32: Nocebo

00:02 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for April 6, 2020. This is episode number 32. I gave you fair warning. Beware. And we're still in our 2020 pandemic lockdown mode. Mo, how's the bunker over where you are? Everything's well, Adam. Yeah, kids are good. They're not driving you crazy, driving your wife crazy. Everyone's okay. Everyone's calm, cool, collected. No, they're definitely driving us crazy, but I mean, not as much as I expected considering being stuck in the house with them 24/7. And how have they been on the cell phones? Do they use them more than they usually did?

00:46 Or, I mean, have you noticed any behavioral changes? Yeah, we actually have to shut them down. Oh, you are? Okay, so they're a little obsessive, and you are indeed limiting their time. Yeah, and they throw fits. And yeah. So now, the reason why we didn't do the show on Saturday is you had a problem with your ISP and your router and all kinds of stuff was messed up. Did you find out finally what it was? Was it a fiber cut as I had read somewhere online? I'm not sure. When I changed the router, it fixed my problem, but I don't know if that's coincidental with some other change that may have happened. So I just know we're back up and running. That's the main thing. But more importantly, what was that like?

01:28 You were at least a whole evening without Netflix. Right. So it's called DVDs. I don't know if you remember him or not. Oh, wow. Did you go to Redbox? Is that what you did? Pick up a couple DVDs. Well, we got a whole box full here that we had to dig out. Okay. All right. Well, I'm glad that everything's up and running, and I'm very excited to get the show on the road. Is it time to spin the wheel? Yes, please. All right, here we go. It's the wheel of topics. Let's see what's going on in today's Movax with Adam Curry as we see the wheel coming down to a grinding halt.

02:07 It looks like the show topic for episode number 32 is going to be. There is nothing as powerful as a changed man. All right. That was a very powerful voice that said that. Yes, that's the Reverend TD Jakes. But the reason why, or what angle I'm going to take on this show is exactly what we talked about. And I hate to go back into this Corona thing because I've been trying to avoid it like the plague. It's not possible. It's not possible, Moe. It's a part of life. We just got to, we got to deal with it.

02:47 I think you are exactly right. It's almost impossible unless you just watch only premium channels and streaming services and don't get on social media. But you can't watch regular television. Even the commercials are coronavirus inspired. Yeah, and the commercials that are new are all in the corona inspired. Oh, absolutely. Right. So I'm starting to think what negative effect is the media coverage having on this. And so, and how is it shaping people's minds? Ooh. As I always like to do,

03:28 it's always some kind of carryover from the last show to the next show. And I mean, it's just how my brain works. And how we ended last show was how the media kind of created these people who acted out violently that I think that was charged up by media coverage of the shooter, the shootings that we had in the country around 2015, 16. Yes, exactly. So if that can happen from that kind of coverage, and it was nowhere near the size of this,

04:05 and it's a helicopter flying on my house right now. That's how it starts, Mo. You do a podcast, you get a little popularity, then the black helicopters come out. They're just circle for a bit. The chemtrails are next. The irony of that. I mean, that's crazy. But yeah. So I was just wondering about what would the effect be and what is the effect going to be on people's psyche of the commercials or just media in general during this time? Just the media in general. Okay, for instance. So if I said to you five years ago, martial law. Yeah.

04:50 People would have, not you, but most people would have rolled their eyes and like, oh, conspiracy theory. In fact, correct. Five, no, I'd say more like seven or eight years ago, there was lots of conspiracy theories, very similar to the ones you hear now. Martial law, it's going to be a lockdown. You know, the president's going to use at the time, I think Obama had just gotten the message system where you could message every single American on their cell phone. So, you know, like, he's going to use that. He's going to control us. It's going to be martial law. And of course, everyone looked at you like, what are you crazy?

05:33 But fast forward, we have Gavin. If you want to establish a framework of martial law, which is ultimate authority and enforcement, we have the capacity to do that. But we are not at this moment feeling that is a necessity. Gavin Newsome, governor of California. You know, hearing that clip for the second time, I'm just wondering if martial law, if that can actually be done by an individual state or if that has to be a federal thing by definition. Oh, they'll definitely lean into state rights. I mean, what am I even thinking? Of course.

06:15 Of course. If Gavin wants to do it, he'll be able to do it. You're right. You're right. Or if I told you there were billionaires answering questions and talking about digital receipts to prove that you've been vaccinated. Yes. You would have called me a conspiracy theorist, but we've seen Bill Cake. You should listen to one of my earlier shows, Mo. This is, to me, this is just like, oh, what? We're playing, we're hitting the rewind button. Been there, done it, love it. Right. So I'm just saying that how fast we're moving. And I've said that on not the last show we did, but the other show we did on this topic.

06:54 This is the new 9-11. It's going to shape everything. You know, if you have said pre-9-11, we're going to tap your phones and you won't have any privacy, people would have pushed back against that. But afterwards, it's like, okay, it's forgiven. So, I mean, I just wanted to open the show up where we're headed. Very good. And I'll just add as a caveat, the event, of course, it's nothing like a 9-11, but it's really about the aftermath. It's like, okay, so we have a big event. What little steps initially are going to be taken? What things will happen? What is the weapons of mass destruction of this event? Which, of course, we know turned out to be completely bogus, but it sent us into the Middle East and it, you know, did a lot of things.

07:38 So what are we going to see from this event? I think you just have to say, it's us. It's the shot. Yeah, exactly. We are the WMDs. That's the scary part about it is like they've weaponized humanity. You're so right. You know, we just got our face mask in because you can't go outside in Austin anymore without one. People give you the stink eye, even though it's optional. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. People giving you the stink eye. And I think that's going to be everywhere. So everyone will just have to cover their, it doesn't have to be an N95 mask, but even if you have a bandana or something. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Stink eye if you're not wearing it. So that's a part. That's that's weaponizing us in a way.

08:22 Yes. So I just want to, I guess we clip heavy, so I want to go ahead and dive right in. And we have Dr. I mean, excuse me, Robert Pyatt, Robert Pyatt, PhD. There is this push in the media to be the first to get out whatever the latest breaking information, especially around the coronavirus epidemic, is. You know, they can stake their claim on that, which at times means the information they're getting out isn't necessarily vetted. It's not been confirmed, and science is based on the confirmation of our results. It's not been confirmed scientifically. It's not been confirmed by another expert. So at times we have some questionable information that's getting out there.

09:05 The other side of that is you have a public that's receiving that that is dealing with a large volume of information, a large volume of very complicated medical information. And as anybody who's been to their doctor knows, medical information inherently is filled with jargon and complex ideas. So you do have a clash going on right now where we're not giving ourselves the time or in some cases the effective methodology to do the best job at communicating, but we're pushing more and more of this content on a public that's not prepared to handle it.

09:44 Interesting. Now, he's a professional professor. Yes, he's a professor at Keene University, assistant professor of molecular. geneticists. Yeah, so he's not like a behavioral scientist, but okay. No, so I just found it interesting that how he said about how information is just pushed out there, and every media is trying to be the one that breaks the news or has the latest information. Yes. And it's not really being vetted. Well, not at all.

10:26 In fact, there's not even questions being asked. In particular, what is the underlying data? I mean, I keep hearing about this new model and that model, and now we're using those guys' analysis. It's very, it's, it's far from transparent. And it's really the wild, wild west. I mean, everybody's just got their own. I mean, they have one narrative that is terrible. It's like the worst thing that ever happened. That's the narrative, but it's the scary tactics. They all are coming at different angles. And it's just, I find it very disturbing. And I'm having this show as a counter to that.

11:10 I think independent media, such as podcasting, has always run counter to the mainstream. And I think this is a great opportunity for us, and I want to say us to run counter to balance the mainstream media to be the counterbalance to it, where everything's not doom and gloom and over. I don't hear anything positive, nothing positive. It's all just doom and gloom. Right. And yes, that is the mainstream model.

11:46 It's built on doom and gloom and fear. And once in a while, at the end of the newscast, you'll literally hear the newscaster say, and now on a lighter note, we saved a kitten from a tree. And everyone feels good. Yeah. So that's what we're doing. It's a positive corona. Yeah. Exactly. Well, you and I have talked about this before. It's a lot of, we're so primed for this. All the movies, the horror movies, the big pandemics, the date, contagion outbreak. I mean, all of them. We're ready for this. And in fact, many of the scientists you're seeing speaking today in the public arena consulted on some of these films.

12:29 And so they're using the same terms. Like social distancing actually pops up, I think, in contagion and all of these terms. So yeah, it's baked in. We were primed. And boy, did we run for the hills when we were told to. And I think it's maybe, maybe even more sinister than that. And that's where I'm headed with this show. All right. All right. Buckle up. Let's get to part two of Mr. Robert Pyatt. You're seeing some of that risk play out today, the risk of the public not understanding.

13:06 And that's through a lot of the clickbaits, false information that we see that's permeating the internet and a lot of our social media. It erodes our trust in our experts. It erodes the trust in the process itself. There are people whose entire job is to set up and post exciting, inflammatory articles to drive clicks to a website. They don't care about content. They don't care about science. They don't care about trying to better a person's life through education. We need scientists who can communicate effectively to get out into the public to talk about it.

13:44 So again, it comes back to our understanding of the scientific process of what that evidence means and what that means for our society. Where was this guy when we were all going to die in 10 years from climate change, according to the models? Where was he then? I didn't see him walking around saying anything then, but I'll just kick back and relax. Well, he works at a university, so you got to pick your battle. This is true. If you want to keep engaging, yeah, you stepping on some, you're stepping on the wrong toes if you're trying to work at a university, which is majorly funded by climate change. But there is positive news, or at least not

14:27 a silver lining, maybe, but it doesn't get any airtime. And an example of that is Miss Dr. Burks. My favorite. Of course, the shall lady. Yes. So Dr. Burks, she is the COVID-19 response coordinator for the White House. Yes, yes, yes. yes. She came out and spoke about what you like to speak a lot about and the models. I'm sure many of you saw the recent report out of the UK about them adjusting completely their needs.

