77: No Hugs Needed

00:21 MoFax with Adam Curry for March 2nd, 2022. This is episode number 77. The Facts Machine Keeps On Rolling. I'm Adam Curry coming to you from the heart of D Texas Hill Country. Time once again to spin the wheel of topics from here to Northern Virginia. Please say hello to my friend on the other end, Mr. Mo Facts. How you doing, Adam? I'm good, Mo. I'm just got back from a road trip to Dallas. So you know that kind of fuzzy feel you got when you drive for four and a half hours? Oh, yeah. A thousand, thousand-yard stare kind of thing. Yeah, for me, you know, with my eyesight, probably closer to 25, but it's what it is.

01:01 I'm very excited to be speaking to you again, my friend. This is a highlight of at least one highlight of every other week, for sure. Everything good there? Everything good on your end? Oh, well, you're talking about that feeling from the road, and I'm still feeling some residual effects from the third rail. Oh, man. Yeah. How did that go? What was the feedback you got? It was great, but a few people were triggered. As expected. I mean, we tapped into the programming and got some program-related responses, but a few people hit me up as like, you know, once I processed it, okay, I see where you're coming from kind of thing.

01:45 So, I mean, it was mostly, I mean, mostly good. Yeah, I got good feedback. And I also turned a couple other people on to that particular episode. And yeah, hey, man, we don't have to answer to anybody but ourselves and the people who produce the show. That's it. Which is the beauty, which is the beauty of the value for value model. All right, everybody, why don't we get this show underway and roll out this wheel of topics? Let's see what we got. What are we going to talk about today? The topic for MoFax with Adam Curry for March 2nd, 2022 is... In this political football game. Is this a Super Bowl?

02:27 No. It's the other great American pastime politics. Oh, okay. Yes, I've heard of that. In the spirit of the State of the Union, last night, I think it would be a good time to review Biden's progress report so far. You know, it took him a long time. Yeah, look, I'm going to reserve judgment and I'm going to withhold my comment because I just looked at that right off the bat. I'm like, I got all kinds of stuff to say. Yeah, that's why we had to do this. And it was so predictable that I didn't get to change the clips from the show I had already made. I love that it was just completely predictable. That's hilarious. Yeah.

03:11 Oh, yeah, we know what's going to come. So I guess we go ahead and get started. We got Tucker. This is pre-State of the Union. This is what he had to say about Biden. Good evening and welcome to Tucker Carlson. Tonight, in less than an hour, Joe Biden begins his annual State of the Union address. Imagine if he dared to be honest about it. What would he say? What is the state of our union tonight? Well, in a word, it is fragile, very fragile. The United States is poorer. It's more fearful. It's far less free than it was when Joe Biden became the president just 13 months ago. Joe Biden inherited a divided country, a very divided country, and then he proceeded to make it much angrier.

03:49 History will judge Joe Biden for that. But in the meantime, voters already are. Biden's poll numbers have dropped to the point that it's impossible to explain them without admitting that you're at fault. It's not just unvaxed Confederate QAnon seditionists who disapprove of Joe Biden at this point, much as the White House suggests otherwise. It's pretty much everyone who lives here, apart from the bitter 50-something-year-old wives or private equity barons. They're skiing in Aspen right now, and they still love Biden. But everyone else has second thoughts, and that would include many Americans who once supported Joe Biden. It would include Hispanic voters, independent voters, an awful lot of black men. Hey, there you go. Now, did I, am I mistaken, Boyd, did it take the president up until the end of his entire State of the Union to say the State of the Union is strong?

04:37 Yeah, it's a lot of things he didn't say. Because I'm like, where's that bit? Isn't that supposed to be in the first two minutes or something? You just got to roll that out so everyone can applaud? I guess it wasn't there for him to say then. Unless he purposely hid it. I mean, you know, he had to say it, but he had to. You can't start out with that with everything that's going on. You got Pootie Tang in Ukraine. What they for the. did you call Pootie Tang? Pootie Tang, yeah, you got well, I gotta write this down. Pooty tang. Who came up with this? That's mine. Oh, I like it. How do I spell Pootie Tang? P-U-T-I-T-A-N-G? P. I think it's P-O-O-T-I-E

05:14 Pootie Tang, yeah, Pootie Tang. Thank you. Of course, we had to come up with these things because when you talk about them on certain platforms, you have to self-censor to beat the meme game. You know, it's like with the vaccine, we had to say Vaseline. This is what you got to use on YouTube, you mean? Yes, sir. Oh, I got you. I got you. I got you. Or you definitely will feel the wrath there. But what's going on in Russia or Ukraine? Better yet, his numbers are in the tank. And a lot of people aren't happy with him. No. So everybody was on.

05:54 I think a lot of people were waiting to see if he was going to make it through the whole thing. Quite honestly, I was waiting for the headline: like, president collapses. It's past his 22-minute marker. Yeah. And that's, I think a lot of people were waiting on that, but I mean, I got to give him credit. He did make it to the end. He did. He made the tape. He made the tape in the race. He did. He did. Give him that credit. But a lot of people are unhappy because, like what you said, what he mentioned late, there's certain things that he didn't mention at all. Yeah, January 6th, he didn't mention. And what other things did he not mention?

06:32 Well, clip number three, Lynch. Oh, we'll give you a little bit. That little idea. Okay. Well, I'll start with the response, which wasn't a response at all. It was an addendum. It was a chill eating and putting all the black stuff into that speech that should have been in the Biden speech. If you were paying attention, Biden not once mentioned black, black people, African Americans, Negro, anything in that speech. And that is, and I was kept thinking to myself, what a difference 300 days makes. When Biden gave his speech on the 100th anniversary, 100th anniversary of him taking office, there was a huge section in there about speaking to quoting George Floyd's daughter about my dad's going to make history and really hammering home.

07:17 I mean, I think his quote was, we have all seen the knee of injustice on the neck of black America. That is how strong that passage was in Biden's speech of two black people and about these issues supporting black people in the 100-day speech. Not one word in this speech, even when he was speaking about historically black college universities, he used the acronym. Even when he was speaking about his historic pick of a black Supreme Court justice, he didn't even acknowledge and lift her up as a black woman. Right? Huh? Okay, hold on a second. I think we have to establish here that Ukraine is the new black.

07:59 Yeah, well, Ukraine is the new Black Lives Matter. Yeah. Exactly. You see, did you, did you? Did you notice that besides them all having the, you know, there were colors of the Ukrainian flag, the actual room was lit with some yellow lighting and stuff like that? I didn't realize that. Yeah, I was like, holy crap, they've lit it. They've lit this thing. Well, the White House will be next. I mean, you know how. Yeah. Of course. But that's. So was there an anticipation from Black America like Joe's going to fix everything for us now? Well, there was an anticipation, but not from that side. Of the side of saying, you got God again.

08:41 That was the anticipation just to show people that we tried to tell you, you try to cut a deal with Joe. You thought Joe was going to deliver, and this is what you got. And you can hear the frustration that was in Charles Blow. He's actually on the Black News channel now on YouTube. He's from, you know, I'm from New York Times, but you can hear the frustration in his voice. And like, surprise? What are you surprised about? So how this goes. Is this a black Twitter meme now? Like, they got you again? Is that what's trending? Is that really a thing? No, this is not a trend, but what was trending was Black Lives Matter when they mentioned funding the cops, funding police.

09:27 They tweeted about that and show Maxine Waters like sourpus face, you know, and of course I had to retweet and say, you got got. So just to remind them. And that's what, I mean, a lot of people were just like, you thought you were going to get something out of this? I mean, you might get a, you got your vice president. That's what everybody clamored about. And you might get a Supreme Court. Court justice. I won't believe it until I see it. Yeah, you're still on the Claiborne tip. Yes. Yes. He's out there, though. He's out there talking about her being such a fantastic candidate.

10:07 That's, I guess, would make sense if he knows that she's going down. But the sweet, the sweet justice of it, no pun intended, was even he got got. He thought he thought. He thought he was in. He was, yeah, he thought he was in the pocket there with his saving grace for the president. Yeah, during the election. So we're going to get this what basically this episode is going to be about. Just a review of what has happened in this administration so far. And then also the mindset of this cognitive dissonance, I would call it. I mean, I have another term for it, but I won't reveal until later in the show.

10:48 But just this, you're surprised. Nobody else is. I mean, everybody, the fact, like I said, I made this show and didn't have to change very much except for the first clip of Tucker. I mean, because it was to get that after the fact. Right. You had to get that. And that was actually beforehand, but just that's the only thing I had to change because you know how it was going to go. So I guess we can go ahead and jump into the second part of this clip from Charles Blow. Right. And so we go from saying using Floyd's daughter to champion something that will protect black people to using the family of the two officers who were killed in New York to talk about funding police and using COVID money, by the way.

11:33 He keeps saying that they voted for money to fund the police. That is not what actually happened with that. They voted for COVID funds. There were $350,000 that the states could use at their discretion. The administration went back later and said, you can, this is our advice is that you can use this money. Our guidance is that you can use this money to hire police. That's how that happened. It wasn't that anybody in that chamber voted and said we want all these money to go for policing. So it's just a stark, stark difference in how this man is talking about these issues that confront and affect black people from 300 days ago until now.

12:13 I caught that too. Because Austin is also one of those cities that, oh, no, well, after we literally defunded the police for $100 million, now they're going, oh, no, we're going to fund it again because we have the COVID relief money. That's exactly what's going on. And for the people out there that was on the left, for the Black Lives Matter Inc. Let me make sure I'm clarifying here. For all the true blue Democrats that I'm saying that happened, so our so-called black people, what did you expect? And that's like the tone of right now is listen to Charles Blow. He acts like he's surprised.

12:54 We've done this over and over and over again, even twice with a black president. And you got nothing for your vote, which how we told you it was going to go down. And I want to make it very clear now. I don't even think black people elected Joe Biden. I think there was some shenanigans. I did a show about it. You can go listen to it. I definitely think there was some shenanigans going on in these black voting districts. You know, with the ballots, whatever else. I mean, however they counted.

13:31 I don't think, you know, the black vote came out strong for Biden, but they're basing that on is your general feel as to what people said or saying now. That's what you base it on. Well, that, and like I said, I mean, just the how it went down. So, I mean, just the whole thing. It's just, I don't, I don't see, and I don't hear anybody, nobody was really happy about it, you know, in mass. You make like you have your dedicated, you know, saying Democrat, you know, bots, but that's about it. Right. But I just don't feel that, you know, that's just my personal opinion. I mean, just I don't think that was the case. But now we're moving on to Joy Reed.

14:16 Oh, yes. This is before, this is way, this is a couple of weeks before this happened. The state of the union happened. And they were preparing their self not to get anything and for Biden to do what he did. And this is her talking about Biden, Bidening. It's actually a verb. Okay. Good evening, everyone. We begin the readout tonight with three big stories that demonstrate President Biden, well, widening, returning to his foreign and domestic policy wheelhouse after a tough first year as president, in which his priorities were. reflected a very different politician from the one that many of us have come to know. First, we have one of the most significant counterterrorism operations of his presidency to date: an overnight U.S.

15:00 military raid in Syria that led to the death of the leader of ISIS, who detonated a bomb inside of a building that killed himself and members of his family rather than be taken alive. After the raid, President Biden issued this morning. Last night's operation took a major terrorist leader off the battlefield and has sent a strong message to terrorists around the world. We will come after you and find you. We also saw today Biden Bidening on the domestic front arriving in New York to discuss gun violence with Mayor Eric Adams, a former police captain who has described himself politically as a kind of Brooklyn Biden. It was a very symbolic meeting, down to its location at NYPD headquarters.

15:45 For the answer is not to defund the police, it's to give you the tools, the training, the funding to be partners, to be protectors. We're going to provide funding for cities and state to put more police officers in the places we need them. It was a meeting of like minds on gun crime. Two Democratic executive leaders who rejected the defund the police movement while pledging to address criminal justice and police reforms while on the campaign trail. Let's face it, this is a comfortable place for Joe Biden, a fundamentally centrist politician who helped write the controversial 1994 crime bill. Lately, Biden is spending time tackling issues that he spent his entire career covering.

