Valentines Day Survivors - The Wrap Up #27

00:00 Welcome dads and mums, and anyone else that's listening. It's that time of the week, the wrap up! And a Valentine special. Roll theme... Welcome to Team Super Dad. Real dads creating their best lives ever, more time, more money, more fun! You are not alone you're on Team Super Dad. Hey welcome good afternoon good evening good morning it is that time of the week to wrap up we don't know where you are what you're doing but we do know it's Valentine's Day this Friday I'm pretty sure that is worldwide and

00:39 And so you probably listen to this as a survivor, hopefully a survivor of Valentines Day. But as always my good well-esteemed guest Mr Glen aka A Dating Dad is joining us. Glen how are you doing? I am still getting in with that funky bass that kind of slap funk from the intro music it sounds almost Seinfeld esque Oh, and we were just talking about Seinfeld indeed. Well I did actually search Audio Jungle for funk and like funk dance how... And so somewhere in amongst all the songs i was looking to buy yeah up it came. I think he's even got Funk! In the name but uh yeah so if you've listened to the podcast for a while you'll know that has been our introduction for the last two and a bit years

01:29 I broke through the thousand downloads slash listens the other day, which actually after two years should be higher than that. But at the very least i'm going to celebrate a thousand because it's definitely a milestone and they say doing something like 27 is a number you've got to get past 27 we're already into I used to record a dating podcast called Swiped Out and we only managed to get 23 episodes in because my co-host disappeared literally when coronavirus started. She just went off and walked away from all public life, but yeah i mean we barely got through

02:10 1,500 listens an episode so we had a long way to go before we actually got up there in the ability to go on tour sort of stakes. Well, still 1500 per episode. That is good! We are we are some way off that well and listen if you are listening to this then pick up the flipping rope guys let's share this with other friends tell a friend what else they're doing with their time these days nothing they should be hanging out with us metaphorically speaking exactly so if you are listening right we're going to do podcasters first if you're listening go back into the app Click the little arrow thing, copy link and share the Team Super Dad podcast with other dads that you know. Indeed mums as well I know we have plenty of mums. I probably get more feedback from mums than I do dads. Yeah but what they say? They just say they find it funny and they like the fact that we're talking about these things and obviously i've got the more serious episodes that drop in a week

03:07 And then we have the wrap up which is obviously hilarious banter. I had feedback from my mum last week and she was like, Glen that sounded wonderful but I had to stop listening when you started talking about sex it's not that...I'm not that sort of listener! So hi Mum, Hi! Well, do you know what's happened to Anthea Turner this week? I saw her trending on Twitter. Do you know what she's been doing? Yeah she's being all ableist and saying things which... Some people should just know there are inside thoughts and there are outside thoughts and all of Anthea Turner's outside thoughts actually probably should be inside thoughts! Just don't say them Anthea! If Anthea Turner and Right Said Fred are on your side,

03:53 Oh now I'm even more intrigued but it's probably not that much fun. Is it like corona stuff or? Yeah, yeah! It is basically ableism and you know who should and shouldn't be getting care and who deserves it and fat people shouldn't uh be putting strain on the NHS and all this sort of stuff and as much as some people might agree with it you're not going to be able to explain that in any way shape or form that doesn't sound offensive to some people Yeah, yeah. In a really well-balanced utopian society you could have a sensible conversation without being judged but the very fact that you're saying it probably means the average person doesn't have the intelligence to hold that conversation! I know...I know a guy, Eddie we'll call him Eddie because that's his name and he like spouts off loads of stuff like conspiracy theories

04:45 All stuff to do with like government and tax and space. And you think he's just spouting off, yeah whatever...and then he hits you with stats and links and I was like okay well that is I suppose fascinating but also I didn't really care that much! The more you have to convince someone your point of view is right, and when there's so much evidence against it... You're probably wrong. Not always but probably wrong! Just like I never listen to anyone who says that Arsenal are a football team worth supporting No amount of evidence is ever going to convince me otherwise

05:25 Well, yes. Of all the Tottenham's sort of rivals I've probably struggled most with Chelsea and that's because obviously didn't live in the belly of The Beast. I also stood behind the goal when Tor Andre Flo scored four and we lost 6-1 back in the 90s and that did burn an incredible burn on my psyche! Literally behind the goal The week we've had with football, I'm happy not to talk about football very much even though it's a subject that is dear to my heart. Um um i've decided that for the foreseeable future until the Formula One starts up again it's all about the cricket yes well we we we've done well not to talk about football too much in you know in all of the wrap-ups but do you know what? I love it when you go to go to a business networking thing or you go to a conference and there's some random who

06:16 starts his whole talk by talking about something that's just happened in football. Like someone has won the FA Cup, right? And I was actually... this was a real thing that happened so he stood there and he was a Chelsea fan So we stood there and he was like so chuffed that Chelsea had won the FA Cup He took up about five minutes of his talk and completely alienated first of all There are women, yes that do support football but in a in that kind of setting you're probably going to have a hedge on the side of there's less women here than like football. So he just alienated all those then you've alienated anyone that wasn't a Chelsea fan and basically his whole thing was just doomed from that point on.

