07: Mo Money Mo Problems

00:09 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for September 16th, 2019, episode number seven. Two American dudes talking it up. Hey, Mo, how are you? I'm doing good. How are you doing, Adam? I'm doing real good. You know, it's Monday once again. That means Mo Facts around these parts of Austin. Yes. And as you know, the song goes, more money, more problems. That's right. Yes. Although, being an old guy, it's like, I just keep hearing Diana Ross. I don't hear anything else. I saw her in the round when I was 15.

00:49 That's pretty amazing. That's what this show is all about is perspective. You can hear the same thing and see it two different ways because when I hear that, I hear the notorious BIG, more money, more problems. Exactly. So speaking of which, more money, more problems, we spoke in the last show about families and people not wanting to have families or the difficulties of having families in these times. So as that show ended, beginning of the probably Tuesday, Wednesday, I got an interesting email from a friend. And the title of the article was, This budget shows how $350,000 salary barely qualifies as middle class.

01:34 Yes. I actually saw that a few days ago and I thought to myself, no wonder I'm struggling. But this is if you want to live in a city or just in general. I think in there, it was like cities such as New York City, San Francisco, you know, the major hubs. But I think this speaks to last show while families, this article spoke about a family of four, two working parents making, you know, a combined salary of $350,000. They, at the end, if you lived up to, and this goes to the thing that we talked about, you know, having the house and the cars and the picket fence and the trips to Disneyland.

02:20 It's what we all want. Right. If you lived that today, at the end of the month, I believe you will have $121 cash flow. Oh, man. My vape budget is more than that. After you pay for everything. So. Now, who did this? Who put this study together? Who was the genius? This was published on CNBC and the numbers are according to the U.S. Census Bureau. And this was on, let's see, the website was. Well, this is, you sent me a link from MSN, but I think the, maybe the original. Excuse me. Yeah. Yes. So it was written by Sean Langlos.

03:05 Langlois. Langlois, something like that. Yeah. Langlois, maybe French, yeah. So as we see, more money, more problems. And that kind of explains, puts a button on what we talked about last show. So, but as we see moving forward into this show, we're going to talk about how more money can cause more problems. So how's that gray Twitter feed line going for you? I want to test it out. To be very honest, I was in, we were away this weekend. We were in Las Vegas, went to see Bruno Mars. So I really haven't been looking too much at the gray Twitter, but I'm keeping up, Mo.

03:49 You know me. I'm keeping up. Okay. So for those out there that don't have the, you know, the privilege of having a gray or black Twitter line timeline, there was a beef, Black Lives Matter beef, to be more specific, between one Sean King and one D-Ray McKesson. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Very long medium article that was written about this. Yes, there was a long medium article written by D. Ray McKesson. And just as of this morning, there was a quote unquote, I hate this word, clap back

04:30 by Sean King with an even longer medium article. And we're going to get into that, but let's start off with the backgrounder. Greetings and salutations. I'm Christopher Platt, reporting for your Black World News with an article from News One. Sean King and D-Ray McKesson once worked closely together, but had an epic falling out that played out on Twitter years ago. Like most social media feuds, it was hard to tell who was right or wrong, but people still took sides. sides. Since then, they've rarely mentioned each other until now. McKesson wrote a scathing and long piece on King. In a piece for Medium, McKesson goes on and on about how he trusted King, believed in his work, but then noticed dismissiveness and bad communication.

05:18 He then implies King stole money from Justice Together, where McKesson was a board member at one point, and said, To date, it's not clear that Sean filed the appropriate taxes for Justice Together, as there's no 990 form available for public review from the IRS website. He also slammed Sean King's fundraising report, claiming it was not independent. McKesson also alleged that King did not raise millions and that he took credit for other people's work. He takes credit for 100% of all funds raised for any fundraiser whose link he has ever posted online in an email blast or retweeted.

05:57 McKesson also referenced the Clarissa Brooks incident, where King demanded an apology after she reportedly said that he stole or spent money that was raised for Centoya Brown, which King claimed he never raised money for. McKesson cites a bunch of failed projects from King. Basically, McKesson believes King is a fraud. You know, you could put this on shortwave radio and it would sound really cool. So this was from the YouTube

06:35 News One. And if you're asking who News One is, that is sponsored by Radio One, which is founded by Miss Kathy Hughes. And that's going to be important later. But let's get in. So just a little background. These two came up through the Black Lives Matter Ferguson event with the shooting of Michael Brown. And that's how they became into public light. So from there, D-Ray has felt like he's been pushed to the side while Sean King has become like a shooting star.

07:15 I mean, he's like the creme de la creme of wokeism. Was he one of the people who met with Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election? They had that kind of backstage meeting, if you recall. Which one? D-Ray McKesson or Sean King? I'm not sure. I know D-Ray was there, but I'm not sure. And for people to know, Sean, I mean, D-Ray was the bigger star starting out. The blue vest, he was a really huge star. But let's go on to that second clip. King's been defending his name for weeks after Rihanna announced she would honor the Morehouse man at an upcoming award ceremony.

07:53 Social media went ham and demanded that she reconsider. In response, King released a 72-page report of quote, every single penny I've ever raised, end quote, since Black Lives Matter began. The documents were compiled and authored in part by people like Tamika Mallory, co-chair of the Women's March and co-founder of Justice League NYC, and civil rights attorney Lee Merritt. The report focused on fundraisers that King promoted through his social media accounts and provided what King said was a full accounting of his financial relationship with Real Justice Pack and Action Pack, along with five years of his tax returns.

08:34 Now, hold on a second. You know, for every type of entity, if it's a PAC, if it's a non-profit, there's forums you got to fill out for taxes that I think have to be published publicly unless there's some other entity that was in play here. That is correct. And like he said, he put out a 72-page report stating how the money was spent. And you even heard him brought up the Justice Pack, the Real Justice Pack. So I did a little homework. Whenever I hear PAC, I hear money, I start following the paper trail.

09:13 So the Real Justice Pack is funded by Carrie Tuna and Justice Mozgovitz. No, it's M-O-S-B-U. Mozvod Mozkovic, yes. Are you familiar with him? No, in fact, this is. This is the most names I've ever heard in this show who I have no clue about. So Dustin Mozgovic, I can't say it. Mozgoviewicz is one of the founders of Facebook. And they put almost $2 million into this real justice pack. So Sean King is backed by. Facebook money

09:58 to the tune of $2 million. And I found it funny that the money is registered under Carrie Tuna, not under their, they have a nonprofit that they could have put the money under, but it was like an individual donor type thing. So I thought that was funny how they kind of like tried, in my honest opinion, amassed the money. You know, because when you see Carrie Tuna, that doesn't ring a bell. But when I, you know, start digging in who she was, I found out who she's married to, and then the connection with Facebook. So okay, so I'm just, it is Dustin Moscovitz, indeed. Moscovich. Yeah, that's it. That's the guy. Okay, got it. So

10:39 that just struck me as weird. I mean, you guys have a nonprofit. They took the pack with Bill Gates and Warren Buffett to spend all their money, donate all their money in their lifetime. Yeah, this is the giving pledge that you will give away at least, I think it's half of your fortune in your lifetime, but the idea is to spend all of it. Right. But as you hear in this piece from the news one, which is a product of Radio One, they're very friendly and protective of Sean King. They really didn't get into the article of the accusation D-Ray McKesson made. It was more to the defense of Sean King. And that's going to be very important to remember this foul that away.

11:24 Why? We'll see later on in my presentation. But let's go to clip three. In addition, King said the authors of the fundraising report had unlimited access to his and his family's checking accounts, savings accounts, credit cards, retirement accounts, and money management software. I've helped raise over $34.5 million for families, charities, causes, and campaigns. King tweeted Tuesday morning. A seven-person expert review board inspected every penny, including the past five years of my tax returns. There's a 72-page report. In addition, the families of Nia Wilson, Philando Castile, Terrence Crutcher, and multiple other people killed in recent years vouched for King.

12:11 The family of Botham Jean, the man who was killed by Dallas police officer Amber Geiger a year ago, this Friday, had nothing but glowing words for King. We have had the pleasure of interacting with Sean King in the months following Botham's murder. Jean's family wrote: Sean has become more than another voice for our family. He's become our friend. He's advocated for the Jean family, spoke up for us, dried our tears, and held our hands. We're grateful for his support, as are many other families who have met him. Well, what this tells me is don't mess with this guy because the dead are speaking on his behalf.