16:28 So a lot of people getting thrown under the proverbial bus now. Yep. You got the Soros sisters letting them out of jail and now you're ramping up the cops. This is 2.94 2.0. Yeah. You're right. And then you see what's happening with the drill music. Hold on a second, Mo. 94 2.0, of course, talking, you're referring to the crime bill. So do you mean that that's coming next? Is the revamp? It'll be the 24 crime bill or whatever it'll be because you let them out, then you up the police.

17:08 You're going to show the struggle. You're going to show all the mess. And then we're going to say, oh, here's our new little yummy. Well, that's what drilled rap is actually playing. The role of little yummy. Of course. Don't you see these crazy kids with guns? And how it works is they make you ask for it. We need to just re-explain what drill rap is because I was talking to my buddy in Dallas about it last night, and he comes from the music business, and his jaw fell on the floor. So drill rap is basically they've turned rap music into this online kind of

17:45 video game or social media game where the rappers they shoot at each other, they make videos about it, and they rap about the people that's been killed. And it just keeps ramping up. It started in Chicago, then it made its way all across the United States and even in the UK. And it's like Sweden or some weird place or some other Scandinavian country I saw. It's spreading all over Europe. And what it did was it started, we made the show about the trap that was, I think, 55 Trappers Delight. It was kind of a morphing of that. Chicago took it.

18:27 And basically, it's the online game is this is like the fast track to a rap career. You get in this, you start going back and forth, killing people, killing each other, killing each other, shooting at each other. Then that gets the algorithm going. The social media algorithms. YouTube algos, Twitter algos. Yeah. Okay. And then they get picked up by a major label. Right. The major labels look for whoever's being talked about on YouTube because you have this whole other industry that's kind of disgusting of people reporting on this that don't have any skin in the game. Oh, they're just making YouTubes about the battles and the shootings.

19:10 Right. Like an MTV of drill rap. Pretty much. And they don't really have any skin in the game, but they pour gas on it. And then that gets the attention of the record labels, which sign, which is the end goal of the rappers in the first place. So this is the new music industry. Yay. And now you see the mayor of the Brooklyn Biden. How about that? How about that? The Brooklyn Biden crap. That was harsh. That's we knew who Biden was, and you heard. heard Jory Reed say so flippantly that, oh, yeah, he's just Biden, and you know, he's going back to the old things he knew about, you know, locking people up.

19:53 So, and to meet it at New York, I'm saying in New York Police Department, that was very symbolic. This is where we're at, and it's we talked about this for two years. Me and you talked about this for two years, how it was going to end up, yeah. And this is a good way to get rid of the Soros sisters. You get to purge the system, you get to blame them, and create a new gosh, a new system of algorithms. Yeah, oh, my goodness. Well, now that'll be, it'll be justice by algorithm.

20:35 Does this throw your numbers in there? Oh, you mean instead of a proper DA? Yes, they already have that. I know. I know they have it for parole and recidivism. They have algos for that. Notoriously problematic, if I can use the word. So, oh, yeah. Yeah. So, we just program the rule of law into the algo, and everything will work. Trust me. Correct. And then I think with COVID, what we learned with these, we have this system of this passport, digital passport is laying around. It'll just become house arrest. And you'll be allowed to certain zones in certain sectors, and you won't. And this is just my hypothesis, but you see how much robot and surveillance has been going on.

21:20 Yeah. Drones and whatever else over these major cities, it's not far-fetched. No, and I keep what we learned from COVID. I keep telling people, I said, you know, and I, of course, based upon our conversations, but the cops I know, they're leaving the department and they're going to work for private security firms to protect rich neighborhoods. It's like, why wouldn't I? My department won't back me. My police chief won't back me. My city council and mayors won't back me. And I'm making $40,000 a year. I'm not crazy. And we saw this with Blackwater/slash Z. Yeah, and that's where a lot of people got frustrated with the military.

22:02 The military were getting. And then they just say, you know what? I'll just go for this private firm and get paid more and have better accommodations. So, I mean, and that brings the robotics, that brings the robotics into the not rich neighborhoods, which won't even be poor. As just as the military has resorted to outside of, you know, contractors who do contractor stuff, drones, and other type of robotic warfare. And if you see some of the things they're rolling out, like these basically robots that roll around the city and like, where are you going kind of thing and policing?

22:41 And they even have cars, like automated cars. Of course, they're in beta mode and testing mode, but the car pulls up beside you. It's driven by somebody, not in the car, and it has a little computer screen, like licensed registration. I did a whole, I mean, I did a video about it. I think on one of the lost tapes. I can't remember which one it was, but yeah, I mean, we see all this, all the pieces coming together to be justice by AI. Okay. Well, once again, I'm very positive today. It's a very interesting thing. Sorry to bump everybody out so early, but it's just okay, man. You know, we won't stay. No, we want to be prepared. We want to be prepared for whatever's coming. That's important too.

23:25 Right. So we hear Joy Reed, and then we hear Charles Blow, you know, complaining about what's happening. Joy Reed wasn't really complaining. She was just kind of, yep, this is exactly what we expected. Him going, blowing up brown people and setting up the Crime Bill 2.0. This is what we expected. Now, but how can people act so surprised when before Biden was elected, you had people like Charlamagne the God and T.I. or Charlemagne the Guard, as I call him, where he's the Democratic guard, the guard for the Democrats.

24:00 But this is a clip on T.I.'s podcast where he was talking about, you know, they were comparing Trump against Biden and Biden's history. Okay, the system, it operates on fear. Correct. You know what I mean? So you have to do something, create fear, and from that fear, you can justify it. You can go justify all the shit that you know you ain't supposed to do. For instance, like the Patriot Act. You know what I'm saying? After 9-11. You know, that's why they could tap your phone. We had to get the 9-11 done first so we can have the procedures. Yeah, so after that. they're like, hey, you know, you see what they're coming over here doing.

24:41 They fly planes in that building. That's when they put all those police in our neighborhood and they hit us with those hard sentences for whether it's the 94 crime bill, the 88 crack laws. They can justify that shit based off this is where all the trouble is at. This is where all the problems is at. You see Joe Biden stand on the Senate floor and say that verbatim. He was like, I don't care about the conditions that cause these predators to become predators. We need to fix this shit now because if we don't, they're going to end up killing our moms and our fathers and our brothers. Is Joe Biden good? No, I got questions. I think he's a good guy with bad shit on him. Oh, Charlamagne. Oh, Charlamagne. Careful, careful the Boulevard phone is ringing for you, brother.

25:26 Be very, very careful. You heard what's self-correct, right? Yeah. Say he's bad. He's like, hey, but Mo. So now I love, of course, we know all about the 94 crime bill from, I don't know, you know what episode it was. And well, we've also referenced it many, many times. There's a couple of things in order for the history to repeat or to rhyme. We need, obviously, we need a little yummy type figure. We need a name. It can't be Predators again. It's got to be something else. So I'm looking for those clues. What could they call them? I mean, we have the smashing grabbers.

26:08 You know, this is this, I think that will ratchet up if they really, if they do it right. You know, they'll get that going. I think it's going to be drill rappers. I think there's drill rap. I think drill rap is a great enemy. I mean, it's scary from their standpoint. And then you got fentanyl, which I mean, which is becoming the new crack, which it's amazing that for many people is dying from it. You don't hear an actual national campaign to stop fentanyl. That would be wrong. That's not how they operate, Mo. Please. And I just me being the realist I am.

26:50 I'm never a pessimist. I'm just a realist. That I think they know the system can't support 40, 50-year-old junkies. So it's like, let's ramp, ramp up the drugs. If it kills them, it kills them. And depopulation. And then you turn around and whoever sells it to them, we can lock them up for murder. I mean, you saw this with the Michael Williams situation that four people were taken down with his case. It just seems that, well, maybe drill rap could, yeah, that it could be it. These drill rappers. I'm just trying to figure out how to figure out what it is. Drill is just scary. These drill rappers, but rappers is the problem here.

27:33 Just from a marketing standpoint, it's got to be scary. A rapper is like hip-hop, hibbit, hip-hop. Don't stop rocking until you bang bang boogie. It doesn't sound scary enough. The drill part is great. I think maybe that's the only thing they need left. It's the name. It's the super predator scary term. Yeah. To scare you. Do we have a candidate drill rapper who could be the little yummy of this? Because there's some. I saw you sent me some videos. I'm like, that could be him. Well, that could be him too. Boy, this is really this. Oh, no, it's definitely NBA Youngboy. It's definitely NBA Youngboy. And he's definitely going to be one of the ones that they put out there. He's kind of like the Tupac of this era. And I know people don't hate me.

28:19 I know I heard the reaction. What I mean is what Tupac was to our generation, he is to their generation. And I see it. I mean, I can see it happening that he'll be one of those kind of figures like that with Tupac. That here's his scary, angry young black man. Well, he has a whole shop and merch. And he's got all kinds of stuff going on. He's one of the biggest stars out right now. Unbelievable. He's at the level of to that generation. His slogan is never broke again. Is that his thing? Never broke again. And they, like I said, they're playing this online game of murder.

29:02 It's kind of like Squid Game in a way, or either, what's the other movie, Hunger Games? It's the cross between that. It's a real, it's really morbid, is what it is. But it's just tragic, is what it is. Tragic. Yeah, because you got to understand you're hanging a big bag of money out here. And I'm not excusing them for doing it, though. But I'm just saying, considering the circumstances, you know, it's understandable. Even though I don't agree with it, we're broke. We don't have any money. No out. opportunity. In their mind, of course, there's always opportunity, but in their mind, from their paradigm, they're looking from is like, all we got to do is play this death game.

29:44 And then you factor in this term that I've started saying is they're passively suicidal. In a way, you know, it's just that I don't care if I live or I die. So let's play. Okay. So, again, not yet the press mode, but you're getting me there. I'm sorry, but now we like I said, with Charlemagne and T.I., you heard him 88 crime bill, 94 crime bill. They see it. And the crazy thing about it is T.I. is one of the biggest trapper rappers there was. And for people who don't know what trapping is, that's selling of narcotics. So he's one of these biggest people, you know what I'm saying, that made money off it in his era.

30:28 But you know what? This is also their reality. You know, it's like, oh, I made it up here and I'm still alive. And all these young boys are doing this. And we'll see who survives. I mean, there's also a very morbid way that he's even looking at the situation. But the point I was trying to make was with T.I., Joe Biden would be your number one enemy because he's the one trying to throw you in jail for your rest of your life with his crime being correct. But you say he's a good guy with stuff on him. It's unbelievable. Let's go ahead and get to the second part of this clip. Man, you got some bad shit on. I say it all the time. Joe Biden has done worse things to black people than Donald Trump ever had. For real. Hell yeah, man.

31:11 The 88 crack laws. Educate me, Lily. When he passed the 88, he did the 88 crack laws with Strom Thurmond. Strong Thurman was a motherfucking racial segregationist from South Carolina. Who was he down with? What's he doing? He was Obama. The Rock's vice president. The Rock vice president. The 88 crack laws. Think about it. 88 crack laws. Everybody knows crack was in the black community more than anywhere. So now it's 88 crack laws that gave you more time for crack than it did powder cocaine. That was systemically done because they knew who was running around with the 20s of rocks in their pockets. Yeah, absolutely. Then you fast forward six years later, the 94 crime bill that he called the Biden bill.

