, like, this is weird. You broke up from our stepmum about three weeks ago, and we're in a burger bar meeting, Sue. Like, this is so I can empathize with the, with, with the, with, you know, with, with the ex asking questions, and, and so, I thought, I thought in providing her information, that was going to uh satisfy things, but, but, but no, but you know, I guess few exes are happy when you mention that you've got a girlfriend or boyfriend. Uh, so, so, yeah, it's, it's, uh, how am I feeling? I'm feeling, I'm feeling, I'm feeling very, I'm feeling very, very excited about it. My kids are more interested.

07:45 In fact, Rosie, in particular, is more interested in finding out, have you got a girlfriend? Have you got a girlfriend? Is she who is she? What is she? So, she's asking me questions today. What's her favourite colour? What does she like eating? Where did she last on holiday? Do you know the answers to these? I don't know. I think I did say, like, we're progressing quite nicely, but at date seven, I'm not sure I'm going to know those questions. Yeah. Although, Major Clanger turns out it's her birthday in two weeks' time. Well, that's that's plenty of time. That's amazing. I know, but I remember, I remember, I forget what soap opera sit card. It wasn't the soap opera, that's for sure. Um, uh, the sitcom, but it was, it was like, it was like the um, the Goldbergs or the middle or something like all the modern family, right?

08:27 They were going, you don't get a girlfriend just before I learned. Yeah, oh no, yeah, the dilemma isn't that you've missed it, the dilemma is, what do you do? Because you can't go over now, you're in a good position here because you've you've semi-had the chat and it is girlfriend territory, in which case you can treat it like a good girlfriend-y sort of thing. You know, I don't know, I'm thinking jewellery, spa days, roses, and uh, restaurants, and uh, concert tickets or something she like, a limited edition vinyl of a band. You can go to town with it, but if you hadn't had the chat, then you've got the problem because then that feels like, am I forcing the chat? Am I forcing this or not? I know. Well, there's a guy, one of the Team Super Dad community, right?

09:11 If you listen to the Team Superdad podcast, you may or may not know there is a group over on Facebook. We are a community of motivated modern dads creating the life we desire, not the life we feel stuck in. And if that sounds like something you want to be part of, then come on over to, in fact, if you go to teamsuperdad.com forward slash network, you can just join through that. And it's a free group, and we'll be absolutely happy to have you. One of the dads in there, someone I actually know, he's taken a couple of his like relatively short-time girlfriends to Rome for the weekend, you know? So he's setting the bar. Yeah, that's definitely set in the bar. Yeah, but yeah, so you don't have to tell us now, but have you got an idea for what?

09:54 you want to do? Because for me, when I was seeing, so she, I know, she dropped a message just on Twitter or something saying about how she collected vintage, what they call little makeup mirror case things, you know, powder mirror things. Collected? How many? I don't know. I've never found out. But for me, as soon as she'd mentioned something like that, which just in passing once, that gave me an instant right as your first gift is a little, and you can, they're not stupid money, but it's thoughtful more than anything. So has she dropped any hints about little things that show your thoughtful side rather than the fact that you're a multi-millionaire?

10:38 Yeah, so she's just had her garden done. Okay. Excuse me, just for it. I'm just going to finger myself. Okay, right, yeah. Oh, yeah. What are you drinking there, Greg? What are you drinking tonight? What you got? What you got on the go there? Dead Man's Fingers Spiced Rum. I'm not affiliated with these in any way, shape, or form, but it's one of my favorite, favourite spiced rums available on Amazon at that moment for the cheapest price it has been forever. So I recommend jumping onto Amazon, getting some Dead Man Fingers inside you. So a spiced rum is what? So we're talking like a dark rum with a bit of a kick.

11:19 Yeah, it's almost sweet. So you've got the white rums, you know, I'm thinking the Malibu's and stuff like that, which are clear rums. Then you've got your dark rums, which are really rich and chocolatey. And a spiced rum, it's got the flavour of the rum, but it's also got a sweetness to it. And so this one, it's spiced in a way that almost brings out caramel notes. It's just, ah, it's heavenly. Dead man's fingers as well, they do a bunch of, I don't know, pineapple or mango or bright neon bottles and so on.

11:59 That when you mix them with lemonade, they taste like alcohols of the gods. Okay, perfect. You know, when we do meet up for the first time, we must make sure that we don't have the kids, right? Because actually, it turns out our weekends are in sync. So they are. Oh, they are. So we're not so because clearly we're going to get absolutely rat-ars. You know, that episode of Men Behaving Badly where they're doing the in the park. No, I've just got a little bit of red tonight, a bit of bordeaux. I know it's quite early, but it's Bank Holiday weekend. In the true timely honour of kind of being in our 20s, a bank holiday weekend would just be an absolute mayhem for four days.