12:48 Also, if you notice, it's one of those things with Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. You call Sean King, he gets the money. And we're going to see, I think later on the presentation, we're going to see he raised over like maybe $30 million on the behalf of families and organizations. But before we move forward, you know, as I always like to do, we have to go backwards before we can go forward. So, Adam, I'm going to test your memory a little bit.

13:30 What was the purpose of Black Lives Matter? Who was it set aside to protect? In your opinion? In my opinion, Black Lives Matter was set up particularly to bring attention to police brutality against Black people. Specifically, Black males, correct? Because that's who the majority of the victims were. Yes. Yeah. I would not have specified it as such, but yeah, yes, sure. And this has been the argument just to, I mean, from my perspective, I didn't want to put words into your mouth, but the perspective when I first saw Black Lives Matter trending on

14:09 social media, it was kind of like they were using the plight of the black male being gunned down by police with your hands up, you know, to bring attention to that. But let's listen. I found a great interview with the three creators of Black Lives Matter, Alicia Garza, Patrice Colors, and Opal Tome. The name Patrice, I recognize. I recognize, I think, from a connection to Soros or something.

14:50 Right. Right. You always get in the head there. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Hey, I knew something. This is becoming a common thing with you. But yeah. They had a great sit-down with TED Talks, which is a platform to get all that woke agenda out there. And let's listen to the reason why they started Black Lives Matter. Why is Black Lives Matter important for the U.S. right now and in the world? Black Lives Matter is our call to action. It is a tool to reimagine a world where Black people are free to exist, free to live.

15:37 It is a tool for our allies to show up differently for us. Whoa, that's not what I understood the movement to be. And I thank God for them because I didn't know I wasn't free to live or exist, but God bless them. Feel free. Feel free. Right. So let's get into clip two of Miss Patrice Collier's. Black Lives Matter offers answers to the why. It offers a new vision for young black girls around the world that we deserve to be fought for. That we deserve to call on local governments to show up for us.

16:20 Wow. This is not at all what the message was. I thought it was hands up. Don't shoot Black men. Black men of color are being shot down in the street like animals, but obviously not. And you know what? I cannot foresee this coming. I am being ultra facetious, but well, hold on. Let me ask you a question. Was now this you said the things from a TED talk. Was that at the founding or was it later? I mean, was that the original concept? And I just want to get the timeline. Maybe that changes. This is afterwards. This is a couple years after they got off the ground.

17:05 Because as you've heard, Black Lives Matter started out as a hashtag and then became an organization. And then, you know, it became a vehicle for what always these liberal super woke. I hate using that word repeatedly, but these movements happen. It's like Black people causes is the stepping stone to get into bigger fundraising and taking bigger issues on. So if you really want to get in, you know, you start with the black people or you start with the black causes.

17:47 And then you're going to hear Miss Opal Tome pivot to other causes. We need this because the global reality is that black people are subject to all sorts of disparities in most of our most challenging issues of our day. I think about issues like climate change and how six of the 10 worst impacted nations by climate change are actually on the continent of Africa. Whoa, this is great. I wish I had had this for no agenda. This is fantastic. Good. Okay. So climate change is killing black men in the neighborhoods.

18:31 Yes. Obviously, climate only affects us specifically. But as you see, it's what they call mission creep. Yeah. Yeah. I'd say it's a form of mission creep. You know, they get their foot in the door. People like, oh, that Black Lives Matter thing is pretty cool. They got there. Let's tuck all these other things in with it, you know, and then it becomes so diluted that it doesn't even address the original concern was which is an actual concern, black men being shot in the streets. Let's not, let's not poo-poo that.

19:11 But if the people that are receiving the funding and the attention go away from drawing attention to that problem, how can you expect anybody else to? Exactly. And we see this over and over and over again. And that's why people become so jaded to these movements because we know how it's going to end up. I mean, as we've seen on this show, hopefully, the past only repeats itself. This is just a new iteration of something that we've seen before. But let's listen to Miss Opal Tome speak some more.

19:53 We also see disasters like Hurricane Matthew, which recently wreaked havoc in many different nations, but caused the most damage to Haiti. Haiti is the poorest country in this hemisphere, and its inhabitants are black people. And what we're seeing in Haiti is that they were actually facing a number of challenges that even preceded this hurricane. They were reeling from the earthquake. They were reeling from cholera that was brought in by UN peacekeepers and still hasn't been eradicated. This is unconscionable. And this would not happen if this nation didn't have a population that was black.

20:35 And we have to be real about that. Yes, because earthquakes only target black people. And hurricanes. Oh, and hurricanes. And Haiti is this is Black Lives Matter, Haitian Black Lives Matter. This is great. So let me ask you this a couple of questions, and these are no agenda questions. One, who kind of took charge after that earthquake happened in Haiti? Well, that would be the Clintons. Why no mention of the Clintons and how they misappropriated billions of dollars?

21:19 Yes. Haiti should be a top-notch nation with the amount of money that was infused from the earthquake. Oh, well, yeah. If the money was infused, I mean, what wound up happening is the Red Cross built about six homes and the Clintons built a hotel and they got the Bill and Hillary suite. And this is almost like mainstream acknowledgement of how poorly handled that was. And, you know, not to mention, what's the guy? Sweet McClure Martelli, there was a whole bunch of other. Who was the one? Didn't the Black IPs guy jump in there for a hot minute?

22:01 Yeah. And was it him? Or are you talking about Watt Club John? I'm sorry. Why Cliff? Yeah. White Club Johnson. Okay, yeah. And let's not forget about Mr. Rodham, Hillary Clinton's brother. Yes, he got the exclusive mining licenses to mine for gold. Right. So, but it was the natural disaster that was the problem. Yes, because nothing is. No, earthquakes and hurricanes hate black people. They target. I mean, they racially profile black people. Racist. They're like, hey, the island over there. Hey, that one looks nice. Let's go blow that one down. Not the government.

22:43 And I put a sole responsibility on the government of those nations because they're allowed to misuse the funds that are given to assist their people. But this goes to show you the problem. They don't want to step on any toes of the mega donors and the donor class because this is where they get their daily bread from. That's fundraising 101 right there in the book. Right. Yeah, you don't step on the toes of the donors. But moving forward, Miss Alicia Garza, let's hear her take on Black Lives Matter.

23:24 When you deal with what's happening in Black communities, it creates an effervescence, right? So a bubble up rather than a trickle down. Let me give an example. When we talk about the wage gap, we often say women make 78 cents to every dollar that a man makes. Y'all have heard that before. But those are the statistics for white women and white men. The reality is that black women make something like 64 cents to every 78 cents that white women make. When we talk about Latinas, it goes down to about 58 cents. If we were to talk about indigenous women, if we were to talk about trans women, it would even go farther down.

24:04 So again, if you deal with those who are the most impacted, everybody has an opportunity to benefit from that. Okay, well, this, you know, I have a trouble, I have a problem with these statistics in general. I don't know if that's where you want to go, but I don't. We're not going to go down that. Okay. All right, good. I agree. I agree with your, I already know where you're going to come from. And yeah, those numbers are a miss twist of the calculations. The point I want to make is out of all three. founders, out of all the clips that we heard, we never heard the black male

24:47 man brought up once. And I didn't cherry pick this, I didn't cherry pick this TED Talks video. This is literally the first question and their responses. Well, that shows that we've been hoodwinked. Yes, we have. And we were told that we were hoodwinked by people on the ground in Ferguson. There is a gentleman named Darren Seals.

25:26 He was one of the local activists, and he was tied to the streets in Ferguson, well-respected. He started out in the streets, but then he went away from that to kind of being a positive force in the streets. But let's listen to Mr. Darren Seals speak about Black Lives Matter. What it is, man, it's these hashtags, Black Lives Matter. Man, that's bull. That's bullshit, man. Black Lives Matter is some bad. They're the ones that's doing it. You don't even know that. Black Lives Matter, they the ones that send these people. The dude D-Ray. Black Lives Matter, they sent him down here.

26:10 They were sent out by some lesbians, man. And so his name is DB D-Ray. D-E-R-A-Y. D-Ray. And he's a homo. Homo. Homo. Go on Twitter right now and follow him. Go look at him. About 60,000 followers. He's from, listen, it's the crazy point. He's from Baltimore. This is the crazy point. Look, he's from Baltimore. He's been hollering Ferguson, Ferguson, Ferguson, got everybody thinking he's from Ferguson, right? Teddy, the Ferguson thing acquired now. He went back to Baltimore. The Baltimore boys ran him up out of there. Well, a lot going on in this clip, Mo. Yes, it is.

