Saturday, 6 February 2021

Totally Wrong WhatsApp Messages - The Wrap Up #26

From the viral chaos of Handforth Parish Council to the launch of a vital new mental health anthology, this session tackles the complexities of modern fatherhood.

By The Jonnie Jensen Show | 1h 5m listen | 21 chapters
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About this episode

Jonnie Jensen and Glen, known as The Dating Dad, launch the anthology Being Fine: The Other F Word to address the male suicide crisis. The project features sixteen authors, including Olympic legend Eddie the Eagle Edwards, sharing raw accounts of bankruptcy, miscarriage, and mental health recovery. This initiative serves as a cornerstone for the Team Superdad mission to help modern fathers navigate the isolation of marriage breakdowns and professional burnout.

Glen details his history as a youth worker and football coach, advocating for communication skills over a win-at-all-costs mentality. The discussion shifts to the toxic culture of male WhatsApp groups, where members frequently circulate graphic content and bizarre videos. Additional segments cover the viral Handforth Parish Council Zoom meltdown, the dark humor of the Hank Azaria series Brockmire, and Jonnie Jensen’s early media rivalry with broadcaster Richard Bacon. The hosts also analyze the commercialization of Valentine's Day, citing Tesco’s marketing opt-outs as a necessary reprieve from forced romantic performance.

Personal mishaps provide the episode's levity, from a disastrous DIY haircut that left a permanent landing strip to a mortifying Christmas morning involving a poorly sized Wonderbra. Glen recounts a massive thirty-meter banner proposal at Tower Bridge while questioning why men are rarely the recipients of romantic gestures. Jonnie Jensen concludes with a preview of the Hero Academy March intake for fathers seeking a community of focus and fitness.


CHAPTER 01 / 21 Discussion

Team Superdad Podcast Introduction and Fiverr Voiceover Origins

Jonnie Jensen and Glen, known as The Dating Dad, introduce the weekly "Wrap Up" episode of the Team Superdad podcast. Jensen explains that the show's professional American-style intro was sourced quickly through Fiverr during the podcast's inception two years ago. The hosts establish the show's mission to help modern fathers improve their fitness, finances, and family lives.

team super dad· jonnie jensen· glen· the dating dad· fiverr· podcast intro

00:01 Hey, it's Friday. It's the wrap up! It's that time of the week when you're here with Team Superdad No pre-roll no little thing but I have created this so...I'll see on the other side Where is the button? Come on do that on the other side Welcome to Team Superdad. Real dads creating their best lives ever, more time more money more fun! You are not alone you're on team super dad! Hey Glen how American is that? So so American I gotta say you know we know our target demographic here

00:48 So it's because you think the Americans think that a British accent is sophisticated. That's, that's the market we're going for? There are reasons to the madness when I got... When I did the podcast, the podcast started about two years ago and I wanted..I needed to put it all together quickly right and uh and the quickest way I could get the intro done was on Fiverr and the guy who was like least awkward to deal with was actually a really cool guy. He turned it around quickly, but he's like what style do you want? This is the style! They all sound quite similar. I love the professional... so you've got this really cool like slick American intro and then you're like where's the button? Where's the button?

01:36 Where's my big red button? We're bringing the buttons back in. No, anyway listen before we get deep into this, this is the wrap up Glen and I aka Glen aka The Dating Dad and me Jonnie Jensen creator and founder of The Team Superdad community and the Hero Academy program. We do this at the end of the week. We celebrate the end of our week just because That's what we used to do in the pub and that's what we still like to do now. I think when you said the Hero Academy, I genuinely thought you were going to say me Jonnie Jensen, The Hero that You All Deserve!

CHAPTER 02 / 21 Discussion

Mission of Team Superdad and Modern Fatherhood Challenges

Jonnie Jensen describes the creation of Team Superdad and the Hero Academy as an antidote to the struggles of modern fatherhood, including marriage breakdowns and mental health issues. The program aims to help men move past "inner turmoil" to become better versions of themselves for their families. The hosts preview upcoming segments including Valentine's Day reflections, 90s pop culture, and male suicide awareness.

team super dad· hero academy· modern dads· mental health· marriage breakdown

02:15 When I Tommy Cooper it on stage in 20 years time, that's what they'll say. Wasn't the one you wanted? Definitely wasn't the hero you wanted! But you deserve this one and that says more about you than it does about us Look, you're pretty much on brand there basically is Team Superdad all about revealing the hero The Heroine for us dads we're shopping with cleaning which are basically being modern dads and too many are going around unhappy and struggling with their focus, and their fitness and their finances. Inner turmoil... And really then not being the best they can for their family, not having the best relationships, not having enough fun with their mates. So Team Superdad that was my story! That was my journey. Coming out of what ends up being a marriage breakdown or pretty much mental breakdown I thought hang on a minute this wasn't the plan!

03:09 And so Team Superdad has been created as an answer to that, as an antidote for modern dads. Blimey, if it's not Donald Trump doing us all a disservice it's some doofus dad who has done one. And the reality is that right through the middle are millions of really awesome blokes doing an awesome job and what we're here to do is lift them up and have a flipping great life! Living our best life ever not the life we feel stuck in Oh hell yeah, I'm not the dodgy horse from The NeverEnding Story. I'm Falco you know? I'm gonna be flying above that shit! Good references we're not just about pop references we can do culture as well... Well on the subject of culture before we get into our week's little rundown of tonight's show We've got dodgy WhatsApp messages particularly for all of our northern friends out there setting my dad up

04:09 Mate, I mean even the mention of those words. If my kids ever mentioned those words then i'm in trouble! It's okay it's not quite like it sounds Valentines Day is on the horizon which we can discuss how we feel about that Hot In The 90s our little regular special We're going Spice Girls this week For those that were here last week you might have heard me recommend Brockmire to Glen And he has now consumed the first two series in a whole week. Mate, I've got so much to say! And yeah, and being fine. As our regular listeners and watchers will know we do touch on a serious subject for a little bit just to make sure that all us dads or men are being looked after. And following on from the Being Fine reference last week in male suicide I actually was part of the book launch because I've contributed that book. And again although it's a serious subject quite funny everything is fun about my life isn't it? It's just one big car crash

CHAPTER 03 / 21 Discussion

Glen's Work Week and Recruiting the Three Amigos

Glen discusses a busy week filled with work deadlines and his efforts to recruit former colleagues to join his current company. He likens his goal of reuniting his favorite coworkers to "getting the band back together" or the "Three Amigos." Additionally, he touches on the exhaustion of balancing late-night professional obligations with homeschooling his children.

glen· recruitment· public sector· three amigos· homeschooling· work-life balance

05:11 And also tying into the topic of tonight, when I grow up which... Blimey! We've got so many. I've got like 25 things on here so it's a good job we do this every week. Glen how has your week been sir? It's been magnificent yet busy as hell by the way sorry if you're hearing squeaks this chair I swear that longer I have been using it for start of year and it just creaks And you can't hear it, every now and then it will sound like I'm farting. Honestly this is just a squeak but no its been good! It's been really hard week at work I've got to say tons and tons of deadlines exciting stuff at work. I won't go into too much detail because work is a facet of life isn't life