12:42 Yeah, I've been drinking whilst doing the ironing. Do you iron your kids' clothes? School uniform, definitely. Probably not much else, to be fair. No, nothing else. School uniform, definitely. Yeah, I get ripped the shit out of online when I have rummaged. I'm iron. Oh, no, you should not just take it out of tumble dryer and fold it up. Well, fuck you, Karen. I put it in the tumble dryer and then I'm working and then I forget about it for a day and then it's already mucked up and crumpled up. I can't let them wear crumpled up clothes. They've got to take pride in themselves. Yeah. I mean, I hang. Oh, we've got a flipping.

13:25 Look at this. We have got a comment. Oh, bless her. We'll come back to you in a second, Annie. That's lovely. Oh, on LinkedIn. Just as I mentioned, we've been bringing the tone down on LinkedIn. Ironing. Yeah, no, I love ironing. My aunt taught me to iron perfectly. No disrespect to the women I've spent time with in my life. But on the odd occasion they did iron anything for me, it was awful. So I've always just ironed, ironed, you know, I'll pretty much iron a shirt, you know. And so if I'm going out, I'll iron a t-shirt. Oh, you have going-out t-shirts.

14:11 Definitely. Yeah. Well, no, there's different levels of out, isn't there? Obviously, you know, we've got out. That's just when you're popping up. Yeah, I don't know. If I'm popping out, I'm not going to iron a t-shirt or even just out. I'm definitely ironing a t-shirt. Good man. Sorry, just to rewind a little bit. Presents. Presents for the girlfriend. What I was about to do, yeah, totally. So she just had a garden done. If you're listening, turn off now. But she mentioned, so she's going to have a bar in the corner, right? So she's going to get all fairy light. So she just alluded to the tea. Yeah, yeah, Defo, yeah. want to get a sign that says bar. So I'm trying to look for a light up sign that says bar on it.

14:56 I'll get adverts from them on Facebook all the bloody time. Literally, just while we're talking, is your phone near? My phone's right here. Yeah, give me, give me. Just keep talking about light up for bars in the garden. I want you next week. I want you to tell me how soon it is after this conversation that you start getting adverts for bar lights. And if it takes too long, whatever word we missed. But yeah, for me, presents, especially the first ones, it's never, ever, ever about, let me show off how much money I've got.

15:39 It's never about that. It's always best presents are always, in my opinion, the ones which are thoughtful, which say, you know what, I've listened to one thing you've said and I've learned something about you that's important to you. Check this out. She's got this funky toothpaste, right? Which sounds a little bit, but it is that this girly unicorn toothpaste, right? And I noticed the other day it was like fully, fully running out. So I was like, as a little additional present, just slip that in. When she stayed over, her toothbrush was so I put a new head on her toothbrush. Just little things. I was just trying to just start to have her feel supported and appreciated.

16:19 It's saying care. It's saying, I notice these things about you. I notice because I'm paying attention because I want to know you. And I want you to know that I'm interested in you individually, not just your boobs. Yeah. And just in case anyone thinks this is an ironic conversation with two single blokes talking about how great they are as partners. I'm a fucking amazing partner. I just haven't found the right person to appreciate that yet. That's exactly it. I just picked someone who didn't appreciate all the cool things I want to do for her. But it's actually kind of does. So that's pretty cool. So yeah, so there's a few things. There's a few things. A few things I'm lying.

16:59 I like considerate gifts. I noticed she has got a different, she needs, she's got an Alexa in one room, but not in the lounge. So the music's on from a different room. So I was going to get her an Alexa for the lounge. But I kind of didn't press the buy button because that just felt a bit too impersonal. Yeah, but that's for me. That's almost a stocking filler present. It's a good present to get because it's a good thing to get, but it's not going to be something which is going to be memorable enough. Oh my God, he got me an Alexa. It's useful, but it doesn't show any kind of like thoughtfulness. Well, it does, but not again, it's thoughtful because it is because you're saying I'm not just going to buy you an Alexa because you know what?

17:40 Everyone needs an Alexa and Alexa's call. You're saying you know that she would like music or an Alexa in another room for this reason, whatever that reason is. And so that is showing some thought. I think that's quite a nice thing to do. And you can get, I've got, so what I did is I realized the Alexas, they're wonderful. I'm a big fan of them. But I mean, on the little dots and so on, the sound quality is not all that. So almost all of the Alexas in my house are hooked up to other speakers in some way, shape, or form. And so you only need a little Alexa dot, Echo Dot, or whatever. And then you can just have proper big speakers below it. And it sounds awesome. And you can hook them up on networks and so on.

18:21 I could do that actually. I've got to Apple did this thing that Apple made this Apple speaker dock with both. Oh, that sounds sexy. Back in the early days of the iPod. And we went to a barbecue camping weekend once, and Nigel, that is his real name, turned up with this thing, right? And I was like, we're in a field. Like, what the hell is like, as if that's going to do. Anyway, turns it on. Nigel's a bit of a DJ. He's an awesome sound producer, works on all sorts of TV adverts and records and stuff. So he turns this thing on. Bose are expensive, but they know what they're doing.

