35: Take That, Take That

00:06 Mo Facts with Adam Curry from May 4th, 2020. This is episode number 35. And it's Rona time, so we'll just pretend this is Saturday. Who cares? Hey, Mo, how you doing, man? I'm doing good. How about yourself, Adam? Yeah, real good. You know, you sent me the bat signal on Saturday. It's like, uh-oh, down the rabbit hole we go. So, you know, we all know what that means. This stuff doesn't write itself, people. It's not magic. It really doesn't. We don't have a lot of, we don't have any writers. So, like I said, and I always like to, when I get that itch, I can't stop until it's fully scratched. So, what was the lyric? Oh, man, what was it?

00:51 That rapper's making me. That scratch is making me itch. What song was that? Now, I'm talking like before you were born, probably. It's like Joe Tex or something. Like, Mama, I want to do Loose Caboose. Mama won't let me. No? Do you remember that? Joe Tex is. I know who Joe Tex is, but I don't remember that really. You don't know the Loose Caboose? Are you kidding me? You don't know Joe Texas. Wait, wait. Seriously, you've never heard of the Loose Caboose? I probably heard it, but I can't recall it. Oh, man. Put me on the spot. Let me just see. Let me see if I can get lucky here for a second. Why not? It's Rona time. We're going crazy. That's what's happening. Here we go.

01:35 Oh, my God. This is a real old one. That's Soul Train right there, man. See, that's how old I am. Now I'm going to have to go look that up. I got to have a visual. But the best part is this little kid comes on. I'm going to do this caboose. My mom won't let me. Anyway. See, we almost grew up with the same things in a way, Moe. Just a decade difference, something like that. Okay, so anyway, everyone's good. The family's good. Everyone in good health. Everybody's doing well. Can't complain. How about our year end? Everybody is good. All the kids, I think, now got their unemployment.

02:20 I'm not saying that's a good thing, but at least they're getting by. It's a necessary thing. It is. Yeah, it is. Well, I don't feel bad about it, man. It's like they're giving our own money back. So I don't feel too bad about that. And it gives us lots of time to hang out at home, like I wasn't living here already, but to prepare great stuff for everybody who's listening to the show. And I know a lot of people have been sitting at home Jones in, just waiting for something good to come out. I think the streaming services are just about empty. I don't think everyone's probably already streamed everything. So this is... We don't repackage here, so we come up with a fresh show every week.

03:06 Is it time? I guess we can. Yeah, go ahead. All right. Here we go. It's time to find out what is the topic as we spin the wheel of topics. It's theater of the mind, people. Where it stops, nobody knows. But Mo Fax might have some kind of idea. Today's topic is. I will hold the vote hostage if I have to. I will hold the vote hostage if I have to. Did this register on your timeline, on your media feed, anywhere? Honest, I've been so engrossed in Corona crap that it may have. I did not see it. And also, my timeline is, it's hard to look at any timeline anymore.

03:51 What the hell happened? This is Diddy. No, I didn't catch this. Did not catch what's going on. All right. Well, let's just hop right into number two then. The rapper P. Diddy, he was in a live stream with Naomi Campbell, I believe, for her YouTube show. And he talked about the Democratic Party taking the black vote for granted, particularly with respect to Vice President Biden. He said he's even willing to hold his vote, quote, hostage. Listen to what he said. In order for us to vote for Biden, we can't be taken for granted like we always are because we're supposed to be Democrats or because people are afraid of Trump. It's whoever's going to take care of our community, whoever wants to make a deal. It's business at this point.

04:33 You know, we can't trust politicians, you know. So we want to know very clearly, just like Trump made it clear that he wanted to build the wall, Biden needs to make it clear that he's going to change the lives and quality of life of black and brown people, else he can't get the vote. I will hold the vote hostage if I have to. Okay. Okay, hold on. For those of you who have been listening since episode one, it's been about. about 30 weeks, and you've heard this message consistently that this was going to happen. And Diddy is no small fish when it comes to this kind of statement. Not at all. And he said the black social media

05:20 statement to the point where it made it to the hill. And this is who's doing the reporting now with Sagar. And I forget the other lady's name. I like her now. What is her name? From the Hill? Yes. I don't know. You were just talking about her with John. But I mean, anyway. Oh, Crystal Ball? Crystal Ball. I was thinking of some kind of household appliance or something. I was like, was it Dyson Vacuum Cleaner? No, Crystal Ball. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Yes. So Crystal Ball and Sagar, it made it to their platform.

06:04 So that lets you know how big of a deal it was. So what we're going to do is, as we always do, dig into what Diddy actually said, what his political background is, his political history is, how it was received, and what we can really take from this. I like it. I like it. This is going to be similar to the Kanye show. And Kanye and Diddy are quite similar. I would say Kanye's probably kind of like 2.0 of Diddy. Now, for people. Didn't Kanye, didn't they do stuff back in the day? Weren't they at some point working together? Is that just my. Oh, yeah, they worked together before, but I'm just saying that the archetype.

06:47 Oh, sure. Kanye kind of walks right in the same footsteps that Diddy did. So I'm just saying that this is going to be a very similar examination. That's unexpected because I have my opinion, just from what I know, is Kanye not exactly the same as Diddy, but Diddy's a little more mysterious. So I'm not quite sure where he stands on stuff necessarily. As we get in the show, he's made it quite clear where he stands, but it just doesn't make the media rounds as much. Well, of course, it's probably not a popular message with the media. So let's let Crystal Ball and Sagar continue with part two.

07:28 That's quite a statement. Hold the vote hostage if I have to. P. Diddy willing to go further than Bernie Sanders, than most people on the left. I mean, really, that is a radical statement in today's sort of hyper-partisan politics. But I think a lot of people feel that way of basically like, you're always going to tell us, we'll get you next time around. Next time around, we're going to focus on this time. We just have to beat the opponent because the opponent is so bad, whether that's Donald Trump or Mitt Romney or George W. Bush. And next time around, whoever it is that we have to beat, it's going to be, well, they are so bad. Like, you have to toe the line.

08:08 You have to vote for this guy. And the sentiment there is like, no, actually, I don't. That's pretty clear. But it's so radical to ask for something for your vote. Well, by the way, the white people are all in on this too. The white Democrats. Clearly, nobody with a brain looks at Joe Biden and says that that's the guy. I mean, yeah, maybe one day, 30 years ago, but oh, oh, we have to, we have to vote for him because Trump. Exactly. Battle 45. So

08:50 it's amazing, as I always point out on this show, whatever happens with us first, whatever happened in the primaries. Yeah, this is true. You should have seen this coming, but somehow it caught the Democrats by surprise. It's like, how did you not see this coming? I mean, we've been saying this for, like you said, since the beginning of this show, and that's kind of how our whole relationship started was off of this sentiment. And that's an interesting point because all it really took is for someone to speak and someone to listen. You know, there's a million reasons why you wouldn't have to reach out to me. There's a million reasons why I'd be like, who's this Kook?

09:33 I don't want to listen. Right. That's literally all it took. It's like, oh, who knows? This guy might have, I was on my honeymoon. I'm like, who's this guy? On my honeymoon interrupted. And you wanted to know. You could tell that because you said the word DOS. And I'm like, okay, now he's digging in the weeds to pull that. that terminology out. I mean, from compared to the mainstream, it's like you're actually doing your homework. I was like, well, let me share some more information. And that's kind of what we do on the show now. Well, now it's a lot. Now I only do this show just to find out what's going to happen to me.

10:15 It's the only reason I'm here now, Moe. It's just an early warning system. I go back and warn my brothers and sisters. Hey, this is coming. If it works for you, look, whatever works for you, you could consider that a tangible, I guess. Yeah, hell yeah. Very tangible. Very tangible. Okay. Well, I just want to let people know the title of this video I took this from was Diddy's shocking and all caps message to Biden on behalf of black voters. I will hold the vote. I can get it. All caps hostage. So it really

11:00 wonder what Diddy is up to, but we're going to get into that. Let's let Crystal Ball and Sagar continue. And I'm not convinced that doing that is ultimately in the best interest of my community because it never has been in the past. Because every time we just go along and accept the scraps that you're willing to give us, you think that we're going to do that next time around. And so we only ever end up with scraps. Pretty wild to hear him articulate it. Yeah, no, but you know, it's not that wild because that isn't, that's how a normal person thinks. Right. You say, this is business. It's like a business transaction, which is I'm not going to just, you can't just keep promising something and under not deliver.

11:39 Or not even promise anything. What you want or not even promise anything. Hey, do they not have actual audio of him saying this? They're just going to, they have a transcript or where did this come from? And where did he say this? He said it on the Naomi Campbell. They were on like a live stream. I think she has kind of like a show live stream show. Like the supermodel, Naomi Campbell? Yes. I have the full clip. I'm going to play that, but I just wanted to play their reaction to it because this is the bubbling over and the reaction of what he said. I got you. And as Sagar said, normal people ask for something in return.

12:22 So we haven't been normal all these years, I guess. Well, okay, you took it that way. Interesting. No, no, no. No, what I mean is. I got you. Yeah. I hear you. The point what I'm making is it is abnormal to give something away. Yes, it is. This behavior, I'm not disagreeing with it. And everything that they've captured so far in this is what I've been saying and a lot of other people have been saying and been verbally abused and called all kinds of names and treated bad for just being a normal human being of expecting something back for giving something. Right. So I think this set of clips that we have here is just validation.

13:06 Just pure validation. Yeah, no kidding. Everything we have. And I'm literally hearing what you would since the since the day I met you. I'm literally hearing this now from PD. It's great. And since they're on a roll, let's not stop them. Yeah, look, if you accept scraps and lip service, you're going to get more scraps and lip service. And at a certain point, you have to say, no, I don't accept it. And the only way to actually wield that power, as we've talked about here, the entire Democratic Party's political strategy, and this is their greatest innovation over the past 30 years, is not policy, it's not principles. It's this political strategy of telling the left, and especially the economic populist left, basically screw you.