26:51 And I would say, in a way, it feels like we're getting a look inside the mind of, dare I say, an average Black American male. Yeah, I'm glad you brought up that point. Go ahead. Yeah. I'm glad you brought up that point. And he received pushback for using quote-unquote unacceptable language when he's talking about the LGBT community. They labeled him as a homophobic. He addressed that later on the clip, but I didn't want to make the clip too long. Not later on this clip, but other clips. He addressed that as they painted him as they paint anybody that disagrees with them as being homophobic and not to be heard.

27:37 But the point he was trying to make is these people came from other places and created a situation and made the situation worse than it was that agitated what was going on in Ferguson while reaping the benefits and actually wasn't even boots on the ground. They weren't standing on the front lines. No. They were on Twitter. They were, you know, securing the funds that never made it to the people like himself that were on the ground. And one thing you brought up is

28:22 inside the mind of a black man. I'm going to say this. Black people, and I've said this before, black people are some of the most socially conservative groups there is. So when you try to push these new ideas and ideologies on us that go counter to what we believe, you get pushback. Now, he is not the most articulate person. Well, let me jump in. I mean, just from my perspective, the general feeling I get, and I don't like to generalize, but we're doing it, is that black men have an aversion against

29:07 gay men and certainly transgendered black men. Okay, let's take a now that's that's just an observation. It's generalizing, you know, and tell me where I'm at. I'm going to speak from personal. I have nothing against LGBT. The problem I have is the overrepresentation in the media. media of black men being gay. Got it. Where 13% of the population is black. Half of that makes us, what, 6.5% of the population, correct? Yep. But when you turn on the television, there's the number of black men.

29:52 There's Don Lemon. Woo! Right. Of the number of black men represented in the media, represented in movies, represented in just overall what's portrayed on, you know, the television screens, movie screens, even memes. When you look at memes, black men are represented as overall, a large portion or a large portion of them are represented as homosexual. Also, just, and I don't, I didn't want to go here, but it's going to be very important to this conversation we're having.

30:30 There was recently a guy named Malik Yoba. I don't know if you're familiar with him or not, but he was on a popular television show, New York Undercover. It was in the 1990s on Fox. He's come out and he's been hugely pro trans. He's trying to say that if you date trans women, I don't know how it goes. I think the women, men that are women, are trans women, I believe. I don't have my. Yes. Right. They're pushing now that you shouldn't, if you don't want to date a trans woman, you're transphobic and homophobic. Yeah, well, and that's colorless. I mean, that's across the board.

31:15 If you say, I'd never date a trans woman, you're transphobic right off. That's, you know, this is the Dave Chappelle trap. This is the Dave Chappelle trap. And it's amazing how these two things were going on at the same time in the news. You had Dave Chappelle's comedy special. And then you had Malik Yoba coming out being an advocate for this. And of course, they went to the Breakfast Club. And I don't want to go down that rat hole, but I just want to go to show you in the mind of an average black male. It's like you're either portraying us as hyper sexual, violent, or hyper-feminine, emasculated. There's no, you know, normalcy.

31:57 We don't get any normalcy how we're represented in the media. And I think that's what you're hearing now from Mr. Darren Seals. But just to get back on track, let's hear on Darren Spiels, Darren Seals, speak out about Black Lives Matter. So while they're tweeting, they're playing cat and off with the white folks. You know, they racist. They're hiding behind fake pages on Twitter, talking shit, going back and forth. We tweet, retweet. It's like a big ass show. You know, so you got a lot of people sending them money, turning them into stars, Oprah, tweeting at her, and all that. They calling her fucking the face of Ferguson. Don't nobody know who the fuck she is. She ain't a face of shit. I don't even know that. When she came out there, she just sat there and tweeted.

32:39 What you the fuck the face of Twitter? That's what I call them. But anyways, man, a lot of people don't understand Black Lives Matter as an organization. They think it's just a hashtag and people just saying, man, anytime white folks are part of it, they're putting it in the media. Something behind it. Believe that. Huh. Okay. So he saw what was going on. He saw the money coming in, but it wasn't reaching. You know, you see these GoFummies go up. You see these people that are receiving all this media attention on social media, but you're not seeing them on the front lines.

33:19 Questions. So the Black Lives Money funding, money that comes in, what do the Boots on? What did they expect that they would be giving them money to survive while protesting, material signs? I mean, what would the money, what is the money necessary for? Okay, one, bailing people out of jail. Ah, yes. Good. Okay, got it. Two, I mean, it's kind of like when you're looking at it like when you're at war, I mean, I hate to use a war analogy, but you got to have resources to the troops. Well, the bail right at the top, I get it. A lot of money raised for protesters is for

34:04 bail funds. Okay, let me draw this analogy to you. So, say you always bringing up the homeless issue in Austin, right? I'm from Northern Virginia, DMV, DC area. I'll be like, man, that's terrible. What's going on in Austin? I come out there, I set up shop saying, oh, Austin, Austin, but then I. secure funds and take them back to DMV. Oh, yeah, I know I'm talking about that. That would be seen as like disingenuous. But he made a good, he made a point there.

34:47 It's not a good point, but what black people have noticed, and I'm just speaking in generalities, that whenever you see these groups show up and you see they're headed by or funded, you know, by certain demographics, I'm being white liberals in this case. It really irks you, you know, especially when you're when we saw how he understood how it was going to end up, what we saw in the previous clips of how they were speaking

35:27 about what Black Lives Matter had evolved to, not what they were raising money off of. But Mr. Darren Seals was causing too many problems. Don't upset the apple carts. Right. When you come out there and you start, and he has started gaining attention, albeit from smaller platforms, that's why I had to get, I had to really dig to get these clips because they were really, for lack of a better word, blackballing him in the media

36:03 until a certain event happened. Darren Seals was known locally as a rapper, nationally, for his activism during the Ferguson protests. Seals was found shot inside a burning car in Riverview on Diamond Drive. Police initially thought they were responding to a car on fire, but once they put out the flames, they discovered Seals' body inside with a gunshot wound. The community cares about Benjamin Granda is with the St. Louis County Police Department. He's hoping Seals' status will encourage people to come forward with information. I do know that there is a lot of sentiment in the community that they want justice, they want the truth, and we hope to give that to them.

36:47 We can't do it alone, so we're hoping that friends, family members, acquaintances, or just any members of the community can come forward and help us out with this, with any information they may have. Yeah, you know, I vaguely remember this. And I remember, and we might have even talked about it on No Agenda. We were like, well, if you're in the car and the car's burning and you got a bullet hole in you, you got to know that's not suicide. Not suicide and not some random beef. The guy was beloved in his neighborhood by the people that actually lived there. It reminds me of the, and God, his name just slipped my mind just that quick.

37:31 The guy that was shot in DC with the Democratic, he was a Democratic party worker. Oh, yes. That's sad. I think it's Sean. It was his name, Sean. It wasn't Sean. It was. This is horrible that we don't know this. Okay. Consult the book of knowledge. Seth Rich. I knew I was going to get there. Seth Rich. Seth Rich. And that just the fact that we forget even more troubling. Yeah, that's tragic, isn't it? Because we remember him. I mean, we all remember him, but

38:17 as, I mean, you just go to show you that people can be erased. And this is the case I think is good with Darren Seals. He was talking too much for certain people good. And we know, as looking back now, a lot of big money was being pumped into Black Lives Matter. Now, was there any kind of investigation? Was there any follow-up of this murder? I searched all over the web. That was the only clip I could find. And there were other ones around that time just reporting the death, but no follow-up.

38:55 And usually when there's no follow-up, I'll say it like this. If you, okay, it's two, it's two ways you can look at it. One, the police killed him or people pro-police killed him because he was an activist. Then you use him as a martyr to gain attention. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, of course. Right. But the fact, and it was the same thing with Seth Rich. If he was killed because he. he had information about the Russians, quote-unquote Russians, that would, or you could use gun violence, which would have been great for the Democratic Party.

39:36 You know, look, another, you know what I'm saying? One of our own taking down my gun violence. You know, we need to bring attention to gun control. And to be none of that. And to be specific, Seth Rich, the belief is that he was the one that pulled the emails from the Democratic National Committee server and gave those to WikiLeaks. That's true. But what I'm saying is, if you say it's a random street crime, which is the official story. Yeah. Right. Why didn't the Democrats use this as a one of our own taken by gun violence? Well, you know, it was a .22 caliber. It's not a scary AR-15, but I understand what you're saying.