31:50 Now, what's the 94? The 94 crime bill was what they were so mad about Hillary over, and Hillary wasn't even in the administration when that shit went down. You know what I'm saying? She was just the first lady. She was just Bill Clinton's old lady. But the 94 crime bill basically is what they say started mass incarceration. You know what I'm saying? It just gave out all of these harsh sentences. Yeah, I know. What year was that? 94. My dad did 29 years. He came home, like in the middle of that. He came home one time about 14 years and he came in. And he just went right back in. But his whole generation is in jail. And listen, we all make mistakes, but he will not even say that it was a mistake. You ask him now, he'll say the 94 crime bill didn't cause mass incarceration. I like just, hey, what year did that cut the 94 crime bill come out?

32:37 But 1894. Yeah, for those who are, well, it could be. For those who are confused, Strom Thurmond was a devout Democrat who they were talking about. So is Joe Biden. Of course. Of course. But we know the end of the story is Charlemagne went on to say, we got to elect Biden over Trump. And like I said, this is not me caping for 45. This is me showing, how do you say all that you heard in the last two clips, go on and on about it, say it's on him. He won't apologize. Even say that Trump did better things, or what did he say? Better for black people or not as bad as Joe Biden.

33:14 The title of the title on the video on YouTube is Joe Biden has done way worse to black people than Donald Trump ever has. That's a quote from Charlemagne. But then go on to tell you, no, you got to vote for, you got to vote for Biden. Well, where's the outrage from black America against Charlemagne? Oh, it's bubbling. I mean, that's the whole thing about the go-along, get along gang. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And he's feeling the pressure, but I'm telling people, I'm warning people about Charlemagne. He has his way of doing all this big talking. And we've heard it from Karen Hunter and everybody else. They go on these rants about how bad the Democrats are in, but the punchline is, but still vote Democrat.

33:59 Right. So this next clip, this is post-election, and he's still frustrated, even though he's Joe Biden told him, you're not black if you don't vote for me. And I want people to understand that. He didn't say you're not black if you don't vote. He said, you're not black if you don't vote for me. That's right. That's not the damnedest things to say to somebody. And Charlemagne went on press runs and you're saying excusing him. And, you know, well, you. he's that kind of thing that we heard on the last show, or I think it was the lost tapes with Bill Maher, where he's just too comfortable. He's too comfortable. This thing where he Bill Maher dropped the N-word. It's amazing how they took up for him.

34:42 But I digress. I want to get into this next clip. And this is Charlemagne showing his frustration after Biden being elected. Man, where's Trump? Yeah, this motherfucker. They feel like they would rather get it raw. Like, you know what? At least we know where that motherfuckers are gassing us up, lying to us, promising us didn't deliver. Like, I cannot wait to see, and I'm already watching it. I'm watching Democrats start the campaign. They're already like, Hillary, you got to go out there and vote. Like, democracy depends on it. I'm like, when y'all gonna start governing like democracy depends on it.

35:22 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So he's once again, this, then this is why I'm doing this: is this cycle's about to kick back up again? They have to do it for the midterms. Yeah. And when it's all said and done, I want to see if Charlamagne keeps the same energy that he has now. And this is after he said what he said about Kamala Harris being who's the real president. Was it her or what is Joe Manchin in Seneca? I think her name is Senna. Sienna? Sienna? I think it's something. Cinema. Cinema. Cinema. Cinema. Yeah. So the two people that didn't go along with the Democrats, he said that they were the real president and vice president.

36:04 He had to come back and apologize for that. So I'm just telling people, don't get all excited. Don't start, oh, you know, getting all, oh, Charlamagne's on our side now. No, we've seen this repeatedly from him that he will say, and he's allowed. He's allowed from the Boulet to say, and the Democratic Party did it. Hey, you know your lines. Now you can't say Joe Biden's a bad guy. You can say what he did, but you know, at the end of the punchline is vote blue, no matter who. That's the punchline for everything. And so the fact that Charlamagne being for South Carolina and

36:45 we know what South Carolina meant to Joe Biden and his election from Clyborne, we have to go back and revisit the South Carolina voters and their grade on Biden's presidency. Over two months now in office, President Biden is getting some high remarks from voters. Our new ABC News Ipsus poll finds 72% approve of his handling of the pandemic, 60% approve of his handling of the economy. But there are morning signs for his agenda as majorities of Americans disapprove of his job on immigration and gun violence.

37:21 So tonight we return to the state that saved Joe Biden's primary campaign in 2020, South Carolina, to hear directly from voters there about where the president is meeting expectations and where he may be missing the mark. Here's ABC's Devon Dwyer. We began in the heart of South Carolina, the capital, Columbia. Democratic voters here were critical to saving Joe Biden's primary campaign. Now they're looking to him to deliver. We need to act not tomorrow, not a year from now, but today. Lawrence Nathaniel was founder of the group Black Lives Matter, South Carolina. Last year, he led protests demanding racial justice after the death of George Floyd. When I seen something wrong, I wanted to make it right.

38:02 So I wanted to go out there and focus on how just to make it right. Black Lives Matter. Nathaniel, who supported businessman Tom Steyer in the primary, says he's happy with President Biden, but wants to see more help for low-income neighborhoods like this one, where Black Lives Matter is renovating a church into a community center. What are you trying to do? Build change and bring hope for people in this community and show that Black Lives Matter is more than just about a protest. If you had five minutes with President Biden today, what would you tell him? There are people out here that's still hurting and that needs help and that needs to make sure that they could trust you with our president of the United States. Yeah, don't hold your breath. And this is post-election. This is crazy.

38:45 What were they thinking? It's two points I want to make right quick. One, they're renovating present tense. Not this church has been renovated because we know Black Lives Matter. You're saying taking in millions, if not billions of dollars. But this church down here is still being renovated. Present tense. And then two, when did Black Lives Matter start letting men speak for them? Yeah, good point. Very good point. Pushing them out front. Interesting. It's two reasons they're doing this. One, to get the stench off of them.

39:29 To blame men to blame men for it. Well, just two, they understand. I think they heard some things from 2020. They looked at the numbers. You heard what Tucker said at the end of his clip about black men. The Republicans are about to go full-fledged. And I want to say Republicans, the conservatives, because we got to divide the two up. I say that I've been talking to some people around the Hill Country. I think Allen West, as an example, has a very good shot at becoming governor of Texas. They're about to go full-fledged black men for the Republicans. Now, I'll say this again. Yes. Thank you, please. Don't be confused just because there's an R.

40:13 Exactly. No, tangibles, tangibles. But if they can bump that number up from 500 billion to the trillion and a few other things that they could address, they could interest a lot of black men to their cause. Not me, because I'm a single issue voter over here. It's tangibles/slash atonement. And I got a lot of blowback just for a quick second that people are like, oh, I can't believe you're going to sell your vote, Mo. You've always been very clear about this. I guess the last time I brought it up, when I made it very clear where I stand, I'm not asking anybody for anything.

40:58 I'm not out here, you know what I'm saying, begging anybody for anything. But if you want my vote, which I understand the value of my vote, and my price is atonement. And if you don't want to offer that, then we don't have anything to talk about. But that's just me. But there's a lot of people like me that feel this way. And it's people sell their vote all the time. I'm not saying I'm selling mine, but for cheaper gas prices or lower taxes. Let me just help you with this controversy. So when you say, I want atonement, that we've discussed this, it's like you want someone to say, I'm sorry. And then I think you would like a trillion dollars to be signed. No?

41:39 Well, they already said they're sorry. And this is another clip for another day. In the apology that the nation made to black people, quote unquote, ADOS people. Let me clarify. Yes. It's like, yeah, we're sorry, but this by no means say that we hold any accountability for what happened. What? Right. So you want a German style thing towards the Jews? Pretty much. Yeah. Okay. And by the way, I've talked to a lot of my friends about this specifically and spoken specifically about atonement. And it's a very interesting reaction and response you get if you say atonement and then a trillion dollars and then they'll vote for you.

42:21 And the first thing they say is, well, shit, yeah, a trillion. We can do a trillion. We've got a trillion. We can do a trillion for anything we want. So the modern monetary theory, that part has actually gotten, I think, easier. The hardest part may be to say, you know, we're sorry. And yeah, we effed up. But that's the part. That's the difference between atonement and reparations. Yes. Reparations is me asking you to repair me. Not you, but the proverbial you to repair me. Please repair. No, no. I'm over here. I'm doing my own thing. Don't bother me unless you're here to atone with me. It's a total different, that's a total different concept. And I want people to understand that because

43:04 it has to come from the point of we realize that, you know, this has impacted you this way. And it's not that touchy-feely. Oh, we want to. No. Just realize what they're saying, the effect of these things happening. And the crazy thing is, if Congress put together a bill and said, and with this, we atone. You know, here's who's guilty. I don't think any American would have a problem with it. That's the point. It's that, why is it such a big deal? And we'd be like, this is great. We end this part of the conversation. Gosh, that's helpful. The reason why they don't want this to happen is because this is a political wedge.

43:47 It's beautiful. Why get rid of it? Well, the Republicans can't come out and say this because they're scared. I'm not saying it will happen, but this is their fear that they might lose a certain base, a portion of their base with this policy. So doubtful. It's so doubtful. They're such idiots. I really don't think that. And notice I didn't say conservatives. I said Republicans. They're doing the calculations to say, will this gain be worth our loss? And I understand. I understand the political calculus. I get it. And the Democrats are saying, well, if we give them this, then that makes them equal to every other

44:27 colored person. And now their loyalties to what's best for them. Well, that's not what we can dangle over their head. I think that's the real problem the Democrats would have, Democrat Party, is who's black. You know, that's the conversation they don't want to have. You mean Barack Obama actually doesn't get any of this? You know, that would be kind of weird. And it upsets their base because now it's like, oh, you did something for them. But like I said, more so, this will free people from the racial paradigm that they operate in to say, okay, the boogeyman's over there. He's going to get you. You know, Republicans over there, he's going to get you. Now it becomes, okay, we atoned.

45:09 Now, okay, who has the best policies? And that's a very lose-lose for them because it's like, okay, we gave you the money and now we got to compete. Like, what is this? You know what? We want something fair? I don't understand. This is bad for business trying to give you something fair. Well, I back you on the atonement. I love it. And people respond very well when I say it's about forget the money. Everyone can agree on the money. It's atonement. Like, yeah, you know, we need to do that. If we just do that, and I'll write a check myself. All my buddies say this. It's like, yeah, that makes sense. It makes nothing but these are conservatives and many Republicans. So, you know, I don't know what base they're all worried about, but they're chicken shit, really.

45:51 And when we speak, we speak about the party leaderships that don't want to have this happen. I mean, people on the ground, I mean, they have different varying views one way or the other. But for the most part, the parties is like, we don't really, we'd rather just duke it out the way we've been doing business for, you know. I'd love to hear from our Jewish producers what their communities would be thinking if there was atonement and a big check a la the Germans for the Jews. I'd be interested to know what the vibe is. If they could say, oh, that's good for them too. Or are they going to say, well, it's a lot of money? I don't know. Or it's not comparable. Or I don't know. I'm curious. I have no idea. I should ask some of my friends.

46:34 I would love to hear any feedback. Yeah, but now we got to go back to South Carolina. And this is another voter, and they give their grade. We traveled east along I-26 to the city of Orangeburg, where tradition has it, the road to the White House for Democrats cuts through. You initially backed Bill de Blasio for president. Have you been happy with what you've seen from Joe Biden so far? I have been very happy. He's presidential. He has given us someone to look up to and say, this is our leader. He and his family. Mayor Michael Butler, the first black mayor in Orangeburg history, calls Biden a savior. We needed somebody to take us through the Red Sea. And we understood that

47:15 he would be the one that takes us across. Is there anything that's disappointed you so far? Anything you might kind of give him a little nudge? I would just give him a little nudge about the borders. Just be mindful of the rules at the border. But in the shadow of the city's monument to Confederate war dad is John C. Calhoun, Butler praised Biden for his decency. I would just tell him, President Biden, continue to do what you're doing, build on principles and things that we've stood for, and make America become greater. I wonder how this voter feels now. No, but this is after the election.