13:48 That's the innovation. And assuming that you're going to have to show up anyway. And much as you may not be happy about it, you're going to have to toe the line because the opposition is so much worse. I'm impressed by Crystal Ball. She's lit. She knows what's going on with this. Now, we'll have to give it to the heel that they have their thumb on the pulse of what's going on in politics. Now, of course, they have a motive behind that because they're not the establishment. I don't see them as the establishment corporate media.

14:27 So they're fighting against that and they're fighting back, but they're looking for allies, which I'm fine with them being an ally because they're voicing an opinion that we've highlighted on the show and we've highlighted over and over again. So I definitely appreciate what she said. And I just feel, like I said, I feel so validated. Yeah. and rightly so. I'm just looking, who owns the Hill? Where does it, who's behind this thing? That's a good question. Who is behind the hill? Let me see. 94 Democratic, founded in 94 by Democratic power broker, the New York businessman, Jerry Finkelstein or Steen, and Martin Tolchin, former correspondent for the New York Times.

15:15 Yeah, it's purely political. I know that, but I know he died and someone else took over. Where the way they're talking, it sounds like the Russians own them because I mean, they're supporting black bots. Well, you know what? No kidding, with this kind of talk, the Hill will be marginalized, and they are definitely more bigger fans of the left than the right. They're making a lot of enemies. But as you asked for, and as we always do, we like to go and get the source material. So I have the clip. It's about 50 seconds long of Diddy talking to Naomi Campbell. The black vote is not going to be for free. We're going to have to see some promises.

16:00 You know, what are we getting in return for our vote? Nothing has changed for black America. And in order for us to vote for Biden, we can't be taken for granted like we always are because we're supposed to be Democrats or because people are afraid of Trump. It's whoever's going to take care of our community, whoever wants to make a deal, it's business at this point. You know, we can't trust politicians, you know. So we want to know very clearly, just like Trump made it clear that he wanted to build the wall, Biden needs to make it clear that he's going to change the lives and quality of life of black and brown people, else he can't get the vote. I will hold the vote hostage if I have to. He said it here, said it first.

16:42 Breaking news. Breaking news. What kind of clout does Diddy have, do you think, in this case? Huge? Diddy has a lot of clout. And I will say this. He's always kept his image somewhat tied to the quote-unquote streets. Where a lot of other people went corporate, he didn't really take the corporate route of what you see with the music executives.

17:19 He's always kept his ear. And that's why I think he knows he's taking the temperature to figure out what's really going on because that's kind of his niche is to figure out what the streets want and give it to them in a way they didn't realize they wanted it. I did that with his music. I agree with that. But you definitely, Diddy is a corporate entity. So he did go the corporate route, but I agree that he just maybe he's just more real than some of the other guys. Because he does have a feel. He picks it. He has a feel for it. But the guy is very good at business. And what I mean by corporate, of course, he's corporate. I mean, he owns large billion-dollar businesses.

18:05 What I'm saying is that he didn't isolate himself from what the people in the streets wanted. He always stayed connected in some kind of way. Agreed. Whereas a lot of other ones, they put the suit on, they go up in the penthouse. Right. Okay. I got you. What comparison I'll give you? Say at Jay-Z, for instance. Diddy would know how it would land to make a deal with the NFL. He will be more aware and not talking about how that would be received by the people. Right. Whereas the Jay-Z, he's become so corporate-minded that the bottom line is the bottom line that

18:49 it kind of missed him how it would be received for some of the moves he made. Well, that's that's the yeah. And the proof, the proof is in what he's doing right here. This is not a brand safe statement. This is not this kind of statement, a political statement that anybody who has business to lose makes easily. So kudos to Diddy for this. It depends on your brand, but that's a little foreshadowing. But we'll get to that later. So I had a little throwback clip from show 18 just to give people an idea. If you talked about talk like this, maybe a year, year and a half ago, how you were talking about what would happen to you.

19:32 Because if we know, as we've seen, that the ones who are the most valuable to the Democratic Party is black women. We have identified at least five existing campaigns that are focused. focused on getting black people to do only one thing. What not vote for the Democrats? And can you name one of those five campaigns? I mean, we put up from the report that you're saying that there's a conversation about reparations that has to do with it. There's a criminal justice conversation. There's an immigration. Go on. Reparations, immigration, and sorry, reparations, immigration, and anything that has to do with the criminal justice system.

20:12 So the reason that the targeting of Kamala around being a cop is important is because anything that hinges on criminal justice becomes a divisive issue. Seriously, we're out of time, but how can people tell the difference between the real genuine thing of Black Lives Matter and the ones that are just designed to make you not vote? How do you even tell? You could tell right away by the language that they use most of the time. But if you see anyone who says basically tangibles or you're not getting our vote without us getting something back, you should start to pause and take a better look at what they're saying. Better look at those accounts and see what they're saying. Yeah, it's probably racist and racist bots.

20:53 That's what's going on there. Diddy bots. He's a Diddy bot. Diddy bots. That's right. Yeah, it wasn't Diddy, man. That was a deep fake. Naomi Camp. Campbell, deep fake. Now we see how far we've come in just a year, really. From then to now, where you had these crazy bots on the that's how we were labeled on the internet talking this crazy want something for their vote. Yeah. So you have a major celebrity coming out and saying, well, we should probably trade our vote for something. Now, the something is where I'll take an issue with, but I don't want to get into that just yet.

21:32 But I felt the tides are turning. And one of my favorite places I like to go take the temperature at is Miss Karen Hunter's show. Oh, yeah, throw on that serious satellite. Right. So on her show, like maybe a week or two ago, she had an interesting segment called What is the Black Vote Worth? We support black candidates all the time, but somehow the message is not getting to the people because they're not showing up to vote. We just had a Houston representative on who was running. She lost in the primary, and I thought she would have been dynamic, but they're not showing up because they don't have faith and they feel like 40, 50 years they've been asked to give up a vote with nothing in return.

22:13 And that's the retort. So it's hard to sit here every day and argue that you should just vote Democrat because we don't want another, you know, re-elected Trump. But what are we getting? There's no reparations on the table. I get that. You know, what policy should we be really pushing? I don't know. Drew, what you know, help me. Drew can't help you, but I'll help you, Karen. It's one of all the requests that we have, and that's, well, two, actually. Reparations is the first one. And that's the big ask. And as I always tell people, reparation is equal to open borders or

22:57 for just a pro-life people abolishing Roe versus Wade. These are things that's an election issue. And it's a mile mark. It's like a, okay, how far are we from this big ask? Now, you might, okay, we don't want to get rid of open. I mean, we don't want to have open borders, but what we can do is relax ice. Or, you know, you're headed towards that way. So we might not get to reparations right away, but we need to see those tangible steps to getting to that point. Do I get to read Joe Biden's announcement yet? Or do you want to make please? I want to read his tweet, actually, because that was the funniest part. And then I'll read you the

23:44 part that says it all. So at joebiden.com/slash blackamerica, this is a very long lift every voice, the Biden plan for black America. I'll just. Wait, wait, wait, wait, right there. Wait, right there. This is appropriation. You might not know this. Lift every voice is the first bar. Lift every voice. Yes, of course. The first bars of the Negro national anthem. It starts all lift every voice and sing. Well, don't get too excited, Mo. No, no, I'm just telling you. Yes, I get it. The spell, it's a spell.

24:24 Go ahead. Okay. No, no, no, no, no. Now, I understand why they wrote this. Now, when you said it, I was like, oh, okay, I get it. You call it a spell. That's interesting. Mind manipulation. Right? Joe Biden knows that African-American. Americans can never have a fair shot at the American dream so long as entrenched disparities are allowed to quietly chip away at opportunity. Hello, Quincy Jones. What? Okay. He is running for president to rebuild our economy in a way that finally brings everyone along and that starts by rooting our systemic racism from

25:03 rooting out systemic racism from our laws, our policies, our institutions, and our hearts. And then it goes right into, I'll give you a summary. COVID-19, blah, blah, blah. Education, blah, blah, blah. People of color, minorities, blah, blah, blah. Poor people, African American, buy a new home. Minorities get a credit, blah, blah, blah. And then all of a sudden, reparations. What? Hold on a second. Tackle systemic. Here it is. It's the only paragraph, but here it is. Tackle systemic racism and support a study of the continuing impacts of slavery.

25:48 I'll read this because already I know you're suspicious. As Biden has said in this campaign, a Biden administration will support a study of reparations. How the way Biden will begin on day one of his administration to address the systemic racism and do some studies. Dude, this is, didn't we just have a whole study that he was the only one that didn't participate? He wanted to do his own study. So that's just a non-I mean, of course, I texted that to you.

26:27 That's a non-starter. And I see your study and I raise you a study with Karen Hunter featuring Corey Booker. But I'm just going to say the reparations bill introduced for the first time in the Senate. Thank you very much. I sponsored it in the Senate. We're seeing progress on these concepts that we couldn't even talk about that weren't even being talked about. Reparations was a major issue in the campaign of the 2020 campaign. We are making progress, but I hear what you're saying, Karen. We've had this conversation. You should have just had me to co-host your show like 10 years ago. We could have been good. You have been invited, sir. Don't play that game with me today. We can have that. And happy belated birthday.

27:06 So you got me, Clay, and Senator Booker, all bulls. So we already know what's coming out, right? Corey. If you have a bunch of bulls, you know what's coming out, don't you, Adam? Well, yes. Bullshit. That's what it is. Did you catch what he said in the first 20 seconds of that clip? No, because I was adjusting my ears to it. So I didn't quite catch it, but I'd love to. Please run it back and see if you could catch what he said. But I'm just going to say the reparations bill introduced for the first time in the Senate. They said something about the reparations bill is introduced. The reparations bill for the first time in the Senate.

