44: Big Bank Barry

00:05 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for July 25th, 2020. This is episode number 44. And we did it. It's Saturday and we're dropping. I can't believe it. Hey, Mo, how you doing? Dropping on a Saturday afternoon. I'm doing fine. Yeah, dropping on a Saturday, man. You're doing fine, Adam. How about yourself? Yeah, I'm doing real good. It's been, I guess it's been a pretty good week. And yeah, I've done my homework. I've been doing the work, which means I watched all the episodes of The Last Dance about the Chicago Bulls, Michael Jordan, and I feel I've been schooled.

00:51 Now I know what's going on. I also realized that when it comes to podcasting, I'm really the Michael Jordan of podcasting, which makes you the Scotty Pippin. I'll be that. No, you're not the Michael Jordan of podcasting. You're the naismith. I mean, you invented that guy. I don't know if I can take all that. Come on. Michael Jordan. He only played. That was a good game. Well, what a fantastic podcasting. What a fantastic documentary. And the whole time, it's in your face right there. Why is this man successful?

01:27 Because he had a supportive dad. I think that's a huge part of it. And you can see all these guys, all these, well, Pippin had a little different situation, but holy crap, man. Dads. That's the common denominator. We have to do that contrast. We have to do that contrast between LeBron James, who didn't have that strong father structure and presence compared to Michael Jordan who did. That has to be discussed down the line somewhere because there's a huge contrast there. And I'm glad you brought that up. Yeah, it was fascinating to see. I really enjoyed it. Speaking of father figures, this next topic we cover today, it's going to be an influential part of the story as well.

02:13 Okay, let me roll out the wheel. Hold on, everybody. It's time to spin the wheel of topics. Where it stops, nobody knows. Well, obviously, Mo kind of knows, but let's see what we're going to be discussing on today's episode of Mo Facts with Adam Curry. This is episode number 44. The topic is Barack Sin Alibama. Okay. We haven't done a full episode on Barack Obama, have we? No, we haven't. And it's this Due Time show 44. Yep. He's the 44th president. And coming off the last episode and coming out the last episode of the Marxism and community organizing, I thought it was only appropriate that we take an official deep dive into the topic, which you can't cover him in one episode alone.

03:03 No, I know. His rise was so incredible, how it worked in Chicago and everything. And, you know, forget Hawaii and before that, but it's really quite a tale that, you know, it's been written about by many people. I don't know how many people actually know the true story or the outside of the narrative that we've all heard. Well, if you just take it on his face value, you got a man here named Barack Hussein Obama elected in a time where America was fighting a war in the Middle East, and he's so-called black by how loosely they use the definition, but has no lineage to slavery, apparently, or how it's reported. And he has a mom named Stanley.

03:48 So, I mean, like, if you tell me, if you tell me that's going to be your 44th president, I'm taking the money against that happening. Right. Right. Right. I hear you on that. So get into it. I guess we need to just dive right into the audacity of Barack Obama one. Well, tonight on Harvard, we bring you a special report on the audacity of Barack Obama, covering the remarkable journey we've witnessed of him through the Obama Arab. It's a look back at how the president has conducted himself in the public eye, how he evolved in office, and how he overcame the many challenges that stood in his way.

04:30 We were there from the very beginning, of course, when as a relatively unknown state senator, Barack Obama delivered that rousing keynote address at the Democratic Convention up in Boston back in 2004. There is not a liberal America and a conservative America. There is the United States of America. There is not a black America and a white America and Latino America and Asian America. There's the United States of America. Well, you're going to. even at first glimpse, we all knew I did. I thought we're witnessing something special here. Here was my immediate reaction after he was finished with that amazing speech.

05:07 Oh, his leg was tingling. I just seen the first black president there. I know the reason I say that is because I think the immigrant experience, combined with the African background, combined with the incredible education, combined with his beautiful speech. Not every politician gets help for the speech, but that speech was a piece of work. Yeah. You know what was really interesting about that particular convention? That was the first convention that they gave press credentials to bloggers. And Obama was just swamped. He did a lot of work with the bloggers in the press room. It was, that was definitely a part that has not been discussed very often.

05:51 And two things he said in that clip are ring the bell for. One, he talked about the roadblocks that Obama faced. I'm not sure, like election-wise, not talking about once he got in office and the pushback that he received there. But during the election, I don't remember any roadblocks. I mean, everything was like laid out for him perfectly by the press, by everything else, to step right into the position. And two, he said about the background, and he even had to catch himself because he said the immigrant background, he said, African background.

06:34 He couldn't say African-American spirits because that's not technically true. Right. Now, about this speech he gave at the 90, excuse me, the 2004 convention, my man NidiFats, one of my best friends, if not my best friend, we were rapping at the time and he wrote a rhyme. It was like, Barack Obama is going to be the next president or something like that. And we looked at each other and I'm like, I mean, this is like in 04 when he wrote this, and we're like, and that might be so. And here's a clip. No, no, but we just looked when he said that and it was like, I was like, you might be right.

07:17 And after that, it was just like he came up on the radar and boom. It was off to the running. Once he came out in 04, but I say, I said this before, and I'll say it again for this show. Before 04, I never heard Obama. No, no, it never, ever. Unless you knew about Illinois state politics or really Chicago politics. But that's not the point I'm making. I got you. I had every copy of Ebony. Ah, I see what you're saying. Right, right. Essence, we watched BT Faithfully, Teen Summit used to come on Saturday mornings, all these shows, and never in my life heard of Barack Obama.

07:58 And then he drops out of the sky. He just popped out of the womb in 2004. Like, who is this guy? But nobody questioned his credentials. He's just like, who is he? And he's like, oh, he's our best shot to get a black president. So everybody just kind of got behind him. Yes. And that isn't, that's kind of cutting it short. Everybody just, oh, all right. Is that what happened? Everyone went, oh, yeah, all right, cool. Well, they gave him the swag test. I mean, that was the term at the time used. I mean, I'm sure it's drip or sauce or whatever other term you want to use now. More recent slang, but he had the swag test. He had the bop. He gave the proper dap.

08:39 You know, he had the black wife, black kids. Right. It's like, he going down the checks, and then he didn't have the white diction that you normally have with somebody of his credentials. So it was, it was, it was perfect. I mean, when you hear somebody Harvard Law review and Yale and Skull and Bones, you don't expect him to talk in that way. Right, right. Okay. So he checked a lot of boxes right off the top. He checked every box. How about your mom? What did your mom say when she first saw Obama? Everybody loved him. I mean, it was like Barack Obama. I mean, I can't explain it. It was just. He was.

09:27 I don't think people could really wrap their head around. I mean, we're talking bigger than Martin Luther King. We're talking bigger than Michael Jordan. I mean, on that level of fame. But overnight, it just came out of nowhere. So I really want people to understand that. Was there discussion about his so-called blackness in your family or with your friends? I don't know. You couldn't question him. Once he hit the scene, it was like he was above questioning. because he was like, This is our best shot. And when I say us, not me per se, my generation, I think it was the older, I hate to use this term, but boomers.

10:06 Yeah, they were like, This is what we fought for. This is what we, even though a lot of them didn't participate in the civil rights movement, it was like this is what the whole movement was about. Yeah, that makes me think that makes total sense. Yeah, this was the culmination, the crescendo of it all. This is where this is what we wanted to have, right? Correct. So, let's get into Audacity 2. It sure was. Three short years later, we gathered at the place where Abraham Lincoln once stood in Springfield, Illinois, to hear the future president kick off his campaign. Coldest day of the year in the shadow of the old state capitol, where Lincoln once called on a house divided to stand together, where common hopes and common dreams still live.

10:52 I stand before you today to announce my candidacy for president of the United States of America. I think it's so important we look back and catch the dynamic of this, the wonderful trend of a guy who comes from really nowhere, a state senator, basically is on the road to the White House before he was even elected as Senator from Illinois. Out of nowhere, it's magic. How did it happen? How's it possible? Isn't America great? America. That's a legit observation. I mean, out of no, I'm one of these people, you know. I mean, I follow policy even as a young person. Just a little bit of

11:36 to give people a little bit of understanding about where I come from. I was like a junior freedom rider, seventh grade treasurer. And I have to tell that story another time, but I guess I can give a short version of it. Yeah. Seventh grade, I win this treasury for my school. So I guess being a black person and winning that and being the treasurer of seventh grade, that put a flag on me to say, like, really? No, I'm serious. I mean, it was like kind of they brought me into the guidance council office, like, we want you to be a junior freedom rider. And they put us on a bus and we dressed up and kind of went like did like cosplay for civil rights.

12:19 And this is kind of the insight, but I always veered away from that kind of thing. Like, it just seems strange to me because when we went to these functions, they're pushing all kinds of other stuff, like women showing you how to put condors on with bananas. I'm like, well, I thought we were here freedom ride. When you were seven or eight? No, seventh grades. Oh, seventh grade. Sorry. All right. Yeah, but I'm like, I'm pro-black. I mean, like, I'm pro-black. I mean, like, my dad, like, was that seventh grade? So it's about the right time. My dad, at 13, he gives us, he gave us all a copy of Malcolm X

12:58 autobiography of Malcolm X. But like, he's here and like, so I'm waiting. I'm like, yeah, let's go get, you know, let's go get our freedom. Right. And we get here, and it's all these liberal, looking back now, hindsight, it's all these liberal policies they're pushing and agendas. And was this not just a person strange? Was this a white school, black school? Obviously, mixed. What was the degree? It was mostly, well, Durham is half and half from Durham, North Carolina. So I would say it was maybe 60, 40, 65, 35. But at these functions, it was majority.

13:37 White people telling you how to put a condom on a banana? It was minorities. So you had to be a female. Yeah, it had to be, but a lot of females. But yeah, it was just weird. I mean, just to give people insight. So I kept up with politics. I mean, long story short, I was kind of into politics and knew whoever black was running. And Barack Obama never came across my radar ever. Right. Well, that's the long, short form of that story. But you go, Freedom Rider. Just want to let people know. Yeah. Yeah. Junior Freedom Rider. They tried to indoctrinate me, man. They tried to indoctrinate me early. What happened? I escaped. Yeah, we have to figure out why it didn't work, why the programming failed on you

14:23 because I was taught to think for myself by a strong dad. I'm pretty sure that's part of it. So I guess we can get away from that long story and get back into Audacity 3. Michael, I think sometimes we got to get away from a president for at least maybe a decade before we can even look back and see him whole. What do you think of Obama? Because we're going to go right through this the next 20 minutes. So tell me about what you see now. Well, I think. think you have to begin by saying that this was a terrific chief of state. This is someone who, with that family and that stature and his persona, represented this country well around the world and presided wonderfully over this country in that role.

15:05 You know, the other thing is that we're so pressed right now to have sort of an instant read on Obama's legacy the way that future generations will see him. It's going to depend so much on what follows. I know it's somewhat frustrating, but let's say Donald Trump turns out to be an effective president and the economy is looking wonderful in a few years. You know, as Trump goes, if Trump goes up, that's not going to be good for Obama. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. There we have it. Yes. And do you know who that was? Do you know who that was? Who was saying that? Michael, something. I missed his last name. That's all right. That's all right. But there we have it.

15:49 The media tripled down on Obama. So if Trump is successful, then it makes Obama look even worse and makes the media look bad as well. So now you see part of the motive of keeping the Obama product. And I said product for a reason because let's look at Obama's through the same lens as MLK. I'm not talking about the man here. Now, a large portion of this show, we're going to look into the man, but to the media, he is a product of our control mechanism.

16:32 I will say this: as a politician, you probably can't get any better politician than Barack Obama. From the history's best, absolutely. From the just how to work a crowd and just the appearance and the family life and perfect comedic timing. A pro perfect comedic timing. So good. And the women loved him because he's not. Oh, yeah. He wasn't in women's eyes. I've heard it say this. He's not so attractive that he makes men uncomfortable, but women have a thing for him. And he was a lot of women's fantasy, sexual fantasy.

17:17 Definitely a lot of white women's sexual fantasy. And it's not a secret. And I also understand that. I get that. And I would say all women, and for especially single moms, he was like that dad to point to. Be like him. You're a doofus. Look at your stupid man with your wife beater. Be like Barack. Exactly. It's very hard for us married men, the Barack Obama years. So hopefully we understand part of the reason why the media will always protect Obama and bash Trump because the media got Obama elected. Let's just be honest here. I mean, he was the media's candidate out the box.

18:03 They did everything they could to undermine anybody that got into his way. And this, and as we'll hear later in the show, this didn't just start with presidential politics. No, no. No. So now we have to get into a set of throwback clips because they lavish all this praise on him. And this guy, Michael, the last guy that spoke, did this weird thing of, we really need to wait a decade before we judge Obama. Yeah. Because if you look at the facts, it's like we're going to be hard to find anything. Exactly. It's nothing really there, especially for black people or so-called black people or quote-unquote black people.

18:48 So let's get into this next set of throwback clips from show 23, and we'll start with Tavis Smiley 1. This week, while we were traveling in Iowa, we spoke with Mr. Smiley about what's changed over the last decade. As Martin Luther King Day approaches on Monday, we started by talking about what areas, if any, are better for Black America now than they were before Barack Obama took office. I'm sad to report that in every single leading economic category, Black America has lost ground over the last decade in every major economic category. We've lost ground. So this book comes out, as you said, in 2006. So clearly, this book was out before Obama shows up to win in 2008.