48:00 Two seconds, just two months, two months after the election. Yeah, two months after this election. And this I had to be careful because the older people, I get it, the closer they were to actual state-sponsored segregation and racism. I get it. So they're the most fearful. And this is, I want to explain this one more time: how the Democrats run their game, in my opinion. They act as the wall between the racist Republicans. And this is the thing. Like, if you wanted us to get out of the way, you had to deal with those racist Republicans over there.

48:38 And you know what they're about. If you heard his lingo, he said Joe Biden was a savior and that he guided us through the Red Sea. And that's him allusion to saying Joe Biden was Moses in the Bible. Are you serious? Well, I don't know who this guy was. He sounded like. He's the mayor of a small town in South Carolina. That was the mayor. That was the mayor. Well, he got the programming. Another black man. Now we're two for two on this one clip. Now you couldn't find a black man. Is it anything? Anyone who? who has something to say about it that we would like? What's that? Well, I don't know. I mean, do you have any examples of what?

49:23 Of any of these voters two months afterwards saying, well, this is no good. We can already see it coming down Broadway. Well, let's go to number 11. As we pulled into historic downtown Charleston, we passed Mother Emmanuel AME Church, where in 2015, a white supremacist shot and killed nine people at a Bible study. Days before our visit, the U.S. House passed a bill to close the so-called Charleston background check loophole. When they were checking Dela Roose record, they had just a lot more days than my wife would have still been here. Reverend Anthony Thompson's wife, Myra, was murdered by Roof, who was able to obtain a gun after a delay in his background check.

50:06 Reverend Thompson and his son, Anthony Thompson Jr., have been pleading with Republicans to join with President Biden to strengthen the law. One day, it could be your family. It could be your child. It could be your wife. It could be your best friend. You know, you just don't know how I feel until it happens to you. So why wait for it to happen to you? Anybody close to you before you decide you're going to do something about it? The Thompsons say they have deep faith in Biden to bridge political divides, both deeply moved by his compassion after the Charleston massacre and commitment to keeping his word. When we talk about criminal justice reform, you know, I think these are eras that are important to particularly the African-American community, the black community, because we have been impacted by these things.

50:49 And so for him coming out already addressing those issues, I think that's very important. And that just speaks to his leadership. Oh, yeah, that's the term we got to look out for. Criminal justice reform. That's the one. But that means, that could mean anything. Of course. Because if you hear it from through their ears, that means, are you going to fix what's the problem with the police? And from pro law enforcement, that's going to mean, oh, you're going to fix the problem with how police are perceived. Yeah. And you understand how ill-equipped they are. So it's a nifty little term that they're floating out there, but even this guy, his wife was killed in the church shooting by Dylan Roof.

51:33 And that was back, I think, 2014, 15. I think so. It's getting a little fuzzy, but Obama did nothing. No. Obama, we had a black, quote-unquote, black, I mean, very loose with that term, president then, and you couldn't get any movement on this bill. And now you think Biden's going to do it for you? And it's once again, hey, we haven't lost faith. We need to stop having faith in politicians. They're not deities. They work for us. Yeah, that's the way it's supposed to be. But you hear how they speak. It's just like, oh, you know, my wife was killed. And, you know, but I still have faith.

52:17 He's going to do something for us. Well, the thing is, this is so much of the world is like this. It doesn't matter what you talk about. They just trust and believe. And no matter what the evidence is against it. Because they're not listening to podcasts. That's the problem. You say that in jest, but that's true. Seriously. If you hear this stream of just information of, you know, everything's going to be all right. Everything's better. The savior's here. You know, we don't need to worry about anything. And the crazy thing about it, Strom Thurmond was from South Carolina, who Joe Biden used to pile up with. And these people don't, I mean, pile around with. So it's, it's,

53:02 do y'all not know what's going on? And I want to make it very clear. These people that they picked wasn't just regular people out the street. These were people that were in Biden. They were community leaders as well. Community leaders. And they were in these town halls asking Biden questions. So it wouldn't just random people they picked out the street. Right. These are people that's supposed to be politically knowledgeable. Well, they are. They're doing exactly what the Democratic Party wants them to do. Yes. That's exactly right. And we could go ahead and wrap up with this set with part five. Faith that doesn't, that is not accompanied by action is dead. And Biden, faith is certainly not dead. You asked President Biden about that. Yeah, I did.

53:48 My question is, what is your faith? And how would you use your faith and make a decision for our nation? Have you seen faith from him so far? He just passed the $1.9 trillion stimulus bill into law. And that's going to do what? That's faith because he's answering compassionate Biden the needs of the people. Yeah. Behind Reverend Thompson. Thompson's church, a place of reflection, a memorial garden constructed by the community in memory of Myra. It's here, Thompson says he reflects on divisions in America and the need for forgiveness. People are trying to find a way to get peace from their burdens, and they just don't know how to do it.

54:28 What to do? They think anger is going to be the thing to do, revenge is going to be the thing to do it, but it never happens. It just gets worse. We, as people, as a nation, you know, have to get past all the things that happened in the past. You know, like slavery, you know, like racism, discrimination, segregation. A prayer that forgiveness and healing will begin in our families and take hold in our politics. Forgiveness? Yes. You know what? What really? Go ahead. Go ahead. No, this is this thing where we forget. And I brought this up with all the shooting cases that we covered.

55:12 Immediately, we forgive. We forgive. And I get it. I mean, maybe these people are better people than me. But if Joe Biden had promised me we were going to take care of this bill, you're saying that would have protected my wife. And it's kind of hypothetical, but I mean, if this bill was in place, your wife wouldn't be dead kind of scenarios. I would hold you to that. And until you've done that for me, until I've seen it done, I will hold you accountable because you made a promise to me. But this thing of we have to forgive and we have to look past, and it's kind of like they're kind of giving Joe Biden up, well, we know who he is. Let's forgive him. Well, see, it's the exact opposite. That's the exact what I'm hearing is the exact opposite of what you're saying: atonement.

55:54 And that it's the then the opposite is nah, just forgive him, right? Because it's politically advantageous. Yeah. What always makes me sad, Mo, is, and of course, I learned from you, we know that one of the propaganda methods of choice is through the pastors, through the reverends. Yes. It kind of has a double whammy effect because at the same time, particularly when you're talking about faith, it destroys faith in the church because people do figure it out.

56:30 You know, not everybody stays programmed all the time, but when people say, hey, hold on a second, this my pastor or reverend sold me a bill of goods, that destroys faith and faith. Yes, which I'm glad you brought that up because it just takes us back to the clip of the church becoming a Black Lives Matter communist headquarters. I mean, like, now you're replacing faith with the religion of communism. Yeah. Gosh. So evil. And it destroys people's will. It destroys their, you know, the one thing we shouldn't have faith in men. And then for a man of faith to try to put the faith in men is even more troubling.

57:14 Yeah. And that's an excellent point. Yeah, yes, exactly. It's like, wow, he's not your new demigod. You know, it's like, no. But that's how these old voters, and I don't mean old voters by age, but people that's so bait into the system. And it could be young people that they've just been in the voting process, but they've been in it for a long time. And it's just, this is how it goes. You know, one step is better than no step. Right. And it's very, and this is when they start taking trinkets and tokens. And, oh, we had a black, we had a black vice president, you know, and we're going to get a black, you know, a black Supreme Court justice.

57:54 I mean, that's that's progress, right? And for a grown man in the first clip to say he gives us somebody to look up to. Oh, it was the second clip. I forget which one, but the mayor. Yeah. He was like, this gives, this gives us something to someone to look up to. You are grown, you are past a grown man. You're on the other side of grown and you're looking up to another man. And this is what these young men are looking at. I mean, I talk to these young men. I mean, I'm talking about 20, I mean, mid to mid to late 20s, early 30s, and they find it just as disgusting, if not more than I do. Because it's like, listen to these defeated. I'm just saying, it's not about age.

58:34 It's about are you defeated or not? They sound so defeated and don't have any fight in them left. And that's why you see so many people becoming open to looking at the other side. And the Republicans/slash conservatives know that. That was a reason why Tucker put that in his segment right before the State of the Union. He said a lot of black men, he said that I didn't say that. And then he even divided it. by gender as well. So do you think that that's political of Tucker to be doing? Yes, very. Yeah, it seems that way too.

59:12 This is a problem I have with him. Well, I don't see it as a problem because what that shows is it's an old guard and new guard situation going on in the Republican Party. And I think you're speaking to this that forget what we've been doing. We need to, you know, rethink our strategy. How do we get to the 100, 270 electoral college votes? And being that, the Republicans understand the power of the negative vote. And it's not lost on me either. A black person staying home is a win for them.

59:54 Yeah. Because they look at it as, oh, you would have, if you would have voted, you would have voted Democratically. Right. I mean, for the Democrats. So they're looking at like, well, we can keep you home at least by feeding you factual information, but puts the Democrats in a bad light. That works for us. But if they can flip you, that's a plus two in their column. So they know, like, wow, we can start. I mean, you saw the numbers for Trump last election. Black women were up, black men were up. You know, it's, and with the men, you got to look at it is if that man's married, he could bring you plus four.

1:00:31 Because say if they flip me for, say, instance, I didn't vote. I mean, say if I was a Democratic voter, yeah, and me and my wife voted for Democrats, right? And I say, you know, honey, you know, look, Joe Biden didn't really do anything for us, you know, that kind of thing. And we go two off the board for the Democrats and didn't go two for the Republicans. That's plus four. Yeah. That's political calculus. You know what I'm saying? I'm not mad at it, but me hearing that and his opening, I mean, his speech before the State of the Union lets me know that they're switching up their strategy. But they have become correct. I mean, you don't get any freebies just because the Democrats suck either.

1:01:14 It's like, it's tangibles. Yeah, we'll see. I have no great hope. Oh, well, I got something later for you. Okay. I'm always ready to be surprised and delighted. All right. So now we blowback is not only on Biden, it's also causing the divide between black voters and lawmakers. While many activists voiced their displeasure with President Biden's Atlanta trip to address voting rights, several black Democratic leaders accompanied the president to lend their support. The Biden administration's handling of voting rights has seemingly created a wedge between the two sides, a wedge that could produce dire consequences for Democrats in the upcoming elections.

1:01:58 In the past few days, black legislators have had to balance supporting Biden's efforts while not making disparaging remarks about activists' frustrations over the Biden administration's lack of progress on voting rights. Congressional black copyright chair, Representative George Beatty, rejected the notion that the president's trip to Atlanta was more about symbolism than substance. What I don't agree with is that this is a photo op. This is taking some of the most powerful members who have been standing up for voting rights now. If we were only going to Atlanta and that was it, but we have a commitment from the president of the United States that he is about change.

1:02:42 He is about voting rights. But was Biden's delayed public endorsement of eliminating the filibuster enough to chill the frustrations of voting rights advocates and justify the unrelenting support Biden has received from black lawmakers? Now, hold on a second. Is there a single black American who thinks that voting rights will help them in any way? Are they really buying into this nonsense? This buys into the fear. Once again, if you don't vote for us, those dirty, racist, nasty Republicans is going to have you taken, been paying poll taxes and doing literacy tests at the poll again.

1:03:24 Get in line now. Right. But is there no reading of the simple proposed legislation? It's fear. Fear. It's the lizard brain. They're activating your lizard brain of if you don't vote for us, you know what can come. Right. So that's just triggering the trauma that's deep, deep, deep. At the same time, to say we had the highest turnout in history. Yeah. That's what they told us happened in Georgia. At the same time, voter suppression. No, that's your cognitive dissonance. That's exactly what that is. It's thick. It's so thick. It's very thick.

1:04:09 But it's based in a place of fear of that's why they keep bringing up lynching and George Floyd is the need. This is the knee. I forgot how Biden put it. We understand basically that illusion that, you know, this is the knee on the neck of all of you. I'm the only man that can fix it. I'm your great savior. I'm here to restore the soul of the nation. That kind of thing. It's that he's tapping into. And once again, going back to older shows, Joe Biden knows black people. He's hung out with corn pop. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's right. What am I saying?