06:01 It's been exciting, it's been really good. Really positive and I've been trying to find a couple of people...I mean actually trying to get a couple of my mates that i've worked with before to join my company! I've never done that before I've always thought, let me keep my powder dry for when i found somewhere worthwhile and actually where I'm at right now. And I'm not going to big them up because you know no one's interested in that but we do really cool stuff! So I want to get really good people to come work with me so yeah I've been spending a week trying to convince people to come and join my company it is uh they're all setting me down. I've got visions of the three amigos you know when they

06:37 Genuinely, genuinely there were two people I used to work with at one of my previous companies and what i said is that not just want to get the band back together but I want to get Three Amigos back together. So yeah I'm kind of making offers to them and saying look come on do cool things help the public sector do what you do best but it's good but it's long so we're recording late today which is why I'm already a bottle of wine in because 10 o'clock at night and I've only recently finished work so it's hard, but I wouldn't do this unless i enjoyed it. But I've been homeschooling as well this week I've been covering everything from the solar system why we have days and nights through to algebra for seven-year-olds through to the Aberfan disaster in Wales where a waste heap...

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Homeschooling Challenges and the Power of Language

A host reflects on the experience of homeschooling his 16-year-old daughter, specifically focusing on the emotional impact of literature and the concept of personification. The discussion shifts from the academic challenges of teaching fate and heartbreak to a lighter note about teaching his son how to make biltong.

homeschooling· literacy· personification· biltong· education· parenting

07:28 The Jonnie Jensen Show, Jonnie Jensen, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, I'm a language, oh I want to say...I'm not a scholar at all. God! I don't know how..I don't know the facts about anything but i love words, I love language, I love the ability for these little squiggles on dead tree bits actually can get an idea out of my brain into someone else's brain so if this is squiggles that someone has put on a page from 1968 or whatever it was in the 60s

08:08 They wrote something which I've read, which has put an idea in my brain. Which I then interpreted to try and help my 16 year old daughter understand the concept of personification, of fate, of challenge, of heartbreak, of death... Tragedy! And that can't happen unless it's through words and so it's been a real journey of homeschooling through this week that I've absolutely enjoyed. And I've also taught my oldest son how to make biltong, um... So I've just been eating a shit tonne of beef this week. He's got the beef sweats! Amazing! Amazing!! Loved it! How about you? How has your week been? You got really passionate then?!

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Youth Work Experience and Light Bulb Moments

Glen shares his history as a youth worker, describing the spectrum of children he worked with, from high-achieving British Youth Council members to those facing expulsion from school. He describes the "light bulb moments" when a student finally understands a concept as the most intoxicating part of the job. He expresses pride in a former student who went on to found a successful youth work charity.

youth work· british youth council· mentoring· education· social work

08:49 You're like the proper teacher in UK, Matt. Well it's weird because I'm never going to claim to be a teacher they those guys work way harder than me. Oh they're saints! If i was a teacher I'd beat up on flipping child abuse flippers. Yeah yeah I did punch him but he wound me up all morning and then I just punched him sorry um but no I used to be uh I spent about a decade and a bit working as a youth worker So working with the, not just... so some of it was working with the high-end British Youth Council kids who were going to go on to do amazing things. And then part of it as well was working I'll be honest, I'm not even exaggerating here with a little shits who are getting kicked out of school because they were stabbing people

09:29 I watched every swathe of that and there was always these wonderful, beautiful moments where you'd be training. You'll be doing a session and I called them the light bulb moments where you say something and all of sudden you see this look on their face like oh yeah! I get that! And you'd see these kids, whether they were little shits or whether they were high-end future prime ministers or whatever. You'd see them and you'd see this something you had said had made a difference and it opened up something in their lives. It opened up a question or given them an answer or helped him to think something through. And that moment is intoxifying. It's so amazing to feel like you've been able to help someone through

10:16 I'm not a teacher of like math and English and so on, but i do like the fact that I was trained to be kind of a supporter and mentor and guide. And it...I know that some of those someone one of those kids has gone on to found a youth work charity that's helped hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of kids! And he wouldn't have done that if I hadn't been part of his upbringing in education and support network. That moments like that just mean Everything I did that back then for that entire 10, 15 years was just it was worthwhile and so i'm proud of him even though I never get to see in these days. I'm so proud of everything he's achieving. Yeah epic! I love that everyone should do some kind of

CHAPTER 06 / 21 Discussion

Coaching Youth Football and Teamwork Values

The hosts discuss their shared experiences volunteering as youth football coaches for their sons' teams. One host criticizes the "win at all costs" mentality prevalent in youth sports, emphasizing that his goal was to teach communication and life skills rather than professional athletic development. Both agree that the sense of purpose derived from helping children enjoy the game was highly rewarding.

football coaching· fa coaching badges· youth sports· teamwork· volunteerism

10:59 Purposeful work at some point in their life. And I don't mean should like you're a shit if you don't, but what I mean is you should because you just feel that stuff coming back the thing that you didn't know... You didn't know who were going to get from it when you started but if you get as much from it back as your giving out and not is that is the purpose for work stuff Totally. I mean, for a little while my son wanted to play football he wants to be part of the football team and there was no coaches around that we were able to spare the time so got speaking with his local club and they said all we need is some coaches So actually put me hand up and I volunteered to be his football team coach I've done my FA coaching badges, I'm a qualified coach, all that sort of crap but I knew looking at his teammates

11:48 Oh, none of them are going to be professionals. They were all a little bit shit to one degree or another but they absolutely loved playing football and they loved it! They loved being around their mates and yes most of the other coaches in fact pretty much every other coach was... It was all about winning, all about victory it doesn't matter who you are I mean if your crap at football I'm kicking you out my team and my whole shtick The Jonnie Jensen Show, Jonnie Jensen, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day

12:44 as an excuse to do youth work and to help them, coach them, support them. And teach them teamwork and life skills and communication and this togetherness that football allows you to bring. I hate the fact that most football is only about winning it's only about who's good at football who's bad at football no it's not! It's about enjoying yourself having fun being part of a team and yeah I bloody miss it I've got to say Well, another parallel for us Glen. I've done the same with my boy. I didn't lead the team but when shortly after we split up Jago started playing football and then I started helping out the guy that was leading the team that we joined. And I was like, oh no, I'll help you! Exactly the same thing it gave me a sense of purpose to run around and see them all having a laugh so yeah epic

CHAPTER 07 / 21 Discussion

Being Fine Book Launch and Men's Mental Health

Jonnie Jensen announces the launch of the book "Being Fine: The Other F Word," an anthology featuring 16 male authors discussing mental health struggles. Jensen describes the launch event where he met Olympic ski jumper Eddie the Eagle Edwards and was tasked with reading an excerpt from the book. The discussion emphasizes the importance of men talking about shared traumas like bankruptcy, miscarriage, and loss to break the cycle of isolation.