19:29 So the book was never about Barack Obama then. This 10-year update is not about him now. But it is true that over these last 10 years, most of that on his watch, Black America has lost ground in the major economic indicator categories. Yeah, it didn't take long for Tavis. Smiley to be off the air. And this is when Tavis Smiley lost his position in Black Inc. Yes. You went against the goose that lays golden eggs. Yeah. And he told the truth and he received so much backlash. And like you said, he just vanished. He was pretty much for so-called sexual harassment and

20:11 unpleasant workplace atmosphere, hostile workplace, a whole bunch of stuff. And so then PBS dropped him. And then from there, it just went downhill. And he was labeled as one of the worst things you can be in the black community. Really? A hater. Hater. You're just an Obama hater. You're just a hater. Is that to this day? Surely that's changed for some people that they don't think that anymore. Or is he still? Well, subconsciously, when putting these clips together, that was a subconscious. I mean, of course, it was conscious if I thought about it, but it was a looming, let me use that word, a looming thought is like, don't come across as just a hater.

20:54 We need to have fact. No, it's serious because I'm with you. This is a test you can do to see who you're talking to. Bring up Obama and see it's the Obama test. Right. You have the, you have the Obots, which he never did anything wrong. And they'll even, they'll go as far to as explain away why he didn't get anything done with the first two years when he had, you know, everything lined up for him. They'll make excuses for that. But at the same time, they'll say he's the greatest thing ever to happen to us. So those are the Obots. And then you have those people that's, well, he was good.

21:36 Good optics. You know, good optics for black folks. It's interesting. I was talking with the keeper about this just last night by coincidence. I remember when, and I probably have a clip from it somewhere. For the first two weeks after Obama was elected, the first time, the police were everywhere saying, hey, we're going to be really on the watch. Anyone says any racist shit, we're coming after you. They were like super protectors of Obama. Do you remember that? No, I don't remember that, but I remember it was like a long, like four-month hangover after he won of just partying, especially inauguration. It seemed like it never ended. Oh, yeah, there's that. Yeah.

22:20 Yeah. But it was, I will mention this now, just so people, if they haven't heard previous shows, there was the wink, wink, nod, nod. The first four years, he has to do his, you know, be presidential. And, but if we can just get him to the second term. Then he's going to do all the cool stuff for black folks. Right. Reparations, all that, you know. Yeah. And that was not verbalized, but that was the wink, wink, nod, nod. Like, we got, we got one in, we got one in. And there was no reason not to think that. Were there any community leaders who were spearheading this wink, wink, nudge, nudge, or was it really everyone?

23:01 Not even Al Sharpton was saying anything. You couldn't talk about it, though. Right. Because you don't want to scare white folks. Can't scare the white voters, you know? So that was the balance because his makeup of what got him elected was a lot of people. It had to take, it had to be a lot of white people. I mean, of course, sure. Black turnout, but he, so it's like this balance that he, he can't seem too scary, but he's one of ours. You know, in many ways, we can't ask. In many ways, I think it was a bit of a reparation vote, just considering goggles or do I just keep going?

23:45 No, please. I'm going to follow you up. It was not a guilt vote. It was really a reparation vote because I think when people voted for Obama, they really wanted to. My uncle, Republican all his life, CIA guy, total, you know, best friends with Bush Sr. Nah, Obama twice. And it was really, and of course, the Hope and Change message worked extremely well. Although, you know, it was, I think, rightly, universally scoffed. But the sad thing is, I really believe that if Obama had spent time in his second term on doing, well, let's just call it on

24:26 getting tangibles. I think he could have gotten it. I really do. I think he had the motivation. Yeah, screw the Republicans or whoever, you know, whatever. I think he could have gotten stuff done. Like real tangible tangible stuff. stuff. I'm glad you call it a reparations vote. And it's not the fact that it's like, oh, we're voting because we owe you something. It was the fact that, see, if you put up a quality black person for the job, I don't mind hiring them. Like, yeah, these goes to showing, like, I'm all about the content of your character. You know, did you use that line? Yeah. So it was like, white people fall like, see, you put up a quality candidate, we'll vote for him.

25:07 Now, I will say this about reparations. The same high that we had of the post-racial America that they tried to sell us to, sell us on real reparations, will do that and it will have the real effect because it's like job done. I mean, like, we handle that. So you can't beat me over the head with anymore. And that's why I'm a proponent of reparations. Right. So it's done. So it's done and over with. Yeah. Now we can stop talking about this 400-year narrative, which I always say the narrative is just as dangerous as the action because that's what the mental slavery stems from, is the narrative.

25:47 So you could put a tie that up, put a button on it, and then you can go and start moving forward. Slavery. Exactly. So I just want to let people know that high and that camaraderie that we had post, right, right after Obama and pre-the beer gate. That could be the real feeling. So, yeah, I guess we can let Tavis Miley continue on with two talking about how we lost ground. What accounts for the fact that less, that there's so little progress, or indeed the backslider, what accounts for that going on under

26:31 the leadership of the first African-American president? How do we explain that? Yeah, I think there are a few things. And to your question, how do we explain it? I don't know. I think the historians are going to have a very difficult time trying to juxtapose how, in the era of the first black president, the bottom fell out for black America. That's going to be a hard juxtaposition to make. I hope to be around to read what their account is for why they think that happened. But my research in this text suggests a few things in no particular order. Number one, there was too much deference to the president by black people. We got so caught up in the symbolism that we didn't press hard enough on the substance. And so symbolism does matter. I just think substance matters as well. And so there was too much deference in some part to the president on the part of black people.

27:11 Black leaders were sidelined and silenced too often in favor of an invitation to the White House. And so more could have been done in terms of pressing an agenda. You look at the gay and lesbian community. Look at the environmental movement. Of course, Wall Street gets everything they want, but look at what other communities gained over the last decade. And look how Black America wasn't just stagnant, but indeed lost ground over the last 10 years in part one because we were too deferential. Oh, man. He's probably ground zero of the cancel canon. There you go. Can we get one for Tavis Smiley? Here we go. He never got a cannon because he was before his time. He was trending.

27:56 And as he said it, he was saying why I'm going to be canceled because you can't say anything bad about him. You got it. You know, all the leaders were sidelined. Nobody questioned him. And it was just at least here's the line everybody will use. When you back them into a corner and they can't, they don't have anything from Obama. They say, at least he showed my kids they one day could be black president. Right. And that's that's pretty much the whole legacy. At least it starts with at least. Yeah. That's too bad. Yeah. That's really too bad. Really a missed chance.

28:33 I mean, I never knew very early on something was up, not with Obama, but I was going back and forth between London and San Francisco at the time. And in the condo I was renting or apartment I was renting, my next door neighbor, she was, I think that's maybe where I started using the term an Obama bot. And they had camps and she would volunteer and these camps were like, you know, three days in a row and you'd learn how to harass people into voting for Obama. It was, she was white and really, really dedicated compared to now, I would say, probably

29:16 with an undertone of a Black Lives Matter type vigor. You know what I mean? And without saying, what, you're going to vote for the black man. You know, almost not verbalizing that, but it was pretty clear. And also a very strong sense of if you're not for Obama, then you're no good. There was a. a very strong sense of that. Let me say it like, I think I hear it. If you're not for Obama, you're against black people. Well, that's obviously the implication. Yes, of course. You're obviously a race. That's a hell of a rock to put. Yeah. But that's what white people do to each other. Well, no, because it's happening on the other side now with 45.

29:59 If you're for Donald Trump, do you have to be a coon? Okay. So, I mean, it's across the border, buddy. There you go. Same thing. It's the same thing. It's like you're browbeaten into believing what everybody else wants you to believe instead of having your own. But is a coon just as bad as a racist, or is a racist worse? I mean, what Trump's in paper rock scissors? You know, which one wins? So a coon is equal to what they call a race traitor. I mean, that's the best nation. That's a real traitor. Okay. Right. Right. So modernly the worst thing you're a hurtful version of Uncle Tom. You're ousted. I mean, you're ousted from the communities. Right. Gotcha. I'm Adventila Tavis Smiley, but worse.

30:43 Woof. Okay. So clear. I got it. Yeah. So I guess we'll wrap up with the final clip from Tavis. Number two, clearly there was indifference. There's no doubt about the fact that this president received the kind of headwind that no president has ever received. There was clearly obstructionism. So that's a factor as well. But the third factor, I think, I would put as a question. I think, again, historians would debate this for years to come. Did Barack Obama not get enough done on black issues because he was obstructed? Or did he not try hard enough? Did he not do enough? And I think the answer is clearly both. We'll see where the historians come down on that. But this book, again, is not about him per se. It's about where black America is 10 years after that text.

31:26 And again, it's just not a happy report. There are pockets of progress, but across the board, we've regressed. This was Tavis promoting his book? Yes. Do you know the title of it by any chance? I think it is Black America Lost Ground Under Obama. I think it's something similar to the title of those clips. All right, I'll make sure I get it in the show notes. All right. So that's how it began and how it ended. So what we had to do now is fill in. We're not really going to get into any of his policies or things of that nature. I want to get into who was Barack Obama before he was presented to us in 04.

32:10 And then what was the fallout of having him for eight years? That's kind of like where we're going with this show. So the biggest fear of Barack Obama, I would say, from, and I can't, I'm speaking out of place here because I'm not a white person, but a non-black person, the biggest fear was he could secretly be an angry black man, right? That's the secret. And so much so, they had the angry translator at the press dinner, I believe it was. It was Pill from Keen Peel. Yeah, like Obama would say something and then Peel would translate it in the angry black man voice.

32:54 I remember this. But so they actually did one on the show on the Keen Pill show itself. Let's just, I mean, it's funny how art imitates life, which imitates art, right? I mean, it's a cyclical thing. So let's get into the art portion of it with Obama's Angry Translator. Good evening, my fellow Americans. Now, before I begin, I just want to say that I know a lot of people out there seem to think that I don't get angry. That's just not true. I get angry a lot. It's just that the way I express passion is different from most.

33:37 So, just so there's no more confusion, we've hired Luther here to be my anger translator. Luther? First off, concerning the recent developments in the Middle Eastern region, I just want to reiterate our unflinching support for all people and their right to a democratic process. Hey, all y'all dictators out there, keep messing around and see what happens. Just see what happens. Watch. Also, to the governments of Iran and North Korea, we once again urge you to discontinue your uranium enrichment program. Hey, Mahmoud, Kim John? I think I already done told both y'all. 86 shit, bitches. I'm going to come over there and do it for y'all. Please test me and see what happens.

34:18 On the domestic front, I just want to say to my critics, I hear your voices and I'm aware of your concerns. So maybe you can chill the hell out for like a second, then maybe I can focus on some shit, you know? That goes for everybody. Now, you have an interesting, you have an interesting take on that. Tell me again, you thought that perhaps people were worried he was an angry black man, secretly an angry black man, or there was fear of that. Yes, fear of that because they thought behind the smile. Well, who's they? White people? Okay, I'm going to say this. This is the perception of black people, of white people concerning Obama. Good. And the fear of voting. Good. Good. I did not take that at all. I've never heard this.

35:03 In my core of whiteness, I don't feel it. I'll tell you what it to me it meant and still means is the guy doesn't have enough black credibility and needs a little toughening up, a little gangster, little gangster narrative. So, yeah, he talks like this, but this is really what's going down. And quite honestly, that's not much different than what Trump says in Trump language. Hey, hey, little man. Hey, Rocket Man. Yes. That's why I rang the bell. Luther actually sounds like Trump. It's like Obama thinks it and it's okay for him to think it, but you just can't say it.

35:44 And I think that's why people really have it out for 45 Savage is that he actually said, did you just say 45 Savage? Yeah, that's my name for Trump. I've never heard of this. You've not introduced this on the show. I have. I have. You just catch up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, 45. 45 Savage. But seriously, this is what I love. This is very interesting. Of course, there are outliers, but in general, I don't think there were any white people were all in, man. They're like, yeah. Well, there were issues, of course, and there was narrative in the media. But to me, this was something actually to me,

36:29 it worked for him. I was like, yeah. Yeah. Why don't you talk like that? It was actually kind of my, because I remember this angry. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. I understand why he can't do that. But last thing you could be in America is an angry black man. I understand. And I don't want to take away from your flow, but it's not. It's just as interesting to me that you, and we're generalizing, you say black people thought that's what white people thought about the black man. And I'm just saying, I don't think so. I don't think there was a majority of people scared about him being an angry black man.

37:09 I think they were scared of other things, which were unknown. You know, his real background, you got this fuzziness of the birth certificate. Is he a Muslim? There was a lot of shit being thrown in the air. Angry black man, not one of the memes I remember. That's all. Doesn't mean that's just as good. That's the undercurrent of being a Marxist. That's the undercurrent of being maybe a sleeper cell terrorist. You know, he's fueled by some kind of anger. That's what I'm saying. Okay. And let me let people. Yeah, I'm with that. I'm with that.

37:48 Because like I was saying, the anger manifests itself as, oh, he wants to destroy America or he's the Antichrist. Or, I mean, like all these things. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, all of that is true. Of course. It's deep. It's deep seated in that anger. And let me, let me, as a side, I have to say this because we never breached it. I mean, we never broached this topic before. The angry black man. Black men have to be self-conscious of how we're perceived not to come off as angry. And this is a real thing because just say if I'm somewhere and I work or what somewhere and I have a scowl on my face from thinking, like when I'm in thought, I scowl.

38:34 Yeah. People come to you, say, you all right? You alright? Everything all right? Like, what do you mean is everything all right? Um, huh? That's that's that way. You know, it's a real phenomenon and it has to be talked about. And this is why people say, oh, why are black men so docile? It's because like if I raise my voice, you know, saying like, I'm going to go crazy. Well, and that fears people. I mean, it really scares people. You have to be. I had an experience a couple months ago. It was during the lockdown. And I just come out of the grocery store and I drive into this very busy intersection.

