87: Ye & They

00:10 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for October 29th, 2022, episode number 87. Hey, it's been a hot minute, everybody. How you doing? Why don't we find out what's going on? I'm Adam Curry coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. Time once again to spin that wheel of topics from here to Northern Virginia. Please say hello to my friend on the other end, Mr. Mo Facts. How are you doing, Adam? Well, I'm glad to know that you're alive. He lives. I live on. Yeah, brother. What's been going on? Everyone's been kind of wondering, and you and I have spoken a couple times.

00:49 And you want to just bring everybody up to speed? So, as everybody knows, I went into my own endeavor, own business of doing business for myself. So that takes away from the time. And for one thought, we'll get to it a little later, but this next topic, it never ended. So that added to the complexity. But then me and you also have some conversation about maybe tweaking the format a little bit so we can get back on a regular schedule. So that's what's been going on with me. Yeah, indeed. And yeah, I'll vouch for that. You know, we had a Kanye show planned. We've been talking about it for a while, even though we've done Kanye or Ye stuff in the past.

01:34 And it literally would be like, okay, we should do the show. Yeah, well, Kanye is doing another interview here. So let me just spin it anyway. We might as well, you know, just for formality. Let's hit that wheel of topics round around. It goes where it stops, nobody knows. Well, I think most of us know, but you know, Mo sometimes surprises. The topic for Mo Facts with Adam Curry, episode 87, is. If y'all want to threat me, it ain't going to make a difference, honestly. Yep. Ye on deck. They've threatened him very publicly. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, Mo. Maybe we should do this just to make sure we cover all the bases before we start this show.

02:16 Trigger warning. Trigger warning. Trigger warning. Your attention free. Trigger warning has been activated. Pretty sure someone will get triggered somewhere. I'm sure. As any honest conversation can be triggering. But as you know, we always like to humanize people here. But we got to have an honest conversation. And we've talked about this topic before. Several topics that are going on right now. Even Kanye himself, we had an episode dedicated to his quote-unquote awakening or becoming counsel proof.

02:57 So I want to catch everybody up on how we got to where the show is going to start. Yeah. So, and you, you let me know if you've heard it, you haven't heard it, or what you, what your take on it was. Okay. It started when he put the White Lives Matter shirt on. Yes. Yes. That was the beginning of a cascade of dominoes. Yes. So then that happened. And where we got to the anti-Semitic part, because that's going to be the focus of the show. We'll talk about the White Lives Matter shirt on another show because I think that was part of a tactic in itself.

03:36 And it's another show, trust me. Okay. But when he put that shirt on, Diddy, aka Puff Daddy, aka Sean Combs, made an Instagram post. And Kanye and him got to a text/slash Instagram argument. This is what mature people do. Well, yeah. So we get on Instagram. We go bitch at each other. This is a point that I agree, though. This is misunderstood because even I missed this or I kind of overlooked it. But what exactly was that beef going on? Well, they sent Puffy to ring Kanye's bullet phone.

04:20 Oh. And he said, I know they sent you. And, you know, I'm going to make an example out of you. And then he made the infamous post of going DEF CON 3 on Jews when I wake up in the morning. And that's how we got to the anti-Semitic part. Yeah, got it. So just to speed everybody up. And coincidence, they've announced today that Puff Daddy has become the PDP Diddy, has become the third billionaire rapper. Oh, no. That's crazy. Right after Ye was de-billionaired. Yeah. So I just want to say. one thing about that.

05:01 I hear all the time of, you know, this person's a billionaire. That person's a billionaire. Kylie Jenner's a billionaire. Everybody's a billionaire. It kind of shows now that, you know, that it's such a worthless number because apparently the way people counted Ye as a billionaire was his future earnings and potential value with Adidas. Right. And then the numbers are being thrown out is a wide range. He's saying 11 billion. Please. They said 2 billion. Now it's, we're going to, so I guess that leads. Hopefully, are we clear on how we got to the anti-Semitic part? Oh, yeah.

05:40 Yeah, yeah. And of course, that was the tweet. Now there was more to it, but that's the one that got all triggering. Right. That was the third. That was him grabbing the third rail with both hands and shaking it. He was licking. He was licking the third rail, Moe. Yes, he was moonwalking with wet socks on the third rail. I mean, when you saw that, did you shake your head and go, or how did you respond? Well, the way I looked at it was he's rattling. He's shaking. He was a turn. He's shaking the table. He's not going to get into his argument with Didi. He says, I know who sent you. And I full well know how the Boule phone works.

06:25 He's like, I'm going to talk to who called your phone to call my phone. I want them to come talk to me. And that's why it kind of took us along with this episode because I was waiting for that conversation to happen. And they did see somebody to talk to him. And we're going to get to that later in the show. Let's go ahead and get the recap of Kanye being counseled with business has a role. I guess, sorry, Kanye West continues to face backlash after posting an anti-Semitic rant on Twitter and across other platforms. Although West was temporarily banned from some social media sites, his message is still available on other sites like TikTok.

07:09 Let's bring you now the CEO and National Director of the Anti-Defamation League, Jonathan Greenblatt. Also with us, co-anchor of CBC Squawkbox, Andrew Ross Sorkin. And Jonathan, I want to read you an op-ed to the Financial Times. Endeavors CEO, Ari Emanuel, is calling on businesses to cut ties with Kanye West. And he writes this. It's not enough for Twitter to lock the rapper Kanye West out of his accounts. West's business partners across the fashion and entertainment industry also need to speak out and take action. West is not just any person. He's a pop culture icon with millions of fans around the world.

07:50 And among them are young people whose views are still being formed. Silence is dangerous. It allows forms of hatred and racism, including anti-Semitism, to spread and become normalized. It coarsens and degrades our society and country. This is why it's necessary for all of us to speak out. Hatred and anti-Semitism should have no place in our society, no matter how much money is at stake. This is a moment in history where the stakes are high and being open about our values and living them is essential. Silence and an action are not an option.

08:30 Right. So at this point, of course, any public argument is lost. And I can only presume that Kanye really wasn't, the audience he's talking to would understand where he was going with this, but the public conversation was already gone. I mean, and it's even, even though DEF CON doesn't mean attack, it's the use of that word. Can you explain that? Because we got to get into the tweet a little bit. Yes, we do. Yes, we do. How he used, I mean, how he used it, who he attacked as a group. And let's just, let me go ahead and explain what DEF CON 3 is to people.

09:09 Well, there's different level DEF CON, and that's, I forget what the abbreviation is for, but it's defense. It's a level of defense. So I think the lowest is actually one. Most people think it's one is the highest, but one is the lowest. And I think five is the highest. Maybe it's three. I don't know. I think it's worse is the lower number. No, I think it's the other way around. I mean, either way, either way. It's funny that he picked three because he didn't know. Nobody, nobody. I've never heard the DEF CON three. I've never heard DEF CON 3 used as an example ever in my entire life. But it would not have mattered if he had said,

09:51 I'll be looking at the Jewish people. It would have been D. deemed anti-Semitic. And that's that's where, and that is, it was funny. I was talking to Tina about this, and there's just one conversation that doesn't matter what you have to say, you're not allowed to say it. It's, it's just, it's, it's not supposed to happen. Uh, correct. And that's with one group in particular. Now, the other day, I thought, you know, CIA for years stood for Catholics in action. You know, Catholics are spooks. You know, there's a lot of grouping like that. But to say this, when you say Jewish people,

10:33 just you have to, and I wonder that he did this on purpose to lump the whole group in, hearing him go after the fact. Because when I talked about Black Lives Matter, I made it a purpose to say Black Lives Matter Inc. Because I understood Black Lives Matter, the people on the ground, the people who felt, you know, a certain way towards the cinema. Man, this is what Kanye, this is what Kanye should have done. He should have said, Jewish people, Inc. And either way, either way, it would have been better. Right. But when he said that, that's why I said, was it intentional for the shock value?

11:15 Because we know he loves shock value. And then explain it once he goes because he even apologized not to the media. And I want to be clear because I saw some tricky headlines. Kanye apologizes. Kanye apologizes when he was talking to Megan Markle Stalker. What's his name? Pierce Morgan. Pierce Morgan. When he was talking to him, he made an apology. I'm sorry that the people not involved that are Jewish were offended by this. But he didn't say it as a blanket apology to everybody.

11:56 No. You understand, here's what I'm, I don't think he's crazy. I think he's, he may be, he might have, I don't think he completely estimated everything that would take place and some of the things he said, even like, oh, you know, it looks like Adidas was able to do without you. They're willing to take a quarter of a billion dollar hit for it. So this is pretty serious business now. When that stuff happens, like, okay, this is, this is not messing around. People's feelings can get hurt. But when companies take a quarter billion dollar loss, and you know, and by the way, we find out that, as they claim, they own all of Ye's designs.

12:38 I mean, it seems, and maybe I'm cutting way in line here, but I understand that Kanye is not happy with a lot of his business relationships and he hasn't been able to put everything in place the way he wanted to. So there's ways to protest against that. This just, it just seems like such a non-starter. I mean, do you want to be a martyr? Because that's all that he can be at this point. Okay. If that's what he wants to be, then that's exactly what he wants to be from my, from just watching this whole thing. That's hard for Americans to swallow. Americans have a very, from a capitalistic viewpoint and just the way we're put in place, someone becoming a true martyr, if that's what Kanye was doing,

13:21 that's hard for people to comprehend. Well, I'm a martyr. The reason why I said my personal martyr, a lot of this thing I had to reflect on personally because given a choice to do business as normal, if I just take the knee or the shot or be a martyr and say, and say, you know what? I'm not going to bend. I'm not going to fold. Yeah. And we see how much a slave costs now. You're saying $1.5 billion is what your freedom costs. That's the going rate for a slave right now. And he bought his own freedom. That's how I see it. And he made himself a martyr.

14:08 I'm telling you, I got to give you the perspective because on a bunch of different levels, hip-hop itself, let's start there. The hardest thing for our hip-hop artists to do is to get out of their deal. Puffy is known for this. It was known for keeping people in contract over and over and holding it over their head. So by doing this, he wiped the slate clean. They own his designs, but they don't own Yeezy. They don't own his music. He's not under any. I'm going a little bit ahead. No, no, no, no, no, no. But I have to interject with one quick thing. When this went down, the first thing I said is, oh, wow.

14:49 Only. Only after more than 80 conversations of three to four hours each, am I able to comprehend what's going on here? I mean, I know what's going on. I understand all of the issues because we've been over them many, many times. And I heard a lot of you in what he was saying. I did. And what he was saying. Tina said that too. That's stuff Mo says. And so this is, I guess this is to say that there's a lot of just ignorance. People just do not understand the depth

15:34 when people protest for pro-life, you know, or either way, if they haven't grown up in a particular culture in America, and we have many cultures. We have Chinese cultures, Italian cultures. We've got all kinds of cultures, Jewish cultures, black culture. If you haven't grown up with it or you haven't had the luxury to be exposed to a lot of the honest thinking, which is what we've done, there's no way you can comprehend it. People are so fucking biased. You understand what I'm saying? I just want to buy the media.

16:12 Yeah, no, of course. Yes, sir. That's why people love this show. And that's, and so I just want to set that up because we are comfortable diving right into this conversation. I want to make sure that everyone who's listening, that they get a little refresher course. We've been through all of these individual issues. And as a clip, we've even done a American Blacks versus American Jews show. Which episode was that? Right. That was 76. Yeah. Third rail, which with third rail, because Kanye shouldn't be listening to our show, man. He's getting ideas from our show. This is no good. Hey, man.

16:52 What Kanye realized, and I've known this for a while now, is that these two black thumbs I have have more power than going out in the street and rallying than anything else because you have people. This was the ADOS thing. Black thumbs ruined Kamala Harris's presidential election before it started. Black Thong has pulled the veil off. This is why they silenced voices like mine on Twitter and created a manufactured black Twitter because it can't go out every day and rally. Now, when you come home from work, just so it's clear, when you say they,

17:36 then we got to go a little bit further than the bullet. Who is they in this case? When you say they created black, they created black Twitter. Now, we saw how MSNBC participated that, and it's always a mystery other than enormous groupthink. But if you were to, how do you think this algorithm comes to life? This algorithm that says these people, yes, these people no. By what you say. Just who does it? But who determines the triggers, the levels? Not Joy Reed, not Joy Reed. No, no, of course not.

18:17 That's the thing. It's the Boulevard, their Boulevard phone, the people that called the people to call Kanye. Who's on the other end of that line? And that's your answer. And he's went one step further to say, okay, Diddy, I don't want to talk to you. I want to talk to the person that called you. So, but who called them? Yeah, no, I understand what you're saying. I'm just wondering that we cover all the bases when it's easy to say they, but we, so do you, do you know, have an idea who that would be just in the Diddy case? No, I don't. Okay. But, but it's

19:01 let's get through the episode and I think we'll start peeling off the onion layer by layer. Sure thing. All right, so let's go ahead and get to clip number three. On a highway in Los Angeles, drivers were greeted with this anti-Semitic banner over the weekend, following a recent string of hateful comments from rapper Kanye West, who is now known as Ye. Today, his talent agency CAA confirmed it is no longer representing West. Several other companies recently cut ties as well. While pressure is mounting on Adidas, home to the rapper's Yeezy brand, to do the same. The thing about it, me and Adidas, it's like I could literally say anti-Semitic and they can't drop me. The company says their partnership is under review, but has not responded to requests for. further comment.

19:46 Just this afternoon, his ex-wife, Kim Kardashian, tweeting, hate speech is never okay or excusable. I stand together with the Jewish community and call on the terrible violence and hateful rhetoric towards them to come to an immediate end. West is one of the most successful pop artists of all time. But most recently, it has been his controversial behavior getting attention. Wearing a White Lives Matter t-shirt, followed by anti-Semitic posts and interviews, spreading conspiracy theories about Jewish control over the media and government. Hateful rhetoric now being echoed by a celebrity with tens of millions of followers.

20:24 Both Twitter and Instagram have restricted his accounts and deleted posts. But the Anti-Defamation League believes West's comments may be emboldening hate groups. Anti-Semitic incidents in the U.S. reached an all-time high last year. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And they were off to the races. See, now, so, so when Ye says that, when he says, I can say anti-Semitic shit and Adidas can't get rid of me, that's when I knew he was all in on death or, you know, or some kind of economic suicide, business suicide. What you see as business suicide, I see as business freedom. I think. I understand. The thing that mattered to him is music he owns.

21:09 No record contract. Yeezy name he owns. Because if you're a creator, it's like I can create another pair of shoes. I can create another album, but you don't own me. And if it takes one and a half billion dollars or whatever, and you just said that, that's a no, those are just ones and zeros somewhere based off of valuation. You see what I'm saying? And you asked me a question: who are they? I'm going to ask that question back to you because you're building podcast 2.0. Who is the they that makes you feel that you need to build podcasting 2.0?

21:47 Excellent question. I will never say a great question. And as you were talking about his freedom, I realized, of course, that I literally sold possessions to buy my freedom 15 years ago when I went on a pure value for value. This is the podcast I do with John C. Dvorak. So I have to say, wow. Let me interject. That was a rhetorical question, but just to highlight the point of. No, no, no, but you're making a really good point. So, of course, who I was going against is exactly the same people, the they.

22:28 You're right. Absolutely. Although it's a little for me, it was easier to say podcasting 2.0 is built to combat Apple because everyone was tied into Apple. So we are providing an alternative to the Apple database, which all which is kind of, which became the default on-ramp to podcasting. And so I took that away from them. But when it comes to podcasting itself and freedom, yes. And I gave up some very valuable things that were very dear to me. I'm sure. Yeah, to be to be able to get to where I am. And the only thing is, it took me a long time. Once you figure out that the true success is not billions of dollars, and maybe Ye has figured this out.

23:12 Maybe this is his statement. It's like, I don't care about a billion dollars. And honestly, I don't either because I know what comes with any high price tag that's attached to anything or anybody of any of any business background. So thank you for pointing that out because that makes a lot of sense. And if that's what Kanye is doing, there were other ways to do it, but I understand he wants to, hopefully he wants to get people to start talking about stuff. So we can all just talk openly with each other about all things. But is there another way? And I'm not asking that without the answer to it, but I'm explaining to you. I think Kanye's on a lag of my

23:59 development. Hold on, hold on. You asked me a question. Go ahead. I didn't say, hey, you know what? I'm building podcastindex.org because the Jews control the media. They won't control this. I didn't say that. Nor do I think that. Of course. But this is my point. I went out and found the alternatives, built it with the grind. See, I'm not bogged down by fame. And that's where Kanye's head explodes. It's very difficult to handle that level of notoriety, fame, recognition. You don't know who's who. Your ex-wife is talking shit about you on Twitter. I mean, it is.

24:41 that's really tough. And not only that, but the reason why I brought the difference is you made a decision, you were already free. Nobody had paperwork on you. He had to get out of his paperwork. You know, I mean, Adidas had him in contracts. And I'm sure if he wanted to press to say, let me go, they would have held it against him. He did something so irrational to the point where they had to sever ties. And Adidas drugged this thing out forever. I got to tell you why I'm laughing. This is crazy. So I was just thinking, you know what?

25:23 I did walk away from paper. And that was when I quit MTV. I quit on air. I thought, you know, I just quit. I just left. And then I remembered what they did to me. They sued me. So I got to say, it doesn't really matter if you're black or white. But I said, hey, the evil corporation is going after me. Right. And I'm going to say, which, by the way, everyone can get behind hating corporations. Just saying. Right. And this is not, once again, because he went, when he went back and popped, quote unquote, his apology was

26:03 if I hurt lumping people into this group and not being more specific, if I hurt you, I'm sorry. Which is collateral damage from his standpoint because he had to say, I mean, if you even brought up Soros, we saw what happened to what's your guy's name? The Republican. When he brought up on Fox of all places, Soros. Oh, that's anti-Semitic. We can't dabble in that. So I don't know who you mean. What's his name? What's his name? The white-haired guy. He ran for president. And he was talking to the black lady and he brought up Soros. And she's paused for a minute. We covered the clip here. I believe you. I believe you. I just can't. The white-haired guy?

26:45 Yeah. Big head. White-haired guy, big head. Boris Johnson. No, he's a, he's a. Anyway, people know who we're talking about. I hope you guys. But it doesn't matter. I'm just saying, even the mention of Soros, we saw how they did with Ice Cube when we covered when Ice Cube tried to have some independent thought. Oh, yeah, no, no, right away that became anti-Semitic. Even if even just saying Soros became anti-Semitic. So I'm just saying that he had to do something irrational to get the platform. And I think Trump did this when he came down the escalator and said Mexicans are rapists coming across the border.