07:02 But with that in mind, I'm happy to move on until Spurs start winning again. Yeah yeah so in terms of running order today we've mildly failed Glen! We were working on getting some women onboard... Story of my life! I know that's what I was about to say! So our Valentine special It's Glen and I, okay? But curiously... Oh we've got some comments coming in. Good! Someone says a perfectly appropriate timing. We'll bring in one of our viewers slash listeners in a second with this Valentine's point but we are getting this crazy feedback Glen. I think it's coming from your end. Okay I'll turn my microphone off because that's probably the best way for me to contribute into the show

07:55 Oh yes, the ringing noise has now gone. So yes our rundown today we're going to talk about Valentine's Day right and so when you listen to this you're probably going to be catching it like we're talking to the survivors basically but Valentines day is a curious thing I think...I don't know when did it get invented? We should google whilst I'm rabbiting on Glen you can google when do valentine's day start for me okay because It's always been this kind of male thing or so it seemed that men had to just go out and buy cards and buy flowers. And you know the old classic milk tray advert, a man swinging in his black spy outfit

08:35 But yeah, so where are you at Dads and what happened? Basically we've got... Are you prepared for Valentine's Day? Are you desperately searching Amazon for Amazon Prime available in 24-hour deliveries. Are you scouring your local supermarket or garden centre for lockdown? Lockdown purchases, right? Because you can't go anywhere else shopping. And what about getting creative as you stare into your kid's make and do box or maybe you'll risk the wrath of your partner by clearly presenting her with a petrol station card and obligatory box of crappy overpriced chocolates!

09:14 I'm happy to say, I don't think i've ever done the petrol station in Crappy Card. Yet! Yet is the most powerful word in the English language. But I have found out some stuff about Valentine's Day. Of all places, CBeebies! Brilliant for finding stuff out so he was a Roman priest in the 3rd century who thought that married people would make rubbish soldiers because they were so scared of dying and their missus and all that that they wouldn't want to fight So they banned guys from getting married but he used to marry people in secret just in case. They found out, they killed him on 14th of February... sentence to death while he was in jail and fell in love with a jailer's daughter when he was taken to be killed he sent her a letter signed From Your Valentine and that is where it kind of stemmed from the first Valentines Day was in 496 AD Education knowledge is the bomb

10:16 490 AD, after death. Okay so wowsers! As traditions go it's hung in there We've been disappointing women in terms of Valentine's gifts for 1600 years now and I see no reason to break that tradition. I'm just soaking that in for a moment there you know Romans of all the things they did, they used to dip people in wax and then set fire to them as a mad stuff. All the time? No just a few of them you know how else are we going to keep a coliseum that size warm I mean there's a lot of energy stored in a human body it's just the eco warriors at their time really

10:59 I just love the idea that they could invent sewage systems and roads and water, how to pump water for all parts of the house. Next on the list, dipping Christians. Oh good I've been looking forward to this one! How's it work? Well it's genius because you take a Christian and dip them in boiling wax... Ah well done Claudius Maximus! Maybe that's where the whole fad of kind of dripping wax onto human skin comes from and the kind of sensual sexual elements are there

11:34 Oh yeah, could be. I'm telling you absolutely 100% it's not but um yeah iIm trying to create some sort of link between horrific torture and romantic get-togethers It's a good link what do they call that? Segway! Yeah, good segway. I nearly fainted at the Tower of London once What on earth were you doing naked dripping candle wax into your skin? My cousins are over from Chicago and we were doing London stuff. And so they said, oh yeah let's go to the Tower of London! So I've been multiple times but i had a jacket on and a backpack and we're standing in like the long corridor at early parts and so they said if you look above you right...so you have to look up

12:24 put people inside these cages and like, so they're like hang them in the streets of London to put people off doing dodgy things. And then as I'm looking up and he said something about yes and if you were really unlucky they would put a spike up through your anus inside of you which didn't kill you instantly you just died a slow painful death but as i'm looking up I really pictured this in my mind I'm fully wobbled back onto the floor. That was hilarious! Because in that next moment all of a sudden my family are laughing at me, so this deadly serious moment and being laughed at yeah? I do know that Iron Maidens weren't real Medieval Iron Maidens didn't exist they were invented by the Victorians just to seem kind of more harsh Oh good good bit of

