Thursday, 17 March 2022

78: Hiding in the Fuzz

A deep dive into the institutional influence of George Soros, the historical weight of forged propaganda, and the shifting landscape of urban justice and digital censorship.

By Moe Factz with Adam Curry | 3h 4m listen | 38 chapters
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About this episode

George Soros and the Open Society Foundations face renewed scrutiny as critics link their institutional funding to the rise of progressive district attorneys and shifting urban justice policies. While figures like Al Franken and media outlets like Al Jazeera frame these critiques as echoes of the fabricated Protocols of the Elders of Zion, others argue the billionaire’s financial influence on global currency and domestic policy is a matter of public record. The restructuring of societal norms through the Justice and Public Safety PAC has sparked intense debate over the balance between civil liberty and rising crime rates in major American cities.

Historical parallels emerge between the media influence of Henry Ford’s Dearborn Independent and the modern digital reach of Elon Musk, as both figures navigate accusations of promoting fringe ideologies while maintaining deep ties to the military-industrial complex. In Baltimore, State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby defends a progressive prosecution model that critics liken to the fictional Hamsterdam from The Wire, even as 15,000 vacant buildings become hubs for violence. Meanwhile, Meta has adjusted hate speech policies to allow calls for violence against Russian invaders, and the White House continues to attribute domestic inflation to the Putin price hike, highlighting a trend of using individual villains to explain complex economic shifts.

Adam Curry and Mo Facts break down the three waves of civil unrest and the psychological impact of manufactured historical documents like the Willie Lynch letter. The duo explores the breakdown of neighborhood discourse, where digital clout-chasing replaces direct human interaction and vaccine mandates are compared to post-Civil War Black Codes. From the Shopping Cart Killer to the silencing of Newt Gingrich on Fox News, this deep dive into the fuzz of modern propaganda reveals the parallel networks being built to bypass corporate censorship.


CHAPTER 01 / 38 Discussion

George Soros and the Restructuring of Open Society

Adam Curry and Mo Facts introduce episode 78, focusing on billionaire George Soros and his influence on global structures. They discuss the concept of an "Open Society" and how Soros, along with like-minded individuals, aims to restructure societal norms. The conversation sets the stage for examining Soros not as a singular "boogeyman," but as a representative of a specific institutional ideology.

george soros· open society· adam curry· mo facts· globalism· restructuring society

00:22 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for March 16th, 2022. This is episode number 78. Ready to go to school? I know I am. I'm Adam Curry coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. Time once again to spin the wheel of topics from here to Northern Virginia. Please say hello to my friend on the other end, Mr. Mo Facts. How you doing, Adam? Hey, Mo. It's always a pleasure, my brother. We don't talk enough. We don't talk enough. It's just not enough. You know, it's like every two, I mean, we text and stuff, but every two weeks, it just doesn't feel like enough. How about you? It's always looking forward to. And maybe we might have to increase the frequency. Who knows? Yeah.

01:05 Well, I mean, man, the world is kind of gone crazy right now. I mean, it's just everything is looking kind of weird. I'm not quite sure where to, you know, what to pay attention to these days. Honestly, I try to pay attention to as little as possible. Well, I'll say this: as many rabbit holes as possible. So if I go down one, I'll just go down there at one because if you try to consume it all, it's very, very, very troublesome. Yeah, I get kind of filled up from time to time. It's like, you know what? I'm so happy I'm going to talk with Mo. I'm going to sit back, relax, and let me splin this wheel for a second. We'll get right to it. Got to find out what's happening. Round and round it goes the wheel of topics where it stops. Nobody knows.

01:48 Of course, Mo Fax knows. The topic for episode number 78, Mo Facts with Adam Curry, is... An open society. Well, the first thing that comes up in my mind is George Soros. That's the first thing when I think of open society. And that's exactly where we're going. Okay, there it is. So we're going to talk about George Soros. While we can't talk about him, what he's trying to do, and exactly what you talked about, about what's going in the world today, how he and people that think like him, we got to make it clear that he's not the only one, not the boogeyman. But it's people that think like him that want to restructure society.

02:34 Yeah, yeah, I would agree. And certainly now in that part of the world where crap's going down, it's all in that general area where some of these people are from. And that's what we had to look at because what we see now and why he is, you say he can't, you can't talk about him because his past experience and his group he's a part of, we're seeing something eerily similar going on right now. So I guess we need to do some background on old George. Oh, good. Yes, let's do some of that. This is Mehdi Hassan and Emily Tamkin.

CHAPTER 02 / 38 Discussion

Right-Wing Perspectives on George Soros as a Political Boogeyman

Media clips featuring Mehdi Hassan and Emily Tamkin explore how the American right wing views George Soros as an existential threat. Critics attribute rising crime, migrant caravans, and the "defund the police" movement to Soros's institutional funding. The discussion highlights how Soros's public image has taken on mythical proportions, often being framed as a villainous character seeking to dismantle Western civilization.

george soros· mehdi hassan· tucker carlson· conspiracy theories· western civilization· institutional funding

03:15 And they're talking about the right-wing boogeyman. Rising crime rates, migrant caravans, sex trafficking rings, critical race theory, gun control, Antifa. According to the right, these are existential threats to the American way of life. And according to many on the right, they're all the fault of one man. George Soros decided to purchase Diego. How much do you think George Soros is involved here in Texas? George Soros funded their opponents to take out Democrats who were prosecuted. Soros' money went towards the defund the police movement. Affiliates who are getting money from the Soros-occupied State Department.

03:55 George Soros. George Soros. George Soros, is he aware that his money is being used to destroy America? I wouldn't just say America. I would say the West. Western civilization is his target. That's right. You've probably heard the name George Soros before. He's the Hungarian-born American Jewish billionaire who's been the focus of so many far-right conspiracy theories in recent years. Theories often sound like they're ripped from the protocols of the elders of Zion or. You know, I've studied so much George Soros. And,

04:33 you know, it's kind of taken on mythical proportions because there's many people like him who make money the way he does. But what's specific about him is all these smaller little. He does grandiose things to get the money coming in. But it's all this little stuff spread around that you don't really know about until it's too late. That's where he's spending it all. His money's everywhere. It's institutional. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. Institutional is a good way to look at it. And he looks the part. When you actually look at him, he looks like a he does have that evil character look to him, doesn't he?

05:13 Right, that he needs to have like a cat on his lap, like stroking it. You know what I'm saying? Like, yes, I'm going to take over the world by Tuesday. That kind of thing. Yeah, exactly. So I think that's why he fits the part, but we have to be clear that he represents a way of thinking, this open way of thinking. Let's just change everything on a dime. And it's very jarring. And it's starting to pull society as it seems that you have these two totally polar opposite ways of thinking. And people are siding up, which that becomes binary and that leads to conflict.

05:56 It does, yeah. Out of the conflict and chaos, they build a new. So that's out of chaos order, right? That's correct. That's the elite's slogan. If you can say there are an elite. So what we're going to do is also today is look and see the defense mechanisms used by people like Soros and his ilk. What it's rooted in, because you heard one of the things mentioned in it before clip is the elders of Zion. Yep. And so we have Senator Franken here, and this is an older clip. He's talking to Jake Tapper, and they're talking about the German whistles.

CHAPTER 03 / 38 Discussion

Al Franken and the Dog Whistle of International Banking Plots

A vintage clip features former Senator Al Franken discussing a Trump campaign ad with Jake Tapper, which Franken characterizes as a "German shepherd whistle." Franken argues that the ad's focus on George Soros, Janet Yellen, and Lloyd Blankfein invokes anti-Semitic tropes related to the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion." The hosts analyze how globalist critiques are often dismissed as conspiracy theories by labeling them as dog whistles.

al franken· jake tapper· donald trump· janet yellen· lloyd blankfein· elders of zion

06:38 This new two-minute ad that the Trump campaign is going to be airing. It blasts the Washington and global establishment. It uses images of Obama and Clinton, but some columnists have noted that there are three other individuals in the ad: George Soros, Janet Yellen, Lloyd Blankfein, the financier, the Fed chair, and the chair of Goldman Sachs. And people have pointed out all three of them happen to be Jewish. What was your take when you saw the ad? Well, when I saw the ad, I thought that this was something of a German shepherd whistle, a dog whistle to sort of a certain group in the United States.

07:22 I think I'm Jewish, so maybe I'm sensitive to it, but it clearly has sort of Elders of Zion kind of feel to it, international banking crisis plot or conspiracy, rather, and then a number of Jews. So I think that it does speak to a certain part of his alt-right base. The Bannon, I mean, Bannon, who's head of Breitbart, is chairman. They traffic in that. Trump has retweeted a lot of that sort of thing.

08:07 And I think that it's an appeal to some of the worst elements in our country as a closing argument. And I think that people who aren't sensitive to that or don't know that history may not see that in that, but that's what I immediately saw. And what's always weird to me is that, you know, because of course I've been, and I encourage people calling me a conspiracy therapist, but conspiracy theorist. But most of the stuff that the stories that are out there, certainly when it comes to banks and who runs what and who owns what and what they plan to do, they're just publicly saying it. It's not like a secret. It's just not really reported anywhere.

08:51 But that's the Jedi mindshake right there: the fact that if you say there's this huge cabal of people, no matter what their ethnicity is, because I think when you walk into the room of they, it's a vast mixture of all types of people. But they're all lizard heart. We know that for sure. Reptilian to the core, everybody. At the brain instead of heart. But yeah, they think with this set framework of either flight or fight or flight. That's their mindset. And

09:33 we have to remember this, that this is their basis. Like, okay, the world's coming to an end. We can't leave Earth, and not as of yet. So now we have to fight. And the way they fight is through working their way into institutions and bringing about change. So Elders of Zion. Zion, have you? I'm sure you've heard of it. Um, oh, yes, Mo. Oh, yes, I have most definitely heard of the Elders of Zion. You betcha. Well, I just want to make sure you have. So, what we're going to do is do a little background on it.

10:09 Good. Uh, because it's very important to see what that is and how it's being used today, and maybe some similarities to what's going on right now. Well, let's just say right now, the former senator from Minnesota, I think that was Al Franken, was very clear that this is just a crazy conspiracy theory. Elders of Zion, he said that's the way he said it. He really made quite clear this elders of Zion stuff. And so, let's remember that when you say crazy conspiracy theory, because is he talking about the content of the book or the book itself? Because that's that's we have to separate the two, yes, definitely for sure.

CHAPTER 04 / 38 Discussion

Historical Origins of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion

An Al Jazeera segment details the history of the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion," describing it as a fabricated text created by the Russian secret police in the early 1900s. The document purports to outline a Jewish plot for world domination but was discredited shortly after publication. Even Tsar Nicholas II, despite his own prejudices, recognized the work as a forgery and ordered its confiscation.

protocols of the elders of zion· russia· tsar nicholas ii· anti-semitism· propaganda· secret police

10:51 So, I guess we can go and get to number four, and then uh, this is Al Jazeera, I believe, um, and see how they explain the protocols. The protocols of elders of Zion is the most notorious example of anti-Semitic propaganda in modern history. The protocols is a conspiracy theory that has been discredited repeatedly, but continues to circulate in the garb of truth. Since the first Arabic edition appeared in 1920, the protocols and other myths of Jewish conspiracy have spread widely in the Arab world. Conspiracy theories may be appealing, but they do a lot of damage not only to Jews, but also to those trying to deal with the real sources of the problems.

11:35 So, what is the protocols of the elders of Zion? The protocols purport to document a 200-year-old Jewish plot to rule the world. 24 segments called protocols contain fictitious plans of a non-existent group of Jewish leaders called the Elders of Zion to corrupt the morals of the world, take control of international markets and the global press, and eventually destroy civilization. So, who wrote the protocols? No one knows exactly who wrote the work, but it first appeared in Russia as a series of newspaper articles in 1903 and was soon after published as a book. Jews were a vulnerable minority in Russia and had long been a target of hatred and violence.

12:14 So, it was easy to point an accusatory finger at them without consequence. The protocols was proven to be fake almost as soon as it was published. A Russian government investigation at the time showed that it was fabricated by the Russian secret police operating in France. Even Tsar Nicholas II, who hated the Jews, recognized that the protocols was a lie and ordered copies to be confiscated. Hmm. Okay. So, I mean, is that what you because I want to well, for me, I mean, I've read through the protocols of the Elders of Zion, so I haven't so much looked at the authenticity of it, just the words itself is what I spend most of my time on.

CHAPTER 05 / 38 Discussion

Strategic Propaganda and the Comparison to the Steele Dossier

The hosts compare the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" to modern political propaganda like the Steele Dossier, noting that even forged documents can have real-world effects. They argue that George Soros uses the history of anti-Semitism as a "magic cape" to shield himself from legitimate criticism of his globalist financial activities. The discussion touches on how modern media creates faceless enemies out of groups like Russians or Jews to drive political narratives.

steele dossier· propaganda· george soros· globalism· anti-semitism· vladimir putin

12:55 But the reason why I asked is: have you ever heard of it being a conspiracy? Not a conspiracy theory, but it seemed like it was strategic propaganda. Well, it would be positioned as fake, as not true, as a hoax story. And there's never really any mainstream dive into the actual words itself. I mean, but in general, if you say protocols of elders of Zion right away, bam, anti-Semite, what's wrong with you? I'll give you an example of how I see how this worked.

13:37 Think about the Trump P-tape. Yeah. The fact that they, or the dossier, yes, yes. That was a real thing that was full of fake news. Yeah. It was a real piece of propaganda. I mean, the actual creation of it was real. Now, what was in it has never been proven. I look at this as an old school form of that. Could be. Right? I mean, I'm just saying because we can't prove or disprove. Now, we all, all people think that there's a group of people that want to control the world.

14:17 And this is why I had to do the third rail first because we had to work our way through the minutiae to get to this point. Because this is Sorrel's magic cape. The reason why we had to discuss this is this is his magic cape to say I could surround myself with anything talking about globalism is re-branded as anti-Semitism, anti-Semitism, anti-Semitism. And that's not an equal one-to-one. Oh, no, totally not. Because this thing, we say, oh, China's trying to take over the world. Look, look. what they did with Saudi Arabia with the oil, right? Nobody backs I. Like, okay.

14:55 But when you say it's a globalist cabal, that translates into the way people hear it as it's a Jewish conspiracy. Right. And this is how he's being able to hide, or this is why people are even scared to broach the conversation about him and what he's doing. Yeah. People don't want to be labeled a conspiracy theorist or an anti-Semite. It's powerful both ways. That's what I'm saying. As a dossier and as an anti-dossier. I mean, it's very, in fact, it's just as polarizing as the Russia dossier. I guess you're right. Only that was one person and Russia, and this is Jews, which is probably a bigger group.

15:35 Yeah, that too. Yeah. Interesting. Good point. So I just want to make sure how we look at this. We're looking at it as one, it could be fake, but still be effective. Because look how the, I mean, just a little foreshadowing here. Look how that dossier set the tone for the anti-Russian hate we're seeing right now. Which is crazy. It's crazy. But we've done it for six, what, five years now? Now, it's the Russians, it's the Russians. It was never yes, Mo, but it's interesting because it's become faceless. All right. There's only one face. It's Putin. And there's no other face. There's no Russian people.

16:20 I mean, even I'm amazed when I look at a YouTube video of a Russian couple showing a Russian supermarket, kind of like a Kmart, you know, or a Walmart type deal. And it's so normal. And the gas stations look normal. And it's not, you know, we have so little context about those people's lives. I don't think anyone really hates Russian people. It's just the general the Russians, which is even worse. But the Jews. Yes. Yes. Yeah, I'm with you, brother. I'm with you. So what I'm saying is, as I always try to do, look back at history, see how it was shaped. And we say history repeats itself. I think we're seeing the same thing now. We had this huge propaganda run.

17:04 And I'm not, like I said, I'm not pro-Putin at all. It's sad that I even have to say that because it's the same thing. They're all liars. They're all liars, all of them. And I still won't smoke with Russia for what they did to Apollo Creed. So, I mean, I understand. No, no. Now you've got a valid point, Moe. Yes, I'm with you on that. Yeah. That's still a sensitive subject with us. Okay. But no, so what we have to do, this is why I'm digging into this one piece of propaganda because you've heard it used twice in the first two clips. And it's the go-to. Every time you say anything about globalism, it's the straight jump to Elder Hussain.

CHAPTER 06 / 38 Discussion

Persistence of Conspiracy Theories and the New Red Scare

The segment explores why belief in the "Protocols" persists and how similar tactics are used today to label political figures as foreign agents. Reference is made to "The View" where hosts suggested investigating Tucker Carlson and Tulsi Gabbard for Russian ties, drawing parallels to McCarthyism. The hosts express concern over the return of "lists" and the normalization of calling for the arrest of political dissidents.

mccarthyism· red scare· whoopi goldberg· tucker carlson· tulsi gabbard· censorship

17:46 Just like anytime you say anything about Russia, it's a straight jump to Putin. It's like in reverse, though, instead of it goes from the group to the person, now it's going from the person to the group. Totally. So now we got that laid out and we kind of see where we're going. I guess we're going to number five. Over the decades, numerous governments, scholars, and religious leaders have verified the protocols were a work of fiction. Nevertheless, the protocols and the myth of Jewish world control never disappeared. Jews have been blamed for capitalism and its ideological opposite, communism. They've been called zealous nationalists who reject the international community and also devious globalists trying to dismantle nation states. The truth is, the protocols made it easy to point a finger at Jews for all kinds of political movements.