27:28 It was so shocking that, you know, it sucked the air out of the room. Yep. I don't, and this is not being a fan, because I do have admiration for Kanye and I do have issues with Kanye because Kanye went all the way to the left for me when he was like pushing the Illuminati imagery hard. And I've never listened to the Yeezys album because I found that to be blasphemous. You know, so I'm not some kind of fanboy, but I know you don't get to where he's at without giving deep thought to what your moves are.

28:09 Yeah. So I agree. So I'm very interested to see where this goes if it's just to buy his freedom. I would say mission accomplished. He's going to be out of all of all of his contracts and then he can do what he wants to do. Right. And that's if that's the plan, then wow. Long game. Very, very, very long game. Very important. Well, we got to remember he was $58 million in debt and he ran it up to $2 billion. No, no, what we got to remember is that inherently, if you look at his tweet, I don't think you could say violent rhetoric. And that's, and the DEF CON word is the problem there. And he used death instead of DEF, he used death. Oh, I see.

28:52 I didn't even know that. Well, so, okay, well, then, yeah, that's dumb. That's dumb. Right, right. It was dumb. But again, it wouldn't have mattered no matter what he had said. You would have gotten the same media response because that's what the media does. The media is waiting for this. And they pulled in Trump real quick. Like, oh, just like Trump. You know, Trump said also anti-Semitic, hateful rhetoric. The media is, of course, shaping that. Right. So let's go ahead and he thought he couldn't be dropped, but surprise. Breaking news from Adidas this morning. The company has announced it will drop Kanye West as a partner.

29:31 This is as part of a groundswell. groundswell of pressure, really, growing calls for the company to end its partnership with the American rapper and designer, who's now known as Ye. He has made recently anti-Semitic remarks. His behavior has been, as well, offensive, and the company has cited all of that in severing ties. Hillary Johnstone, following the story this morning, this list of companies cutting ties, Hillary, is growing, but Adidas was really one that people were waiting for. It was one that people were waiting for, Heather, because they have for a couple of weeks now sort of been waiting to announce any final decision here.

30:11 So earlier this month, they said that they were going to be reviewing their partnership with Kanye West, now known as Ye. But of course, there's news coming this morning that effective immediately they're cutting ties. And they also say that they do expect that this move will cost them some 250 million euros. That's about 246 million dollars. But saying in a statement, quote, Adidas does not tolerate anti-Semitism and any other sort of hate speech. Ye's recent comments and actions have been unacceptable, hateful, and dangerous, and they violate the company's values. And just recently, the rapper was actually boasting about some of this, saying that, quote, I can say anti-Semitic things, and Adidas can't drop me.

30:54 But of course, the German sportswear company now has, and as you say, joins a growing list of various companies and agencies that are seeking to cut ties. You know, you learn a lot in these types of events. I learned a lot about Adidas's history. Hello? Well, we've talked about it before on this show. I'm there with Hugo Boss, you know, making uniforms and boots for the Nazis. Right. And that's who has the pressure, who has the kind of power to put pressure on Adidas to take that kind of hit.

31:33 It's not even about the, you know, the money. It's we'll destroy your image, Adidas, if you don't do what we want to do. And to prove that, 4A since you brought it up. Ye, who had worked with Adidas since 2013 on his Yeezy line of super expensive, super popular sneakers, thought he was untouchable. Adidas gets an estimated 4% to 8% of its sales from Yeezy products, according to investment bank Cohen. For Ye, it was an even bigger deal, accounting for $1.5 billion of his net worth. But Ye's worth put the German athleticwear company with its own Nazi ties dating back to its founders in the hot seat.

32:10 What followed was an even more escalating pressure on Adidas to sever ties with Ye, as his string of anti-Semitic remarks drew condemnation from the top tiers of Hollywood. For weeks, Adidas stayed silent, except to say on October 6th that their partnership with Ye was under review. The pressure mounted on Adidas after an image was released over the weekend of a banner draped over a Los Angeles highway overpass reading, Kanye was right about the Jews, accompanied by a group of white supremacists giving the Nazi salute to the drivers below. The white supremacists were apparently referring to Ye's DEF CON 3 on Jewish people tweet. They got his Twitter account locked. Now the road has ended, but there's always the chance Ye could relaunch Yeezy on his own.

32:51 Just days ago, Ye made his first post to Parlor, the right-wing social media site he agreed to acquire for an undisclosed amount after getting locked out of Twitter and Instagram. You tell me when it's appropriate to give my opinion on the Parlor acquisition. We could talk. Well, let's talk about this banner first. Yeah. Yeah. And that was the only banner, apparently. The only banner for supposed white supremacists standing giving the Hail Hitler salute. And apparently, they were saying Kanye West was right about going DEF CON 3 on Jewish people.

33:33 This banner, this is like, this is what the media does. They'll take one example of four people, amplify it to make it seem like it's everywhere. It's everywhere, and it's to the most far-extreme interpretation of what was said. Yeah, well, this is drama-based entertainment, Mo. Correct. At its finest. All the things we talked about. Yeah. It's all in there. It's all in there. I found that to be strange. It's like, you didn't go interview him. You just didn't go talk to him. You didn't get, I mean, it was someone who posted this on Instagram, and that's how the media got a hold of it.

34:17 And then they're off to the races. That's all they need. Right. But wouldn't it be more banners? Wouldn't it be more? No, this was the only one in the whole country. Except it didn't seem that way. No, I. I know. This is this is one of the media's favorite tricks. Right. So, and speaking of trick, it had to be in your package. You know, you had to have this. I'm surprised because she brought a white supremacist. This might have been a little earlier, but I'm surprised she didn't bring in Trump because that was the next element. That's ultimately what they want to do. How can we use this to get rid of Trump? That's all. That's what the media's mission is. Well, it's good because, I mean, Trump and Kanye are tied to the hip now.

34:58 So anything Kanye does is inspired by Trump. It's kind of like a given. Well, him putting that red hat on. But you were going to speak about Parliament. Go ahead and parliament. No, you nailed it. So Trump has his own social network. Kanye gets his own social network. But what is he really buying? And I just want to point out that the CEO of Parliament, which is the services, after they restructured, there's a services company, Parliament, and then you have the skin over it, if you will, is Parlor. The CEO is Candace Owens' husband. I just want to point out that I think I don't, now it doesn't, it depends on what he's paying for it, but if you don't have the underlying technology, what are you actually buying?

35:45 You can turn it into yay. Okay, so you're just putting a brand on it. Maybe he's not putting any money up. We don't know anything about it. That would be kind of my suspicion. You forced my hand, Mr. Curry. As you always do, you asked the question, which I have to answer. He's buying Candace. Oh, okay. You know, are you aware of the calls to Ben Shapiro to fire Candace or cut ties with Candace? Go one level higher. Who funds the Daily Wire? Isn't that the guy with the razors? The Wilkes family in Texas. Okay.

36:29 And I'm just got this. This is going to, we're going to revisit this in another whole nother show. And this is why the show takes so long because as I go down these rabbit holes, it's sub-rabbit holes, and it's like, oh, I got to put that over there for later. And yeah, the Wilkes family, which they are this, they're Christians. They believe in Christ. They like Messianic Jews. Interesting. So she bought the hand. She bit the hand that feeds Ben Shapiro with her actions. And just to give you some insight, did you know nobody from the Big Wiz from the Daily Wire showed up to her Black Lives Matter

37:13 premiere? Oh, you mean the documentary? Yes. No, no, it doesn't surprise me. None of them showed up because they're not happy with Candace, but Candace sees that linking with this is all speculation now, but linking with Kanye helps her to where she really wants to go. And that's to get into culture, not politics, culture. And a lot of her topics have been culture-based. And for her, she knew how that was going to land. Her husband had to know how it was going to land. Oh, of course. And there were some problems because Kanye came to the Black Lives Matter documentary premiere.

37:54 Yes, he did. Yeah. Which is, I see her shifting gears. Like, I could stay over here at the Daily Wire. I'll always be number two behind, maybe three behind Ben Shapiro. And I forget the other guy's name that made the trans uh documentary. Matt, Matt, uh, Matt, um, Matt Walsh. Matt Walsh. She could be number three, or she could hitch her wagon to a celebrity as big as Kanye West. Well, that would make a lot more sense for her, which is so that, so just going along with the White Lives Matter t-shirt, that was basically her saying, I'm in this camp.

38:38 And the irony of it, because when he put that t-shirt on, people could talk with blanket statements about white people with no problem. Oh, no, no, no, no. As soon as you say something. Look, Mo, obviously, the hypocrisy is, you know, is on its face, but the whole world is upside down like that, my brother. It's like, there's so much crazy stuff. So when you look at this from end to beginning, was this all a rollout? When you time it with the last DEF CON 3. I did play your hand, didn't I? I did play it. Yes, you did. You did. I got you early.

39:22 I'm sorry. I shouldn't have had him on. See, and see, this is so good because unfortunately, you know, we're not making a show to keep you listening for ratings and advertising. Unfortunately, we're just cutting to the chase and getting to it. And I'm hammering you in the beginning: like, what's the long game? What is this guy doing? What is happening here? This makes no sense. He's too smart for this. And you hold him back. All right. All right. I'll let you go, brother. Just keep going. I will go with the flow. I want to go. No, it's good. It's good, though, because now we see this is business. This is not hate. This is not anything else. It's business at the end of the day. And

40:03 I'm just putting myself in Kaye's mind. This is deep. This is a very deep move. Holy crap. Right. Because Candace Owens is a problem. And when I say a problem, that's a good thing. She's a problem. She's the like conservative Oprah. Yeah, you told me in the making. You told me, yeah, black Oprah in the making. No, not just, well, yeah, you're right. Not even black, conservative. You're right. Conservative Oprah in the making. Boom. Yeah. So let me buy Parlor from you. Let me buy Parliament. How much is Parlor? You know, y'all going to be. That's that. Y'all going to be all right, check. As long as you're saying you stick to the script. So what Kanye does. Wait, wait, wait. Explain that.

40:44 Explain that. Y'all are going to be all right. To Candace and her husband. As long as y'all, you know, don't come out against me, you're going to be okay. And she stood tall. You know, she could have easily folded, especially she's in a very fragile position. That's interesting. Okay, well, hold on a second, if you don't mind. Because I saw this roll out and I was very surprised. Obviously, Tucker Carlson goes, We've got Ye, you know, big sit-down interview. It's amazing we got this. We flew to Los Angeles. And of course, I'm like, well, that was a Candace Owens hookup because they had just done the Paris Fashion Show. So I understood how that had come to be.

41:28 But what I didn't understand is how he went on, you know. Do you have a podcast with a cat listening? Ye could be on that podcast. He went, he lost. It's kind of like the cardinal rule of he was breaking many rules of crisis management, of PR, of celebrity. Celebrity always needs to have some mystique about it. Don't always let too much out. You certainly don't do one big interview and follow it up with ABC and NBC and Pierce Morgan and

42:09 Lex Friedman. And I have a feeling that, you know, Joe Rogan probably didn't want to. Oh, no, Joe. Joe's a little too smart for this. Right. So I was like, no, no, no, no, no. You can unwind that one, bro. But in that context, it was a press tour, really, with the payoff still coming. Okay. I'm with the optics with the optics of him with the big crazy beard on Tucker Carlson looking like a madman. Everything. Then he goes and does, like I said, Pierce Morgan. Then he does the drink champs. That's urban media. You know, he's hitting all the spots and he's poking the bear.

42:51 Adidas can't drop me. You know, kept poking the bear. He's basically saying, divorce me, bitch. Right. Wow. Wow. Okay. This is a whole new person. I'm glad we can take it out of the whole anti-Semitic realm for a bit because this is so much more interesting. No offense, everybody, but that's covered. That's covered. We know how horrible it all is. Well, we got to talk about how why and how the manipulation, manipulation of the third rail is a problem. Kanye manipulated the third rail, apparently. Right. And he even said that in an interview.

43:32 He's like, I'm stretching. Y'all used to say one little thing was anti-Semitic. I'm going to stretch the, you know, what I call, I mean, I've learned as the Overton window. He stretched the Overton window to what is acceptable to say. And we got to look at the time of this. He did it right during Yon Kipp. The war, Yon Kippur, was the last DEF CON 3 issue. I didn't even. Oh, man. Didn't catch that one. Which was 26 years ago, almost to the date of when he rolled us out. We got Twitter being opened up by Elon Musk, who's also been called an anti-Semite. All of this is going on at the same time. Oh, no, I'm well aware. I'm well aware.

44:17 You know, the Musk thing is sitting. tight, right? Let's see what happens there. You know, I have my thoughts. Right. But he knew Twizzler couldn't cancel him forever, you know, because Elon couldn't keep Kanye off. And you see, he's back. Is he back on? Is Kanye back on? Well, his account's back, back active. Oh, okay. All right. I mean, you can't. I mean, Elon has talked about no lifetime bans. Right. You know, so I'm just saying, this is what this is my perspective of what's going on.

44:54 But I have another example because I always talk about the local media, local news. Whatever they show on the local news is what they want the average everyday person to think. Yeah, it's rolled out nationally. Exactly. Right. Here's an LA County teacher talking about her students. Yes. And we're not in front of the school because as ugly as this is, it is not really indicative of the school as a whole. Just happened in one classroom. The teacher felt strongly enough about this whole thing. She had to post about it. Watch this. A student came up to me in front of everyone and said, Miss Shana, are you Jewish?

45:34 And I responded with, why are you asking? And their response was, because it's concerning. And I said, why is it concerning? And they said, because it's not good. And then another student shouted out, Kanye West hates Jews. Shana Ross on Instagram with a post very different from the usual fare of the musician and stand-up comedian who is open to satire about her Jewish heritage. You know, I'm Jewish, right? You guys know. Right? Yeah.

46:12 I don't know cows. I mill the rich dudes. With that said, she was stunned with comments from fourth graders at one of the LA schools where she teaches music enrichment. The first thing that happened is my heart sank and I didn't know what to do. I almost started crying. And the only thing I knew how to do was move the kids along to finish their projects and not address it in front of the whole class. A teacher, fourth-grade teacher, who just happens to be a comedian. Right. You know, a good friend of ours is a high school teacher in Austin.

46:54 And she is, I call her the liberal Austin high school teacher. And we love her very much because she's incredibly open to non-liberal thinking and talking. And she's a fun, fun person. We invite her to Thanksgiving. We like her. Jewish. She is so traumatized by the things going on. Not necessarily about Kanye, but again, Trump was kind of pulled into it and right-wing extremists and neo-Nazis. Her mother is British. She was talking to Tina the other day. She says, Oh, well, I got my British passport, so I'm now dual citizen.

47:35 So, you know, if Trump or any other horrible Republican is elected president, I am leaving the country and going to live in England. And I don't empathize with her level of trauma because the media is the same way they do with slavery. Yeah, yeah, I'm not saying that. Same way they do with slavery. The same way they do with everything else. Yes, I'm not saying it's Kanye's fault. I'm saying this is what the media is doing with these stories, literally at the school level. That's why I say this high school teacher is traumatized. That just goes round and round and round in those circles.

48:16 But I have one question for the Jewish people that's in power to silence Kanye. Why didn't we have this when he says slavery is a choice? When he went on a Jewish platform, TMZ and said something as incendiary and inflaming as slavery is a choice to traumatize black people. Let me be clear. To them, that was just as traumatic. But he didn't get canceled. Adidas, they didn't call for Adidas to cancel him.

48:59 They didn't call for anybody to drop him. So it's like, oh, it's only when certain groups are traumatized that we actually see real action. Yes. Well, Kanye picked the right one then. And this is what leads to the strained relationship. relationship between Jewish, I mean, black Americans and Jewish Americans. What do you mean? This is what leads to it. The fact that if you talk about one group, you see actual actions. Oh, no, of course. You know what's interesting, though? Yeah. I'm just, as you said that,

49:36 I don't. What didn't happen, or it was not in the script or whatever, what didn't happen is, wow, man, blacks hate Jews. That didn't happen. Conservative Republicans and Ye specifically. You know what I mean? There was none of that. Even though there's that tension, that tension was not brought up in any of these stories. Because they got to have it. They got to use the White Lives Matter shirt still. And if you make it between, they need to keep blacks and Jews together against Kanye.

50:16 Wait, so you're saying that. Wait, wait, you're telling me that the White Lives Matter was thought out that far in advance to make sure that that would be the hinge point or the trigger point? No, what I'm saying is the media can't, they use the White Lives Matter t-shirt to keep black people that's against Kanye enraged against him. Like, did you see what he said? And then with the George Floyd thing, did you hear what he said about George Floyd? You know, did you know, did you see the t-shirt he was wearing? Black people, you should be just as outraged as we are. You're right. You're right. He threw the Floyd thing in. Yep. So they can't, this is the problem. They had to cobble together these groups into, you know, collective.

51:01 But when you talk, you know, like you were saying, if you play that card, like black people are hateful towards Jewish people, then that strains, and then that pushes people over to Kanye's side or not even caring, which they have to have that outrage from black people as well. So let's go ahead and go back a little bit to the third real episode. And I did a mashup of that, the clip, a strained relationship. This is part one. Iconic photos of Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel marching alongside the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. encapsulates the best of the black-Jewish relationship at the time, often called the golden period between the two communities.

51:42 Rabbi Joachim Prince, who devoted much of his life to the American civil rights movement, spoke just before MLK took the podium in D.C. to deliver his famous I Have a Dream speech. Black and Jewish Americans continued the fight for civil rights during the 1964 Freedom Summer Project in Mississippi, where Jewish activists joined others helping register black voters and joined protests in front of courthouses. Jews had relatively greater access to education and finances, giving them more class mobility. These opportunities, combined in some part with the healthy bonds between the communities, enabled Jews to open businesses and buy property in predominantly black areas.

52:19 A degree of coexistence that sowed the seeds of discord. A Jew was now their boss, their landlord, or their creditor, playing into age-old anti-Semitic tropes. Yeah, and I would advise everybody to go listen to episode 76 because it's hard to summarize that tension in two minutes. You did a good job, but there's a lot of parameters there. Yeah, but I'm just saying the fact that you see one group going up. We started at the same level, supposedly, but then you see one group going up. Their families were left intact. They're allowed to worship in their beliefs and these kind of things.

53:01 You see all of this happening and it causes tension because at home, we marched together, but now we look back, what is that now? 1960, what, 60 years ago? Now we look back 60 years, your group has gained a lot while the black group has been stagnant. And that's going to naturally cause tension. Now, do you think that there is a belief that that is done intentionally? Yes. Yes. I mean, that's the thing. It has to be.