13:18 My brain's gone blank today. What is that when you... propaganda! Good bit of historical propaganda, yeah? Yeah they just liked kind of making things seem a little bit weird and a little bit archaic and a little bit brutal so... Can you imagine the job spec? The minds of the Victorians A job spec! We're looking for a copywriter someone with a propaganda background who's also absolutely twisted Intertorture, so preferably inter-torture killing rituals and other such weekend hobbies. Almost word for word I've seen that on Tinder but i haven't got any tinder dates for Valentine's! I'm gonna be woefully unromanced sadly

14:04 Well at the risk of torpedoing something before it's even started, I have been just tentatively chatting to an old friend school type days lady and yeah she doesn't live that far from us. She's attractive she's single where does Not really any catch, probably the only catch is she has a black Labrador and I have a kind of thing about dogs. I love dogs absolutely love dogs but if their poos are bigger than mine then there's a size limit of dog so it's just quite simple bar like if they do bigger poo's than me then... It's territorial kind of thing yeah who's the alpha? Who can who could do the biggest crap

14:55 Oh yeah I'd never thought of it like that. Oh my gosh, it's an inferiority complex oh dear! If you say there's no catch all it means is you merely haven't found the catch yet and then it's about whether you're willing to put up with the catch Oh, of course. Well my dad said and he uses a couple more swear words than I'm gonna do He says they're all nutters the best you can hope for is you find one who's less nuts than the others which actually probably pretty sound advice there definitely are you going to be getting her some sort of valentine's gift thing?

15:33 No, definitely not. Well first of all we've not even been on a date yet or second of all I'm not even sure she knows that she's in the running to go out on a date! In the running like there's like there's a queue if i'm outside or competition like it's take me out or something but uh but but but...no Valentines Day I errrr If I'm..I think if would I send someone a Valentine's day card? I don't know. I'd probably....if I did I'd make her one I think I don't know. That's a good question. Yeah, last year i got the first Valentine's Day thing I've had since being...since life changed and in it she wrote out the lyrics to Pulp's song Something Changed you know when I woke up this morning I had no way of knowing that in a matter of hours my life we would change the whole way we were going

16:26 Where we would be now if we'd never met. It's an underrated romantic classic song, one of the most romantic songs I've ever known and yeah it was one of the best Valentine's presents i've ever got because it was tailored for me and made for me and just meant something...it was good! Definitely Would that be sent to someone who you weren't actually in a relationship with? Would you use that as a gate, or what they call it, a gateway. Nothing see nothing that deep because we'd been together and connected really quickly and were really close at that point but if you only just started seeing someone then

17:06 That's scary levels of... You've got to be shallow. Yeah, not shallow you've got to be classic. We'll say we gotta be classic, you know flowers um chocolates and wine or something just entry-level romance basically and then you can build on that with something more special when when you connect a little bit I was thinking it is a card like your fit nice rack let's go out How are you still single mate? How are you still single with that level of romantic essence within you, I just don't understand. Okay so we've got to work on that maybe it needs to rhyme. So no roses are red

17:54 You're not fair. There's so many things I should say, but if my mum is going to be listening to this, I need to dial it down a little bit. Okay okay right so we're gonna... anyone could be listening they could have searched this podcast up Valentines Day now we're getting into the nitty gritty here okay? So if you're not in the relationship we can drop a card what kind of clue are we going to give? Are we are we gonna say It's me from around the corner or it's... No, we're going to all depends. It depends on whether this is the kind of something you want them to find out about so I had a Valentine's Day card couple years ago that was posted through my door hand delivered and to this day i've got no idea who it was from and so that was nice it was lovely for me

18:40 But like I gotta say, what's the point? Why would you do that? If you're sending a Valentine's Day card then either you're doing it altruistically and so it's just to make them feel good which is lovely but it's got to be part of a romancey wooing type thing surely. It's gotta be something where you're leading towards something. So you want them to find out it was you so you've got to leave a clue or two in there somehow without being really obvious about it. Yeah like dropping a condom in there as well I mean that's a statement of intent as much as anything else. Unless it's actually branded with your face on it, in which case thats not that subtle! Or you go wine condom and a fiver for the taxi home! Honestly you should be doing lessons in romance with Jonnie. It's a thing of wonder

19:36 I'm making myself laugh. You know it's bad news, if you're making yourself laugh there are problems yeah yeah title of my sex tape so okay so we're doing it because what do you remember the days of giant cards? Do you remember like... Yeah yeah giant cards and teddy bears have you ever done one of those i think i did a big card when i was a teenager Now, if you get a big card does that mean you've got to do big writing as well? Do you have to have a big marker because you can't write... You can't have a card that's the size of a movie poster and then write in a biro on it. I remember them! What's the point and what is someone going to do with that?! I just don't get it. I don't understand it um and I'll be honest

