96: Out of Luck

00:12 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for January 24th, 2024, episode number 96. It's a new year, and we're still here. I'm Adam Curry coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. Time once again to spin the wheel of topics from here to Northern Virginia. Please, say hello to my friend on the other end, the unimitable, the one and only Mr. Mo Facts. How you doing, Adam? Mo, I'm good, man. It's so. You know what? I'm just smiling from ear to ear. Tina's like, oh, a new Mo Facts. And it hasn't been half a year. I say, yeah. That's right. Yeah. We're getting the new year off straight. We're getting one in January. I love it, man. I love it. Everything good there at Casa Mo?

00:57 Everything is wonderful. I can't. I can't. Life is great. I mean, we hit. Now, did we record after Christmas? I think we did. After Christmas, but before New Year's. I think it was like on the 27th, 28th, somewhere around the end. Right, so you had a good New Year's, everything cool with the fam. Everyone, everything. Everything's going good. I am so happy to hear that. Well, I'm excited about what we're going to do today. As usual, Mo has put a show together. I have no idea what we're going to do, so I'm going to spin that wheel. The big wheel of topics round and round it goes. Nobody knows where Stasco Mo knows because he did do all the work and put it all together. So I look forward to talking about the topic for today. The topic is. Eats up potluck. Oh, yeah. Okay.

01:40 Potluck, potluck. We know what that means, don't we? La la la la la la potluck. It could be anything at this point. Potluck always drives us into crazy corners of the universe. Episode number 96 of Mo Facts with Adam Curry will be potluck. Yes. All right, Mo. Let's get to it. So with the potluck, for maybe people as the first listener, we cover maybe topics that may not be connected or connected in three to four segments. I think I have four segments this time. It's one of my favorite things to do and kind of sad.

02:21 It's the last one we're going to do on this iteration of the show. You know what I'm saying? I hear you. It'll be the last, the last potluck ever. You're in luck, everybody who showed up today. It's history, folks. This is it. History. By the way, if I can just say, thank God for Verizon, because you sound so good. It only took us four years. Internet poverty is what it is. It's true. You were in the internet desert all this time. Yes. And there's only better sound to come. We got some treats. Thanks to the producers. Got some even better sound quality around the corner. But let's get to the first block. This is block A, and this is going to be Fonnie versus 45.

03:07 Woo! Okay, good, good, good. Because there's all kinds of stuff, and I'm sure everyone has only half the story. Let's go ahead and jump into number two. Fulton County District Attorney Fonnie Willis, who was investigating Donald Trump's alleged efforts to overturn his election loss in Georgia, is expected to present her case to a grand jury next week. So of course, Trump is lashing out at her as his fourth indictment looms. They say there's a young woman, a young racist in Atlanta, and they say, I guess, they say that she was after a certain gang and she ended up having an affair with the head of the gang or a gang member.

03:48 And this is a person that wants to indict me. She's got a lot of problems, but she wants to indict me to try and run for some other office. Okay, okay. So all of that was bogus and completely untrue. Let's just pause on the part where he accuses Willis of having an affair with a gang member. Why would he think that or say that? And why would he put that baseless claim in a campaign ad released last week? You know, that's interesting because I kind of forgot the gang member part. All I know is the lawyer that you had an affair with him. Is he a gangbanger? No, no, no, no, no, no. This is classic 45 Savage. Got it. Okay. This is him over-delivering.

04:33 He sets it up because it's been, for people that don't know, Fonnie Willis has been tasked with cleaning up Atlanta. Let's just give some background on what she's been cleaning up. You mean cleaning up the mess that after the 2020 election? It goes even farther back than that. Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, that goes back. It's the thing called Operation Triple Beam. And you got Cop City down there. And it's a whole thing. I remember. Cop City, but Operation Triple Beam. Yeah, I don't want to slow you down, but this is pertinent because she's been on a roll.

05:10 And I think that what gave her the audacity to think that she could take on somebody, a troll, like 45, a master troll, let's put some respect on it, like 45 Savage and come out of this unscaped. So, what I was saying was she over deliver Trump over-delivered as he does. If he says he has something, it's going to be bigger, right? This is the salesman him. This is the heel. If we go back to wrestling, the wrestling analogy that we did on, I think, show 45. But I digress, let's get up to speed. So, she has this case going on with Young Thug from YSL, and also I think YFN

05:56 is another gang in Atlanta, which they called herself. Yeah, right. Okay, this is this is Young Thug, where I even played a clip on No Agenda. I probably misidentified that as drill rap, right? But uh, Young Thug, they're like, Oh, no, you know, he's just playing a character, he's just playing a character in uh, in his music, he didn't really kill anybody, correct, and it's the whole thing with can they use the lyrics and that thing. And this case has been drawn out, so that's where she was allegedly sleeping with uh the guy she was defending at the time from YSL and just because I don't know. So, YSL, uh, Young Thug is a part of YSL.

06:39 Yes, he's the quote-unquote leader, and I said it on purpose. Oh, he's the leader of YSL. Um, well, the face, let's not get too bogged down in that, but that's that's the that's the genesis of his first claim. But as we always know, there's another shooter drop. Let's go ahead and get to the next clip. This is where the campaign ad he created that they're all up in a fuss about Biden's newest lackey, Atlanta DA, Fonnie Willis. So corrupt, Willis got caught hiding a relationship with a gang member she was prosecuting

07:17 again. Bogus, baseless, and completely untrue. Moments ago, NBC obtained an email sent from Fonnie Willis to her staff responding to the Trump ad. She slammed the ad as derogatory and false and urges her staff to remain focused. The ad tries to add legitimacy to the claim by sourcing a Rolling Stone article from January written by music and culture writer Andre G. Here's the article, which talks about how Fonnie Willis back in 2019 served as defense attorney to an Atlanta-based rapper named YSL Mondo. Now, here's the context: Mondo is a co-founder of the rap group YSL Crew, whose most famous member is rapper Young Thug, who now prosecutor Fonnie Willis has indicted, along with multiple members of the YSL crew, in a sweeping RICO case that alleges that they are not a rap crew, they are a gang.

08:10 See where this is going? And note again that Willis was not Mondo's prosecutor at the time, as the Trump ad claims. She was his defense lawyer. The Rolling Stone piece does not in any way say or even suggest that the two had a relationship outside of their professional one. Meaning, Trump is doing what Trump does: taking a fragment of something that is true that Bonnie Willis knows YSL Mondo and twisting it into a perverse false claim in order to defame and discredit her in a way that is particular to her being a woman and a black woman at that. Of course. All right. So, of course, there's no dispute that she had a relationship with this guy. There is a dispute. Oh, there's a lot of people. And there's real, well,

08:54 in the in the it's there's rumors out there what he couldn't prove only to set up what he could prove later. So, um, yeah. Um, so we got Mondo, YSL. This is what happens when you get too comfortable. And this is what I was saying before about black women were going to be the fall guy for all of this. If you notice, and she's even seeing that she, I don't know why she didn't see it before. You're going after a former president who is as petty as they come.

09:39 Yeah. Uh, and this is the same guy that brought Bill Clinton's accusers to a presidential debate. Yeah, so he'll do anything he needs to, yeah, right. And with this kind of hit history or innuendo around you, I don't see why. why she took the case. But did she have a choice? That's the next question. So, yes, you did say this. I remember. So you're saying that black women, the Democrat Party really is going to let black women take the fall. How I see it is either you're going to prove you're effective or we're going to destroy you in the process. Right. So it's no risk for them. No risk at all because they've proven themselves to say the Democrat Party is saying, you made all these promises, what you could deliver.

10:27 Now deliver or you're no use to us. And if you're no use to us, then well, we won't. We'll let the other side do it. We'll let you burn. Yeah. Yeah. And we'll use you as a sacrificial, you know, as a, as a, what's the word I'm looking for? A sacrificial lamb, like hold you up and say, look what he did to the black woman. Martyr is martyrdom. That's what Joy Reed is already running on here. Yes. Got it. So before we go any further, there's this clip of Fonnie Willis in 2020, excuse me, 2020, where she says how she will handle an employee who sleeps with

11:07 someone in the office. It is saddening to me if young women felt like they came to work and they were, one, even judged for being a woman, but two, if certainly they felt uncomfortable within the workplace. That will not be something that is allowed on my watch. Supervisors under my leadership that are not encouraging and building up my staff will not be supervisors long in my administration. And I certainly will not be choosing people to date that work under me. Let me just say that. You know, we are at a place in society where things happen in people's relationships, husband and wife, sometimes there are outside relationships.

11:48 I don't think that that's what the community is concerned about, although there might be a moral breaking in that. I think that what citizens are really, really concerned about is if you chose to have inappropriate contact with employees. I mean, there's nothing that I can say on it other than it is distracting. It is certainly inappropriate for the number one law enforcement officer in the state. And it just, it really, really saddens me. And it will be very unfortunate if the taxpayers of this community have to pay for any of those lawsuits. Exactly. That's the way I feel about it also. Whoa. Yeah. That's the smoking gun right there. Before we move on, in clip three, there was something that Joy Reed did that I want to point out.

12:33 She went from saying Fonnie Willis represented YSL Mondo to knowing him. The big difference between knowing someone and representing them. So I just want to point that out. And our undercurrent of this show is going to be propaganda, spotting it, and maybe some tactics of how to deal with it. But I just want to point that out. What I find interesting, and I'm seeing this more and more, is Joy Reed is being read in. She knows what's, she knows the plan. She knows she's different. She used to be like a weekend host and she would be something to laugh at. It feels like she's much more integrated now in whatever schemes and plans are going on.

13:17 She too has to prove her value. This is not just politicians. This is not just the Soros sisters. This is not just elected officials. This is all of you that, because we got to go back and remember how they gained power. It was at the, we'll ruin you. We'll, you know, we'll be the squeaky wheel if you don't give us what we want. And that was at the time. Remember, they wanted Kamala Harris as VP. They wanted a Supreme Court justice. They got it. And now it's like, okay, we delivered. We gave you what you wanted. Now show us how good you are. Right. And if you don't, we will embarrass you in the spotlight.

14:02 And Joy Reed is on the hot seat right now. Can I ask you? It's kind of like with Coke. Go ahead. Can I ask you a culture question? Yes. This hair. The blonde hair. What is up with that? Is this a trend? This type of her hair is weird. It just looks weird. I know, third rail, but here I am. Because I don't know if she's trolling. Because she's went through an assortment of different hairstyles. Oh, yeah. But the blonde itself, you know, I don't know if she's trolling because the same thing with Jean-Claude Pierre or whatever her name is.

14:45 Jean-Claude Pierre Van Damme. Yes. Yeah. I think it's a. a sense of or a portion of trolling the way they handle things because they understand the internet and how the internet will react to the hair. All right. How the internet will react to the binder, to the gaslighting. You know, it's this struggle session that they draw you into. So I don't think she's oblivious to how the hair crumbs across. I think it's more to increase engagement for people to talk about it and not talk about the propaganda itself.

15:27 I just want to say that, you know, because that's the whole thing about propaganda. It pulls you in. And what we talked about, this is a tactic of war. This is like a companion of the last show to see how we can be pulled into talking about what they want to talk about. It's like, yeah, look at my hair. You know what I'm saying? Don't listen to how I'm trying to manipulate you. The reason why, I mean, I have some standing in this, although there was no social media when I was on MTV, but I had the hair, and that hair was because that's what everyone, all the guys had that hair. You know, all the rockers had that hair. And I'm like, okay, I had that hair. And it changed a little bit over time. So that was kind of the, it was the culture of the moment.

16:10 So that's why I asked, is this the culture of the moment? And the answer is yes. The culture of the moment is to have something that people will talk about, which, you know, of course, you hear Dvorak. He's like, she's wearing Trump's hair. Okay, so it works. And we can't forget one of the other tangibles that they wanted was the Crown Act, where they could wear their natural hair and not be discriminated against. And we can't forget MSNBC, and I forget her name, the one they fired, well, maybe a year ago, Tiffany, Tiffany, her first name's Tiffany, but she got fired by MSNBC. Remember when they had that big roundtable with all the black Boule women?

16:53 And they were like, we need our makeup. You know, black makeup is a special kind of makeup. Tiffany Cross. We need to have you Tiffany Cross. That's it. They had this whole big powwow, Boule powwow, of how, you know, their, which is true. Their products are different and how makeup is different for them. Only to go and copy hair that's not natural to us. Right. Right. All right. So now we got to get to the other shooter drop because it's not about YSL Mondo. This is about the real reason why she should be removed and disbarred.

17:33 Well, calls are growing for Fulton County, Georgia District Attorney Fonnie Willis to step down from the election interference case against former President Trump. I mean, can she do the job with all that's going on? That's the question. Wow. She herself has snarled in a messy love triangle, allegedly, and faces calls to resign for paying her alleged lover, Nathan Wade, big money, $650,000, despite him having no experience. She put him on the Trump case, arguably the biggest case of her career, and paid him. And now stuff's happening. Steve Harrigan on the story and Marietta, Georgia now.

18:11 Steve. Harris, the fight today is over divorce proceedings, whether or not they should be unsealed, and whether that district attorney, Fonnie Willis, should be forced to be deposed to give testimony in this divorce case. Another hearing coming up next month will look at whether the two behaved improperly and whether they improperly used taxpayer money to take vacations. Many are already beginning to say that the district attorney should step aside. How did this news break? How did this come out? Is that the ex-wife? Did she make the trouble? I'm not sure how actually. Now, that's a good question because I don't know where I've heard about it on the internet. And we're going to get to the possible role of the ex-wife in this.

18:57 But I think Trump and his team knew all along because you do opposition research, right? Yeah. And it's like, oh, we got a one-two punch. The jab would be YSL Mondo. And then the knockout is the lawyer. Yes. Which is why we do the show because nobody talks about it in the way we talk about it. No. What's being not discussed is the colorism aspect of this. Fonnie Williams. I am so, I love this show because to me, this was like, you know, it's like, look, I've been through divorces.

19:36 I'm like, it's really horrible. People are bringing this stuff out. And, you know, it's okay. It seems a little more complicated. I remember. was it not? Who was the Marsha, the OJ trial? Marcia Clark? Marsha Clark and the other lawyer. And didn't they wind up getting married? I don't know if they got married, but I know they were in a relationship at the time. That was a big story. It's a subplot. Yeah. And to me, it's, you know, exactly. To me, this whole thing was a little bit like, eh, it's subplot. I kind of glossed over it. It's like, ah, you know, whatever. But now there's colorism involved. You have my attention, sir. Okay. The colorism aspect of this is Fonnie Willis is a fair-skinned woman.

20:18 Yeah. Nathan's wife is a dark-skinned woman. Yes. That's a culture break, brother. What was he thinking? Well, what he was thinking is moving up the ladder. He was sleeping his way up. I know. And to be fair, he was doing a Kamala Harris. Now, everybody wants to put it on Kamala, how she got her place and how she got her position. He's doing the same thing. See, I'm an equal defender. Yes. Yes. So also, Fonnie is the home wrecker in this situation.

20:56 Here you have a couple that's been married, I think, for 26 years. Yeah, and she comes along with her big bag of politic money, actually the government's money to distract him away from his home and take vacations together. Which I don't understand. Like, it's way. How stupid are you? How stupid are you? Is the question. Right. Which, which leads us to say, how can you be in this position and be that dumb with the paperwork? You know, and this is one of the issues with affirmative action.