19:08 So yeah, I've got two of them. Not because I'm flipping awesome, but they've stopped making them. And if you use eBay effectively, you just wait until one comes up at the right price. I still paid about 80 quid each for them. Yeah. So it's not bad, though. Yeah, I mean, that sounds like a nice gift because it's thoughtful. Yeah, so I could plug in a couple of echo dots and have it always in the. Oh, I like the sound of that. Yeah, good, good, good. And like I said, I like it. I like it. I like being able to move from room to room and it's all synced. It's all playing at the same pace all at the same time. And it just sounds rich and good and luxurious. How anal are you about that, though? Have you got this? Have you got the delays set? So when you

19:50 it has to be to the millisecond, it can't you can't have any jarring. So I have to. So I've got the echo in my living room is hooked up to my five put once around sound. So it can it can connect via Bluetooth, but when it's via Bluetooth, there is a tiny delay. So when I've got it going in the kitchen and it's running, and then I come in the liver, there's a just a tiny neat bit and it just doesn't sync. And so I have to run it through the auxiliary cables. I had to hardwire it because the Bluetooth isn't good enough. On the Google devices, you can offset the time for that. You don't get that on the Amazons. It's really, that's one of the annoying things. Well, I've got both.

20:31 Oh, check you out, Mr. Someone's earning. No, I decided I was going to buy both. The sidebot was best and then get rid of the ones that was not as good. Would you prefer? I've always preferred the Google and I don't know what Google are doing, but they're doing stuff to their Google home and it's just not as good as it was. Oh, okay. And Alexa, the little things like Alexa, when you want to put your Bluetooth on, so that if you turn on Spotify, the devices just come up for Alexa. Yeah. Whereas Google, I have to say, turn on Bluetooth, and then it will pair with my phone automatically.

21:09 So someone could say, well, that's really easily. You just say pair with Bluetooth and it just comes up. Other people might say, just click the button and pick the room that you're in. So, Alexa, you can ask for a web page. Brilliant. Google, bizarrely, you can't bring up a web page. What do you mean, bring up a web page? Are you talking about the ones with screens? No, I've got a screen. I've got different ones with screens. So obviously, Google's. I'll tell you what, the answer is they're as good as each other. And so there is no Amazon's better at you've got your audible things on there. And up until recently, it was winning because it had Netflix and Amazon Prime. Google has

21:53 YouTube as a default app and it has now has Netflix. So it's kind of you can on the screen on the ones with the screens, of course. Yeah, yeah. Oh, annoyingly, for someone who's into his like 80s house and 90s house and 80s soul. If I say to Alexa, play Centaforce Radio, it will play it. If I say to Google, play Centaforce Radio, it won't. So just enough to drive. Yeah, that is annoying. But it's details like that that matter. It is. It truly is. I mean, this is not 2016 after all. Come on. No, I know. Well, I was beeping stuff today. I beeped an ice cream today, which I'm not, it's not the first time I've beeped an ice cream, but you know, it's like the woman pulls up in the ice cream van.

22:40 I mean, here's a good question, mate. How much do ice cream van people make? How much is an ice cream van a year? How much does how many ice creams do you have to sell to make decent money? And if you've got an ice cream van, are you comfortably off? I always think of ice cream vans in the same bracket as black cab drivers, except they're more seasonal. So I reckon an ice cream van, you get a prime pitch in a park or something like that, or a good round and all that. I reckon you must be raking it in because you just buy cheap, especially because everyone wants a 99p whippy or whatever it is. And they're dirt cheap to probably only cost about 5p in ingredients, 10p in ingredients.

23:24 You're selling them for a pound, pound 50 or whatever, stick a bit of flake in it, you stick another 50p on, even though it's only cost you 20p itself. In terms of profit margin for those sort of things, I reckon that they are absolutely loaded. But I reckon the trouble is, like I said, it's only for seasonal things and only if you get a good pitch. Yeah. So she was, so she pulled up, about 20 kids were queuing. The cheapest ones were about two pounds. The average one was about three pounds and then it kind of went up. So Jaygo naturally managed to find something with £350. It had a few chocolate eggs on it, like mini eggs, Cadbury's mini eggs, three Mr.

24:02 Whippy squirts and some chocolate syrup in a tray. £350. That sounds good value for what it is. But the thing is, it sounds good value because I think even if I was, even if I was imagining things that cost more than they actually cost, she was at least $2.50 up on that, probably more like £272.80. Well, I totally agree, totally agree. But I was thinking about this today when I'm thinking, we're going to go to the pub soon. And my God, beer in pubs is expensive. You're going in a pub, you're not seeing change from 250, 3 quid a pint, maybe 350 if you're in.

24:39 If you're in London, you're paying five, six pound a pint. You live near me, a pint round here is nothing less than four quid, unless you're in exactly. So, all these you can get slightly cheaper, but even the cheapest pub is always going to be way, way, way, way more than all we've got used to over the last year of drinking at home. And you know, if you like, if we're buying rum, that portion of rum that I just poured myself, probably in a bar would cost me about 12 quid. Yeah, and the bottle itself costs 16 quid. Um, and so I, but then I keep reminding myself: I'm not paying for the booze, I'm paying for the ambiance.