53:44 Like I said, when you look at rappers and who they're assigned to, and what I'm saying, my point is, it's business. If you sign a bad deal, it's your fault that you signed a bad deal. But when you're trying to get to quick money to develop your idea, whatever it is, you'll sign the bad deal. And you have people say, oh, Oh, we're brothers and we're brothers, you know, that kind of thing. We got to stick together, but it's like, oh, let's renegotiate the contract. It's like, I don't know about that. We got a contract. A contract's a contract. You understand what I'm saying?

54:22 All right, right, right. So, okay, so let's just put it this way. And, and, and, uh, see, this is this is the real crux. This is what Lex Friedman was trying to do with Kanye, which was a useless mission. Um, the difference between there's this industry, and this industry is run by a group of people, and that's fair to say in certain industries. Certain industries are the all key positions, just like if we're fair about it, men run all Fortune 500 companies except for a portion that are women. I mean, it's the same kind of thing, except you're not allowed to talk about one and you are allowed to talk about the other.

55:03 But if it comes down to strictly business, I think the music business is the one that is demonstrably provable which group of men run this, right? And here's the thing: in the climate we live in, if a woman has three, four bad experiences with men throughout her life, she could say, I hate men, men are terrible people. We need to destroy the patriarchy, you know, that kind of thing. And nobody bats an eye. They don't know Christians or Christians or Christians or whoever or whatever, fill in the blank.

55:47 I mean, we saw it with the war in the Middle East. You know, we didn't go and say, Let's go find the bad brown people. It's not entirely true because when the uh, when it was against uh, goodness, the Goya, the Goya beans guy, he always responds politically, but it's just him. There's not, I guess, there's not a lot of uh Mexican-American-owned uh big food businesses, but and you see how they're starting to treat free-thinking Hispanics once they start to think for themselves. Oh, no, no, they know they're they're on there. I think the Hispanics are well aware of what's going on, they're like, shit, man, who's next? The white guy or the brown guy, close call. But why is that?

56:30 Maybe even Joe Biden, you're not black if you don't vote for me, and nobody batted the eye. It's just like, okay, that's normal. Just think if when Trump said, I've done a lot for Jews and they owe me, oh, it was anti-Semitic. That's exactly what they did. That's exactly what they did. No, he wasn't. So Joe Biden could say, You're not black. It doesn't matter if you take out black and you write in Jewish and say, You're not Jewish if you don't vote for me. That's what the outrage would have been. You're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. There's your complete and utter hypocrisy. Now, by the way, John C. Dvorak and Adam Curry batted quite an eye over that. So to say nobody is also not fair. In the mainstream media, in the control, let's just call it the control media.

57:13 In the control media, in this bubble, nobody, and you had black people come out and explain the way for Joe Biden. Yeah. You know, and you have a term now called black, black. Oh, you're not black, black. You know, black. Wait a minute. Black? Yeah, black? Like, you might be black. Like, this is like the play on you. All skin folk ain't kinfolk. You know what I'm saying? You're not black, black if you don't think this way, which is really blue, black, because it's the democratic policies. If you don't agree with the democratic policies, then you ain't black. No, you ain't black, black. Right. You ain't black, black. Yeah. So black, black is now Democrat. Wow. Yes. Wow. In the media. I don't know. I got you. I got you.

57:55 I got you. I got you. Well, so I'm just saying, this is what this is this powder keg. I got you. I'm just going to teach you. I'm just going to take you down to the personal level. So yet, yourself included, are willing to submit to YouTube. And the reason is obvious because that's where the audience is right now. Right. You know, and I understand. But so what are you going to do when we move you from YouTube to podcasting 2.0? Are you going to do a Kanye? Let me be clear. I don't take any money from YouTube. Never have. Never signed up to be monetized or anything else.

58:36 And you take advantage of the audience building capabilities of the algorithm. Okay. All right. So you're paying for it one way or the other. Right. They're getting access to my material for free. And your social graph, who you associate with, a lot of stuff. Correct. But there's no paperwork. You see what I'm saying? Like, they can't control me. Like, my bills are not, I mean, my income is not affected if they delete my channel. Okay. That's the difference between this is why contract paperwork. paperwork and it alludes to imageries of slavery. Like, you know, you can, this plant, it's a big plantation. You know what I'm saying? Go all around the acres you want to.

59:15 But as soon as you step off of it, that's a problem. Right. But in general, coming from mainstream media, you are, you are, I mean, you can, you can call it a slave, you can call it a talking head, you can call it a puppet. That's why I kept getting fired is because there are certain things I just wouldn't do or I disagreed with. So it's controlled media. No matter who you are, they're controlling you if you're in it. And all this feeds into the trauma, which how they control the masses. You know, the media control the masses via trauma. So I'm just to keep going on the relationship and the strain relationship.

59:53 I want to hear Russell Simmons. He speaks about the Kanye situation, which he's done a ton of business with Jewish businessmen. So he has a great perspective. So I want to hear he's going to explain, you know, how those business dealings happen. Then one time I can tell you a great story how all the built buildings, every building on 125th Street, owned by Jews, all by Syrian Jews, too. So it's kind of interesting. The little families in Ocean Parkway owned all the real estate. Why did they own the real estate? Because black couldn't afford it and WASP didn't want to own it. Similar to when I was a kid and the Jews owned some of the candy stores and the grocery stores.

1:00:35 So why the Jews in our business? Because the WASP didn't want to be and the blacks couldn't afford it again. So from a business standpoint, we should see them. They got their hands dirty. Even in banking, they got their hands dirty. Money was dirty. So why are the Jews so close to us? They're in businesses that we are in, businesses that the WASP didn't like or didn't want. And then they ended up being the number one empowerment group for us in those businesses. But all of these things, it's not so complex. The Jews are where the WASP let them be. They don't control everything. They control what WASP let them control. And that's really our experience and reality and what they let them control.

1:01:21 Whether it's parts of the music business, parts of the film business, well, the film business. Jews were there. Oh, okay. Well, that's a fair assessment. I like Russell Simmons the way he does that. The WASP that controls the Jews. That's who calls their bullet phone. It's like, you're a lot. And when they say WASP, I'm just going to say white supremacy, which we describe on this show as a one-world government per Nilly Fuller. You can call them globalists. You can call them whatever you want to call them. And by the way, that's exactly who took over from the Catholics in action at the CIA: the WASPs.

1:02:02 Right. So they say, okay, we won't be as hard on you, Jewish people, as long as you don't cut a good deal with black people. And no, no, I'm just saying, and what I'm speaking from, I'm speaking from a, you know, just blanket terms here, but this is how it's perceived. And this is what I have to give you my perspective. Sure. No, I want to get to understanding what a bit you, like my man Grumps say. We got to get to the bit you understanding. So when, like you said, after 80 plus 80 episodes, when you saw what was going on, you had an understanding to say, oh, I know how that sounds to this person.

1:02:48 I know that's how that's received from this person. I understand that's a sensitive subject. And I understand from the Jewish aspect of it, the Holocaust was way after slavery. And they're way closer to it than we are to slavery. You see what I'm saying? So I understand from that, I understand from their point of any, they have to be sensitive to hear, you know what I'm saying, like, oh, we got to stamp that out. We got to stamp that out. We got to stamp that out. As you should. Anytime somebody says something negative about your group, you should stamp it out. What we as black people, so-called, have been bad at is not doing that, allowing people to paint us in a certain way or use imagery in a certain way.

1:03:34 You know what I'm saying? We neglected how harmful that is. And that even to the point of being traumatic and sensitive and being a snowflake. Oh, he said, just like Joe Biden was like, airplane seats are racist. Are you kidding me? What one of these interviews might have been with Friedman? Kanye went down the list. Maybe you have it later on. He went down the list of, you know, my people. people, you know, he ended up with half of the my people are being aborted. We're given overweight women to look at and telling us that's healthy. You know, all the shitty food is where we live. You know, my people, he said, my people.

1:04:18 And that was impactful. No one saw that, of course. That doesn't make the rounds like everything else. But that was, to me, was kind of a core message. Right. And one thing I'm going to highlight in a later show is Neely Fuller brings it up. He calls it racial showcasing. White supremacy operates this way. Let's take a handful of people and let them be successful. You feel what I'm saying? So that we can say, oh, they're successful black people. They're successful Jewish people. They're successful. You see what I'm saying? This racial showcasing. We're going to let certain people, and that's the bullet. And the bullet gets so comfortable in that success that they don't say anything.

1:05:02 It's like, I'm not going to give up my spot. I'm not going to give up my $1.5 billion. I'm not going to give up my nice house. I'm not going to give up whatever status I have in society, you know, to put it all on the line, you know, for my people. So, I mean, so we have to realize that at the end of the day, it's they, and we don't know who they are. That's why we call them they. You can call it the World Economic Forum. You can call it the Council of Foreign Relations. You can call it the UN or whatever you want to call it. But it's a handful of people that can say this is how we want social engineering society through trauma.

1:05:42 Yep. Well, now it's all traumatized. Now, when you learn how to become a journalist, you learn how to traumatize. It's now embedded in the learnings, in the teaching of how to do journalism today's journalism. And I'm going to say something here that I haven't said before, but they've kicked white people out of whiteness. It's another thing Neely Fuller talks about is white sacrifice. We got to have some white homeless people. You know what I'm saying? Like, we got to have some white people that's struggling. So then we can say, see, we got struggle too. But this is how they control it. So there are certain so-called white people that ain't white no more.

1:06:21 Y'all orange. No, I'm serious. I say that with the seriousness because what do they call it? Orange man. And if you agree with orange man, you're orange. You're a colored person now. You know what I'm saying? Because you ain't going along with the program. Yeah. You're not going along with trans. Right. You're not going along with trans. You're not going along with, you know, whatever, you know, eating bugs or whatever. If you're not with this, you're not with us, you're orange now. You're a color. You're a person of color. Right. Cool. So that's, this is what's happening. And this system has been around for a long time.

1:06:57 And it's not, it's the, it's an anti-justice system. It's not, we're going to deal with each other on a system of basis of justice to say, you know, these are the rules and we want to judge by the rules. It's off of preferential treatment. What's so interesting, though, is the path that Kanye chose to do this is a path that is so hard. I mean, it's almost like vax anti-vax within families to have this conversation. Correct. It's a real tough one. And how people say all doctors are bad. You see what I'm saying? Like all doctors are bad because, you know, you didn't say anything against the vaccine. All nurses are bad or all pharmaceutical workers are bad.

1:07:35 You know, it's the same thing. We just all lump. They give us a target to go at. And that's why I was very careful about not getting to that vax or anti-vaxxer thing. I'm pro-choice. That's when the infringement happens when you took my choice away. A person can be pro if you want to get 19 boosters. Hey, Mo, go for it. Do you have your kids talked to you about this? Have they asked you about this? Or is this a conversation at all that you did at home? My 19-year-old daughter, who just turned 19 today, happy birthday, and I had one turn 13 yesterday, which is as a quick aside. This is how dedicated I am to the show because

1:08:15 to be recorded on one of my children's birthday, but this had to be done and it couldn't wait any longer. I just wanted to make that point. Is the car pink that you have to buy her? No, no car. No car, but you know, it definitely did cost me. It did cost me. We appreciate it. Yeah. So I'm just, I wanted to make that point. So you asked me, yes. I always ask, especially my, because my younger children aren't on social media, but my oldest is. And I'll ask her, so what'd you hear about this? And I don't lead them. You know, I don't, and I'll get an honest, some, honest intel of her perception of it. It's like, oh, she like Kanye said some anti-Semitic things. you know, but she's not with like, I don't think people should be canceled for what they say.

1:09:01 If you want to unfollow somebody, go for it. You know, if you want to even mute them on social media, go for it. But we shouldn't, and that's that was her perspective on it. But she, you know, but is it traumatizing for her in any way? No, I mean, as intended, right? As intended, trauma-based entertainment. Because she's not Jewish. So it's not that. But I mean, I'm sure the White Lives Matter thing, she was like, that's kind of off color. You know what I'm saying? Like, that, come on. You know, why would you do that? You know, which is our honest opinion, which I never try to shape my children's opinion and make them drones.

1:09:42 So that's the boots on the ground from the teenager in the house. So let's go ahead and get into the strange relationship. And I'm harping on this because this is how they create the trauma. It's not about throwing rocks across at each other because honestly, a lot of us are on the bottom. You know what I'm saying? Like a lot, most of 99.99999% of us are on the bottom as far as under who controls it. Now they have different levels, you know, of okay, you're here and you're here and you're here and you're here. And but it's the agreed,

1:10:21 whether it's stated or not stated, that black people are going to be on the bottom of the bottom. They have to stay there. And everybody is kind of bought into it in a sense because nobody comes when. And I have to say this: Hispanics don't really come out and rep for black people when we're offended, but then they sell us the Black and Blown Brown Coalition or Black and Brown Alliance. You see what? With anti-Asian hate, you had a lot of black celebrities getting behind that, you know, but you didn't see a lot of that coming back the other way. So it leads to the perception, and in my mind, it's a reality.

1:11:03 It's like, well, they got to do for themselves. And if they're okay with it, I'm okay with it. That's the perception, how people look at us. But that's what's stopping now. Because those black thumbs, you know, we got the power of influence. And when those thumbs get to working and shouting down people in comment sections and posting and memes and all of this stuff, it's a very powerful force, which I think Kanye's trying to tap into. I'll say that. Okay. Well, if he can, then he will be a legit billionaire.

1:11:40 Hey, I mean, he can't. Let's see. But, all right, let's go back into the strain relationship just to see how it unraveled further into the 80s and 90s. Throughout the 1970s and 80s, the bonds between the Jewish and black communities strained under growing racial tensions in urban America. Atlanta's first Jewish mayor employed racist rhetoric in his re-election campaign against black challenger Maynard Jackson. In 1984, presidential hopeful Jesse Jackson made a number of anti-Semitic comments, referring to Jews as Jaimes. The growth and increased visibility of the anti-Semitic nation of Islam didn't help matters.

1:12:19 As the Israeli-Palestinian conflict drew greater international attention, division between the communities mounted as Palestinians were increasingly seen as people of color, with Jews seen as white oppressors. And while many in both communities continue to cherish the golden period of the 50s and 60s, others began to portray Jewish support for civil rights as paternalistic and therefore just another form of racism. More recently, old wounds were reopened when voices within movements like Black Lives Matter and the Women's March made anti-Semitic and anti-Zionist remarks. In 2019, extremists connected to the Black Hebrew Israelite movement were responsible for the murder of four people, including two Jews, at a Jersey City synagogue and kosher supermarket.

1:13:02 For some, these are simply isolated incidents. For others, this violence points to a broader, unacknowledged anti-Semitism reflected in anti-Defamation Week polls that find black Americans are significantly more likely than white Americans to accept anti-Semitic stereotypes. I'd like to add to the clip list for a second. Because it was fun to hear, because I remember it, Jesse Jackson referring to Jaimes. Right. Because I remember that. I remember that outrage, you know, vaguely in my memory, but I certainly remember it. Around that same era, there was another outrage. Now, not by a black entertainer, by a white entertainer, Marlon Brando.

1:13:44 You may not remember this. No, I don't. Marlon Brando was really against the Academy. He hated the whole movie business. Recently, he was in the news because he had what at the time was supposed to be some Native American Indian girl accept the award on his behalf. And she could barely speak English. Thank you. Turns out she was Mexican. She just died recently. And so the family came out and said, oh, by the way, that was fake. But anyway. So it was white Marlon Brando literally saying the Jews control Hollywood.

1:14:22 Now listen to Norm McDonald, rest in peace, of course, a white comedian, and how this, I mean, there's a lot of layers to this, so it's just 40 seconds, but you just want you to hear it. Last week on Larry King Live, Marlon Brando made the shocking statement that Hollywood is, quote, run by Jews. In response, outraged Jewish organizations made it snow in New York in April. Well, earlier this week, actor Marlon Brando met with Jewish leaders to apologize for comments he made on Larry King Live, among them that, quote, Hollywood is run by Jews.

1:15:06 The Jewish leaders accepted the actor's apology and announced that Brando is now free to work again. See the difference in response? Yes. And well, since you're bringing up clips, I don't have the clip, but I saw it before I was coming on the show. They found tape of Charlemagne the God basically saying the same thing. Uh-oh, uh-oh, not Charlemagne. And this is this is what this is why Kanye is a problem. He's building the fence so high that for fence sitters, if you fall off of it, you're going to break your neck. There's no more fence sitting, and it's not about who's on both sides of the fence.

1:15:49 It's about us. You know, you're not going to be able to play both sides. As my man E-Class stated, and it was in the wire, like, String of Bell is playing too many away games. You know what I'm saying? It's going to be no more away games as far as Charlemagne talked one way, talk black when he's around black people. You know, but then he goes and you know, goes in the air and talks another way. He talks blue. You see what I'm saying? It's like, no, you got to talk what's best for us at all times. And it's, isn't it good for everybody else? I mean, everybody else have these insular tribal behaviors.

1:16:29 Why is it all of a sudden when we want to get tribal? It's a problem. You know, Adolfs were called black, I mean, Russian bots for wanting to be tribal, and they were scared back into a hole. They always do this, like, get back in your hole. You know, that's that's, you know, whatever talk it is that's anti-immigrant. You know, you're the black MAGA, and it kind of scared and spooked them off. You know, but what, go ahead? And who's saying that? Who's saying to get back in your hole? The media. Who cuts Joy Ann Reed's check? Right. Right, the black person. Yeah. Like, who cuts her check? So you're saying to say we are Russian bots

1:17:11 and informed that narrative. And just to make one more point, since you're saying you talk about the Academy right quick, we listened to the Will Smith show and they had no problem saying Hollywood is too white and too male. Nobody batted the eye. Right. But what, you know, what's the sub-segment in that white and male, quote-unquote, you know, it's convenient to, you know, say that, but then it's like, if you say Hollywood's too Jewish and male, oh my God, you know what I'm saying? We're cushing our pearls. And it's just that, why is it? But like I said, the WAFs set it up that way. They had to have a group, you know, that they could, you know, trust to control the media.

1:17:54 And even, you know what I'm saying? Even, I mean, yes, I mean, that's that's the setup. We always got to go back to who they are. And even in this case, they are not Jewish people. Because I'm going to say this, and it might be inflammatory as far as my perception, the Jewish existence is very fragile. It's not a coincidence Israel surrounded by Muslim countries. In fact, the Iron Dome can go away at any time. In fact, God says we need to pray for Israel. You see what I'm saying? Like that, that's the pressure point they have on

1:18:38 them is that that Iron Dome, just like how we used to have to come and beg for HBCU every four years. They got to come and beg for defense funds every four years. This system is something else. And it has hierarchies. That's the quote right there. This system is something else. They've been building it for a couple of generations. It's pretty solid. It's not going to go away overnight either. Although, yeah, we're seeing some chinks in the armor. Sorry for the racial overtone. We're seeing some cracks in the walls. There you go. Yeah.