40:19 Right. And it's the same thing if you look at it through the same lens here. If it was an anti-Black Lives Matter pro-cop murder, we need to use this guy as a martyr. Yes. But when it goes silent, then you know something's up. Okay. All right. I like the analogy. Totally get it. So that's how I saw that. But we got to understand: okay, if we're going to go with he was silenced, why would he be silenced? And my theory is the money that was being pumped into Black Lives Matter and who was doing it. So, who's funding Black Lives Matter? One of the big donors seems to be George Soros, our old pal, who gives big money to affiliates of Black Lives Matter, groups that do direct business with that.

41:06 Also, giving money directly to the group, entertainers Jay-Z and Beyonce. There they are. Joining yourself from Washington, Kelly Riddell, an investigative reporter for the Washington Times. Is this just a fringe group or should we take them seriously? Well, I mean, you got to look at Black Lives Matter is really an umbrella slogan kind of group that encompasses a lot of social justice workers and a lot of social justice organizations. And it was a group that was started by three women that work at Soros-backed organizations that are into community organizing, into kind of riling up activists.

41:47 Yes. Okay. It's all coming back now. Yep. And I remember, I don't know which one of the women had, I think, a $2 million nonprofit that definitely was funded by Open Society Institute, i.e. George Soros. I don't know about all of them, though. That was Alicia Garza. Okay. Yeah, and that's the one you guys covered on the No Agenda that she was receiving some money from some Chinese organization. I think we're saying you did some research on that as well. But let's say I digress on that point. But if you're going to go with the theory that he was silenced, big money will get you silenced.

42:28 Very quickly. This is a very Black Lives Matter, and that's why I'm harping on this. And just to go, we're going going backwards to go forward why D-Ray McKesson and Sean King are having this long-standing beef. D-Ray was in the position of power. He had the blue vest. He was on the tonight shows. And lo and behold, Sean King came in and replaced him at some point.

43:05 Now D-Ray's on the outside looking in. The women of Black Lives Matter have moved on to bigger and better causes to fight. And he's left with only Twitter fame. No, that's not my words. Let me go to, like I said, there's an article that came out this morning from Sean King. And this was his reply. Let me find it. So in the beginning of his article, he mentions how he says, I am not a Twitter account.

43:48 When I look in the mirror in the morning, I don't see at Sean King or a social media personality. I'm a husband to the brilliant black woman I first met and fell in love with 1996. And that was in him saying that because, yeah, you picked up on that. Oh, yeah. Yes, AtmoFax. I hear you. Right. So, but he goes on to say, let me see. D-Ray has been basically uh, okay, here's a quote: D-Ray is now mainly famous for being famous more than he is famous for actually doing uh real work that helps real people, and because his fame is mostly exclusively centered on Twitter.

44:41 Got it. So he's saying we've branched out, we become real entities in the movement, and poor D-Ray is just, you know, he's a Twitter, he's a Twitter celebrity, right? Um, and that's that's uh that's the fundamental beef right there. That's the fundamental beef right there. So I know you guys are saying, and everybody's saying, Well, Mo, you're coming with Fox News facts about Soros and Black Lives Matter. No, I actually looked it up. I remember looking at the Form 990 of

45:22 Garza's nonprofit, and there it was, Open Society Institute. That's not Fox News. That's IRS filings. Well, as I always like to do, I like to bring balance, and we're going to list Mr. Dave Pacman, who is super progressive. He's a Bernie bro. And he's going to also make the claim that Black Lives Matter is Soros funded. And I have a very, very specific idea that we need to explore seriously, which is that the anti-Bernie Sanders tinge of the Black Lives Matter movement recently could be George Soros-funded AstroTurf. And I will speak as specifically as possible, Lewis, and then I will allow you, Lewis, to tell me what you think about this.

46:07 It's widely on record that George Soros, the liberal billionaire, has poured a ton of money into two movements that were instrumental in creating Black Lives Matter and the buzzword. Dating back to January, we knew that George Soros spent over $30 million bankrolling Ferguson demonstrators. And of course, Ferguson relates to Officer Darren Wilson, who killed unarmed teenager Michael Brown and was ultimately not charged. This includes support by George Soros of groups like Colorlin's News for Action, Organization for Black Struggle, which established itself, then established the Hands Up Coalition.

46:48 Soros also gave money to the Drug Policy Alliance, which worked on pushing Black Lives Matter as a buzzword, which has since been incorporated into speeches by political figures, including Hillary Clinton. Now, tell me again about this, Dave Pacman. Dave Pacman, he has almost 700,000 followers on YouTube. He's progressive. Is he a white guy? White guy. White guy. You asked me a question last show about is Black Woke and White Woke the same? Yeah. And this is where you can see where they can part ways because

47:33 they have different agendas. They have different agendas. And if they don't line up, they will attack each other. So this is a perfect example of that. Now, I guess other people may say, well, Mo, that's just two white guys saying that Black Lives Matter. Yeah, Soros punch. Look at that. Right. So let's go to Mr. Lord, Lord Jamal Jamar of brand newbie and fame, rapper from the 1990s. Can't get much blacker than that. That's black as you. Yeah. And let's listen to him speak on Black Lives Matter being supported by Soros.

48:17 I don't know. I just thought that was weird shit. And I'm not no Black Lives Matter supporter. No, absolutely. Why not? Because it's not our movement. This is a movement that was given to us by, you know, George Soros and his fucking boys. Because they saw how things were going and they didn't want it to go back to the 60s to where we start having our own organic movements. That was a big fucking problem for them. So let's give the people a movement that we can control. We'll provide them the leaders and all of this type of shit. And yeah, that's what Black Lives Matter is. Look at the leaders of Black Lives Matter. Are there leaders?

49:01 Black Lives Matter? Yeah. Look at these lesbian women who are trying to incorporate, you know, LG, whatever the fuck the letters are. Incorporate those, their concerns. concerns into black people's concerns. Go to the website, look it up. Well, first, let's help Lord Jamar. It's LGBBTQQIAPK. And what strikes me about this clip, what he said in the beginning, is he sees this situation, which I agree with, pretty much as the dinner scene from the movie Trick Baby.

49:40 Which is something that's come back as a current theme of this show. Now you're seeing it's all about control opposition. We have to control, you know, the masses. And what do we do about how do we do that? We put the leadership in front of them. Whether it's homegrown, it's two ways it can happen. They can grow the leadership from the ground up, which that's, I think, this is where the conservative, conservatives, and liberals deviate in mindset. A lot of your conservative

50:19 talking heads are grown from the ground up. What liberals do is they say, who's hot in the streets right now? And they say, okay, Black Lives Matter, that's the move. Okay, this is what we're going to do. What's your number? And then they come in, they co-opt them, they give them money. You know, they give them, like I said, D-Ray McKesson went from on Twitter. I remember seeing this guy pop up. And I'm like, who is this? I do this. And what I mean by I do this, I'll see, I watch and I see who are they putting up as movers and shakers. And when new people start to pop up, I did the same thing with Obama. Who is this guy?

51:02 I never saw him in a jet. I never saw him in an Ebony. I never, you know, and then you just pop up out of nowhere. The same thing with D-Ray McKesson. Who is this guy? I never seen you on black YouTube. I never, you know, because it's a circuit. You know, even you can go back because a lot of times this stuff was captured on VHS and then it was later loaded up on the YouTube, even pre-Youtube. So a lot of these people have passed history. They got history. Yeah. Right. So when you start digging, like, I don't find anything on this guy, D-Ray. I don't find anything on this guy, Sean King. I don't find anything on these three ladies from Black Lives Matter.

51:43 You know, they didn't come up through the one of the big circuits is the, it was the black bookstore circuit. That was kind of like the chicken circuit for black black speakers and thinkers. You know, you, you, every town that had a large or semi-large black population had a black bookstore where they would sell literature. And like on Saturdays, give me all some MSI baseball here, folks. On Saturday, often a person might pushing a book would come to speak at these bookstores. And that's what the VH VHS tapes will pop up at.

