Every Holes A Goal - The Wrap Up #41

00:00 Welcome. It's not Friday, it's Monday, but it is the wrap-up and we are back after a few weeks off. It's great to have you here if you're watching on the live. It's awesome to have you here if you're watching, listening on any kind of recording. Yes, two dads sorting out the world, having a laugh and taking the piss. Welcome to the wrap-up. Welcome to Team Super Dad. Real dads creating their best lives ever. More time, more money, more fun. You are not alone. You're on Team Super Dad. Glenn, welcome back. Welcome back to the land of Podding. How's things been?

00:43 It's been forever. I know. Who'd have thought that coming out of lockdown was harder than going into lockdown? Well, actually, probably true. Is it sit on your ass at home and do nothing versus put your life back together? It's a basic law of physics, basically. Things in motion tend to stay at motion. Things at rest tend to stay at rest. So basically, we're just all living our Newtonian dreams. Oh, I'll have to ask another day, what does that bloody mean? If I'm sitting on my ass a lot, I'm going to stay sitting on my ass. If I'm busy, then I'm going to stay busy.

01:21 Basically, that's all it means. Oh, okay. And like some kind of law of physics pushing something that was previously not moving, it takes a little while to get things going again. Definitely. Yeah. All about conservation of energy or some shit like that. I don't know. It's far, far too late, Johnny. And I've had too many things blow up in my house for me to be thinking about anything other than the next steps. Yes. It's also why I did single combined science, which was like how to wire a plug and how the eye works. I could bloody do with that right now. I tell you what, I'm not exaggerating. And the last week, so my kid, my boy's light switch has stopped working.

02:05 I tried to replace that and the light switch ain't working. My kitchen light's just blown. One of my toilets is a bit plugged up and it just doesn't drain properly, which is the one the kids keep shitting in constantly. It's like, look, there's a toilet that works. Hit in that one. And then I came home from being out and about for a day or two and my kitchen ceiling's got this big water stain on it and like it was dripping a bit from my bath, but the bath wasn't on and now it's stopped and dried up. So it's a mystery. Johnny, mate, I just need someone who's done their basic engineering to come around and fix my house. It's not basic engineering. It's a BTech general builder's college.

02:50 Foundation. BTech Foundation year, where you get to do a bit more. I don't need foundations. Those are under the house. Those are sorted. But Next Door has been pouring shit into their foundation. They're building an extension. And I'm sitting here in my room. And all I can see all day at the side of my eyes, a bastard builder bum cracks constantly and them screaming and shouting about stuff. So yeah, foundations I've had enough of. Well, listen, we are back. It is episode 41 of the wrap-up, which is actually something like episode 80-something of the Team Super Dad podcast. Team Super Dad, we are a community, an awesome community of men, of dads creating our best lives ever, living the life we want to live and not the life we feel stuck in.

03:35 And we do that through mentoring, through our coaching. We work on focus, fitness, finances, family, and fun. And really, whatever your challenge is, wherever you want goals and breakthroughs, that's what it's all about. And the podcast, we do a serious one in the week and we do a silly one. Silly. That undermines our great work, really, doesn't it, Glenn? We do a light-hearted one. Used to be on a Friday to wrap up the week, but as Glenn and I tried to manage our diaries, it became evident to us that Monday nights was far better. Plus, we get to find out what we've been doing at the weekend rather than waiting a week to find out how our weekends were.

04:15 And what a weekend it just was as well. Because for those who may not be in the UK, we had UK Father's Day going on, which is, I'd like to think it was the biggest day of a dad's year. It never is. It's always a little bit of shit, but it's meant to be the pinnacle. Unlike the Mother's Day, where they get pandered and pampered from morning till nighttime and chocolates and breakfast in bed and all this sort of shit. Dads, you get a card about being old, bald and fat. And if you're lucky, you get to do something by yourself for a little bit. Do something by yourself. My gift to you, Dad, is not to be around you. Thanks. That kind of defeats the purpose. You do realize that, kids. No, I think there's been a watershed, Glenn.

04:57 We're going to talk about this. I think there's been a watershed around. around dads, around men, around Father's Day. Basically, if you are watching, then thanks for joining us here. Oh, we've got a comment. This is David Bain has kind of jumped in. Dad coach, long time I see. Thank you, David. Good to have you on board. Anyone can do that. You can comment in on the stream that you're watching. A couple of the Facebook ones. I think it's my personal account. I don't get to see them, but just dump it in the comments and we'll do our best to bring you into the conversation. If you go to streamyard.com forward slash Facebook, then that will make that even easier. We can see your lovely name come up in lights. David Bain,

05:41 he's on LinkedIn, right? He's got episode kind of 1 million or something, something like that. He's been doing live streams and podcasts pretty much ever since you could. Testimony to what happens if you get started at the beginning of something rather than wait a couple of years slash 10. Yeah, so share away. If you're watching this, please bring others into the conversation, other men, other dads, other family, friends, whoever you want to bring in and help spread the word because the more people we share this with, then the more people we can bring into the Team Super Dad community. First and foremost, the free group, which if you go to teamsuperdad.com forward slash group, then you can come in.

06:21 You'll get on the power list. You'll get invites to stuff. Tomorrow's training session, we have got Daniel Latto. We're talking about wealth creation for everyday dads. Everyday dads, busy dads, dads. Wealth creation for dads. Wealth creation, but let's define wealth because some days, you know, 20 quid in my pocket and I feel like a lord. When you put on a pair of shorts because the sun's out. Oh, man. Maybe that's just... I don't know, mate. I hope that's just our sheer basic appreciation of cash there, Glenn. Yeah, we know the value of a pound coin, don't we? Yeah. Our kids won't know. We talked about this the other day about digital money and stuff.

07:04 That joy of finding a tenor in your pocket will be lost on our children. Yeah, you kind of find in a credit card and hoping that how much is on the prepay and realizing it's probably about 20p and you can't really just take a thousand prepaid credit cards around it. It doesn't have quite the same cache, does it? Do you know what? If I emptied out, I've got to draw. Here we go. Here's an example. What's this here? Here's a mix, right, for all the people on the podcast. Sorry. Here's a mix. What the holy fuck is that? Is that some sort of businessman's Pokemon? Cards and storecards here, right? Including some travel ones, which have probably got random 10 euros on.