1:19:14 So you have those cracks being that you have the independent media is pointing these things out and the way information is being shared. You can find clips of Charlamagne God saying things. You know, you can find those Marlon Blando clips and share them. You can have memes that inspire people's thoughts and make them see contradictions and hypocrisy. We've never been here before. Before, if I wanted to show you all this information, I would have to dig up books. You know what I'm saying? Stacks and stacks of books. Yes. You know, and say, oh, and in this book, on this page, this is what it said.

1:19:55 Okay, so I just want to say something. Because I need to put it into your head. Okay. Elon Musk is no different. And he's being seen as a savior right now. I'm not saying by you, but by a lot of people. And right now we're getting, oh, look at that. You know, now I can post Democrats eat babies. I can post anything I want. Nothing's happening. It's a trick. It's a ruse. And he's trying to draw everybody in, and everyone will have to register their identity with Twitter.

1:20:37 And that's when it'll be over, but people won't realize how over it will be. So the sooner people start looking at real alternatives, the better, because the Elon Musk Twitter thing, in my opinion, is a trap. I've said that from day one. It's starting to play out. You have been consistent on this point, and I don't disagree with that. Okay. So I just, I just let me share something with you. You can pass it on to the black and brown community, Mo. Let me share something with black and brown. Let me share something with you. Please. Is that we're going to test the limits. There's a golden window here. No doubt about it. A golden window. We've been here before.

1:21:18 Like I said, we've been here. This is the reason why they called us Russian bots. And taking that shadow banning off, and people will hit me. I can see your tweets again. We're going to test and see how far we could push it because we got the midterms about to end now. And then we go full swing into 2024. And when I say we, it's not a collective group because, you know, I don't do groups. It's the fact that I can pick up my smartphone like I did back in 2013, 14 and get these black thumbs to working. Oh, no, and believe me, what is happening right now with Twitter? I am 100% convinced this is conservative money, right-wing thinking, right-wing ideas.

1:22:05 We're going to blow up the Democrats. We're going to remove the groomers. There's no doubt about it. Becoming the dominant force in the American Congress and possibly in two years in the American presidency is worth a lot of money to a lot of people. So this is a big ass move. And Elon is just a character in the whole game. It's a big, big move. And so I'm just saying, you know, be careful what you wish for because it's, you know, it's not like one party is better than the other necessarily. Certainly not when they get into power. And we still clear on this, but the asking price is the same.

1:22:47 But we still need to develop our own systems and our own networks away from any control, any control, whether it's a bunch of ex-Russians, whether it's some crazy China-loving guy, whether it's China. We got to get away from all of that. And we can. So that's my message amongst all of this is don't get all jacked up because it ain't going to be that pretty in the end with this system either. And I have by design, kind of stopped the lost tapes on the black Twitter episode with Elon Musk.

1:23:26 Yeah. I always talk about the apparatus has been built already. Who's going to be in control of it? Yeah. And it ain't going to be as pretty. when the conservatives are in control of it. No. You know, it's gonna be, it's gonna be 1950s. You know, the censorship that went on. You don't know, but it's it people just get corrupted. It may be great for a year or two or 20, but people get corrupted. Ideology. It's ideology. Yeah, it's money. No, I'm gonna disagree. It's money. Fuck ideology. At the end of the day, it's money that drives the entertainment business to do things.

1:24:09 It's money that drives banks to do things. All the banks put together could supply Israel with all the money they need to buy or build their own iron dome. They're not doing it because it's bad business. They're not allowed to. It's all money. Let's be clear. They're not allowed to. And this is where we get to the correct. Because then you make Jewish people autonomous. No, no, no, no, no. We got to have them come back and beg every four years, you know, so they can keep that iron dome on their head and keep their safety. Right. You know, it's the same thing with Black Lives Matter and whatever else. It's like, you're going to come back.

1:24:48 We're going to promise you something. Things are going to get better and see us in four years. It's the same thing. So I just want to make that clear. But this is the interview I've been waiting on. And this is that you, you, you had mentioned it previously. I watched the whole thing. I watched the whole thing. I love it. It's a very, it's a, it's a very interesting interview because Kanye understood he was there to be handled in my from my perspective. Because when he came in there, he came in there like a six-year-old kid going to the principal's guidance counselor. No, a guidance counselor. Like, Kanye, tell me why you're sad. You know, that kind of thing. And he even played into it.

1:25:30 He got the little piece of paper and the pen, you know, writing down. Right. And like drawing stuff. Like, oh, where'd he touch you, Kanye? That kind of thing. You know what I'm saying? He played into that. But by the time he left there, once he figured out what footing he was on, it switched up. And I'm not going to spoil it for people, but we're going to get into this clips now. So this is the first clip with him and Lex. Let's get into part one. In Nazi Germany, science was used to create atrocities. Engineering, the same. Engineering could be a tool of war. We are still in the Holocaust. A Jewish friend of mine said,

1:26:16 come visit the Holocaust Museum. And my response was, let's visit our Holocaust Museum, Planned Parenthood. With all due respect, I grew up in the Soviet Union. I'm Jewish. Parts of my family perished in the Holocaust of Nazi Germany. I have to push back that there is a difference of the atrocities at that scale, at that time, on an entire people. I was going to say the number, that's the difference. It's not the number. Yep. So he triggered Lex with the, and he triggered a lot of people with this

1:27:03 planned parenthood is our Holocaust. And if we're just talking about end goal, population control, genocide, it is what it is. I mean, we talked about this with eugenics and things like that. You know, so this is also a very embarrassing chapter, which stems from not too in the not too distant past American history, which, of course, is obfuscated, but which can be argued was very influential on Hitler himself with his own eugenicist ideas and practices. Right.

1:27:43 So, but when you talk about the Holocaust, that's kind of trademarked. Oh, definitely. As their brand, it's a plight as their plight. I mean, as their plight, this is our specifically. And just to be 100% fair, you have the same thing when you talk about slavery because one of the comebacks when we start talking about slavery is we all were slaves at some point. And it's very demeaning to say that to black people to say, okay. Well, but we all were slaves.

1:28:24 Here's the thing that kind of got me is because I would imagine, maybe not, but I would imagine Kanye has family members. members in his family lineage back to slavery who were slaves, whipped, beaten, killed, right? But when Lex Friedman says it, he says, I have family members who died in the Holocaust. Lex wasn't around when that happened. Right. You know, and I just think that would have been a good one for Kanye to come back with. Like, oh, well, let me show you my family tree. Let me show you what happened to them. But as you pointed out earlier, 400 years ago versus 80 years ago.

1:29:06 Right. 90 years ago. Yeah. And there's no really, I mean, you have a lot of imagery from the Holocaust due to technology recordings. But we got some good trauma-based entertainment that Hollywood has produced for the half-manufacture it. That's the whole point is that we don't have the footage. So we have to manufacture it to keep these people under mind control under trauma-based mind control. But like I said, I can, just in all fairness, because Matt Walsh and what's the guy named from Black Guns, Matt Maj, Tarae had a Twitter beef. And it was part of a lost tape that we recently did that I kind of took out because I just didn't have time for it.

1:29:49 But Matt Walsh did that. We all were slaves. And Maj is like, you're making it hard for us and us, he's talking about black conservatives to communicate to black people about being conservative when you make statements like this. You see what I'm saying? Because, yeah, we understand there was Roman slaves and not our slaves, but we're talking about this American slavery here, this system, and the impacts of it, you know, and we're still seeing it to this day. It's the reason why Planned Parenthood is located where it's located and their messaging is targeted the way it is because it wants to get rid of black people.

1:30:31 And that's, you could say that's real. You could say, oh, well, they want to get rid of all poor people. True. But we're talking about the numbers. You know what I'm saying? Like Kylie was saying, we're talking about the numbers. Half? Seriously, half? That's crazy. Right. And so I'm just going to say it like that. And then I'm sure you heard this clip, but we got to get into it. How Stacey Abrams, a black woman, goes on to MSNBC and tried to sell reproductive rights as an economic issue. Abortion is an economic issue. It's been reduced to this idea of a culture war. But for women in Georgia, this is very much a question of whether they're going to end up in poverty in the next five years because women who are forced to carry unwanted pregnancies end up in poverty within five years.

1:31:19 They're four times more likely to be impoverished in five years. They're twice as likely to be on food stamps. This is an economic issue and it's being reduced to this culture conversation. So, Ms. Abrams, back to the root of Joe's question that he just asked you. You're running for governor of Georgia. I would assume, maybe incorrectly, but while abortion is an issue, it nowhere reaches the level of interest of voters in terms of the cost of gas, food, bread, milk, things like that. What can a governor, what could you do as governor to alleviate the concerns of Georgia voters about those livability, daily, hourly issues that they're confronted with?

1:32:01 But let's be clear: having children is why you're worried about your price for gas. It's why you're concerned about how much food costs. For women, this is not a reductive issue. You can't divorce being forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy from the economic realities of having a child. And so these are, it's important for us to have both and conversations. We don't have the luxury of reducing it or separating them out. She's literally inhumane. That's the same argument Janet Yellen made, our Treasury Secretary. Right. The economic argument. And then you look at that through the lens of the racial wealth gap.

1:32:44 It's like, oh, you don't want to be poor. You know what you got to do? And Joe Scarborough asked a question, which I didn't play before. And then the other guy alluded to it. Like, he was trying to get her back on the rails. Like, hold on. Like, we don't want to say that part out loud. Don't put it that way, but that's the way it is. And when you're in a vulnerable situation with money, you know, inflation the way it is and your money not what it used to be. You didn't have any money at first, first of all. But then you're going to exacerbate the issue with inflation.

1:33:21 A lot of people having to make a lot of tough decisions. And it's like, I think with inflation the way it is, if your kid is under five, you should be able to get rid of it. You know, just kill that kid. Just drain on my wallet. You said that in jest? No, this is where the thinking is. They literally were at two because Melissa Perry, Melissa's Harris Perry, they were making that case of like, oh, two and under. Oh, man. No, that's what I said. You say that in jest, but that's no good. So that's what we're looking at: is when you put all this together, and I could, it's that's why I'm happy you said what you said.

1:34:03 That having this conversation with me, you at least had an understanding of, okay, that's how that's taken. That's how that's taken. You know, when you have her come out and say this, and you know who her target demographic is, and why she was selected to be the candidate, it's because she's female, black, you know. Sure, sure. So that's. I remember the former New York banker years ago, he said, Stacey Abrams, she's the sees the rising star. Now, whether he believes in it or not, he was telling me she was the rising star with this before the first Georgia election. Until she ran into these black thumbs. And it's whoever they put up, we knock them right back down.

1:34:49 And now, when I say we part of how I got into this, shall I tell you something? Yeah, go ahead. Because I want to talk, don't want to talk to you, tell you something. How interesting. I just realized you almost never show up by my timeline until yesterday. I'm telling you, yesterday, you showed up with your black thumbs. Black thumbs matter. And I understood what you were saying. Now it's, it's, it's much, it's, so I was already aware of this, but the whole point that I, in fact, saw one of your tweets is quite astounding. And that's all we're asking for. That's all.

1:35:30 I remember the wild, wild west, you know, priest 2016. And when that happened to Hillary, they were like, oh, no, lock it down. We don't have the, we don't have the high-minded black people. You know, we don't have the high-minded, you fill in the blank. I mean, whatever it is. I mean, we used to be scared to say stuff about trans people, you know, that kind of thing, but it's wild, not us. I'm saying like the collective. Like it was kind of like, oh, you know, that, you know, just let them be them. That kind of thing. But when you start talking about children, it's like, whoa, whoa, that's going too far. Just like with abortion, it's like, if that's your personal choice, I might not agree with it, but then you have it being pushed as a solution.

1:36:11 Like, whoa, whoa, like, this is the extremeness of the situation that causes people to push back. And the only thing we can do is get out, get our thumbs to the movie. It's, it'll be very interesting to see how, if you look at this in the light of all of these different industries, really worried. I think they're really worried in a way. You know, look, here, here's, I'm going to tell you what Kanye has to do next. Kanye's going to say, you can only pay me in Bitcoin. That'll be smart. Dude. Dude. But we'd have to surround him to protect him. He'll probably say yay coin. No, Kanye. I mean, there's annoying me. He better not do a Yay coin. No, no, no.

1:36:55 That'll be the end of it. No, no, no. No. Just to be fair, I mean, he has an ego, which, I mean, you got to have an ego to make it. Sure, sure, sure. Sometimes you got to, people say yay, put your ego aside. And if you don't do, if you're thinking of doing a yay coin, don't. Man, we got ranchers doing Bitcoin now because they can reach an audience that wants to listen and have a conversation. And that's just more than money. It's a vibe. It's people who want to trust each other. And that's just a preview to a future show because you brought up Kanye and talking about the eating habits of people. It was so much I could put into the show. And this, but remember what people used to laugh about food deserts?

1:37:37 I never laughed about it. No, I'm just saying, like, when you said, like, oh, who can't find something to eat? I mean, a food there, you know, that kind of thing. Yeah, that's really. It's like, now we're all living in a food desert. That's right. So just pay attention when these things are brought up. But let's go ahead and get back to Lex. And now we're going to go to part three. That's what we deal with on our TVs right now with black people. Soros would use black trauma economy for to win an election. What I love is having a healthy conversation. And as opposed to there's certain things, you know, boom, this drops, people are going to have pussy hats on. Boom. This drops. It's going to be, you know, black people and white people with signs. Boom.

1:38:21 This drops. So, hey, China, hey. hey, left agenda. Hey, what we're going to do is say that our species can have a healthy conversation. Can I just linger on this? Because when you say Jewish media, there's an echo of a pain that people feel that reminds me of no, I'm not saying it's redundant. I'm saying it's redundant. That was pretty funny. Pretty funny. No, I'm just saying, but that's the triggering. That's why I said he started out as the give me the piece of paper and I'm just going to draw on it.

1:39:02 La la. You know what I'm saying? But he understood, oh, you're here to get an apology. Yeah. And they picked Lex for a reason. And I can say that I don't know Lex. It's nothing personal against him, but he's from Chicago. He's in the music. You know, that kind of thing. Like, who could we get? Who would Kanye respect? He's the perfect guy. That was why he used the most anticipated interview. And that's what I was waiting on to see who they're going to send, you know, to sit down and get that apology for Ye - like a real apology. Not know, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm sorry if I offended. You know, that kind of apology, non-apology, what people call it.

1:39:43 Because that's kind of what it was. I mean, he was apologizing to people that he didn't offend or shouldn't be offended, but the people he was meaning to defend, he didn't apologize to them. And that's kind of what Lex was sent there to do, to get that apology. There's an echo of a pain that people feel that reminds me of redundant, right? No, I'm not saying it's redundant. I'm saying it's redundant. You're saying it's redundant. It's a redundant. I'm not saying it's something that you're saying that it's something that Joseph Goebbels, the propaganda minister of Nazi Germany, said. I'm saying it's been said so many times in order to murder and torture Jewish people that it just rings wrong.

1:40:28 And that's just like the N-word when spoken by people that have the same skin color as me. It reminds people of a very dark time. Since he's a student of history, I would hope that Lex, when he's discussing the Nazi propaganda minister, would pronounce his name correctly, which is Goebbels. There's no R in Goebbels. Always makes that a very weak point. In my opinion, if you don't know the guy's name had no R in it, except for Heinrich, I think, Goebbels, then you don't really know everything. It's the meme. It's weak. It's a meme. Yeah, it's a meme. That's the meme. It's just like, throw that name out there.

1:41:11 And then he also tried to trigger Kanye back with the N-word trigger. No, that was a key part of the interview. I totally agree. I love Kanye. Oh, you're pissed off because it's redundant. And then he gets this. That's not a dumb guy, by the way, Professor Galloway. That's not a guy who is having a mental health crisis. That's a guy who knows exactly what he's saying. Because you know what? Because I hope people go watch it because it's the non-verbal cues that's there. Like he would say, after he said that, he would get this big S-eating grin across his face.

1:41:48 I saw it. Yeah, like, you know what I'm saying? You're not here to handle me. And it kind of turned into a conversation rather than an interview because Kanye would end his statements with questions, you know, coming back. So he was the most disrespectful thing to say is Kanye is crazy. Yeah. Well, that's what most would say. And it's, and I'm going to show you the hypocrisy. Did you know Beyonce had to recall her album? Yes. Because it had the word spaz on it. Yeah. Of course. Which we've been using spaz in our community for, you know, we're going to spazz out. You know what I'm saying? Whatever. They made her recall and re-record it because it had that one word on it.

1:42:32 So you see the power of they, but then they can say, yeah, it's crazy. He's crazy. Everybody, he's crazy. He's a madman. And that's okay. What about his mental health rights? What about his protections as being part of a protected group of mental health? See, that goes right out the window. Of course. So I just want to point that out. No, you're not telling me. You're not telling me anything new, Mo. This is. Yeah. It's exactly like, why could this person say that on Twitter? And this person can't say that on Twitter. It's all bias. It's all they. It's all bullet phones. Absolutely. So now we're going to go to this

1:43:14 set of clips I have. And this is from the Jewish Community Center of San Francisco. They have a panel of three. three Jewish people from the media, and they talk about Jews' money in the media. So let's go and get into part one. One place in which it gets tricky, though, is that in the structure of the American political system, there's sort of a fine line between philanthropy and influence peddling. You know, I live in Washington, D.C., been living and working there for a decade. And there's a lot of nonprofit organizations in Washington that I'm not sure you would necessarily call charities in a traditional sense. They're advocacy groups, they're trade associations. And of course, there's political campaigns. They all have different tax statuses.

1:43:58 But Jewish people are a very disproportionate share of a lot of that money that comes into the political system. It comes in on different sides. I mean, we're talking about Shel Nadelson, who was a huge donor on the Republican side, but it's really Democrats get a huge amount of their money really from Jewish donors because Jews tend to be Democrats. Jews are more affluent than many of the people in the Democratic Party. But that, you know, I think most people think of political giving as it's often looked askance at. But the people who do it, you know, they like to think of themselves as being very high-minded. And it's not something that I think, you know, you always know exactly how to discuss it in the right way.

1:44:40 It's not always obvious what's really going on when people sort of give in that way. Kind of dancing around it. Yeah. So this reason why I play that clear, we talk about Soros and his influence with money and he has Democratic viewpoints. So which is now kind of since the recalls in San Francisco and California in general, it's now a little more accepted to say Soros is buying these crappy people. At least that part, that part. I still think it's viewed as anti-Semitic. You know, I mean, I think not from my viewpoint, but if you're a Democrat and you say it, it's not anti-Semitic.

