Topic: Kenya

Biographer Sally Jacobs discusses her book on Barack Obama Sr., portraying him as a brilliant but self-destructive alcoholic and polygamist. The hosts critique the media's "hit piece" style on the father compared to the praise given to the mother. Obama himself is heard reading from "Dreams from My Father," describing his father as a "prop" in a narrative.

The background of New York Times reporter Farah Stockman is examined, noting her time teaching in Kenya and her work with non-governmental organizations. The hosts suggest her personal history may influence her perspective on the tensions between native black Americans and African immigrants.