27:47 It's past that. But I'm just going to say the reparations bill introduced for the first time in the Senate. Thank you very much. I sponsored it in the Senate. He sponsored that? Keep going. We're seeing progress on these concepts that we couldn't even talk about. That weren't even being talked about. Reparations was a major issue in the campaign of the 2020 campaign. Okay, tell me what you're saying. No, I don't think so. He said that we couldn't even talk about. Well, maybe he couldn't talk about it. What does he mean by that? That was very, because he fixed it after he said it. No, I'm nitpicking here.

28:28 No, I'm with you. I want to pick it. We couldn't even talk about that. That means somebody's telling you. But what couldn't it? Let me just look. We're seeing progress on these concepts that we couldn't even talk about. That weren't even being talked about. Reparations. Oh, yeah. Okay. I hear you. That is a good flub. Let me just go back a little bit. Hold on. Thank you very much. I sponsored it in the Senate. We're seeing progress on these concepts that we couldn't even talk about. They weren't even being talked about. Reparations. Okay, I got you. Yeah. So that is interesting. But of course, if you, I'm just looking at it from his perspective.

29:07 If you talk about this and you get labeled a Russian bot, you know, then maybe he was wary because of that and that the media made him not be able to talk about it. Yeah, but the point I'm making is the Democratic Party, aka the savior of all black people on the face of this earth, couldn't even talk about it. Talk about it. If you can't talk about it, who can talk about it? I'm just confused. That's a good catch. That's a very. very good catch, especially from Booker. Right. Because he fixed it up after it said, oh, well, he did. He did. That's a good catch. I don't want to beat a dead. I mean, behind the city. No, no, of course. Hey, Spartacus can handle it. So

29:52 now, as we always do, we have to go back. This is where we're going to go back to the bottom. And what I want to do is I want to go back and look at Diddy's political evolution. And we're going to start in 2004 with the vote or die campaign. How can this happen in America, the richest, most powerful country in the world? It shouldn't. This is a matter of life or death. This election is life and death, which is why Citizen Change has come up with our campaign slogan: vote or die. See, when you vote for a president this November, you are putting your life and the lives of your family in the hands of someone else.

30:34 If I'm scaring you, good, because that's how serious this is. I had no fan of Bush, and we know that. This is true, but if I'm scaring you, good. Yeah. I want to show, I'm highlighting this point: this is when he was fully drinking the Kool-Aid of vote or die. You know, your whole life depends on your life, not your livelihood, not your quality of life, but your actual life depended on who was the president. Well, then that's a very powerful message, but it's somewhat exaggerated, probably. I mean, in fact, I mean, the same thing is being told now.

31:17 Politicians are literally saying life or it's Donald Trump re-election is an existential threat. We will die. So it's used. It's used. But yeah, Diddy was all in. He was all in. But didn't he hate Obama after a while? Or he had some kind of beef with Obama? Curry, Curry. Hold on a second. I'm putting him on. Goggles in place. I'm sorry. And let's let Diddy finish up with his vote or die campaign. These are the issues that the people are concerned about. But just as politicians have a responsibility, so do we.

31:59 We can't hold them accountable if we don't hold ourselves accountable. We have to vote. Because no politician is going to deal with these issues unless they feel your power. And they will not feel you unless you vote. Trust me. Neither party has factored your vote into their equation. Neither party thinks you're going to step up and vote. But they are afraid of what will happen if you do. Because then they will be forced to deal with the issues that are important to you. The forgotten ones. Let me repeat. The forgotten ones. Over 40 million youth and minority voters will be the deciding factor on who will be the next president of the United States. Trust me. Just an impression, just from a couple of things he said at the beginning of that clip.

32:44 If you remove the vote or die part, it almost sounded a bit like Malcolm X. You know, like both, neither party has your interests at heart. You know, there was, there was, he had a little influence going on there. He did, but he says neither party has accounted for your vote. Yeah. No, I understand what you're saying, but before that, you know, he got some vibe going. But yeah, the whole. No, no, and this is Young Diddy too. Young Diddy was a was a very outspoken. That's why I said he reminds you a lot of Kanye, but in a different way. But they come from the same him, Kanye Trump, they're all the similar animals. I was just going to say, they'll have their own extremities.

33:29 And Kanye or Diddy is probably the seemingly has it together more than the rest. Yes. Yes. He's more of a social. Yeah. Yeah. He's more social than the other two. You can bring him home to meet mom. You know, the other two, problem. Yeah. So this vote or die thing was so popular that even South Park took time to poke fun at it. Friend Kyle told me you don't understand the importance of voting. Apparently you haven't heard of my vote or die campaign.

34:14 Vote or die? What the hell does that even mean? What do you think it means, bitch? Vote or die, mother motherfucker vote or die. Rout the vote or else I'm going to stick a knife through your eye. Democracy is founded on one simple reason. rule. Get out there and vote, or I will mother kill you. Yeah, I like it when you vote, bitch. Bitch, shake them titties when you vote, bitch. Bitch, I slam my Jimmy through your mouth, roof, mouth, roof. I'll get your big ass in the polling booth. I said, vote, bitch, or I f will kill you. Vote or die, mother mother vote or die. Can't run from a 38. Go ahead and try.

34:55 Let your opinion be heard. You gotta make a choice. Cause after I slit your throat, you won't have a fing voice. Vote or die. Vote or die. Okay, I'll vote. I heard that. That's great. They basically was playing playing on the fact that, oh, your life is going to end if you don't vote. Which when I heard this campaign, I just got to give you insight where I was at in life. Before. How old are you? This is 16 years old. I'm 20. I am 23 years old.

35:39 This was the only election I voted in. Because Diddy was going to kill you? No, because this was when Bush was the devil. Well, no, I mean, like, literally, I mean, that's an Antichrist. I mean, I so it's like, oh, you got to get out there, you know. So I was, oh, I'll go, you know, chip in, you know, and vote. Past that, I was 2000. What was I doing? 2000. I don't know. But this was kind of like, you know, when you're, I was, I think

36:24 this was your first vote. Right. This was my first vote. And it was like, after that, I was like, that was pointless because nothing changed. And then, okay, then they gave us Obama in 08. And I saw right through him after the primaries. I was caught up in the primaries. I'm not going to lie. But then when I started seeing where the money started coming from, I was like, oh, okay. I see what's up. But Diddy was still drinking the Kool-Aid. And they had caught up with him when he was casting his vote in 08 for the U.S.

37:04 presidential election. And let's listen to what he had to say. People have died and fought for us to have this right. And so the exercise is right today. It's like giving back to Martin Luther King and Rosa Pauls and everybody that fought for us to have this right to vote. You know, as a representative of the youth vote, you know, I think that this year we're going to shock the world. We're going to break all the numbers, all the records ever. And I think we'll be like responsible for who's the next president of the United States. So it's very important. This is for my kids. It's not even for me. It's for my kids that have a better life. We especially, we're not going to vote for nobody just because they're black. You know, we're voting for him because he's the best candidate.

37:44 And we probably judge him harder than other ethnic groups would. Like, he has to be extra, extra qualified for us to vote for him. And that's why we're voting for him, not because he's black. You know what I'm saying? It does feel good that we finally have somebody that's actually qualified that's given a chance. And he was given a chance. He took advantage of it. And we're there for him. I'm not buying it. No, no, no, no, no. No, absolutely. I'll give it to. I mean, like I said, he was caught up in the moment. Around 08, everybody was caught up in the moment. But this is after 01. That's when my real like being skeptical thing is like,

38:28 what is this all about? I mean, because 9-11. I'm sorry. Can you just bookmark for us in future? We should actually do a show. And I'd love to bring some of my research to this on Obama's rise. Because that's the part to me, that's what I saw. What? He did what? Where's he coming from? And that's a story that to this day is still active news with Blagojevich. Yeah. And I'm going to say this. I've said it before. I said it again. Obama wasn't the Boulev's choice.

39:08 The black power political power structure was owned and operated by Hillary Clinton. And the Clinton found, I mean, Clinton Klan. But when Obama was just such a charismatic person and this is what we pointed out in the Bernie Sanders episode, he actually attacked her and showed how she was a poor candidate. So that swung a lot of votes his way, and then the bullet naturally just follows where the power structure goes. Yeah. But 08, it wasn't a given that he was going to win from the black point of view because you had a lot of black supporters that were Clinton supporters.

39:58 Right. Oh, I'm sure. I just want to make sure we do some show about that in the future. Oh, we definitely can because that was a very interesting case. How he came out of nowhere. And when I mean nowhere, I mean nowhere. Really nowhere. Right. So we're going to fast forward from 08 to 2016. And Diddy starts to change a little bit. You know, I'm going to be announcing something very big if they don't stand up and talk about how things are going to change for the voting blocks that they're going for that'll put them in office.

40:40 They need the African-American voting block, the Latino voting block, and they're not bringing up the issues and they're not making strong enough commitments for our votes. So we have to be undecided. We have to hold our votes and we have to just hear what they have to say. And tomorrow, if they don't talk about what they're going to do for our communities that are in such dire service, that we're going to have something to say about that will kind of teach and educate from my perspective of

41:18 starting vote or die and being involved in how I'm disenfranchised with not seeing enough attention to a voting block that is just kind of guaranteed. They people count their votes without dealing with their issues. So we can't guarantee anybody, Hillary Clinton, to vote. We can't guarantee Donald Trump to vote. We have to make sure that they're talking about issues. That's how the game is played. We're going to make the difference and we're going to be educating people. But we hope that they recognize it and they speak on it. So we're going to see. But if not, there's something that's going to be done more powerful than vote or die.

