91: Scott Free

00:05 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for April 5th, 2023, episode number 91. Hey, did you miss us? We're back with another Mo Facts with Adam Curry. That's right. Month of April 2023. I'm Adam Curry coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country. Time once again to spin the wheel of topics from here to Northern Virginia. Please say hello to my friend on the other end. Ladies and gentlemen, Mr. Mo Facts. How you doing, Adam? I'm good, Mo. How about yourself? I'm doing well. Doing well. I'm so happy to hear that. Now, it's been a oh man. Let me see. The last time we did a show was, I think, February, if I'm not mistaken. Middle of February. And a lot of people missing us, missing the regular shows.

00:48 And Mo and I have been talking. And kind of came to a conclusion that, you know, there was some big changes in your life, Mo. You know, we started this show. How many years ago has it been now? Has it been almost four years, I think? We're headed into the fourth year. In the fourth year? No, no, no, no. We're headed towards the fourth year. Yeah, exactly. I remember because we first started talking when I was on my honeymoon. Right. Which I remember. May 15th. May 19th. Oops. May 19th. 2019. Easy to occur. Yeah, I know, I know. And it was, yeah, it was, I don't know, almost maybe a couple weeks after that after we were talking back and forth. And then we decided, hey, let's do this show. Of course, things were very, very different then. You had

01:33 a corporate job. You were kind of set the way you wanted your life to be the way that you expected it. And then boom, not only did COVID hit, and they came out with the vax mandates, and that really changed everything, didn't it? That took my life into a whole nother trajectory that I didn't expect and has caused some time tension other than anything else because when I do this show, I'm dedicated 100% to making the highest quality product possible. And if I can't do that, then I guess we might need to make some changes.

02:12 So as it looks right now, we're going to be bringing the show to an end, but not right now. We're going into the final season. I guess that's how I look at it. We got, I want to get to the 100 number because I think that's that's significant to me as far as accomplishment. As you know, I know who knew I was going to be a podcaster. First of all. Also, but you were forced into being an entrepreneur. I mean, you had to set up a whole different business just to really keep some consistency going in your family fed.

02:49 That's correct. And what people don't understand with the whole vax situation and why we talked about it so intensely on several episodes is it wasn't that I was losing one job and you go to another job for what field I am in. There's kind of like you're blackballed for lack of a better word if you're not vaxxed. And so I had to, like I said, go out on my own, be an entrepreneur. And that's consuming far more time than I thought it would. But that's my foundational wealth. And as I told you when we first discussed this, I'm torn between two families, my

03:27 natural born family or my actual blood family and the facts family. And this wasn't an easy decision, but I'm not going to look at it as a negative. I think we got 10 episodes to go and we're going to make a party out of it. That's the only way we can do it in the only fashion. And I have some episodes I've been dying to get to. And also, I want people to know that, you know, it'll probably take us. I mean, so the reason for the time in between episodes is literally because Mo has to do so much work. But it was different when you had the corporate job. It was a little easier for you to find time to do that. Allow me to explain the mechanics of that across the four years of us doing this show.

04:11 When we first started, I was an individual contributor at my job and I could consume a lot of content. Podcast, as you know, people consume the level of content is being consumed. I could consume that while running my investigations and experiments. And I could make notes of time stamps as I was doing it. And then there was a change when I went into management where you're more in meetings. That's not that free ear time that I used to have. And that's when this show became a little bit more sporadic because I'm at the will of my family, my job, you know what I'm saying, and myself squeezed in there and the show. And then it went from there. And then now I'm working for myself. And it's even less time to actually digest the information.

04:56 I want to let people know that, for instance, this show. listen to 90 pieces of information, some ranging up to two hours. I don't do any 1.5x, as you pointed out, is unhealthy, and I've never done it. Not good. It's very unhealthy. So I actually consume it. And then you go into the clipping process and then the ranging. And I'm very critical of myself when I'm doing this because, like I said, I'm a professional at doing this. I didn't start off that way. I mean, because this is my first Fourier in podcasting. But what a hell of a way to do it with the guy who created it. I'm trying to tell you. Like, that's a movie. We're going to make a movie out of this once it's all said and done.

05:41 Because how does that work? You know, how does that even work? And also, you never know what the future will bring. And of course, we become friends. We become brothers throughout this process. And, you know, we'll always be. In fact, it was the hardest part is because the show has to be fresh and us not really communicating beforehand. That's always been my rule. And that worked well. You even would not listen to no agenda, which is how you found me in the first place. That's correct. And so we really couldn't even talk that much in between shows just because we didn't want to ruin too much of the show. And it just kept getting wider and wider.

06:22 And you came to me and said, hey, this is what's going on. And I think it's the right decision. It's definitely the right decision for the show. No doubt for your family. I mean, you got four kids. When I heard that you were falling asleep on the couch at night with your shoes on, this is, but we're going to round it out. We got, including this one, 10 more episodes to go. So they will be spread out still. We'll be able to probably schedule them a little bit better now now that we have less stress of trying to get stuff done. And you never know what the future will bring. You never know. So you never know. You never know.

07:02 And of course, we're still value for value. And we appreciate all the value people have given to the show, which has certainly helped in comment. It certainly helped during the transition, you becoming an entrepreneur. And we appreciate all of that. And we're, you know, I agree. But to take this to 100 is going to be, it's also timeless, right? It's a beautiful document that people will be able to listen to far into the future. And who knows what the next chapter will bring. And that's the whole point of before we get to the wheel is that I want to make a product that you can start from one.

07:42 And if you find it five years from now, if you're that one that found it five years from now, it's still relevant. I try to unpack the history behind things. We hear a lot of surface talk, especially on the topic of race. We're not race exclusively on this podcast, but that's what brought us to the table, right? What Malcolm said. Exactly. And I think four years, we've been having a four-year conversation where we didn't start off where we were friends. Hey, let's do a podcast. We have become integrated each other's lives off of this conversation and what we take away from it back into our everyday lives.

08:21 So hopefully we provide that value to other people that they can open up and have that conversation with someone or at least have a better understanding about it. So like I said, this next, I'm trying to tell you, these next 10, we're not going out or the duh. I hate it that I brought it up. I told you that before. The wire, my favorite television show, went one season too long. Game of Thrones went one season too long. And you all, one thing about it, you always leave them wanting more. And in sports, you don't want to be the old Kobe. You see what I'm saying? Like, and this is not a retirement. I'm just saying the retirement of this conversation. It's going to, nobody did what we did, and nobody will ever be able to do what we did. I'm certain of that.

09:04 I'm very proud of the work we've done so far. And I can't wait to get all the way to one double O, man. Very exciting. What do you say? Syndication. How about we spin the wheel, man? Let's see what we're going to do today. There it is. The wheel of topics riding around. It goes where it stops. Nobody knows. Of course, Mo Fax does because he set it all up for us once again. A dynamite show. The topic for Mo Facts with Adam Curry, episode 91 is. It's okay to be white. Oh, oh, this is a show for me. It's okay to be white. Nice. It's okay, Adam. Well, we're not serious. We're not sure. With the whole Rasmus

09:46 poll and Mr. Scott Adams interpretation. Yes. We had to talk about this. Scott Adam was. was right, and Scott Adam was wrong. So we're going to have to figure by the end of the show. We'll figure out which is which. Hold on a second. And what he was wrong. Do you realize how happy Scott Adams will be to know that a whole show was done about this particular chapter in his life? I hope he hears it. Oh, believe me, he will. Believe me. And I have a love-hate relationship with Scott. I mean, I'm a fan, but then what he did personally, I understood. I think I understood exactly what he did. I got it.

10:28 I kind of know his situation. I don't know if it's unpacking exactly the way he expected, but he's in a position, I think, to where he can ride the wave, whichever ways it goes. And of course, I'm really excited to hear what you have to say about it. And the thing about it is, I don't know how you, this is the essence of this show. I don't know what your takes were. I stopped lit. Whenever something I'm going to work on, I think it's going to be on the No Agenda Show. I stop listening. So I don't know what your take is. And you don't know what my take is. But we're going to walk through this. We're going to walk through some history, as we always do, and why maybe his

11:09 statement was taken that way. So let's just go hop right in. And the newspaper drops Dilbert. We turn now to the fallout from the racist rant by the creator of one of the nation's top comic strips. Newspapers across the country are dropping Dilbert, and Stephanie Ramos is here with more. Good morning, Stephanie. Hi there, Rebecca. This isn't the first time Dilbert comic strip creator Scott Adams has made some controversial comments, but he is now experiencing possibly the biggest repercussion of his comments about race. This morning, another newspaper is dropping the popular comic strip Dilbert after its creator was accused of going on a racist rant.

11:49 Dilbert's being canceled all over the country. The Star Tribune in Minneapolis has joined the Los Angeles Times, Washington Post, and USA Today, no longer printing the cartoon, poking fun at office culture, after creator Scott Adams revealed his interpretation of a poll from Rasmussen Reports. If nearly half of all blacks are not okay with white people, according to this poll, not according to me, according to this poll, that's a hate group. That's a hate group. And I don't want to have anything to do with them. And I would say, you know, based on the current way things are going, the best advice I would give to white people is to get the hell away from black people.

12:32 Adams says he was only advising people to avoid hate and claims his quotes were taken out of context. So, first of all, not a single person reached out to me and said, Hey, man, you haven't done a show with Mo. Is that because you're taking Scott Adams' advice? No one thought that. No one thought that. Just say that. We have an intelligent set of producers. So I'm sure nobody said that. Oh, that's what it is. He's taking Scott's advice. So I have to be honest. The thing I was triggered about is the hate. You let a minority of a poll, and I think it was only 13 black people asked if my numbers are correct, somewhere around in there, less than 20.

13:15 That's more than enough. That's just fine. And you let a minority say, hey, they're a hate group, especially with what that term means now. We're not, we're in a whole different world. When you start labeling people like that, oh, that's a hate group or that, this and that. And then Audacity to think he could just join the black race. We didn't draft you in the race draft. You just can't join. You have to be drafted. So here's how I took that when I first heard this. Let me put it differently. In general, I like Scott Adams.

13:54 And I don't really know him that well, but the only thing that I've never liked is the constant playing around because you know that everything he does, he's thought about, he's thought about how he's going to do it. He thought about what he's going to accentuate or exaggerate. And it's all to mess with people's heads to get a response, to get a reaction. And I got tired of it. Like, I don't really know when he's doing stuff if it's the real Scott Adams because that actually is Scott Adams. He's always noodling in people's heads to get some reaction to do something with it. And personally, as a human being, I got tired of it. It is tiring.

14:33 And that's, to be honest with you, the only thing you're going to hear from Scott Adams, other than two clips, is the meme. Because what we're going to do here is examine. He became a meme. Oh, yeah. He became a viral sensation. This is what he wanted, but he doesn't understand. understand. And it wasn't black people were really upset because I'm gonna be honest with you, a lot of black people don't know who Scott Adams is. We know Dilbert. You know, we've seen him in the newspaper. We've seen him on the Staples ads or whatever, Office Max, whatever ads it was. I mean, he was doing big promotions with. But we don't know Scott Adams as a person. I was a little perturbed as a person that wouldn't accept the vaccines in his life.

15:16 The way he handled that, that's kind of how he came across my radar is more his take on the vax. And I think this was a distraction from that. Interesting. Because he had took so many L's, he was getting meme to death off of his takes on the vax. So it's like, oh, let me stick my finger, you know, in this socket to, you know, and you're going to have a built-in fan base. Let's be honest. Racism has a built-in fan base. As soon as you say something that could be taken as racist, you have a built-in fan base. Yeah. Automatically. And they exalted him to like God level when he said this. Yeah. Finally, Scott, Scott's telling the truth. Yeah. Which,

16:01 as you know, me, Adam, I'm 100% against forced integration. Yes. 100% again. If you don't want to be around me, I don't want to be around you. That's perfect. And we talked about this several times on the show. Like I said, the only issue I had with was the hate part because we know with BI, was BEI, no, Black Identity Extreme, BIE, that could be taken in a whole nother way. And like I said, be memed and chopped to be used for that. But I said enough. But that's exactly the point. And that's the exception that I've always had with what he's done. He puts the hate, the word hate in there on purpose to trigger.

16:47 He did that purposefully. Correct. Which I'm going to shoot him some bail or bail him out. Sorry about that. And say this one thing. I got to give him the same benefit of doubt I gave Kanye. Sure. Because he did the exact same thing Kanye did: I have enough money where I could pretty much say anything and it really doesn't affect my day-to-day life. But oh, he was wrong. Well, that's interesting because when Dvorak I brought it up on no agenda, I said, oh, Scott went full Kanye. And Dvorak was laughing because he got it. He said, oh, yeah, this is exactly what it is. He went full Kanye. But I think he did it in a smarter way.

17:28 I think he, when I saw him, and I knew it wasn't true, when I saw him go on Hotep and said, This is the, I did it all for this. I just wanted to have this one interview with you with Hotep. I'm like, okay. Yeah. Well, we'll see. It was kind of true. I think he did some other stuff. But I thought that was a good wrap-up. I thought it was a fun way for him to bring this thing to fruition. Right. Which, as from my take on it, I can't tell if that was damage control or if it was pre-planned. Same way with Kanye. You don't know if it's right. Is he reacting to the blowback?

18:08 And he's like, oh, I can spin it this way. No, I think I think he was looking for the seminal black man to have a conversation with. It should have been you, honestly. But he was looking forward to that. Yeah, because Hotep gets stuck on certain topics, which I think may even go beyond what Scott Adams understands about black Americans. Certainly, I mean, does he really understand the Hotep culture? I don't understand it fully. So that's taking it to another degree. But I think he was waiting for maybe he would have wanted more of a Jason Whitlock. I think that probably would have been what he wanted. Just my guess. That would have been more appropriate for him to roll out what he was really saying, but it worked well enough.

18:51 And it wasn't too long. It was good. I enjoyed that episode he did. Like, okay, I got you. And the only thing I then took into account is like, I don't think, I think it's a shame that he believes locals is the way to go. I mean, he's not doing it for the money. I would have preferred to have seen Dilbert value for value. That's all. That'd be my only thing. Oh, there was a better way to do that. But okay. All right. So let's go ahead and get to the second part of the GMA clip. Adam says he was only advising people to avoid hate and claims his quotes were taken out of context. You know a live stream and said, stay away from black people, every one of them.

19:35 There's no exceptions. Whatever you do. Just ask yourself. Was there any thinking behind it? Yeah, was there maybe a why to that that you haven't heard? heard yet? If you heard it in context, wouldn't you disagree with it? And the answer is, I haven't seen anybody disagree for three decades. Adams produced his comic strip, Dilbert, which satirizes office culture. Dilbert appeared in 2,000 newspapers in 65 countries and 25 languages, guys. All right, Stephanie. Thank you. Thank you, Stephanie. Good report. Thanks, Steph. So I don't buy that.