15:07 This is really quite important. If you remember, that was the report that said there would be 500,000 deaths in the UK and 2.2 million deaths in the United States. They've adjusted that number in the UK to 20,000. So half a million to 20,000. We're looking into this in great detail to understand that adjustment. I'm going to say something that's a little bit complicated, but I'm going to try to do it in a way that we can all understand it together. In the model, either, you have to have a large group of people who are asymptomatic, who have never presented for any test in order to have the kind of numbers that were predicted.

15:50 To get to 60 million people infected or of 6 million people infected, you have to have a large group of asymptomatics because in no country to date have we seen an attack rate over 1 in a thousand. Yeah, this is the first time that the models changed. And you're right. This barely got any airtime. They've actually chosen yet another model, which was announced on Sunday. But not even who it was from. Was it Washington, State University? Was it the Chris Murray model? I mean, it's just, it seems like, oh, well, the numbers are much lower.

16:29 Okay, let's ratchet down our model a little bit, which I think just shows these models are way overblown, but we're certainly responding to it as if millions of people are still going to die. And just put in perspective for people: if you had $500,000 in your bank account when you went to bed, you woke up and there's only 20,000 in there the next day. You'd notice. You would notice, yeah. But in this case, that's great news. Yeah, you know, that is literally great news, but it was buried. Why? That's my question. Why? Well, I think that

17:17 I believe that there's a number of a lot. There's a lot of agendas in the room, Mo. The media has an agenda, which is to do a gotcha to trip Trump up and make him look stupid, which is sad, is sad. I mean, I'm very sad about that. There's some good questions. I watch all these briefings. There's an agenda by the pharmaceutical industry. This is the Bill Gates saying everyone has to get vaccinated. He's not shy about saying it. He's not shy. In fact, Gates is now everywhere. And the guy who really haven't looked at too much for the past, I don't know, five or six years, now he's becoming very interesting to look at again because somehow he knows better than everybody else.

18:02 So he has an agenda. Wall Street has an agenda. The oil problem that's going on right now between Saudi Arabia and Russia, which will involve the United States, it's all different. Everyone's jumping on. As we know, you never let a good crisis go to waste. Well, Wall Street is funny in this situation because bad news is not really good for them. So they're really business news is some of the most, and I'm going to, I'm going to regret saying this, some of the most honest news you can watch right now. It's better to watch CNBC than anything else. You'll actually learn something. Right, because their

18:43 money is riding on how this thing turns out. So they don't want to be huge use fear tactics because that's net affects the opposite. Market negative. Yeah, well, they're all with CNBC. It's no matter what, it's a buying opportunity. The market's down 3,000 points. Buying opportunity. Hey, we're up. Do you think this is a buying opportunity? I mean, so they have their own. And they have their own agenda too. And yeah, you can make a lot of money in a down market if you're shorting it. There's a lot of ways to make money to be made. But I think, yeah, you're right. It's more honest news in general.

19:22 So this next clip is going to do a little foreshadowing to where we're headed with the show and overall. And this is, is technology controlling your mind? I can tell you as a mental health professional, someone who has been helping people get out of cults and mind control and brainwashing situations for 40 years, constantly, people. are confused. What is a cult? What is mind control? What is brainwashing? Oh, my boss brainwashes me. Oh, advertising brainwashes me. The government brainwashes me, etc. But what I'm here to say is actually, I want to present a model for you to think about a spectrum from healthy to unhealthy.

20:09 influence. Healthy influence, there's informed consent. You know what you're getting involved with. You know about the person. There's choice. On the destructive side, there's deception. There's manipulation. On the healthy side, it respects your free will. It respects your conscience, where the unhealthy side is using guilt manipulation, fear manipulation, and wanting you to become tranced out, obedient slaves.

20:48 And we have on this continuum some themes. Again, this is not a binary of all or nothing. This is a spectrum. And my call to action is your minds are precious and only you should control your mind. Yeah, well, you better put that iPhone down then. So I want people to use this clip to judge when they watch the media. Are they giving me a choice or are they trying to scare the crap out of me? And you'll find yourself on that negative end of the spectrum when you watch the majority of the news.

21:29 Right. In fairness, this is from, I think, CNBC. It's funny that you said that, this next clip. And this is asking, is there too much fear over the coronavirus? Tim Kane is the J.P. Conti Fellow at the Hoover Institution at Stanford University, and he is a behavioral economist. Sir, welcome. Great to have you here, Tim. Is there too much panic? Too much panic right now? Yeah, there's way too much panic. I've thought a lot about Costco and that panic buying. In fact, I made my wife go with me because I wanted to see it as an economist. And, you know, Costco is going to keep restocking their shelves.

22:12 So I actually think in a week, some of the panic buying is going to die down as long as the government lets the market system work. You're a behavioral economist. What is the behavior you're seeing, either anecdotally or on video or in person? What is it telling you about human behavior and how we act and how we spend? Well, supply and demand shift. That's the ultimate behavior that we're seeing. In fact, there's a paradox that goes back. They call it the diamond water paradox, Tyler. What's more valuable, a bucket full of diamonds or a bucket full of water? If you're in the middle of the desert, you know, the water is a lot more valuable. People right now, what they value most is not water or diamonds.

22:53 It's a sense of assurance and that things are going to be okay. I think they're going to realize pretty quickly, one, the disease, this coronavirus, it's just not that fatal. In fact, when you compare values over time, the value of life, for example, women in the year 1910, one in 100 pregnant women died the day of giving birth. This disease is about that fatal. Look, we survived that. We're going to survive this just fine. Yeah. I'm a little confused about these statements because, of course, I follow this very closely and I'm in agreement with the numbers.

23:29 That's my problem is the numbers don't add up to any of the hysteria. But there are some individual anecdotal examples of the sickness people are getting. And that it worries me, although the explanation I have for currently is there's really two strains of this thing. And some of these severe cases like New York, Wuhan, Northern Italy, that's a different strain from what the rest is getting. But I really don't know because I don't have the information. So from the numbers itself, yeah, it's blown way out of proportion. But there's too many unknowns. And that's a really good factor to have if you want to frighten people.

24:14 Well, I have another scenario that I would like to introduce later on as we make our way down the clip list that nobody has discussed. But just to show you the power of misinformation, this next clip is people believe coronavirus is linked to dot dot dot. I know I know what's coming tonight's Factor of Fiction is brought to you by America's finest carpet in tonight's Factor Fiction. We are looking into some confusion people are having about the coronavirus. A story going around today claims that many people think the illness sweeping the globe is connected to Corona the beer.

24:58 It's true. Google searches have spiked since January the 18th for the terms beer coronavirus, which you see in yellow there, beer virus, which you see in blue, and corona beer virus, which you see in red. So far, Corona Beer's parent company has yet to comment about this. According to the CDC, the coronavirus gets its name from the crown-like spikes it shows under a microscope. Corona in Latin is Latin for crown, or something like that. Like this, I don't know Latin. Something like that. People are doing research, Mo. You know, they got questions like, oh, I heard something about Corona. I got to Corona beer. I don't know. This

25:42 we need to use this as a data point of how misinformed. How do you, a beer? And so it's so much so that they actually have stopped producing Corona, the beer. Is that so? I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah. Well, they said it was because it was a non-essential, but every other beer company is pumping out of beer as fast as they can. Now it's not going moving off the shelves, is what it is. I mean, that's just my perspective on that. But just imagine people mentally are trying to link a beer with

26:22 the virus. You can't ignore that data point of the misinformation or I would say probably underinformed. People read headlines. Yeah. Well, it's word association. Yeah, it's word association, but it's if you can get people to think that, or if they make that leap on their own, if you roll out the people in the white coats, take it and tell them like I like I heard today. I forgot what his name is, but today, this week is our Pearl Harbor.

27:03 Yeah, I've heard that. Have you heard this meme? Yeah. That's the meme that they're pushing today. And I'm like, what? I mean, because, yeah. So, well, they are really manipulating people. And it's sick. And I'm really pissed off about it. I can tell. I mean, I've been doing this a while, so I have somewhat, I've built up some immunity, but yeah, it's totally sick. You're right, actually launching the Pearl Harbor meme in context of racial discrimination is a pretty sick thing to do. Yeah, so, but luckily, luckily, I was able to dig up something that may be a help to us, and that is how to stop the spread of misinformation.

27:47 America is facing a growing epidemic unlike we've ever seen. It's causing widespread panic, roiling the stock market, and infecting our loved ones at an alarming rate. This pandemic is Donald Trump saying stupid things about coronavirus. The virus. They're working hard. Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away. Oh, that's true. We have it totally under control. It's one person coming in from China. Containing this will be a daunting task. Here's how Trump saying stupid things about coronavirus spreads. The airborne particles travel through the air and enter your body of sound waves, overwhelming your brain. Sadly, the group most vulnerable to Donald Trump saying stupid things about coronavirus is the elderly.

28:32 But don't panic. There are simple steps to protect yourself and avoid infection. First, distract yourself by washing your hands. Buy surgical masks and place them over your ears. Avoid large gatherings of angry white people. And most importantly, do not touch your Facebook. Follow these simple steps, and you too can keep America safe from Donald Trump saying stupid things about coronavirus. I'm not going to lie, a lot of people are going to get infected. Where is that from? That was cute. Where is that from? I think that was from Conan. That was nice.