1:04:52 Of course. So he knows the time. He knows the ones in his age range and political dealings. He doesn't understand this new group that's out here that was under ADOS. Now it's kind of shifting to FBA due to some, and even that, once ADOS did that, I'm not crapping on him, but I just got to be honest. Once they did that political move of that vote down ballot. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, yes. It was all good.

1:05:29 You know what I'm saying? It was, we're not voting. We don't see any tangibles. We're not voting. And then here you come with this vote down ballot thing that kind of tarnished their name. It's a very, what's the word I'm looking for? Calculated? Stringent. It's a very stringent requirement to meet the litmus text for these people that are tangibles or nothing. And I'm including me. If you give any inclination, any inclination that you will fold to the Democratic Party, you're done. You're rendered null and void. That's how stringent it is.

1:06:08 So that tarnished their name. So the movement is kind of, you know, harnessing a different name or a different identity. It's the same people. Now, that hashtag is what really had the power. It's like MAGA. I mean, you hear the same thing with MAGA. It's like, we'll move on past Trump. You know, you talk when Trump was trying to push the jab. It was like, boo, you know what I'm saying? No, anything. It's amazing because there's two sides that are looking at this political system and say, you don't really serve us.

1:06:46 You don't really work from us, work for us. And you see it on the conservative side to rhinos, and you're seeing it from the Democratic side or the I'll just speak. I'll just speak more specifically for quote unquote black people that you don't have anything in store for us. So I don't come looking for me in November. You know, that's the kind of thing. But I just want to point out there's some interesting things going on in this landscape. And I'm just going to bring it up first. But before we do, we have to go back. This is about Steve Bannon.

1:07:24 And this is a throwback clip from show 59. And this is him speaking on the American dream and how he grew up. The Bell, you know, my grandfather and father, I think, the only two guys in the history of the Bell system to be both 50-year employees. My grandfather worked there 50 years as a lineman and a PBX guy. And my dad was 50 years, started in the sewer pulling cable and worked for 50 years. So as a father and son, worked 50 years for the phone company. So you had these big institutions. You know, I was fortunate enough to be raised in a great time in America, right? The 50s and 60s. But you believed in these big institutions, the Catholic Church,

1:08:04 the phone company. And these were permanent pictures in your life. And it's kind of that stability. I came from a neighborhood that was a little bit tough, but it was not like it was a very solid, great background. As I go throughout the world and meet these very wealthy people I deal with all the time and see their kids. The greatest thing you can give a kid is that kind of basic core, loving family that's there in rock solid. So the family, the church, the community, the phone company, these are institutions. And so the institutions are everything. It's a very institutional life when you think about it, and quite hierarchical, but it gives you a set framework that you can grow and get to be an adult. And there's a real sense of

1:08:50 something that's solid there, something that's real. What I like about. about our show, and I listen in the car a lot to um urban radio and all this on serious XM. They would never play a clip of Steve Bannon unless it's like, here's an evil white man to listen to, right? I really, I really appreciate it. It's like you get it from the whole spectrum, you know, and it's not everyone is because it's just as racist, you know. I hear a lot on urban, what is it, what is the channel? There's two channels, or urban one or something like that. But I don't know, but I hear a lot of real racist stuff. It's like, come on, man.

1:09:31 Like, you know, everybody can be in this conversation. And the real racist part of it is to say that, quote-unquote, black people can't hear this information because, you know, they might be tricked. That's the real thing. Like, we have to buffer it. We have to buffer them from the real information. And it's not only black people that this is done for. We saw this with the whole coup thing. Yep. That we can't give them the real numbers because they might misinterpret it the wrong way. And that was worldwide. Germany did that. All kinds of countries did. Oh, no, we can't give you the numbers because conspiracy theorists will run with it. You won't understand. Shut up, slave. And that's what you're hearing. And the absence of a variety of ideas, but the problem is now with the independent media and with platforms where you can hear different, you can go on YouTube or just different alt platforms

1:10:25 and Google things and hear differing a variety of opinions. And what Steve Bannon here, it resonates with young, specifically black men because all they want is a family. These last four years when Trump was going, was here, money was aflowing, credit was afloating. You know what I'm saying? Me personally, I made the most money I ever made in my life in those four years. And then it starts like as soon as it changes, it's like you're fired. Out of a job. What a difference a day makes, huh? Wow. Yeah. No, just so put that in perspective. And like he said, they grew up in a tough, rough community.

1:11:08 That's kind of what black people want. They want their own. We don't want forced integration. I think that's a very antiquated idea. Of course, you know what I'm saying? We're open to integrate with anybody. I mean, look at this podcast. We choose to talk to each other. It's not like somebody said, let's just throw two people together and see what happened. Like that was the Barack Obama-Bruce Springsteen project. And that's why we beat them to a pulp. It's over. Get out of my wake here. Sorry, Boston Berry. Boston Berry. Hey, it's the Boston Berry show, everybody. How you doing? So, so that's that's the ideal thing that these young men want.

1:11:49 And these men there are listening to what the Republicans have to offer. It's like, hmm, I remember four years ago, like I said, money was plentiful. I bought my house in those four years. I mean, a lot of great things happened in those four years. And it's like, I don't care who the people are, long as we're seeing results, sure. You know, Ness, this leads me to this new term I heard cropping up. And this is Steve Bannon. He goes on Jason Whitlock's show and he rolls out this new term, inclusive nationalism. Inclusive nationalism and this kind of expansionary populism is the political wave of the future. And it's something that the cultural left cannot cannot stop.

1:12:33 Inclusive nationalism. I love that phrase. I love that thought. Is that, you know, we've kind of demonized nationalism, and I think it's wrong. And I love what you're, is this something you see the Republican Party talking about? Like, hey, we want to be inclusive in our nationalism. I just love that phrase. The Republican Party as the party? No, you don't. But you're seeing the MAGA movement, the American First, some place like Warren. And we understand because we study deeply what the left's doing. The thing they fear the most, and why their writers will tell you this, is when people understand that populism and nationalism can be and must be inclusive.

1:13:17 And you're seeing this take place. And you're seeing this in the Rio Grande Valley. You're seeing this in South Texas. You're seeing them on the Hispanic vote that Trump did so well in 2020 and we're doing better today. Hmm. Have you heard this term? No. And the other term was expansive populism. I like that one too. No, I've heard neither of these. So they're rolling it out. They're going to, and I think Whitlock is on Blaze, which is owned by, I know, at least ran by Glenn Beck. Glenn Beck, yeah. I just met him yesterday. yesterday. And the thing about Glenn Beck was he was saying a lot of truth on Fox with that chalkboard. But that's like, we got to get you out TV. Well, that's interesting you bring that up because we talked about that.

1:14:02 I said, I got to tell you, and we talked about it on the interview. I said, I got to tell you, I loved it when you were on Fox because we just sit there and go, all right, when does he get to Soros? We know it ends with Soros. And then we also spoke specifically about MoFax on the show yesterday. Of course. Yeah. I don't remember. I remember exactly how it came. No, it was actually. It was about the core, the core principle of this show, Malcolm's words. And bringing up Malcolm, there was the black nationalism. And that was the more of let's build them within our own. Let's, you know, not being exclusive.

1:14:43 That's not the point of it. But if this is our country, we need to have an nationalistic views of what this nation can do for us. Well, nationalism has been given a nasty stench by the media and by they started with us. I mean, that was almost a terroristic term when Malcolm was using it. Good point. Good point. Yeah. You're always first. Stop being first. You would love not to be first. I know. I know. But what it does is it hard, it battle readies us for whatever is to come.

1:15:25 It's a healthy cynicism. You know, well, you know, I mean, that's why we can say these things and laugh about these things. By the way, just before I forget, Beck is an ally, man. Beck is my ally. To take it from me, this guy, he's a good guy. I really, I was impressed by him. The fact that he gave Whitlock, you know, his, not gave him Whitlock earned his platform, but he allowed him to have creative control. Of course, I mean, you're the boss, you know what I'm saying? You had to allow people creative control if it's not your own. But I mean, what him and Uncle Jimmy does over there is the very things that could be seen as problematic, but he

1:16:07 knows Whitlock probably wouldn't sign a deal that he didn't have that because that's why he left mainstream media in the first place just to have his own freedom. And, you know, he went a couple different places and I think he found the best fit. And he has one of the best shows going right now. And he has a lot of interest. He gives platform to a lot of varying voices and a lot of interesting voices. So big outs to Whitlock for that and for what he's doing. And you wouldn't have heard this conversation anywhere else that we are what we're hearing here. And this is part two.

1:16:43 You're starting to see it. The Ras Mussum poll. Look, if the Ras Mussum poll is correct and 33% of African Americans will vote for a generic Republican renovation Democrat, American politics changes forever. That's the power of the African American community as far as voting goes. Okay. This is a tectonic placeship, Jason, potentially greater than 1932. And we have to be inclusive because nationalism is inclusive. Remember, nationalism doesn't care about you. And populism doesn't care about your race. It doesn't care about your ethnicity. It doesn't care about your religion. It doesn't care about your sexual preference. It cares about one thing. Are you an American citizen? As an American citizen, we understand you have obligations to serve in the military, to pay your taxes.

1:17:28 Okay. But American citizenship has to have some premium value. And right now it doesn't. The deplorables, the working class's country, essentially pay the taxes and they also keep the country going as far as the military goes. And also what Burke called the underpinnings of civic society. Coaching the liberals, building the churches, going to the Kiwanis Club, everything that is America, the self-organizing entity that is America. It's on the shoulders of the deplorables. Interesting. I wish he hadn't brought in deplorables because that makes it so political again.

1:18:06 You know what's interesting is that I've been following and talking with a lot of young men, 28 to 35. I'd say 90% are white. And these are the Bitcoiners. And because I'm very worried about the nationalism not being a term you can use and it being all, you know, all kind of incredibly politicized. But they have a nationalism. And it's interesting because I was watching a YouTube video the other day and someone who's one of the OG Bitcoiners was talking about Bitcoin being America 2.0 and everything I I'm seeing from the food intelligence movement with connecting

1:18:50 ranchers to directly to stores and/or customers. Bitcoin seems to be some kind of common thing that is worth looking at time and time again because it's a bonding agent somehow. And so to be a nationalist, we might want to consider saying we want to be America 2.0, but we want to, we have to change something very fundamental. And honestly, of all the shows we've done, at the root of it, at the root of the problem is money. And it's the way the central banks operate and how the Federal Reserve, specifically in America, operates.

1:19:30 I believe that is actually the root of all problems. Yes. And if you can start to flatten that, you know, or, you know, saying leveling out the distribution or the or the difference, disparity, then these people become closer and closer. And I was warning of this. You're pushing these people into the same corner. When we look at Canada, it's like, hmm, that looks very familiar. I know. And the way that they try to hijack their means of transferring funds and destabilize their own. Block their bank accounts flat out, just blocked them. And I would say to this, that that's how you protest.

1:20:15 You have to make, I am a big supporter of protesting. I'm not for rioting because I think that does more harm to your group than good. I don't think it's beneficial at all, but to make people uncomfortable, hey, we see those horns blocking bridges. Like, look, I don't want to give anybody any ideas, but 20, 30 cars at an airport going around and around and around can make a lot of disruption. To me personally, I've come up with a different strategy because I think it's, you know, and I think luckily we didn't see any trucks drive to DC or anything like that.

1:20:56 I'm kind of against that because you're going to get roused. There's going to be another January 6th. You'll be called names. My plan was this. And I talked about it on no agenda. I said we should just, and we can abuse the Rona for this. Look, you know what? You were right. You were right, elites of the world. You were right about the Rona. We didn't follow the science. We didn't listen to you. We were not really good. So we're going to make amends here and we are going to follow the science. We're going to jump ahead of everything a little bit. And what we're going to do is we're going to have worship science week next week. And during worship science week, because we worship the science, we are going to not drive our trucks at all because we don't want to, you know, heat up the earth over 1.5 degrees centigrade.