20:27 One thing that really frustrates me about Valentine's Day is the fact, and this isn't hashtag not all women, hashtag not all men. But it's almost always the pressure is on the man to be romantic towards the woman. That's pretty much what it is romance is one way when it comes to Valentine's day you never hear about Stories about a woman doing really romantic things to their men. And if you do, they're the exception rather than the rule so that's one thing I bloody hate about Valentines Day! I do have a not-for-air Valentines Day story which actually is, if there's an example of generous valentine acts from your female comp... person. And I have one! Okay so was that because it was Valentine's or was it because you're just just a beautiful man who someone would want to do that for anyway?

21:24 It was Valentines Day, we were in love and it was We had a wonderful evening, a lot of fun was had. And so and actually quite a fair bit of preparation went into it on her part and it was a complete surprise! So I did feel very loved afterwards yes. I guess we'll leave there until the after hours version? Yeah yeah but no I do get that you know Valentines Day is If it's anything, because I asked this week. What do you love about Valentine's Day? Is it a load of bollocks? What do you want the opposite sex to know about love and romance? And pretty much...I should have asked more of a debaucherous question. Or what was that word? Depraved? Depraved! I should have said like, what is your most depraved Valentines day story? I might've got some better responses back but yeah pretty much across the board

22:26 It shouldn't just be for one day of the year. Oh, and I'll tell you what the women did say here's a good one it's not actually answering your question maybe i should have asked this actually uh four different women said in different places it wasn't like following on from the from the from the feed right posted in various places said don't get me a decent present and a crap card like what two like there's like a car a card that says to sue happy valentine's day Love Steve. I've got to say, if someone was to say look you can either have a really nice card and an okay present or you can have a brilliant present and a crap card the present is the thing! The present is the thing that actually is going to last... A card? You read it and then what? What are you gonna do with a card whereas a present you're gonna use

23:18 True, but again we're giving insights into our first of all our married journey and second of all our current status both single and divorced. The women the four women that responded said And I guess actually pushed on the subject that they probably said, I'd quite like both. But what they really were saying was, I want some love and generosity and vulnerability in my card. I want to hear how much you love me. So it's not about the card? It's about the words that are in the card? Yes. OK sorry yes. Right okay. That makes more sense. Poor Card... well caveat actually here. Poor Card nice words going to be okay

23:59 If it's evident the poor card was purchased at the petrol station around the corner, then you may have to go big. Double big on the words! I think better than... keep warbling on, i think this is The Oven Repairman about to tell me he's coming round in half an hour You've gone quiet How about now? Is that any better there? Good, good. So romance is something that can be possible I know one time... One thing i did was I had no money at all so what I did is I nabbed some coloured paper from where I used to work and hand rolled the green paper into stems cut out little green leaves cut out a load of red petals stuck them

24:47 Petal by petal by petal together and said I'd made a rose and then made that a dozen of those wrapped up in and delivered them to my ex-wife's workplace, which was very weird walking through London with a bunch of handmade Paper Roses. And weirdly, I think it was well received but it did feel like a bit of a cheapskate but I guess its about whether you're putting time in versus effort so time and effort on that gift was massive even though cost was low Handmade paper flowers, paper roses, a dozen of those.

25:27 Yeah, mate. It took all day but I didn't have any money for regular roses so that's what i did and a few years later made up for that by doing...I did her treasure hunt around our neighborhood so local businesses all had a clue and she'd have to go somewhere and ask for a clue. You told us last week! No no that was my marriage proposal And this one, the last one was I think the last message was pack your bags. But it wasn't because I was kicking her out... You're donkey! It's the ultimate Valentines Day! Took her to Paris for the weekend, just out of the blue. So romance can be done! Guys are good at romance and we have that ability and I just think that I would like to...I would appreciate every romantic gesture just as much as i'm sure a woman would in that situation Well yeah totally everyone wants to be loved everyone wants to feel appreciated feel special

26:29 Here's the thing though, obviously doing it on other days of the year absolutely vital. I'd hate to be and well clearly hate to be sorry not together i'd hate to be not appreciated at all for 364 days a year and then be like You're the best! Oh yeah, you don't want to use up all the allocation on one day. Definitely romance is an ongoing thing I think Valentine's is okay to remind you that when was the last time he did date night? When was the last time he did it? It's a good checking point but if it's the only checking point you got through the year then you've gotta reassess where are going Yeah totally...I think a couple can go big on Valentines Day with all those

