62: Pink Elephant

00:11 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for April 27th, 2021. This is episode number 62. And there's strong forces at work, ladies and gentlemen. It's always a miracle we get this show out at all. I'm Adam Curry in Austin, Texas, and on the other end, it is my friend, Mr. Mofax. How you doing, Adam? Mo, it's been quite the day. Had a little bit of, I don't know, it's you could call it gremlins, but I don't know. I'm starting to think that there's forces at work here that sometimes just want to make sure our show does not start. It can't stop us, so it only can delay us, but we'll get it done. This is true.

00:54 Hey, Mo, it's been way too long. I went on vacation, so apologies that I was out of pocket. And then we got resituated and we knew there was some stuff coming up that we probably wanted to discuss. So it's kind of good that we had an opportunity to wait a little bit longer for today's show. How you been, though? What's been going on with you? Everything's going pretty good. Just some life stuff coming at you. But other than that, you know what I'm saying? It's going pretty good. Excellent, man. Excellent. Well, I am very excited to be talking to you again. I miss this show. It's like, you know, no agenda doing that for 14 years. And like, I can actually turn that off a little bit, but I was like, I like talking to Mo, man. I really miss that.

01:36 So it's good. It's all good. Well, in the meantime, I have put together a nice bag for her. So if you want to get to that wheel, we can. Yeah, you bet. I'm going to reach over here. Let me get the wheel of topics here. Hold on a second. Ah, there it is, ladies and gentlemen. Okay, it's the wheel of topics. Round and round it goes. Where it stops, nobody knows. The only person who really knows what the topic for today is Mofax. Let's see what Mofax with Adam Curry 62 is going to be all about. Cults are as cults do. Cults? Hmm. Yes. That's unexpected. That's a little curveball. Cults are as cults do. Hmm. Yes. So we got to talk about the cult awoke, aka the holy cow,

02:21 and the George Floyd case. And I said I would not talk about the case until it had wrapped. Right. And now it's time to talk about it. I guess we can start off where we left off in show 40 politics and jumping right to number two. On Monday, May 25th, Minneapolis police officers respond to a call about a customer using a counterfeit $20 bill. Officers arrive and pull the suspect, 46-year-old George Floyd, from his car, placing him in handcuffs. Minutes later, officers lay Floyd down beside the rear tire of the police car. An officer later identified as Derek Chauvin places his knee on Floyd's neck.

03:06 As Floyd tells officers he can't breathe, bystanders plead for his life. Stop breathing right there, bro. After approximately three minutes, Floyd becomes unresponsive. Officer Chauvin continues to keep his knee on Floyd's neck until paramedics arrive. Approximately five minutes later. The incident is the latest in a series of racially charged confrontations in recent weeks, including the death of Ahmaud Aubrey, the police shooting of Breonna Taylor, and a 911 call about a black bird watcher in Central Park. Please send the calls immediately. Oof, man. That was episode 40. It seems like so long ago. So what we're not going to do is traumatize people with a blow-by-blow of the case.

03:50 No. We're going to look at this whole situation from beginning to end, how it played out, and the symbolism that went on with this whole situation. There's something that I caught that two things I caught going back and listening to these clips, and this is why we revisit throwback clips because the propaganda is so thick that you miss different points about it. In this clip, did you listen to the pronunciation of the officer's name? Maybe just like run it. I think maybe catching the first 10 seconds. I want you to hear it. Okay.

04:28 Sure, sure. Let's pick it up. On Monday, May 25th, Minneapolis police officers respond to a call about a customer using a counterfeit $20 bill. Officers arrive and pull the suspect, 46-year-old George Floyd, from his car, placing him in handcuffs. Minutes later, officers lay Floyd down beside the rear tire of the police car. An officer later identified as Derek Chauvin. Oh, Chauvin instead of Chauvin. Chauvin. Hmm, interesting. That was the this is their first account of how yes. Yes. So we're going to talk about. about that. But first, I want to talk about the date. This was Memorial Day.

05:04 Yeah. And we didn't stress that point when we cover the, you know, the mayhem and the protest and everything that happened after the murder of George Floyd. That being Memorial Day, and then later they're trying to push this. This is according to ABC and Raleigh or ABC 11 as the day of enlightenment. Yes, the George Floyd Memorial Center website says that they want May 25th to be commiserated as the day that the world came together for a common purpose and opened the world's eyes to the plight of black Americans. And they want it to be referred to as the day of enlightenment. So we didn't discuss that.

05:48 No, we didn't. We didn't. But when I went back, listen to this clip, I was like, Chauvin? That's weird. And it was right in front of my eyes what had happened here. We know him as what now? Derek Chauvin. Yeah. And Chauvin is spelled just like chauvinism. Yes, it is. S-C-H-A-U-V. Yep, chauvinism. Chauvinism. Where does the word come from? The term chauvinisme is French and dates back to the 1830s.

06:25 There was a man named Nicolas Chauvin, so the story goes, who was the most loyal soldier in Napoleon's Grand Armée. It was said that he was born in Rochefort around 1780 and enlisted at the age of 18. He served with such dedication that Napoleon himself presented Chauvin with a military award, the Saber of Honor. Chauvin was badly wounded in the war, but remained a fanatical Bonapartist, even after Napoleon's exile in 1815 and the restoration of the monarchy. His loud and unfashionable obsession with the good old days of empire made him into an object of mockery.

07:08 And his name was given to a ridiculous character in a popular play of 1831. The word crossed the channel and began to be used in English around 1870. Then, chauvinism meant belligerent patriotism, just as it did in France. Rather like the English word, jingoism. Wow. Okay, never expected it to go this direction, Mo. Well, we're going there early today. Yeah, I love it. I love it. We're coming right out the block with this because it was right in front of my face and I didn't even see it until I listened to the old clip of how they originally said his name and then they just switched it.

07:49 And this is where I need to lean on you at. They actually have readings of how names are read, correct? Yeah, what is that called when they phonetic? No, no, no, I'm saying when the media passes around saying, we're going to refer to this person style guide. It's the style guide. Yes, that's what it is. So somewhere along the way, he became, went from chauvin to chauvin. And when you look at who a chauvin is and the definition of his name and how it was used. It's very subtle, but wow. The good old days of the empire and belligerent patriotism.

08:32 Wow, it's a spell. It's a spell. It's a spell right off the bat. I'm starting to recognize him now. Woohoo! Spell! Yeah. Well, let's go ahead and dive into part two of that clip. Then, chauvinism meant belligerent patriotism, just as it did in France. Rather like the English word, jingoism. By the 1930s, its meaning had evolved and referred to a fanatical devotion to any cause and hostility towards outsiders. It began to be used in journalism and plays, particularly when the unequal position of women in society was being discussed. But it was in the 1960s and 70s that the use of the word chauvinism really took off amongst feminists.

09:15 The term male chauvinist pig became popular, turning up in films and magazines, including playboy. Use of the word chauvinist peaked in the 1980s. Other terms like sexist and misogynist have risen in use more recently. But it is President Trump's slogan, America First, that really harks back to the original meaning of chauvinism. One that the apocryphal Nicolas Chauvin might even recognize. If he ever really existed, that is. If he ever really existed. Oh, no. now, do we have any other examples of Derek Chauvin's name being pronounced that way, or is this the only one?

10:03 This is the only one. And this, like I said, this is when the first account that I pulled for show 40, that was the official timeline for NBC News. And that's how they pronounced it, Chauvin. But he has become Derek Chauvin. And you said a spell, and you're correct. And the appropriate term is called a sigil. That's something go past your conscious mind to your subconscious mind. A sigual, you call that a sigil? Yes, I think it's S-I-G-I-L Sigil. And what it does is like a meme. It goes past, it's been right in front of our face this whole time.

10:45 Wow. But when you look at it, it's like, oh, Chauvin, Chauvinist. And then you rang your bell. What did you catch when you rang your bell? Chauvinist pig. Chauvinist pig, yes, chauvinist pig. And then later, of course, they brought in President Trump. Yeah, but what I'm saying is Chauvinist pig. Yeah. Police officer. Police officer. Oh, no, Mo. This is too much coincidence. Well, now we got to go and look into why do people sometimes call police officers pigs. Unlike so many other nicknames for the police, such as cops and the fuzz, this particular term has a relatively well-known origin.

11:28 You see, starting around the 16th century, pig began being used in English as a derogatory term for people, whether the police or not, as it is still sometimes used today. It took about three more centuries, but this particular insult inevitably became a popular nickname for oft-insulted police officers, with the first documented reference to this being in the Dictionary of Buckish Slang, University Wit, and Pickpocket Eloquence published in London in 1811. In it, the pertinent line in question is: The pigs frisked my panny and nailed my screws. Meaning, the officers searched my house and seized my picklocks. So, what I'm just saying is, when you see his name, Derek Chauvin, Chauvinist the pig.

12:13 Now, when I was growing up, I heard my mom say this sometimes. Did you ever hear Mama Facts talk about someone being a chauvinist pig? Yes. Yeah. Yes. I've heard both terms used, actually. So not by not by Mama Facts. No, no, no. But no, I've heard both. But when you put it together, it tells how they want to paint him. And it's Derek. It's so interesting because I do recall thinking this when it all first came down. Like, oh, that's that's a coincidence, Chauvin, chauvinist. And that's the belligerent patriot that belonged to the good old days. Yeah. Who is hostile to outsiders?

12:54 I mean, okay. All right. All right. I'm along. Over the ride. I'm holding on. Holding out for dear life. If we're opening up like that, we got to go back to show 40. And that's NBC News 2. On Tuesday, May 26th, the Minneapolis Police Department releases a statement saying Floyd physically resisted officers. What we saw was horrible. This man's life matters. The mayor announces all four officers involved in the arrest have been fired. And the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension and the FBI announced they will also be investigating the arrest. To be clear, the Department of Justice has made the investigation, in this case, a top priority.

13:38 Hundreds of people gather in Minneapolis on Tuesday night to decry the death of Floyd. Police officers in riot gear fire rubber bullets at the crowd. So I just want to count, we're just laying out what happened for people that maybe have been under a rock and don't know about this case. And it ended up with Derek Chauvin getting convicted with the max amount of counts that he could get in this case. But I feel personally there was no justice. And I'm going to lay out that where we know what that word means or what it lends to. Right. Well, I don't think that there is another term that I've picked up on, and I'm sure this will come later down the road, but this term accountability has been.

14:21 Yes, but equity as well. Well, equity, I know, but I keep hearing accountability. And, you know, it's like, what? How does this work into it? We'll get there, I guess. Yeah, well, we'll get there. But what I want to say is this: that the reason why I don't feel like there's justice, because no matter what, how you look, what lens you looked at this case from, the appropriate charge and or. reason for his death was not fully invested, not when I'm saying not investigated, but wasn't fully explored. It wasn't fully explored because

15:02 where are we at? Okay, we're recounting. He had three co-conspirators, if you want to use that word now. I mean, since he's been convicted, it was the three other officers. But what they did was they're nowhere to be found because one, I don't think they're good for optics. One guy looks kind of black. The other guy is Asian. You see what I'm saying? So these don't, they were just like, let's put out the belligerent patriot. Put him up front. Exactly for a sacrifice. And a lot of this show is going to be surrounded about Brown's sacrifice because there were two sacrifices that happened in this situation. And we're going to explore both of them. But I guess we can go into the new details on officers.

15:42 Those alarming new details emerging about the other three officers on the scene with Derek Chauvin during George Floyd's last moments. Alex Perez joins us with the latest from Minneapolis on that part of the story. Good morning, Alex. Hey, good morning, Amy. Well, for the first time, we may be learning what the defense argument for these other officers involved in the case may be. Now, those other officers, Toe Tao, J. Alexander King, and Thomas Lane, all made their first appearance in court Thursday. They're each facing multiple charges, including aiding and abetting second-degree murder. Two of them in court, shifting blame to veteran officer Derek Chauvin, the one seen in that horrific video, digging his knee into Floyd's neck.

16:22 The attorneys for King and Lane telling the judge that they were both rookie officers when the incident occurred with George Floyd both on the job full-time for only a handful of days. King's attorneys is saying he told the other officer, quote, you shouldn't do this. And Lane's attorney saying he asked Chauvin, shall we roll him over? And that he performed CPR on Floyd in the ambulance. Now, Chauvin has not yet appeared in court, but those other three officers are being held on a million-dollar bail. His own team sent him up the river. Yeah. And from the imaging and the recording of the situation, there were three officers with their knee on his back at one time or another.

17:04 So I'm going to explain. Let me illustrate where I'm going with this. No matter how you saw the case, because I know this country is very divided on this case. Half of them say that the guy was guilty of murder. And the other half says, well, it was other factors that we'll explore later that were played into the death of George Floyd. Which, what I'm saying is, no matter which way you fall on this, either if you're going to say he was murdered, then you have to look at these other officers as well. Yeah, certainly based upon the video evidence. And

17:43 what I'm just saying, so what we're going to look at first, if you fall on that side, this is why you didn't receive the appropriate definition of justice. And then we'll explore the other half later in the show if you think it fail the other way. Because what I'm just saying is, the way I saw this case play out, there was no justice in this case at all. At all. I mean, I'm going to explain why. Now, this next clip comes from show 40. And this is Judge Janine Pirow. And she's on Fox News. And she tends to be on the conservative side. A little bit. And this was a little bit, a little bit. And what she does is she,

18:27 what she's going to point out is how I felt about this situation. So people can be clear on that. And it's just strange that I'm going to say this. It's very few people that think that Derek Chauvin didn't play a role, play a role in the death of George Floyd. Now it's like on that spectrum, what was his level of responsibility or culpability? But I think we're all on board. And what I'm using her clip is, even on Fox News, they allowed her to go up here and say this. So that goes to show you that it was quite clear something was amiss in this whole situation. Folks, this is not just recklessness. This is not just depraved indifference to human life.

19:12 This is not just an intentional murder. This is premeditated murder one. Chauvin was reminded over and over again that he was snuffing the life out of George Floyd. He was reminded by George Floyd begging and wailing for his life. He was reminded by the witnesses and passersby. He was reminded as he felt the life of George Floyd being expelled under his knee. This is not a man who didn't comprehend or understand the depravity. depravity. Again and again, he was called upon to stop, to check, to roll him off his back, to check his pulse, to see that his nose was bleeding, to put him in the car.

19:57 At every one of these points, his attention was drawn to what he was doing, and he had a chance to stop. Every one of these alerts was a trigger that alerted him to the consequences of his actions and was a point of premeditation after which he made the conscious decision to continue. And I'll just say that when this went down, I called my buddy in Colorado, who's an EMT. And I said, man, look at this. Because he had taught me this term a long time ago, which is excited delirium.

20:38 Okay. And he deals with that a lot. And essentially, it's someone who's overdosing on heroin or some kind of opioid, but may have had either meth or some PCP, you know, some other stimulant. And he says, what happens is it's really crazy. He'll bring people back to life with Narcan. You know, so a little shot in the nose there. And they, first of all, they wake up, they're extremely angry, and they have like superhuman strength because they're all hyped up on some kind of amphetamine. And it says, really, really difficult. And they're very, he says at that point, they have almost superhuman strength.

21:21 They often have to throw a hood on him because they're spitting and biting and going nuts. And he said that, he says, that guy, before there was even trouble, he says, from what he saw as a professional, he said that guy was already dying before anything happened, before he was on the ground, before any of that stuff. So that's that's correct. That's the part that I know from what I've heard from, I think, pretty reliable sources. And that was a several, I mean, I heard that account on several occasions. But I'm going to, I am not speaking from a lawyer because I am not a lawyer. I'm speaking from a person that went to the law school of law and order and court TV movies.

22:04 The real stuff. No, because what I'm saying, that is what shapes people's perception of the law. And I'm not, that's why I'm not, in this case, I'm not here to debate as far as the technicalities or what the legal minds say. You see what I'm saying? I'm saying you have two people, and one is on one side saying it was murder one, straight up and down, and all the other cops should be charged same as him. And I'm going to explain why in a minute. And on the other side, you have people that say more of what you're saying is he was dying anyway, and the drugs killed him.

22:43 Let's just put it out there. Now, somewhere in between, there is the truth, but no matter if you believe on the one hand or the other hand, neither one of those received justice in this case. That's my point I'm trying to make. I got you. Nobody can leave this case happy because if he truly did die of drug overdose, then we need to go and find out who sold him the drugs and charge them with murder one. Because we've seen this with what's the guy name, kind of chubby guy, actor, wore glasses. He died of a heroin overdose. Philip C. R. Hoffman. Correct. When he died, they went and arrested four other people for his death.

23:27 Yeah, well, he was a Hollywood actor after all. But this is not just, he should, George Floyd should get the same justice that he got. You feel what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. Nobody can be happy in this. And if you're going to put this, if you're going to hang this on Derek Chauvin, the blue line needs to stick with him. But that goes to show you that they rolled on him and said, no, it's all on him, which we know this, from my perspective, this was all. I wouldn't say, I'm not one of those people that go out and say, oh, they planned this on this date. They have this happen. There are that group out there that say that. I don't really follow that group.

