Topic: Shock

Clive Doyle describes his escape through a hole created by a tank, only to be met by FBI agents who threatened him and demanded to know the location of the children. He details the arrest of other survivors, including Ruth Riddle, who had jumped from a second-story window with a broken ankle. Doyle claims agents treated the injured survivors with hostility, including jerking Riddle by her hair while she was in shock.

Jack DeVault expresses an apocalyptic view regarding the year 2000 computer bug, commonly known as Y2K. He describes being arrested during a protest against biometric thumb scanning and predicts a government-engineered economic crash to force citizens into retina or thumb scanning systems. The conversation suggests that the middle class is being stripped of resources to build their own "cage" of slavery.