56: Fishing Polls

00:15 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for January 4th, 2021. It's episode number 56. Okay. Now, now I've kicked off the new year. Thank you, Kanye. And hello, Mo Fax. How you doing, sir? I'm good, Mo. How you doing, man? Happy New Year. I am blessed. I made it out of 2020 alive, so I have no complaints. Yes, you did. And here we go. It's our New Year's Horns, the third podcast I've played them on this week. Oh, man. I know you got a real busy season from Halloween through Thanksgiving through Christmas.

00:57 And I know, I didn't give birthdays and all kinds of celebrations straight through for like the whole fourth quarter. Man, I had birthdays, mama's birthday, brother's birthdays, daddy's birthdays, my birthdays. Jesus' birthdays. That's right. Can't forget. Yeah. Oh, that's nice, man. You had a great New Year's Eve. Where'd you celebrate at home? Yes. Man, I got so much to fill you in on. Christmas. First Christmas in the new house. Oh, right. White Christmas. Ah, I was going to add perfect. Perfect. And you take pictures and you got Rocco frolicking in the snow. I see it.

01:42 It was beautiful. Kids didn't wake up too early. And as soon as they woke up, it started snowing. I mean, you couldn't, it was something out of like a Hallmark picture. Oh, I'm so happy for you. That's perfect. Especially in the new house. Outstanding. And what did you get? Socks? Aftershave? Cashmere socks for my daughter. Nice. Very nice. Peter, nice and toasty. And the bills. I got the receipts. It was that. Socks and receipts. Wait, I got to write that down. Socks and receipts just might be a show title.

02:22 I don't know, man. I kind of like it. Yeah. Well, it's been a little, it's been crazy, of course. I don't want to be rude. How was your Christmas? No, my Christmas was great. Thank you. It was Tina and myself, and we had her daughter, my stepdaughter over. It was real nice. Everyone else says, you know, Christina's social distance in the Netherlands and her other daughter's, or locked down, I should say, is semi-locked down in Chicago. So thank goodness we, you know, Austin's not quite so stringent. It was nice. I got a cashmere sweater. My greatest present, which my lovely wife gave me, is one of these things that you'd never think of. Because, of course, I don't really need anything. So it's crappy to shop for me. So

03:08 Cashmere sweater wins. That always wins. Any sweater wins. A motorized professional knife sharpener. Wow. That sounds cool. Now I want one. And that's serious business. It has a drive belt with the sandpaper on it and sharpening stones right and left. And you can do scissors. And I've already cut up my hands pretty good. These knives are so sharp now. It's just like, oh, oops. Normally just kind of bounces off my nail there. No, no. Ooh, sliced into my nail. So, yeah, but it was just good. And, you know, we're kind of in this weird situation where there's lots of rumblings everywhere and we're not quite sure what's going on.

03:51 Are we going to have a 45 Savage final fourth act crescendo, which I am still expecting? But you don't know. You just don't know. There's so much taking place. And that's just the stuff that we're paying attention to. Forget about the asteroids. Don't pay any attention to that. Lots of other things going on, but that's, you know, as usual, I'm looking around. I'm sure everybody's wondering about the long break. So I'll explain more as we get into the clips. I have a bit of not explanation, but just explaining. I like to explain what was going on.

04:34 But the clips will lend to that. But I guess we can get right into the bag. Yeah, well, hold on. I'm going to roll this up. Let's see what's going on. Mo brought the bag. It's the wheel of topics and flies around. Where it stops, nobody knows. Mo, of course, does, because he's expertly prepared this journey for us. Today's topic on episode 56 is. It's a potluck. Yay! It's a potluck. Potluck. I love how you change the you change the title of the clip.

05:20 So all I see is Steven Universe Grandma. So I don't know what the, I don't know what the show topic is. Okay. Potluck. I got it. I got it. So nice. So it's good to end the year or begin the year on a potluck because we had a lot of clips and a lot of topics that we weren't able to get to in 2020. Right. And the last show, which was one of my personal favorites because I did a birthday show for myself on the Gucci Man and uh Jeezy versus Man, got a lot of cool feedback on that show. People really like that. So in the spirit of that, we're going to do our own versus.

06:00 We got a. Okay, all right, all right. So we got it. We got three matchups. And the reason why I'm doing this is I'm going to show how it's not versus in the sense of comparing the two people and their talents or whatever. And in that sense, it's more of how the media plays two black men off of each other for their narrative. Right. And we got a triple header here. So I guess round one. It's a pressure cooker, everybody. Yeah. Wait a minute. We got round one coming up. So on round one, we got Iron Mike Tyson versus Bootsy Badass.

06:43 Number two. But anyway, moving on, another celebrity loser. The world is raving. I don't know if y'all heard about it, but it's been reported y'all that NBA star Dwayne Wade's 12-year-old son is transitioning y'all from male to female. Now they're saying that the 12-year-old boy, whose name is Zion Edward, now goes by the name of Zaya. Now they're saying Dwayne spoke candidly in an interview with Ellen the Generals, which you know we all love Ellen the Generals. We're just going to air later today. They're saying in the interview, he discusses y'all being a father to Zaya, formerly known as Zion. They're saying the NBA baller revealed to Ellen that he reached out to the cast of pose for help, which addresses to help address the situation. Man, culture is sad, isn't it, Mo? It's sad when I hear this stuff, man.

07:27 Yeah, so we have the, but it's great because it gives us some real insight. Launching point. Yeah, to get into some real insight. So that was Gary with the T on the Ricky Smiley Morning Show. And that was from Potluck Show 26. And this was the genesis of the Mike Tyson versus Bootsy Badass or Bootsy, formerly known as Little Bootsy. Their interaction. So you had Zaya Wade come out and as I Wade didn't really come on out. Their parents kind of threw Zaya Wade out, is the way I saw it.

08:09 That's how it was taken by a lot of people because we discussed this. And this is not a rehash of that story. But what I need to do is lay it out there. And as you heard, the world is raving. And to lend to your point, they got in touch with the cast of pose. Oh, right. Ellen, it's like if you're trying to get your child the best help, you would think you would go to professionals, not celebrities. But a lot of people think Gabrielle Union is actually doing the handling in this situation. So I don't want to die. I mean, I don't want to go down that rabbit hole too far. But this number three is a reaction from Bootsy Badass

08:52 on this subject. I got to say something about this shit, bro. Dwayne Wade, you're going too far, dog. That is a male. A 12-year-old. At 12, they don't even know. They don't even know what their next meal is going to be. They don't have figured out yet. He might meet a woman, anything, at 16 and fall in love with her. But it's be gone. How you gonna like, bro? That's you going too far, dog. Don't cut his off, bro. Like, bro, for real. If he's gonna be gay, let him be gay. But don't cut his off, bro. Man. Like, don't address him as a woman, dog.

09:32 He's 12 years old. He don't, he's not, he's not up there yet. He hasn't made his final decisions yet. Don't cut his off, Dwayne Wade, bro. You tripping, dog. You tripping, dog. So, I totally forgot. We might need to play the warrant. warning if you have it. Hold on a second. I'm so sorry. Some viewers may find the following disturbing. Viewer discretion is advised. Ooh, I love hearing that. Okay, let's go. So, I just wanted to warn the people out there. You might have some adult. Of course, if we cover this kind of information, it's pertinent to the story. It's not out of just being vile.

10:17 So, back to Bootsy and Mike Tyson. So, you heard Bootsy's reaction, and his reaction was more age issue and the emasculation of a male. It wasn't like a hatred towards LGBT. He even said it himself: he's 18, he wouldn't really care, you know, that kind of thing. And I think that was everybody's kind of approach. But of course, the liberal media went and dug up into Bootsy's past. And Bootsy had a problem. And this is from the New York Post. Rapper Bootsy, badass, claims he paid sex, paid for sex.

10:55 He paid for sex for his 14-year-old son. All right. So in that article, he's quoted on Instagram or one of those social media sites. He says, Yeah, hell yeah. I got my effing son bleep act performed on it. So they use that against him. And it's like, oh, you know, I mean, so how can you talk about kids? And, you know, this kind of thing. So I'm torn about this because Bootsy ain't the best example for a parent. I'm just going to say that now. But when I heard this, I'm going to go off on a little tangent here. It reminded me of this show called Billions, right? And I don't know if you watch Billions or not.

11:40 Yes. Did you watch that? Yes, I've watched it religiously, and I think I know exactly what you're referring to. All right. So Chuck Sr. and Chuck Chuck Jr., I mean, that's his son. He plays the role of, I think, the district attorney or something for the New York State. No, for the Southern District of New York. Southern, that's it. That's it. So anyway, what's important to the story is his father, who was a very domineering parent, helicopter parent, if you want to call it, I mean, to the extreme, actually paid for him to have sex when he was 14. So this is not cultural. But it's not even cultural. It's not even something that's weird for the times.

12:22 This used to be very common back in the 50s. Right. So I just want to show, I only went on that small tangent to show how far we've come that something that used to be acceptable as having your son, you know, paying for sex for your son at a young age, I guess the masculinity or something. But let's put it this way. If there's all these things you can do and you can advise your child and coach your child and push your child or accept your child, all of these things that are completely okay, which even I find to some degree, certainly at young age, really borderline

13:05 unacceptable. Why is this not acceptable? That's my point. And why is the New York Post saying that's unacceptable? But when somebody comes out and says whatever their child is doing, you know, transitioning or whatever, if people say, I have an issue with the age, it should be taken the same way. I'm just showing the disparity and acceptance in these two events and how he was used. It was used as a tool against Bootsy. I just wanted to cover that. I mean, just as going into the next clip. So we had

13:42 Ricky Smiley because that's what the Gary with the T was covering on. And Ricky had an issue with his ages as well. And clip four. Yeah. Everybody's cares. It's just a difficult opinion because, you know, okay, I'm dying. Yep, you too. Yep, so just let it go. But anyway, here's about the suck. Now they got the baby up here. They take a founder pitching. The baby up here, 12 years old with a acrylic nails. The acrylic nails and a halter top shirt on. Now,

14:20 be what you want to be. But the question is: if that boy was a real little girl, is it appropriate? Because my 12-year-old daughter wouldn't have on no halter top and no acrylic nails. My 12-year-old girl. Right. Because they got plenty of time for that. They got the rest of their life to do that. Now, why you got to march that out in front of everybody? And that's still a child. This is me. Now, you can get mad at me and the LGBT community can attack me. me or whatever, and say whatever they want to say. But I'm just talking about just as a parent, you got to use a certain amount of discretion, and it almost feels like exploitation to a child's sexuality.

15:04 Yeah, I'm actually interested. I only play and uh, I can't remember if we talked about this on when this came up the first time, but it is what is there an equal percentage of black kids transitioning versus white kids? Do you know any idea about those stats or just a feeling for them? I haven't every I haven't looked into those stats, but I can't say this as anecdotal. I don't remember any child of any other race being pushed to this level. No, no, any other child of a celebrity, period. Give me another example. I can't think of one offhand.

15:48 I mean, we hear about Angelina Jolie and her kids or whatever. I'm just like I'm saying, I mean, you hear it, but you don't hear him being thrusted as a LGBT celebrity. And that's not the point of this. That's not the point of it. I'm only playing these black background clips so we can hear. I know it just, I don't know. It never stops to fascinate me. I'm sorry. Right. No, no, I'm just saying because I want to make people think we're rehashing that story, but it's important to the verses. Yep. So we have Ricky Smiley, who is very, I would assume, liberal politically, no, politically liberal.

16:27 Even he has an issue with the age. And he's like, and he made a valid point that saying, even my 12-year-old daughter wouldn't dress in the manner that Zaya is dressing. So I'm just laying that out. And you might say, okay, well, that's misogynistic, right? I want to point one other thing out before I move on. Notice Ricky was at a loss of words. He couldn't even get started on it. He was afraid. Like, exactly. So that tells you, for somebody that pretty much makes a joke about everything because he's a comedian, when he took on this, he had to walk his word, choose his words very carefully. And if you notice in the clip, Gary tells him, just let it go.

17:12 And Gary is of the LGBT community. So he was like, don't, don't even, don't say the wrong thing. You walk it through a landmine. So he, I mean, that's the kind of the, I wanted to set the tone of how people have to address this, but it wasn't only a man, man issue because we have another uh person that we visit on this show. And this is for show 46, uh, which was a potluck as well. That was uh, I think Kanye King and Kamala. I think I have it mixed up, but that was the show. Um, yes, we have Angela Stanton, Angela Stanton King, um, and she is the mother of a LGBT child.

17:54 And let's just hear her perspective on this topic. How does it benefit Black America? Y'all talking about restoring, right, Black America, restoring our lives, restoring our economy, restoring our families. How does it even benefit Black America to encourage our men to become women? Because first of all, if anybody understands the strategies of war, if they're trying to take out a colony of people, the first thing they do is remove the man. So, as a woman, first of all, I need my man. I need my black man. You know, I need you to be a man. I need you to lead. I don't need you to be competition. I don't need you to feel like you're a woman or feel like you are me because I don't have to give my crown away.

18:40 So, no, I don't support feminizing, especially not our boys. But if you're an old man and you want to make a decision that that's what you want to do, that's what you want to do. But I don't have to support it. And I don't. And tell me, how does it benefit us? Now, just what I've something I've noticed is that you lump everybody together. You say, this child is LGBTQ, and that person's child is LGBTQ. Kind of not fair. The kid's either gay, straight, queer, or whatever, but you can't be the whole acronym. So I don't actually know what was her child or what is her child.

19:23 Her child is gay. It's a male child. Okay. And he's gay. But the reason why I say that the acronym is because that's how it's presented as this community. Now, we all know that there's infighting in the community. And it's, you know, we've had that discussion before, but just. just for the sake of brevity, you know, I actually couldn't remember. So, I was like, in the context of that clip, it made a difference, but yeah, now it makes sense. Okay, right. Which her son is very feminine as well.

20:01 So, I mean, I don't want to lump, like I said, we're not, that's not what we're here for. Uh, but I just want to give some background to this story and everybody's perspective across a broad spectrum of political backgrounds. Angela Stanton being a adamant Trump supporter, uh, Ricky Smiley being an adamant Democrat reporter, I mean, supporter. Uh, he's probably both supporter and reporter, sure. Yeah, right. And little Bootsy, he's he's uh representing the trap, so that's that's the politics from the trap. So, where the angle I'm coming from this is the

20:40 concu surf. Now, we've we've talked about this before on 48, and that was the shootest. And this is from Dr. Hassan T. Hassan Johnson. And just to get some background on him, we're talking about a serious professional here. He is an associate professor of Afrikaner Studies at California State University, Fresno. And he specializes in black male studies, which I think is one of a handful of schools that have that studies. And it's more specifically Black Masculinity, Comparative Black Gender, and Black Male Extitualism.

21:22 I think that's how you pronounce it. Anyway, he operates in the Black Manosphere. And we talked about this before, which the Black Manosphere is this somewhat safe space for Black men on YouTube, basically, mostly on YouTube, but it ventures out in other platforms where Black men have gotten together. And you saw blame Black men kind of birthed out of this. What you're seeing, and it's funny. I just want to say this right quick. What you're seeing in the 2020s for men and more specifically black men is what you saw for women in the 1920s.

22:05 You have this re-emergence of gender rights and a push for gender rights because black men have been suppressed so much that they've created this safe space. And it's other people I'm going to start bringing into 2021, the MoFAC show Adam Curry, that's going to highlight this even more. But he goes on to talk about the concuSerf. So as you can see today, we're talking about the reality of Black men's disposable role as concu surfs. I've covered this in another show. The whole concept of concuserfs is a bringing together of two basic ideas, the concubine and the surf.

22:47 And this, in many ways, has to do with the social expectation of black men, both in the larger society, but more particularly within black America. The idea that black men are not only disposable, but their roles are to serve as sexual concubines as well as serfs, right? Who are really just designed to serve. You lift, bear that tote, so on and so forth. The disposability, right? So the idea of the concuserf and how our lives and our deaths can be taken for granted. We don't talk as much about our lives because there's all kinds of contestation and shaming that goes on when we talk about what black men experience in their own community, right?

23:26 But even but it's clearly evident in our deaths how we're perceived and how our deaths are often used for everybody's advancement but black men themselves. And one of the biggest indicators of that is how much policy has been developed in the last few decades to stem the tide of those deaths, right? Very little. And yet and still the social expectations play on. Yeah, that would. All right. That was an impactful episode. That was really good with the concubine surf combo. ConcuSerf was really good. Yeah. So what you're going to see here is more of the surf than the concubine and this aspect of it because Mike Tyson was leveraged. And this is where we get the Bootsy versus Mike Tyson versus.

24:11 What you have here is TMZ. This next clip is from TMZ and Harvey Levin and Charles Labodier. Oh, I know. I couldn't figure out how to pronounce the black. It's the black guy. The black guy in TMZ. Wow, ball. Not the other black guy, but the black guy. I mean, no, because I made this point. I made it the point for a reason. Every time Harvey speaks on race relations. relations, he always has this guy at his flank to like kind of like, oh, okay, we're cool. I'm cool to talk about this. And what you're going to hear is, well, I'll let you hear it for yourself.