24:04 I don't poo-poo that as well. I mean, who knows crazy this world is. What I'm just saying is they looked at all these things and they highlighted all of these things because guess what? When you look at it, it's perfect balance on both sides because you can look at it through whatever lens you look through and you're going to be pissed off at it. And that was the whole purpose. That's all that's, yeah, that when you'd assume that to be the point. Right. That's what I'm saying. That's why no justice was really had. Because if it was a case, like I'm just going to recount this woman, because I know people are a lot in their emotions right now. And that's why I didn't talk about this case. from this perspective until it was over because I wanted people to see how it played out.

24:45 And you have a conservative judge here, Janine Pirro, on Fox News, which is to believe to be conservative. We know how to run it. We know who's really running. Exactly. But what I'm saying is they're the right-hand wing on this bird. And for her to come out and say that, that kind of lets you know that's the extreme. That's the furthest extreme you can go to. And that's on Fox News. And then on the other side, you know, if he wasn't killed by the cop, then we need more people arrested and brought to justice and charge for murder one. And you might be saying, well, Mo, murder one, seriously? Yes, number eight.

25:27 I spent the last 16 years of my life in prison serving time for murder. That's right. Murder. But the thing is, I didn't kill anyone. And don't just take my word for it. The judge, the prosecutor, and the jury in my case all agreed that I hadn't killed anyone, but they still sentenced me as the actual killer and put me in prison with 25 years to life. All right. I want to tell you about something called the felony murder rule. It's a glitch in our criminal justice system, a glitch we only have in the United States. And it basically says this: glitch. Yeah. Felony murder rule. Any death which occurs during the commission of a felony is first-degree murder.

26:08 And all participants in that felony can be charged with and found guilty of murder. Translation: if you commit a felony and while that felony is happening, someone gets killed, you can be found guilty of murder, whether or not you killed anyone. Here's an example: let's say you let your friend borrow your car. You know, he's going to use it to commit a robbery. But then he ends up killing someone. The felony murder rule says that you're equally guilty of the murder as your friend. This actually happened to a guy named Ryan Holly. Instead of going to prison for an attempted robbery, he's serving life without the possibility of parole.

26:46 Or what about this? You and your friend decide to commit a robbery. As you're running away, your friend is shot dead by the police. The felony murder rule says that you are going to prison for his murder, even though it was a cop who killed him. Wow. Okay. Now, now you see why it says no justice had in this case. Didn't they try to lay this on President Trump or something too? I recall vaguely there was something like this. I mean, I'm sure they tried to fuck off. That makes sense, right? Yeah, it makes complete sense. But what I'm trying to illustrate to people is this. Okay, say it was manslaughter.

27:26 At the point became manslaughter, those other people in commission of that crime, if you're going to charge all of them by the felony murder rule, you have to give them all murder one. Right. Or if you're going to say drugs killed him, then you need to go and find the people that committed the felony. You know what I'm saying? Like I said for all of you. Yeah, if you want complete justice. Yes. Right. But I thought that's what we were striving for here. Please. You didn't really think that, did you? No, what I'm saying is by the people was pushing the narratives. Yeah. Yeah. And they left us right where they wanted us at right now. It's the perfect illusion. It's that blue dress, black dress kind of thing. Blue dress is like,

28:09 yes. No matter what angle you look at it, and you're not going to be happy. And I'm going to give you the perspective of how, you know what I'm saying? I look at as a black man, and I barely rarely say that on this show. But the reason why I say that is because I have to tell and communicate why people are so frustrated. When we watch first 48 television shows, it'll be a case where three black kids go do a BE and they star an old lady. She falls over with a heart attack and they all go down for murder one. Got it. So when you set that standard, you got to hold it. You got to keep it. You got to keep the standard.

28:51 Well, it's not even about keeping it. What it is is that that's what shaped these our minds. Now, I mean, of course, I know their shades are great. I'm saying, of, you know, their shades are gray. But what I'm saying is when I look at this case, I'm like, why did you give those three kids murder one? Let me translate. Let me translate. Yes. So, and I'll use the term as a black man. You look at this. You're used to hearing the second part of the sentence, which is, well, because the old lady died, you're getting murder one. You're all going, you're all going to jail. And you've heard that. I think this is the first time. That's the felony. You watch the show First 48, which is very popular amongst this man.

29:33 I'm too bibliom too busy watching. watching the Oscars. I got no time for that. No, well, you might want to do that. It was only me, by the way. It's this show. Yeah, you were like three other people. But what I'm saying is, and what we, why we have this show, is to have these conversations. So people can first seek first to understand, then to be understood, you know, have empathy for both sides. And so that's my point because as a white man, I get to say it. I don't, I've never really even heard this. So you've been exposed to it for obvious reasons much more than I have. Is that a fair assessment? Yeah. I mean, that's just, I'm not saying I'm out here doing BEs. I'm talking about what the media shows me.

30:14 Yeah. Week after week on a television show that you're saying mostly is dominated by the presence of young black men. Yeah. I've never seen it. I've never seen it. I'm going to get the most disgusting example was this. One guy calls up his friend to say, hey, you know anybody got any weed? And the dude was like, yeah, I know somebody got weed. He takes him over to the guy's house. He sits in the car. The guy goes in, buys the weed, robs and kills the people in the house. They both get murdered one. Wow. Just like that. Yeah. Okay. And so if that's what shapes your perspective, it's like when you see this case and you see four cops involved, nine minutes on his back, nobody says, pulls him out. Like, come on, Derek. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's some bullcrap. You know what I'm saying? Hey, Derek, I don't want to get murdered one.

30:59 Right. So that's what I'm saying. It's not justice not to be had because what they had was perfect. They had two sacrifices to put up on the cult. I'm saying for the cult awoke, the holy cow. And it was like, it worked perfect. I know I talked a lot here, but I'm trying to. No, no, no, no, I got it. I know. I know that. No, I have to say, I know there's some people on both sides right now that are pissed at me. Maybe. But what I have to do, I don't care. I mean, you know me. I truly don't care because I understand what this is meant to do. And if you're allowing that to do it to you, then you're a victim. And I actually feel empathy for you. It's not, I'm angry at you because you're angry at me because I'm not going to regurgitate talking points.

31:44 We're going to look at this case. Well, this is what I love about the show, Mo. It's like you're, first of all, you're giving me something that I hadn't thought about. You know, it's like, I never don't even know about this part of justice. And that's on me. But this is exactly the kind of show where we can have these conversations. And I love it that you say there's no justice on either side. That's the important part. That's what people need to understand: we're all being played. That's the whole point. That's the whole point. And so, I mean, not to you saying stray too far, but I just wanted to lay that out just so everybody understands where we're going with this show and

32:26 understand. So I think we stopped at nine's up next. Yes, please. By Wednesday, as protests spread nationwide, George Floyd's sister, Bridget Floyd, calls for justice. I would like for those officers to be charged with murder. By Thursday, new video reveals the three officers were not with Floyd during the arrest. Governor Tim Waltz activates the National Guard. On the third night of protests, crowds gather outside the third police precinct in downtown Minneapolis. The standoff soon spirals out of control with officers evacuating the police station just after 10 p.m.

33:04 local time as protesters enter the building. The police precinct, as well as several buildings in the surrounding neighborhood, are lit on fire. Several businesses are looted. This smoke shop, then there's the liquor shop, then there's the street, and the police station is right across the road. So we're 500 feet from the front of the police station. There are fires burning in different directions around me. There's another fire over there. Yes, the summer of love. Yeah, and that's the thing. This thing was not, this thing was not only about a presidential election. This is about the way the world's going to go. And you might think that's grandiose, but it's really not.

33:43 Because if this doesn't happen, I think the pandemic wasn't enough to get Trump out of office. I really don't. Because, I mean, at the end of the day, the money came back. I mean, the stock market went down, but it came back. And it's like, well, it's like, well, you know, it wasn't an economical thing. It was just this constant pressure from this case. And then everything stacked on top of it. And we talked about the three waves and how it was strategically laid out in 40. Well, you actually had multiple waves. You had the three waves of the protest.

34:22 But at the same time, that's where we had coronavirus waves and we had media waves discrediting everything the president said. And it was a. pylon that was crazy and and the world stopped so you had nothing to do but fixate on it right you know that was part of it too yeah that it's like i'm stuck in my house all day and all on the airways it's nothing i'm bored in the house i'm in the house bored right that's exactly right so i just want to watch and in that case i mean in that clip they said three officers had his knee on his back yeah so they all now see how the narrative changed and i'm not saying that uh derek chauvin wasn't the initiator and the main culprit in this situation what i'm saying is i thought it was ride and die together right no i guess not

35:15 i never seen it play out like i'm talking about from top to bottom the law enforcement and justice apparatus turn their back on um derek chauvin and i've never seen that before in my life and when i see stuff like that it's like that was too easy yeah that yeah you're making a good point so i mean i'm just like i'm only speaking from my perspective but i i can see it from both sides i mean because i under i seek to understand the other side um of how people may see it um so i think we stopped at uh we're going back to episode 59.

35:55 okay we're going back to 59 this is restoring justice where we actually define when they say what i believe when the cult awoke says um justice what they mean they're not talking about the law and how the law is executed they're talking about their goddess that's in every courtroom around the world and we're not talking about just in america she's around the world welcome to chasing gods where we find meaning with symbols and myths to judge with justice is believed to be one of the top virtues by philosophers writers and artists of the ancient world from ancient egypt to ancient greece and rome justice has been personified by a goddess who not only belongs to the highest

36:35 ranks of gods but whose symbolism is even sought by them you could imagine what justice must have meant to men this goddess i'm talking about is lady justice you've probably seen her but may not have paid too much attention she could be a statue an emblem or figurine to represent justice in the legal system worldwide she holds a scale a sword and at times she wears a blindfold oh i thought she always wore a blindfold that's another one i didn't catch the first time we listened to these clips sometimes interesting i did i i'm glad you said it because i was gonna say it but i'm glad you picked up in there as well and neither one of us picked up on it last time we were no

37:21 and what i'm what i'm illustrating here is these if this information is pertinent to what happens now because these people at the higher levels believe in this even though you may not believe in it they believe in some wonky stuff yeah mysticism uh greek uh mythology uh so when you go back and look at epstein island you have to see all and all the things we laid out in the last 61 shows that point back to their uh affinity for um for egypt egyptian relics and signs and symbols um so i just want to lay that out there as well that when they say justice because you're going to hear a lot in the next few clips

38:10 um what they i think with my perspective what they're referring to um so we stop there we can get back into nbc news for in the early hours of friday morning st. Paul police report that nearly 170 businesses have been damaged by vandalism looting or fires Minneapolis police arrest ex-officer Derek Chauvin and charge him with thirty murder and manslaughter charging papers state that Chauvin had his knee on Floyd's neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds Friday night demonstrations continue across the country hundreds are arrested police cars are burned and scuffles break out between law enforcement and protesters in New York Atlanta Los Angeles and more the governors of several states announced they will deploy the National Guard to restore order

38:55 yeah always those cities always those every time and they were like this is the big one this is the so I have to look at this like I look at 9-11 and the people that say maybe this was all planned if this doesn't happen if 9-11 doesn't happen history is altered so just from that perspective you want to go out on that limb I'm not necessarily what I'm saying I don't have any proof or any fact facts to lean towards. It was, you know, a planned scenario. But if something like this falls in your lap, the news media knows what to do with it.

39:39 Yeah, you know, the way I let me just interject for a sec. And there's a reason for this. So recently we had a cop shoot and kill three people here in Austin. Did you hear about it? I did not. No. Shot and killed his daughter, her boyfriend, and a star football player for UT who had just been recruited. A cop. I think I heard this case. Yeah, black cop. Yay! Problem. But no, I'm going to tell you why I didn't hear it. Let me give you where I did hear it and why I didn't hear it. I didn't hear it in my race circle of

40:18 where I gather information from. I heard it in the they tried to pin it off on the Manosphere MGTOW reason. Oh, totally. Totally. Yep. Yep. It was right away. It was like sexual assault, domestic abuse, all this stuff. And then he was a chauvinist pig. He was a chauvinist pig, but they did not play it up at all. Can you imagine? Imagine if it wasn't. That's what I'm saying. In the anti-what, in the anti-man circle, they did, but not on the race channels. See, I mean, that's that's that's how detailed. It's like, well, yeah, he was anti-man. You know, yeah, like I was sure. So the reason I bring it up, anti-woman, excuse me. The reason I bring it up is

41:04 I'm totally with you on it's planned. And I think the way it works is: okay, we're ready. We've got everything in place. All the actors are ready. Everyone we need. We just need the right case. And we've seen this several times. You know, when it's seen this with Brown versus, we saw this with Brown versus Board of Education. We saw this with Claudette Coven. She wasn't in the right case. We needed Rosa Parks. Yeah. You know, so don't we can't exactly exactly. And even if you, and if you want to go back to the Scottsboro Boys, which I will cover in another show, that's when the communists really got a foothold in race relations in America. And it was like, yeah, so well, so I can just see how it goes down. It's like, holy crap, this is a good one.

41:48 We got video. We got nine minutes. This is great. What's the guy's name, Chauvin? How do you spell it? Oh, no, no, no, no. Chauvin, make it chauvin. This is perfect. I'm sure they would just jizzen all over themselves for that. Oh, could not get any better. So that I think that was an addition later on. I doubt that that was set up and premeditated, but it was just kind of fell into their lap, I think. And now this is why I gear to piss the other side off. Do I think, do I think Derek Chauvin got justice? No, I did not. Because when you heard how political figures were speaking before the verdict, that's not by the definition of justice, that's not justice.

42:31 Normally, people say we will defer to after the trial is over to make comments. That means we've heard it all. We've always heard this. But you know, it stuff does creep in. And I think the media, they pushed it so hard right away. When we started this very episode, you actually said, you know, George Floyd was murdered. Yes. I've always said Janine Pirro, Judge Judge. Let me put it properly with respect on her name. Judge Janine Pierrot, we shared the same perspective. That was murder one. Okay. That was always my perspective. Because the reason why I say this, and this is from my Law and Order, First 48, Lifetime Movies, Law Movies, Legal Education.

43:19 I don't read legal. It's as good as any jury in America has had. Well, like, like they say, perception is reality. And if I'm looking at the lens of how TV has told me how these cases are supposed to go, premeditation could be simple as man come home, find his wife in bed with her lover. If he pulls out his gun, shoots both of them dead, that's not murder. Right. But if he goes downstairs, goes to the car, smokes a cigarette, come back up, kills them, that's pre-ted, premeditated murder. Yeah, well, he had some meditation there. That's meditation time. Right. What I'm saying is, so by the judge's perspective, he had nine minutes to decide, I don't want to do this anymore.

44:02 Right, right, right. I'm not going off the imagery with his hand in his pocket doing the Colin Kaepernick Neil. See, that's another simple, like, all of this. There's a lot of this is all of this, man. It's, it's a, it's a major spell. It's a major spell cast on the world. Not just. just America, the world, because you had riots. I said, yes, I said, riots all around the world, burnings all around the world in the name of justice. In the name of George Floyd, even all around the world. In Holland, in Holland. They had slaves. No, it was never about George Floyd. Okay. What I'm saying, this is what I'm saying. It was never about George Floyd. George Floyd was just, we're going to get to what George Floyd was.

44:47 It was that we have to do this and we're going to push for justice. And even when we got justice, we can't stop there. We got to keep continuing on for justice. It's like, wait, we didn't even get justice. You know what I mean? Like, and then we're going to keep pushing for it, but we should be celebrating it. It's like, it's a complete mind screw. It's a complete mind screw. So where I'm going now is, I don't think because I and I have to put myself in this. If I'm on the hot seat and I'm on trial, I don't want political figures speaking about on my case. So if I think anything of that for anybody else, no matter what I may feel about that person, they deserve a fair day in court and they deserve

45:29 the right to, you know, for political muscle not to be leaned on their case. Because if I think differently, that makes me a hypocrite. And what we do on this show is point out hypocrisy. Yeah, for sure. It's one of our strong suits. So I'm going to go to Tucker Carlson. I'm going to lean on Tucker for this one. And Tucker won. So there was a political context around this trial. Politics shouldn't have any effect on any trial. Again, that's antithetical to what justice is. But they did intrude at every level of this case. We'll tell you how. After the verdict, Joe Biden declared that systemic racism is a stain on this country's soul.

46:11 A jury in Minnesota found former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin guilty on all counts to the murder of George Floyd last May. It was a murder in the full light of day and it ripped the blinders off for the whole world to see the systemic racism the vice president just referred to. Their systemic racism is a stain on our nation's soul. The knee on the neck of justice for black Americans. Enough. Enough of the senseless killings.