52:28 You don't have that now because they can go straight to the people via YouTube or social media. So, but that's what I'm saying. You have a legacy built up of saying, okay, this guy is an agent or he ain't an agent, you know, because you had to make your, you know, you had to make your name and state your claim in those bookstores. These guys don't have any of that. So when I started to go do my homework on us, as Lord, Lord Jamar did, he's like, man, who the hell are these people? And I want to be clear for certain people out there, they might hear this tinge of

53:07 black male versus the LGBT community. The problem with that, and I want to make this very clear, is they've co-opted us in so many ways. And when I say us, the struggles of black people, specifically black men, to say, oh, yeah, we're just like black people. Black people don't have a closet. We don't have a closet that we can, you understand what I'm saying? So it's very insulting. Now, on the other hand, you shouldn't be disrespectful of anybody's life choices. I believe that. You know what I'm saying? To each his own, whatever, whatever you're into. So we have to be respectful.

53:50 But when somebody comes in and co-opts, you know, the civil rights movement, they co-opted that. Black Lives Matter, they co-opted that. Not the, we know Black Lives Matter was created solely for that. I'll give you another example. The Tea Party, which has nothing to do with Black or White, although there were probably white people, which was started. started by Ron Paul. And this is 2008, and that got co-opted massively. And there's still a tea party that has nothing to do with the original libertarian idea behind it.

54:25 So, yeah, the political movements that get co-opted all the time. Yeah, but the problem is, it's the same people co-opting our movements over and over and over again. And I'm not just talking about the 1990s. I'm going all the way back to the Harlem Renaissance of the 1920s. That was funded. And I'll may have to do a later Sean. You know, you just, you got me with all you already got me with the black bookstores, which, of course, I didn't know about. Now I need to know about this movement in the 20s. That can be a separate show, but I'm already intrigued.

55:02 Just as a teaser, one of the guy listed as the father of the Harlem Renaissance was hugely pro LGBT in that time. And I'll just leave it at that. Okay. So back to Laura Jamar. Let's listen to him continue on about Black Lives Matter. You see what I'm saying? There's no real leaders. Why is he? There is leaders. This is what I'm telling you. They're lesbians. They're black lesbians. Key people are Sean King. Who's that? He's a writer for New York Daily News.

55:45 I'm not talking about key people. Go to the fucking website. Who runs the shit? Is there a website? Good. Right. I mean, because when I looked up Black Lives MLM leader, the key people that there's no leader that's listed, but the key people that are listed is Sean King, DeRay McKeeson, and Johnetta Elzey. So as you've seen there, Lord Jamar said when he said Sean King, who's that? Right. If he doesn't know you, I mean, you have no credentials. I mean, because I think his knowledge would be even more extensive than mine.

56:29 I mean, by far. And who are the movers and shakers and pro-black society? And he was like, who's that? But as we see, fast forward, just going back to the article that Sean King wrote to D-Ray. D-Ray McKesson. So here's why these things happen in the time that they happened. Let me just explain to you. Okay. Sean King was being recognized by Rihanna.

57:10 Ah, okay. This is once you get into that, then you're up and up and into the new circles. Right. So they were having a, she has, hold on. Let's see. It says, okay, going back to the article. D-Ray chose to release a public attack against me hours before the diamond ball was vindictive, short-sighted, and destructive. So the diamond ball was a ball being held about the Clara Lionel Foundation, which is Rihanna's foundation.

57:52 So then he goes on to say, he says, but because D-Ray's poorly timed, and I don't agree with that, I think it was excellently timed. I-Ed on the red carpet reporters berated guests about me and my presence. And instead of Rihanna and the foundation or the diamond ball being the top, the trending topic in the country, it was D-Ray and his attacks against me all night long. So now we're seeing Sean King is in the, you know, in the inner circle, not only, you know, on black topics, but with celebrities.

58:30 You know, you're getting honored by Rihanna and you're getting, you know, saying, get invited to these balls. And not only that, but he's getting support by the one and only Cardi B. One of the main reasons why it's so important for me to be here is because Rihanna is honoring Sean King. A lot of people need to follow Sean King on Instagram. He protests so much for all minorities. He protests so much for the whole entire world. And he's doing this thing right now. It's called Boca. Vote for Senate. It's very important for people to vote for Senate and everything so we could dethrone things. You know what I'm saying? Because the Democrats already got the House.

59:23 That's my black card right there. Oh, I got you. You caught me on ground. I practiced for hours. All right. So, well, hold on a second. Did you catch it? Cardi B is dumb. All right. She's just dumb. I've seen Cardi B. I hear what she says. I mean, she's an entertainer. She's funny to watch. She's got the hooks. She's got all that. She's very entertaining to watch, but I don't think she's smart. Wait a minute, Adam Curry. You wait a minute, sir. Oh, here we go. According to Mr. D-Ray's article, I mean, Mr. Sean King's article, he says, quote, furthermore, a sexist,

1:00:09 dismissive assumption is being made about both Rihanna and Cardi B and their public and private support of me. The assumption is that D-Ray knows better than they do. And so, so does Adam Curry. Yeah, well, I stand by my points here. All right. He says the inference is that Rihanna and Cardi B were only better informed if they were only a little smarter and only a little more woke like him. If they only knew what Twitter knows, they wouldn't fuck with me, quote unquote. By the way, I don't think Rihanna's dumb. I think she's actually very smart. You fell right into the trap.

1:00:52 Of course I did. I'm living up to my dumb white guy image. Okay. Sorry. No. All right. So to get to that level, you can see why D-Ray is serious. Yeah, he's pissed. I'm going to say this again. Him being of the LGBT community. He's like, this guy, Sean King, hanging with Rihanna and Cardi B. Yeah. And I'm sitting at home. That has to irk him. That has to irk him. But it's man. But so now we're seeing why we're here.

1:01:37 I went all the way around the block to get us to the point of the beef. Now we understand the beef. Now there has been some issues. Even Sean King himself saying there's been issues with his fundraising abilities. So let's listen to fundraising fraud claims. One. One of the critiques of you is that you're good at creating stuff, good at building stuff, and good at fundraising for stuff. But then somewhere between the conceptualization and the execution is a gap. Oh, that's true. That is probably the best criticism of me that somebody can offer. Like, I'm a natural starter.

1:02:19 I've been fundraising my entire life. And so I know how to pitch an idea. I have struggled up until the past two or three years to figure out how to start something, grow it, and maintain it. And the organization that we started, Real Justice, is probably the best thing I've ever been a part of. Real Justice? So that's the Real Justice Pact, the one we spoke about before. So if you listen to him and say, okay, so now, Adam, you work with venture capitalists. So let's look at this in the light of a venture capitalist. I believe so. It's correct. Is that a correct statement? Well, you mean like Soros, he's more hedge fund than venture capitalist.

1:02:59 What I mean is, say, somebody, how, okay, this is my understanding how adventure capitalists work. Say I have the MoFax app, and it's the greatest thing since sliced bread, right? Yeah, okay. I'll be the venture capitalist. Right, and I want you to fund me. And I'll tell you, okay, this is how it's going to work, Adam. You know, it's going to be the best thing, you know, ever. And all I need you to do is throw your money in, you know, saying, behind the project. And we're going to be, you know, saying, we're going to change the world. Great. Great. So what is my return on my investment? Right. So, but you give me the money. Okay. So you say, okay. All right. All right. I believe you. I'm giving you the money. All right. You believe me the money. And then I come back to you, say, you know what?

1:03:44 Me implementing this idea is my problem. You know, I could come up with them. I have great ideas, but you know, that money you gave me, I just have problems with, you know, implementing the idea. That's basically what this guy just said. said. Yeah, I need some more in his last clip. How, how can you how would that work out? And, and, and, and I know I'm maybe comparing apples to oranges a little bit, but when you say you have an idea or you have a, you know, something that's going to change the world, and people invest in you, they expect some kind of like you, like you just asked, what's the

1:04:23 return on my investment? Now, it might not be money, but you want to see results, right? Well, what we call this executing, executing, okay. Now, if I come back to you, say, well, you know, Adam, my problem is really executing, yeah, right. Was that an acceptable excuse? No, that is not acceptable. That in fact, the only reason to come back for more money with the venture capitalists is because I can make you even more money if we keep pumping more into it. We can build more scale. But saying, I'm sorry, I couldn't execute. I need some more money is probably the worst thing you could say. But that's what he just said. So it's clearly. Let me be clear. This is from BET. This is from BET.