20:17 There's no way you can take what he said out of context. Now, you can say I was trolling to get attention, you know, to bring attention to a beer. I might be willing to say, okay, that's a possibility. But what he said verbatim, and I got it in the show a few times to remind us what he said, because that's why I'm a little skeptical. Because it's like, come on, like, how can you say black people become in a hate group and take that out of context? Like, if you're saying I did this as a social experiment, maybe. But does that be taken out of context and then say, what was the other one? Just stay the hell away from them. That kind of thing. Where, how can you take that out of context?

20:57 And to be honest with you, how many black neighbors do Scott Adam really have, rich as he is? I mean, that's the thing is like, like, he just woke up one day as I'm leaving Harlem. You know what I'm saying? Like, all right. Like, come on, Scott. I mean, but it's two things. One, it's okay to be white. We're going to examine that. It's a meme in itself. And then two, the climate. I don't know if you're aware or not because we have different Twitter timelines. And my timeline is kind of weird in itself. There's a lot of videos showing black people attacking white people.

21:38 Have you seen this? Is it showing up on your timeline? Yes, yes. Particularly on the Subway. I've seen a lot of those videos. The school buses, the kids. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yep. Saw that one, the kids. Yes, I did see that. Yeah. And, you know, I'm intelligent enough to know it's one video. But I can also show you Sixth Street of Austin, where it's everybody's beating up on everybody. You know, it's like, doesn't matter what color you are. So it's also in just a very violent, upsetting time for people. So there's people are just pissed off. And it's no context. It's no time stamp. No. Because people are like, we need to remove these from the internet. I'm not with that. You know, it's free speech.

22:21 Put it out there. Now the victims want to take legal action. That's another thing because you should be able to protect your identity from being created as a viral video and have that follow you for the rest of your life. But these videos could be 10 years old. Who knows? But this is the climate he chose to leap out in headfirst and say, okay, stay away from black people because they're a hate group. And it's a lot of people that see these videos like, yeah. But what I find interesting is the same people that can say, how can black people look at a 15-second clip of a cop shooting, you know, and not

23:02 get a certain, you know, how can they look at it and not know the context and get upset over it? These are the same people who are getting upset over a 15-second violent act, you know, clip and they're getting upset over it, which we all know. All this is the spells in the monster. Go ahead. Yes, exactly. Thank you. Yeah, you just spells because what you, what no one can take into account is what the algo is doing. And, you know, I've studied this a lot. And algorithms, certainly on Twitter are divisive. They are meant just the American media model is if you're if you're anything here, the opposite will be brought in to your timeline.

23:43 That's just so, and it'll be the opposite of what you like. That's how the general American media model algorithm works. It's what the television does. It's what politicians do. The only one funny enough that doesn't do it is TikTok. But they got their own problems, but they're like, oh, you're all black over here. You're all white over here. You're right over here. You're left over here. You're blue. You're red, et cetera. So what we don't know is how, you know, as you prefaced, I don't have your timeline and you don't have my timeline. Then there's no way to ever know exactly what it is. But what you're saying is correct, is different. And it's intended to be triggering and none of it's real. It's a spell.

24:25 Right. And it's working very well. And another media adage that was very popular is: if it bleeds, it leads. I'm sure that's factored into the algo as well. And one more, just to add some context to when he said this statement. when he said this statement was the video of the alleged kid. I mean, the kid allegedly attacking his teacher over a Nintendo Switch. That was simultaneously being said. I mean, happening when this is being said. Which I'm sure he did not know. Right. So that's what I'm saying. He stepped right in it. Just like, I don't know if Kanye knew that the ADL was having their annual meeting when he said what he said, you know, or did he?

25:09 I mean, these people are very intelligent. So who knows? But I just want to give context to how it was received. But for the most part, I didn't hear black people being, oh, that's Scott Adams. You know, that was the bullet, the media class, the intellectuals. I also don't think so. He did not intend to communicate with black people. He was communicating with white people. Right. No one else. And when he went on Hotep, he knows Hotep's got white people watching. Correct. And I don't think he would even attempt to communicate with black Americans. Honestly, I think he's smart enough to know. I really don't know. He said he was in

25:50 the family. So it's like. You're leaving? You just had a little bit of adversity and you just bail on us, huh? Okay. You see how that goes. So I have a local report. And this is what I witnessed on my local news. And I wanted to play this because we know once it goes local, this is like, oh, it's trending on YouTube or Twitter or TikTok or wherever. Let's get it into the local news and get it out to the masses. And this actual segment is called Trending. But this is WSA9 in DC. Trending this morning, fans of the comic strip Dilbert will have to find their laps elsewhere.

26:32 Global media company Andrews McMeal Universal has cut ties with the cartoonist behind the comic strip, Scott Adams, following his recent social media commentary on race relations in air quotes in America. Yeah, Adams was responding to a poll asking black Americans if they agreed with the statement, it's okay to be white. The poll said just over half of the respondents agreed with the statement. Adams decided that made black people a hate group and said this. And I don't want to have anything to do with them. And I would say, you know, based on the current way things are going, the best advice I would give to white people is to get the hell away from black people.

27:13 Adams failed to acknowledge the phrase it's okay to be white was popularized by white nationalists online and is often used to troll people. Newspapers across the U.S., including the Washington Post, have dropped Dilbert in response to these comments. Adams said on Twitter that he was only, quote, advising people to avoid hate and suggested free speech in America is under assault. Before we talk about this, having been in corporate America and corporate culture, did you read or did you look at Dilbert? Did you identify with Dilbert's corporate culture? I mean, is that something that they, I mean, I've never really looked forward to the next Dilbert because I've never really been in corporate culture that way.

27:56 Right. Were you? I was more of a Curtis fan. Okay. When I was reading comics, I mean, I haven't had a newspaper in how long. So that was the other thing that we don't buy newspapers anymore. I think his bigger deals is probably with licensing and the books and whatever. But like I said, you're aware of who Dilbert is. It's an icon. The head. The artist style. The head is iconic. But we don't really know. It just doesn't. It doesn't. It's a bad example to use with Scott Adams because we just, it's lack of knowledge to be upset.

28:39 You know, like who? Yes, exactly. I understand. Yes. Precisely. All right. So I think I have two more clips. Let's go ahead and breeze through these two right quick. And we'll get, I just want to get your reaction to her reaction. Like, she did her report. Now here comes the editorial information. I'm so, let me just say this. I am so disappointed. Is she black? Yes. This is, I forget her name. She's an icon in local news here in DC. All right. I'm so, let me just say this. I am so disappointed and exhausted. Yes.

29:17 And even with, and you've got to consider the source here. Is this, are the poll stirs, are they leaning one way or the other? Is this meant to divide? Is this meant to stir up controversy? Why even have that statement? Is it okay to be white? Of course, it's okay to be white. It's okay to be black. It's okay to be, you know, and so the question itself is for me just a question meant to troll. And this person fell for it. And to think that that's really what I have to say about that. It upset me so much as a black person to really believe that that is what was gleaned from a poll that, in my opinion, was meant to divide in the first place.

30:03 Oh, okay, interesting. So I think she's right that Scott Adams is doing this because he thought the poll was bullcrap. He's like, what is going on with these polls? I'm pretty sure he thought that. Right. For her, though, it's not. Does she really not know what's going on? I mean, this is the first time I've heard a news person question a poll. I mean, typically it's always, oh, yeah, orange man, bad. Yeah, we all know that. Oh, yeah, white nationalist on the rise.

30:39 But now when it comes down to this, I think that that was kind of that gives me a little pause here that Scott Adams at least got through because she's like, well, this poll must be just a triggering thing. And of course, she thinks he's dumb that he fell for it. That I think is rather humorous. And did he fall for the poll? Is he dumb because he fell for the poll, or is he dumb because he's a dumb white guy? Lacked the awareness that it's okay to be white is a trolling question. Neither. That's the point. He's intelligent. He didn't fall or didn't know. He was using it. He was using it. And that she didn't see because she doesn't know Scott Adams. She thinks he's just the Dilbert guy.

31:22 Not only that, I think her racial reaction is performative. You know, I'm exhausted. Like, did you really go home and just fall on the couch? It's like, oh, racism. You know, it's like, it's so draining. Like, come on. And if you did, they always think somehow we appear or have to appear. That's like, that's a good point, though. I mean, because that you can hear her co-host. I don't know if her co-host is white or black. She's like, no, is it black? Maybe LGBT member. We're going to hear a little bit later. But yeah, I agree. I mean, I've known you for a little bit here. I don't think you go home and say, oh, honey, with so much racism today. I mean, yeah, you traffic.

32:09 Exactly. So, yeah, performative is a good way of looking at it. I agree. And it's expected. And this goes to show you, like, I'm sure. I'm not going to say, I'm not going to put this on her, but say your white co-workers hear this and you come in the office, right? This will speak on office culture for a minute. It's like, which is kind of like standing around your desk, like waiting to hear your reaction. Like, so did you hear about the Scott Adams thing? I wonder. That's a good idea. You know, I wouldn't put it past some people. In today's climate, oh, man, did you hear about Sharon? Yeah, man, I hope. Did she hear about Scott? Have you talked to her about it yet? Right, right.

32:53 She's aware of what's going on. I put it in the group text, you know, put it on Slack. So exactly. Exactly. So that's the thing that this is why this conversation is important because we don't do this performative. Oh, like, oh, how could you say that? Oh, I'm supposed to be hurt. I'm supposed to be butt hurt right now. So let me, you know what I'm saying, get the acting. No, I don't. Ask me, is it okay to be white? Go ahead and ask me. Is it okay to be white? I don't know. I ain't never been white. You know what I'm saying? So there you go. No, I'm saying. So if I ask, answer that question, I'm saying this. I'm being flippant, but at the same time, if I answer that poll that way, now I'm in the hate group. Yes. Because I don't know what that means. Most people to dodge that question.

33:39 I don't know what that means. You know, what is it? What are you saying? Like, is it okay, like being white? I wouldn't know. I never had the experience. Or is it okay to me if you're white? Which I don't know. I don't care. You know what I'm saying? Like, to be honest with you, you know, this is a stupid. It was a stupid poll. I mean, the whole idea of it is just lame. All right. So, dealer choice, you can jump to 3C or you can go or jump to four. It's your choice. No, let's do 3C. This is more local, more of the local stuff. Yes, more local. Yeah, yeah, more local stuff, please. Yeah, it's remarkable that someone as smart as him would take some low-hanging fruit in that manner, right?

34:25 It's even more disturbing that even make those comments on the back end of. about white people needing to stay away from black people because certainly that's not true either. I think what you have is kind of like this series of unfortunate events that have taken place. But really, if someone's kind of making these comments, there lies some truth internally within themselves that they believe the things that they're saying. And he also, I think they also said that he's, you know, he spent a lot of time helping black people. Sir, we did not need your help in that way. And whatever you're serving now, I hope you have a lot of time to sit down and really think about it. But I also think that once you're sort of canceled, you know, people with that word, you know, do you think about it and say, you know what, what I said was really short-sighted and ignorant, or do you get more sort of, you know, do you double down on how you feel?

35:12 Because now you feel isolated and empowered because you know other people feel the same way. Listen, the redemption tour, we'll give it about three months. Okay. And then the redemption tour will start and then he'll start meeting with all of the leaders that he thinks are important in the community. Remember, right, to try to get back in everyone's good graces. I didn't like Dilbert anyway. All right. So something just dawned on me. The most interesting thing that came out of all this that I remember, I'm not sure if he said it on his own thing or if it was on Hotep. It was Hope Tep. That he had, and he had never mentioned this as far as know that he had really reached out to Black Lives Matter and he had said, hey, I really want to do something, want to help you.

35:53 And that he'd come to the conclusion there was a huge scam. That was really interesting. Because I don't know if you heard that. Where was the heads up, Scott? Yeah, right. What's the cartoon on that one? Exactly. Because save people a lot of time, a lot of money with holding that information. Good point. Good point. Which we have to remember: Scott Adams is, or was, I don't know what his political affiliation now is, was a liberal. Yes, by his own admission. Yes. So it's like, oh, now I can go join the blacks. That's the wokest thing I can do is go join, not support the blacks. No, no, no, no, no. I'm going to embed with them and accept their culture as my own.

36:37 It's just that it's like it's a jacket you could wear. You know, just like, just to put it on, like, oh, let me see. Let me get a 30-day test trial. If I don't like it on day 29, I'll box it up and send it right back. You know, rent the runway. Right. So that's the thing. But with these people, let me be honest with you, as I always am. The Boule class is scared if black people, white people don't want to be around them. They're like, no, no, no. Don't say that, Scott. You know, what if white people actually get away from us?

37:16 What will we do? You know, because a lot of their lives is-I don't even know. I'm sure he's hearing this. I don't even know if he knows what the Boule is. I'll make it easy for him. Scott Adams, any black person you know personally is Boule. It's probably, I can't say is. It's probably Boulet because I hate to say, but it's this performative thing that the Boulet have to do that they have to be extra upset. And like I said, their whole existence is certified by whiteness. Look at my degree on my wall. They're saying, look at the neighborhood I live in.

38:02 Look at my friends and look at this kind of thing. So they could actually be triggered by this because it's not necessary that white people are going to have white flight, which most of these people talking live in white neighborhoods. Let's just be honest, predominantly white. Oh, sure. Right. So it's not like they're going to leave your neighborhood. What's going to happen is, hey, did you get your invite to Brad's wedding? How did he get it? It must be lost in the web. Me, that's how you get away from black people because it's a lot of white people, I'm alleging. I'm assuming, not alleged, I'm assuming, that feel obligated, like, oh, we got to invite the only black person to office to our wedding.

38:46 You know what I'm saying? Because it'll be off if we don't. So that's how this thing materialized and manifests itself: is that they don't get those invites anymore. Right, right, right. Yeah. So that's my take on it. But I give it to Scott Adams. He's amassed enough money where he can say what he wants to say. And I have this Vlad clip from several years ago, DJ Vlad, more specific. And he's talking about FU money. What is fuck you money, according to Scott Adams? Well, this concept comes from the regular workplace, you know, from I think finance people came up with it first. And the idea is that. is that once you have enough money that you don't need a boss, nobody can tell you what to do.

39:30 You know, the public can't stop buying your product and hurt you because you have enough money already. Your boss can't fire you because you don't need him. So you're not really free until you can say fuck you to all your customers and your boss. Okay. Now, I don't say that to my customers because I'm just appreciative every day that they care about anything I do. But I can. I can. And if anybody follows me on Twitter, they know I do on a regular basis about 25 times a day. There's somebody who just deserves to be given that treatment. Yeah. I disagree a little bit because I don't think it's an amount of money.

40:10 I think it's also a mindset. I think I have FU money. I tell people to F off if necessary. But that's not because I have enough. It's because I have enough diversified income. I can easily tell one person to go away. I don't need you. I've sent money back to people. People like, I can't believe I donated. Oh, what's your PayPal, man? I'm going to send it right back to you right now. I have. That sounds like something I would do. Yeah, of course. Go ahead. And the thing is, we all aspire to have F you money. And it's not millions of dollars. See, this is the thing. And I gave this

40:53 where it kind of takes a long time of the show because I had to think about the clips once I think about it. I mean, once I clip it. And to be honest, this is the problem with the middle class, according to the elite. Once you get your mortgage paid for and you have a pension, you know what I'm saying? And your car is paid for, and I don't really need to interact with outside society anymore. That's also FU money. FU money. That's FU money. Absolutely. That's what scares them about the middle class because once you achieve that, and that's where I'm aspiring to be, so I can be an old grumpy man. You know what I'm saying? And he yells at the kids, get off my lawn. Your kids get off my lawn. You know what I'm saying?