46:55 Today, today's verdict is a step forward. Systemic racism, a term that neither Joe Biden nor anyone else who uses it has ever defined with any precision whatsoever. But more striking is Biden's posture. You'd think he'd be excited by this. Just this morning, as the jury was still deliberating, the president of the United States said he was praying for a guilty verdict. I'm praying the verdict is the right verdict, which is, I think, it's overwhelming in my view. I wouldn't say that. Let's see. The jury was sequestered now. Not hear me say that. Yeah, President Biden throwing a little cherry on top of the spell there.

47:36 And it's a reason why they had to do this because I think everybody or the majority of America was on, well, if he gets found guilty, nobody's going to cry for this guy. A very small population is going to cry for this guy because it's like, I mean, like some people really feel that he should have been found guilty. Other people is like, well, just to get things, it's kind of like the vaccine, just to get things back to normal. You know what I'm saying? We need him guilty. Well, I mean, everywhere this people were saying this. I mean, even at Regina King, the opening of the Oscars, she said, well, I'm glad that we got a guilty verdict. Otherwise, it would have had to change these pumps for marching boots. Well, that's the thing.

48:17 They had to manufacture the outrage because there was, if they would have just let it play it out and not said anything, it would have been he's found guilty. People would have been satisfied and it would have just been, you know, marked the end market today. What I believe, yeah, what I believe in my perspective is they tampered with the case. So then there will be an appeal and then you have a part two. Yes, well, yes. And that would be Maxine Waters. Yes. So I'm just saying, the whole, everybody, they were out here saying, okay, hold on a second. Because this is a good point. Because the general parlance was, well, the judge made a big deal and it was televised.

49:00 And that's always important. It's always important what the media shows. It was televised, the judge saying, well, you know, it looks like on appeal, you've got grounds for dismissal because of Congresswoman Maxine Waters' statements. And the narrative. narrative on the right, I think, was mainly, yeah, you know, it's like the jury just gave it to him because he's going to get off on appeal. But really, certainly from the mainstream media, I can't speak on behalf of the judge, but the media is corrupt. They probably set that up to get have a one-two punch. Is that every great, every great fight? You got to have a trilogy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is this is why they, because if they, if nobody would have said anything, it would have just been, yep, go ahead and lock him up.

49:46 You know, it'll have been story over. And then, you know, I hate to put this out in the atmosphere, but you know how it ends. He gets the Dahlma treatment in cell or the Epstein treatment. And it's just, it's, it's over. But it's like, no, no, no. No. We got to keep this thing. We got to keep this thing going. We got to give gas in it because one reason you got 45 missing. So your race sector in your news is saying you have a huge void. And they only like, no. And they only have about less than two years to do something. Yes. So they have to be foot on the pedal to the metal. So I guess we stopped off at Tucker 1. Let's go in and go into Tucker 2.

50:28 When was the last time a sitting president weighed in on a jury decision before it was made? Answer? Never. The White House was asked about this just a few hours later and pretended that Joe Biden hadn't actually said what he actually said. You're not able to clarify what is overwhelming, the evidence, the case presented by the prosecution. We're not going to get ahead of the outcome. I expect when there is a verdict, he will have more to say. The president has talked about the importance of an independent judiciary. Why is it appropriate for him to weigh in on the verdict, even though the jury is corrupted? I wouldn't think, I don't think he would see it as weighing in on the verdict. He was conveying what many people are feeling across the country.

51:12 Yeah, he was just conveying what many people were feeling. He wasn't weighing in as the single most powerful man in the world on a jury verdict that hadn't been reached yet. He didn't say what you saw him say. Just as an FYI, first, I don't know if this is the three rounds, but Chauvin's sentencing date set for June 1st. And then after that, then we can go for appeal. So maybe we got a little sentencing fund to have first. It's the wave. It's like, yeah, the high. Like the pro-George Floyd crowd is on the high right now. And then the synagogue is going to be the kick in the nad, you know, just like the Botham John case.

51:57 We've seen this before, where the cop got convicted, but when they came back with the sentence, it was like 10 years. Right. And then the double whammy is going to be, he's going to come around and appeal. Yeah. Shoot. So, I mean, I don't, I don't see. I hope it don't play out like I think it's going to play out. But then he loses appeal and then he goes in and gets the Epstein treatment. And it's like, okay, everything's wrapped up. You know, good to go. And I don't want to put that out in the ether, but we've seen this play out. We've seen it. Yeah. You're just calling the trend a trend. That's all we're doing. And then the way they gaslight people, they knew what they were doing. Joe comes out, says it, and then she goes, like, he didn't say that.

52:40 And it's like, wait, I just heard what I heard. I'm speaking from not from my perspective. I'm speaking from the pro chauvin side to say, we heard what we heard him say. And she's like, he didn't say that. Yeah. So it's constant gaslighting to bring the temperature up on that side. So this show is not really deconstructing anything. This show is a warning. This show is this show is going to tell you what's coming. It's a prediction. And I hope I'm wrong. Yeah. I hope I'm wrong, but I understand how these things play out. I mean, I've seen it. And what I mean by understanding. Well, you've seen it and you've tracked it, my brother. You've tracked it.

53:20 Well, I've seen it all my adult life. And what I'm saying, even a young adult, you got to remember in 95, I was 15 years old, starting saying, and then Rodney King, I was saying, of conscious age to see how that played out. So I see how these things playing out. But the only thing is the juice is on the other side now. But it's still going to be the same outcome where nobody's satisfied with the outcome. And it just breeds more contention for each side. Because how I see this ending, one side pops off, the other side mops them up. And then that side gets mopped up. Yeah. Well, that's, isn't that, isn't that how you want the script to always play out if you want to prolong it? It's just convenient.

54:04 Yeah. It's just convenient. Yeah. Which I think, like you said, they're trying to keep. this thing going to the midterms. Yeah. You know, so they can motivate you. I mean, don't, I didn't, what I was not poo-pooing was the effect on the outcome of the election. What I'm saying is that election decided which way this world allegedly is going to go. Oh, yeah. The midterm is going. There has to be a slaughter somewhere in the midterm, whether it's the actual voting itself or something beforehand, for sure. They're desperate. These people are desperate. They're desperate to get something kicking, distract at all costs, make decisions.

54:44 While executive order at the executive order gets signed, and everybody gets put into boot. And I want to make one more thing. Tucker said that he hasn't, nobody has clearly defined systemic racism, but you haven't heard our podcast. Excuse me. And we know your producers listen to us anyway. So you might as well go back to what episode? Early first 10, maybe we just 10. We laid it out there, which we say by the definition from Nellie Fuller, white supremacy is a one-world government. And the hard thing about it, it's kind of hard to be a truther and believe in there's a globalist and a system and not believe, you know.

55:23 But that's what we cover with Megan Markle. It's like it's not about color. It's about it's a certain group of people that have power over everybody. And as we always say, it starts with us. It only starts with us. Oh, yeah. I'm well aware, Mo. Well aware. So I'm just now I have an example of how these things normally are handled when a trial is pending. I have Obama speaking on Trayvon. Well, I'm the head of the executive branch, and the Attorney General reports to me. So I've got to be careful about my statements to make sure that we're not impairing any investigation that's taking place right now. However, but obviously, this is a tragedy.

56:08 I can only imagine what these parents are going through. And when I think about this boy, I think about my own kids. And I think every parent in America should be able to understand why it is absolutely imperative that we investigate every aspect of this and that everybody pulls together, federal, state, and local, to figure out exactly how this tragedy happened. But my main message is to the parents of Trayvon Martin.

56:53 You know, if I had a son, he'd look like Trayvon. And, you know, I think they are right to expect that all of us, as Americans, are going to take this with the seriousness it deserves and that we're going to get to the bottom of exactly what happened. Now, is this not the speech that the president did at the time with a tear in his eye? No, that was that was no one. I don't think he cried for Trayvon. He cried for the Sandy Hook. Sandy Hook. No, black kids don't get tears. Come on, come on. Not from President Obama. No. No, no, I mean, which that, no, and I said that, I know I said that tongue-in-cheek, but that was a sentiment.

57:35 Like, oh, you can cry for them. Oh, I bet this is. But you can't cry. I bet it was a sentiment, sure. And in this show, I'm going to expose a lot of how the sides felt. You know, because what that reason why I'm doing is not for the emotional effect. It's for when you see something, you process it, and it's like, okay, that's how you wanted me to feel. Okay, that's the initial hit. It's like, wait, why did you want me to feel like that? There was another funny thing about this particular case as I was looking at from my perspective, this before we had met

58:14 was the fact George Zimmerman and this immediate assumption as to him being white. And when he turned out to be Hispanic, it became a little more problem. He was white. Yeah, I mean, I know, I know what you're saying, but yeah, yeah, exactly. But that was how you get thrown. That's the narrative. We can't let the facts get in the way of it. No, no, no, no, no, no. But why? Okay, so why wasn't that an example of a heinous brown on black crime? Because that's not a thing. Like they're pushing on the black on Asian. You see how that we see? It's not a thing, man. It's not a thing. Brown on black is not a thing. It's not a thing. Black on Asian, that's a thing.

58:55 We all know this. And we highlighted that how long ago on the first pandemic show we had. Because I just. got to point this out that, um, what is her name? Um, your favorite lady from Exem Radio. Uh, oh, uh, um, not Valerie, um, Karen Hunter, Karen Hunter. Remember, she just came out with that weird statement about the kunk flu, and it was you know, completely racist, and we had that whole talking point come up, yeah, sure, and then now we see it in effect.

59:32 What you're seeing, and I'm just we're going to cover this on another show, but what you're starting to see is Asian people start being grafted into whiteness, yes, the Asian people. It's like the Irish and the Italian. Well, they are, they uh, they are considered white adjacent, uh, as yeah, but that's how you start out. That's the JB team, yeah, you're saying early on the varsity is on no agenda. We got tons of um uh we got tons of uh uh I call them the amps, the Asian millennial producers, and they're they're telling me all this stuff. So, oh, yeah, no, now we're white adjacent, and they're sick of it, man. They think it's all bullcrap. Well, that they are being uh abused, made the victim.

1:00:17 Yeah, I mean, you have to be the victim. It's like, okay, now we can put you in the group, but I want to digress too much, but I just want to lay that out because we did point it out way ahead of time. Um, now we got to go back. I believe we're on Tucker 3. Yeah, he was just conveying what many people were feeling. He wasn't weighing in as the single most powerful man in the world on a jury verdict that hadn't been reached yet. He didn't say what you saw him say. If that sounds like a familiar defense, it's exactly what Maxine Waters and her defenders throughout Washington are using today after Waters threatened a jury with violence if it didn't find a guilty verdict. We have got to not only stay in the street, but we have got to fight for justice.

1:00:58 And I am very hopeful and I hope that we're going to get a verdict that can say guilty, guilty, guilty. I don't know whether it's in the first degree, but as far as I'm concerned, it's first degree. Well, we got to stay on the street and we've got to get more active. We've got to get more confrontational. We've got to make sure that they know that we need this. So, there's a reason police were all over the streets in cities across the country last night, and it's that it's the threat of violence. And Maxine Waters threatened violence before the jury had even begun to consider the facts of the case. That's so far over the line that we read. Some Democrats were shocked by it, and yet no one condemned it.

1:01:42 That includes the president, and it includes the most powerful people in the Democratic Party. Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer of Maryland. They came out in support of Maxine Waters. Yeah, it was truly bizarre. And no, I mean, I expected it. And the reason why I said that is Maxine Waters is the perfect pawn because you send her out, she says incendiary things, and then when she gets attacked, it's like, how are you going to attack an old little black lady? Like, what kind of animal are you? Maxine. But she's out there saying, oh, we got to be persistent and keep applying pressure. It's like, hmm. I remember somebody else using language that it wasn't that incendiary.

1:02:24 And it's like, she got all bent out of shape over it. Oh, you mean President Trump? Yeah, January 6th. So if you want to use the same standard, and that's what you have to do if you want to be actually talking about real justice, not this worship they have going on, but actual, you know what? This is the standard. And we're going to judge people fairly by that standard. So it's like, if you judged 45 Savage that way, now are we going to use that standard towards you and see how it pans out? And if it is, then you're doing, you're inciting riots and everything else you accuse him of.

1:03:06 I'm just saying, by your own standard. And if you don't want to believe me, my perspective or her standard, let's go and get her in her own words. I have a question for you. Yes, please. And we'll probably get to the $27 million that the city paid the Chauvin family, George Floyd's family, which I think was also very corrupting or slash maybe intimidating or influencing any potential jury pool at the time. Do you feel that this has become for some families

1:03:45 just like a. This is going to sound horrible of me saying it, but like a business model? Yeah. No, they're not the business model. What they are are. have you or your family been killed by cops? If so, call you know what I'm saying. Okay, that's what I meant. Yeah, call Crump, call Crump, Crump and Trump and crew, Trump and crew, and they come in and they say, you know what, and it's all played out. And Crump's like, you see that crowd outside? Yeah. You see that crowd outside? And what's really sad is knowing a little bit about a celebrity being a celebrity, being in the public eye.

1:04:27 Oh, man, it takes a lot of strength not to succumb to that. And you start, you will believe anything when a crowd is chanting your name and when they're loving you and you're feeling that and that vibe is going back and forth. You'll believe anything anyone tells you. But it's pressure, but also it's a pressure release valve. Because when the family gets the money, it's like, okay, here, family, here's your script. And they go out, we forgive everybody. We just want calm and peace. We don't want no problems. And it's like, okay, we can take the pressure off the riots. You know, you let the pressure out. And it's like, you know what? We didn't get what we wanted.

1:05:07 And, you know, he can turn up the heat again and the pressure goes right back up. But they don't want to really have, they don't want no smoke. No. They don't really, they don't really want to mean they don't want it. Because if you listen to Maxine Waters, she's like, whether you believe it's murder one or not, why don't you come out like Judge Janine? You know what I'm saying? Come full-throated with like, this was murder one. Right. You know what I'm saying? And this is some bullcrap that we didn't get murdered. But it's like they have to be very balanced. Like, if you think it's murder one, I kind of think it was, but if you give us what we want, then we will tell them to stand down. And that's another thing. The fact that nothing happened after this verdict.

1:05:48 Nothing. That tells you somebody has their hand on the go, but this is not organic because you don't control organic like that. Wow. Okay. Not a window was busted, nothing. It was just like, all right. We won. Yay. You know, it's like, then you bring out the fourth wave. I always talk about that fourth wave. Yeah. That's the cover. That's the clean man. That's the, you know, that's the bag man. It's those are the happy dancing protesters. Like, yay, we did it. You know, it's like, goon, stand back. But I mean, to have that kind of control over that, that tells you that this is, this is scripted and it's not in the form of the from the beginning.

1:06:36 I'm talking about from the point it happened on. I'm not going to get into that. Not, I'm not saying if it could have been, it couldn't have been, but I like to stay with the facts. Yeah. Yeah, we already established it. Once you had the perfect scenario, it was just fitting it into the plan. So now we're going to go and listen to Maxine Waters in her own words. Did we already hear that? No, we no. No, we didn't. And lastly, Congresswoman, I read something yesterday, and it really struck me and has stayed with me, written by a black person who said, We are not asking you to shoot them like you shoot us. We are asking you to not shoot us like you don't shoot them.

1:07:17 You've certainly been in Congress 30 years, seen a lot. What are your thoughts on the hypocrisy and double standard that so many are talking about in our society as far as if the rioters yesterday had been black, how the outcome most likely would have been much different? Well, I tweeted something similar to that. And I basically tweeted: if this had been Black Lives Matter, you know, acting in the way that the oath keepers and the proud boys and the white supremacists had stormed that capital, what do you think would have happened?

1:07:55 Do you think, you know, in essence, they would have gotten away with it? And, you know, I got the kind of responses where, you know, everyone was saying, of course, we know they said it in so many ways. Blood would be all over the place. They would be killed. They would be shot. Everybody believes and knows that blacks are treated differently, even when they are peacefully protesting. And so we also know that, you know, whites feel more comfortable in their protests that they will not be shot and killed. So you see the double standard. I mean, it's so thick. And the hypocrisy is so thick. And she was speaking on hypocrisy.

1:08:37 That's the weird thing about it. Brazil meta, isn't it? Brazenly meta. I'm going to be very hypocritical about hypocrisy for a moment. So let's get back to Tucker and Tucker 4. That's so far over the line. that we read. Some Democrats were shocked by it, and yet no one condemned it. That includes the president, and it includes the most powerful people in the Democratic Party. Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi, Steny Hoyer of Maryland. They came out in support of Maxine Waters. And then state media, literally state media, public broadcasting system, came out today with an explanation at the White House press briefing. Watch this propagandist explain what Maxine Waters really meant.

1:09:22 Representative Waters, as you said, clarified. She said, My actual words don't matter. I wonder why the White House isn't also coming to the defense of Representative Waters, given the fact that she's now facing an onslaught of attacks, especially by, would say, Republicans. I wonder why the White House isn't saying we back what she said about being confrontational. She was obviously not threatening violence. There are civil rights leaders that are saying that's what civil rights is, is to be confrontational, to be active. Well, she could, she also clarified her own remarks. Yamisha, I think that's the most powerful piece to point to. That lady works for you. She literally works for public television. And there she is ardently flacking for lunatic Maxine Waters at the White House press briefing.