24:55 You did a podcast with Boozy, and what you said, I thought was great. I mean, that's what we want to congratulate you on, Mike. I mean, you handled it in such a not just classy way, but gentle. And it felt like you got through to him at the end, and he understood that he was some of the things he's saying were hateful. You know, I was Bootsy at one time. And my daughter, she flew all the way from Washington, New York City to LA, California, where I'm at, just to be there because she thought Bootsy was so disrespectful, she had to confront him.

25:38 Can you imagine that? And I'm saying, hey, no, you can't confront. Who do you think you will come down and confront my guests? You can't do that. And she said, no, I got to talk to him, man. This brother is disrespectful to the community. And then. Oh, man. Lati Podier. Lati Bodiere. Yes. That's the guy. Yeah. So, do you see what's going on here? Well, yeah. I mean, this is, first of all, what I see going on is Mike Tyson looking extremely weak when I hear him speak like that. That's the first thing I see. Just doesn't sound good.

26:18 Because I don't want to lead you. I just want to, but can I get the bell ding ding? This is where it starts. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. We're going into the round here. Yes, here we go. All right. So this is where it starts. Mike Tyson's daughter, who is part of the LGBT community, leverages Mike Tyson's toxic masculinity to confront Bootsy or allow her to confront Bootsy and with the threat of violence. And this is why I said Mike Tyson is being used as a concu serve. The great thing is, the great thing is, the white guy 11 runs away with the bank

26:59 with all of this crazy stuff. He's making it entertainment. Right, he makes the entertainment, but and we'll get more into like how she leverages him. But where we stop at seven, let's go ahead and get into eight. And I'm saying, hey, no, you can't come. Who do you think you will come down and confront my guests? You can't do that. And she said, no, I got to talk to him, man. This brother is disrespectful to the community. And then, so she came in. They didn't show it. She came and she confronted him. And I was worried because I thought I was going to have to get angry because this is my baby. But he conducted himself like a gentleman. And it went okay.

27:42 It went okay. It didn't go like I anticipated it to go. My daughter has a lot of courage and stuff. Well, obviously she passed some of that on to you because I just felt like the way you handled it was really well done. And probably the best, most effective way to get through to Boozy and make him understand that what he was saying was hurtful. So congratulations on that. Boots is beautiful as far as I'm concerned. It's just that he got to be out of, he got to win the fight over those demons. He has to win. Can't give into them. Oh, man. And now you see. This is only in my peripheral vision, Mo. I saw some of this.

28:23 It was very, very peripheral. I'm glad you're bringing this up because obviously, you know, me is like, okay, sports, bullcrap. No, I'm not watching. I'm looking at something else. But this is much bigger than you realize, of course. It's way bigger because before we get into the Mike Tyson and Bootsy interaction, Boosie was banned from Planet Fitness over his statements in Georgia. He was kicked out of Planet Fitness. And this is a People's Magazine article. And it was said he was kicked out because I think the manager of Planet Fitness was gay and he didn't like his statements.

29:05 So he kicked him out. And he's the big, he's the kicker right here while I looked into it. So I always say, more time, better show. Yes. This happened. Well, I won't get into that. Let's get back to the interaction between Bootsy and Mike Tyson. So I want to put something out there. And it's called the. crazy cousin effect. So, we have this thing in the black community, a crazy blood or whatever, where women will confront men and then leverage family members

29:50 against that other man. Oh, really? So, they'll come in and be confronted. Yes, it was actually a famous scene from a famous part of a famous movie called Menace to Society. Where a woman gets pregnant and the guy doesn't know if it's his or not. He's like, I don't know, it ain't my baby. And she has her cousin go confront the guy that she thinks pregnant, and he gets to get the crap beat out of him. Then he comes back and shoots everybody up. Hopefully, that's not spoiled alert, but it's like a 30-year-old movie. So, sounds like a nice wrong call. Right. So, this is a no, this is a real effect where black men are weaponized against each other. And this was done on a very high level where she knew, you heard what Mike said.

30:33 I thought it was going to go another way. I had to get angry. Get angry, yeah. Right. And then you heard Harvey say, Well, she passed her courage on to you. Now, this is a man that gets in the ring with another trained athlete and in combat sport, but she's passing courage on to him. So, I mean, I'm just showing you, this is very important. That's Harvey. You know what that is to me? That's Harvey Levin. In my mind, the way I heard that was, I'm really a little bit above you, Mike Tyson. And I'm telling you that, you know, you got your courage from the kid, really, because now you're a good man. It was icky, but that's that's TMZ.

31:14 That's what it is. But it's bigger than TMZ. It's bigger than TMZ. So, what we're going to do now is we always go back and listen to the real tape. We don't listen to sound clips. So, I went to Mike Tyson's podcast called Hot Boxing with Mike Tyson. Yeah, this is what I do. This is where Bootsy was invited to be on. And let's get into, I think you like homosexuals one. I'm sorry to say that. I ain't young. Like, you, I watch everything. He said he's 37. He's 37. Hey, hey, you know what I'm saying? Sit down, Bootsy, Bootsy, sit down, bro. Bootsy, check this out. Who are you?

32:00 Who are you? What happened? What happened to you to make you the way you are? You know, I come from the slums. You know, Bad. I know we all come from the slums, but it's something about the slums. Like, it's something. Let's talk about me. Let's see. I'm from the slums, too. And you know what? Blew my mind when somebody, I had a hat. My mother bought me a hat in the 70s. The Robin Hood had a relief I had to have. I must have been nine or something. But for some reason, I had an innate, I like style. I like clothes. It's out of the blue. I like clothes. And somebody punched me in my face. He became my good friend too eventually.

32:41 But he punched me in my face and took my hat. And that blew my mind. That blew my mind. And ever since then, I didn't understand the world. And people would pick on me, take my money. I became not a nice person. I heard people and I was just really bad stuff. But if what happened, how did you? That's who I am now. I'm an insecure kid. I'm really scared all the time. But everybody thinks I'm fucking fearless. So what you heard at the very beginning of the clip, you maybe can go back and listen to it if you want to, but you heard Bootsy saying, I'm 35 years old. I've seen it all. You know what I'm saying? I've seen everything. So you have this interaction between two black men from different generations.

33:24 So we always talk about the generational war. And this is an example of it. Now, I think Mike Tyson is like 54. Bootsy is like 30-something, maybe 40. I think he said 35, if I'm not mistaken. But if this conversation would have happened 10 years ago and not in a podcast studio, but on a street corner. Might have ended ugly. This is how it ends. This is how it works. You have an older man trying to son a younger man, and that younger man feels like he's being disrespected. He's like, sit down, you don't know nothing, you know, that kind of thing. And then the way he comes at him, like, you know, who are you?

34:05 You know, that kind of thing. So we got to go back to Back to the Shooters throwback clip. I mean, excuse me, throwback show 48. And this is from a local report from a Chattanooga station on Black on Black Crime. When it comes to Black on Black crime in Chattanooga, Gang Task Force Community Outreach Coordinator Fred Hauser has seen it all. Hauser believes the problems unfolding on the street. streets don't start on the streets, but rather at home where offenders come from broken families with little or no guidance. People often point back to the family. Well, when I was coming up, it was a primary family, the mother and father, but it was also everybody in the neighborhood that represent the family.

34:48 That structure, you know, has broken down. And age does play a role. That was confirmed by a man who admits to being gang associated for his protection and the protection of his family. We agreed to hide his face and alter his voice. It's a myth that, you know, the older you get and being in the gang, you know what I'm saying, the more power and respect you got. And I ain't about that no more. You know what I'm saying? It's about the nigga who out here putting in the most work. You know what I'm saying? Nigga who pistol play heavy. You know what I'm saying? Nigga who got a name for himself. So these young niggas be 16, 17 years old and be telling a 30, 40 year old girl what to do. Okay, I see the problem. Yeah, you see what I'm saying? Oh, yeah. You don't want to get old in the gang anymore.

35:30 This is not the way to go. No, you don't. Because for Mike's era, it was about fists, right? I mean, who had the nicest hands. But this younger generation, maybe starting with Boosie age, it was about who, you know what I'm saying? As the gentleman said, whose pistol play was the heaviest? Who was quick to pull out? And that's why we labeled that show the shooters because it was similar to the Wild, Wild West in the 1800s. About, you know, the culture around guns. So I laid that out because I'm showing they put these two men in it, pit them against each other, and it could have gone way left.

36:11 Luckily, these two men have matured to the point where they can sit out and have a civil conversation and it stays civil. But I want to talk about a larger phenomenon. Like I said, is the crazy cousin scenario where a woman confronts a man, she physically sometimes, and then she brings in her crazy cousin that either you have to harm him or he harms you. And that's exactly what his daughter did. And I have proof of it, and we'll get more into that. But let's go back to the conversation between Bootsy and Mike Tyson in Clip 11. So what do you want to listen to? Oh, this is why I want to think. How do you feel about other people's feelings? You know, you offend a lot of people.

36:56 You talk about fucking gay motherfuckers, homos and the facts. No, no, a lot of times I need to shut the fuck up. It's just, it's just. Why don't you? I don't know, man. It'd be hard. Why do you say things about a person that might be a homosexual? Why do you say that about them? Do you feel the possibility that you're a homosexual and you might disrespect them? You furthest yourself from being a homosexual or thinking you may like homosexuals. Nah, nah, I'm straight as an arrow. I'm just saying, you know. I'm not saying you are, but if you're straight, why do you... I really, I really, I really commented on the Dwayne Wade situation.

37:37 Yeah. Because I got offended because it's a child. You know, that's why I really got offended, you know. And that's why I really said if it was a motherfucking 19-year-old, 18-year-old grown person, I probably wouldn't. I know I wouldn't have said nothing. But I felt like he, I felt like, you know. I'm just having, you know, I'm not judging you. Don't ever think I'm here judging you. I'm just trying to understand you. Yeah. I got some demons. You ain't in my world when it comes to demons. Yeah. Okay, but yes, tell me why. It was just like, you know, I just felt like, you know, that's a child. I feel like a child ain't at 12 can't make that decision.

38:21 I feel like I feel like that's just how I feel. Wow, man. So Mike's kid really did a number on him, too. Yeah. Real number. Handle him. He was handled. Yeah. Yeah. Got him all charged up, gave him the talking points, and then sent him in there on Bootsy. But it gets worse. But just say if I can say, it's the first time I think I've really heard this accusation. This is a very common accusation. And it turns out to be quite true often, certainly with politicians who make a lot of anti-gay or not pro-gay legislation.

39:03 Regardless of what it is, if they're closeted and then it comes out and it's like, oh my God, the people who yell the loudest about it are typically gay. But that's not true, but it's now been used in this situation. And I don't think I've actually ever seen it used as a teaching moment because that's what Mike Tyson is trying to do here. at the puppet hand of his kid. Yeah. And you notice Boosie picked up what Mike was putting down because Mike never really went to the Dwayne Wade subject. No, but that's what this is about. Right, but he knew where he was headed.

39:43 And you can see Bootsy kind of trying to diffuse the situation. He's like, Yeah, I need to shut the F up sometimes. You know, yeah, Mike, you're right. And he was like, he wanted just to let it pass by. But that wasn't the case. When Mike Tyson says to you, when Mike Tyson's smoking weed and says, You've got to tell me. Okay, Mike. Okay. What is this angry thing you were talking about? Yeah, Mike, whatever you need to know. I'll tell you. And that's how black men are leveraged as serfs. Now you see the cock you serve. You're the muscle.

40:21 You're the attack dog. And we'll pull you out when we need you to get other men into line, whether it's through the media, hot tech lynching, or whether it's through the threat of physical violence. This is what you have. Finally, that was the end of the interaction. So Boosie pops back up on the DJ Vlad show and he kind of does his account of what transpired and what happened in that interaction between him and Mike Tyson. We can't start this interview without mentioning your interview with Mike Tyson. We have to talk about that. I got a lot of questions, but the Mike Tyson thing, I think, has to be front and center.

41:03 Now, after the interview came out, and this interview was old, was old because I remember when you and Mo 3 were on promo tour. That was like way early in the year. That was before the pandemic, I think. Yeah, right before the pandemic. Right. So this is what, like March or something? Yeah. Okay. So nine months later, this interview comes out. And Tyson did a couple of interviews. You know, I just did one with him and he mentioned this as well. Is that before he did the interview with you and he was telling his family, oh, I'm going to meet with Boosie, his daughter, who is gay herself, was like, oh, you're interviewing Boosie?

41:47 I am flying down to LA to confront him over his alleged homophobic comments. So, you know, putting that in perspective, when I saw the way Tyson was speaking to you, I think that was the battery in his back. It was his child, which makes sense. Right, right, right. All right. So, so tell me what led up to this interview and when you sat down with them, how things kind of went. All right, DJ Vlad on the tip. All right. So now I got to lay out the timeline to show you this is deeper than a Mike Tyson, Zaya Wade situation because that Zaya Wade, the episode where Dwayne Wade spoke about it on Ellen, aired on February 11th.

42:34 The episode of Mike Tyson's podcast premiered on October 23rd. Yeah. Why do you wait nine months, 10 months to talk about this subject? Well, makes no sense. Unless there's something else we needed to kick off or get going. I think we do. All right. So I went back to the trending. So I told you, more time, better show because I can really dig into the numbers. Guess what was trending on October 15th, 2020? Ice Cube. Oh, yes, of course. Yeah. Two weeks before the election. Yes. So the message went out: target on black men.

43:20 This premieres October 23rd. Guess what was trending? October 21st. Hashtag blame black men. That went quick. Now, that's a hell of a coincidence. And then you had this Bill Cosby mugshot show up. Yeah. Hell of a coincidence that he calls Bootsy in and says, Hey, yeah, I want to talk to you about something. Right. And it becomes his hit. And this was all politically motivated. I'm presuming it being just before the election. October 21st. Yeah. October 23rd. Yeah.

44:01 No, I'm just saying. I mean, this is big. This is way bigger. Getting everybody into line. Right. Get the black men in the line. They're thinking on their own. You can't have that. You know. And that's, you know, that's how it went. So we're going to get into part. two of this Vlad interview with Boosie. Really let nothing led up to it. They just say Tyson wanted to interview you. I'm like, you know, I ain't really know Tyson be interviewing motherfuckers. I'm like, hell yeah, I want to interview you, Tyson. So when I got there, you know, when I got there, we got the interviewing. You know, it seemed like he was passionate about that situation.

44:44 Like he was, he kept going back to that situation. You know, and uh and I'm like, you know, I'm telling them, like, you know, like, I don't agree with it. You know, and uh, but the interview was weird, bro. It was weird. Uh, I even went to asking him questions, you know. And uh, well, they took a lot of stuff out the interview, but it was, he seemed like he was passionate about it. And after that, me and his daughter went on interview. His daughter came and interviewed me.

45:24 She's like, Dad, I want to interview him. I want to, I want to, I want to ask him some questions right now. I said, come on, come on. Oh, man. So they, they even massaged the whole thing. They edited it. They got the clips. They launched those on Twitter. What's the kid doing? Who's the kid affiliated with? I can't find any. I can't even find her name. It's not like she's, it's not like she's this big activist or anything. I think, like I said, I think she had the battery put in her back. Yeah. And she put the battery in her dad's back. What does she do? No. Is she working?

46:01 I don't know. Like I said, I can't even find her name. Which, I mean, none of the articles I read just says Tyson's daughter, Tyson's daughter, Tyson's daughter. It doesn't mean mentioning her name. It's very weird. And if you notice, Boosie says, I didn't back down from Mike. But if you listen to Harvey on TMZ, he's said that you got through to him. You know what I'm saying? Basically, you educated him. And that's not the case at all. But that here's the great thing, Moe. You look at the Wikipedia for Mike Tyson. And so it always has spouses, you know, it's got a one, two, three.

46:41 Children, eight. Usually, every single kid is listed on Wikipedia. It's got eight kids, not a single one is listed. I cannot find her name. I was going to look into her. I mean, as much as I could, but it didn't exist. So it's just, I'm telling you, this is how, and it's very dangerous. The pitting the black man against the black man. And that's the reason why I did this was cost of the versus that we did last week. It was the same thing. People hope to see something bad happen between Jeezy and Gucci.

47:19 Right. That's why two million people tune in. Let's be honest here. But at the same time, it was actually a really, really good versus, but it was a complete, it was hijacked for political reasons. In comes Stacey Abrams with her little bit and everything. As in here comes Mike Tyson's daughter nine months later to meet what I think. And I'm like I said, it could be a space jam reach. Maybe not. But I'm just saying, when you line these things up across the timeline, it just makes no sense why you want to talk about a nine-month-old story. Yeah. All of a sudden. But it's like we need to throw every negative black man out there the last week before the election, last two weeks before the election to get them back in formation.

48:03 And that's how I see it. That's how I took it. So, I mean, they swear to say perception is reality. So that's how it was perceived to me: is that black man get back in your space. So, um, so I we have a part three. I just want to make sure I didn't miss anything. Um, let's go ahead and get into part three. You know, so she got in there. She uh, she on something. I'm gonna tell you what she owe. Do you know how many people you are? Do you know what's going on? And no, she was standing like, Do you know what's going on in the transgender world right now?