1:45:27 Say that again. If you're a Democrat and you say it, which is what people were saying in San Francisco, recalling the Attorney General, the state's attorney, district attorney, I'm sorry, who was just letting criminals out. They were saying, hey, this guy was put in by Soros. Was Democrats saying that? And Democrats recalled it. And I didn't hear any talk of anti-Semitism there when they brought up Soros. So that's just another interesting point. It's the same way as Joe Biden can say, you ain't black, you don't vote for me. It's this fluid kind of who can say what and when kind of situation that, no, we're going to hold you responsible.

1:46:12 You know, we're going to, and I think everybody's getting like that. Like, because if you live in that lie, that's the center of mind control where you can see two things that are the same and say they're different. Yeah. And I think people are past that. You know, people saw it with the vaccine. It's like, no, that's crazy. You know, paper mask, you know, that kind of thing. Like, what? Like, why are we still doing that? But, you know, I'm just showing like the fluid, how things can be fluid. But that leads to only dismantle what they are trying to push. That's their own, that's their Achilles heel is hypocrisy. Sure.

1:46:55 Because they have to lie and do, you know, be hypocrites for their system even to work. So let's go ahead and get to part two of this. It's very interesting. George Soros, who might be thought of as equivalent on the left, is steadfastly disdained giving to media. He gives to universities, he gives to human rights organizations, he gives to electoral reform and so on, drug reform, all kinds of causes, stays strictly away from media. But at the same time, if you think of, say, the New York Times is not a charity, but at the same time, you know, it's a family-controlled business.

1:47:33 It's a Jewish family. I think the general understanding among everyone is that they could, you know, sell it out and make more money than they make owning it. But it's seen as a trust, as some kind of a public service and a public responsibility that they're doing. And it's in some ways it's an act of charity. I mean, it's probably the greatest newspaper in the world. It does invaluable stuff, but it is also a way of becoming players and influential people in the American scene. And I think you can't delink charitable influences from a desire for a certain kind of social power. Right. Well, let's. Yeah.

1:48:20 So, this is kind of where I see maybe Kanye's trying to be his own soros kind of thing. You know, that could be. You know, using his money and influence, you know, to back people like Candace Owens, you know, which obviously, I mean, he wrote the check for Parler, which, like you said, I don't see what the benefit is. You know, the more I think the more I think about what you, you know, what you clued me into, it was probably no cash. It was probably a, you know, a value for value. Look, I'm going to be Ye'm and put my name on this thing.

1:49:00 You're going to do the back-end technology and we'll split revenue somehow. But they're definitely going to solidify Parliament as a provider so they could white label other social networks for other people. I think that's the business they want to be in. So I don't think there was any money that changed hands. It was probably a straight up stock deal. You know, it's probably papered. I hope it is. And I hope Ye got what he wanted. And a telltale sign we could see is if, because Kanye said he saw Parler, he really likes Instagram. So if we see Parliament go more towards the Instagram kind of format, yeah, which is really not set up to be and you really can't do. Okay, you would be the subject matter expert compared to me on this.

1:49:44 Well, anything can be done, but I mean, turning parlor into a picture and video site, it's a whole different interface experience. Well, anything's possible. Anything's possible. Well, the reason what I'll take from that is being meme friendly. Because I see even Twitter went to this multiple images kind of thing where you could post mixed formatting. Yeah. Like you post a video with it. So it's more of that. Okay. It's because like Instagram is very powerful as far as getting a message across in an image.

1:50:24 You know, it's that thousand words thing where I can image artificial intelligence also can't identify the meaning of an image easily. Correct. So I think I would say more of just being meme friendly. That would be, I think that's where social media is really going because people hate text walls. I mean, that's, I'm one of those people. If I see a text wall, I'm not, I'm, I'm, I'm disengaging. What do you mean, a text wall? That's like a long paragraph. No, give it, give, you know, like, we goldfish out here. You know, like, give me, give me what you're saying while you're saying it. And that's the way our brain has been shaped. Yes. This is why TikTok is eating everybody's lunch.

1:51:09 Exactly. Exactly. Because it's more, it's condensing the condensed to the point where it's like pure crack. It's like, here, you know what I'm saying? Like, get your hit and keep moving. And that's, oh, yeah. And funny that you brought that up that TikTok didn't ban Kanye. Could the Chinese see a benefit in it? And he spoke against the Chinese government. So I just found that funny that in the previous clip we played that TikTok is one of the people that hadn't banned him yet. So I just wanted to bring that point up while we were talking about TikTok. I hadn't realized that. And I'll tell you that that's not something the American media will tell you because they're all afraid of TikTok.

1:51:50 They don't want anyone to know Ye's still on there. But of course, Ye's not really using it. Never been on it. I have a TikTok. I mean, anything come new, I'll sign up. I even got a new Prawler account, you know. So, I mean, I always want to secure the name just in case, you know, whatever pops off pops off. So now we're going to go into 13, I believe. Now they're going to get into a hot button issue. I know. If Jewish people would accept that I'm Jew, then they would see what I'm saying in a different way. They would hear it in a different way. But see, the people, you saying you're Jewish, that, no, I'm Jew, not Jewish. Jewish means like that of a Jew. I'm saying I'm Jew. You're a Jew. Blood of Christ. That's Orthodox Christian.

1:52:35 Right. But that, are you, are you a follower of the philosophy of the black Hebrew Israelites? Because that's where the idea comes from. Not all of those folks are extremists, but some are extremists. Yeah, now we get into a whole nother area that is poorly understood. This is a big unspoken issue between blacks, some blacks and some Jewish people on no. who is Jewish, who is Jew, and Kanye was triggering even more.

1:53:14 Like I said, I got to call a spade a spade, you know what I'm saying? As far as Kanye came into his interview very to be very triggering. And like he said, when he said, no, I'm Jew. Jewish is you trying to basically be like me. So he was, like I said, he either he's completely out of his mind, which it could be. I don't know. I don't know him. Or it's, I'm going to see how far. And this is what got him banned. It wasn't even the drink champs challenge to Adidas. It was when this dropped. I believe. If my timeline is correct, because like he was

1:53:54 to say, I'm Jew and you're Jewish. Now, how does he mean that? Because I'm sure the next clip will explain it. But I mean, do you want to explain? Do you want to listen first? You tell me. So, so from I'm going to give you just a loose interpretation of how this goes. If you say black people were the first people on earth, right? That's kind of everybody out of Africa, you know, kind of thing. You know what I'm saying? It all started there. And that's what kind of science tells the science, you know, trust the science. That's what it tells us. Yeah. You know, you know, the first people were black. Maybe. I don't know. I mean, that is definitely accepted an accepted idea. Yeah. Right. If we're going to go by that idea, then

1:54:39 how can Adam and Eve not be black? Yeah, exactly. And if that's the case, then wouldn't that make the Jewish people or Jews black? You know what I'm saying? Of course. No, I've quite a bit. If you want to have it both ways, you know what I'm saying? If you want to have your science, I'm weak. Hey, are you going to have your science? Is Adam or Eve a popular name for black kids? No. No, exactly. No, I mean, I don't know. Do I know? I don't know a black Adam. I know a rapper named Eve, but I mean, that's about it. But I'm just telling you, that's what it very boiled down.

1:55:17 No, of course. If you're going to say, if you're going to use science and say we all come from Africa, so we're all black, but then, yeah, of course, the story breaks down. Of course it does. So that's where this goes. And then Lex triggers him by lumping him in as with a perceived terrorist group. So now we got to go back and see: are black people accepted as Jewish? And I got this from I-24 News. And this is Rabbi Mordecai Ben Abraham, Abraham, excuse me. And they brought him on to speak about Kanye and black people being Jews and whatnot. And we don't have to play all of these, but I just want to see how I-24, I think, stands for Israel 24.

1:56:01 They brought this black rabbi on, and he's going to speak on black people being Jewish. Rabbi Mordechai Yosefa ben Avraham, a former music producer from LA, turned rabbi and the author of the book, The Mind of the Black Jew, joins us now in studio. What a biography. I want to ask you more about yourself, not about Kanye West. But I will ask about both of you. Are you a fan of Kanye West as an artist? You know, Kanye is probably one of the great creative minds of our generation. He's revolutionized the sound of music. Kyle's presented, and he's done an amazing job merging fashion and music together.

1:56:43 And so he's a phenomenal, you know, entertainer, creative. Now, you've been in the music industry in LA, as I mentioned. Have you, in those years when you worked there, heard anything from Kanye West, from the people around him, from people in the industry, anything about against Jews, any anti-Semitic remarks or anything? Or is it just these births of the last couple years? Yeah, I don't, I mean, the music industry, especially from the urban perspective, African-American Jews and black people work very close together.

1:57:19 And so there isn't really such an anti-Semitic tone. I mean, there have been people who have said things like Nick Cannon, and there were people even before that made statements, but I don't think the anti-Semitism, or I don't know if there's such an education about the severity of these terms because there's such a close relationship and proximity between blacks and Jews, even historically in America in general. Did the guy's head go, what? Yeah, but you see, he's going to the golden era. Not to the modern era, because even I think the ADL was saying, oh, black people are more susceptible to anti-Semitism than even white people.

1:58:02 Well, he also comes from the music business. Correct. We can't let that be missed on us either. So I'm just, so this, I played that clip just to show you what he's coming from the golden era. And I think he lives in Israel. So you got to be careful what kind of how he carries himself. I would say so. Yeah. You know what's Massage showing up at your door? You know what I'm saying? Re-education, re-educating you. So let's go into 13B. Now, I'm sure you've seen these tweets, maybe not over the weekend, but after. How did that make you feel? I was hurt. I was very hurt. I was very disappointed.

1:58:42 And I think it's an opportunity instead of just condemning Kanye West, because those statements should be condemned. They're not proper statements for anybody to make such things. But it's also an opportunity to discuss the lack of Jewish diversity that's being presented by the Jewish community in the world. Because anytime you make these statements, not just that he said, oh, going DEF CON 3, he also said, you know, make statements about black people being the real Jews and these types of things. And these things are detrimental for Jews of color, like myself, and the collective Jewish community as a whole. And it goes against the narrative of the Torah. So I feel like these moments are times where we should utilize this opportunity to educate.

1:59:25 Like I've been living in Israel for like seven years now, and the diversity here is almost exactly like California, Los Angeles specifically. But everyone here is Jewish. But the world doesn't see that. And I think the more we take that accountability to educate the world on the beautiful diversity of our people, the less these type of statements will be made. So I played that clip. I played that clip to say, okay, Lex, this man says Israel looks like LA. So why is it so jarring for Kanye to say, why'd you go to the black Hebrew Israelite? You know, why'd you go to this subset of the, you know what I'm saying, of the group?

2:00:07 And it's seen as a terrorist group by many because of their actions. Let's be clear. He's standing on the corner yelling at people. You know, that's the, that's what's a lot. The same, let me just take it like this. The same way that white Judaism is portrayed as white, where Judaism is portrayed as white, black Hebrews are portrayed as hateful people standing on the corner yelling nasty things at people. And it's funny in America because in Israel, black Jews are everywhere. Right. But what's the imagery that's allowed to be circulated?

2:00:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I find that YouTube doesn't never take these videos down. You know, we always talk about hate speech, which you can always find a video of a black Israelite standing on the corner yelling at somebody very nasty things. And isn't it interesting if you look at the high school kids with the indigenous veteran who was yelling at them? The black Israelites were involved in that as well. And in fact, they kind of got blamed for it, ultimately. Correct. So I think they're useful tools to paint this image of

2:01:26 hate, hate. Anybody that said they're black and Jews, hate is a hate monger. You know, that kind of thing. And that's where it lex, and I think it was very low-hanging for him to do this, in my opinion, because this guy, I've never been to Israel, so I can't tell you. But obviously, it seems like a diverse place. I mean, so why would you go there? In the Bible, the Israelites were kind of a pain in the ass, though. Yeah. Okay. I mean, I'm just saying it's just coming with history. You know, it's like, and for people who really haven't studied things, you know, it's easy to draw conclusions. It's just so much out there. And the other thing is, I didn't want to really get in the biblical sense of it, but like I said, it's more than, like I said, I did a very two-minute condensed what the crux of the problem is.

2:02:11 It's, you know, it can go, you know, it's verses. And when you line up what the Israelites suffered and that kind of thing, it very, very similar to what quote-unquote black people have suffered in America. So I'm just going to leave it at there. But like I said, I'm just showing you where there actually are black Jewish people that are not Hebrew Israelites. So I found that that really, to be honest with you, that triggered me because it's like, why'd you... And I saw this, Ben Shapiro did the same thing, going straight to the black Hebrew Israelite thing.

2:02:53 It's low-hanging fruit in my perspective. I agree. I agree. And I think because of. of, I mean, I always knew there were black Jews, certainly in Israel. I think we talked about it on a show somewhere. Yeah, we've touched on this, the imagery of the black Hebrew Israelites on a couple shows because I saw where it was going. But let's go ahead and get into 13C. What do you make of that short suspension? I mean, so much of what's happening in the public sphere takes place in today's public square, which is Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, et cetera, the social media platforms.

2:03:34 What do you make of this short suspension of the accounts? Does it do anything? You know, a lot of the monetization of content is coming through social media. And I'm actually very pleased with the fact that a lot of these companies are taking the initiative to say, hey, you know what? We're not going to allow hate speech to be on our platform. We're not going to allow things that are going to trigger people and upset them to be just put out at the behest of a person's emotional state.

2:04:11 Yeah, but if they suspend the account for just a few hours or a day, is that enough to actually make people think twice before they post again? People like Kanye West, probably not. Smaller people who are more like media influencers, yes. Okay. What do you expect the music industry in the United States to do? I mean, we've heard that brands across the United States and DDoS is considering not renewing the contract with him. Other brands have done the same in recent months. Do you expect the music industry to do anything? I mean, they are controlled by the Jews, aren't they? Ah, neither Spotify nor Apple has de-platformed

2:04:53 any of Kanye's music. Because it didn't happen on their platform. And see, they got Spotify especially. The way they handled the Roger situation, if you ban Kanye, then it looked hypocritical. Oh, yeah, totally. Totally. So that, like I said, everybody's like saying, how far do I need to go not to be aligned with Kanye, but not to piss off the people on my platform to leave? So, I mean, that's the thing. But what I found really in this clip is the end when he says they are controlled by Jews. Now, this is an I-24 newscaster. So he doesn't actually believe that.

2:05:38 What he's doing is lobbing this up for the rabbi to slam on home. Right. Play the end of that, and then if you could, and then go right into 13E if you can. I want to hear that. I might have did it already, but I just want to make sure we hear how he lobbed that up. This very, if anybody else said, that would be anti-Semitic. What do you expect the music industry in the United States to do? I mean, we've heard that brands across the United States that DDoS is considering not renewing the contract with him. Other brands have done the same in recent months. Do you expect the music industry to do anything? I mean, they are controlled by the Jews, aren't they?

2:06:26 Is the answer on 13E or D? No, excuse me, it's on E. The answer is on E. Do you expect the music industry to do anything? I mean, they are controlled by the Jews, aren't they? You know, I don't know if it's controlled by the Jews. I think that's a statement that, you know, people, they make these anti-Semitic statements saying, oh, Jews control the media. If that was the case, Israel would have the best publicity in the world. And that's not the case at all. Israel does the smallest infraction and different dynamics, and the whole world jumps on them. So it's a proof that we do not control the media. But I will say that again, I think there's an education process that needs to happen.

2:07:03 And I think it comes in a frame of diversity in providing education curriculum and courses for universities, showing the diversity and making it a mainstream understanding that we have Chinese Jews and Indian Jews and African Jews and European Jews and Arab Jews. We have every type of Jew from every part of the world exists. And the world needs to see that. And once they see that, it will really subdue a lot of the anti-Semitism that we're seeing. Rabbi Mordech Hayes, Ben Avraham, thank you very much for coming into our studio today. Now, did he somehow say it's only the American Jews? Is that what he was somehow saying? I think he was just saying the talking lines

2:07:47 that, you know, of, you know, Israel does, you know, every time that Israel does something, it's just black. blasted across the you know the world, which I don't know. It's a weak, weak argument, honestly. That's pretty weak, right? But he went to his talking points, and even the guy set him up, yeah, and his talking points. And then he even said, Oh, you have an interesting background. I want to talk to you more about that later. But shame, we're out of time, Rabbi. That's right. We don't have time to talk about you. You just came here to do what we had you to do. Well, that's what the media does: answer the question the way we want you to, and then you can move on. And these are the tactics that everybody sees now. It's in whoever's in control.

2:08:30 We see it. That's the point. It's like you've lost your magic and it doesn't work anymore. Now we're going to go since he said everything Israel does is highlighted in this negative way, which we know. I mean, even what's your girl name of the squad? AOC? No, the other one. Jayapa. The one from Ethiopia, I believe. Oh, yeah. Who married her brother? Yeah, her. Remember, she had to apologize when she was. Yeah, anytime somebody's Ilhan Omar, anytime anybody, even in Democrats, are pro-Palestine, you're saying they're demonized.

2:09:15 You know, like, oh, well, that's that's kind of dangerous thinking there. So we can't act like this doesn't happen, even on the Democrats. Like, they had to wrangle that, you know, reign their people in. So we're not going to play that game. But Donald Sterling, he, I think this is why he got canceled because they had to get rid of him because some of the admissions that he made. And who was going back? Who was Donald Sterling again? He was the owner of the LA Clippers that came out. Yes. Yes, of course. He didn't get canceled because of his, you know, the black player stuff. He probably could have stayed around. But when he made the statements about how, you know, Jewish people deal with each other with interest-free loans and this other diddy that I'm going to play next.

2:10:03 Immediately after that, that's when he got canceled. And this is from show 59 if people want to know restoring justice. So we can get into it. You think I'm a racist? I don't think you're a racist. Yes, you do. I think you, you evil heart. I don't think so. I think you have an amazing heart, honey. I think the people around you have poisoned mind and have a way of thinking. The world. You go to Israel. The blacks are that wasn't that his much younger wife? No, that was his girlfriend. A girlfriend. Yeah, girlfriend. But she's like 18 years old. She's Stephanie or something. Yeah, yeah. I remember this, yeah. Poison minds. Poisoning girlfriend. Yeah. And have a way of thinking.

2:10:45 The world. You go to Israel. The blacks are just treated like dogs. So do you have to treat them like that too? The white Jews, there's white Jews or black Jews. Do you understand? And are the black Jews less than the white Jews? 100% 50%. And is that right? It is a question. We don't evaluate what's right and wrong. We live in a society. We live in a culture. We have to live within that culture. But shouldn't we take a stand for what's wrong and be the change in the difference? I don't want to change the culture because I can't. It's too big. But you can change yourself.