1:10:07 Oh, it's all normal. Don't worry. It's always been this way. It hasn't always been this way. Oh, yes, yumish. There's nothing like a good Yamish clip. And for Maxine Waters to say her words don't matter, when the whole time of my reclaiming my time, it's all about saying what I say matters. Now all of a sudden it doesn't matter. But she was sent out there. Hold on, hold on. My time. My time. One more. Stop. Reclaiming my time. There you go. So she was sent out there to be

1:10:48 to receive the target. It's like, I'm going to say these crazy, I mean, saying these things that normally no politician would say pre-verdict. Right. And then when the heat comes from me, and of course, this is the problem with the other side. They're so predictable. You could almost write it. It's like you're going to hear censure and whataboutisms and that kind of thing. It's when you become so predictable, then your opponents can kind of pull you into where they want you to go. And that's exactly what happened. So I guess we can go and wrap up with Tucker with Tucker 5.

1:11:26 And our leaders haven't always talked like they're seized by religious fervor. Here was the Speaker of the House today thanking George Floyd because he died in order to make the Democratic Party more powerful for his sacrifice. She said, Watch this. Thank you, George Floyd, for sacrificing your life for justice because of you and because of thousands, millions of people around the world who came out for justice. Your name will always be synonymous with justice. Unless we can change the law, this will be an episode. We change the law. We're going down a different path altogether.

1:12:09 So the guy dies on the sidewalk. And here this lady comes out and politicizes it so completely that he becomes sort of Democratic Party saint. Thank you for your sacrifice. This is grotesque. It's a cult, obviously. Yeah, it was bizarre. It is a cult. It is a cult. Yeah. It was bizarre, man. It was just bizarre. With three justices. You were sacrificed. You were sacrificed for justice, for justice, for justice. And I know I'm saying that, but I want you to get in your mind what there is. Justice is another sigual. Because, and I'm going to reiterate my point. Nobody got justice. Yeah. So the Republican sigil is liberty and freedom. And for Democrats, it's always been justice.

1:12:54 Yes. Justice. And so now we got to go back to show 48 because we laid out black men being the sacrificial lamb for other parties to come up. And this dovetails well when we talked about the Asian aspect as well. When one group wants to move up, they have to sacrifice black people, specifically black men. And this goes for show 48, Sacrifice One. So this lecture focuses on the ritual sacrifice of black men in particular as an instrument for creating a cohesive and unified body of people called white.

1:13:37 So in this development of the screen of racial contempt that I'm calling the first stage of sacrifice, while it certainly includes the murder of African Americans, it was the murder. murder of their humanity in the eyes of European Americans that was sacrificed in the development of white identity. More than just debasement, it was the symbolic murder of their identities offered up in order to engender another identity. So, Rene Girard writes: The purpose of sacrifice is to restore the harmony to community, to reinforce the social fabric.

1:14:18 And that the common denominator that exists behind all sacrifice is internal violence. And the dissensions, the rivalries, the jealousies, and the quarrels of the community by design are suppressed by sacrifice. You know, I haven't been talking to many people about the C word about the cult. But man, I've been telling more and more people, not specifically regarding this, but regarding a lot of different things. And I've said it's a spell. And whereas I think maybe probably pre-Corona, people would have looked at me like, you're out of your mind.

1:14:59 But I don't even get that anymore. Just get a. Yeah. Yeah, it is kind of a spell, isn't it? Let me define how I define witchcraft. Witchcraft is not but control. Okay. When you want control over somebody else, it's like, because that's what a spell is, right? You might think one thing, but I want you to think another thing, so I'll cast a spell on you and make you go the opposite way, the way I wanted you to go. So let's not get into the whole, not you, but I don't want people's mind to drift off into cauldrons and new eyes and that kind of thing. No, that's a different show. But this, just keep it very simple. It's just that when somebody wants to control your thoughts, mind control.

1:15:44 You know, so what do they do? They cast a spell on you. And the way, and if you heard in this clip, dehumanization, the Democrats dehumanized George Floyd. Thank you, George. Thank you for being a sacrificial lamb so we can bring about more peace and justice. And, you know, nothing for really for black men. Nothing. I mean, everybody else is going to come up. As I always say, we open the door and everybody else goes right in. That's right. And as you've seen, what legislation have you seen? None for black men. Nothing to protect, you know. If you want to say that's who being attacked, that's what the Democrats are saying, but then there's nothing that changed our life. But they know how to pick a victim. Yes. And that's the genius of it. And they got one handed to them.

1:16:28 Beautiful. And the one that they chose to highlight, he wasn't squeaky clean. So now it's the strike. If he would have been a Sunday school teacher done the same way, there's nobody who had an argument. You see, it's not, that's why they don't, that's why they don't pick cases like that. Yeah, because then we can't play out the whole scenario with three rounds of strife and violence and unrest. Yes, which all movies have that thing, right? You think it's one way and it comes back the other way and then it comes back to turns. I think what they call them. You have the turns in the script. So speaking of picking the victim, let's go ahead and get to number 19A.

1:17:09 So the system doesn't want us to go too far. So it needs to find a way to blow off steam through the process. They don't want to get rid of that intra community violence, but they just want to deflect it before it reaches the doors of the elites. So to deflect the violence that ultimately arises out of the competition, there needs to be a ritual victim, which is the third group. Someone who is marginal within the community, who does not represent a real threat of reprisal, who can't attack the system back. The dangers in this society are projected onto that victim.

1:17:52 Wow, man. I got to go back and listen to all of episode 48 now. That was so good. That's a great clip. And that's what they've been doing. But now, this is next clip is kind of a long clip. It's two minutes. We try to keep it at 1:30. But I have to let this play all the way out. So it's fine for Nancy Pelosi to go out and say George Floyd was a sacrifice. But when a black man, Neo, tries to say this year prior to when it happened, actually at his funeral, this is the response that he got. Okay, guys, so keep this. The third and final memorial for George Floyd, the 46-year-old black man killed at the hands of Minnesota police on May 25th, was held at the Fountain of Praise Church in Houston on Tuesday, June 9th.

1:18:36 Neo, who attended the service and performed a song, is now facing criticism after referring to Floyd as a sacrifice. This man changed the world. Change the world for. for the better. So, I just want to personally thank George Floyd for his sacrifice so that my kids can be all right later on. I appreciate, I appreciate the sacrifice, my brother. I genuinely do. Following his speech, Neo got visibly emotional when he sang Boys to Men's 1991 hit, It's So Hard to Say Goodbye Yesterday, in honor of the 46-year-old Floyd. Even so, Twitter immediately pounced on Neo for his seemingly insensitive remarks. Many people couldn't believe he would say such a thing, while others just implored celebrities to keep their mouths shut.

1:19:16 Here were some of the reactions: Everyone, when Neo said George Floyd's murder was a sacrifice, Neo, some of these so-called celebrities really need to reread their tweets before they hit that tweet button because when they assume they are tweeting something profound, they just wind up making an ass of themselves. Neo, out of all the things to say, you say that. Did Neo just call the murder of George Floyd a sacrifice? Neo just thanked George Floyd for his sacrifice so his kids can be safe. Some of those celebrities really need to be quiet because woo-child. Me after checking to see why Neo is trending. Do y'all not know we don't allow you to act up in the black church? Who put Neo in the pulpit? Who? This pic is real, real life in the black church. Every time I see a celebrity trending, I just know they said some dumb. Neo, really? Neo was so choked up while singing, he stopped several times to get through it. Man, please.

1:20:01 Neo said, I'd like to thank George Floyd for his sacrifice. Yep, you read right. Neo, with your ignorant, I just saw a clip of Neo saying he'd like to thank George Floyd for his sacrifice. What sacrifice, Neo? George Floyd was murdered. He didn't give his life to anyone. His life was taken from everyone. Why are celebrities even talking? Sacrifice, sacrifice, it was bloody murder. Neo should have just kept quiet. Black male celebrities have been nothing but an embarrassment these past few days. Nothing good coming out of their mouths. So the assertion here is: he can't be a sacrifice for black men. No, no, no, no. No, no, no, no. It needs to be for the cause, not for not for the black men. We can't even weaponize our own. What's wrong with you?

1:20:45 Ain't that crazy? What's wrong with you? Come on. Nancy Pelosi, an old rich white lady, and go out here and say thanks. And the way she said it, she wouldn't even see. She wasn't even somber. She's like, thanks, George. Wow. And I have to laugh to keep from crying because people think we're making this up. If you could talk to anybody before they start listening to the show, they probably thought black men were whiners, but it's like, no, nobody cares about us because everybody uses us for their own purpose. And congratulations. That sequence of clips that you set up perfectly to roll into that one. Yeah, we're going to make a podcaster out of you yet, Mo.

1:21:27 That was good. That was really, really good. Great clip. All right. So now we have MSNBC, and this is, I forget her name, but she's speaking on Joy Reed's show. And let's have how they speak on George Floyd as a sacrifice. This is our next blood sacrifice of still asking people to recognize our humanity. We saw this in the 60s. We saw this in the 80s. We're seeing it now. But if you look at the power structure, this is still black and brown people asking for equality. This is still white NFL owners allowing black players to kneel. This is still white NASCAR owners allowing black players to wear Black Lives Matter.

1:22:10 This is still white corporate power brokers at Starbucks allowing their employees to say Black Lives Matter. So for me, I'm still pretty angry about it. We're still in a space where we're asking a television landscape to please allow us to speak truthfully. Please don't sideline us. Please give us a platform to speak. I think in order for this country to have a true reconciliation and a true recognition of where we are and stop buying into a false narrative about who America is, we have to reimagine America. Previously, we could only see what was possible and even that seemed out of reach. In this moment, we are seeing the impossible and power concedes nothing. So this is a moment for us to take up ourselves and galvanize this movement and grab power.

1:22:55 So when I see the power structure start to shift, where we're not asking permission to live, to breathe, where we're not asking to hold on to our lives and to be allowed to pursue our livelihoods, then I would describe that as a seismic power shift. Wow. We, we, we, yeah, yeah, we. We certainly not black men. It's black women and white women, women of color, women in general. I mean, like, minorities. I mean, maybe, maybe, uh, black men have to have to take a page out of the old women's playbook, Lysis Satra, I think was at her name, and just say, okay, we're withholding all sex.

1:23:35 That may work. You know what? No, and I'm not saying that tongue-in-cheek, but the. but that's it's not, we're not withholding sex. We're withholding, and you open up a can of worms there. But now I got to address it. There's an undertone going on now that, and I brought his name up before Kami Samuels. That he says women control the access to sex, men control the access to relationships. So it's like, yeah, we'll date you, but we won't marry you. So that is a real phenomenon that's going on right now. And that's fought over on the gender war front, which you know, we cover the fronts here of the war.

1:24:16 You know, now we're on the race front, but we always go back, you know, the generational and the gender front as well. So that is being fought over there. It's funny that you said that, but that is a real thing. That is spot on, sir. But that is, thank you for doing the work. We have a lot more work to do. But is that not, I mean, is that being recognized by black women? Oh, hell yeah. Are they saying he has five to six women call on in every one of his shows, showing their frustration with this? Like, we'll date you, but we won't marry you until you meet our. And what I'm saying, we're not talking about all women here. No. We're talking about the strollers, you know, the people like the last speaker that

1:25:02 they want to pick and choose when they want to be feminist or whatever. And it's like, they can take their black off and on. And it's like, no, I'm a woman, you know, and I'm off for all women. You know, and it's like, either you're with us or you're not. And like, and I always say that those kind of women and these kind of people in general that use black lives are the minority, but that allow minority. So it sounds like everybody is saying this, but it's they, but what they're given is a bullhorn by the mainstream media to make you think all black people are saying this when it's only a few talking heads that, and it's funny that she would say that, you know, the media won't give us permission.

1:25:43 You know, you had to clear every word you said with MSNBC before you got on that screen. Absolutely. You better believe it. You had two pre-interviews, the whole nine. Man, not that bull, but that's what I'm saying. They can use the sacrifice word. Nancy Pelos can use the sacrifice word. But when Neo says it, and then he said George Floyd gave a sacrifice for his children, not justice. But, you know, so other black kids won't be killed. So you can't say that. Was the media dragging Neo for that as well, or just this one particular YouTuber or whatever shit? No, it was all over. It was well, you know, the media is led by social media. So whatever the true, whatever the narrative is on social media, the media runs with that. I mean, they don't even have any creativity left. And you know what?

1:26:27 People should appreciate that me and you could come here and have this honest conversation. We're in a vacuum. You know, we don't really care what the outside thinks, but we had to have these conversations. And that's really the bedrock of the Mofax with Adam Curry podcast. So I just want to say that. It is. And we take a great example and great words really as our path to getting here. First, the white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro. And the so-called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of the white man.

1:27:10 Then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only way that they'll ever do it. And that's exactly what we're trying to do here. In the words of Malcolm X, Mofax with Adam Curry is a value for value podcast, which means you can listen to it. There's no charge, there's no paywall, there's no Patreon, nothing like that. All we ask is that you contribute to the show. The three T's is time, talent, treasure. The treasure is critical. It is the only way we can get paid for what we're doing. There's no creepy Chinese Communist Party money, no big pharma, no advertising at all.

1:27:47 There's nothing. It's just you. And that's why you're all producers. And I did want to mention that now that Podcasting 2.0 is out and is starting to gain steam, there are four new podcast apps that I'd like you to try because with those, you can actually send us value through little pieces of Bitcoin, little mini pieces. And you can start off with just a couple of bucks if you just want to test it out. And that's the Breeze app, it's Pod Friend, it's PodStation or Sphinx Chat. All of those links are in the show notes at Mofax.com. But right now, we'd like to thank our producers, our executive producers. Actually, we're going to do the full, we're going to give it a whole load right now. And we start off with a very obvious

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1:29:12 Come on, man. My one sports reference. Mo! I will be the boat. Yes, that makes her the boat. She is the boat. I want to put it in there. She is the boat. Fantastic. Here's her note. I was hitting the mouth back in early 2019 when the smoking hot dude named Ben Name Ben, protector of the MW and defender of the electric grid, introduced me to No Agenda to further enrich our debates. I did not immediately take to the show, and then the same dude introduced me to Mo Facts, thinking it was more aligned with my focus areas. He was right. And now both shows consistently occupy the top two spots on my podcast list. I'm sending the same amount and same letter to both shows in return for the value all three of you and all the producers provide.

1:29:56 Last time around, I did not send a letter and Mo did not have the D Deadbeat in place. So please give me a D douche and D deadbeat. So we have to do this here. Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat. Now, I guess we also, do we also dedouch her? Is that I think so. She's the biggest, she's the biggest baller. You've been dedouched. You bet. You will do anything you want. Thank you for doing the work I don't have the patience to do. In the 2000s, I realized that American society was becoming a poorly scripted reality TV show where the need is currency and bad decisions are encouraged for ratings.

1:30:39 Hallelujah. At that point, I decided to start being more careful about what I let into my brain. Unfortunately, while ignorance is bliss, awareness is responsibility. And that is where y'all come in and help me stay aware without submitting myself to the tactics and the talking points. You are challenging the way I think and teaching me things I did not know. There are plenty of times I disagree with your take on things, but this is part of the value as well. Either way, I learn more by hearing and considering your perspectives. This donation technically makes me a dame. Please knight me Dame Taggart, Gypsy of the Southwest, and add some spicy hatch green chili to the roundtable. We did all that on the No Agenda show. But your damehood is, of course, recognized here at the MoFax show as well.

1:31:24 And she asked for some jobs, karma, which we gave her on No Agenda. For everybody who needs it, please play Trump or here she wants a Mo Karma. That is the part of this tri or this duopoly that she's introduced that we can do over here. So we will give you some special version to Mo Karma. You've got Mo Karma. And thank you so much, Dame Taggart. Can I explain two things here? Because I got to explain two things. She sent in and she should have actually been on 60. Well, she shouldn't have been on 61. And with her time, her

1:32:04 value came in before we did 61. But we didn't want to knock off the big baller of that show just because we were delayed. So I just want to explain to her what happened in that case. And in the next case, you're probably wondering why a cult fan is coming in at 44, $4.44. That's because we missed him. And it's like, so we have to take care of him next after, well, we couldn't put him over the biggest baller. So if we miss you, you go right to the top of the list. So, I mean, that was my bad. And before we get to a cult fan, a thank you to Sir Scampers, who sent in a producership, executive producership of 333.33.

1:32:44 Thank you, fellas, for the show. Finally returning some of the value I've received. Please deadbeat me and spread some Wusah karma for all. Love you, mean it. Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat. I'm sending you tons of good art energy. Take that. Take that. Take that. You've got karma. That was a convoluted one. That was special. Okay, now we got a cult fan. Sorry we missed you last time. Accult fan says, good afternoon, Mo. I donated $4.44 and was looking like prior show, I think, 61, but just heard the donation segment.

