Using a clip from the show "Boardwalk Empire," the hosts discuss the historical relationship between J. Edgar Hoover and black leaders like Marcus Garvey. They revisit the claim that Hoover himself had African American ancestry, arguing that this fact is suppressed because it complicates the narrative of a white-led suppression of black movements. The discussion explores how Hoover used informants to dismantle "seditious" groups throughout the early 20th century.