being fine· mens mental health· eddie the eagle· amazon· suicide prevention

13:39 Oh man, and you got your badges. Absolutely brilliant! Well my week... My week is a couple of funny things, couple of rather difficult things as well but that's not so much fun but um So the book that I was in, right? Being Fine which actually goes live today. Basically we'll do this as our little serious bit and then we'll do it in the middle but Being Fine is a book that's come out It's called being fine the other F word and its about mens mental health problems This sort of gets banded around quite alot you see coaches talking about it and also gets a bit boring But this book I got approached by the woman whose publishing company has produced this book Its called Being Fine The Other F Word

14:20 And I talked a little bit about it last week, but the funny thing was the launch happened last week. I've got a picture on here and bring up for those watching live. Do share screen, share screen click that check out who was with us on It's We're doing the Australian one next week, but all around or all around the world. All the different authors, 16 male authors to two female authors, all about like tough times and bouncing back from it all. And so Joe goes to me up anyway. Yeah that's Eddie Leigh was British Olympic ski jumper and all round good guy. So Joe brings me out about

15:21 It's about two o'clock in the afternoon and the launch was at six o'clock. She goes, I picked your name out of the hat and I said oh brilliant what have i won? You're reading one of the excerpts from the book tonight or the launch. Oh okay which one she goes you can choose! So tell me you read your own one you must have read your own one no that was the condition not allowed to read your own one now I know I was like, oh brilliant. Love to talk about myself! She goes you can't read your own one so then i have to put the phone down and said that's brilliant thanks for choosing me right? So get off the phone...I've not read the book yet!

16:02 But you can read, can't you? You can read works. No I know for all my audible loving by the way go and get your Audible voucher from... no i haven't actually got an Audible voucher but should... You need one! You need one! No I should start getting some what do they call it like um affiliate things yeah affiliate we'll get some affiliates going on to pay for our booze basically so she goes yes so anyway to read the book but it's only 120 pages long right so this is a series of short stories and until the amazing thing is as I read through it bloody moving Blokes from builders to billionaires. Not kidding, that's literally it right? Motivational speakers me you know marketing bloke turned dad coach and whatever the story is you're reading it like okay yeah he was married he was this he was a ski jumper blah blah and then they go and then this happened boom something really harsh happens! And the amazing thing was though that the experience after that bad thing happened was pretty much consistent

16:58 So for any men listening to this, it's a classic thing that men do is oh no one will understand. I can't talk about it like it's just me. I'm the only one struggling and no one else has ever had a miscarriage. No one else has ever lost a brother. No one else has ever gone bankrupt like guess what loads of us have and the best thing you can do is bloody talk about it so this book Being Fine It's transformational as well as inspirational because you've got everyday guys. And it's not like a self-help book or, uh, you know how to be brilliant? I was an ordinary bloke going about my life and then this happened... And and amazing, really amazing. So if you check out on Amazon Being Fine and someone said at the end of that one of the people like The Guest they said what should we do if if if we've got a friend in our life who we know is struggling? And actually it sounds a bit trite to say oh well go get them this book but it's really low barrier way to say have a read of this because I think you might get something out of him. Another bit of advice I gave was be yourself

CHAPTER 08 / 21 Discussion

Strategies for Supporting Struggling Friends

The hosts offer advice on how to support friends who are struggling with mental health issues, suggesting activities that remove the pressure of face-to-face confrontation. One host shares how a friend took him mountain climbing to provide a mental escape, noting that activities where people face the same direction—like driving or climbing—often facilitate more honest conversations than sitting across from one another.

mental health support· climbing· communication· samaritans· friendship

17:55 Don't like go, oh I can't talk about that. I don't know what to do! Don't suddenly start throwing them Samaritan numbers at them although that can help and we have mentioned a couple of numbers in the past episodes but my mate when i was struggling he took me climbing because that was what he could do. That's what he was good at and he goes let's go and climb mountain And he paid for the flipping hotel and just it got me into his world. And we had a weekend where I was just free of the struggles that I was going through at the time, but I guess also it takes you out of your normal situation which gives you the freedom to kind of like think about the challenge that you're facing in a different from a different angle. Yeah and something like that is perfect as well because

18:35 I read somewhere one of the kind of common things is many more couples have honest and frank and open discussions whilst driving because they're both sitting facing forward. You're both facing forward, and you're not facing each other there's no adversarial nature it's your both going...you're both traveling in the same direction And you're both doing something like at the same time and you can have those discussions because it's not, it's not like facing each other and facing off like in a battle. Not a good sound for an audio experience. Glen put it that way! This is after hours, all guns are out. But climbing I'm guessing as well is one of those things where whether you're climbing on auto belay ropes which you can both climb next to each other or whether one of you's climbing and then come down the other one climbs...

19:32 You're both able to have those conversations without having to have that awkward face-to-face, where do I look? What do I say sort of moment. Yeah totally and you're not getting pissed! There's a time and place for that but sometimes it's... Anyway, point being it's just real life dads. Real life men, real life stories and totally relatable and Eddie the Eagle I was watching it right let's bring that back up because I'm sat there you know the whole thing is going on and I'm like who's the bloke bottom left? He didn't half look like Eddie Eagle! And then Joe says and now I'll bring on my special guest Eddie The Eagle Edwards and um... And you did expect him to be there

CHAPTER 09 / 21 Discussion

Boyhood Dreams and the Big Sendoff Business Idea

Glen reveals his lifelong dream of becoming an astronaut, acknowledging that he now relies on Elon Musk's commercial space efforts as his only viable path to orbit. This leads to a discussion about "The Big Sendoff," a business idea Glen had for launching cremated remains into space via rockets, only to discover that similar services already exist in the United States.

boyhood dreams· astronaut· elon musk· cremation· the big sendoff

20:13 No, no. Top bloke not surprisingly top bloke top bloke I mean what a story yeah we haven't got time to go into too much detail but if you have movies... Oh totally! I know it's fictionalised elements of it and all but still it's a brilliant movie I loved it no he said about 70 75 percent Bob-on he said anyway it was brilliant brilliant brilliant um so yeah anyway Boyhood dreams, just talk about boyhood dreams. This came up for me I got asked it on a podcast this week. I've been a podcast guest on about two or three different podcasts this week one called Nacho Kids. She's step mom so she goes nachos kids not your kids yeah that was pretty cool and then another one with a lady called Tracy Kimeberg and that was all kind of healing

21:06 And she was talking about like people break up and people moving on. And so it was that she's doing a special sort of series on that. So I've been on these podcasts, brilliant! And asked about Boyhood Dreams What did you want to be when you were growing up, Glen? Me? Astronaut. Without hesitation and I'll be honest it's not even when i was growing up still want to be an astronaut the difference is I now know that that you can't be a natural just by being like really really smoulderingly good looking because obviously that's what I am but also yeah I'm not a scientist so I'm not going to be able to get onto some sort of space shuttle or something So the only thing I can do is hope for Elon Musk levels of wealth at some point. That's the only way i'm going to end up in space, although that being said um I have made my kids and they know this they're well rehearsed on this they've promised me that when I die you know in the next couple years when I die um they're gonna cremate me and stick my ashes into a weather vane and take me