39:16 And so, but, but of course, it's Rona lockdown. So there's not a lot of cars. There's cars. And I got a full green light. So, I'm just moving. And there's this guy, he starts, you know, he starts crossing the road. Looks, sees me, and does one of those slow crosses. So, he's crossing on red, you know, and it's just really slow. Now, he looked, he was dark-skinned. He could have been, didn't look homeless, look more griftery, but it doesn't really matter. And, you know, so I just slowed down, and the guy's just slow. You know, I'm like, and so I tap the horn, beep, beep, and the guy goes into a rage and yelling and you know, angry black man.

40:01 And for me, here's the reason why I wouldn't have brought it up otherwise. But I felt so comfortable. It didn't scare me at all. And I think this show has influenced me. I'm like, well, all right, man. You go ahead, you wave your arms all you want. But I could see the other motorists because I stopped in an open window. I said, hey, man, just chill up, bro. Just follow the rules. We all got to do it. But I just, I didn't feel scared at all, which is new for me because I'm sure I would have in the past. And just to wrap this up, this is this, what in black people's mind, especially black men, the appearing as an angry black man is really what hides the fear between cops and black men.

40:47 Because it's like you coming into the situation, that's why you can have one cop that's cool. He's like, hey, bro, you know, right, right. And then the next cop comes over like, handsome hood. I mean, like, what? Do you know what the difference is between those cops? I have no idea. The one cop has done the work. No, you're exactly right. It's really true. It's just not the work that Robin D'Angelo is serving on. No, it's, it's, yeah. But you have experience with dealing with it. It's cultural. It's like, you know, I understand. It's very cultural. I think that that is a topic for the future we might want to expand on because that's a really good one.

41:27 And it's meta. It's meta across everything. So to get to this angry black man that America feared, I found this clip of this young black man who probably be about the same age as Barack Obama, maybe a little older, but maybe from the same generation. But he comes from Adobe lineage. Yep. Which is a huge difference. I mean, makes a huge difference, as we're going to hear later on in the show. But this is what America feared Barack Obama may be. First, you tell us that it is manly to keep your word. All right. If you are a man, you keep your word. And now all of the black people in this country are demanding, and even the black people in the whole world are demanding, is that you keep your word.

42:12 You told us we were free. Well, then, show us that we're free. You told us that there is justice, equality for all in this country. Well, then, stick to your word and let us see the justice and equality for all. Or else admit to us that you're not a man. You're a word. You're afraid of us. You're afraid to give us equal stand. You're afraid that if you give us equal ground, that we will match you and we will override you. And if that's what you're afraid of us, then tell us that just what you're afraid of. But don't keep hiding it from us and holding this up to us. And every time we ask you for something, you give us a little bit of something. And it's all tokenism. We don't want tokenism. And there are most black men in this world that don't want charity.

42:58 And yet, so every time we ask you for something, you give us a little piece, a little piece. You're playing games with us. We're not children. We're big men. I've seen my father have to put up with all kinds of stuff. He was a big man. He raised a family. He went down south and he had to go around to the back door with his wife. We're not asking for anything. We're not asking for any favors. All we want is what's ours. Yeah. Yeah. So, of course, that so that's what they're afraid of. Or him being when you're that kind of black man or raised by that kind of black man as my this sounds a lot like my father. I'm just gonna say that as in

43:43 I did everything right and you still want to mess with me and they thought that's behind that smile of Obama and the cool as a cucumber demeanor right was was lying that um now other people had other things that you know that we talked about you know uh terrorists things that nature but I believe in black people's minds we thought white people had that fear and that's where a lot of criticism came from so when you wanted to criticize him you were aligning yourself with that thought wow I hope I made myself clear yeah yeah it's totally clear what But you also understand that I think that that was much less in people's minds.

44:25 I understand the undercurrent. No, no, no. I'm just explaining to you why he was given a pass and couldn't be criticized. Of course, of course. White people didn't want to appear that way as I just, what I just laid out. And black people didn't want to appear aligned with that. So it's like, no, no, no. Very delicate. Yeah, very delicate balance, but it worked. Yes. And he knew how to navigate that very well to not play the race car, but just like flash it. Like, let you know I got it. I'm not going to play it. Pow, there it is. Just a little corner. Right. So as we learn more and more about Barry, we get to see he's the third thing from that.

45:11 I mean, and I guess the people that put him in power knew that. So you're like, you don't want to have a black man with the new codes. I mean, like, anything might happen. But they felt safe that he wouldn't be that way. And it's maybe because of his upbringing background. To look into his upbringing background, we're going to jump right into it. We have a throwback clip from Judge Joe Brown on Barry. Has anybody black ever gone and checked out who it is anyway, huh? He went through school is Barry Sotoro. His stepfather and adoptive father, Lolo L O L O Sotoro, died as one of the 20 richest men on the planet earth.

46:01 Obama is beneficiary of a trust fund along with his two half siblings. He is probably the richest man to ever occupy the White House. Lolo Sotoro was a major in the Indonesian Army and a contractor with the CIA. What Daddy did was run death squads for the Indonesian government. He was an executive vice president for Standard Oil. And when he decided to set up his own company in Indonesia, where possibly the world's largest oil reserves are located, I imagine he used his position of having an active death squad at his disposal to facilitate some of his business deals.

46:50 And now, interestingly enough, there are documented moments between George Herbert Walker Bush, who was head of the CIA at the time, and Lolo Sotoro have certain arrangements. They were frequent golf partners. And Lolo Sotoro used Goldman Sachs as his American financier or financial banking institution. Yeah, it was really interesting to see that Wikipedia does not have any of that information on Lolo Sotero.

47:28 No, actually, you can't find any information on Harley. I mean, as Judge Joe Brown said in further clips, and if you want to hear more about that, go back to show 14. But as you said in clips after that, that he had to go to page 1415 on Google just to, you know, on the Google search just to find anything on Lolo. Yes, exactly. Well, luckily, that was poor auto quality because I think Judge O Brown was being interviewed in a restaurant over dinner. He did a studio interview and he shared more details on this not well-publicized past of Barack Obama. And I will say this: Judge Joe Brown, he's a very serious person.

48:12 I mean, he's a judge. I mean, I don't take him to be a hater. I mean, because that's the word, right? I mean, he's not Obama hater, but if you do your homework, you'll start to find some of these things have a lot of validity to them. So I guess we can get into the cleaner version, audio cleaner of Obama's past one. And the last one, number 44, and the one before that, 43, Bush and Obama. Well, there are pictures of Bush with his arm around eight-year-old Barack Obama because his stepdaddy, adopted daddy, Lolo Sotoro, had done a lifetime worth of business with the Bushes.

49:01 Uncle George Herbert Walker, after whom George Herbert Walker Bush, Bush warned president, was named, founded Halliburton in 1946 in Oklahoma. And Lolo Sotoro had been international. international executive vice president for Standard Oil. There was talk of him being a CIA asset. Well, yes, see, he ran the death squads for the Indonesian army on his own call. Anyone could be assassinated. So when George Herbert Walker Bush became head of the CIA under the Ford administration, he just got with his old buddy in the oil business, Lolo Sotoro, and pulled off the hits.

49:43 Oh, yeah. Well, so the reason why I'm laying this out is people like, well, so what does this have to do with anything? I want to lay this narrative out so when we listen to the clips after this, we can see it through the lens of possibly Barack Obama being a controlled asset slash, I hate to use this word because it's a loaded term, Manchurian candidate. I don't mean in the terms of he's going to go crazy and do something, but just being controlled from the onset. And having done a lot of this work for no agenda, it's probably worth mentioning that it's going to sound pretty crazy, but all of these connections really do make sense.

50:29 And you can find, and I'm putting stuff in the show notes right now about the Soteros and the Indonesian massacres between 65 and I think 1990. And this is not fantasy, and the CIA stuff is also, I think, demonstrably true. And the far more interesting facts and branch on that tree is the Dunhams. Yeah. And Dunham's maternal grandparents. Oh, yeah. I think his grandfather and grandmother had ties to governmental agencies. But I guess let's just go ahead and let Joe roll. He's on the roll, so let's let him continue.

51:10 Even some of the richest people in America don't make that. Why? Because when his stepdaddy died, he was one of the 10, 15 richest men on earth. And he left everything in a trust fund operated out of Indonesia so the American government can't touch it. That makes Barack Obama one-third beneficiary for the assets of one of the 10, 15 richest men on earth. See, so we got a game run on us. So, you know, that little thing that Bush W does when he gets with Michelle, they giggle and he gives a candy. The inside thing is that's supposed to be the same kind of candy he used to give to her husband when he was six, seven, eight years old.

51:52 Oh, wow, that's so creepy. I hadn't heard that one. I like that. Oh, yeah, they're always buddy-buddy. But yeah, the Soteros, and it's S-O-E-T-O-R-O. Right. They were all in the oil business with the Bushes. Same criminal enterprise. Yeah, because you got Zapato Oil. And I mean, you go down that way. I mean, that's a killer rabbit hole to go down if you start following that trail because this ties into many historical events. One being in Dallas, but I'll leave it at that. No, he can't remember. But, you know, George H. Walker Bush can't remember where he was on the day JFK was assassinated.

52:35 He's the only guy. He's just only guy who can't remember. I can't remember. How is that? And I will say this as just a point. George Bush Sr., let's just call him that, probably ran this country from, in my opinion, from 1980 onward until Trump got into office. I truly believe that to be so. He, I mean, because you think they said Reagan's mental capacity was diminishing even when he was in office.

53:14 Who was his vice president, George Bush? And then you hear the stories of Clinton and Bush, their connections. Yeah, they hold the whole Iran-Contra, Mina, Arkansas. Billy Boy was a soldier in the empire. Right. So like, you really didn't have a choice. If you think about it, you really didn't have a choice because if Clinton is Bush's guy and they're running against each other, either way, it's going to be ran by Bush. Then Bush runs his son against Clinton's vice president. And they kind of just called it like, now Bush won. I mean, pretty well. Forget the hanging Chad. The Supreme Court kind of called it. Right. Well,

53:59 who came in? I mean, I die. Yeah. Anyway, and then following that, you have Obama come in, which Obama has clear ties to George Bush Sr. So we, and if you notice how long the flag stayed at half staff, that lets you know how much pull George Bush Sr. had in this country. Oh, yeah. Massive. So I just want to say that because that's critical to what power structure Barack Obama really came from. Also, it makes it very understandable why my longtime CIA uncle had no problem voting for Barack Obama.

54:37 It's the same company, same organization. And that go even further, that goes to show you why the intelligence agencies really has one on for Donald Trump. You know, there's really no bigger man who's a conspiracy theorist than a black man who's a conspiracy theorist. This is cultural. Tell me it ain't true, Moe. This is cultural because there's so many going, you know, going back to, well, for me, Claudette Colvin, and there's so many of these, which would be, if I said that now, in public, people like, oh man, it's wrong with you. This is a conspiracy theory and nutjob. Because we always knew black ink existed.

55:16 And it's like, okay, who employs and empowers black ink? Yep. So it's like, so you have to question everything. Everything. It comes down because, like, what's your motive? Why are you trying to steer me? How are you trying to handle this? And this is why we clicked so well when we first started talking. You know, it's like, I think like that all the time. I just condition myself. That's what I do. But I didn't grow up necessarily having to do that or thinking that. But that's why we connect. I love it. Yeah. And that's how I had to grow up because it's like everybody smiles in your face at your friend. You get that kind of thing. Not to be distrusting of people, but you also, and this is why I said Barack Obama dropping out of the sky.

56:01 Yeah, that's like flag. That's a red flag right there. That goes totally against, just say, if we had a community, you want to know who's passing through your town, your, you know, your neighborhood. Who's he with? Who's he connected with? I mean, even old folks say that, like, who's his family? You know, where come from? I mean, that kind of thing. Who's he married? Who's his grandmother? He'd be like, oh, he's, yeah, he's like, oh, he's so-and-so Hamilton. Oh, I know those Hamiltons. They ain't no dude. So for him not to be vouched for and just showed up. And basically vetted. He wasn't vetted at all. Right. At all.

56:44 But in hindsight, we had to start doing some digging. And that's what Joe, Judge Joe Brown is doing. And we'll continue to do. But I will say this. Now, Jojo Brown is a huge proponent of black masculinity and black men. So if it was no fire there, he wouldn't say anything about the smoke. So obviously he has access to information that emboldens him to come out and say these things, knowing he could be, you know, removed if they're not true. So I just want to speak to the lack of his credibility. Yeah, the lack of pushback on him on that kind of shows that people are like,

57:25 quiet. Yeah, shut up. Shut up, Joe. Shut up, Joe. Well, we won't shut up, Joe, and we're going to let Joe continue in clip three. Barack's grandmother has been acknowledged as being the woman that operated the channels through which CIA money went to the Southwest Pacific. So she introduced her daughter, who had just had Barry Barack to Lolo Sotoro, and they got married. And Lolo Sotoro adopted Barack Obama. The name was changed to Barry Sotoro. Now, when he went to high school in Hawaii, I know about that high school. I almost sent my oldest son to it.

58:09 I could afford it, but I didn't think he deserved it. 20 years ago, the tuition was $95,000 a year, not including room and board. When Obama went there, I've talked to two of his classmates. They independently state that the tuition, not including room and board, was $45,000. Now, Business Insider reports his income for 2017 at over $200 million net. That's after taxes, deductions, write-offs. For this last year, 2018, they reported it as $570 plus million dollars. And that's after all deductions tax, right? Trump doesn't make that net.

58:51 Big Bank Barry. Nice. All right. Damn. So people say, well, Joe, it's not like you got to ask the grind. There's other people that were sounding these long. alarms, and this is from the other side of the political sphere. And this is CIA's four stages of completion. I know the released report has claimed that the 44th president of the United States is a CIA creation. American investigative journalist Wayne Madsen says Barack Obama, as well as his family, including his parents, stepfather, and grandmother, had connections with the CIA.

