The discussion wraps up with a look at the authenticity of "pitchmen" like the fictional Don Draper and the real-world marketing of the Obamas' film American Factory. The hosts theorize that the film is targeted at the "Joe Biden crowd" to clean up political vulnerabilities regarding China. Finally, the Popeyes campaign is hailed as a "masterpiece of a nudge" for successfully breaking through a long-standing cultural taboo.