1:21:40 So we're not, and actually we're going to do a special promotion. It will be a worship science week for New York. We're going to start there. So New York, you will just not have any, you will not have any trucks driving for you. And if you're hungry, just remember it's science. And that's what we should be doing. And the pilots should be doing it. And you're not allowed to call for a general strike in the United States. It's literally against the law. But I think worship science week, because it's coming anyway, this stuff is, this is just the tip of the iceberg in my mind that the elites, the Illuminati, the Boule, evil itself has in store for us.

1:22:23 And that's the point I was trying to make. And you just highlighted even more that you have to get innovative in how you turn the system against itself. Yes. You know, you don't want me to do something. Okay. And what I was saying about the airport and the cars, you don't have to stop. You don't have to obstruct traffic, but just 20, 50, 100 cars. You know what I'm saying? You go off the exit ramp, you make sure they're gassed up, and you just keep riding around the airport loop. You're not causing any trouble. You know, you're not, as far as obstructing traffic or anything like that, but it's a big inconvenience. And people are going to miss their, people are going to miss their flights. And it's like, okay, now do you see me?

1:23:01 Now do you hear me? That's the thing is like we have to exercise power where we have it and not this wishing of, oh, I wish I had omnipotent power so I could do something. And also don't fund their banks. If you're in chase, take it out. Go to a credit union. Take it out. Only bank with credit unions. Of course. Only bank with credit unions. Of course, that's the point of what I was saying in Canada that not more their techniques, but how they say, you know what? We're going to operate with inside the law. And every time they change the law, they adjust it to make sure they were still inside the law. But it was just very troubling for. for the everyday citizen, and that put pressure on the government. And that's how these things work.

1:23:46 And I just go back to the deplorable thing. I think that was said. Just following Steve Bannon's work, he understands. I think he said that to throw it in. So when you hear that term with this inclusive nationalism, you're supposed to look up. Oh, that's me. Or this is this is kind of, it kind of takes the potency out of it. Ah, about America. A very good point. Yeah. Got it. He's always aware of his. I mean, he's smart. He's smart. He's a very smart dude. Especially when you hear him speak in these town hall meetings. A lot of stuff he was saying. And one was start with your checkbook.

1:24:25 That's the first thing you have to do is when you want to bring about change, you got to start with your checkbook, you know, and funding politicians and funding movements. So I guess we can go and get to 17 now. What we have to do now is have a nationalism that is inclusive, inclusive of American citizens. That you get a special deal because you have all these obligations. And the special deal is we're not going to flood the zone with foreign labor to decrease your labor. We're not going to continue to print money to devalue your dollars. We're not going to sit there and have policies allow a concentration of wealth to the detriment of you that you're paying for. Because remember, all the deficits are paid for by the working class. Inclusive nationalism and this kind of expansionary populism is the political wave of the future.

1:25:11 And it's something that the cultural left cannot stop. And once you get the economic policies right for the minority community, which is really simple, it's not socialism. It's the opposite. It's a piece of the action. It's better wages because we have a more restrictive labor force. It's better wages because you have better training and opportunities, right? It's ownership and actually a carry. You have a carried interest in America. Not just the hedge fund guys have a carried interest in the fund. You as a citizen have a carried interest. You have an economic participation in the growth of this economy. How do you interpret that, Mo? A piece of the action. That's what we want to hear. A piece of the action. He can stop there.

1:25:56 I think he actually detracted from it by then saying, hold on, let me play this again because that was really interesting. Here, what do you say here? Ownership and actually a carry, you have a carried interest. Carried interest. How do you interpret that? We're invested in it. One thing about it, we're invested in this nation and we're not going anywhere. So we want our interest to be, you know, recognized and grow with everybody else's. Listen to this. I want to read the definition to you because he's a banker. He's a former banker, this Bannon cat.

1:26:31 So carried interest is a share of any profits that the general partners of private equity and hedge funds receive as compensation, regardless of whether they contribute any initial funds. How about that? That's how I interpret it. That's how that you will see the proof would be in the pudding. He's saying you don't have to put anything in. You get a carried interest and you get a piece of the action for being a part of it. Not because you put money in it. That's interesting. And he was also speaking about this privilege of being an American because we see in New York and other places now, they're trying to let anybody vote.

1:27:11 It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We're letting people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You blow the border wide open and then you're just going to let anybody vote. And every one of those votes takes away from our political power. Is this still on the table? This everybody votes? Is that really happening? That was in New York. They were saying, it was last I heard. I didn't hear it being shot down. I don't know if it went through or not, but it's still being floated about. And when you hear stuff like that, it's like, huh. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's a direct attack on the political power that you're saying, that quote-unquote black people are saying American on slate, the Senate is a slavery specifically, because you can bring black people with quotes, pips, you know, saying in from other

1:27:58 places, and they don't have the same investment that we have in this country. Right. Right? We're looking for this investment to be materialized. And we're some of the most patriotic, loyal. I mean, not in the sense of like flag waving on 4th of July, eating hot dogs. Actually, actually, I think I've seen that. I have seen that. Flag waving 4th of July. No, that too. But I'm just saying that we're original investors. We invested blood, sweat, and tears into this thing called America. Right. And we're. we're not leaving. And that's the whole thing. Like, oh, leave. Why would the real problem? You know what the real problem is?

1:28:41 Sadly, again, I'm just going to keep hammering this. Well, if you actually had a real carried interest in the United States of America, you'd have a deficit. You'd be losing money. This is the sad thing. It's like you get a piece of the action, but you don't actually want the ownership of the country because that's not working out too well the way it's going right now. We're already receiving that by the time every day our dollar shrinks. Yes, exactly. We're feeling that because a lot of our holdings is in cash. Yeah. And in potential earnings. So. You know what? I was listening to the chairman of the Federal Reserve, Powell, on my way down from Dallas. Not a question about what inflation does to the really poor people and why.

1:29:27 There was nothing about that. It was, by the way, your money's less than it was the day before. I swear to God, Mo, there was all this focus on the poor people of Ukraine and their money and how their money is going to get devalued. It's like, whoa, who are you working for? And once again, this is why we need GBG. If we can give Ukrainian guns. Oh, another thing. Yeah. Oh, yes. Look at them protecting their land. Oh, but you know, not here in America. No, you can't have guns. You're crazy. That's a tangible. Yeah. I'm sure we can't. GBG is a tangible we can live with. I'm sure. Hey, I'm liking this. GBG is a good one. Yeah. Because it allows us to protect ourselves.

1:30:11 Everything I'm about is putting the power in my hands to have control of my destiny. I don't want anybody to figure it out for me, but you know, I'm about this is a currency I have. My vote is a currency. GBG will exchange it. GBG for the newcomers is give blacks guns. This is a Mofax with Adam Curry promotion. We've been running for quite a while now. If you can give it to Ukraine, the Ukraine and their citizens, I'm sure you got some crates sitting around here somewhere that could protect people in their neighborhoods where they feel victimized. Yeah. Yeah. I know. We literally, we, America, literally gave them guns. It's hilarious. It's amazing. Hilarious. All right. Let's go ahead and wrap up with Bannon part four.

1:30:56 Once those policies become clear, we are two-thirds of the nation. We're 70% of the nation. That's why I tell people on the right, why are you sitting there saying insurrection, civil war, forget the breaking the country up going in different directions? We control the country. We just have to understand we control the country. And that's what this great awakening is about. And you're seeing it now in the elites. And by the way, the IBL elites, they all think the same. What you see on cable TV most of the time is pro-wrestling. It's not the thing itself. And this is why I really admire Royce, who gets down to so many core, core, basic issues. But inclusive nationalism will be two-thirds of 70% of

1:31:36 the voting population. And once that starts to hit the polls this November, you're going to see a changed America. And that's why I keep telling people we're going through very turbulent times. But the sunlit uplands are just ahead of us. We just got to keep working. Wow. That's very interesting. Yeah. That's a very interesting narrative he's pushing, or I want to say agenda, but this political idea of inclusive nationalism, it works because one, the inclusive kind of neutralizes nationalism. And the term they're seeing now is white nationalism or white supremacy or, you know, that kind of thing.

1:32:19 It's like, no, it's inclusive. And what is inclusive is what he said is that, you know, everybody gets a piece of action. Yeah. Well, it'll be interesting to see when 45 Savage starts using this term because to me, Bannon is clearly working for Trump 2024 now. Yes. Clearly. And he's got his head on straight. This is a very smart move. Very smart. And I think, you know, it's, and just to add one more part to this, what really ruined the Democrats was the ice cube thing. Yeah. That wait to the election is over. That got so much visibility even to the where's Cube Dow, man?

1:33:01 Is he standing up and jumping around or has he been silenced? I mean, he has, he has to know his place. You know what I'm saying? And we want to operate still in Hollywood. I mean, you had to be willing to leave Hollywood. But the fact when he did that and the Democrats said, wait until after the election, that really put a put them in a bad position because it's like, okay, it's after the election. What do you have for us? And but has that come? I don't, I don't, has that moment come? Hey, what do you have? have for us? Or is that just the accuracy of everything we're hearing? Okay, yeah. This is what it did was that put it put it on Front Street for even it became a meme.

1:33:41 It became a trending story. Right. So now everybody's looking where people that kind of would turn off after election is over, like deactivate, like we always talk, like they get activated and then they deactivate. Now it's like, hold on, you said after the election. So let's wait and see what's going to happen. And then you get the state of the union. You don't even get mentioned. Who is so stupid in there? Don't I don't maybe they've given up Mo. Maybe they're like, all right, this is a wash. We can't do anything. Man, we'll just arrest them all. I think their plan is to roll out a lot of black male leadership. Oh my gosh. I'm starting to see, like I said, that's what I made the point of when they were talking to South Carolinians.

1:34:25 They talked to four black men. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, including one Black Lives Matter leader. They understand too that we need to get some black male leadership. This radical feminism, Black Lives Matter, destroying the male, the heterosexual male image is a bad look, but they can't go full-fledged because they're in a weird spot because they still had to do business with the feminists. They still had to do business with all these different groups. Whereas they're, you know, saying the conservatives are in a position like, if we can just get the guys on board. So what black men need the whole group. What black men do you think would take a lead position in spreading the new message?

1:35:09 On the Democrats? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have this guy out of Baton Rouge. I didn't want to mention his name, but he was like, had an ad where he's smoking weed. And, you know, and it's like, come on. It's so cringy. It was like the booty to the polls, like 2.0. The problem is they don't have anybody on the inside advising them. That's why everything they do come off is critical. So wait a minute. Do we have a black vice president? Do we? Isn't she advising them on the inside? Isn't that why she's there? Because she knows exactly how the community works. Yeah, she knows exactly how to lock black men up. All right.

1:35:51 Oh, God. All right. I'm going to play this now. The white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro. And the so-called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of the white man. Then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problem solved. That's the only way that they'll ever do it. Yeah, that's exactly right. And the proof is in the pudding right here, MoFax with Adam Curry. And we are a value for value podcast, which means there's no, we don't rely on commercials or advertising money of any sort or grant money, government money, any of that.

1:36:32 That's no way to be free. For that, you need to go to the Boston Berry show, which of course is not. You could have to listen to archives. So we rely on our producers, and our producers do a lot more than just help us with treasure, but also time and talent. Mo, what you been working on in the fax machine? What's happening with the Empire? Taking on new members. We're having meetings and got some stuff. Like I said, step by step. Every time we say we need somebody and a new person comes along and provides that piece. And I want to let people know that you can now offer your time and talent.

1:37:11 If you go to the mofax.com and click take action, that takes you to a email form. You fill it out, your name, your time, your talent that you can offer. And you're saying just a brief description of what you can offer. And that comes over to us. And we'll see how we can utilize the pieces. Yeah, and we print out your name. We put it on a corkboard and we connect pieces of string to other people with little pins. That's what we're doing. It's funny that you say that about, I know you said in jest, but what's happening also in the fax machine is not only people help the show, but they're helping each other. It's like, oh, do you do that? I'll do this. And it's like, oh, well, it started to start a side channel conversation.