22:06 It's I had an idea for a company and it turns out they do exist, right? But it was called The Big Send Off. Right. And it was basically you could have your ashes put inside of rocket and fired off somewhere or some random thing done with your own ashes. It turns out in America there's loads these things got no the big sendoff that's my business never started it but probably would've made more money than

CHAPTER 10 / 21 Discussion

Career Aspirations and Richard Bacon Comparison

Jonnie Jensen discusses his early ambitions to be a rally driver or a TV presenter, revealing he left a prestigious grammar school at 16 to pursue a radio and journalism course. He humorously laments that presenter Richard Bacon "stole his life," noting their similar backgrounds in school drama and radio. Jensen recounts a past interaction with Bacon during an XFM radio competition.

richard bacon· cbbc· journalism· drama club· radio 1· xfm

22:45 Have you ever seen the Big Lebowski? Of course, everyone's seen the Big Lebowski. I love that bit at the end he throws the ashes out and the wind blows it straight back in his face! So what did you want to be when you grew up? A racing driver Like Formula One? No, mainly a rally driver. My dad was it was a co-driver for Lancia and Ford and RAC. Yeah I remember you said that! So um i wanted to be a rally driver or a TV presenter and I wanted to be a tv presenter. A CBBC sort of thing yeah

23:21 I wanted to, uh...I was at an awesome grammar school like one of the historic grammar schools in Great Britain or whatever and at 16 i left. Yeah! I went to a shitty college because they had a City & Guilds Radio and Journalism course and uh..and and I was like yeah I'm gonna be a TV presenter but the stupid thing was I was too embarrassed to talk about it so like obviously... What? I know! Come on If you're going to be a TV presenter, you have to have an entire lack of self-embarrassment. Utter confidence yeah but here's the thing about people... The people that end up as Radio 1 DJs and stuff when they were at school they were the freaks that ran the acting association or literally the radio club I was the only boy in our entire year who used get all the lead roles because no one else did drama

24:11 And it all with hot women. Oh, good touch. No no I wouldn't say hot women these were these okay they i went to a school in East London oh okay so yeah now i wasn't i did drama at GCSE i was the i was in the choir you know that'd be if you know i was also see it's weird i was mentioning this as someone um today so yes In the drama club, the school choir, the school council, I set up the entire student support thing. So they're all geeky things! I was a librarian for a while and in the poetry club. I used to love the computer and I was in the chess club but that sort of thing...

24:48 I was in the football team. I was vice captain, I was a captain of the cricket club and I was on our school running teams so i kind of straddled those weird worlds... You were bridging the void? Yeah yeah what fucking good has that done me it's rubbish! I'm not Richard Bacon he has stolen my life. There we go you could have been Richard Bacon. All I needed to do is get into cocaine Richard Bacon definitely ran the drama club or something like that. Yeah, yeah! That man has got my job he's got a job that I could do and i could thrive at and love. So yeah Richard Bacon... He actually once asked for me to invite him to my first ever Best Man speech

25:33 I doled into a radio show once and you know when you're just kind of chatting and chatting and chatting, it was like XFM or something like that. And I doled in for some sort of radio competition and you just end up chatting and chatting and talking and by the end it's like... You know what? I want you! Promise me you're going to invite me so when you do a best man speech, invite me along. I wanna be there, promise I'll be there. ...and then did our bollocks So Richard, what's happened to after his cocaine bust and Daily Mail exposure? No no he was brilliant. That was decades ago! I know that but... Children's TV! No i know but he used to be on Five Live Yeah he is a Radio 5 staple and Radio 4

CHAPTER 11 / 21 Discussion

Haircut Mishaps and Jason Donovan Inspiration

The hosts share embarrassing stories about grooming and hair. One host recalls taking a picture of 90s star Jason Donovan to a hairdresser, only to be told the style was impossible to replicate. Another recounts a disastrous attempt at a DIY haircut with clippers where the guard fell off, leaving a "landing strip" bald spot right before a night out.

jason donovan· haircuts· grooming· clippers· 90s fashion

26:14 and he's a regular DJ slot. He's a dude, yeah I like him a lot i think he's got that kind of ability to both be fun and kind of light-hearted but equally he can be serious! He knows guys, he knows guys. Oh I'll tell you this is kind of related right but in my days of wanting to be a TV presenter i once took a picture of Jason Donovan to the hairdresser's but... But! I cut Jason Donovan's face out of the picture

26:57 So the hairdresser goes to me, he goes to me, you do realise I know who that is. You do realise I'm not a miracle worker? No, no. I had lot of hair! Now i'm sitting here and looking at you and all I can do is...I want to photoshop like um uh a picture of Jason Donovan's hair from the 90s onto your current face That's what I held up there, like if it'd been fuzzy felt. Can you hold this far in front of me so we get an idea I'm talking about hair, that's something i was going to be doing tonight but i've probably had too much wine. But i need to get rid of some of my hair so im actually gonna do some home

27:45 I'm gonna buzz it at the back and like do something at the top to make it shorter. I can't be doing with this much hair, there's too much hair. Surely your 16 year old can get that? Get a go on that surely? Like I'm going to trust her with a blade anywhere near my expose. No you're not gonna go flipping... no no no! You've got hair clippers surely?! Oh she'll still cut me, she's evil. Cut me Mick, cut me Mick! She's evil! And we've been waiting to get you for years. Well, listen I got some clippers, i'll bring them around for you. Well, I've got beard trimmers although it doesn't look like I use them very much so I'm gonna give that a go and when I say number two on the side, short on top... So I don't know what number two on the sides means does that mean 2 millimeters? Does that mean what? No but my clippers have got like a guard on it there's a number two yeah yeah I've got a guard but of course each

28:36 I'm Estonian step type haircut. It's going to be brilliant, I can't wait to see it next week. I know in the past when...I used to do it when I was a lot younger and it was kind of whatever it was around the side and then you'd kind of do on top and then one night just before I was going out of course I've started thinking let me trim myself jujujuj and as I've gone like that the blade, the guards come off and I've just taken this massive chunk

29:26 Right out the back of my head, it was like I had some sort of drunk landing strip going over me. But I was going out-out so all I did was just make sure I had water to drink and made it a talking... You've got to put your chest out as like yeah whatever yeah what you're doing. Everyone's doing it isn't they mate? This is what the cool kids are doing where's your strip? We can we can segue neatly here you can video that hair cutting experience and we can put it on WhatsApp Right, which obviously... I can. But the thing is once you share- once you video something that is embarrassing on WhatsApp and then you share it one post and you know it's going to end up shared with everybody. And that's what worries me! I don't want my embarrassing shit being shared with random dirty filthy WhatsApp groups I've never been part of Well It would have to be pretty bad to get shared too many times because this is what I wanted to bring up. Where do people get this stuff from?