41:36 That kind of thing. Or that uncle that has no filter. That's what we all secretly, secretly. We all aspire to have that in one way or another. And I'll be a hater if I said, you know, Scott Adams shouldn't exercise his right. But when you exercise it right, you have to be critiqued if, you know, if there's some, if pushback is necessary. But it's a good point because it has indeed become this concept of FU money. That means you got so much. By the way, that all depends on how much you spend. I mean, I've had more than FU money. I spent it all. And it was great. I had a good time doing it.

42:14 But yeah, you're right. If your mortgage is paid off and you own your car and you have some set of money that will pay for your taxes, your property taxes and inflation doesn't go too high, which of course is what's happening, or the government doesn't steal your pension or your retirement. Yeah, and I think a lot of people, I think that's almost uniquely American to be like that. It's like, I got the nice clothes that I want. I could wear the same sailing outfit every day if I want. And I can afford a reasonably priced drink and I can have friends over.

42:54 That's kind of that. Yeah. I would say the middle class, or at least what I grew up with, the middle class American dreams, like, hey, he's retired. Oh, cool, man. Congratulations. I'm doing my thing. I can play some golf. That's FU money. Now, that is harder to obtain now for a number of reasons. But yeah, it's not the amount. It's how you got yourself set up. And the paradox is it's harder to obtain now, but more people have the F you mentality. This is why people are not working. Yes. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm making it somehow. I don't know. You know, I ate today. I had shelter on my head. I'm not going to work in that job. You know what I'm saying? To be told, you know, for X amount of dollars. No, I'll just F you.

43:38 You know what I'm saying? I'll just float along life. Yeah, you're right. That's the crazy thing. Like the actual people that can say it is shrinking, but the attitude is spreading like a virus. Good point. And it's, you know, I hear more and more like, work doesn't define me. Okay. You know, then you should be a barista. Go ahead or whatever, whatever it is. You're right. You're right. And there's more like, what is the term? Not quiet quitting, but like minimal work Monday and that kind of stuff. Right. The Great Recession. I mean, all of that was, I was given an offer that I had to refuse in a way.

44:19 way, I had to say F you because it's you actually said F you. You said F you without that net. You said, No, I'm an American, man. I'm not going to be controlled by you. It's too many opportunities out here. That's the thing about it. And if you have belief in yourself, and I'll go back to last show, security comes within. So it's like, okay, I'll secure myself. So this is where we're at. And that's why I found the show to be fascinating because it's a crossroads of a lot of different topics. But let's go ahead and get to clip number five. But you didn't necessarily have a boss for a long time, though.

45:02 I mean, you were, I mean, you worked with this company, but you're creating your own product and the product is rolling along. Yeah, I use boss loosely to mean anybody who can control your fate. But yeah, whether it's your specific boss or just people who control you. Right. Now, when you talk about fuck you money, are you really talking about I no longer have to work for the rest of my life and I can still maintain the kind of lifestyle that I want? Yeah, I mean, it's sort of a loose, loosely defined thing that's going to be different for everybody. But everybody has in their mind: if I made this much money, I would never work again. Yeah, until you get used to a certain kind of lifestyle and you realize that's not going to work anymore. So I made that much money and then said, I'm free.

45:47 I'll never need more money or anything. I'm at four times that now. Still don't feel any closer to quitting because the work has its own benefits. And like you said, you reach a certain lifestyle and you're helping a number of people around you, which is more rewarding actually than, you know, I'm not very materialistic beyond my house. Which is pretty big. Yeah. And he shows his indoor tennis court, I believe. Yeah, so I mean, Scott is going to be all right. I mean, let's not work. The thing he has that I'm kind of jealous of,

46:25 all his floors are heated. Oh, that's nice. Yeah, I had that in Amsterdam, heated marble, but not everywhere, not the whole house. His whole house has heated floors. That's nice. That is nice. That's real nice. I would have a bowling alley, though, instead of a kid. Oh, there you go. Yeah, that would be something I have. But if you want to have F you money, I'm going to let you in a little tip. Control your debt. Yeah. A lot of us can't say F you because you have two car payments. I'm just saying you have so many obligations that you have to stay in a situation even though you know it's not best for you.

47:06 And we saw this with Me Too, all these other things. You get to a certain level. Somebody gives you an offer that you should refuse, but you can't because so much is tied to your identity as your occupation as your identity. So I'll wrap that up. Let's just go ahead and get to talking about some disinformation, misinformation, and malinformation. Now, there are three different types of content as identified by First Draft. That is an organization fighting to bring you truth on what you read and watch. Disinformation, misinformation, and malinformation. Collectively, these three groups are known as information disorder.

47:47 Let's start with the first. Disinformation is intentionally false. It's designed to cause harm. That's often backed by motivations to make money, to have political influence, or cause trouble just for the sake of it. The second, misinformation. That's also false content, but the person sharing it doesn't realize it's false or misleading. This is driven by socio-psychological factors. These people want to feel connected to their tribe, whether that's the same political party, activists for climate change, or those that belong to a certain religion, race, or ethnic group. Finally, malinformation. This is genuine information shared with the intent to cause harm.

48:27 An example is when Russian hackers hack the Democratic National Committee in Hillary Clinton's campaigns and emails, they leak certain details just to damage reputations. I love that. That's actually misinformation in itself because, of course, we know it wasn't, it was an inside job. It wasn't the Russians. That's hilarious. So, malinformation. Yeah. I think this is okay to be white meme is malinformation because of the definition. It's genuine information shared with the intent to cause harm. Yeah. Who would everybody would? Well, according to the poll, 80% of the people or whatever said it's okay to be white.

49:11 You know, that's the thing. Now, my question to you, the reason why I played this clip. clip from Show 80 is that what do you think if you had to classify Scott's Adam, Scott Scott's actions, which one do you think it would be? Because I'm not sure just yet. And as we've discussed here, we don't know what his intent was, but if you had, which one would you file this under? Well, I can only file it under manipulation. Yes, I mean, that's what he does. He's manipulating it for, he knows. I mean, okay, let me see if I can classify it. Mal. Let me go. Okay. Okay. Let me go through them right quick.

49:51 It's disinformation is you know it's wrong and you know it's you know you know it's wrong and you share it. Right. Misinformation is you were unaware that it's wrong and you share it. Right. And then malinformation is it's true. You know, I'm going to give you an example of malinformation from my standpoint. And this goes into this story. The 1550 thing. Right. You know, 50% of murders is caused by 1513. Excuse me. 50-13. Right. That's it. 50% of the murders is caused by 13% of the population.

50:31 Right. That is true. But the way it's being used is say, oh, yeah, 13% of the population is murderous. Right. I mean, it just doesn't fit into any one of those categories for me personally because I know that I couldn't either. I wanted to see. I just wanted to run that by you. It's manipulation. That's what it is. He's manipulating it to make a point. And, you know, the point of freedom of speech, because I think I heard him, we'll get to that, I'm sure. Where he said, you know, this is what it costs me to have freedom of speech, to be able to draw what I want, say what I want, and be who I want. Yeah, I mean, he paid a much bigger financial price, but than I did, because I, 15 years ago, I just said, I'm checking out.

51:16 You know, I'm just going to do my own thing, do it with Dvorak. You know, I had to reduce my costs a lot, but I've had my complete freedom of speech since that day. And it's, you know, just another way of going about it, I guess. Yes. So, so now we got to get into it's okay to be white because this thing has been floating around for five years. Were you aware of this? I wasn't aware of this whole it's okay to be white. Yes, I am aware of it because they popped up in Austin, you know, other places, I would say on

51:55 signs. And the minute you see that this started a couple years ago, actually, I think. And it was immediately labeled as racist white nationalists who were saying this, but no, it was the beginning of BLM. Let me just see if I can tell you how far back that goes. Why you look that up? So, this is kind of like the all lives matter kind of thing, right? And whoever comes up with these taglines or memes or whatever you want to call them, they're ingenious and function. 2020 because 2020, May 2020, I think is the first time we had a

52:40 it was, and yeah, it was Van Jones, I think, was moaning about it. You know, so it goes back further because I got clips. These next clips are like four or five years old. So, I'm just going to give you so like make America great again. White, all lives matter. Yeah. When Kaye did white lives matter, it's okay to be white. If you respond back to that, you're racist. How can you? Yeah. No, but how can you? No, whoever created it, you say, Oh, I'm not, I'm not with MAGA. You're like, Oh, you don't want to make America great again? Right. You know what I'm saying? Oh, you don't think you don't think being white is okay?

53:20 It's brilliant. You don't think all lives matter? Yeah. It's like you just got to stay away from it because you're never going to be right. It's rubber and glue, man. It's rubber and glue. So, so let's go ahead. This is another local report. When neighbors get upset overseeing the it's okay to be white flyer. Flyer that's been making the rounds in one Beaverton neighborhood has some left wondering why. Our Cole Miller looked into this. He joins us live from the Sexton Mountain neighborhood with more Cole. Well, Jeff Jennifer, good evening. I'm told those flyers have been showing up on streetlights and they read, It's okay to be white. One neighbor here telling me that this part of town is a melting pot and she just wants everybody to feel safe.

54:03 And on a lamppost there, it was just right smacking my eyeline. Like somebody had put it there intentionally, so I instantly ripped it down. Mary Elizabeth Summer couldn't believe it. This flyer found just down the street from her front door. She says it made her so upset, she took it home and then ran it through the shredder. White lady, I'm guessing. Yes. Yes. And this is let's go ahead. Let's go ahead and jump into the second part, and then we'll talk about on this other side. This is her being upset more. Others around Beaverton, Sexton Mountain spotting them too. My neighbor, Naomi, she also came across one today and sent me a picture of it.

54:47 That flyer, it seems, is not unique to these streets. Far from it. The Sacramento B just earlier this month reports identical ones popping up around American River College. And in Florida, the Anti-Defamation League says a target employee placed this card with that same message in a box of diapers there. What started as a prank on the online forum 4cho is now reported as being associated with white nationalism. I am married to a half-black woman, and this neighborhood is very cultural. That's great. I just love that. Here's this woman. I am married to a half-black woman. And this neighborhood is very culturally diverse.

55:30 We have Indians, we have Jewish people, we have, you know, every color you can imagine. I love it where, just as a separate point, we have Indians, we have Jewish people. You can't say Jews. Notice she doesn't do that. And this is the neighborhood is very culturally diverse. We have Indians, we have Jewish people, we have, you know, every color you can imagine. And if it were me and I was coming up the street of my neighborhood and I saw that, I would not feel safe. And I don't want any of my neighbors to not feel safe. Summer says there's no place for any of that here and wants those neighbors to know they're more than welcome.

56:12 Even if you see these signs, that is not how we feel. And that is not how that is not Sexton Mountain. It's so amazing. You see those signs? Oh, yeah. It's so amazing. That's not how we feel. Go ahead, go to my phone. Yeah, no, but it's okay to be Indian. It's okay to be Jewish people. It's okay to be any color. Color people, as you rightly pointed out, but it's okay to be white. And that, and that is, I know that Dvorak and I laughed about this stuff on the show. By the way, no one gave up their donations or came at us with axes or anything like that. And she's like, come on. This is performative. But unfortunately, this white lady really feels bad about this.

56:57 It's okay to be white. Does she? I think. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's oh, she really, she feels that this is a hateful thing to say. Because you can. I'm not buying it. I'm calling bullcrap. Now, the context is this. It's she like I remember, I think as a kid, it's okay to be gay. I'm glad to be gay. I think it was that. Sing if you're glad to be gay. Was a hit song for a while. Sing if you're glad to be gay. Sing if you're happy that way. And it was okay to be gay. It's okay to be white. But she hears, it's okay to be white. She just hears it differently.

57:41 I think that's what she's hearing, and that's programmed into her. Maybe from her half-black wife. I don't know. But here's the thing: is, and this is why it's hard for me to separate, because the same way I said the news, like it was being performative, when you see that sign, I think it's a good amount of people. It's like, this is what it expected of me. You know, I have to be torn up. I have to go get that sign and not throw it in the trash. Oh, no, Lord. I have to take it back to the house and shred it, you know, to show how woke I am. Yes, that's the performative part. I guarantee you, Mo.

58:26 I guarantee you. She felt horrified by that sign. The performative part, I had to go shred it and all that. I guarantee the amount of psychological operations that has been performed on American citizens, I 100, I'm not going to say it, five by five, I believe she feels that is a hateful sign. Everything else she did about it was performed, but in her core being, she believes that is a hateful thing to say. I believe I believe. believe your take as well. But I'm saying to the degree that people take it to is where it becomes performative.

59:12 Okay. I'm going to give you an example. That's just like, I hate litterers. I think that's one of the dumbest things ever that you just chunk of soda, you know what I'm saying, a can or cup out the window. But I'm not pulling over and going to get the cup the guy in front of me threw out. You see what I'm saying? Oh, stop, stop, stop. Here's a white lady experience. My grandmother, Withy, she was like Marilyn Monroe, man. She was badass, drove convertibles, had five ex-husbands. If she was behind a car at a stoplight and someone threw some trash out the window, she'd get out of her car, she'd pick it up, she'd knock on the window and said, I just picked up your trash.

59:54 So that's what I'm going to talk about. But I'm just saying for myself, I detest litterers, but I'm not, I'm saying she could detest what she thinks is being represented towards that. But it's the performative parts in coming. I took action and you go back to the office and like, look, I, you know what I'm saying? You have the little shavings and a Ziploc bag. It's like, see, you know what I'm saying? This is what anti-racism looks like. I agree. I'm just saying I grew up in middle, white middle America, at least until age, you know, seven, but you know, there was back and forth. This was, it was all performative. And the middle class, right?

1:00:36 Middle class white people would be like, hey, man, keep America clean and do this. And it was very like, you know, you've got to do these certain things. You've got to be like this. It's hard to explain, but it's the other side. You know, remember, it's the other side of how black middle class Americans would be. Oh, oh, the kids got to dress up nice. We're going to go visit those people, whatever. You know, it's like, it's all performative, but it's deep. It's very at its core, I think it's deeply ingrained in us. I agree with you. I agree with you. And I'll add to your point that the reason for the performance is deeply embedded. Yes. The need, that need to perform. You know, that

1:01:21 I just want to go over to my friend's house with some clothes, regular clothes on. But that need, you know, to be accepted. And the reason why I'm stressing this point is this is the cost that it's going to cost Scott Adams. I'm letting him know now what you wanted to happen to black people where you don't invite them to weddings and functions and stuff like that. That Uno reverse card is going to be played on you because it's like, you know, we can't have Scott at the wedding. What he just went through. You know what I'm saying? And that's where, that's where the system really kicks in. You know what I'm saying? Hey, he's persona non-grata. They have a word for it. So it's no, we can't have you have to stay away from Scott Adams.