48:39 And do you know how many people are committing suicide and dying? So I would tell her, Do you know what's going on with black people right now? We're getting shot down. We're getting, they got so many single mothers out there. And when she would shoot that at me, I would shoot that at her. So basically, she was saying the things that she was passionate about. And I was saying the things that I was passionate about. And she couldn't feel me. And I guess she was saying I couldn't feel her. But I was telling her I have no ill wills towards that. I was telling her you're talking about that. Well, let me, I'm talking about this also. I feel like this is a bigger subject that's close to my heart.

49:23 So we didn't see eye to eye, so she got up and walked out. Ramsey, I think it's Ramsey Tyson. Oh, is that what it is? I have to do open a foul on her. Yeah. Because I find this, I find this fascinating. Um, that this is another example. We talked about the concubesurf, but this is also the sacrifice, right? This is the black man being the sacrifice. She's trying to elevate her community, which you clearly she sees her community first community as the LGBT community, not the black community. She's trying to elevate that into whiteness at the sacrifice of a black man.

50:03 Like I said, that could have went. And I'm going to give you an example of how Leffet could have gone. You know, who was in the studio with Bootsy that day? Mo 3. He's dead now. What happened to Mo 3? Gang, ganglion, gangland style murder. I mean, that could have just like that. What you saying, what you saying? Right. That's all it takes. What you saying. What you saying. Yeah, shoot. And they play with us like puns. And the reason why I say that is, I went to Pink News.

50:47 I'm not a frequent subscriber to this website. This is, I think, for the LGBT community. And this is the headline from Pink News. Mike Tyson had to stop his daughter from knocking out bigoted anti-LGBT plus rapper Bootsy Badass. Yeah. That's the headline. Yeah. You know, a lot of people were very impacted by 55 because we really got into a lot of the music culture. Right.

51:23 And so you hear this, and not just the music culture, but the idea of what's being played on the radio and then the comparison between, well, would you like to have this whole catalog of songs that are men killing women? No, I don't want that. You know, but black men killing black men. Yeah, I'll play all those songs. This is where it comes into view when you see how the entertainment industry. Well, I'm reiterating. I mean, I know some of this inherently, but I was in the entertainment business so long. And when I started doing other things, I really turned a blind eye towards most of it. And I'm glad you're focusing me a bit on it because these things have meaning and reason.

52:04 And it's probably all part of a much bigger show. And if you look at it, it's so many black, young black men, not to go back to 55, just an exchange of words, an expectation to be something that society wants them to be. And it just turns into something that it shouldn't. And then, on the other hand, these same people, just as since we're on the Mike Tyson subject, there was a celebrity exhibition between Mike Tyson and Roy Jones Jr. Yeah. Another one I did. Another fight I did not watch.

52:47 Right. I mean, yeah. But but people wanted to see Blood Sport, right? People wanted to see Roy Jones get killed by Mike Tyson. I mean, that's the meeting. Right. That's what Mike Tyson allure is: him killing people in the ring. He didn't kill him. Right. But I'm not going to talk about that. I'm going to talk about the undercard. So you had Nate Robinson, a former basketball player, and I, what's the guy's name? Paul. One of the, he's a famous YouTuber, something Paul. Oh, anyway. Yeah, the guy who was in the forest filming where people hung themselves. Jake Paul. Right. Jake Paul. Jake Paul. Like, why do I even know that? No,

53:28 it's pertinent to the story. So Mike, I mean, Jake Paul knocks out Nate Robinson cold. I mean, like, internet mean worthy knockout. And you have Jamal Hill and her co-co-star on this show saying, isn't it racist for a white man to knock out a black man? That's so racist. I wasn't going to cover it about that. Do you have that show? Do you have this clip where she says that? I do not have the clip. You can easily find it. I mean, it's all over. Like I said, I didn't want to really bring that, but I'm just since you made that point.

54:08 It's this weird connection. connection. If it's okay for black people to harm black people, right? But if a white man harms a black man, yeah. I mean, and now you get to, and now you get to the crux of just briefly. The reason why I said earlier, another fight I didn't see, is I talked to Joe Rogan about this too. It's like, I don't understand it. I don't get it. I don't like violence in that regard at all. I don't want to see any men hitting any other men. I don't get it. It's not me. It's not in my nature. I'm not typical, I think. But when you look at what you just said, when you look at it that way, it's like, yeah, why is it okay for two black guys to go beat each other up?

54:50 But then a white guy comes in and it's wrong. Oh my God. None of it's good in my book. And I'm not a big USC. I'm a Boston fan. I like Boston because I mean, I think it's probably some of the greatest athletes. I mean, try holding your hands up for three minutes and punching. So, I mean, those guys are well-trained and conditioned, but it's always this pitting against each other. So I guess we can wrap up with this with number 15 and the final clip in this verses. Okay, was Tyson in the room when this was happening? Yeah. Okay. And I remember he talked about this, I think, on TMZ.

55:29 He said, yeah, you know, he was kind of concerned over you and his daughter kind of going at it because, you know, he's still, he's still the father. And he was worried that he might react himself if things started to just kind of get out of hand. But was he pretty much cool and controlled, though? Yeah, he was cool. Like, Mike was cool. Like, you know, after the interview, we took pictures. Like, he was straight. You know what I'm saying? But, you know, like, I'm a, you know, I'm a G, bro. Like, you know, like, if I feel, if we're in the interview, I'm going to speak my mind. I don't care who that, this ain't no boxing match. You know, this is an interview.

56:11 And, you know, she won't, you know, she won't, she won't, she won't talk to me. And I'm going to talk. You know, I'm going to talk. And we just didn't see eye to eye on the situations. But after that, me and Tyson was good. You know, I didn't speak to his daughter after that, but she was pretty angry. But me and Tyson, we chat, we spoke. You know, it wasn't that. How old was his daughter? Oh, man. And a quote from Tyson in that same article from Pink News. He said, I was watching her. She wanted to physically grab this guy and start attacking this guy.

56:51 So she brought that energy into the room. Boosie loses his cool. Mike Tyson attacks him. In another universe, it could have gone down. Very bad. Very, very bad. Even her being there was a very bad idea. Right. Even Mike knew it was because he saw her from the TMZ interview. You're not coming out here to confront my artist, but she leveraged him as a serf. Cocky serf. There it is. Man. Poor Mike. Yeah, Mike, Mike. But Mike has always been used, I would think, but I'm not going to say too much about that because that's my Tyson. Because Don King has nothing to say on the matter. Yes, I agree.

57:35 Right. So that was segment one. And I guess this would be a good time for us to explain what we do here at MoFax with Adam Curry. First, the white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro. And the so-called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of the white man. Then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only way that they'll ever do it. And this is the only thing we ever do 100% on the mark every single time. We don't hold back. We ask and tell exactly what's on our minds. It's crazy.

58:17 Some people can't handle it. Most can. And those that can are the ones who are producers of MoFax with Adam Curry. Going against this narrative is not popular with advertisers. It's not popular with Mike Tyson's kid. You know, we'd be deplatformed in a heartbeat just talking about this in a counterproductive way if we were on a mainstream stage, if we were using YouTube. All these things are very, very dangerous. So we do it here. We do it with your help and with your input as well. We love what our producers have to say. We love our producers going out and turning more people onto the show. And we had a great kickoff year.

58:58 And 2021 is going to be even better. I can feel it. We've got lots of big things coming up for us. And yes. And I'd like to thank our executive producers and associate executive producers for episode number 656. Again, all we ask for is whatever you think this show is worth to you. Did you learn something? Did your kids learn something? Did it open your eyes? Did you enjoy yourself? Was it just entertaining? Translate that into a dollar amount. Doesn't matter what it is. You determine your own value. All we can do is just appreciate everything that you're doing in return. And we kick it off with our top donor. Now, it has been a number of weeks. So this, my goodness, this came in mid-December. Has it been that long, Moe? This is nuts, man. I almost feel rusty.

59:43 I mean, you and I talk, you know, from time to time. We'll have a nice chat for an hour, an hour, a half. We're dreaming, talking about stuff, not necessarily show-related. But yeah, I missed this. I really did. I hope everyone else missed it. And as I was telling you, pre-show, I mean, I was amped to get here, but I'll get more into what happened after this donation segment or what's going on. Yeah, you were all jiddy before we started. All right, let's go to Brad R. King. $344.33, which is incredibly generous of you, Brad. Thank you. His note, the Trapper's Delight Show was impressive. And I just mentioned that, but I, too, was blown away.

1:00:23 And I kind of love how Moe's dragging me back into show business. I kind of swore it off, but I'm paying attention now. Southern playlistic, Southern Playlist. I got that. I got that. Southern Playlist is Cadillac Funky Music. What is that? Oh, that's Outcast Record. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go. Well, that was one of his favorite. That was one of his favorite albums growing up. Kids Are Mean. Sports and listening to rap were my outlet. Your show is so good in so many ways. I'm learning, understanding my past and current mindset and more. It's deep. Love you guys. Same to all the No Agenda fam. Merry Christmas. Or Merry Christmas to you, Brad. Thank you so much.

1:01:04 Benjamin Naidus, 133.33, throwing some magic numbers in our face. Finally became a Viscount of San Francisco. Now it's time to get rid of my deadbeat status. The last episode that ended with that overproduced mini clip and Adam's unique perspective on the old Catholics in action was dope. Wow. I like it when people pay attention that way. That's very cool. Thank you so much. Let's see. Thanks for helping us, helping us all do the work. You too. Wait. Thanks for helping us all do the work, you two. Oh, I got it. Yeah. Well, you're welcome. And keep that good work up. And let me D-Deadbeat you here.

1:01:44 Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat. I just want to say happy new year to Dame Jennifer, who has been along for the ride. That was her D-Deadbeating. And she'll be doing it. The official voice and narrator of Mofax Movement. Yes, indeed. Curtis Collins, 101. Merry Christmas, Gents. I'm from ATL. Thug Motivation 101 and Trap House were staples. Also, Love 3636 Juve Pimp C, etc. I know I'm sounding extremely out of touch when I read these. And I'm enjoying it. Blow me, Mo.

1:02:26 Hey, man. If you want to know about Lawrence Welk, I've got all his albums. Okay. Episode 55 is a lot. Okay. Now you got to explain some of this because I'm not catching all the jargon. Okay. Tell me about the 55 is a lot. Episode is a lot. Yeah, it's all uppercase. I guess he meant the length of it. I guess he meant the length because we did do a marathon episode. We went about four hours on that one. Okay. Now I'm looking for code that isn't there. All right. Right, right. JK, but so many great. Yeah, it was long, but who cares? So many great nuggets. Especially love the mind trap. Change yourself. Be reflective of things that don't agree with you.

1:03:10 Changing of the physical. Mo, check out Awful Records, which is A-T-L-L-A. I know you appreciate clean beats. A lot on your plate. Father is a good start. Also, Jesus is the one. I got depression. Kenny Beats and Zach Fox. And We Dive at Dawn, Ice Station, Zebra. Peace and Love. Curtain Jen. Oh, my goodness. Thank you, Curtin Jen, for making me look very unhip. You know what? That's that's karma. Karma. Karma for what? What did I do wrong? The misreading on the NA show of cities and names. So, I mean, like, it's the, it's, it's the universe coming back for you.

1:03:51 When wow, you know, I hadn't even considered that. Hmm. Yep. Man, by the way, did you hear John? John on the last show? He's like, you're going to replace me with Mo. And I'm like, oh, man. Little does he know. I can never. John C. Dvorak is not replaceable. That's for sure. That's for sure. Okay. Yes, it is a weird karma, but I'll take it. Cameron Hunter, also an executive producer, episode number 56, who would like to hear Wusa Wowie. Do we have a Wusa Wowie? Do we have two? A Wusa Wowie? We don't think we have a Wow Wowie. What about the Wusa Wowie? I think we got a Wusa, but not a Wusa Wowie. That last episode was absolutely fantastic.

1:04:35 Fantastic. I'm still picking up pieces of my brain from above the floor. Mo, the way you structure episodes from the opening to end to the end song, it's really something. As a guy living in Scotland where the population is something like 97% white, I don't understand black culture one single bit. But damn, I do understand and see underhand tactics and journalists with snipers going in for their next kill. Scoop, he says. Sorry. Anyways, I'm going to pick out some chairs and bring my friends to the table. And Adam, thank you very, very much for your courage, my friend. No doubt you could have made big effing bucks somewhere, but I hope you know and feel how important the work you are doing is. Love and light. Thank you very much, Cameron. Maybe, but I'll tell you for sure.

1:05:20 All the work I've done, this show is the most fulfilling in my career. So you go give you a Wusa. Woosa. Wusa. Wusa. Nothing like a good Wusa. Tyler Boyd. I'm sorry. Yes. Tyler Boyd, $100. My favorite thing about Mo Facts are the in-depth personality profiles of powerful people like Bill Gates, Barack Obama, and Donald Trump. Keep it up. Yeah, these are fun episodes to do. The ones we highlight like 45 Savage was a good staple. I'm sure we'll be doing some of those in the coming year. But you never know. Theodora Dorinda

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1:06:45 Love what you two are doing. You've been educating, entertaining me on stuff I never knew and I needed to know. Oh, you're in my boat, Ryan. John Taylor, birthday karma on the 19th. Well, we can give you some mo karma for that. You've got Mo Karma. How about a biscuit? Oh, yeah. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. There you go, John. Chris Bailey, 55. We're going to put him in the 56 club since I'm sure it just came in late. Or we have, yeah, that's not his fault. So we'll add you there. Just a couple of them that way. Can I get a goat Woosa, love and light from Chris Bailey? Yeah, we got a goat Woosa for you.

1:07:33 Extra Woosas. And a staple on the show, DH Slam of the God, 55. We'll put him in the club as well. Show club donation. May the new year bring you truth, elimination, guns, mags, and ammo. From your lips to God's ears, DH Slam of the God. Thank you very much always for being here and for being here for us. Now, I'm sorry, we're actually, these are also associate executive producers, and we'll add Cameron White to that with $50. Thanks for the value. Love the show. And we send it right back to you, Cameron. Thank you for the value you just gave us. Curtis Thomas with $50. Hey, Mo and Adam. I'm listening to episode 55. Apparently, there's another Curtis who donates to the show. Always nice to come across another one. Thanks for the Not the Hip Hop Show hip-hop show. This is a step in the right direction for sure.

1:08:18 Wait, who did we have the other Curtis? Maybe it's Curtis Collins he was talking about. I wonder. We have Hig Hawker with $50. Hig Hawker says, thanks for the knowledge and Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year to you. Michael Kopliki, been listening since the beginning. This was way overdue. Thanks for the shows. Mike, thank you very much. Appreciate it. Adam Choi, associate executive producership with $50. And he says, hey, Mo and Adam really enjoyed Trapper's Delight. Willie D of the Ghetto Boys was recently on JRE, and he spoke about how hip-hop used to be very positive, upbeat, skillful, but at some point, there was. what he called a conspiracy by execs in boardrooms. Oh man, I know this story.

1:09:00 I love this story. A concerted effort to stifle and suppress the positivity and talent and promote the message of criminal elements, drugs, bling, et cetera, of the less talented artists. He said he was putting together a documentary that is to be released soon with interviews and proof of such conspiracy. It is really interesting to hear from Willie Dee about the top-down corporate executive-driven influence and the bottom-up history and evolution of trap music and culture from Mo and how both have impacted and molded the music we hear today and what goes on behind the scenes. Really enjoying the pod. Thanks for all the good work. Can I get a Wusa? Yeah, you can get a Wusa. Of course you can.

1:09:40 Wusah. Woo. What you're actually seeing is the way I feel it is, and even some episodes before Trapper's Delight, the whole scheme is being revealed for you. Not just that one board meeting, which you can find that on the internet. You can read about this. I think there's pieces of that puzzle that I can help put together just from being more on the inside of the music business. But for sure, things have changed a lot since hip-hop, the hippot to the hip, hip-hop, and you don't stop a rocking. So, yeah, definitely stuff has happened. And we appreciate you supporting us, Adam.

1:10:20 Chef Elvis, Elvis Rosenberg, $50. He says, great show. And we thank you for your great donation. And with that, we wrap up the executive producers and associate executive producers for episode number 56 of MoFax with Adam Curry. We'll be thanking a couple more people when we come back a little bit later on in the show. And an appeal to you for your time, your talent, and your treasure, and anything you can add to the program. We're both pretty accessible on email, and Mo is certainly all over the Twitter and Instagram. No, you don't do Instagram. You do YouTube. That's your main thing. I'll do both. I'm not active. I dip and dive in both of them. So I'm not a real heavy user.

1:11:05 Did you get that before I continue? Did you get my text about New Tube, that app? The one you just sent me? Yeah. Earlier? Yeah. Yeah. Can you install that? Were we able to see it or not? Because that's like your YouTube hack, man. That's your bootleg YouTube app. Because you can run it in the background and you can do the comments and everything. You will love this app. I would definitely look into it because a lot of people saying YouTube is asshole. Well, YouTube is definitely asshole.