CHAPTER 12 / 21 Discussion

WhatsApp Group Culture and Graphic Content

The hosts discuss the "funnel of shit" found in male WhatsApp groups, where certain members curate and share increasingly graphic or bizarre content. They debate the psychology of why people share disturbing videos, ranging from "Pound Shop snuff movies" to bestiality and car accidents. Glen expresses his discomfort with the graphic nature of the messages sent by his friends from Northern England.

whatsapp· mickey flanagan· viral content· internet culture· northern england

30:22 I mean, I'm not in a group called absolutely disgustingly awful things dot com right but it seems that my northern mates are because they just send so much of it. But the thing is unbelievable! It feels like there's always at least one or two people that curate it. It feels like there's...there's like a funnel of shit and every WhatsApp group needs that one person who just all you All, you know I don't know where they get this stuff from but it fills this funnel and stuff gets to you. And you know that the stuff that's getting into you is the premium grade shit so it makes me wonder how much random fucking awful stuff ends up filling their funnel? Yeah well Mickey Flanagan has got a funny sketch about the guy at the factory who used to have the porno videos. Mickey Flanagan like what's on for the weekend what's on for the weekend

31:14 But of course now it just gets, you know, forward group. Bosh, there you go. Flipping pick this week... So what sort of things were you actually getting? I'm not in this! I don't have WhatsApp groups my brother he like we can have a conversation and he'll be able to describe the shit that's been sent him whilst we're having a five minute conversation Look at my face! It's horrific! I'm wincing and i'm not even talking about it just thinking about it so they're my mates right they're my best mates from uni there's four of us in the group And, and I'm not none of the other groups. I mean this happens because it's just my and they're all northerners okay? A Manc, two Scousers and a Geordie who has lived in Liverpool most of his life right so they know i'm a little bit squeamish yeah that's how they know like I delete it like because like you soft southerner no

32:10 They go, well don't let your kids look at it. I'm like, I'm not letting my kids look at it. Ideally! It's not my kids, its' my eyeballs! That's what I say. Like it's me? Yes by the way, I do clear the history pretty much every other day but... What are we talking about? Are we talking about this week? We're talking about a man wearing like stripes and checks in the same outfit or what? I mean how bad could it be? Some of it is funny some of it's funny okay so there's this you can say black guy right he's a black guy right He's got this, he's like from Africa or something. Okay? And he's got a cock that comes down past his knee. Yeah. Apparently this is not Photoshopped pieces. This is, this is, I'm sitting here right now and um, I mean, I'm not, I'm not at all man but my thighs

32:56 I like that, okay. That would make your eyes water! No i know yeah but this is like social media internet kind of currency type fame type stuff so this picture then gets superimposed onto lots of other funny situations yeah? So, for example you'll be... I can't even remember on that one. But they were like it requires you to zoom in and you're zooming in thinking it's going to be something awesome or something smutty or something funny right? And then it's him! It's like... That's good, I like that. Oh it's funny but then I'm not gonna talk about too much get myself into bloody trouble but some of it is just..I don't mean

33:36 Illegal stuff, but stuff like... What is that? What is it? But what's wrong with you that you saw that and thought I know who wants to see that. Jonnie will want to see that! That's...I'm going to share with him because that's gonna make his day better. No three old blokes shagging pigs was too much for me. Whoa whoa whoa sweet child o' mine No, you said nothing illegal. I mean, I don't know what part of Kent you're from but bestiality? I don't want my bacon with any predefined sort on it! I mean... no. So and I was like okay that's okay now we're gonna spend however long it takes to unthink that but other stuff like car accidents

34:24 Like, just... Oh a good car crash is good. I mean just the flipping and that sort of stuff. No but there's this guy doing like road sweeping and he's there with his other with his road sweeping buddy drive straight into his dust truck, which he's standing in front of. It is like in India or somewhere and completely... No! He's like flat as a pancake, like his brains explode out of his head. I don't mind the whole kind of close call stuff. I don't mind the whole where it goes past him and so on but no, I don't want to see people being killed. No? I do not want some sort of Pound Shop snuff movie fucking hell

35:05 No, so there you go. So I just... and like to talk about this is not because I know that this stuff goes on it's like this is kind of public chat Why are they doing that? Why are they saying what are they thinking? That's good! I'm gonna send that because that's going to make someone happy. No no no no but you said before we are so far down the funnel Like, I'm getting this in a mates group as kind of like the good stuff is you know it's like oh 32 pairs of breasts on some sort of gif right? I'm like okay that's all right yeah but no death bestiality. I want to say for the record i'm very happy not being part of that group and it's got nothing to do with them being northern

CHAPTER 13 / 21 Discussion

Brockmire Series Review and Alcoholic Protagonists

Glen provides a glowing review of the television series "Brockmire," starring Hank Azaria as a disgraced baseball commentator. He describes the show as a raw look at a functioning alcoholic rebuilding his life, praising its dark humor and the protagonist's surprisingly strong underlying principles. The hosts recommend the show to UK viewers on Amazon Prime.

brockmire· amazon prime· hank azaria· baseball· addiction· tv review

35:56 Call me old-fashioned, but pig fucking's not my thing. I mean... No no no! I've never shared my Tinder profile with you but still, no it's not for me. Definitely gonna put the old E on this episode of The Wrap Up. Probably worth it So, look on a much more light and easy subject. How was Brockmire for you this week? Because I thought you were going to like it. Oh mate! No see recommendations are one of those things that's so personal and you never know whether someone else is... they like something because it's speaking to them at certain point in their life or its arty or something like that

36:39 You know what, I just don't want to get into something which is going to make me sad. My god! In some ways I feel seen. I feel like Brockmire and I would be good friends but not good for each other friends. He is an extreme version of all the shit that if I didn't have kids Fucking hell, if you've not seen it without giving away any spoilers. Obviously you kind of gave the basic premise to the show but it's just about an American baseball

37:21 Commentator, somebody talks for a living and so you know with me being such a narcissist I can absolutely relate to this. He has an horrific incident that happens causes him to break down go right back to scratch and then essentially he has to start working at how we could rebuild his life whilst... I'm not sharing any secrets here, whilst being a functioning alcoholic and massive substance abuser. Probably a sex addict as well! And all of these things combine, but you've got this guy who thinks aloud and he thinks the things and says the things. But whilst also having these underlying values which are good values... He challenges shit that goes that you shouldn't have to challenge. He's got all the right principles but the way he goes about them is just horrific!

38:21 And for some reason that speaks to me. I tell you, two nights and I could have done it in one but i had the kids with me so i had to get up the next day for them but otherwise i would have just binged the shit out of it! The best recommendation of 2021 without hesitation and probably for quite some time before that. I know...I've been looking at T-shirts this week, I want a spoof up Team Superdad, Brockmire, Have Another Beer t-shirts. It's just a brilliant, brilliant TV program. That's a great episode where they're trying to raise some more money for their local baseball team. And so basically, they come up with the thing where they get the ground and everyone no matter what happens that the phrase is have another beer! So someone I don't know baseball was like someone threw a ball have another beer here hit the ball have another beer and you know what? That's kind of game that feels like 2020 Critic It does good times. TMS on cocaine

39:25 So it's actually on Amazon Prime if you're listening in the UK. If you're living in the USA, I've no idea but you can search up or if you got a dodgy app on your Fire Stick then just search Brockmire and it will be there I loved it. Absolutely brilliant! The only thing that's made me smile anywhere near as much as I've seen recently has been the Handforth Parish Council shenanigans that have been happening today, don't know if you've seen that at all? No... I implore everyone to view this, there are snippets of it essentially and this is not a produced HBO special

CHAPTER 14 / 21 Discussion

Handforth Parish Council Zoom Viral Video

The hosts discuss the viral Handforth Parish Council Zoom meeting, comparing the real-life local government chaos to the sitcom "The Thick of It." They laugh at the "Little Hitler" personalities involved in the heated procedural arguments. Jonnie Jensen uses the mention of the Team Superdad Facebook group to invite listeners to join their community for discussions on "Focus, Fitness, Finance, Family, and Fun."

handforth parish council· jackie weaver· zoom meeting· viral video· local government

40:06 This is literally the recorded Zoom meeting from a parish council meeting that was held in whenever they've just released it and my god if you could imagine kind of W1C meets The Thick Of It. So this is real, a real life thing? This is real life. And you've got kind of county... usually parishes are in the counties so you have County Council...