21:37 Are these people really qualified? And that's why I said my issue with affirmative action is the first thing, which I'm a supporter of it, if it's done properly, to say the first qualification should be you're qualified. Qualified, right? Right. We don't lower the, we don't have lower expectations due to whatever color you are. And this is, you know, and this comes at a time when DEI is very much in the forefront because it's being seen as the problem with aviation, you know, the problem with all kinds of things. Lots of corporations are quietly, you know, rolling this back, going, oh, maybe that wasn't such a good idea.

22:18 You know, the timing could not have been better for this. Well, let me give you a little bit of insight to that because I was in a corporation that bought into DEI the whole way. Those HR and the DEI specialists that came in, they came in very heavy-handed. And it's the same thing going on in corporate America as I stated previously in politics and the Sorosis and everything else. You came in with this HR DEI grift saying how you could deliver, and we don't see anything being delivered. So same thing, exactly right. Like all we see is quality of products, services going backwards.

23:00 Yeah, and you came in and upset my workforce with this. And this is the irony of it that the people that was in power signed off on it, but they take no accountability and they're going to just kick it back over to the DEI specialist. Say, well, we were sold something else. This is not what we were sold. I love when the wheels come off of stuff. And you're going to have a mass cleanup, for lack of a better word, of all of this problem. Because I've seen, I saw it when they came in. It was browbeating. It was, like I said, heavy-handed, coming in, talking to management crazy.

23:42 Like, you know, shut up and sit in the corner kind of thing. You know, check your privilege. To manage it, huh? Yes. Oh, wow. Yes. Because they had them in a corner. Because we got to look, George Floyd 2020 is when this all kicked off. And the corporation was like, we just don't want to be racist. Do whatever you got to do to us. We just don't want to seem racist. Whip me again, please. Yeah. Which there's a pseudo-masochistic kind of thing there. It's like, which we covered that in the previous show. How yeah. So I want to get, I don't want to get too far away. I just want to lay all the show the lay of the land of what's going on down in Atlanta.

24:21 So Fonnie is, she is like the worst because not only is she a homewrecker, but she's also the ladder that this guy's climbing up on, moving away from his dark-skinned wife, which, of course, creates lots of strife in the community, in the culture. Right. It's bad, bad, bad all-around stuff. So getting it from the DEI white folk and from the home front. Yes. Now I feel bad for Fonnie Willis. Well, there's only one thing Fonnie can do, and that's to go to church. Church number six. All the glory I receive, it's his grace. Not a perfect me. We are at a time in history, people.

25:05 Hear me on this. We are at a time in history when you can no longer sit back and just let other folks do it. You cannot expect black women to be perfect and save the world. The Lord is completing us. We are not perfect. We need your prayers. We need to be allowed to stumble. We need grace. With that kind of support, we will move mountains and do Jesus' will. Stumbling all the way. Stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. Because this is a long clip. So I'll just click. That's okay. Stumble. Bring it in.

25:51 Yes. Stumbling. Not stumbling, not past tense, stumbling all the way. I'm going to continue to have issues come up. It's right out of scripture. Yes, to stumble. Stumbling is right out of scripture. But this also goes to show you why the black church has lost any credibility because you platform a woman that's in the middle of breaking up a marriage and you allow her to use a government agent or government, you know. Use the pulpit. Yes. To justify. If I stumble, I don't get to pop up on stage at my church.

26:32 Say, hey, hold on a second, everybody. I'm a good guy. No. But they have power. Black women, and we're not talking about all black women. Really, we're talking about the Blu-Lay black women because they're the only one that really has enough clout to lean on the church to say, hey, I'm sure that pastor was like, I don't really want to, just to put myself in his shoes for a minute. I don't, I don't, complete speculation. I want to put it up front. But I'm sure the call was like, hey, we need somewhere for Farn to talk. And he's like, I don't really want to get him in the middle of this, but you have to realize his biggest value for value base.

27:12 Yeah, right. Yeah. Is black women in Atlanta. So his Boulet phone was probably called and said, you're going to let Fonnie do what she needs to do and say what she needs to say because there's bigger implications if she's taking off this case. Right. All right. I rolled it back a few seconds here. So we'll pay. Okay, cool. We need your prayers. We need to be allowed to stumble. We need grace. With that kind of support, we will move mountains and do Jesus' will. Stumbling all the way. So this flawed, hard-headed, and imperfect child has a message for each of you today.

27:58 Please find a way to do your extraordinary, God-given assignment and make this community and the world a better place for all of his people. See, it is never about who you are. It is always about the great I am and who He is. Wait, wait. The great I am. So now it's about Jesus? Yes. Oh, I'm sorry. We are all flawed, sinners, unworthy, imperfect, damaged,

28:37 but we are profiled upon his call. You can find calm ground with people of all different ideologies if you simply commit yourself to being obedient and steadfast in your efforts and his word. If you commit yourself, God will turn your hard-headed self into the extraordinary for his kingdom. Thank you. So is that her version of repentance? He without sin or she without sin. May cast the first stone. Yes. Our woman. Nah, I'm in. Nah, I'm in. Our woman. Remember, that was a thing in itself.

29:21 Yeah. So, all right. So what we have here is her going to the church and saying, hey, I know I've fallen just like you falling, but it's not working. And I don't think she understood how she appears because this is even more reason for people not to be interested in voting for Democrat. Because this is what it all boils down to, is the 2024 election. Of course. All of this. That's what it's all about. Yeah. Especially in Georgia, which was one of the swing states.

29:57 If you have people not activated or blackivated, like we always talk about in black politics, then no low turnout, then you can't steal it because they're going to steal it. If it's close, they are going to steal it just like they did in 2020. Oh, they will definitely try, sure. But the Republicans are going to steal just as hard now. They've woken up to this. Like, hey, we know what you're doing. We're going to steal it too. Right. So this is what this is not about the voters' rights or anything like that. No. This is about keeping it closed so we can, if it's stolen, it could at least be plausible. Right. But her speech is not working. So now we have to go to get some tea. And this is,

30:44 my name's, what is her name? What is her name? Just that fast. Yeah. We're going to hear talking, you mean? Yes. I don't know. Hold on. I got to look it up now. Hold on. It's her colleague. Tasha Kay. It came back to me. Tasha Kay. This ain't T. This is wine because her and her wine ones, she has one of the biggest followings for T channels. There is. She gets all the big interviews. Is she local? Is she a local? She's local to Atlanta, yes, but she also has one of the most potent followings on YouTube. Okay, she's a TikTok YouTube lady.

31:28 Yeah, and she got sued by Cardi B for millions of dollars for defamation, but she didn't relent. She just keeps coming. So she's saying that black women are not buying it and they're abandoning Fannie Willis, Fonnie Willis. Sex explosive allegations. And the story's swirling around Fulton County District Attorney Fonnie Willis. In a new court file. This is seven. Oh, I must skip over. Yeah, I think. Yeah, excuse me. All right. You want me to hit eight instead? Yes, please. If you do that, and then we come back to seven. Yeah, sure. What about Nathaniel's wife? Fanny? All that money you allocated

32:11 tricking on a prosecutor tricked his wife out of $1,400 a month alimony payments and even took some of it back using the debit card out the same account that he put the money in from contracts he allegedly you for where's the justice for this black woman when she's saying i've been married to his ass for 26 years raised his charren and he's somewhere is he somehow find a way to get a to get around the law to only pay me 700 every two weeks and then he splits that with me this is the one you

32:50 getting up on a church podium here to stand beside that's the problem women findeth men how you in church talking about when i found this black man you didn't find him he's you full way up that's just that's just what it is and you didn't think that they was gonna find out but i'm just like where's the justice for this black woman over here that helped to build up the very man that you are enjoying right now for the small price of 630 000 every year for the state's money now who paying that money we have we got questions we got questions

33:36 oh yes this is she's in hot water now she's in very hot water she is in very hot water because her normal base is turning off her turning off it's cracking it's her foundation is cracking cracking up under her feet and she understands once she's rendered ineffective she will be out with yesterday's trash where's this has this guy spoken at all this uh wisely so no okay that's too bad i'd love to hear him oh well let me tell you there's no win for him because he's he's going through it with his wife he has these allegations and then he's on the hot seat of coming after 45 savage so there's no there's no win for him and i would like to

34:25 ask him a question what did you expect yeah all of her bootleg sisters didn't didn't want this job, and you took it. If you come to me and her whole platform is elevating women, especially black women, elevating women, and this coveted position of going after the quote-unquote biggest races in history, right up there with Hitler. You know what I'm saying? And nobody wants the job. That would have sent off alarm bells to me, but he was sleeping his way up. So he had to do what he had to do to get where he wanted to go. Now, there's some questions about his wife. What her motives are, and is somebody putting a battery in her back.

35:10 Seven. Sex explosive allegations. And a story swirling around Fulton County District Attorney Fonnie Willis. In a new court filing, Willis says the wife of the man she hired to be a special prosecutor is interfering with this case. The document alleges special prosecutor Nathan Wade's wife is using her divorce case to impact the Fulton County case, investigating former President Trump for meddling in Georgia's 2020 election. Atlanta News first political reporter, Doug Riard, in his live tonight, outside the Fulton County Courthouse. Yeah, very soon, guys, just a couple of weeks, a judge today said that D.A. Willis will have to go into the Fulton County Courthouse on February 15th and be there in person. He was very specific about that to go ahead and respond to these allegations of an improper relationship with the man she hired to be a special prosecutor.

35:55 But we'll know more before then. He also ordered that she had to written, respond to these in written fashion by February 2nd. And so that wasn't the only court filing that we got today. You just mentioned it a moment ago, but a few hours after we learned about that court date, Willis's attorneys made another court filing accusing Wade's estranged wife, Jocelyn, of interfering with this case through that divorce proceeding. The filing says she served Willis with a subpoena to testify in the Wade's divorce case to, quote, embarrass and harass her. The document even went so far as to accuse Jocelyn Wade of conspiring with defendants in this election indictment to derail the case altogether.

36:34 Oh, okay. So the question is, did this guy's wife, the woman scorned, did she approached by 45 Savage's team? That's the question. Which I would, if I was a Betman, my money would be on yes. Yeah, I'd say yes. But at the same time, I'm sure she wasn't, she didn't have to be her arm twisted to go along with it, if that's how it played out. Because as you stated, a woman scorned, especially as she's giving you 26 years of her life. Well, she, of course, is being abused by the other side now. I mean, she's going to get abused by them.

37:16 Because she thinks that she's doing good and the subpoena and all that, but it may not end with that. I mean, there'll be a lot more hell to pay. I think she has a lot to gain because he was hiding money. So this helps hers. Like, she may have not had the resources to follow the money trail. Are there any kids? Are there any kids in this marriage? That I don't know. I didn't really get into the personal part of it because just out of respect. Yeah. Right, right. But what I'm laying out is the fact that all these outside forces coming in to say to him, hey, you want a job? You know, if this was a shoe on the other foot where a woman, a man in power was doing this to a married woman and pulled her away from her husband.

38:01 Right. Yeah, we know. There will be no understanding for the man, you know, for either man in the situation. But the fact that it's this way, you know, the media and the political structure is softening the blow. So that's the whole Fonnie situation. But there's more to it. Okay. Because at the beginning, when Fonnie first started holding her grand jury, there was this weird girl named Emily Kors that came out. You might have remember her. She was the grand jury for a woman.

38:40 She was vaguely vaguely. So let me bring you, let me refresh your memory. This is the view reacting to her media tour. Okay. So remember, do you remember after Trump lost the election and he was caught on tape? He lost? Yes. And he was caught on tape telling Georgia election official Brad Raffenspergo. Right. This is what he said. I just want to find 11,780 votes. Remember that? Okay. Who among us? Trump still denies he did anything wrong, of course. But the special jury in the investigation into whether he and his minions tried to overturn the election results are recommending indictments.

39:20 Last night, thank you. night, the jury for person could barely contain her excitement on CNN about what's going to happen next. Take a look. Did the grand jury recommend indictments of multiple people? Yes, it's not a short list. I mean, we saw 75 people and there are six pages of the report cut out. So we're talking about more than a dozen people? I would say that. Yes. Did you recommend charges against Donald Trump? I really don't want to share something that the judge made a conscious decision not to share. I will tell you that it was a process where we heard his name a lot.

40:04 When this list comes out, you wouldn't. There are no major plot twists. She'd be keeping her big bazoo shut, this girl. I mean, why is she going around talking? She wants attention. You know, everybody is a Kardashian now. Everybody wants attention. And that's what this is about, I think. Well, I think she called that right. But did you hear the crowd's reaction? Yeah. They weren't on board with her. Because that's that. She's not one of us. She's not a chosen entertainer or celebrity. She wants to be a Kardashian. And the crowd was kind of because normally the crowd goes claps and like seals whenever

40:45 the end there. Let me hear the end. There are no major plot twists. She'd be keeping her big bazoo shut. This girl. I mean, why is she going around talking? She wants attention. You know, everybody is a Kardashian now. Everybody wants attention. And that's what this is about, I think. Yeah, you're right. What was that? I mean, just me, just me listening, you know. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like that's usually that was a punchline. It's supposed to be laugh. Certainly was not the desired response. Right. So maybe they're over there thinking in the view audience, but they will not be asked to return as audience members.

41:27 No, you laugh when we say laugh. You should be laughing. Yes. So this is when Sonny chimes in, which Sonny's on the hot seat too. Yeah. I'm going to forewarn people because I might not be. Here's your colorism coming back in, I'm sure. I might not be around when the shoe is to, well, I'll be around, but you know what I mean? Like, to, you know, fully dis well, you know what? I'm going to fully discuss it when it happens. It's going to see a mass exodus of color off of these stages, off of these shows, out of these positions.

42:04 And what's going to happen is you can't go fully back to a white male and you're definitely, and you're definitely not going to put a black male in there. So it's going to be go to the white female. Oh my God. Yeah. This was a, this is, this is how it's all. This is how affirmative action first played out. We'll let the first batch through. They'll prove to be inadequate for the simple fact that we didn't choose qualified people. And then when that happens, we have to settle with the middle ground of a minority, but it won't be a racial minority.

42:47 Right. So Whoopi, Sonny, all of them, you're going to, I think you're going to see after 2024, if the election doesn't go successful according to their plans, you're going to see a mass firing of a lot of people, especially women of color. So a colored women, as I like to say. Yeah, we're still on that. I know. So this is Sonny chiming in with part two. But I think that she could destroy this case. I will say I was thoroughly enjoying the interviews, you know, like everyone else. I was giggling and cracking up and stuff.

43:24 But then when I put my federal prosecutor hat on, I was like, oh no, she's compromising the integrity of the investigation because the grand jury and any grand jury investigation, especially the federal ones, are secret proceedings. And they're supposed to be secret proceedings. You could get fired as a prosecutor for leaving a deposition out in your office or taking it home and not putting it back in the locked chamber. Like it's so serious because people die. Witnesses have died when their testimony is released. And so the fact that she's like giggling and joking, I'm surprised. I know that the judge gave them guidelines and said, like, don't name names.

44:07 But if you're like, it's about 60-something people, we heard Trump's name a lot. I mean, you know what's happening. And it's just, I think she looked a little excitable. Excitable. Okay. So this, I believe this is one big blunder because Fonnie Willis arresting Trump, getting him a mug shot. We saw the reaction of the quote-unquote streets. He's one of us now. Right. And now you put him on the same side as Young Thug against Fonnie. What were you thinking? You know, this is great. Yeah.