1:11:46 To finish it up, if you want to support us, please go to mofax.com. You can find a lot at mofax.com. If you want to go directly to the donation page to support us, it'll be mofundme.com. And we're getting stuff set up and we may talk about it on the next episode. But we're going to try and go a little more futuristic on the show. And so we'll be looking at Bitcoin and taking Bitcoin payments and supporting that movement as well. I didn't have to do much to convince Mo. If that was your idea, I think it was your idea. Wasn't it your idea? Hey, let's just lose a Bitcoin.

1:12:28 I love it. I love it. It's a very good idea. Well, of course, everything will stay open. We would never want to reject anything, but this show is from the future. We might as well give that money from the future a shot as well. So again, MoFax.com, go straight to the donation page at M-O-E-F-U-N-D-M-E.com and thank you for supporting episode and producing episode number 56. All right, so we wrapped up the first match, and I guess we can go ahead into the second match. And this is a matchup between two super producers, Kanye West versus Diddy.

1:13:07 And I don't know if you've checked Twitter today, but right now my Twitter feed is just tweets from Donald Trump and Kanye West. Kanye is getting kind of political. He tweeted, My MAGA hat is signed, followed by 30 fire emojis. Now, that is fitting, because that is how many times I would set that hat on fire. I think I think Kanye's lobbying for a job as Trump's new communications director. They could just change his name to Kellyanne Kanye.

1:13:47 But the height of Kanye. Kanye's Trump praise has got to be when he tweeted: you don't have to agree with Trump, but the mob can't make me not love him. We are both dragon energy. He is my brother. I love everyone. I don't agree with everything anyone does. That's what makes us individuals, and we have the rights to independent thought. Yes, we have the right to independent thought, and I independently think that Kanye has lost his mind. You know what, Kanye? You know what? Donald Trump is your brother. It is true. I am your brother too. And brother to brother, I just want to say, put the phone down.

1:14:33 Oh, Steve. So shut up, Kanye. Yes. Big time shut up. Well, it's always so twisted when they go after Kanye, and then there always comes a period after that of, oh, well, you know, we should be a little more sensitive because he's clearly having episodes. You know, people are diagnosing him with no reason or no grounds to do that. It's very bizarre how he's handled. And he is, he's tungsten, man. He's bounces off him. Yeah, he's bulletproof. He's counsel-proof. But I want to read the blurb to you. And this goes more to the demasculation that we talked about in the first segment.

1:15:17 This is the actual blurb from the YouTube video I snagged this from. Two men most famous for loving themselves decide to branch out and try to love each other. Any innuendo there? Maybe I'm reaching, but I'm just saying. But yeah, I mean, mocking Kanye mental stake. Black man's got to be crazy to think for himself. So you probably wonder how I'm going to versus Kanye West versus Diddy. And this is more of a political pundit, you know, slash political activist. That's the battle we're going to have here between these two. So Kanye West and Diddy, we both covered them on show.

1:16:02 Kanye's been on two shows, actually, 13, and then he had a mini segment on 46, which was a Potluck show. And then we covered Diddy in 35. So what we're going to do is a little background between Kanye and Diddy, and then we're going to get into the conflict between the two. So what does the left do in response to Kanye West? How do you make Kanye West shut up? The short answer is you can't. So you work to discredit him. You go ad hominem. You ignore what he's saying. You attack him as a person. You don't engage with his ideas. You know, you would lose if you tried that. So instead, you try to keep people from listening to him. It's an easier job when you're dealing with less famous people.

1:16:43 Thanks to our centrally controlled internet, the left can usually silence dissent in an instant with the press of a button. But with prominent wrong thinkers like Kanye West, censorship requires a finer touch, more artistic flair. In Kanye West's case, they decided to attack him as mentally ill. You hear that a lot now. But it's a relatively new tactic. It was just a little over four years ago that CNN published a piece about Kanye West. They highlighted his most famous moments, like the time he interrupted Taylor Swift at the MTV Video Music Awards. CNN described all these incidents as, quote, controversial. But there was no mention of Kanye West being a danger to himself, much less mentally ill.

1:17:25 No, just controversial. Not a problem. And then West appeared to say something positive about Donald Trump, and everything changed in an instant. Kanye West became a babbling lunatic, the kind of guy who pulls imaginary insects out of the air and soils his own pants. A total nutcase. Yeah, about right. Yeah. And not only that, but we see how Fox News is leveraging Kanye. It's like, okay, now, yeah, he's safe now. We can use him. Carlos, he was crazy when he was interrupting Taylor Swift and things that nature to Fox News. So it's like, oh, now he's valuable to us now. So

1:18:07 it's just amazing the high-tech lynching that goes on with figures like him being called crazy and people laughing. And I mean, if you heard in the clip, it just lit out his mind. Ha ha ha. But even beyond this, I mean, I hang out. I mean, because I don't hang out with him, but there's young girls who hang out. My stepdaughter, my own daughter, and the ones in the U.S. who are very woke. They're super woke. They have no problem making fun of Kanye West. He's nuts. Whereas if anyone has any kind of issue, we have to be sensitive and

1:18:53 not triggering. Oh my gosh. How long have we talked about not triggering someone? And I have mentally, I need a mental health day. But then for some reason, and by the way, it's the same with Candace Owens. You got a book of Candace Owens laying around? It's like, oh, Candace Owens. You know, so it's programmed. It is very deep, this programming. This is not even programmed. These are just triggers. I think all this deep programming is in the psyche already of people. This is just stuff to make it, keep it going, keep it fresh. Yeah, and it's the hypocrisy, too, that all black man thinking for himself, he got to be crazy.

1:19:34 You know, I mean, that's troubling, is what it is. So to continue on with the coverage of Kanye, we had to go back to show 13, and that was deconstructing Kanye. And this was the interview with him and Big Boy. Are you afraid of losing your audience? Yay. I told you I'm only afraid of God. I'm only afraid of my daddy. God, I've been 15 years. I'm telling you, God is showing that you can have your own thoughts, bro. I've been canceled before. There was canceled culture. Who told you that my career would be over?

1:20:16 The same people that are telling you that you can't have a right to say who you will vote for, those people will be soon to take Jesus out to school. Those people will be soon to remove Jesus, period, from America, which is the Bible Belt. Those people will be soon, man. Come on, man. I ain't finna go Alex Jones level on y'all, man. Come on, man. What y'all want? Like, wake up. Wake up, Mr. West. Wake up, culture. Wake up. Everybody think they're so woke, but they're following the rules of what woke is supposed to be. Hip-hop ain't never been about following rules. It's been about doing what you feel. I'm going to take the Louis. I'm going to throw it like that. I'm going to do it with the polo. I'm going to do it like this. Even like the way I talk. Hold on. Let me use my African-American voice.

1:20:58 Let me use my Disney-proof voice. Let me, you know what I'm saying? We're not even speaking in our own language, bro. Like, we talk louder than this. Africans talk loud. Italian moms talk loud. We talk louder, but we speak in our corporate voice. Or we don't want to ruin the deal voice. Or this is why, bro, I love y'all, man. And I love me. And I love Christ. And y'all should love to see this. I'm not going to tell y'all what y'all should do. I'm just doing what I do. If you love it, then cool. If y'all want to trap me, it ain't going to make a difference. Honestly, I done been killed so many times on social media, and I'm still here.

1:21:42 I'm still talking. Look at me. I'm glad you do these and the potlucks because I'm just remembering how good that whole interview was. That was really fantastic. I really like that interview. That was great. That was Kanye at his best. And the funny thing is, I'll listen to a clip and I'll hear something totally different the second time around or the third time around than I'll do the first time. And as you saw, you see clips come in. Even if people want to know, I mean, I'll work all the way up to the show starts recording. But what you heard is here, Kanye makes the point.

1:22:25 They're trying to take Jesus out of school. They're trying to remove Jesus. And then he says, I'm not going to go Alex Jones on you. So what you heard there is the kicking in of self-awareness because he knew he had said some things that may be perceived as crazy. And him being called crazy, he starts to self-censor and self-edit. And I think this will be a good time to get the door. So now I can explain my absence. Okay, hold on a second. Yeah, let me just, it's a heavy one.

1:23:06 Hold on a second. Let me just close it. Okay, now it's just us. All right. So people are probably wondering, where the hell is Mo? It's been a month. You know, in these family interactions and gatherings, birthday parties and stuff, I became self-aware of what I was doing with the show and how I was being received. And this is a real phenomenon because this is something that WEBD, WEB, Du Bois, Dubois, or Du Bois. Bois, even this pronunciation of that name

1:23:44 speaks to the perception. I don't want to say Du Bois because I might sound too educated. I don't want to sound Du Bois as somebody from my right. Really? I got to hit it just right. Yes. Shall I tell you something the first time we talked about him? About Du Bois. Yes. Now, I've had friends who had that last name in Europe. And of course, you would pronounce it Dubois. Interestingly, when you said Du Bois, I was just like, that's it. I took that as the official pronunciation. I didn't even think twice about it, really.

1:24:29 But it's an actual, and I'm going to explain to you what it is, and then we'll go back to his name. So it's the double consciousness, and we talked about this before, or the veil. And the way he describes is, he said, describing the double conscious, describing the double lives a black has to live in order to survive in this country. The life of a black and the life of an American. So it's this double consciousness of what a black person is expected to be and what an American is expected to be. And then he said he cites that a Negro is sort of a seven-son one with the veil, seeing himself through his eyes of whites.

1:25:08 So I'm seeing myself as who I am, but then it's not really the double consciousness on its internal, it's external. Like, how is people perceiving me? And then how do I perceive how people is perceiving me? And it put me in a place. I'm just being, I have to be honest with people. And it's like, then you start to think about it. You know, when I do this, I don't want to think about it. When I get on this microphone, I don't want to think about it. I want it to come out as it comes up. Exactly. And that goes back to his name.

1:25:45 Growing up, I knew people with the last name. I'm from rural North Carolina. It was Du Bois, like with a hard do, like Du Bois. Now, like you said, French proper pronunciation, this is what Conway's saying, my corporate approved voice, it's Du Bois. You know, if I wanted to come across, and then you find yourself like somewhere in the middle, like what, well, I want to stay true to this, and I want to stay the true to this. I don't want to seem too educated. So I just want to let people know that this doing this, doing this work. Frees you. It frees me, but they also there's a weight there. So I had to back up.

1:26:30 And then I had to say, you know what? Let them rat me. You know what I'm saying? What you going to do to me? I mean, like, but I had started to think about it. And it's not like, oh, I'm going to change this. I'm going to do this. No, it was just like I had actually started thinking about it. Because when you tell people what you're doing, what you're working, they're like, oh, you know, family and friends and that kind of thing. Like, this is a heavy weight. And I just want to let people know. I mean, like, you get fatigued. I mean, you get tired. Well, when you, when you're not physically, when you're not being yourself, then, okay, I'm going to make a weird analogy for you, just because we're talking about Kanye.

1:27:12 When Kanye cannot be himself, he goes a little batshit crazy. When he can be himself, he does weird shit, but he's himself. And I think that's, that's what that's for him. And it may be some of it for you. I know it's for me, and I'll get back to that in a second. That's where the freedom comes from. My freedom came from not having a boss. And that's where most people learn how to put on a corporate voice or a corporate veil or some other mask. And you get good at it. And you get good at putting on a different mask for a different person.

1:27:56 And that was truly my corporate life. So I understand the concept. Having the feeling that you need to do that in regular discourse or on or at all, whether you're at work or not. It sucks. A lot of people have to do that. But this is an extra burden that I find. Well, it sounds to me like you've shed this burden just from. It's aware. It's aware. It's like, okay, it's like if you're walking on a tall building, are you standing on? a tall building. Once you look down, then it becomes real.

1:28:39 And the only thing I can equate it to is putting a mirror in front of another mirror. And you get this infinite loop of reflections. Recursion. Because once you see yourself, yeah, recursion. Once you see yourself, then you see yourself as people see you. Then you see yourself as people see you as you've seen yourself. And it just keeps snowballing. So I was like, hold on, whoa, whoa. Let me stop for a minute. Let me figure out. Let me let me recalibrate. I'm just wanting to get people know. And it's, I think a break like this may need to happen at the end of every year. I mean, just so you can decompress, especially with the election and the weird times that's going on, and there's nothing certain.

1:29:21 And it's taxing on anyone who thinks at all. It's taxing. Right. Because I mean, and like, like I said, and it's, I just wanted to share that with people. You could probably open the door now. It's kind of hot. But I just want to share that with you. I appreciate you telling me. The only thing I'd say for the show next time, if something like that happens, let me know, you know, so then we can spin it up and get some TMZ love, man. We got to have you kind of going nuts and saying some crazy shit so we can get on the board here. I really appreciate what you're saying, Mo. And, you know, this was one of our first episodes.

1:30:02 And I'll open the door in a minute. I'm warm too. This is one of our first episodes. We talked about, remember when the black family visited my family in Maryland when I was like six. And my parents, you know, had given me some messages. And you and I found out that, you know, like their parents had clearly given them some messages. And it's like, behave right now and act proper and all that shit. You know. So your self-awareness and also 40, you know, it took me a while to figure some stuff out too. I'd say I didn't really figure stuff out until I was 50. You know what that's going to benefit? It's going to benefit your kids, man.

1:30:43 So that's a beautiful thing. You got parents who are free. Your kids are going to be free. And what I want to say is that that was the first time that really had ever happened to me because me in the outside world, I never co-switched at work. Right. How I talk to you is how I talk to everybody. But it was, like I said, just that seeing myself, the perception of me back, seeing that come back. It was like, oh, like, whoa, what's going on here? You know, and it's nothing major. But like I said, I just had to step away and like, whoa, let me. That's good. Okay, now I got it. You know, that kind of thing. Was that the same night? I'm back, baby. What? Was that the same night you lost your cell phone, Mo? When you figured it out? No, no, that was. That was good.

1:31:31 All right, getting hot in here. Let's open up that door. Let's get out of here. Hey, everybody. Sorry about that. Just a little break. Need to just have a little conference. Right. So, now we go to Karen Hunter and her show. She has a conversation with a couple of journalists, a journalist, and a lawyer, Ella Mistelle, and I forget the other person's name, but they talk about the Kanye vote. I believe that the 2016 blip that people think is an anomaly is not an anomaly at all. I think what Trump tapped into is something very powerful. He tapped into white male fragility and the notion of losing the power that you talked about.

1:32:14 The very power that you talked about, the power structure is crumbling. And Trump was speaking to that and made them feel like men, made them feel strong and powerful. That same drumbeat resonated with black men. Yep. So when we talked about, because I was looking at numbers, today is the anniversary of Barack Obama being elected to president, the first black president of the United States. Y'all do it as you may. This is a fact. When I looked at his exit numbers, 95 plus percent black people voted for him, men and women. With Trump, 15% of black men actually pulled a lever for Trump. I think it's going to be the same. And it's that Kanye group. It's that group that just the guys just called up that they feel not powerful anymore, that the world is shifting.

1:32:53 There's all of these different things going on. We got they's and thems now. I don't know what to do with that. We got women out there talking about they don't need us. We got this and this and that. And Trump is going to walk up the elevator with his wife behind him, not in front of him. He's not going, he's going to have the umbrella over him, not her. He calls women bitches. He tells them he can grab them by the pussy. He does all of the things that a lot of men just, maybe they don't do it, but they like that somebody can and be president. Right. Yeah. And listen, listen to this clip. I've never heard somebody. somebody get it so right and so wrong at the same time.

1:33:35 I agree. That's right. What she got right, the fact that there is a Kanye vote out there, there is a free thinking vote out there that says, you know what? What are you going to do to me? I mean, and that's the approach I've had and I still have. What are you going to do to me? I mean, I'm at to the point like, I'm 40 years old. You know what I mean? I'm getting to that point where I can really feel the way I've been feeling and be justified. When you get to a certain age, it's like, you know, dad's grumpier. I mean, I'm getting my grumpy old man on. So, um, what she got wrong is she says white male fragility, but then she doesn't say black male fragility. So, if black men are

1:34:21 experiencing the same thing white men are experiencing, wouldn't it be black male fragility? But she wouldn't say that because she knew she would get canceled over that statement. No, you're being so wrong. You've turned white in her eyes. Yeah, that's another point, but she was aware. We were talking about awareness that she couldn't string those words together. Right. Black male fragility. Oh, no, no. Because the black masculine aspect is very, very prominent. I want to say, I think that's the right word because that's, I mean, it's like that's for a black man, your masculinity is how you identify yourself. And that's why you're here with little Bootsy. It's like, man, what are you doing to your son? I mean, that's his manhood.

1:35:03 You know what I mean? Like, I mean, that's where this, that's where this is deeply rooted. And where, well, also, where she got it wrong was that they's and thems and nobody's worried about that. I mean, it is what it is. People choose, I mean, to me, people choose what they want to do. And they're grown as long as it's legal. I don't really care what they do. And a lot of people are like that. But they want to make us anti-woman and anti-everybody else. Yes. If we have, you know, the right to free thought. No, there's very disingenuous. This movement has definitely positioned black men as being super transphobic, more so than homophobic.

1:35:42 And I listen to Karen Hunter regularly ever since we started doing the show. I got Sirius XM in the car and she's on when I do grocery shopping. And like this clip here, and it was good for me to hear it again. There's many times that I listen to the Karen Hunter show and I think, you racist piece of crap. Like what she just said about white male fragility. I'm like, why don't I come show you my white male fragility? And what are you saying about me? It's really why is it? Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm sorry. No, no. Why is it that black men have to identify with the negatives of white men? Maybe we see a billionaire and an entrepreneur. No, no, no, no, no. They have to see the negative. I mean, that's the only thing that makes sense that they want to keep women in their place.