40:45 I'm telling you how local, where they do the big thing. Then you've got the districts who do the medium thing and then the parishes this is just like you and your neighbours getting together to come up with some sort of neighbourhood fucking watch scheme yet Paris...and i speak as someone who used to be a parish councillor The kind of mini Nazi kind of people, the little hitlers who want this control and the arguments and a passion. And if you google this thing, Handsforth Parish Council Meeting it's quite possibly the funniest real life situation I've seen now. It's not quite by standards of production quality but it's every bit as hysterical. Check us out we're doing

41:29 We're doing Google Box, we're doing 30 WhatsApp messages. Handsworth Parish Council meeting it does come up first I guess I might look for the old video but yeah we'll put that in the Team Superdad group basically if you listen for 41 minutes and i fail to mention the team super dad group which i think i have done It's a Facebook. So basically, bitoftheoldfb.com groups Team Superdad forward slashes in there just search team super dad you'll find it says Dad Success Group and we're in there we're hanging out where We're doing the F5 Focus Fitness Finance Family Fun and as well as sorting all those areas out, we are actually just keeping it real and having a laugh which I think is quintessentially British basically. There's a little bit because particularly given our age there is a degree of lads mag coming out here

CHAPTER 15 / 21 Discussion

Hot in the 90s, Spice Girls Edition

In a recurring segment called "Hot in the 90s," the hosts debate which member of the Spice Girls they found most attractive. They discuss Geri Halliwell's current life as the wife of Formula 1's Christian Horner and Mel C's athletic appeal. The segment concludes with a reflection on the "Girl Power" movement and the evolution of "Lads Mags" culture during that era.

spice girls· geri halliwell· mel c· victoria beckham· 90s pop culture· girl power

42:19 Talking about lads, Max. Next thing you'll be talking about is f***ing FHM and who's the fitness group? Who would ever think about that but I tell you what though who was the fittest Spice Girl it was an interesting conversation. Well this is where we got to challenge because are you talking about now or are you talking about back in the day? I'm going to start with back in the day. Back in the day it was Baby Spice. Check it right. So for those that are listening on the podcast, we do love and appreciate you. Right? So leave us a review share the hell out of this and get as many more listeners on the old podcasts but if you're watching the live which actually we do get a lot of people on there on the video replays and stuff because its on YouTube Facebook Twitter so you can see glorious pictures of the lovely Spice Girls back in the 90's

43:05 I mean, there's only two. It is it's only a conversation between two and now I'm very clear about who those two are who...I'm assuming you think you agree with me here? There's only two that really in the discussion No! I used to just flipping go back and forth is like it I don't know. I think no, I mean yeah baby spice but Is baby spice or ginger spice? There's nothing else I know, but there was...I always thought that there was you know. There were some for me that i think sporty is attractive but there's just something no no she is! But I think I just like the fact that she'd be a flipping good laugh good. I'll go out and get pissed with her but put in a line up and say you know what if any one of these were attracted to you which one would you go for? It would not be Sporty Spice okay but now right

44:02 I think Shane, now they've got a little bit older. Ginger Spice or whatever she's called? Remember we were talking recently about the fact that they're still going to be the women we find attractive because they are in our age bracket Yeah, so for anyone not tuned in before there is a reason we do Hot In The 90s because Glen and I a few weeks ago were talking about how come we don't know about all the tossie these days. And then it and then we realised was because if we did, we'd be talking about women that were closer to our kids age than our age. So what we've done is, we realised actually to be appropriate. We need to go back to the 90s and talk about women that we fancied in the 90's because yes they would be an age appropriate right now so this picture...this was like 10 years ago

44:55 No, they wouldn't be in a picture with what's her name there would they? And she wouldn't be smiling. I mean she's not physically able to smile these days is she? I think she's the least attractive, the posh spice. Yeah yeah i'm with you on that. In terms of least attractive it'd be posh sporty scary and then the other two... Oh I think Sporty would be naughty! She would be really naughty. There were rumours where she was a bit like to go both ways Maybe so, but she... I don't know. She's-I think maybe as well she reminds me of one of my sisters. That's always gonna ruin it! No, no, that is not right. Now Jerry the ginger spice now these days yes and for two reasons one She's hot as fuck and two her feathers into Formula One And i'm a massive formula 1 fan So

45:51 You know, during getting to know you phase there's an absolute chance I could go and see some races. Okay yeah well what you're thinking is that you're going to weasel in and be mates with her boyfriend? I'm gonna woo her! And you know I'm charming too. Well my Christian Horner will absolutely be my best buddy. How about you so right now these days... Oh these days?! Yeah these days All being equal, so the person that you're attracted to. Yeah yeah! All five of them absolutely frankly the pants off you and they all say, You know what? We all want you but which one of us are you going to choose? I'm still going sporty there's something about her just did it for me. Look at that picture now look this is a modern picture of her. It's good is lovely of you its wrong answer but it's lovely of you. Right now she scrubs up well

46:53 And I'm not saying she's unattractive at all, but still. Anyway, good chat as always. Bit of a Lads Mag 90s rewind there, Glen and I keeping it real, keeping it true to ourselves there. The great thing is that when we're talking about Ladsmags they weren't lads mag's women because they were all about girl power, they were all about feminism and in a good way they're all about like smashing that mindset of women are there for men yet still being sexual for their own interests Yeah but when Lads Mag started They were all right. They were, they were proper good laugh articles. It wasn't all about women with their boobs out when it got to the end when there was like nuts and loaded and there was loads of them it was just basically a boob fest which I mean they were pretty much getting on to

CHAPTER 16 / 21 Discussion

Valentine's Day Commercialization and Gender Expectations

Glen vents his frustration with the commercial pressure of Valentine's Day, praising Tesco for offering an opt-out for holiday advertising. He argues that the holiday creates an unbalanced expectation for men to perform romantic gestures while receiving little in return. The hosts discuss the "forced romance" of expensive restaurants and flower shops.