44:51 Yeah. That is. Wow. And a swing state that you need to win. That's the other. That's the home of hip-hop, too. Home of hip-hop, you know. Right. Southern hip-hop. Yeah. That's good. But just elevate. But there's more. Just elevated 45 Savage even more by putting him on the same ticket as Young Thug. Right. But there's more. Of course there's more. Of course. When you start to look into Emily Cors, she has a very interesting background. And this may be a show history because I think this is the first Tim Cast clip being used.

45:33 Wow, where we're playing Pool Boy on the show. Uh-oh. Yeah. Mini Man. She's a witch. Incredible. Yeah. Her bonkers Pinterest account, which promotes witchcraft. Ploning witchcraft does not make you a witch. Practicing witchcraft does. Does she practice? Thank you for clarifying. That was a 20. That is technically the truth. Thank you very much. Literally the truth. Oh, so is this like a is this like a an ad for us to read about how to become a witch? We're going to learn how to become a witch today. She's totally into witchcraft. Oh, yeah. I want to learn the spring bowl. The pentagram. Emily. Charlie Kirk says Emily Corr is the four person on the Trump grand jury in Georgia really putting the witch in witch. Oh wow. Yo, we're in a simulation. I'm sorry. You can't. I'm sorry. We're in a simulation.

46:18 Can you go back up to the first picture? You're not going to convince me this is that all of this is just like random chance. Moon. That Trump is like, it's a witch hunt. And then they actually have a jury four person who's a witch. And that's who they choose to interview. And that's who they chose to interview, too. Hold on a second. How do you choose a grand jury four person who has an Instagram about witchcraft? I might have an answer for you, but are you ready for this? Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready. Well, we have to go back to show 26

46:56 12. If you like to participate in the ritual that's been making the rounds online, members from the Coven of the Raven Moon say this is all you're going to need. But they tell me the ritual they're doing here is going to be a little bit different. Witches from the Coven of the Raven Moon say they're doing their part to make sure America doesn't end up watching its own horror story. So it is the end-all squash all of all negativity. And that's a beautiful thing. At midnight, covens from around the world will be lending their energy to cast a spell on President Trump. High priestess Amy Jean Goosland says witches from her coven will be using a ritual that will help keep negativity out of the old office. Basically what the spell does is it prevents the person in question from being able to draw energy from any negative sources.

47:41 And it prevents the person in question from being able to project energy that is going to have negative or hurtful outcome on other people. And while the effects may not be immediate, sometimes things can happen as soon as the next day, instantly, sometimes three months from now. Members of this coven say the binding spell will make room for more positive energy to flow into the White House. We do actually have coveners who are Trump supporters. They would not have a need to feel binding him was a hindrance because what it's going to stop him from doing isn't anything they should want him to do anyway. These covenant say it's just a matter of time before we see what's in the cards. Good health and prosperity and abundance for everybody.

48:23 And that I think that it is all there to be had for all of us. And all hail Coven of the Raven Moon. Blessed be the witches. Inflamm Miranda Parnell, NBC 25 News. Wow. I forgot all about that. Yes, the Coven. Woo! How many more were on this grand jury? How many are in this? Is this a coven? That sure sounds like it. I just find that strange that they have this witch, and this is their best case. And they roll her out, interview her, knowing her past,

49:06 knowing that she has witchcraft past. And it's no problem. Like you even said, you're saying, how does this happen? How does she even become? first of all, how can you be on the grand jury? Because they have selection. Right. I think. Don't they have a selection process for grand jury? I would think so. I mean, because you got to wheel it down to a certain number. Get to weed out the nut jobs. Well, they did a poor job. Unless it was by design. Purposeful. Yeah. The witches have been after Trump for a while. I mean, ever since episode 26. Yes. Ever since then. Yeah. Wow.

49:49 So that's the end of the first block. Okay. Thank you, Mo. This was good. I feel very up to speed now. I can't wait for the next development in the Fonny Winter saga. All right. So moving to the next block. This is topic change, everybody. Topic change. Have a drink. Have a drink. Get some water. Get some, you know, have a sip of coffee, bourbon, whatever you need. We're going into a new topic. This is what potluck is all about. Yes. So this is B Block B. And this is cocaine versus sugar. Woohoo! Okay. Do we start with the first clip? What do we do? Yes.

50:29 These days, it's the talk of TikTok. I just started dropping pounds left in right. The topic Ozempic has over 300 million views. Yeah. Being on this medication has helped me tremendously with my health, with scores of users crediting the drug for their weight loss success. Ozempic is a drug you inject that's meant to improve blood sugar and help manage type 2 diabetes. But because one of the side effects is weight loss, many are using it off-label, a trend that may have started in Hollywood. Talk show host Andy Cohen even recently tweeting, everyone is suddenly showing up 25 pounds lighter.

51:08 What happens when they stop taking Ozempic? Since Ozempic's gone viral on social media, some doctors like Nancy Ranama say they've been flooded with inquiries. It's become something very hot and heavy in Los Angeles, Beverly Hills. Ozempic's active ingredient, semeglotide, works by making you feel full longer. Doctors say it's similar to Wagovi, which has been approved for weight loss by the FDA and is produced by the same manufacturer, Novo Nordisk. When we asked the company about people using Ozempic to lose weight, it responded in a statement writing in part: We do not promote, suggest, or encourage off-label use of our medicines.

51:52 The company adding Ozempic and Wagovi are not interchangeable. However, the FDA tells NBC News healthcare professionals can choose to prescribe drugs off-label when medically appropriate. Well, this is good because this is my beat on the No Agenda Show. So I'm very interested in this. And I'm hoping that we have a melanated opinion on this because that's the one thing you don't see is you don't see black women or men on the shows talking about Ozempic. Well, they're definitely being targeted. I know, but that's not what you're seeing. Except for Oprah, which has a whole other story, but otherwise, you just don't see that.

52:33 It's all white women. Correct. And what took my interest was there was a local news story that they were just promoting it at the same time when they know about the side effects and possible impact of the side effects. Pancreatic. Pancreatitis, all kinds of bad stuff. What's it called? Lifelong diarrhea, blockage of the intestines, all kinds of weird stuff. At the same time, I saw a news story and then they deleted it because I went back to find it because I put it on my watch list. They were promoting it to black women. Ah, I would have wanted that one. Yeah, no kidding. Right, right. I mean, it was like, it was a matter of days. They pulled it.

53:17 It was Atlanta. Once again, Atlanta. Well, especially because when they use the term sugar as opposed to diabetes and pressure and words like this, that to me is, I mean, I've learned that from the show, that is targeting black people. Remember Big Mama? So-called black people. Remember Trump's, what was it, health? The bald black guy. And he was like, do it for my do it. What's that? Do it for Big Mama. For Big Mama. Do it for Pop Pop. Oh, man. Hold on a sec. Where was that? Pop. Oh, do I still have that? Pop.

53:57 While you look it up, I'll tell you the reason why I brought that up was because he also too used the term sugar. And I thought instead of diabetes, that's a cultural. word that's used, you know, interchangeably for the word diabetes. But the thing I find interesting is this: we're going to sell you diabetes drugs so you won't catch diabetes. I mean, that's that's what they're basically saying. Oh, yeah. It's like, please don't worry about what you're eating. Right, but we're just cutting to the chase. We're getting straight to the point. You're going to be on it eventually if you keep eating that way.

54:37 So why don't we sell it to you now? But I think there's something. This is just my, once again, speculation. COVID-19 vaccine side effect, one of them is weight gain. I remember this when I was doing the coat, doing the research for the COVID shows was weight gain. Then you have also, you have being locked down as a side. Fast food as an option. Right. Yeah. Fast food. I think I have the pop-pop thing here. Hold on. Okay. It's less likely to be under control and are socially predisposed to coronavirus.

55:19 Avoid alcohol, tobacco, and drugs. And call your friends and family. Check it on your mother. She wants to hear from you right now. And speaking of mothers, we need you to do this, if not for yourself, then for your Abuela. Do it for your granddaddy. Do it for your big mama. Do it for your pop-pop. Yeah, baby. Do it for your big mama. Do it for your pop-pop. Yeah. All right. So what we have here, we have, I think this Ozimpic thing is just part of the binary death knell.

55:57 That, and it's a great cover-up because if you have people start dying, especially Hollywood celebrities of heart problems. You can just say, oh, Ozimpic, Ozempic, Ozimpic. Right. We can't, we don't know. It could have been the, we can't tell. It could have been the COVID-19 vaccine. We're seeing this now. We're seeing the medical community completely confused about the rise in cancer, particularly colon cancer, part of the gastro system, colon cancer in younger people born in the 90s. And they say, well, we can't figure it out. It could be something in the gut. It could be something in the air. We have no idea. We can't figure out what it is.

56:36 We have no idea. This is what they're constantly saying, but they can't deny the deaths that are taking place. So maybe this is more accurate, more actual than you think. So this is just like, I'm just going with Occam's razor here. If I was on the other side of this, this would be great. It covers the weight gain from COVID vaccine. It covers the heart problems. And also, we can't be sued because you can't say you took Ozempic. Yeah, it's a shot. It's a shot. But I think the bigger issue is this: how we look at people that are addicted to food, food addicts.

57:20 We love to call them all kinds of different other things in this. They're sugar addicts, really. It's sugar addicts. Well, it's a couple of different things. There's sugar, there's salt, and there's also crunch, which we talked about the Bliss point. And I'm going to get there in a little bit. But what I want to do is listen to the patients because I have a couple of clips of actual patients. And to prove your point that you just made, black women are not represented in these clips of people that suffer from food noise. Drugs like Wagovi and Ozempic are two medications that have become popular for their weight loss benefits.

58:00 And their increased popularity has put a spotlight on terms like food chatter and food noise. It's the idea of being preoccupied with food or eating. And while the medications can come with a hefty price tag, patients say the drastic change in their relationship to food is worth it. I'm Kathleen and I live in Mississippi. I'm Casey Mason. I live in North Vernon, Indiana. My name is Nancy Barnes. I live in New Iberia, Louisiana. In a year and a half, I have lost 107 pounds between taking Ozempic and Mongera. I thought everybody was like me and was hungry 24-7. Thought about food all the time, thought about that cookie you didn't eat or you did eat.

58:44 And I had no idea that there was such a thing as a normal appetite. The food noise stops. If you're a binge eater, the noise in your head stops. It is just so unbelievable. It ruled my whole day every single day. As soon as I woke up, what am I eating? As soon as I went to bed, I got to have. ice cream before I go to bed, or I got to have the cereal, or I got to have the snack. I just don't think about food anymore. Yeah, in my research, of course, this food noise came up as well, and it's a real thing. And people were emailing me. It's so true. I have food noise. It's just, it's an addiction. That's what I had an addiction to tobacco.

59:25 And my favorite was tobacco with some holy herb. And I would get the herb noise. I get, oh, yes, time. And I would actually smoke instead of eat. So it's totally real. That's what an addiction is. Alcohol noise, Coke noise, you know, whatever it is. Yeah, that's in your head. That's what addiction is. And from my research and from my own personal experience. But why is it that we say one addiction is okay? Like, for instance, like we talk about Hunter Biden, oh, crackhead. He's a crackhead. He's a crackhead. But then you look at Chris Christie. He's a food head. He's a food head. Well, no, the reason is because the two go hand in hand.

1:00:09 What do you mean? The food industry and the pharmaceutical industry. The food industry keeps people sick, and the food and the big pharma keeps people barely alive to eat more of the sick food. They admit this. I have clips somewhere, but they admit this: that those two go hand in hand. They are the ones that are lobbying together in Washington, D.C. That we need more of this crap in food. Okay, that's good. Yeah, we can approve that. That'll be FDA approved. And then we need this stuff to, you know, to keep people alive from eating the crap. I'm paraphrasing, but that's. No, I'm agreeing with it. I'm agreeing with what you're saying. So let's go back to the second part of food noise, and then I have some commentary on the back end.

1:00:51 So, first off, I'd like to ask you if you could define what food noise is, according to physicians, and what causes it. Food noise or food chatter isn't a medical term per se, but these are patients, people who experience kind of constant noise in their brain. So they have a constant craving mind for food. So it's despite hunger, and it doesn't necessarily relate to their weight either. So their food cravings kind of rule the day. They may have just eaten and they're looking forward or thinking about the next meal or the next snack. And as patients are being started on medications like Ozembic, like Wagobi, like Manjaro, for the first time in their lives, they're experiencing a quiet mind.

1:01:33 They're going throughout their day without this constant food noise, food chatter. For some people, the food noise is constant. For some, it's non-existent. Is there some biological reason that some people experience different amounts of food noise? Well, I believe that there are a few reasons why we experience it. Number one is: I believe since our bodies are adapted to keep us basically exactly where we are, the status quo. So somebody who has insulin resistance, a patient who's struggling with obesity, will have more of those hunger cues, less of the fullness cues. And so they may have more of the food noise and food chatter throughout the day. So biologically, we need to give ourselves a massive break because it's physiologic, it's brain science.

1:02:20 Brain science. Brain science. Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine. Yeah. That's brain science. And it may be true. I know we've mocked that clip, but when you listen to these people talk, it's like a smoker. I'm going to say a crackhead. It's like, did I smoke that last rock? Where's my next rock coming from? And I'm being facetious, but I'm saying that it's amazing how in our human brain, we can mock people for certain addictions, but then other addictions, they're seen as sympathetic. And, you know, how about the whole movement of fat is beautiful and it's a disorder.

1:03:03 You have a disease and you're healthy. It's healthy. It's healthy to be this fat. This is all part of it, Moe. This is all part of the psyop. And you laid it out yourself that there's these two factions that say make them fat and then we're selling pills. Make them fat. We're selling pills. They need propaganda. So they say, hey, how do we, you know, how do we spend this that big is beautiful? Not saying that everybody needs to be the same. That's not what we're saying. No. What we're saying is the same way. Lizzo is not healthy. Period. Period. And what I'm saying, I can't speak for you, is that why is it that we're not sympathetic to people that are overweight the same way we are saying, oh, the crack epidemic was created.

1:03:50 You know, crack was created. You know, it was manufactured. Yeah, well, yeah, you're right, because I am very sympathetic to it because I see exactly what's happening. I feel horrible. horrible for these people. I feel horrible for everybody because we've all been subjected to this crap that we're eating. And the real issue is the cognitive dissonance of how we see one junkie and don't see the other junkie, but at the same time, we're sympathetic to one junkie, but not sympathetic to the other junkie. Where in our mind do we get that from? I would say propaganda is how they spend these things.

1:04:29 And really, we're the victims because we should see these things the same way. We should see sugar just as bad as crack or cocaine or fentanyl. We should see salt the same way. I'm sure those two things have way more bodies than heroin. You know, and have a walk through any airport in the United States. Take a morning flight, and all you see is morbidly obese people lining up in front of Cinnabon, all that's available. Look at what's available at the airport, and people are just zombified, just waiting in long lines. Oh, I can't wait to get it. Can't wait to get it. Tina and I talk about this all the time.