1:05:07 And he got no pushback. Nobody said, well, you know, a difference between like a dream and an idea is an idea. You can actually, you know, materialize it. Execution. Right. Execute. You can execute. But no, he, it's an acceptable excuse that he can't execute. And nobody gives him pushback. And I think that's what D-Ray is saying. And his article is like, dude, you got so much money, but we haven't seen anything change. Right. We haven't seen any fruits, you know, fruits, you understand, of this money or supposed hard work. All right. So that's one thing he brought up in this interview with BET.

1:05:52 Let's go to fundraising frauds too. But the truth is, because I am who I am, because I look how I look, there are doors that are open to me that sometimes shouldn't. Like, there are privileges and platforms that I get. There is this degree of even like light-skinned privilege and accessibility. Like, because I look how I look, that makes me more relatable to white people in white spaces. So, what I have to do, if I have some level of relatability that I didn't choose, I was born with it, I have to use it, I have to squeeze it, I have to maximize it.

1:06:35 So, Mr. Sean King, the ones always preaching about privilege this and privileged that, likes to use it. Is the recipient, recipient of light-skinned privilege. And that's inside baseball. This is a real category, this light-skinned privilege. It's called colorism. Oh, it's called colorism. Now, it is heavy in the black community. It is a real thing. But it's not exclusive to the black community. The reason why I say that is the Indian caste system is based off of colorism.

1:07:15 When you go to Brazil, it's colorism. So, what it is, is the lighter your skin is, the more accessible or acceptable you are to white society. Now, let me make the point out: D-Ray McKesson is dark skinned. Yeah. So, I was just sitting here. I was just reflecting. I'm trying to think how would I feel different getting a pitch from light skin or dark skin? And I was just, I was contemplating it. I don't know. But I'm sure it exists.

1:07:55 I'm sure it's real. I'm not saying I can't speak to how it is perceived from the white side. But some people in the black community, and I'm not going to say all, I never say all in anything, believe that light-skinned people have an easier life. Now, where that hits me is, I have two children that are brown skin. I have two children that are light-skinned. I don't think, you know, I don't think one gets privileged more than the other. But I think this thought is taught at an early age.

1:08:36 And I think two things are being conflated here. Well, MTV. Okay, great. I'm sorry, just to interrupt you. MTV did a MTV decoded video where they say colorism is not racism. Do you remember that clip? Vaguely. Do you want to just hear that for a second to hear how the young people are being taught? Today, we're talking about a mode of discrimination that predominantly impacts people of color. And you might be surprised hearing this from me, but this episode's not about racism. I'm talking about colorism. First, let's be clear about what the word colorism actually means. Colorism is not synonymous with racism, it's a form of discrimination based on skin color.

1:09:19 And before you're like, wait, isn't that like the literal definition of racism? Hold on to your social constructs because we're going to knock a few down. And today, we've got a special guest to help us with this demolition project. Hey, Lee, let's break this one down. Glado Casi. As a Latino of color, colorism is something I'm all too familiar with. Racism involves discrimination based on things such as skin color, but it's also dependent on power dynamics that become perpetuated by years of structural oppression. Black and Latino men getting longer sentences for the same crime as white men, racism. Black and Latino aunts telling you to date light-skinned men, colorism. Because we often complain race with skin color, sometimes distinguishing between colorism and racism can get tricky.

1:09:58 Colorism. It sucks. This is one way racism and colorism are different. Systems of oppression favor white people, meaning black people can't technically be racist towards other black people. But clearly, in this case, they can and do perpetuate colorism in their own communities. The discrimination is coming from inside of the house. Example number three: language. There's a pretty common phrase people in Puerto Rico and the Dominican Republic grow up with. Cafre. Among Spanish speakers in the Caribbean, the word means someone low class or brutish, and is said by people of all colors and racial backgrounds. The word implies you're acting darker in both complexion and behavior, but the word itself carries a linguistic and cultural connection to blackness. It shares roots with the South African racial slur, Kafir. Wow, there's a lot in there.

1:10:43 There's a lot in there, and we're conflating two things. Yeah. We have to understand where that thought process comes from. Okay. So, to okay, so if you have a group of dark-skinned people, the way you get light-skinned had to be through interracial relations, sex. So that means that you have a parent or lineage from white people. So that's where that thought process comes from of lighter skin privilege. And it's a real thing because going back now,

1:11:24 going back in slavery, the master kids that were his kids by a slave would often be given their freedom. And so they created this subclass in black society where they were not quite white, but they were above black people. And that's where it comes from. And just a long story short, but you have the brown paper bag test, you had the pencil test. Well, yeah, well, I'm serious. Where in the late 1800s, early 1900s, you couldn't come to certain meetings or marry into certain families if you were darker than a

1:12:10 brown paper bag. What the fuck? That's crazy. Wow. This is true. And Spike Lee's movie school days cover this. Even sororities and fraternities were the same way. That's why if you go back and look at certain pictures from that Devon Nine Greek fraternities I was telling you about at a certain time point, you would only see fair-skinned people in these organizations with certain hair textures. They wouldn't marry white. So say if you were light-skinned, you wouldn't marry white, but you would only marry light-skinned. So, I interrupted you. You were going to tell a personal story about your kids, and I think I interrupted you. I'd love to hear what you're going to say. Oh, well, like I said, I don't think people

1:12:57 nowadays feed into colorism as much. Because, like I said, I have brown-skinned children and light-skinned children. I treat them equally. I make them equally responsible. But like I said, what we're dealing with is from the past. These are very old mindsets. But as you know, with any privilege, people want to point it out when it doesn't benefit them. Of course. And it's amazing that he openly said, oh, yeah, I benefit from light-skinned privilege. But going back to the TED Talks from the Black Lives Matter

1:13:35 clips that we heard before, there was one clip that Miss Alicia Garza said that I found interesting. The reality is that race in the United States operates on a spectrum from black to white. Doesn't mean that. that people who are in between don't experience racism, but it means that the closer you are to white on that spectrum, the better off you are. And the closer to black that you are on that spectrum, the worse off you are. Yeah. So even she acknowledges it. So going back to, I'm not, I'm not pro D-Ray. I think it's honestly this is the snake eating its tail

1:14:18 in this situation. So I'm just standing back looking like, but you knew this. I could have told you this was going to happen. I could have told you D-Ray was going to play the, he was going to play the colorist card, which he hasn't yet. But I mean, but that's really reviving some old shit that has no place in society in black society anymore, but yet it's being used. Well, yeah, that's a great point. But that goes to show you that any privilege can be used, even though it may not be functional.

1:14:59 I will say this, and I want to challenge you to do something. It's not only in our minds, the mass media has something to do with this. And the reason why I say this is: watch television on a commercial, you will never see a man with a woman darker than him. Except Barack Obama. Well, that's why he got so many credentials in the black community. And he understood that. And he understood that.

1:15:37 He said, I have to go get, you know, the most sister I can find and, you know, embed in that. Yeah. Kamala Harris. Yeah. Colorism has an issue. She had the colorism problem. She's darker than Corey Reed. But she's lighter than Stacey Abrams. Bingo. And Joy Reed should get off TV. But that's why Jerid gets away with murder. Yeah. Yeah. That's why Joy Reed gets away with murder. If Jory Reed was a, okay, say Jory Reed compared to a, what's the lady's name that's always on CNN? Always.

1:16:20 Ana Cabrera? No. No, no. She's fair skinned. Oh, oh, oh, Ray. But no. Right, right, right, right, right. Angela, Angela Rai. Angela Rai. Angela Rai. Why do I know all these black people, Mo? Come on. Because it's the great Twitter man. Angela Rai. Yes, we've got right. If Angela Rai was to say some of the things that a darker skinned woman has said, and you just said her name. God, I'm off today. But Joy Reed. What was the dark-skinned lady for MSNBC? Joy Reed. Joy Reed.

1:17:02 If Jory Reed, if Joy Reed words were to come out of Angela Rai's mouth, she would be canceled. Let's be clear on this. But when you're dealing with white society, Sean King says to get in to make people feel more comfortable. And we're talking about liberals here. Let's be, we're not talking about conservatives. We're talking about liberal, the most liberal thinking people. He even acknowledged that his light skin makes people feel more comfortable. So that makes you wonder: okay, his light skin has become an issue.