valentines day· tesco· gender equality· romance· commercialism

47:44 flipping average level pornos. It was completely inappropriate but I think there should be a bit of a rebalance because, i don't know...I mentioned this the other week didn't I? I want to just have some fun! I want to meet some flippin' lairy ass funny women and go out and have some good times That's the dream, that's the dream. They are out there and are we going to see them on Valentines Day Glen? I'm not going to see them on Valentines day and even if i did... You know what, I'm sick of Valentine's day! There is a great thing Tesco does where you can actually opt-out of advertising and Tescos, I salute you because I am fucking sick of it this pressure and we go on and on about equality

48:32 And it's all yet Valentines Day becomes this thing where men are expected, expected to go out of their way to do nice things for women. I'm not talking about a month later is not like steak and blowjob day is commonly accepted. Valentines Day still is. When was the last time most, on average it was accepted that women would be as romantic towards men as men are expected to be on Valentine's day toward women? It just doesn't happen and That pisses me off. It really angers me, especially because I'm single and I've got no one to really go and be romantic with and I'd really like to do that! That is the ying and the yang of this subject but iIm totally on board with you Anything these days that is completely out-of-whack and unbalanced...I used to hate the idea that we're gonna...that's why I'm not a massive fan of Fathers Day either The kids love it and that's great but

CHAPTER 17 / 21 Discussion

Elaborate Marriage Proposals and Romantic Gestures

Glen recounts an incredibly elaborate marriage proposal he organized in London, involving a 20-stop treasure hunt with cryptic clues and Sudoku puzzles. The event culminated at Tower Bridge, where friends held a 30-meter banner on the South Bank of the Thames. Despite his distaste for the expectations of Valentine's Day, he emphasizes that he enjoys romance when it is a choice rather than a requirement.

marriage proposal· tower bridge· treasure hunt· london· romance

49:32 I could, like if i get to choose between having one day where you treat me special or just know that you think I'm awesome all year. I'll take the awesome all year option thank you very much. Like fucking don't save it for one day! It's forced romance when every restaurant can up their prices every flower shop can up their price. Oh I hate that You have to pay for a nose. That being said I do feel like there are ways of doing better So one year for my ex-wife, because I've not really had Valentine's Day with other people which is sad for me but great for them because they didn't have to put up with it. It's coming pending! One year we didn't have any money so I made...I actually got cut like paper rolled up green paper

50:22 Cut out individual petals for like roses, made a bunch of...a dozen red roses complete with little dots of glue which represent dew on them. Wrapped it all up and then delivered it to her workplace as handmade roses! That's cool but I actually proposed to my ex a week before Valentine's because I knew she was expecting something on Valentines I've taken that one year, took it to Paris or shit like that. You know so i built up a rod for my own back but the week before Paris I got a friend who was moving house to take her out to do furniture shopping and said oh that's right I'm working that day so take take the kids to my mum she agreed to look after them as she went into my mom to drop the kids off got given a DVD to say oh Glen's asked you to watch this

51:16 And it was a DVD of me saying, actually you're not doing that. You're going on a treasure hunt and it was 20 stops around London where every single stop had... So first of all to find out where the stop was she had to work out a cryptic clue then she- She was on her own this whole time? No, she was with her mate so two of them because I know she wouldn't want to do it alone I got given a card, an envelope with a card in it and that had cryptic clues to work out where to go. On the way there they had to do a sudoku. That sudoku has some shaded squares so when you put them in order it gave your phone number and it had a challenge on. So when you get there you have to phone the phone number which was one of our friends

52:02 The Jonnie Jensen Show, Jonnie Jensen, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, Spice Girls Day, I was ahead of her the whole time. So, like, I'd meet my friend set them up given the thing then she come along do the challenge and then i'd see make sure it done that and i'd run off to get to the next place And this was 20 stops all around London so everyone coordinating all of that shit...I think that's quite good! The last stop was me on the south buttress of Tower Bridge

52:44 I said, right your last challenge you've got to decide for a message and that message. I said right look over there and work out what the message says and everyone who'd take part in the whole day was on the south bank of The Thames with a 30 meter banner. I'm gonna cry! She said will you marry me? And she turned around i was doing the whole one-knee shit and all that sort of stuff and then we went out for beers thankfully she said yes so I know romance. I know I have to do this shit, but i hate the fact that on Valentines Day men are expected to do that! I wanted to do that because I wanted to do it not because I was expected to do it. I think good quality guys will do something different and won't just do it all year round

CHAPTER 18 / 21 Discussion

Reciprocal Romance and Feeling Valued

The hosts discuss the importance of men feeling "wooed" and desired in relationships. They share stories of meaningful gestures, such as a photo album documenting a couple's future or a romantic picnic in a friary. They argue that men deserve to be the recipients of thoughtful, unexpected surprises just as much as women do.

romance· relationships· post-it notes· emotional intimacy· appreciation

53:34 Early days in my marriage, I did similar things. I love doing that sort of stuff but wrote... got post-it notes in the shape of hearts and put like a hundred of them all around the house. You try and write 100 nice things about someone no matter how awesome you think they are it's bloody difficult! Yeah so that was..that was..and it took a lot to clear up the flimflam mess afterwards But yeah, it's not about spending loads of money but you do want to flip in feel the love back. So that was your wedding proposal so I guess... That was around Valentine's Day and it was deliberately done and that was only because like a week earlier she'd said um I don't think we should get married I think we should just save him by house

54:16 I'm probably knee deep in baby, this is happening. We've been together for like eight or nine years at that point! No but all the plans were half done you're like there's no going back now. I was like no fuck you... I bought the banner. We only make our plans after she looks like it. I spent nine years creating us this mindset of we don't need to get married. It's not about needing to get married because everyone says you should get married and do the romantic shit I'm happy with just you. You and I are together, we're happy and we're doing this thing. And so it should be about wanting to do it. You know? I want you to do it rather than you need to do or have to do what if you feel pressured to do it. The moment that she didn't want to do because everyone wanted her to but because she wanted to literally the next week when I bought the ring cause that was a moment I knew she was doing it because he wanted to marry me rather then... Rather then just feel like she should

55:10 Yeah, yeah. That for me that's romance for me Valentine's Day I've got no problem with using it as an excuse to do something nice but the trouble is it always reverse sexism It's always the man expected to do the good thing and the romantic thing for the woman And I'm desperate to find someone who looks at eggs...I want to do something romantic for you Yeah, quid pro quo but cut both ways. What's the most romantic thing someone has ever done to you? I say to you... for you! You just saw my eyes light up! It wasn't so much romantic as just fucking awesome. Romantic. So why don't someone make a whole treasure hunt for me

56:11 Like all around the local area and it finished up with a romantic night time picnic in a friary. Wow, that is pretty cool! I can't think really... The problem is as far as my marriage goes there's been so much grief that the good stuff has kind of clouded a little bit. She did do her... she made got a photo album made And it had pictures of, basically I'd written this story about our future and before we got married and stuff. So she had it turned into an album that was, that was... It took a lot not just romantic but it really projected our future so to show you know showed us a lot love and commitment and stuff like that. Actual kind of romance special occasions surprises