07:42 And then here, in a nod to the past, is business cards from some face-to-face networking events. Look at that. It's like a bloody ration book from the First World War. It's mad, innit? I'm just having a look. Approximately 80% of gift cards are spent on year within a year, which means 20% of those gift cards never get spent at all. But someone did actually give, I went to a live in-person networking event last week, an actual face-to-face in a room in some swanky private members club in Whitehall.

08:20 And it was amazing, just being around people and just having food that I didn't cook being served and wine and after dinner speakers and that sort of shit. And then at the end of it, people giving out business cards. Well, actually, there was a clear divide. There was the, I shall take myself as a middle-aged man. There were those who are older than me giving out business cards. And there were me and the people younger who were basically just bringing up the LinkedIn app and using the little QR code at the top and just zapping each other's QR codes to connect on LinkedIn a lot more easily. It was amazing to see these people just thinking, what are you doing? What is this thing? And then bemoaning the fact they've been carrying around business cards all these years. Oh yeah.

09:03 It was like Doctor Who 1950s meets Star Trek 19 meets next generation means. It was a talk on the ethics of AI and robotic processing. And yeah, there was a whole world on the singularity and it was perfect timing because on the Monday I was remembered that on the Wednesday I was doing a talk at someone called Digital Leaders, which was on exponential evolution in the digital world, which I thought with the title of the, I thought the title sounded quite cool. I knew fuck all about what I was going to say. And then spent Monday researching it and then Tuesday night went to this speech and this professor who's like a world-class professor just gave me loads of information and he was like, he did his speech and he was like, yeah, and then you talk about this and then this and that.

09:52 And I just, and then Wednesday morning, I was frantically rewriting. rewriting my entire presentation to try and make like make sure i could put some actual content into it it was amazing timing and this has given me flashbacks of doing talks and preparing slide decks and stuff how you prepare how long did you spend preparing this thing for um a couple of hours yeah i i normally um i i i do the trick and i don't know if anyone if anyone else is watching this and you you do presentations have as little content on it as possible but just have some nice images and a few notes that you can talk to that way that i've actually got on genuinely on google drive i've got a slide deck of 10 images these like random abstracty type images now i know what comes after which and my my skill then is to remember the order so whatever the fuck if someone says

10:45 oh have you prepared your presentation slides i can blank them and just say yeah yeah yeah here they are don't worry they're a bit weird that will make sense as i talk and then just rely on the fact that i can make up like if there's a one of them's a picture of an elephant um so about two-thirds of the way through it's an elephant picture and at some point i'll say something like oh and of course so we've been talking about um about this and of course the elephant in the room is yada yada yada and just making sure that i can just refer back to it in some way shape or form it's a great trick to have up your sleeve have a random slide deck just sitting on your google drive somewhere i i love that because in a nod to uh having confidence while giving presentations that is exactly what it's all about the person on the stage generally speaking unless you're unlucky you should know more about the subject that you're talking about than most of the people in the room so if you say confidence then no one's going to question you oh absolutely

11:39 yeah that's how i've built a career good good glenn well i love that we didn't we didn't plan on uh glenn osco's uh presentation skills tutorial 101 yeah but we can we can offer that as part of the team super led network uh hit johnny up for pricing yeah training session coming on that although it will be short and sweet no no no it'll be really in-depth and detailed and i've got a fantastic slide deck i'll take you through yeah a little meditation yeah 10 minute meditation uh so what uh let's let's let's give a nod to father's day seeing as we've we've just done that uh what did what did you get did you have your kids was it your kid weekend this weekend did you get them even if it wasn't your weekend uh it was my weekend which is nice um but uh it was frustratingly it was

12:26 also uh my daughter's birthday so the sunday the saturday we were spending uh with my my family it was my dad's wife's 60th birthday party and so from about midday got around there and i left the car home so i could i i knew i was going to have a few beers and then we found ourselves up until about you know um one o'clock in the morning literally we played cards against humanity and we were literally singing and dancing and stuff like that it was it was a magical night knowing then to sing and dance because you're probably london as usual it really was yeah yeah it was old school it really was uh but then knowing

13:02 there was there was going to be pain in the morning because we had to be up um it was both father's day for me but also my daughter's 11th birthday so i had to be up she we were kind of racing to see who would get up first she heard my alarm go off woke up ran down the stairs and made me a cup of tea so when i came down um i had a cup of tea waiting for me she gave me my father's day card and then we spent an hour just kind of snuggling on a sofa watching telly um then when her brothers and sisters woke up we could open her presents and make it all about her and that was lovely that so i got a little bit of a morning with them but then i lost them for the afternoon which is sad for me and normally i'd be like you know not in a bad place but really unhappy about it but because we split 50 50 it was

13:42 half the day with me half the day with their mum um i'll ask a question of you actually and get your advice in a moment but uh i actually booked out the afternoon and went playing golf with my dad and my brother so that was absolutely lovely um so that kept me occupied for the rest of the day well and you'll nod to father's day with uh with your brother yeah exactly yeah spent it with my brother and the old man and uh yeah playing golf best round of golf i've ever played which was only comparative because i'm really really rubbish but i i play golf like i dance enthusiastically and like yourself did you have much of a father what was that with cloth sticks close sticks and sequins

14:24 how about you how was your father's day father's day was great we went down to bright and the week before my dad doesn't do father's day so we kind of create these uh unofficial non-denomination uh celebratory uh days where he gets where i get to tell him i love him and appreciate him but we don't mention father's day and then it wasn't going to be my week weekend. Glenn and I both are separated co-parenting, single dads, whatever you want to call us. Um, we have we have dads of all kinds in Team Super Dad. Yes, dads in relationships, dads in unhappy relationships, and happy dads that are separated.