1:02:05 He's a hate group. You know what I'm saying? This thing that he projected out is going to fall upon him. And it's bigger than money, bro. It's big. This system is bigger than money. Now, how about this meta? This meta part of it. Maybe he doesn't give a shit. Maybe he doesn't care. So that kind of makes him actually, in a way, a racist. Well, he shouldn't care because he has F you money. But I'm just saying the social cost. You know what I'm saying? The social cost to being the old, grumpy old man is nobody invites you to the cookout in the neighborhood. It's like you can't even, you can't invite, you know what I'm saying, whatever, whoever, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's an a-hole.

1:02:48 Well, little, little, little secret. I don't think Scott Adams actually leaves his house that much at all. Well, it works for him. That works well for him. So I don't think that's going to be much of a problem. It may not change his life very much. Okay. So I'm just saying that to anybody that gets canceled with money, people are like, how bad can it be? Yeah, it can be bad. Yeah, it can be bad. It could be very bad. You get the worst tables. You get set by the bathroom when you go to restaurants. If you can get on the, you know, get a reservation. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good point. We're all booked up, Scott. I'm sorry. You know, it's just been busy lately. Well, so now. Wait, I have to say one more thing. I can't tell you who told me,

1:03:33 but it was someone who knows him personally. And he said, and I don't know. And I said, I call bull crap on it right away. It was, oh man, ever since I did that, life's been great. And I'm getting laid like crazy. Direct quote. I'm calling. I believe it. I'm calling bull crap on him. Bruh, like, I'm telling you, racism has a built-in fan base. Okay. I'm not saying it's artistic. ardent. It's not, may not be that large. I'm talking about people that look for new people to cling to. It's like, oh, this is our hero. Somebody else makes the statement.

1:04:11 Oh, that's our hero. Like, Scott. What's the guy name? Scott, what was the name? Potate, Dave Potene, whatever his name is, over at the Sports Gambling Outfit. I don't know. I don't know. Anyway, he went online and said, what's the other? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know who you're talking about. It was him and the guy from MSNBC, the old guy that's kind of like off his rocket right now. Keep the name of the Keith Overman. With this whole recent thing, college basketball, they said the lady was a, was it, what was it? Classist piece of about it or pointing to her ring. Yeah, she was pointing to the ring, taunting, it was a black girl taunting a white girl.

1:04:56 And then they said that the white girl had done it earlier in an earlier game to another player or team or something. But yeah, my whole point is that with Dave and Keith Overman, who is far left as you probably can get, when you do something that can be perceived as racist, there's an instant fan base there. Got it. So, and I'm with you. And with this case, it doesn't have to be a person. It could be a poll. So we have to go to Rasmundsen, the actual creators of the poll. And I have a clip from them speaking on the actual numbers. Do you agree or disagree with this statement? It's okay to be white.

1:05:38 Mind-blowingly, or perhaps not, the vast majority of American adults agree. 72% and 58% strongly agree. Only 12% disagree, and only 6% of those strongly. Now, 17% of Americans are not sure. And that's a pretty big number for a question like this, which should be a simple question to answer. To me, that is the standout number. People berated or guilted so much that they won't anonymously submit a response to an IVR call or an online survey. Now, just for those wondering, if we took out the not sures, then 86% of Americans agree with that statement.

1:06:16 A whopping 70% strongly. We just proved that the vast majority of Americans, 88%, either agree with or refuse to answer whether they agree with a statement that the Southern Poverty Law Center has literally labeled hate speech. Don't you think that's a big deal? Wow. Where'd you dig this up? That's great. Actually, from their website. He went on like a whole hour. Just give people the name of the video and go find on YouTube. Rasmussen's poll, it's okay to be white. And there's a second part to this is about is who can be racist, which we'll may touch on another show at another time. But I'm not ducking away from that either. But we won't focus on it, focus on if it's okay to be white or not.

1:06:59 But yeah, he goes and breaks down the numbers. And as you can see, Scott Adams was wrong. Yeah, right? Oh, my goodness. But here's, I mean, it's crazy that the Southern Poverty Law Center is now the gold standard of what is hate speech and whatever. Hate. Hate, basically hate. Yes. And they're the biggest hate group I know. And they used to do so much, or allegedly used to do so much good work. You got to question it now. So as he said, you might have asked white people, they don't know if it's okay or not. So the best thing is, I don't know. And you could have black people like, is this a trick question? Who is this calling my phone? You know what I'm saying?

1:07:40 I don't know. And now you have these numbers, you know, that could be, you got to factor, you only can factor in the yeses and no's. But it's convenient to add, I don't know, to buff your number up. Of course, of course. You know, it's only this amount to say it's okay to be white. So I just wanted to break that down. But as we can see, hate can be weaponized from both sides. You need this kind of stuff fuels both medias. And I have two examples I want to go look at here. And one of them is the Reed report with Joy Ann Reed. Woo! Are you surprised? Yeah, you used to say Ados was a hate group.

1:08:26 Yeah. So, I mean, I'm putting you in the same bag as Scott Adams. Interesting. Yeah, it's very interesting. But I want you to hear this wind up before the pitch. But we begin tonight with the supersized panic of the American right. Post-Obama backlash may have escalated the panic more than 10 years ago. But then Donald Trump poured the freak out with gasoline. It was Trump who unveiled the racist. racism and misogyny that was always there, but threw it wide open, normalized the depths of the country's prejudice, even made it fashionable for conservatives. Their vision of America crystallized online within our government, too. The post-Trump age of open fascism.

1:09:10 We saw open demonstrations of hate from white nationalists using tiki torches to light up Charlottesville to the attempted Confederate takeover of the Capitol. Once the Pandora's box of bigotry is open, things get out of control quickly and in a horrifying way. People don't even feel bad about their anti-blackness these days. They are grossly actually kind of proud of it. Case in point, Dilbert. Wow, there's a lot in there, like the Confederate takeover of the Capitol. Yeah, that's what those black people and Asian people were doing. That's Confederates, man. You see that wind up, though? Before she even gets to Scott Adams, she put the Trump thing on him and

1:09:52 everything on him saying this. And look, Scott Adams, if he was being truthful, thank you for being honest. The most thing, best thing you could do is be honest with a person, and I'll shake your hand. You won't want us around. You don't want to be around us. Great. Hell, that's not far off from how I feel, you know, because, like I said, if you want to go to Blacktown, you want to go to White Town, you want to go to Asian Town, you want to go to, you know, wherever these communities, you know, people create their own communities. That's great. That's awesome. You know, we don't need the thing with diversity is it wants to flatten everything into this consumer culture. No, I'm a big supporter of we need to have these enclaves of culture.

1:10:37 And when we had it, it made America great, but it can't be sanctioned by the state to be separated. And you can't feel forced either. So I'm right there in the middle. You know, if people want to be around each other, great. But if somebody wants to be around me, they shouldn't be forced. That's that in a nutshell. So that's her wind up. You want to hear more when she gets to carry? I can't wait. Give me some joy reading. Let's go. Dilbert, the widely syndicated comic strip about office culture that appeared in 2,000 newspapers around the world. You may be familiar with the comic, but maybe not its creator, Scott Adams. Frankly, I had no idea who the guy was.

1:11:18 Well, until he went on a racist rant on YouTube last Wednesday. I think it makes no sense whatsoever as a white citizen of America to try to help black citizens anymore. So I'm going to back off from being helpful to black America because it doesn't seem like it pays off. If nearly half of all blacks are not okay with white people, according to this poll, not according to me, according to this poll, that's a hate group. That's a hate group. And I don't want to have anything to do with them. No, how will black folk ever survive without you, whoever you are? Okay, there is a lot to unpack there. She's so annoying.

1:12:02 Thank you. Thank you for saying that because that's why I left that last part in there. And I really didn't want to hear from her other than that wind up that Scott Adams is the representation of whatever when he was just on your team not too long ago. That's the thing about this team thing is not working out because you have to be a complete 100% loyalist. You can't have any diversity in thought. Correct. But yeah, she is annoying. I think she's trying to be Tucker Carlson or the anti-Tucker Carlson or something. But her delivery has changed. I mean, but also whoever you are, like, she knows exactly who he is.

1:12:45 Yeah. Six months ago, she would have been dying to eat dinner with him. Let's just keep it a buck here. I mean, we need to stop playing. Like, come on. Come on. So, no. So, just to bring some humor into it, I think that SNL had a good little skit where they interview, actually interviewed Dilbert. Yeah. Didn't they have the Dilbert doll, like the big doll on the weekend update? Right. He was actually like a mascot type character. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Let's go ahead. Newspapers around the country are dropping beloved comic strip Dilbert after its creator, Scott Adams, went on a racist rant last week, advocating for white people to get the hell away from black people.

1:13:32 By the way, you know, the reason why they say in all television, racist rant, is they love alliteration. Anytime you can do the same starting letter, you know, racist rant, you know, beautiful boot camp. Bill Back Better. Bill, thank you. I'm advocating for white people to get the hell away from black people off the record is going to point. Here to comment. That's what the car says. Here's comment is Dilbert. Hey, Michael. Hi, Dilbert. So had you ever seen this side of Scott Adams before?

1:14:14 Michael, I think I can speak for myself and the entire all-white staff at the Dilbert offices when I say this was a total shock. I mean, most cartoonists are weird, but a racist weird, let's just say I didn't see that memo. Michael Che is kind of, he's always slipping in stuff like that. Always. Which I don't know. How do you feel about that? This particular one, it's true. Look, look at the Don Lemon. I mean, I think that was kind of because they have these clips of Don Lemon saying the exact same thing Scott Adams is saying.

1:14:52 So these media types, the intellectuals, the first chance they get, it's, and it's. By the way, wait, wait, wait. Did Don Lemon say, yes, it's true? Well, what I'm referring to is this. Black people off the record has got a point. Off the record is going to point. Yeah. That part. Yeah. Yeah. That's the point. Yeah. I just want that kind of lends to what Don Lemon was saying. Like, pull up your pants. You know, this is where our community is where it is. And sounded a lot like what Scott Adams did. And I have these clips. I didn't clip it, but just to give people a trigger warning, I have some Larry Elder coming up.

1:15:33 Good. But yeah, like he played the Larry. He played the Don Lemon clips of him saying basically the same thing. And I think it's a mindset. You know, Don Lemon and Scott Adams have more in common than me and Don Lemon. Right. Let's just be honest. I got you. I got you. Yeah. So that's the point I'm trying to make there. But let's go ahead and get to this second part of this pretty good SML clip. No, I knew he was bad. He made me go into the office every single day during COVID, and he knows I'm autoimmune. You're autoimmune? Do I look like somebody who's not autoimmune? Yeah, I'm a real athlete. My hair is skinned, Michael.

1:16:13 Your hair is skinned. Yes. I cannot stress this enough. My hair is entirely skinned, and it has been the great tragedy of my life. I'm very sorry. No, I'm sorry, Michael, for racism. Maybe I was just blind to it. I mean, my glasses are literally opaque white. But to me, he was just Scott, the funny guy, the Trump-supporting cartoonist who did magic in his spare time. Had a great Kevin Hart impression. Well, that sounds like a racist to me. Well, turns out he was a racist. And I was prized creation. I mean, what does that make me? I wanted answers. So I took a God forbid personal day

1:16:52 and really started to dig in on the concept of what is work, right? Reading Karl Marx, Stokely Carmichael, lots of the black radicals. And I realized something. Even mundane work serves to uphold a capitalist system built to maintain a racial hierarchy. But that's all about to change. Race war is coming. You ready, Michael? What? Are you ready? Because Dilbert's ready. I woke up this morning ready to take the streets and paint the city with the blood of the white man. That's pretty intense, man. I think they kind of nailed it.

1:17:34 Yeah, I was pretty good. And eerily, when I saw this image of Dilwood or this rendition of Dilbert, is it intentional that he looks like the falling down guy? Remember the movie Falling Down? Yeah. The guy just snapped? Yeah. He just started going crazy. When I saw him, he was Michael Douglas, I think. He had the sleeves rolled up and the glasses. Is that intention in the necktie with the short-sleeved shirt? You know, that kind of thing. Like, I wonder if that's which one imitating the other one. I was going to say, I don't know who's been around longer, but it is clearly the same character, the one who's going to snap.

1:18:14 And like Dilbert just did. Exactly. Blood drove the white man. Yeah. And if one little fact toy is in there, you see, I was reading Michael Stoke, Carl Michael, excuse me. And Karl Marx, Black Revolutionaries. Well, we talked about Karl Marx potentially being black. Black, yeah. Because he was called the Moore. And when you look at the picture, he could be, you know, passing. So I'm just like, they slipped that in there. That's pretty much it. It's funny because people perceive it not to be true. That's what made it funny, but it could actually be true. So, I thought that was a pretty good thing. So, that's something that you and I would get.

1:18:55 You know, it's like if you could have thrown in the FBI guy, you know, what's his name? Right, Hoover. Yeah, Hoover. Exactly. Exactly. Could have thrown that in. But no one would have gotten that joke. Only us. Right. So that was a pretty good setup. But yeah, let's go ahead and move on. Like I promised, we got some Larry Elders, and he doesn't disappoint only as he couldn't. Okay. Yesterday, we played the Dilbert comic strip creator Scott Adams reacting to a poll by Rasmussen saying at this point, because blacks have become so anti-white, he wants nothing to do with black people who think that way.

1:19:37 Now, he mischaracterized the poll. Most blacks, in fact, 53%, say it's okay to be white. 26% said it's not. 21% said they don't know. So in fact, a quarter of black people disagreed that it is okay to be white. Not a majority of blacks, as Adam said. But still, Adam makes a valid point. As of today, I'm going to re-identify as white because I don't want to be a member of a hate group. I'd accidentally joined a hate group. So if nearly half of all blacks are not okay with white people, according to this poll, not according to me, according to this poll, that's a hate group.

1:20:18 That's a hate group. And I don't want to have anything to do with them. And I would say, you know, based on the current way things are going, the best advice I would give to white people is to get the hell away from black people. Just get the away. Wherever you have to go, just get away. Because there's no fixing this. This can't be fixed. And not too surprisingly, the fifth hit the Shan. Hundreds of newspapers have now canceled his strip. We have to, for context, I don't think we explained that earlier for people who don't know. Scott, when it was like, I identify as, I identify as a woman, I identify as this, and he then is like, oh, I identify as black.

1:21:03 That was, you know, ha ha, okay. And he, but he kept that up for a couple of years. Like, I identify as black. That's, you know, so he's adding that in there. Like, you know, I was black. I identified as black. And now I don't want to be part of the hate group. Which is provocative because it does bring up the question how you could be trans everything else except racial, which I'm sure Larry Elders, if it's anyway, no, I'm going to say it, but I digress. But this is what makes it hard on Larry. Like, poor Larry. He's the king of malinformation. 90%, maybe even the 99% of the stuff he says is true, but it's the way he uses it.