1:05:14 It's caffeine in there as well. You heard people, of course. Starbucks on every Starbucks is nothing but a crack house. Absolutely. And they line up around the corner. What do you think that new McDonald's thing is all about? You know, the new, what is it? Mac Astro's, whatever. Yeah, I remember. I remember hearing about that. Yeah. What that is, is sugary drinks that are highly TikTokable and that feed the addiction. And it's a drive-through. It's perfect. It's perfect. It's got everything. I'll do you one better. We've gone to even not what's in the cup, the cup itself. Look at the Stanley Stanley Cup addiction. Yes. Yeah. They're fighting over cups.

1:05:59 Yeah. Yeah, I know. So, people, you are being propagandized. If you don't think the last show was important, I think you need to go listen to it again because you are being propagandized 24-7, 366 days a year on a leap year. And look at any cable television station at night. We don't really watch much anymore because we're just binging old shows now. You'll see fast food, fast food, fast food, pharma, farmer, pharma. Fast food, fast food, fast food, pharma, pharma, pharma. And what is the pharma? It's weight loss and SSRIs. Because when you starve yourself of nutrition, you're starving your brain of nutrition as well.

1:06:41 This is why idiocracy is not such a crazy thought, not such a crazy movie. We are eating ourselves stupid. Now let's go back to brain science since you brought it up. We have to do a recap of what the bliss point is. And this is the secret of sugar. And make no mistake, the amount of sugar in our food is no accident. The food industry goes to great lengths to figure out what makes us crave a product. The exact combination of ingredients it calls the bliss point. You know, everybody asks, what is the bliss point? Dr. Howard Moscovitz. He's a longtime food industry consultant known as Dr.

1:07:23 Bliss. The best way I can do it is to give you an example. Do you drink coffee with the sugar or with milk? With milk. So if you add more and more milk, you like it more and more, up to a certain point where you like it the most. And then add a little bit more milk and you say, oh, it's too milky. I'm like, gosh. And add a lot more milk and it's horrid. So it's Goldilocks. It's the middle. It's the best one. It's the level where you like that product the most. A Harvard-trained mathematician, Moscovitz uses models to test people's reactions to different versions of a product.

1:08:01 Once he's found the bliss point, the product hits the shelves. From soda pop to spaghetti sauce, his magic makes money. Wow. Yeah, that's so good. The bliss point. Totally, totally spot on. I mean, I drink my coffee black. No sugar, nothing, just black, black, black. I'm a victim of it. I'm a victim. When it comes to coffee, my coffee has to be a certain way. And that's my point. We all have our addictions. Yes. Yes. And they know how to cater to it. I was going to say, so my once a week, I go, I play chess with this dude here in town, and we go to Java Ranch, and I have a cappuccino.

1:08:43 And I have a cappuccino. So I drink my coffee black all the time. I have a cappuccino. I put in one packet of raw sugar. And dude, I am cracking myself out. And I know it. it. I know it. I'm like, oh, I feel so good now. And I'm playing some chess. And it's my bliss point right there. And not two packs, sugar, one pack and the milk, whole milk, which I never have in my coffee. I'm drinking my crack totally. Well, I'm not to trump you. You know what I'm saying? No, it's okay. You put with addiction. But me and my wife, she bought this cappuccino powder from Sam's Club.

1:09:22 Powder. Why don't you just snort it? Yeah, powder. Powder. So one day, it's sitting in the pantry forever because none of the kids drunk it or whatever. I think she brought it for like smoothies or whatever. Nobody drunk it. So I was short creamer one day and I put it in there. And my brain said, whoa. Yeah. And now we can't go without it. So it is brain science, actually. It's true. It's brain science. We travel with this stuff. Little bags of it. Little dime bags. Yeah. It's like, do you want some coffee? It's like, no, we'll wait till we get home because we got it. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm just saying that to say that we're all victims.

1:10:06 Nobody escapes. Well, it's true. Some people out there escape, but they have, if it's media, if it's content, they have your number and they know how to feed it to you. They know how you want it. And that is what it is. So let's go to the what the title was: cocaine versus sugar. What's more addictive? Cocaine or sugar? You'd think the sweet stuff found in cakes, breads, sodas, and chocolate would be easier to give up than a substance so dangerously addictive that it's illegal, right? Well, you might be surprised. In 2007, researchers at the University of Bordeaux conducted a study where they equipped rat cages with two levers.

1:10:48 One lever gave the rats an intravenous hit of cocaine. The other gave them 20 seconds to drink sugar water. Before beginning the tests, rats were allowed to sample each lever twice to see how they liked it. Once the tests began, 94% of the rats chose the sugar-sweetened water. Interestingly, rats still preferred the sweetened water, even when the researchers gradually increased the cocaine dose. When comparing the brains of food addicts to cocaine addicts side by side, the similarities are undeniable. MRI scans of the brain's activity reveal a massive spike in dopamine upon initial craving.

1:11:24 High levels of anticipation, but low levels of satisfaction on consumption. Basically, food addicts want sugar more than they actually enjoy eating it. No, I got to play it again. Oreos are just as addictive as cocaine. Yeah. And I think that's the supporting science behind that clip. Totally. You know, Tina went all carnivore in November. And, you know, I kind of went along, you know, from time to time. I like a potato. You know, so this is not a problem. Lots of friends of ours are all carnivores. I like meat, no problem. But then, you know, we'll go over to a friend's house and they'll have a dessert. And she had, this was the other night, and she had a dessert.

1:12:10 I'm talking like a brownie and then some cream with strawberries. She woke up in the middle of the night with heart palpitations, brother. Heart palpitations. Because she has no sugar coming in. Very, very lightweight. That's what I tell her. You lightweight. Yeah, but and it bowled her over, you know. And the same as with wine, there's sugar and wine. There's sugar in potatoes. There's sugar in all kinds of stuff. There's sugar in meat. Of course there is. Of course. So it's, yeah. And I think you're so spot on with saying that this brain science is being applied to social media, to algos, is being applied to everything.

1:12:50 The bliss point is known. Well, I've played that clip before in the previous show where we discussed the bliss point, but this is what happens when you only listen and you don't actually watch the video. This time I actually had to watch the video and this is chart. At the bottom of the chart, it says ingredients, sweetness, spiciness, and then there's a third one, texture. Oh, yeah, taste and texture. You bet. Texture is a big one. Which I think the crunch, the sound itself gives you a Pavlovian response.

1:13:26 That's why they said with Lacey Chip, you can't just eat one because when you crunch down on that chip, it fires off the Pavlovian response in your brain to want another one. In fact, the commercials even have even accentuate the sound. Exactly. And with pouring cereals, the same thing. Everybody knows. I just said it. Hey, snap, crackle, and pop, kids. Right. Right. But it goes even further because even the packaging itself, I think that's why they went to this full crinkly bag for all snacks. The reason why I noticed is, and I didn't pay attention to this until I started owning a dog.

1:14:07 Oh, yeah. The minute you put your hand into that bag that has that little treat, the dog is like, comes from wherever they're at. From 100 miles away. Yes. Yes. So what they have us doing is if the bag don't get you, then the crunch gets you. So basically, we're eating the bell and the Pavlovian and the Pavlovian response. We're eating the bell. And trust me, I've, like I said, I've seen this and I even done it with the dog. Like I just touched the bag and here he comes because he's associated that crinkle with the taste. Now I have to make a confession with all this, you know, just to show I'm not participating in the cognitive distance.

1:14:52 If people don't know is I bought a snack distribution business. I'm part of the problem. I'm proud of it. Right. And I've noticed like being on the being on the block. Yeah. You know, like in wire terms, you know what I'm saying? When I'm on the block serving, I see women and men come down the aisle who's given up their legs for wheels. Oh, brother. Due to diabetes. Diabetes, yeah. And whatever else, whatever their ailments are, but they have to have their drug of choice.

1:15:29 And it's not like, oh, I'll just take another. No, they want their specific drug of choice because their brain has been tuned into a frequency. So if you want to help me stop selling drugs, support the show. Donate, donate. I'm sorry, mama. I went all these years. That's right. That's right. Repent. Yeah. No, but it's even the way the grocery store is set up. It's chips. Yeah. On the other side of the aisle is sodas. And let's not forget the colors. The packaging is Disneyland, brother. You come and look at all those colors. Ooh, kids, kids. Yeah. And it's triggered by the cartoons they see and everything.

1:16:13 It's all a big psyop. All of it. And the way the grocery stores are set up, for the most part, you know what I'm saying? I'm in the store. So it's a format. It's a format. It's a format. You have salty. Then you have the sugary drinks on the other side. They're on the same aisle. Because you want. But just salty and the sugary drink to offset. Bing, bing. Then the next aisle is cereal, which that's for the kids. You know what I'm saying? Get your kitty crack. And then on the next, on the other side of the aisle is candy. They're letting you know. You're sitting there putting the candy and the cereal on the same aisle. And honestly, Americans, we have been victimized because our taste buds are fried.

1:16:58 Fried with capital F. And I didn't realize that till I started working with people outside the United States. And I'm like, Jesus, you know what I'm saying? How could you eat that? And it's like, eat what? You know what I'm saying? It's something normal. And it's like, it's too sweet, like you're saying about Tina. You know what I'm saying? And once you either haven't been introduced to it or abstain from it, it becomes, you know what I'm saying, very intolerant. It becomes apparent. Yeah. Then you, then you see how poisonous it really is. And, but what do they blame in the red? Oh, take the salt off the table. I'm not, you know, salt has its own issues, but it's not like sugar. And it's not the salt and the product. That's the thing. It's like, it's not the same salt as when if you cook something, you add some pink Himalayan salt to it to taste. Yeah. Yeah. It's not the same thing. This is definitely not the same as the food. No.

1:17:42 No. And that's what's what MSG is. MSG is a form of salt. Yes. You know, it's a, it's a, it's a salt derivative, which actually literally affects your brain and makes you think what you're eating is tastier. And they tell you to stay aware. But see, even with the branding, it's like, oh, MSG. We know. Oh, stay away from MSG. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, but have MSG. Have the sugar and salt. Right. Which actually salt gets a pass because nobody really talks about salt like that. Even like if people are aware, they say sugar, maybe because diabetes is more apparent, you know, when you suffer from it with the obesity that comes with it.

1:18:22 But salt gets a pass. But it's amazing how we see that. But I want to go now and to saying they found out that Ozempic not only cures fat, cures more stuff, more stuff. There's been an explosive amount of buzz around the drugs Ozempic and Wagovi. I'm super excited with the 50 pounds that I've lost. Stories of dramatic weight loss. loss plastered all over social media. Baby, the hype is real. The medications, both containing the compound semaglatide, make people feel fuller faster. But something else interesting seems to be happening. Countless testimonials online describing side effects, positive ones that aren't related to food at all.

1:19:05 No longer have any desire to drink alcohol, someone writes. Another says, I used to vape like a demon. Quit cold turkey. This person comments, I used to buy scratch off and lotto tickets. I don't even think about it anymore. So technically, like my official diagnosis was morbid obese. Jamal Corona started taking Wagovi over a year ago, losing 60 pounds since then. But that wasn't it. I would say one drink for me is equivalent to about four or five drinks. And how do you feel after having that one drink? I feel miserable. Corona once considered herself a social drinker. Not anymore. Something in your mind is saying,

1:19:48 I'm just going to bypass. You have no interest in alcohol. The Atlantic now asking the question: Did scientists accidentally invent an anti-addiction drug? I got two stories before we move on. So, first one, when John Cedovorak and I did our first kind of big vaccine discovery back in, I want to say 2010, maybe 2012. It was like a Goldman Sachs medical conference, and everyone was presenting. They had it online. So I just downloaded PowerPoints and was like, vaccines are the future because A, you can't get sued for them.

1:20:26 B, we're going to have vaccines for anti-smoking, anti-cocaine, which, of course, has nothing to do with what used to be the traditional, they change that in the dictionary, what a vaccine used to mean. And it was great because we're giving people medication before they're even sick. But they were talking about exactly this: vaccination against, and make no mistake, these are vaccines. You know, they're injectables. The second point is, I was on Glen Beck a while back, and this was before this was kind of known. And I'm saying, brother, you know, they're saying that this stuff cures alcoholism.

1:21:11 People don't want to drink anymore. And he says, dude, as an alcoholic, because he's been, you know, a non-drinking alcoholic for 20 years, maybe. He says, what just came out of your mouth scares me to death. And he's right because this is going to, I mean, for me, the logical conclusion is there's only two ways it can go. Either the food industry starts to kill people and blame it on Ozempic, which may be happening for other reasons, or they find a new bliss point so we can sell even more sugar.

1:21:54 And then this stuff equalizes it somehow. So you can keep people even in a closer bliss point. Something is going to happen because we can't have people not using the products anymore. This has been a big Wall Street topic. And that's where I think Ozippic is being lined up because they're stepping on a lot of toes. Big time. Even though it's a big problem itself or potentially a big problem itself, you're stepping on the alcohol industry's toes. You're stepping on the food industry toes. Tobacco industry toes. A lot of heavy hitters that's been along Brown for a long time. And they're looking at even with snack. I think there was a report saying Walmart noticed their snack sales are down

1:22:38 across the board. You just can't come in and start stepping on people's toes like that. And that's why I was like, maybe they're lining them up when people start falling dead, potentially, maybe, possibly, of side effects from the vaccine. It's like, oh, no, that's Ozippic. We warned them, you know, because it's going to be a significant overlap of people to both. Let me ask you a question. Are you noticing any decline in the business? I can't say I am. Okay. So, I mean, because it's probably more, I mean, but when you look at, when you zoom out and Walmart says, I mean, because it might be Walmart is saying, oh, don't worry about it. I mean, yeah, we're seeing a decrease, but those people buy other products.

1:23:22 Well, what they're saying is you're going to have to route your drugs throughout Dope House, aka pharmacy. That's what they're saying. We're going to take a hit. You know what I'm saying? We're going to take a hit on the front end. You got to give us some action on the back end. Yeah, we'll make it up at the pharmacy stand inside Walmart. Yeah. that's all it is. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's just, and I know we're being flippant about it, but it's true. Yeah. So, quick, I just want to cover this when there's really no commentary needed, but this next clips just show you the cognitive dissonance I've talked about. 19 tonight at West Columbus McDonald's is back open after it was shut down by the health department. Inspectors were sent there to investigate a customer complaint of finding drug paraphernalia in her order bag.

1:24:07 Tintib's Lindsey Mills is live outside Columbus Public Health with more on what inspectors found that led to the decision to shut it down. Lindsay, Yolanda and Andrew, Columbus Public Health says it went there on that complaint and it discovered that there was a failure to protect food and equipment from contamination due to ongoing construction. Well, that issue has since been resolved. They say the store has reopened, but it was that customer complaint that sent them there in the first place. It's not what a West Columbus mother was expecting to find when she picked up her order at McDonald's on Harrisburg Pike.

1:24:55 So she found a crack pipe in her McDonald's bag. And the health department comes in and shuts McDonald's down. Now, all of a sudden, you find what? That's the funniest thing. We're shutting down this drug found in the other drug deck. Right. That's great. That's fantastic. I just thought that to be weird. Now they're picking choosing of it. So let's just go through these next four clips because to know the future, you have to look backwards. You remember Finn Finn, right? I sure do. I sure do. Are we looking at Fenfen 2? Well, I want to refresh people how FinFin played out, and then maybe we can see predict how the future is going to go with Ozempic.