15:08 Um, so yeah, Glenn and I fall into that final into that third bucket. Bucket number three. Um, so yeah, I wasn't going to have the kids, and I was okay with that. I was okay with that. Uh, a sense like, so Mix a lot, there might be a big butt in here. A big button, ah, love big butts and I cannot. Um, no, no, well, they, uh, they, it was her weekend, so she said about um what about Father's Day? And she says, I was like, Well, it's your weekend, let's just keep it simple. I'll just do Father's Day on a different weekend to be honest. That's how I feel about that. And when you and when you're picking battles, and a couple people in relationships do this as well, they try and make it into this big thing, and it's like, but what about me?

15:53 What about me? And so, you end up having a big old ding-dong about something as simple as that. Let's just do it the week after. Let's just do it before. But the kids, this was the cool thing about it. The kids were really excited, and the kids wanted to make something of it. So, they were going down to her folks because they hadn't seen them for a year with COVID and whatever outlook on it that different members of her family had. So, they were having this Father's Day thing. Anyway, that got cancelled. So, she then said, Oh, they're there. We're not going to that. Do you want to have them? I said, Well, I'll speak to them about it. So, they were super stoked, and they came on the Saturday afternoon and went back on the Sunday morning.

16:33 Nice. So, we went out for dinner, which was brilliant. Life hack, by the way, don't go out on Mother's Day or Father's Day because there's or even Valentine's Day, right? Because they're absolutely stiffing you on the prices. Go out the night before. The place was kind of empty, although that could have been you know, COVID, I don't know. Um, and it's bloody great. We had dinner, uh, used the old Tesco club card points. So, instead of it being 80, instead of it being 80 quid, 80 quid, instead of it being 80 quid, it was a fistful of Tesco club card points and 15 quid plus a tip. So, that's not bad at all, is it? Yeah, well, just get all your petrol from Tesco's, and then twice a year, you get to go.

17:18 Oh, my petrol, only filled up twice this year. Okay, that's not going to work, is it? Well, your friend who lives 30-minute drive away, I'm plowing through the petrol these days, mate. I'm working on it. I am absolutely well, whatever the distance, you know, just wherever you live, ladies, hook me up. I quite fancy you, but I really want the Tesco club card points. So, I no, I was just saying, I woke up, got a presence, got the thing they made me breakfast in bed. Um, and I think there was some kind of frustration, some sort of tension building between the kids because my daughter kind of had some sort of low-level meltdown during the morning, and I couldn't work out.

18:03 I've been trying to piece together what it was all about, and I think he was playing Xbox when she wanted to breakfast in bed, and that pushed the whole thing back. So, I was sat in bed waiting, and she said I couldn't come downstairs until they brought it up. And I think he was playing Xbox, and I think that pissed her off. So, then two hours later, when we were in the park and she had a complete meltdown, I and I've put like Ercule Poirot, I think I've worked it all back to that point, and I will bring this up with her on Wednesday when I when I see her. But yeah, of course, and then they went back to their mums, and that was fine, it was all all arranged, but I think they were a bit they were a bit uh discombobulated about that.

18:46 They happily go between the two, but um, I, you know, it's sometimes you don't notice it all the time, but sometimes the kids can go a little bit wobbly about a handover, so yeah, usually when it's a breaking routine, that works worst, yeah, yeah, totally. And yeah, so Father said, by the way, I'll uh uh pick you up on a point. I'm pretty sure it's Father's Day all around the world, really. Normally, we don't coordinate this sort of shit outside of Christmas and whatever the days are that uh, that we don't want to remember, that's what I'm saying, like International Sausage Day or something, which certainly is a great holiday, and I'm absolutely here for it. Very different in certain countries and communities. The the uh

19:31 I think there was a big ground sweller, a shift around Father's Day this this year. Yeah, my kids' school, bearing in mind I'm on the PTA, I run the PTA, right? So, we generally do a Mother's Day thing and. I'm a little bit to blame because we've never done a Father's Day fundraiser. So this year, having organized kind of three or so fundraisers in the last how many years for Mother's Day, the head teacher said, oh, well, Johnny, you've got to go now because we're talking about the Father's Day fundraiser. Chucked me out of the Zoom meeting because I was the only dad in there, although John does help out on the PTA as well.

20:15 And they did a fundraiser for dads for Father's Day, which was brilliant. Nice. That is nice. Yeah, my kids, I mean, I knew what I was kidding months ago when I paid for it. But they each designed me a coaster. Because with the mums, they always give like flowers and chocolates and stuff like that. And they were like, well, what do you do for dads? And personally, I bloody love flowers. I think they're great. But they decided, yeah, so every kid designed a coaster and then it came as part of a card all made up and stuff, which is really, really sweet. I thought epic. Yeah. I got a mug, two mugs with the designs on it. So it's absolutely brilliant. But yeah, I think I got, you know, a guy reached out to me this week.

20:58 Actually, we got connected by a really cool lady I know called Penny Power. And that's a great name. Penny and Thomas Power. Cool, the strong name. Yeah. You're not always if you've got a name like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And actually, she's Penny Power OBE. So forward. See, see, it's basically nominative feminism. Yeah. So they hooked me up with this guy who's worked part of a group of dads who've put together this thing called Man Dad, a Man Dad, the Dad Media Company or the Men's Media Company. Not the first men's dad's media company. I've met Dad LaSoul, Dan Flanagan, member of the group.