29:07 It was cute. Yeah, and I played that to lighten the mood because if I come here and present the propaganda and don't diffuse it, then I'm part of the problem. So, I mean, that's kind of how we should look at this thing: have a laugh. Eat, drink, be merry. That's why I live by. Enjoy. I think we should look at this glass half full. Yeah, you're stuck in your house, but I'm stuck. stuck in the house with my kids. I mean, what other time could I spend this amount of time? No, no, you had a glass that was half full. The kids drank it. That's the problem. Yes, they did. And they backwashed. Like he was.

29:50 Nasty. Backwashing kids. All right. So, as I always like to do, I always like to put historical context to most of the topics I cover. And in these next eclipses, the first two are somewhat long, so please forgive me and bear with me. We're going to go down. You like this, right, Adam? Yeah, I love them. Yeah, so we're going to go down the top five bizarre cases of mass hysteria. Mass hysteria refers to collective delusions or threats to society that spread rapidly through rumors and fear. Now that you know the definition of it, the video will be easier to understand. Welcome to five bizarre cases of mass hysteria.

30:33 Number five, Tanganyika laughter epidemic. This outbreak happened in 1962 in a small village near the border of Uganda and Africa. It began on January 30th. Three schoolgirls began to laugh uncontrollably. This began to start rapidly spreading throughout the school. It ended up affecting 95 out of the 159 pupils. They were aged 12 to 18. Most symptoms lasted for a few hours, but in some students, it lasted for up to 16 days. Could you just imagine laughing non-stop for 16 days? The teachers were not affected by the epidemic. As they were unsure to what was causing it, they were forced to close the school in March of 1962.

31:14 Once the school closed, the laughter spread throughout the village and ended up making its way to another village close by. Within April and May, 217 people had laughing attacks in the village. Most of them are school children and young adults. The school reopened on May 21st, but closed again in June as people were still suffering from the laughter. During June, the laughter spread once again. This time it was to another school. It affected 48 girls. The epidemic lasted 6 to 18 months, then it died off. In total, 14 schools were shut down and a thousand people were affected. An investigation was set out, but no possible cause was found for the laughter relating to conditions in the area, such as air pollution and gas.

31:59 It was ruled out as a case of mass hysteria. That's a very I had not heard that. But laughter. But, but. I was actually looking it up. There was a couple of months, years ago when the first Gardasil HPV shots were being deployed. And there was a big push against it, and there was some weird stuff happening. You might remember the video of a cheerleader who could only walk backwards after the shot and some weird stuff. And there was this group of high school girls in upstate New York, and they all developed this syndrome of hysterical laughing for days on end and just going into hysterics and they couldn't stop.

32:48 And the weird case about this is it jumped from one village to the other to the next village. Now, laughter is not a disease, but somehow in the human condition with hysteria, if you mentally start thinking something or fearing something, it can actually. Yeah, it can happen. And in these next, the top five, we're going to hear of other cases. Let's go to number four. Number four, 1983 West Bank fainting epidemic. This occurred in late March and early April of 1983 in a Palestinian town called Arabah.

33:28 It first started in a school. A female student ran to a window. She was coughing and complained of breathing difficulties. Within hours, six other students complained of the same symptoms. Panic soon spread throughout the school and many other students began to complain of the symptoms. Some students also vomited and complained they had blurred vision and many students fainted. Students were taken to hospitals close to the school. The female Israeli soldiers who escorted the girls also complained of the symptoms. Within the school, 32 girls were affected. Over the next two weeks, the epidemic spread to other schools in closeby towns.

34:06 In total, 943 people were hospitalized. The Israeli military closed schools that were affected for 20 days. Later on, during late March and early April, a second wave of the epidemic started. 367 people fell ill due to the Palestine and Israel conflict. It was believed that the symptoms were caused by a chemical warfare attack and many people were arrested. But after many tests, no traces of chemicals were found. On March 28th, 1983, a newspaper claimed that an Israeli military investigator had found traces of nerve gas within the area.

34:44 The newspaper also said they suspected Palestinian militants were poisoning their own people in order to blame Israel to provoke an attack. Although, this was never really backed with any hard evidence. In the end, the epidemic was said to be a case of mass hysteria caused by stress. Ooh, I do like where you're going, Mr. Mo. I do like this. Hold on a second. Let me make sure I got my goggles on so I don't jump the gun. There is something, I think it's called sympathetic. It's like if someone vomits on an airplane, then other people have sympathetic vomiting, literally.

35:27 So this, and that is one of the best examples of mass hysteria. Okay, I'm in. I'm engaged. We go to number three. But the weird thing is, before we do two things: one, notice how governments weaponize this hysteria on both sides. You had the Palestinians, and then you had the Israelis. Israelis. Yeah. Bob saying, oh, it's the other guy. Well, of course. Think about that. And this example of we have that, right? It's them. It's no, it's China. It's America. Yeah. No, I'm with you.

36:08 And number two is: if the sympathetic thing that you brought up is a valid point: if you see somebody vomit, then you vomit. That's one thing. But this thing is jumping villages. How does that happen? I don't have an answer, but I do have an answer, but not yet. But let's get into number three. You tease. You tease. Number three, Louisiana twitching epidemic of 1939. This happened during the spring in a school in Louisiana. The female students there began to randomly twitch uncontrollably and were unable to stop. It all started when one female student's leg began to start twitching uncontrollably while at a school dance.

36:51 After the next few weeks, her leg would continue to twitch at random times during the day. The twitch once forced her to stop playing basketball as she was unable to stand. News soon spread about her twitching and other students began to twitch. One student's chest and neck would twitch throughout the day. Students began to have twitching attacks and the parents started to get worried. They believed it may have been some type of disease that was causing the twitching. A few weeks later, the twitching stopped. Investigators studied the case and concluded that the girls were attention seeking and ruled it as a case of mass hysteria. You know what's going to happen? I'm going to get mass hysteria and start talking like this guy who's doing the voiceover.

37:37 It was really crazy. They got mass hysteria. And then I'm going to catch it. But yeah, we got laughter, twitching, feigning. Yeah. And this is not, we're not talking about viral things. These are just. No, it's transmitted through brainwaves or something or whatever. Who knows? But let's go ahead and just wrap up and see who comes into the number one slot. Number two, Mumbai Sweetwater Incident. This incident occurred in 2006. It was a strange phenomenon in which residents of Mumbai, India, claimed that the sea water of Mahim Creek had suddenly turned sweet. Within hours, residents of a nearby beach also claimed the water had turned sweet.

38:19 This caused mass hysteria among people and they started coming in large numbers to drink the sea water. The water is heavily polluted with sewage. This caused a fear within local authorities as they thought there may have been a severe outbreak of a waterborne disease. So yeah, they were drinking sewage water and believed it tasted sweet. The pollution control board warned people not to drink the water, but despite this, many people went to collect it in bottles. The phenomenon only lasted 18 hours. After this, people said it tasted salty again. It's unsure whether it actually tasted sweet or people were just deluded. There have been many theories to what caused it to taste sweet.

39:00 They have ranged from rainfall to currents of the sea, but in the end, it was ruled as a case of mass hysteria. Interesting. So the actual taste buds registered something different in their brain. As sweet. And we're talking about sewage water here. And just as an interesting side note, that one of the apparent. symptoms of onset of coronavirus is losing your sense of taste and smell. And that cropped up late, right? That was not in the beginning. No, no. Not that I can trace back, at least. And there's a couple other symptoms that cropped up late.

39:45 I'm not specific of which ones, but I don't think it was the. I'm not going to speak to that. But yeah, losing that taste, but I don't remember that being one of the original symptoms. So just think though, they're drinking sewage water and thinking it's great. They're thinking it's sweet. Well, so much so that they're balling up and taking it home. Isn't that what beer manufacturers learned eventually? It's just here's this crap we're going to serve you and you're going to love it. And we start to love it. When you're a kid, did you like beer? No. You're like, that's nasty. Did you like smoking? No, it's nasty. Now, you've never smoked. Did you ever smoke? No, I never smoked a cigarette in my life. No, okay.

40:32 Nuff said. Yeah, so I said that was number one, but that was number two. So let's wrap up with the final, the winner of the mass hysteria contest. Here we go, ladies and gentlemen. Number one. Dancing plague of 1518. This was a case of dancing mania that took place in Strasbourg, France in July 1518. Around 400 people danced for days without rest. The epidemic lasted for about a month and some people died of heart attacks, strokes, and exhaustion from the non-stop dancing. The outbreak began in July 1518. A woman by the name of Mrs.

41:14 Trophia began to start dancing in the street in Strasbourg. This lasted somewhere between four to six days. Within a week, 34 others had joined her, and within a month, there were around 400 dancers. Most of them eventually died from exhaustion. Historical documents found in Strasbourg mention the dancing, but it's still unsure to why they danced. There have been possible theories to what caused it. One possible explanation is a spider bite. When bitten by a wolf spider, the symptoms of dancing mania occur. Although, it's very unlikely that it was a spider bite, as it affected a large amount of people. It was ruled as mass hysteria. Dance mania.

42:00 Falling dead from dancing. We should have okay. I mean, now these are nothing on the scale of the mania you're insinuating, I believe, but I like the theory. I'm rolling with you. Well, there's one thing that we have that they don't have, and that's mass communication. That's correct. So just let that sink in. So you have to ask yourself: dancing, laughing, feigning, drinking sewage water, and thinking it's sweet. And what was the other one? A twitch? None of these are

42:36 diseases. I mean, there's no pathogen that you can catch. Like an emulation of behavior, an emulation of symptoms without an underlying disease. Have you been taking advantage of the Rona holiday and studying up on your medical journals, Mo? Is that what you've been doing? No, I have not. When I get an itch, it just takes me. I follow where it takes me. I like it. And one of my favorite destinations is mind control. Yes. Yep. So we had to figure out how real mind control works.