1:25:35 Short break coming up, and then the first Illinois lawsuit over Fenfen. Meanwhile, with all of the concern over Fenfen's safety, doctors are now turning to another popular drug as a diet alternative. The first Illinois lawsuit's been filed against the makers of Fenfen. A Chicago law firm filed a class action suit today. It comes after the Food and Drug Administration last week urged the recall of Fenfen because of studies that link it to heart problems. The manufacturers knew about these problems when they tested it, experimented with it in Europe. In some European countries, actually banned the use of Fenfen because of the adverse reactions.

1:26:16 He says thousands of Americans may have been injured by Fenfen and not even realize it. No reaction yet to the lawsuit from the manufacturers. You know, okay. Some side data here. This, the main drug, Wagovi and Ozempic, is from Novonordisk. They're from Norway. That company now has a bigger income than the GDP of Norway. Pfizer failed to make this drug. I'm thinking it would kind of, and of course, right now, you know, they spent

1:26:56 in the last six months, Nova Nordis spent $750 million on advertising in the U.S. in six months advertising this drug, which a lot of what you see, hey, Doc, you know, here's America's favorite doctor. Oh, this is great. And there's always a little disclaimer on the side. Yeah, well, I killed some mice, but who cares? Just mice. I'm thinking that the American companies, they may be the ones to trigger some pointing to the death. Because, you know, what did Pfizer make? The death jab. Now you're picking up what I'm putting down here. Oh, yeah. They made the death jab. So, well, clearly, it's got to be something else.

1:27:38 It's got to be the Ozempic that's killing everybody. It's the cure-all. It's the magic shot, not the, you know, saying pun intended, but it's the, it covers our mistakes. Yep. It eliminates our competition. I think you're making an excellent assertion here. And then we could come back with, you know, with the, with the, you know, the American, the American form of it. Yeah, something that works well. Yes, exactly. Just to move on. I didn't know that information that you gave, you know what I told me about how much money they're making off of this. You know, it's enormous. Yeah. I mean, that's why, you know, Pfizer's stock dropped like a rock when they said, oh, well, our version of

1:28:25 Ozempic failed. You know, and these guys, they'll put anything in a needle. You know, they're like, they don't care if it fails. So what is this all about? Oh, no, we're no good at failed. And then, of course, because I've been following this home, the Wall Street stuff. I was like, oh, no, if you don't have one of these, this is the platform. This is the drug of the future. This is what everybody's talking about. This is where all the money is. All the money's here. Until it becomes FenFen. And then, and that, that's the smoking gun for me: is that Pfizer failed. Really, Pfizer? I mean, they'll put anything into a syringe. It's similar to how they did with, what was the other one? The other vaccine company. I can't remember the name of it.

1:29:09 J and J. Moderna. Moderna. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, all of a sudden, this small company out of nowhere, it's like the test balloon. It's like, so when you start assuming people are getting bad press, everybody associate mRNA with Moderna. Moderna. Yeah, which, you know, their literal name. You know, they came up with the mRNA. That's Moderna. Or did they? Well, it's like, let's kick it over to them. It was actually, yeah, well, you're right. You know, you're right. There are a lot of people who claim involvement and claim patent rights, but it's Moderna's problem when it goes wrong. So there's one group that we left out of this. And in this next clip, this is from Ginny Jones, 1997.

1:29:52 Just to give people the timeframe when Fin Finn was really, you know, a big thing. And I remember this. Because I was, you know, in business and I remember the lawsuits. I was still kind of in television halves and show business. I remember all this stuff. I remember it very, yeah. Fin Finn worked. Because I had a friend, you know, that's overweight. And he took it. Luckily, he didn't, you know, give him, I doubt I know of, didn't give him any side effects, but it actually did what it was told to do. But in this next clip, it's going to highlight one group, which we haven't mentioned yet, because you mentioned the doctors and you mentioned the food business people, the lawyers. And then two, it's also going to highlight the fact that the people taking the drug may not care.

1:30:39 Probably not. So you could have heart damage and not have a clue that you have it. That's correct. And one of the purposes of the class action lawsuit is to set up a fund so every FenFen user can at least be properly tested to see if you have heart damage. And put Tethany in your pocket. Amy, it's you again. Disgusting. I'm so glad that you're on this panel because you make me sick. My God, if I was stricken right, Jenny, if I was stricken right now with PPH and they told me you're going to die because of Fenfen, I would not sue them because I was properly warned before I took it. The doctors didn't even know this when they started prescribing to the doctors.

1:31:20 What this woman brought out before is what the manufacturers want you to think. That 18 out of a million is the warning label that you sign will have minor symptoms. What the studies that are coming out with are alarmingly higher. You may not know that you have a heart problem right now or heart disease or pulmonary problem because you haven't been properly tested. It's an echocardiogram and that's the only way you're going to know it. This happened in Europe before. There was an epidemic between 1967 and 72. They banned it from European countries. Within 10 years after the epidemic, 50% of the people had died. These are facts. Yo. Repeating history. Yeah, yeah. And I'm actually just reading in the book of knowledge.

1:32:04 And Fenfen also purportedly could remit alcohol and cocaine cravings, all the same. I mean, these were this Fenfen was more of a serotonin type thing, but it's all brain science. It's all working on your brain. It is. Same stuff. Same idea, same concept. Right, because I don't think food is a nutritional issue. And it's a brain issue. And I'll say from the reporting, we've also seen some counter or pre-counter messaging, which is whatever you do, don't take the fake, don't get it compounded from a pharmacy, you know, the GLP one, the samaglatide, which, you know, you can get

1:32:51 samaglotide. Don't buy it from Canada or India because you'll die. You know, oh, it's not properly dosed. We have our special needle, our special applicator. So a lot of this is going to be when people start keeling over. Well, they didn't take the good stuff. You know, they took the bad, the bad stuff, the off-market, the black label stuff. That's what you're going to hear. That's going to be their first defense. And it's going to be a bonanza for attorneys, as was Finn Finn. Yes. Is that Rocco? Yes. Hi, Rocco. You know, the crazy thing? You never used to hear him before. The sound quality is. Did you rustle a bag or something?

1:33:33 Because he's ready for something. He's ready. He's ready for. No, that's his other trigger, the delivery truck backing up. Oh, yeah. Beep, beep. Yeah, Phoebe's got the same. And you're right. We never used to hear Rocco. All right. All right. American Greed. In Kentucky, three lawyers are helping themselves to the lion's share of a class action settlement involving the diet drug Fenfen. William Gag, Shirley Cunningham, and Melbourne Mills have won a $200 million settlement against American Home Products. Of that $200 million, just $45 million. Less than a quarter of the settlement has gone to clients.

1:34:15 The rest has been pocketed by the lawyers. It was extremely deceitful for the attorneys to take money away from people that were in such a vulnerable situation. I mean, this wasn't a lottery that you play the lottery and a big sum of money comes in and you ought to be happy what you get. These were people who had injuries. While their clients continue to suffer from heart problems related to Fenfen, the attorneys are living it up. The two lawyers, Cunningham and Gallion, immediately use their newfound riches to entrench themselves in the two most dominant elements of culture in Kentucky. One, horse racing, and the other, University of Kentucky basketball.

1:34:56 They become major donors to the university in exchange for the permanent right to buy front row seats at basketball games. They also become partners in a racing stable. In the home of the Kentucky Derby, Cunningham goes one step further with a 135-acre horse farm proudly displaying his ownership for the world to see. They felt like that they were untouchable. They had everything they wanted. They had everything they needed. They had racehorses. They had airplanes. They had farms. Yeah, well, it's America, baby. So that's the third leg of the stool. That's the third leg of the stool right there is the lawyers. And we got a lot of them.

1:35:37 And they're ready. They are ready. And they missed out on the whole COVID bonanza, COVID vaccine bonanza, the way the law was written, you know, where you couldn't sue the company. So they're... You know, I'm curious now. I wonder, is Ozimpic? What's the question I'm asking here? Is Ozempic eligible under vaccination laws against lawsuits? It's a long question. Let's see if I can get any answer. Hmm. I wonder if it's if it's because I think it has to be

1:36:19 classified as a biologic. Well, you just inspired a thought in me because you put the Pfizer on the table, which I didn't think of. Will their version of it fall under this protection? Oh, that's a good question. This is 23? No, no, no. I'm asking you. I mean, because I never had that thought until you inspired it, that maybe that's their like their lane. It's like, oh, Ozempic, bad, but we have the addiction vaccine, which is the same science, but it falls under that potential. Here it is. This is GoodRX Health. Ozempic

1:37:01 semaglatide is an injectable medication, so it's an injectable for type 2 diabetes. It is not considered a biologic. So I think it's only the biologics that are exempt from lawsuits. So that'll be the fall of Ozempic and the rise of Pfizer's replacement. Very possibly. Very possibly. So the last clip in this set is: when you get a bad package, what do you do to it? You step on it. It is the hope of tens of millions of Americans struggling to shed pounds, a drug that is safe and really works. More than two out of three adults, 68% are obese or overweight in America.

1:37:44 But finding a safe pill has been elusive. But there's news on that front tonight. And here's our senior medical editor, Dr. Richard Bessert. It's a dietary supplement that curbs your craving. It is a holy grail in medicine. A safe and effective diet drug. There is a need for a new diet drug. Obesity is a serious health problem in the United States and worldwide. Unfortunately, we have very few treatments that are effective and safe. Cunexa is the first of three diet drugs being reviewed this year. In preliminary results, Cunexa was shown to reduce weight by 12% in patients taking it for a year. The pill taken daily. combines a seizure and migraine medication with fentramine.

1:38:28 And if fentramine sounds familiar, you're right. It was half of the fen in the recalled diet drug Fenfen. Uh-oh. Though fentramine was not implicated in the serious side effects, including heart valve failure that led the FDA to pull Fenfen in 1997, the FDA will certainly be focused not just on whether the drug works, but on whether it is safe. If someone is promising something that is so powerful, so magic that can cause you to lose weight, it probably has other consequences. Surgery is still the treatment with the most clear results for obesity, but it isn't without risks. And ultimately, experts caution any solution promised by pill or scalpel. Drugs cannot replace diet and exercise.

1:39:14 So this is half of the Finn. Yeah. They just repackage it. I love it. So I think that's looking back over 25 years, almost 30 years ago, we had Fin Finn. If it holds true, I think this is how it'll play out with Ozympic. Wow. Short Novo Nordisk, everybody. Not financial advice, but I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Wow. They got a lot of enemies. They got a lot of enemies. Yes. Yeah, they do. Wow, wow. Well, we got a lot of friends, so you want to thank some people? Sure do. The white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro.

1:44:40 All right. So now we're in the C-Block. C-Block. This is another one of your beats. Aviation. As you notice, you know what I'm saying? All right. Hey, yeah, I get to participate. Okay, good. And this is black skies. Black skies. So we're going to cover African, quote-unquote, African Americans in aviation. The first clip is 25. That's correct. Meet Airline Captain Rochelle Jones, First Officer Stephanie Grant, and flight attendants Diana Galloway and Robin Rogers. When they worked that ASA flight from Atlanta to Nashville this month, they never expected to make history.

1:45:18 In fact, it was happen chance. And the original first officer became ill and was replaced with Stephanie. And then when I got to the cockpit and I saw Rochelle, we just met a few weeks prior. And I was just ecstatic when I saw her there. We did not realize the historic ramifications of it. We were just like, okay, this is going to be fun. But Captain Rochelle Jones got it right away. She and Stephanie in the cockpit, Diana and Robin in the cabin. All black, all female. I said this could be a first for us. So let's be on our P's and Qs to make work even easier, even more fun.

1:45:58 Oh, yeah. It was, I think we had a little more pep in our step. The pride, the pride. I think we were just so proud. Oh, it's one of the major sins, ladies, pride. Careful. Careful. So this has been all in the news of these black flight crews, black female. If you notice, this hasn't been about black men or even non-white men. This has been about black feet. This is how they lead. But I would like you to know that this clip is over 15, almost 15 years old.

1:46:36 Good one. Excellent. They're rehashing. They're rehashing this because they have no, and I say they, the people that's interested in propagandizing black people or so-called black people. This was Obama era. Now, is this, but this clip is 15 years old, right? At least. Yeah. It was posted. It was posted to YouTube 15 years ago. So it could be older. Well, I can give you a little data on DEI in aviation. Okay. So I know a lot of military guys, Navy pilots, Air Force pilots, a lot of Navy pilots, actually.

1:47:15 And when you leave service, and you're usually around 40 years old, you've done your time. I mean, service in America is great because you get half your salary, you get a housing allowance for the rest of your life. So you can live very comfortably doing another job. And so what do you do as a Navy pilot? You want to go and fly. This is what you do. And you can enter at a certain level. But I'll tell you, you can work your way up if you're flying a 747. This is $300,000, $400,000 a year. These are very, very good jobs.

1:47:51 The problem is that all the airlines, except for, I think, the transport, so DHL, FedEx, they're not in on the DEI. But, you know, so you go to job fairs where, you know, the specific aviation job fairs, unless you are gay. black, or female, you are pretty much guaranteed not to get a callback at all, regardless of your qualifications. I have five to ten examples of that in my email from pilots who have confirmed this with me. So, so they are hiring based upon external factors.

1:48:38 Gay not being necessarily an external factor, but that's what they are looking for first and foremost. And typically, they have less flight hours and possibly qualifications than the people I know. That said, I have flown with many women. My most recent flight instructor, Amy Lynn, young woman, 24, one of the best pilots I've ever flown with. So, there is no distinction between a good pilot and whatever you are. You're a good pilot or you're not a good pilot in my book, period. Once again, from the first blog, either you're qualified or you're not qualified.

1:49:22 Right. It doesn't matter. But the reason why I want to talk about this is a couple of different things. One, I think these airlines made a lot of pledges during the super duper DEI period, you know what I'm saying, 2020 and around the era. They had to do, I think, as part of their bailouts. Correct. So I think they said they wanted to get it up. Well, we'll get to the numbers that we get into the clips, but they wanted to see an increase in those groups you specified. My issue is who they're using as the lead in this whole push. Now, once it's all said and done, we'll see that black female pilots will be discredited

1:50:07 due to this story. Of course. And their counterparts, whether it be gay people or women, non-black women, will actually reap the benefits. Now, this is 14 years ago. I think these women actually earned and were qualified, you know, to get because it wasn't during the woke period. Now, I do think there was a bit of propaganda in this because all of a sudden the captain gets sick. You know, it's kind of like, hey, Tom, can you help us out? You know, we're trying to make history here. And it happened during Black History Month and Peak Obama.

1:50:47 Yeah. So I think there was that, but I don't think these women were unqualified. That's the alley oop, man. Right. Yeah. So fast forward, I think a lot of these people are unqualified because they're trying to meet the numbers that they set through the D, the DEI. They are certainly less qualified. Just less flight hours is literally less qualified. Well, let me explain my definition of unqualified. If you're less qualified than an other qualified person, I ain't taking the chances. And that's the other part I want to get to. This is where people can pat you on the back and, oh, yeah, we're team black.

1:51:31 We're teen, you know, that kind of thing. But when you have somebody fly you through the air at four, five, six, I don't know, 600 miles an hour, how fast the plane goes. You want Sully is what you want. You want Sully every single time. Right. Or Disney or Washington. I don't care if he's on blow. I don't care. He landed at Didney upside down, but he landed it. Right. I don't care. You know what I'm saying? You could be on the set, whatever. As long as you're, you know, you're going to get me from point A to point B. So I think, but you can't, you can't buffalo your way out of this one because there's only two people in control of that plane. Now we have to stop being what Neil Fuller calls tacky. You see what I'm saying?