21:38 He's got his group, Dad LaSoul. So not the first dad media group. And then Dan was in, was interviewed as part of an article in The Guardian where they were talking about the rise of dad groups, dad communities, all during the pandemic. And there were some really cool stats in there about dads and how they feel more connected to their kids and how they feel more confident about asking for flexi time and how paternity leave for men is now being in a lot of I say a lot of companies but people like John Lewis and these you know the normal sorts of guys make these early mover

22:22 what they call early moves whatever yeah first moves yeah they've they've I'm gonna bring up the article now yeah they they were just saying like how much the subject or the importance of of fatherhood and of dads and um in in do I say during during lockdown 78% of dads spent more time with their children 59 did more housework and 65 reported a better relationship with their child or children after the spring of lockdown fathers are much more involved and much more positive about being fathers and have the time and technology to connect with other parents and dads particularly says Adrian Burgess

23:05 so it's like obviously that I'm not going to disagree with that I'm going to bang bang that drum big time for with my team super dad hat on but just I feel like these kind of things have shifted with just little stuff like schools acknowledging Father's Day as much as they do Mother's Day it's getting there I think it's let's be let's be honest men have got it better in just about every single way and this is one of the few areas where we lag behind but being a dad is is a bloody big thing and it's an important thing for us to actually fight for it's one of the few areas where we can legitimately say you know what we get a bit of a raw deal on this um and i think it's it's early stages and it's getting there we've got a long long way to go and partly it's also about us as men stepping up and being better dads

23:54 um we've got that responsibility to do but then once we are doing that actually getting acknowledged for it and celebrated for it as well i think there's there's a lot more that we can be doing i know as you and me have joked about iron your own bloody shirts right or you know the other versions versions of that so 59 of men reported to doing more housework oh well they can report whatever they want but oh no it's very hard to sit there for six months and watch it watch it and more just means going from none to something you know that's a very vague description i'd put my cup in the dishwasher what are you talking about well i'll put my cup near the dishwasher anyway

24:33 so yeah we do joke but that is that is uh an important thing for well modern modern dads and that this is this is the thing is you've got modern dads who are kind of doing all that stuff and feeling unappreciated, and then the other they'd say it's called them traditional dance, still doing fuck all and probably pissed off that we're all doing stuff. Like, I hate you. Do you know how hard you got to make it for me? Yeah, you're proven I can have a job and actually be an active parent. I mean, what the fuck? We spent generations putting this in into sort of the mythical territory. I'm livid, um, yeah, and just to just to name-check something else, right?

25:13 Um, this guy's got another group, it's called Father's Football, and he's been running for about five years. He's got thousands of people in it now. Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? But yeah, so he so just like that book that I co-authored and was telling you about recently, being fine, um, 19 uh different men talking about their challenges with mental health. Um, this book, Dad, uh, from just it, just just dad's called Dad, yeah, and it's from the group is called the Music, Football, and Fatherhood Group. And uh, it sounds really cool. So, 20 dads, all from the perspective, so talking about fatherhood from their perspective.

25:55 And we've got miscarriages, widowhood, stillbirths, co-parenting, childbirth, work-life, dads at work, um, gay dads, stay-at-home dads, surrogacy, black fatherhood, dual heritage. Like, that's quite the description, quite the list there. Well, no, there's 20, 20 stories, so you can imagine, I guess they got one at one of each, basically. But I'm going to get that book and interesting to read that. So, I was just exciting to see a very different flavor to all the father stuff coming out. And across social media, was different. It was new. I'm not saying it was like a complete transformation. And I'm not even saying it should be.

26:40 My dad, I was talking to my dad about it, and he goes, He goes, My dad never starts or stops a sentence that hasn't got a swear word in, right? So he goes, fuck off. He goes, You were a quick shag. I know that. That's about as much effort as I put in, I think. And he's joking. He's joking. Like, you know, flip my neck. My mum has had cancer for however many years. And he took us motorbiking and go-karting most weekends to get us out of the house so she could sleep in. And stuff like that. And we had a cleaner and things. But, you know, my dad, probably more traditional than as Maverick as traditional, but yeah,

27:25 you were a good shag. I remember that. So, Glenn, on to the other subjects of my list with you. It's not just a list, that's a compendium you got there. What happens when you miss a week or two, isn't it? I know. Have you seen Goggle Box, Glenn? See, no, not only have I seen it, I've been on it, but only in terms of the TV. I've not been sitting on the sofa sharing my opinions. But it's very weird watching people talking about watching you. Very, very weird. But yeah, I have seen it and I do bloody love it. It's one of one of those things where if an alien came down or someone from some random island in the Pacific and he was trying to explain to them, no, no, we watch TV and on TV, we watch other people watching TV.

28:14 How is this level of inception entertainment? But it's brilliant. It's compulsive viewing. Yeah, it's like putting a free magazine in with another magazine. Yeah. It's mental. It shouldn't work, but it does so, so well. What about it? What's caught your interest? They've cranked it up. They've now cranked it up. They've just made drunk gogglebox. Not only are they turning random Joe Publix who've been on Gogglebox into celebrities, but they've now reverse engineered it and they now have celebrities. They're already celebrities. Obviously, very famous people, very famous, C-Les Precipretive.

28:55 Now they're sat there doing it. Oh, this is genius. I bet the marketing exec who came up with that, they took an early lunch that day, didn't they? So I don't watch. I must have professed, I'm not, I'm not like I've got gogglebox on Series Link, but we, but the girlfriend and I did watch it the other night and it was Eamon Holmes and Ruth, his wife. They do TV together and they're married, I found out. Yeah. Some other people's on there. Big breakfast, blondie, hot in the 90s. Oh, Denise Van Outen. Denise Van Outen. I would not have spotted her in a lineup of blonde and. Denise Van Outen look along if I was not aware that it was her. Melanie C.

29:40 Mel C, what, like the Spice Girl? Yeah, sporty spice. Blimey. And her brother, curiously. Basically, the B slash C-less celebrity had some random with them who obviously wasn't that. Right, okay. What if the other person was? So say you're like a dynasty and like all the members of your family are famous sort of. What if you're the Kardashians? They're going to be all sitting around telling, innate? Yeah, yeah. Eamon Holmes, clearly his wife is equipped. Eamon a roof, yeah, yeah. Then someone had their fella on. Oh no, Denise Van Outen's fella, he was such a cheeky, chappy Essex geezer.

30:22 He had to be some kind of... I'm going to goggle, bring it up, basically. It was just celebrity list, celebrity goggle boxes. It's just, it just blew my mind. And I'll tell you what the kicker was. Here's the kicker, right? I don't think they were at their home. What? The Celebs? No, I think it was a mock-up because at one point they discussed a section of TV of breakfast TV news. But then having processed this thought, I've realised that I must be an idiot because as if all those people that were ever on our goggle box were sat watching TV at the same time watching the same thing.