43:16 It's interesting to look at cult from an academic perspective because they are one of the few real instances where real mind control is really used in real life. Nobody wakes up and says, hey, I'm going to go join a cult. That's Mia Donovan, and she's an expert on cults and she made a movie about them. Available on Netflix. Nobody in a cult will say they're an occult. Similarly, nobody in Minnesota will admit they actually live in Canada, but that doesn't make it not true. So what is a cult? Well, most of these groups have a front as a Bible study or political or some other sort of group, but what makes a cult a cult is often that overwhelming influence the leader has over their followers. One could call it brainwashing. Yes.

44:00 So in this situation, we've had the leader step forward for the brainwashing. Mr. Bill Gates. Yes. Yeah. He's one of the many. I think there's a couple others involved in it, but Gates is the authority. He's the one that we're all looking to because he must have the answers. because he's rich. And he predicted it. I mean, if you let the adherence to his cult, let them talk and listen to them. He called this years off. So he's not a hard, not a hard call. A lot of people have done this, but he's rich. So, yeah, okay. You got you. It's like saying one day it's going to rain.

44:45 Yeah. And then when it rains, I told you. That's right. And I'm rich. So believe me now. Right. So, and just as another parallel with the comic control, the same thing. They had to create their cult leader. Greta. Is that civil rights movement? Yeah. Yeah. And they'll catch up. Okay. Yeah, exactly. You had to have this. You got to have this figure that everybody adheres to. And like, oh, yeah, they're the great messiah. We see this all the time with these different cults that pop up, but it's funny that people condemn them.

45:28 But when they participate in cultish behavior, it's totally acceptable if it's the majority that participates in it. That's how a good cult works, of course. Yeah. So let's just get into how my control works too. Now, the actual process of brainwashing is somewhat disappointingly abstract and inconcrete. There's no three-step guide to brainwashing your cult followers. The process is more of an art than a science. So here's your scientific three-step guide to brainwashing your cult followers. The first stage is break people down. You know, get them broken. So that's Rick Ross, no relation, and he's also an expert on cults.

46:08 He calls this process coercive persuasion since he's an academic and doesn't have to worry about clickbaiting YouTube viewers. Say you get invited to a talk or a dinner by a group of people that you've never met before, and suddenly you're like the center of attention. And everybody's showering you with affection and praise and interest. And this is something that a lot of cults will do because that's a very irresistible thing to be at the center of somebody's attention. Making people feel special is an overwhelmingly great feeling that traps them in. Overall, in this stage, you need to, as Rick says, talk about everything negative in the world, negative in their life, put a lot of pressure on them to crack and break.

46:53 And then, second, change them. You know, once they're in that broken state, introduce your ideas. Okay. Is this sounding familiar? Well, in many different ways, yes, of course, of course. Stay at home. The world's coming to an end. Don't go outside. So you isolate the potential. Social distance. Uh-huh. But then you come back and say, oh, we're alone together. Or, you know, what's that term they're using? Home. It's stay home and alone together. Yes. Is it alone together? So now you're part of us. Alone together. Now you're part of, you're just like the Hollywood stars.

47:37 You know, come on in. They had these on Instagram, these DJs that are throwing parties. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Playing the music. So now we're all in this together. That's right. Yes, my pretty. Yes. Yeah. So you broke them down. For about two weeks now, they just don't go outside. You're going to die. Don't go outside. You're going to die. But now, let's just party at home. We're all together. And I heard today that they're going to have some kind of big telethon or something like that. Yes, this is going to be the. This is the this you want some mind control. This will be the uh hold on a second.

48:15 Let me let me I don't want to misquote it. This is the Lady Gaga deal, and it's the Global Citizen Group. You know, who do that who do that thing in Central Park, the Global Global Citizen Festival? Yes. So now they're the global coronavirus citizen. And it's going to be called One World. It's Global Citizen and the World Health Organization announced the One World concert, a Lady Gaga curated concert special. Oh, here it is. One World Together at Home.

48:55 Nice. You broke them down. And with Lady Gaga. The Lady Gaga is perfect for one of the cult lieutenants. You'd be very good at leading the meek. And I'm going to tell people: watch for this hand sign. It's kind of like the. know, like when you a camera director is the Illuminati triangle. Yeah, but no, but it's different because it's the thumb to the pointer and thumb to the pointer. Oh, is that? If you look at the look at the advertisements, it has the home inside of that hand signal.

49:36 It's going to be the new heart. You know, the heart symbol they did with the hand? Yeah. Watch it. I'm calling it now. That's getting the new. Are you kidding me, Mo? Hold on a second. God despise you. What have you done to me? Hold on. You're right. With the little red dot, the little red dot in between. That's the house. That's your home. That's going to be, you know, the heart symbol cropped up with the thumb and the heart. Yeah, that's going to be the new wash. Oh, my God. I'm calling it. And I hadn't even seen it. I hadn't even seen it. Yeah, so that'll be the new Illuminati hand sign. We'll be basically making a rectangular box with your thumb and forefinger of each hand.

50:20 Yes. All hail. Come on in. All hail. Come on in, baby. Come on in. We broke you down. We got you right where we want you alone. It's okay. You're safe here. You're safe here. And I'll say this. I'm immune to this because I actually have a family. So I can't empathize with the person that's isolated alone. I could imagine this is hell. Yes. If you don't have a significant other or family, which a lot, and if you think about it in the grand scheme of things, the way this thing has been set up, they've isolated people away from their families

51:01 into these boxes. And now you bring in isolation. And then you bring in, oh, well, we're all together in this, you know? I'll just stay in your house and look into your portal. It'll be interesting to see how many people. I mean, it's going to be blanketed, right? They're doing it live on CBS NBC. There's like 17 channels, I think, all at the same time. Globally coordinated. Oh, yeah. No, this is obviously the next step in the plan. And there is a plan, I think. I mean, this is my hypothesis. Let's get Mind Control 3. As a cult leader, you'll probably have some sort of mission for your followers, whether it be political, religious, or something else.

51:41 The second stage is where you fix it in your followers' minds. And people won't necessarily accept what you say immediately because if you're a cult leader, you're probably saying something controversial, something novel, something anti-conformist along the lines of doomsday is coming, or let's kidnap people, or hand dryers are the work of the devil. They're loud, they're slow. And you know what? You probably think that they're better for the environment, but the optimistic studies say that they're only 20% better, while some others say that they're not even greener at all. Did you know that hand dryers actually increase the bacteria on your hands by 117%? You're better off not washing your hands at all. Hand dryers kill. That was just an example.

52:23 And I believe it. You remember that one, don't you? Oh, yeah. Hand dryers kill. Uh-huh. Well, especially the Dyson. I got two questions. One, why are we not taking all the hand dryers out of bathrooms? Because this was a meme like two or three years ago. Yeah, the Dyson jet dryer that it would blow, basically blow poop particles throughout the whole bathroom. And I saw this actually. Well, let's listen to my example of the mind control, and I'll give you my story afterwards. Okay. How Jeremy, how Jeremy are public restroom hand dryers.

53:04 Way to check out this photo. A nursing student in California says, this, get ready, is bacteria that came from a hand dryer in a public restroom. Can we cue up the vomiting sound effects, please? Well, in today's Good to Know segment, we're going to verify if this claim is actually true. I mean, was that bacteria from a hand dryer? One doctor says he's not at all surprised about what came out of that hand dryer. His name is Dr. Arash Corsina. He's an infectious disease specialist. He says hand dryers suck in bacteria that's floating around in the bathroom's air. That's why air filters in those hand dryers should be changed on a regular basis.

53:46 Literally, are just sucking in that air from the bathroom with all of this stuff aerosolized on it. And they're blowing it directly on your just washed hands. A good doctor recommends paper towels over hand dryers. I've been saying that for years, by the way. He also points out, though, that not all bacteria is bad for you. That is microscopic when you blow it up a million zillion times. Good lord. Well, now I'm confused. Now I'm confused. Do I use these things or not? Well, the funny thing was, like I always say, my wife, she loves the morning news, right? Yeah. Oh, when I'm getting dressed. And I heard this story.

54:27 Less than a month later, paper towels go up in our bathrooms. It works. Yeah, it looks like the paper industry was hard at work. So it just goes to show you how it bleeds in to culture. Well, that's our culture. But that's cult. That's pure. That's pure propaganda. I mean, that's advertising is propaganda. Someone, you know, that's why eggs are good one week and then they're not, and blue jeans are going to kill you. And we've been around that circle. And coffee kills you, but it's good for you. We go down. I mean, but I'm just going to show you how you bring in the gal with the coat, the white coat. Yep. And it's fish hard science. It's official. It's official.

55:09 Yes. So let's go ahead and wrap up with the fourth and final real mind control. The reason brainwashing works within a cult is because there is that peer pressure. Things that seem normal in the real world seem that way because everyone accepts them, while abnormal things seem normal in a cult environment because everyone within the group accepts them. And a lot of it's accomplished by environmental control, social isolation, information control. Cult leaders create a new normal by manufacturing people's worlds. And then once the person has accepted that program, then you move to the third stage, which is reinforcement.

55:52 Yes. Yes. The most important phase. Reinforcement. It's like, you know, wash, rinse, repeat. So that's how mind control works. And if you listen to the media and look at it as that perspective, you'd think that they're doing a real number on us. They're doing a real number on us. But we got to go back and figure out this hysteria thing. Because we just can't leave it there. I am a man of faith. And in my faith, and also it just, before I get to my faith, on the No Agenda Show, you all have this thing called karma, right?