1:21:48 You know, how can you say, yeah, he was kind of right? You know, after you say he misrepresented the poll, and then you sandwiched that in between what he actually said. Like, I don't care where you have to go. You know what I'm saying? Larry's like, that's what I've been saying. You know, where does this actually air? Where does this Larry Elder stuff air? Where'd you get that? On YouTube, man. You got a. Oh, he's got a whole YouTube thing going on. Yeah. So, I mean, that's where I get it from. I'm sure he has a podcast and maybe even a radio show. Well, he's got the radio show. I want to, is it a simple castle radio show? Is he doing this on YouTube alone? I'm not sure. I can't verify that, but I know for sure he puts these clips on YouTube, which, like I said, 90% of the stuff he says is factual, but it's the weaponization of it.

1:22:35 Yeah, you know, that's what makes him so successful. I mean, he's controversial. Correct. Which is no problem with it. But then that's why you run into the issue you have when you try to speak to black people and bring the facts, which, like I said, a lot of stuff he says is true. But it's the weaponization of not to be redundant. But now we're going to go and watch him deflect. And that's the only thing he said about Scott in the whole clip. Then he goes, he plays the Don Lemon clips, which I mentioned before. And then he cleans it up with this right here. The always go-to deflection.

1:23:17 Let's go. Let's hear it, Larry. Rather than thank Adams for saying out loud what clearly a lot of people feel, including a lot of black people are saying and feeling, so we could have, you know, a healthy discussion about this growing black anti-white racism, if not hatred. Adam is being talented. Stop right there. He said, instead of thanking him for everything that you just heard. we should be thanking him, Larry. I mean, that's a bold statement there. Thanking him. So, what he's saying is he's saying is true. What? That we're hate group? I mean, which part? That's what I'm saying. Like, which part are you saying is true? That black people in America hate white people. That's what I just understood. For not from that poll, you know what I'm saying?

1:24:02 That's the thing. It's like from the poll is saying it's amazing they could take a piece of information. The reason why I'm harping on this is to just bring home the spell point. They can play you the clip. He explained, he wrote down the whole poll how it was being misrepresented by Scott. And it's true. And they say it's true. Black people are a hate group. I've been trying to tell you. You know what I'm saying? He just got bad information. You should have came to me. I could have gave you some stuff that really proves that they're a hate group. Hotep Larry Ben told you. Exactly. Rather than thank Adams for saying out loud what clearly a lot of people feel, including a lot of black people, are saying and feeling, so we could have, you know, a healthy discussion about this growing black anti-white racism.

1:24:47 It's not hatred. Adam is being hounded, shut down, canceled. And notice the most respected black leader in America says absolutely nothing. I speak, of course, about one Barack Obama. There it is. Here's a man who got elected with a higher percentage of the white vote than John Kerry did four years earlier. Hold on. Does Larry Elders think Barack Obama is black? That's the other thing. It's like, I'm trying to make sure. Motep Ben told you. Oh, my God. He can't put that on our book. No, we ain't putting. No, no, no, no, no.

1:25:28 All right. Here we go. Here's a man who got elected with a higher percentage of the white vote than John Kerry did four years earlier, who walked into the Oval Office the third week of January 2009 with a 70% approval rating. Blah, blah, blah. He did. I love it. I love it. I love it. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. 82% of the vote. Why? Because even people who didn't vote for Obama felt that at the very least, at the minimum, he could bring us together racially. But he did the opposite. He said, among other things, the Cambridge police acted stupidly. No, they did not. He said racism is in America's DNA. That's a lie. The first time Gallup in the 1950s asked Americans if they would vote for a black president, the number was in the 30s.

1:26:11 Now, only a tiny percentage of whites say they would not vote for a black person if they thought he or she was qualified. Yeah, talk about performative, but he's literally, he's a performer. So, you know, I let him slide. And he's funny. I think it's for me, it's funny to hear this. Like, okay, Larry. He's good at what he does. No, don't, don't mistake my critique of him as not saying he's good. No, he's great. It's the fact that, like, it's just that the malinformation thing for me, are you trying to, as I always say, are you speaking to reach or to be right? There you go. When I speak, I try to reach people. You know, that's why I always humanize people. And let's figure, let's learn from this thing and not just come up here. We could have easily done this for four years.

1:26:54 And I could have got up here and just ran it and raved. And you could have ran it and raved. But then that would be the Barack Obama-Bruce Springsteen podcast. So we didn't want to do that. Or every copycat after us. I just have to say it. Like, this is my victory lab right here, folks. I'm telling you that what you're witnessing, you're not going to see it again because me and Adam are not ingrained prior to having the conversation. We were complete and total strangers. I know your public persona, but not to get to this level of conversation. No, it's not. I don't think it's going to be repeated. But yeah, so that's Larry. And it's just like, come on. I mean, come on. So now we have Karen

1:27:41 Karen Hunter. Oh, another fan of the fan favorite of the show. So watch how she walks the line because I think she's a journalist, I believe. And so it's one thing she probably has friends that are friends with Scott or this kind of thing. But then she also has to stay to the performative black reaction. So I want you to just listen to how she weaves her way through this. Now, he's trying to call himself being an ally. Obviously, some people believe that he's not. Do you believe that he's being an ally? I mean, because I see the nuance in his conversation. And when you go beyond just the, you know, the soundbite clips that you can pull out and make them look really crazy.

1:28:27 I see what he's trying, what he thinks he's attempting to do in that space. But I also feel like he's he's very. very bitter as well. And, you know, if you live in a country where you're seeing people progress, like I'm sure in your space, you got a lawsuit. Because I just heard something I hadn't heard before, but she does the same, her, whoever is doing the call and response. You know, this is that call and response thing people talk about. She does the same yes from the guy in the local news report. Yes, yes. Oh, you're right. He was on that in that space. But I also feel like he's very bitter as well.

1:29:08 And you know, if you live in a country where you're seeing people progress, like I'm sure in your space, you got a lawsuit. So your progression looks like oppression to somebody that's used to seeing you in a subservient role. So every place you turn, we got the president was a black man. Now we got a vice president. They just put a black woman on the Supreme Court. Indian, yeah, maybe. But this is what I'm saying, you know, to you and everyone listening, Nicole, that that foments into its jealousy, it's insecurity, it's weakness. But in a mob setting, which we saw with the Capitol, it's deadly.

1:29:53 And I need us all to be vigilant, you know, and you're right. Wow. I mean, for Joy Reed to take it to the Capitol, okay, but for Karen Hunter to do it in this way. And by the way, you see where she started at, though. Oh, yeah. Well, you know, this is very interesting. Well, two things. I want to get to the Capitol. Well, first, the Capital. So yesterday, I'm driving back from Austin and I'm listening to some of the coverage of the indictment of 45. And, you know, because they had nothing. They all, oh, January 6th. It's all that's like a standard thing. Let's just go back to January 6th, go back to the insurrection.

1:30:35 But what I find fascinating is both Larry Elders and Karen Hunter, clearly black Americans, both of them just pretend that Barack Obama and Kamala Harris are black Americans. And that farce, that pisses me off. It does. You have to stick to the script. It's disingenuous. I know, but it's disingenuous. And how come the lady on the phone doesn't say, you know what? They're just not black. It's the skin color. But we're. That's divisive. That's divisive talk you're doing there, Mr.

1:31:12 Kirk. It's insecurity. It's weakness. But in a mob setting, which we saw with the Capitol, it's deadly. And I need us all to be vigilant, you know, and you're right. You're right. I think with this guy's nuance, but all it takes is one, a group, you know, to put this on Reddit. And now they, you know, he's their hero. Whatever he intended, I don't know. You know, I don't know what's in that man's heart, Nicole, but I do know that this kind of language left unchecked is dangerous because I saw it happen in Nazi Germany. So she, by the way, she's 103 years old because she saw it happen in Nazi Germany. She was there, boots on the ground, baby. You're right. Yeah. You know what?

1:31:58 And maybe she's right that we've seen this before, Mr. Walt Disney. We know what you did back there. You know what I'm saying? So if you want to go there, but I bet you won't go there. So wow. Wow. That's no animation. And also, you know, since when was January 6th racial? I mean, if she had said, you know, like, I forget, Joy Reed, you know, said, this is, you know, the Tiki Torches, also farce, but okay. You know, at least that would have gotten a little closer to racism. But January 6th, I don't think that's been seen as racist.

1:32:34 Has it been, did I miss a memo? The media class specifically, the black media class has been tasked with painting this as racist. You know, that was white people. You know, that's that's how I looked at the Capitol. She better get her memos because in case you didn't know it, Karen Hunter, black is out, trans is in. January 6th was clearly transphobic. Thank you. We're done with you to the side. We know we got about 90% of y'all vote, you know what I'm saying, 2024. So, I mean, we're good. We need to push the trans, you know, and

1:33:21 I want you, since you brought up alliterations, Larry Elder need to update his talking points because it's no longer anti-white race. racism, it's reverse racism. And I heard Trump drop that a couple of times in his address. Oh, really? So, I think there's a pivot, yeah, to reverse racism from anti-white racism, which is interesting. I think I think the problematic word out of it, too. Because I would say a couple years ago, if you said that's reverse racism, people say reverse racism is racism. Okay, yeah, of course it is. Racism is racism. That's a good point, but that it's now accepted as a talking point, reverse racism. Interesting. Just listen for it because I heard him say it, and I was like, That's that's a good alliteration.

1:34:05 Got to give it to him. Yep, it is at the same time. It rolls out the tongue better than anti-white racism, reverse racism. It just flows. Um, so that's the that's the wrap on the this is what the happenings of the Scott situation. Uh, I think we need to thank some people now. We sure do the white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro, and the so-called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of the white man. Then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only way that they'll ever do it. Yep, that's Malcolm X.

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1:48:03 You know, a black, stay away from blacks. That's the monolith thing, right? Oh, when you hear people come out, all black people are not. We're not a monolith. I think we need to visit our. revisit the word monolith with a proper definition. This is from I Swear English on YouTube, which I love his definition videos. Great work. So it's monolith. Monolith. Countable noun. Monolithic as an adjective. Monolithically as an adverb, I guess. Okay, a monolith is a, well, the original meaning, it's a single block of stone which stands vertically.

1:48:47 Notice monolith. As to origin, okay, mono, one, and lith from lithos, yeah, meaning a stone in ancient Greek. Yeah. It comes from Latin, monolithus, made of a single block of stone. Okay, and that's the idea of a monolith. But we use this word to describe other things. We can also use a monolith to talk about a very powerful, large organization. Yeah. I think in this case, we're using it a bit critically.

1:49:28 Yeah, we're suggesting that it doesn't want to change. It's not interested in the individuals. So a monolith, a huge organization, yeah, that doesn't really care about the individuals. Okay. There you go. Monolith. So it's just the group is bigger than the individual kind of thing. And I have some proof here, going back to the 1960s, that black people have never been a monolith. But in the description, white and black in itself, those terms are monolithic. Of course. You know, to have it, you know, it's, you know, this is white. This is black.

1:50:12 That's black. It's a good point. Whenever this comes up, is it okay to be white? So, excuse me, we're not a monolith. In fact, Asians are considered white. But they're Asian. See, like, that's the monolith, though. They're the Asian. They have the acronym for them now. Exactly. There is just like, yeah, just like the Latino and the Latinx or Latinx communities. You know, they just lump them all together, which their politics is very diverse. And we're seeing with the voting numbers. Trans, you know what I'm saying? That's a monolith. It's like, you know, everybody, you know, everybody is TikTok teachers.

1:50:55 You know, and the greater monolith is the gay community, you know, the LGBT community, as you pointed out very early on. Not a gay community. It's not a monolith. But when you use these terms, you're implying it in the term itself. When you say black, what is black? What does that mean? I mean, only thing blacks mean is not white. That's the governmental term for it because, what do we call them? Well, we're white. They got to be black. They expanded it to colored people, people of color. That is white. That's the monolith. And then you have everybody else in the group.

1:51:37 And we're just going to lump them all together as people of color, which I found that term to be so disgusting. That's why I say colored people, because it's that mentality that you're saying out of, you know, not individuals. But not to belabor the point, I want to get to this 1960s. I don't know who was doing the recording. I couldn't find much history on it, but this is wealthy, middle-class black people in Los Angeles. And listen how they talk about the southern blacks that are pouring into Los Angeles at the time. You recall in our last meeting, we discussed the problem of integrated housing, and we found out that almost 1700 Negroes are moving into Los Angeles among 1970.

1:52:20 There'll probably be a million Negroes in this city. And I know that people are concerned about this. They may not talk about it very often, but I certainly heard them shudder in church when he said there'd be a million Negroes in Los Angeles. We shuddered because we were saying, in essence, the majority of these people are not like we are. And we felt that we, maybe some of us felt we left the South because we were getting away from this problem. We are a part of this exodus, too. But we are a little maybe embarrassed by the fact that here we're going to have a mass element come in that's going to create a tremendous social problem in the community to which we find a great deal of difficulty in relating to.

1:53:04 Oh, I like it. We forgot that monolith. Negroes. Yeah, another great. monolith. It's always a term. African American. They reinvent this term over and over again to keep it monolithic. But you hear here, they shuddered, shuddered with the idea that a million. Why? Why? Because I don't want people to think they're like me. You know, look at them. This is the bullet mentality, which is the I am different mentality. I traversed, you know, I traversed blackness to reach this pinnacle.

1:53:48 And I'd be damned if I let in LA. Woo! Yeah. I'll be damned if I let black, these commoners come here and besmirch my name. You know, that's that kind of mentality. And this is the 1960s. That was 60 years ago that they were talking like this. But on Front Street, oh, we should overcome. We need to integrate, but not willing to integrate their own color of their own color into their community. Like, you can't come to our community. We shudder when we just think of the thought of that. But I have more. Let's hear another one. Let me ask you a question. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. Do you consider Ados to be a monolith?

1:54:32 Ados is a designation. And that's why it was so important because I am a descendant of American slaves. And the person that identifies with that has the same lineage. You know, politics is different. Solutions is different. You have communists, you have Marxists, you have capitalists, you have anarchists. The political ideas is different. The thing with black, like this, you pointed out yourself. Look how they do with Barack Obama. Black. He's black. What does that even mean? He's not even black. He's brown. And I'm starting to think he's Indonesian.

1:55:13 To be honest with you, when you start looking at the president of Indonesia and you look at Barack Obama and you see where he comes from, I'm just saying, like, we're not going to go there. And the same thing with Kamala Harris. It's you're Jamaican and Indian, but no, you're black. We're going to, this monolith, we have to keep this monolith. And it's out of necessity because we need, this is the one voting block we can count on. Correct. It's all everybody else. All monoliths are political. All of them. Yes. It's called a voting block. I mean, listen to the word. Yeah. Which a monolith is what? A block of stone. It's solid. You know, it's

1:55:57 indistinguishable from its other parts, right? You know, it's, it's, it's, you know, so I just wanted to bring that up. Let's go. Sorry. I don't know why that happened. So let's go ahead and get into the second part of this fascinating clip. Well, I don't want to sound like a do-gooder because I really am not. And I'm somewhat of a snob. But I do think that with these people coming in who are not our intellectual equals, nor are they of our sociological black, they're not to be a handicap to us. They'll find their own level. Now, I do sound like a snob, but I don't mean it this way. But they're used to living a certain way.