31:11 No, they send it out in advance. So I remember the TV show that I aired on last, it's a Channel 4 one. And I know they got sent the print of that a day or two early so they could film it. Then they could edit it down and then basically broadcast it immediately after our show. So yeah, they watch it beforehand, mate. They're not watching it live. No, but that's how that this is like the moment when I found out that stand-up comedians like they've practiced it and they do the same show night after night. Oh my God, what a sheltered little world you live in. You thought they were just going on stage and making this shit up every night.

31:54 I just thought they were really, really funny on stage and they would just buzz off the crowd and do a show. It was only because I'd not thought about it. I just hadn't occurred to me. Yeah, yeah, it's an unknown known. Yeah, yeah. So, oh, Ronan and Martin Kemp. There you go. There's two people. Oh, yeah, yeah, they're both famous. Yeah. So it's cheesy and cringe, but also brilliant crap TV. So, oh, the, oh, and a good, like all TV programmes these days, a very good, even spread of genders, races, disabled, well, fully able, lowly able, all mix.

32:34 It's like, do not miss anyone out. Have we covered everybody here? Have we got everybody? Which is a positive, but also, I think just as we find ourselves in this time where we're moving from like all blokes and then all blokes and some women as long as they're fit. Now we're getting some old people and some young people. Oh, we're definitely got to get lots of mixed race and some black people and some old. TV that represents our communities, you know, all these communities are paying for it. Let's make sure they're represented in there. But can you imagine if you put even just a TV like set of TV programmes from a few years ago against what it is now? It was only last year, they chucked a load of women on Talksport. Yeah, very true.

33:18 Yeah, the sort of, was it World Cup 2018 in the Russia? That was the first time they'd had a spread of female pundits. It's amazing to think how recently we've started to actually get on top of this shit. Yeah. I'm going to flip and go out on a limb here. But what I mean this in a good way, right? When it first happened, the thing that I was unhappy about was that some of them were crap. It wasn't that they were female. It's just that they were crap. But now it's kind of, it wasn't fair because of course they had to have a chance to work out who was good and who wasn't. But now... Also, we've had to educate ourselves in the public as well because let's take football as a perfect example.

34:00 10 years ago, look at any Match of the Day setup and it was probably the same blokes as 20, 30 years ago. You know, former football, former footballer, white middle-aged man, white middle-aged man, white middle-aged man, basically all saying the same things. Now, I don't know if you've watched Match of the Day recently. Mika Richards is f ⁇ ing brilliant and he has totally changed the atmosphere and the tone of everyone around him because he's not done the same sort of things. He's 32 years old. He's friendly. He's funny. He's gregarious. He loves a laugh. He even makes Rory Keene have a laugh as well. Alex Scott, she is so funny, but also so absolutely. She's the closest in terms of like pure punditry levels to a Gary Neville or something like that.

34:44 And they've just people changed the game and thought, you know, we don't have to just sit down and say, oh, for me, you almost hit it too well. And it should have done better, Clive. And just all those crap things that you know they're going to say. Now we've got better pundits coming in, changing the game. And I love it. It's superb. And it's a bit like the masks, like how quick things become normal and how normal before. It's like, oh, wow, these women know a bit about football. That's amazing. It is. It is so Neanderthal.

35:23 Some of the things that got said. I'm just glad it's starting to normalize and getting better. Yeah. Well, I got drawn into an argument, and this never goes well. Whenever I start an extract of Johnny's life, with I Got Into an Argument Online Today, so one of the father's rights groups have changed their name to Family Rights UK. Well, you can imagine how this has gone down with some of the chaps. But they're so angry. And I was angry for a while, but it's when you realize that,

36:00 and there's a little bit of a soapbox here for some of the dads, and even people are still talking about women in a kind of like a sort of basic derogatory way. It's that, and you said earlier about rising above this and being a good example and being the best dads that we can be, so that the conversation evolves around us as a good example. If you're absolutely pissed off and angry at women, I'm talking about dads in the single dad groups here, then you're no better than the toxic inverted commas, toxic women in the single mums groups who are ranting and raving about bad dads and why kids shouldn't be with the fathers and all that sort of stuff.

36:43 You can't match anger with anger and say, yeah, I'm more right because I'm angrier. Yeah, I've had to swallow my anger just this weekend, actually. I discovered that my ex, I shan't go into too much details, but she has a young boyfriend who's 24 or something like that, and they've been together for five years now. But she started buying him Father's Day cards and getting my kids to sign them. And for me, that just I'm furious about it. He's not their dad. He's barely an older brother too. He's literally old, like he's seven years old, six or seven years older than my daughter, and 16 years younger than my ex.

37:27 So how the fuck is he meant to be a so I've gone through all this all this anger and anger and anger, but I can't rant about it. I can't say anything about it because it's not me being the best version of me. You know, it's not going to change anything, me shouting and ranting and raving and so on. So it's just about what's more important, making sure my kids know who their dad actually is and being the best dad for them. And that's what I'm trying to do. And that's what we should all be trying to do: be the best dads for our kids, be the dads our kids deserve. Yeah, yeah. And pick your battles, which is what you're really, which is what you're really saying there. And this point in particular is for mums, but it counts just as easily reflected back on dads.

38:11 Is don't make it about you. Like, I want my kids to give him a card so that I feel more secure in my relationship or feel more of a unit when we're all together. I mean, if the kids are having a five years ago, there were problems because my kids didn't, some of them didn't want to sign it. And my ex kind of has forced them to in some way, shape, or form. So there is issues with it, but Jake. Yeah, just big ex. Yeah, Jake Blues on his way out of Juliet. Ah, well, we'll move on from that, Glenn. Point made. Point made. Good, good. What?

38:55 Let me see what else I shared with you here. Oh, did you see the Scotland fans in London? I mean, obviously, the Euros are on right now. The Copper America is also a line on that. Yeah, Copper America has been a little bit of shit, to be honest. Football's not been great. I've just seen random news sort of segments on Sky Sports. But the Euros is cranking up. We're just building up the knockout stages. Literally, as we're recording, I've just finished the match and I finally won one of my hackers. taken it takes a lot, a lot of luck to get some of these hackers over the line, I gotta say. What's that like a multiple bet?