18:30 So why does belief in this absurd fiction persist? The protocols mention no sources, dates, or names to prove their inauthenticity. So they are easily deployed to many contexts. Those who show the protocols to be fabricated are simply dismissed as part of the conspiracy. Today, people blame Jews for all kinds of social ills, but Jews aren't behind the failure of Arab governments or their economic crises any more than Jews are the source of pandemics, droughts, and natural disasters. Promoting a conspiracy of Jewish world domination diverts attention from the real sources of national troubles, ensuring that they will never be solved. To invert truth, to blame the Jews for 9-11 or the rise of ISIS, simply allows extremism to fester without addressing its source.

19:11 Pointing a finger at Israel or Jewish medical researchers for the spread of AIDS or the coronavirus is not only a malicious lie, but it distracts the public from developing effective solutions. All people committed to truth and justice should help debunk false conspiracy theories. Then, maybe we can work together to address the true sources of the world's enduring challenges. Oh, man, I hadn't heard that the Jews were responsible for COVID. That was a new one. Oh, yeah. I hadn't heard that one. Yeah. The problem that I run up against, although not recently. recently is whenever you talk about the financial system and I say specifically financial system because saying banking is it's that crazy.

19:52 It's that polarizing if you say banking, it's oh oh juice. No, the financial system, you know, the central banks. But even saying that is sometimes often immediately taken to, oh, okay, right. You know what I mean? That's the mental leak I'm talking about. How everything has been associated with certain groups. And that's like I said, that's the same thing just to go back with Russia. Every time anything pointed to Russia for the last six years, I mean, because Biden's been in there for one year and then Trump campaigned for a year before he served in office, anything that smelled of Russia, you even had people whose job was it to

20:33 meet with Russians, if they actually met with them, oh, it's, you know, they're the puppets of Putin. So, I mean, I don't know if you have the clip. Did you see the view? No, I didn't. Well, I don't have the clip yet because it'll be for tomorrow, but they were saying, you know, like, who was it? Tucker Carlson and Tulsi Gabbard, you know, they should be investigated for their ties to Russia. And then Whoopi literally said, you know, they used to arrest people for this. Yeah. I mean, holy crap. Yeah, that was the red scare. That was, we were, we were picking up communists like crazy people. It's kind of seen as a dark cloud in our history. And they're openly calling for it.

21:15 But even McCarthy depends on which way you look at it. Some people say he was doing the right thing and a good job. And then other people were saying, you know, because communism was running wild. Right, right. But I guess the main un-American thing is maintaining lists. You don't maintain a list, which by in itself can be anti-Semitic Schindler's list. I'm just saying in America, we don't make lists. So when we started to get no-fly lists and terrorist watch lists, it was really polarizing because of the fact that it was a list. And it's like, hey, we don't do lists because before you know, we have a lot of lists. And here we are. Now we got a Russia list. Yes. It's sad.

CHAPTER 07 / 38 Discussion

Mass Formation and the Shift from COVID to Russia

The discussion shifts to "mass formation" and how the media cycles through crises—from COVID-19 to the Russia-Ukraine conflict—to keep the public in a state of defeat. They reference former KGB agent Yuri Bezmenov’s theories on ideological subversion and the corruption of educational systems. The hosts predict a return to COVID-19 narratives as a way to dial back the pressure of the Ukraine conflict and inflation.

yuri bezmenov· kgb· mass formation· inflation· vladimir putin· barack obama

22:00 This is why I wanted to do this show. And the way I did it was we're slowly becoming the thing that we claim we despise. Yes. And it's the, I don't know if it's the fog of war that people can't see it. Yes. They don't hear themselves. Wait. We're still in COVID, brother. We're still in mass formation as far as I'm concerned. And they're bringing that back. Well, I mean, and it went from masks and social distancing and now vaccines. And now all the cause of our troubles, your five, six, seven dollar a gallon gas being propagated by the leaders of the world falsely saying, oh, that's because of Putin.

22:43 So they're using, they're abusing this for all kinds of stuff, including political here in the United States, because, you know, Donald Trump is clearly a Russian agent. So, you know, this is what you get. You can't have him in 2024. It's disgusting. And that's why I started a show off when you asked me about everything that's going on. If you're going to pay attention to something, pay attention to one thing at a time. Because this constant wish wash back and forth, COVID, Russia, gas, inflation, it leaves you in a state of defeat, which is the whole purpose. Yes, exactly. Exactly. Now, I'm good, you know, because I make the most study of the financial stuff and

23:25 the environmental social governance because I'm really following it. I can see why this is happening. And it's a different story. And so that's what I do. But that's what I do for a living. But even I'm a little weary, you know, of just all the barrage of messages, which I have to watch. That's just what that's my job. And that's what God for the holy herb, brother. And that's what Yuri talked about, right? Exactly right. And that's what Yuri's talked about. I can't even get his last name right. Business off, I believe how you pronounce it. Who is this? The Russian former KGB. Yeah, I forget his last. Business off, Biznov, or something like that. I'll look it up.

24:07 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's what he was talking about. They ratchet up one thing while they release the pressure off another thing. And he said, and we start by corrupting everybody in school. Correct. Yeah. Yuri Besmenov. Besnamov. I can't even say that. Besminoff. Yeah, there we go. Besmanov. Thank you. A lot of real estate. A lot of real estate on his face. Yes. But that's the whole thing is that I just want to point to people just to prepare them. them. COVID is COVID is on the rise. They're about to crank that back up so they'll dial back Putin. And with COVID, it's now, you saw Obama had it, right?

24:51 So, you know, and it's pushing. I caught it, but thanks to the vaccine. Yeah, I live. I live. I live. I live. Thanks to the vaccine, I live. That's it. Right. And they're already pushing. They're saying the fourth shot. We need the fourth shot. So I'm just letting people be aware of just be careful how you consume news because it can be very defeating. So in that vein, the protocols of the Elders of Zion seems to be a fictitious. Okay, let me explain how I want to say this. The way it was created, it's a manufactured document. Let me say it like that.

CHAPTER 08 / 38 Discussion

The Willie Lynch Letter and Manufactured Historical Documents

Mo Facts introduces the "Willie Lynch Letter" as another example of a manufactured document that, despite its questionable authenticity, has had a profound impact on cultural psychology. The segment features Almaz J. Sammy discussing how the letter is used to explain internal conflicts within the Black community. The core thesis presented is that these historical structures were primarily concerned with profit and global control rather than personal animosity.

willie lynch· slavery· louis farrakhan· propaganda· black history· profit

25:31 Another manufactured document was the Willie Lynch letter that we discussed before on a previous show. Oh, my goodness. Yes, yes, yes, yes. I remember this. So what I want to do is, this is Almaz J. Sammy, and this is from 2008. This is way after Farrakhan, another person's name we can't mention, because of the polarizing. Believe me, we're getting lots of emails for this episode. Trust me. I can feel him. I can hear the keys typing already. Yeah, of course. So he's going to get into the Willie Lynch letter if it's real or not. And the fact that it may not be real, what's distilled the impact.

26:14 You see, the thing that separates us from every other group of slaves was the fact that they knew that slavery was not the beginning and the end of their existence as human beings. We, on the other hand, believe that slavery is the beginning of African or black history. That is what happens when you allow someone else to write your history. When the United States dropped two atomic bombs on the Japanese ending World War II, Japan was devastated. The Japanese government, as a part of the surrender, agreed to give America the run of the whole country. The United States controlled the economy as General Douglas MacArthur wanted to control the educational system. He wanted to ban the teaching of Japanese history. And that is where the Japanese leadership drew the line.

26:57 They would never dream of letting someone else control what was taught to their children. They knew that if they gave up the mind of their children, then there would be little hope of ever getting back on their feet. Without history, future generations would be forced to grope around in the darkness, lost, afraid, and timid. Unfortunately, this is the status that we were reduced to during our time on the plantation. We became lost, afraid, and timid. There was a pamphlet floating around a few years ago called the Willie Lynch Papers that was said to be the plan that was distributed throughout the South. Supposedly, Willie Lynch was a slaver who had a great success at getting work out of Africans who were enslaved on his plantation.

27:39 They feared him and therefore worked his plantation with little effort on his part. It has also been stated that there never really was a man named Willie Lynch in the first place, and his legacy is a myth. Regardless, I believe it is necessary for us to study the Willie Lynch papers in order to understand our own fears and misunderstanding today. It is instructional for us. Firstly, Willie Lynch was primarily concerned with profit. It wasn't personal in the sense that they had something out for Africa. No, they simply wanted to make a book and then use that money to monopolize or control the world, to seize power over the whole world. It was about the Benjamins from the get-go. And there it is, my whole thesis.

28:23 Follow the money. It's always about the money. It's never personal. And that's what people have to understand. At least if you look at it through that light, you can at least put some logic behind it. And it's okay. If it's logic behind it, then you can figure out how you can manipulate the effect on you. If you feel hopeless, then there's no hope. I'm saying there's no hope. Resolution for that. There's no hope that it's gone. It's it. And so, yeah, it's all about the Benjamins. That's what we had to realize. But I just want to play that and compare it to the protocols because

29:01 even though that document was forged or created or manufactured, it still had some truth in it and some power into it. Because a lot of people consume that and like, well, oh, it's just Willie Lynch. You would hear that. People say that, oh, well, that's just Willie Lynch. Black and black crime. Oh, that's just Willie Lynch. You know, this. And yeah. So it's, it's the point I'm trying to make is that I understand why people are so sensitive when they hear the Zion's, the elders of Zion. Zion, that kind of thing, because it's like, oh, they understand their history.

CHAPTER 09 / 38 Discussion

Yad Vashem Perspectives on Anti-Semitic Forgeries and Memes

The hosts review educational material from Yad Vashem regarding the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion," noting its role as the "original meme" of anti-Semitism. The text was used to blame Jewish people for every major historical shift, including the French Revolution and the rise of socialism. The conversation highlights how stereotyping is used to simplify complex global events and demonize specific individuals or groups.

yad vashem· holocaust· russian secret police· memes· propaganda· stereotypes

29:40 So they're like, no, we're not going down that road ever again. So they come out and attack it. And like I said, I think people like Soros and the people that shape his media narrative know that's a good hiding place for him. It works. Yeah, of course. It's a dynamite. The hiding place is a good, good descriptor. Yeah. So he can always slide back into there. So I wanted to get into a little bit more of the protocol, but from the perspective of the Yad Vashem. And what this is, this contains the world's largest repository of information on the Holocaust.

30:21 Excuse me. It's the leading, is the leader in Holocaust education research and documentation. So this is a good source from the Jewish side for their understanding because the other side was from Al Jazeera, which I felt kind of weird. It was interesting because I was like, okay, we're kind of, they'll probably be all in on it, and they weren't, which was interesting to hear from Al Jazeera. Which I found interesting as well. That even to say that they say Tibetan monks had, you know, saying to say we blame Tibetan monks for what happened in the Middle East.

30:57 You'd be like, yeah, that was definitely outside forces that destabilized the Middle East. But to say that you can't blame anybody for it, that was kind of weird, a weird position for Al Jazeera to take. So I just want to point that out. But here is from the Jewish point of view, how they view the protocols. A major legacy of the late 19th century Russian anti-Semitism was the fabricated text known as the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. The work originated in circles of the Russian secret police based on materials borrowed from earlier conspiratorial anti-Jewish writings and theories. Originally published in the early 20th century under the title Antichrist, the protocols disseminated eventually, becoming one of the most widely distributed anti-Semitic publications of modern times.

31:43 The conspiratorial content presented in the publication serves to explain its attractiveness to anti-Semitic ideologues, parties, and movements. So the Tsarist secret police put together this document that basically chronicled the meetings, the alleged meetings that took place over time in Prague at the site of the Jewish cemetery by Jewish elders who came together to discuss ways in which they could rule the world, in which Jews could rule the world. So every single movement in history,

32:27 every single event in history can be that way attributed to the Jews. The Jews have a scheme, have a ploy to rule over the world. And they, you know, so that the French Revolution, according to these protocols, was, you know, was orchestrated by the Jews, socialism, invented by the Jews, capitalism, every single event. Wow, I'm learning so much about our friends. They get blamed for everything. I mean, I get it. I was thinking about this as I'm listening to that. I'm thinking, you know, often when people want to call out an individual, they'll use whatever generalization they can.

33:12 Right. You know what I mean? It's like you stereotype, of course. You can come up with all kinds of stereotypes about me if you want to single me out for something. And it happens with blacks, with Browns, Mexicans, and there's all kinds of stereotypes. But this one in particular is always like, oh, stop. And the other one's kind of, I mean, there's even stereotypes about podcasters now. You know what I mean? It's like, and to single one person out, they'll take, they'll say, oh, all podcasters are this and therefore. Well, that's what they, that's, that's how they try to identify us as a horse pace eating exactly.

33:52 Yes, yes. By creating the archetype of one podcaster and demonizing him. And that, and the same thing with Putin, taking one Russian, taking one leader and saying across all people. Yeah. So what I'm just saying is we have to look at the past and see how this information was manufactured in Russia by the Tsar's police and disseminated across the world. This is like the real, this is like the OG meme. Yes, it is. So it just keeps on going. And you got to think that was like, like 1920 or even earlier. We're talking about 100 years now.

34:35 And this thing is still manipulating people one way or the other, either to be hypersensitive to certain things. Yes, it's a good one. It's a good group of people for everything. It's a good one. And they wrote a cool book to go with it. I mean, you know, the steel dossier will be with us for centuries as well, I'm sure. I think people really need to really realize, take a step back and see how you've been conditioned to hate people that you don't even know halfway around the world. Thank you so much for bringing this up, Mo. This is the most troubling thing for me. And I approach it from a different angle. I say, you don't, in fact, I say,

CHAPTER 10 / 38 Discussion

Media Programming and the Selective Empathy for Ukraine

Adam Curry critiques the selective empathy of the American public, noting that people are programmed to care about Ukraine while ignoring conflicts in Somalia, Yemen, and Palestine. He reflects on the Cold War propaganda of his youth, citing films like "Rocky IV" and "Red Dawn" as tools that conditioned Americans to view Russians as villains. The hosts discuss how this historical conditioning is being refreshed for a new generation.

ukraine· somalia· yemen· palestine· rocky iv· red dawn

35:19 you're really big on this war in Ukraine. And oh my God, it's so horrible. You're actually racist. And I say that to mess with people's heads. And I said, because you don't care about brown children. And I can name a couple countries, you know, Somalia, Yemen, Mali, and go on forever. Palestine, not even a country, but Palestine. And then I would say right after that, but of course you're not a racist is because you haven't been programmed. That's not who you're supposed to care about today. Today, you're supposed to care about these children. And if you don't recognize that, then you're just going to be thrown around like a ragdoll non-stop.

35:59 So it's the inverse of what you just said. It's like we are now, so we're being taught on one hand to have incredible empathy and sympathy. The word you must use with Putin is evil. That is the term. It can be nothing else, evil. And by extension, F-Russia. No one really, I mean, I was hearing the new media show. It's just a podcast show. Todd from Blueberry is one of the hosts. And he said, and this is the fallout that is amazing to me. So, you know, well, we have a lot of Russian clients who use our podcast hosting services, and now they literally can't pay.

36:38 And he's going, well, that, you know, it really sucks for them. And, you know, we're trying to work things out and figure it out with them, not realizing that the cheerleading is bringing on that very problem. Does that make sense? What do you mean by cheerleading? The cheerleading for Putin bad, and let's cut him off and let's chop him. I'm waiting for Elon Musk any day now to turn off all Teslas in Russia, which he can do. It's funny you bring him up because we're going to, but I'm going to hold. Remind me about Elon. We're going to talk about him in a minute. But and so in that mindset,

37:19 here's the real mind screw because the reason why I'm linking the Russians to the Jewish population in George Soros is a lot of the Russian oligarchs are of Jewish descent. Yes. So no, no, no. Be quiet, you. What I'm saying, so when we say who we're sanctioning, is the United States government participating in anti-Semitism by targeting a certain set of groups of people? I think you can make an argument, but of course you'll lose that because it's only the rich ones. But still, that's who when everybody talks about bankers, I don't think there's many broke bankers. I hear you, brother.

38:04 I hear you. I see the hypocrisy. Of course. Of course I do. But it's lost on people. Yeah. And when we used to use the word Russians pre, you know, I mean, up in the Trump era, it was no Russian oligarchs. It was not Russian military. It was not Russian. It was the Russians. The Russians, yeah. And the reason why I'm sensitive to this is the era I grew up in. I grew up in the top gun of Rocky IV. I was propagandized. Ah, yes. Oh, Red Dawn. I forgot Red Dawn as well. Red Dawn was a real, like, what are we going to do if the Russians come? The Hunt for Red October.

38:46 And do you remember Frankie Goes to Hollywood when two tribes go to war? No, I don't remember that one. It was Reagan, and the video was great. And this is a little bit before your time, but that was when I was growing up. And it was one of the most spectacular videos of the time because it was 83 or something. It was really early on. And it was Reagan and Gorbachev in a boxing ring fighting it out, beating each other up. And meanwhile, you know, it's like just all this air raid sirens. And it was a number one hit in probably not the U.S., maybe the clubs. But I grew up with that. that, and my parents grew up with the Cold War Cuba Crisis programming, which they passed on to me too.

39:30 They kept refreshing that hate. It's a refresh. Yes. And I'm telling you, that's why I can remember being glad. I mean, first of all, you thought that Russians were cheaters. That was what was put in the movies. They never played fair. They never did the right way. Yeah. They always wear Rocky Ford. They always wear leather steroids. They always wear leather jackets. Yeah. And then you had all these different things that. Do you remember Bordis and Natasha? From Rocky and Bullwinkle. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

40:07 Another one. Another programming moment. Yeah. And I'm telling you that people my age, this is why, I mean, because I'm 41, just to let everybody know. So everybody in the world. And doesn't he look handsome? Doesn't he look handsome for 41, ladies and gentlemen? What a looker. So, yeah, this is what they're going through. When they hear Russian, they hear Rocky Ford, drag off, Top Gun, and Lilius Goes, Red for Red October. No, no, Red Dawn. Oh, Red Dawn, yes. If you don't remember that, that's when they came across the Mexican border and took over America or trying to take over America.