27:09 Like, boxes ticked. It's going to go both ways! I don't mean getting lucid... It's gonna go both ways we're gonna get both feel loved and appreciated by each other and actually it's gonna be the biggest celebration of our relationship for the year. Oh here's a good question right? Do we get blind drunk on Valentine's Day or do we keep it like Sorry, I said as soon as you say do we get blind drunk everything after that just like yes the answer is always no. You've got to be lucid enough to be there and would be present and be part of it

27:53 The Jonnie Jensen Show, That is a definitely like an act of chivalry, is to gauge your drunkenness to your partner. And especially if she's a wild one then you can actually inside you're like this is brilliant she's getting absolutely smacked because you know you have a lot of fun! A lot of fun oh my gosh

28:33 I mentioned this the other week actually about finding some fun women to hang out with or meet some new, new fun women. Not that my old female friends are not fun and actually that is the exact thing i'm saying is they are a lot of fun but you don't get to see them often but then maybe I am not much fun anymore? Do I like getting drunk as I used too? If you don't then I'm like Dorian Gray in that, I seem to be getting more and more enjoyable in that respect. As I get older I'm fine...I'm literally not just maturing like a fine wine only because I'm drinking so much fine wine! I think I'm just replacing the blood in my body with red So you're a good drunk, you're still a good drunk? I've been told this. I'm not someone that...I don't get angry or get melancholy or anything like that usually if i'm around people then it's just nice! Yeah, I'm okay with being drunk yeah. I'm a lightweight and that's for certain and I've always been a lightweight but I have these magic moments where

29:36 Gone good. I've actually drunk loads and managed to move from the drink I'd drunk too much of to the next drink just at the right time, not too early not too late like jumping from the beers and spirits when I went to uni right? I didn't first of all, really realize that I didn't like Stella. And also, I didn't realize that Stella got you as clearly as drunk as it did so but when I was suddenly at uni with a load of Northerners there wasn't really the option to ordering a Carling or some other lower alcohol percentage beer So yeah It was just it was it was just Stellar all the way Although we did start drinking. Do remember when Caffres was launched?

30:19 And it was about 5% nutty juice. They used to have that creamy top that came on, so we used to get cafres and have a vodka depth charge in it Oh my gosh, absolutely. I mean the combinations we used to drink... We actually got one drink banned at local bars you know it was a Chiki Vimto which is that yeah the Snakebite and Black, they got banned as well. Do you like Snakebite and Black? Yes, Snakebite and Black Yeah, cider and blackcurrant. Pretty much yeah um and then also cheeky vimto is my personal favorite. What was in a cheeky vimto? I genuinely can't remember but it tasted like an alcohol pop that's what it was! And one of my favourite ones was Smirnoff... what was it called? Turbo Shandy so you'd buy a pint of lager drink half of it then get smirn off ice

31:17 Paul, that was like a super sweet lemonade type thing. And then you just be able to neck it because it tasted like a soft drink. But of course, it was twice as strong cause you're getting twice as much the alcohol in there. It was yeah, it was bad and I know what this part of me that would kind of fancy one. I think that'd be quite nice these days. I might go get some smell of ice Oh man, like have a throwback night and drink all the drinks you drank when you were at uni. Drink more drinks 2020 White Lightning all that sort of good stuff. A boat race with a bottle of 2020. The red one has to be the red one surely!

31:56 I think if you're worrying about what color it is then you're doing it wrong. It's flavor isn't? No, its just sweet rubbish! Just get inside ya. Keep in there for as long as you possibly can. The red one of strawberry or cherry whatever was so much better than the apple one I'm gonna have to look into this again. I'm going to have to do some research, some first-person research. Okay, so when lockdown's over because it newsflashed that people haven't caught the last few wrap ups which by the way where were you and go back and listen to them turns out Glen and i of how many thousand miles are there in the UK? We live within about three miles of each other

32:39 As soon as we're out of lockdown, we can go and do this. We will have a live wrap up at something like The Swan in... or The Swan's a bit serious actually isn't it? Somewhere else in Westmoreland that is more debaucherous. Yeah! And we'll drink so you don't have to. We'll put in the effort and damage our own livers so that our good listeners can have access to this research. It's important. But deck we can take on the road. We could literally do a Brockmire, we could have a live... Have everyone turn up! Brilliant brilliant put it in your diaries gang uh the first weekend of um... One question for you in terms of Valentine's stuff what do you think is more important to be romantic at? Valentines Day or your anniversary? Anniversary yeah why how come because I think

33:38 The Jonnie Jensen Show, Jonnie Jensen, Glen, Team Super Dad, Valentines Day, Valentines Day, Valentine's Day, Valentine's Day, Valentine's Day, Valentine's Day, Valentine's Day, Valentine's Day, Valentine's To reconnect on that level, to think you know what no matter what crap we're going through we not only were so much in love but we had the best day and if whatever's going on right now if we can just focus on that and get back to that then we're gonna be happy forever. So yeah wedding anniversary So beautifully said, so beautiful. I should fart or something now shouldn't i? I should just put an edge back on that!