59:33 America, tonight, if you feel the same energy that I do, if you feel the same urgency that I am. Exceptional orator, promise for the disillusioned, and change from the status quo. These are all what helped Barack Obama to become president two years ago. But now the reality seems to be something far from that. And what is being called a bombshell, investigative journalist Wayne Madsen has revealed in a report that in 1983, President Obama worked for the Business International Corporation, which was a CIA front. The company used to conduct seminars with the world's most powerful leaders as agents abroad with CIA espionage activities. Madsen says this intelligence connection runs in Obama's family. Obama's maternal grandmother, Madeline Dunham, was one of the first female vice presidents of the Bank of Hawaii in Honolulu.

1:00:18 The report says this bank was also a CIA front for funneling money to oppressive dictators and rulers, such as former Indonesian President Suharto, who came into power through a CIA-backed coup. Yeah. Yep. No, I know. Having grown up in the Netherlands, I know a lot about the Indonesia story because it was a Dutch colony. Okay. And it's the lies lot there. Yeah, there is. And I'll say this: a lot of the topics I really don't dive into about him or around him because they're non-starters.

1:00:58 I mean, you have half the people they're going to believe whatever they believe, and the other half is going to be opposed to that. So, I mean, like, some of the stuff I didn't really get into, but the things that you can prove and it makes sense and how protective the intelligence agencies were of him just kind of explains itself. I mean, Operation Markingbird, media supporting him. Hello. I mean, it's quite clear what's going on here. But I'm laying this out to say, okay, if we look at, just say this is true, which I believe I wouldn't be presenting if I didn't think it was some truth to it.

1:01:41 Then we have to look at him totally different and how he was presented to us as that way. Because we talked about infiltration in all of the black established groups or groups that were established to so-called represent black people. So he's like a one-man entity, right? He's a one-man organization. Like he just was so polarizing that he drew people around him. And it's like now he has this huge protectorate, huge realm of protection around him that he was bulletproof. Yes. And they could use him to push any agenda that they wanted to. Yes.

1:02:24 Without any question. And I think David Axelrod had a big role in this. That was one of his campaign managers. Yep. Dick Durbin. Yes, Dick Durbin. And also John Brennan. I mean, John Brennan was, you know, he was kind of Obama's shadow guy, you know, always from very early on. Yeah. And Dick Durbin is the one, and Dick Durbin's the one that told by his admission, I didn't want to bloat the clip list too much, but just for this one little factoid, but he tells the story of, yeah, I told Barry after this speech that he gave, you're going to run for president or you need to run for president.

1:03:04 It's like he was told, and when you start to hear how his path was laid out for him, going to this certain district, and, you know, it's just like it was everything was laid out for him to be where he was at when he was there. The path was paved and that people got pushed out of the way quite harshly here and there. Yes. And I have the stories that support that. I bet you do. Yeah, Leila. But let's wrap up with the CIA narrative with the second 15. In the 1960s, Obama's father had been selected by the leader of Kenyan African National Union, Tom Mboya, to receive scholarship and be airlifted to the University of Hawaii.

1:03:48 CIA files indicate that Mboya was an important agent of influence for the agency. The airlift was a CIA operation to train future agents of influence in Africa, which was a battleground between the U.S. and U.S., the Soviet Union, and China for influence. As a Kenyan student in the University of Hawaii, Obama's father, who was already married and had a child with another on the way in Kenya, met Obama's mother and Dunham in a Russian class in Hawaii. This meeting eventually led to their marriage. Barack Obama's mother, Dunham, was divorced when his son was four. She married Lolo Satoro after meeting him at the East West Center at the University of Hawaii, the center affiliated with CIA activities in the Asia-Pacific region.

1:04:33 But we are. She worked for Tim Geithner's father Peter at the Ford Foundation. It's a better frame. He's widely believed to be a CIA front at our grand. Now, Mattson is questioning that if Barack Obama, as is suspected, was subjected to the CIA project either by brainwashing or being part of it, then it'll become problematic for an American president. He says if Obama has been brainwashed, then he can be controlled. And if he was simply a part of this project, then he can be bribed. I like hearing Tim Geithner in there, who later returned as the Secretary of the Treasury, I believe. Yes, they were childhood friends. Now, how that just works out, what are the chances? What's the chances that your childhood friend is qualified to be? Tim Geithner could not be more whitebred.

1:05:17 I mean, that's a total dweeby douche. So he was out there, too. Interesting. There's two points that were made here. One, there was his parents met in a Russian class. Yeah, that's a good idea. They have a Kenyan in Hawaii, all the way from Kenya to Hawaii. I think I'll say Russian. Why were they studying Russian for? Hmm. Could that, you know, could that have some Marxist slash communist undertones with it? Possible. Very possible. Could his mother be a honeypot, you know, that was put into those classes to see who she could net in?

1:05:57 You know, you have to ask these questions when you know how these organizations work. Well, also, the East-West Exchange, I'm just looking through some old CIA documents, was an exchange program between the United States and the USSR. So that makes sense why she would be in a Russian class. Right. And at the East West Center in Hawaii. Yes. With this key figure from Kenya. Oh, yeah. It's fantastic. It all fits. This part I didn't know. This is good. I like the East West Center stuff. That's good. I see Homeland. I know how it works. Yeah. It's really quite accurate.

1:06:41 Surprisingly accurate. Yes. Carrie does anything to get the job done. So you have Mr. Barack Obama Sr. Oh, one more thing. The Ford Foundation. Yeah. Which that comes up several times as some kind of CIA-connected organization or entity. So as an aside, the Ford, I was just doing some research today on Garza and what's her name, Ahmedi, the other two Black Lives Matter co-founders. Ahmedi and Colors.

1:07:19 Not colors. Colors of our. I'm done with colors. Colors is the magnet. Yeah, I went further into Garza, Garza, I think it is. Alicia. Alicia. Heavy, heavy funding from the Ford Foundation in a whole bunch of different nonprofits. And we're talking millions. Really, really interesting. You get me started, Mo, and I just go off and do my own homework just for myself. I mean, that's instead of watching TV. I'm like, let me investigate this. Now you see what? I know. You got rabbit fever. I know. I know. I know the fever. I know it. So, Barack Obama Sr., this mysterious character, this

1:08:02 kind of used and painted to however way they want to paint him. They wrote this interesting book on him. I think this is during the first term. But they give some background where there was none on Barack Obama Sr. And this is CNN, the other Barack Obama. He was part of Africa's independence generation and a brilliant economist. Yet he was also a polygamist and an alcoholic who ended up becoming the father of an American president. Barack Obama Sr. has been somewhat of a mystery to most, even to his own son, President Obama.

1:08:43 But biographer Sally Jacobs did the research and discovered unbelievable information about a man who lived a rather complicated life. Here to discuss her book, The Other Barack, the Bold and Reckless. Reckless Life of President Obama's Father is Sally Jacobs. Sally, thanks for coming on the show. First question to you: What inspired you to look into the life of Barack Obama Sr. Well, clearly, there was not a great deal known about him. As the campaign went on, it seemed that this was a person that we needed to know more about. There was a fair amount of information out there public about the president, would-be president's mother, but the father was an unclear figure.

1:09:24 Oh, okay. I'm looking at this author, by the way. I want to see what her deal is. Please do, because Sally sounds like a spook. Sally does sound like she's in the basement there tapping up some books for the agency. Okay. But the disdain they have for Mr. Barack Obama Sr. is going to be even more. He's an alcoholic and a polygamist. Right, right. She basically read the Amazon review. I just looked at it. That's exactly what it's like. I want to ask this question. And you're going to see how much disdain this is what you would call Karens. Two Karens. I hate to use that term, but it's kind of fitting here.

1:10:09 Watch how they tear down Barack Obama Sr. First, leaning off with he's a polygamist and an alcoholic, right? Right. This is a question I always had. What is the difference between a polygamist and somebody in a polyamory or polyamorous polyamorous polyamorous relationship? And why is one acceptable than the other? I'm just going to put that out there. But they notice, if you could spend this, if he was a favorable character, they could say, oh, he was in a, how do you say that word again? Polyamorous. Polyamorous. Polyamory. He was in a polyamorous relationship. They would say this. They would say he was in a polyamorous relationship. And he's often struggled, battled with

1:10:54 control substance abuse. Right. See how they paint? You see how the media paints things? That's so good. Well, I'm just looking up, just looking up some terms here. So polyamory, many, several, and MOR, love, practice of, or desire for intimate relationships with more than one partner. Okay, now let's look up polygamy. Just make sure we see the practice customer having more than. Oh, that's really the marriage part. Okay. But they have marriage. They have marriages now with polyamorous marriages. Sure. And I'll just, I mean, this, like I said, I know I'm going off, but I just want to address these things that we come across them: that if it's centered with the man, it's wrong.

1:11:42 But if a woman says she wants two husbands, it's always good. Always a winner. I just don't think it's very accepting of them to cast this man in this way. Yes, they should check their damn privilege is what they should do. Right. They should really check their relationships. Yeah, definitely. Well, let's continue on with Bashing Barack. You mentioned in your book that there was a chance and actually some evidence that he actually wanted to put his son, now President Obama, up for adoption. What can you tell us about that? What I found is that in his immigration document, there is a memo in which Obama Sr.

1:12:22 tells the foreign student advisor at the University of Hawaii, where he was enrolled, that his wife Ann Dunham was making arrangements with the Salvation Army to put their baby up for adoption. The baby was unborn at the time. Did they actually do that? It's unclear. Ann Dunham had every reason to do it. She was 18 years old. She was having a mixed-race baby at a time that intermarriage was very rare. On the other hand, it didn't seem to be the kind of thing she would do. She took her responsibility seriously. Obama Sr. had every reason to put the baby up for adoption. At the time, he was renewing his visa or hoping to. If immigration officials saw him as a polygamist with a mixed-race baby, that might not have been the best profile to put forward.

1:13:05 Yet, family members have said that they don't believe there was ever any evidence or any thoughts about putting Barack Obama up for adoption. But do you believe that they were actually considering it, given the evidence that you've seen? I think it's more likely that Obama Sr. told them that to make them think that the baby was going to vanish. It gave a cleaner profile for him to immigration officials. The only thing I do wonder about is that he said the Salvation Army, the Salvation Army, did have a maternity home in Honolulu. It's interesting to me that he mentioned that. Maybe they talked about it, didn't go ahead with it. I don't think they made arrangements to actually do it, though. You see how they gave the mom a pass? Oh, yeah. Oh, it's.

1:13:50 pay attention to it. She did everything right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Exactly. Batman Black. Wow. Wow. Wow. By the way, this Sally H. Jacobs, this is the only book she ever wrote. Yes, Sally. That's the only book she wrote. She hadn't written any other books. Interesting. But she's a touted reporter. This smacks of a hit piece. And he's not like his father. And to illustrate, I know people are like, man, Mo, you're kind of reaching there. It's that you're going to hurt yourself. You're reaching. No, you're reaching. You're reaching right up in my field here. I'm loving the reach. Well, listen to this next clip, part three.

1:14:31 He speaks so sweetly about his mother. Do you think if he was raised by his father, he would be president today? You know, this is certainly speculative myself. I think it would be unlikely. Obama Sr. was a very brilliant and brave person in some respects. He was extremely self-destructive also. I think he wasn't a very nurturing person and was rather self-absorbed. I think Obama Jr. might have chosen a very different life, would be a different person in many respects if he'd grown up with that kind of a paternal figure. Oh, geez. Did you hear that? Oh, yeah. Excuse me. If his dad raised him. Please check your female privilege there. Holy crap.

1:15:15 Oh, man. If his dad, that's a hell of a question. If his dad raised him, he would. I think he would have been told this. No, no. No, no, not at all. Even though his dad came from Kenya to come all the way to Harvard by way of Hawaii, basically pulled himself up by his bootstraps. I mean, that's the way the story is written. Nah, he, nah. So this must have been Stanley's business. It's Stanley. It's all Stanley. And you heard he writes lovingly of Stanley. So, but dad, not so much. I guess let's just go ahead and let they're going to finish him off. Let's finish bashing Barack.

1:15:57 Anything positive, anything redeeming about Obama Sr.? Absolutely. For starters, he was hugely successful in one sense. He made it from a very poor, simple childhood in Western Africa to Harvard. You know, he was really a brilliant economist. Also, his story was deeply entwined with that of Kenya of the moment. He was a fierce advocate for the African people. He was not happy with the way the government was going, and he spoke out very boldly against the administration of Joe Mo Kenyata. He did not feel that the little man was getting his fair due, and Obama Sr. was very courageous about that at some personal risk.

1:16:36 And just very quickly, what do you think President Obama will think of this book of yours about his father? I think he'll find a lot that he didn't know in it. I cannot imagine it would be a very easy book to read, but I think any child who doesn't know their parent might want to know the true story about him. That's my hope. Wow. Wow. What a great move. What a great move. Don't look over here. This is dead end. Any redeemable qualities. That's what she said about the man. Well, he was a brilliant economist. They keep reminding us. He was truly a brilliant economist, but obviously, you know, he was so brilliant that he was just a total loser and a failure.

1:17:18 And he was a rabble-rouser, so that's always good. Yeah, if you want to stir up trouble in Kenya, so that they're all for that. But then she says, will he, you know, what would you think of what would Barack Obama think about the book about his father? And she said, I think he'll find a lot of surprises, which that surprised me because the way the narrative went, Barack Obama wrote a tell-all book about his dad. Yeah. The dreams from my father. So I would think he would have more information than Sally, unless Sally has some resources. Some resources that we are not aware of. Right. Barack don't have the files that she does.