40:48 So this is. I'm just saying all this to say, but this is how even most recent on Apple TV Plus, we have the rewriting of the space race. I don't know if you've seen this. I forget what it's called. It's a series about going to space, but they rewrote it where the Russians landed on the moon first. And so in season two, and this started a couple months ago, I was like, oh, I was excited. Like, okay, it's kind of weird, but I'll watch. I like season one. And right away, they're on the moon shooting the Russians. And I'm like, I can't watch this. And movies do this because it was when the Russians went out and was going through the age of terrorism.

CHAPTER 11 / 38 Discussion

Henry Ford and The International Jew Publication

The segment details Henry Ford’s role in distributing anti-Semitic literature through his newspaper, the "Dearborn Independent," and his book "The International Jew." Ford’s massive wealth and influence allowed him to legitimize these views on a mainstream level, distributing his books to every library in America. The hosts question why Ford has escaped modern "cancel culture" despite his documented history of promoting the "Protocols."

henry ford· the international jew· dearborn independent· anti-semitism· ford foundation· cancel culture

41:30 Everybody was bad. That was Middle Eastern. All the bad guys were Middle Eastern. That was the threat. So I guess now we can go ahead and get into number eight: Elders 2. The protocols of the Elders of Zion spread, even though they were revealed as a forgery at an early stage. The first non-Russian edition was printed in Germany in 1920, followed by further translations into other languages in Poland, France, and England. It also reached the United States during that same year, where the automaker and leading industrialist Henry Ford published an Americanized version of the text under the title The International Jew. As can be expected, the text also gained prominence among members of the Nazi Party.

42:14 Leading Nazi figures incorporated it in their ideology as early as the 1920s, as can clearly be seen in Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf. Between their rise to power in 1933 and the beginning of the Second World War, the Nazis published at least 23 editions of the protocols, which were widely distributed. Yeah, another thing I've read, Henry Ford's The International Jew. And I learned this a long time ago that he had some interesting publications in this regard. Can I ask one question? Why didn't he get the cancel cannon? I find that, I mean, was Ford just too big to fail? Too big to cancel? I think it was. Yeah, maybe he was too big to cancel.

42:59 And maybe a lot of people agreed with him back then. No, I'm talking about even nobody calls for it. You mean even now, like a Ford F-150? Yeah. I mean, we need to get it. We're being equal. It is a cancelable moment. I agree with you. I mean, all things being equal. Yes. Do we need to get the cancel cannon out for Henry Ford? Because if you can get the Washington Monument, I don't see the F-150 being untouchable. You know, this is a very good point, Mo. And this is what I want to ask you why you grabbed it. Well, hold on. You want to spray the cannon right now? Please, go ahead and get it. Goodbye, F-150. Is it the

43:44 Ford Foundation linked to Henry Ford? I don't know. Yes. I know you're not. Yes, yes. The answer is yes. Is this his atonement? Is this the Ford atonement for his transgressions? I don't have answers. I'm asking you. I know you. No, but I'll say the way you win in America is not through belonging to a group or anything or being voted to office. The way you win in America is having the most money. And when you have money, you have power. And when you have power, people shut up. We just said that about the. uh it starts with the Benjamin. So that's, I think everybody gets to that point and understand. They, like you said, it leads to the money.

44:26 Everything leads to the money, and uh, that's how they manipulate these people. So, I mean, just as a quick aside, you know, we've talked about the Federal Reserve. To this day, we do not actually know publicly who which banks or families own the Federal Reserve. We don't know this. The government owns it. Yeah, and they own Federal Responses. And I learned the other day the Federal Deposit Insurance, FDIC, is just like the Federal Reserve. It's not even a part of the government. I did not know that. I didn't know it either. Well, it's the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, so that would have given us a clue. Now that I think about it, of course, we only know it by the acronym FDIC. Now,

CHAPTER 12 / 38 Discussion

Elon Musk as the Modern Henry Ford

Mo Facts asks if Elon Musk is being positioned as the new Henry Ford, citing recent attempts to link him to the "alt-right" following his controversial social media posts. They discuss Musk’s use of a Hitler meme to criticize Justin Trudeau and the subsequent backlash. The hosts suggest that both Ford and Musk maintained tight ties to the U.S. government and military-industrial complex, making them "too big to fail."

elon musk· henry ford· tesla· justin trudeau· hitler meme· spaceforce

45:12 the president or the chair is appointed, I think, also for FDIC by Congress, by the Senate, as approved by the Senate. But the organization functions the same way. I mean, it's fuzzy. It's really fuzzy. It's fuzzy shit. And that's where they hide in the fuzz. They're hiding in the fuzz. Nice. I like that one. So now we can talk Musk. Is Musk the new Henry Ford? Because you see what they tried to do with him. They're trying to link him in with Alt-Right, with the Hitler meme, these kind of things. Are they trying to position him as the new Henry Ford?

45:57 Interesting. It's funny that you said that he would pull the plugs in Tesla, but I agree, but I think for a different reason and not let this stick to him. It's interesting you bring this up with Henry Ford. The comparison is perhaps better than my previous one, which is P.T. Barnum, or as I often say, the Kim Kardashian of tech. I think Elon Musk is a true fan. I've met him. I've hung out around him. I see the people around him. I just don't think he's brilliantly smart. I think he's perfect for the role that he plays. You know, it's like he didn't invent Tesla. Tesla was purchased and then he ran it.

46:42 And we don't even know exactly what he runs. But he's perfect for, I mean, and he gets away with all kinds of crazy shit, certainly when it comes to the SEC and how he says stuff that actually moves markets massively, certainly his own stock. So to say he's the Henry Ford is an interesting one because it does follow the formula according to how much money he has. But he has handlers. He definitely has handlers because I know them and I've seen them. And I'm pretty sure Ford had handlers as well. I will agree with that. Yes. So I guess now we can get into basically the international Jew and Henry Ford's assembly line of anti-Semitism.

47:27 Henry Ford was one of the heroes of his time. He had brought the automobile down in price. It was now affordable. It had the impact, really, of a later generation would know the internet or the computer. He was like Mr. Gates in terms of how Americans viewed him. So when Henry Ford, the great hero, becomes persuaded that the Jew is the world's foremost problem, that was indeed an issue

48:09 that had an enormous impact on Jewish life. Moreover, every Ford dealer would distribute Henry Ford's newspaper known as the Dearborn Independent. And for 91 straight issues, the Dearborn Independent targeted Jews, the world's foremost problem, as he said. And then Henry Ford repackaged those articles into a series of volumes entitled The International Jew.

48:45 These books were sent free to every library in America and were very widely distributed. Well, now all of a sudden, this clip makes me reevaluate. I like the Bill Gates comparison a lot. Of course, there's no note of anti-Semitism there per se, but to say that Microsoft Windows was the Ford, is the Ford of the computer era. of a new age. Yeah, I like that comparison. And Gates is evil just in different ways. And he's a figure that when you say something about him, it polarizes people in the same way.

49:31 But the reason why I'm saying what Henry Ford is and Elon Musk, if Elon Musk can get that price of a Tesla down to where it's affordable, he could easily beat Henry Ford. But I'm making the bigger point that one Elon Musk has put himself in a weird position as far as some of the takes that he makes that he's known for. Even to the point where, what's the guy's name? He just slipped my mind. The fast talker, conservative. Ben Shapiro. Thank you. Thank you. I had it right on the tip of my tongue. Yes. He even had to come out and kind of.

50:15 What exactly did Elon do that? Hitler, he posted a Hitler meme. That's all I had to say. I don't even have to tell you the context, anything. Anytime you're posting a Hitler meme that's not pointed towards conservatives, just don't do it. You know, if you're calling conservatives Nazis, that's fine. If you call anybody else Nazis, that's a problem. We saw this with even Michael Eric Dyson when he said that Clarence Thomas was like the Jews that helped. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. So he posted a picture of Hitler with the caption, stop comparing me to Justin Trudeau.

50:58 Yes. I'm sorry. Oh, he says, now you see. Here's the problem. That part was funny. But the second part is, I had a budget. That's kind of sick. Yeah. Wow. But he had to, the cancel cannon was aimed at him. And I'm just equating the two that somehow Ford escaped and somehow Elon's escaped. So I don't want to go down the comparison path too much, but once again, pointing out. I believe that both Ford and Musk have U.S.

51:39 government ties that are very tight. Musk, certainly with the National Reconnaissance Office, maybe with Space Force, NASA, all of these spy outfits. They got to be nice to Elon. I think so. And Henry Ford, of course, had many government involvements, certainly in the war machine. So, yeah, I mean, that makes sense. Follow the money once again. Because the Russians are talking about not giving us a ride home from the space. I love that. I love that. Yeah. Hey, man. Yeah, you can hitchhi like your own way back. We're not taking you. We're not dragging your ass home. So let's go ahead and get to the second part about Henry Ford.

CHAPTER 13 / 38 Discussion

Normalization of Hate and the Shield of Anti-Semitism

The discussion explores how Henry Ford used professional journalists to "punch up" the "Protocols" to make them more appealing to the American public. The hosts argue that George Soros uses the historical context of Ford’s anti-Semitism as a shield to deflect from his own political and financial influence. They conclude that labeling all criticism of globalism as anti-Semitism prevents honest discourse about institutional power.

george soros· henry ford· ibm· operation paperclip· globalism· propaganda

52:21 So never before in America had we seen anti-Semitism at a mass level. There had been earlier anti-Jewish pamphlets, but they were considered fringe elements. Suddenly, anti-Semitism was being dispersed by one of the wealthiest, best known people in America. And he was legitimating anti-Semitism. If one reads the International Jew, one quickly learns all the things that Henry Ford was unhappy about.

53:03 The city, modern music, new government programs, and whatever it was, he blamed on the Jews. No question that Henry Ford was influenced by the protocols of the elders of Zion, the great anti-Semitic forgery. But while the protocols are a boring book without real life in them, the International Jew, written by journalists with great skill, really captured the national imagination because they took all the things that people were concerned about and didn't like and blamed them all on

53:52 Jews. And in many cases, Henry Ford would name a particular Jew whom he considered responsible. You know, I just recalling some of the research because it's been over a decade since I really looked at Henry Ford. Around the time of Operation Paperclip, when we brought a whole slew of Germans over, Nazis, including Werner von Braun, who, of course, famously started, you know, ran the Apollo program. At that time, there was a true Nazi party in the U.S., and I think Ford was associated with them or certainly contributed campaign finance.

54:36 So it would make sense that if he was in that group already, who in effect told the people the Jews are responsible for all your melees and we need to get rid of them. I'm paraphrasing. I'm shortening up the whole issue. For that time, that would see on the wrong side of history and not canceled, but you can see where that came from. And that's the point I'm trying to make in the bigger scope of things that this hate or I wouldn't even say hate. Yeah, why say hate? It was accepted on the mainstream level.

55:15 You will have marches, Nazi marches, at Madison Square Garden. I mean, you could pick up a copy of Ford's newspaper at every Ford dealership for 91 episodes. I mean, 91 issues. So, and then, like you said, he took the protocols and punched it up with great journalists. So, I'm sorry, so this was actually before that. Yes. Before, before he even had, I think the Germans were delighted. Well, we know that there was a lot of American business, hello, IBM, IBM,

55:55 who were doing business with the Nazis. I mean, this is a dark page in our history, but we can't deny that it happened. And now we have to look at it through the lens to say when people hear Soros and it's equated to the protocols, then it's equated to Henry Ford, then it's equated to the normalization of hate. Okay, I'm with you there. Now, I have issues with what he's doing with his money, but yeah, and I think a lot of people do, but the shield is always the anti-Semitism hate, whether it exists or not. Correct. And that's what we have to work our way through to seek first to understand, then to be understood how what we're saying is received.

CHAPTER 14 / 38 Discussion

Tucker Carlson and the Character Assassination of Soros

Mehdi Hassan criticizes Tucker Carlson for his "Hungary vs. Soros" special, accusing him of fueling "Great Replacement" theories. The segment mentions the 2018 mail bombing attempt by Cesar Sayoc as a consequence of this rhetoric. The hosts analyze how media figures like Hassan emphasize Soros's Jewish identity to frame all opposition to his policies as inherently bigoted.

tucker carlson· mehdi hassan· rudy giuliani· ken paxton· cesar sayoc· hungary

56:36 And it's like, oh, Soros, brain fry out. Right. You know, I can't hear anything else. You're an anti-Semitism. Right. Okay. Good. And are we going to figure this one out? Yeah. So now we're going to go back. Please, Moe can we figure this one out for today? I'd like to know how to do it. So now we got it. Not had to lay all of this out. So now we can go back and listen to Matty Hassan. And I forget her name. Where's her name at? Emily Tamkin. We have to list the entire conversation out through the lens of what we've just explored. In just the past few weeks, Rudy Giuliani and Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton have blamed Soros-funded DAs for higher crime rates. And disgraced former general Mike Flynn said Soros caused COVID to control the world.

57:20 He caused COVID. That's what he said. Soros has also been scapegoated by many strong-armed world leaders from President Erdogan of Turkey to Prime Minister Orban of Hungary to yes, Donald J. Trump here in the U.S. But the worst offender is not a dictator or a tinfoil hat wearing blogger. It's the most watched primetime cable news host, Tucker Carlson. George Soros is a billionaire who has spent decades waging a kind of war. Watch as Tucker exposes the less globalist ideals and the fight for civilization, Hungary versus Soros. Streaming now. That lie-filled special is the culmination of years of Soros hate from Tucker Carlson, who blames the very rich Jewish man for fueling immigration and replacing real Americans.

58:06 It's a kind of character assassination that led to a real assassination attempt on Soros in 2018 by Cesar Sayok, the MAGA bomber, who's now doing 20 years in prison. Why is Soros the focus of all these conspiracies? How did this all stop? All right. Hold on a second. First, let's debunk that the mail bombs because they went to Pelosi and was all bullcrap. We pulled that apart right away. That was bull crap. But holy, I don't know. I think I've watched that special. I'm not sure. I'll rewatch it. I don't think he, at any point, does he talk about Soros being a Jew. But Matty identifies Soros as the Jewish man.

58:52 Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. Why'd you throw that in? But once again, we have to look at it through the lens of what we heard Henry Ford would do. They said he would take one Jewish person and. and highlight them as a representation of the problem. So I'm assuming that's what Meddy is thought to be, that's being done on the other side now. Okay, that's the comparison. Yeah, I can see it. And I see how this will never work, what Tucker Carlson is doing. I can see that. No, it'll never happen. The reason why I'm bringing this up is the Soros thing is ineffective.

CHAPTER 15 / 38 Discussion

Ineffectiveness of Blanket Political Labels

The hosts discuss why simply blaming "Soros" is an ineffective political strategy, as it often leads to a "brain fry" where listeners stop engaging. They advocate for identifying specific institutional structures, such as the funding of district attorneys or the distinction between "Black Lives Matter" as a sentiment versus "Black Lives Matter Inc." as an organization. They lament the loss of civil discourse in the age of anonymous social media.

george soros· black lives matter· district attorneys· binary politics· social networks

59:28 Yes, exactly. It is when you're talking about amongst people that, you know, get into the weeds and understand how the mechanisms work. But when you say just, no, no, no, no, no, no, George Soros, it's like done. Well, it's brain fried. So in general, certainly in the United States, we have a very bad habit. And instead of calling out individuals who we can demonstrably show did things we don't like, certainly on a political level, we call out the government. Yes. And that's ineffective. And that just makes no sense.

1:00:06 The only thing, and he's legendary for this, George Soros did single-handedly break the Bank of England. And he's proud of it. And he did it in a legit way. I mean, he shorted the pound and he made out like a bandit. And it was Gordon Brown who totally screwed up and advertised the gold prices. And he was a total idiot. And I was around when this happened. We covered it. That is true. But that was George Soros, the financier, not the Jew. But somehow, you know, well, okay, I understand what you're saying. But all the other stuff. It goes right back into this. But I will never say, well, that's not true. So in Austin, we have a George Soros finance district attorney.

1:00:51 I go after the district attorney because I know that it's, I know that it's ineffective. But the amount of people who only will say Soros did it, Soros did. And we would do it ourselves, the Soros sisters, you know, because we're in the weeds and that's our language and we understand what we're talking about. But yes, ineffective completely because exactly what you're pointing out. And this is the only way you can get to the root of the problem is if you talk it out. But a lot of people just like to throw these blanket statements out there. Like, and this is something I think we're pretty good at with Black Lives Matter. Early on, we distinguish Black Lives Matter from Black Lives Matter ink. Very effective because when I do that, people go, oh, yeah. Yeah, because if you just say Black Lives Matter, it's like, oh, you hate black people.

1:01:38 That's how it's received. It's like, no, no, no. There's a structural, and that's why I use the term institutionalized. His money is institution. It's an institution. And it's a well-bit structure. So if you want to talk about this, there's a way you could talk about it. And we're going to do this later in the show. Of course, I expect no less. It's identify the structure. So two things I'm trying to do here. One, point to people that's trying to educate people on what's going on. If you're going to do it, you can't do it in a passing tweet or text message or whatever. You have to sit down to a table like me and you do, have a conversation about it, or just don't broach the subject if you don't have the time to actually get into the weeds of it.