42:02 Wow, man. I never knew this diddy 2016, huh? That's 2016. I like how he sounds there. That sounds great. You can hear him change from 2004 where he was like, oh, this is a block that's uncounted and uncounted for. He became more politically aware of the black block vote. And now he's starting to say, yeah, y'all are very dependent upon this block to be able to win. And he actually continues on to talk like this in 2016, but it didn't really pick up any

42:40 news. Because, I mean, he was really couching his statements very carefully. Well, God bless him, man, because when it comes to this particular issue, depending on how vocal he gets, you know, I fear for him. If he really goes all out on this and says, I'm, you know, which he clearly did, I'm blocking the votes. Not going to happen. Holy crap. I mean, they take people out for nothing, man. Yeah, that's why I said this sent shockwaves through the whole smallest aviation, no hot tubs. Give him the list, Curtie. Give them the list. That's enough. That's enough for now.

43:27 So even further in 2016, he went to MSNBC and he sat down with Al Sharpton to talk about education and presidential politics. You know, I know the kind of influence you have. I've seen it all over the country, all over the world. And you say that of the political stuff. But if you could tell either candidate, and I know you know Mrs. Clinton, you know Trump, the importance of young people, what would you want them to know? I don't want you getting into politics. Whoever the next president is, what do they need to do to help young people become successful? So I think that they, number one, they have to pay attention and they have to speak to young people.

44:11 If they don't, you know, a lot of young people aren't going to show up. They got to get the right people to talk to the young people. And they're very disenfranchised. disenfranchised. I mean, my number one thing, though, and to be honest, is black people. I feel like we put President Obama in the White House. And when I look back, I just wanted more done for my people because that's the name of the game. This is politics. You put somebody in office, you get in return the things that you care about for your communities. I think we got a little bit short change, and that's not knocking the president. You know, there's a lot going on, a lot of balls in the joke.

44:55 He's done an excellent job, you know. But I think it's time to turn up the heat because the black vote is going to decide who is the next president of the United States. So I hope that turn up the heat. Okay, and I'm sorry, what year was this? This is 2016 as well. Well, 15, 16. Right. Okay, all right. So this is before. All right. Wow. This is still doing the Trump, Trump-Hillary election. Yes. But it was something weird about that whole exchange because Al Sharp was telling you, I don't want to make you political. But you're talking about presidential politics. I don't know if Diddy told him, like, hey, I don't want to get political.

45:35 I don't really really. Well, why else are you on that show? Right. He's walking this fine line of, you know, not wanting to piss people off, but he knows. I mean, it's kind of like you know the truth, but you can't tell the truth. Right. And I think this is all building up to get to the point where we're at now. And of course, Fox News took this soundbite and ran with it. And disappointed Diddy rapper says Obama short changed blacks. Okay. That is the whitest sentence I've ever read. Disappointed Diddy rapper says Obama short changed blacks.

46:19 Rapper Sean Diddy Combs knocking President Obama for disappointing the black community and issuing a call to action when it comes to Hillary Clinton. I feel like we put President Obama in the White House. And when I look back, I just, I just, I just wanted more done for my people. I think we got a little bit short change. Hillary Clinton, I hope she starts to directly talk to the black community. As a community, we got to hold our vote. So you see how Fox News. Of course. As they should.

47:00 I mean, that's what you do. That's their job is to spend. But what's interesting, the bias. And I kind of like the way you put those clips together. So you have Diddy first saying, hey, man, he seems like the qualified guy. Now, when you look at Obama, you listen to Obama, you look at whatever record there was publicly available of him. He looks absolutely qualified. He's definitely, I mean, we love presidents like this. Actors, Ronald Reagan, you know, great orators. Obama looked good, had the right height, spoke beautiful, beautiful vocabulary, and

47:44 comedic timing that, I mean, professional comedic timing. So in that regard, fantastic. And Diddy would disclaim. It's not just because he's black. That's not what it's about. But when he says, hey, man, the guy short changed us, immediately in everyone's mind, I will say Fox News for sure. But in everyone's mind, it's like, oh, he screwed the blacks. No, he screwed all, he scrolled all of America. That's true. And one thing you got that Obama had, he had the right amount of swag. And swag is another word for cool. And it's this other, it's this,

48:30 it's this thing that you want to measure. I mean, like, how do you say somebody's cool or not? No, I can tell you the example is slow jam on the tonight show. Only Obama can do that. Right. Is that that's a perfect example. Or break out into Al Green. That was pushing it. That was pushing it for me, but okay. Oh, it was. But I'm just saying he could pull. He can pull it off. Yeah. He can pull off. Okay, I'm going to spite you what he had. He had what Jerome didn't have from the last show. All right. I got you. I got you. So Diddy continues on.

49:12 I mean, these next couple days are still friends. 2016. And I lost all these, man. This is great. Well, of course, Mo, I got to thank you, man. I'm so glad I met you and came into my life, and there's all this stuff I know now. And now I'm listening. This, like, oh, where was I? I didn't hear it. I don't know what's going on. All right. That goes to show you the power of media. You only know what's presented, what was presented before you. That's right. So I want people to take this not only about Diddy, but a lot of black people took this journey with him of

49:49 Obama was great in 08. We know he even had to, in 2016, had to say Obama did great things, which we know is not true because Tavis Smiley came out and wrote a whole book about it. And we covered it in previous shows. So those are all talking points. But as Diddy continues on 2016, he starts to get more vocal. And we can hear that on the Sam Roberts show in the next clip. Well, you want to know what I want to know about. We've been talking about Donald Trump a lot. He's a fellow successful businessman, but now he's running for president. Does he have the puffy vote?

50:31 Nobody has my vote right now. No, you actually stated you think voting is a scam coming from vote or die and all that stuff. You do? No, no, that's what they ran with. I really said I said that it's not, I thought the deal was very simple. I vote for you and you give me what I need. That's usually how it is. So when I got, you know, so I was for voter die, I'm out there like you went hard. Yeah, I'm young people, young people, people of color, you know, that's part of the process. And, and, but, you know, I just felt and still feel like,

51:13 you know, for putting Obama in there, that we should have got more, you know, because we put him in there. But I'm not, you know, it ain't no beef. I'm not saying he did so die. He did so many things. It's just, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I know what you're saying. What? What did he do? And this is where me and Diddy start to. Before you get into your beef with Diddy, Tavis, you mentioned Tavis Smiley. He wrote a whole book about it. I would just like to point out that Tavis Smiley has been removed from the media landscape. Oh, he was removed in 08. But that's what I'm saying. I mean, he, yeah, yeah. I mean, the guy has been removed.

51:58 And Tavis Smiley at one time was one of the blackest men in America. A reason why I say that is when he was on BET, I think pre-the Viacom deal, he used to have a show that came on weeknights. And man, he used to say something like, like, really for mainstream television radical things. But when Viacom came in and brought up BT, he was one of the first to go, along with all the quality content. Right, but you know, then, but then he went to, then he went to NPR and PBS, and he had the show. And then they took his ass down in 2017. Yep.

52:40 But that started, I think, in 08. Oh, he went straight to Obama Kool-Aid. Oh, yeah. I'm sure. I'm sure. So that's, again, it's like, I don't know if Diddy's supposed to be afraid of you or the Democrat Party, but I'll hear what your takedown reveals. Well, no, it's not really a takedown, but you got an issue. He walks this line. This very, like, you picked up on it, people of color. He'll say something about black people, and then he has to throw in all these other demographics. And then in this clip, the guy said, yeah, you called voting a scam.

53:19 He said, oh, that's what they put on me. And I have the quote from him. Right. But this is the difference between Diddy and Kanye. Diddy has filters and you're hearing it. I can almost hear them clicking in place, like you mentioned. Kanye has no filter. But if you're going to have a filter, always have it engaged. Because when you don't have it engaged, and you say, I'm going to read the clip to you, I mean, read the quote to you. He says, See the thing. You see the things that the tricky that's tricky about politics is there's so much bullshit with it. We started vote or die, and from the community we're in, we're not with hearing too much of the bullshit.

53:59 That's why we get disenfranchised. We're disconnected because nothing that they're saying actually relates to us. So vote or die and getting out the vote, those. were laid out, those were laid out there so people could understand about the process. We started vote or die, and the whole process was full of shit. Uh, a whole the whole shit was a scam. He said it, he said it himself. So, it's like, and then you say, when somebody asks you, he's like, oh, they put that on me, like, you didn't say it. So, I'm like, this is this is when people do that, it's if you said it, you said it, or if you, or if you said it, and you say, oh, I was angry when I said that, you know, and I kind of changed, but he tried to make it seem like he didn't say that, and that's where I start to get leery with all, yeah.

54:49 Well, it's hard, though. You're saying he's walking the line, but that's why he's Diddy. He almost got a billion dollars. I mean, I know that's I know, but if you can't be free with just say a hundred million dollars, just say he's worth million dollars. No, no, no. No, you're free, and you could you're a free man talking and free man walking as a podcaster. Can't be a billionaire, it's very difficult. I would like to disagree with you on that because Kanye was just announced to be a billionaire.

55:30 Okay, so well, we've discussed what power structure behind him, but I'm just saying that this back and forth, this game he plays, I don't like it. Just for my test, all right. No, it's I'm with you. Okay, so uh, let's look, let's continue to listen to Diddy on the uh Sam Roberts show. So, I was just talking about the voting thing. I can't keep on telling somebody to do something if I don't understand. I'm not saying not to vote, I'm saying just we really gotta have to be clear with our list of demands this time. Like, excuse me, make it a little smaller, more realistic. Like, if there's maybe some little bit of education over here, yeah, it's like it's not vote, please, but maybe not vote or die, it's not life and death anymore.