1:17:59 Gordon Hurt. And speaking of that book, we have Barack reading from The Dreams of My Excuse me, Dreams from My Father. There was only one problem. My father was missing. And nothing that my mother or grandparents could tell me could obviate that single unassailable fact. Their stories didn't tell me why he had left. They couldn't describe what it might have been like had he stayed. Like the janitor, Mr. Reed, or the black girl who churned up dust as she raced down a Texas road. My father became a prop in someone else's narrative. The alien figure with the heart of gold, the mysterious stranger who saves the town and wins the girl, but a prop nonetheless.

1:18:43 Wow, some honesty honesty there. there. But a prop nonetheless. Wow. Wow. That's brutally honest, really. Brutally honest. In context, great to hear that. So we've seen his dad get bashed. Now, let's listen to, in comparison, how they lavish praise on Ann Dunham. We are backing now to our occasional series of reports on the presidential candidates' families. Looking tonight at Senator Barack Obama, who's made his life story and his upbringing a part of his campaign. He's written and spoken openly about the mother who raised him, the father who left him, both of whom, of course, left behind a big impression. NBC's Lee Cowan has our report tonight on family ties.

1:19:28 I have not had my parents now for over a decade. The beginning of Barack Obama's improbable journey began with an improbable union. An African man named Barack and a white Kensan named Stanley Ann wed at the dawn of the 60s when interracial marriages were still illegal in many places. It lasted, though, just three short years, and their lives not much longer. Obama's father was killed in a car accident in Africa in 1982. His mother, stricken with ovarian cancer, died in 1995. It would be wonderful to have the counsel of parents. It would be wonderful to be able to admit mistakes

1:20:12 or just get some encouragement. Instead, he has to rely on what they left him, and each left him something very different. Obama's father abandoned him at age two. He left first for Harvard and eventually returned to his native Kenya. To this day, the elder Barack remains an example for the younger, but of how not to live. Wow. Still bashing dad. That story was set, man. That's beautiful. That narrative was crafted, creative, posted on Wikipedia, and good to go. Now, Adam, ask me why that narrative was set that way. You know, Mo, I'd like to ask you, why did they set the narrative that way?

1:20:55 So he could identify, well, so black males could identify with him of not having a father. White single mothers could identify with him, with his mother, and with him. And makes him also, you know, a little less scary. Yeah, relatable. And not calm down. He's a black man, but he was raised in the comforts of white society. So the anger, you don't have to worry about. He's all right. He's okay. And at the same time, they had to paint him as a poor black kid from Chicago. This, the product, that's a Brock. I like the poor black kid from Chicago bit.

1:21:36 That's the funniest one. When I was on the South Side. Yeah, that's the. They tried to do it with the same thing with Kamala Harris, right? Being from Oakland. She's from Oakland. I brought that up like, no, no, she's not from Oakland. Maybe, but not the Oakland, like you're using that term. So it's the same thing. It's like. She's not Kamala from the block in Oakland. Right. So you see how they're setting this up that it's and is the good and Brock is bad and he's a single product of a single parent home grow up on the south side of Chicago with a white mom.

1:22:13 Yeah. I mean, this is the narrative. If you ask people that are not studied on Barack Obama, they'd say, oh, he's from Chicago. It's like, not Kansas, not these other places. Hawaii. His roots Kansas. Exactly. His roots are. Actually, he's... To be honest, if I'm looking at his roots coming from his mom's side, he's part of the, he's a white supremacist. Obama's got a lot of rich royal blood in them veins. And he's like 14 cousins with Dick Cheney. So obviously, okay. Black child, but not from Linux Slavery.

1:22:57 Mom named Stanley. His name's Hussein, who's got a cousin that's going to be vice president one day. And he's lucky enough to make president. And you know, the Bush is this a great country or what, Mo. Oh, man. Look at what's possible. It's crazy. I'm taking the under on that. I mean, as far as that happening, just out of the under, yeah. Right. So let's continue with the NBC. Nothing traditional. I watch myself for some of the things that I know ended up hurting him.

1:23:38 Too much pride. an inability to listen to other people. Those are things that I guard against in myself. But in that fatherless void stood his young mother, who remained more influential than anyone. For example, when Brian Williams showed him on the cover of Newsweek for the very first time, the senator's reaction was not about himself. You know, it makes me think of my mom and the fact that, you know, she's not around. We're all Obamacare. Obama's half-sister, Maya, remembers that there was little traditional about their mother. I think it is interesting to look at the patterns: how our mother started in the Midwest and ended up in Indonesia, and how he started in Hawaii in essence and returned to the Midwest.

1:24:25 Remember that? And friends who knew Stanley Ann early see her in him all the time. The passion he brings. I think a lot of that's something he learned from his mother's knee. Senses that stop when he needed them most. When I was writing that speech on race, I'm the son of a black man from Kenya and a white woman from Kansas. Her memory loomed over me. Is this something that she would trust? A reality check, he still sees. You know, at night, if I'm saying a prayer, you know, I send out maybe a little message to my mother, and hopefully she's somewhere and can hear it.

1:25:05 You know, of course, without Mo Facts, I never would have caught what was going on here. This was totally shaping him to be completely relatable to the black man as well. I mean, just by the parental situation and then totally pushing all of that towards how great his mom was. I mean, solidifying the matriarchal structure is genius. What I always say about our community, it's a matriarchy. It's just not a patriarchy. So to get black women to buy in, they had to relate to them on the single parent level.

1:25:50 And we even heard on a previous show, Michelle Obama referred to herself as a single mother at one point. So that was one of my favorites. I mean, they're pushing that narrative of single mothers, single child. I happen to have that. If you want to get an esoteric, you can have that clip if you want to hear Floatus say it for a second. Please, please. Looking at new models of getting farmers' markets to, you know, create buses and drive into communities that are underserved. So we have to deal with the question of access. And believe me, as a busy single mother, or I should say single, as a busy mother.

1:26:35 Whoops. It's the narrative. And they know the narrative they're pushing. Yeah, it's in the back of her mind, and the truth just came out. Oh, crap. Wasn't supposed to say that. Exactly. So I found some video from the Ann Dunham Sorrado Endowment Fund, and I just thought it would be interesting just to hear a little take on that. Our mother was a scholar, and she believed very much in learning from books. And she could spend hours in a library, but she also believed in learning from people who are committed to honing their craft, from people who walk in the streets.

1:27:13 And she felt like the whole world was a classroom. When Ann Dunham Saitoro applied for her PhD in anthropology at the University of Hawaii at Manoa, she had already invested significant time and energy to improve the quality of life for craftspeople in rural Indonesia. In the introduction to her dissertation is what I found a very interesting statement. She said, this work is the result of 14 years of research in Java. And it was perfectly true. She knew that place inside out. And was driven by the desire to partner with others to create lasting change.

1:27:51 While working at the Ford Foundation and the United States Agency for International Development, she collaborated closely with a range of non-governmental organizations to support programs addressing women and poverty. USAID is the big tip off. The Ford Foundation, of course, but the USAID is, that is the United States International Aid Division. That's where we fund non-governmental organizations in countries from that, who are there, of course, sending back intelligence. That's the fund. That's the one you want the money from. And his mother reminds me a lot of, and her name slips my mind, just that.

1:28:34 that fast. Wrote for 16 magazine. What is her name? It'll come to me. Okay. Big time feminist in the 60s. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yes, of course. The CIA woman. We both know her name. Was it Anita Bryant? No. No, it was the other one. It was Gloria Steinem. That's it. Yes. His mom gives me the Gloria Steinem vibe. Oh, yeah, I can see that. Absolutely. Remember when the CIA came to her and like, can you write for her? Oh, yeah. I know Gloria Steinem was and then the age makes sense. Oh, right on.

1:29:14 Right. A good guy. Gloria Steinem, absolutely known. She was a CIA agent. She admits it. Or agent. She was an operative. She did stuff for them. Yeah. So we're fast forwarding from his childhood. I mean, we know about, we went through how he was raised in Indonesia and Kansas. And we fast forward to him going to college. And at Harvard, we have an eyewitness account from Dr. Randy Short, which we played some clips from him before. And I like to call him Dr. Messi because he always gives us something more, even further than what you would expect from him with his shocking insight on Obama at Harvard.

1:29:56 But I think he was placed here. I don't think we elected him. I think he was selected. He was selected. And I saw him being selected 29 years ago walking through the law school on a weekend. How Obama manipulated the white students to make him head of the Harvard Law Review in exchange for him to stab all the black students in the back. And I happened to stumble into a meeting of the Federalist Society. And what I heard was a man saying how much he hated black people and how black people were stupid and how they were despicable and how he could control them.

1:30:35 And he knew how they felt about him. And I was listening to this person, and I'm telling you, my spirit I discerned it was a black man about six foot six one, bisexual, biracial. So I walked quickly through the Harkins Common, which is a student unit at the law school, and saw Obama. The audience turned and looked at me. We looked at each other. I was so angry at the stuff he said about black folks, but I realized, wow, I'm outnumbered. What difference did that make? So I stormed out the building and I asked some people, who's the mulatto in there? He relys like Richard Nixon on crack. He's going to be president. Who is that?

1:31:12 And that's where I heard the name Obama. And that if he were made head of the Harvard Law Review, he would keep the blacks in check for the most ultra-conservative agenda, whatever they wanted to do. He said, because black people would look at him and they trust him, although he wasn't fun of them. Wow. Who is Randy? He's a radio guy, right? Randy Short? Yeah, no, Dr. Randy Short, he's a doctor, and he's the one that broke the news on our show about the Depo Vera shot. Oh, yes. Harming black women. Right. So he's, you know, he's a considered, you know, a valuable resource in the quote-unquote black

1:31:56 conscious community or black non-mainstream community. I like conscious community. That's a good one. I like that. So Randy here, he gives a statement on Barack Obama. And I'm just going to take it on face value. I'm not going to say, I don't have no reason not to believe him, but that's a very inflammatory statement. But it aligns with his membership in Skull and Bones, which you said before about him being a white supremacist. Well, the Skull and Bones is the preeminent club. By the definition that we use of white supremacy, it is the club. And he's not in the black man's Skull and Bones, which we call the Boule.

1:32:41 He's actually in the Skull and Bones. The Illuminati. The Illuminati versus he has to have some understandings of how this world has to work to be in that group. So I think he, this is why he's such a moderate because on one side, he's been pulled in one direction to the right, but then to maintain his cover or maintain his credibility, he has to

1:33:18 level himself off by the left. And that's the reason why I think he chose Chicago as his home, one of the blackest cities in America outside of Detroit, maybe Washington, D.C. His wife has strong roots in the community. Her father has strong roots in the community. So it just made sense. And then he needs to start building up on those credentials. You have Oprah there. I don't know how connected they were, how long the connection goes back, but it is a connection. I think there was a path. There were people there who saw a pathway within the state government that would be a pathway for Obama to be because I mean, the Democrats pretty much run Chicago.

1:33:58 We said this before, the kind of power they have. So pretty much whoever they want to win certain elections, they could give him the win. But he made this Lori Lightfoot. I mean, that just proves it, doesn't it? Yeah. So I think he had to ingrain himself in Chicago society, and that brings him to Reverend Wright's church. Yes. The angels in heaven were singing God. The controversy started with words spoken by the Reverend Jeremiah Wright in his sermons. In one of them, he blames America for a long history of military policies that he says caused the September 11th, 2001 terrorist attacks.

1:34:41 We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we knew far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon. And we never better than I. Most Americans would not normally have heard about these sermons without Reverend Wright's connection to Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama. Wright is the retired pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ, where Obama is a member. Obama has called Wright his spiritual mentor and the man who brought him to Christ. But once the fiery pulpit remarks were made public in March and widely disseminated on the internet, Obama condemned them. In a speech, he called Wright's view of the U.S. profoundly distorted. Reverend Wright commented on that Monday.

1:35:25 Politicians say what they say and do what they do based on electability, based on sound bites, based on polls. Wright says the black church is invisible and misunderstood by what he called the dominant culture, meaning white America. I said this is not an attack on Jeremiah Wright, it has nothing to do with Senator Obama. It is an attack on the black church launched by people who know nothing about the African-American religious tradition. This, I think this, this revelation was one of the first videos, I believe, to kind of go what we then wouldn't have even known what to call it, but viral on YouTube.

1:36:05 And that's why it had to be addressed. I mean, of course, there were some media outlets playing it, questioning it. I think they already were prepared for it, but people had questions. And so they had to build something around that and smother this, I guess. And with the Reverend Wright situation, this with that fear of the angry black man again. It's like, oh, this is the kind of preacher he's that's yes, now I get the angry black man bit. Yeah, that scared people. The way Wright was talking. Yeah, that scared people. So I'm just saying. So two things he said there. One, he said that people don't understand the black church.

1:36:49 When I heard this, I was like, I heard that before. I mean, it wasn't shocking to me. I think this is part of why people congregate the way they do. Because certain truths are certain things that are perceived to be true by that community can be voiced without repercussion, right? It's like, okay, when I went in church, looking around, okay, it's not with black people. All right, now we can talk. All right, now we can go. It's the barbershop effect. The same thing, right? You can look around, like, oh, okay, now we can really let loose. So when he said that, it didn't really, I'm like, it's nothing I never heard before.

1:37:33 I mean, coming from that type of preacher, because not every preacher is like that, but you have those fire and brimstone people that bring that kind of narrative. Sure. What I want to do is, and this is only we can do it on shows like this. I want to listen to Reverend Wright's comments because all you heard was goddamn America. We never really saw the full thing unless even YouTube was clipped just to say the horrible things. Yeah. That's why we have a podcast so we can roll it all out. So I want to hear this almost a minute and 30-minute portion of that sermon in context so you could hear what he was actually saying.