1:52:13 Because before it's like, oh, we can put somebody in this VP position, you know, and build a barriers around them and safety rails so they can't run the company off the off the rails. Right. But in this situation, this is way different because are they qualified or aren't they qualified? And I think the other comparison would be doctors. When we go into, you know, you open up my chest and, you know, and tinkering around in there, I don't want somebody that's marginally qualified. I want the most qualified person. So that's why I want to bring it up. But once again, as you brought up with Joyanne Reed's hair, I think this is to bait people into the conversation so then they could be pointed as, you know, however you want to paint them as.

1:53:02 So excuse me, I said pointed, but paint them as however you want to paint them. So I think there's a bit of, there's plenty of propaganda, but I think there's. there's also some trolling into this because it pulls you, you know, saying it pulls you into the conversation. So, let's finish the second clip from 14 years ago, and then we'll get into some more recent clips. Their history just happened to be during Black History Month. I was tingling about it. This is great. It's like spectacular. It still hasn't hit me now. So, I was just excited. I called my mom, my family, and I said, Guess what happened today? Rochelle is the lynchpin, one of only 10 black female airline captains in the country.

1:53:43 She used to be a customer service agent for Delta. Piloting was never on her radar until a friend suggested it. And it paid off. And this was my goal to be here where I am today. And I'm so happy on what I've accomplished. As little girls, they'd never seen anyone who looked like them piloting a plane. But now, for other little girls, they're proof. You really can be whatever you want to be. Fate may have a little bit to do with it, but for everyone that will look at us as role models or look to aspire to be what we are today, they need to know that it was hard work and dedication to get here. Young girls need to see that, yes, they can be flight attendants, and yes, they can be pilots.

1:54:27 And the sky is the limit, literally. Yay. Okay, so something I want to point out is the title says all the African-American female flight crew, but everything they said after that, girls, girls, girls. The race portion dropped off of it. So, this is that we opened the door. This has been a running theme for the life of the show. We open the door and end up holding it for everybody else to know it.

1:55:05 Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Proof. And what it's going to end up doing is going to discredit qualified male and female pilots that happen to be black. And see, this is where in a system of justice, you will have 13% of the population. You will have 13% of the pilots represent us that are qualified because it'll be just a normal distribution. Yeah. The fact that you actually have to nudge the numbers and manipulate the numbers, that's the real problem. And this doesn't help anybody at all. No, no, luckily, Boeing is doing a fine job of

1:55:50 screwing up aviation. So right now, all focuses on that. You know, because they got bolts missing and all kinds of stuff. Yeah, like a wheel fail. It's like something every week, right? It's like a wheel falls off here. Well, I think it was a plane fly was on fire in Miami. It could have been aliens. It could have been 10 feet tall black aliens. I mean, but who knows? It happened to be a Boeing plane that was a GE engine. But yeah, I mean, we literally have an airline today saying, we're going to start looking at Airbus. I'm already suspecting sabotage at this point. It's like we've been looking at that fight for a decade, you know, Airbus versus Boeing, because it's big money.

1:56:31 You know, it's big money. Well, I stated a long time ago when we had a brief conversation about aviation that I think they're trying to get rid of the riffraff off of commercial airlines because commercial airlines have basically just turned into greyhounds. Yeah. If you look at how history of flying was, you used to have swear suits and white gloves for the girls. White gloves. Yeah. Yeah. I had a tie on, sure. So I think they're, but I think they're losing the battle because the way the system is made built up, they had to have the volume of flights. Well, there's also, I mean, you just go on TikTok and see, you know, people like fighting and yelling at

1:57:13 cabin crew and all this stuff. It's, you know, the decorum has just gotten out of control. Have you ever been to a Greyhound station? I mean, like, that's literally. Yes, I have. It's been a while, but yes, I have. And then when you factor in also what they're doing with the migrants and airports, is commercial aviation in this iteration over? And it's actually, because I mean, traveling on Greyhound used to be a semi-pleasurable event or, you know, when it first acceptable. So I think that's where we're headed. And I'll continue on where I think it's going to go. But what you're seeing, Mo, is you're seeing airlines like Jax, JAX,

1:57:58 which so those guys, they bought regional jets. And so basically. it's 20 or 25 business class type chairs in one plane. And you don't go through the regular terminal. You go through the general aviation, so where the private jets are. So there's no TS. Goggles, Curry. Oh, brother. I'm sorry. Never fails. I was waiting for one of those. Okay, I got my goggles on. You in this future. There you go. Let's go ahead and get into the news, quote-unquote, news stories

1:58:38 that they're running about the first black fill in the blank. Whether it's inside a United Airlines flight simulator or flying the friendly skies, Mollis Ward has soared to new heights in aviation during her more than three-decade-long career. You know, I never started my career thinking I'm going to trailblaze. I always just felt like I was going to do my job. In 1998, she became the first black woman captain at United Airlines and the first in the U.S. to fly commercial airplanes. But even before flying with United, she was a pioneer, the only woman to graduate in her Air Force pilot training class and the first black woman instructor pilot in the Air Force.

1:59:17 People saw me in my flight suit and they were like, wait a minute, are you here for pilot training? I'm like, yes. They're like, we've never seen anyone like you. So that was the first time I had an awareness that this was something groundbreaking. She is now dedicated to bringing other women along for the ride. Yeah. Like they said, 1998? Yeah. What are we doing here? That's 10 years earlier than the clip of the all-black flight crew. Okay. Yeah. No, I'm just saying, I'm just showing you that we're celebrating that. This is what they call a nothing burger. Yeah. But it's used as propaganda and it's not used.

1:59:59 One group might use it to celebrate their accomplishments, but the other group takes it as, see, you know, and I think them taking it like that is part of the plan because then it puts you in the part of, oh, you don't like black pilots? Are you not think black people are competent? Yeah, which that's not the question at all. Basically, the airline industry has been taking competent people for a long time, regardless of what they look like. Correct, because you wouldn't have these stories. And believe me, I want an ex your Air Force pilot. I don't care if you're purple. You're from the you flew you flew Air Force. You're good with me. I don't think anybody thought about that, you know what I'm saying? Before now.

2:00:42 And that's the point is that they're causing, I want to call it faux outrage, but it's manipulated outrage. Let's go with that term. Well, and I'm noticing this. So there is outrage coming now. And so there was this incident that took place a couple months back. And I actually avoided the clip on No Agenda. And I just, people kept emailing me, it's DEI. Look at this. You might have seen this clip. So it's between an examiner with someone who's going for a commercial check ride. So two competent pilots. And he asks for a particular procedure, which is short final, which actually can mean different things in different situations, different types of aircraft.

2:01:28 What he should have said is, hey, I'm doing a check ride. We're going to do an engine out 180. We're going to land mid-runway. But he didn't say that. And then, so she's expecting him. And it's a busy airport. She's an air traffic controller. She's in the tower. And she's expecting, she says, hey, you should be turning. And then they both get into an argument on the radio, which is unprofessional in general. But then at a certain point, she says, look, I googled what this means. And it's a point of contention. And because she said that, people lost their minds. This is DEI. She's Googling. She doesn't know what she's doing. This lady was very competent at her job.

2:02:09 As an aviator, I could say that. So it's being the women in particular, but maybe black women are now being scapegoated just for DEI. Red meat. Yeah. It's all red meat for, and of course, DEI is crap. We don't want DEI in our lives. But now we're just taking anything. And then a very competent woman who got sucked into an argument on the radio, which she just neither one of us should have done, nor the examiner. And they're both FAA employees, basically. You know, it's being touted as DEI and people are freaking out about it.

2:02:48 So everything now is anti-DEI, which is good, but not everything qualifies as DEI. Right. And that's why I said DEI was stupid from the beginning. beginning. And it doesn't actually help. It actually hurts anybody. Because, yeah, it gives you the green light or the justification to disqualify whole swaths of people because of how, at the end of the day, corporations chose to run their business. Nobody went in there with a gun to these airlines' heads. You know, maybe they did the Jesse Jackson thing, like, we'll do, you know, make you seem like a racist if you don't. Maybe. But it's like, at the end of the day, do it. I'm going to run my business the way I'm going to run it.

2:03:32 And if you feel like that will work, that's fine. But then you're going to have to justify me hiring unqualified people. And what this is, is just a bigger symptom of weak leadership, is what this is. And the fact that the airlines in the United States are tied to the government. They always get bailed out. So, you know, there's semi-government organizations. Well, could the government have the now we just open another can of worms? Could this be government inspired? Yes. The same way vaccine mandates work. Yep. Yeah. Once again, it's not the people. Once again, it's not the people that's reaping the

2:04:14 alleged benefits. Look at the vaccine mandate with the airlines. Look at how many pilots quit. They said, I'm done. I'll go fly somewhere else. I'm not going to fly for your airline. I was impacted by this because due to the CHIPS Act, it's like if you want Chips. Same thing. Yep. Then you got to do the vaccine. Yep. Right. So let's go ahead and get into the second part of the number 28. There is something about Treilblazing that's important. And it's not about the status for yourself, but it's about the opportunities for people behind you. She plays a part in the ascension of female pilots. She is a flight evaluator at United

2:04:58 Pilots. Now, what's the title? Now, this is the actual title of the video. Meet the first black female captain on a major U.S. airline. Why put black in there? And after that, you're going to just talk about female, female, female. I think the algos pick it up quicker. Maybe. Just saying. All right, you can continue on. He is a flight evaluator at United's Flight Training Center and helps recruit through the United 88 Academy. The flight school plans to train at least 5,000 new pilots by 2030 with the goal of at least half of them being women or people of color.

2:05:38 My job is to make the road wider. Color people. No, listen. Now, I want you to listen carefully what they said. 5,000 new pilots and half will meet females or people of color. Or gay, I think as they said, also 2030 with the goal of at least half of them being women or people of color. My job was to make the I got gay from you. Sorry. Not like that. Trust me. But that lends to what you were saying. They're going to clip that. And then the people behind me, the job is to make the road smoother. And so it should continue on and continue until there are no more roads anyway. I mean, that's literally a quota.

2:06:21 They have a quota. That's what they have. They have a quota. And that quota came from the government. Trust me. 2,500 of the 5,000 have to be female. Or, no, no, it didn't even say that. Or. That's what I'm saying. Female or. Yeah. So that's that. You could hire 2,499. Well, no, it ain't going to happen. I know what you're saying, but you can hire 2,499 white women and one black man, and that satisfy the quota. And no black women benefit from this. No, it's 5,000. It's 5,000, Mo. Yeah, they said 5,000, and then half of those. Let me hear that again.

2:07:04 Yeah. And then the people behind me, the job is to make the road smoother. And so it should continue on and continue until there are no more roads anyway. And no one is talking about. Hold on. Let me go back. I want to hear it now. It's by 2030. Flight school plans to train at least 5,000 new pilots by 2030 with the goal of at least half of them being women or people of color. My job was to make the road wider. And then the people behind me, the job is to make the road smoother. And so it should continue on and continue until there are no more roads anyway. And no one is talking about this because we've done it all. And she has cleared the runway for the next generation of black women pilots to know this flight path is possible.

2:07:50 Back to black now. You rap with black. You're going to say, start with black. End with black. Make it wide. Open to everybody. And like, like this 5,000 number, I don't even know why they threw that number out there. Why don't they just say they have a quota of hiring 2,500 minority pilots? So I'm highlighting people. This is how you are propagandized. The 5,000 number is unnecessary because it doesn't add any value or context to what you're saying. Just say 2,500 and then say amongst these groups. But no, they lead black, widen it out, and then rap black. Yep.

2:08:32 And guess who's going to be left holding the bag? Every time you hear, every time, and I'm going to jump a little way. Go ahead and get 32 ready because I think we need to jump. You know, I just want to jump where we're going here because I think when people hear black aviation, this is what they think: 32. Announcing the arrival of the first airline with Sol. Welcome aboard. Thank you for choosing the Soul Plane. From the time you arrive at the gate. You doing good? You feel wonderful. Till the moment you meet the crew.

2:09:14 I am at ease, ladies. We make sure you have an unforgettable flying experience. Keep out this little safety video we put together for you. Now that you got on, I'm pleased that you'll be missing. Better just do everything you ain't missing. Sit tight and enjoy the flight. Kevin Hart. Mayday. Mayday. Tom Arnold. Oh, hey, D.L. Hughley. Dave. Sorry. Well, I guess you can't have the lightning without the thunder. Method Man. Monique. And Snoop Dogg. What the hell's going on here? Man, I'm afraid of heights. This is wonderful. I love this freaky stuff like this. That's it, the Toronto. The party is non-stop. Oh, no, you can't use that ball.

2:10:00 They say that to rip you off. Soul blame. I don't know what you got in there, but we're going to find out. You want to say something? You want to say something? I've never seen that. That's what's imagined now when you hear DEI. And what it really was was 3T Airlines, tacky, trashy, or terroristic. That's what it was. And I think that's what the imagery they're trying to paint. So I got one more. I got two more clips. One, I want to show you 31. You can go ahead and queue it up. This is going to show you how bad off they are scraping the bowl for news stories on this topic.

2:10:42 This is Delta Flight Attendant works with. It's not a historical feat. It's just she happens to work with the first. Well, tonight, let's head out to Hartsville-Jackson International Airport. There's a live look for you. It was a regular day at work for Delta flight attendant Felicia Kay until she showed up for her flight at Hartsville, Jackson, and she saw something she says she'd never seen before. We knew that our particular crew was African-American. We do have that periodically. And then our captain showed up, and he was also African-American. And that's what basically blew us away.

2:11:21 We had not had that dynamic before. Yeah, Felicia has worked as a flight attendant for Delta for the past five years, but she says this was the first time she and her coworkers had ever flown with an all-black crew. And we've had an African-American crew, but we just hadn't had, we all had an experience having the pilots as well and having the entire crew be African-American. So it made me feel amazing. It made all of us feel amazing. And we felt that we wanted to capture that. Yeah, a lot of people agreed. Over 100,000 people have reacted to Felicia's post where she shared this special moment.

2:12:01 Felicia says she's excited to see the moment happen again, thanks to the diversity of Delta offers. That's really cool. You can see why it did so well on Soul. Yeah, thanks to the diversity that Delta offers. They're still using it as a marketing club there. How is that special when people have experienced it before that she's working with? How is it special? Well, it's not. It's bull crap. In fact, now, now, let me tell you. Now, I have my own issues with aviation, which we'll get to before this next clip or after this next clip. So the CEO of United Airlines, he comes out and he's in drag

2:12:42 and he's like, oh, and the whole drag crew. And my wife, who is very open and liberal. liberal, she says, I'm flying to New York to see her daughter. My stepdaughter, she's like, I'm not flying United. Screw those guys. If that's what they're concerned about, what are they not concerned about? It's working in the opposite now. This is backfiring so massively, it's going to be a huge problem. You still just want good pilots and you also want good cabin crew because they are not there to serve your peanuts. They are there to get you out safely in an emergency. That's what that's their job.