1:02:22 Yeah, we used to be a society where we wouldn't publicly argue about politics and religion. It was so much better back then. I don't know. We were repressed. We were repressed. We go home and say, that guy's a dick. That guy's a dick. Or we'd say, I don't like his politics, but I like him. There was a lot of that too. Right. But I just think when we don't talk about it, it lets this kind of thing fester. So we're not. When you've had a society that has not been talking about things for generations, that's how I was also raised.

1:02:59 Just don't argue about politics and religion. And then when you get these networks, of which you have many, and the social network is the one I'm talking about, when everybody can start saying what they really think without publishing who they are. Yeah, then the ugly came out. Yes. Real ugly. And then people are naturally extremists, so they go to one extreme or the other, where everybody's either binary. As you say, binary. Binary. Binary. So let's go ahead and get into the second part.

CHAPTER 16 / 38 Discussion

Open Society Foundations and the Bet Against the Pound

Emily Tamkin’s book "The Influence of Soros" is discussed, highlighting Soros's history as a hedge fund pioneer who "broke the Bank of England" in 1992. The segment covers his transition from currency trader to a philanthropist spending billions to foster an "Open Society." The hosts argue that his goal is to bring nations to their knees financially to facilitate a globalist, borderless system.

george soros· bank of england· open society foundations· currency trading· globalism· emily tamkin

1:03:36 I mean, excuse me, part three of Maddie's show. Well, as journalist Emily Tamkin writes in her new book, The Influence of Soros, Politics, Power, and the Struggle for an Open Society, George Soros is a powerful man. After surviving the Holocaust, he pioneered hedge funds and became the world's most famous currency trader. In 1992, he made more than a billion dollars in a month by betting against the British pound, a bet that broke the Bank of England. of England. And Soros, now in his 90s, has spent billions of his own wealth to foster what he calls an open society, including in America, millions of dollars to Democratic candidates and progressive causes. Just last week, his open society foundations gave $150,000 each to more than a dozen black social justice activists to continue their civil rights work.

1:04:20 As Tamkin writes, quote, Soros may not wield his influence to destroy nations and smuggle in caravans, but he has still done quite a lot. And I'll add to that, I truly believe he does all this to make money. It's his system. That's how he did it in England, and this is how he's doing it to America. And it's his dream, and I think it may be stated, his dream would be really bring America to its knees financially. To open it up. They want an open society. Yes, globalists. It's again, not a conspiracy theory. He's really open about it. But when you say open society and you say globalist, then I say globalists, say international, international Jew.

1:05:03 Now I'm right back to you hating like Henry Ford. Don't do that to me, Mo. That's not fair. No, I'm just saying, I know. It's not fair, but that's this is what these people do. And it's like, hold on. So it's like, oh, now I, but you have to operate on their terms. I mean, this is when they have the, like you said, it's about the money. And I'm not even going to go into, you know, the social credit score and these things. It's going to, but that like you said, going back to the Millie Lynch clip, the speaker there was saying it's all about, even slavery was about the money.

1:05:43 And when you take it in that sense, it's like, okay, now I can at least understand it. And once I understand, I can say I can combat it. So let's go ahead and get into part four. Not just a lot, but enough for far-right figures to launch into outlandish narratives full of resentment and bile. George Soros did it is the Uruk conspiracy theory on the right. The idea that immigrants and criminals and Marxists are everywhere trying to tear it all down and controlled at all times by one man, by one very rich Jewish man. This is the basis for almost every white grievance that you see in American politics and abroad today.

1:06:23 It's deluded. It's dangerous, but can it be stopped? Joining me now is Emily Tamkin. She's a senior editor at the New Statesman magazine and author of The Influence of Soros: Politics, Power, and the Struggle for an Open Society. Emily, thanks for coming on the show this evening. The Soros conspiracies are out of control right now, but they're not new and they're not fringe. Have a listen to then President of the United States Donald Trump in 2018 discussing the infamous migrant caravan heading for the U.S. southern border. I wouldn't be surprised. I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised.

1:07:02 A lot of people say yes. How did we get to a point where world leaders are blaming one guy, one very rich guy, but one guy for all of society's problems and threats? Well, yes, I would like to know. Is this guy a member of the Open Society Institute by any chance? This Mehdi Hassan? Mehdi. I didn't find anything pointing him to the Open Society, but this is the problem. Because I know people who were in this organization, and I know what they did in former Yugoslavia. They were in there too. The OSI, all over that. You know, this has been a problem in Europe.

CHAPTER 17 / 38 Discussion

Putin Price Hikes and the Blame Game

A clip of White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki shows the administration attributing inflation and gas price increases to the "Putin price hike." The hosts compare this to the media's refusal to blame George Soros for societal issues, noting the hypocrisy in blaming single individuals for global economic trends. They discuss how Putin is being used as a proxy to prevent a successful 2024 run by Donald Trump.

jen psaki· vladimir putin· inflation· gas prices· donald trump· ukraine

1:07:43 It's been a problem everywhere. The open society, which, okay, if we can stop it internationalists, I'll just go to the globalist part. But yeah, this is what they're doing. And we saw what happened in American cities in 2020. I mean, we can't act like we didn't see. Oh, yes, we can. Oh, yes, we can. Because in America, when the media tells us it's a mostly peaceful protest, even if there's a building burning behind the guy saying it at the time, we actually will fire. We will believe this shit. I mean, that's on us.

1:08:20 And going to the media and how manipulative it is, even Mehdi says, how can we blame one man for his name for all this trouble? Now I fast-forwarded Jen Sachin. Yeah. Asked the same question. So to that point, inflation goes up today. The president's statement blames the Putin price hike. Are you guys just going to start blaming Putin for everything until the midterms? Well, we've seen the price of gas go up at least 75 cents since. President Putin lined up troops on the border of Ukraine. And last month, the statement didn't mention the Putin price hike.

1:09:02 It mentioned inflation because of the pandemic. Why is that? Well, Peter, last year, last two years, there was a global pandemic. Everyone who's global economists have all agreed that that has been the biggest contributor to date of inflation because of the impact on the supply chain. Obviously, global events impact the economy, the global economy, as well as global inflation. Jen, you can't say global like that. Good point. Don't say that, Jen. Obviously, global events impact the economy, the global economy, as well as global inflation.

1:09:42 And the spiritual. You're right. Do see you just go back. Excuse me. When you say globalists, are you referring to internationalists like the anti-Semite, Henry Ford? Global events impact the economy, the global economy, as well as global inflation. And the price hikes as a result that have escalated over the course of time of President Putin's further invasion, of the impact on the global oil markets are, of course, having an impact. Yeah. It messes with your head when you listen to when you listen to these two clips side by side. It does. Medi, they blame Trump, then Koof, then Putin.

1:10:22 Yeah. For everything. You know what I'm saying? For everything. The sun didn't come out today. It's all Trump fault. Yeah. Or you know what I'm saying? Or it was COVID's fault. Now it's Pudy Tang's fault. It's like, well, Putty Tang is by association Trump. I mean, that's the beauty of it. You get two guys. Wish I said that this would probably keep 45 from having a successful run the next time around. Because whatever Putin Pudy Tang is doing now. It might as well have done by Trump by proxy. Right. We are in Pooty Tang. Wait a minute. Someone posted what that was really from. I forgot what is Pooty Tank. Where's it from? Not from Martin. Where's it from, Pootie Tang?

1:11:03 It's a movie. It's an actual movie. Oh, it's the movie. Oh, is it Chris Rock in the movie? Yeah. Sorry. Sorry, Moe. Got my black guy. My black guys confused. Yeah, it was his movie, but it was a guy that actually played Pootie Sang in a different act. There you go. Okay. But yeah, now you hear, it's like, hold on. Now we can blame one person and then take that one person and associate it to a whole nationality of people. This is okay now. And this is what scares me. The same way we saw back in the 19, I mean, before pre-World War II, Nazi flags flying in America. This is how you get to that again.

1:11:46 This is this. I mean, look, I mean, we have people that are supporting pro-Nazi groups in Ukraine. It's like, yeah, it's cool. No, no, they're the good Nazis. What? It's even worse than that. People are asking me if I should have my head examined. How can a country that was predominantly under Soviet rule for decades, how can that all of a sudden have Nazis? Are you insane? There's no Germans there. I mean, that's literally how they talk. It's a lack of, it's complete ignorance. It's just a lack of historical knowledge. But we can look back and see how those people got suckered in the same way.

CHAPTER 18 / 38 Discussion

Operation Paperclip 2.0 and Ukrainian Corruption

The hosts speculate that the influx of Ukrainian refugees and officials could be "Operation Paperclip 2.0," an extraction of valuable but corrupt assets. They discuss the history of government corruption in Ukraine, mentioning CrowdStrike, the Biden family, and Victoria Nuland. The conversation suggests that the conflict is being used to "clean up" or hide documents related to bioweapons labs and financial scandals.

operation paperclip· ukraine· crowdstrike· hunter biden· bioweapons· victoria nuland

1:12:28 This happening right now. Of course. Everybody gets suckered in. Absolutely. And you brought it up. I want to ask you one question for it. Slips in my mind. Could this be, this whole Ukraine thing be Operation Paperclip 2.0? You know, we're going to be bringing in people from Ukraine. You know it. Yeah. I think. No, I mean, again, for me, and that's just what I'm focused on. I see only money. Everything is fixed with financial weapons and money. So there's a financial war and China's in it one somehow to, you know, they just

1:13:12 printed a whole bunch of money. There's all kinds of stuff going on, Mo. And it's, and that's the sad thing. None of this is relevant. None of this has to happen. It's all about money. And fuck, man, we're the bad guys. But even then, it was about money. Of course. Well-to-do people in the Ukraine. Yeah. And all over Europe, Poland, everywhere else. It's like, well, the kitchen's getting hot. And they're going to be considered refugees and brought to this country. That's why I said, could this be Operation Paperclip 2.0, where you were saying you're getting assets out of the country? And that's what that paperclip was all about. It was all about money. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Those guys are too valuable to kill.

1:13:53 Yeah, but bring them over here and give them jobs. Well, it would be a little different. I would say it's operation. Good point, by the way. I'm going to write this down. It's an extraction for sure. And it's an extraction of money for what money was still left. It's an extraction of operatives. I'm sure they're burning documents left and right. This whole bioweapons lab thing has, you know, has all kinds of bull crap written all over it. Maybe we actually had to clean those up or let everyone know they were. I don't know. Something going on there. And most possibly all the corruption. All the corrupt elements need to get out. They want to get out to safety.

1:14:33 Because holy crap. I mean, I grew up in the Netherlands. We knew it came from Ukraine. We knew it was going. You want someone killed? Yugoslavian or Ukrainian. You know, you want a great fighter? Ukraine. You know, the hookers, Ukraine. We know about Ukraine is legendary for weapons smuggling all over the world, all over the world from Ukraine. And I think that the corruption is, there's a reason why this is all focusing around Ukraine and cyber. I mean, you know, CrowdStrike, the famous security company that determined the,

1:15:14 you know, the Russians had hacked into the DNC server, who never, as far as I know, gave a server or an image of the server to the FBI. They're a Ukrainian company. Ukraine, not the people, but Ukraine, the government stinks. And we put them in there. We, America, specifically America, not just the West. And Noodleman and CIA's Brennan and John McCain and Lady G, Lindy Hop, Graham, all of these people were there. Kirsten, what's her name? Gillibrand? No, not Gillibrand. The other one, the one who ate the salad with the comb.

1:15:59 I know you're talking about a kid of name. She was there, and they were all, and they were talking to the neo-Nazis. This photographic evidence. So, you know, there's a lot going on. Hello, hello. It's just that, and it's money-based because if you the Biden crime family, need I say more, the Biden crime family. If you're valuable, more valuable alive than dead, then we got a place for you. Come on over. We'll give you some new papers, pick up a new life, and you can work in our labs. Yeah. Although, you know, we leave our own people to die in Afghanistan. So I don't, these must have been pretty valuable people.

CHAPTER 19 / 38 Discussion

Jussie Smollett and the Era of Digital Scapegoats

The hosts briefly revisit the Jussie Smollett case, discussing his claims of not being suicidal following his sentencing. They compare Smollett and Jeffrey Epstein to "scapegoats" used to distract from larger institutional issues. They argue that in the modern era, actual "dead bodies" are less important than the digital imagery and viral narratives used to trigger public emotion.

jussie smollett· jeffrey epstein· propaganda· social media· self-preservation

1:16:40 Like you said, it all goes back to money. And that's the sad part about it. Or reputation. Perhaps reputation would be one too. It's a lot of reputations could be ruined. It's easier than killing your operatives. They might be useful. Just kill some civilians. It's much easier. Much easier. And then now what we're seeing, even now, you don't even need, like we go back to the Jussie Smollett conversation for a minute. You don't even need bodies anymore. I mean, or as many. It's like with the news and way it works and how social media works. I mean, you could, you've seen the one guy in the body bag moving. Well, that was that was a little bit of falsified video because that was a protest where they're protesting playing dead.

1:17:26 And it was, of course, it was put behind a video of a reporter in a mask with a different voice. I mean, that was amateur. I guess my point is this. You could put this information out here and could be used any way you want. They don't actually need dead bodies anymore. You're right. The image, the imagery, and you know what I'm saying, that kind of thing. It's embedded in our minds. It can be triggered. With words, you can trigger the imagery. Totally. Hey, do we need to follow up on Jesse at all? I mean, with his, I'm not suicidal. I think, once again, I think they're going to,

1:18:08 I'll say this. I got to be careful with Jesse because I see him becoming the scapegoat. Just like Epstein was the scapegoat. It's like he used Epstein reference, you know, with his suicide business. We could put everything on Jesse. We could put everything on Epstein. So he's afraid of his own people. Yeah, of course. I mean, who else would he be afraid of? Holy crap. Maybe his own family even. Hey? Could be. I've seen crazy things happen. I don't think he's. more valuable alive than dead right now because he's the easy scapegoat to say, okay, all the ridiculous stuff they can point to him and say, oh, yeah, Jesse.

1:18:53 And it's the same thing with Soros. He's a black Pooty Tang. He's a black Pooty Tang. Right. Right. Damn. So, yeah. So I don't think he, I think he's safer right now, but I think that was out of self-preservation. Yeah. Yeah, like to say, hey, hey, hey, now, you know, just make sure they don't kill me, you know, because we've seen it get ugly. Even with Epstein, I don't even think, I mean, that's just another story from another day, but I think that was more of an extraction than a kid anyway. I know, I know. Because he's way more valuable. I mean, that's kind of like the secondary thing of this show being more valuable alive than dead. That's why we're still on the air, barely, but we're here. That's how you stay. I mean, you got to just run faster than the bear.

CHAPTER 20 / 38 Discussion

Meta Policy Changes on Hate Speech Against Russians

A news report from WION reveals that Meta (Facebook) has temporarily changed its policy to allow calls for violence against Russian "invaders" and soldiers in certain countries. The policy also permits support for the Azov Battalion, a Ukrainian neo-Nazi group previously banned by the platform. The hosts express shock at the fluidity of hate speech rules and the normalization of state-sanctioned animosity toward a specific nationality.

meta· facebook· russia· azov battalion· hate speech· mark zuckerberg

1:19:38 That's all you got. Well, no, it's a run faster than the slowest person. I mean, that's sad that we're in survival mode right now. And just to go show you how hate is like being done now, let's get into Facebook tweets to hate rules. Oh, yeah. Let's not shift our attention to the other big story that we are tracking on Vion, where the U.S. tech giant Facebook has joined the bandwagon to isolate Russia. Facebook has changed its policy on the violent hate speech against the Russian invaders. And the statement follows a report, which is said that Facebook will not restrict calls for violence against Russians and the Russian soldiers in some select countries. The Facebook's parent company, Meta, has said that the political expressions that would normally violate the rules will be allowed.

1:20:20 But the company has said that calls for violence against civilians will not be permitted. The report also showed that Meta will allow the support of the Ukrainian neo-Nazi group, Azov Battalion, in the context of the Ukrainian invasion. The Azov Battalion was listed as a dangerous organization by Facebook in 2016. The ease and restrictions will be allowed, mostly in ex-Soviet republics like Poland, Latvia, Romania, Slovakia, Ukraine, and even Russia. But Facebook did not comment on the policy's geographic boundaries. In the meantime, Facebook has started to clamp down on the Russian claims. Facebook took down the Russian post on the hospital bombing in Mariupol, which said that the maternity house was non-operational and was used by the Ukrainian army.

1:21:03 Twitter has also removed Russia's tweet claiming the same. The Ukraine's digital minister said that Kiev is in fact seeking support from around 50 tech firms in a bid to try and raise awareness against Russia's continued assault on Ukraine. Yeah. I'm glad you found this clip because I was looking for a clip and you clearly had to search pretty far to find one. Oh, yeah. This is from this is from the one, excuse me, the world is one news. And this is non-partisan news, fresh from New Delhi. Yeah, I was going to say. Yeah, because this has been on my radar and it's baffling to me.

1:21:43 It's baffling. It's okay. And the hate speech is okay as long as it's against Russian soldiers. No, no, no, no, it's not what he said. Oh, wow. Maybe we need to listen that one more time. Because I had to listen to this three or four times the way he said it. He said about Russian invaders. He said, no, he said Russians and Russian soldiers. What's not okay is it targeted towards one individual. So you can say, I hate Russians all day. You can say all day. Really? You can wind it back and listen to it if you want because it's very nuanced. Yeah, let's listen again. Sure. Let's not shift our attention to the other big story that we are tracking on Vion, where the U.S.

1:22:21 tech giant Facebook has joined the bandwagon to isolate Russia. Facebook has changed its policy on the violent hate speech against the Russian invaders. And the statement follows the report, which is said that Facebook will not restrict calls for violence against Russians and the Russian soldiers in some cyber countries. Right. The Facebook's parent company, Meta. Subtle. Very subtle. So now you can go in there and say you hate Russia and Russians all you want, and it's okay. And you can show support for known Nazi groups. That's okay. It just boggles the mind. It's designed to. It's so absurd. I believe it's designed to do that to say, whoa.