25:20 We're paying for the ability to be in a place with other people, atmosphere, music, lights, all that sort of shit. Um, because we don't get that. We've we've got the booze covered at home, but nothing else, and it's just not the same. We're not going out to get drunk, we're going out to have a good time, and you've got to pay for that shit. It's true, but it is a shame now. And I actually put this on the on the pre-roll earlier this week, actually, about where the hell did beer suddenly get so expensive. Yeah, it's like Disneyland, you want to go out for a good night, you're talking about 100 quid. I was thinking about this the other week when I was thinking when I used to go out, and you know, it makes me feel really old here, and I'm sure you're exactly the same.

25:59 I used to be able to go out with 20 quid in my skyrocket, and I'd be able to get beers and beers and beers, get hammered, and still always have enough money in my pocket for a kebab afterwards. Exactly, food on the way. 20 quid was a night out on food on the way home. Can you, I mean, 20 quid, if I go out with a with a lady on a date these days, 20 quid won't even get me two cocktails. No, that's one round of drinks. Do you know what? Last year we were out and out, out, not even out out, but we were out, right? And my mate, he's single dad, right? He wasn't long single then, but so there were these two women, and they were quite young, to be to be fair.

26:41 I think, I think, I don't think we realized quite how young they were until we were sat with them. Paul said, I've told his name. All you have to do is say, Paul, not his real name. They're like, oh, double whammy. Come on, man. So Paul goes and I say, do you want to drink? And they said, yeah, two pina coladas. I love a pina colada. Drink off the glass. Yeah, we were in London, so it cost him, I'm not kidding, 30 quid for the two pina coladas. And so we're sat with these two women and I'm flipping awkward as hell.

27:20 Here's the classic. One of them was French visiting her English kind of exchange student pen pal cousin. I don't know what, but she couldn't really say that well. So Paul was on a hide into nothing all the way, 30 quid. And clearly, one of them didn't even like the thing that she was drinking because she kept sipping it and putting it down. So it was hilarious. Mind you, beers were flipping eight quid there. Why? Why? Because like I say, you're not paying for the beer. You're paying for everything that goes around the beer. And if at the end of the day, I can't pay.

27:57 If I could say, right, instead of me buying a bottle of rum here, I'll pay five times as much, but there'll be a nice lady to sit and talk to as I drink it. I'd pay that every time. I just throw money at it. Because the pub has now got minimum wage, and so he's got to pay loads of money for the staff. And don't even get me started on licensing for sports events. I was speaking to, I mean, sports events can cost like 15 grand a month in some places. Sky, it costs that much money. It's something like that. Yeah, it's ridiculous, ridiculous amounts of money for some of these bars. So you've got all the overheads plus business rates, just being able to survive and be able to keep.

28:37 I mean, look at how much rent would cost for just any property in London. Now you're thinking this is prime property for a bar and so on. My God, it's expensive. It's tough though, and it's just not as fun. You think go to the pub and you're like, okay, well, I need at least 50 quid. Because if someone buys a round, oh my gosh, do I stay in the round? Do I get out the round? Rounds are always, yeah, there's politics about rounds, in there. No, what I hate is start the round, then three other people turn up and you're like, hang on a minute. You just got here. I don't know that I want to, my round suddenly now looks like 50 quid when Mike's round was 20 quid.

29:19 Yeah. And by the way, some bastards can drink like nothing, like mental. That's where I have to get out of rounds. I like the fast drinkers, they're doing me two to one easily. Another round, another beer. Do you want another one? I'm like, A, I can't drink that much. B, where are you getting all his money from? Yeah, there is something. The only time it works is when you're out with a bunch of mates watching the football, and so it doesn't matter how fast you're buying them, um, because you can just sit and watch the football, and it will be on there, and you can just rack them up in front of you. And then once football's over, once the round, the first kind of completed round is done, you might have three or four pints lined up in front of you.

30:04 That's fine. I'll just sit here and enjoy them while someone brings out some roast potatoes that they cooked in the background. Yeah, Tony, here's a question, right? How you know when a stag deal, you do a whip, yeah. Why does that last longer? I don't know. I don't know. I hate whips. It's wisery of the gods, basically. Why does a whip last longer? Yeah, but I hate them, and I don't know why. I just don't like the principle of everyone kind of communism. That's what it is. Communist drinking on a stag to though, surely you've got to let that slide. Oh, you totally do. But the thing is, it's just like just buy drinks. If you're on a stag dude, you don't go there to save money, do you? You go there to get the stag fucked up. Yeah, so everyone's in, everyone's in 20.

30:47 Do you know one of the funniest stags for me? This is the best stag. Like, you know, when you have to make the stag do something right all weekend, right? This is the best one. Every time the stag goes for a piss, he has to do the full toddler pants down like that. That's the best one. Like, all these other ones that are really gross and fully crew. Like, no, the best one is every time he goes to the toilet, you know, someone has to go with every time he goes, he has to do full pants down. I like that. See, I had loads of every time someone shouted hammer time, I had to MC Hammer dance. I had to get a certain number of lipstick kisses all over me. I had to have photos taken with a certain number of women's clothing.