1:38:17 And the United States of America government, when it came to treating her citizens of Indian descent fairly. fairly, she failed. She put them on reservations. When it came to treating her citizens of Japanese descent fairly, she failed. She put them in internment prison camps. When it came to treating the citizens of African descent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains. The government put them on slave quarters, put them on action auction blocks, put them in cotton fields, put them in inferior schools, put them in substandard housing, put them in scientific experience,

1:38:59 put them in the lowest paying jobs, put them outside the equal protection of the law, kept them out of their racist bastions of higher education and locked them into positions of hopelessness and helplessness. The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law, and then wants us to sing God bless America. No, no, no. Not God bless America. God damn America that's in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating her citizens as less than humans. God damn America, as long as she tries to act like she is God and she is supreme.

1:39:43 Oh, okay. Yeah. So hopefully that puts his statement into context. He just didn't come out the back saying goddamn America. It could take longer, but this is like find people find people on both sides. I mean, if you only see a little bit and you don't get the whole context, everything that was said, then you really miss out on what he was saying, which obviously, how can you disagree with up until he starts goddamn America? But even that makes sense in context. But in the full context, because I didn't want to make it a three-minute clip, what he was saying was by the standard of the Bible, all these kingdoms in the Bible that didn't do the people right, God took them.

1:40:26 God damn them. And in the literal term, he like firing brimstone. Okay, well, pillar assault, wipe them out the face of the earth. This is really telling. And I wanted to add to that, he was reading that. I heard him do a prompter flub twice. Yeah. I'm sure he goes off of a prompter all the time. But I mean, it's not like he's just a fiery preacher who comes out of his, you know, straight from God to his mouth, but he was reading it. But it's kind of, it's kind of sad. I mean, there comes the angry black man bit, I guess, because what he's saying is totally on message for what we've discussed and what we see as the problem.

1:41:13 But he had to go. He had no idea. He was probably seen as an asset who would really help. And somehow, I'm just going to go out on a limb. Maybe Fox News or one of these outfits just started slamming the crap out of the goddamn America, goddamn America. And that became the narrative. And he had to go. Then he had to go. Then he's like, you got to go. Sorry. Obama even came to his defense a little bit in the beginning, if I recall. He did until it got too hot. And I'm sure the Democratic Party was like, hey, you got to let him.

1:41:52 You got to let him go. But Barack Obama wouldn't be the person that he was politically if he wasn't anchored by that same church in Chicago. So it's like it gives him one hand, it takes him the other. How did he do that? I think Reverend Wright, what's that? How did he do that? What happened to Reverend Wright? Did he just melt away into the background? Yeah, he, I mean, once nobody's above Barack Obama. So once he was bad for Barack Obama, he was bad for black people, and he was cast away. Now, Reverend Wright has some interesting background himself because he was like a nurse or something for one of the presidents or something.

1:42:30 So it's like when you hear this man talk, if you want to look that up, it's on, I think it's on his wiki page, but when you hear this man talk about goddamn America, it's not like he's some person that hates America or never believed in it. I think when black men get to a certain age, they get no disillusion. Like I put all my energy into being a good, like the man was saying, the fear of the angry black man. Like, we did everything right. And you say you, you, to be a man, you got to keep your word. You said it's an equal country.

1:43:09 What's the problem? Right, right. But yeah, Reverend Wright has government. He was in the military and he, there's a picture of him and one of the presidents. I can't. Well, maybe he actually served three presidents. presidents. He's three. I know there was one for sure, but Johnson. He served Johnson. That's the nurse part. And he also worked with Bill Clinton, of course. But they made him seem like this Farrakhan figure. Wow. And, you know, that's so interesting. In my mind, I had written Reverend Jeremiah. First of all, Reverend. So, you know, we know where he's coming from.

1:43:53 He knows what side the bread's buttered on. If I don't mind me saying that. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. But can't deny that the message was right. I mean, it would. I bet I'm more convinced now than ever that he was supposed to be a part of it and just screwed up, had to go. Yes, but this is Barack going back to the right. Like I said, he had to walk the center line. And you got the Reverend Aris. I mean, not Reverend Aaron, but the Bill Aris thing floating around all out in the ether. And then now you got this angry Farrakhan type preacher saying, God damn America. It's like, hey, hey, hey, like, slow it down, Brock. You need to write a speech and smooth things over.

1:44:37 Well, not write one. You need to read one. Yeah, well, read one. So Barack Obama, I mean, excuse me, we have a clip of Larry Elders. He's talking about this sweet path that was laid out for Barack Obama. I mean, we got to consider Larry Elders. He's a conservative. So, I mean, obviously, he has an obvious bone to pick with Barack Obama. But I think this is a fair assessment of how things were laid out for Barry. Obama misled Americans for his own political benefit. David Axelrod writes in his new book, I'm just not very good at bull. Obama told Axelrod. Axelrod writes that he knew Obama was in favor of same-sex marriage. Axelrod admits to counseling Obama to conceal his position for political reasons.

1:45:22 End of quote. Let's get back to it. So Obama then moves to Chicago. Not from there. He joins the Trinity Church because of his desire for political connections. And he decides to run for state senate because the incumbent decided to run for another office. She changes her mind, decides to keep her office. Obama says, I'm sorry, I'm staying in the race. Obama then challenged all the signatures he had to file to run for re-election and essentially got her kicked off the ballot. So Obama won without any opposition. Then Obama decides to challenge Bobby Rush for Congress. He primaries him. And Bobby Rush, the former Black Panther, kicks Obama's butt.

1:46:01 How and why? Because he characterizes Obama as not truly black, from Harvard, taught at University of Chicago, carpetbagger, not really from Chicago, doesn't really understand the culture, yada blah, et cetera. Obama even complained about it. So what did Obama do when he got his butt kicked? He redesigned his state Senate district to make it more white, more affluent, more Jewish, less black, less poor. Explain to me how racism has hurt this man. And then he decides to run for U.S. Senate. And he's not likely to win, but little by little by little, scandal and other things knock off the front runners. He runs. And he wins. And that was Axelrod.

1:46:43 Axelrod brought out all the dirt on his opponents. Yeah. And so Axelrod and this gay hiding his true views on gay rights. That whole Joe Biden coming out first instead of Barack, that was all planned. Because Barack just couldn't, for lack of a better term and no pun intended, just come out the closet and say, hey, I'm for gay marriages now. So it's like, hey, Joe, you go out there. Why don't you slip it out? Slip it out of me. Right. You out me. And then I'm like, what am I going to do? Right. Well, that's that was planned, in my opinion.

1:47:22 Well, that's an interesting take because the way I always saw it was Joe was such a bumbling fool that he spilled it accidentally. And now that I'm reconsidering this, thank you. I think you're right. But you know what? Joe still probably wasn't part of the plan. No, that was like, Joe, whatever. Joe, whatever you do, don't talk about the gay marriage thing. Joe, don't talk about. Joe, do not talk about the gay marriage thing. So Joe talks about the gay marriage thing. And boom. And then Barack was like, oh, well, yeah, you know, all the legislation was ready. They had everything good to go. And it was real. I'm going to agree with. I'm going to agree with you. And it was real touch and go there in that reelection because of the black church.

1:48:07 Because of it, yeah. It was a civil war in the black church over Obama. Over the same-sex marriage? marriage? Yes. Because it's like, are we really putting Obama above Jesus? I mean, that was the other country. In the trilogy on the wall. I mean, does he hang above MLK? Does he hang right next to Jesus? Well, JFK comes down and Obama goes. Obama goes to the story. Yeah, you got to keep MLK and Jesus. Well, I mean, that's the, well, that's the, that's the liberal feminist wall. Okay. On the on the on the general black wall.

1:48:49 It's still Jesus, MLK, and Obama. Barack Obama. But that Civil War did happen because it's like people that are Bible-based believers. We're not that. I don't care what you, I don't care what Obama said. But at the same time, it was, well, we, the second term, you know, we got to get the second term. This is really what this is when he's going to. We didn't come this far. You know what I'm saying? Keep your eyes on the prize. Yeah. Keep going. Push, push. Let's go. It's important. He's going to do stuff for us. Yep. And then the role laid out for him. I want to say this one thing:

1:49:28 I truly believe we saw trading places happen in real life with Barack Obama and Senator Edwards from North Carolina. I truly believe that's the only competition Barack Obama really had, and he really stole his identity. If you really look at this, really. Yeah, look at what's not Harry. I'm about to say Harry Edwards, not Harry Edwards. I'm not off with the names today, but Edwards, he had the perfect hair. He was like the JFK reincarnated. But then that story came out. His wife. Yeah, John Edwards. John Edwards. They removed John Edwards. Oh, yeah. They canceled him over a haircut. Remember that? Yeah, they canceled him over that, but they were looking for anything to get rid of him.

1:50:13 Oh, yeah. Because he stood in Barack Obama's way. He was a disrespect. He cheated on his wife. He stole campaign funds, had a $300 haircut in his airplane on the runway. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. They went up for him. But prior to Barack Obama, he was the favorite to be president. Really? He needed to be. Yeah. Yeah. He does have to be eliminated. He stepped right into his shoes and was like, oh, yeah, I'm the guy for every American. Yeah. I really believe that. And the reason why I say trading places because that's kind of how the movie went, right? They took the one guy out, white guy out. Yeah. Put Eddie in. And then they were like, see, Mortimer, I pray to you.

1:50:51 $1. Exactly. Yeah, $1. Good point. So they talk about the narrative of the gay rights, but this is other narrative that they had to keep running. And that's the slave narrative. Ah. Or his connection to slavery. Yes. His legitimacy. When it hit me, because I like, okay. I was all for Obama because I saw where the money was coming from funding him. I was like, they're not giving him that kind of money if he's going to be a real revolutionary type figure. Because all the banks is lined up, you know what I'm saying? Had the blank checks ready, like whatever you need. And that's when I was like, I don't know about this guy.

1:51:35 And just as a small story, I was in Chicago actually the day that he won the nomination. It was me and my brothers. We were on a road trip. And it's just like, I have a connection there, right? It's just like I was in Chicago. Sure. That must have been great. That must have been a great. And we were actually at this little bar. And it was like, everybody was just happy. I mean, I never remember people being, it was a black establishment. So it was just like a sense of pride. So I get how people get sucked in. But I mean, that's just, I just wanted to say that point. But the slavery net, what hit me was, I remember when he won, and I woke up the next morning and I saw a picture of this little old lady and it said, from slavery to the White House.

1:52:17 I was like, Barack Obama ain't never been no slave. Uh-huh. But they weren't talking about. Oh, y'all are nudging me. I mean, before I knew what a nudge was, but I just felt this, oh, y'all are playing with us. So this whole narrative, and then people start getting hip. Like, he's not really one of us. I mean, that's what Robbie Rush was saying, right? And when he ran against him, he's not really one of us. So there was this concerted effort to keep Barack Obama tied to slavery. And if they couldn't do it through him, they did it through Michelle. This morning, we are learning fascinating details of Michelle Obama's roots.

1:52:59 Today's New York Times traces her family's five-generation path from slavery to the White House. We're joined this morning by JFK. genealogist Megan Smolignak, who uncovered Mrs. Obama's family tree. Good morning. Good morning. This is almost like a mystery. We knew for certain that on her father's side of the family that traced back to slavery, but there were rumors about on her mother's side. How did you make the connection and who was the key person? Well, I'll tell you, I worked back methodically generation by generation, but of all her ancestors, the one who called to me the most loudly was one named Melvinia, who was a great, great, great-grandmother.

1:53:40 Right. And she was just fascinating. For example, I found a code to sill on her from 1850 where she's first mentioned. She's only six years old. And in that document, her first owner, a fellow by the name of David Patterson, is leaving her to his wife when he passes away. There it is. I mean, there is the actual will and testament. And this little girl is named, she's six years old. She's also listed in another, I mean, it is listed as a piece of property. What is her value? $475. Oh, man. Wow, they got it all. That's fantastic. From $475 to $500 million. Yep. Property, she's property, but nobody questioned Michelle's lineage to slavery.

1:54:23 I mean, that wasn't a question, so they had to keep digging. And then they found a new discovery of Obama's ancestry. President Obama's story is well known. His father from Kenya, his mother from the United States. But Ancestry.com says it has mapped out the Obama family tree going back 11 generations with stunning conclusion. Anastasia Harmon is the company's lead family historian. Our conclusion is that President Obama, the first African-American president, is the 11th great grandson of the first documented enslaved African in what would become the United States. The link is made not from his father's side, but from his mother. Ann Dunham's lineage.

1:55:04 She was connected back to a man named John Punch. Records show Punch, who lived in Virginia, had children with a white woman. Those children later became known as the Bunch family. The findings of the two-year study are now posted on the company's website. So, how did the research team figure this out? As we're going, you know, from President Obama to his mom and grandmother and great-grandmother, you're looking for like birth and marriage and death records, all those kinds of records. As we get farther back in time, though, they weren't kept or they've been destroyed over time. The Civil War, a lot of records are destroyed, fires, floods, and things like that.