56:17 Yeah, no, no, but but um, um, it was life or death then, and it still is now. It's just that we, you, we got to figure out as the as the people how we win because you know, at the end of the day, it's it's something that's just off about it. So, when you get into the political process and then you got to go, and then every election comes, and you see more and more and more the same bullshit. And you, I'm a brand of like honesty, so I got to be honest, you know what I'm saying? Hey, hey, y'all, I know we vote or die, we registered, we see that we can get somebody in office, but there's a glitch in the matrix.

56:54 You know what I'm saying? I'm just letting you know, I'm not telling you not to not vote, but before this next one, I don't know if it's Trump or Hillary, whoever it is, but we need to have a meeting so there's no more glitches in the matrix. We need a lot of lawyers around and witnesses because these guys be forgetting quickly. Pet peeves, shut up about the glitch, just a little peeve, little peeve. But when he says they need to have lawyers around, it seemed like he was promised something for the whole vote or die and all the progress he made. Oh, for sure. I mean, those campaigns don't come out of nowhere like that with him at the helm. No, no, no. Oh, no, there's no, oh, I should have been looking it up already who was behind that.

57:39 Yeah, so he's been promised a lot of things, and now he's disenchanted with the Democratic Party, but then he still, and I know people like this. They'll tell you, oh, yeah, Joe Biden wrote the crime bill, and they'll list off all these negative things, but then they'll say, Well, our life depends on it. It's like, what world are you living in? I mean, you just said all of these things, and then you come back and do this weird return back into this expected mind state that you're supposed to be in. Yeah. And that's the issue I have is, okay, I'm not, I'm going to let him answer that.

58:16 I'm about to ask the question, but he's going to answer that. So I caught up with a clip between Toray and Diddy on the Tom's talk. And just listen to Diddy's mind state. You talk a lot about black excellence. What is black excellence and how is it different than white excellence or Asian excellence or anybody else? Yeah, there is a difference. There's a difference. It's a the difference is that we haven't really forcefully tapped into our excellence. You know, sometimes you could possess magic of superpowers and you're afraid of them. You're afraid to tap into them.

58:57 I remember Superman, he didn't really want to fly. He was scared, you know, and we have this magic. magic about us that we were able to be brought over here to be treated the way we've been treated. And we still get up with love in our hearts now. Like, shit could be crazy. Pain is pain. We get up with love in our hearts. And we still have to deal with that pressure, you know. Like, it's fucked up. You hear it all the time. It sounds cliche, but yeah, you black, you wake up. Damn, you know, some fucked up shit could happen to me today. It don't no matter who you are, you know, and that's a hard way to live, live in fear, you know, and

59:42 to live like that. And what was the question? He got so wrapped up in the victimization mentality. He did. He got lost to fly. Citizen Change was the political service group founded by P. Diddy, Mary J. Blige, Mariah Carey, and Fitty Scent. Some star power right there. Yeah. Didn't know that. And apparently at the B.E.T. Awards, he made vote or die and he turned it into Obama or die. I guess that was his phrase. Okay, cool. It's all in the show notes, everybody.

1:00:27 Archived.mofacts.com. Now, he says something there I want to address. Just as an aside, he says, how did he put it? He says, pain is pain, and stuff could get ugly. Let me explain. Let me give you some inside baseball and what he's because a lot of people probably miss what he was saying. Black people have went through so much in this country and yet and still we have this positive, pleasant disposition about ourselves. Any other group of people will be plotting some kind of revenge or some kind of,

1:01:12 you don't have a militant, radical, physically violent group of black Americans. No. I mean, like that you have other countries that were oppressed. And then when they finally get their freedom, then they still want to exact revenge. You don't have that here. And that's what I'm just giving you a little insight on what he's saying. Because he kind of, I knew exactly what he was saying, but I was wanting to flesh out what he was saying that we wake up every day and we don't have that in our heart. We don't have that, you know, with the get back. You know, we got to get, we got to get some get back.

1:01:58 So I just want to explain that to that point. But it's just amazing how you have this person that lives a charmed life get so wrapped up in the victimization mentality that he even lost his train of thought. Yeah. Now, let me juxtapose that to this other mind state that he has. And what I call is the problem in a nutshell as he continues on to talk to Torre. And you said I wasn't allowing them to treat me like a black man. And how do you do that? You have to be able to walk away.

1:02:35 You know, there's a lot of cats out here to get a taste of the money. And when it comes time to doing that deal and really being in that ruthless negotiation, they really can't stomach walking away. I'm really, really crazy. I will walk away. We could be at 43 million. If I want 45 and I'm just deserving of that, and that is the rate, you're going to give me 45 million. And I want to explain to you why. Because I set the market value for my people.

1:03:17 Not since civil rights. The only thing that has really changed for us as civil rights was hip-hop. Hip-hop has been our only hope. Wow. Couple things he said there. I want to go backwards and we're going to start at the end and go back to the beginning. One, this is the problem with Diddy saying what he said. If hip-hop can get loaded with this kind of message and go around the world, that's a problem. That's a problem because they weaponize hip-hop to be a negative. And that's why I'm very careful how I do that show on hip-hop because it's very, it's very,

1:03:57 hip-hop is a very powerful vehicle. I don't understand why, because I think maybe because it's a music of the people, it's an untrained music. I mean, when you think about other music genres where you have to be trained, anybody can pick it up. When I first went to one of the first rap battles in Los Angeles in 1984, and I didn't know what the hell I was doing because I was meeting somebody. It was weird. The whole thing was weird. But I was young, too. And there were rap battles, and I'd never seen it before. And it was literally the way it started out. Slamming back and forth on each other.

1:04:42 And I'm like, this is CNN. This is black CNN right here. And that's how I've always viewed it. Right. And if they have the same power as CNN, then you could push a message a very long time. Literally, Grandmaster Flash. Right. So if you load that up with tangibles, reparations, getting rid of the victimization mentality, walking away. Notice what he said in that clip. Now we're going to back up a little bit further. And at the beginning of the clip, he says, you have to walk away.

1:05:22 That's what he's saying right now. And that's all we've been saying. If the deal is not what we want, you have to be able to walk away. If you're real about the negotiation, you always have to be prepared to walk away. And who's famous for that? Trump. Yep. So now we start to see. And I have an ISO from this clip. If you like to play it. Yeah, hold on a second. If I want 45 and I'm just deserving of that, and that is the rate, you're going to give me 45. There you go, Trump. You can run with that one. No kidding. No kidding.

1:06:04 Wow. Hey, is this Turay Neblit, that guy? Yes. What happened to him? Where'd he go? I don't know. I don't know who he pissed off, but he just disappeared. He's like, I see him whining on Twitter once in a while. But yeah, that's weird. He just kind of went away. I noticed Diddy has started before this statement. He had started making himself speaking for the people. And one of those topics he took on was recently with the coronavirus pandemic. And he was talking about how it affected the communities.

1:06:49 We talked about this and we unpacked it and talked about pre-existing conditions or whatever. But let's listen to him talk about the coronavirus. This is not a test. This is not a test. This is a real life or death state of emergency. I'm calling out to the African-American community to give you some facts. We are in a life or death state of emergency. One out of ten Americans are black. One out of two of the corona fatalities are black. We are in trouble, my people. We have to come together. We have to communicate.

1:07:30 They're not going to give us any time on the news. They're not going to come up with the solutions for us. We have to come up with our own solutions. Wow. I'm not sure his data is right, but he's sounding the right alarm bell. Yeah, he's sounding the right alarm. I'm like, okay, all right. Let me listen a little further. Let me hear what Diddy playing is. So tonight I put together an incredible panel. Dr. Jess, Big Sean, Charles Blow, Latoya Pentrell, Al Sharpton. This is the mayor of Louisiana getting hit the hardest. My brother Meek Mill. Ayana Presley. Dan Jones is going to help me moderate because it's not my full-time job.

1:08:15 I like to call her AOC. Okay? Aaron Petru. He's an economist. He's going to show us how to get to that bag. Got a $2 trillion stimulus package. We want our fair share. Voice to 59. Killer Mike. Angela Rye. YBN Corday. Camara Jones. My brother Fat Joe. Reverend Al Sharpton. Let's go. Tonight on Revolt. Revolt's YouTube.

1:08:52 You can watch from your phone. You can watch it. if you're at home. So look at it as a mandatory family meeting that everybody must show up to. Wow. And now, were they all on? Were they all at the meeting, all those people? Yes. Holy crap. Wow. Okay. Interesting twist. His panel. The reason why I rang my bell. Every time I rang my bell, there was a rapper or entertainer. Yes. What the hell do you have rappers and entertainers on a panel about a pandemic? Now, I understand. You have to bring the people in with entertainment and then you have to educate them, right?

1:09:33 I understand that relationship. Of course. But you say, okay, I'm going to have something. You, y'all perform, and then we'll have the serious people talk about serious topics. Well, now, did you go to the family meeting? Not at all. But do you think that like Killer Mike, Killer Mike's not performing? No, none of them were performing. They were all talking like, I mean, I saw clips on my post. Oh, I see. They're just performing as the Hollywood type. Come on. Oh, my AOC is the same. No, I mean, a lot of them. I mean, I could regular favorite. They're all my favorite. Angela Rye. I mean, but what I'm saying is

1:10:20 this isn't the problem. Not what I have with Diddy, but this is the problem I have when you have people come out like this and they start talking, but then they put unserious panels together. I got you. Where are the top black doctors in America? How about Ben Carson? Right. He didn't even have our bullet doctor on. Exactly. At least have. But one thing he did say was this term, our fair share. Yeah. I said, hmm, that's interesting. He said, we got to get to the bag. I love that. I love those terms. Right. We had that in the bag. So our fair share. Let's figure out what that is.