1:36:27 That's a good point. You know, she could have easily said, you know, see, Kanye and Trump are successful and alpha males and making lots of money and meaning something in the world. But that's not at all what it's about, according to her. Not at all. So that's the background on Kanye. We got to do the background before we get into the battle. So we have coming up, we have throwback block of clips from show 35, Take That Take That, where we deconstruct Diddy. And this is Diddy talks to Noema Camo about the black vote. The black vote is not going to be for free. We're going to have to see some promises. You know, what are we getting in return for our vote?

1:37:11 Nothing has changed for black America. And in order for us to vote for Biden, we can't be taken for granted like we always are because we're supposed to be Democrats or because people are afraid of Trump. It's whoever's going to take care of our community, whoever wants to make a deal. It's business at this point. You know, we can't trust politicians, you know. So we want to know very clearly, just like Trump made it clear that he wanted to build the wall. Biden needs to make it clear that he's going to change the lives and quality of life of black and brown people, or else he can't get the vote. I will hold the vote hostage if I have to. He said it here. Said it first.

1:37:51 Breaking news. Breaking news. Oh, Diddy was talking real tough. He's going to hold a black vote hostage. And in that show, I was like, I don't know. I mean, I wasn't, you've seen it before, but I wanted to hold out hope. Maybe, maybe he was ice cube. You know what I mean? Like, maybe he really meant what he was saying. But so that was 21, 22. 22 is Sam Roberts, talks with P. Diddy and DJ Who Kid. This is also on Sirius XM. And but. let's just jump right into the clip. I mean, you want to know what I want to know about. We've been talking about Donald Trump a lot. He's a fellow successful businessman, but now he's running for president.

1:38:35 Does he have the pumpy vote? Nobody has my vote right now. No, you actually stated that you think voting is a scam coming from vote or die and all that stuff. You do? No, no, that's what they ran with. I really said, I said that it's not. I thought the deal was very simple. I vote for you and you give me what I need. So it is. That's usually how it is. So when I got, you know, so I was for vote or die. I'm out there like you went hard. Yeah. I'm young people, young people, people of color, you know, color people.

1:39:12 But we had, that's part of the process. And, and, but, you know, I just, I just felt and still feel like, um, you know, for putting Obama in there, that we should have got more, you know, because we put him in there. But I'm not, you know, it ain't no beef. I'm not saying he did so. He did so many things. It's just, you know what I'm saying? Um now, corporate Diddy. Yeah. So did he, so Diddy did some weird pivots here. So Sam asked him, Did you say voting was a scam? And Diddy just pivots. Yeah. And like, I didn't say that. Oh, that's how they said I said that. He didn't say yes or no that he said that.

1:39:55 And then he goes on and says it's a simple deal. I mean, I'll vote for you and you give me what I want or need. Right. And it's important to have it in that order because with Ice Cube, they were like, hey, you come back. You vote for us. How are you doing? And then in hindsight, we see that call. Still, that hasn't happened to yet to Ice Cube. And then he goes really real soft, kind of a little slight job at Barack Obama, but very light. But then he pivots back, right? Because he's glad you picked up on that. He says, We should have got more, but no, no, no, no, no. Obama did many great things for us. Not according to Tavis Smiley, but we're still looking for Taddis. Tavis is gone, man. Anybody sees Tabby? Moon-based alpha. He's out.

1:40:40 We are going to find Taddis. We are going to find him. But a little nugget that I missed on the first time we played this clip. If you can go back to about the 32nd mark, and I'm going to just let you say what he says. And when he says, it's simple, simple deal. I vote for you. You give me what I need. Then the other guy says, well, that's usually how it works. If you want, I mean, like, except for you, Negroes. So, I mean, like, let's see here. Let's see it. I thought the deal was very simple. I vote for you and you give me what I need.

1:41:24 That's how it is. That's usually how it is. And I hired you in the way. You know, so when I got it, it's a joke. It's a running joke. And it's like, oh, ask him for some. Oh, please. Well, to be honest, it looks like if Joe prevails, I think these questions could be asked. What are you giving us over here? Oh, and that's where, and we're going to get to that. We're going to get to another. I have a whole episode on that topic. Everyone's got their hand out. Hey, where's my money? Where's my kids? Where's my stuff? Black Lives Matter, Joe. Joe done ghosted him. All right.

1:42:09 So this was 2016. And Diddy's like, oh, I don't know who I'm going to vote for. But then he still, you know, threw his support behind Hillary. I mean, in a roundabout way. So let's go back to Karen Hunter. And in this clip, we're going to talk about, she talks about what the black vote is worth. We support black candidates all the time, but somehow the message is not getting to the people because they're not showing up to vote. We just had a Houston representative on who was running. She lost in the primary. And I thought she would have been dynamic, but they're not showing up because they don't have faith. And they feel like 40, 50 years they've been asked to give up a vote with nothing in return.

1:42:50 And that's the retort. So it's hard to sit here every day and argue that you should just vote Democrat because we don't want another, you know, re-elected Trump. But what are we getting? There's no reparations on the table. I get that. You know, what policy should we be really pushing? I don't know, Drew, what you know, help me. And that's why you heard the guy laugh in the previous clip. Yeah, because 40 of 50 years asked to give your vote up for nothing in return. That's that's how it usually works, except for your group. But she doesn't even have an idea of what to ask for. No, no, no, no. She knows what to ask for because if you heard her say, she says, no reparations on the table, and I get that.

1:43:33 How do you get that? I mean, like, it's not, but that's saying, oh, we can't ask for that. That's literally what she's saying. So she doesn't know what to ask. That's exactly what she says. I get that. Like, she puts herself into the Democrats' shoes and back to double consciousness. You know what that is? That's her white male. White people will see her right. She sees how white Democrats will look at her for asking for reparation and she self-censors and self-answers herself by saying, I get that. And like I said, I love going back to the throwback clips. Maybe for some listeners, they're like, oh, why are you? But it's a lot there. No, no, no, no, no, no, don't ever clip. Don't ever think that because

1:44:15 even I'm going, oh, yeah. No, no, this believe me, this is the right way to go. This is the right path. But even when I listen to it, I'm like, how in the hell did I miss that? Or how did you know? Because I was so focused on what I was trying to highlight. Yeah. I'll tell you, how did I miss this? You got to listen to stuff in audio, man. That's the only when you're when you're off it, I mean, not in this case because it's Karen Hunter, but when you're doing YouTube, I have the same thing. You know, you're getting different information. Then you listen to it again in just audio when you can't be distracted by anything time and time again. Even these, I'm hearing it too. I'm hearing other things. It's even, it sounds fresh to me in some cases.

1:44:56 It's funny that you say that because I only listen to it in audio. I snag it in P3. Interesting. Then I listen to the audio and I, but I even then, and I have to listen to it over and over again, you know, to get the clips and I do my own edits. And if you, I want to say something to people when you hear the page turn. It's a beautiful sound. Yeah, I love it. That's me letting you know I edit the person that I'm clipping so it's not tricky, tricky editing. So I just want to let people know that as well to let you know that I'm jumping from one segment of the clip. Or if I didn't do that, you would have a three-minute clip to get all of it into a digestible morsel of goodness. So

1:45:41 that's Karen Hunter and what's a black word. And you hear it, even she devalues it. It's like, no reparation. Oh, I get that. I understand why they will never give us that. And with that kind of mentality, that goes to show you her mentality, Diddy's mentality. Like, oh, we can't ask for too much now. That kind of thing. And when you have a Kanye saying, I want it all, or when you have black people saying we want tangibles, you won't get our vote. We're crazy to them. Hey, when you're crazy to me, let me ask you a question. When you just say, oh, we can't be asking for that, right? Say that. Would you mind saying that for me again? The way you just said it? Oh, that was my, I know as you were saying, that's the

1:46:23 how can I say it? That is the what? What do we, what do we call that voice? That is the compliant black person voice. Like, oh, I don't want to upset the apple card. You know, that kind of thing. I mean, it's, and like I said, that's just a double. That's a, that's a, it's just slipping into a well, you know what it sounds like. To me, it's, you know, it's like driving Miss Daisy. So it's like a throwback to 30, 40. Yeah. Okay. No, that's that's exactly what I would say. We have not progressed. We have not progressed if this is going on. This is bad. But that's that's how when you listen to people like Jen Clyborne, Matt Clyborne, and not speak ill of the dead, but the uh,

1:47:09 what's his name? I get him mixed up. I know, and I get people get killed for that, getting them mixed up with um the guy from Baltimore. Uh, the one was in uh Selma and got his head busted off. Uh, John Lewis, yes. Yes, like, oh, we want good, we only want good trouble, you know, that kind of thing. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good. Thank you for explaining. That's what I thought, but I just wanted to stop and highlight it for a second. Yeah, I want to highlight that to people. When we hear people talk like that, oh, we can't get that. Well, I understand that. No, it's like you're going back. Like, what, what progress?

1:47:47 But then you want to talk about progress. It's like, if we have to tailor our request, ladies and gentlemen, you are witnessing the awakening of Mofax. He has come to, it's like a lotus flower blossoming into his own. That's what 40 years of living will do to you. Yeah, I'll tell you, man, I have very short pay. I've noticed my patience is growing very thin. But I've always thought I had an old soul. So, I mean, it's nothing new, but it's. I have very little patience for these people. And you know what? What we look like on time. I have to say this because I had an epiphany. Because to be fair to the Diddy's and the Karen Hunters and the Democratic voters of the world, black ones.

1:48:33 We use the analogy of Lucy with the football of they keep trying, Charlie Brown keeps trying to kick that football. And I had an epiphany. Charlie Brown knows she's going to move the football. He has to know it. It's not that he doesn't know that he's going to his belief that his foot is faster than her hand. No, no, no, no. That's not, that's not why he does it. Charlie Brown does that because he wants to stay in show business. He knows if he doesn't go for that ball, then she gets canceled. So he's, he's, he knows that he's in show business.

1:49:14 No, but so when I'm saying the analogy of that, they think, oh, we can really box them. They really need us this time. You know, that kind of thing. Oh, they never needed us more than they needed us now. Yeah. And yet and still, their foot, your foot will never be faster than her hands. But yet and still, their belief in their foot. And like I said, that may be a crazy man epiphany, but that's, I was watching Charlie Brown Christmas something. I was like, wow. Like, why does Charlie Brown keep trying to kick that football? And it's because he believes it, but they fall for every time. And that's that. They think that they can put the Democratic Party in a position where they're going to give them what they want.

1:49:57 And that's not how it works. Exactly. And that's what there's usually very little public discourse over. And we still have to see if Joe prevails. But, you know, where's the discussion really going to be about, okay, now what are you going to do for us? Because it seems like it's going to totally ignore everything. And I don't hear a lot of outrage. Well, they can't because they sold it so hard. This is where they paint theirself. Excuse me. This is where they paint themselves in the corner because it's like, we told you so. We told you this was going to happen. Ice Q told you this was going to happen. It's like, no, no, no.

1:50:39 Joe's going to call me back. Joe is going to call me back. Trust me. And Joe is not going to call you back. But let's progress toward the show. So now we have this is a New York Times special, Tom's Talk. And they had Sean Diddy Combs on, and he's going to talk about the victim mentality. You talk a lot about black excellence. What is black excellence and how is it different than white excellence or Asian excellence or anybody else? Yeah, there is a difference. There's a difference. It's a the difference is that we haven't really forcefully tapped into our excellence.

1:51:24 You know, sometimes you could possess magic of superpowers and you're afraid of them. You're afraid to tap into them. I remember Superman, he didn't really want to fly. He was scared, you know. And we have this magic about us that we were able to be brought over here to be treated the way we've been treated. And we still get up with love in our hearts now. Like, shit could be crazy. Pain is pain. We get up with love in our hearts. And we still have to deal with that pressure, you know. Like it's fucked up. You hear it all the time. It sounds cliche, but yeah, you black, you wake up. Damn, you know, some fucked up shit could happen to me today.

1:52:07 It don't, no matter who you are, you know, and that's a hard way to live, live in fear, you know, and to live like that. And what was the question? Yeah. He got so wrapped up in the victimization mentality, he forgot the question. Now, I want to, it's a couple things I want to talk about. One, can we go back and listen? Which is the first 10 seconds. When he talks about black excellence, this super liberal crowd laughs. I heard it. I heard that. You talk a lot about black excellence. What is black excellence and how is it different than white excellence or Asian excellence or anybody else? Yeah, there is a difference. What's funny about that?

1:52:53 Let me listen one more time. Let me see if I can figure out why this crowd is laughing. I'm listening in. You talk a lot about black excellence. Now, there was something before that they were probably already in some kind of comedic timing because they're coming into this laughing in the audience. You talk a lot about black. black excellence. What is black excellence and how is it different than white excellence or Asian excellence or anybody else? Yeah, yeah, see, no, you're right. It's purely about the racial part of it. Why is that funny? Once again, when you re-listen to things, you hear the things like, what's so funny about black excellence?

1:53:34 I mean, well, hello, they're laughing at us, people. And what audience is this now? This is the New York Times. This is a super liberal New York function. Okay, let me take a stab at it. I don't think the hardcore conservatives are going to come to come see Diddy. Let me take a stab at it. When you segregate and say black excellence, how is it different from Asian excellence? How is that different? I think it's nervous laughter that they're like, oh, maybe. Oh, my gosh. Segregating. You know, maybe something like that.

1:54:19 A New York Times audience, I can see them. Nervous laughter. That's what I think it is. I'm never going to lead you. So this is how we, this is what we do. We look at something and we see it two different ways. And I just, I just find it strange. That's a strange point to laugh at. Now, I had to talk about it, folks. Superpowers. Did you see black people getting their superpowers trending on Twitter, Adam? Have I seen the black people get the superpowers trending on Twitter? No, I've not. No. No, I don't know what you're talking about. Oh, that's why I was at too. That's why I was at too. I was getting my superpowers. December 21st. This is from the, and it was actually trending on the

1:55:01 socials. This is from The Root, an open letter to black people about your upcoming superpowers. Oh, my. So it says, yes, by now, you should have received your certified letter informing you that people of African descent will receive superpowers on December 21st when June, Jupiter, and Saturn align for the first time in nearly 400 years. According to researchers at Twitter University University of Twitter, this will unlock the melanated magic in black people. Granted themselves never before seen gifts beyond the ability to clap on beat and resist dumping artichoke into potato salad. Now, this is from the root. Wow.

1:55:45 How do it get better? How do I get better? I had to talk about it. I told you, this is a potluck, folks. We got to talk about it. Clap on beat. Yes. It says, to do this, they're talking about how they're going to best practices for operating system update to do this. The National Institute for Genetic Gifts and Astronomic Superpowers. Don't say it, please. I don't want 56 to be the last episode of MoFats Occurs. I want to say it. But y'all just, yeah, National Institute for Genetic Gifts and Astronomic Superpowers.

1:56:24 All right. So the acronym, y'all just worked that out for yourself. Anyway, who said this? Who gave us this acronym? The roots. The root. Oh, my God. Okay, the root. Oh, man. Yeah. No, no, I'm just saying is this is this is what this is what you know. Um, and then, but, but wait, wait. I'm just going to paraphrase the rest of the you cannot use your superpowers to hurt, harm white people. Well, thank goodness. Thank goodness. No, I'm just saying, I'm just saying that these super radical woke people is like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on. The root is owned. You can't go too crazy now. We're going to give you superpowers. But no, this was a real thing that was trending in

1:57:09 supposedly in astronomy that black people would get their superpowers. And maybe I got my superpower not giving a rat. Well, hold on a second. Hold on a second. Maybe your superpower, you just unwrapped it a little later and it came a week or so ago. Maybe, maybe your awakening was your superpower. I'm not going to now. Now I can't discredit this. You know, the winter solstice with Jupiter and what the hell? And Saturn converging. A lot of people think that was very mystical and magical. Yeah. I see the humor in what they're doing, but also, also,

1:57:49 very cringe-worthy. Yeah. Very cringe worthy. So let's get back to the victimization mentality. You hear Diddy, he got so caught up in just being a victim, he lost his train of thought. So that brings us back to the throwback clip 55. Mind trap. Traps with Clay Scroggins. How do you stop these mindsets from becoming mind traps? No one likes feeling trapped. Can you remember the last time you were trapped? The problem is we have these thoughts, and our thoughts, fortunately and unfortunately, can create feelings, feelings both in the here and the now. And it's not necessarily what happens to you, but it's the messages that you give yourself about what happens that determines your feelings.

1:58:33 And not only do our thoughts create all of our feelings, but the thoughts that defeat us are almost always fraudulent or wrong or distorted or illogical. And sometimes they can form a cycle, a mentality that becomes a trap. So how do you know? How do you know when a mindset has become a mind trap? There's an ancient Greek philosopher named Epictetus who said this: that we are disturbed not by things, but by the view in which we take of them. We think it's the circumstances that are depicted that are disturbing us, but no, it's our view of them that's actually disturbing us.

