Topic: Pentagram

A caller discusses the Order of the Eastern Star, a female branch of Freemasonry, and its alleged influence on Mormon rituals and symbols. The caller points out the presence of pentagrams on the Mormon Tabernacle, and the hosts mention that former Texas Governor Anne Richards is reportedly a member of the Eastern Star.

A self-identified pagan caller asks the panel to define "pagan" and questions why Christians often view her as an enemy. The Vineyards define paganism as any belief system that is not Christian, while the caller explains her view of Jesus as a brother and teacher rather than a deity. The discussion touches on the historical persecution of non-conformists by organized religion.

The pagan caller explains her choice to wear a pentagram as a symbol of harmony with the planet, while criticizing the cross as a symbol of an execution device. She denies being a Satanist, stating she believes in evil as a human capability rather than a supernatural entity. The segment explores her belief in a collective energy and a form of post-mortem judgment.