39:31 Yeah, so um, me and a couple of mates, we've we put a tenner into a pot each, and then every day, each of us chooses a different series of bets for whatever matches are on the day and um, you know, who's got to win, lose, and all that sort of stuff. Um, so on a three-day game, three-day match day, um, three-game match day, you've got to get the results right all for all three of them. Um, otherwise, you lose one, you lose it all, and so you win more if it wins, but it's harder to come off. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that was like being at uni, but uni was such an eye-opener for me in kind of blokey stuff, right? Because I was with a bunch of northerners, yeah. So, Saturdays, when football used to just be on a Saturday, right?

40:09 We would wake up late, have some sort of fry-up, go to the bookies, pick up the slips, go and sit in the pub and have a pint, yeah, and then go and put the slips back in with like two or three quid, exactly like you're just suggesting. What a what a beautifully simple and enjoyable ritual that was. It really was, and I think you can do it these days as well, but you do it on an app rather than going in. I don't think my kids are ever going to go into a bookies bookies. I'm surprised they still exist, to be honest. It's so much easier to just log on, tap, tap, tap, done. Don't have to worry about it. Don't even need, there's not even a pencil for me to steal. I know it's like a time warp.

40:48 You go back, you go in there, and they've I mean, they are better now, but a couple of years, but you go in there and it's like they didn't know mobile phones existed. It's like, yeah, or you can just see your feet are sticking to the floor, which has been coated in the years' worth of tears of men losing their house savings. And the bogs are just always rancid in there. Um, I'll leave that story, story right there. But did you see the Scottish fans in London for the Euros? I did indeed, and it's one of those things where I like a bit of exuberance and I like it all, but it's a fucking pandemic.

41:25 They've come down to one of the most densely populated cities in the world in a pandemic, and they're all just hugging and kissing and licking each other's faces. They ain't even got fucking pants on half of them, and they're just sharing whatever's there. Come on, fellas! And yes, there was all these, there was a couple of pictures afterwards, which are um, of a couple of Scotland fans going around starting to pick up some rubbish because they trashed, absolutely trashed my city. Fucking scumbags. Um, but then because a couple of them woke up and put a few cans in a couple of uh Sainsbury's bags, oh, aren't the Scottish fans lovely for clearing?

42:04 You ain't cleared up after yourself, mate. You really, really haven't. I think that was a couple of people who worked in the you know the shortbread, uh, the Scottish shortbread biscuit shop. Oh, yeah, yeah, I think the guy that runs that told told his two Saturday boys to go and pick up because he felt bad. Probably those Saturday girls probably sounded less Scottish than I do. Yeah, Highland, some Highland shortbread. Uh, Saturday boys, how do they actually make those things in Scotland? I don't know. What did you think of it? Oh, I just the good bit about it was it was a bit old school, you know, there was no riot. I mean, they did have a bit of a punch up, but there were a few, even my old man, he goes to every England game, and he's in he's 61 now.

42:49 And uh, him and his wife were in a hotel, and even at a hotel, like a decent hotel with relatively posh people, there were still arrests there. Those Scots were absolutely hammered. Well, I think from a self-preservation point of view, if you were an England fan or anything other than Scottish at sort of 11:45, it was probably best to go to bed. Yeah, much, much safer. They've put washing up liquid in the Victoria Fountain in Trafalgar Square, and there was a bloke asleep, he left this like brown sludge, and there was this guy asleep in there the next morning.

43:29 Yeah, we don't want to think about that one too much. That is like breakheart stuff, basically. But the thing I liked about it was that they were having a bloody good time. True, true. Just if we can get back to that, then that'd be bloody brilliant. One guy said, he's like, I can't do Scottish accent. He's like, we've all had our jabs. We've all had our jabs. It's fine. Come on. Party time. Well, will they get through? Will Scotland get through tomorrow? No, no, definitely won't. Next question. I think England played for the draw the other night. I can't believe that the media gone to town so bad on it all.

44:10 Well, you know, you could think we played for the draw and we're trying to get second in the group. But if we get first in a group, then seven of our eight last matches, we play at Wembley. I mean, that's an advantage. you know what? We've got to win. If you're going to win, win in style. Let's just beat them all. I agree. That's, I totally, totally agree. Uh, oh, completely forgot to mention about gogglebox. There is a USA version, Joe Joe is on it, and Steve Wozniak, Steve Wozniak, as in the Apple Guru. Yeah, the larger one of the two, yeah. That's amazing. Skinny, he was the larger one, yeah. So, yeah, what was that just now?

44:54 That's our Steve. Yeah, that's a different tier of celebrity, that is Steve. It's Cassandra from the Gogglebox USA. Oh, yeah, man, I love that show. Oh, would you want to come on? Yeah, fuck it. Why not? I mean, you would. I'll be honest, if I was that rich, I'd be doing all sorts of shit like that. Well, I'd make a spaceship and try and go to Mars, probably. Like Bezos, Bezos and Elon. They're doing their thing. They just want to leave. Let's see, billionaires. They just want to leave the planet. And so I think they know something we don't. Glenn, they know what we don't know. They're on the inside track. They get a different email. They get like a top 50 people in the world, NASA kind of red list.

45:36 You recognize a WhatsApp group? Yes, it's a WhatsApp. Well, it's not a WhatsApp. Well, yeah, it is. Special. It's like WhatsApp Platinum. It's like the black card. And Bezos is probably sitting there thinking, well, you can only be part of this group if you get it. It's part of your exclusive Prime membership. Yeah. Platinum Prime. How'd you get on that? Well, and have a spaceship. So what about... Did you see a picture recently of Branson? I mean, he is old now, but he looks like he's withering away. He looks like a prince. He is tiny. I was at a celeb party once and he nearly dropped Courtney Love on me.