1:33:28 My donation was not listed. Making sure it didn't get lost at this point, I've sent a second 444 and another note since I thought my other one was already read. Do you have any light you can help shed on this situation? Well, we fixed it. We missed it. I must add the book title of my first note is not Versus, but and, as in Freemasons and Catholics/slash Catholicism, please reflect that. Uh, please reflect this, reflect this in the note when read. Am I missing something about this previous note? It's to the right. Ah, okay, should I read this? Yes, yes, please give the shout out because that was important too. Yeah, shout out to Joy, aka Joy Cakes, an excellent graphic artist and lovely lady overall.

1:34:08 Joy, I hope you're listening right now. This show and No Agenda are must-listens. It's a public service, and 444 is an angel number. So, there's two notes, two donations of $444. Second note is shout out to the old friend of mine who have been trying to give some food for thought. If I may ask, please, just one spiritual brother to another, where did you hear about the Archons, if I may? Archons are what Boulet members are called. MSNBC, we put the B in Boulet. All right, okay. Thank you. Tim Lang, $275 as an executive producer and no note, but we thank you very much, Tim. Appreciate it. Lanvi Nguyen, I think is the way you pronounce it, $250.

1:34:49 I'm a tiger auntie to a gorgeous. Hold on. She is the Tiger Auntie. She, she, I say something here. Okay. She has been very active on the lives that I do over on YouTube. Uh-huh. And she actually called in. So that's why I have to. She is the Tiger Auntie. Oh, no. Yeah. So, and for other people, if you want a little bit of more facts where you can see visuals and things that nature that we can't kind of do here, you know what I'm saying? Come over to the YouTube channel and I'll do that's like an interactive newsletter I got going to keep people. Do I have the link for that in the show? And I got to make sure that's in the show notes every single time so it's easy for people to find at MoFax.

1:35:29 I will do that. So the Tiger Auntie. Who is Tiger Auntie to a gorgeous and precious nine-year-old black Asian boy who lost his father two years ago? He'd been obsessed with George Floyd and the sentiments of victimhood. My heart cracked when he asked me if his chances of being a victim of police violence was 50% or 100%. This began my journey to attempt to learn and understand stories, history, and struggles of black lives in America. I traversed through Glenn Lorry, Larry Elder, Thomas Sowell, Coleman Hughes, and have been regularly and comfortably tuning into Hotep Jesus and MoFax. Thank you for the education. What you put together in the 60-plus episodes are educational nuggets which should be taught to young black boys like my nephew.

1:36:13 I'm very interested to turn your collection of information from those shows into educational collaterals, maybe as a book, digital or otherwise. If you're interested, I would love to brainstorm further on this idea because I'm certainly willing to do the work. Wow. I mean, well, we've always said that, and I think many producers have said that they feel the podcast is something that should be taught in schools. And I don't see why not. You should put it together. And I think we'd be happy to see that. Just make sure you've got our value for value details in there. So anyone who gets any value out of it can support the work. Would you say that's the way to go, Mo? And I would say that. And I also make sure she receives her value as well for doing the work.

1:36:54 So, I mean, it's like this is how this works. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. Well, she gets put right in there. Of course. That's how it works. This is the beauty of the value for value model. You don't have to have any contracts. You don't have to have any meetings. You know, it just kind of works out. And then, and as it turns out, people really like sending value for things that they find valuable. Just like your $250, which we very much appreciate, Tiger Auntie. $200 for this episode from Timothy Cato. Take my cuckbox, he says, Sir Tim of the Tunnels, Sir Tim. Met him many times here in Austin, I think. Wesley Olson, $200. Please D-Deadbeat me.

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1:38:22 It's the people. It's the people. One of my biggest dreams is building a ceramic studio, a ceramic studio. Our new property has a shed where my dad, mom, and I have been working all summer and fall to make that 30-year dream a reality. Mo, one of my favorite things to do is make art and listen to the podcast. I think about your full-time job, family, and how you want to diversify your income with your startup project. Well, hell yeah. That's the whole, that's the drive here. We got to get Mo out of his job. We got to do it having fun all the time. No jingles, just wanted to say hello. Thanks for inspiring my husband, Jake, and I to be better people and speak honestly with each other. Rochelle, you know, thank you. That means a lot to me because that means that you are hearing us being honest with each other.

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1:41:12 This is it, man. This is the debate you get. We might be eating barbecue while we do it, but this is how it works. We've never even met yet. One of these days, Mo and I will meet. And that was a $100 donation. Thank you very much. And the tribe, if you go to Sphinx, the way you would spell the Egyptian cat, Sphinx. Or actually, it's tribes.sphinx.chat. Search for MoFax. And if you have the app, then you can join the tribe there. Definitely need to start that community up. And that's what those apps are also for. $100 from Amanda L. Bates, dear Mo and Adam. I will try to be brief, but there's so much to say.

1:41:53 First and foremost, please accept this donation. Can I get a D-Dead beating? Yes, of course you can. I love handing it out. Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat. Please accept this donation for the immense value I'm receiving via the podcast. I started with no agenda, made my way to MoFax around episode 50, and I started from the beginning to where I am now, which is episode 17. To say my mind has been blown, my blood pressure has raised repeatedly, and I have literally laughed out loud on several occasions. It's not an understatement. I'm a 53-year-old white married female, and I'm embarrassed about the things I didn't know. At age 26, I was a new mom working full-time trying to finish a college degree in the evenings. I did not want to take English lit, so I opted for a black literature course because it sounded really interesting.

1:42:37 First class, the professor wanted everyone to admit that they were racist. There was no black students in the class. She used an example of not wanting to walk in Harlem alone out of fear as an example. I was a sobbing puddle in class because I felt like the most horrible human on the planet. I left her on break and did not, I left on break and did not go back. I couldn't, just couldn't bear it. A couple of students tried to help, but it was useless. Fast forward to COVID and where we are now. The lockdown forced me to deal with childhood trauma and abuse that I thought I had buried for good. It was a history that seriously created a lifetime of guilt and shame. And while it has been a good thing to finally face and deal with it, follow it up with this new climate of all white people are racist.

1:43:19 white guilt, etc., was too much. I refuse to feel guilty for which for things which I have no control over any longer. And that is where my deepest heartfelt gratitude for your show comes from. It has been a saving grace listening to your honest conversations, learning, paying attention to agendas, mind control, etc., has empowered me to trust that I am a good person with flaws, but I'm not inherently racist, and I will not allow anyone to call me that today or ever. Please, please, please keep doing what you're doing. And if possible, a little more karma would be sincerely appreciated. Apologies for the length. Much love and light from Mandy. And she sends us a $100 donation.

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1:46:08 In my search for truth, I've sought out information from all perspectives and have found the most insight coming from dialogue that the two of you have created with one another. It gives me immense sense of hope for the future of society. I did want to share one quick thought I had during last week's episode. When you were discussing Medea, it reminded me of the goddess Medea, Medea, M-E-D-E-A. Medea is the Greek goddess of illusion. I couldn't help but think that is what Medea, Medea, is an illusion hiding their true form while working sorcery. Yeah, I think I agree with that. I mean, that made total sense to me. Once I saw an episode, and if you saw the Oscars, yes, yes.

1:46:49 Oh, yeah. Doing that transformative thing again. Of course, Medea can also be related to media or just Terry Pyler, to Perry Tyler. The religious element to the vaccine also reminded me of the fun. Yes, the fun vaccine. It's an interesting rabbit hole to go down if you have some time. Thank you both with all sincerity, Alexis. Thank you, Alexis. One more observation. This is from my big homie, OG Truther. Unplug them, brother, unplug them. He says that vowels are interchangeable. So if you change that, you know, the I, I mean, that second E to I, it is media. Okay. Just want to make that point. Okay, so right on target. Perfect.

1:47:30 Lucky Eights here from Jacob Smith, 8888. The last show came into perfect timing for me and my wife. Excuse me. We both decided to not get the vaccine, and it has been very difficult socially since. We both got a mild case of COVID a few months ago and therefore no need for a vaccine. My father disagrees and has told me we are not welcome to be part of the family gatherings until we get vaccinated. We got into a very long and very heated debate where he delivered all the talking points that I've heard for months on the pro-vaccine side. What's very disturbing is that my father would not admit that his opinion is just that, an opinion. He says that COVID-19 is beyond all politics and his point of view is beyond reproach. He is right and I am selfish and inconsiderate. Of course, he has no time for any counter.

1:48:14 counter-argument because there's no time to find out what mRNA is. Needless to say, this has shook me to my foundation and has shown me how scared my dad really is. Without MoFax, no agenda, the God, my understanding, I found through AA and the community of like-minded friends, I probably would have gotten the shot out of fear of being disowned from my own family. You provide an invaluable service, and I love you too like brothers. Thank you, Jacob. I'm having my own version of that with my family, which we can get into another time. But yeah, I may never see my aunt and uncles again. Wow. Yeah, yeah. I mean, there was a family newsletter going around about how everyone got the vaccine and they won't go anywhere unless anyone's vaccinated.

1:48:59 And we're supposed to have my dad's burial, which got, you know, he was cremated, but he's still in Holland. And he has a burial plot in upstate New York in Armonk. And so, you know, everyone had to cancel their trips. So that's going to happen eventually. And, you know, my aunts and uncles, they're in their 90s now, you know, the late 80s, 90s. I'm sure that they won't want to see me. I mean, this is, I mean, and the whole family is, they're going to think I'm nuts. And I'm from Texas, which doesn't help. And this goes to show you the power of the cult. Yeah. Notice, if any other group would have said, you know what, if you don't believe this in feeling a religion,

1:49:41 I won't be around you. I can't be around you. You would call it a cult. Yeah. So I just want to point that out to people. No, you're absolutely right. And it's just, it's amazing. It's just amazing how odd it is that even if you say, you know, I'll get a test. No, no, no. None of it's good enough. So feeling your pain there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll survive, but still, it's like, wow, yeah, I'm bad stuff. ClevelandSoapworks.com says thanks for the reconstruction. GBG for 10% off. Is there something beautiful soap? Yeah. Oh, really?

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1:56:35 All right, so we heard Tucker Carlson say that they're a cult. I agree that they're a cult. Now we have Rose McGowan. Well, as some of you know, some of you don't know if you've heard my name or read anything on me in the media. I grew up in a cult and it was a very famous cult called Children of God. And it gave me a superpower. It gave me the ability to see the control and the propaganda machine, especially in the U.S., for what it is and how it harms people and how the left can harm people just as much as the right if they go very, very deep into it and ignore all other aspects of kind

1:57:17 of reality in a way. And that you're serving a master that might not be serving you. And I always say I come in peace. I am not here to make people feel bad about their political choices, but I am here to say that you might be in a cult too if you don't know the signs. And I do believe Democrats, most especially, are in a deep cult that they really don't know about and aren't really aware of. And I leave the Republicans alone more because I do respect people more that are like, this is what we are. This is what we're about. This is what we're against. Whereas I find that the Democrats are really pretty much almost against all the same things.

1:58:02 They're against changing the world. for the better. And they're for keeping a system in place that is for so few people and benefits so few, but they masquerade as the helpers. I'd forgotten all about that. Yeah. It's not really discussed that often, but I'd forgotten all about her growing up in a cult. It's so true. And she says she has a superpower. So, I mean, we always defer to the subject matter expert. Yes, we break for superpowers. Right. Still waiting on mine. You have superpowers, Moe. You just don't know it that well yet, but you got them. Yeah. So, but Rose McGowan is not a

1:58:49 severe, even jellical, staunch conservative. No. And for her to come, you even, she has some hesitations. Like, well, if you go deep down, and so she wasn't even comfortable saying it, but then she came out and said it that they're a cult. Yeah. Which, I mean, I don't say that lightly because when you hear people say that they're whatever, whatever the divide is, my family won't deal with me because I'm on the other side of the conflict. That's scary talk. And that's that is like telltale signs of just I'm speaking back, just my

1:59:31 experiences. When you have a family member like join a church per se, and if you want to join that church with them, it's like, I can't be around you heathens, you know, you know, you sinners, that kind of thing. That's real cult talk. And I see this semblance here. Well, hopefully she's going to tell us how to identify this. Well, let's go into 24. I'm embracing in my life right now, really just almost healing in a way, not just for me, but for so many others. You know, during the Me Too media period, it was just triggers for so many women and men alike, you know, everybody really. And it was a painful period for very many people, as it was for me. Sure.

2:00:13 And my persecution and awakening from being a Democrat was so much about what I do and what I say now, and so much about realizing how hardcore of a cult it is. You know, how interesting it is to women and the people it says it's going to help. Then why haven't they achieved anything? Stop asking these awful questions, Rose McGowan. Rose, please. I've been asking the same thing for 62 episodes. I mean, where are the tangibles? Yeah, there you go. Tangibles. But that's what she's asking for.

2:00:51 Don't you see? And she used the word awakening. And we see these cycles throughout history called great awakenings. I think we're probably on our fifth one right now, where people are waking up from the slumber that the news puts you in and the spell that puts you under to say, you know, hold up, wait. I'm going to trust my eyes, not what I'm being told. And it's very divisive. But I just want, I think we're in the midst of another great awake. That was her words, not my words. Yeah, I would even call it a renaissance. Yeah. So, I mean, we're going to come out of this good things. We're going to come out.

2:01:31 You come out of a renaissance with a lot of great things, including great art. Well, we're going to go back to real facts, real justice, not these narratives that people mean when they say these words, but actually, let's put it on the table. Let's weigh it up, you know, and figure out what it is and what it isn't, not what we're told that what it is, what it isn't. So her saying that about the cult, we got to go back to show number 32 because we talked about this before, this phenomenon. And this was technology controlling your mind. I can tell you as a mental health professional, someone who has been helping people get out of cults and mind control and brainwashing situations for 40 years, constantly people are confused.

2:02:22 What is a cult? What is mind control? What is brainwashing? Oh, my boss brainwashes me. Oh, advertising brainwashes me. The government brainwashes me, etc. But what I'm here to say is actually, I want to present a model for you to think about a spectrum from healthy to unhealthy influence. Healthy influence, there's informed consent. You know what you're getting involved with. You know about the person. There's choice. On the destructive side. side. There's deception, there's manipulation

2:03:05 on the healthy side. It respects your free will, it respects your conscience, where the unhealthy side is using guilt manipulation, fear manipulation, and wanting you to become tranced out, obedient slaves. And we have on this continuum some themes again. This is not a binary of all or nothing. This is a spectrum. And my call to action is: your minds are precious, and only you should control your mind. Oh, man. That's an isolate. Yeah, really. It's a bumper sticker. That's what that is.

2:03:48 Yeah, for sure. Who was this again? Oh, I forget who that was. That was Stephen Hassan. Stephen Hassan. I believe that was from a TED Talk, I believe, where he was speaking from. Yes, yes, yes. I think you're right. So they're saying it's that it's this thing where something's going to kill you outside, but go outside, protest, don't respect social distancing, but now that's over. Now go back in your house because something's going to kill you outside. And people are just like, okay. Yeah, and that's that really truly when it was the it wasn't just Black Lives Matter.

2:04:30 It was the protest. I think it was in Brooklyn or in another borough in New York. And it was the LGBTQ Black Lives Matter concert when people were packed shoulder to shoulder. I mean, that was clearly the moment when everyone could know that not just the coronavirus lockdowns and fear-mongering, but also this whole Black Lives Matter Inc. that they were both bull crap. And it was months ago now. I mean, it was a year ago almost. And it's just fascinating that on the flip side of that, if somebody didn't wear their mask and the cops roughed them up, the cult awoke would say, yeah, he deserved it.

2:05:10 Yeah, putting the public in danger. You're endangering people. Yeah. You know, you're an occult when you don't see through that. And that's the scary. I mean, because I'm on the outside, and when you talk to people that you've known for years and then you try to point it out to them and their reaction, it's like, wow. Like, and I think somebody said it in the note previously that they just regurgitate talking points from, I mean, like verbatim. It's, it's, well, but that, but I can't call it anything else. I mean, I wish I could call it something else. When I was a kid, when I was a kid, the way you would learn a language

2:05:53 was with tapes, like a Burlitz tape. And you had it on your Walkman and you had your headphones on. You were repeating like a mantra. You were repeating whatever the instructor was saying on the tape and you would learn the language. I'm sure it's still done that way to a degree, but it was very specifically. He has stuff in your ears. It's subliminal. And now with all the noise that's going on around us, you're just doing this. You're literally learning the language, the language of woke, and you're just repeating things. And you're, you know, just like these tapes, when someone says, bonjourline, you know, your Pavlovian response because you've practiced it is, bonjour, monsieur le profiser.

2:06:35 So when it's like, you know, say, say her name, say her name, say his name, say his name, no justice, no peace. These are mantras. That's all part of this. I'm all in on the spell stuff now. That's so a part of the spell. So much. It's so obvious. And it's not just us recognizing it. Now we were on the, you know, we're on the leading edge of it, but now it's just like everybody's starting to see it. And it's, it's just, I mean, it's sad in one way, but it's just fascinating in another way that how well it worked.