34:25 Talking of farting, we did a Joe Wicks video this morning. My fitness... By the way Daily Sweat is over in the Team Super Dad group if you go to facebook.com obviously groups team super dad I have it there's an everlasting post in there which is the daily sweats like us it's like an exercise accountability thing I've had back ache, shoulder ache problems over the last couple of months plus winter so i've been fully off the rails but back on and my daughter is basically the driving force behind that. So we've been doing Joe Wicks together right? We're doing Joe Wicks and then my boy comes down and goes oh you've got to watch this! And so whenever it was Joe Wicks if you search YouTube for Joe Wick's fart

35:08 There's this one of his mornings, the video starts about 10 seconds before he thinks it starts so he lets rip this massive fart and it just goes. Absolute gold! I can't remember who...I was having a chat with some friends and the subject of farts being funny came up and all the women on the call were very much of the no they're not funny there's no situation where they're ever funny whereas all the guys were just They just are. No one can explain it, but a good well-ripped one at the wrong moment is cracking up! It doesn't matter how sophisticated you are as person that is funny. Oh well I think women do... But it's like a closed shop when they're together. They're farting and doing flipping light in them and all sorts of stuff.

36:01 I think that, in fact, I do know some groups of women who... In fact the very fact that they're all there together and there's no blokes means that they can actually do those things. Though perhaps not on Valentines Day? No! Oh here's a good one. Farting whilst being given a blowjob – That is a bad move! There's been moments, I remember once going out and going out for dinner with someone. And I've got to be careful of my language here because i have young ears around but we went out for dinner and turns out the place maybe wasn't the most hygienic of places uh and we are mid that activity and you know that moment where the only thing I can think of in my brain is definitely don't fart because there's no way of guaranteeing it will only be farts

36:50 And firstly, you shouldn't be farting at that stage anyway. Secondly there are scales if you happen to break wind at that moment it's bad but it's not the end of the evening If it's more than that then not only is it the end of the evening but you're going to be on Reddit at some point with a description of what happened and there's nothing you can ever do about it You can't squeeze that toothpaste back into the tube No But it could define, like if you could come back from that and forge a positive relationship. You can't come back from that! You cannot no way on earth

37:26 If you've been together for 10 years at that stage, yeah sure fine. But if you've been together for a couple of months and in that situation that happens just pack! Just look down, just apologize and get out there. The thing is you're so relaxed it's such a great moment and you're just in the zone but then what? You're just holding it in? Yeah you have to or take a break Take a break. Like, gentlemen. Gentlemen-ness yeah okay so she says where you going and like trust me you'll appreciate this

38:23 I definitely want to be right back. Don't move, but yeah okay okay yeah i can see this it's the lesser of two evils mm-hmm yeah absolutely is the better the better of two paths yeah okay well i'm gonna write i'm gonna put that in my uh in my like flipping tips for life book let's go in although glen you got a feel again because i'm being asked by the other man again hold tight Fantastic. It's one of the things where you can, he says you just got a fill I mean firstly that is the title of Jonnie sex tape but secondly it has left me with nothing to feel so what i am going to say is Valentines Day is fun its nice good but don't make it be all and end all

39:10 But make sure the other person knows that you are, you know it exists and you're gonna do something. Why not actually put an un-Valentines Day in a diary? Just at some random point in the year just go to town that day as well! Maybe they can respond on March 14th if you've not heard about what March 14 is all about then I recommend you Google it because for guys its one of top five days in the year Top 5 days in a year. You've got birthdays, Christmas, maybe anniversary, FA Cup Final Day and then you've got March 14th so Google what March 14 is top five day boom! I've come in not knowing what March the 14th is blimey

39:59 You've got to Google that stuff, man. I just said it's top... so you've got your birthday, you've got Christmas, you've got anniversary if you've got anniversary, you've got FA Cup Final Day and then you've got March 14th Definitely wisdom here. This is knowledge that I'm not even going to charge you for, this is free! It's a gift from me to all you gentlemen out there and ladies if you aren't aware of March 14th trust me make it a thing and you can do whatever you want for March maybe April as well but just one evening of commitment oh it's an investment so an investment of time energy end and enjoyment

40:48 Yeah, I'm looking for the origins of it but doesn't actually... Well it's about um.. It started off in the third century in Rome. There was this monk and he was the top bloke at the monastery. He used it as a way to keep his monks like under control so one day a year he would let them have a release literally and the women from the local village would come Okay, good. Good stuff! Do you think though? I hope this is the case. So I'm looking forward to finding this out as I venture back into the world of relationships. Surely women are now more like involved and more generous and more part of Valentine's Day they're not just there waiting for