57:08 Because that's the thing, right? Like I say we're expected to do that as men and i don't know about you but I feel just as valued and happy and proud and satisfied and kind of enamored with my partner if they do something thoughtful for me. As they would if I did it for them and Because it's not common for them to do something, for the woman to do something with a man. But when they have something romantic actually it matters It means so much and I want guys to look at this and think you know what? I deserve romance! I deserve to be wooed! I deserve to be desired and loved and have that attention and care taken to me in a romantic sense We deserve romance we deserve to be wooed

CHAPTER 19 / 21 Discussion

Relationship Coaching and Reconnecting

Jonnie Jensen offers coaching advice for men to use Valentine's Day as a catalyst for genuine reconnection rather than just a commercial obligation. He suggests asking partners deep questions about what makes them feel appreciated and what past romantic habits they miss. The goal is to move beyond "ticking boxes" with chocolates and flowers to rediscover why the couple fell in love.

relationship coaching· communication· intimacy· valentines day· partnership

58:04 Yeah, 100%. And that actually tips into some of the stuff that goes on for men. And you know it's important to me as part team Superdad is that we feel whole inside of our relationships so that we feel loved and respected and And, you know like that other person wants to make us feel alive and special and surprised. I think there's nothing better than feeling surprised about something feeling like someone has done something unexpected that was out of the ordinary. And what was the reason? The reason was because they appreciate you and think you're awesome

58:47 And I think that's what's lost a little bit on Valentine's Day is when people think they have to do something like, oh shit. I need to go and buy something nice or take her somewhere and... ...I don't think your average woman appreciates that much. A woman who appreciates that much. Maybe she does if she has been so ignored for the previous 364 days of the year That she'll take any bit of joy and love and appreciation she can get but it's just a sham It just shows the relationship up for what is And yeah, do you know what? This is a bit of coaching. I think any guy listening to this it's an opportunity to say... To reconnect use Valentines Day as an opportunity to reconnect What are we doing here? Is it fun? How special would you make me feel? Do you look out for me? Do you appreciate me like what could I do for you that would have you feel more appreciated? What will be your best...? What's the best day out you could imagine with me because I'm going to make happen You know questions like that

59:44 Is there, here's a good question. Is there anything I used to do for you that you loved but don't anymore? And that's because we get so caught up in the everydayness of our relationships that we forget why we fell in love with each other. So yeah, um, Using it as an excuse to reconnect and to ask yourself those questions is wonderful. It's just don't think that it's Valentines Day so you know what I'm going to do? I'm gonna take her to a restaurant, we can't at the moment but... I'm gonna buy some chocolates, buy some flowers maybe buy some lingerie and that'll tick the boxes!

CHAPTER 20 / 21 Discussion

Lingerie Gift Blunders and Christmas Mortification

Glen shares a "clanger" from his youth involving a poorly planned Christmas gift for his first girlfriend. He describes the embarrassment of gifting a Wonderbra in the wrong size in front of her entire family on Christmas Day. The hosts laugh at the lack of foresight and the mortification caused by the inappropriate timing of the gift.

wonderbra· christmas· lingerie· embarrassing stories· teenage mistakes

1:00:21 Do you want to hear my worst? That's not romance! No, it was very poor. How are you with and what do they love and what makes them tick And how are you going to put a smile on their face that no one else can? Do you want to hear my worst ever lingerie story? The girl I lost my virginity to... What were you wearing? No the girl I lost my virginity too right It wasn't a good relationship but that's another story for another day I bought her for Christmas once a, you remember those Wonder Bras? Of course. Right so Wonder Bras and obviously if you went to the right shop you could buy the knickers and the bra plus they were quite hard to get hold of and everything right

1:01:05 In front of her family on Christmas, Boxing Day, Christmas day whatever. Bearing in mind we're still only about 17-18 as well so I bought her underwear and the worst thing is right? I've got the size completely wrong! Completely and utterly wrong So not only is she mortified but anybody with half a brain is sat there going... We have to knock at Christmas Christmas! When she's gonna open shit in front of her parents at home. Oh yeah, bad on so many levels I mean i'm not gonna lie my eldest is 16 she's going to be 17 at the next christmas if she has a boyfriend on that stage or a girlfriend or anyone who buys her fucking lingerie that kid is gonna be out their fucking ear oh Glen

1:01:59 That's me, that's how detached I am from things. But i'm trying my best to get more...I'm just all about like yeah let's do it! Let's do it! It's gonna be brilliant but no I don't really think it through. I'm assuming you've grown since then? I don't know. I'm prone to a clanger. Her brother who was pissing himself her older brother was laughing so loud like he was on the floor crying Absolute gold. Yeah, yeah. No no! Well look that is the perfect way to wrap up I have not got round to my story about setting my dad up but we'll save that for next week. I've go so many things... Do you want to hear this one? Leave it on a cliffhanger It's not quite how it sounds but it is funny

CHAPTER 21 / 21 Discussion

Valentine's Special Preview and Outro

The hosts wrap up the episode by announcing a Valentine's Day special featuring female guests to provide an alternative perspective on romance. They provide details for the March intake of the Hero Academy and invite listeners to join the Team Superdad Facebook group. The show concludes with a reminder that no father is alone in his journey.

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1:02:49 I'll tell you what else i want to talk about next. Have you seen that thing going around on Facebook? Best gig, last gig first gig do you see that around on Facebook? Those sort of things go around all the time when they're trying to get a figure so uh...I will absolutely verbally respond to that yeah and you know what next Friday I want to get two women on because it is Valentines Day and i want to do a wrap-up Valentine's day special. And we'll try and do like an alternative, like Clangers worst experience, like for cringe presents uh... We will do that sir! Can we can we do four people on this whole setup so that people see? We could do ten, ten on StreamYard You know what as much as I'm up for another

1:03:31 Let's go for a verbal four way. I run the London podcast community, so I'll put it out there that we're looking for two women podcasters to come on and join us. Well listen if you are listening to this if you think that's going to be you then come and get involved! It's not that you have to be a podcaster but Someone who's easy breezy can just sit and chit chat like Glen and I do, and have a bit of banter. We don't want someone who is their first time! Woah! So many phrases... so many sentences... but i'm a gentleman today. We're gonna pop someone's podcast cherry on Valentines Day!

1:04:17 Glen, you're on Twitter aren't you? Tell people where they can find you on Twitter. They should definitely come and find some of your banter on Twitter. Almost anywhere else is a dating dad. Google that stuff and I will turn up like Ava Ruka and you won't be able to get rid of me! Do you put a grim white sock over the top?! And if you have listened to this, thank you so much. We're an hour and four minutes in. TeamSuperDad.com basically anything and everything can be found at teamsuperdad.com The Hero Academy we've got a March intake happening as long as you're in by March 1st You Are In! If you just want to hang out with us come over to Facebook and facebook.com forward slash groups forward slash Team Super Dad. We would love to have you there with us share this like it review it do flipping stick it on the

1:05:08 On WhatsApp with some grotty picture, the wrap-up is here for you every week. Glen and I signing off take it easy everyone team Superdad out bye! Glen i've got one of those random endings ready for this we're doing again oh i'm so excited This has been Team Superdad. Find us at teamsuperdad.com Join the program and create the best life ever for you and your children You are not alone! You're on Team Superdad