Topic: Afterlife

The hosts contrast their views on religion during the Easter weekend. Glen identifies as an "active atheist" who enjoys the pagan and secular aspects of holidays, such as chocolate, while Jonnie describes a more spiritual "faith-based ethos." They briefly debate the existence of an afterlife and the idea of a "spirit-based being" on a journey.

John Campbell quotes the Sufi poet Hafiz regarding the choice to come to God "dressed for dancing" or on a stretcher. He shares the story of his wife Annie, a neuroscientist and former skeptic, who had a spiritual awakening after witnessing a ball of light leave her first husband's body upon his death. This event led her to the works of Eckhart Tolle and eventually to "A Course in Miracles."