56:36 And people say it works. Yes. Oh, totally. Yep. So it works because people think it thinks it works. If you have a collective group of people thinking something has power, then I think there's a real science behind it that it can gain power. We've never investigated, never looked into it deeply. We didn't come up with it. We didn't initiate it. But after 12 years, people seem to still want it. So it's working. Yeah. Right. So in my faith, we have this thing of the power of the word.

57:20 So I have Joel Olstein here, and he talks about your words becoming your reality. I want to talk to you today about how your words become your reality. You are where you are today, in part because of what you've been saying about yourself. Words are like seeds. When you speak something out, you give life to what you're saying. If you continue to say it, eventually that can become a reality. Whether you realize it or not, you are prophesying your future. And this is great when we're saying things like, I'm blessed, I'm strong, I will accomplish my dreams.

58:01 I'm coming out of debt. That's not just being positive. You are prophesying victory, prophesying success, prophesying new levels. Your life will move in the direction of your words. Oh, I'm a big believer in this. Big believer. And we are living right now in the middle of one of the largest manifestations of its kind in this regard, which is. And we're going to get to the science behind it. Well, before we get to that, I just want to say the MAGA, Make America Great Again, is literally this.

58:40 That is what people don't understand about Trump. He knows, he knows that by saying things over and over and truly believing that we're the best, no one's bigger, no one's better, it's going to be great, it's going to be fantastic, that there's a good chance it actually works out that way because you use that megaphone across enough people continuously. It actually works. And I felt it. The reason why I say that after the election in 2016, the previous eight years of all doom and gloom, it was just like everything is the worst, the worst, the worst. And after Trump was elected, and I don't think it has anything to do with him as a person, but like you said, it's the message and the mentality of people.

59:25 When you tell people, like you said, make something great again, people start to believe it and it starts being manifested. And we've seen this with this book called The Secret. Yes. That was a lot of it. And even Trump's, you know, and I know if you knew this or not, I think his name is Peel, last name Peel, wrote the power of positive thinking. Yeah, that was Trump's pastor. Yeah. So now we start to see the connections of you start to speak things and they start to manifest themselves into reality. This is I love this angle mode. I don't think anyone has looked at coronavirus from this angle yet.

1:00:06 I love you for it, my brother. It's fantastic. Now you got to ask yourself if you have 24 by 7 news coverage of nothing but negativity coming out of the speakers. Yeah, I wonder if it's going to make some people sick. Well, we're going to find out, but let's finish up with Mr. Joe Osteen part two. But too many people go around prophesying just the opposite. I never get any good breaks. I'll never get back in shape. Business is slow. I'll probably get laid off. Flu season is here. I always get it. They don't realize they are prophesying defeat.

1:00:43 It's just like they're calling in bad breaks, mediocrity, lack. The scripture says we will eat the fruit of our words. You are planting seeds when you talk. At some point, you're going to eat that fruit. There's a book by, I think it's Andrea Gardner. Change your words, change your world. I highly recommend it. And you know what? That mentality is how I was raised.

1:01:22 No, you can't say you can't. You can't, you know, no, you can't. Oh, my mother. Oh, you, you do not speak negative. No, like that was, you know, don't speak that into existence. That's what we say. Don't speak it into existence. And right, don't worry about it. And as I start to read more and become familiar with other people's cultures, other people's way of ways of life, this is a very common theme. And it's so much part of reality, we don't even realize it because the medical industry is based off of this. And it's called the placebo effect. Which no medical professional to date can explain.

1:02:06 Not at all, but they have to respect it because they, well, you know what? Let's let the side show explain the placebo effect. Scientists have known since the 1700s that placebos can sometimes provide real effective treatment, but exactly how it works is not well understood. What we do know is that placebo can be such an effective medical head fake that in the U.S., federal law requires that double-blind placebo tests be used in the trials of any new drugs. This means a new drug must beat its corresponding placebo in at least two clinical trials to become FDA approved. Which, as it turns out, is harder than it sounds. We expect to feel better after being treated, and that's actually where the name comes from. Placebo is Latin for I shall please. Basically, it enshrines the power of everything's going to be all right.

1:02:48 It's not just your mental perception, but also your body's physiological reaction to that anticipation, which actually activates immune responses and limits the secretion of damaging stress hormones. Interestingly, another study found that advanced Alzheimer patients experienced less pain relief from both analgesics and placebos. The disease had damaged their opioid receptors. They couldn't benefit from the anticipation of treatment, real or fake. But the power of thought can work against you too. The placebo effect has an equally powerful dark side, the nocebo effect. Ooh, never heard of the nocebo. Makes sense, of course. Yeah, for every positive, there's a negative. That's the universe. I mean, that's just how things work. The nocebo effect.

1:03:31 This is a very interesting phenomenon. Because I started thinking, I was like, I was having a chat with my good friend. And then I was like, you know, what's the opposite of the placebo effect? And I didn't even know what the name of it was, but I stated it that way. And I was like, well, let me search. Opposite of placebo effect. Bam. Nocebo effect. I didn't know that there was a counter to it. That's cool. And let's. let the science show explain it to us. Nocebos showcase the negative effects of thinking or anticipation. It's what's at work when, say, sugar pills cause real negative side effects.

1:04:09 For example, in one medical trial of a drug for fibromyalgia, a syndrome marked by chronic widespread pain, over 10% of volunteers given a placebo dropped out of the study because of the side effects like nausea and dizziness that they've been warned about. Even though the drug was inert, the mere suggestion that they might feel side effects actually caused the side effects. The nocebo effect can also occur in patients taking real drugs. This means if a doctor lists possible side effects, a patient is more likely to experience them. During trials for a drug designed to reduce enlarged prostates, half of patients were told the drug may cause erectile dysfunction, while the other half were not informed. Only 15% of the uninformed men reported the side effect, while a whopping 44% of the men who were told had trouble in the bedroom.

1:04:49 In the end, we're still not sure how placebo and nocebo responses work. It's likely the mechanisms vary depending on the circumstances. But Ted Kapchuk, director of Harvard University's program in placebo studies and the therapeutic encounter, suspects the bottom line might be pretty simple. Real drugs are important, but compassionate care and the act of trusting your caregiver are really critical. Kapchuk believes that the placebo effect has more to do with the attention, warmth, eye contact, and empathy given by a physician rather than the belief that a pill is real. In that case, placebos are all about the ritual of medical care and the trust we put into it. Wow, this is so deep, Mo. And I'd like to add that if you told any, in general, any man, that if he

1:05:30 steps on the cracks in the sidewalk, that he'd have erectile dysfunction. Believe me, we have these issues, so don't mess around with that, people. Don't be noceboing any guys about that kind of thing because it's a real mental game. And this last clip only proves more that you, Mr. Curry, are from the future. My goodness. The reason why I say that is I've heard you say on several occasions, I don't even listen to medic um uh prescription drug commercials. Oh, because I thought I think I'll go ahead and finish. Go ahead and finish. Yeah, I mean, when when we watch TV land a lot at night before, you know, like last show or something, it's either King of Queens or two and a half men, and it's it's stacked with ads and it's all uh pharmaceutical.

1:06:21 And the side effects are, you know, the anal leakage, you know, one foot might start twitching, you know, involuntary movements, nausea, want to kill yourself, want to kill other people. And I've turned it down because I and I've you're right, I've said many times. I'm a firm believer if you if you just let that play and it's yapping in your face subconsciously, you might actually develop some of these symptoms. Science is on your side, sir. And if they know about the placebo effect, they have to know about the nocebo. Huh? Yeah, about the nocebo effect, of course. Yeah, so why are you popping this negative, these negative

1:07:03 side effects out in that manner? Or why is not at least one professional, for instance, Dr. Fauci, or maybe it would be Dr. Burks, who would be better suited for her, to say, hey, you know, the media, what you're doing here is not helpful. That actually can hurt people that you're doing this, that you're being so negative, that you're going to such depths of depravity. Someone should do that because it's bad. Well, this is where we get into the weird portion of the show. Okay. Theremin? Just a touch.

1:07:44 All right, just a little touch of theremin there. Okay. Yes. Thank you. Witchcraft and the nocebo effect. In pop culture, witches are shown with cauldrons, cats, and broomsticks. However, now witchcraft is largely associated with the general use of magic and sorcery. In a religious context, witchcraft is seen as neo-paganism and remains essentially harmless in North America, despite pop culture pushing forward ideas of witches being associated with Satan and harm. If a witch can use the nocebo effect to manifest harm, then surely it can be used positively as well. So you have called spells though, where they've been so powerful that the result has been brilliant.

1:08:27 Yeah, amazing. The nocebo effect is a negative effect produced by the belief that something bad is coming. If you believe you will be harmed, you will be. In Western cultures, generally witches are not perceived to be real, let alone harmful. But in other societies, such as Ghana Africa, witchcraft is feared as the nocebo effect harbors a real threat in their society. Depending on your frames of reference and where you live in the world, witchcraft can be used to heal or or in conjunction with the nocebo effect used to harm. While cauldrons, cats, and broomsticks make for an interesting story, witches in real life in today's modern age are simply spiritual individuals.

1:09:10 So, this is basically how spells work. Yeah. Yes. In their previous clip, the man wrapped up his spiel on saying that it's the ritual of medicine. So, when you go in, you see the stethoscope, you see the white coat. All of that by itself. Yeah, all those people. All that gets you prepared to be healed. So, when you walk into a witch doctor's office, establishment, whatever it is, he has the candle and the skulls. Yeah, you're all set up. You're ready. I mean, because you're mentally conditioned to think, okay, this guy's for real.