1:59:18 So, this is where, and it's more in the verses theme. This is where people who think like Diddy get upset with people that think like Kanye because Kanye won't subscribe to the victimization mentality. He is not conditioned by his thoughts. And I want to go back to, yeah, so yeah, you know, if you think lack, then you will, you have lack, right? You know, if you think prosperous, you receive prosperity. So, that's what drives the wedge between these two groups because it's like, and because they have to explain it because they're like, we're both black, he's thriving, I'm not.

1:59:59 He has to be selling out. Where it's really your mentality and your mindset that's holding you back. I'm not saying this, that's what Gucci Man said. That's right. Now, you take that up with Goof because he said, I went, he said, when I was in jail, I had to realize I was a victim of my own thoughts. And this is where the verses. Now, we ring the bell, please. Now, this is here we go. So, you know, I don't mind ringing the bell, but I don't like the bikini that I have to wear when I walk the sign around for the round.

2:00:42 I don't like the mental picture that you just gave me, please, man. Thank God it's a three-round fight. So, anyway, so you saw Diddy's, he gets so wrapped up in the victimization mentality. So, now we want to go back, show 13, listen to Kanye's take on the victimization mentality. I've been canceled, I've been canceled before they had canceled culture. I was canceled before they had the term. Do you care about any of that? I do. I care about everything. Does it not rub you the wrong way, but does it get to your core when people do?

2:01:25 Definitely don't rub me the right way. This definitely ain't gonna Johnny Gill. What do you say to people that say you turned your back on the culture or exactly 100%? I have turned my back on the idea of victimization mentality. We are locked up. We went from one and four. We went from one and four to one and three, but we always pointing at the white people, but yet we want to spend all of our money on foreigns. We want to spend all our money on luxury as opposed to going and buying some land.

2:02:01 America is for sale, and there's a lot of barren land. Disney bought a lot of it in Florida, but the culture has you focus so much on fucking somebody, bitch, and pulling up in a foreign and rapping about things that could get you locked up, and then saying you about prison reform. Like, it's bro. We brainwashed out here, bro. Come on, man. This is a free man talking. Democrats had us voting Democrats for food staffs for years, bro. What is you talking about? Guns in the 80s, taking the fathers out the home, plan B, lowering our votes, making us abort our children.

2:02:46 God should not kill. I can't tell y'all how to feel, but what I can tell you honestly is how I feel. Powerful. Yeah. And he said in the air. there, something I didn't catch before: the culture who defines the culture, media because we don't have a culture, you know, they've destroyed that. They reshaped it. Like, I always say this: they took black. The black, black was created around 1960, well, made prominent around 1960. You mean the market, the marketing, the marketing of the concept of black, right?

2:03:26 They took it with black exploitation films and reshaped it to something: pimps, hoes, perms, coke, big Cadillacs, you know, snazzy suits, that kind of thing. And the culture, which is shaped by the media, as Kanye said, has you focused on maintaining the mind trap. This is why you hear wall-to-wall, 24-7, violent, sexually promiscuous, unhealthy habit music.

2:04:03 It maintains the culture. The culture maintains the mind trap. And just so you know, that mind trap of the cultural mind trap is extremely exportable. It has an entire class of young people trapped. The woke. That's what always happens. That's what I never understand the psyche of these people. You bring cocaine, crack cocaine in, your kids are in rehab. Yeah. You think it's not going to bleed over? Yeah. You don't, but now I'm just going to say, maybe they, and this is a thought I have. Maybe they rationalize it. Well, if it kills our weak, so be it. It strengthens our race.

2:04:47 Now, when you say they, who are you considering? Maybe the big they. Okay, then. The big they. Well, they. Mo, the big they don't give a crap about you or me, no matter what your color or culture. Ultimately, that's my point. I do not give a crap. Yeah, we're pawns. We're pawns in that for sure. Yeah. Well, if you are, if you are allowed to eat fast food and cure yourself, maybe you don't deserve to live. If you're dumb enough to use fentanyl and these other prescription drugs, maybe you don't deserve to live. Well, okay, there's something strengthening our strengthening our race.

2:05:25 There's something to be said for that. The problem is that the fentanyl, there's no difference between the fentanyl and the McDonald's. It's both part of the same machine. And now we know who the machine sweeps up first, but particularly fentanyl, you know, these things became a problem for white people, for poor white people. So the machine doesn't give a shit. The machine is more fun with McDonald's because, you know, you die slow and you enjoy the burger on the way. The fentanyl. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you're missing the big. Well, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, I'm not missing the point.

2:06:08 You can't skip over the biggest point of eating a healthy, the pharmaceuticals. Oh, no. Well, exactly. Yes, thank you. But that's what I mean. It's still all part of the same mission. And perhaps we need to look at it more in the context of black people always go first and we're stupid enough to follow. But that's the vaccine, right? That's what they're trying to do with the vaccine. We get black people to take it, maybe make a nice rap song about it, you know, nice little tune. Well, unfortunately, what it's done has an adverse effect because, you know, now it's so easy to say, well, I don't want to jump in line.

2:06:52 I mean, I think I'll step back and I'll make sure that most family has it because, you know, it affects his family more than mine. That's the kind of shit you're going to get. If they all, if they look at us all as winners and losers, that's how they look at it. That's my perception of it. We don't care who the winners and losers are. Kanye, great. Great for him. He's free thinking. It doesn't matter. All they want is just someone to move their agenda forward. Right. I mean, not only that, but they want to get rid of the useless eaters. Let's just be one. Let's keep it 100. It's like, let's get them up out of here. Fentanyl that does the job fast. Fast food. Well, we need to sell these pills to somebody for high blood pressure and

2:07:35 diabetes and all this other stuff. This is the mindset of the only way you can break free is to break free mentally. And it's so off-putting by people that are in a mind trap. Like, have you ever had somebody you smile and somebody asks you, why are you smiling for? What are you so happy about? Sure. Maybe you haven't. Sure. I have ex-wives, Moe. Yes, I've been through this. Why you look so happy? That's the approach they're looking at. That's what they're looking at with Kanye about. What he's so happy about, you know? I'm in this mental trap, and he's not. Come back. So I think we stopped off at 26. So now this is where we get into the new material.

2:08:20 And this is Kanye West with Nick Cannon. This is right after Nick Cannon got himself into hot water. So yeah, he was. I don't know what Nick was thinking. He touched the third rail, man. Yeah, touched the third rail. You can't talk that talk and be on mainstream TV. What do you think about Nick? But yeah, if you get kicked off YouTube, you know you're going to get kicked off a Fox. Come on now. He knows better than that. This is Nick Cannon's class with Kanye West. When you remove the fear of God, the fear and love of God, you create room for the fear and love of everything else. Let's get to life. In 50 years,

2:09:05 there's been 22 million, over 22,500,000 black people aborted strategically and on purpose. Planned Parenthood was set up and placed in minority communities to kill black people. You're talking about when Margaret Sanger, the originator of Planned Parent in the Time, because a lot of people, when you say things like that in their defense, they say, well, Planned Parenthood today is a different organization. Here we go. But what can we do to deny these facts that Yay is about to give you right now?

2:09:49 Here we go. Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood, was an avowed racist whose goal was to reduce the black population in America, and she succeeded. 80% of abortion clinics in America are in minority neighborhoods. Over 22,500,000 black babies have been aborted in 50 years. Over 1,000 black babies are aborted every day. So that means we are inside of it as we speak. This is genocide. So wait. We are inside of genocide as we speak. You know what gets me about this particular story?

2:10:31 When you were in your late 20s, I was talking about this on the podcast. I was talking about the history, Margaret Sanger, the Eugenics Society of America. And I was told to shut up because you are, you're misogynistic. You're anti-woman. You don't want women to have access to health care, whatever the framing of it is. For 13, 14 years, this has been denied, denied as a conspiracy theory, Mo. If I went and looking for emails and articles, I could show it all to you. And only recently, only in the past few years, has this come up to the

2:11:15 it's to the point so this is why I view it as a good thing because now these stories are starting to come out 20 you know 13 years ago less internet now we have a lot more internet more people are talking about but now the planned parenthood has taken sanger's name off of buildings because now they now the cat's out of the bag so yeah but if you notice nick cannon tried to uh kind of buffer the facts he's like that's that's that was planned parenthood then and they do good things for women now right well that's the new way he knew where kaye was headed yeah that's the talking point right he had to come in because nick cannon yeah nick cannon

2:12:02 is a democratic supporter so he knew kaye was coming with the heat so he had to come in and run uh interference but then he comes back around and calls it genocide now genocide is an act of war yeah it's a way of war and that leads us into the next clip with uh diddy talking to charlamagne the god about his uh evolving political views you sparked a crazy conversation when you told everybody to hold their vote yeah i want to see where you at with so

2:12:39 a couple of months i told everybody hold a vote hostage a lot of things have gone on since then none of us expected i think this president has done a great job of rattling America. When you move in fear, you don't have any leverage. The way I felt before is the way I still feel. Things have got too serious of a point. Seeing what's going on, white men like Trump need to be banished. That way of thinking is real dangerous.

2:13:22 This man literally threatened the lives of us and our families about going to vote. Stand back and stand by. Stand back and stand by. We're in a war. We're not taking this like it's a war. We're taking this like, oh, we're in a presidential election. We're in a war of love versus hate. The number one priority is to get Trump out of office. The tribe of people that have the responsibility and really should be scared to death for this man is white people. Wow. Boy,

2:14:05 let's take it from the top. Yeah, please. First, Charlamagne, Charlamagne says, you sparked a crazy conversation by asking. Now, this is Diddy's words. He said it was a simple deal. I vote for you. You give me what I need. That's a crazy conversation. Compared to Charlamagne that got what are you asking? You're asking for something? That's crazy. That's revolutionary. What? That's the usual. That is the usual. Then he says, when you move in fear, you know, you lose leverage. But back on clip 24, his whole thing is, oh, we wake up every morning, but we're going to be killed.

2:14:49 So, what happened here? What do you mean? Fix it. Fix it. Fix this. Or, or that's the best case scenario. Or Diddy was laid as a herd him over here, Diddy, and then do the swap. Because he's throwing out, you know, I'm holding up vote hostage at the same time with tangibles and no tangibles, no vote, reparations. That conversation. Here comes Diddy. Oh, I'm holding a vote hostage at the last hour to, you know, at the final hour to do this weird pivot.

2:15:31 And then he says, white men like Trump. Last time I checked, listen, this is where you always stump a black Democrat supporter. What's the difference between Trump and Biden? Four years. When you ask him that, no, I'm just saying, when you ask him that, their brain fries, like, ah, ah, ah. Well, you know, Biden's nice when he says, oh, oh, that's it. That's it. It's got to be nice. Right. Yeah, he's going to give you that nice genocide. I was like, what? The humane genocide. Yeah, the humane genocide. And then he goes on, we're in war. And that's why I played the clip from Kanye saying

2:16:12 Kanye is actually pointing out, I mean, just by the definition. And if you look at the definition of genocide, it's the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation. Just by the definition of it, I think that fits. Now, I'm not saying what the motives are. I mean, that's not for me to say. I mean, because you could look at it several different ways. And I'm not even getting to the politics of pro-life versus pro-choice. But when you have one guy here pointing out facts, facts, hardcore facts have been proved. Like you said, you've been saying it for, you know, what, 20 years, 13 years? Yes, 13 years. These are facts. And then you have this guy, Diddy, come out. We're in a war. A war of love versus hate.

2:16:57 What? What are you talking about? That's not. Yeah. Well, it gets better. Please. I just want to say that. Please. I just want to listen to the last five seconds. The number one priority is to get Trump out of office. The tribe of people that have the responsibility and really should be scared to death for this man is white people. Hold on, Adam. Yeah. This is how good I know you. Play 29. The number one priority is to get Trump out of office. The tribe of people that have the responsibility and really should be scared to death for this man is white people.

2:17:41 Explain. If this man is elected. elected, we're not standing by no more getting killed. We're not scared of anybody standing up and standing by. We're on the verge of a race war. If people in America want a race war, they'll not vote. I'm an independent, first of all. When I vote, I try to do what's best for my community. Let's be clear on that. You're not standing behind your decision to hold your vote anymore. You want people to go out there and vote. It would be irresponsible of me to hold our vote hostage.

2:18:26 But it would also be irresponsible of me to just let this moment go by. The world is watching and not do everything I can to make sure that going forth that we're a part of the narrative, that we own our politics. And so I'm launching one of the boldest movements that I've ever launched. And it's called Our Black Party. Okay. It's time for us to have our own Black political party. Unapologetically. Because right now, if you look at the debates, we're not even a part of the conversation. Not at all. We're not a part of the conversation. We don't have any political power. We don't have any political leverage. Wow. It's like a way to go and try and muscle in on

2:19:11 Kanye. Oh, you're doing it wrong. Yeah, we gotta, I gotta lead the political party. So let's start from the end and go back to the beginning. All right. So can you venture on over to ourblackparty.com? It was this nice little exercise that we like to do on the show. And while you do that, I'm here. Yeah. So you see what the contribute button over there? You want to click on that? Oh, you always want to click on that. This is the fun game. You scroll down to the bottom and you see, okay, where's this money going to go to? You scroll down and it says, oh, no, it's Axe Blue.

2:19:52 What? Yeah, this is basically the Democrats. That's your Black Political Party. That's not Democratic Party Party. It's the Democratic Party. Our Black Party. Oh, brother, brother, brother. And it's actually, it goes straight to the, it's even the Act Blue website. They didn't even obfuscate it on their own website. Brother. No. And then, okay, so that's that. I just wanted to start there so you can, the rest of what I'm going to say. He says, if Trump wins, we're not going to just stand by. We're on the verge of a race war. All right, Diddy. Since we're on the verge of a race war, GBG, baby. Yeah, right? Get black's going to be. Cool them out. That's right. Let's stock up.

2:20:37 You talk all this talk, and then you're going to be in a helicopter flying somewhere if it really does kick off and leave your people to be slaughtered. But this, this is. And this is why I have no respect for Diddy. Let me calm down. While you're calming down. So, but I got to know who talked to him and what the heck did they say to him? Because I hadn't heard this before. That's that's pretty out there. Yeah. Thank you. That's pretty out there, man. It's like, we're on the verge of a race war. Okay. Yeah. It gets better though. We're ground zero, Mo, right here. We're starting that race war.

2:21:16 You and me. Come on. Let's go at it. Yeah. Here we go. And then it sounds, if it gets even better than that, because Charlamagne the God says, yeah, we're not part of the conversation. Bro, you had every Democratic nominee on your show. You could oppress them. Joe Biden told you, if you ain't black, you ain't black if you don't vote for him. And you're talking about the lack of representation and not being part of the conversation. Man, get out of here. And then Diddy goes on to say, he says, if people in America want a race war, they'll not vote.

2:21:56 Now, digest that again. I'm going to say it again. I want you to process what he just said. If people in America want a race war, they'll not vote. Who is he talking to? I don't understand. I don't understand. Who is he talking to? I'm explaining to you. Let me break it down to you. Please. He said, if people in America want a race war, they'll not vote. He can't be talking to white voters. He can't be talking to truck holders because if you don't vote, then Biden wins.

2:22:36 He's scaring black people to the polls. if people, you know, no, if people don't vote, then Trump wins, you mean? No, no, no, no, no. No, that's not what he said. He said, if people, and that's why I said, well, I had to listen to it. Oh, I was like, what? All right, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. Let's listen to it again. Let's just listen to it again. We're not scared of anybody standing up and standing by. We're on the verge of a race war. If people in America want a race war, they'll not vote. If they want a race war, they'll not vote. Yes.

2:23:16 Yeah. Well, so you can't be talking about Trump supporters. You can't talk about Biden support. I mean, he's talking to black people. Right. If you want a race war, then don't vote. Don't vote. That's what he's saying. These are the fear tactics. This is the mind trap. You think that's pretty blatant. How sick is that? No evidence of it, really. I mean, other than a whole bunch of hoaxy, very fine people stuff. And he pulls this rabbit out of the hat. Now, I'm surprised that that didn't get more traction. Yeah. At least not on white Twitter. No, this is what we this is what we get.

2:23:59 Yeah, you need to upgrade it. You need to upgrade your celebrities, man. They suck. Well, they're not allowed. Hello, who creates the culture? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Remember the culture? Yeah. Yeah. We don't create the culture. They pick what they feed us. And that goes to more back to what we need more land. We need cyberspace more than land. But I mean, yeah, they pick what is trending on for us. They pick what's on the top two, top 10 on Google and what's suggested in YouTube and that kind of thing. But this is how they talk to us. Y'all, you want to die? Do you want to be hanged by the KKK? Don't vote. Wait a minute. I have, in fact, I have someone saying just that.

2:24:45 You might die. There you go. Oh, yes. Thanks, Barry. So now we're going to wrap up with this Diddy and his scare tactics with the final clip: Political Party 3. Our Black Party's number one goal is to unify behind a black agenda. That's it. You could be a part of the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, you could be an Independent. But if you're Black, you wasn't born Republican. You wasn't born Democrat. You wasn't born independent. You were born black. And we have to seize our political power because it'll just be more the same.