1:56:38 And they too might rise up above their origin and might one day be our associates. What? Yes. They could rise up. Is that not the definition of uppity? Yeah, this is, like I said, this is the boolean. I don't know who got that camera in there or if this is like, hey, we're getting together and play some bridge or whatever. You know, bring the camera. And, you know, we're going to talk about why it's a problem with these Negroes coming to Los Angeles. You know, right. We made it here first and we've established ourselves. And this is, we've talked about this before.

1:57:20 This was common in New York, Philadelphia. When black people were migrating out of the South to these places, this is what not only where they met with the racism, you know what I'm saying, from quote-unquote white people or non-black people, because I mean, it was kind of fool who was white at that time. You know, you had the, you know, had the Italians and, you know, the Irish and those kind of things. They hadn't been annexed into whiteness fully just yet. So not only you had to deal with that buffer class, you had to deal with your, you know, the internal buffer class of the Boulet. It's like, oh my God, they're going to think we're like them. The same thing with the lady with the, I am white.

1:58:04 I mean, I was talking about. okay to be white posters. I don't want them to think, I don't want them to think we think like that. Right. It's the same mentality. We're not white like Scott Adams. We're different white. Yo, we're totally different. We don't think it's okay to be white around here. No, no, no, no. You know, just imagine the that's crazy. It blows the mind, you know, to think, you know, you could be, as you said, and I agree with you, manipulated to the point where you're embarrassed by your own identity. That's a fascinating mind screw right there. Let's go ahead and get to the third part of this clip. The whole tone of this meeting is we are setting ourselves up as little puppet Jesuses.

1:58:48 We can't help anyone else until we help ourselves. The Negro has had two professions: his own medicine, dentistry, or law, or psychiatry, and he's had the profession of being a Negro. And many of us have come out here to escape from this second profession of being a Negro. And we're out here a while and we're working in our own field. And then we find out that here, these same problems are falling on the heels of 1,600 Negroes a month that come into Los Angeles. Now, this gives us problems. It's our own view. It's our own identifying with these Negroes that are coming in with their carpet bags that causes us problems.

1:59:29 You carpetbaggers. Nice. Yeah. You hear when I heard it, when I heard this clip, I was like, I knew they thought this way when you read books like our kind of people, one of the best books written on the Boulet. Yeah, but you don't hear Joy Reed playing this clip. This is Joy Reed. Yes. If I was a betting man, when these intellectuals get around each other and they start to sip wine and they'll look and say, we're not like whatever trend is on TikTok or, you know, when they talk about drill rap or whatever else,

2:00:09 it's like, we're not those kind. Wasn't this in a way also kind of like Fresh Prince of Bel Air? Yes. That hinged a lot on this idea. Mentality. And you think about it, Philip Banks, the character, was from, yeah, he was a judge, but his parent was pig farmers from South Carolina. And that's just the point. A lot of these people, I want, don't use the word ran, but left the South, established themselves in this city, kind of got to some kind of point of stasis, you know, with what was ever going on. And we don't want any disruptors. We don't, he called them problems. You hear words like shudder to think.

2:00:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So who are these people? One of the people that I respect a lot, Thomas Sowell, he breaks down and he identifies these people they were running from as the black rednecks. Black rednecks, who are they? These would be blacks who came out of the southern culture and who carried that culture with them north into the urban ghettos and into the ghettos of the south for that matter and who have not moved out of that culture since. Over the years, both blacks and whites have moved away from that culture. But in the poorest and worst of the ghetto areas, there are lots of people who have not.

2:01:34 And these kinds, it's a culture which didn't do whites any good. And it's certainly not doing blacks any good today. And the tragedy is that people regard this culture as somehow the authentic black culture. And therefore, you're not to interfere with it. It's to be allowed to go. And so they're cheering people on. It reminds me of a scene in the Blue Max where this general is encouraging this daredevil pilot to do all kinds of wild stunts, you see, knowing that the guy's going to kill himself if he keeps doing this, and therefore the general will be rid of a political problem. Now, I don't think that the white liberals are doing this deliberately, but I think the net results are the same. They are cheering blacks on and doing things that are absolutely self-destructive. What's the difference between a black redneck and a white redneck? Color.

2:02:20 Once again, the same issue I have with Larry Elders in a different way, but in function. And it's not intentional. The liberals are not doing it intentionally. This is where I kind of can't align with him. The system of white supremacy is very intentional. Yes. The one word government is very intentional in every one of their actions and deeds. It plans too. Let's throw that in there as well. So when he gets to the point where I don't think it's intentional, Mr. Soell, you're, and I say that with the utmost respect because. because

2:03:02 thought leaders, I think he has a lot to offer. But when you say it's unintentional, I don't know if you're unaware or if you just don't want to, you know, if you start going like that, then you get thrown in a radical bucket. You know, when you start talking about white supremacy and it is a system, take the person, it's not personal, it's a system that needs to be maintained to say it's not intentional. Planned parenthood clinics are built intentionally. Yeah. Prisons are built intentionally. Policies are passed intentionally. The Crown Bill 2.0 is very intentional. And we're going to be getting to that very soon. Not in this show, but very soon.

2:03:46 We saw it play out over these four years. Yes, we did. And the reason why I knew, because this is an old play and it worked. So it's like they're going to be very intentional. And I keep saying this word because that's the rub with that's the rub with, I hate to use this term, everyday black people and conservatives is that they don't know what they're doing. Oh, you're looking too much into this. You know, it's not intentional. Very intentional from my point of view. Or very lucky. One or the other. It's either very intentional or very lucky.

2:04:25 But yeah, that's the black redneck. And I'm going to answer a question of yours that you've been asking since I've been listening to No Agenda. This is what happened to your T's. Oh, really? No. This is what happened to your T's because I'm guilty of it. You know, in Southern culture, we pronounce TF as H, like bathroom. You know what I'm saying? Very soft on the end of words, like TI. He was known as saying roll at Y, like watch. You know what I'm saying? Like we trim the end of our words.

2:05:01 And that doesn't identify lack of intellect. And this is something they do to black Americans that because we speak with a different dialect, it seems as a lack of intelligence. But you have whole news broadcasts and pigeon. The BBC, especially. Well, and when we started the show, I remember it just took me a while to get ready to get used to acts. And it was really when I discovered that that is, in fact, the way it was originally written way, way, way back when that I felt really stupid. And it's not even the point of that.

2:05:45 It's like, why is it if I say ask or ask, what's the difference? You know what I mean? Not you, but the person listening knows what I mean. That's just like, I don't say to a Jamaican person, when they say tree for three, I'm like, he's a dummy. You know what I'm saying? It's like, why do we do this? Well, okay, well, this is it's almost like wow, that's a good question. Because you expect Americans to be monolith, monolithic in our language. So that's where it starts from, I guess. Wow. I would say many monoliths, many, like M-I-N-I.

2:06:27 Because like the common, what's that? The New Englander kind of, you know, they have a way of speaking. Oh, yeah. And then we have these, them, and those guys. You know, we have all kinds of Italians. We have all youths. No, you, like, Y-O-U. Yes, you. I'm just thinking of good fellas with these youths, these youths. That wasn't good fellas. That was my cousin Vinny. Which that showed the Southern versus the Northern, even that takes race out of it. That was that cultural, he was out there backwards thinking and you know, that kind of thing. And this is a struggle I have with being Southern. If you just want to take race out of it,

2:07:13 when people hear your accent, they think you're an idiot. They just into a proven difference. And I would say that white rednecks are without a doubt considered to be, oh, you talk like that, you're dumb. You're clearly a redneck. You're stupid. You live in a trailer park. That's always seen that way. More so. And then the black redneck is lesser than them. You're under them. So this is, yeah. So. What's the difference between a black redneck and a white redneck? Color. Same kind of people, same attitudes. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. And same kind of results in terms of violence.

2:07:54 The number of. The number of Chinese killed, let's say, in one year by mob action exceeds all the blacks lynched in the entire history of the United States. In your opinion, what has to be done in the black schools or among black students in order to bring them up? One, you get rid of the things that are dragging them down. You stop saying that speaking black English, you know, is just as valid and all that kind of stuff. It may be just as valid to linguists and so forth. But the fact is, if you talk that way, you're not likely to get into med school. You're not likely to do very much in your life. If you were still living 50 years from now, what would you predict the black race in this country would be?

2:08:40 Oh, wow. I mean, based on trends that you've seen in the last 20, 50 years. It could go either way. If the current trends continue, it's going to be a disaster. But there's evidences that the current trends are not unchallenged. When is this interview from? This is from a 2005 interview on C-SPAN with Brian Lamb. And the YouTube video was Thomas OL Black Rednecks is the title of it. But yeah, this is, we're going to get deeper into this. And the point, two points I want to make that came back to me. But yeah, this is where your T's go to. Because with anything, we mimic whatever's popular culture.

2:09:26 Right now, and ever since maybe the early 2000s, Southern hip-hop took over hip-hop. Atlanta became the hub, Texas, Miami, these kind of things. And it took over the crown. I know, start writing your hate email now, but the South took over the crown for hip-hop. And with that, hip-hop, Southern rappers, the change in linguistics, this is where your soft T's come from. And I didn't pay attention to it until you used to bring it up. But yeah, we say, we say things differently.

2:10:05 Even if you're using the correct grammar, this the softening of T's. And what's the other thing? It's T's and something else. Oh, and also the chopping off of words like pod. You know, that's a function. Sam. Fam, pod. You know what I'm saying? We've been doing this for a long time now, but it's just that it became involved. So in fact, if I hear another one of these, one of these millennial Zoomer chicks go dropping the T's, I can say, that's cultural appropriation. You should be ashamed of yourself. You could if you want to participate in Malinformation.

2:10:49 Okay, all righty. No, I'm just saying, like, if it's... But no, it's good. It's not a bad thing, but there's a difference between conversational English and formal English. And this is where we need to make the distinction. Because if you talk to me in conversational English, it'll be more than here. Like I said, I try to, I'm doing a broadcast, so I want to make sure I'm clear to everybody. I don't have subtitles. So it's just different, different timing.

2:11:30 But yeah, that's the point I wanted to make about those two things. Thank you for that. That's good. That's good to know. Yeah, but that's why black redneck culture is prominent in pop culture right now because of the elevation of Southern hip-hop artists. But the thing is, they found the most caricature of Southern people. Like, for instance, what was the, what was the movie? Whoop that trick? Hustle and Flow. That was a caricature of a Southern hip-hop artist.

2:12:11 We gave you Outcast, which was one of the most forward-thinking, forward-looking groups of the time. But they didn't copy that. They said, we want what's good for pushing this black redneck culture. You know, this is really funny. Now that you mention that to me, now I'm hearing, of course, we've known each other for years. Now I hear you say most and was. I hear you dropping the T's. It's never occurred to me before. Yeah, it's not. Like I said, it's natural. And it's not like, I know it's a T there. I know how to spell the words, you know, but it's just.

2:12:51 and I'll keep it. I'll just keep it 100 people. It's when you're from the South, you would hear your grandmother or aunts or people when your family came down from New York, you like listen to them talking properly. You know what I'm saying? It was like, don't you come down here talking with all that proper stuff. It's racism. It's reverse racism. So that was the thing: we're conscious not to get too proper as well, unless it's your mom on the phone with like somebody with bills or something, then you see the proper come out. But I just want to make that point. So let's just jump in. This is just that you can hear

2:13:31 this next clip is from show 14 victimization mentality. This is an example of a person that could be considered a black redneck, but they have moved to Chicago to give a better life to their children. And this is from the tenement. Most of the adults who live in the tenement on South Ellis Avenue were born in rural areas of the South. They came to Chicago looking for a better way of life. They came to the south side of the city because they found that this was a place where Negroes were permitted to live. They came here without much education or sophistication in the ways of the city. They came here poor. About all that they brought with them were their hopes and their dreams.

2:14:14 Bill Staples and his wife Gloria came from Alabama. Well, I mean, every man got a dream, you know. Everybody have a dream. And you dream of going anyplace to make good, you know, to make it better for my family, better education for my kids. These are the prime reasons that I came up for. So that's that's your black redneck right there, or what they would consider the problem that would make them shudder, a person like that moving from the South. And you know, the funny thing is, Thomas Soel's parents moved from the Carolinas, I think it was North Carolina

2:14:56 to New York, and his access to a more formal education is what put him on the path to be who he was. So it's a very, you brought up the First Prince of Bel Air, it's very similar backstory between Uncle Phil and Thomas Soel coming from southern roots. But it's Tom Shaw. And then going into the high school. Did you consider Thomas Sowell to be old school bullet? No, they wouldn't let him in. Okay, got it. Got it. Now you can't, what? You're off code. He's off code. Yeah. You know, we're monetizing this blackness over here for our own games. And here you come talking about some, you know, self-accountability.

2:15:39 No, you can't have self. That's going to mess up our support base. Got it. We got to keep them wanting more. So let's get back to, speaking of which, let's get back to the bullet. And this is the fourth clip from the wealthy middle-class blacks. This is a basic embarrassment that we as Negroes have. We want to live together, yet we want to sort of scatter to the far winds and live amongst white people. We are brought up in terms of this: that to have a dark skin, to have, to be a Negro, there is something wrong with it. And if you take a child and raise him, a child, a very impressionable child, and have him grow up in an atmosphere where your color of skin is something that is looked down upon, that there is something wrong with you, that you

2:16:21 are not, you don't have the abilities of other people. Even no matter how much education, no matter how much training, et cetera, you have, a lot of these impressions stay with you. I feel that we have to search for a new image. Wow. Well, this is also colorism, of course, with a really, really dark skin. Yes, which that was a function in it as well, which a lot of these people were fair-skinned at the end of the day. Of course, that's how they did it. Paper bag test. Yes. You can't come in. You're not part of us. Just to remind people, one of the shows we talked about, Beyonce's father, he mentioned how even at Fisk in the 1970s, they had a color test.

2:17:05 You know, so this is nothing, I mean, this is the 60s, and that's after the fact of these conversations is happening. And in the book I mentioned before, All Kind of People, the author goes into how he went to these sorority and fraternity parties. And on the outside, it was like the party would be the darker people, and the center of the party would be lighter and lighter until you get to the middle. Wow. So, yeah. So, the colorism does play a big part in this. And it's funny you mentioned that. This goes right on with clip number five. When I wake up in the morning, I don't look in the mirror and say, you are a Negro, therefore you.

2:17:44 will face life in a certain way. I see myself as a person, just like all the people that I work with and the children that I deal with, and they're all people. I've got to break it here. I've tolerated this in the law. This idea of this consciousness of you've got to look in the mirror to face yourself to go through this bit about being a Negro is very naive. You know, individuals, this concept was instilled in you before you could think. Right. Oh, I know. And first of all, we have, as a symbol in our community, the white, straight hair, brown hair, as the symbol of the things it's fine for. Now, there's nothing wrong with it, except that it represents the very fact that we are talking about.