2:13:20 That's all. That's it. And I think, like I said, I for one, I try to fly as little as possible. I try to leave the ground as little as possible. I'm not against flying, but I mean, I just, this is an unnecessary risk for me. Well, I've been a pilot since 2004 and 2004, 2006, long time. And with what's happened ever since COVID, we have a shortage of pilots. And, you know, pilots can fly 100 hours a month. So the end of the month and the beginning of the month, you're always going to get delays and cancellations because they literally don't have the flight crew.

2:14:05 And so maybe part of whatever this is, I just, I am sick and tired of delays. I've been sick and tired of TSA and this phony, you know, especially now that, hey, what, you got no papers? You're an immigrant. Come on through. No problem. We got a special line for you. I'm so sick of it that I went back to flight school and I went back to get my instrument rating so that I can fly for, you know, within 700 miles, I will fly myself. Now I take a flight instructor with me at all times as a safety pilot because I'm not 20 anymore. Right. And it costs me

2:14:49 $250 a flight hour. So it's not cheap, but it's not a private jet, you know, which will cost you $5,000 an hour. And I have flexibility. I, you know, they'll pick, they fly the plane from Bernie, which is nearby, right to our airport here. I hop in and, you know, Tina is okay. She's not super happy. I mean, she doesn't, she likes getting into the plane on stairs, not over the wing, but okay. It has a parachute. This is what I always tell. It's got a parachute, baby. So it's okay. Because I'm sick and tired of all this crap. I'm sick and tired of the safety record. I'm sick and tired of the DEI. I'm sick and tired of the phony TSA.

2:15:33 I'm sick and tired of all of it. So I am lucky enough to be able to opt out because I've put a lot of time, effort, and money into getting my pilot's license. And before we move forward, I would like to say shouts out to George, a good friend of mine, black guy, pilot. You know, he just, and he's the one like, he didn't do it in the military or whatever. He just picked it up. He was like, hey, I'm going out to the, you know, take some classes. He went to flight school and got into the industry. And we're very, very, we need more Georges, believe me. Yeah. So I'm just saying, like, this thing is like, I know a guy that did that. So it's not special, you know, you know.

2:16:13 But this is where you quoted a number of $5,000 for a private jet. Per hour. Per hour, right? They're bringing it down. And this is where you can take your goggles off. 33. We have this entire private jet to ourselves. And I'm going to show you how I got it for just $500. I'm Mike and welcome to Danny Live. They say the app is like the Uber for private jets. We're going to give it a try. I mean, in ways, it is very simple. You simply type in where you want to go, what dates you want to fly it, and it gives you a list of planes that are available for you on that date. And then you just pick the one that you want. But to rent a plane is still thousands of dollars. So how do we get a private jet for just $500? Well, that's my favorite part.

2:16:57 You see, this flight takes advantage of a little something called a deadhead. When you charter a plane one way, the plane and the pilots still have to get back to their home base. Usually, it flies empty. That's called a deadhead. But Airbull has found a way to connect us with those empty seats at a hugely discounted rate. It's actually really clever. The whole experience front to back, being able to go curb to curb in no time flat. But here is our terminal. I mean, it looks like a small, cozy, and rural airport terminal, but what I'm realizing is there's no one else here except us. What do we need to know about flying private? She's never done that before.

2:17:37 So the pilot will come in. If there's any sort of customs, luggage information, baggage, he will sort that out for you. Then you guys are escorted out and on. your way. Okay. How many, how much, how many liquids? How much liquids can I bring? Thankfully, no limitations. No limits. Okay. Thanks. So? Yeah, I actually built a business on Deadheads with helicopters. So I'm very familiar with this. It's not quite as easy as the YouTube video makes it look. I mean, you can't even get these deadheads from Austin on these apps. I've looked at all the apps. I've really done the diligence.

2:18:14 You're very beholden to times when they happen to be flying back and forth. And yeah, it's, I mean, yes, you can definitely have that experience for very little money. Now, typically, there's a lot of different variations of it. There's a lot of flights where you'll wind up on a nice private jet. There'll be eight other people, you know, and they make it kind of a club atmosphere. But yes, this is happening. The other version is Jax, which I mentioned earlier, which flies between Austin, Dallas, Houston, Atlanta. I think they've added Florida. And they have daily flights. And, you know, it's about 500 bucks each way.

2:18:57 So you're getting a very, I mean, honestly, it's not even about the in-flight experience as much as it is about not going through the regular airport. And that's the thing I was pointing out. And I think it's not only going to be about private jets or private AA. Well, it's going to be about private aviation. That you're going to have these little clubs. Yep. That's already happening for sure. Right. Where, like, we talked about with the policing. You're not satisfied with public provided policing. You have privatized policing. So I think it's going to be the same. I think this is going to be the model of future for everything. Agreed. Whereas we're not satisfied with what state level government or even federal level government is providing us.

2:19:40 We'll have our own planes and groups and we'll work together in small groups to avoid limitations. Like in the clearly said, no limitations. That's going to be the whole thing. That's right. No, it's that's that's coming. That's here. It's going to be affordable for a large group of people. You don't have to be super rich anymore. And you're right. I mean, we're seeing what you what you talked about years ago about policing. Yeah. Oh, it's it's here. You know, it's like, oh, here in Fredericksburg, are we going to have private police? You know, you got a gated community. Good. You got you got off-duty cops working there, working the gate, no problem.

2:20:19 And then in the poor neighborhood, which we don't have here, but you know, go down to Kerrville, drones, drones, and eye in the sky, and everything. Oh, yeah. You were right, Mo. Sadly, you were right. But that's. Yeah, I didn't want to be right. Especially from LA. That's where it is. That's a bittersweet thing. I don't want to be right about these things. But I mean, it's what's the most logical thing. So it's what it is. So that was the end of C. I guess we can thank some more people. We will. I like brand new money. I just, I don't want any money around me. It's not. I'd almost rather have a new one than an old 20. That's kind of dumb. But there's something about new money that excites you. You like $100 bills? Oh, yeah. I like old money too.

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2:24:31 Josh ain't jumping in. Mo, you're saying they'll take him at convention after Trump wins primary, but something happens in between. No, what I'm saying is that I believe that you see how hard they're going after Trump with this whole Fonnie Willis thing. Oh, yeah. I think he has enemies on both sides. And I think the natural step in will be Josh because Josh was better than any of these people. Nikki Haley. I mean, look at who they put up. Nikki Haley, Ron DeSantis. He would have been more competition for Trump. And he has the, he's been a good soldier to Trump. And he has the January 6th credentials. So he would be the best person to step in if they decide to get rid of Trump.

2:25:17 That's my theory. Well, right now, the whole world seems to be 45 for 47. And I think that's the problem. Really, the Republicans don't want the headache of having what you call a lame duck Trump. Did you hear this hidden microphone video from Carrie Lake? Yes, I did. What'd you think? The Boulevard. What did you think? That's the Boulet phone. Like, hey. Well, no, she got the Boule phone, but she said no. Yeah, because she understands that loyalty to 45 is better for her than a bag of money.

2:25:57 What do you think about the timing of the release? First of all, it was professional. So this was not a mistake. This is not an iPhone under a jacket. This was professionally recorded. What do you think about the timing of it now? I haven't looked that much into it. What are you thinking? VP? Possibly. VP all the way. I mean, because everybody showed their hand against him, so you can't use any of those people. And it shows, and it also blows up the GOP. Look at how corrupt they are. And she would be an excellent debate.

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2:28:02 Thank you all so much for supporting us here at MoFax with Adam Curry. Again, you can do that with a modern podcast app. Go to podcastapps.com. Yep, we got the domain. Grab one. There's 15 of them that have this capability. And of course, we appreciate your fiat fun coupons, your PayPal, which we end Cash App, and we accept a couple of different ways, even checks at the P.O. box. Go to mofax.com directly to the donation page, which is mofundme.com. And thank you again so much for your treasure on MoFax with Adam Curry, episode number 96. So we're into the D-block, and we wouldn't be a show without our

2:28:42 show favorite Nilly Fuller. So what he's going to talk about is he's going to talk about the term affirmative action. Just to, it's kind of a bridge between C and D. And then we're going to talk about why words are important and then also a propaganda. So this is affirmative action. Yeah, this wraps it all up. This wraps up. This wraps it all up. Actually, this wraps, and actually this wraps up the last show in this show because hopefully you've seen these are war tactics to keep us busy not talking about the things that we should be talking about and at the expense of other human beings. All you can say is this point that

2:29:25 affirmative action, all actions are affirmative, or they couldn't be actions. And that there's two types of affirmative action. And that is affirmative action for white supremacy and affirmative action against it. And this asks people, what, you know, which stand are you going to take? Now, in addition to that, I'm going to say this. The term itself never should have been coined. And everything was doomed when we allowed that term to be used with no definition. Because now everybody who's a left-handed tennis player can ask for affirmative action. That's what everybody started doing. See, the gay rights movement and everybody else asking for affirmative action.

2:30:07 Same thing that happened with civil rights. All rights are civil, but it wouldn't be rights. See, so anytime you slide it away from the white supremacy words, you're going to lose it. Yeah, this kind of wraps up a whole bunch of MoFax shows in general that right there. Hopefully so. And like I said, it's these terms. We've talked about words being violence. And I think that's a hard concept for people to accept. But words are violence. When people lie to you, that's violence. And then also when they play mind tricks on you to make you lie to yourself, that's the most dangerous kind of violence.

2:30:54 Interesting because, you know, I would disagree when people say, you're being mean to me. Your words are violence. But in your context, I don't know if it's violent. Maybe I would agree with violent versus violence. No, I'm saying the actual, we've looked it up before. The term violence could be used as words. I mean, in the con I understand what you're saying as far as people can say, oh, you hurt my feelings. And even in the context of malinformation, if you're using truth to hurt people's feelings, and I think that's what a lot of whip DIE, they used a lot of truth, but weaponized it to be not effective

2:31:44 and bring about justice. It was to shame and to inflame situations. So that's what I mean is that that's how I see words being used as violence. Yeah, we did look it up. And indeed, violence, according to the Cambridge Dictionary, actions or words that are intended to hurt people. Yeah. And you could tell people the truth and it could hurt their feelings and you not intend to hurt their feelings. You know, then that's not violence. What I'm saying, and then this is where propaganda and words and violence overlap because people will tell you the truth using propaganda.

2:32:22 And we're going to get into that a little later in these next clips. But they could tell you the truth, but they know it's going to come across as hurtful. hurtful. You know, that's like you telling, just say somebody that's overweight to stick to the topic of the show we talked, part of the show we talked about. If you say, hey, you're 350 pounds and say it that way, is it true? Yes, it is. But you said it in a way to hurt that person's feelings. So that's what we were saying about violence. But I think the real thing is when people use words to make you lie to yourself, and as from Neely Fuller's book, the only disrespect and only respect is self-respect when they start to play with your mind to where you

2:33:08 stop respecting yourself. Amen. So I think that's the real and just take it because we're both believers. I think that's the issue Jesus had with the Sadducees and the Pharisees. It's like, yeah, y'all know the law, but y'all, you see, y'all find the loophole to use it against people. That's the issue. So that's the thing. So we'll get, but with this thing with affirmative action, he's going to get into why it was not a good idea. 36. When you use minority, forget it. Everybody's a minority. People who, you know, get drunk on Saturday night, you know, on just a special brand of whiskey can be called a minority.

2:33:54 And so we bought into it and you asked the question, what can we do? We really can't do anything because we lost the word war right from the beginning by accepting terms that didn't make sense. For years, I went around screaming, you can't do nothing with a term like affirmative action. It doesn't have a definition. Racial integration doesn't have a definition. This is why you can't find a racially integrated black person. It has no definition. You can't quantify it. If you can't measure it, there's no way for you to do anything with it. It's amazing he's still alive. Man, we're so blessed. I think it's because he lives in the truth. I mean, like, as much as you can, I mean, everybody lies to themselves at some point, but the focus on

2:34:40 not lying to yourself is hard. Yeah. It really is hard. And just to go back, I'm sure some people could listen to this show. I'm like, well, Mo sound like he's beating up on black women, or Mo sound like, I get this all the time. No, it's the fact that these people have lied to you. They have used terms like diversity, equity, and inclusion, which has no, how are we measuring diversity? And then they can even give you numbers, like we said, about the 5,000. It's half of 5,000 split amongst these groups. So how do we measure, you know, success in this situation? Right.

2:35:22 So these are kind of things, like I said, this is the mind screw. The same thing with the drugs and the same thing with how they're covering Trump and Fonnie Willis and those kind of things. All of this is meant to keep you spun up and it's a form of war. Yes. That's right. And I don't take war lightly. Like, because I live in this world and I could easily, it's one of the two things I could say. I could say, you know what? I ain't worried about it. I'm going to finish this show at 100. I'm done. I'm going to go live my life. I know what I know. And that's it. Or I could take it and say, okay, I can use my talents to work for the dark side.

2:36:00 You know, if money was my intent. Oh, there is another option, Mo. We're hoping you take it. No, I'm saying, I mean, just saying, if I want to take the easy road, you know what I'm saying? Those would be the two easy roads. Like, I've done it. You know, Bucket Lick's chest checked off. I need to be concerned about me. But I realize that my children have to live in this world. My friends have to live in this world. You know, I made a relationship with a lot of people, you know what I'm saying, through this show that have to live in this world. And being a black male is kind of like being a black American. I've said this before, and I don't want to belabor the point, but I want to say this: is that being a black American, we can understand what it's like to be white in the overall world because we're a minority inside this country the same the way the quote-unquote white people are minorities in the world so we can understand how you feel

2:36:51 as a minority we get it the same thing with being a black male we can get it you know we we we do uh have i don't even want to use the word privilege because it's not the right word but being a man certain things you can domineer over women like right as a black man we can domineer over black women because we physically you know uh we were more physically you know uh stronger bigger that kind of thing but then we also can understand it's like well, we know what it's like to be non-white in this world and this system. And it's not about people, it's about the system. Everything, and I think people misconstrued it. And I want to make that very clear if it's the last showy time you hear from me.

2:37:36 I'm not talking about white people. That's why Neely Fuller is not talking about white people. That's why he says three groups of people: there's white supremacists, white people, and non-white people. Yeah, and I heard you, I don't think you've ever said it on the show, but white supremacy is an operating system. It's the operating system. Yeah. The same way we look at, like I said, with the whole thing with the lawyers in here. Go ahead. You were going to say something. Yeah, Corey Booker is a part of white supremacy. Yes. And in Neely Full books, anybody that works towards injustice is part of the system. If you're not working towards dismailing the system, and here's another thing: it's not the fact that

2:38:19 I'm obsessed with white supremacy, as some people will say, will leave a name. No, I'm obsessed with justice. It just so happens that white supremacy is in the way of having justice. That's where the obsession comes from. I'm obsessed with people not being mistreated. I can't stand aside of people who see people mistreated. I can't stand aside and see people that need the most help get the most help. That's what I'm obsessed with. And it's just so happened that the system of white supremacy in that way. And if you Thanosnap white people away, that void will be filled by another group that wants a period on supremacy. And they'll practice injustice. So I want to just want to clarify that right quick.

2:39:05 But I guess, like I said, and they play these word games and these war games with words. So let's get into. Go ahead. No, no, go ahead. Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, I'm just saying that. And that's why we come to propaganda. And really, that's what this whole show was about: I just plucked these stories from social media. And this is the topic of the conversation. Propaganda. All of it. All of it. Which you're right. All right. It's war tactic. War tactic. And you know what's crazy? In these next three clips, it's going to explain propaganda with using propaganda.