41:38 Yes, I mean with the caveat that every woman is different and every situation is different. Yes they are more involved but as with anything it's a societal pressure there's a societal inertia that says this is the way things should be done just like men having to pay for dates pay you pay for the first meal and all that sort of stuff as much as women say no no I always go Dutch I've been on a lot of dates and that doesn't happen very often. Sometimes women might offer, um and then you say no that's okay and they never say no i insist it's always okay and so you end up wedging out and it...so men are just the way things are and there's a whole variety of reasons why that is the case and it's the same with valentines yes some women

42:22 are much more likely to take part and so, to make it a thing. But it's definitely not universally seen that way. It just isn't. Wowzers! See I think... Oh no, that's just right? No. So on the first date there is definite expectation probably, definite and probably good good. Definite expectation that she will probably be thinking that I'm going to be paying The Jonnie Jensen Show, Jonnie Jensen, The Jonnie Jensen Show, The Jonnie Jensen Show, There's always the thing where they'll offer to pay, but generally speaking in my experience at least six or seven out of ten. At least possibly more either never offer or are happy to accept it if I say no it's okay I mean I'm okay to do that and a lot of the time if it's a case of you know I'll pay for this one and you pay for the next

43:23 They're happy to accept that even when they know there's not going to be a next one. And that for me, I don't like. Yeah so she should say actually no there is no chemistry here we won't have any next one and i will pay half of this as a nice evening thats not going anywhere. Oh yeah ok right! I'm gonna be a disaster at this I have to get some serious cards on the table before we go. Yeah, I've got a whole piece...I wrote a blog on kind of the financial cost of dating for men because it's huge and there are so many hidden costs as well that you just don't think about. Let me bring up because i actually did some sums about how much it costs the average guy to kind of go on dates

44:08 We know that women in my experience, they talk regularly about the cost of getting their hair done. Getting their nails done. Getting body grooming done. Buying clothes and makeup. There's a huge cost for women that they bring to it. That's unarguable as well. However, one study said that actually the average man goes on 13 dates a year and spends £1349 going on these dates now I think that's low. That's low balling it so we live just outside London don't we? Yeah! So just getting into London and home again plus the cab to and from is about 15 quid

44:50 Averaging out a new shirt every now and then, new pair of trousers or whatever. Even if you just average it out at £20 a pop that's already 35 quid! I've heard sometimes it's not...a lot of people don't want to just meet for a drink they want to do something a bit more so if you go into a gig or something like that then there is 30 quid ticket Then actually, you know that's 60 quid you're shelling out. That's not unusual I've taken people to gigs and football matches and shows and so on it just adds up there's sixty quid drinks Just a single cocktail in London is about tenner And you're buying at least even if you split the drinks each one that at least that is another 40 quid 45 quid or something like that then you got food Even again If they pay for half then that's 30 quid each maybe 60 So a typical date

45:39 It would not be unusual to see it cost anywhere from 110 to 170 quid. Totally, yeah! It's mad and if you're... like I was for a while going on a lot of dates in a short period of time my god it adds up really does Yeah prohibitive oh yeah totally worth it though well yeah yes chatting to a couple of other mates recently they're even during lockdown he's been getting at action or for me first date, second date and then it's like oh yeah she stayed over. It was like okay good work! Good work! That's the three-date rule it's one of those things I had to learn when I was starting today um and yeah the third date rule is a

46:27 The Jonnie Jensen Show, Jonnie Jensen, Team Super Dad, Valentines Day, Valentines Day, I can go into all outline, no detail. The commonly accepted norm is that if by the third date you want to go on a fourth or fifth... By the third date you should know whether there is any chemistry in that area and that's the thing you explore after the third day. If it gets to fourth, fifth, sixth or seventh date then actually

47:13 The Jonnie Jensen Show, Jonnie Jensen, Glen, Team Super Dad, Valentines Day, The Jonnie I say it's ridiculous. If you think it's right after the first date, go for it! If both of you think is right after the first date, go for it! If its after the fifth day, sixth, seventh, eighth, ninth whatever... Go for it! It's about what's right for you individually but it does seem to be this pressure that three dates are when grown-up sleepovers happen

47:58 Yes, it's either happening or it is not happening. This is going forward or this isn't going forward yeah. Yeah But I've got a whole world of things that I can say about dating as a dad so maybe we should do some slots on that one day if people have any kind of how to date as a dad questions I'd be more than happy to share my experience and research Yeah, we'll do a little dating mini series. How about that? That's good! We will get some women on this is definitely happening again we're getting some women on for once a month we're going to get some women on the wrap up and we might have to...

