In an interview on the Salty Christian podcast with Matt Munt, musician Tim Timmons discusses his shift from "working for God" to "joining God." Timmons, who co-wrote the Mercy Me hit "Even If," explains that he stopped trying to perform "cool things" to earn divine favor and instead focused on being present in God's existing work. This perspective is linked to the biblical teachings of John 15 regarding the vine and the branches.