1:09:52 And that's why in more traditional nations, maybe say like Africa, South America, even Central America, all over, witchcraft is more successful because the people actually believe and respect it. Far more than North America. So, this just furthers the fact of the nocebo effect and its use in supernatural, supernatural events. Well, I have Miss Helen Pilcher here, and Miss Helen Pilcher, she's a scientific writer.

1:10:34 She has an extensive resume. She gives her point of view on the nocebo effect. This time, it's the sad story of a guy called Sam Schuman. And this story is set in the 1970s. It's a true story. Now, Sam Schuman lived in America. And one day, he was told by a doctor that he had three months to live, that he was dying from terminal cancer. This is not a horse chestnut. I have been reliably informed. This is actually a cultured cancer cell, just so that you know. So, he was told he had three months to live, and three months later, he died almost to the day.

1:11:19 But when they cut him open and did an autopsy, they couldn't find any cancer. So, they expected his body to be riddled. But all they could find was a one-centimeter tumor that was barely enough to cause symptoms, let alone to have killed him. And I interviewed the guy who treated Sam Schuman, and he told me he didn't die of cancer, but from believing he had cancer. Wow, yeah, it's powerful stuff. So, now apply this to 24 by 7 news cycle, pumping out the deadly effects of the coronavirus, COVID-19, whatever you want to call it.

1:12:03 Now, I'm not saying, let me be clear. I am not saying that this thing is not real. What I'm saying is, in a weird type way, we're giving it supernatural powers and making it more powerful than it actually should be. I'm on board with this. I really am. I really am. And I'll take it a step further. I think if you're really deathly afraid, you're going to get it, you're going to get it. Whether it's real, manifested, or whatever it is. You know, if you truly, truly believe that, these things can happen.

1:12:44 I've witnessed this myself. And the more you watch the news, the more you're conditioned to believe it. Yeah, very, very, very unhealthy. And that contributes to the death toll, which makes more people believe, which makes more people get it. And then it just snowballs self-fulfilling prophecy out of control. And the reason why I want to do this show is I want us to be the mental vaccine for this thing. Seriously, I'm being serious. I mean, we have fun here, and I love to have fun because hopefully this is people's

1:13:26 around about two hours a week that they can kind of, you know, not think about things or laugh at things that are really serious. Well, that's always been my tool is humor and laughter. If you can make someone laugh, that solves a whole lot of problems they're having at that very moment. And you can set a whole new course. So, yeah, absolutely. I guess how. we fix it is just how we think about it. But if we let people know about the nocebo effect, about the power of the mind, how mind control works, they could put the pieces together and then control, you know, have a way of controlling their thoughts. Yeah, protect them. Protect yourself initially, and that's very easy.

1:14:10 And then, and it's consciousness. It really is consciousness and actively working against the negative thoughts. It's what you have to do. I've kind of trained myself to do that over time. I have too. And like I said, I grew up in a house where negativity was just not tolerated. Exactly. Tolerated. I mean, almost to, you know, to not want to not say a fault, but it was like, no, you cannot, you know, maybe that's part of who I am culturally. You know, could be. Because we're going to get there too. But in other words, what are you complaining about?

1:14:53 Have you looked at your great-granddaddy? Exactly. Yeah. Oh, that must be, that must be like the worst. It's like for any black kid in America. It's like, yeah, but it's not fair. You want to hear what's not fair? Look at this picture. Exactly. Does that get pulled out a lot? No, but it's kind of like a understood thing. Right. Okay. Like, you kids got it way better than we had it. And then you fill in the blank. Done. Done. Done. You got to pack it up. You're done. There's nothing you can say. Exactly. So, Miss Helen Pilcher, she points her finger at an interesting group in this next clip.

1:15:34 Now, that's suddenly a lot more real. Now, that story couldn't happen today, I can reassure you, because we have all this amazing imaging technology and these biomolecular tests. So that story cannot happen today. But I would argue that witch doctors are still around us. They're still here. In the southern states of America, 80 years ago, they may have wafted strange bottles of liquid around and hung around in graveyards. But I would argue that today's witch doctor wears a white coat and carries a stethoscope. What your doctor tells you can influence your health for the better or for the worse.

1:16:17 A nocebo is when it happens for the worse. Here's another one: 60% of people taking chemotherapy experience nausea before their treatments. Now, this is where it starts to get very serious. There is no medical reason for them to feel sick before their chemotherapy, but most people do. Days before or even hours before. Huh? Like I said, we don't cast, we don't paint things with raw brushstrokes here. No, no, but you know what? What hit me is I've always scoffed at telemedicine.

1:16:59 Like, what the hell good is it going to do for a guy in a white coat, literally, for a guy in a white coat to sit on camera and ask me how I'm feeling? And there's my answer. This is why it works. Just seeing the doctor with the lab coat, with the stethoscope, with his or her authoritarian kind of, you know, hey, and knowledge. I'm the doctor. Don't worry. That can already heal people. That's, I hadn't considered that. And it also can hurt people. And this is where I make my bold statement of the show. These people in the media are casting spells on people.

1:17:44 That's what they're doing. A bold statement, but I cannot disagree. I cannot disagree. They are casting spells on people by the technical definition. Yeah. And they bring their witch doctors on there in their white coats. That's right. And not talking about your doctor, your pediatrician, or they want your neighborhood doctor, because I think those people operate out of good faith. We're talking about the people at the highest levels, your Fauci's, you know what I'm saying? Those guys. Yeah, and they have agendas. They've got all kinds of agendas. They've got patents. They've got deals. They're working on other things. And when you start breaking down the medical symbols and

1:18:29 when it comes to the twisted snake and all that, yeah, no, it makes you a little crazy. I love that, Mo. I really love it. I really like this. I wasn't quite sure where you were going, but now I'm deep and I can't wait for the crazy. crescendo. But before we get there, we have to do what we have to do. I understand that there's some people out there who need my services. Yes, boy. Are there any people out there who are weak? Yes! Getting people out there who are weary. Yes! Get the people out there who are tired! Yes! Get the people out there who just need it here.

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1:27:00 And we're back. So in this time, there's a lot of churches being closed. Yes. Not voluntarily closing. No, not allowed to congregate. Right. So we talked about the nocebo effect and the negative side that. But then you couple that with the fact that you take the positivity out of people's lives. Out of some people's lives. I think this is going to really accelerate this. One of our favorite people to keep an eye on. He's not one of our favorite people.

1:27:40 Charlamagne the Guard. He talks about the Florida pastor who says he'll keep the church open. Drop one of the cools bombs for God. He ain't out here playing no games. Oh, she. Okay. I'm saying all that to say, I totally understand why people's faith is strong and why you would lean into God at a time like this. Okay. It makes perfect sense. But what I don't like is pastors like Rodney Howard Brown taking advantage of his flock's faith. See, when you're a pastor ordained by God, you are a leader. Okay. You are a lot of folks' spiritual leader and they will follow you to the ends of the earth. And you shouldn't take advantage of that. But sadly, that's what Rodney Howard Brown did. And oh, just a reminder, what does your Uncle Sharla always tell you?

1:28:22 The craziest people in America come from the Bronx and all of Florida. And River Church is indeed in Florida. Well, this past weekend, Rodney Howard Brown's church was packed to have. hell with social distancing. Give me six feet in my ass. If you go look at the video online, they have a full house. And Pastor Rodney Brown, who claims he will cure coronavirus the same way he cured me. According to TMZ, Rodney has vowed he will never close his church despite every doctor, health expert, scientist all saying social distancing is the way. Social distancing is the only thing that will prevent disease from spreading even more. I can't make any of this up.

1:29:09 So he's obviously pushing an agenda. Yes. And this is one of these witch doctors, aka Boulet members. And we spoke about what they believe in in a previous show and their connection to Egypt and the occult. So it's not a far stretch. But then they mask themselves as some type of believer. But what upsets me is this guy wrote a book on anxiety. It was called Shook Ones. But then he gets on his microphone and basically pushes the anxiety agenda.

1:29:50 Now, if people find comfort in their faith, I'm sure certain churches, I mean, if people want to go to church, who would it say they can't go to church? I mean, the liquor store is open. I mean, it's like, we ain't close that down or other things, but now all of a sudden it's this. And I'm not getting on the soapbox here, but it's just this is where the media becomes personal with me because in my community, there's this concerted effort to push people against their faith. And I've seen this before.

1:30:28 I saw this before in 2012. I saw this play. Okay, Obama was elected in 2008, and he was a marriage is between a man and a woman, right? Until Joe Biden pulled him out of the closet and really showed what he really believed all the time. Yes. And it forced people, so-called quote-unquote black people, to choose between their faith and politics. I'm seeing this play made again. Interesting. From Mr. Charlotte McGoff. Yeah. Yeah. Now, I have a set of clips with him and Mr.

1:31:10 TD Jakes, and that's the gentleman that opened not show up. But just for a little background on Mr. TD Jakes, let's listen to him. Nothing is a powerful as a changed mind. This morning, I want to talk to you from the subject: there's nothing as powerful as a changed mind. There is nothing as powerful as a changed mind. You can change your hair, your clothing, your address, your spouse, your church, your residence.

1:31:55 But if you don't change your mind, the same experience will perpetuate itself over and over again because everything outwardly changed, but nothing inwardly changed. Where's his? This is a minister, right? TJ, Jake, Houston. Oh, he's in Houston. Okay. He's the biggest black preacher in America. He's got the mega church in Houston. MAGA, the Potter Potter's House, I believe it's called Tokyo. Okay, okay. Huge church. And he's the guy. I mean, like, yeah, your

1:32:35 Tyler Perry. I mean, yeah, comes, yeah, major. Now, he has a similar message that we heard from Joe Osteen. He's got a lot of merch on his website. Yes. He's got a lot of money. A lot of merch. Yeah, movies, books. But he has a similar message to what we heard from Joel Osteen. Yeah, what you speak into existence, you know, that kind of thing. Which I'm not even going to go there. But it's just interesting that he says, until you change your mind, nothing changes. Right. Now, let's listen to him when he has a conversation with Charlotte Manager.