2:11:28 I don't want to change. If my girl can't do what I want, I don't want the girl. I'll find a girl that will do what I want. This was great. I remember this. That's bad PR. That's a very bad PR. And they brought the cancel cannon out for him. When that part of the tape dropped, it was over because you can't have a Jewish man admitting that black Jews are treated like dogs 150%. And that's just the way it is. And that's the way it's going to be. Especially when you play your players are majority black.

2:12:06 You know, that's just not going to happen. And your business partners, you know, saying a large percentage are Jewish. So he had to go and they got rid of him, but he got $3 billion for his team. I mean, like, so on a $250 million investment. Did okay. Poor Don. So let's go ahead. Now we're going to get to the Black Hebrew Israelite. So this is from New Jersey News Station PIX11. And they're going to cover the before-mentioned shooting that happened in New Jersey that was a real form of anti-Semitism.

2:12:49 I think was highlighted to traumatize Jewish people. You see the chilling moments unfold in surveillance video. The suspects park a stolen U-Haul van, get out with rifles, and begin shooting. David Lacks is seen running from the kosher market. The way they look to me, the way to start the shooting, they came to kill. Inside the store, bullet holes and shattered glass from this hours-long shootout with police. I saw the Yule truck coming in, coming, and two people came out with black coats to the floor alone coats, and they ran rightly directed into the supermarket in the Jewish kosher supermarket, and they started shooting.

2:13:32 This man parked across the street, hiding and praying for his life as three innocent people were gunned down. The store owner's wife, a customer, and a worker. These are the two authorities say were behind the bloodshed, identified as 47-year-old David Anderson and 50-year-old Francine Graham. We know that there is significant speculation about the shooters' motives. We're not in the position at this time to say definitively why the suspects decided to stop in front of the supermarket and began firing and began firing immediately. But as investigators dive into the shooter's social media, the Jersey City mayor believes he knows the reason. We know that they posted favorable sentiment on social media towards anti-Semitic groups.

2:14:17 We live in a time where it's important to call out hate for what it is. A pipe bomb was also recovered from the scene. The FBI now examining evidence. Trying to think, was there something else going on? Because I remember this. Was there something else going on at the time? There were several shooting. It was another shooting. I think the guy ran into some Jewish people's home around that same time and shot them. I think. If I'm on memory surgery, and then there was a big thing with like a couple football, I mean, I don't know, Deshaun Jackson at the time. He had posted some stuff that Hitler attributed to Hitler about the Jewish people. Yeah, you know, the trauma is real. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The trauma is real, but I found it weird.

2:15:00 U-Hauls and pipe bombs. We always hear about U-Hauls and pipe bombs, you know, in these situations. So that's what the FBI does. They give feeble-minded people U-Hauls, pipe bombs, detonators that don't really work often. But yeah, that's the hallmark. I think a lot of these people get set up. That's the six-week cycle you talk about. So for people that think, oh, Mo, your space jam-reaching, we're going to go since you hadn't stole the Thunder 15.

2:15:36 Sorry, let's go ahead and go to the 15. No, that's good because it speeds it up a little bit. We're going to go into this other police informant, Fed informant, that was allowed to run Mayhem in Detroit just to show you these things do happen. And he should have never been on the streets. That is what Detroit Police Chief James Craig is saying about the suspected serial killer accused of six murders. This afternoon, we are learning a lot more about Kenyal Brown's past. Nick Monticelli takes a closer look. Good afternoon. Yes, some new details should be coming very shortly on this case, but the bottom line is this alleged serial killer was in federal custody, had a whole list of parole violations while he was out on a charge.

2:16:23 And now an agency allegedly is the one who told the Department of Justice to let him back out. But now we're learning Brown has a criminal history dating back to 1997 and should have been in prison. But a federal law enforcement agency asked he be let out. That history includes assault with a dangerous weapon, fleeing police officers, and multiple weapons charges. During his last arrest in 2014 for having a stolen 9mm handgun, he told police, I didn't even fire the gun. The only reason I have the mag is because it's crazy out here. During his sentencing, it came out Brown was working as an informant.

2:16:59 After serving 14 months, Brown was let out, but he failed drug tests, didn't check in with drug counselors, and was arrested for drunk driving while on probation. But he was let go. The Detroit News quoting a U.S. District Court spokesman saying, Our court released Mr. Brown at the behest of a federal law enforcement agency. We cannot elaborate further at this time. Detroit Police Chief James Craig told the newspaper, someone needs to explain to the families of Brown's victims why this guy was allowed to stay out of prison. I understand the need for informants, but was the information he provided worth six lives? Yeah, the FBI, man. I'm just landed out there, and then we saw what happened in Buffalo.

2:17:44 Buffalo, and then that guy that did the shooting in Buffalo was in some chat group, and the only other two people in it was people connected to the FBI. So the point I'm trying to make is trauma is real, even if it's not real. But then when it becomes actual physical trauma, like we see here or in Buffalo, they whoever control the media weaponizes that get people back into their mass formation. So absolutely. And that's in all aspects with everything. Yeah. So when people hear, like, I don't poo-poo when a Jewish person say, oh, that, you know what I'm saying?

2:18:23 That, no, that hurt me or whatever. I can understand because they traumatize my people the same way with media. You see what I'm saying? So I get it. And it's like, who is letting these nuts, excuse me, run around and stay out of jail to kill like this? You know, that's the real culprits. That's what we really need to look at. Like that supermarket shooting. And it's another super, another supermarket shooting. That's the other thing. Like, I didn't realize that myself. Like, what? What is going on here? Yeah. Well, no, that's like we used to have people going postal.

2:19:01 Remember that? Postal workers would literally go nuts and shoot a whole bunch of people and usually themselves and kill the postal workers. Yeah. I mean, like, you've all, we could just keep going down the list. Yeah. We're a trendy country, man. We're just trendy. We like to keep going with these people. Yeah, I think these people are allowed to do what they do. You know what I'm saying? To keep the mass trauma-based trauma-based economy, as Kanye called it, going. You got to keep the Trump. You got to keep him stirred up and afraid. It's exactly, it's a great tool. If they're using it that way, then it's very effective. That's for sure. Very effective. And keep people on edge. So with that said, let's go. That's the end of the first segment.

2:19:43 Let's go ahead and thank some people. First, the white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro. And the so-called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of the white man. Then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only way that they'll ever do it. That's what we're doing here, Mo Facts with Adam Curry. It's episode 87. Of course, since we've been on somewhat of a hiatus, we do have a number of people to thank who've supported us with Value for Value, which is exactly what this program is, because we couldn't do this and take corporate money or advertising money.

2:20:28 Seems like that would be pretty impossible. So we do appreciate you supporting this work by supporting us either through value for value at mofax.com, the donate page, which you can get to by going to mofundme.com. Or if you're using a podcast app that doesn't have a boost button, get a modern one. Go to newpodcastapps.com. You can even fill them up, fill up these wallets straight from your cash app now. So it's all starting to integrate beautifully. Now to our executive and associate executive producers, we kick it off right at the top, $310 from Sir Scovey, who sent a note here on email.

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2:30:08 With Africans, how many times you've heard like a rapper, you know, talk about we were kings. That's incorrect if we're Jew. If we're Jew, and since we are, we weren't the kings, we were the slaves that Moses freed. Africans have always said, we've heard, you've listened to rap music and hear black people say, we kings, we blood of the pharaohs. And if we are Jew, then we weren't. We were the people that Moses freed. And when we talk about, have you heard black people talk about 400 years of slavery?

2:30:53 All right. That is in rep, and we're having this history lesson, right? History doesn't matter. You're exploring ancient history and drawing deep wisdom from it. And at the same time, saying we need to forget all of it. We need to put that behind us. Absolutely. We need to forget it and we need to move forward. This is some hotep stuff right there. Yeah. And Kanye mentioned it previously in his podcast that we shouldn't teach history. And you've heard me say that before in school. The reason why I believe that is history should be learned in the home, not school.

2:31:36 You should take that time to teach civics and your political rights and even law. If you want to be, if you want to protect the future of your system, you will do that. Yeah, because you see exactly what happened is our scholastic system was captured by one side. It doesn't matter which side it was captured by. Very, very, very, very dangerous. And this is going to lead to confusion because nobody's going to be on an agreed what happened in history. So it's like, let's not even teach that to our kids. Leave that up to you. Now, this is something that Jewish people have been very successful at, and I admire about them.

2:32:13 They build museums. They build, you know, historic, you know, places where they can go learn their traditions and history. You know, more people need to do that. And that's, I think, that's the place where you should learn that at. Because it's. just, when it's just Moe, you can at the at the at the Obama Presidential Library. Right. And just like the Museum of African American History Museum, that kind of thing. Right. So, no, it doesn't work. It has to be, you know, funded by your group for your group. Yeah. And I do admire that about how they care, how they carry themselves for that.

2:32:54 So, but in this clip, I've seen Kanye go from one extreme to the other. When he was on the Yeezy album, he was heavy into Egyptian imagery, even to the point where he had like a head-size chain and charm that was the head of, I believe, Horace, you know, the Egyptian god. Yeah. Yeah. So he's gone from one extreme to that extreme. Now I think he identifies himself as Moses or, you know, that kind of stuff. Well, he literally has said that. Yeah. Right. Let my people go. And even to the point where,

2:33:39 and this, hear me out, and not you, because you always hear me out. But whoever's listening out there, you know what I'm saying, the Facts family. I think he sees himself as a sacrificial figure similar to Christ. And what's happened here, that may sound crazy, but what he's, I think he has done, he has made himself the new George Floyd. Let me expound on it. I mean, if you want to jump in, you want me to expound? Go go. Go. No matter what he's done, the White Lives Matter t-shirt, the red hat, the, you know, saying that could be

2:34:24 taken by black people as like off code. You know, let's go down to White Lives Matter, the red hat, slavery was a choice, you know, even wearing a Confederate flag. He's done that. The same way George Floyd, you know what I'm saying, he allegedly put a gun to, and I don't, I'm saying, I haven't seen the paperwork that said that, but they ran with him pointing a gun at a pregnant woman's stomach, all the things, you know, saying that, you know, that kind of thing. It didn't matter when that cop appeared to have his knee somewhere on his body. And I'm not going to get into that, you know what I'm saying? That trick bag and held him down and didn't render him aid.

2:35:04 Kanye's being seen the same way now. The media has their knee on his neck, and people are saying that's enough. That's enough. I mean, like, we get it. You know what I'm saying? Okay, 1.5 billion, but to come for him, you know, say he's crazy and only to prove the point that this is what happens to you when you step out of line and don't go along with it. Has this activated black thumbs? Yes, because even people that disagree with him are saying that's what I'm expressing the sentiment of what I've taken from even people that wouldn't, you know, wasn't feeling Kanye, especially after the White Lives Matter shirt.

2:35:47 It's like that triggered a lot of people. Like, whoa, bro, you know what I'm saying? And that's what even Diddy was saying, like, no, you can't do that shirt. But the sentiment of people, like, this is enough. Like, you've only proven his point. So, and who was saying that? That's not publicly said. Is that being, where is that being said? In the comments. Like I said, I take the weight of it. And it's not individual comments, but it's when I hear a consensus of comments across. I mean, look at it. I listened to, just for people to let people know, I listened to 91 individual pieces of information for this one episode.

2:36:29 Some rank that one, that one Lex interview with three hours. So, I mean, just the show, and I read the comments to see what the reaction is to it. And he's exposing a lot of people, Kanye is, by the people who's lining up with their business interests, you know, is saying, I'm not going to say anything, you know, whatever is not good for me to say anything. And for other people to say, you know what, this is enough. Like, get off the man's neck. You know, does the crime meet the crime meet the punishment? The same way, George Floyd, no matter how he got on that ground, enough is enough. And people might say, oh, no, that's not the same. It is the same.

2:37:09 So how is this manifesting this activation? Okay, so the comments, I got it. And YouTube comments, I think, are probably one of the most honest places where you can post thoughts left for some reason. I'm not sure why that is, but it is. Although the opposite. uploader, the creator couldn't delete stuff. I guess you can moderate that. So, how is that manifesting itself? Will people boycott businesses? How far? It's just the fact that you're saying it now. Like, see, he's proving your point. Okay. You know, you couldn't say that before, you know, you couldn't say that before.

2:37:49 You couldn't say, oh, you know, it looks like there is a conspiracy, you know, the from the media to destroy somebody. You know, so I see him like, I don't know. I could say I don't know Kanye, but from what I'm saying, is like, he knows how this was going to play out. He's seen this happen to somebody like even Trump. Yeah, it can't be a surprise. It could not be a surprise that this would be the result. And to double, triple, quadruple down and to keep poking the bear. I think he wants to be that figure. And that's kind of like what Christ is. You know what I'm saying? Like in a way, you know, is that I'll die for everybody's sins.

2:38:34 You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm going to take this L, this $1.5 billion L, so we can get rid of these bad contracts. Because you see how they treat you when you step out of line. So that's the, that's the, just my takeaway from it. But going back to history, this is Billy Graham. I played this clip before, and it's the what color was Jesus conversation. And this is Billy Graham, a quote-unquote white evangelical in 1971 pastor. He was the America's pastor. You know what I'm saying? And he makes his statement about the race of Jesus. Horns on his brow and his face was bleeding. And they laughed at him and they spit on him and they mocked him.

2:39:18 And with one snap of his finger, 72,000 angels had already drawn their swords, ready to come to his rescue and wipe this planet out of existence in the universe. And Jesus said, no, to this end was I born. And he dragged and lifted and hauled that cross. And don't you black people ever forget one thing? The man that helped Jesus carry that cross was a black man. And don't ever forget another thing. Jesus belongs to Africa as much as he does to Europe and Asia.

2:40:02 He was born in that part of the world that touches Africa and Asia and Europe. And Jesus was not a white man like me. Nor was he as black as some of you. We don't know what the color of his skin, but it must have been a dark color like the people of his day because he was a man like them. Don't ever say it's a white man's religion or a black man's religion. It's a world religion. He belongs to the world. Yeah. So that's that's the

2:40:41 just the histrionics, you know, of it causes it's a cause for conversation. Now, I'm just laying it out there. This is why it when you teach history and science together, you know, they conflict with each other. Yes. Kind of weird. Right. So, I mean, because I mean, Kanye was like, we all come from Africa. I think he was sharing the sentiment that Billy Graham was saying as well. That if you look historically at the people from the area, they're not going to be quote unquote white people or so-called white people.

2:41:22 So, all right, let's go ahead and hop back into another chunk of this Lex and Kanye podcast. I'm giving a fact. 50% today of, let's say, you don't call black people Jew, right? Black people's death today is abortion today, right now. Like that, it's not racism. That's too wide of a term. It's genocide and population control that black people are in today in America that is promoted by the music and the media that black people make that Jewish record labels get paid off of or media companies.

2:42:06 Yeah, this was very strong. This was very, I mean, he switched to media companies, but the, I mean, drill rap, we've talked about all this stuff. It's crazy. And this has been going on for a long time. ever since NWA. That was like the really popular uh popularizing of uh uh gangster quote-unquote gangster rap, yeah. And as long as you that gun, I always say, like, every time you hear a rapper talking about he's gonna shoot or kill somebody, who's on the other end of that gun like if you had a rapper come out and say what he said about dogs, like I love to kill dogs.

2:42:48 Oh, no, I see a dog every time would be immediately ban that, arrest the guy, right? And just to make my point, we had white mic, you know, Michael Smith from TED Talks. Uh, he's a pastor down at least in Atlanta, right? And this is show from show 48 shooters. He's gonna just, you know, saying, uh, further the point I'm making about why who is it acceptable to talk about now? We don't have Mammy Two Shoes today, you can't get away with it. Nobody, nobody would put out there, but we do have black people that get on the radio every day in white-owned companies, white-owned stations with white-owned sponsors that play the role of hypersexualized, hyper-criminalized male. I asked these advertisers, say, I've got hundreds of songs a day that celebrate killing animals. Will you put them on your station?

2:43:32 They said, No, I got hundreds of songs a day that talk about assaulting women and abusing kids. Would you put them on your station? They said, No. I said, I got hundreds of songs a day that talk about murdering blacks. Would you put them on your stations? They said, Well, that depends. Depends on what? Who it's done by and who it's branded for. Because if we can get black folks to sing about it, we can brand it for our youngest black audiences. I think there's money to be made. I think there's American appetites to see these people that way. Yeah, I love this clip. It's one of my favorites. So, so spot on. And for some hip-hop history, Kanye has been a thorn in the record industry side because of the image he portrayed and the image that he destroyed.

2:44:15 Kanye and 50 Cent dropped albums on the same day, and they're going to say, Who's going to win? You know what I'm saying? This is the thing: graduation versus I want to say it wasn't master. I can't remember which 50 Cent album was, but these are two of the biggest hip-hop names. It's the names of hip-hop at the time. David and Goliath, you know what I'm saying? You got this pink polo-wearing kid, you know what I'm saying, from Chicago that made great beats, but wasn't considered a top rapper, Kanye. And you had this bully from New York that shot nine times and he just bullied, scared, scared everybody. And the people spoke and they said, We want Kanye, we don't want 50 Cent.

2:45:00 And they had to re-jigger everything for like four or five years to go that path to keep people on board. You know, it I don't want to underestimate how he's been a thorn in the music industry side side. Um, and we've seen it playing out. So he's all he's wrote this in this song all the time about why is we, why is black murder okay? So this is nothing new for him to be saying this. It's just the fact that there's no silencer there anymore. You know, there's no, oh, we can put a lid on him. And that's why I was stressing the point of contracts.

2:45:41 When you're out of contracts, and I'm speaking to, I'm preaching the choir here, talking to you, but you know what I'm saying? Like, when you're out of that contract, you're a free man speaking now. This is the main reason why I really stopped the book that I was thinking of writing and publishing is because all the offers came with a morality clause. I'm like, I'm not going to let you decide what I do or say is moral or not. And that was just a showstopper. So, you know what? No book contract. And that's crazy, right? I mean, like, what because that morality, and we all sign a morality clause. If you have a job, it's called the work handbook. Yeah. And anything is kind of vaguely written for why you could be fired.

2:46:26 It's like, well, if you do something unbecoming to the company, like, what does that even mean? Right. So we all have a morality clause. You know what I'm saying? I mean, if you, if you don't, you're not working for yourself. And now people are finally realizing that, you know what I'm saying? With the, well, if you don't take the shot, you know what I'm saying? That's that's against company policy. Uh, so I'm just saying that it's this black death thing is if the shoe was on the other foot and you had black executives profiting off of any other group killing any other group, it would be a problem. But it's not here. And you know what? I point the finger at us because without the talent, you can't have the songs.