1:37:55 They're doing their own thing. So I just had a thought. So now people are kind of congregating around the YouTube comments. Is that where people talk the most or where's the conversion? Where's the most of the discussion going on? Well, you have the, I mean, social media. I mean, we have a Twitter crowd. We have a No Agenda social crowd. We have an Instagram crowd and we have a YouTube crowd. And so it's just kind of. Do we need a MoFax.social? I think we do. I think it's about that time. Hold on a second. Let me just check something very important then. I think it's about that time. Yeah, it's, I think it is because, you know, and for those who don't know, just like noagendasocial.com.

1:38:39 Hold on, let me just see something. Mofax.social. That would be the proper way. Hold on a second. This is the fax machine and live. He's doing it live. I am. I am doing it live. Okay. Let me see. I think I can register this. Hold on. I love doing this. I have thousands of domain names. And they come up for renewal, and I have to make that decision every year. It's like, well, I still might use that, you know, like chinaisasshoe.com, you know, stuff like that. That's a good one to hold. That's a whole I did hold that, actually. I did hold that. Mofax.social. Let me see.

1:39:24 Hold on. But yeah, I mean, like, it's just beautiful. Yeah. Have you seen the website, the artwork? That's all the fax machine. And people are just like, how can I help? It's so fantastic to see that. And people have also been sending in treasure. And this is, yeah, we got it, Mo. Let me just complete this. Boom. Mofax.social. And I will be setting up a server for that. Ha ha. Which is, and I didn't even get to finalize that, which is like Twitter without the algos. It's very simple. And it's open source. And there's the Fediverse, which means you can have an account and you can talk to people all across different mastodons.

1:40:02 And we should probably make it invite so that everybody can create an invite for anybody else, but kind of keep it. Open registrations become a problem because you just get, oh, here's a free account I can use. We want to keep a little bit of family vibe to it. Yes. Facts fam. Okay. Let's thank some of our producers who are executive producers. These, of course, are real credits that you can use and put anywhere that credits are understood and accepted. And if there's any question about that, it's a real, this is a real media production. You are a real executive producer of MoFax with Adam Curry, episode 77 in this case. And we kick it off with our big baller.

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1:41:32 I'll bring up the penny jar in a moment. Yes, of course, we add a penny for him. Sir Dwayne, thank you very much. That is incredibly appreciated. Very generous of you. And here's what he says in his note. Mo, thank you for your courage. Just finished the lynching episode. So relevant. Welcome to Independence, my philosophical brother. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help up in this next phase. And he says, time and talent. I'll put that there because he gave me his number to reach out for anything. So talent as well. Yeah, Grand Duke Sir Dwayne Melancon. Having his number is a bit like having a gypsy ring. Hold on to that. He's a very resourceful man and incredibly generous and just kind.

1:42:15 And we appreciate it. His generosity speaks for itself. Yes. And our very own Dreb Scott is incredibly generous as well. Gave us 345.67. Thank you so much, Dreb. And of course, Dreb Scott also does the chapters for MoFax with Adam Curry. If you're using a modern podcast app, get one at newpodcastapps.com if you don't. He does all that chapter work for us. And he's supporting us. So he's supporting us with time, talent, and treasure. He wants a biscuit on his birthday for Friday, March 4th. He says March 4th, the only day of the year that gives a command. March 4th, Q of the Great Work. Dreb. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday.

1:42:58 You got it, ma'am, in advance. And they were battling in Arona. So yes, both of them. That's right. And how rude of me. I didn't ask how you're doing. So, I mean, oh, no. Thank you. I'm fine. The keeper picked up the coup right after I was done with it, more or less. And she's doing okay. This is now 12 days from. for her. I think she had a little bit of a brain glitch this morning, or maybe she was just really mad at me. Okay. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. No, she said that she's feeling good. This is the thing. She didn't look that never looked that sick. Women are so much better sick than men. Way better. We're big babies. I really do have to admit.

1:43:43 Let's see. We have person of merit. Yes. Is that we have person of merit? Casey Van Heal. Ah, there you go. Sustaining donor of no agenda and a Mo Fanatic since episode 50. I'm desperately need of a D-Deadbeating. Oh, we got that for you. Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat. Thank you both for all of your time and talent. So here's a little bit of treasure. I'm sending a triple X donation. This is $300. As an independent comic book creator, I like Mo. I like Mo, adored Fox's X-Men series. I spit out my coffee when Adam sadly admitted, well, we had no X-Men. This is true.

1:44:27 We didn't have that when I was growing up in, I don't think X-Men, I don't think. When did X-Men start? That was in. That wasn't TVs. Yeah. TV show started in the 90s. And I definitely didn't have comic books. Anyway, he says, so I humbly offer a triple of X's to make Sad Adam happy to the rest of you rooting tooting mutants. Magneto was Malcolm. So let's keep his X alive. Casey, thank you very much. And I'm sitting here looking at two beautiful independent comic books he sent. Ooh, nice. I value as well. The Super Rich Season 1 and The Silver Four, which are beautifully illustrated.

1:45:09 And we might be doing something with the Facts Machine. Oh, really? Yes. Oh, okay. I want a cape as a superhero. I know I'm going to be the pod father. I want a cape. I want to be able to fly. I want to be able to, just make you just, you got my back on that, right, Mo. You'll make me a cool superhero. All he wants is a cape. You can squeeze you in the cape. The person of merit comments. Thank you. Comics. Tyler Chrisman, $200. I'm Tyler. I go by Jack States when I'm in your YouTube live streams. I'm listening to your current episode. Want to send you some funds because it's a great investment keeping you on air.

1:45:49 Exactly. That's what this is about. I feel like I'm on more stable ground now as the mandate has been struck down and my company isn't forcing its people to vaccinate up. I'm happy for you. I want to send a check to P.O. box you have listed, but I'm unsure if it would make it out to the name on your PayPal or if you use a business name for show phones. Let me know so I can send it your way and lose my deadbeat title. Keep strong. Yeah, well, he says, keep strong and keep being you, Tyler. He sent it through the P.O. box, so that happened. And I'm just going around and around with PayPal about this name change. And I'm like, bro, I need to get it changed. And like, so this I had to create a whole nother LLC, but that's a whole nother story for another day.

1:46:33 But I do have good news. We do have subscriptions now on the page. Yes. Oh, Terry Keller will be delighted. He'll stop donating. No, he's old-fashioned. He doesn't need any buttons. He likes to do it the old way. He likes it. Old school. Yes, old school subscription. That's excellent. David McNally, David I McNally, Mo and Adam. Thank you for, and that's $200 from him. Thank you for continuing the process to enlighten me and many others. Mo, in some ways, you remind me of a friend who used to share, who used to share beer and good talk during football night with myself and a roommate. May I suggest the new book, Free Speech, A History from Socrates to Social Media by Jacob McMahon?

1:47:17 What would this be? McHangama. Hangama, McHangama, McHangama, McHangama. This is horrible. M-C-H-A-N-G-A-M-A. I think it's Han Gama. Hangama. McHangam. Hangama. That's my story. I'm sticking to it. All right. Well, his old podcast is linked from the website, free speechhistory.com. Best to Mo on the new fork in your path through life. Adam, I hope you're fully recovered. I am. Thank you very much, David. Appreciate it. Anonymous A, thank you. $150. That's the note. We appreciate it. We have Hicks and Ben, $120. Hope this note gets to you as the cash app limits notes to only a few characters. Is this true?

1:48:02 What's the limitation? I am not sure. Is it a longer note? No, he actually sent this through the email. Thankfully, so. he put in there email and put his email address, which cool. You know, I have this phobia of missing out on people's donations. So it always helps. I'm going to have to call Jack Dorsey. Man, give us some more characters. Something. But at least they do on their spreadsheet. They give you the notes. Yes. PayPal still hasn't figured it out yet. I don't know why. Something I wish you would opine on is how society keeps white and black men from forming lifelong friendships.

1:48:44 I grew up with white, black, Latino, and Vietnamese kids on my street playing basketball and doing what kids do. I played sports with black friends all the way up until the end of high school. My last black friend tragically died in a drunk driving accident. After I graduated high school, the diversity in my life severely dwindled, and I feel like I was forced into a racial echo chamber of people with common backgrounds. What gives? I never set out to have all white friends. What do you think? Am I alone in this? Also, sometimes I feel like Adam plays dumb when he knows what's happening. Love you guys. Keep up the good work. Well, maybe I'm just dumb. I'm not quite sure what he means by that. I wouldn't begin to speculate what he means by that. Well, but

1:49:27 I'll say this: I often ask things specifically for the benefit of some dumb listeners. So I think they don't get that part of it. That, you know, sometimes with stuff that we know, but we have to ask. Yeah, you want to make sure that people, yeah, to get the info out. Because we talk off air too, but you got to make sure that's part of what you do with broadcasting of all forms, is you have to re-explain little things. GBG, you know, it's like that kind of stuff. Now, about the question, the real source of his quest here is friends between men of different colors.

1:50:09 I think that's what the inclusion nationalism is about. It's all about where you're at in your life and who's around you and not feeling, oh, I can't speak this person or I can't speak that person. And hopefully, like I said, this podcast fosters that, that it makes it less awkward or even you have something to actually talk about. So just let it be natural, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, hey, I'll make this one last point: I think it is harder for older, when I say older, past school age, college age guys to make friends. Because it's like, hey, you want to come over later and do something? It's kind of, it's kind of like awkward.

1:50:49 So I think that plays into it as well. There's a lot of different reasons, but I am definitely seeing men connecting more with other men than I've ever seen in the last 20 years. Yes. This is good. It's very good. Scott Wildblood, $100.06. Let's see what he has to say. Hi, Adam and Mo. Love listening to the show. I'm facing the same situation as Mo. My longtime employer has decided I'm no longer safe for others to be around because I refuse to get stabbed. I'm sending $133 Canadian dollars, which turns out to be $100 in American dollars. Yeah. Thanks for some jobs, Karma. If I get a job soon, I'll send a matching donation.

1:51:31 Thank you very much. Scott W, Vancouver, British Columbia. And it just so happens we have a beautifully newly manufactured. This is good, bro. Where's that from? Martin. Is that from Martin? Everybody knows Tommy don't have no job, man. I miss Martin. I miss Martin a lot. I want to stop you and make sure we got the note that I sent you with the cash donation. Do we want to squeeze it in now? Because I want to disrespect and make sure he didn't get, you know, he gets his censorship. Yeah, I got it right here. This is from.

1:52:17 Hold on a second. I got to open it. It's from Rob. I don't know if in the letter he wants to go by anything other than that, but it's from Rob. Okay. We hear, though. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Let me see. I'm going to do my Alex Jones paper router while you look it up. Here it is. Mo, Adam Facts fan, please accept this small exchange of value for all of your and Adam's efforts to educate and inform. I'm a biracial black man. I find myself laughing, cringing, and nodding at every single episode. I just wanted to share how and why your work in my opinion is so important in this day and age. Born and raised in LA with parents from Alabama and Louisiana, respectively, my mama, Alabama, my daddy, Iziana.

1:52:59 It wasn't until I was almost 30 that I started to realize my parents reared us with country sensibilities. As my mom would say, you rear children, you raise cattle, and now I know the difference. I'm not a sheep. Yes. It was drilled into me at a young age that I was not white, quote, pips, and that my hazel eyes and tighter-than-pop's complexion was no guaranteed of acceptance in either world. And it was even though my aunt was once national president of aka. Rest in peace, Dr. Mary Davis. What was aka? That's Alpha, Kappa, Alpha Corporate. God got it. And I was supposedly legacy at Moorehouse College. It was very clear if I wanted to attend that school, I needed to embrace being only black.