2:39:45 Propaganda is ubiquitous, and everyone uses propaganda. It's a kind of communication that makes a case for a goal bypassing reason. So what it does is it's a method to urge you to mobilize towards something while concealing from you things that you reasonably should think, should consider. Stop right there. Play that again. I wish you could play it as slow motion. You know what I'm saying? Really digest what he just said in that first part because it's important to when we play the other parts. Okay. Who said that? I'm like, I wonder if I can slow that down. No, I don't have that capability.

2:40:30 No, propaganda is ubiquitous and everyone uses propaganda. It's a kind of communication that makes a case for a goal bypassing reason. So what it does is it's a method to urge you to mobilize towards something while concealing from you things that you reasonably should think. There you go. All right. So your brain is built to think reasonably. That's how we're made. And it's like it short circuits or it hotwires your brain to say, we're going to go around that reason and go straight to emotion. That's violence. That is violence because it's like, give me the facts.

2:41:15 Give me the numbers and let me process it the way I process it. And then I'll make an informed decision on the information you give me. It's like, no, we're going to go around that reason because that's just inconvenient for us. And we want you to think like how we want you to think. And it works nine times out of 10. Yes, it does. It's very effective. It works 10 times out of 10 for the people that are willing to let it work. Yes. Indeed. All right. Should consider. We have these irrational biases. And what propaganda does is it takes notions like freedom, integrity, and it weds them to these irrational biases.

2:42:06 Oh, man. That's like Twitter is just filled with that every single second of the day. Yes. It is. Want me to go to the next one? Well, that, yeah, because we did a lot of time now. I was 37. Yeah, so what I want people to do, listen to what he just said. You know, it goes around your brain saying goes around your reason, you know, to get you to think how we want you to think. And now listen to what he does in the next two clips. Operation Iraqi Freedom is what the Iraq war was called. Why was killing hundreds and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis called Operation Iraqi Freedom? Because the idea was somehow freedom is what Americans do.

2:42:47 If we're doing it, it must be freedom. The word propaganda by itself is neither good nor bad because we talk of abolitionists' propaganda. We talk about the propaganda that people use in social movements. Social movements need propaganda. Martin Luther King Jr. talked about the need for propaganda because you need to get people to reconsider their racist assumptions. If you're doing a social movement that's trying to change people's attitudes towards, for example, gay marriage, you're going to have to use art.

2:43:27 You're going to have to appeal to people's emotions to sort of undermine the biases they have. Yeah, propaganda. Pro-life, pro-choice. Nowhere is it killing babies or not killing babies. Pro-life, pro-choice. And he just did it because he just said propaganda goes around your reason. You're saying your reasonable thought. But he's like, for certain things, it's okay to do that. But then he condemns the military and the United States government for doing it for Operation Freedom, Iraqi Freedom. But then we said to come to gays and race and abolition, it's okay. How about we just give it to the people straight?

2:44:12 It's not okay to mistreat people. Here's why. And then make you let you make an informed decision. If you say it's okay, then you are who you are. And that's fine. But when you try to manipulate people, once they realize and wake up, they're being manipulated, just like with this whole DEI thing, it's going to be the pendulum's going to swing back the other way, which honestly, I think that's the whole goal. I think the system of white supremacy needs a fresh batch of racists. That's what they need. You know, it's kind of like y'all are getting soft out there. I think y'all are buying into the equality thing. No, we can't have that. Or the system collapses. So what do we need to do?

2:44:53 We need to dag on hold your nose like you do at a dog. You hold his nose in the poop to get him to understand. And that's what's being done. And that's why the orange, this is why I called it orange people. They're treating people that think like that like people of color. Like Neil Fuller said, you're bad for business. Yep. You're bad for business or white supremacy. You don't want to mistreat people. What kind of person are you? You know what I'm saying? Like, we got this nice system going on, runs off mistreatment. You don't want to play it part of it. You make a good point. And I think you're right. And of course, all things backfire. Pendulum is a pendulum because it swings. And you're right. I mean, this is, I even said it myself. It's like, oh, everything's DEI now.

2:45:37 Everything that messes up is DEI. Therefore, the people who are been hired under DEI are no good. And they're a danger to us because they're in airplanes now. Wow. Propaganda. Which they're messing. And that's why I can step in and say, hey, orange people, don't orange people. The people that's trying to, you know, they're trying to manipulate, don't fall for it. Because it's by design, they want you to be racist. They need you to be racist. Because if the race conversation collapsed, then we'd go to justice. And if we go to justice, then this whole charade collapses. Yeah. It upsets me. It really irks me. You know what I'm saying? Because I hate to see people mistreated all the way around.

2:46:22 I've never been that kind of person to be, you know, not to be sound like a saint, but I just never sits well with me. It's like if you beat somebody, beat them. You know, if you want to have a war, let's have a war. You know what I'm saying? Get your guns. We'll get our guns. Let's go out in this field. Let's kill each other. And whoever got the more people left, that's the person that won. If that's what you want to have, you know what I'm saying? All this sneaky stuff, it ain't right. I don't like it. Well, the best propaganda is war, is always war. I mean, we have Ukraine versus Russia. I mean, oh my God, that's nothing but propaganda. And now we have, you know, we have Genocide Joe supporting Israel. It's great.

2:47:04 When you see it, it really becomes quite funny. It is. It's comical. I mean, it has dire, it had dire consequences, but there's a gallows humor to it. because it's like y'all are still, yeah, because that's me too. Because it's like, you're still falling for it, yeah. And then the people say, Oh, the Jews are running the world, or you know, or these are people are running the world. But who are they asking for help? Who are Israel turning to the crown? Yeah, who is the Muslims turning to the crown? They're saying, Daddy, come fix it. Yeah, yeah, you're right. I'm sorry, not everybody understands that. It's it's taken a lot of learning, a lot of mofaxes to get there.

2:47:47 It's the cloud of war, it's the cloud of what they call the fog of war. I mean, that's literally, you know, I mean, when you're in the thick of it, and that's what on the last episode, he was saying going up the mountain. Yep, you know, as you get further away from the battlefield, you can kind of see it. That's how I suggest people to be. Not say not go on social media or whatever else, but take 10 steps back from it. Like with art, you can't really appreciate art until you step back from it and get the full picture. You know, and then you comment. Sometimes that's why these shows take so long. Because, like, hold on, even I, you know what I'm saying? It's luckily, I've been blessed with a partner. You know what I'm saying? It allows, you know what I'm saying, allows me to process, you know, because you, you, you, you're the powerfather.

2:48:32 You say, hey, podcast needs to be on a on a time schedule. But I'm like, for what I'm doing, I, you don't want to hear me talk about something right when I process it. No, no, I'd much rather you process it. That's for sure. Because I'm the canary in the coal mine in a weird way. You know what I'm saying? It's like, okay, let me see it that way. Okay, let me see it that way. But not even in a weird way. I mean, you've always said from day one, this is what has always kept us very close. Is, oh, we're just first, Adam. We're just first. Don't worry. You're next. Yeah, I know. And I mean, that's been apparent for years. I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, you're right. Absolutely. And you know what I mean by you are next?

2:49:13 Yeah, of course I do. The people, I know you do, but I'll make it clear for the people. If you're white and don't go along with the system of white supremacy, you're a big problem. You're next. Yeah. Because you got the resources and the racism thing don't work. You know, this whole, oh, don't listen to him because he's another race. Or don't listen to him because he's another gender. Or don't listen to him because they're another sexuality preference. You know, when you sit here and say, hey, as a, you know, I don't sign up that system, you're a big problem and you have to be dealt with immediately. That's why I call it race traitor. What's the penalty for trading? Being a traitor.

2:49:53 It's right there in the words. No, it's really interesting to see how easily people are. I mean, I think it's still, they're still testing which way they want to, when I say they, the operating system. Because, man, they were so easy to flip on the Jews. Watch this. Yeah. But what? What Auschwitz? What's World War II? No, no, no, no, no. Watch us do this. Boom. Everyone's hating the Zionists, whatever you want to call them. Tunnels. You know what I'm saying? Like, you would not fathom this 10 years ago. No. What's being unearthed? No, 10 months ago. I couldn't fathom this.

2:50:34 This flipped on a dime, brother. That was amazing. They just flipped some switches. Oh, it's Genocide Joe. Oh, I mean, the whole No Agenda Social. I said, I don't want to be associated with any of this. People are out of control. It's N-words. It's Jews are responsible. It's Trannys. People just going insane. But I can understand because I understand what's be propagandized 24/7. And like I said, it's just they're just getting a dose of it. So it's weird to them. You know, I've had, I've been living in this system for 43 years. So, you know, I have experience.

2:51:16 But if you're being, you've lived oblivious to it, and then all of a sudden you have Obama coming to office there because that's really where it started. And then after that, you know, just constant, constant pressure, pressure, pressure. And it's like, yeah, we're going to make white supremacy out of it if we accuse you. That's how the system looks at it. Like I said, I didn't want to belabor the point, but I just want to make that clear what's really going on here. And, you know, don't take debate. And it's not going to be an easy road if you choose to be justice. It ain't no, it ain't, it's not a walk in the park at all. Most can't. Most can't. Everyone gets tripped up, even if you're well aware. It's so,

2:52:01 it's so good. It's so good the way it's done. It's just good. It works. It's human. To be propagandized is probably ultimately human. you know what? This is maybe a show for another day. I think it's very inhuman because in the Bible, not to beat people over the head with the Bible, but it said we wrestle not with flesh and blood. So what the hell are we wrestling with then? Good and evil. There it is. But even Evil said that Eve, hey, look at that guy Adam over there. You know what I'm saying? But that's, you know what I'm saying? Like, these are the only two people on the earth.

2:52:36 He was able to get in between them. Yep. So, like I said, I didn't want to belabor the point, but I just wanted to make that clear because I think people are getting too confused for my liking. Let's do one more propaganda clip here. Okay, let's go. You're going to have to appeal to people's emotions to sort of undermine the biases they have. And what other way do we have to undermine the biases they have? By challenging those biases in often non-rational ways. You know, the goal in propaganda is to connect neutral words to other stuff. Propaganda will always be here. Our words always have these associations.

2:53:16 Any word I have. When I talk about my cat, you get a warm, fuzzy feeling. The propaganda campaign involves connecting our words to these things. It's inevitable that people have these associations between words and images. Democracy involves having many such associations, having lots of different words and lots of different discussions that are happening. So we can kind of pick and choose among them. Yep. All right. So, I mean, that just wraps it up about propaganda. I got one last clip just to show propaganda in action and how they try to propagandize my people.

2:53:58 We know Charlamagne has been stepping on a lot of landmines lately. I don't know if intentional, unintentionally. Throughout the life of the show, I told you he's looking for a way out, but he's also a captive because of his past. So this is Charlamande Gard talking to Joyanne Reed. And I think Angela Rye is also there with him. She bleeds out the clip, and Charlamagne finishes up. And this is propaganda about democracy. Well, here's what I want to say to you, Joy. And you know this too, because you've also been not just in the business, but in the business of serving the culture for so long.

2:54:38 I have been in meeting after meeting, both on the hill and off the hill, with the party about their failure to reach their base, their most faithful base, for years. This is not new information. I don't know why we're surprised. I don't know why folks are. They said I'm not holding them accountable on segments with them and all of that. Lenard is not saying anything different than what I've heard members, including the past chairs of the Congressional Black Caucus, say to the party. They're saying you're not investing enough in our community. Find the lie. Jamie Harrison will tell you that that is indeed the case, that they are working on it to change it. So why are we upset when people are pointing out the facts? The facts are enough black consultants aren't hired.

2:55:20 Tell me five black holsters you have. You can't because you have not created that bench. Tell me the black candidates that you have, you've been forced to ensure that that bench is growing by the Congressional Black caucus. You tell me the number of consultants you hire. Tell me with a fact, with a straight face, that white boys don't run the Democratic Party. And I'll call you a lie all day long. Now, that does not mean that we should go and support a fascist. I don't think that either of us are saying that. That's what mainstream media never reports me saying because I'm never saying, I may talk about Joe Biden and his shortcomings, but I also say Donald Trump is the end of democracy as we know it. Yeah. Oh, you got to feel bad for him.

2:56:02 Democracy, Trump is the end of democracy. Whatever that means. Whatever that means. Whatever that means. He's the end of democracy as we know it. It's such, you know, it's weak. It's weak. They need, though. Yeah, they need a better line. They still need a better line. I mean, where you really see if you really want to see propaganda working, flip on C-SPAN in the morning. They have a call-in show and they have Democrat line, Republican line, Independent line. That was my daily listen on the work. Oh, man. When I went to work. And you just, and people call in, and the Democrat line, it's the end of democracy.

2:56:47 And then the Republican line, it's like, you know, Joe Biden is killing us with the border. I mean, everything. End of America. End of America. End of America. That's the end of democracy. And then the other side, the end of America. There you go. And the independents are, huh? They don't even know what they're doing. Right. Can we all just get along? Yeah, it's amazing. It's amazing. It really is amazing. Mo, this has been a good show, man. I really like it. I also like the length of this show. We're just hitting three bucks here. It's really nice. I appreciate that. Like I said, I appreciate you, bro. You know what I'm saying? I don't just appreciate you, Moe. I love you, brother.

2:57:29 This is I love you too, bro. This is so much. This is fun for me. This is like, this is my sugar right here. Eating sugar. This gets me high. I love it. Hopefully, it is for the producers and sending new listeners as well. Because it's rare that you can have somebody sit down and have this conversation, put their emotions offense to the side and have an honest conversation. And well, we have at least four more to go in this series. Support us. Support Mo. Support the work. MoFacts.com. MoFundMe.com goes directly to the donation page. Mo, thank you so much, brother.

2:58:10 And as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. Conductor. What if you had to stop and think for your lungs and star breathing? A whole lot of people would be blue in the face.

2:59:02 It's a marathon, not a sprint for the human race. Many of us on this planet moving at a foolish pace. Take for granted how the body needs time to rejuvenate. Wait, let me get my PowerPoint on, illustrate all the healing properties. That's your best real estate. Only stop to take a break here and there. Run around through the years. My body saw a lot of wear and tear. Being solid put a lot of stress on the joints. While I get my therapist to massage my pressure points from sliding on the hoods of cars, jumping over fences. Now it's like every week I go to see my dentist, allergist, nutritionists, they call this old interest. It's going for a walk in the sun. It's momentous.

3:00:06 All this talk is securing bags. It's hysterical. You are the bag. You gon' stay rich if you take care of you. Material is not comparable. People stay dripped in dishonor, but they treat themselves terrible. It's apt up, head to toe, rock and fendy. But when it comes time to eat, they go and buy Wendy's put trash in your body. That's not friendly. Niggas eat gas station hot dogs and backup at least. When social media down, they get to shakes and become crippled by the pains of migraine headaches. Had a time my locks off when they was at leg length. And when I cut them off, felt like I dropped the dead weight. Lift weight, sleep well, run a lot. Treat your body like it's the only one that you got.

3:00:50 Cause it is. Say it with me, I am infinite wealth. But it all starts out with loving yourself. That's what it was. But drinking them all for granted. But taking them all for granted.

3:01:44 Conductor, we have a problem.