31:30 Genuinely, it was only until the day after I saw myself with bras on. To this day, I don't know how I ended up convincing some women to give me their bras. I wish I knew that skill now because that would come in handy. But yeah, stag dues with me. I've got a bad history in stag dudes. So I know on one of them, I broke my cousin's leg. Another one where I was the best man, my brother, my former brother-in-law, he now has a scar in the shape of New Zealand on his chest because we're going to wax. He was a Boy Scout, and so I made him dress up in a full Cub Scout uniform.

32:11 And he had bad like a scout leader or some sort of, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what he does. And so I figured it'd be funny to get him all dressed up and so on. We did Monopoly around London, and he had a load of badges to wear. So every time he went to a bar, he'd roll a dice. If he got a six, he had to do one of his badges. You know, dib, dib, dib, sort of badge. And so one, it might be that the serenading badge where he had to go up to a random person of our choice. So obviously we chose the most attractive woman in the room and do the top gun, you've lost that loving feeling. You're all right anymore when I kiss your lips. And we would back him up, but he, yeah, so he was doing all that. And one of them was his waxing badge.

32:56 So the plan was as soon as he got that, I'd send one of the guys off, get some like neat or near or whatever the things are that like waxing strips you can get from a local boots and then we'd wax him. So I sent my dickhead of a brother off and he came back and this was, we were a bit squiffy. And he said, bruv, bruv, look, I didn't know, I didn't have, I didn't have any like waxing strips, but I've got some birthday candles. Fucking okay, well, you know, you can drip wax on yourself. And so I thought, okay, so we literally held my brother-in-law down and said to the but the rather attractive barmaid, come over.

33:33 Can you can you just drip this wax on him and then we'll rip it off? She drips it on, but she held the candle so close that the wax didn't dry, it just bubbled on his skin and kind of just melted his skin a bit. And so now he's got a scar on his on his tip that's in the shape of New Zealand. Always to remind himself of that exact moment. Yeah, brilliant. One of our mates we sent to hospital because we had a stripper kind of riding him around the stage on like so he was the horse and she was the jockey not knowing that he actually had some sort of really bad kidney infection and so we were up in Liverpool.

34:11 He came there. He was up there for the first day, was hospitalized on the Saturday and then just had to go home on the Sunday while we just carried on going. Why are you here? That's me. Who's the stag? No, he's not here. Yeah, he's in the hospital. Hindus, it's all about, oh, let's be lovely, let's be supportive. supportive, and let's make sure the hen has a lovely time. Stagdos are about fuck the stag up. Yeah, yeah. I think some Henus, I think if not to label Geordie ladies or other northern lasses, I remember going up there for a second. Medway Towns, Medway Towns, ladies, that could be

34:53 Bristol. I don't know, where are the wildest women in the country? Well, Geordies are mad when I went up there. I mean, we went up there in, I don't know, February time or something like that. And because the stag, he was a big kind of mountain person. So we went up and doing mountaineering courses during the daytime and all that sort of shit. And then at night, going out in Newcastle, fuck me. They were hardcore. I was married at the time, but I want to go up there again. Oh, yeah. Although I did go, Leeds was quite good when I was staggering Leeds. Although the stag did end up putting his head through a window. He was, yeah, he was so drunk.

35:34 Yeah, he was, you know, when you're kind of staggering, staggering, staggering. And he decided to lean forward to put his head on a wall so he could have a piss and didn't realize it was just the window, just straight through. So it wasn't a shop window, just a window. No, this was the house we were staying in that we'd rented, the former Vicarage. Oh, yeah, well, there you go. Nice, you know, Victorian window, single pane, straight through. Straight through. Yeah. God knows how old. But yeah, stages. We've talked about doing a monthly with a women's podcast of the same style and flavor.

36:10 That's definitely, we should be making note of these questions when we get that set up. I do keep looking, by the way, if anyone's listening and your missus listens to some kind of women's podcast where it's two fun women being a bit lairy, being a bit silly. Get us put in touch because I want to do like a monthly or a six-weekly wrap-up where we hang out with some nutty women podcasters and basically take the piss out of each other. I think that'd be good. They would know like the truth behind henus. See, I was thinking, I get the impression that they're all lovely and fun. And then, you know, there's some at the end of the day, one of them's going to end up crying in the toilet.