46:22 And Courtney Love, compared to him, is like some Amazonian goddess. She must be about a foot and a half taller than him. Yeah, he's the one sitting there surrounded by a bevy of beauties. Yeah. How old is I feel like I've been how much does Branson weigh? But I'm going to see. Oh, he's only 70. Oh, blindly. Born on the 18th of July, 1950. Well, yeah. I guess probably he's on some sort of, he's probably gone vegan or health kick or something. No, he's probably just had blood transfusions from vampire children or something. You know, that's what rich people do. No, to be honest. For the lawyers, I'm not saying that's true. That's purely satire, okay?

47:03 Don't come after me. If you go and look, Google, Google him, he looks, he looks like. Oh, no, I can't keep saying it. I'll bring him in. He's got a slab. Throw a picture up on the screen, Johnny. Let's see what he looks like. Let's bring him in. Share screen. When you say bring him in, I thought he was half going to introduce him. Imagine. Branson in the green room. There we go. There he is. Look. It's like a cross between Michael Jackson and Yoda. Oh, but he has lived a life. Oh, yeah. Have you read his book? New. The chapter on trying to break the round the world record in a hot air balloon.

47:43 Oh, yeah, yeah. Incredible. It's absolutely incredible. Yeah, I'd like to think if I was a stupid uber billionaire like him, then I'd do that's the sort of shit I'd do. I would build a spaceship. I would go hot air, but I'd buy a submarine. You know, you do all the things that when you're a kid, you're thinking, when I'm a grown-up and I've got access to adult money, then I'm going to do all these adventure things. Then we grow up and we don't do any of this shit. We're just happy to be able to afford a Starbucks coffee once in every hour. Now and then. Well, I'm glad you mentioned it, Glenn. Because one of the elements of Team Super Dad is fun and adrenaline and basically pushing out of our comfort zone.

48:26 I shared with everybody a couple of weeks ago about how I hardly scaling the Empire State Building with nothing more than a flipping hat on. But I did climb the top of some crazy kids climbing frame thing. When I got to the top, I realized quite how high it was and I felt, oh my gosh, that is pretty bloody high. So we've got to go out there and we've got to do some adrenaline. We've got to push ourselves to the limit. I've been speaking to some guys in Scotland. No, no, in Wales. Sorry. Yeah, no one will worry about that sort of a slip up. The Scots and the Welsh, basically, they're the same thing, aren't they? Oh, yeah, but you don't want to miss it out.

49:07 We will go to Scotland next time. But we're talking with The Beardy Man Adventures about doing the firewalking. adventure, like get out your comfort zone weekend with them in September. So I'm just putting some work around that and seeing if we can make that happen. So that is. People from Team Super Dad wanting to be part of that. Would they drop you a line? Should they just wait and listen? They need to be our teamsuperdad.com forward slash group. And then they can get on the power list where we're going to be sort of teasing out information about that over the next probably about the next eight weeks. We're going to do this canyoning and flipping cliff jumping and

49:50 they're like Welsh former squaddies. So there's going to be getting pissed and taking each other probably. My 16th birthday was spent in Wales. I think I've shared this story before. I was well out of my comfort zone alone in Wales on my 16th birthday. A lifeguarding course that I'd taken myself to do. So I'd gone to bed because there was nothing else to do. I was 16. It wasn't like I was going to go and drink in the bar, even though I probably could have, right? So I can hear them all drinking and laughing. And it's like,

50:27 it was like a, it was like a barracks, like beds with room, a bit like it was like exactly was a place where schools go away. So with dorms and there was only a few of us there, we had each other in room. So about 10.30, 11 o'clock, I hear this like laughing, getting louder, coming down the corridor. And he's like, what rooms he in then, boys? Thinking, wow, what is that? And then no sooner have I heard, thought, what is that? Then the door just gets kicked in. And they knew what it wasn't like it got smashed to pieces. They just kind of lifted it off its hinges and they were,

51:09 hey, hey, it's your birthday. It's your birthday. They dragged me down into the bar, absolutely doused me in beer whilst singing happy birthday, and then shaved my eyebrows off. Standard squatty behavior by all accounts, I've got to say. That is how I saw in my 16th year. What a way to celebrate. I do feel like it's been a rites of passage, basically. I was quite born up by that. So that is my mind. It's going to be awesome. It will indeed, but that sounds like you've got to be pretty fit to do that. And I know that I've got to be pretty fit by the time Sunday rolls around.

51:50 I'm thinking about at some point soon, I'll probably need your help to start working out some sort of training plan for the 10k we're doing this weekend. Yeah, it's Saturday, by the way, Glenn's. Is it Saturday? That's bullshit. Okay, Saturday. So I've see that's that's that's thrown my entire training schedule out the window now. I've got a day less to get this fat blob of a man into shape to do our 10k obstacle course fun runny type thing. Yes, there is wet bits. I hope you realize this. There's like traversing ponds and things. Wet bits? What like on jet skis and shit? No, just muddy ponds. Have you? Nobody told me there would be mud. Have you not looked at the website? I am aware of, I'm aware of the issues in the chat.

52:34 Have you got any like guests coming with you? Anyone to cheer you on? No, my kids are all fucked off and then nobody likes me enough to cheer me on. They're not going to come and just watch me. Okay, so we'll go together. Obviously, this is with no point us driving separate cars. I'll come and get you. Oh, we can. All right. That sounds good. Yeah. So watch the lives on Sunday morning, basically. Glenn and I will be doing some pre-event lives. But don't worry, Jo, the girlfriend, by the way, she just gets more and more call, basically. I have absolutely lucked out with an epic girlfriend. Don't you mean Fiona?