1:17:41 Clip twin. I have tremendous respect for the work that he's done. But when you're, if you hold yourself up to something that is not what you claim to be, then that's a problem if you're elite. Now, I'm not saying that he's doing that, but that is what's in question now. And that's why this story is newsworthy. Here's what he said to me. So I asked him about it because there are all these claims about him, whether he's black, white, biracial, or whether he's, was there a civil hate crime that happened to him back in 1995. And I said to him last night, I said, what would you like to convey? And he said, number one, this attack isn't about me so much, but about derailing Black Lives Matter and the movement against police brutality. And he said, number two, the reports are all lies. I tried hard to debunk them. And others have said,

1:18:26 and others have said, that they are lies as well. And then he said, I will speak soon. And I asked him specifically, I said, you know, are you legally black? Are you legally white? Or are you biracial? Are you black or white? He says, I am biracial. And I said, is that what it is on your birth certificate? He did not answer. I'm going to say this, and I am not a birther. I need to see that birth certificate. I need to see it. Sean King, people go look at him. He never struck me to be a black guy.

1:19:06 He never once struck me to be a black. As we pointed out on this show, when you're good for the movement, they give you a pass. Right. The reason why I say that is we recall Miss Rachel Doleza. Oh, my favorite. Well, Martha, I'll be honest with you. Until a few days ago, I thought he was a white dude. I had no idea that he was pretending or telling people that he was black. And I know some people out there are asking that very question that you just said right now. Well, why does this matter? It matters because for the past year, we have heard this phrase white privilege thrown around, thrown in people's faces.

1:19:49 It's been used as a way to divide. I mean, this isn't Sean King, by the way, isn't the first Rachel Dozel. Elizabeth Warren was the first one. Rachel Dozel was the second Rachel Dozel. And now he's the third. And it just seems incredibly ironic. You know, he was born in Kentucky. And I just brought up a picture to take a look at it. I mean, he could be Latino for all I know. And even then, he'd be very, very light-skinned. Very light-skinned. And if like I said, he's never struck me to be a, I mean, when I saw him, I didn't say that, oh, that's a black guy.

1:20:33 I'd like to see him with his hands. I'd like to see him with his hair longer. Then I'd get a better idea. We have to do the hair test. And he's did the chameleon thing. He's embraced the black hairstyle, the mustache. You know, same way Rachel Dolezao, which was a 100% complete white woman with a mustache. People don't remember. When she put the braids in, the skin toner, tanner, however you want to call it. Yeah, she said she identified as black and she ran a local chapter of the NAACP. It was fantastic. A great story. But so why do we cancel her

1:21:18 and Sean King gets a pass? Because she admitted her parents came out and said she's white. And that's, I don't know who Sean King's parents are. Right. But for you to say you don't bring forth your birth certificate, it's just weird. But as we saw with Gandhi, as we saw with Caesar Chavez, we saw with as long as the imagery is good for the movement, we'll give you a pass. And this is not only exclusive to Sean King, the lady brought up with Elizabeth Warren. She got a pass. Oh, yeah.

1:22:03 She should be canceled. You mean the whole Pocahontas thing? Yeah, absolutely. She appropriated somebody's culture. Yes. But she gets a pass because she's for the greater good. And this is their thought pattern for the greater good. But let's listen. When you say the greater good, we're talking about the greater good for the money that the people, for the people who are holding the money, who are going to give the money. Right. It's their great good. For the movement. Right. For the greater good. If we can make this story go away, and it's the clip before the last one we played, that was Don Lemon. He was supposed to press Sean King, but everybody has hands off.

1:22:46 This is what I think. Everybody has the hands off on Sean King. Whenever you can motivate the raising of $30 million, you're going to be not going to, you're not going to be canceled. And it's not exclusive to him because the same way Elizabeth Warren's not canceled because she's the frontrunner from the Democratic nomination. She is the leading woman candidate and she wasn't canceled. But let's listen to Sean King Dolazao too. I mean, he had once suggested to a friend of mine, Lawrence Jones, who's a black conservative, that he wasn't black enough somehow.

1:23:29 I mean, I've watched this guy sit here and call people white supremacists and use the term white privilege and throw around these terms. So, yeah, if you're going to kind of throw around those terms and be out in someone's face, face as the judge and jury of blackness or whiteness, and this comes up and there are records showing that your dad is white, yeah, it does become an issue because it shows that it's ironic and you're a hypocrite. And if the color doesn't matter, Andel, then why throw all of those phrases around from him? Well, I don't know what phrases you're referring to, but even Jesus, when asked about his brother and his mother, said, Those people that do my father's will and obey what he says, those are my brothers and sisters. And Jesus never lied about God being black. And as much as I like to hear Dana, I'm going to have to go with Jesus.

1:24:16 Hey, you can't argue that. Now, what you've just witnessed is a mind control technique presented by the male speaker in this clip to mind control black people. As we've listened before, who do we say was on the wall? Yep, we got Jesus. We got, well, now or before? Before, before. MLK. Malcolm X. Jesus. No, it was Malcolm X, JFK. JFK and Jesus. I'm sorry. Yes. You're right. And now replaced by Oprah, Beyonce. Is Jesus still there? No. No, he was replaced.

1:24:57 Serena Williams. Serena Bush was. Well, you know what? I got to say she is kind of Jesus. I'll give her that. Right. So, but as you've seen, that was a deliberate mind control answer to say, and you're saying, interject Jesus into the conversation to, I hate to say the word again, to mind control black people. Right. Now, Jesus said, who's my brother? Who's my mother? You know, how does that even equate? And in the previous back and forth between these two people, he interjected MLK talking points.

1:25:38 Yeah, okay. So he said, you're using the triggers. He was triggering black people 100% because he says, it's not about the color of your skin, but the context of your character. Yeah. Oh, so this guy was, it was disgusting. It was disgusting what he did there. And you see, they're pulling all stops out to protect Sean King. But Malcolm X warned us about people like Sean King and how liberals will use them. Zero-Zero. I'm suspicious of whites who join Negroes and always have to be in the lead, who always have to be the head, who always have to be at the top in Negro organizations.

1:26:21 Those whites who really have the interest of blacks at heart, let them give some advice to some Negroes and stand on the sideline. But don't join the organization and then get at the head of it and pose as a friend of Negroes. Today, you could point to a large number of Negro leaders who have consistently betrayed Negroes in a whole host of areas. They aren't really Negro leaders. These are puppets that have been put in front of the Negro community by white liberals. These are parrots that have been put in front of the Negro community by white liberals. You can't name me. A Negro leader who has been a Negro leader who has been betrayed Negroes, who has not been endorsed, sanctioned, subsidized, and supported by the white liberals.

1:27:04 Yeah, that sounds like Malcolm X, that's for sure. So to bring out the point, what he's saying is before we could even get off the ground, we have to always deal with these infiltrators. And this is what the claim that D-Ray is making, not that he's a white guy or anything like that, but just that this guy's misappropriating funds, he's stealing money, you know, he's disingenuous, these things. It's only, but see, D-Ray is self-serving. Where were you at when you were hot? Right.

1:27:46 And let's not forget, we saw the clips before D-Ray was accused of the same thing: misappropriating funds, stealing Sean from the people on the ground in Ferguson. So, like I said, this is the snake eating its tail. So this is where we're at with this story. But as I did some more digging, as I always do, I found out I found a potential smoking gun. Tom Jordan and Sean King won. But the most important thing we can do, I'm going to shape most of my work on this in 2018.

1:28:27 The most important thing we can do is to elect progressive, woke, conscious, reform-minded processes. prosecutors. No single individual plays a bigger role in the criminal justice system in this country than the district attorney. Ah, I knew you'd get to the Soros sisters eventually, Mo. Woo! I love it. That is the, you're right. That is ground zero right there. And that's Kamala Harris. That's who's in Chicago. I mean, it's everywhere now. Kim Fox. Kim Fox, yes. I mean, I have a list of like 10, 15 names. And like I said, these things, these people are aligning on one agenda.

1:29:13 That's two, what, two agendas. But one is here that it is trade. One is the flipping the House and the Senate. As you heard Cardi B say, she said, we. Yep. We got the house. Yes, she said, we. No, she said we. Yeah, we got the house. Right. And now you have a Sean King who's on Tom's Joyner radio show, which Tom Joyner. I have high, high regard for Tom Joyner. I'm hoping that he pushed back on Sean King in this interview. Hell no. You know why? How long do you know why?

1:29:53 Tom Joyner is a business associate of News One. Oh, okay. Got it. Radio One. Yeah. Now you heard why the first clip was so important. Yes. Was so protective of Sean King. And I like Tom Joyner. Oh, man. But Tom Joyner, he's old, not in a sense, I mean, not saying like that, but he's not trying to pick fights. He's not trying to make enemies in high places. He gives Sean the platform. You come on, you say you're spiel. You know, you know, I'm not going to push.