1:55:40 So, we start looking at what we call surviving records, church records, land records. And so, when we get really far back into like here, John Bunch III, who's born in 1680, from here on out, we're looking at land records. University of Maryland history professor Ira Berlin says all of this is perfectly plausible because there was a time when white indentured servants and black slaves freely intermingled. Oh, oh, it's before Black Lives Matter. Yeah. So the first black president, son of Stanley, named Brock Hussein Obama, is connected to the first slave ever

1:56:21 in America. What are the chances? His white mama's side. Thank you, Ancestry.com. Man, if you're going to get out of here with this, but it's like we have to tie him. They were feeling the pressure. They were feeling that. They had to do something. We got to do it. Got to find some slavery. Yes. Wow. But the magic wore off. And even his most ardent supporters became disillusioned with Barack Obama and his whole do-nothing attitude for black people. And one of those being Michael Eric Dyson. So I have a clip from Michael Eric Dyson then,

1:57:05 and then we're going to go and see how he's become dissatisfied and even maybe angry. An angry black man at President Obama. So let's start off with 30. We began with Barack Obama's election to believe, many did, that we're living in a post-racial society. Been there, done black. Over with it. And what happened, of course, is that Barack Obama, unexpectedly to some, just evoked all of this racial animus and hostility. You mentioned Dylan Roof, the young white man who murdered nine people in that Charleston church.

1:57:47 He wrote a kind of crazed manifesto, and in it he said, You people are taking over, basically. I have to do this. Yeah, that's Dylan Robinson. So that's the Alex. That's a whole nother story, Dylan Roof is. Yeah, man. manifesto of sorts, he wrote. Yes, all convenient. Yeah. So that was Mayor Eric, excuse me, Michael Eric Dyson then caping for Obama and explaining away all his issues. Issues. Now let's, well, where are you at one? What people were trying to get Obama to do, it ain't just about legislation.

1:58:27 Use your voice. Speak up. Now, I know he's out of office now. I love him. I want him to make as much money as he can, but don't just make money. Make meaning. Speak, sir. You have the bully pulpit of the world before you. You just can't accumulate chips and cash and make money. And I ain't mad at you. Make all the money you want. Make all the money you need. Get your paper. But speak up about Donald Trump. You out of office. When you were in office, we made excuses for you. Oh, my God. He can't talk because they'll outvote him. You ain't got to be voted out of office no more. Where you at? Obama, we love you. I know a lot of black people are going to be mad, but speak up. You feel he needs to do more. Oh, my God. Moore, what has he done? What has he done? Neyman.

1:59:10 What have you done since you've been out of office? You spoke up for one politician and said she should be in office. You ain't helped out no black people. You certainly undermined the candidacy of Keith Ellison to be head of the Democratic National Committee, right? DNC? And got your man in. I ain't mad. Perez is a good dude, but I'm saying you undermined the black man. So the black man that people suffered for who were black and who said he should be supported undermined the black man ain't got nothing to say about it. I know y'all, man. Tough. Tough. What's the word? I mean, this has got to be a, this has got to be a common question. What you doing, Barack? Why aren't you saying anything?

1:59:50 Everybody, and as he only comes out when he's allowed to, I mean, because it's clear. He's told what he can speak on and what he can't speak on. But and then Michael Eric Dyson did something tricky there. He said, what have you done? And then he had to think about like, oh, I co-signed his whole eight-year-old. Every part of it. Yeah. Right. What did you say? What did you do? So then he had to qualify with the wait. I co-signed him. So you can even see. You know what I always thought? I always thought that the plan was, this is going to sound weird. There was like a president of the world slot for Obama.

2:00:33 And that was, you know, just taking due to you in. The UN. Something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Something along those lines. I mean, it would have, he was young enough, you know, he's young enough to take 10 years, 15 years to create something. If Hillary Clinton become president, we might have actually seen Black Lives Matter turn out very differently. And, you know, just look at some of the cities that are in on it. It's obvious now. I mean, you don't leave people burning crap down in your city for eight weeks. So there was some, I always felt there was some plan, and then Barack Obama would emerge and,

2:01:11 you know, outreach his arms and make it all well. So you sound like that has expired. I think that's, and I said it before, I think that's what this whole Joe Biden thing is. Joe Biden is the perfect proxy for Barack Obama to run the country without take any blame. Right. No, no, I'm with that, but I thought it was going to be bigger. I thought it was going to be a bigger thing. Yeah, he can't. Yeah, he can't really do that because. No. But I think people disillusion me. People are done with him. It's like he, I mean, he's literally like been canceled. I mean, to be honest with you, just the people that got him there, he can't activate them to go vote.

2:01:54 So what good is he? That's it. No, no, that's it. That's all you got to say is he can't activate people to vote. So he's just no good. You heard how he talked to us last. I mean, for Hillary Clinton. Yeah. Don't clap. Go vote. You know what I'm saying? My legacy. Right. For my legacy. Yes. For me. But Michael Eric Dyson, he didn't stop there. He continues on. Where are you, Brock? What's the word? What do you think is at the core of what you see as a lack of willingness to engage? I mean, that's his personality. That's that Hawaiian chill out personality.

2:02:36 And that's also his name. He ain't got the same kind of ethos, pathos, pain, hurt, and agony that black people have had. I'm not saying he's not black. That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying he ain't truly black. He is. Black and a lot of black people I know. But he didn't have that existential misery growing up in the same way. He doesn't have the same anger necessarily that black people have. That we are outraged by this stuff. He didn't feel it in his gut the same way. I'm not saying. he ain't black. He's blacker than black. I've known Obama since 92, one of the blackest dudes I know. But what I'm saying is that your being black ain't got nothing to do with the kind of blackness and the kind of experience that you had and endured.

2:03:12 And so you don't feel driven to speak out. You're not LeBron James who said, I'm going to represent for my neighborhood where I came from, regardless of all the cash I got. And it's time to put the fire under Obama, too. You out of office now. All the Negro excuses made for you while you were in office for us to say, wait till the second term, he's going to do something. Wait till the last half of the second term. He's going to do something. What'd he do? And I'm saying, finally got on to criminal justice reform. Okay. And I'm saying this out of a love for Obama. I know there's some Negro bots out there. There's some Obama bots who can't hear nothing. They just as bad. Let me tell you what, Obama bots are just as bad as these Trump supporters who can't hear criticism. If it's your guy, be willing to say, you know what, I love him.

2:03:54 I'm a ride with him right or die. But there's some stuff he could have done better. Wow. I heard you have it. I almost heard you talking there. That was really funny. Well, Eric, what happened is Eric Lynch hitched his wagon to Obama's train, and now the train is not moving off the rails. So now it's like, well, where's the most lucrative angle on Obama? And that's questioning him, where are you? You know, we get all these excuses. And yes, you are saying it, and I'll say it for you. Barack Obama is not black. I will say it. There, there you have it. He tiptoeed around it and he realized he said it, but then he had to walk it back for the next 15, 20 seconds.

2:04:38 Well, I'm not saying he's not black. He's more black than black. He's blacker than the back of forest with his neck. I mean, like, so he did that. So he did the same thing Bobby Rush did, but then he's like, I went a little too far and had to back it. No, the reason why I said black, he's not black. If you want to say black is a creation of black ink, he didn't hold true to what he was supposed to do. And that's to throw black people either to throw his weight behind their causes, even if he couldn't get them changed.

2:05:19 At least his last two years. Make an effort. Make an effort. He could have said reparations for every answer to every question. Like, Barack, what you want for lunch? Reparations. I mean, that kind of thing. So you can't get it done. And if he would have left saying the only thing we haven't gotten done yet, America is this. It would have been left lingering and it would have been the question that would have been on everybody's mind. But we know that that's not the way it works. And the only time he talks is when it comes down to voting. And it's just the same thing. He brought up Barack Obama. Eric Dyson brought up LeBron James. It's the same thing. They are funded by the same group of people that you can speak on what we allow you to speak on.

2:06:00 But China, no. Reparations, no. If you want to talk about putting silly names on back of jerseys or whatever, go for it. Voting, go for it. But other things, no. So they're owned in a sense. I mean, it's no easy way to put it. And to say, and now, let me flesh out what I'm saying because I don't sound like Michael Eric Dyson backpelling on if he's black or not. And then if you want to say, remember the two definitions that black we laid out on the last show? If you're talking about lineage, he's not black. Right. He is not.

2:06:39 You're not AdoS, which that is synonymous with black, which they stretched it out to mean whatever they want to now with these two definitions. But like I said, I'm going to reel it back. But no, by the two definitions, he is not black. That was laid out by not my definition that was laid out by Miss Colors in her statement last year. It's kind of sad that Dyson here, that he can't just be honest about it. And he had to double down because he kind of flubbed it. It's kind of sad. Well, he has heard liberal universities. Yeah, well, that's the system. That's why we do a podcast. So we can actually say these things and get down to some brass tacks.

2:34:46 Thank you so much for that. And thank you all for doing the work. Please support us by going to mofacts.com or you can go directly to our donation page, mofundme.com, M-O-U-F-U-N-D-M-E.com. And thank you to all these great producers for producing and doing the work for episode 44. As I said before, Barack Obama received the most friendly coverage and even downright ignoring stories that could have been damaging to him. And I have a couple examples

2:35:24 of this in the next couple sets of clips. Okay. I guess the first one, let's just go ahead and hop in. Malia gets the internship. Sadly, the Obamas have officially moved out of the White House. After eight years of incredible leadership, the most impactful first family we've seen in years is preparing to transition into life outside of the office, and that includes the girls too. Overnight, news broke that Barack and Michelle's oldest daughter, Malia, has just secured a major internship with famed Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein. After the family finishes vacationing in Palm Springs, and before Malia heads off to her freshman year at Harvard, she will spend some time right here in New York City learning all about what independent film has to offer.

2:36:10 Harvey Weinstein and his brother Bob, who raised money for the Obama campaign, have one of the most successful independent film companies in the world. Their credits include Shakespeare in Love, The King's Speech, and most recently, Jay-Z's new series, Time, The Khalif Bowder Story. So it's safe to say that Malia will be in good hands. But we are saddened by their inevitable exit from the White House. It will be awesome to cheer on the Obamas when they have half the stress and double the freedom to accomplish anything they can dream. Yeah, I don't think we need to even say anything about that. I think that story speaks for itself. Had you heard of this before? I mean, I recall one story quite a while back

2:36:56 that she was going to work there or something. But when Me Too happened, no, that was not brought up. Isn't there 16 individual, what do you call it, independent intelligent agencies at the behest of the president? If I'm the president and I'm sending my daughter to work somewhere, trust me, you might check it out first. What is this guy, Harvey, all about? I mean, hey, and then as it's known, as it was an Oprah secret in Hollywood that he was handsy at best or at worst, however you want to put it there. Yeah, this is not the guy. No.

2:37:41 Wow. She's going to be in good hands. Well, you know, that I always stick to the rumor that both the Obama kids are not Barack's kids. One is Stevie Wonders' kid and the other one is Scotty Pippen's kid. That's what I've always said that. Well, if you see the pictures of the two, if you see the pictures of the two people that apparently are supposed to be their biological parents, it's very damning. It's very damning. But like I said, I'm not going to dabble in those kind of conspiracies because I'm going to save my, keep my powder dry for other things.

2:38:22 But your daughter going to work for Harvey Weinstein, and this has to be 2016. There was already rumblings about Harvey in 16, right? I mean, yeah. Oh, man, can you believe that? But they let you know they're disgusted by the behavior of Harvey Weinstein. President Obama and the first lady Michelle Obama say they are, quote, disgusted by the behavior of Harvey Weinstein, who's accused of sexual assault and raping several women. A portion of their joint statement says, Michelle and I have been discussed by the recent reports about Harvey Weinstein. Any man who demeans and degrades women in such fashion needs to be condemned and held accountable regardless of wealth or status.

2:39:04 They also said we should celebrate the courage of women who have come forward to tell these painful stories. And we all need to build a culture, including by empowering our girls and teaching our boys decency and respect so we can make such behavior less prevalent in the future. Their statement comes after critics accused the first couple of staying quiet about the Weinstein allegations, which dropped last week in a report in the New York Times. Then, of course, yesterday, the New Yorker dropped an even more explosive piece as well. Weinstein has been a major Democratic donor. In 2012, he contributed $71,000 to Obama's campaign. Their oldest daughter, Malia, recently interned at the Weinstein Company. Weinstein was also a prominent supporter of Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.

2:39:45 She also finally released a statement saying she was shocked and appalled by the revelations. She said the behavior cannot be tolerated. Now, here is how a normal father would respond somewhere between this report, 2016, and today, 2020, at some point, maybe by myself, maybe with my wife, I'd say, I was so shocked when I learned this, and I could not believe that my daughter had been in possible danger. And you would have to say something about this. But no. Yeah, and they acted like they didn't know. But then Michelle said, we need to believe all women and their stories.

2:40:28 Why didn't they listen to the former White House photographer? You saw a lot of people come and go at the White House as well. What did you think, for instance, when Harvey Weinstein visited? That was a very, very tough moment. My entire body was screaming. I'm not sure if Australian viewers are aware, but shortly after the New York Times article last year, I came forward and told my story of Harvey Weinstein and my knowledge of him in the film business. And when he came to the White House with Michelle Obama for a Broadway tribute event, my body was screaming inside and I wanted to shake Michelle and go, no, no, no, don't do this.

2:41:12 And I just connected. I've got to know. That's not me. I said no. Anna, did you ever, you talked about how you skin crawled when you saw Javi Weinstein walking with Michelle Obama? Did you ever, were you ever able to warn them about the sort of company that were capping? Actually, that came up recently with one of her aides. I said to them just recently after the Michelle Obama, they contacted me. I said, you know, I tried to warn Michelle and they said, well, when and how did you do that? And I said, I spoke to her First Lady press office, both in the East Wing and I spoke to President Barack Obama's office on the West Wing.

2:41:49 And I don't know why those messages didn't get to them directly, but I was very surprised and disheartened that Harvey Weinstein was there. I thought it was hypocritical of the First Lady at the time. I guess she didn't know what everyone else knew. And I was very concerned when, of course, as it Malia started interning at Merrimack at the Weinstein Company. I've not. I had not heard this of this woman. This is great. And I've done a lot of work on researching these people. That's fantastic. Well, of course, this all leads into some of my favorite topics.