36:56 But it's all about all the nice things. And they do spa weekends. This is the stereotypical view that men have got about hen weekends. Is that the case? Or are they as debauched as we are? I don't think they're quite as debauched, but that's not true. Some definitely are. There's got to be, because we know there's mad women out there, mad, mad ladettes, keeping up the 90s spirit. Got no hot in the 90s this week, by the way. Sorry, for anyone who loves the hot in the 90s section, we don't have anything lined up. Turns out there's only a certain length of, there's only some like hot in the 90s doesn't have quite as much legs as we thought it might do, basically. Oh, I don't know. There's a lot of hot people from the 90s. But

37:42 one round I think we should do is people who were hot in the 90s who are still hot. I know, but we normally go and look to see if they're still hot. So listen, listeners, listeners and viewers, give us your hot in the 90s categories, right? I was thinking today, because I was chatting to a dad who was a bit overweight and but he was saying to me, how come he looks so good? And I was like, hey, yeah. And then we were talking about it. And so I couldn't help but bat his tummy. I was like, well, there's your problem right there. But I've lost train of thought there. Hot in the 90s. Hot in the 90s. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

38:26 If you're listening, if you've got a category, then I was thinking of like fitness, like fitness workout people in the 90s, but man, but yeah, you're talking about Mr. Motivator type things. Yeah, but yeah. I'm thinking about it from my angle here. I'm okay to extend it slightly into hot in the noughties because in the noughties I was in my 20s. I know you were in your 40s, 50s in the hot ever. Because a friend of mine, he's on Instagram.

39:05 He's in a very happy marriage, right? So his wife pretty chilled out about this. So he's got these hotties he follows on Instagram. So he was liking whatever her name is, photo. And then he gets a notification a couple of days, whatever, TFP is telling us on a mate's Zoom call that his son. you know, like when you get, no, Glenn has liked this post, right? So he gets a notification on his Instagram saying, obviously, not your son, but you know, Simon surname has liked. And he goes, no, he's not liking her photos because I'm liking her photos. And if we're both liking the same photos, you know, it's either really cool and we're like that kind of family or it's really weird.

39:50 It was weird when my daughter was showing me pictures, like video, she keep coming up to me and saying, look at this K-pop band. I mean, isn't she hot? I think she's really attractive because my daughter's bisexual. And so she's kind of doing that sort of thing. And I'm just trying to say to her, look, my head says, yes, I can understand why people would find that woman attractive. However, she's about 12 in my eyes. Yeah, yeah. I mean, she's probably not, she's probably in her early 20s and so on. But look a bit younger anyway, can't they? But I just

40:27 can intellectually say that me and my daughter are kind of attracted to the same type of woman, but no, I'm not going there at all. That's just weird. Oh, yeah. I love it when me and my daughter fancy the same women. You know, we like to do a little bit of serious stuff every now and again, Ken. What's your advice/slash experience of your daughter kind of coming out to you in that respect? I had this conversation with an older guy in the Team Super Dad community a while back, actually, and it turned out his son had come out to him and his wife in his early about 19, just probably went off to university. And

41:12 some kind of 10 years later, he's had a heart-to-heart over lockdown because they're all struggling and said, yeah, I don't think you handled that really well. And it put me into a hole for about five years. So tough conversation for me and the dad to have. And I think I helped him a fair bit. But what can you say to any dad whose child has come out to them in some way, shape, or form? Well, there's two things. There's firstly the dads who it's just happened to. And the other side of it is dads who it definitely hasn't happened to because their kids are too young. And I think there's two different answers to that. To those who have it's just kind of been sprung upon them, they haven't talked about it in the past or anything like that.

41:57 The best thing you can do is make sure that your child knows no matter what, you love them and you appreciate them and it's not an issue and that you care about them and their happiness. And it's not about whether the person they're attracted to happens to be a boy or a girl or whatever. It's just about, are you going to be happy? I'm just as hard on girls, my boy fancies as boys, my girl fancies. I'm equally as hard on each of them and know that I'm going to have the same standards for anyone that my children dates, whatever their gender.

42:40 For those who have got younger children and so on, I've been really keen on preempting things and laying the groundwork because I want... You're talking about someone who can see in their child. No, no, no. Even if you can't see in your childhood, it's not because sexual orientation doesn't always... It's not as if if your boy walks in a certain way, then he's definitely gay. If your girl likes having short hair, then she's definitely gay. It's not like that. It's about no matter whether you think it might be the case or not,

43:21 making sure your kids know that even if they are or they're not, it doesn't matter. It's their identity and they can grow into it and they can own it and you'll celebrate whoever they are, whatever their identity, with sexual orientation, whether they want to be, if they want to be a bin man, I don't care. I'm going to celebrate you if you want to be the best bin man. If you're attracted to women or you're attracted to men, I don't care as long as you're going to be happy and you're going to be raising those standards. Because I'm going to be as hard on any girl my daughter brings home as any boy she brings home. I'm going to be just as stringent in terms of my expectations about their relationship.

44:06 But it's about as early as possible explicitly calling out that it doesn't matter. And it's strange because you kind of want to kind of make it as a thing that doesn't need to be said, but the only way you can make it not said is by saying it. saying it. It's not, it's not always the easiest, comfortable thing, but you have to do it regardless of whether you think your child might be gay or bisexual or anything else or not. You have to have those conversations as early as possible so they know that if they are, it's fine. And if they're not, that's fine. And if their friends are, that's fine. You just have to make them feel as secure that whatever they're talking about, you support them and are there for them and believe them and love them.