1:23:05 And if you just think about if you were to say this maybe four or five years ago about everybody Afghanistan, people said, that wouldn't be tolerated. But it's these very fluid rules that makes for even a tougher society as well. And the rules are communicated to us through the media. And it's very effective. So I just wanted to let people know that. So now people might be asking, so what's your beef with Soros? Yeah, Mo, what's your beef with Soros? Mo I have two beefs with Soros.

CHAPTER 21 / 38 Discussion

Open Society Research on Stereotypes and Black Men

A clip from the Open Society Foundations explains the "implicit bias" and "lizard brain" reactions people have toward Black men. The hosts argue that while the research on the amygdala and fear is scientifically accurate, Soros uses this knowledge to manipulate racial tensions. They claim he funds disruptive movements like BLM Inc. and Antifa to trigger these exact psychological responses for political gain.

open society· black lives matter· amygdala· stereotypes· fear· psychological manipulation

1:23:43 One, I'm going to play is how he's going, how he is being, him and the open society have been basically studying black people, specifically black men. And this is from the actual Open Society Web YouTube page. And this is why do black people stereotype, excuse me, why do people stereotype black men ask your brain? You know, most Americans are really very fair-minded, egalitarian people. We believe in equality for all races, all genders. The challenge is that while our conscious selves are egalitarian, we still hold these unconscious or somewhat implicit biases that have been primed in us over many years, largely through media and culture.

1:24:31 One of those stereotypes is we equate black men with fear. When race drops into a conversation, our executive brains shut down on both sides. So if you are a white American who is, you know, a very fair-minded person, when race is presented to you, your brain will start to wonder, you know, is what I'm about to say next going to be perceived by the other person as racist or biased. And if you are of color, your brain likewise shuts down, right? It says, okay, is something about to come at me that might be an opportunity to invalidate my life experience?

1:25:15 Both of your brains are going into fight or flight mode. It's just not a recipe for a meaningful, honest dialogue around something that's so critical and so important. Some of the work that we've been doing with the campaign for black male achievement is really trying to disarm people's anxiety around dealing with race and black men and boys. If you are conscious of the fact that you are stereotyping someone, conscious of the fact that you are treating someone differently when you're confronted in that situation, you will self-correct. That can affect us whether we're talking about our daily informal interactions or whether we are talking about improving the jury instructions or improving the ways teachers or police officers or doctors actually interact with patients who happen to be black men.

1:26:03 Oh, that's really interesting. And I say it for this reason because the more you and I talk, the longer we talk. What have we done now? We've done several hundred hours, I guess. Yes, easily. 300 hours at least. So 300 hours of talking. And I'm still learning so much. And it's changed me so much because, of course, I'm exactly like described. I'm a very nice, loving person. I don't think I'm racist at all. And I'm not, but I have a complete ignorance, like huge ignorance, just didn't learn, didn't know, have no idea. I think you have the same for me, maybe to a lesser extent, maybe not. And, but this goes for all groups, for all groups.

1:26:45 And it's just so sad to see that instead of exploring and talking and having discourse and that being encouraged, the opposite is taking place. And here's my beef with Soros and the lady in the clip. Everything she said was spot on about the lizard brain and flight or fright and these kind of things. That's your amygdala at work right there. Right. They understand this and how stereotypes and how people stereocytes of black men, quote unquote, come out of fear. So you didn't give thought to that when you would say we're going to set buildings on fire for a whole summer, how that would be perceived. Well, no, I hear it differently. I hear

1:27:30 this is the problem, and this is what we use to manipulate people. That's what I hear. It's like we know very well how to manipulate people and this is the mechanism we use. Exactly, but I'm not a damn mechanism. And my image is not a mechanism. I think you hit it spot on right there. Okay, you understand how fear can be triggered by these situations. And then you go on to proceed, you proceed to use your dollars to fund Black Lives Matter, Inc, the Riot, Antifa, riots, all these different things that basically

1:28:12 to win an election and everything that follows that. I mean, it wasn't just an election. It was to win an election so they could bring about what they want, the change that they want to bring about. But that's a good point. And of course, we followed that and tracked it. But, you know, election over, we got the win. Thanks, BLM Inc. Gone. Right. But then you look back and say, okay, that's still all that triggering that you conjured up is still here. And then when you look at the local news, a couple of things happened with those riots.

CHAPTER 22 / 38 Discussion

The Three Waves of Civil Unrest

Mo Facts outlines a "three-wave" theory of the 2020 riots: activists, provocateurs who "break the glass," and a third wave used by the media to demand political change. He argues the unrest was a "mercy vote" tactic designed to convince voters that the chaos would only stop if Donald Trump was removed from office. The hosts discuss the long-term collateral damage of these social engineering tactics on children and community safety.

george floyd· antifa· provocateurs· mercy vote· donald trump· social engineering

1:28:52 One, it told people, shut up, you're not seeing what you're seeing. That's more like you said. These are peaceful protests. That's not fire. That's not fire. It's peaceful. Two, the third wave, you embolden the third wave. That was the whole point of it. The first wave, the second wave. You know, the first wave, let's explain it right quick. The first wave is your activist on the ground after an event like George Floyd happens, right? And they kind of bring attention to it. Then the second wave is the provocateurs. They come out there and break the glass. And that's metaphorical for civility. They break the glass, and then here comes the third wave. And then the third wave is used on the news. This is how this was highlighted.

1:29:35 And it took me a minute to really process how it was highlighted. That third wave was not to embolden the left because the left was going to do what they were going to do. It was to say to the people on the right, this is going to happen until you get Trump out of there. Right. Yes. This is a mercy vote. You know what I'm saying? Just vote the way we want you to vote, and we'll call off our dogs. That's how I see it. And that's why I find it disgusting because they use these people. And of course, you had to be complicit to be used, but nonetheless, when you're triggering people, as they said, with the racial mindset, I mean, it just goes, your brain goes to crap.

1:30:20 Once you know the trick, though, it's easy to use it over and over again. And so, yeah, you don't want to be the lever, just like straight white men are now being used as a lever. And of course, we knew that because that was the warning. We're first, and then everybody else follows. Right. But everybody, every group, and they figured it out. It's like, oh, you know, it's one thing to have really rich donors. You know, the Democrats figured that out by looking at the Republicans, certainly the early Bush, the first Bush years and before. And then they said, well, shit, we can just do this racialized thing.

1:31:02 And I think it's second nature to them, Mo. It's second nature to them now. Yeah, it is second nature to them. But the problem is the collateral damage. Like there was no, okay, how do we exit this plan? This is something Tina and I talk about all the time. It's like, how could they not have thought through the damage masks would do to children and communicative still skills and development? And then how could they have not thought through this financial deplatforming of Russia now that all this stuff is? How could they have not, of course, the answer is on its face, they're doing it on purpose.

1:31:41 Don't be confused that they're confused. Yes. When we look at it through that paradigm, so now, okay, it's intentional. So now, one, here's the problem. And we can get into the donation segment after this, but I just want to highlight this out. For me personally, one, I'm not dumb enough to go along with it, but two, I'm too smart that I see what's going on and I can point it out. So it's like, oh, you won't go along with it. So you're not down. And then the fact where you try to point out, oh, you're anti-Semite. Exactly. Whatever we need to use, we'll use it. And of course, an anti-Semite for a black man is even worse.

1:32:25 Correct. And like I said, it's a running trope or a meme. But so that's like, that's the wrap on the first block. And now we got to think the people that make this happen. First, the white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro. And the so-called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of the white man. Then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only way that they'll ever do it. Yes, this is a value for value proposition. This fantastic walk through history with relative current events.

CHAPTER 23 / 38 Discussion

Value for Value Funding and Community Support

The hosts transition to the "Value for Value" segment, thanking executive producers and donors for supporting the independent show. They discuss the importance of direct listener support in an era of corporate censorship. A listener-contributed transcript database is highlighted as a powerful new research tool for the "Facts Family." The segment concludes with a prayer for a community member battling cancer.

value for value· bitcoin· mofundme· podcasting 2.0· transcripts· mofacts

1:33:06 It's the school known as MoFax with Adam Curry. We're very happy that you're here and enjoying it. The hard times have hit all donations across the board, by the way. I've noticed this on No Agenda and other shows. I think a lot of people are nervous about what's going on. And it shows a little bit in our donations. This is the only way that we could. can make this happen. As you know, there's no commercials, there's no corporate money. There's nothing that goes in here except the love that we want to turn into something useful. And we need support for that. Certainly in the current situation that Mo's in. You still eating, Moe?

1:33:51 I just want to check. Oh, yes. And they only say that half jokingly, but you're hanging in. Yeah, okay. So we could definitely use more support. There's so many different ways to do it. One of them is by getting a new podcast app. You can do that with your boostograms, and we'll read some of those later on in the donation segment, but also Cash App, PayPal. You can find it all at mofax.com. Go directly to the donation page at mofundme.com. And let's thank our executive and associate executive producers for episode number 78. We kick it off with Amy Mullen, $145.15, the big baller for today.

1:34:37 Amy says, hey, Mo and Adam, thank you for the show. Please credit this donation to my husband, John Moochink. Okay, switcheroo. Hold on a second. I'd love me some switcheroo. A few months after he did the Rona. Oh, this is a new thing. We did the Rona? I guess so. I hadn't heard of this. This is a popular new dance. Hey, do the Rona. Step, step, call. He came into the kitchen and proclaimed something like, I finally agree with reparations thanks to a black man. Please D-Deadbeat John, okay? Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat.

1:35:17 And she continues: We had disagreed on reparations/slash atonement before this. Neither of us had facts to back us up. We were just parroting emotionally tinged propaganda from our sides. This show blows our minds in the best possible ways and spurs great discussions. We don't have our sides anymore. We don't agree with each other 100%. I don't agree with y'all 100%, but we'll never make it if as a species and civilization or through this decade, if we can't sit and talk to each other. This is one of the best notes I've read in a while. And specifically because she says, sorry, this note is long. No, it's not. And it's not long. It's timely. It's timely. It's timely, yes. It's a third of the length of my first few drafts.

1:35:59 Your show has given us so much that it's tough to stop saying thank you. Love and light and Mo Karma for all from Amy. And of course, that was for John, and we appreciate that. Thank you very much. You've got Mo Karma. Speaking of the Rona, I still have a voice thing going on, which started after the. And I hear someone else told me, remember, I had hair pain. Yes. Someone told me that my hair might fall out in a couple of months. Oh, no. Exactly. Is it insured? That's my personal third rail, Mo. My hair. You're in good company, man. So I'll call that in the video.

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1:37:25 So kind of is a big baller. Oh, no. Yes, I think we have to ball again. We got an even bigger baller. Had not seen that, Miguel. Thank you so much. Two times 100. And we don't reneg on big ballers. No, we do not ever. No. That was my mistake. No, she gets her big baller status. We can have two balls. I just want to make sure that we sure that that was my mistake. I'm sorry. It's okay. I'm sure everyone will survive. We move on to. I don't know. Get serious. Well, yeah.

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1:38:48 It truly was an accident. Or was it the hand? A glitch. Was it the hand of the Lord? I don't know. You never know how these things happen. The show has been very helpful to expose me to other points of view as well as the mandatory DEIA training, the diversity, equity, inclusion, and what's the A for Alliance? I'm guessing. I don't know. Can I get a D-Dead beating? Oh, Tommy. Can I get a D-Dead beating? Yes, you can. Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat. And he says the MoFacts.com needs an updated Favicon.

1:39:32 Oh, yeah. I think I do I have to do that? I might have to do that. You know, that's where the little icon shows up in your browser. Oh, okay. Okay. It's one of those things. There's a way to do that. I got to look into that. I should know this. It's crazy. I've been doing websites for 30 years. PPS, I also have a non-sequitur question for Adam. How do I get good quality Stropwafel in the States? I just haven't found anything that was as good as what I got in Amsterdam. So far, Trader Joe's comes the closest. Yes. And you know what this is? The Strop Waffle, the Stroop Waffle. Moe, you from the Patrick Remensperger? Is that the little thin? It's a thin wafer, kind of like a waffle with like molasses in the middle.

1:40:11 My man, Jan, that I used to work with at my former place of employment, he used to bring them back fresh from the Netherlands. And that's the point. You cannot get, and if it's not fresh, and we would get them at the baker. I mean, it's never going to taste the same. It's just not. I mean, most people bring them for me because they know I like them when they send them. And I'll eat them, but it's tough going. It's not really the fresh Amsterdam Baker Strop Waffle. I thought there was someone who was making them in the States, actually. I think he said Trader Joe's was pretty good. I think I've had them. Yeah, I've had them before. I mean, that's kind of the same company, but it's not.

1:40:53 It's nowhere near the. You know the story about those two, don't you? Trader Joe's. I don't know. It was two. Oh, yeah, I do know. Yes, yes, yes. Two brothers, and they got in a fight. See? Tarren Franklin. See? Yeah, over one wanted to sell tobacco products and the other one didn't. And they said, screw it. So now they have their two separate companies. And I have to do this now because I apologize. It's irking me. This donation list is crap, but it's not my fault. This is something else we're missing. It's Bill Gates. No, because those two added together should have been. I know you're upset. It's okay. Don't worry about it. No, you know how that man's my Mo C D. It's just flares on the street.

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1:44:14 Oh, no, of course you can't see that. What am I talking about? I will, of course, put the link in the show notes at MoFax.com. This is pretty cool. I love this kind of stuff. So we have transcripts on every single show. And we've been going back and we've been, Dreb Scott has been adding chapters and been trying to retroactively put some stuff in. The transcripts are really fantastic because it's a great way to find stuff. You can find stuff in any podcast player that supports it. Oh, man, there's Rona thing. Excuse me. But he's put together a database where you can go in and search stuff and it'll show you each episode where you need to go.

1:44:56 So this will be really powerful as a research tool. And also when we go like, what was that in again? What show was that? Boom, it'll show up. Exactly, because it'll help me go back. I'll definitely be using it. Love that, man. Thank you so much, Clued. That's really appreciated. Chad Farrow, 333. Chad, we appreciate, man. We love you. And Fightless Birds, 33 sats. Those are your boostograms. Get a new podcast app at newpodcastapps.com. You can also, you can send all kinds of amounts to that. As big as you want, as small as you want, but definitely every single time you open a new podcast app, you know, MoFax with Adam Curry will be there. It can't be deplatformed or taken away. And we'll thank a couple more producers in our second segment.

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1:46:23 Yes. Yes. She's been in our prayers for a bit here. Yeah. I mean, I had it in the list I created and said, just keep that's the thing, guys. Just time and talent. The treasure also helps. I'm cool, but at the same time, it's some big stuff I'm trying to pull off. And I need help with that. Yeah, with the treasure part. I'll say it for you. Yes. And all that, but like I said, I'm good. I just want to let everybody know, like, it's just, we're trying to, as you've seen with the transcript thing, we're trying to grow this thing to something that's going to be and know that, you know, every week there's something going on because we also have the lost tapes on the alternating Wednesdays.

1:47:08 And have you been doing other, any other one-off rips with anybody in between? I might not know. No, I haven't because I've been focusing my time on the things that we have under the under the coverage thing. Under development, yeah. Yeah, under development. So it's, that's eating into my time as well. But I plan to get, I have a to-do list of people I have to talk to, and I plan to get back on that. But yeah, like I said, just I want to pull these big things off. So we just need the treasure as well as the time and talent. But yeah. So just to get back on the upbeat. Yes. Upbeat. Back to Soros.

CHAPTER 24 / 38 Discussion

George Soros and AstroTurf in the 2016 Election

A throwback clip from Dave Pakman explores the theory that George Soros funded "AstroTurf" movements within Black Lives Matter to attack Bernie Sanders during the 2016 primary. The hosts discuss the vastness of the Open Society Institute, noting that it is a massive organization with many "ambassadors" and purse-string holders, making it more than just the whims of one man.

bernie sanders· george soros· astroturf· hillary clinton· ferguson· color of change

1:47:46 Where are we? Right. That's the upbeat. Yeah. No, so what we have now is just, here's a weird paradox because we have Dave Pacman. This is from show seven that tells you how far back we've been talking about Soros. And this is him who was from a Jewish lineage saying that Soros was using AstralTurf via Black Lives Matter to attack Bernie Sanders, who is also of Jewish descent. So it's just. it's just getting this throwback clip. And I have a very, very specific idea that we need to explore seriously, which is that the anti-Bernie Sanders tinge of the Black Lives Matter movement recently could be George Soros-funded AstroTurf.

1:48:35 And I will speak as specifically as possible, Lewis, and then I will allow you, Lewis, to tell me what you think about this. It's widely on record that George Soros, the liberal billionaire, has poured a ton of money into two movements that were instrumental in creating Black Lives Matter and the buzzword. Dating back to January, we knew that George Soros spent over $30 million bankrolling Ferguson demonstrators. And of course, Ferguson relates to Officer Darren Wilson, who killed unarmed teenager Michael Brown and was ultimately not charged. This includes support by George Soros of groups like Colorlin's News for Action,

1:49:15 Organization for Black Struggle, which established itself, then established the Hands Up Coalition. Soros also gave money to the Drug Policy Alliance, which worked on pushing Black Lives Matter as a buzzword, which has since been incorporated into speeches by political figures, including Hillary Clinton. There's a real fallacy in this, I'm realizing. I'm glad we're talking about this. You know, if you look at the Open Society Institute website, this is not one man. This is a vast, vast organization with ambassadors, not like political ambassadors, but ambassadors to the Open Society Institute, people,

1:49:59 you know, like elites, royalty, princesses, and princes. This is a very, very, very big organization. A lot of people control the purse strings. It's not just George Soros saying, oh, I got an idea. And you rarely hear about it because that's really, it's big. That thing is vast. And I doubt he hears half of the ideas this pitched. Of course. Like any big organization, sure. Right. He holds people responsible, accountable for decision-making on their appropriate level, and they just sign checks and say, okay, yeah, it sounds good. Let me write you a check. You know, that kind of thing. And this is, but at the end of the day, it's his money.