1:33:16 You bring a doctor into the book that I want to talk about. Dr. Ish Major. Dr. Ish Major. When the doctor came on the scene and he begins to talk in the book, he begins to validate some of the feelings. feelings that you are expressing, though he, let's be careful to denote the fact that he is not your therapist. No, no, he's not. I wanted, I thought about using my therapist, but I didn't think that she would waive her right to privacy to do it. But I also thought it would be more powerful coming from a black male therapist, especially when you have a black man describing a lot of these experiences that are unique in a lot of ways to the African-American community. So I thought that, you know, Dr. Ish would be the perfect person to. He says a lot of things, Dr.

1:33:59 He says a lot of things that validate the whole traumatic experience that you share. One of the things that really, really leaped out to me and really spoke to me in a major way is when he begins to talk about them examining the children of the Holocaust survivors and finding their trauma had been passed on genetically because their parents were so traumatized. They passed through their DNA certain amounts of stress factors and stress stimulators that cause their children to be nervous and on edge. And his hypothesis or his conclusion is that African Americans being traumatized through slavery have passed on to their descendants a certain amount of PTSD and trauma and stress.

1:34:50 Oh man, I never heard of Dr. Ish Major. That's an interesting thing. We're talking about the nocebo effect, the nocebo effect is basically the same thing as the victimization mentality. Yes. Wow. See, I told you we get it first. We get it. The world is just experiencing the level of propaganda that we've been getting for at least the last 100 years. I want to say that with mass media. Well, so let me just stop there for a second.

1:35:31 Okay. On the previous, I know it was the show, last show or the show before, you also said, hey, you know how people are giving you stink eye because you don't have the right mask or you coughed or something. And you said, that's pretty much what it feels like to be black. Yes. There's a continuous awareness of people who could be scoping you out, checking it, which, by the way, is also what it's like to be a celebrity in an odd way, but it's not the same thing, but there's some similarities. So knowing this is happening, and you're identifying it correctly. And I know that other people have spoken to me about it after listening to the show.

1:36:16 I think I understand a bit of what Mo's talking about there in that regard. So how does that make you feel? Do you think, ha, now you know what it feels like? Or are you happy people can sympathize and understand? Maybe you don't feel anything at all? I want to share with people how I deal with it. Yeah. I don't give you the power to affect me. Right. I don't buy into the victimization mentality. Now, I've never, we've talked in the show many a times. I'm not saying that racism doesn't exist, especially on a systemic level.

1:36:57 I'm not saying that, you know, it's people set out to hold other groups down. What I'm saying is what I've said about this whole show, you can't give it power. Right. You can't, you know, it can exist, but you can't give it power. And for them to come up with this BS of it's passed along in the jeans, how can you prove that? Right. How can you? I know I'm going to get killed for this next statement. I think the narrative of slavery has been more destructive than actual slavery. Now, let me qualify my statement. Let me

1:37:39 qualify my statement. What I'm saying is the perpetual movies, the perpetual victimization mentality roots 12 years off, 14 years of slight 12, whatever it is, the trauma-based entertainment. That, if you didn't have that, then people could get past the stumbling blocks and actually progress. But they use the same way they're scaring the crap out of people with this coronavirus. They scared my people for 100 years now. And that's what builds the victimization mentality. And now they're going to the molecular level. Yes.

1:38:21 Literally. And if I have a child, it's going to be past. They have no choice. You're going to be born a victim. I appreciate you saying this because you have developed a set of tools that allow you to not have certain media elements in particular hold any power over you for who you are and where you come from. We all can learn a lot from that. And I'm. Go ahead. No, go ahead. Go ahead. Go Fisher's speech. Well, I'm kind of. I'm surprised at myself because amidst all of the work I've been doing in the past, you know, six, six to eight weeks on our current situation with coronavirus,

1:39:09 I kind of forgot all these parts about the mind control part, about the, even though I couldn't have named it for you, the nocebo effect, all of that. It's like, you know, I've studied it. I've been in therapy. Part of therapy has to do with this. I'm kind of kicking myself. I didn't realize that this is what's going on. So I really appreciate you packaging it up this way and connecting it to something real world for you and I. I love it. It's really good. I think they call it the fog of war. Yes. I think that's the term. Yes. I mean, because we're in it, right? Yeah, we are.

1:39:50 But I have strived not to participate in it. So I'm like at the edge of the pool, right? And I'm watching everybody, you know, struggle to stay, you know, stay afloat. Right. And I'm like, you know, you can get out the pool, right? I mean, you know that, right? Exactly. You don't have to be in it. But it's so much part of our culture. The entertainment and the news is so built in. And that's why they're using entertainers to push this agenda. Because it's like, when you try to escape, and that's why I said the only way you can escape is watch premium channels like HBO, where I'm sure they're going to find some kind of content to invade there as well.

1:40:36 But you can escape it. But what I find so disgusting is this. Now, we have Mr. TD Jake say, and my mom's going to kill me for this if she ever hears this, because she loves him. But you have him say there's nothing as powerful as a changed mind. And he has Charlemagne the guy sit across from him and tell him about the molecular genetic level that's passed. And how can you even do that study? Because those same children grew up in the house with somebody that probably loaded them up with the victimization mentality. So you can't do a double-blind. You can't separate that. No, you can't separate the cultural from the medical.

1:41:19 Of course not. Right. It's nature versus nurture. So how can you say that? And then why he pushed back and say, well, you know, Charlemagne, you know, once you change your mind, then you change your reality. But he didn't give that. He just buys into it. But I mean, I digress a little bit because I want to get into this second clip with TD Jackson and Charlemagne. So you can cue it up. Talk to me about the black experience from a street perspective. Well, I got a chapter in there called Black Anoid. You know, it's about being black and paranoid in America. And it's exactly what you just repeated that Dr. Ish said. It's like the PTSD. I look at PTSD as post-traumatic slave disorder as well. You know, my sister Angela Rai, she coined that term. And that's the truth because it's just all this trauma has been passed on from generation to generation.

1:42:04 And you have slavery, you have Jim Crow segregation. Like a lot of those things are the reason that we're in the conditions that we're in now. Well, after he mentioned Angela Rai, I couldn't even hear the rest of what he was talking about. It's not one of my favorite people. Another witch doctor. Yeah. That's what the Boule are. I mean, like, literally, that's what now we're starting to get into the role of what the Boule is. They whip up. Okay. Let's just back up a little bit about the Boule. I know we're going to go long, but I just want to, I really want to dive into this. Who did they say? Who did Margaret Sanger say to get? The Reverends. And who else?

1:42:46 Doctors. Doctors, yes. And if you have the Dr. Reverend, that's even better. Yeah. So if you got the white coat or the, you know, the collar, that prepares people to believe what you're going to say. Yes. And whatever you push to them, they're going to accept as truth. By the way, when you tell kids that a blue uniform with a badge is going to try and kill you, it all just came to mind. It wasn't anything I've been studying on or anything. Right. Yeah, but if you keep telling kids, hey, the cop is going to kill you. The cop hates you. The cop is going to kill you. Yeah, you're going to get in some weird situations.

1:43:32 Yeah, and this guy, once again, I'm going to say he wrote a book on anxiety called Shook Ones. And me being who I am, I went and looked the audio book up and took a couple clips from it. Very nice. Shook ones one. There's plenty of traumatic stress experienced by people during their day-to-day lives here in America, especially black people. The damage isn't just limited to contemporary events either. The traumatic legacy of slavery is still felt by African Americans hundreds of years later. I know there are going to be people on the right who hear that and will claim I'm practicing victimology if I simply tell me and other black folks to get over it already.

1:44:15 To them, I would like to say, suck my seven and a half inch eight inches in the summer because inherited trauma is real. Consider this. A few years ago, researchers at New York's Mount Sinai Hospital did a study on a group of Holocaust survivors and their children. The study found that the children of the survivors had stress levels in their genes that couldn't be attributed to the relatively healthy and untroubled lives they were living in America. The gene changes in the children could only be attributed to Holocaust exposure in the parents, said lead researcher Rachel Yehuda. This idea that a parent can pass trauma to a child in subsequent generations is called epigenetic inheritance.

1:44:56 The researchers studied other groups that weren't exposed to extreme stress, but didn't find any other examples of trauma being passed down through genetics. They must not have studied any black folks then, because there's no question in my mind that just as with those Holocaust survivors, the trauma of slavery has been passed down generation to generation in my family. I've heard of this epigenetic, but I also grew up with kids in Amsterdam whose grandmothers had numbers tattooed on their arms from the concentration camp. Believe me, the trauma came from the family, not just from the genes. Every single day, these kids were reminded of the hunger winter.

1:45:41 Right. Yeah, we had. That's why I say you can't, when you do that study, you can't say, oh, yeah, it was due to that. No, it was due to nature, not nurture. No, yes, I'd like that. I like the comparison of those two: nature and nurture. Absolutely. That's my experience. I'm no scientist, obviously. Let me also clarify. Now, I'm not saying if the woman is carrying the child and experiencing stress, that the child won't be affected by the stress. I'm not saying that. You know what? It's totally different. You know what book is written specifically about trauma in the womb, just since we're talking about cults.

1:46:17 What's that? That is Dianetics. That is the building blocks of Scientology around the book that talks about the trauma that is done to the child in the womb. The original original Dianetics before we got into the, you know, a lot of the wacky stuff, I guess. And we know L. Ron Hubbard's connection to all the, what was this? Just a lot of it. The C or And I'm going to give you a little fact to it if you didn't know this, but look into the connection with the NOI and L. Ron Hubbard and Dianetics. What's NOI?