44:51 Yeah, so even if they're exploring it and they don't know, you know, you're fine. Like whatever, wherever they're, your kid knows that they're supported. I guess that's the same as if you love your kid playing football and your kid says, I don't like football anymore, dad. I'm going to go and pick up. You say, fuck off. You can be gay, but you're going to play football. But no, just, yeah, I get that. Just having your kid feel like they're heard and appreciated and they've got the space to be themselves. Yeah. And they don't, you don't, and they're not sitting there thinking, oh, we just think it's a phase. It's not. It's you exploring everything about yourself. And whenever you kind of, if you happen to eventually settle down into whatever lifestyle you want to lead, you know what?

45:34 I'm absolutely going to accept it as normal. You know, whatever you do is normal. Whatever you do is good, as long as you're doing it to the best you can possibly do it. But having those conversations, like I say, regardless of whether you think your kids are or aren't gay, that's the point to really do it. I always think if my kids are misbehaving or they're fucked up or they've got bad attitudes now, it's because I fucked up when they were young. I didn't have those conversations. I just thought, let's just hope it never comes up. No, you need to do it early, as early as possible and as regularly as possible and as consistently as possible and then push them and test them as well. And it's the same with we've talked, we've been talking recently about feminism and stuff like that.

46:19 I've taught my kids about feminism as a concept and then I will drop in things that are not feminist. I'll be saying, yeah, well, of course, of course that man's getting earned more. Men are better than women. You know, we should be paid more. And then I will give my kids shit if they don't then pull me up on it. And it's the same for homophobic language or anything which implies that any relationship, any kind of sexual orientation isn't absolutely normal and fine and supported. I will not only teach them it is, but then I'll test them by dropping in the odd comment and then hoping that they pull me up on it.

46:59 Because if they don't, then they don't feel comfortable challenging, in which case they're not comfortable with kind of making that's not, that's not, they're not comfortable with that being normal. True. And even if you agree with that or not, that's about values and that's about your kids having values and honoring those values, which in itself is a decent trait as well, let alone trying to steer them in the way that we feel the world is right now. Good. I hope that's been a contribution to people because, like I said, I think it's ever more common that, well, my girlfriend, she's a teacher. So she's got, she's hearing kids coming and saying, oh, I'm poly something or other. Or I'm not, I'm not, I'm, I'm not gay, I'm this. And

47:42 just being just being like, okay, cool, like, great. Or tell me about it. Tell me about it. Like, wow, I don't know how to react. Tell me. Tell me. Fill me in. What's going on? Yeah. Cool. Well, I don't know more about it than that, so I'm going to leave that subject there. But bring the conversation over to the Team Super Dad community if you want to carry that on. Glenn, it's Easter this weekend. Easter. Yes, it is. Very religious, man. But do you have any Easter traditions at Easter Bunny with your kids? No, when you say not very religious, I'm anti-religion. So I am actively atheist. So yeah, I've got no problem with celebrating pagan festivals.

48:23 I've got no problem with chocolate. I'll buy them chocolate and do that sort of stuff. They've got shelves of it and it just ends up sitting there and being put in cupboards. Same thing. I have a faith. I have both a Christian and spiritual sort of faith-based ethos. As far as opposing other religions go, no, I definitely don't go that far. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm with you on that. If you're going to expect me to believe my religion's right, then I've got to kind of allow you the freedom to expect your religions right or your freedom to believe there's no religion at all. I struggle with the idea that there's nothing out there bigger than us. Oh, I love that idea.

49:08 I love it. I love it so much. It makes, in my mind, it makes absolute perfect. perfect utter sense. And it gives me a sense of completeness that I would never have otherwise. There is, there's no reason to anything. There's no plan. It's just we are where we are. Enjoy absolutely everything we possibly can because there is no before and there is no after. So make the most of what we've got now because that's all you're getting. Yeah. Well, I'm in the space of I believe there's an after, but not like it's heaven or hell. I just believe that we are we are a spirit-based being on a journey and that and that just as much as a baby in the womb would be like, oh, this is brilliant.

49:52 And then be like, oh, fuck, what's going on? Like, no, no, don't push me through the bar. Who's talking style? So my experience of life is kind of a bit like that. Well, no, don't flip me, Marbro. Oh, I've died and it's lovely over here. You know, it's kind of, I'm, I'm, I'm more along those. There's too many things that happen on a on a coincidental basis that just don't that just don't feel of this of this world. But but without getting deep into that, I'm more interested about the chocolate flipping traditions and stuff because tomorrow night and the girlfriend is staying tomorrow night.

50:31 We'll be doing Easter baskets and then we'll be hiding them ready for the kids to find them, which was a tradition that I got given by my American family. So Easter morning when we used to be there every Easter, there'd be this mad hunt for the baskets. And the baskets are basically packed full of sweets or candy. Right. And American chocolate is shit. So it's not. It is. It is awful. What happened there? Like they, what did they do? They're just like, right, we're not going to buy your chocolate. We're going to make our own chocolate. And you know what? We're not going to make it as good. So we're just going to make it big chocolate in the world and we're just going to sell shit chocolate.