1:50:45 And so he's accountable for how his money is being spent. And as you can see, it definitely went into fueling Black Lives Matter Inc. And that's a problem because we know what their stance is towards black men. And at the same time, you can't say he's not aware or doesn't know because we just heard the last clip coming from the Open Society about stereotypes and complete knowledge, complete knowledge of what's going on. So it's like, but I'm not confused that they're confused. I think they play both sides. Even when he probably makes his bets against the market, I'm sure there's some kind of

CHAPTER 25 / 38 Discussion

The Power of District Attorneys in the Justice System

The Heritage Foundation provides a breakdown of the immense power held by the 2,300 District Attorneys in the U.S. These officials decide which cases to prosecute and which to ignore, serving as a reflection of local views on justice. Adam Curry shares a personal anecdote about a friend who faced a harsh felony conviction for a financial dispute, illustrating the arbitrary nature of prosecutorial discretion.

district attorneys· justice system· prosecution· financial fraud· bureau of justice statistics

1:51:31 hedge there. So these are the hedges, right? It's like, okay, yeah, we're going to bet on this side and we're going to bet on this side. And, you know, no matter how it comes out, we'll make some money off of it, which is smart business. I mean, I'm not mad at him about the business, but it's when you play ignorant when I point it out, that's gaslighting. Yeah. And that's where the problem comes in. So we have people over at the Heritage Foundation provide this next set of clips. And this is George Soros and the destruction of law and order. When we talk about the justice system, we typically think about judges.

1:52:12 And for good reason, they have tremendous power. But what about other parts of the justice system? What about district attorneys? The way the system works is that judges hear the cases and deliver the opinions. But district attorneys typically decide what cases to even bring before the judge. According to the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics, there are over 2,300 district attorneys in the U.S.,

1:52:48 all wielding tremendous power to decide what crimes to prosecute, what penalties to push for, and maybe most importantly, what crimes not to prosecute. They are the truest reflection of how a locality views justice. Yep. I've witnessed this myself. myself close up. Yeah, me as well. But I think a lot of people don't understand how powerful that position is. But I'll tell my story, and that may give a different light. A friend of mine in California was involved in something that I would say looked like financial fraud.

1:53:33 The total amount was two, and it was not, you know, it was a company transaction and had to do with copyrights and licensing. So it wasn't, it wasn't cut and dry like, you know, shit was in a warehouse and going out the back on trucks. It had more to do with almost with labeling. But it was a $250,000 problem. And he paid the $250,000 and then he went to jail for 18 months as a felony. And he's fucked. His life is still four years later in shambles. And, you know, to me, that was unnecessary.

1:54:13 Yeah, they pick and choose. They pick and choose. Yeah, because someone knew the district attorney and this guy got the book thrown at him. Man, that's that's so that's that's another side, and people can say, oh, boo-hoo, you know, but I've seen, and now I think, oh, man, you have someone who goes in with nothing. You ain't coming out with anything ever. Or do they? I mean, this is this. Well, that's the next point. Yes, exactly. Okay. So with that said, we realize what the power of the district attorney is, and you don't hear this on the mainstream news.

CHAPTER 26 / 38 Discussion

Newt Gingrich and the Fox News Soros Gag

A viral clip shows Newt Gingrich being silenced by Fox News anchors Harris Faulkner and Melissa Francis when he mentions George Soros's role in funding progressive District Attorneys. The hosts analyze the "awkward exchange" as evidence of a "forbidden" topic even on conservative networks. They joke about the instructions being barked into the anchors' earpieces to protect corporate interests and campaign donors.

newt gingrich· fox news· harris faulkner· censorship· political funding· earpiece

1:54:54 Let's go ahead and get to the second part of this clip. If you were paying attention to the news a couple weeks ago, you might have caught this, well, awkward exchange on the Fox News channel between Newt Gingrich, Harris Faulkner, and Melissa Francis discussing the costs of the recent damage from the riots. The number one problem in almost all these cities is George Soros elected left-wing anti-police, pro-criminal district attorneys who refuse to keep people locked up. Progressive district attorneys are anti-police, pro-criminal, and overwhelmingly elected with George Soros's money.

1:55:37 And they're a major cause of the violence we're seeing because they keep putting the violent criminals back on the street. I'm not sure we need to bring George Soros into this. I was going to say, Baker. He paid for it. Why can't we discuss the fact that millions of dollars? I agree with Alexa. George Soros doesn't need to be a part of this conversation. Okay. So it's for both. All right. We're going to. Okay. We're going to move on. Boy.

1:56:18 Awkward indeed. Man, I love that you brought that clip back. That is so good. That was Newt's goodbye. And since when can't we talk about who's funding political campaigns? In a way, this is kind of like a censorship. Voter suppression. Of course. Of course. It was just an unbelievable. It's an unbelievable piece of video. Especially the fact that it was Fox. So this goes to show you that even within a network, they give airtime to Tucker Carlson, but it's like, okay, you can be on at night, right? You can be on at night. But during the daytime, we can't discuss that.

1:57:02 Certain people are watching. Well, also, don't make no mistake that 99% of all, and maybe Tucker's the only one and maybe not. These people are mostly just reading scripts. They're reading questions. I mean, I've been here. I know exactly how it works. And there's an earpiece. And they're being told, no, no, no, we're not going to talk about Soros. Cut him off. And then smoke comes out of the ears and that's the result. Not because they have any, they don't even, they know, they're just like, these are news models. But that's the institution. That's the institution. And you can't talk about it. It's crazy. But they're bringing Russia back into this for a minute. You're saying not too much, but same thing.

1:57:43 Right. When you hear Tucker Carlson, when it goes off, you come, what's the other guy behind him? Sean Hannity. Sean Hannity. It's like it's a 180-degree pivot. Yeah, Sean's all pro-war and let's go get Putin. Once again, it's jarring. So it goes to show you that even within these. these same news operations, they have wide, not even wide, but just polar opposite, you know what I'm saying, viewpoints. Which is, which is kind of how it should be, except it's one little Tucker Carlson is one piece.

1:58:23 And he, I mean, I certainly am not all in on everything he says. Right. But it should at least not be the same voice, same message all the time, which is the rest of Fox. It's pretty similar. When it comes to war, for sure. And that's the thing right there. It's warhawks. Yeah. Hey, look at, we just spent $1.5 trillion. I mean, we're going to go print it, but that was the bill, literally the bill, and how much the bill was. And $780 million of that goes to the military.

1:59:01 So if you don't think that money's not circling around and isn't important in what gets mentioned on television or what gets to the top of the media, you're crazy. Not saying you, Mo, but I'm just saying in general. That's why. I mean, just follow the money. And that's the, like I said, that's the running, secondary running theme of this show: you have to make the dollars and cents of it. So through my digging, I was able to find the actual what was being heard in the earpieces doing this. Really? Yes. Oh, I love it. Can you play it?

1:59:39 Yes. Speaker Gengrich, I know you have a final thought for us. Yeah, look, the number one problem in almost all these cities is George Soros elected left-wing, anti-police, pro-criminal district attorneys who refuse to keep people locked up. Just yesterday, they put somebody back on the street who's wanted for two different murders in New York City. You cannot solve this problem. And both Howard and Biden have talked very proudly about what they call progressive district attorneys. Progressive district attorneys are anti-police, pro-criminal, and overwhelmingly elected with George Soros' money.

2:00:22 And they're a major cause of the violence we're seeing because they keep putting the violent criminals back on the street. Oh, what did he say? What did he say? Oh, my God. What are you guys? Oh, no, Michael. What did that say? Oh, you are here, Micah. Listen, so we'll go together once. Come on. What? Come on. Cut the feed. Cut it. Cut it. Cut it. Listen to me. Oh, listen to me. Listen to me. Listen to the Daisy Hollit. Listen. You need to cut out his thumb. We can have no mention of the Soros man. Cut it. How are you talking? Remember, he paid for your Both.

2:01:03 Pretty much what I said. So, I mean, that's a joke, but that's kind of you, if you can see the visual. And I have lived in these studios. That's really how it goes. And the weird thing about that whole clip was the anchor was like staring, like, seriously, you want me to steer him away that hard away from it? Because she like froze like a deer in her head. She did, yeah. And was like, what do I say? Because she knew it was going to be weird. And he was like, oh, so it's just for Bowden. Yes. Yes. You cannot talk about Soros. And this was right in the middle of the heated election process.

CHAPTER 27 / 38 Discussion

Justice and Public Safety PAC Funding Reform DAs

The segment examines the "Justice and Public Safety PAC," chaired by Whitney Timus, which uses Soros's donations to elect "reform-minded" prosecutors. These DAs prioritize reducing confinement and seeking lesser charges for non-violent offenses. The hosts argue that these policies have led to increased crime in major cities, claiming the "safety" promised by these groups is a facade that victimizes the poor.

whitney timus· open secrets· progressive prosecutors· incarceration· public safety· reform

2:01:48 So that goes to show you the lengths that they went to that their listeners, Fox listeners, couldn't even hear about Soros. They take the political money that goes into advertising is just as green when it's from George Soros. Makes no difference to Fox. Makes no difference. That's why we're value for value. That's why we can truly speak our mind. It's the only way. The only way. It's the only way it can happen. So let's go ahead and get back into the destruction of Law and Order 3. But why not bring George Soros into this? It's apparent that Soros is indeed funding an effort to support district attorney candidates who want to fundamentally change how district attorneys function.

2:02:36 Enter the Justice and Public Safety Pact and its chair, Whitney Timus. We're looking for challengers who are interested in truly changing their offices once elected. So we're looking for forward-thinking, reform-minded prosecutors. Now, these are folks who are more likely to be. focused on creating policy that would result in reducing unnecessary confinement, right? Or prioritizing treatment over incarceration or looking for diversion, opportunities to divert people out of the system or seeking lesser charges for nonviolent offenses, for example, holding police officers accountable.

2:03:29 According to opensecrets.org, this group has and is funding several district attorney campaigns in cities big and small around America and speaks openly about their intentions to use money George Soros donates to replace traditional DAs with so-called reform-minded DAs. They claim they're doing this for greater justice and more safety. But as we've seen with the recent riots, many of these cities that have been damaged the most have DAs who have either been supported by Soros-type groups or they're of the same judicial philosophy.

2:04:12 I must say the music is really painful. It is, right? I wish there was some way I could scrub the music out of these clubs. You can't, but okay. Yeah, and that's that's the other thing. Who's making this? I mean, over the Heritage Foundation, yeah, y'all gonna have to get into the 21st century. The style is not gonna get your information out. Yeah, very, very, very level when Apple had those makeup-like laptops with all the pretty colors. That's when this bullshit started. Bloom, bloom, bloom, bloom, bloom, bloom. Oh, yes, the iBook. What was it? The iCompact, all that shit. Delivery matters. You know what I'm saying? Delivery definitely matters.

2:04:58 But what I want to point out in this is they said they were doing it for the safety, the safety of who? Right. Are you that dense that you don't understand if you keep letting people out of jail repeatedly and then you give them the freedom to do what they did for the whole summer of 2020? You think they're just going to shut it off at their election? It don't work that way. I'm kind of afraid where this is going. I mean, if this is headed towards a new crime bill at the end of the show, I think that's we've talked about it before, but I don't think we've heard on the last show. That's that's kind of what we're feeding off that as well. Yeah. Biden said we're going to fund the police. And I don't think he's talking about guys in blue uniforms and cars.

2:05:42 They're talking about surveillance and technology. Technology and DNA, surveillance, eye in the sky, social credit score. Yep. Yeah. How I see this being is this is just in my mind. Your certain credit score is going to allow you to be in certain areas. And those are going to be quote-unquote slums. And people, it's not going to be, well, it's going to be tied to economic status as well, but you can't live in, you can't go outside of these zones unless you have a certain score at certain times. Right. And I think that's how they're going to implement this whole thing. But they're like, oh, yeah, that's progress. It's like, yeah, because you get to go and live in your nice neighborhood with your private police.

2:06:26 But the poor people you're saying that you think you're working for are the ones that are going to be victimized. You create laws like, oh, anything under $1,000 is not a real crime. It's like, well, thieves, no. Like, I'm only going to steal everything that's $999.99. You know, and you got to let me out. Man, so it's very, it's the reason why this really upsets me is the fact that it's people that are, if they could go to better places, they would. It's like, this is the only place they can go. And you've even made that more dangerous. This is your solution for what? I mean, but it's for the greater good because they have that mentality.

2:07:10 If they die, they die. It's for, you know, it's good for the planet. Very sick. Very, very sick. Sick is the right word. These people who are doing this are sick. But they're lizards. So, I mean, I get it. I understand. They're not people. Yeah, they're lizards. Yeah, of course. Yeah, I get it. I get it. You know what I'm saying? It's like, okay, we got to fight. And flight is not an option. We can't leave. So this is where they're going with it. Well, I guess we can go ahead and get some number four. So what would our justice system look like if far-left DAs transformed it toward more lenient and compassionate outcomes or challenged laws they didn't agree with by declining to even bring charges?

CHAPTER 29 / 38 Discussion

The Demand for a Conservative George Soros

The hosts critique the Heritage Foundation's desire for a "conservative Soros" to fund their own brand of social control. They discuss how the modern information landscape is dominated by headlines and "filters," where facts are less important than viral propaganda. They argue that both the left and right are offering different versions of the same "crap sandwich" involving increased surveillance and state control.

george soros· heritage foundation· propaganda· social media· paywalls· headlines

2:12:57 Throw the baby out with a bathwater idea that really many of these ideas that have come up that you just hit on are going to be devastating to so much of American life in ways that I don't think we can even really consider right now. Just the threat to public safety, the threat to law and order, the threat to security. Oh, man. He's asking for exactly the same thing. He doesn't want more officers, he wants more technology. He wants more surveillance. Oh, my goodness. I'm hearing it now. In ways that I don't think we can even really consider right now. Just the threat to public safety, the threat to law and order, the threat to security,

2:13:39 the instability and chaos that we were already seeing it play out in the streets and the lack of accountability for the people who are engaged in it. I mean, we have cops being shot. Every night we have buildings being burned down, and there's no, there doesn't seem to be any real head insight, and there doesn't seem to be any idea as to how we're going to get out of this right now. Yeah, yeah, who's our George Soros that's going to fund the opposite direction of where he's going? Wow. How do we even begin to look to push back or even make a dent in what's been going on? Yeah, I mean, I think we have to win sort of the middle.

2:14:19 People who are of goodwill, who are open-minded, who maybe right now are subject to the influence of what they're seeing on some of the cable news networks, and they believe the cops are evil or they should be defined. I mean, these are, I'm talking about people who are generally reasonable and rational, but they've been led down this road. And the way to push back is to provide facts and to try to hope those facts take hold. Unfortunately, in our age of social media, facts are less important, I think, than they've ever been. Hmm. Okay. And propaganda is more important than it's ever been. Yeah. No kidding. No kidding. I'm glad you called it out without me having to say it.

2:15:02 They're all asking for who's our Soros. Yes. Who's going to be our daddy? Yeah. Oh, no. Yeah, that'll work. Oh, that's a good idea. Let's do exactly the same. That'll be fine. Yeah. And who's our daddy? Jeez. That's why we can't get to any solution because everybody's looking for the same solution, just their brand of it. I know how to control the slaves best. And then she turned it over to me. Foundation. I wonder how much money they have. That's not a small organization. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not at all. I wonder. I can't. They are a non-profit.

2:15:43 So what do they have? Oh, so their total revenue, revenue, 81 million a year. And they have 250 million in assets. Well, that's why they're asking who's our Soros. Yeah. Who's going to get us in the billions? Like, Open Society. Right. Yeah. We're only quarter to build, bro. Yeah. They can't fight Soros with his little tiddlywink money here. Get me some real cash. Yeah. That's, like I said, I'm glad you picked up on what they were putting down because it's like, and that's the whole thing. It's like the two options they give you is the same.

2:16:26 It's like, you know, would you like, would you like sesame seeds on that crap sandwich or no sesame seeds? It's like, I don't want to eat crap. Yeah. It's like, we gave you an option. You know, take the option. But yeah, I mean, it's, that's why we had to create our own options like you're doing with like podcasting 2.0 with like this show here. We come and like, let's get into the middle. Let's seek first to understand and then be understood. As you heard in the letter from Amy, just the sheer conversation opened them up to be able to talk to each other and talk to other people. So it makes a big difference, man. Every day I hear someone talking about it.

2:17:10 Same thing. And this is the only way because as he did point out, I think his name is Jason Johnson pointed out. Facts, they don't matter as much as they used to. Everything is headlines, propaganda. As you pointed out with the news story, as I brought up with the news story, you pointed out with the quote-unquote dead Ukrainian in the body bag moving around. You could take that and spin it any way you want to. Whoever sees it has an effect on them. The same way with the P-Dossier, the same thing. You hear about it as an effect on you. There's one other thing. thing that I want to add:

2:17:47 the abbreviated nature of our information intake. Most headlines that are put on social media lead to literally a headline and a little bit of copy, and then it's paywall. So, you know, and people are now just not even making the effort to click to even see if there's a paywall. They just take a screenshot. So now we literally are only communicating in headlines. It's very, it's very bad. Headlines, the image. Yeah. But it's the same way. Headlines and filters. Headlines and filters.

