In an interview on the *No Jumper* podcast, host Adam 22 triggers a guest by bringing up Kevin Samuels. The guest, Weezy, criticizes Samuels for "shitting on Black girls" and expresses a desire for Dr. Umar Johnson to "get him." The discussion highlights the internal conflicts within Black media, where figures like Dr. Umar are supported for their pro-Black stance despite being labeled "homophobic" by the same people using them as a weapon against Samuels.