1:11:05 Attention to all my entrepreneurs, all my minority-owned small businesses, all my independent contractors, all my self-employed hustlers, all my churches. Check this out. There has been billions of dollars in stimulus money made available for us. But if we don't know where to go to fill out the forms and how to fill them out and who to send them to, then we can't get a piece of the pie. Our fair share. Okay. Last time we only got 2%. Now we need to get our fair share. Okay. So all minority-owned businesses go to ourfairshare.com right now so we can help you through this process. Love. Ourfairshare.com. Let's not play ourselves.

1:11:50 You got to have this in by Friday. That's all the money is going to be gone. I'm just being honest with you. Let's go. Well, aside from the calling all minorities. Which that could be anybody. Right. But it's absolutely. I mean, even I've been helping people I know kind of navigate some of these waters who are very, very small businesses. And I think, yeah, absolutely. I'm looking at this ourfairshare.com. Oh, good. So it's a complete educational site. Yes, it's no, it's no money-making site. That's super. It's well done.

1:12:31 Once again, though, he starts off talking black and then he ends up saying minority, which well, we have to take away his card, Mo. This has to say. No, no, no, no, no. We have to be wary. Wary and aware of when people do this bait and switch. It's like the, yeah, you start off talking black and then you come back around with the people of color. Minority business owner, that could be a white woman. That could be a disabled white man. That could be a non-binary, what is it? The non-binary gender, anybody. I'm going to let you trip over that. I'm not getting involved.

1:13:13 No, I'm just saying that when you say minority, it's very broad. Yes. So, yeah, that's, I digress. And just for the simple fact is he's talking about his fair share or our fair share. Let's talk about our fair share. And we're going to listen to this next clip of Diddy talks dollars and cents with Ellen, and that'll lead us into our donation set. How much money do you have on you right now? Talk too much. No money. You don't carry money on you? No. No. Carry money. I like this, right? right here. Who is that? Nothing.

1:13:55 Bad boy. So, so no money on you. I mean, it's just a bit of money on me and me. Oh, you do have money on you. Lord, have mercy. Where are you going after this? It's all 20s. Where are you going after this? What are you doing? You know we doing what we plan to do, girl. Beautiful. Yes, the only podcast that has actual money quotes when we talk about our support, our donations. I love that. Did Ellen say mercy? What did she say?

1:14:41 What's that? Did she say, oh, Mercy? Something like that? Oh, yeah. She said, oh, Mercy. Okay, Ellen, way to go. Hey, this is a value for value podcast. If you are still listening, then you're getting some value out of it. But what we'd like you to consider is how much value was it to you? After the end of each of these episodes, did you learn something? Do you appreciate what went into it? And just what is that for you? The two hours, sometimes we're three hours, whatever it takes, and the work that goes into structuring this and getting a lot of different pieces of research together and insights that just don't seem to be available kind of anywhere else.

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1:19:32 How do you pronounce these names? And of course, I look at this and go, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, and Dylan. But that doesn't seem to be right. Is it Dylan? Dylan? Dylan, Dylan, Dylan, and Dylan. Now, where am I supposed to get this from? What does this mean? Why does this not mean anything to me? Actually, you know what? The funny thing is this goes to from Puffy's reality show he had called Making the Band. Okay. And one of the characters on there, and it's funny that he wrote this. I mean, this is running gag, and we're talking about Diddy today, but he was

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1:27:17 Yes. I know people are saying, man, Moa is really hard on Diddy. And I'm not really perk. It's not personal. It's the fact that I've seen this over and over again. And with what I'm aware of and what I've been taught, I have to be aware when entertainers become leaders. Agreed. So I learned this from Malcolm X, and he has a famous clip on the fact of entertainers being leaders. Told you a little while ago, these leaders that they call leaders, this included Lena Horn.

1:27:59 This included Dick Gregory. And this included comedians, comics, trumpet players, baseball players. Show me in the white community where a comedian is a white leader. Show me in the white community where a singer is a white leader. Or a dancer or a trumpet player is a white leader. These aren't leaders. These are puppets and clowns that have been set up over the white community and over the black community by the white community and have been made celebrities and usually say exactly what they know that the white man wants to hear. And it is an honor, actually, that they endorsed. Dr. Martin Luther King and were against the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. That's actually an honor.

1:28:43 I never heard that. That's a great clip. And I'm sure he didn't have anything against Lena Horn. And how can you? That's sacrilegious. Right. But why is it that they always send the entertainers to speak to our community? And if I'm going to hold true to that sentiment, even though I like Diddy, I've always liked Diddy. You know, what's interesting is that the same entertainers are being sent to the white community to convince them too. Yeah. Hello. I know, I know, I know. We know what's coming.

1:29:25 We got to keep our eyes open. I know, I know. Gotcha. Yeah, when the serious people stop going out of the room and the entertainers start coming in, then you know, I mean, they're pushing the agenda. Now, I'm not saying there's a chance that Diddy can't be politically awake and aware and he wants to bring change, but it's certain things like a point out where he walks back his statements or the glaring missing of everything. And I'm surprised you didn't pick up on this. He never mentioned the word reparations. Hello? Yes. Okay. I mean, if you're going to go all out, I mean, like I said,

1:30:09 as a, yeah, the big ass. But I mean, how serious are you? But he also, I haven't heard him say tangibles either. Not at all. He just says you got to give us something. Yeah. Which that troubles me. And I have another throwback clip from show 19. Once again, Mr. Malcolm X, from the legendary speech, The Ballot and the Bullet. The political philosophy of black nationalism only means that the black man should control the politics and the politicians in his own community. The time when white people can come in our community and get us to vote for them so that they can be our political leaders and tell us what to do and what not to do is long gone.

1:31:05 By the same token, the time when that same white man, knowing that your eyes are too far open, can send another Negro into the community, get you and me to support him so he can use him to lead us astray those days are long gone. Yes. So this is why I move with caution when I hear people start to use verbiage that's used in certain circles. It's kind of like appropriation. Like, is that person appropriating it or are they really into the culture to where they, you know, they're embracing it?

1:31:48 There's a difference. Dvorak would call it milieu. Okay. So, which is fancy French for the folks you hang out with. Right. So is does Diddy have tangible speaking people in his ear? Or he understands like this is what's hot in the streets right now. Thank you. That's well, you mentioned it earlier, so it's very possible, but he's jam. Okay. I'm excited to find out. This is why I warn against having leaders. You know my theory. A lot of people may not because they may not have listened all the way back to show 30, but I would like to introduce them to my theory of a school of fish.

1:32:33 How do schools of fish swim in harmony? And how do the tiny cells in your brain give rise to the complex thoughts, memories, and consciousness that are you? Oddly enough, those questions have the same general answer: emergence or the spontaneous creation of sophisticated behaviors and functions from large groups of simple elements. Like many animals, fish stick together in groups. But that's not just because they enjoy each other's company. It's a matter of survival. Schools of fish exhibit complex swarming behaviors that help them evade hungry predators, while a lone fish is quickly singled out as easy prey.

1:33:19 So which brilliant fish leader is the one in charge? Actually, no one is. And everyone is. So what does that mean? It means you're a common. commie. Just kidding. Just kidding. It means that. Sorry. No, no, stop. No, it doesn't. No, what it means is that you don't allow yourself to get caught up in the rapture of, oh, it's. What's the guy? The Pie Piper. You know, he comes along with his pipe. I mean, his flute. He plays it. And then you get caught up.

1:34:02 Oh, Diddy's talking about reparations. He never said that. Nope. Diddy's talking about tangibles. No, he never said that. But this is how it was received. Yes. And it's very dangerous when you don't press these people. I'm not casting any aspersions against Diddy. I'm just saying I need to hear those words out of his mouth to convince me that he's not appropriating these talking points. I gotcha. Wow, that would be pretty damn phony, especially since he's kind of been saying the same thing for, you know, for, well, since 2004, but you're right.

1:34:43 He hasn't really punched through all the way yet. He has a whole TV network, the revolt. He had a revolt summit, and that's just something I didn't cover that went on since we've been doing the show. We had a revolt summit at T.I. and Candace Owens and Killer Mike and rappers. He invited Tone Talks to one, but then something happened with the invitation process. Yeah, we know what that means. Right. Something happened with the invitation process. He could have easily gave a platform to these points that have been discussed for over a year, but he hasn't.

1:35:26 So now it's like, what are you, what's going on? And I have to be that way. To finish off my thought process with the School of Fish, let's just listen to the second part of that clip. While the School of Fish is elegantly twisting, turning, and dodging sharks in what looks like deliberate coordination, each individual fish is actually just following two basic rules that have nothing to do with the shark. One, stay close, but not too close to your neighbor. And two, keep swimming. As individuals, the fish are focused on the minutiae of these local interactions.

1:36:05 But if enough fish join the group, something remarkable happens. The movement of individual fish is eclipsed by an entirely new entity, the school, which has its own unique set of behaviors. The school isn't controlled by any single fish. It simply emerges if you have enough fish following the right set of local rules. Yes. And that's the point we're trying to get to of having enough fish following the right rules. And what is that? Raising your family, breaking the victimization mentality, spending your money, you're saying, within your own communities, holding people that say they represented us politically responsible.

1:36:53 And if you're not responsible, you don't have anything to offer, then we won't exchange our vote for your political efforts. You've mentioned. It's very simple. You said something there that just kind of struck me about leaders. And this is something that has bugged me for a while when I hear politicians talk about our leaders and our leaders in Congress and our leaders in Senate. And that bugs me. They're not. They're literally a representative, not a leader, but they all want you to follow the leader and make it feel like you need a leader. And the president is the leader of the free world. And I agree with you.

1:37:33 That's not really the way to go. I like having someone trying to manage some of the mechanics of it, but it has to come from the people. And the situation we're in right now today, we are in our homes because we want to ourselves. We're afraid, or some people, very afraid, because there's no actual law keeping us in. So we have the capability to be, and I'm talking about, this is, of course, bigger than just a community or a color of people. But people do have the capability to school, but we're schooling the wrong direction.