2:47:10 Well, this is ultimately it. And so I. if this is indeed what Kanye's strategy is, then it's a very, a very interesting way of doing it. And I can see his reasoning. But ultimately, at some point, you got to check out you got to go build your alternate universe. You got to build your product, your system, your world. And you have to do it without everything else. And it's not an easy thing to do. Correct. Because this will trickle down to suppliers, to factories, to manufacturing, to transport companies. You know, it's going to be a lot of work. But if he can, you know, I mean, it can be done.

2:47:53 You know, I'm doing it on my own little small scale. Hey, Cam, you're doing it on your own. Small scale. Yes, you're about to say podcasting again. Come on, yeah, but that's not the same as quarter billion dollars worth of sneakers. That's pretty. Okay. True. True, but I'm going to say it like this. It's not even about if Kanye does it or not. It's the point that the kids listen to them. Yeah. Listen to him. Yes. And that's what they're scared of. That's why they haven't been able to cancel him all this time. He has a multi-race, multi-generational backing. Oh, you don't. Oh, you don't have to tell me.

2:48:33 My nephew, he is, I'm going to say he's 21 now, 2021. Huge Kanye fan. He's texting me during all this. He's like, you see this? Yay for president. He's like, this whole thing for him and his family on his dad's side is Jewish. He loves Kanye. White kid from Holland. It's fantastic. And that's the problem. Because either he might inspire the person that builds the system or the person that funds the system.

2:49:13 So that's why he's a real, they have to get some kind of control over him. So speaking of control, once again, with the black Hebrew Israelite things, I thought this was very unbecoming, Alex. And like I said, I'm just being giving my perspective of what made me cringe when it was done. Sure. And this is clip 24 of their conversation. I agree with Martin Luther King. I have a dream too. That one day you would not be judged by the color of your skin or your race, black or Jew, but by the content of your character.

2:49:56 All the assholes that fucked you over in the music industry, fuck artists over in the music industry, are individuals. They're not Jews. Can you say they are Jewish? They're human with opportunities. And they took those opportunities. I don't care if they're Jewish. You feel like I should release that pain and separate it. Yes. Okay. So if that, okay. So if you're saying I should release that pain and separate it, then I'm telling you, you should release your pain and separate it. And we could get to this, the list of how you are being with engineering opportunities.

2:50:38 That's 100%. I see what you're doing. That's exactly what you're doing. The pain, I'm going to let it go. That was a good one. The MLK trigger. When I can't get you in line, now we go to the MLK trigger. Let's bring up Martin Legacy. Be a respectable Negro like Martin Luther King. Now, you don't want to go and be hateful. And not saying Kanye is hateful, but that's the thing. Like, you don't want to take that route. You want to do it in love, brother. We all human, brother. You know what I'm saying? That kind of thing. Like, do it like MLK would do it. Yeah, we know how MLK works as a trigger.

2:51:19 Right. So we only had to, yeah, we don't have to get into Clip 25, but that just goes on to talk with this show that clip 22, we were talking about this trigger and he used it twice in there. And it's a control. Like, what would King do? Well, and you see both sides do it. Like, what would King do? Oh, you know, Dr. King, you know what I'm saying? He wouldn't, he would, you know, and it's so, oh, you want to put me back in a box? You know, it's okay to be nonviolent. It's okay to be disarmed. No, we armed up over here. It's BLM. I mean, it's BGB. I mean, GBG, excuse me,

2:51:59 give blacks guns. That's triggering the people. It's like, whoa, like, you can't give black people guns. No, why not? I mean, it's in my, it's in the Constitution, right? Yep. I mean, like, if I'm fully an American citizen, it's my right to bear arms to protect myself. Like, no, you got to be MOK. You got, you know what I'm saying? Love's going to protect you. No, love, no, no. Yeah, and that's that's just intellectual bullshit from Lex. This is typical like liberal intellectual bullshit, is what that is. I would write it off like that if he did one of them. Okay, he did it.

2:52:41 But he went down the plate. And to be honest, he got it. His bullet phone rang. Yeah. Like, Alex. Alex, he's a crafty one. So, you know what I'm saying? Let's go over the, let's go over the checklist of this, this, this, this. Because he hit them all. Yeah. It's like, it's not a coincidence that you hit all the talking points. Yeah, yeah. And I knew that was what it's going to be. Like, you say that. Well, no, we want a drink chance. And we have to presume that Kanye knew that this would happen too. He knew all of this would play out. It's the imagery that he came in there with this dirty looking sweatshirt.

2:53:23 He's the most unassuming billionaire or used to be billionaire that you ever seen because he has like this dirty work shirt on. He even said, he even said, oh, I have this dirty old thing on. I was tired of seeing the same hoodie in all the other interviews. He had thought about it. Right. Even to the point where he went talking to Carl, he had that big wild mustache. Like, you know, like he just crawled out of, you know, like a, you know, just all like, just like wild man, like, you know, like a caveman. And like for a man that understands imagery, yeah. Everything was playing. All of this was playing down to the piece of paper to write the notes. Like, oh, Lex, tell me, tell me how I should fix things.

2:54:04 When I saw that, I was like, okay. That's very patronizing. Yeah, we're about to get a masterclass into trolling. And that's what he's a troll. He's a master troll at the end of the day. But in this era of 45 Savage, trolling is very powerful. Yeah. So. All right. So let's go ahead and move on and get to part 10 of the Lex interview. One of the problems you highlight is people get fucked over in the music industry and get fucked over in the media, get fucked over all over the place. They created, there was a Jewish trainer that brought me to the hospital and put in press that I went to the hospital.

2:54:48 I know friends that off of exhaustion, a Jewish doctor that died saying Jewish because they were right, diagnosed me with bipolar disorder and shot me with medication and put me on medication, then put it in the press. And every time, even if I wore the wrong color hat that a nigger is not supposed to wear, right? Then they immediately say he's off of his shit. He's off his meds. He's off his rocker. And it's literally used as a scarlet letter control mechanism. Totally. 100%. In an era where you can't question anybody's mental health.

2:55:28 That's that's the thing. If it was 1980s, it'd be different where you could say, oh, people that man, he's crazy or he's whatever, you know what I'm saying? But in like go back once again to say, in an era where you recall a record and have it recorded because they had the word spaz and not even mean spaz in the sense of that, you know what I'm saying? And that's spastic. Yeah, but no, it's a slang term, like a spaz. Like I'm a spat, like you hear rappers, I'm a spazz on this beat. I'm saying I'm a spazz out. I mean, I'm in my life. I mean, we used to use spaz all the time. Spaz was very normal in the 70s, and it's and it was an abbreviation of spastic. Right. So, and that, so of course, that's offensive.

2:56:13 Of course. Can't say it. Unless you're talking about Kanye West and his mental health fears. He's a spaz, clearly. 27. If I raise my voice, if I express myself on Instagram, it's a colonic. I got to do everything to get it out of my body. Ranting on Tucker, but silenced on Twitter and Instagram. The fears for Kanye's mental health are growing today. There are reports that friends are certain he's in the midst of a psychiatric episode that may be worse than the one which landed him in the hospital six years ago.

2:56:52 That play's going to need to be hot. Kanye addressed the speculation Friday with Tucker Carlson. They keep on using the, oh, he's crazy, he's crazy. And it hurts my feelings. But now a backlash over Kanye's weekend is. of anti-Semitic social media posts is growing. After this threat, I'm going DEF CON 3 on Jewish people. I woke up and burst into tears. DEF CON 3 on Jewish people? Jamie Lee Curtis was very emotional on today after she tweeted, Your words hurt and incite violence. You are a father. Please stop. What are you doing? Sarah Silverman, Josh Gadd, and Rob Reiner, who called Kanye a mentally ill anti-Semite, all tweeted about Ye's dangerous words.

2:57:36 John Legend, who was once close to Kanye, because Kanye appeared in one of Legends' earliest songs. And I used to used to love you. Appeared to address the vile remarks in his own tweet. Weird how all these free, independent thinkers always land at the same old anti-blackness and anti-Semitism. He told us this back in 2016 after Kanye's psychiatric emergency. So this is not even new. They brought back an old tweet from John Legend. And you see how they rewrite history? Kanye was on one of John Legend's songs. No, no, John Legend was on his song. No, sign to good music. Last time, my memory serves me correct.

2:58:20 But see, even that's what I'm saying about the media. They take the least little detail and flip it to the point where, oh no, it's not Kanye, a former artist of Kanye West, John Legend, felt this way. No, he was once on one of his, Kanye was on his song. Yeah. Who sits around there and manipulates words in that way in a dishonest way? And then to say he's mentally ill. And let's not forget when Kanye came out on that stage and said, it's a new day, America.

2:58:57 You know what I'm saying? Hillary Clinton went in on Hillary Clinton and all that and explained why with black radio and why, you know, why they lost the election, they hauled him off. Yeah. They did. And threw him in a mental hospital. And if you don't think that's how it goes down in Hollywood, you're sadly mistaken. And it might not be, and captivity might not be that extreme as far as throwing you in a paddy wagon in your padded van and hauling you off to the mental asylum. But it's, hey, I think you need to get away. Give me your phone. Let's get on this private jet and fly to this distant island so you can decompress.

2:59:42 That's how it works. You need to go to a spa. Right, exactly. That's, yeah, you need to go. Just unwind. Give me your phone. Give me your phone. Yeah. It's triggering for you. Let me get that phone. You need to go to a spa. You really do. That is, it's amazing. And you wonder why people don't trust the media. I don't wonder why people don't trust the media. This is just another prime example. Of course, of course you. I mean, but even to people that kind of watch the news or start to see the was like, wow, like, and that's what I was saying about with him, him going through this whole process.

3:00:24 I bet you it's more people, if I was a bet man, put a bet down. It's more people come out on the side of, you know what? That's some crazy stuff Kanye said, but the way the punishment don't meet the crime. I think more people are leaning that way than, you know what, after hearing all the facts, it was justified what happened to him. You know, I think what mainstream would like is what they're saying they would like is, you know, he has to be quiet for a little bit and then he can come back and say, look, I had an episode. You know, that's what they would really like. Right. And then, and Lex played that card. We'll just speak on mental health for a minute. Oh, Kanye was like, you know, I was sleepy when I wrote that tweet.

3:01:08 And he's like, Kanye, you're not getting, are you getting sleep? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you're saying like you're sleep deprived. Are you getting, you need to get more sleep, son? Yeah, I know. Right. Oh, that explains why you sent. Okay, it's got to be an explanation why you did it. You weren't in your right mind. That's where we're at with it. So let's go ahead and get into part 11. Where do you think they put me right now? They put me as the prophet, not the leader. It doesn't have to be the leader, right? Because we need a more intelligent person to be the leader. But at least, right? They put me as the prophet. They put me as the only person that would say this.

3:01:46 And I'm just saying that was four Jewish members that controlled my voice because for the fact that 90% of black people in entertainment from sports to music to acting. acting are in some way tied into Jewish business people. Right. The crux of his argument there. Right. And this is not specifically a black thing because we saw what happened with Britney Spears. She didn't even have control over signing her own contracts, but she was still working. They didn't put her mental health first. So it's not exclusive. You know what I'm saying? This is just how the system works.

3:02:26 But one message to Kanye, bro, we ain't got no leader. I'm going to let you know that if you're listening, which you probably are, we don't have no leader. It don't work like that. We weigh it out. And when I say we, we're talking about the thumbs here. We look at a situation, we weigh it out, and whatever is just how we side. And you asked me a question previously. You're like, how do you see it playing out? Whatever. I'm seeing a lot of people that are taking, oh, Kanye messed his money up and he should have put his money first. And they're getting a lot of pushback from their following that they cultivated. So it ain't outsiders.

3:03:09 It's like, bro, this is off code. You know, this ain't no. Just the same way with, if you notice, it's the same way with what's the brown-haired conservative congressperson, Boebert. Yeah, Lauren Boebert. You remember they told her the service that told her to stop apologizing? That's the same way. It's like MAGA. It's the same way. There is no leader of MAGA. Donald Trump found that out real quick. There is no leader of MAGA. You keep pushing, you know what I'm saying, the shot, we'll replace you. You won't be the leader. Yeah, exactly. We'll let you, you know what I'm saying, you know, be

3:03:53 an executive, but there's no leader of this movement. It's all about principles that we all agree upon. And that's what scares them. Yeah. Because there's nothing to be co-opted. There's nothing to be controlled. You can't control the math. All you can do is silence them. And that's why the social media part is. Unless, I mean, the timing is so perfect. You'd think here comes our white knight in shining armor to open up the floodgates of Twitter just at the moment it's needed. It's not suspicious. I don't think MAGA don't trust him either. They're like, you're doing what we want. It's kind of like how politicians are supposed to do, or supposed to be used.

3:04:37 You're doing what I want you to do for the moment. And that's kind of what Trump, you see, the DeSantis thing. Yeah. That was the control mechanism for Trump. Like, oh, we got a replacement for you. Yeah. Which I think Josh Harley is a very dangerous person. I don't like as far as I don't like Hawley. I'm talking about as far as swooping in and being the white Obama. Yeah. I don't like him, regardless. I'm not saying I like him either. I'm just saying as far as politics is concerned. He's carried himself to be no MAGA light. You know what I'm saying? Like all bringing in the CRT people and pro-trans people and doing the, you know, the, oh, I'm going to talk you down.

3:05:19 He's positioning himself in that 2024 pool to say, you know what, I'm MAGA-like. Oh, yeah. I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you. The same way you felt about the same way I feel about Obama. You know what I'm saying? It's how you feel about him. It's like, you asked your turf, bro. But I'm just telling you that big money, I can see them support getting behind him because he has the talking points, but he'll play big politics ball. Yeah, he's slick. He's slick. And he does some, you know, he does good little sketches there on the C-SPAN. He's good. And he has the look. And he has a look. Yep. Yep. Yeah. So I'm just going to lay that out there. For sure. So let's go ahead and get into 31.

3:06:03 90% of black people in entertainment from sports to music to acting are in some way tied into Jewish business people. Meaning that in some way, just like if Rahm is sitting next to Obama or Jared sitting next to Trump, there's a Jewish person right there controlling the country, the Jewish people controlling who gets the best video or not, controlling what the media says about me. Person is not Jewish. Let me just say one thing. But they are, though. That's the only thing. It just so happens that they are. It just happens to say. That doesn't mean that I hate them. That just means that they are.

3:06:46 But it's a dog whistle. When you say Jewish media or Jews are controlling the voice of black artists. artists, black people, black artists. And when you say that, I'm not allowed to say it out loud. You can say it. There's a large number of people that are hurting and have anger and even have hate in their heart when they hear Jewish media. They start, that hate starts being directed towards the Jewish people. Yeah, this is where, you know, it's like you can say this about so many different things the media says or people say, particularly against black Americans. And generalization.

3:07:31 Right. Because when you hear, oh, that's a diversity hire. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Oh, Jean-Paul, whatever her name is. Oh, she was hired because she was black and a lesbian. Serena Abdul Jean-Pierre Van Dem. Yeah, her. You know what I'm saying? Nobody backs eye. You know, when you see commercials and it's overrepresentation of black people, people point that out or CEOs, you know, being hired because they're black, you know, to meet a certain image for a company. If there was ever a disparity between black and white men in America, two black and white men, I would say it would be Kanye and Tucker.

3:08:11 Tucker, the things he says are against the pharmaceutical companies, against the banks. I mean, I mean, and of course, I agree with a lot of it. But he is allowed to keep his platform. I do not understand what kind of leverage he has or just over. I mean, it's crazy. Well, controlled opposition is no, that ain't it either. Go. You want him to be a free agent? I mean, he's propping up the Fox, whatever their direct, what is it? Like, you know, the platform where you can pay. Oh, I mean, with all his documentaries, whatever.

3:08:55 Fox Nation, Fox Nation. Yeah, he is Fox News. Let's be honest. The only news I watch is Tucker Carlson. Right. But it's so on a nightly basis. So you want him as a free agent? I mean, do you really, not you, but does Fox really want him off a contract, off a paper? But when you let. Hear me what I'm saying. Yeah. The pharmaceutical companies do not like what he's saying, yet they continue to advertise on the rest of Fox. So who has the power there? Clearly, the media company is more powerful than the pharmaceutical company. I'm going to push back, not to disagree with you, but just to say they didn't like Kanye putting on a red hat.

3:09:36 They didn't like Kanye saying what he was saying, but they didn't go to the extremes of getting him off of a contract. They just had to deal with it because they understand what freedom meant. And that's the same thing with Tucker Carlson. Tucker Carlson, if he walks out of Fox today, man, all these people like Daily Wire, whatever. He smashes all of them. He sucks all the air out of the room. And that's not me being a Tucker fan. He read the tea leaves early on and was like, yeah, I see where MAGA's going. And MAGA has the bull by its horns as far as the Republican Party is concerned. Right. But Tucker doesn't have the same set of balls as Kanye because Tucker still has to walk within some kind of parameters.

3:10:21 There's no doubt about it. You can't do that job in that environment without having some rails. I think he wants to get fired. I mean, that's just my, because some of the stuff he does, he's doing Kanye in a way. Right. That's about, yeah. He was Kanye before Kanye because he would, he, I'm like, wow, like you said, like, and it's start to start contrast is he rails against Ukraine, right? No, how about this? He rails against not Ukraine, the military-industrial complex. Right. And then right after him, the other guy comes on. And he's like, he's the pen-wearing. You know what I'm saying? So it's just like, I think when you have people like that on your team, it's kind of like, what are you going to do?

3:11:05 I mean, you see it in sports a lot. Like, this guy's a headache, but what are we going to do? Let him go? I'd rather him be. So there you go. So bottom line, yes, this guy's a headache, but he brings in a quarter billion dollars a year for us. But this time the decision was we got to let him go. Because he touched the, he took the third rail and just done what nobody's done to it. And I'm wondering what, and you got to think, Tucker let Kanye say some third rail type of stuff. You know what I'm saying? Like the Jewish engineering with Hanukkah, the financial engineering clip that he cut out.

3:11:49 out, but it was still out there. And then he said he let Kanye say that the blacks are the real Jews. You see what I'm saying? It's like, whoa. So I'm just saying, Tucker Carlson is a problem that they don't. Fox News really don't have a solution for. I mean, that's just my perspective because he's the only one that MAGA really rocks with in far as conservative news, mainstream conservative news. Everybody else, they're very suspect of. But I mean, and you know what?

3:12:28 I think Tucker found that little Alex Jones light kind of thing. Like he, you know, whatever, Alex, he's found a way to talk, use Alex Jones' talking points, but make them more palatable for the mainstream. I like your theory. He wants to get fired. I'm with you on that. I like that. Yeah, so that's just my take on it. I mean, because I've thought about this. This is just not this. Because I'm the same way you are. Like, what is he doing? You know, they know he can't say that. So, all right. So, just going into the controlling aspect of it, this is one last clip for somebody that has been canceled, Farrakhan, on the levels of Alex Jones. And I think he was one of the few people that they put the first

3:13:15 cancel canon on. And this is him speaking on the Jewish control of sports and more specifically LeBron James. I want to close with basketball since LeBron was in the news. Have you ever seen such a clamor over our brothers? Mickey Arrison is the owner of the Miami Heat. Miami Heat. Is that where LeBron is?