51:11 I just don't get it because European chocolate isn't, it's not like we've got some sort of weird secret ingredients. People know how to make chocolate the way Europeans make it. And the way Europeans make it is the best chocolate in the world. Every American who comes over and tries European chocolate says, my God, that's better. We've been cheated. What is this flipping magic brown stuff? Yeah. It's ridiculous. For the first 25 years, pre-internet, right? Pre-internet. When I used to go to America, I used to be like flipping Don Corleone, except I wasn't packing one

51:47 stuff. Just bags and bags of Cadbury's chocolate. But what I don't like about the whole Easter thing, I've got a big problem with the kind of escalation of celebration of these things. Obviously, this one's a Christian festival or whatever, but paganism for Halloween and all that sort of stuff. Oh, Halloween's off the charts is insane. It is. But with all these things, I've heard people saying, What are you getting your kids for their Easter presents? What? Fuck right off. This is not a present-giving moment. They can have an Easter egg that's been shit out by a bunny, and that's as much as their bloody getting.

52:28 Well, that must be why. That's why Amazon did a spring sale last week. Their pre-Easter flipping get us a present bonanza. Yeah, yeah, that's absolute, utter bullshit. If my kids ever come to me and said, What are you going to get me for Easter? then I will fucking get them a bin fire. A bin fire? No. Did people ever do this? Put shit in the dog shit in a bin and set a fire. They come out and they see a pile of burning stuff and they stamp it and they're stamping on burning shit. Is that true? I've heard of it. Yes. I've definitely heard of it. I've never experienced it nor seen it. But 70s thing.

53:08 Did it ever happen? Did it ever happen? This is one of those things where you because you have to get the shit from somewhere. And nobody, I mean, that's a level of dedication to hatred. No, I've just had an idea, Glenn. Is your dad still alive? He's only 61. Fucking geezer. Six kids. He's only 61. Man's got, he's Catholic, surely. We should get our dads on, yeah, to give us like a proper old school dad perspective. I would love that. My dad, one of my favourite things my dad ever did for a little while without before, he didn't really tell us until he kind of had recorded a couple.

53:46 He recorded recipes as he's making it. And it's like a cockney chef. He's like, yeah, you say, well, you just, yeah, just chop a bit of pepper in it. Just shove a bit of paprika on top. It's pucker, innit? It's wicked. Just do this. Can he do a Zoom call? He can do. He absolutely can do a Zoom call. I would love to get him on. Is he a boozer? My dad's a boozer, basically. a boozer my my dad yes he he's the man who and the spurs fan right you're massive spurs fan so yeah go ahead massive spurs fan and but he drinks beer and so he will if we're drinking beer he will drink me under the table because he can just hold

54:27 beer i don't know how he just absorbs it and then maybe pisses once he's a human camel so what we'll do is this is brilliant we're going to so do this it could end up being a series we will get like whatever they're called generation x or generation no he's a boomer he's from 1960 we'll get i don't know i don't know how these old things are the linear of all these things right but we'll get the baby boomers which will be our two dads and we'll get us two and we will like do some flipping topic cards like five minutes on i i just i'd i'm ironing like off chicken iron everything

55:05 i'd love to see from their perspective how it's different being a dad now like how they see us being dads as opposed to how they were dads and for me it's got the added kind of layer of that because it might my dad you know he left us when i was a baby when i was a kid i was five um and so didn't have the day-to-day dadding type thing so how he built that relationship up and how uh i i remember when when i whenever my my life changed he was like that's all right son you'll be like you can live your life now and you'll see your kids every couple of weeks don't want to chat about i've kicked her out i've got the kids full time and i'm desperate to keep them as much and full i think we're from different generations old man son we've got to talk

55:51 that is well we are so doing that so we don't need to find dads because we've got two and then we're going to get them lined up and we're going to get these women on as well we're going to do that when's father's day oh yeah we could do a father's day special let's do it for father's day okay right i think it's in july i think but um we can do it i'm sure we can i'm sure we'll have it before father's day though yeah yeah good glenn good a great session we didn't cover virtually anything on our list and that's absolutely no we didn't we did call it they think it's all over um which uh which is about lockdown basically it's it's we've got a couple of minutes a before the hours up and b before i piss myself but uh uh they

56:28 think it's all over did you see that picture of everyone in leads on on wednesday thousand people in the park i've got to say there's there's some people online who have said oh it's just young people let them do their thing you know we've all been locked up it's all about mental off no they're dickheads they should be called out because it's absolutely outrageous it doesn't matter if outdoor kind of um outdoor stuff is as they've not got absolute evidence it increases stuff the risk is massive we're so close to the finishing line why would you just think it's all stumble especially when there's a flipping vigil for a murdered woman gets bashed up after you know

57:07 a couple of other things and i think there's two so that one that had a political element that kind of was almost more important than the covid risk yeah this was a bunch of twats sitting in a park for no reason other than the sun was shining off and take your rubbish home with you oh that's the worst bit that's the worst bit take leave no trace leave no trace leave no trace take nothing but photos leave nothing but memories yeah good glenn uh bloody good to have you on board my friend i love doing this uh a dating dad over on twitter uh be nice to glenn come on let him iron and don't tell him what to do don't uh

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