2:07:12 And I'll reiterate this point. And it's kind of how I did the show in these order. I mean, it's some method to the madness that if we're not locked in our house 24-7, then I don't think the spell works as much. But when you're isolated, I mean, that's what a cult does. It isolates you first. It isolates you from loved ones. You know, it's like, so. Yeah, and that isolation doesn't have to be necessarily a physical isolation to proximity, although six feet of distance helps, but you can also isolate people by concealing their faces. That as well, but I'm talking about physical isolation because I think me and you

2:07:53 don't really feel the isolation. isolation because we are married and have family. So you're not isolated. I'm talking about the target audience of this cult, single people. Yes. People may have seven, 14-day runs where the only way they go out is go to the grocery store, you know, and come back home. And while they're at home, they're constantly being inundated with this information. Yeah. It's scary times, man. I don't want to be a fear monger, but. Well, no, we're all seeing it. We're all seeing it. And that energy, that isolation is being converted into very negative energy.

2:08:34 Well, that's the only outlet. It's like if you can go outside if you do what we want you to do. And that's the only way you can get out. So now we've talked about mind control. Now we got to see how the mind really works. Now, the actual process of brainwashing is somewhat disappointingly abstract and inconcrete. There's no three-step guide to brainwashing your cult followers. The process is more of an art than a science. So here's your scientific three-step guide to brainwashing your cult followers. The first stage is break people down. You know, get them broken. So that's Rick Ross, No Relation, and he's also an expert on cults. He calls this process coercive persuasion since he's an academic and doesn't have to worry about clickbaiting YouTube viewers.

2:09:18 Say you get invited to a talk or a dinner by a group of people that you've never met before, and suddenly you're like the center of attention. And everybody's showering you with affection and praise and trust. And this is something that a lot of cults will do because that's a very irresistible thing to be at the center of somebody's attention. Making people feel special is an overwhelmingly great feeling that traps them in. Overall, in this stage, you need to, as Rick says, talk about everything negative in the world, negative in their life, put a lot of pressure on them to crack and break.

2:09:57 And then second, change them. You know, once they're in that broken state, introduce your ideas. That's so good. Let me show you how this works. Here's how you're doing. Hey, black people. Hey, black people, I know you've been ignored, but here's your chance for all of corporate America to see you. Black lives matter. We're going to give you equity. Now it's like, okay, then they break you down. It's, you know, that's how it works. It is standard practice. It's mind control 101.

2:10:40 And the thing is, people say, well, why don't they see the pandering? Thing about flattery is even though you know it's a lie, you like it. You like it? Yeah. Yeah. If somebody comes like, hey, you look like you lost some weight and you know you've put on weight, you're still going to eat it up. Right. And so that's kind of back to my to my business model question. You know, families, like they get all this attention and adoration and they get caught up in it and it's just regardless. And it's a shared win because it's like the family won, we win. Yeah. You know, these are these symbolic victories. I mean, you have people going out right

2:11:20 and saying, we did it. We did it. You know, what you realize you didn't get justice, right? If you say that, you might get, you know, beat up or something. I mean, all I'm hearing is we have more work to do. Well, that's the beatdown. It's like you won for a minute and now we're going to reach you down to it. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. There'll be no celebration. We have more work to do. Lots more work to do. Mind control three. As a cult leader, you'll probably have some sort of mission for your followers, whether it be political, religious, or something else. The second stage is where you fix it in your followers' minds. And people won't necessarily accept what you say immediately because if you're a cult leader, you're probably saying something controversial, something novel, something anti-conformist along the lines of doomsday is coming or let's kidnap people or hand dryers are the work of the devil.

2:12:12 They're loud, they're slow. And you know what? You probably think that they're better for the environment, but the optimistic studies say that they're only 20% better, while some others say that they're not even greener at all. Did you know that hand dryers actually increase the bacteria on your hands by 117%? You're better off not washing your hands at all. Hand dryers kill. That was just an example. And let me be clear. We're not just talking about Black Lives Matter. We're talking about one of the biggest cults is the green, green, you know, the climate. climate change, climate emergency, comics change? Yeah, and it's prophecy.

2:12:55 It's a religion. The world's going to end in 12 years. Ooh, that's a good way to say when someone says it. Oh, I didn't know you were religious. Watch their brains fry. That's exactly what it is. It's a prophecy. Yeah. It's like, what's the proof? It's like, it's like the elders said it. Yeah, yeah, I like it. I'm going to use that from now on. Wow, I didn't know you were into religion. It's crazy. And speaking of which, so how did they get you here? And now we got to go to one of the fan favorites. And I'm not saying this. I've got a lot of feedback on this. It was the show I wanted to do for myself, Show 55, Trappers Delight, where we visited the victim mindset.

2:13:35 How do you stop these mindsets from becoming mind traps? No one likes feeling trapped. Can you remember the last time you were trapped? The problem is we have these thoughts, and our thoughts, fortunately and unfortunately, can create feelings, feelings both in the here and the now. And it's not necessarily what happens to you, but it's the messages that you give yourself about what happens that determines your feelings. And not only do our thoughts create all of our feelings, but the thoughts that defeat us are almost always fraudulent or wrong or distorted or illogical. And sometimes they can form a cycle, a mentality that becomes a trap.

2:14:18 So how do you know? How do you know when a mindset has become a mind trap? There's an ancient Greek philosopher named Epictetus who said this: that we are disturbed not by things, but by the view in which we take of them. We think it's the circumstances that are depicted that are disturbing us, but no, it's our view of them that's actually disturbing us. Oh, yeah. I'm all in on that. It's perception, not reality. Yes. That's why you could have somebody that's 250 pounds, 6'9 has almost a billion dollars to say they're scared to go outside. Yeah. And many people believe it. Oh, man. Yeah. Sad. Yeah. No, I mean, think about that.

2:15:03 You have all the resources. You have the physical strength not to be harmed if you choose not to be. You have the resources to put protective measures around you and you sell or either you're selling or you're buying. I don't know which one at this point, but and who I'm speaking about is King James. But I told you, I told you they were going to be on his head. And the fact that he didn't come out and say he was going to publicly support the vaccine, that is part of the scrutiny he's receiving right now. Don't get it twisted. Do not get it twisted. And I'll say this.

2:15:46 The day after that, when he made that errant tweet, just put it lightly. He had to drop a pro COVID podcast episode. Oh, really? The first of its kind that was non-sport. Yeah. No, bro. I missed that. The More and the Athlete. Yeah, podcast. Yes. The pressure, I'm shocked. But they need that. But now we get to get, now we got to go into cult leaders. And Bob Woodson tried to warn us about cult leaders. First of all, you cannot generalize about the black community anymore. Any other people? We are not monolithic. We have difference in education, difference in income.

2:16:27 And when it's convenient, we generalize the black community and we use the demographics of those who are living in the most troubling situations. We use the demographics of incarceration, of low-income housing. We use that demographic information to make a case that all blacks are suffering. And then when the money arrives, it goes not to the people suffering the problem, but those who are providing service. For instance, in the last 50 years, the government has spent $22 trillion on programs to aid the poor.

2:17:07 70 cents of all those dollars go not to the poor, but those who serve poor people. They ask not which problems are solvable, which ones are fundable. Then you have black elected officials, many of them are veterans of the civil rights movement, who then came into political office. They were the ones who were dispensing those funds. And listen to this: two out of ten whites who with college degrees work for government, six out of ten blacks with college education works for government, which means that the vast amount of money that has been spent on the poor that has produced and reinforced. reinforced dependency have been administered by a lot of middle-class blacks.

2:17:55 Don't look at Baltimore. There's your cult leaders. Isn't that the missionary model? We go and collect resources on them saying of the lowest. Send money to Africa, send money to here and there, and the money never makes it to them. The only cult that does it with rich people, to my knowledge, is Scientology. Right. You're right. But most of the missionary model is set not taking shots. Any missionary, I'm just saying that's the model that we're collecting money on the behalf of the downtrodden. Right. And that's what's happened. Entered one, Miss Patrice Colors. So I want to pivot to the reason why you're here.

2:18:40 In the last few weeks, there have been stories that have become very prominent in the national media around you and particularly around issues of spending, issues of income. Specifically, there were two stories that came out that talked about you purchasing homes. You reportedly purchased four homes and we're looking even at another home. I believe in the Bahamas, there were conversations about how you spend money. And the stories also had a lot of innuendo about the source, the relationship between your money and your spending and questions around BLM Global Movement's finances. So the first thing I want to do is talk about what's true that has been said and what has been untrue.

2:19:22 Oh, good. I'm curious. I want to start. Thank you, Mark. I want to just start by saying something that's really important for people to hear. Okay. And that's I have never taken a salary from the Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation. And that's important because what the right-wing media is trying to say is the donations that people gave to Black Lives Matter went towards my spending. And that is categorically untrue and incredibly dangerous. Huh? That's an interesting framing. I'm not so sure that that's what people were thinking, honestly.

2:20:06 She said, I never took a salary. She was very specific. She said, I never, she didn't say I never took any money. Yeah, salary. Well done, Mo. She took Black Lives Matter stocks, ticker tape, ticker BLM. You know what I'm saying? That's what she took. Not a salary. And, you know, I didn't get rich off the donations. She's very careful how she, I mean, almost to the point of a politician. Not just almost. Totally. And then she starts out. Let me say this. Oh, thank you. Thank you, Mark. Very performative. Yeah, very performative. And this is very important. So this is what I want you to focus on. It's not really the truth.

2:20:51 Just a fudge. And this is how tone deaf they are, or she is, or maybe it's just a way of humiliating and demeaning her followers. She's on her YouTube channel doing hauls. Do you know what hauls are? Hauls? H-A-U-L-S? Hauls? Yes. Is a haul, is that related to a drag? No, what happens is when you go shop. Oh, sorry. That's when you go shopping. Yes, when you go shopping and get all these, you know, lavish things. Really not. Oh, Adidas. Yeah, Adidas sent me these shoes. Thank you, Beyonce. How did Adidas know your size?

2:21:36 Wow. And these are the kind of things I have to cover on the live because you have to see the visuals that go with it. On her YouTube channel. Thank you. Thank you, Beyonce, for sending me Adidas, whatever she comes to with. Yeah. Ever since that to demoralize or is that just well, she got the, she got that Netflix exposure coming up. She's got Hollywood kissing her ass. Yeah, it's perfect. That's how you do it. She's an influencer as well. Colors too. So you haven't taken a salary. So your income that you use to make whatever purchases you've made have come from outside income.

2:22:19 You've mentioned on your IG and other people have talked about speeches, studio deals, book deals for your book when they call you a terrorist. Your income has not come from working directly with BLM, GM. That's correct. Yeah. I'm a college professor, first of all. I also am a teacher. TV producer, and I have had two book deals. Uh, my first book that came out was a New York Times bestseller, uh, and uh, I also um have had a YouTube deal, and so so much of my all of my income comes directly from the work that I do.

2:22:59 But I also want to say something, uh, Mark, that feels really important. Um, organizers should get paid for the work that they do, they should get paid a living wage. Um, and the fact that the right-wing media is trying to um create hysteria around um my spending is uh frankly racist and sexist and um also i want to name that many of us who end up uh investing in homes in the black community often invest in homes to take care of their families so um homes uh that i bought directly support the people that i love and that i care about well

2:23:43 now let me just let me just think about this in mostly white communities i will say that of course you know where she's gonna go um fair point i mean it's it's a fair point for her just you know her money however she got it i don't know uh i i haven't no it's not it's not not for me i'm not for me no i have to say the reason why i'm saying this is you say you're marxist you say you're for the people you speak in the terms of living wage but you're buying four homes all across the globe and saying in these uh neighborhoods that you say that the oppressor lives in yeah but you don't mind being the the the neighbor of the oppressor and you know saying

2:24:30 going to the oppressor starbucks and take money from and we know how these book deals work come on i mean she's hypocritical for sure but uh what she said there was factually like all right spend your money whatever you want it on it's just it's it's she's a hypocrite and she comes across as a hypocrite and the whole movement seems hypocritic um and it's not discussed really at all this is and i don't even know where this was from but that probably was not some mainstream um chat she did no they tucked it away of course they tucked it away on this uh i mean you that's mark lamont hill and he's on a youtube channel news station i mean not

2:25:09 to knock it and i'm being because i'm really i'm really irk right now yeah she's not a friggin creative she's not a creative she makes nothing creative nothing we saw that bull crap stuff that she done and she has an ad now the electric slide against white supremacy is some crap it's like what no she's uh she's not she's a um a brand you know an icon a a figurehead she's a cult leader full stop it's what she is she's a cult leader we've seen it before we see it all the time and i mean it just irks me because they collect money on the behalf of people and the money never makes it up i see what you're saying okay yeah okay i got you she is david the david koresh of blm

2:25:54 or jim jim jones or jim jones is better yeah it just irks me and we know where your money really comes from 32. and i have a very very uh specific idea that we need to explore seriously which is that the anti-bernie sanders tinge of the black lives matter movement recently could be george soros funded astro turf and i will speak as specifically as possible lewis and then i will allow you lewis to tell me what you think about this uh it's widely on record that george soros the liberal billionaire has poured a ton of money into two movements that were instrumental in creating black lives matter and the buzzword dating back to january we

2:26:40 knew that george soros spent over 30 million dollars bankrolling ferguson demonstrators and of course ferguson relates to officer darren wilson who killed unarmed teenager michael brown and was ultimately not charged this includes support by george soros of groups like colorlines news for action uh organization for black struggle which established itself then established the hands-up coalition soros also gave money to the drug policy alliance which worked on pushing black lives matter as a buzzword which has since been incorporated into speech speeches by political figures including hillary

2:27:20 clinton oh man and that's david packman a liberal right how quickly we forget and what she wants to do and that's from show number seven more money more problems that shows you how long we've been saying this Show seven, we're at 30 or 62. Excuse me. We pointed out to point this out a long time ago. And the thing is, everybody has contempt for these mega preachers, mega church preachers, Joel Osteen, and the people of that nature. They're doing the exact same thing. It's the exact same. You're playing on people's emotions to collect money from them.

2:28:00 And you go on these foundations and these corporate companies to say, we can sell you. It was a thing that Catholic Church used to sell to sinners to say, you know what? We know you sinned, but you can buy your way into heaven. And that's what they say to these corporations. You know, we know, and I got to bring this up. It was another lady named Tamika, Tamika Mallory. She's got in with the Black Lives Matter ilk, and she's doing Cadillac commercials at the same time. GM had the case. Yeah, GM has a case going on where they had nooses hanging in their one of their facilities, and the people were called boys and saying all kinds of stuff.

2:28:41 So, how do you go and do that kind of thing? It just irks me because at the same time, a person like Neo can't say a black man sacrifices life for his children. He shouted down, but y'all sell that privilege to a Nancy Pelosi in the Democratic Party. That's bullcrap. Yeah, well, we need someone to be speaking. Well, whenever someone speaks up, they're you know, like Kanye, you know, called nuts, shoved back in the corner, shut up. Of course, yeah, that's the, that's the, that's, that's what the, that's what, that's what parts that irk me. But if you want to have a fair conversation, let's converse, let's have a conversation on the facts. But it's no,

2:29:22 it's, that's not how it works. And there, I'm going to say this: they're nothing but mega, but nothing but cult leaders. And they have a mega church called BLM. That's all it is. And then you have MT for you have all these different mega churches where there's global warming or whatever else. But even BLM has spin-off churches. They've got little subdivisions, just like the mega churches. Mega churches have to have churches in other counties as well. Franchises. They have franchises. Yep. Wow. And just to give you an example of a mega pastor, 33. I have sinned against you, my Lord. Okay. TV evangelists can be a little over the top.

2:30:06 Apple Dollars appeal for a private jet. They take the case. We are believing for 200,000 people to give contributions of 300 US dollars or more doing the math. That's $60 million. The head of the World Changers mega church in Atlanta asked for the donations in this almost six-minute video. Dub Project G650 as in Gulfstream 650. Dollars, already a high flyer. We're about to land in Nairobi, Kenya. But it seems his current jet built in 1984 is showing its age. Engine trouble on a flight to Australia. And more recently, when his wife and daughters were taking off from London, it went off the runway.

2:30:48 It's not like a car where you can pull over on the side when something goes wrong. And I knew it was time to begin to believe God for a new airplane. It didn't take long for the story of the Jesus jet, as some have dubbed it, to take off, and not in a good way. This woman is a former parishioner. She showed up Sunday to protest, but got told to leave church property. Crazy didn't have a jet when I was here. And now he has one and he's asking for another one. But parishioner Mary Jones, who takes the bus to church, says she'd happily give to Dollars Jet Drive. Most definitely, most definitely. We support all the pastor. That's what we're here for.