1:38:15 And we're not, and rule number two here of Moe's School of Fish, you got to keep swimming. You got to keep swimming, basically. And that's shipping the hole here. This is not good. So people have the capacity, but for some reason, we're losing a little bit of the idea that we can do it ourselves, you know, neighbors, family, whatever group church, synagogue, temple, whatever it is, must. Whatever your school of fish is. And the thing is, different schools of fish can coexist with each other.

1:38:52 Yes. Because they're quite real types of fish, which creates an ecosystem, which if everybody's in the business of not staying too, being close enough, but not too close, and not following a leader, then we, you know, we can all be positive for the ecosystem. Yeah, I'm there. I know that's a far-out like concept, but I mean, and it's not communism either because I'm not calling for collectives. No, the reason why I said that's where they're not getting too close. When you start getting too close, it's like now we have this shared ideology that everybody has to be lockstep.

1:39:31 No, we're just kind of moving. We're all swimming. Now we might have to be going the same direction. But you brought up this point of leader, and I'm glad you did that because you made a that's an excellent point. Now they give us people to follow. Yeah. And this is a concept that started in our community. And one of those leaders, which I think she's more of a celebrity than a leader, is one Miss AOC. And she did something very underhanded. And the reason why this, Diddy associates with her, and he had her on his

1:40:14 family meeting or whatever he wanted to call it. But she pulled this very underhanded trick of trying to hijack reparations. So the political conundrum is that if we live in a country that's still 70% white, which is a number that shocks a lot of people, but if you include white Hispanics, it actually is that big, who often vote similarly to non-Hispanic whites. You know, what is the political cost, let's say, of saying we're going to throw your head in with a program like reparations? How much do you think those considerations should be made? Now that wasn't AOC, was it?

1:40:54 No, that's she's being asked a question about reparations. So I didn't set that clip up quite as well as I could. I got you. I got you. That was the sentence. She asked a question about reparations. Now, Adam, what would you think her answer would be? It's being so progressive. And, you know, we just use the magic money machine known as modern monetary theory, print up a trillion dollars and hand it to every ADOS we know. And that would be the way to do it. She says something kind of like that. Well, you know, it's a good question. I think that one of the things that we've seen from early polling actually is that

1:41:37 I think that we should distance ourselves and start getting away from this idea that we should only care about ourselves. Because when we really do start to assert and believe and understand and see how our destinies are tied, it doesn't, we kind of get away from this idea that only, you know, people of color care about other people of color and only white people care about other white people and so on. There are a lot of systems that we have to dismantle, but also it does get into this interesting area of where we are as a country about identity.

1:42:21 Because like, what does it mean to be black? Who is, you know, who is black and who isn't, especially as our country becomes more biracial and multiracial. Same thing with being Latino. Same thing. It brings up all these questions of like passing and you know, things like that. But I do think it is important that we have to have substantive conversations about race beyond like what is racist and what is not. And if someone says something racist, does that make them racist? Like we need to get away from talking, well, not that we have to get away from talking about racism. It's important that we talk about racism. But because we talk about racism so much, we actually aren't talking about race itself.

1:43:06 Wow. Word salad. So what she almost said there was, well, we need to have a podcast where people talk honestly about race. That's the only takeaway for the rest of what a bunch of bullcrap didn't answer the question. Doesn't she know? And she doesn't. And to say, what does it mean to be black? Yes. But she has mixing them. Yet she has no problem. But she has no problem to completely identify and separate by her tone and accent. Latinos. Right. You know, she breaks. She breaks out of her speech to, I guess, virtue signal.

1:43:51 Hey, I'm one of you. I found that offensive that she did that. One minute, 39 seconds of no answer. You know, it's a talent. It is, but I mean, it's, it's called pulling a pence, by the way. I don't think she does it quite as good. He just answered a whole other question. And you actually, yeah, I really like that restaurant. It's like, what? And then, but with Pensure, they're like, oh, I like that answer. And like, what? Right. Well, she's got room to grow, Moe. She's got room to grow.

1:44:30 But that's a very slam-dunk answer. How you feel about reparations? I think they deserve it. And, but this is, they always want to say, you know, the Republicans will never give you reparations. Well, the party that depends on 90% of our vote doesn't seem like they're too thrilled about giving it to us either because she had a very simple question that she can answer. She wants to print out X, it was saying tens of trillions of dollars for the Green New Deal. How about the New Black Deal? How about that? How about the old black deal? Oh, well, right. That's never been paid off. But, you know, and the thing, I kind of make a joke because if anything, I'm way against money printing.

1:45:13 And I, but, you know, having, and of course, I'd rather change as a human being than, you know, than and be called a hypocrite, perhaps. But the situation we're in with this money, and it's called modern monetary theory for anyone who's interested in looking it up. It is how we created these trillions of dollars for the stimulus. And even a lot of it is going right into stocks on the market. That's why you see the market going up. But the money is not actually

1:45:53 inflationary to the United States. It's this magic thing. It's an accounting trick, but it seems to work. And right now, all money is free. If you're a bank or if you're a country, you know, not if you're Adam and Mo, the interest rate is at low, zero. So you can, you can, there's all these ways, and a trillion dollars would actually be very easy. It only took three weeks. Right. And it was like, oh man, we need another two. All right, no problem. And it's going to be another five. Oh, they're going to definitely double dip. But no, I mean, this is what Japan has been doing.

1:46:35 The problem with Japan, it's called the Japanese debt trap. And so Japan is fantastic. It runs, you know, they just keep printing money. It's very prosperous. They're going to do the Olympics. They'll postpone the next year. It's fantastic. Great place. It has its drawbacks, of course, as every country does. But their problem is they're not, they're growing old. And the situation of finances in the world today, which will change and big changes on the horizon, no doubt. If we can all hunker down and make some damn babies, we're going to do very well for ourselves. But it would be super easy. And that maybe that's a part of this, we'd have stimulus, give you money if you make babies.

1:47:20 But reparations from a financial standpoint, I see no barrier at this moment in time. And that's not lost on other people that see it. It's like, oh, you can just print out $2 trillion in three weeks. No problem. We can do, and a trillion would be a good number. And you know what's really gross about it? Even Mary Ann Williamson, who was pro-reparations, couldn't bring herself to ask for a trillion dollars. Yeah, it had to be 500. No, 500 billion. And even ADOS didn't press her to say a trick. I mean, that would have been, if I'm in having that conversation, I'm like, look, you're going to need something.

1:48:01 You're going to need a number that really hits. Yeah. That means something. But let's continue on. I wasn't the only one that caught up with AOC trying to hijack the reparations. Well, she poorly answered, This is what she was asked about reparations, but now she tries to hijack it according to TD Hip Hop Media. Alexandria Casio-Cortez has made a very bold attempt to hijack the reparations conversation in order to include Brown in the conversation so that they can receive reparations for a tragedy that they did not go through. Now, this is what AOC had to say, according to the New York Post, that took these quotes off of her Twitter feed.

1:48:45 COVID deaths are disproportionately spiking in black and brown communities. Acasio-Cortez tweeted to her 6 million followers on Friday morning. Why? Because the chronic toll of redlining, environmental racism, wealth gap, etc., are underlying health conditions. The Bronx-born lawmaker added. Inequality is a comorbidity. And I quote: COVID relief should be drafted with a lens of reparations, she wrote. Oh, now you know what reparations is, huh? You see, when reparations is a talking point that only benefits the descendants of American slaves, she doesn't know what black is anymore.

1:49:25 She doesn't know what that means. But when she can find a way to crowbar her people into the mix so that they can receive reparations, now she's all for it. Slam dunk there. And this is who Diddy's associated with. So hold on, there was just something in there that was said I want to catch. Quote: COVID relief should be drafted with a lens added. Inequality is a comorbidity. That's what I want. I want to write that down. Inequality is a just for my book. It's a comorbidity. Yeah, you know, she's got great writers.

1:50:04 I'll give her that. I'll give her that. That's very, it's very true. Right. So that's not exactly the kind of, but, you know, I can see where if Diddy was putting together a coalition, you want some crazy people on both sides. But it sounded like he had a whole bunch of them. I heard he had Jayapal in there on the list. I'm not a fan of hers either. Another nut job. But it's just that he's, you're not aware what how AFC has been received in the black community. Which speaking, if you're going to say, and the reason why, one fact I left out was when he recorded this video with Naomi Campbell, he had a shirt on that says African.

1:50:47 Okay. Not Ados. Not Foundational Black, not Native Black, but African. Yeah, so then you get the Pan-African crowd. Right, because he didn't want to piss them off either because they buy records. So I'm feeling bad. I'm not feeling so good about it. I felt really excited in the beginning. Well, that's just my effect on you, Adam. So that's why I'm not sure. I'm paying attention. That's what I'm doing. I'm getting ready for Eminem to disappoint me. Well, he's already got political, but that's another show for another day. So I had to venture on over to Boulevard. Oh, aka the Roland Martin show.

1:51:30 Now that's just mean. What? Make me listen to Roland Martin. Well, we got to get the Boulet perspective on things. Now, is this his YouTube show? Yes. That's the only show he has. I know. He gets more play from our show than he does anywhere else. All right. All right. I'm ready for Roland Martin. All right. Let's get into it. We act as if the NAACP doesn't have 2,000 chapters made up of regular ordinary people. We act as if the National Herb Elite don't have branches. They do. We act as if our civil rights organizations really aren't talking to anybody,

1:52:13 but they are. And so part of this deal is, is we have this debate constantly. The black agenda, the black agenda, the black agenda, National Coalition of Black Civic Participation, Black Women's Roundtable. They got an agenda. They got an agenda. Sororities, fraternities, black BYP 100, Color of Change, they got an agenda. I mean, all these groups have agendas. You have people who are gay, who trans, church, conservative, who are sports, entertainment,

1:52:57 media. I know that every all of them have agendas. And luckily, Roland Martin doesn't. I want to know what that agenda is because I didn't get the memo. memo of the real, the real agenda, not the for your independent groups or how this fraternity or sorority is going to benefit from a political relationship. Talking about overall the group. How's the school? How's the school of fish going to benefit? And there is no answer. I heard a new name here: BYP 100. He mentioned that. I had to look that up.