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Sherry Lynn Ifill and the Central Park Birdwatcher Incident

Sherry Lynn Ifill, former president of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund and former Open Society board member, discusses the 2020 Central Park encounter between Amy Cooper and Christian Cooper. She frames the incident as a display of "white privilege" and the weaponization of police. The hosts critique the modern habit of filming every confrontation to "clout chase" or go viral, regardless of the original context.

sherry lynn ifill· naacp· gwen ifill· central park· amy cooper· white privilege

2:18:26 That's our world. And it's the same thing on the YouTube side. Everything I post in our clip list is majority of the time, I say 90% of the time, is that headline from whatever source I got it from. Like this was called George Soros and the Destruction of Law and Order. You know, that's the headline. But they don't let you know that, oh, our structure is pretty much the same. Same thing. Same thing. Yeah. Right. So now we've talked about the Soros sisters, and I found a big one. Sherry Lynn Eiffel. Is this Gwen's sister?

2:19:08 I don't know. Hmm. There aren't many Eiffels out there. I don't. Is Gwen black? Gwen Eiffel was extremely black, yes. Okay. I'm not familiar with Glenn Gwen. Well, Gwen passed away. She worked for PDF. Oh, the PBS. Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, she died. Yeah, here it is. Gwen, it was her first cousin. There you go. Oh, Boule. You're calling Gwen back home. Sherry Lynn. She is the president and director of counsel at the NAACP Legal Defense.

2:19:50 Another legal defense. You just opposed that to Jason Johnson from the Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund. And before that, she was the education. She was the, excuse me, she was the president of the president and director, director counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund. I can't forget the educational part, but it's abbreviated LDF. But before that, she was board chairman of U.S. programs at the Open Society. Oh, no. Oh, no. She's schooled. Right. So I want to listen to this clip to get inside

2:20:35 the thinking of a person that would be on the Open Society, how they feel about race, and she goes into the black code as well. Just in the weeks preceding the George Floyd video, there were a couple of other videos that came out. Yeah. One was an encounter in Central Park. A white woman tells a black bird watcher that if he doesn't stop taping her after he had told her to put her dog on a leash, which was required in that part of the park, she tells him if he doesn't stop taping her, she's going to call the police and tell them that a black man is threatening her life. Please call the clubs. I'm going to tell them there's an African-American man threatening my life. Please tell them whatever you like.

2:21:18 What did you see and hear in that tape? I saw white privilege on full display and the full realization of white people that they can weaponize the police, that the police are their private constabulary. That if they just feel like they're maybe losing an argument, they can call the police. They're going to lead with the race issue because they know that the police will come and view the scene in a very particular way. They know. That's why when white people say, we didn't know, when they see these videos and they say, we didn't know it was this bad and we didn't know,

2:22:00 they do know. They know that the state works for them. And they know that the state and law enforcement is embedded with the same narratives that they likely grew up with. Yeah, we discussed this previously, didn't we? I believe so. But just to familiarize people with the case, I guess the guy told the lady to put her dog back on the leash and she got out rate, went into full Karen mode, and was like, oh, no, you know what I'm saying? Don't stop. I guess one thing, filming a person, I don't think that's a good way to approach a situation. That was a mistake on his part. Right. But it also goes to show you that, you know. know, I don't think there's too many ardent

2:22:44 Trump supporters in Central Park. She didn't give me those vibes. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. She was. Oh, no, no, no, not at all. But, but let's just stop for a second. Yes. Because this guy was no slouch. He wasn't some hoodlum, you know, the guy who was filming. But where we've gotten to today, when overarching problem, right? We weren't there, so we don't really know what happened. But as you said, she had her dog off the leash. He took, and it's not legal or whatever. And he said, hey, could you please put your, I don't know what, if he said it that way, if he said, hey, could you please put your dog back on the leash or hey, lady, you know, could be any of those versions.

2:23:24 And then in today's society, when someone says, no, I disagree, or I'm, you know, or freaks out or whatever, then we immediately go and film it. This is actually a big problem. Everything else that comes after it, big problem. But that fact alone that we do that shit, that's that's as bad as calling the police in my book. It's so stupid. Everybody wants to go viral. Exactly. Everybody wants that viral moment. You know, I don't think they understand what comes with it. No clue. No, they have no clue. Sometimes good, sometimes really fantastic. You can spit it into a whole thing.

2:24:05 And you heard the guy from 60 Minutes, I forget his name, mention that we had several videos. So now everybody's looking for that, you know, key racial moment. Right. I mean, let me catch this on video so I can, you know, win in the clout game. And my point is: tell her to put her dog on the leash, keep it moving. I don't understand why people got to be arguing with people over stuff. But I want to belabor the point, but I want to get into this next clip because it seemed like he was the one being the dog leash police in this case, like put your dog on the leash. You know what I'm saying? Kind of thing. Exactly. Now we got to think about that. And now, in the mindset of what's going on in New York right now

CHAPTER 31 / 38 Discussion

Black Codes and Modern Freedom Papers

Ifill compares modern police calls on Black citizens to the "Black Codes" of the post-Civil War era, where Black people were required to show employment papers to travel. The hosts flip this analogy to criticize COVID-19 vaccine mandates in New York City, calling them modern "freedom papers." They highlight the hypocrisy of requiring papers for athletes like Kyrie Irving while allowing unmasked fans to attend games.

black codes· civil war· freedom papers· vaccine mandates· kyrie irving· eric adams

2:24:44 with certain protocols. Yes. And now in that mindset, listening to Sherry Lynn and her, how she views how things should be enforced. And so she tells this black man to his face, she knows she's being videotaped, that she is going to weaponize the New York City Police Department. She's going to weaponize them against him if he doesn't stop filming her. There is an African-American man hiding in such a park. He's recording me threatening myself and my dog. It's a powerful moment and moment for pause for us to think about the kind of power that we put into the hands of the average white person who believes that they are deputized to control the movements of black people.

2:25:29 This is actually what existed after the Civil War with the creation of black codes, where black people could be questioned by any white person and asked to show their papers showing their employment, that some white person employed them and that therefore they had the right to be on a public road. That's how they used to try to police us after the Civil War. After we were theoretically free from slavery, they created these state codes and city ordinances that controlled our conduct. And that's what you see when you see, you know, all of these people who call 911 on black people having a barbecue or standing outside their house or whatever they're calling about.

2:26:07 Teenagers going to a swim party. Teenagers going to a swim party is the fundamental belief of most white people that they have the right to question a black person's legitimacy and essentially ask the black person to show their freedom papers, essentially, to show their to show that they have the right to enter this building, to be in this hallway, to be in the gym we saw recently, right? Holy crap. Well, y'all, y'all, y'all were, y'all were really early on with that shit. You got the freedom papers, but now that's expanded. Now I'm black too.

2:26:45 Freedom papers for the Rona. When I tell you about the mask, when we first started talking about the Rona, when you were saying when you went out without a mask on, oh, yeah. Oh, totally. Yeah, it was a great, I mean, it wasn't a great experience, but it was, it was very eye-opening. That, that, uh, ah, like, you know, following the rules. I'll tell the story, please. And we were still in Austin, and it wasn't really, I'm not quite sure. At a certain point, I was just done with the mask. I don't even know what the status or level was. I don't care. I was like, I'm just want to walk into Whole Foods. I'm just going to go about my business and I'm just going to not wear my mask and I'll see what happens.

2:27:26 And it'll be, I want to know what's good. How are people really feeling about this? Well, I get yelled at, and it was fucking weird. It was, I was worried. I had to sit in the car. I said, I don't put my mask in my back because, you know, in my back pocket, just in case, you know, I don't want to get into any altercations. And no one, and what was interesting is nobody cared. I still, it was, it was, on one hand, it was like, oh my God, I feel so good doing this. But it was very weird. And I, and I most specifically remember, remember another guy without a mask, and we gave one of those up, bro. And it was like, and I totally understood the analogy. I totally got it.

2:28:09 Totally. If anything go down, I got your back. That's right. Right, right. So, and now, does that mean? I don't, I don't know if that means that I have white privilege. No, what that is, is just that you, the fact that you can live unaware is how everybody should be able to live unaware. I'm not going to, when I walk into a store, I'm not thinking with this mind of, oh, how am I being perceived? That's it. Right, right, right, right, right. Through the social norms, now you have to worry about how you're being perceived because I had a maskless moment here recently.

2:28:50 I mean, the allergies, you probably can hear it during the show, you know, the allergies and stuff are kicking up. And I was in a store without a mask on the other day. And I started coughing. And people looked at me was like, like, Koof alert, Koofalert. You know what I'm saying? And I'm self-conscious. I'm trying to stop. You know what I'm saying? Because I wouldn't worry about, I mean, guys with hazmat suits coming in, like, bag him, bag him. Right. So that's the kind of thing I can understand where they're going from. But here with Sherry Lynn, it's amazing how these walking paper or these papers that you talk about. How do you feel about how New York's going on right now? I mean, like with Kyrie Irving, look at the situation with him.

CHAPTER 32 / 38 Discussion

The Breakdown of Discourse and Neighborhood Policing

Adam Curry shares a story about singer Richard Marx trying to get him fired from MTV over a joke about his hair. The hosts discuss the breakdown of direct human discourse, where neighbors now call the police or use social media to resolve minor conflicts instead of talking to each other. They also note the shift in the show "Cops" on Fox Nation, which now predominantly features white perpetrators to avoid racial controversy.

richard marx· mtv· social media· neighborhood watch· cancel culture· fox nation

2:29:34 You know, Devorah, Devorah, I keep saying, oh, it's going to, it's all about the bet. He says, as soon as the odds are in the right place, then he says Mayor Adams is going to drop it just in time for Kyrie to play. Well, Kyrie just had 40 points and one half of it last night. So, I mean, that just lets you know how ridiculous it is a person of that level to score 40-something points and one half. And they say, no, you can't play though. But especially since the fans are allowed to be unmasked. The whole thing is nuts. It makes no sense. And even more, that's why I said it's ridiculous for her to sit here and say this about walking papers.

2:30:14 And you clearly, you, you like literally, literally have to have papers to move around New York or did. I don't think I think they're extending them. It's kind of in a gray area right now. Yeah, the business mandates are pretty much still in place. I mean, most businesses have not dropped it. They're just like, hey, we got to prove you got it. I wonder how she feels about that. I would love to ask her. What is the Open Society's standpoint on asking people to have movie, having freedom papers just to move about New York City? How would you feel about that? That would be good to confront her with, wouldn't it? We should set up an interview, like podcast. We'll really play to her ego. We'll play really dumb and then we'll just pop this shit on her. See what happens.

2:30:58 Because the thing is, is this is how you win this battle when you put people in a paradigm where it's like they have to face the hypocrisy and the just sheer nonsense of it. Like GBG, that's why people, I think, that's why I got so popular with people because it's like, okay, yeah. You want to protect black people? Why don't you give them guns? And it's like, oh, no, we can't give them guns because we're anti-gun. So I think how memes work. I hope that the fax machine is working on at least t-shirts or hoodies or something with GBG on it. Oh, yes. That's so badass. I want that real bad. AK on it.

2:31:39 Perfect. And that's like I said, that's how you win this war by being clever. And now let's go back to Central Park for a minute. That's why I called the dude the dog Nazi because he was like, hey, put your dog on a leash. It's like, I don't know if the dogs bother him or not. I can't speak to that. But what I'm saying is the fact that when you get into a combative situation by trying to force something on somebody else, it's, I mean, like, hey, you know, you can say, hey, man, put your dog on the leash and keep it moving. But it's just like this need to enforce law on somebody else.

2:32:19 That's, that's, that was the weird paradigm and paradox for this situation because he was the one actually enforcing the code on her. You know, yes, yes, that's what. what I said. And I've long said, certainly in the United States, we've picked up some very bad habits of always solving everything with third parties. I'm going to sue you. I'm going to call the teacher, the principal, whatever. I'm going to call the cops, you know. It's no longer possible, I guess, to go over to your neighbors and say, hey, it's 10 o'clock. You just turned down a little bit. No, you can't do that. That discourse people don't even know their neighbors, probably. And I would say that goes all the way down to the breakdown of family and church, etc.

2:33:04 Fine. And now we've added this extra dimension, which is kind of instead of a lawyer, we just throw that shit up on social media and we just let the public decide, you know, and it's skewed, it's biased, and it's messed up. And that has kind of now become the poor man's, so to speak, legal defense fund. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm just going to throw that on Twitter. I'm going to throw that on YouTube. Without any context or anything, no, of course not. No, of course not. So, I mean, so that's that's and it worked well for this man, I think. He got a good one out of it. I think he ended up like saying they took it too far with her. I mean, I forget, it slips my mind how it ended.

2:33:48 I think they were trying to get her fired. That was one thing, which I understand as well. Like, trying to get somebody fired. Yeah, it's so lame. Oh, you know, who tried that? Richard Marks tried to get me fired from MTV. What are you trying to get you fired for, Adam? Do you know the story? No, I do not know the story. Oh, I was doing the top 20 countdown, and you know, Richard Marks was, you know, he was always on there. He had monstrous hits. And, you know, so, and this is a scripted show, so there's some jokes built in. And I came out of his clip. I said, Richard Marks and his hair at number, you know, 14, whatever, which is,

2:34:26 I think, certainly seeing my coffee of the day is quite okay. You know, I can, as a hair guy, I could say that. And he got so pissed off, and he went to the executives and he said, Giga get Curry off the air. And it was, it was messed up. You didn't respect his third rail, Adam. I guess not. Hey, I was, I was a dumb news model. What can I tell you? I was just reading what I was supposed to read. Sorry, but yeah. It's like I said, everybody is far too sensitive, especially the weird thing with me is now family calling the police on family. That to me is that sucks. And then you're going to have to get bail money to bail them out so they can make it to work by Monday.

2:35:08 It's like, then they're going to get fired and had to borrow money from you. But I digress. It's just the weirdest thing is like, we're calling police on family now? Like, is that what we're doing? It's just the dumbest thing ever. Well, speaking of money, okay. I was just going to say, have you seen the new cops on Fox Nation? I have not. Now, the old cops, we all remember. What was it basically? Either bait prostitutes or bait drug deals, and they would chase the guy down over that. That's my right. And would you say that the majority of the perpetrators were black on cops? Either black or Latino. Okay. So the new cops, which is back.

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Final Producer Credits and Bitcoin Support

The hosts conclude the second donation segment, thanking "Associate Executive Producers" and "Boostogram" senders. They express their preference for "new money" in the form of Bitcoin and digital streaming sats. They emphasize that the "Value for Value" model is the only way to maintain a show that speaks truthfully about sensitive topics like George Soros and institutional corruption.

bitcoin· cash app· paypal· value for value· mofundme· producers

2:35:53 Or let me say this. Or somewhere in rural America. Right. Well, the new cops is all that. The new cops is all white people. It's hilarious. I welcome to the bottom. Yes, exactly. They don't even know that they're the sequel. It's crazy. All right. Well, speaking of money, I guess we need to thank some more producers for what they do. Yes. And we need to remind us how much we love it. I like brand new money. I just, I don't want any money around me. It's not. I'd almost rather have a new one than an old 20. That's kind of dumb, isn't it? But there's something about new money that excites you. You like $100 bills? Oh, man. I like new money, too.

2:36:34 Oh, most beautiful thing on earth is a $100 bill. I haven't seen a woman as good looking as a $100 bill. There's something about $100 bill that excites you. Well, we love new money as well. That's not really why we're doing it, but it does help us do it. The new money we love is some Bitcoin. NewpodcastApps.com is where you can get a podcast. You can use value for value streaming. You can boost us larger amounts and support many independent podcasts and ensure that your podcasts are protected and will stay on the air, so to speak. We also love some of the new money we get in digital form from Cash App and PayPal. And

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2:40:04 yeah, Konahur, I guess. $3.33. No note. And thank you all very much for supporting episode 78 of MoFax with Adam Curry. Please support the work. Please support this show. Go to MoFax.com, the donation page directly, mofundme.com. And I want to make sure we got Terrence Lynch for $10. I want to make sure we got him. I think you said it, but I just want to verify that we did. We did now for sure. Okay. I'd rather be safe. You're sorry. No problem. All right. So now in this last block, I want to get into the impact of these Open Society because it sounds like we're moaning and complaining, but these things have real issues.

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The DC and New York Homeless Attacker

A news report covers the arrest of a suspect in Washington D.C. linked to a series of shootings targeting homeless men in D.C. and New York City. Mayor Muriel Bowser and police officials describe the suspect as "depraved." The hosts question the effectiveness of telling homeless people to "seek shelter" and note the suspect's history of mental health issues and prior unprosecuted assaults.

muriel bowser· dc police· homelessness· mental health· shooting· suspect

2:40:51 And all of these have been local to me. These news stories that I have. So it's kind of like we're going to go through some news clips and just listen to the amount of craziness and crime that's going on since these DAs have taken office in their district. So I guess we can go ahead and get into 28 homeless men. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to News for Today. I'm Unyang. And I'm Jumi Olabanji. Thanks for waking up with us on this Tuesday, March 15th. We will get to that breaking news right now here at 6 o'clock. D.C. police say they have a suspect in custody in connection to the attacks on men experiencing homelessness in D.C.

2:41:30 and in New York City. The man was arrested just a few hours ago around 3 o'clock this morning on Pennsylvania Avenue in Southeast DC. Newshorse Justin Finch live at DC police headquarters with the latest on these breaking details. Justin. Jumi on good morning. That's right. That work now coming in from D.C. police just moments ago that a man is now in custody in connection to this case. Those five men experiencing homelessness who were all shot between D.C. and New York City, two of which have died. That man is now in police custody, now under arrest. This all comes after the recent release of those new suspect images.