2:31:30 Oh, man. Now, a lady catching the bus trying to pay for a passive $65 million second jet. Well, hold on, hold on. It was the Jesus jet. I got to give it branding is great. Here's the thing, though. This is CNN covering this story. And this is what I'm talking about: about justice. If we're going to be just, then we need to come at her the same way we came at him because they're running the same scheme and you're victimizing the same people. You have a little black lady here riding the bus and giving money to a mega pastor. And the mainstream media is just now. Did they excoriate this guy? Did they make fun of him? Of course they did.

2:32:13 He's a black man. Come on. Adam, come on. Oh, my goodness. It's fantastic. Well, we don't have no Jesus jet, but we do love us some new money. I like brand new money. I just, I don't want any money around me. It's not. I'd almost rather have a new one than an old 20. That's kind of dumb, isn't it? But there's something about new money that excites you. Do you like $100 bills? Oh, man. I like old money, too. Oh, most beautiful thing on earth is a $100 bill. I haven't seen a woman as good looking as a $100 bill. There's something about $100 bill that excites you.

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2:40:20 But most importantly, come back next week or in two weeks for the next episode of MoFax with Adam Curry. Go to MoFax.com or directly to our donation page at mofundme.com. All right. Now we're here. Yay. Homestretch, everybody. You alluded to it earlier. Now we have to address the pink elephant in the room. And that's George Floyd's drug use, which this has been a very contentious point and very divisive point. And people seeing eye to eye on this on this situation. So, what I want to do is, since the media has done everything to dehumanize George Floyd from being caught of

2:41:05 everything under the sun, including the sacrifice, I want to give perspective from the addict's perspective. Very good. Because clearly, and I want to give this one, I want to keep, we got to keep it 100. Clearly, off the videos that we saw him in the store, he was under the influence of something. Oh, yeah. I can't say what it is. And then, I mean, of course, with the test as well, but that doesn't dehumanize a person. That doesn't make, but that, that thing, that I believe that gives people certain people when you have an addiction to treat you like human trash. And that's not cool. That's not cool at all because these are people. And if you ever have family members that struggle with addiction, you know they're struggling.

2:41:49 I think that got lost in this whole thing that, and I just want to give perspective. And to do that, there's a source called the Soft White Underbelly. And they go to Skid Row and they actually interview people off of Skid Row. I mean, they don't bring them in. They actually set up on Skid Row and interview them there. And in it, they have, they interviewed a heroin addict named Kevin. All right, Kevin. Kevin, where'd you grow up? Where are you from originally? I grew up in South. Los Angeles area in the neighborhood of Cripps, Raymond Cripps. Were you in gangsters as a kid?

2:42:29 I started gangbanging around the age of 12. 12. Then tell me about your family. You grew up with both your parents? Yes, I had both my parents in my life. I'm a middle child. How was your childhood? Actually, my childhood, actually, I grew up in a well-taken care of family, actually. Like I said, I'm a little child. We got an older brother and younger sister. You know, as a little child, you know, I felt neglected, which is probably not true. I just felt that way. You know, it took me towards

2:43:08 other routes than the body. Exactly, gangs. Tell me about your life after you joined the gang. What's going on there? Actually, let's take it back right before then. I actually was on the right path, you know, good grades. I made the honor roll. You know, one of the top students in my class. Until who you hang with is who you are. That's the model that's actually true. And, you know, I hung with certain kids in the neighborhood. And I got used to that, used to that lifestyle. And it took me to get to take a bullet

2:43:51 to understand that life is real. Gosh. So here we have a guy comes from a two-parent household, smart kid, but just caught up in the wrong crowd. And his life spours out of control. I guess we can go on to get the clip too. This was when I was 14. It was the first time I received a couple of them. You call this the tibia? Yeah. And it shattered the bone, actually. And the bone exposed to the air, which caused me to have what they call osteomolosis, which is a bone infection.

2:44:34 And osteo means bone molasses and infection. And during the time of my bone infection, I was prescribed Narco. And the first time I ever took a Narco, that first Narco, that first pill, I told myself, wow, I love this shit, and I'm addicted. I swear to God, I tell you, the first time I felt that when it kicked in, I felt that high. I said, this is a high like no other. And ever since then, man, I've been chasing that high. And, you know, it progresses from Narco to actually start liping it to Narco, from Narco to Pergo Sets, from Percocex to Oxycodon without the Tylenol inside the problem.

2:45:23 Oxycodon. Shit, straight dope. And what got me really on it was the street value of Oxycodon, 30 milligrams, and South Los Angeles. Street value was from $15 to $20 a pill. And that's, if you sing a lot of pill and wholesale price, you're $10, $12. But anyway, I was able to get my hands to get that pill for a dollar. Oh, man. Oh, yeah. That's Purdue Pharmacy. Pharmaceutical companies. Yeah, big pharma, Purdue Pharma, who paid a couple billion dollars in fines. You didn't hear about it. They were all found guilty. Felony murder rule.

2:46:09 Felony murder rule. I should have caught that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, of course. No, because if we go and find Hoffman's drug dealers, and there's this myth, a misconception that there's not an opioid problem in the black community, and there is. And you know what? This is another one of those things where the way the media frames it, oh, they're just wiping trash, yeah, middle America. Right, but then they also say where they're struggling with a problem. When it was crack, it was like they're animals, they're super predators. You see what I'm saying?

2:46:53 Of course I do. The way they frame that is it's not because of who's doing the drugs. It's because who is selling the drugs. The fact that they will have the perk walk doctors. And that ain't going to happen because doctor had lobbies. This is such an important connection you're making between the. give it to me again, what it's called: the felony murder rule, felony murder rule. That is such an important connection you're making here. That now, that's some white supremacy right there. Systemic racism when you don't have you haven't seen a doctor, you know, a rash of doctors pert walked.

2:47:36 Where are these people getting these? And you heard Kevin say himself, Narco to Percocet from Percocet total. Yeah, that's the past. And then he said it was in the streets, cheap, a dollar a pill. Yeah, and I want to show you another thing. The reason why I use pink elephant: pink elephant is a mix between fentanyl and heroin, which is eight times stronger than the regular heroin, which it takes four to five doses of Narcan to get you out to pull people back. Damn. And guess what? The Narcan prices have went from six a dose to $30 a dose. It's crazy, of course. Of course.

2:48:19 Wow. Don't you see here? They give you the cheap dope. They give you the cheap and the $1 a pill. It's the same pill. It's just, they're just selling it cheap on the street. Right. That's just where they're getting this abundance of pills from. Yeah, were they getting it from the pill mills, from the doctors who just buy that shit up? That's what people were convicted. I mean, paid a fine for. No one went to jail, but that's exactly what was happening. They were selling stuff really cheap through these pill mills, and then it just went into drug dealers. And they could charge whatever because the pills are almost free to manufacture. And then when the inventory dried up, the prices shoot up. Yeah.

2:49:03 Then you start, then shit starts happening. Then, then they have the addicts, for lack of a better word, they had to find cheaper resources. Yeah. Kevin 3. So you can imagine me able to get my hands on that pill for $1. You go crazy. You go nuts. So once I lost that value, that dollar value, I started experiencing withdrawals. And being sick, dope sick. I never thought that. I never thought I experienced it. I never thought I'd get to that point. I never thought that it'd happen. It happens.

2:49:45 And you'd rather fucking be dead, man. You'd rather be dead than feel that feeling, that dope feeling, man. So I felt that dope sick. I knew what opiates is, and I knew that Heron is an opiate. And I knew that this is actually also affordable. So by me knowing that I knew about Skid Row downtown Los Angeles. I decided to take a trip down here. And the first person I encountered, man, I asked, where the hair run.

2:50:24 First person I encountered, he had it. I took that dope, went home. I'm by myself. You know, with nobody. Nobody got me on this. I went to the house. And believe it or not, we got these Android phones. I went to YouTube. And I'm trying to see how the hell I'm going to do this drug. Oh, man. The cartel with YouTube instructional videos. How to. Now, if you say don't wear this or don't take this, they pull your videos down. But if you tell people how to shoot dope, yeah, go ahead. How to. It's in strikes, educational.

2:51:05 And what he's saying, he made that transition, not out of choice. I'm dope sick. Yeah. I need affordable, I need an affordable replacement for the high that this gateway drug. You know what I'm saying? That, you know, that he, I mean, he didn't start getting high because he wanted to because he got shot. And he started taking prescription medicine. Yeah, a lot of people. And it's just, it just progressed. Yeah. And I just want to put something else on other people's minds. I know I'm talking a lot, but I want to stress this. If you're about to be arrested and you're an addict and you know you're about to have six days of hell, you're going to flip out.

2:51:42 You might think about running. Yeah. It's like, I got to give it an honest try because I know the next six days in this cell is going to be hell. This is, Mo, congratulations. Yet again, putting a human face on George Floyd in this manner is spot on. And everyone should think about it. Because now the movie's replaying in my mind, not the nine minutes of the knee, all the stuff before it when he's. he's crying, and I don't want to go, and I can't go, and I can't get into the car, uh, knowing that he's super high, and he and he knows what he knows it's only going to go one direction for him with that feeling.

2:52:23 And this is a common occurrence when people know they're about to go to rehab or detox or wherever else. Yeah, they take all the drugs they have, and you can see that on the show. Uh, and I'm so only speaking, I don't never use hard drugs like that, so I'm only speaking from what I've seen. But you can see a show called Intervention once they know they're made the choice to go to rehab, then they binge out real bad. It's time to party, yeah, it's time to, you know, it's I'm going to jail. I might as well, you were saying, you know, have this one last ride, but that's human, yeah. I'm just, I have to say this stuff because this is why nobody got justice.

2:53:05 Because if you go and arrest drug dealers, if if he would have, if George Floyd would have been found innocent, would they went me on the chauvin would have been found innocent? Would they have found George Floyd's drug dealers? No, no, because he's a nobody in their eyes. But Hoffman, we got to go find you know why it's not because he's a celebrity, it's because he's a commodity to these big Hollywood uh studios, he's valuable. I'm sure he had insurance on him. This is this is me, man. I'm trying to say, but this is this is what we have to look at. Your point is very clear, it's really good, Mo. Very clear, Kevin Ford.

2:53:50 I was trying my hardest to stay away from that needle, man, but I didn't like those two options. And uh, I got a grandmother who's a diabetic, man. I already had needles in the house, they was already in the house. So, I got on YouTube. How in the hell do I bang this? How do I slam this? Bam, that first try, man. That shit shot that blood shot, shot up in the beef. It shot right up in that syringe, man. And here I go, squished it. 10 seconds, five seconds, 10 seconds. You had a rush. It's a rush, man, like no other. I swear to God to you, that rush

2:54:32 was 20, 100 times way more, way more powerful, way more better than that first North. I told you I took shit. I knew it was, I knew it was over. I fucked up. I knew I wasn't going back to pills that first time I banged it. I knew I was not going to take another pill again. But I thought to myself, I took so many pills, I thought I fucked up my kidneys. So I probably almost thought I was doing myself a favor. Wow, Mo. So I just did one YouTube search, how to shoot heroin right away. Three videos, one of which is published by CNN.

2:55:14 And another by the Provincial Health Services Authority preparing your drugs. This is all at Vancouver. Oh, it's just injecting speedball. Holy crap. Well, that makes nothing. And if you say anything out of line as far as medical, anything else medical. Well, there's something to be said for the amount of times we are confronted daily in the media with a hypodermic needle being plunged into somebody's body in relation to this. It's your, what's the term? Desensitizing.

2:56:00 Very much so. It's probably going to be a lot easier for a lot of people to shoot heroin now that they've, you know, we're so desensitized to the needle. Oh, we're getting there. Oh, we're getting there. And another thing I want to point out with Kevin said, he says, I would rather die than be dope sick. So that means he will rather kill than be dope sick. You see how that works? Yeah. I'm not saying him personally, but it's life or death. If you're suicidal, you could easily become homicidal. Two sides of the same coin, perhaps. Yes, because it's between me and that dope.

2:56:45 I got to have it. And I don't care who, mama, grandma, whoever else. And these, and that's the thing. Those are real people that get victimized by, you know, abuser of drugs. They're family members. Yeah. It's not, I mean, it's not the, you know, because it's like, well, I know they won't call the cops on me. It's crazy. And then you have this guy, another cult leader, Dr. Carl Hart, come out and say, well, you know, shooting heroin ain't all that bad. People are, they have this idea of someone who uses heroin is some poor soul who is injecting the drug and is a slave to the drug. And they think that heroin is the reason for that person's problem because that person definitely exists.

2:57:30 But the person's problem is not so much heroin as everything else. Like the person might have co-occurring psychiatric illnesses. I always have people say, well, I'm chasing that high I got the first time that I use it. But that's a real, is that a real thing? Because I've heard so many people say that on documentaries. Yeah, I know, because we are willing to accept that, right? No, it's certainly true. Like, just think of the first time you enjoyed an orgasm. It's like, it was amazing. For me, the first time, it's like, am I chasing the first time I had an orgasm? No, of course not. But although I do that feeling, I like that. An orgasm can't kill me. Well, orgasm can't kill you. You certainly can. What do you guys think? Sto with you?

2:58:14 I mean, I understand. And he was stressing that he was not telling people to use drugs. He was saying for people that do use drugs, they're going to do it anyway, just like a lot of people do things you know you shouldn't do, but it does still happen. So how do you make it safer for people to do it? They didn't make me want to try drugs or want to use heroin or anything like that. Him saying that he used drugs and he wasn't addicted makes it kind of seem like it's okay. In what he said, I'm from a different school. I know there's some parents out there that be like, hey, my kids are going to drink anyway. I'd rather them drink in the house. I'm not that parent. My parents weren't that parent. My parents were, no, you're not drinking and you're not drinking in my house. And if I catch you drinking, I'm going to bust your ass. Agreed. Yeah. Yes. But it's very dangerous. He's a doctor.

2:58:57 I don't think he's a medical doctor, but he's maybe a professor or have a PhD. But he's a doctor. So, you know, heroin's not all that bad. You know that myth of exactly what Kevin said, there's an actual Skid Row addict that actually has an ulcer on his side of the size of a football on his arm, an open wound that he shoots dope into. Oh, no, he doesn't know what he's talking about. But again, going back to Kevin in the beginning, that he was a great student. And just by, well, he got shot. That could be my son. Two-parent home, good kids, smart. Just get caught up with the wrong people, get shot, and in your life because you were given

2:59:40 pharmaceutical drugs without the appropriate, I guess, I don't know, education. And it's not like the medical industry didn't know hero was addictive. We went through this in the 20s and the 70s. You know what I'm saying? It's like not like we didn't experience this before. And then she's coming around to say, oh, you know, that heroin, that might work. You went to school for 10 years. You can't figure out giving people heroin might have a problem. Yeah. Oh, man. It just, it hurts me because you have these smart people come along. Well, you know, heroin's not all that bad. I shoot up. Well, I shoot up every once in a while. It's interesting to see that the common denominator of

3:00:21 issues in the United States, but I would wager it's global. We have, and it's part of the homelessness problem as well. So we have a real drug problem in the United States, heroin. And one way or the other, I think the introduction is probably most often pharmaceutical. We have Black Lives Matter being sparked off. The protests in Minneapolis with a heroin addict. And we have the coronavirus lockdowns, another biosecurity state pharmaceutical move.

3:01:05 It's all pharma, man. It's like no matter where you turn. Why is it not being discussed? Well, because they're advertising on TV. So there's no message. And just because they're advertising on TV doesn't just mean that there's no message against them. It means they're controlling the message. Well, and to further your point, now Baltimore wants to stop prosecuting drug possession. Oh, boy. Hold on, so did you skip 40? Are you skipping 40? No, excuse me. I don't.

3:01:46 That was 40. Excuse me. That is 40. I'm sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on a second. You still got time now, Mo? Yeah, I'm good. Okay. I am therefore announcing that our co- COVID policies will now become permanent and America's failed war on drugs on drug users and the city of Baltimore is over. A change in handling crime, the shift following a year-long study involving the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, looking at policies put in place to stop the spread of coronavirus and how those policies impacted crime.

3:02:23 These are Baltimore City State's Attorney Marilyn Mosby's first public statements since a lien for non-payment of back taxes was placed on the home she shares with her husband, City Council President Nick Mosby, and a federal probe into the couple's campaign records. So I'm not going to discuss that matter. I would refer you to my attorney. Mosby says she is working with police and other community partners. When it comes to those violent offenses, carjackings, murders, armed robberies, attempted murders, and drug distribution, we are still prosecuting you. The police will still arrest you. But on these low-level offenses, we are no longer utilizing our limited resources on these low-level offenses.

3:03:05 She says prostitution, public urination, and other minor crimes will be handled as public health issues and turned over to the community partners that she's working with to find solutions. Crime is a symptom of the disease of our society. For years, we have asked the police to address this disease by locking people up. We merely address the symptom, not the disease. Today, we have a prosecutor who has demonstrated a concern for equity, a concern for justice, and a concern for public safety. And this is the exact same words I was Tina and I were just reading it this morning in Austin, Texas, which we're going to move outside of.