1:47:01 Nation of Islam. We'll get there later. I'm sure we will. We'll get there on another show. I'm just saying. All this is. Yeah. But so it just infuriates me that I, like I said, I am more, I've come here, I've dissected white supremacy. I've helped define it. Not me personally, but share the definition I think that most accurately describes it. So I'm not saying that doesn't exist. But what I'm saying is you say that you're born with something and you can't control it. It's like saying, oh, well, my mother or father was an alcoholic, so I'm going to be an alcoholic.

1:47:43 Right. That is not acceptable. That's not healthy. And like I said, but that is the product of, I think, more, like you said, what the people hear. Yeah. And if we go on the larger scale, the mass media, if they're pushing trauma-based, fill-in-the-blank entertainment, news, media, that only just furthers it. But I got to tell you, I watch a lot of television, mainly K. cable news and C-SPAM. And now I'm very in touch with what I'm receiving. And I'm very, very, it's not a passive thing I do. I'm actively engaged.

1:48:25 I'm very careful not to watch anything passively without, unless it's pure a movie. Yeah, I got to get into it, but anything else. And I do that purposefully because I don't want to get hurt, but even I feel anxious and I know, okay, it's time for me to stop. I just got to stop, turn it off, go outside, do something else, because it works that way. And I've built up resistance, but oh yeah, I feel it. I definitely feel it. I do too. And, you know, you have to decompress. And like you said, you have to be in the right state to take media in. Because like you said, if you take it in and not prepared, it will

1:49:06 be harmful. I have even like secondhand, secondhand corona, like secondhand smoking. I have, I hear conversations. I even had to correct my kids. I mean, they don't, yeah, they're like, oh, yeah, the corona, the corona. I mean, it's like, I mean, they obviously picked it up in school somehow. Yeah. But, I mean, it's happening. But let's go ahead and get into Shook One's 2.1. A professor at Virginia Commonwealth University describes the dangerous effect that toxicity can have on African Americans. Whether it's related to the pressures from society, increased chances of being stopped by the authorities, trying to provide for their families, or trying to find a job or to sustain the job, when the stressor occurs, there are physiological processes that occur in the brain that trigger the release of cortisol.

1:49:55 What we have found was in certain people who are constantly stressed, cortisol levels do not go down throughout the day. It will remain high. When your stress levels are chronically high, it can create all sorts of lasting damage. Physically, it can lead to diabetes, which African American men are almost twice as likely to develop as white men. It can also dramatically increase your blood pressure, which might explain why, according to the American Heart Association, the prevalence of high blood pressure in African Americans is the highest in the world. No wonder that African Americans are 1.5 times more likely to die of heart disease than whites.

1:50:34 Chronic stress can also lead to anxiety. There's no question the stress I experienced as an African American, especially a pole when growing up in the South, has directly led to my issues with anxiety. I'm no fan of Charlemagne, but he had a lot of interesting things to say there. I mean, I can't disagree with it. No, he does, but he's part of the problem because he contributes to that stress by getting on his radio show every day early in the morning. And people need to look this up, but you're more susceptible to receiving information early in the morning. Oh, no doubts. No doubt. This is why I don't listen to black radio in the morning because they're charging you up.

1:51:17 We heard Tom Joyner. I mean, we heard these shows. So when you think about it, you have poor people that's dependent upon free entertainment that being black radio. And then you pump them full of, oh, this election is going to decide everything. You know, if you don't vote, it's going to be the end. And you're making. Maybe you wonder why. And you're literally killing your audience in the process. It's fantastic. But then you come back and write a book on anxiety when you're actually causing an answer. But isn't that always what the criminals do? They always want to make up for it somehow.

1:51:56 That's his conscience. His conscience is making him do this. He has to write this book because he feels bad deep down. He feels bad about it. And he knows what the effects. He's going to spot the BS, though. And I'm going to call him on every time I can. And he talks about his existence or just existing as a black man. It is stressful. I'm not going to say that. I'm not, you know, because the reason why I say it's stressful is when you start thinking about how people think about you, and that's what this corona thing is. When you go outside of the house without a mask, like, oh, God. Yeah. You know, that feeling. So, I mean, imagine being 24-7, but then when you say, you know what, screw everybody.

1:52:37 You know what I'm saying? That's their problem, not mine. That's how you defeat it. But let's listen to Charlamagne's existence of how he's being stressed. Like many African Americans, I've experienced more than my fair share of shocking, scary, or dangerous events. And most of them have involved the police. Dealing with the police has always been traumatic for me, and it's partially my fault. As a teenager, I was selling crack and carrying guns, which practically ensured that my interactions with the cops were going to be stressful. Knowing that I could be arrested at any moment can. kept me in a state of constant anxiety. I mean, I was selling crack while I was on probation, no less. If I got caught, I was going straight to prison. How could I not be worried? Well,

1:53:20 I think selling crack and carrying guns will dry you stress up a little bit. Just a tad. Just a tad. It might get you a little, a little jumpy. And then he's selling poison to his own people while he's on probation. Yeah. Disgusting. Well, but okay, there's something to be said for him. I know you're not going to agree, but I'm just going to play Devil's Advocate. You know, he cleaned up his act, at least the crack dealing act. And he's writing about his experience. I'll give him a little bit of a pass. But of course, he's a hypocrite.

1:54:01 This is why I don't give him a pass because all he did was trade one drug for another drug, crack for fear. He's still peddling. Well, he's actually peddling a much more dangerous drug. Crack is a walk in the park compared to fear and what that can do and what it does to your anxiety levels. He didn't mention the adrenal glands, but there's a lot of stuff. Stress is stress makes you sick. Yeah, and then on top of that, crack is a voluntary exchange because I want something from you that I know what it's going to do to me. What he's doing on the radio, through the airways. Most people don't know what it is. He's just as sick as everybody else, what they're doing with Corona right now.

1:54:44 I can't, I had to, I had to put them in. I can't make an exception for him. Okay. I can't. I mean, me personally. No. But I don't. Well, that's it. I'm never listening. I'm never listening to him again. Well, we have to listen to him because we have to keep an eye on him. I'm counting on you for clips. I'm not going to listen to him. You do the monitoring. Yeah, well, I had to keep an eye on him because I mean, hey, you never know. Yeah, he's poisoning my people. I can't. I don't like that. I hear it. But I never like to leave this show on a negative note. It's part of the mind control of this show. We want to make sure you leave happy so you come back happy.

1:55:28 Yeah, I mean, all of that. He takes something away that, you know, maybe help you through the week. And this is going to be your antidote for the mind control that you may experience this week. Matt from Mooreberry? Yes, I am Thurman. Only this time I brought my secret weapon. My brain. What are you talking about? He's talking about brain control. Brain control? There ain't no such thing as brain control. There's mind control. Brain control is ridiculous. That's ridiculous.

1:56:10 Yes, it's ridiculous. That's ridiculous. Barry. Very. Barry. Barry. Barry. Very. Barry. What are you doing? Oh, my God. It works. How are you doing that? I am making you say everything that I say. Yeah, but I'm saying it first. Are you? Yes. Really? I am very, very powerful. Oh, my gosh. I hate to say it. I don't know what movie that's from. That's a dinner for schmucks.

1:56:54 That's okay. So, yeah, brain control. Brain control. How do we apply the brain control, Mo control your brain? Control what goes into your brain. You know, counterbalance the mind control. Take away what we learn here. Once you know the playbook of mind control, I mean, you can just use your brain control. That's the antidote. I'm switching it on full blast mode, definitely. This has been good. I think the awareness for people is really a very helpful tool. And you can just start with those pharma ads, by the way. That'll remind you that what's in between the commercials is also probably harmful to your health.

1:57:41 So be careful. Be careful what you're listening to, what your intake is. Switch it off. Listen to Mo Facts. And then listen to some music. And no agenda. And no agenda. And listen. Yeah, listen to some jazz, you know. But that is the best thing: just turn it off, stay away from it. Be on guard, I guess. Be on guard, right? Yeah, that sounds about right. Be on guard. Just take maybe. five minutes, ten minutes of news a day, you know, and then go on with your life. Live your life. Mo, thank you so much for doing this. I didn't quite, it happens often. I didn't quite know where we were going in the beginning. Wasn't quite sure.

1:58:23 But I like it a lot. And you've actually triggered, excuse me, Rona. You've triggered a number of things in my brain that I put aside, hadn't thought about. And I'm going to reactivate those. It's very good, very helpful. And I appreciate you bringing this up. And also how it ties into the overall theme of the show. People can experience this and think about it. Think about this experience and how this experience is similar for other people in other ways. And like I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself.

1:59:02 And we look forward to seeing you, dear producer, out there next week. We'll try and do it on a Saturday. And for that, we'd like you to support the show. Go to mofax.com for all the latest, the podcast feed, the archives page, and directly to our donation page at mofundme.com, M-O-E-F-U-N-D-M-E.com. Mo, I'll talk to you next week, buddy. All right. See you later, Adam. All right. Take it easy, man. And we'll see all of you as well right here on MoFax with Adam Curry. And then I go home, oh. No more my mom and hairplay with no rehearsal.

2:00:01 Yeah. Said I love my mocho. Mojo. Let my mojo in my favor suit. Yes, I did, yeah. She loved to sting. Left the dirt of stain in my heart. I can't refuse. Oh no, I can't, no, I can't. She done worked it through in the name of your hand. To my children's home. From the bed of the bottom bottom, let those go more like a range of dirt.

2:00:43 I'm about to cry for angel to the end of time.