2:42:10 As you mentioned, he was located overnight on the 2700 block of Pennsylvania Avenue in Southeast. And we are told this man fits the description of the face you are seeing on those. those images. Mayor Bowser and D.C. Police Chief Robert Conte calling this man depraved, linking him to the five shootings of men experiencing homelessness, two of which have died. In DC, homeless outreach teams were going out to get word to encampments warning of this danger and offering shelter. Chief Conte had been saying that tips have been coming in over the past few days as his case was being pursued. And speaking Monday, Mayor Bowser encouraged those who are unhoused to seek shelter for their safety, given that threat on the streets.

2:42:53 Yeah, we got that story here, too. Seek shelter. I mean, like, seek shelter. Homeless shelter, homeless people. That's their solution. Right. That's their solution. Like, it's a crazy killer on the loose. Seek shelter. Yeah. I think if they had shelter, they were, you know, that would be an option for them. But this is how tone deaf these people are. And I'm noticing something because I did a little research on this guy. He was in and out of mental institutions. So are they also letting mental patients out? Because I have to ask this question because you remember with the Cal Rittenhouse Rittenhouse case, the guy that one of the guys that he shot was fresh out of an institution.

2:43:37 Is this also being included in mental institutions as well? Prisons and jails. I believe this goes back to the Reagan era. Excuse me. When there was a call, you know, the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Yes. So that was a state-run mental facility. And there were a lot of people in there. And predominantly the left leftist politicians and activists kept saying, you know, we need to let these people go. This is horrible. These institutions are horrible. That movie was no coincidence.

2:44:17 And then Reagan said, you know what? We're shutting all of them. And since then, we really haven't had that type of mental care, certainly not government provided since, as far as I know. So I'm surprised they even had the place to send people to in the first place. And like I said, the other thing was he was, let me be clear too, he was in and out of jail as well because he had two other assaults of women prior to this in the same year. Yeah. And they didn't arrest him. And I just guess for full disclosure, he's a black appearing man. Black appearing. Oh, that's cool. What is black appearing? This is a bam.

CHAPTER 35 / 38 Discussion

The Shopping Cart Killer and Mental Health Crises

Police in Fairfax County, Virginia, arrest Anthony Robinson, dubbed the "Shopping Cart Killer," for the murders of at least four women met on dating sites. The hosts discuss the prevalence of "media murders" in America and the recurring theme of suspects with histories of mental illness being left to roam the streets. They also mention a recent stabbing at the Museum of Modern Art (MoMA) involving a man whose membership was revoked.

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2:45:00 A black appearing man. That's what I haven't can't confirm your lineage. Right. So, yeah. So he appears to be a black man, but it's not, his lineage is not confirmed yet. So we can't take that one. We can't take that L just yet. Wow. Just verified. Moving on. Now we got to go to the shopping cart killer. He prays on the weak. He prays on the vulnerable. And he does unspeakable things with his victim. Fairfax County Police arresting a man they call the shopping cart killer 35-year-old Anthony Robinson accused of murdering at least four women.

2:45:43 Back in November, police at Harrison Burg found two bodies in a vacant lot. Robinson was later arrested for that, and police in the district started investigating him in connection to the death of Cheyenne Brown. She went missing on September 30th. Fairfax County police believe they found her body near a shopping cart in Alexandria in the very same container where Brown's remains were found. Police say another person's remains were there. That person has not yet been identified. Investigators believe Robinson met his victims on dating sites, took them to motels, then used a shopping cart to dispose of their remains in various locations. They think there may be more victims out there. Police say Robinson is transient. He had addresses in New York, Prince George's County, and D.C.

2:46:26 He also had many jobs and no criminal history. Okay, this is a fan favorite. Growing up in the Netherlands, and to this day, I would say really the nutty crimes, the like eating the victims and stuff like that, you know, Zodiac killer, all this stuff was really, it's only in America. It's not true, probably, but really, this type of media murder is so stereotypical American. I'm glad you said that because the unstereotypical thing about this is both of these are BAMs.

2:47:11 Another black appearing man is a serial killer. which and also has a history of being in it. He didn't have a criminal history, but he has a history with mental illness, which is why I raised the question in the first place. Right. Now, we're saying, okay, that's DC, which guy went back and forth to New York. Now we have this next guy in Fairfax, Virginia, which is right outside of DC. They're going back and forth to New York. What's going on? Like, seriously. Yeah, they're letting crazy people just run around. That's the problem. Yeah. That's the whole like. Yeah, there was one in New York, too.

2:47:49 Did you catch the one in the museum, Museum of Modern Art? No, is that the one that jumped over the yeah, but this guy was a long-term, you know, he had a membership card. He would go very regularly. And then there were a couple of things that happened and they and they revoked his membership card and he came in again and they said, no, well, you can't come in because of these other, you know, this ruckus you caused. And then he jumped up and just stabbed the women. But that was. Did he have his vaccination card? I don't know. Is that the reason why? No, I mean, these are legitimate questions that we have to ask when they are kind of vague with the reason.

2:48:27 It's like, well, that's a very, it's a great question. I have no idea. I wonder if I can look at, I can see if you, if vaccination is required for Museum of Modern Art. Yeah, because I mean, I forewarned people with this going postal thing. Oh, wow. We've talked about that. And yeah, hmm. Going postal. Yep. It's kind of time for that to come back, I guess. It's very concerning when you see, like I said, DC, right here, Fairfax, Virginia. So I'm from the DMV. They call it the DMV, right? DC, Maryland, and Virginia.

2:49:07 So I have D and I have V. Yes. COVID-19 vaccination and face masks are required for all visitors of the Museum of Modern Art. I will be interested in what his status is and why he was just so peaceful all of a sudden. And then all of a sudden he was revoked. Did he have his freedom papers or not? I'm just curious. Yeah, that's a very valid question. All right. So now we can't leave the M out. We got to go over to Maryland. And this is Marilyn Mosby. She puts the M in Maryland. And right in step with Timus, here's Marilyn Mosby. She's the current Baltimore City state's attorney and one of the rogue prosecutors these Soros type groups support.

CHAPTER 36 / 38 Discussion

Marilyn Mosby and the Progressive Prosecution of Baltimore

Baltimore State’s Attorney Marilyn Mosby defends her "progressive prosecution" model, which focuses on diverting people out of the system to avoid "over-criminalization." The hosts compare her policies to the fictional "Hamsterdam" drug zones in the TV show "The Wire." They argue that while these policies are marketed as helping the community, they often lead to increased violence and the exploitation of vulnerable populations.

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2:49:51 Our mission as prosecutors is justice over convictions. Justice is not black and white. May mean a tough sentence in one case. It may mean drug rehabilitation in another case. It may mean diverting somebody out of the system altogether. But this is what progressive prosecution looks like. Pushing back against the over-criminalization of poor black and brown people, mass incarceration. And we're doing this in stages, right? If you look up the word progressive, that's in essence what it is.

2:50:27 And here's Mosby again attacking U.S. District Attorney Greg Scott after he points out chilling statistics that cities with rogue prosecutors tend to have higher levels of violent crime. You're not from Baltimore, so I would advise you to please, before you make any mention of what happens in my city, to know what you're talking about. Now, while these statements make for good soundbites and serve as rallying cries for their cause, the results of their policies are not producing the justice they're seeking. In fact, it's hurting the most vulnerable people in our society, the same people they claim they're helping the most.

2:51:13 I've two things here. One, very important what you say there. Progressive, what it means to be progressive in steps. We do it by little steps. That's very key what you said there. I had a question. Is there a fan base for this type of progressive prosecution amongst the BAMs of the world? No, because we're not any different than any other set of Americans that we want to live in safe neighborhoods. So it's, yeah, I mean, we could think things could be, and I don't want to speak for it. I mean, are there literally, is there any black person who hears this and goes, oh, yeah, that's great.

2:51:58 We'll finally get our righteousness, our deal or whatever. Is the programming working? They hear that if you're talking about, once again, reform police, defense. defund police, in their mind, they don't look at it as, okay, they're the ones that actually keep the majority of criminals at bay. Right? They look at the one or two cases or whatever's highlighted in the media at the time through the videos that go back to the central part thing. Right. They're like, okay, defunding the police is going to stop that. So I'm all for it. Or, you know, yeah, that person shouldn't have been locked up. But they don't understand. It's an overall system where it's very

2:52:44 right. But when you get Al Sharpton or any other of the pastors and reverends coming out and saying, you know, no justice, no peace. I mean, all of this stuff that all plays into it. It's like, yeah, right. We should have different justice. I mean, people want it. It's almost the same as people saying, yeah, I give up on, I can't, you know, this is, everything's too stressful. Give me universal basic income. And this is where they're working extremes at because it's stopping frisk or no cops. It's like, isn't there something in between that? Isn't there something in between that? No, no, no. All we have is we're all out of sensible policing.

2:53:22 All we have is making it binary again. That's back to the binary. Which that forces the community, quote unquote, to demand for stricter policing. And then they'll say, oh, we're just delivering what the people wanted. But it's like where the options you gave the people are saying are trash. So this, the reason why I bring Mosby into it is because she's the one that implemented Amsterdam and Baltimore. And for people that don't know, I mean, excuse me, Hamsterdam, which is the drug-free zones, not prosecuting drug offenses. We saw that in the wire, right? Remember, I mean, you've been inducted into the

2:54:06 wire. There's so many people, if you remind them, just another quick story. I was interviewed by Peter McCormick of the What Bitcoin did podcast. He's very influential. He's got like a half a million followers on Twitter. And I brought up Drill Rap, and both he and his crew went, oh, yeah, of course, it's huge in the UK, which it is. And I went into my pitch about how disgusting it is that, you know, this is basically being algoized by YouTube. The labels pick it up. They give them their own sub-label. And what was interesting, this kind of goes back to what we were talking about earlier.

2:54:44 Although they were like, oh, yeah, that's horrible. I could see that they really love this music, that they hadn't really considered, hey, this is real. These kids are really killing each other. And I could see that they had to think about it for a second. Just like everybody loves the X games. Yeah. But they don't see all the broken arms, legs, knocked out teeth, cracked skulls, and concussions and everything that goes along with it, just like people love football. But they don't, it's, it's, when you're at the consumer level, it's just like, okay, it's for entertainment, but they don't understand the cost that comes along with it. Well, so that awareness is good. I guess, I guess, we're helping people with that as well. Yeah, at least you're aware of what goes on with it.

CHAPTER 37 / 38 Discussion

Vacant Buildings and the Gentrification of Baltimore

A CBS News Baltimore report highlights the city's 15,000 vacant buildings, which have become hubs for crime and fatal fires. The report notes that Detroit has demolished 20,000 buildings in seven years, while Baltimore targets only 500 annually. The hosts suggest that the high number of "vakes" is a deliberate strategy to lower property values for future gentrification, often at the expense of the homeless.

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2:55:28 I mean, now you can be informed of how you consume it. Yeah. So going back to Mosby, is that she brought us Hamsterdown, right? Only right that you have what's happening in clip number 31. And look, fire is really far from the only concern in vacant buildings. Our Paul Gessler, he has been digging into other issues as well all week long. And Paul, quite a lengthy list for a city that has about 15,000 vacant homes. Right, yeah. And we are a block away from Abajoy on South Calhoun Street. And you'll notice this house right here behind me caught fire just on Saturday, two days before that fatal fire on Stricker Street.

2:56:08 It also a vacant building, but firefighters tell us that really the only difference was the floors didn't cave in on this one. In theory, vacant homes should be boarded and secure, but we have found that's not always the case, leading to other dangers in and around vacant buildings. 15,000. It's said, actually. That's how many current vacant buildings the city tracks. You take the vakes away, you take the crime value down, basically. The Stricker Street property had been vacant since 2010, the latest of a long line of fires at vacant buildings. But that's just the start. Nobody knows somebody is there until they answer the house or something. Just around the corner from City Fire Station 8 here in West Baltimore, this entire block of North Gilmore Street is scheduled for demolition.

2:56:53 Still, many of the homes are not secure. You can actually look directly into many of these vacant buildings. These homes are really open to the elements and open to people. And in some cases, the boards have been pried right off. easily just walk inside of here and just be upstairs chilling or something. At this home, a water leak has caused icicles to form out front and on the basement bed. You can see from the exposed window. Now, this report was from when? A couple months ago. And The Wire season one aired when? Hold on, let me see. 2001, I believe. I rest my case. But hold on, wait, there's more.

2:57:33 Because you remember, just include people in, they were putting dead bodies and hiding them in the vacants and the wire. And Marlow, the character that was sanctioning all the killings, he was considered basically a serial killer, but nobody cared until the media used it as they were killing homeless people. Right. You remember? Like, now we have the homeless. Oh, now we got a problem. Now we have the homeless man. It's like, oh, people, that's a feel-good story. Now we're going to have attention brought to it. Yeah. So this is once again, like you want to talk about Simpson's prophecy. The wire, man, we really got to start with.

2:58:13 Unbelievable. It's unbelievable. Who wrote that? Who wrote that? Do you know? I'm not sure who wrote The Wire. I'm embarrassed to say because it's one of my favorite television shows. But while you're looking that up, let's go ahead and get into the final piece about the vacants. In 2020, a body was found inside a vacant property here on Argyle Avenue in West Baltimore. And city police tell me that they don't track every body found, but they do when it results in homicide investigations. And dating back five plus years, we've had 22 homicides in or on vacant properties. On property or near. The city has long pointed to the sheer presence of vacant buildings as a cause for crime.

2:58:52 If you look at the map of where the murders are, the most violent crime is in the areas with most vacants. Last summer, the AA guys going around setting them on purpose. In 2019, investigators determined dozens of fires were intentionally set inside Baltimore vacant buildings. Police arrested two men. Court records show one was convicted. But fires in vacant buildings remain an issue, especially in West Baltimore. Will we love for the city knock down every vacant house in the city so this never happens again? Absolutely. Till then, we will continue to do our job to protect the citizens of Baltimore. Back live now to the firefighter union president's point. Baltimore is certainly not the only city in this country to deal with the vacant building issue.

2:59:35 Detroit, for instance, has its own demolition department. And in the last seven years, they've demolished about 20,000 vacant buildings. To put that in perspective, Baltimore City only has a target of about 500 annually. For now, reporting live in Southwest Baltimore, I'm Paul Gessler for CBS News Baltimore. So who do we have on the scene in Baltimore, Mo, who can be the cultural icon to Shepard in the new neighborhood we're going to build there eventually? I don't think there is one yet. I don't think there is one, but it just baffles me how you have this many vacants, this many homeless people, and nobody, these smart foundations. Let me see. Can I put one and one together here? Will something work?

CHAPTER 38 / 38 Discussion

The Wire Prophecies and Parallel Networks

The hosts reflect on how "The Wire," written by former journalist David Simon, accurately predicted the current state of urban decay and institutional failure. They discuss the future of "sector policing" and social credit scores. The episode ends with a call to build "parallel networks" and the announcement of a new Mastodon server for the Mo Facts community to ensure continued connection outside of mainstream social media.

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3:00:20 What do you mean? Well, I mean, seriously, vacant buildings, homeless people. You know, it's like, it's all, it's so obvious. Right. But what they want to do is burn them down and then, you know, gentrify. Yeah. I know. But you got to get rid of the homeless people and the vacants. Yep. So this is. That's a two-for-one. It's a two-for-one. It's perfect. I wish I had a better way of wrapping the show. By the way, The Wire was written by David Simon. Okay. Interestingly, I think he's a Jew, but he worked

3:01:01 just because in context of the show, he worked at the Baltimore Sun City desk for 12 years from 1982 to 95 and wrote Homicide A Year on the Killing Streets. And so I'd say a lot of this is no wonder it's based on some factual stuff. The guy lived it. He was there. Right. And then they just highlighted a lot of the things that's going on now. I mean, it's just, it's like he had their playbook in a way, or he was in the know of how they was going to roll out these things. And now we like they said, we're seeing it in Detroit, the same thing, the vacants, the homeless people, all across the United States. And they have to get rid of these people one way or another. And I think between Fit and All,

3:01:49 ring policing. I'm sorry, ring policing. That's how I look at it. It's going to be, you can't be outside the zone. Oh, right, right, right. This is the homeless zone. You know what I'm saying? That's the LC sectors. Let's. Let's call it sectors. That's more sci-fi. Sector. Yeah. Sector policing. Yeah. I think that's going to wait that way they're going to do it. And when you step outside of that, it's going to be like they're going to be herding them back into their zones. And then they'll take back the real estate. Like I said, I wish I had a better way, a more upbeat way to wrap the show. But the only thing I can say to people is first, seek first to understand. Yep. And then, you know, at least start talking about the solutions.

3:02:30 And also continue to work on parallel networks of all kinds. Make sure that you're connecting with people. I mean, we really need a, I think that was on my list, wasn't it? I'm going to set up MoFax.social. Yeah, we need our own Mastodon server now for sure. Oh, I'm writing this down, Moe, because we need to start connecting people a little bit. I mean, you and I have both seen some of the emails that have been coming in. You know, our conversations are having impact. People are impacting others. I'm really proud of the work you're doing, Moe. This is fantastic. I appreciate that. Thank you, Adam. And as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself.

3:03:14 And we will reveal ourselves in 14 days for another standard Mo Facts with Adam Curry 79. But of course, make sure you check out the lost tapes on Wednesday and keep your eye on the socials for everything Mo is up to. We'll talk to you next time. Remember us at MoFundMe.com. See you next time, everybody. But don't you know you can't hide when you give it up. It's only enough to get me by

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