3:13:56 Is that where Dwayne Wade is? Is that where Runch is? Rush is Dan Gilbert, owner of the Cleveland Cavaliers. Now, listen. You know, there's some plantations if you go to, they treat you better. But our brother went from one plantation owner who is Jewish to another plantation owner who is Jewish.

3:14:36 And the Jewish owner in Miami was jumping up and down. Cause these Negroes sitting here like they are the top stars. But in the background is the dude that's saying, boy, we're going to get $750 million coming in because of these three Negroes. Put their meat on a plantation. Farrakhan. Now you see why. Yeah. And he was one of the OGs against any vaccines.

3:15:17 Oh, yeah. That's why they had to get him out to paint real food. He got it early on. He got a real early on. So just go back a little bit before we go into the next Doge Nation segment. Now we see why LeBron James can't say anything about the things he's not allowed to say anything about. Everybody like, why LeBron Joe said that about China? Why LeBron John said about anything about this or that? A lot of his wealth is, you know what I'm saying, is tied into these big corporations, i.e., Nike. And I don't think Nike is Jewish owned. So like I said, it's the bigger they. It's the bigger they. His thing is Chinese, but they understand.

3:16:03 We'll let him have his pet projects, but we can't have him free. You can't have a free LeBron James because if a free LeBron James hooks up with a free Kanye West and a free Jay-Z and ruin the Chinese business, ruin a lot of business. Because you see, Jay-Z is even going through some stuff with his liquor, with the liquor company now. Are they trying to undervalue his portion of the ownership? I didn't know the Secretary. Yeah, Seagrams. I think it's, yeah. I'm just saying that it's some weird stuff going on because LeBron, Jay-Z, all these other people, when Kanye does this, now.

3:16:45 everybody's looking at them like you ain't gonna support him? You know what I'm saying? Like, where you at? Where's everybody at? It's embarrassing. It's embarrassing that they can't stand behind him. Yeah, similar to how when everybody just abandoned Trump at the 2020, everybody knew what the fix was in, but all the Republicans, what sat on their hands, that the, I'm going to say it like, let me clear it, clean it up. All the mainstream conservative Republicans sat on their hands and that same thing. Because they was like, oh, I can't go down that rigged election talk. That's crazy.

3:17:26 But you see, as it more and more, you're hearing, oh, you know, January 6th wasn't that big of a deal. Talk now. If you said that in January 7th. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, I mean, and of course, you know, now there's a different view on the effectiveness of vaccines or the extreme effectiveness, depending on what outcome you wanted from them. There's more of a broader conversation, but this is the difficult part. The difficult part is where people have to start admitting that they were wrong or at least get off their defensive or get out of defensive mode and say, okay, let's, you know, let's hug it out here and let's move on.

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3:29:42 loud to the point of Ari Emmanuel writing a letter in the Financial Times trying to take food out of my children's mouth, telling people that they're not allowed to work with me. Even Chris Como or Pierce Morgan getting me to apologize and separate Jewish business people from the families of the Jewish business people, which I did. Update. I did that. That already happened. And the way that was a shitty apology. That wasn't really an apology. And that's where Ye got triggered it. And I've been calling Kanye Ye.

3:30:21 I understand. You know what I'm saying? But I want to respect his name changed the same way Ollie changed his name. But it's kind of like that cousin that comes back around and called him one name all his life. And he's like, no, call me this. My new name, man. What's up? Right. I want to point that out because I don't ever want to be taken into disrespect. So I want to make sure that we do that because whatever people want to be addressed by, they need to be addressed by. But yeah. So I'm taking food out of his kids' mouth. Yeah. It's a lot of food. You know what I'm saying? But still, if you work hard for it, every cent counts.

3:31:05 And this family attack thing, we can't underestimate. Now we get, we talked about the how. These last few clips, we're going to get in. Well, next couple of clips, we're going to get into the why. What pushed Kanye slash Ye? Sorry, natural. But what pushed Ye over the edge? What caused this? And I think it's losing his family. family. He does come back to that consistently. And he's very angry at Chris Jenner. Yes. So let's go ahead and get into 36. This kind of sets it up about the family aspect of it.

3:31:46 Let's go. All my contracts, and no one can say this is ramped up. No one, Howard Stern can't say this is ramped up. Ari Emmanuel can't say this is ramped up. George Soros knows damn well that I'm not ramped up. George Soros knows, like, wow, this guy's like a younger guy that's looking at what I did and looking at how I control the world silently. And he's calling it out and he's not using any of the fear tactics. I can't send his homeboys around him. I can't send his wife to him. This guy, that's what George Soros sees, right? When he's dealing with me, right? Oh, wow. He was about to say a younger me.

3:32:27 Yeah. That's funny. That's why I said, like, I think he's trying to get into the social engineering as well, like a Soros of why not? You know, why not? I'm just because the way he paused, I'm speculating here, but it's not like he wants to say George Soros looks at me like a younger me. And what he didn't want to, that would be a bad optics to kind of something Ye could say. I could totally hear him saying that. That's interesting. Right. And then he talks about who they sent to control him. And so we finally get to talk across the interview where all this starts.

3:33:03 I mean, well, a large majority of the press run starts and the control they had on his family, more specifically his wife. The first indication that West might become a massive problem for the industrial deception complex came in 2015 and 2016 when Donald Trump appeared. And West had a very strong gut reaction to Trump that was very positive. And the people around him were panicked by this. The last thing you could have is one of the most popular pop culture figures in America coming out for Donald Trump. So they applied intense pressure to get him back on the script. And apparently his wife was part of that. His former wife, Kim Kardashian, who West now learns had a very close relationship with the Clintons and people around the Clintons.

3:33:49 He had no idea. His relationship with Trump, on the other hand, flourished and he got a window into the people around Trump. And in this clip, you'll hear him assess what happened inside the White House. Very interesting. Watch. It was interesting. A friend of mine told me that Chris and Kim had called him because he had influence inside of the black community and had called him to say, oh, to get him to influence people to take the vaccination.

3:34:29 And I don't have an opinion on that. I just want to state that as a flat statement. But it was, it was wild that I didn't know how close my own wife was to the Clintons. I didn't know, you know, I didn't realize it at the time that you were married to her. And I was married to her. How close was she to the Clintons? I mean, cell phone away, like, or, hey, tell Ye to say this away, or hey, go out and use your platform to push the vaccination away. I mean, not a way, but like, take the away part. But do you feel like at times you were manipulated by political forces through your wife? Attempt manipulation. Yeah, that was

3:35:15 a dynamite moment. Hillary and Kim. Go figure. And that's got to piss you off because as a family man, and this would enrage him, I think, to be the why is he doing this at the core of it. Yeah. Because what the media did was not only did they drive a wedge between him and his wife, or he, this is how he perceives it. Being a family man, that's how I would perceive it. You drive a wedge between me and my wife. Then when they get divorced, they run with this thing like he's the next OJ.

3:35:58 Yeah, or Pete, you know what I'm saying? Pete has got your daughter sitting on his lap, tattooing their names on his body. That, by the way, that's completely outrageous. The shit that was going on with Pete and the kids, and maybe half of it is true. I don't know, but wow. Yeah, that would drive. That's amplification for me. Look how the media amplifies. amplified it. Yeah. Like every on the front page, oh, Pete, you know, all they're making love by the fireplace. Oh, you know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, Pete got your woman kind of thing to trigger him to do something to show up.

3:36:40 But that's all that's that is 100% what media does. Media loves doing that. They love divorces because they can amplify what one spouse does. And the War of the Roses. They love resurrecting the War of the Roses script whenever they can. But it can't be lost on you that your wife left you for a quote-unquote white person, white man. Hello. And some of the disgusting things I heard, you know what I'm saying, about what he's doing to her. And this is on mainstream media. And it's like, hold on now. Like, well, we're in the area of

3:37:18 WAP, you know, it's like anything goes now. But you're not going to hear just what's her, I'm about to call it just like just Lamb Maxwell, but the other Tom Brady's wife. You're not going to hear. She's La Bunchen. Yeah, you're not going to hear her get her back blown out by somebody getting her back blown out, Moe. Yeah. Hey, that's how they put it in the media. I never heard that. That's how disrespectful it was. I mean, like, to go down to the acts and that kind of thing, you're not going to hear, oh, this athlete is doing this to your wife in the Tom Brady and his wife's divorce.

3:38:00 No. This was, I think, they were trying to trigger him to pop off. You know who else they did this with? Dennis Rodhood. Dennis Rodney. True. Because he was easy to trigger. He was fun to trigger. I thought they all had fun doing that. Yeah, I'm trying to think back of all the big divorces. How about our golfer? Tiger Woods. Yeah. He got beat up by a white woman. But they didn't say, oh, this guy's coming over and you know what I'm saying, doing stuff to his wife. Nope. No, they didn't. No, because that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying I agree with you.

3:38:42 They love to be messy in divorces. To keep, you know what I'm saying? You saw it with Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt and his first wife. You saw that. That was mess. But to allude to, oh, he's doing this to your wife in a very disrespectful manner. Yeah, I took that because me being a husband, I might be on the front lawn. I'm sorry. I mean, like, because you got to imply, like, my kids sitting on his lap. Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, no. That was the part that was out of control. Yeah.

3:39:22 Right. So I think for me, that would probably be the why of all of this of why he would have an all-out attack on the media. Because I think whatever you say, there needs to be some respect. If you respect even as an asset, as a media asset, you know, they didn't get into the details of how Jay-Z cheated on Beyonce. Right. You see what I'm saying? It was, okay, he cheated, but he didn't went and give you the blow-by-blow. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? They did this to Kanye and Ye in his situation. So I think that's what set him off the deep end on like on a Rambo kind of thing.

3:40:07 Okay, you tore my family up. You want no man in the house? This is what it looks like. And I can't disagree with them from that aspect of it. If somebody set out to divide my home. So let's go ahead and get into 38. That we're going to be able to get past this and the way God is going to use me right now is for me to stop talking about the pain, stop talking about what happened and do something about it. And that's where I'm at right now in this moment. I'm not asking for anyone out here to empathize or sympathize for

3:40:45 a dude worth $11 billion that can make money disappear. I mean, appear at a thin air in five different industries. I'm not asking for anybody to sympathize with someone who's married to Kim Gardashi and dated Irena Shake. Like, I feel like I'm just not going to get the sympathy vote in this situation. Right. So I feel your pain. I feel your pain. Yeah. I feel like no one's going to feel my pain. Only Brad and Leo could feel my pain. Right. So the so but still, but here too. today, when you said it's a sorry apology, what's the apology that you're looking for?

3:41:28 Yeah, he was this was this was the setup from Ye yeah, he knew it, he knew it was gonna come. So let me explain the apology that they're looking for, Ye, just in case you don't know. They want the apology that LeBron James made for saying that he was making Hebrew money or the apology that Jay-Z gave for saying, you know, how Jewish people own all the property, you know what I'm saying? Real estate is because how they did it, credit. That's the apology they want. They want the, you know, the full trip to the, you know, the Holocaust Museum. You come out. You know, it's a

3:42:10 whole thing to it. You know what I mean? Like, you kind of know what when you hear somebody, oh, somebody says something that's anti-Semitic. Oh, you know, they're going to the Holocaust Museum. They're going to talk to a rabbi. I think I've told you what happened to me in 1985. No, you haven't. So I mean, it was a little late. It was around, I was in the Netherlands, and I think it was something to do with Israel, maybe with the Middle East, but it's definitely, it's like Jews and Arabs. And I was being interviewed by like a real, like a real news radio program. And they say, well, you know, they would say, well, it seems like the media is

3:42:50 really building up this hype for war. And I made the classic mistake. Now I was 20 of saying, well, why don't you look at the credits of Hollywood then maybe understand where the anger is coming from? Seems to me there's a lot of Jewish names there. Boom. Boom. Front page, front page, front page. Talk shows talking about people saying, it triggered me to think of the Nazi jack boots when I was a little girl walking past our hiding spot. That kind of shit came out on TV. And right away, the CD, CIDI, the Dutch Anti-Defamation League,

3:43:35 Robbie, I forget his name. Right away, and they made me do the walk. Now, I definitely was ignorant about the trope of Jews controlling the media. I was completely, at the time, I was completely ignorant that that was the rail. I just didn't know. I mean, I grew up in a country with socialist media. By the way, Holocaust was openly discussed. My friends' grandmothers had tattooed numbers on their arms. But holy crap, I had to do the walk, and it ended for me there.

3:44:21 And there was no other repercussion because I did the walk when I was 20 years old. But it is universal. Holocaust Museum. They took me to their museum. The whole thing. Take a picture. Yeah. Which I have no problem. No, but if that's how they maintain respect for their culture, I have no problem with it. And this kind of leads into the next clip. Is you really can't ask for an apology. Correct. It has to come from the heart, from the person themselves.

3:45:00 Right. So love, respect, and an apology. You really can't ask for. So, and I think people understand that, but it's that we got to maintain optics. And I'll say this because what you were saying that Jack Boo and going back to 1930, who's to say that pain is not real if you're being taught that from an early age. Like when you hear this, this is what they mean. Like when you hear quote-unquote black people, so-called black people, they tell us you can't say master bedroom anymore. But when you even say the word master, you know what I'm saying? It goes back to, you know, slave, you know, or even to the point in fantasy sports, which I'm a big,

3:45:45 I'll play, they went and took it. It used to be you were owners of players. Oh. Yeah. You used to be owned by, or this players owned by, they switched that. What is it now? It's rostered. You know what I'm saying? I'm just saying. So when you, and that's the danger of CRT, and that's why I pushed so back behind that because it's trying to instill, oh, when you hear these words, be triggered to be. know, going to victimization. So, I'm not going to poo-poo people's feelings of, you know, if they've been conditioned that way, when you hear this, that means that this is a dog whistle for this and that kind of thing.

3:46:27 I do need to point out one thing: the woman who said that was lying. She was not old enough to have been, as she claimed, a child during that period. She was a very famous entertainer. So she was saddled up to do this. Correct. Just like I assume that that teacher in the beginning of the clip with the fourth graders, it doesn't matter if it's real or not. It's about she was actually triggering the trauma nationally on television. Right. Doing it purposely. Yeah. And of course it's real. Of course, I know it's real. But anyway, the point is the format is there. If you don't follow the format, you got a problem.

3:47:11 The apology. That's it. And you can't ask for, since we covered that, we can go into the last and final clip. But I'm just going to remind people again. And I got this from, I didn't get this from Neely Fuller, but he kind of ingrained, like, readdresses it that you can't ask for love, you can't ask for respect, and you can't ask for an apology. You never ask anybody for an apology. Why? According to logic, because it doesn't mean anything if you have to ask for it, right? Okay. Yes, it's when people come to you and say, I apologize for what I said to you the other day. That's when it has value. Okay. When you have to beat a person over the head and say, apologize to me, I'm going to inflict injury on you.

3:47:56 I'm going to say terrible things about you. I'm going to do something to you. You better apologize. But first, say, okay, okay, okay. I apologize. I apologize for slavery. All right. I apologize for all the things I'm going to do to you next week. Or this either. And in fact, I will load you up with apologizes. With apologies. I mean, and you'll have them in advance. How many do you need? How many pounds of apology can I get you? Right. So it doesn't work that way. If this person wants to apologize and atone, which is why, even with reparations, that's why I use the word atonement.

3:48:38 If someone wants to atone, it's on them to come to you and atone. Right. Now, you can have self-respect for yourself. It's like, you know what? I'm not going to deal with that person until I get an apology. See, that's the difference. But you can't demand a twist somebody's arm for apology. Well, you'll get words, but you won't get atonement, correct? Exactly. So this last and final clip, this is Kanye. And I think this is the place where he's at and why he faced the council culture. And he feels like he can't be harmed by it. 44. Am I allowed to say Jewish?

3:49:16 Tell me. Is it anti-Semitic for Ye to say Jewish out loud? No, there's, I don't like the allowed that presumes censorship. I think you choose. You have a powerful voice. Did I prove? Did I, did I prove that there was censorship over the past two weeks? Who censored you? Oh, drink champs. Oh, my Lord. Oh, like Twitter and so on. Twitter. That has less to do. Drink champs. That hurt you, the drink champs that Nor took it down. Took down your conversation. Oh, it didn't hurt you. Man, you got to be honest about that.

3:49:54 We're still the kids we used to be. I put my hand on the stove to see if I still bleed and nothing hurts anymore. I feel kind of free. And that was the conclusion. That was his summary. Hand on the stove. That's where the mind state he's at right now. Wow. I put my hand on the stove. See if it could bleed. And nothing hurts anymore. I feel kind of free. Wow.

3:50:34 I really am happy that we did this. I'm happy that you gave me a different perspective to look at what Kanye is doing here. And from the perspective of breaking free, breaking all the shackles, literally. I sure hope the strategy works for him because he's a very fun force to have in the universe. And I think an important one. And I think a lot, it's not only Kanye. I think it's a collective mind state. You saw so many resignations after COVID. You saw so many people back. betting on themselves at the COVID. Yep. So it's, and I'm one of them. It's like, I put my hand on the stove. I think you're playing music. Yeah, I am.

3:51:19 I'm playing it to be cool. Okay. So I feel kind of free myself. So I can agree with that. Me too, man. And I've, well, I've had this feeling for 15 years. There's always still some monetary networks that you always have to be careful not to piss off. But otherwise, it is a great feeling being free. And I'm so happy that you are and that you're building up your, you know, building up your future for your family because I know that's what you're working hard on. Right. So with that said, as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself.

3:52:00 And we'll be back next time with Mo Facts with Adam Curry. Someday I will wear a story crown. Someday, someday, someday I wanna lay down like I did on Sundays. Sundays, Sundays, I remember these Sundays, that way, yeah, way late. Someday I wanna say goodbye.

3:52:45 Sunday, I wanna hit the red that I never got. Someday, I'm not from a little wanna. What I wanna say I've been trying to make you love me. But everything I try to stick you further from me.

3:53:29 Once again, I am a child. I let go of everything that I know. Yeah. Of everything that I own. And nothing hurts anymore. I feel final free. We're still the kids we used to be. Yeah, yeah. I put my hand on a stove to see if I still feel. And nothing hurts anymore. I feel final free.

3:54:14 We're still the kids we used to be. Yeah, yeah. I put my hand on the stove to see if I still breathe. And nothing hurts anymore. I feel final free.