2:42:33 And then there's two things that just strike me is just you can't ignore these two facts. One, Barack Obama being the leader of the free world, have all this access to all these intelligence agencies. You can't have somebody look into Harvey and then your wife is BFS with Oprah, who has the intelligence, the entertainment intelligence agencies. I mean, TMZ, and I'm sure she has moles everywhere. Or you could just pick up the phone and say, hey, oh, what's up?

2:43:13 It's Michelle. Yeah, you see. Yeah. Harvey, what's up with him? How is he? Yeah, I'm checking on behalf of my daughter who I love so much and I'm going to send her off to intern. What do you think, O and why didn't O say, hey, Michelle? I don't really want to say nothing, but you might want to let her intern over at the Ford Foundation. I'm just saying. USAID. Anything but Harvey. Right. That conversation never happened. This is. Yeah, that's all. This is what I'll talk about in the media. And then you have these women coming forward. So they warned her. And it was well-known news, but nobody reports on that.

2:43:59 Now, this next topic, I wrestled with it. It was in and it was out. And then it was in and then it was out. I was like, go ahead. Before you lead into the topic, I'm glad you left it in because I worked with this person on her own show in New York when she was on Channel 5, but it was syndicated nationally. I really had an affection for her. I think we got along professionally extremely well. And she had two modes. Really three. With me, she turned on an extra kind of like charm, which was very endearing. And I played right into that, of course. She's older than I was.

2:44:44 But if she was saying something truthful to you, like in between a commercial break, she meant it. She was very, very straight lace. I'm talking about Joan Rivers. Take it from there. No, you take it from here. Okay. So Joan, no, it's good. Man, this is a hard one. Like, okay, this is what I was talking about about that hater. I mean, that hater cloud looming over you. It's okay because I've done this many times. So people can hate me for this if they want. It's not a problem. Right. So Joan Rivers was asked, and she was very in tune with, if there is such a thing, the gay community.

2:45:28 She's been around. She's show business, the theater, television, movies. It's very, very, very long history. Very connected woman and also very intuitive because she went through a lot of tragedy and she could feel people and understand where they were coming from. And she turned everything into a joke. And that's how she dealt with her life, I think. But there was a rumor. And I can't honestly remember where it's like. We can't say it. I guess you just had to play it. I'm just saying, it's just, I'm not shying away from it. I'm just. I can't believe she said it, and then I can't believe it was not covered.

2:46:08 That's what I'm saying. Well, I think it was, it was, was it for entertainment tonight? Or who, I think it was AT or TMZ. I think TMZ. TMZ. He might have aired it. Yeah. And I think Howard Stern played it a lot, which is probably where I heard it first. But these rumors have been around for quite a while. And when Joan Rivers said this, to me, it meant something more than to the average person because I knew that this was Joan in not joking mode. Ms. Rivers, how are you? You made a ton of news officiating the wedding in New York yesterday. Is this like a new cottage career move for you? I'm so excited. I should do very well because I don't show. And do you think that the country will see the first, the United States will see the first gay president or the first woman?

2:46:56 Got it. You know Michelle is a transformer. I'm sorry, she's a what? A transgender. We all know. Oh my gosh. Oh my god. It's okay. Now, she had just officiated, I think, the state or the city's city's first. first same-sex marriage. Yeah, I got a clip on that too, just to support that she's not some homophobe or not. What I'm saying is, because that's where she'll be painted when you say something against, you know what I'm saying, the great Barry. But what struck me is the silence around this story.

2:47:38 It was, we've saw the email where people were being rude towards Michelle Obama, and it was like some mayor in some hick town sends an email criticizing Michelle Obama, and it made like national news. Right, right. How dare you! Right, you have Joan Rivers come out, and she says it so nonchalantly that, and what one thing we have to take into account was that cover of Newsweek that had first gay president Barack Obama with the

2:48:15 rainbow halo. When I heard this, I'm like, that's not what they meant, which, like I said, the rumor and rumors and the conspiracies and those kind of things went around. And it's not something that I can't substantiate, even though there's so some smoking guns around the activities of men dying in Chicago mysteriously. And we know about President Hitler's and the Larry Sinclair business and all of that. Oh, that too. Like I said, I didn't want to dabble in that. I wanted to come at the angle of this is how the media protects one of their assets. And if you want to use the Operation Mockingbird as a framework,

2:48:56 as a framework, they're protecting one of their real assets, not like quote-unquote assets. But then Joan, I mean, Joan, she just said, oh, yeah. And then she says, okay, we have them, Barack. And I'm like, okay. And then she doubles down like, oh, oh, Michelle? Oh, yeah, she's a trendy, but it's okay. Don't worry about it. I mean, it's all right. She didn't say it like mean or harshly. And then the interaction opens up with the reporter referencing the same sex marriage that she had just done previously, which I have a clip on. 7 p.m., Joan's at Barnes and Noble. She gets a standing O and a surprise request.

2:49:35 The comedian who's an ordained minister was asked if she would marry these two fans. I fancy, and it's wonderful. You're my second marriage. Husband and husband. Joan Rivers, a force of nature who was one of a kind. Thanks for the memories, Joan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't end very well with this comment. And it seems like Joan knew it may have been coming from her last show that she did. Our top story, though, is the passing of Joan Rivers. Can her voice really be gone?

2:50:12 Funeral services for her will be this Sunday in New York. Remembrances are pouring in from all over the world for this comedy legend. Her family says the 81-year-old died peacefully Thursday in a New York hospital. Summing up a legendary career in comedy, Rivers' daughter and co-star Melissa Rivers said this in a statement: My mother's greatest joy in life was to make people laugh. Although that is difficult to do right now, I know her final wish would be that we return to laughing soon. Well, as you know, virtually no subject was off limits for Rivers, including her own mortality.

2:50:49 Take a listen to this clip now from her final stand-up comedy performance reported just one day before she ended up in the hospital. How did this thing happen? I am now 81 years old. I could die any day. No, no, no, no, no, no. Do you understand how lucky you would be? Do you understand you would have something to talk about for the rest of your life? You invited, oh, you were there? What did she say at the end? I couldn't hear it. She said she's talking about her dying. She's like, you were there? You know, like, I mean, if her shit died, it would be big news and you would, you know,

2:51:30 but this is one day before she goes in for surgery. Yeah, very simple surgery. Very simple surgery and routine almost from routine. And then they're just, they honestly says that she didn't have to die. There are startling new details emerging from the federal investigation into the death of Joan Rivers. The findings have angered her daughter, Melissa. Yeah, Chris Ragney has the latest from outside the clinic where a new report says terrible mistakes were made. It's this simple. Joan Rivers did not have to die. There's always a risk. Whenever you go under, you've got to say maybe this won't won't work. work, or maybe I won't even come out of it.

2:52:13 It is a major life choice. This just released 22-page report includes some disturbing claims about what was supposed to be just a routine throat procedure for the comic legend back in August. Among the mistakes, investigators report the clinic failed to get Joan's informed consent for each procedure performed and failed to identify deteriorating vital signs. And this is the part that is just astounding. The report says that while Joan was sedated, a staff member, quote, took pictures of the surgeon and the patient with his cell phone. Oh, man. Oh, I remember all this. It was very distressing. It's like proof of a hit. It's like, oh, yeah. Hey, bitch, send me my Bitcoin.

2:52:58 Yeah, that's bad, man. That was shocking to me when she died. It's just like, what? And then, because I didn't hear about the Michelle thing until after. Me either. Me. I mean, like I said, all this is what? Like, she died mysteriously, and all of a sudden, like, all that. No, what shocked me was that the news didn't freak out on her and cancel her. She should have definitely been canceled to say the first black first lady is a transgender. I mean, you have the gay, the LGBT community should have been outraged. The black community should have been outraged. The feminists should have been outraged. You know, the machine didn't. The machine suppressed it.

2:53:40 The machine didn't let that happen. Which, when they don't talk about something that can generate a lot of revenue, I mean, it's bigger than money. Much bigger. I was just looking. So, yeah, it was Entertainment Tonight. I think they might have had shown. I'm just looking at the news if I can see any historical news stuff. It's really, it only aired there, I think, and that was it. I know TMZ covered it and they kind of poo-pooed it away. Like, oh, that's just Joan being Joan. You know, crazy Joan. That's why I heard it on the TMZ clip, which you can't find anymore. That's the other thing. Like, these clips are disappearing. To find this clip,

2:54:22 I had to go inside of a bigger video that had it in the clip embedded. And I had to snip it there. But no, the clips are gone. They're gone. They've been scrubbed. Really? And don't ever get it twisted that Obama is a gangster. Super gangster. And the reason why I say that is 41. And Joan Rivers, her daughter, Melissa, revealing tonight she received a handwritten note paying tribute to her late mother. That note from President Obama, writing, quote, Not only did she make us laugh, she made us think. Made us think? Yes. But you know, handwritten note from Obama

2:55:05 after he just called you gay and your wife Tranny. Oh, yeah. She made us laugh. She made us think a little too much. Do you remember? Do you remember the time that was President Obama was speaking at? I think the might have been a war memorial. And he's referring to, you know, Mike and I, we, yes, Michael and I. He did it on several occasions. Like I said, I don't want to, I don't have proof either way on what she is or isn't, but that a fact that wasn't covered in the news, and then he follows up with a handwritten note to Melissa Rivers. Yeah. She made us laugh. She made us think. Yeah.

2:55:49 That's like a stone cold gangster move. Like, did it come wrapped in like a dead fish or something? Like, I iced her and then I sent the kid a note. That is really hard. I love your thinking, Mo. Nah, it's just, but, and I want to say this before I play this last clip. This is the hill Obama chose to die on metaphorically or figuratively, and that's the transgender bathroom. Yeah, the bathrooms, right? This, and I want to say enraged, but just that was the tipping point for black people.

2:56:26 It's like, come on, bro. Like, I mean, you did DACA. You did gay marriage before us. I mean, you got to say before us. You did all these other things. And in your last year or two, transgender bathrooms, that's the one you want to, that's the one you want to not reparations, not freeing people. So the logical conclusion is this is the decision made by a man who has a different cultural history than was portrayed. Yes. But different values. You parade around as black when you plurate on this black that has.

2:57:04 has certain uh racist actions that come with it. Yeah, sure. And that's where you heard the upset, the upset Michael Eric Dyson. Like, that's kind of what he was saying. Like, bro, come on. I uh say something. So, but there may be, go ahead. Well, no, I'll ask you. I'll ask you after you get to the next clip. Don't okay. Yeah. There may be some reasonings behind why he's so sympathetic to this demographic, and that's Obama's ex-nanny. 66-year-old Evie walks the streets of her Indonesian slum. She lives in a tiny room, subsisting on money she earns from washing clothes.

2:57:49 Evie's meagre existence belies a startling truth. She was once nanny to President Barack Obama. Evie says she's always been proud that the person she cared for, drove to school, and cooked for ended up being number one in the world. The future president was just eight years old at the time. In the late 1960s, his mother, Ann Dunham, married her second husband and moved to Indonesia. Dunham was impressed by Evie's cooking ability and offered her a job. For two years, Evie lived with Obama and his family in this Jakarta home, but she thinks the young Obama didn't know one fundamental truth about her. Born a man, Evie identifies as a woman. Evie says Ann Dunham might have known she was transgendered, but she never dressed as a woman in front of young Barry.

2:58:33 Evie has struggled through life, saying she's never found suitable work since Obama and his family left the country in the early 1970s. But she says Obama's election gave her a reason to feel proud for the first time in a long time. Matt Friedman, Associated Press. Wow. So thank you for that, too. I didn't know that story either. Damn you. Damn you, Mo. Now, listen, Maurice, you got to stop this. So what do you think the strategy was for whoever was controlling Obama? And every president is controlled one way or the other. This current one is probably more controlled by military than anything.

2:59:17 What do you think the strategy was? Why choose those particular issues to go out with and not, I mean, sorry to put it, just toss a bone. I mean, why not a single thing? What do you think the idea was there? Well, if you look at it from a Marxist mindset, it's all about the conflict. So keep the conflict going and just add some LGBTQQIAPK to it. Because I want to say this correctly, the LGBT community was sitting back on their laurels celebrating the marriage thing. So it's like, now we need to ratchet it up again another level because you didn't win nothing.

3:00:01 No achievement here. Oh, wow. Until our sisters and brothers have their own bathroom. There is no victory. Oh, man. Well, that, of course, is not the end of the Barack Hussein Obama story, the Barry Sotero story. This story will continue, and I look forward to unpacking whatever comes our way with you, Mo, because I think this a lot. Well, I'm not going to say it because it's your tagline to say. Yes. Pay attention to everything, and the truth will reveal itself. And that is our motto, ladies and gentlemen. Mo, thank you so much. Had a good time, man. As always. As always, Adam, and I'll see you next week.

3:00:42 Remember, it's MoFacts.com. If you want to support us directly, you producers are encouraged to do that. M-O-E-F-U-N-D-M-E.com. We'll see you next week right here at MoFax with Adam Curry. I chose this particular song because the words have a very special message. I've heard a lot of songs and I've sang a lot of songs, but none of them really, really came right out and called a spade a spade. This song tells it just like it is. The message is simply that it's just about an impossible task to figure out which of your friends smiles because they ask

3:01:30 it. Brothers and sisters, your enemy won't do you no harm

3:02:19 Cause you know well Just where they're coming from Oh, don't let the handshake of the smiles fool you Take it, take it, take my advice I'm only trying to school you that Smiling faces Smiling faces sometimes They don't tell the truth Smiling faces Smiling faces till lies Look at the kitchen till I got through

3:03:02 Smiling faces Smiling faces sometimes Thanks Obama