48:36 A bit like Brookside After Hours, you know, Brookie after hours. We'll have a wrap up with women dot dot dot I'm going to get slated although i have to say through some of my interactions...I can't believe it when you post some of these obviously single parent groups and parent groups and I've been asking around the internet this week about about Valentines Day and what's acceptable, what would you like to see? What would you like to happen that... That what a lot of blokes do is just rubbish. Yeah we're awful! And so even basic skills have kind of put you above the top 50%. If you buy a card and the worst pet, even at petrol station stuff that probably puts you in the top 50% of men and that's pathetic guys, pathetic

49:32 When I do a message in the card, I feel the thing. I'm like...I've stuck bits of paper in before so it folds out at the spot! Like one of those things that you do this with when you're six and you kind of unfold to get more space for writing? If I'm in love there's not enough space on the paper basically that is absolutely easy Who wouldn't want to do nice things for someone they're in love with? Blimey! I look forward to being in that position once again and exploring that in the future. Yeah, totally. And kind of on a serious note because divorce is not much fun... Being in a rubbish marriage isn't much fun either but it's not as flippin' walk-in-the-park single life so if you're a dad and you're listening to this and hopefully it's been a bit funny

50:24 Seriously, appreciate the woman in your life. Like make her feel special do some good stuff for her pull your weight give her a break like I don't know so my friend won't mind me sharing this he's one of the Team Super Dad members and after his breakup he was asking me about cooking and uh i said well what did you cook when you were together? He said oh I didn't Christ! I go hang on a minute I thought you were together 18 years It was like that joke at the end of Coming to America. Aha! That's why she had an affair, okay cool. No not the only reason but clearly we are modern men, modern dads we live in a world where equality is not such a flipping fight for equality now it should just be a flippin accepted... Of course you're gonna go to the shops, of course you're going iron your own shirt learn how to cook for flipping heck sake

51:23 Do nice stuff together and be brave as well. Be brave in what you want from the relationship, don't resent her and be fed up and pissed off about what you're not getting if you've never asked for it or if you ask for it and expect it but you've done nothing for her in the last 364 days let alone how long we've been together then clearly she's not going to be that excited about feeling in love and doing cool stuff for you so It's a quid pro quo, ever fluid situation and if you want to feel in love and have an awesome relationship then take responsibility for your side of things first before you can start to make any real demands or expectations on the relationship. I think it is a beautiful way to draw the thing to a close. I think that is a good message that everyone needs to remember. Yeah totes!

52:18 So, this has been the wrap up. We are here every week literally wrapping up our week we are from the Team Super Dad community real dads creating our best lives ever living a life we desire not the life you feel stuck in and forgot to mention got a challenge coming up next week Glen it is The Happy & Focused Dad Challenge five day challenge in the team super dad group Free, totally free. 45 minute 40 to 45 minute live sessions each day on different elements of getting focused like being really clear on what your morning evening routines are communicating better with your partner and having more fun not just in your relationship but in your life and so yeah the five-day challenge teamsuperdad.com forward slash happy dad

53:12 That seems to fit in quite appropriate with some of our chit-chat today in the wrap up. No, we won't be telling you how... well fact we will be telling you how to get a blowjob on your Valentine's Day but in more general terms of being a happy and focused dad so come on over and register it's totally free And if anyone does want to share their what amazing Valentines Day presents they either gave or received as well, I'd kind of like to hear a top three or top five best and worst valentine's gifts that you got this year. Or gave! So if you are... If you've listened to the end of the show it's like a 20% rule for people who listen at the end of shows. They're real heroes. They are super super dads

53:56 Some of my favourite podcasts. They acknowledge the people that listen all the way to the end and yeah, we feel like a little special club so welcome this special club! Send us whatever your favourite social is you can tweet at A Dating Dad or you can tweet at Team Superdad HQ and Glen I will get those there as for the other socials Instagram, pretty much the same thing. And Facebook just search TeamSuperDad.com you'll get the page sorry just to search Team Super Dad you'll get the page or the group Or you can like send me an email whatever it takes! It's all there. Yeah yeah send me a love letter. Glen great to hang out together as always

54:42 Likewise, and I'm quite relieved that you didn't even mention my haircut. So that means it's...I didn't do a bad haircut from home job by myself? No! From the back, I think I'm sure it just looks like a mullet. Yeah probably doesn't yeah very bad from the back but hopefully I won't be observing you from the back. You know what at this stage I'm not entirely ensure that I'd say no Epic. Yeah, do that dads let us know how your Valentine's Day went and we will name check you on next week's wrap-up Good stuff Team Super Dad out Bye This has been team super dad find us at teamsuperdad.com Join the program and create the best life ever for you and your children You are not alone Your on Team Super Dad