The hosts summarize the moral failings of Nicole Hannah-Jones, accusing her of "staggering hypocrisy" for profiting from Shell Oil while condemning historical figures for their moral failings. They argue that her "racialist" interpretation of history serves her own self-interest and the needs of a "petty bourgeois" social stratum. The segment concludes by questioning how she can reconcile her feminist and environmentalist rhetoric with Shell's record of violence against women and the earth.