2:25:25 Being pushed this way, being pushed that way. And we're expecting a different result. But the definition of insanity is like doing the same thing over and over the same way, expecting a different result. And it's not going to happen. So we have to change the tone. We got to start with us stepping up and really taking the responsibility and accountability to be a part of this political movement. The hardest part of that is going to be getting other black people to buy into life. This is not for all black people. You know what I'm saying? This is not for the scary ones. This is for the ones that want to move things forward and want to get to the smoke.

2:26:02 A black person spends an average of like five hours on Instagram a day. If you could give Instagram that time 15 minutes, 15 minutes you could give to educating yourself. And our black party's that platform. We've never played this game. It's another level of gangster. But I played this game before. You know, I started in 2004 with voted die, and this is the evolution of that thought. Wow. Now, was he taking ownership of our black party? Yes. Wow. This is our platform.

2:26:42 But then he goes on and said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different outcome. But I've been doing this since 2004 who voted I. Hello. Listen to the agenda of our black party. Defunding the police, guaranteed income for all, decriminalize poverty, which actually means something else. That means we are calling on local governments to stop making crimes of the very quality of life issues they should be working to fix. It's like low-level stealing. Yeah, you can steal. Yeah, $100,000. Yeah. Oh, that's Los Angeles. You know, there are chain stores like QVC and it's empty.

2:27:26 Just because people come in, take everything. It's gone. They don't stock them anymore. Address racism in healthcare. Well, they're doing that. They're giving you that COVID jab. jab. Yay. Grow black business. See what that means. Oh, that means give us money. Governments at all levels spend billions of dollars each year through contracts with small businesses and black businesses. Do not have an equitable share of this spending. We demand more from the government. The 1,000. You familiar with the 1,000? No. What kind of black guy are you? You're not in the party. You're not in the party. The 1,000, this is a meme.

2:28:05 A so-called one. A so-called black person. We have seen that a system run by people who are not committed to the black agenda will pass and support laws that undermine black existence. We will elect at least 1,000 black people to positions of power at every level of the government that support the black agenda. Oh, yeah. I guess. Yeah, I haven't seen that. Statewide equity officers. This is that's actually to what is this state laws and programs are developed without considering the impacts on black people. We demand that governors of all 50 states appoint a cabinet-level advisor to ensure that all state programs are developed with an equity and justice lens. High quality and affordable education and then legalize marijuana.

2:28:51 Oh, that's always in the black agenda. Black people need our weed. That's what they talk. That's how they it's gonna let you out of jail, give you some free money, and get all the weed you can smoke. It's positioned this a little differently. You don't mind if I do this, do you? Because I find this super, I do not mind at all. I do not. Marijuana is now a growing and lucrative industry for many. So this is like, this is your, here's your 40 acres and a mule, Moe. Get your weed on, man. You can grow this shit. Make some money. Historically, black peoples, that's interesting. Black peoples, that doesn't mean Ados. When you say black peoples,

2:29:27 that is, that's not ADOS, man. That's something else. So it says, historically, black peoples, plural, have been the victim of unjust laws and further barred from participation in this market. What do you mean? I've bought all my weed from black guys. This is a lie. We demand that all states legalize marijuana, immediately release all prisoners held for marijuana-related offenses, and expunge the criminal record of those with past convictions and violations. So I don't have a problem with marijuana. I don't have a problem. Certainly smoking a plant, whatever, should you not be in jail for that. But to say, hey, this is your, this is literally what they're saying.

2:30:08 This is your, this is your future business. That I find disturbing. And there's even a whole and one more thing. When you said the people's thing, something came to my mind. And I ran across it, but it was not a clip available. A new term. Folks. Well, not a new term, but yeah. Is it bad? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It is none. It's new. F-O-L-X. Folks. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Black folks. Folks. Really now. No, because with the gender. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I get it. I get it. I get it. I get it. Wow.

2:30:50 Yeah. So watch for that to crop up. When you saw when you said peoples, that made me think of that. But I mean, this is what we're talking about here. Our black party is our blue party. And News Flash Diddy, if you are born, you are born. If you're black, you are born a Democrat. It is what it is. You have to work your way off that plantation. As far as I'm concerned, Diddy is an alcohol salesman. Yeah. Seriously. Yeah, seriously. Seriously. Don't talk about how alcohol destroys. No, no, no, no. We'll have none of that. Let's talk about that. Well, he should be held to account for this.

2:31:35 That's really not okay. I had no idea. And I always kind of like Diddy. I mean, I didn't have a real problem with him, but now, wow, man. What are you pushing? I'm going to tell you what Diddy did. Diddy did what Diddy does. He sampled. He watched a few YouTube videos. Yes, right. Race war. Black Russian. He sampled it. That's so right. Wow. That's good. Yeah. He's a plagiarist. Yeah. That's what, that's what he did. And he put a hosh posh together. And my question is: where was his support for Ice Cube? You said it was a, it was, was, it wasn't personal. It's business. So that was business. Yeah. Hey.

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2:42:09 Go to mofax.com. Direct to the donation page, mofundme.com, M-O-U-F-U-N-D-M-E.com. Thank you again. It's really appreciated. So we couldn't do a versus or a potluck without doing some sports. Do I get to ring the bell yet? Wait till I announce it. Okay. Michael Air Jordan versus LeBron King James. Brown Tree. I was proud of our players that we not only were playing the game of basketball, we were also having discussions every single day about what's going on in the communities from police brutality to the racism that's going on to voter suppression.

2:42:57 And obviously, as you talked about, there were a lot of things going on off the court. Unfortunately, while you guys were in the bubble, we obviously had what took place in Kenosha. And the season that was already going on was pretty close to stopping, right, LeBron? You guys were close to calling it quits and walking away. Yeah, we were. You know, it was funny because Milwaukee was playing Orlando that day. And then I believe OKC and Houston was the next game. And then our game was the last game. I think it was us versus Portland. So, you know, when Milwaukee did what they did, and rightfully so, we understood that there was no way that none of us can go on the floor. We stand as a brotherhood. We are a brotherhood in our league. And we stood with the Milwaukee Bucks and what they wanted to do.

2:43:39 But there was a time where we were ready to leave too. The Lakers, myself included, we were ready to leave. And we were trying to figure out if we leave or if we stay, what is our plan? What is our call for action? And I'm lucky enough to have a friend, you know, the 44th president that allowed me and allowed CP and allowed us to get on the phone with him and get guidance. You know, when there's things going on, when it's chaos, where people don't know which move to make or how to handle a situation, the best thing you can do is have someone that you can talk to and give you guidance and have that type of leadership. All right. So the backstory on this one. So you have young versus old.

2:44:22 And it's actually in reverse of the Tyson versus Bootsy. Right. You have the young guy coming after the old guy, being LeBron coming after Michael Jordan. And the backdrop of this is when Jacob Blake got shot seven times in Kenosha, the NBA, the Milwaukee Bucks, decided to strike. Right. They said, we're not playing. Well, I'm going to tell you now. LeBron said he was close to calling it quits. No way. LeBron needs a fourth and fifth and sixth ring to be compared to the game.

2:44:59 Oh, yes, of course. Of course he needs that. Yes, obviously. So he was, there's no way in hell he was going to leave that bubble to win another championship at LA to boycott the season and for other reasons as well. You had, so he says Obama convinced him to play on. I call BS on that. Yeah. I think he called Obama. Well, we're going to get that goggle. He was doing so well. Sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry. You're future gazing.

2:45:43 So the Milwaukee Bucks threw him a curveball. They're like, we're boycotting. We're done. We're not playing. You know, is this the right thing to do? And allegedly, Obama convinces him to play on. Now, in 33, we'll listen to Obama and what he said to LeBron. You know, the conversation we had was along the lines LeBron spoke about. Protest is useful in terms of raising awareness, but given the power that the NBA players had, my suggestion was that you use that platform to see if you can start asking for some specifics.

2:46:23 This isn't something that's just a one-off. Sadly, what we've seen is it happens again and again. So one of the suggestions I had for the players was, is it possible for you guys to set up an office that allows you on an ongoing basis to take best practices that are going to start making incidents like this less likely. As I told him, though, it's not going to be solved overnight. This is something that you've got to stay on. You've got to keep on moving. And so the fact that LeBron has also been working with more than a vote, working with my outstanding partner and the most popular Obama, Michelle Obama,

2:47:05 in getting people registered, getting them educated, understanding the connection between voting and reform so that you combine protests. protest and go into the polls. You know, I think that's that's been the best outcome possible. Now, it was working with Mike on his on his alley oop. More than a vote. Okay. Go ahead, Mo. Another one I got to look at. Another one I got to look at. Yeah. So Obama says protest is a good thing, but don't just protest. Vote. Vote. My legacy. Right.

2:47:45 My vote. My legacy. So Disney, Black Lives Matter, and big corporations weren't allowed the NBA to boycott. Let's just keep it. Let's just keep it. Of course not. Of course not. Right. Secondly, how in the hell can NBA players stop police from shooting people? I don't understand. I mean, like, what do they think they could do? Well, they have a special office. They got a special office they can go to and talk about it. Yeah, we're going to get to that special office. So then, more than a vote. And that more than a vote, are you at the website now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you go now to Protect Home Court?

2:48:27 Do you see that? I was looking at Kevin Hart being on this. That was kind of interesting. Oh, no, we're going to be very specific on this one. Protect Home Court. Can you read what that says? Hold on a sec. Protect. Why don't I see this? We are. Oh, Protect Home Court. Arena voting and discounted rides to the polls. Yes. Oh, my God. It's literally this is an old, old, old union trick. Well, don't worry. We're going to drive you to the poll. Wow. Hold on.

2:49:10 It gets better. It gets better. This is an article, I think, from Huffington Post. Let me make sure that's right. No, this is for NBC Sports. LeBron James voting rights group converting arenas into polling places. Right. I go down. Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah. Now you know where I'm going with this. More than a vote, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In Georgia, Fulton County election officials this week approved the Atlanta Hawks proposal to use State Farm Arena as a polling site. Plans to call them for the arena to serve as the

2:49:48 countywide early voting site ahead of election day. Do you remember this state forum arena being in the news recently? Yes. Was this some was this votes being slipped around back and forth out of a suitcase? Yeah, Huffington Post. Surveillance tape of voting count, vote counting, breeding false claim, false fraud claims in Georgia. Hmm. Well, now. So this is what the NBA asked for: polling places. Do you see what's going on here? Of course. I did not know that that's how that, you know, it wasn't hidden, but it wasn't, but it wasn't advertised.

2:50:33 They said, wow, that's good, Moe. Yeah. All right. So let's go on to clip 34. You know, when you think about the history of African-American athletes, you know, dating back to Jack Johnson, the boxer, and then you've got Jackie Robinson, and you've got Mohammed Ali. You've got folks like Bill Russell in the NBA, Arthur Ash in tennis. And then for a while, I think there was a suspension of activism, right? Because I think for a time, the African-American athlete started thinking in terms of contracts, money, shoe deals, et cetera.

2:51:16 And to see this new generation without fear in speaking their mind and their conscience, I think you guys are setting the tone for a lot of young people coming up and a lot of other athletes in other leagues. Wow. Man, this is beautiful how it's all connected. You got the shoe deal. You got, and Obama is deep in this. He threw Michael Jordan completely under the bus. That's what he talked about shoe deals. Yeah. That's what that's what they're so basically saying. We were suspended. You know, basically, no action was taken with that generation of Michael Jordan because they were too concerned about their revenue shoe deals and contracts.

2:52:01 Wow. Which, yeah. So now we go into that's his homeboy, too. That's his homeboy. That's Chicago. Chicago. Is it? Well, hey, I only started following NBA this year, so I'm just spouting. The competition Obama has is the most famous black man in the world is probably Michael Jordan. Underhanded. This is big. This is big. When I heard this, I said, This is a weasel weasel way. Hey, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Didn't Obama go and do a three-pointer? Was that in the darn arena where he did that? Right before the election?

2:52:46 That was in, I think, in Michigan. Oh, okay. It was in the arena. That was the basketball thing, right? Yeah. But it was basically, oh, yeah, let me take it. Hold on a second. I mean, isn't that also part of this? Like, hey, look at me, Mike. Yeah. Oh, gosh. Yeah, he had to get to get back in that Blackberry. Blackberry is about when he was in the White House, he was playing golf all the time. But when he's running, campaigning, he breaks out the round ball. Like, I gotta get Black Berry though. Yeah. Because we talked about it on another show. Yeah. So, just to make people say, oh, well, Moe, he didn't say Mike specifically.

2:53:29 Yeah, right. Everybody knows about the Michael Jordan. Republicans buy sneakers too. He's 35. Jordan officially coming out and admitting that he said Republicans buy sneakers too was, I thought, a pretty iconic admission by him. He's never admitted that he said it before. Now, he said he said it in a joking fashion. And there was a lot of discussion about exactly what Jordan represented off the court. And I say a lot. There's probably seven or eight minutes of a two-hour performance. But there were a couple of quotes that I thought really stood out for Michael Jordan.

2:54:09 I never thought of myself as an activist. I thought of myself as a basketball player. I wasn't a politician. I was focused on my craft. Was that selfish? Probably, but that was my energy. And I believe that's why Jordan was the best and most popular athlete ever. And this has been a big discussion point. I obviously wrote a book entitled Republicans Buy Sneakers 2, based off of that Michael Jordan quote that came out of, I believe it was the Jordan Rules, the Sam Smith book. And this is something that in many ways modern-day athletes have begun to repudiate is the idea that you should try to appeal to everyone.

2:54:55 They're doing a 10-hour documentary on Michael Jordan, and they had a guy talking there and said, oh, Michael Jordan, I don't think he's going to matter in a few years. He's going to fade. He's No Ali. So they're trying to equate LeBron James with Muhammad Ali. A guy that Muhammad Ali gave up everything for what he believed in. He was in the prime of his boxing career, probably one of the biggest American celebrities at that time. And all he had to do was go and fight exhibitions for the troops. It's not like they were going to put a rifle in his hand. But he said, no. He said, I'm not going to take the comfortable way out. I'm going to fight this. I don't believe in it. So I'm going to fight in this.

2:55:39 And they try to equate China's bitch, LeBron James, with Muhammad Ali is pretty, pretty rough. Right. And saying that, that goes back to what we covered in Throwback Clip over that clip 11 when we covered the NBA situation and LeBron being extra quiet on the China situation. There's a song from Hamilton, I want to be in the room when it happens, right? Where it happens. And to me, you're a pawn if you're not in the room. You may have the greatest exposure. You may have the greatest celebrity. You may have the loudest voice. But if you're not in the room where the decisions are being made, then ultimately, then

2:56:24 you are a pawn. You're not the queen. You're not the king. You're not a rook. And with LeBron and Colin Kaepernick, yes, their ability to present a certain opinion is just that. It's a certain opinion. And it's connected, as you said, once again, it's all about business. Exactly. And I'm going to say this as a pawn always. We ought to be fair and objective over here at the, you know, at the show. Conservatives use Michael Jordan as a pawn against against LeBron. Trump did it.

2:57:03 I like Mike. You know, he put in one tweet. So you hear a lot of these upstart conservative sports shows, they'll use Michael Jordan to denigrate LeBron. Well, which I just think is this. Okay. Well, I was going to say what I've noticed doing this show for the past year and taking a little more interest in sports. I like some sports, but I've never watched ESPN. And the level of political discourse that has been run through sports in the United States

2:57:39 was so out of control that it destroyed ESPN and barstool sports and the outkick. You know, these people were desperate to get away from this bullcrap in their sports. And it's like the whole thing is political. Everything is business and political. I think people are onto it. Well, who's the target audience for sports? Hello. Young. You know what I'm saying? And ethnic males. So if you're trying to target that spec more specifically black males. So it's like, let's leverage LeBron in a political manner. And I lost all respect for LeBron when he did that in 2016 with Hillary Clinton.

2:58:22 Like I said, if you want to donate, but when you get on stage with people and loses your celebrity, that sticks. It sticks. Oh, man. And he can't get away from that. He can't get away from that. So we have another clip from that same segment of Speak for Yourself. And notice that's when Whitlock, you're saying, I don't know if he got ran off or if he left Fox Sports News, but he's no longer there. So we have a clip with LaVar Arrington spilling some truth that probably won't have him working anymore. You are a pawn. I hate to break this news to you. I don't play chess. You are a pawn, and you're a pawn because you are a leverageable, you're a leverageable asset.