1:30:33 Why at this point in his career with Tom Joyner pushback? Now you could look at on the inverse and say, what do you have to lose? Right. But why now? He's kind of the OG Charlemagne in a way. Right. That's. I'm learning. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yes. And just to go to show you why we say why is black radio. Now we heard we, it's another common theme in this show that we're doing here or this conversation repeatedly is black radio. Yeah. Black radio is so influential in black culture because

1:31:14 it's access to free entertainment in your car as you say at your desk. You know, and it's kind of waning now. Or, you know, satellite radio with satellite radio and then people with the Oxcords and Bluetooth, you know, it's kind of eating into black radio. But black radio at one time was the end-all be-all of black entertainment. For sure. And when I worked in New York, the Z100, which for sure, Cracker White Station, you know, the biggest competition was BLS, was

1:31:54 KTU. I mean, yeah, black radio has always been very successful in urban markets for sure. Because it's accessible. It's free access. Yeah, I'm with you. All you need is an FM radio. You can down right in. And if you need to put talking points out there, it's free over the radio waves. So now we see from the beginning of the first clip to the end, Sean King is the it guy. Yep. He's the it guy. He's protected. Because when I heard that first clip, I was like, why is this guy? He's not even being fair, you know, to, you know, giving both sides of the story.

1:32:37 Because I read both articles and I was waiting for him to drop some of the, you know, talking points of D-Ray. And it wasn't there. It was all, well, Sean, you know, dropped 72-page report, everything, nothing to see here. Seven panel, seven-person panel has been cleaned up. Nothing to see here. So I'm like, why is that? And then when I looked at it, I was like, oh, radio. I mean, News One is a product of Radio One. And then that's why, just a little behind the scenes, I was freaking out right before we were doing the show because the podcast monsters didn't want me to have that clip I just played.

1:33:22 It was trying not to get on the air, but we got it. Yeah. Right. We shut them down. I mean, because. now you see he is part of the Soros Sisters apparatus. Now, why? Why is that? I don't know, but maybe he'll shine light on Tom Jorner's part two. Our nation has 2,300 of them operating in every county and in every medium to large city in America. No role, no bigger person has a larger impact on who goes to jail and who doesn't, who gets prosecuted and who doesn't, than the district attorney.

1:34:02 No single person plays a bigger role in whether or not corrupt and violent police are not only charged with crimes, but also get convicted than the DA. They are essential. And let me tell you something that's both shocking and disgusting. Over the 2,300 elected DAs in the United States, 95% of those elected DAs are white, and 81% of them are white men. In a nation that's on its way to becoming a country of color, 95% of district attorneys are white and they are largely conservative. It may very well be the whitest, most conservative, male-dominated profession in America.

1:34:46 Then I'm sure that's absolutely right. So let me ask this question then. So 95% are white, right? So that means 5% are non-white. Of that 5%, Kamala Harris was one of those 5%. How did she do anything different than, you know, and she's liberal because he brought up conservative. She's a female black liberal, but she locked up people, used people for basically slave labor. So what's different? I mean, what do you expect different? As long as he, you know, I don't understand.

1:35:30 When she does it, at least she looks friendly when she's doing it. I think that's, I don't understand what we expect differently. Well, let me take a stab at this because, you know, it's always, oh, Soros, this, Soros, that. And on the No Agenda show, we've talked about this. Ultimately, very rich, the rich elites want to control chaos so they can protect their own shit. That's ultimately what they want. They want to be able to control it. Now, in this case, it's more of the same, except you better believe that Kamala Harris is under control.

1:36:14 I totally agree with you. And as you brought up on the No Agenda Show, and maybe listeners haven't heard this talking point. Now we're starting to see these more liberal DAs saying, well, anything under $1,000 ain't really a crime. Yeah, you're so right. So, okay. Now, if I'm a poor person living in a poor neighborhood, which crime happens very high, I'm saying a high rate, that $1,000 affects me differently than if I'm, you know, some one of these people that make combined income of $350K living in the same gentrified neighborhood.

1:36:57 It's like, it's just part, you know, it's just reparations or whatever. Oh, no. No, it's, it's completely bull crap. And, you know, California, certainly Los Angeles, and I think San Francisco as well have ordinances where it's like, yeah, anything under, I think it's at $750 or $1,000, but it's like anything under that. We're not even going to show up. The cops aren't going to show up, not going to do anything, can't deal with it. It's a crime of necessity, I think is the term. Yeah, which is lawlessness, really. So, but now I'm going to put my conspiracy tinfull hat on. If I'm trying to get rid of poor people in prime real estate

1:37:42 and I can't drive them out, you know, with raising prices, what's the first vehicle to run people out of the neighborhood? High crime. Crime. High crime. You got it. Wow. It's so cynical, man. It's so cynical. I know. But that's the only way I could look at it is we've seen it with the crack era. We've seen it with other influx of crime. You know, they're going to let crime happen. It drives them out of prime real estate areas that are taken over by poor minorities.

1:38:22 It's just not a black thing, you know, poor people in general. general. And if we can't force them out, you know, and gentrification has got to get in a black eye right now. So we can't, you know, just gentrify them. Right. We make them leave. We'll crime them out. Yep. Yeah, we crime them out. And then, you know, oh, well, look what they did to their own communities. Yeah, and I'm sure the redistricting, which is always done under the guise of we got to screw the Republicans or the Republicans are trying to screw us, but this would be another great way to district crime into certain areas. It's an eye-opener for sure. Yeah. Well, I can't wait until Kamala Harris is our president. It's going to be great.

1:39:06 That'll never happen. Wow, Mo. This was good, man. This was good. I got a couple things to look into, but definitely, I wonder what the next round is going to be of this medium fight because they've moved it beyond Twitter. Personally, I think the people will tune out pretty soon if they're, you know, if they're, if they want to get in depth, they have to read 70 pages of financial reporting. And, you know, that's kind of, that's not how you change public opinion. That's not how things change typically, unless there's illegality that can be proven. But I haven't seen that yet from this back and forth. Well, the 72-page report works perfectly because it's like, hey, I'll drop the 72-page report.

1:39:49 It's all there. Right. Shut up. But you bury whatever's there because people are like, they're going to gossip over by page one or two. Yeah. And just another example of these medium articles are great for screenshotting and then posting on Twitter. That's how that's how that thing works. You post it there, then you highlight something, you screenshot it, and then you post it back on Twitter. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Wow. Well, Mo, thank you very much for yet again an hour and a half of just fantastic stuff. I'm glad you enjoyed it. And I hope all the listeners enjoy it as well. And they find value in it. Yeah. You've burst my bubble here when it comes to Tom Joyner.

1:40:34 I'm a radio guy. You know, Tom Joyner is famous for doing two stations in one day, flying back and forth. I mean, he's a fantastic radio guy. But now that I hear that he's all in, that's disappointing. He's off the Christmas list. All right, Mo, thank you very much. Actually, I should back this up for a second. I need to remind everybody that you need to go to mofax.com to find out everything that's happening with the show, but most importantly, to donate. You can hear the amount of time that's put into this program.

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1:41:52 See you next week, everybody. You really don't understand, do you? Hey, man, don't you realize in all of us to make this thing work? Man, we've got to get rid of the pimps and the pushes and the prostitutes and then start all over again clean. Hey, look, nobody's pushing me anyway, okay? I mean, not you, not the cops, nobody, man. I mean, you want to get rid of the pushes, I'll help you. But don't send your people after me. John, can't you see that we can't get rid of one without getting rid of the other? We got to come down on both of them at the same time in order for this whole thing to work for the people. Look, nobody's closing me out of my business. Brother's gonna work it out. Brother's gonna work it out.

1:43:39 Brother's gonna work it out. Our brother says, Stop the pipes, the hustle up, the push a man as fast as you can. Open your ears and eyes to the fact of what's truly holding you back. Brother needs your help. Now, can't you see? Oh, he's got to have it all right. Brother's gonna work it out. Brother's gonna work it on.

1:44:31 Now the real sign, all the answers to your problems. You can't find yet, you stay locked behind the feet. Yet the key is in your mind. Out of the window, brother shrugged. These marked things about stock and live and stealing kids. But brother's gonna work it out. All brothers gonna work it on. Brother's gonna work it out. Brothers gonna work it on. Brother's gonna work it out.