2:18:28 The idea. The Negro in our city is a rejected child. There's no two ways about it. It's in Los Angeles. It's in New York City. It's in any place in the United States. Doesn't it still kind of exist? The colorism aspect? In fact, the N-word is, in fact, used to describe often a very dark-skinned black man. Well, the N-word now describes more mentality than a color. But I would say, yeah, colorism still exists because look at politicians. It's a guy named Ford that's on MSNBC.

2:19:08 He's really, really fair. Isn't he on the five on Fox or is it different Ford? He might be moving around, but I'm just saying, I know his last name is Ford. You look at, I think it was Ben Chavis, the mayor out here. He was running for governor out here, I think, in Maryland a while back. Yeah, if you look at these politicians, especially the older, older ones, yeah, there is a color. It's a colorism thing. And Talcum X, aka, what's his name? It'll come to me. But yeah, he even, another show, he said that there's a light-skinned privilege that you can get in certain rooms with being light-skinned.

2:19:58 Colin Kaepernick would have been seen totally different. Right, right. Had he been a dark-skinned person. Yeah, so there is definitely colorist is colorism is still allowed. But colorism is not exclusive to black Americans. You go to India, you go to South America. This tells you that it's Latin America. Right. This goes to show you that it's worldwide. Everybody's racist. Well, when you've been taught. Sean King. Sean King. Yes, thank you. When you've been taught that the image of beauty is this from the mass media.

2:20:39 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what does it. You're right. Right. This is why black publications are so important because my beauty standards were set by Jet Beauty of the Week. You know what I'm saying? That's the first thing you turn to. You got the jet. Well, it's like, hold on, page 27. Let me see what's going on. And you saw women that looked like you but were beautiful. And you saw women on perm boxes. That's a bad example, but hair product bottles that were a representation of our beauty, not through the lens of whiteness. And I hate to use that term. I cringe at just using it. But this is how the white lady in the news, I mean, the news clip we listened to earlier.

2:21:20 This is how her mind's been shaped. Because the media told her, you're bad. You know what I'm saying? You should be ashamed of who you are. Subtly, this is what we're taught by, you know, saying this is real beauty. I mean, Lena Horn, you know, look, you know what I'm saying? Just keep going down the list. Our beauty, you know what I'm saying? The older people who first beauty had to be. First black woman I fell in love with was Cleopatra Jones. Right. I think that goes a lot of favorite women. It was badass, man. She was so badass. And just now we got to go to Dr. Francis Chris Welsing and discuss, do black people really want to be white.

2:22:01 We have been taught under white supremacy to demean and degrade pigmentation. And so that's that's a mistake that we can learn from. See, like I would say, if, you know, black people, black people in this area of the world given the choice, I could say black people all over the planet is given a choice. If somebody said, take this pill and you could become white tomorrow, that the level of self-hate of black people on the planet has been so great that 90% of black people would want to become white by tomorrow morning. And, you know, we just have to observe that and say, well, that's fascinating.

2:22:44 But we do understand that we are in a system of racism, white supremacy. And each time that you turn on the television, you're getting a dose, a big dose, every time you open a magazine, every time you open a book, every time you go to a movie. If you go to a movie and you just see white people, you're seeing the negation of black people because there are no black people. So again, if, you know, our intelligence, meaning our ability to understand our environment, will go up

2:23:21 very high, just beginning to accurately decode the power system dynamic in which we find ourselves at this point in time. Wow, this is actually now one of my favorite clips. We've talked about, well, she says supremacy, but of course, what we learned, what I learned, is white supremacy. I find it very important to pronounce it differently from Neely Fuller Jr. Supremacy. And what she says here is that really it's been the elites who have psyoped the world for centuries, probably because they own the medium, printing press, et cetera, et cetera, all the way through to where we are today, that it has been the media who have taught us this, that lighter skin is more supreme.

2:24:16 And that goes for it goes for white people too. Of course. I mean, because there's gradients of white. Don't get it twisted because a blonde-haired, blue-eyed white woman trumps a ginger appearing woman. Oh, yeah. Even inside of whiteness, you know. And when you watch television shows, the heart throb, and this is going when I was growing up, the heart throb had to be the blonde hair, blue-eyed. Now, you know, in the group, now you had a brown blue. There's your Aryan race. There's your Hitler's blonde blue eyes.

2:24:53 Correct. This is where it comes from. And when we go back, for people to go back and listen to show 14, I think we discussed it that when you lock people into these tenements and projects and you pump, only thing you pump through is the image of white America. Because back in those days, the 60s, you know, you only had the broadcast channels. And you only had Leave it the Beaver and All in the Family. And there was no recognition. Look at these wonderful people on their way to the beach. All right. Little 60s television. And that's the thing because this is where they do white people or so-called white people a disservice because everybody thinks y'all have everything you need.

2:25:42 You know, everybody white is rich, you know, on television. Like, look at Al, but I'm going to give you an example. Look at Al Bunny. He sold shoes. Yeah. He had a two-story house and his wife didn't work. He sold shoes. How does that work? You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, how does that work? I know it's trivial. Psychopath, psyop, psyop. It's psychological operations, man. And another example, and I know we got to move on, is when you watch these house buying shows, you have one lady likes a part-time pottery person, and the guy's like a teacher in an inner city. I know I was, yes, yes.

2:26:26 And they're buying like a $600,000 home. I'm like, wait, wait, do you wait? Are you telling me these shows are fake? Nah. But what it represents is, because when it's to, if I was a person that just bought stuff on surface, it's like, how the hell did it have a teacher and a part-time pottery person buying a $600,000 home? And it just gets, oh, you know, that's privilege. But the system, as you said, they own the medium and this is what they constantly got to pump out until now. Now you see it's, oh, it's trans. Everything trans is right. You know, a trans person go on a shooting spree and we stand with the trans.

2:27:12 Huh? It's to the point where, like I said, this is why our mental health is so important in listening to shows like this and no agenda. Because I told you, you know, I was missing the no agenda show. Yeah. Because you got to hear people talk about stuff to, you know, de weaponize it and discuss it in long form. But yeah, that's the power. power, man. And you know what comes out of that when you watch that and you're not outside looking in? Low self-esteem. Yeah. And we have the next clip with Neely Fuller discussing confusion and self-esteem. Yes, the white supremacists do this in all nine areas of activity all of the time.

2:27:55 Okay. See, in other words, the way to confuse people is to lead them to have questions with no answers. That's what confusion is. Lots of questions with no answers. Why is this happening? Why is that happening? What are those people doing over there? Why are they doing it? And all like that. I see. Well, in all the areas of activity, the white supremacists say, keep those dark-skinned people confused. And that way, confusion brings on what? Frustration. Oh, you improve your self-esteem by doing things that work. This is what self-esteem comes from. Doing things that work.

2:28:39 Ah, man, he's so smart. He's so smart. And the reason why I bring her to the show so often in the back end is going to be heavy with him because it's logical. It's not his emotion. It's not, you know, and he's not even coming with solutions per se. His role is identifying what the problem is. You know, somebody else has to solve it. And really, all people can solve it is ourselves. You know, you have to, you control your actions. And this is where seven habits come in for me because being effective is the only reaction to this system. That's how you don't get canceled if you're constantly effective. So I agree.

2:29:22 Yeah. So let's go. You got anything you want to add? No, no, just bring me more Neely Fuller Jr., man. Love him. All right, let's get to the second part of self-esteem. That's what self-esteem is. It doesn't work against you. Your self-esteem starts disappearing when you're doing things that are working against you. You know, I mean, it just starts slowly easing away from you so that you don't have any left. But all so-called self-esteem comes from you know what to do, you know how to solve problems. See, basically, that's it. Problem solving. And that's where self-esteem comes from.

2:30:01 When you get to the place you have a whole lot of problems, you don't know how to solve them. Your self-esteem goes, and then you just start doing any kind of thing. Just start lashing out at anything because you're frustrated. Frustrated, confusion brings about frustration. Frustration brings about all kinds of chaos. And the chaos brings about all kinds of conflict if you're around other people. Because you'll just lash out at everybody and then eventually lash out against yourself. That's why we are very toxic when we're around each other. We're frustrated. We're confused. We are angry. And, you know, we just, well, we're going to take it out on somebody.

2:30:43 We don't want to keep just hitting ourselves upside the head all day long. So we hit somebody else upside the head. Why? Because they look like us. Wow, man. This is so good. How do we, what is it within our power to stop that for everybody? For all, obviously, it affects everybody. How do we stop that? Besides just be proactive. Put first things first. Begin with the end in mind. Synergy. Sharpen the saw. What's that? Seek first to understand, then be understood. It's one more I'm forgetting. But I mean, it's seven habits because it's what I do.

2:31:27 Not the environment, not everybody else. Not there's going to be this messianic leader that comes along where he's orange man or the next MLK or whoever else. I have to be effective. And the only definition of effective is realizing a goal. That's effective. I have this goal. It's realized. Okay, I solved the problem. And this is where I don't have one person I go to for ideology. Neely Fuller, I go for him for understanding the code and the system. You know, you go to other people, you know, Dr. Wilson, he says, what? What solves problems? Culture solves problems.

2:32:09 You see what I'm saying? Like, so this is, you have to take these tidbits of information, put them together, and say, okay, it's like a, you know, a potluck. You know, I'm going to get a little bit of this, a little bit of that, a little bit of nation of Islam, the way they, you know, saying, value their health and their appearance. I want some of that, you know. I want some, I want some. some guns. You know what I'm saying? Malcolm X, you know what I'm saying? Let me get some of that. And hopefully, this is what's been representing this show that I don't come with one ideology. I come with what sound advice and what I think works. And, you know, and culture is what you do to solve problems.

2:32:46 Just like if there's an island over there, it's a bunch of food on it. We need to create a culture to, you know, saying to go and get that food and bring it back. You know, so, okay, we might need to be a culture of people that use marine, you know, like boats, ships, marine central culture, you know, or naval central culture or, you know, that kind of thing. That's what we do to solve problems. So just that's my opinion. It's the only thing we can do is be effective. And Dr. Covey, you laid out the habits, you know, and that's my opinion. And only you can solve your problem. Nobody else can solve your problem for you.

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2:37:47 Thank you all so much for supporting Mo Facts with Adam Curry episode 91. I look forward to your support for 92. All right. So this is where Scott Adam was right. Here we go. And he's backed up by Mr. Neely Fuller. Black people should stay away from black people, according to Neely Fuller, and I support this, but unless it's one condition going on, and that's if whatever you're working on is constructive. If it's not constructive, stay away. And that's what Neely Fuller says.

2:38:26 Let's go ahead and get into 34. This is to be expected, but we should understand, first of all, that we're programmed this way. Black people are toxic. All of us are toxic. We are loaded with poison because the system of white supremacy puts that poison in us even before we are born. And when we're born, we're born into a system of white supremacy. We're not born into a system of la-la-land. We're born into the system of white supremacy. The system of white supremacy is designed for everyone, including black people themselves, to have a hostile position, a hostile thought toward anything dark and particularly dark people.

2:39:14 That's just the way the world is run. That's the way the white supremacists have set it up before any of us were born. So we have to, first of all, know that. So we all carry that poison. It's in us. We're not aware of it, in one sense, you might say. And then in another sense, we are aware of it, but we're in denial. Wow. My brain just blew up. Toxic. Wow. And unless you're getting together to be constructive,

2:39:52 you should avoid each other. And this is where it validates my school of fish flock of birds, which I haven't mentioned in a long time. Yeah. But fish in a school respect each other's space. They acquiesce and move out of respect of the other fish's space. Now they're moving together, but there's a proper distance that's maintained between each fish. And that's the point why I use the school of fish because there's no leader. You know, this is how we're moving. Okay, we need to move to the left. We need to move up. We need to move down.

2:40:32 They move in unisons, but they're not bumping in, you know what I'm saying, and knocking into each other. Nope. When birds fly, they fly in a formation. And that's the point I'm saying that we need to be respectful. If you're feeling toxic, just keep to yourself. There's a brother named A.L. Kaseko, and he said the three S's is solitude, sobriety, and sexlessness. That's the solitude part. You know, if you're not at your best and you're not going to be constructive wherever you're going, where it's the cookout or the party or wherever else, stay at home.

2:41:13 You know, if you're just going to get together to gossip, stay at home. You know, and I think a lot of people fall into this, even especially content creators, that they feel they had to talk. I had to say something. But their message is not constructive. And not being constructive is going to lead to disaster. So this is why I said, according to Neely Fuller, Scott Adams is right in the fact that we need to stay away. Neely Fuller puts it, no contact, no conflict. Wow. But we have to admit, first of all, we have this poison.

2:41:53 And then we immediately should jump to what do we do about it? Well, the first thing you do, you don't want poison to spread. That's just a part of physics, the laws of mathematics. If you got poison on hand, you don't want the poison to spread. How do you keep the poison from spreading? You make sure that every contact that every black person makes with every other black person has a plan. plan beforehand to do something constructive, do or say something constructive. So we, every time we make contact with anything, we just spread poison because we are loaded with poison.

2:42:33 And if we are contacting other black people, they are loaded with poison and dynamite. And you're going to get an explosion unless you tailor. and suppress that poison and tailor it in such a way that it's kind of shunted off to the side or it doesn't manifest itself. I mean, when we make these contacts. So I have it in the book, the textbook for victims of white supremacy. No contact, no conflict. If you minimize the contact, you minimize the conflict. Do you think the elites of the world know this? Know what? Well, I'm just thinking about it. We're full of poison.

2:43:16 They pump out poison 24-7. So food. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because they want us dead, Adam. I mean, let's just be they want you dead or to agree with them. One or the other. You know, and it's very, it's very hard to accept that fact that somebody won't, if you're not fitting what they think is supreme, they want you dead one way or another. You know what I'm saying? It doesn't matter. So yes, I think they are aware because the system is designed in it. This is not happenstance. And at the bottom is where it materializes the clearest.

2:43:57 And it's crystal clear because when you're frustrated, you've been taught that you're second class and you accept the victimization mentality and you bring other people here. And anything, for instance, like right now in New York, you bring other people here from other countries, you put them in five-star hotels, and I'm living in a rat-infested squalid tenement. You know what I'm saying? Still, America, these tenements are still existing to this day. And you do this, of course, like you said, when you ruin my self-esteem because I haven't seen any results from 60 years of civil rights, no results.

2:44:37 Now I'm frustrated and frustration turns to lashing out. And this is why I'll say to Scott Adams, we hate crime just as much as you do. It's the record labels and the media companies that make you think we like crime. We hate criminals just as much as anybody else. It's this monolith that all black people love criminals every time they start talking on the criminal justice system. You know, how do we reform criminals? When you see these quote-unquote white people being attacked and something tragic and malicious happens to them, they always say, what? They had a record. They shouldn't have been out in the streets. Nine times out of 10, the people on that record were black people victimized first.

2:45:22 Well, if you do in an interesting way, in an interesting way, you're making a case for the Soros sisters because, you know, because of all of this taking place, black people have had a bad run of it and they're always getting blamed for all of it. So we need to go easy on. No, that's the media misrepresentation of the facts. I don't want you. I don't want to be your experiment. I don't want my neighborhood to be your experiment and see, oh, it's letting felons out. You know, exactly. No, I agree. I agree, but that's what they're using. Yeah, of course. It makes sense. You know what I'm saying? If you look at it that way, but that's.