2:59:06 All right. You're a leverageable asset. I'm a leverageable asset. WIT is a leverageable asset. If we are no longer a leverageable asset to Fox, we are no longer welcome at Fox. That's the bottom line. If you don't bring that value, if you don't bring a tremendous value for what their cause is and their business model is, you're not going to be here. The same goes for what we're talking about right now. So when you're talking about, you know, are these guys pawns for this political game? Of course they are. Woo! Yep, there it is. That won't have you on TV for very long. It's podcasting for you, my friend. Yeah. So,

2:59:49 of course, we have to, you know, look at it from the esoteric. And one and only, we had to bring in Chronicle of Judah 144. And he gives us the inside on the Michael Jordan versus LeBron situation. All right, man, peace. You know, brothers, I've been telling you for a very long time. What does he say? Lampedes? What did he say? I didn't understand. All right, man, peace. Oh, my gosh. I did not hear that. All right, man, peace. All right, gotcha now. You know, brothers, I've been telling you for a very long time that this dude, LeBron Benny Blanco from the Bronx James, that the only reason why he constantly is trying to utilize wokeism and pseudo-activism and his fake internet revolutionary persona is so that he could

3:00:36 figure out a way to try to take down Michael Jordan in his mind as being the number one all-time greatest NBA basketball player. That's all this shit is really about. This is an attempt by LeBron James in concept with Nike to try to take down LeBron. And certain people might say, well, why would you say that? Isn't Michael Jordan also a Nike athlete? You have to understand something that Nike Incorporated is a Saturnian organization. They operate according to the concept of magic, meaning white magic and black magic. Like, for example, the film Star Wars. Star Wars depicts the dichotomy of the white magicians, i.e., the Jedi, against the black magicians, i.e.

3:01:14 the Sith Lords. In the Star Wars films, the Sith Lords operate according to the paradigm of the master and the apprentice. And eventually, the apprentice always tries to destroy the master. He never works alongside the master. And this is what LeBron James is doing. LeBron James is trying to destroy Michael Jordan because he understands that his magic is not as powerful as Michael Jordan's magic. They're both wizards. Don't get it twisted. They're both Saturnians. And that's why there's a level of fervor and competition between them. Oh, I love that. Yeah, so this guy does great work. He looks at the esoteric, and I frequently bring him to the show because he has a perspective.

3:01:59 I don't think it's. is original out of all content creators. So that's all it is. Michael Jordan, he LeBron wants to be the biggest athlete in the world. Sure. But he doesn't have it. Anybody, and I maybe I'm being agents here, but if you say you can watch only one last basketball game, Michael Jordan would be the pet player that you pick. Well, yeah, that's the only basketball game I watched was that 10-hour documentary, which was all about him.

3:02:37 And that's what frustrated LeBron. Thank you for the alley. I'll open on home. That's what frustrated LeBron because the what was it? I know the name of it. What, the documentary? No, yes, I know the name of it. It just slipped my mind. Anyway, the last dance, last dance, last dance. The last dance. That's it. It had better ratings than the actual NBA finals, NBA games. Oh, it was monstrous. Absolutely. It was monstrous. So that goes to show you that people are more interested in watching a documentary about Michael Jordan playing to actually watch LeBron play.

3:03:23 And there's this slogan that cropped up: once you go woke, you go broke. Yep. That with sports. People don't want to hear about it. No. Okay. I have to have to gloat here a little bit. I am the rating champion of my fantasy league this year in football. Oh, congratulations. I'm very happy about that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So the last thing I want to hear is about anything other than football. It's because it's an escape. That's a known escape for me. It's a mental unplug. You, you know, you try to forget everything that's going on outside for, you know, for me, it's going to be about six to seven hours every Sunday

3:04:07 because I have to watch Red Zone, but that's just not here or there. But that's what you want to do. I don't want to don't want to do anything but veg out in front of TV and have fun with my friends and don't inject politics into it. They don't get it. That's our only escape. That's it that's left. But what they're doing is slowly, maybe knowingly or unknowingly, they're killing entertainment. They killed all the celebrities. They killed all the musicians. They killed all the athletes with all these woke messages. Nobody wants to hear that. And that's why you, like you said, you have the new kids in the block, Out Kick, and several others that are doing big numbers because people just want to get the sports.

3:04:50 Well, and if you look at all the rest of it, if you look at barstool sports, that's totally like, let's just watch some dumb sports. Let's just talk about sports and sports. Ah, sports. And then, you know, do some good stuff for the pizzas. I love the barstool sports fun they're doing for the help restaurants. Yeah, it's just kind of wholesome, good fun. Yeah, like low, you don't have to think much. And you look at, you look at Dave Portnight, you think, hey, he's not that smart. I don't have to think much about him. It's like, it feels good. It feels very natural and normal and not problematic to use that shitty term.

3:05:29 And what it really is, it's a portal back to your youth. You know, trading basketball cards, trading football cards. I mean, that's what kind of like fantasy is. You own the guy, it's kind of like owning his card, and you can put this imaginary team together. And it just, you know, it just gives you an escape. And they polluted with these politics. And it's not even the politics. What are you going to do on the field? Go to the police station. Go, I mean, go anywhere. What are you going to do on the field? That's like me at my job. I don't bring my politics to work. I bring them to the podcast. I mean, so, yeah, okay, yeah, but obviously that's part of today's professional sports athlete's job is to do is to participate in the corporate politics, which is real politics.

3:06:18 So is the job to make money or to push narratives? That's what the question is, because they don't moving in the same direction. No, the answer is yes, but they don't understand that they don't understand that these two things don't coexist long term at all. But I don't think they disagree. And I don't think they have the opportunity to opt out. That's the obvious problem here. And then the other thing, if you're going to talk about it, be informed. It's this guy, Justin Jackson. He's on some of the more liberal shows. And he's aware. He's talking about. the Uber

3:06:56 and how Uber is stiff to people in California and they're not counted as with the bit, I mean, gig work as employees. He's very intelligent. Yeah, he's very intelligent and educated on the topics. That's fine. Use those platforms. I'm not against politics and athlete. I'm saying, don't bring it to your field of play. That's all I'm saying. So I guess we can get back into Chronicles of Judo Part 2. Really, the only flaw that Jordan has, his Achilles heel, is the perceived lack of attention that he's given to so-called black issues. Back in the 90s, they tried to attack him for his gambling. Now they're trying to attack him for his lack of quote-unquote social activism.

3:07:41 That's why I state that this whole issue, this dichotomy between Michael Jordan and LeBron James, is really based on a major issue that is so pervasive in the black community in regards to the so-called black man either wanting to take control over his own life and be held responsible for his own actions or for someone who wants to promote the victimization card. There it is. There's the connective tissue. This is this is the this is the uh either or choice of a black man. Either I'm going to believe myself, believe my talents, believe my skills, or I'm going to be a victim.

3:08:24 And I'm going to tell you the problem with LeBron James being a victim. If a guy that's 6'9, 270, 80 pounds, is walking around saying he's scared. Yeah, there's something wrong. He looks up to that. Yeah, right. It's kind of like a buck breaking that. I'm scared. I'm scared of everything. I'm scared of my own shadow. No, that's not, that's not a good look, period. But isn't that also exactly what LeBron James misses? Isn't that exactly what be like Mike? There's no be like LeBron. Michael Jordan was the hero of all children.

3:09:05 It's like, holy crap, that's a mark. He flies. The man has wings across the world. Yes. It was unbelievable. And LeBron just doesn't have that vibe. Right. So now we're going to get into the owner mindset. And this is Mark Cuban talking to Megan Kelly about the NBA ratings, Black Lives Matter, and the China hypocrisy. So basically, you're saying that nobody should do business with China ever. Why don't you just answer my question? No, Megan, I'm just trying to get to the root of it. So you're just trying to do that. You're the one. You are the one because they are a customer. They are a customer of ours. And guess what, Megan?

3:09:50 I'm okay with doing business with China. You know, I wish I could solve all the world's problems, Megan. I'm sure you do too, but we can't. And so we have to pick all battles. And while you'd like to get proclamations so you can create a clip that says, look what I got Mark to say, you don't want to deal with the actual action items. You might think silence is violence, but action gets changed. Sounds like a victim of China, actually. Chinese buy sneakers too. They make them and they buy them. That's what it sounds like to me, right? I mean, they denigrate Jordan for saying Republicans buy sneakers too, but now you have an owner and nobody holds him to task. Okay, so Cuban got a huge pass. You got a huge pass on this.

3:10:35 Right. And where's LeBron at? Where's LeBron to say, hey, you know, no, we don't, we don't want that money. We don't want that. You know, but that's how owners get down. And in the last closing two clips, this is kind of relevant to what we're talking about here. There was a, you remember Donald Sterling? I don't know if you remember him or not. Owner, owner of the former owner of the LA Clippers. He uh didn't get kicked out. Yeah, he had, he had to sell. Yeah, yeah, of course I remember. Yes. And that this, just as a side note, this is the most blatant, one of the most blatant examples of white privilege. You get kicked out of your league and you get to sell your team for like,

3:11:18 I think he bought her for like 400,000 or something like that, maybe 4 million. Sold it for 2 billion. Woohoo! Oh, that's that's that's that's showing you something, Don. But at the time, LeBron James was silent, silent. The LA Clippers, the same one, Chris Paul, that taught LeBron James and Obama. Guess what their protest was? We're going to take our jerseys off and throw them in the middle of the floor at practice. Right? We're radical. Right. But now all of a sudden, oh, now you're saying, oh, we're going to just super woke.

3:11:57 So let's get to this clip with Anderson Cooper and Donald Sterling. Magic Johnson had said that he would never attend a game while you were owner. Apparently, he showed up to a game today. He would never attend a Clippers game as long as you were owner. And he came today to see the game. He's there at the game. Yeah. I don't think it's worthy of even discussing such a stupid remark. But he lulled me into waiting a week. Do you know what I mean? He's don't do anything. He told you, you're saying he told you not to say anything? Yeah, don't do anything. I know the girl. Don't do anything.

3:12:37 I'll help you. I'm waiting and I'm waiting and I'm waiting. What you're saying is Magic Johnson called you up or you called him up. I don't know his phone number. He called you up when the tape. I don't call anybody. He calls you. I'm loyal to you. He called you up when the tape came out and he told you not to say anything yourself. Yeah. Why did he say don't say anything? He just said, wait, be patient. I'll help you. We'll work it out. Why do you think he said that? I think he wanted me to just do nothing so he could buy the team. He thought maybe the whole thing would be resolved in two weeks. What has he done? Can you tell me? Big Magic Johnson, what has he done?

3:13:19 Well, he's a business person. He's got AIDS. Did he do any business? I like, did he help anybody in South LA? Well, I think he has HIV. He doesn't actually have full-blown AIDS. Oh, man. Oh, crap. I hadn't heard this. Yeah, go ahead. Well, no, I was just going to say that the silent protest is they took, they didn't just throw their jerseys on the floor. They turned them inside out, which is a violation.

3:13:55 And it's not a violation because you're not showing your team logo. It's because you're not showing your Nike logo, if I can be so free to make that assumption. And that's what gets people's attention in these organizations. Yeah. So then we have Donald Sterling. So he's pissed off now. Magic has kind of told him, hey, don't say anything. Don't say anything. Magic's got AIDS. What is wrong with that guy? What has he done? He's famous because he got AIDS. Man, that's crazy. But hold on, it gets better. So, Anderson, just as a prelude to come to episodes, we're going to talk about Fauci, Maddie Johnson, and ATZ.

3:14:40 So, I mean, I'm just going to say. Good, good, good. We're going there. We're going all the way there. I love it, Moe. It's always a beautiful thing when you can get a racist so mad that the truth starts to pour out of their mouth. Oh, here it comes. 42. Well, what kind of a guy goes to every city, has sex with every girl? Then he catches HIV. And is that someone we want to respect and tell our kids about? I think he should be ashamed of himself. I think he should go into the background. But what does he do for the black people? He doesn't do anything. You call up and say, wow.

3:15:17 He's opened a lot of businesses in inner-city neighborhoods. The Jewish people have a company, and it's for people who want to borrow money and no interest. They want to give him a fishing pole. We want to help people. If they don't have the money, we'll loan it to you. You don't have interest, one day you'll pay us back. I'm just telling you, he does nothing. It's all talk. So you're saying that African Americans don't contribute to African-American communities as much as Jewish people? There's no African-American. Never mind. Oh, man. I wish he had finished his thought. That would have been beautiful.

3:16:02 But even he's self-censored. That goes to show you. Even a white man, racist. Yeah. Even the racist knows his boundaries. He was like, there's no black. Ah, Jesus. Now, that goes to show you. Go ahead. I was going to say there is one point that's contradictory. And I have to, you know, I'm listening to Mr. Sterling, the racist. Magic Johnson, his business is fast food, man. It's Burger King.

3:16:43 Isn't he one of the. largest. I thought he also had McDonald's. Didn't he have McDonald's? He had a fat burger, fat burger, but he has 31 Burger Kings. Right. Okay. Trap houses. Yeah, I mean, that's me, excuse me, trap houses. Trap houses. Yes, Michael, Magic Jordan, Magic Johnson has got trap houses. Woo! Trap houses. Let me see what else he's got. Oh, that's crazy. Why you look that up? Let's not lose the baby in the bathwater. Sure. Go for it. Because the truth is not him land-basing Magic Johnson. He told you the blueprint to how to have a functioning culture.

3:17:28 And I think that's why he got canceled. Because up until this point, they hadn't forced him to tell his team yet. But when this, when this beauty came out of his mouth, say, oh, Jewish people, oh, yeah, we have a company and we loan each other interest-free loans. And, you know, and when you get the phone call, you got to put up 10K. And when it's your time, you put your 10K in and you get paid back. And then we help. Yeah. LeBron, are you paying attention? Mike Tyson, are you paying attention? Diddy, are you paying attention? I'm going to even say Michael Jordan, Kanye. This is how they operate. Hello. They give each other interest-free loans.

3:18:10 Here are more facts. Here's 10K, interest-free flown. Pay us back when you can. And the way you pay back is when next time you get a phone call, you put your 10K in. He said it himself. We give them. Maybe we need to listen to that end again. He said we give them fishing poles. That's an allusion to the give a man a fish. Yes. Eat for a day, teach a man a fish. No, he said we give them fishing poles. Interesting. Let's listen to it. That's how culture works. Let's listen again. Well, what kind of a guy goes to every city, has sex with every girl? Then he catches HIV. And is that someone we want to respect and tell our kids about?

3:18:52 I think he should be ashamed of himself. I think he should go into the background. But what does he do for the black people? He doesn't do anything. You call up, it's like, well, you know, he's opened a lot of businesses in inner city neighborhoods. The Jewish people have a company, and it's for people who want to borrow money and no interest. They want to give them a fishing pole. We want to help people. That's what culture looks like. Sure. And in an odd way, and it just popped in my head, so I'll just throw it out. I'm not quite sure exactly how to explain it, but in an odd way, when I see Hotep Jesus and other black Americans, or maybe say Ados or Hotep, just Hotep.

3:19:43 I don't want to get in any trouble. Yeah. With Bitcoin, I feel that is a new version of I want to help you out. Yeah. Building wealth. That's exactly. Not handouts, not. No, no, no. Showing you a path, showing you a path, but also, I mean, Hotep clearly, just using him as an example, he clearly is helping. He's an educational thing. Here's what this can do. Here's how you can build wealth. Set it all up for you.

3:20:24 Most of what he does is education. The physical act of buying and storing Bitcoin for people is not that hard, but it's the education and it's helping people understand. He is truly handing out virtual fishing poles in my mind. Yeah, and that's right. You teach a man to fish. That's all it is. And it's not, and the buy-in is you help today, you get help today, you help tomorrow. And that's how that culture functions. On our side, it's let's take, take, take, donate, donate, donate. You want to help? Donate to Act Blue. That's how we're going to help you. Give your money up. Give your money up.

3:21:05 Give your money. Yeah. Exactly. How cynical is it, really, man? How cynical. So, Mo, is 2021 the year that we're going to set everyone free, obviously. And I look forward to doing it. Yeah, hopefully it's episodes and episodes like this. We have to get out that mind trap. We have to get, and that's, that's going to be a big thing. And 2021 is going to be not. We saw the results of, and we were looking at the end results in 2020 of politics and, you know, the Boulet. and the things that this, my focus this year is going to be focusing on the interpersonal relationships that creates that outcome.

3:21:48 And you see it here pitting black men against black men for narratives and political points and pushing agendas. So once people see it's all smoke and mirrors, hopefully they can come up out of that mind trap. And once you come out of the mind trap, then you thrive. So yes, that's my hope. And this is not just a black thing, man. Lots of people are in the mind trap. Yeah, start with us. Like that's not positive or negative. You start with us and then it goes everywhere. So prosperity, start with us. And then everybody can, you know, reap the benefits of it. Oh, Mo, I can't wait to put up a statue of you one day.

3:22:30 So in 50 years, some idiot Antifa kids can pull it down. But still, you deserve one. You deserve one. Thanks for this journey, man. I like that. There's so much here that I don't know. Started off a little rough for me. I had to kind of remember who everybody was and what all the issues were. And you pulled it off, man. Good job. I love this. This was a lot of fun. I like learning things that I really know nothing about. No, it's good. I appreciate that, Adam. And as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. And we expect you to hang around until we come back next time. But you know, we're really dedicated to the new schedule for 2021, bringing you more Mo Facts with Adam Curry right here on the podcast.

3:23:14 Mo. Thank you so much, man. Have a great week. All right. Have a good one, Adam. See you next time. And remember, you can support us by going to mofax.com or direct to our donation page, M-O-E-F-U-N-D-M-E.com. See ya. He's going to get you tomorrow. Talking about slick, slick. Oh, they call it slick and slate. Now, Slick ain't got no regrets.

3:24:04 Slick ain't got no sorrow. If he don't get you today, he'll get you tomorrow. And oh. They call it slick and slick. Peaceful and tricks. Be your free. How much fix can get me? No.