Hollywood reporter Mark Ebner discusses the "trail of drugs" leading to the Playboy Mansion, specifically naming Dr. Mark Saginar as the provider of "thigh openers" (Quaaludes) for Hefner and Cosby. Ebner also mentions the suspicious death of playmate Paige Young. The hosts compare Hefner to Jeffrey Epstein, suggesting he possessed "the goods" on enough powerful people to remain untouchable by the law.