3:03:51 The same thing moving the police services, even the management of 911 over away from the police department to the community partners. To community partners. Exactly. Which is private industry. Yeah, of course. And there's zero evidence that this works. Or in fact, the evidence is contrary. It just shows it's a horrible idea. And it's fascinating in his clips. He says, the lockdowns will stay, but drug use will be opened up. Coming from John Hopkins. You got to love it, right? That's the way to talk. Yeah, of course. All in wild while she's dealing with legal issues of her own.

3:04:36 And if it's Baltimore resident, it kind of points out in this short clippy. It makes me wonder if there's some other motive behind the actual announcement. In other words, is it because we're trying to give the community a break, or trying to give certain people of the community a break? Or is there some other political reason why the prosecutors don't want to continue prosecuting? So that's my main concern. In other words, it's not that they don't want to, it's a bigger picture that they want to try to solidify their position in politics by making it appear that these things are no longer important.

3:05:15 Yeah. But we should have saw this coming because this was predictive programming in the show called The Wire. Okay. You know, I've never, I think I've watched one episode. I've never, I know all about it. Claire Danes, right? Yes. I've never watched it. Totally understand the concept. People keep telling me I'm crazy. I don't watch it. I would love it. And I know. Best TVA show ever. I know. Best TV show ever. I got to put it on my list. I'm crazy. And just to show their predictive programming, the birth of Hamsterdam. As of this tour, all hand-to-hand undercover buys of CDS are suspended in the Western District.

3:06:00 Somewhere back in the dawn of time, this district had itself a civic dilemma of epic proportion. The city council had just passed a law that forbid alcoholic consumption in public places, on the streets, and on the corners. But the corner is, and it was, and it always will be, the poor man's lounge. This is where a man wants to be on a hot summer's night. It's cheaper than a bar. Catch a nice breeze. You watch girls go by. But

3:06:39 the law is a law. The Western cops rolling by. What were they going to do? They arrested every dude out there for tipping back a high life. There'd be no other time for any other kind of police work. And if they look the other way, they'd open themselves to all kinds of flaunting, all kinds of disrespect. This is before my time when it happened, but somewhere back in the 50s or 60s, there was a small moment of goddamn genius by some nameless smokehound who comes out to Cut Great one day.

3:07:21 And on his way to the corner, he slips that just-bought pint of elderberry into a paper bag. A great moment of civic compromise. That small wrinkle-ass paper bag allowed the corner boys to have their drink in peace, and it gave us permission to go and do police work. The kind of police work that's actually worth the effort that's worth actually taking a bullet for.

3:08:02 So, in this show, in the show, this police officer named a veteran police officer named Bunny. And what he does is he convinces all the drug dealers to move their trade down to these abandoned, oh, so-called abandoned blocks where people still live there, but it's like out of sight, out of mind, because he was tasked with getting the arrests down, the percentages down. So, he's like, move it over, you know what I'm saying? Go down there. But he ends up creating an environment called Hampshire Dam, which looks like Skid Row. And he brings a pastor down there called Deacon. And this is what Deacon sees. What in God's name did you do this?

3:08:43 Look, I'm just trying to make my district livable. I write off a few blocks in a few places, but I saved the rest. No offense, but you like the blind man and elephant. It's a lot bigger than what you got your hand on. You just can't see it. See what? A great village of pain, and you're the mayor. Where's your drinking water? Where's your toilets? Your heat, your electricity. Where's the needle truck? The condom distribution. The drug treatment intake. Half these people are down on their feet, and the other half's going to catch what's killing them. Look, they ain't no worse off than when he was all over the map. Now they're just in one place, it's all. And that place is hell.

3:09:26 And what he say, we sacrificed a couple of blocks. And this is what is going to be extrapolated out to we'll sacrifice the black neighborhood. Yeah. Because if you're not bothering the drug users, they're going to stay there. Because the last thing they want to do is get arrested. They're like, okay, we know these are safe zones. Yeah, that's basically the east side of Austin. Yeah, and this, guess what? This show was filmed in Baltimore. Yeah, I know. Almost 20 years ago. And now all of a sudden, they're the epicenter of legalizing drugs. And you want to tell me this was a coincidence? No. No, I can't tell you that. And this is what happens when his bosses find out.

3:10:11 Where is the West Baltimore drug trade? I hope, Major, these are not staged photographs you're showing us. No, sir. They're not. No, Deputy. I found another approach. I'm all ears, bunny. I moved them off the corners. God damn it. Don't be coy with me, Major. I can see that. What I want to know is how the fuck you managed to move them and where the fuck they are now. Deputy, I don't know quite how to put this, but we, I mean, I began by identifying those areas of my district where drug trafficking was least harmful and proceeded to push all street-level dealing towards those areas.

3:10:55 And at first, dealing with the juveniles on them corners, I had little success. But ultimately, by rounding up all the mid-level dealers in my district and making them offer they couldn't refuse, I was able to. You made them an offer? Yes, sir. Either they moved their people to one of three designated areas where drug enforcement was not a district priority, or they faced the wrath of every able-bodied soul in my district. Major, I don't understand. The only time we can hold a drug corner is when we assign offices to stand there. Your slides don't suggest any conservative deployment on any corners. How were you able to do it?

3:11:37 He just trust you, Nick. Don't you see what he's done? He's legalized drugs. Actually, I elected to ignore them. He lost your fucking mind. He's lost his fucking mind. mind. You in my office. Now. Oh, so that's 20 years ago. And today we basically have the south side of Chicago. Very small area where all the crime is taking place. Yes. Wow. You waited 62 episodes to explain that to me? Timing. Time. My man E-Class was saying.

3:12:19 All right. Thank you. You know, one of the biggest proponents. No, that's not South South Chicago. That's Baltimore. No, I know. But it's the same thing. It's the same thing. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But that's what you do in a war, right? Or, I mean, it seems appear. You surrender a couple of fronts. You know, but this is my point: in Baltimore, in Chicago, soon, coming soon in Austin, in New York City, it's all a very small area. It's all a small group of actors, and that's the black-on-black crime that is reported as a weekend statistic, but never really reported on because that's exactly what it is.

3:13:00 They think it's going to be a drug utopia. Drug beefs are going to lead to murder, more murder. Right. A lot of times people get clean by going to jail. Yeah. I mean, because they just have to be forced to get off of it. And I'm not saying, I'm not advocating that. If you can get them into rehab, that's fine. It also makes it really easy for the new users who are coming off of the pharmaceuticals to find where, as we heard from Kevin, to find where all the crap is going down, where you can buy it. Where'd he say? I went right to Skid Row and the first person I bumped into. Exactly. Oh, my God. Again, 62 episodes. Okay. Spoiler. You know, one of the biggest proponents of drug, what they call decriminalizing drugs, Benita Gupta.

3:13:47 You ever heard of her? Yeah, I have actually. What is I think she's trying to be trying to be appointed to the, I think, deputy. What's the highest position in the department of state department? It was already unlinked, was it? Well, that would be secretary of state. Yeah, but the deputy. She's trying to be the deputy secretary of state. Yeah, that's a big deal. That's what Victoria Newland was for Hillary Clinton. So, yeah, I'll show you in the show notes. Well, what she's trying to do is she's trying to be confirmed. Well, as she's trying to be confirmed, this GOP senator brings up very interesting facts about her.

3:14:28 Miss Gupta is the daughter of a gentleman who heads up a chemical company, produces all sorts of chemicals for a variety of legitimate purposes. And it looks like from her financial disclosure statement, he's been very successful, and so has Miss Gupta in Family Trust, worth tens of millions of dollars. Oh, yeah, I know. Much of it, including the stock of Aventor, the company that her father heads. Well, I realize Miss Gupta is not personally responsible as a shareholder in this company, but it is clear, I believe, from an investigative journalism story by Bloomberg dated September 2020, that Aventor

3:15:18 was selling acetic anhydride, an essential ingredient, and converting poppies to heroin. Holy shit. For at least the last decade. She owns tens of millions of dollars worth of that stock. I've asked the Attorney General and the Security and Exchange Commission to look into Aventor's conduct because if in fact an American chemical manufacturer has been selling acetic anhydride in the country where they know that it will be available to the criminal cartels and drug runners, and they should know that 92% of the heroin made in Mexico using acetic anhydride manufactured by Aventor and its subsidiary in Mexico, that's a serious, serious

3:16:07 problem. Okay, now this gets even better. It's coming back to me now. She was confirmed as Associate Attorney General. And I did not know this at all about her family and her background. First of all, you look at this woman. She looks like she looks like the angel of death, man. I'll put a picture in the show notes to say. But to hear all this, I mean, this is, you know, what's tied into this? The reason we're never going to leave Afghanistan, where all the poppies are. Of course, this is a huge, huge push and take.

3:16:44 takeover that the pharmaceutical industry is shooting us up left and right and if we won't do it ourselves they'll force us to do it you know what all the people all the people that the democrats supposed to support the migrants why are they fleeing because they're being forced to work for the cartels to grow the poppy That her dad's company allegedly sells the main ingredient to cut heroin or to manufacture a heroin. Yeah man, this is great What a super clip too.

3:17:23 Let's continue on with 46 in May 2019 a small counter narcotics unit was rolling down a country road in a rural part of Sinaloa which was the center of the global drug empire created by Ochapo Gooseman They were overcome by a pretty powerful smell they were literally stopped in their tracks and it's one of the things that people on these counter narcotic squads are looking out for smelling out for in this case so they got out of their vehicles and through a clearing of trees they found five cauldrons that were being used to produce heroin and they also found four jugs of a chemical called acetic anhydride that was made by a major multi-billion dollar American company and the product

3:18:14 brand was JT Baker and that chemical is the only thing other than the sap from opium flowers that you need to manufacture heroin and under international drug laws it's one of the most highly controlled of these chemicals sold anywhere in the world except Mexico the great tragedy for me in investigating this was the idea that any American company could be involved in that even if it's unknowing it really made us feel like we had to do everything we could to expose this situation and make it public

3:18:56 where was that from that was from a special I think I think that was that Bloomberg report that they were speaking of I'll get you the whole it's a whole like 17 minute yeah yeah show and I'm gonna this is not a drug addict show or drug abuse show but I was wanting to show you okay if we're talking about the felony murder rule I want her daddy hauled in and her and her and her Rico cases on all of them this is a cartel and we saw this before with the Clintons coming out of MENA

3:19:33 when I said the boys are back in town the boys are back in town yeah but they're rocking the the horse this time instead of the instead of skiing the powder right well oh hold on wait the show's not wait but wait there's more so kevin poor kevin yeah had cleaned himself up and i'm gonna show you the power of people when he did that episode uh uh that we pulled the first clips from the support he got in the comments led him to clean himself up and get drug free that's how people work we talk about karma or whatever you want to call it yeah that's the power people have when people support people

3:20:13 he's my cousin my first cousin but we grew up same household we called each other brothers and um his name is renzo all and you know that's my world that's my that's my heart um that's something i i i i i ain't never i ain't never endured that that pain i still want through this pain i don't think it ever healed this that this pain this loss that i took in i i i i wish i wish it upon an old one but i know we all have to go through it and i know that some people have worser

3:20:52 worse or tragics than me but this is my tragic and i handled it the wrong way i self-medicated again on a drug that is um opiate they called it fentanyl um right back it's a recent thing i've been smoking it it's a very dangerous drug and i i know that i'm i shouldn't around with this so um that's why i'm here today to let you guys know that i kind of up a little bit and i need y'all help your support

3:21:36 and um why is early I'm in the early stages of it. I get the hell off of that shit, too. I'll kick hero on ass. I kicked his ass, too. Fentanyl is more dangerous than heroin. Yes, it is. Brought to you by China. 48. By now, you may know a family shattered by the opioid epidemic. In 2017, there were 47,000 opioid deaths. That's more Americans than were killed in vehicle accidents or by firearms. One drug, fentanyl, is like rocket fuel in the sharp rise of this crisis.

3:22:14 Fentanyl is a painkiller invented in the 1960s and used to relieve the agony of advanced cancer. It is 50 times more potent than heroin. But today, fentanyl can be ordered on the internet by drug dealers and addicts for an online overdose. The Target said that he can get any drugs he could ever imagine over the internet from China. Cronin's investigators went online and discovered overseas labs offering most any illegal drug. And we just said, hey, according to the source's instructions, we're interested in buying fentanyl.

3:22:54 And the result was, say the least, surprising. We have dozens, probably over 50 different drug trafficking networks reaching out to us saying, we have fentanyl. We have even more powerful fentanyl analogs. Whatever you want. We'll get it for you for cheap. We'll get it for you in bulk. You got 50 replies. At least. And all of these came from where? It was universally China. The even cheaper dope. Now I'm even, now I'm depressed. The even cheaper dope. So it's the pharmaceutical, the heroin, and when you can't get heroin or people stepping on it with what I call said pink elephant.

3:23:36 Yep. They go to the fentanyl. And guess who's the, who's in bed with China, Mexico, and the pharmaceutical company? You tell me I'm supposed to be worried about the police. And you think I'm supposed to be. Now, my number one concern is the police. And I'm going to say this, and you're saying, and we can wrap on this. Here's the thing. I don't care which side the argument you are on this case, you didn't get justice, period. And that should bother you, like it bothers me. Because if you thought you think you, if you think it was murder one, and it should be four on trial for murder one by the law of the land, not by my opinion.

3:24:21 You can't pick and choose when you want to apply laws. That's the problem. And if you want to say he was not killed by that police officer and drugs killed him, I need to see a perk walker, Gupta, her father, and all the fentanyl supplies from China. If you got a Batman, zipline them in and pull them out, I don't care. Because if you really care, but you know what? And I say this to the end. This world don't care about really nobody, but specifically black men, unless we have something to offer. George Floyd had his life to offer. There was another person popular that struggled with addiction named DMX who lost his life.

3:25:03 It's the same thing. Now, one half is saying it was drugs. He had a relapse. Another half is saying he took the vaccine. We need justice for him as well. Oh, Mo. This is probably one of the most impactful episodes we've done. You really got to some core here, and it's so multifaceted. It is. It is right in front of our face. It's right in front of our face, but we are being manipulated by the media, which won't tell us the whole story. Well, you definitely helped get a lot of the story out on this episode. And I appreciate it. I know everyone else who's listening appreciates it. The producers appreciate it.

3:25:48 If you want to support this work, please go to mofax.com. It is important. I mean, I personally get so much value from this just learning and thinking and stuff that I completely know. And intellectually, it's like, oh my God, like you get so, I mean, even I get fuzzy. I get clouded over. I get distracted. This was a really good reset. In fact, it is the great reset by MoFax. Thank you, Mo. Just thank you again. It was fantastic. I can't wait for the next episode. I have to say it wasn't enjoyable making this because I had to deal with the programming myself. I got angry at sometimes. I mean, I'm not immune, but luckily, I know I seek first to understand it, then to be understood.

3:26:34 And as I always say, pay attention to everything, and the truth will reveal itself. Ladies and gentlemen, fellow Americans, lady Americans, this is James Brown. I want to talk to you about one of our most deadly killers in the country today. I had a dream the other night, and I was sitting in my living room and throws off to sleep. So I started dreaming. I dream I walked in a place and I saw a real strange, weird object standing up talking to the people. And I found out it was Herr. That deadly drug that goes in your vein. He said,

3:27:19 I came to this country without a passport. Ever since then, I've been hunting and sought. My little white grains are nothing but waste, soft and deadly and bitter to taste. But I'm a world of power, and all know it's true. Use me once, and you'll know it too. I can make a mere schoolboy forget his books. I can make a world-famous beauty neglect her looks. I can make a good man forsake his wife, send a greedy man to prison for the rest of his life.

3:27:58 I can make a man forsake his country and flag. Make a girl sell her body for a $5 bag. Some think my adventures are joy and a thriller, but I'll put a gun in your hand and make you a killer. And sell up and bags, I found my way to heads of state, to children at play. I finance in China, ran in Japan. I'm respected in Turkey, and I'm legal in Siam. I take my addicts and make them steal, borrow, beg. Then they search for a vane and the arm of the leg. So be you Italian, Jewish, black, or mixed, I can make the most virile of men forget their sex.

3:28:44 So now, so now, my man, you must do your best to keep up your habit until you arrest. Now the police have taken you from under my wing. Do you think they dare to find me, I who am king? Now, you must lie in that county jail where I can't get to you by visit or mail. So squirrel with this conference. Wiggle and cough. Six days of madness and you might throw me off. Curse me in name, defy me in speech.

3:29:25 But you'd pick me up right now if I were in your reach. All through your center, you become resolved to your fate. Fear not, young man or woman, I'll be waiting at the gate. And don't be afraid, don't run. I'll not chase. Sure, my name is Herwin, and you'll be back for a taste. Behold, you're hooked. Your foot is in the stirrup. And make haste, mount the steed, and ride him well. For the white horse of herwin will ride you to hell.

3:30:03 To hell. Will ride you to hell until you are dead. Dead, brother. Dead. This is a revolution of the mind. Get your mind together and get away from drugs. That's that.