2:46:03 Yeah, that's crazy. Don't be confused that they're confused. They know exactly what they're doing. Just like not the harp on the trans thing. They knew exactly how it was going to sound when they came out and supported trans people after this shooting happened. Right? They knew how it was going to be taken. And I want to give one example of I think people misunderstand what's going on. This John Pierre, whatever her name is. Kareem Abdul Jean-Pierre Van Dam? Yes, her. She's very good at her job. People think, oh, she's dumb. She's this, is that. She's there to gaslight you. You ask her a question and she asks another question without batting the eye.

2:46:46 And what does it do? Frustrate you to the point you want to punch something. You know what I'm saying? This is how they've been dealing with a very long time. That's how they spin people up, particularly white Republicans. But they've been spinning us up like that. Yes, for a very long time. Because like I said, they showed us all these cop shootings. The same way they're showing the violent white crimes now. The algorithm force-fed this on black people to the point that they were radicalized. radicalized. And no, we don't want crime. And you know what? The good thing, like Thomas OL was referring to, there is some change. People are coming out now and saying, We're not with this crime.

2:47:27 And you know what? That benefits? Crime Bill 2.0. Oh, yeah. Because you know who asked for the first crime bill? Black people. Do something about this crime. And they'll be like, oh, I just so happy. It's like the vaccine, right? I just so happy to have some mRNA right here. You know what I'm saying? For the problem. Problems. Reduction solution. Exactly. I just so happen to have this crime bill that might solve your problem, which is only going to make the problem worse because fall into fatherlessness goes through the roof again. Yeah. So I'm just saying, like, it's nothing. Yeah. Yeah, repeat. Repeat a history.

2:48:06 So, and so that leads us right into this thing where they act like they can't solve the black problem. I'm more than aware whenever white supremacy gets tired or they can work you into the corner to ask for what they want to do already. They already know what they want to do. The trick is they make you ask for it. You know, just like, just like the people that feared the super spreaders. And I heard this firsthand. When are you going to vaccinate these people? When are you going to force vaccine? When are you going to start firing people if they don't take the vax? I heard this. Yeah. Out of people's mouths. You know what I'm saying? People that you work with, you thought were, you know. And the funny thing is, pretty reasonable.

2:48:50 You'll hear people say, We're never letting them do that to us again. And I think, oh, don't worry. You will. You will. You'll beg for your demise. Yeah. Take me up to a higher level here, Moe. I'm getting depressed. This is Neely Fuller talking about how they can wrap all gangs up in one afternoon. Yeah. They train their dogs just like they train their black people. So they, you know, they tell black people, join a gang. You want to solve your problems? Join a gang. You know, and kill your neighbors. I mean, your neighbors all look like you. That's what I want done. All right. So y'all go at it. I'll sit there and read the comic book while y'all, you know, look out the window while y'all are doing it.

2:49:33 You know, because ain't none of you got no sense. I tell you everything that you need to know. You know, so I give you all guns when you're going to kill each other. Now, if you start coming at me, I mean, you know, you're going to find out what hell it is because I'm the inventor of guns. I know all about violence. You can't teach me nothing about violence. That's the white supremacist talk at you. Yes, sir. You know, I can wrap all of you all up and you know it. That's why you don't bother me with that nonsense over there across the tracks in the ghetto. None of you. All of you bad ones, I mean, with the tattoos and the dark shade. Yeah, you scare each other with that nonsense.

2:50:10 You don't scare me at all. I sit there and read a comic book behind that nonsense and then wrap you up and your whole family and all your gangs put together in one afternoon and you know it. Why? Because I am a white supremacist boy. I'm a white supremacist gal. And you know it. And I don't have to tell you. You already know this. Now, break that down so people understand because I got it because I've been around you long enough. Yeah. What he's saying is that whenever they want to solve the problem of quote-unquote outright crime and mayhem, they can do it in one afternoon. Chicago.

2:50:55 Chicago. What we saw in New York, doing 33 arrests in one day. You know what I'm saying? With wrapping them up. With Fox News embedded, embedded. The reporter on the beat with him. Oh, we're going there. And you know what? The gangs know this. I'm going to be honest with you. The people that's attacking white folks, the black people, they're crazy. They're crazy. I mean, literally, because every self-respecting black person knows you can't go around hurting white folks and get away with it. So they got to be crazy. Yeah. I'm being honest with you because this is not me saying it. If a criminal says, hey, Maddie just went and did a robbery, where'd you hit?

2:51:36 Over there and just throwing a Malibu or Beverly Hills or, you know what I'm saying, or somewhere they ain't supposed to be? The other criminals are going to say, Are you crazy? You know what kind of heat that's going to bring down on us? Seriously, they know their boundaries. You know, the criminals know. And the people that are doing these, like, pushing people in trains and stuff, they're crazy. Yeah. Because they know you can victimize black people all day, every day, and make a song about it. Yeah. you might get a few years if they come looking for you. But as soon as you hurt a white person, oh no. You know what I'm saying? No, that's not going to happen.

2:52:20 And not this ain't. I got Nilly Fuller to back me up with 37. That's why you dare not think about messing with me. I don't care how bad you're supposed to be. Prove that you're bad to each other. I let you do that. In fact, I taught you how to do it. Keep at it because that fits my agenda. Okay. That's the white supremacist. That's the white supremacist. All the black people out here robbing. And, you know, we know who to rob. You know, we know how far we're going to have to run if we rob somebody white. All right. You have to run a little further than you rob. Every robber, street robber, knows this.

2:52:57 You're going to have to run. You know, you get out there and get a, you know, you can kill four and five black babies all day long in a gunfight. You kill one white child and you ain't going to run far enough to find something to step on. All right. If you do it by mistake while you're trying to kill that other Negro. All right. You made the mistake and hit that white woman's baby in that carriage. Now you're going to be running forever. Yeah. True. So, yeah, so I'm just saying. So the criminals know, but what's happening is you're having spillage. And for several reasons, you're having

2:53:40 with gentrification, people going in the neighborhoods that were typically quote-unquote urban and criminals, especially homeless criminals or mentally ill criminals, they're not leaving their territory. You know, I don't care how gentrified it is. And these people go on a crash collision because you remember, let's go back to the 1350 meme. 13% of the people do 50% of the crimes, but 90% of that 50% is done against people that look like them. Yeah, it's interesting. Or higher. You can see now that gentrified East Austin, cops won't even go there.

2:54:23 Correct. They won't even go. Because you know why? Because the main people there that were gentrified was the one that wanted to defund the police. So the police said, okay, we'll show you. We'll show you blue flu. Blue flu. Hey, what do you want us to do? You want us to come out here and mediate? No, we don't do that. You call us, you know what I'm saying, to get it, pick up the dead body. And that's how they look at it. And there's another thing that I mentioned before, but this is one of the strategies of confusion. And it's called white sacrifice. I know people are looking at me like, Mo, there's real crime happening against white people. And I'm like, yeah, I know. And it's used as a purpose. It's called white sacrifice. And Neely Fuller is going to explain it in the next clip. Racial white sacrifice confusion.

2:55:08 White sacrifice? Yes. Meaning, when you drive down the street and you look out your car window, you see some white people on park benches. You see some white people who are out there barefooted in the winter time. And you see some white people walking around talking to themselves and whatnot and don't have anything. I mean, and you say, oh, this is racism is over because look, if you got white people who are poor, you got white people that don't have anything. You got white people who are suffering just like black people. So it's not racism. It must be something else. No, the white supremacists operate on a percentage basis.

2:55:50 They know that, and they even put up, they put in position in the path of danger a certain segment of white people. They'll just pick out white people, so to speak, and just throw them under the bus. This is to distract non-white people to thinking that racism doesn't exist. Yes. But they do it on a percentage basis. See, for every 10,000 black people that they kill, they'll kill 10 white people and say, see, you know, it's not about race. I mean, you know, I mean, people just out here killing people. That's all it is.

2:56:34 White sacrifice. And greatest example of that is the January 6th prisoners. Outstanding example. No. Criminal justice, nobody come to save them. And they're still in jail. Notice they let the ringleader, so-called ringleader, the shaman, they let him out. Yeah. Same day 45 was indicted. You know, kind of make sure we don't talk about it. Correct. But I'm just, and that's this. why, and it's something I didn't put it in the show, but I just want to address it because this goes back to those black people in the 60s that was making it.

2:57:14 The system has two gas, guys, a gas and break. They have white sacrifice on one hand that shows white people and the white appearing people in a bad light, right? Just show that they're, you know, it can't be any racism because white people are being affected too. Right. And at the same time, they use this thing called racial showcasing, where while we're putting white people down, some a segment, we're lifting up a segment of black people to say, oh, we've got billionaire rappers, you know, billionaires, billionaire, black billionaires everywhere. You can't, you just trip over them. It's so many black billionaires. To so say, see, it's because you didn't do, you didn't lift yourself up. That's the problem.

2:57:57 You know, and they do these two things simultaneously. And I'm going to give you a great example. You've probably seen it. The hearing of this aviation, whatever. Oh, the black guy. You know, people are like, you got to play this. I said, you know, there's something so wrong about what's going on right here with this guy. The way the way that they're doing. They're setting black people up for the fall. All black people about to take the fall like no other fall you ever seen. And it's going to make me more dependent. This guy, I mean, he was nominated for FAA, not commissioner, administrator. And, you know, he has

2:58:39 zero aviation experience. He has never worked in an airport. He probably hasn't even flown that much. And I got to tell you, the questions that were being asked as an airman, as a pilot, I had to look a few of them up. This was bullshit. It was, it was, but it was so wrong. In tandem, that was white sacrifice and black showcasing all in one because I'm sure there's a white person out there that's more qualified than him. I'm sure there's a black person more qualified than him out there. But they highlight it to show you we're going to highlight somebody that's incompetent in their field.

2:59:18 I don't know that man's past. I don't know his history. You know what I'm saying? But in that field, he sounded very incompetent and how they presented him. This dude, Alvin Bragg's or whatever his name is, the same thing. Have you even noticed everybody that's around taking Trump down is black all of a sudden? Everybody. And what's interesting. They're overrepresented. What's interesting is in white right-wing media, it's being represented as DEI. That's the issue. Yeah, reverse racism. Wokeness. Wokeness. Wokeness. Wokeness. Like, oh, all these people. Where do all these people come from all of a sudden? Why are they being set up to take the fall? You know, I mean, I'm not to get into the details of it.

3:00:02 I'm just everywhere you look, the vice president, even the president, he's incompetent. Everybody is incompetent by design. Yeah. So when it's all said and done, they can do just like they did with the war in the Middle East. We didn't know. We didn't know they didn't have weapons of mass destruction. Everybody gets rich. Nobody goes to jail. We didn't know. And Colin Powell gets left holding the bag. Holding the little vial. Yeah. Don't drop that cake. I thought you're going to lift me up, Mo. That's funny. Well, I am. That was fun. That was funny. I like it. At the end of the day, the power is within us to change us.

3:00:48 You can only change you. And once you realize there's a cost of racism, it should be an incentive to want to change. I sure hope people listen. I sure hope they do. And let's hear about that cost and the racism. This is John H. Bracey, and I think it's a very telling clip to wrap it up. You know, so I've always found it more effective to say that the racism is not free for anybody. You know, and then you pay the price, you know, for what has happened to African American people, that you're not getting off scot-free.

3:01:24 And that if you still believe in white supremacy or any hints of white supremacy and are not at the absolute top of the social structure, you ought to go looking for somebody to be mad at. Because the benefits of being a white person are like shrinking and shrinking and shrinking to be an ordinary white person, a regular white person, you know, not a wealthy, rich white person. And so the payoff for white supremacy, you know, the clientele for that payoff is getting smaller and smaller and smaller. And in a sense, the majority of the white American population is dropping. dropping down to where black people are.

3:02:02 You know, which is to say, your unemployment rate, you know, your living conditions, your level of debt, you know, your level of social anxiety is coming down to where we are. You know, and I would like to say welcome to the club for Misery Loves Company. I would say I see that all everywhere around me. Absolutely. 100%. Five by five, ten by ten. Completely true. And people don't see it. And they're blaming it on the wrong things. Yeah. So, I mean, but I have faith that the further and further they back us into this corner, you know, it's gonna create some kind of understanding, and which is seek first to understand, then to be understood.

3:02:49 This is what this four-year conversation has been with me and you: that I pick your brain, you pick my brain, you fill in some blanks for me, I fill in some blanks for you. And we become better people out of it, which makes us, you know, saying more likely to be effective. So, but there is a cost of racism, there is a cost. And it's like we need to, is it worth it? Or do we need to go with a system of justice? Well, also, I hope everyone looks at us. We're free men. We're American men. We don't take no crap. Nope. If you don't mind, I think that's exactly part of it. And we are always trying to be productive together.

3:03:31 That's the whole goal of it. So that's my wrap on Mr. Scott Adams. And just to give some understanding the background, hopefully, he hears the show and he has a better understanding because I'm speaking to reach, not to be right. So I hope that. Well, we're looking forward to hearing from Scott. He might actually. Yeah, someone's going to send him this. He'll listen. I'm sure he will. I hope so. And as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. And we will reveal ourselves once again on episode 92, which will be in a couple of weeks.

3:04:08 We'll try and let you know ahead of time. Please remember us at mofax.com, M-O-E-F-U-N-D-M-E.com for MoFunme.com. Mo, thank you so much, man. I enjoyed it as always. Thank you as well, Adam. And we'll talk to you very soon right here. I'm MoFax with Adam Curry. Until then, take care, everybody. Bye-bye. I got a bad attitude. Playing, tell them how to move. No need for shame. I get more peace at slow speech. Go beat the game. Young control freak gets cold in my veins. I'm below freezing. Snow season made me. They know that I so need my space. Don't want to grow old, so I smoke just in case.

3:04:50 She say that I glow below the waist. And the stroke, that's just so PGA. All I got is a little bit of space and time drawn shapes and lines of a world yet. Small may be right around the corner, but I swear it's gonna be worth it if I make you pay it. Somewhere above, you keep reaching up. That's really all it takes. We don't need nothing but today. Today, today, today. The world is so small till it ain't, till it ain't. Till it ain't, till it ain't, yeah. I'm building up a wall until it breaks, till it breaks, till it breaks, till it breaks.

3:05:35 She hated when I call, and it's late, and it's late, and it's late. I don't wanna keep it waiting. I hope I never keep it waiting, waiting. Nine times out of ten, I get it wrong. That's why I wrote this song. Tell myself to hold on. I can feel my fingers slipping in a motherfucking instant. I'll be gone. Do you want it all if it's all mediocre? Staring at the wall and the wall full of posters. Looking in my dreams, who I want to be.

3:06:20 I guess you gotta see it to believe. Oh, I've been a fool, but it's cool. That's what human beings do. Keep your eyes to the sky, never glue to your shoes. Guess there was a time when my mind was consumed. But the sun coming out now, clouds start to move. Don't tell me nothing but the truth. I'm tired, I don't got a spare second. When it lows, when it lows, I don't keep count, nobody checking.