53:14 Fiona, yeah, sorry. Honestly, mate, you. No, I'm very, I'm proud and excited to be with this woman. I feel like she's not going anywhere soon. So, yeah, so there'll be shots before, which I know is going to appeal to your alcoholic tendencies. So there will be shots before we race. Okay. Yeah, this is one of the things that I'm a bit annoyed about, that there's no drinking stations on the way around. I was hoping that you'd be jogging, you know, instead of handing out glasses of beer as you're going, and I just, glasses of water, all glasses of beer just to keep me going. That's the only reason I'm doing this. Yeah. Like a prep school. The Eaton boys often have

53:59 prepared. Talio. If I'm not drinking until I vomit, then it's not worth doing. Okay, so we're definitely having a shot before that. I'm actually doing a 30-day fitness challenge at the end. at the moment. Not because I'm not fit, but because I do the daily sweat inside the Team Super Dad group, right? So you take a picture of yourself doing your exercise, walking, working out, whatever your workout is, paddle boiling time, like whatever it is, you've got to put your exercise up on the Team Super Dad group. So, but I haven't done it every day, ever. I do what, every day for a month, yeah, okay. So, so the challenge is I'm doing at least the super dad workout. So, at least every day, I'll do press-up, sit-ups, burpees.

54:42 That's impressive. What one of each? One of each is called the Triumph, the Max Triumph, Tri Maximus, something or other. But no, it's amazing, right? Just by saying you're going to do something every day, how I'm then compelled to do it. And like the idea of not doing it has now become abhorrent simply because I said that's what I'm going to do. Okay. It's commitment and accountability. Yeah, and which is everything Team Super Dad is about. It's exactly why we're doing it all. But

55:24 one of the fitness instructors' clients said to her this week, oh, well, yeah, this is great and all that, but no, I can't possibly work out during the week. This is one of the coaching groups that I'm in. So she's telling me, she's like, what do I do with him? But that level of being right about something, just saying, I'm not, I couldn't possibly. I know I said I want to make money, but I couldn't possibly call people. You've got to get over that hurdle. I couldn't possibly lose weight. I want to lose weight, but I couldn't possibly work out every day. Like this kind of negative talk holding us back. So full respect for you doing the thing on Saturday. We're going to have a lot of fun.

56:10 And I'm interested to see whether the whether I survive. Whether you think you're going to get round. Clearly, you said yourself about how you have a latent level of fitness. But we might be testing that to the max. Well, the only way to know your limits is to break, go up to them and push them hard. And so, yeah, fuck it. Why not? Don't wear big leather trainers. Don't wear your Air Force ones. You need to wear it. No Air Force ones. How about my denim jeans? Is that that will work? Yeah. Yeah. Puff a jacket. Denim jeans. It will help me float. It looks like a life-savier, life preserver, doesn't it? So that will help me float and I can just bob along.

56:54 I'm hoping you're going to dress appropriate. I'll bring you some pre-workout juice as well so you can get some mate. That sounds like a concoction. A shot and some pre-workout booster. That'll be perfect for you. Mate, it starts at 10 a.m. I plan to be half cut by the time I arrive. I know. A couple of things before we finish up, Glenn. I interviewed Mark Ormrod last week on the podcast. I should have mentioned this earlier on in the wrap-up. Mark Ormrod is a Afghan vet. He's also an Iraqi vet, actually. He's not just an Afo, not that all soldiers aren't awesome, right? But he's a Royal Marine commando.

57:39 So badass, you know. And do you remember a while back? We would joke. I showed that video of him, some guy running on his blades and falling over, and we were laughing about it. Oh, imagine how gutted you are as a soldier to tread on a mine. Well, I had him on the podcast. Oh, wicked. What was he like? What's he like? How would I view that? Listen to that podcast. Just if you go to teamsuperdad.com forward slash get podcast, it will link you into the Team Super Dad podcast and whatever device or service you listen to. But yeah, he said, because he lost both his arms, lost both his legs and one arm.

58:21 So you'd think you'd be gutted about that. You think that would ruin your life. You think that would be the end. And he did have to pull through. He did have to get his head round it. But he's now created through this kickstart in his life a new level of gratitude and for being alive and a new level of focus and intentionality. He's just doing stuff. His relationship with his wife is incredible. His relationship with his kids is incredible. He's got multiple businesses. He says, he goes, I could have just retired. He goes, I get a war pension and a soldier's pension because I got blown to bits basically.

59:04 basically. He said, But I go, I don't, I just don't want to do that. He said, So I went and learned about property investing. He says, We've got a few properties. I went and learned about how to set up an online course and online business. And he's just, he's, he's just an everyday dude, but it's such a level of speaking to him because he's saying, Well, I needed to work out how to do that. So I went and did it. They told me I'd never been, and I said, Bollocks. And it was interesting. He said, when he his treatment in the UK, they were quite soft with him and sort of, oh, well, you know, do your best. See if you can walk to there or no. You've spent a hard day like better to better

59:46 day off tomorrow. Then he went to America and they like stuck a pair of blades on him and just like, right, we're going to the ball. He's like, what do you mean we're going to the mall? Yeah, we're going shopping. So they put him in real life situations where he had to go up escalators and he had to like get bumped by people and he had to step around shopping carts and other stuff. And he said it was going to learn a lot more from that rather than just walking forward on the treadmill, didn't you? And that was one of the reasons why. Do you remember we were laughing about when he told his mate to fuck off because he fell over and he said, and this is this is a real sort of metaphor for us all. He said, when something goes wrong and people try and crowd around me and like, oh, you okay? Let me help you.

1:00:29 Let me help you. He's like, no, what I need is the space to go through my routine to get back on my feet. I can do it. It's not like no legs and one arm. He said, to get back up, I literally have to make myself into a triangle and then start to bring in the different parts of me until I then like up. And he said, it's not that I don't want help. He said, it's that I'm just better off without it because I can, I can, but it's just a real quality bloke. And of course, we said to him, what was it like getting blown up? And he goes, I remember all of it. Absolutely all of it. And the worst, it's also quite funny.

1:01:10 When they like, they bandaged him all up and they were going to fly him out and they put him on the back of a truck and he fell off. God, I love the thing. I've just been blown to bits. You can't even lift me out. You're going to drop me on my head. Yeah. And you check out the story. One of the doctors at the camp, they couldn't get oxygen into him. And she did this special maneuver that went through his chest or some crazy maneuver and saved his life. So powerful, powerful stuff. So many levels. So I encourage everyone to go and listen to that.