1:53:39 Yeah, it's the Black Youth Project 100. Okay. He said color change too. I didn't hear that. Okay. The Black Youth Project. Its activities include community organizing, voter mobilization, and other social justice can't. Yeah, other social justice campaigns focused on black, feminist, and queer issues. Okay, gotcha. And it's amazing that Roland, and this is why Roland Black Youth Project also for feminists and queers. This is why Roland never makes it. You see, Karen Hunter, she adapted.

1:54:24 She sees the we've heard her how much of a homer she was for the Democratic Party. She'll still vote for Biden, but she'll butt slam him. Right. So, but she understands that the landscape is shifting and she's shifted her content appropriately to start having different conversations. Yes. This guy, Roland Martin, he's Boolay to the end. And he's going to stay. I mean, he, like I said, NAACP, we've talked about them, the origin of it. Now, I'm not saying that someone, grandma, that works in the local NAACP and

1:55:01 is up to nefarious things, but the organization itself was birthed out of questionable, if not destructive, terms for black people with how it was created by Joel Spingarn, if you want to look him up, which was a spy. So take that. So take that. Take that. And then we talked about the bullet, the fraternity, the sororities. We've addressed all these people that he listed. That's why I want him to list them out. But I want you to listen to this next clip because I took it as a veiled threat. Let's see how you hear it. You cannot make threats

1:55:47 unless you have an organized entity that stands behind you. If you make a threat and there's nobody behind you, they will laugh at you because they know there's no one behind you. To put it simply, you ever seen somebody walk up to somebody else talking all kind of smack because they think they boys are behind them. And then they say, Me and my

1:56:27 now everything changes because they now realize ain't no back. So, first of all, that's very now. Was this a threat towards Diddy? That's how I took it. Because that's how I heard it. And he's kind of, and I also heard it as a kind of a boast in a way. You know, a little flex going, you know, kind of like I got people behind me. Like, he's got the whole bullet squad. But it's, yeah, it sounded like a threat to me for sure. And by the way, I'm behind Diddy. I'm right here. Right. And the jury's still out. I'm not, I haven't made it. But we had to be careful of

1:57:08 letting somebody of that magnitude come in and hijack the narrative. Or whatever may happen. We don't know. We don't know. He could be hijacked. For whatever purpose. Now, he might have his own personal purposes or he might have real legitimate purposes, but that goes counter to the school of fish narrative that I are school of fish theory that I like to follow. Now we have to venture over since we're doing the rounds on the media to the breakfast club. First of all, I want to say what Diddy said in that video is what I've been on for the past year. That's why every presidential candidate that came to the breakfast club, I asked him, do they have a specific black agenda?

1:57:49 Because I made up my mind a long time ago that I was going to vote my interests and my interests are black people. You know what I'm saying? I'm not voting for individuals. And to me, the concept is simple. When you do business, when you do deals, you go into negotiating the terms of what you want. That's how we need to. start treating Democrats. If not, black people will be voting out of fear for the rest of their lives. And if you're being honest with yourself, conditions of black people have been the same in America for decades, regardless of who the president is. And we will not make any real systemic change in our communities until we change our approach to politics. I don't think it's too much to ask of a candidate like Joe Biden who owes his political life to black people to meet some demands for black people. Number one, you want to know what those demands are? And this is what Diddy messed up because he didn't say what he wanted.

1:58:37 So to be a hostage, to hold something hostage, you have to have something. You got to have the goods. Yeah. You got to have the goods. So Charlemagne's going to tell us what he would ask for. Now, Adam, what do you think Charlemagne will ask for? Charlemagne, who is very well versed in the venture world, he hangs out with bankers and Wall Street types of people. I think that Charlemagne the God, being true to his biblical nomenclature, will indeed evoke the magical monetary theory and have $1 trillion printed up for reparations.

1:59:19 Let's see what he asks for. Number one, I think a black woman running mate is a must. That should be non-negotiable, period. I'm glad you asked for the important stuff, Charlemagne. Joe Biden already said he would put a black woman on the Supreme Court. He committed to that. Great. We need that. And most importantly, Biden needs to adopt one of these black agendas and make it his own. I've been talking to y'all about Black Futures Lab Black Agenda, which urges elected officials in government to make black people powerful through policy in the economy, in our democracy, our families, our society, our communities, and the legal system. Joe Biden can take things from that. He can take things from Bloomberg's economic black agenda, like wanting to invest $70 million in low-income neighborhoods throughout the country, increase the number of black homeowners, and doubling the number of African-American small businesses if he's elected president.

2:00:06 He can adopt all of those things to him, and he should, because he's the vice president to the first black president. So weak. What a weak ask. Weak. That's all you want. This is who we have in the room. We need you to rehash some of the old candidates' ideas and give us a black female. Have you heard? Is it Curtis Blow? Hold on. It's not really suitable for air,

2:00:50 but I do want you to. What's the guy's name? It's called The First Black President. Was it Blowfly? Blowfly. Have you ever heard this song? Now, this is. I think you played it for the first show, maybe? I may have played it for you, but he goes through this list of what he is promising to the black voters. And again, it's not appropriate for air. I'll put it in the show notes. But it's very interesting how the idea of really asking for something for black Americans has been there. And this blowfly, this is 1981. So anyway, just a side note, just a side note.

2:01:32 But at least the awareness of, hey, we need to ask for some real stuff. And then Charlemagne, like, well, he's already asking for stuff that's already promised. Biden already said, I'll give you a black female VP. But why female? Because it's virtue signals, dumb shit. That's my point. Of course, you asked. Of course. Now, this is why these people have to call them out. Because now you're saying, oh, we need a black female vice president and a black female Supreme Court justice.

2:02:12 With a limp. Well, why can't one of them be a black man? No, no, no. Why can't both of them be a black man? And that's a huge mistake on Charlemagne's part for even saying that that way. Well, if you're carrying the water for the COVID that generates his power base. The COVID. I know you're serious. Oh, I know. I know. I know. It's all for that. Well, all seriousness. Yeah, I know. That's a weird ask. Not to say, okay, we need to have a black president, a black vice president, and a black Supreme Court. No, black woman. And I said this on maybe the second show. You asked me what,

2:02:57 why are they going after black women? And I say, ego. Yeah. This is an ego play. I mean, this is, and that's how low they, and I'll say this to black women. That's how low they think of you. They give you two tokens. No change, no better schools, no better nutrition, no, all the things we talked about in 35 episodes that could benefit black people, reparations, tax-free status, and none of this. We're going to give you two representatives. They're not going to really, they're going to do the will of the party, and you should be happy. Yeah. It's not a great deal

2:03:39 at all. Well, there's a little silver lining to this cloud because I think the people pushing the ideas that I subscribe to and a lot of other people that subscribe to that have made us go from rushing bots on the internet to you have one of the biggest music moguls in music history kind of sounding like it is starting to bleed over into politics that one being Mr. Vernon Jones hello America this is state representative Vernon Jones from the great state of Georgia you know the Democratic Party has demonstrated that they don't give a damn about black people yes I said it they don't give a damn about black people if you look over the past several years their number

2:04:28 one concern has been illegal immigrants what they've done is they've completely ignored and left behind the most loyal and dedicated block of voters the black vote now you know I know it too as a matter of fact if you don't believe me ask Diddy the rapper he just recently called out the Democratic Party and Joe Biden and he said no more free votes no more taking us for granted you have to earn our votes yes now I saw this of course this did hit all uh all colors of Twitter uh the only thing I'll say is uh our good brother here is Kappa

2:05:14 of course I mean I'm sorry I shouldn't have been I shouldn't have been surprised oh no no we're way off from not having Boulet but what I'm saying when you have Boulet even referring to Diddy yeah that's true now you have a person that people can identify with an idea the good part of that is as long as he doesn't start owning it right and reshaping it but if he wants to use his platform to push an idea that's very dangerous because you load that bad boy up in some hip-hop right

2:06:02 you start having people my kids age start thinking differently and i know i usually end the show on a joke but that was the last clip but i want to make people quite clear where i'm coming from on this this is either it's it's it's great in both ways one if the democrats feel they have to get one of their top people to start mimicking what the people are saying that shows real power yes if our ideas are actually reshaping the people's minds at the top that shows real power so either way we're we're in good shape

2:06:44 uh you can't eat the whole damn school no excuse me i'm also i'm curious and we've got to pay close attention to diddy see what his next moves are no i'm i oh he's definitely he's definitely on my radar yeah and i will say this can i get a little theorem please theremin yes oh i'd have to roll that out very quick it was in the box uh here you go theremin oh yes i'll leave everyone on this note right here for all the ankle bracelets i'm sorry to say what could this be a cover cover up for all the ankle bracelets and i'll get i'll go into that on another show but there's some weird stuff going on in hollyweird okay

2:07:35 oh we're gonna have to leave you with that mo you're leaving me hanging cliffhanger i like it though and as i always say pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself and that's right and we will reveal ourselves on the next episode remember to support the show uh go to mofacts.com you can You can go directly to the page at M-O-E-F-U-N-D-M-E.com. Talk to you next week, Mo. All right, you better have a right, everybody. Take care. Thanks again. Bye-bye. What does it take to win your love for me?

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