1:53:43 Darn, I could have been Sean King. I couldn't do that, so I didn't go to Moorehouse. So good for you. It was very confusing for me growing up as I was constantly torn between what I actually liked and what people around me told me I should like. Football was okay, soccer wasn't. Track was cool, but surfing and racing motorcycles was not. I finally decided to just be me after getting asked to leave a Nation of Islam meeting in junior college because I was told I was a spy. Oh, but being 6'1, 200 pounds, and the linebacker on my football team, I stood chest strong and asked who was going to make me. They rescheduled the meeting. I went hard into the rabbit hole of eugenics in my 20s and learned all things Darwin, preservation of favored races, Cold Springs Harbor, J.

1:54:25 Marion Sims, etc. I highly recommend the book War Against the Weak at waragainsteweak.com for a good account of the movement. I've always felt that if more people knew that Rockefeller controlled the University of Chicago, the Chicago School of Psychology, and the South Side of Chicago were and are laboratories for these sick people. Holy crap. Sounds like Baltimore. Right. I think more people would connect the dots. So I'm very appreciative of the show. We are at war, and I agree with Mo and Adam. They are coming for all of us now. You know it. The enclosed t-shirt I sent Adam Cejon's P.O. box. Okay. I'll have to go wrangle that from him. And cash are from my. I have mine right here. So. Yeah.

1:55:09 And the cash are from my new business. I think he sent the t-shirt for me. Good. Are for my new business venture to regain my independence, dignity, and sanity after losing my 21-year massage therapy career to COVID, Epstein, and Robert Kraft BS. Oh, yeah, I bet that hurt too. The logo is graffiti, the oldest form of narrative decomposition under a set of headphones, because while the revolution isn't televised, it is being podcasted. Gee, describe this to me, Mo. What does it look like? It is a beautiful long-sleeve white t-shirt with silver writing with large headphones, and it says in it, We Hear Though.

1:55:54 Oh, We Hear Though. Oh, I like it. Uh-huh. Cool. Yeah. Excellent. Shoot me a picture of that, will you? I'm going to put it in the show notes. I definitely will. Okay. I hope they fit. And if anyone asks what the logo means, just lean and whisper. They tried to kill us. We here, though. Thanks for all you do, Rob, and We Hear Though. And he says, Oh, PS Facts fam can use code FriendsandFamily, though, T-H-O, for 30% off at WehearThough.com. W-E-H-E-R-E-T-H-O, WeHearThough.com. And I got $5 for the show for every purchase made using that code.

1:56:35 Wow. Love to you and yours, Rob. Rob from Los Angeles. Thank you very much, Rob. That's really a stack of Lincolns, too. That's really, really kind. Stack of Lincolns. Yes. Love that. Love that. Now, do we need to give him any? I'm going to give him a Mo Karma. Gratuitous, but here it is. You've got. Mo Karma. Thanks, ma'am. Rob Allen, $100 a birthday donation for my mom, Cindy Connolly. Mo and Adam, we appreciate what you do, says Nicole. Oh, so it's Nicole. I'm sending it through, Rob. Thank you. Whoa, whoa, whoa, you know what we got to do then? It's a biscuit. Oh, I got to get a biscuit too. They always give me a biscuit on my birthday. Bet William Bullock, $100 low, Moe and Adam, episode 75, got me to

1:57:21 meant crying. Oh, it got me too. It got to me. Okay, I see. It got to me. Oh, these are some emojis that came through weirdly, I think. From William, you go to two Williams in a row. How about that? William Torres, $100. He says, thank you, and God bless. We appreciate that. And Isaac Chase, he sent a donation note to. Oh, that's a good idea. Let me grab that while you move on to the next one. Okay, I'll continue. SV comes in with a sack of sevens. Now, this, of course, is the show number donation. So we will have you noted as such. Donation commemorates listening to episodes one through 76 since fall of 2021.

1:58:03 Can I get a Wusa? You know you can. Wusa. Woosa. Woosa. Wusa. Josiah Hendrickson, 7777. GBG, stand tall. Thank you, sir. Brandt Walker, 77.77 for episode 77. He says, may I please request a D-Dead beating? D B-dubs, you bet. Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat. Andrew Hoffman also asked for a D-Dead beating with $77.70. Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat.

1:58:44 He says, I enjoy the show and always learn something new from Mo's perspective. Thank you both for standing up for medical freedom and personal autonomy. I believe the Facts family will come through and make that the transition from side gig to full-time is successful. And I want to be a part of that. He says, thank you for your courage. And thank you, Andrew. That's exactly what it will take. And we appreciate that very, very much. This is great. 7,700 from a cult fan. There you go. This is my boy, Sir Nathan Lee. Thank you, Mo and Adam, for your essential, important MoFax with Adam Curry. 77 comes out on the Pisces new moon. Now, he's into this stuff. This is always very interesting. Heavy. I mean, he's. Oh, he's way into it.

1:59:25 Yeah, and he has the books and the receipts. I'm telling you. He says, the number seven might be said to be God's number. However, this requires more time than we have here. He's always good at keeping it as short as possible. Your therapy show, Get You Some Therapy, shows your good intentions and abilities to make something useful. Your show, your reflections on the topic about the matter at hand. I would like to add something further to that. For all humans, learning sacred geometry will actually do something healing for your mind. I'm keeping this super topical and quick, so I'll simply point you in the direction of both Jane 108 and Robert Edward Grant. Both men are in our times leading the field, and I truly hope you'll take the time to get familiar with their work.

2:00:07 I believe in using art and fun as tools for healing as well, profoundly. So shout out to Brandon Johnson, to Joey J and all Red33, Red33 mainstays. And that's it. Mo, you're staying strong in these times of tribulation. You've been hitting it with honor and a plum, and I respect that. It's inspiring to me and others, I am sure. Oh, I got to help plug my business. Isn't that right? Especially if it's helpful in healing. My credentials can be found in Mike Riley's Phronology. Besides singer and writer, amongst the few Fedora hatted suits I wear, I'm also an astrologer. I take immense care of my work from someone who thought astrology was BS. I sure learned a new attitude. If you want to have your chart done, please feel free to contact me at occult fan at No Agenda Social.

2:00:51 He's a cult fan or occult fan at gmail.com. I take clients on in the two weeks before and two weeks after the period of their birthday. I also remember the No Agenda in August. Hold on a second. Where am I? Oh, I remember the No Agenda in August where Adam told John C. Edge to do his chart. I should say that, Adam, I should say that, Adam, when late August September comes, I'll do your chart and you can tell John how damn good it was. Okay. He's always telling me about the Leo moon and stuff. And lo and behold, man, you walk outside and like, damn, that's that's a crazy ass moon. Oh, yeah, it's the Leo moon. I learned something from this guy. We have a couple more. Very knowledgeable.

2:01:33 Yes, a couple more associate executive producers to thank. We have Betty S. with 66.66. No note. We appreciate it, though. Prince by AG, double nickels on a dime, 55.10. C. Davis with 53.33. Eric Hochul with 52. Tiggard Kent, $51. Says Mo and Adam, keep up the good work. Associates. Oh, that's Tiggard Kent Associates. I'm sorry. Didier M, $50 without a note. That's fine. Nancy Tyndall says, enjoy the show. Keep up the good work. X-O-X-O. Stephen Dew, $50. Good for you for sticking up for your principles and dignity. I've fallen behind on the show, but still on my list. Fill your tank once on me. Thank you. Sean Thorpe comes in with the trope.

2:02:15 GBG and give Mo value. That's right. $50. Johnny Hipwell, $50. Carl Vogler says, please, D Deadbeat me. Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat. And thank you for sharing. And thank you for repeatedly blowing my mind. Now I can't trust anyone. Yeah, you can trust us. You can trust us. As far as you can throw. Only Facts Family. Only trust the family. Just a fan. Jason Cooper, $50 says, I wish I had more to give right now. No, Jason, this is how value works. It's whatever you think it is worth based upon your perception, your reality of value at any given moment. That's what the beauty of it. There's no right or wrong about it, as long as you're providing value somehow.

2:02:59 Thank you all for. so much great content sincerely. And he has at in how is his mastodon dress at enohoward at c.im. Jason, thank you. And then our final associate executive producer is Jack Zach Welch. I almost said Jack, maybe, maybe related. Zach Welch, $50. And he says, Mo, you are teaching my kids American history. Thank you. Yep. Not just the kids. Also, also teaching me. And that's incredible. We have some boostagrams. We're going to move those to our next thank you segment. So I did send over the Isaac Chase letter if you want to get to that. I don't know if you got it received or not.

2:03:38 I can either one. Yeah, you want to go through it since it happened. Yeah, it says this is the, let me make it larger. I can get my glasses too. Hold on one second. Yeah, laugh. Laugh in my I got glasses and hearing aids. I get to laugh. Okay. All right. This is the notation. This is the donation note to accompany my $100 donation through Cash App on February 21st, 2022. Jingles D-Dead Beat Me and a Wild West pimp style. I don't know if we got that. I know what it is. Okay. All right. All right. So it says, Mo, Adam, love the show and admire both of you for your testicular fortitude.

2:04:18 Thank you. I wanted to ask Mo if he has an opinion on why Vlad TV gets such great guests money, even though he usually universally seems as a culture vulture and asks such slimy questions of his guests. And what I mean by money is if you're on Vlad, it increases your profile and it ends up bringing you the guest money in some kind of way, not from Vlad. It says, I love watching his guests, but he clearly exports many racial issues and industry beefs just for clicks. And that's kind of what, not him per se, but what we were talking about before with the

2:04:58 drill rappers. Yep. It was that kind of thing where the industry beefs. They do it on a smaller level. The smaller YouTubers do it. It says, if only another interviewer who actually understood the guests and the issues could come on the scene to interview the same guest with respect and deep cultural knowledge. Hint, hint. Hey, I would love to do it. Of course. Also, just wanted to ask for a shout out for my firearms training company, Guns for Everyone. Hey, sounds like GBG to me. Sounds like it to me. And it says, we have been offering free concealed carry classes in Colorado for a decade and firmly agree with GBG with that GBG initiative.

2:05:42 See, there it is. We've had over 7,000, 70,000 students since we started. Wow. Wow. Wow. That's a lot of GBG or GBE. Yes. Guns for Everyone. It says gunsforayone.com. Can you please get, can I, I please get a D-Deadbeat and a Wild West pimp style. Sir Isaac, no agenda night and protector of firearms instructors. Congratulations. You're no longer a deadbeat. Wild West pimp style. What do you want? Okay.

2:06:23 That's so cool. 70,000. Yesterday we went to the gun store to the range in Dallas. 71 tanks and stuff? No, no, no, no. This is it says like a high-end gun range store. And now Dallas is a little different than the Hill Country or Austin, but I'd say the greatest football team ever. But continue. Yeah, I'd say in the store, including people helping behind the desk on sales and stuff, 40% black. It was like, wow, okay, look at this. This is good. People are awake. They know what's going on.

2:07:03 And then this, I just got to tell the story. You can rent, you know, to shoot 250 rounds on a Gatling gun, but like a modern one. Okay. Holy crap. I didn't shoot one. Someone was shooting. We were in the range. I think my teeth are still rattling. That's what we need to get GBG. You need one of those bad boys. That thing's amazing. All right. Now we got all of our execs and associate executives. And we'll be thanking our booster grams. Our boosters were there. Notes in the second segment. You know that you can support this show by going to mofundme.com or going to mofacts.com. New website. Everything on renews. It's like revamped. Mo's been working real hard on that.

2:07:47 Make sure you check that out. And consider supporting us with some time, talent, or treasure, which you can do in real. in real time with a modern podcast app, which I recommend you get anyway to make sure that you never are interrupted in your Mo Facts with Adam Curry enjoyment. Do that at newpodcastops.com. Thank you again for supporting episode 77 of Mo Facts with Adam Curry. So now we got to get into the psychology behind why people may be voting or feel loyal to vote for the Democratic Party. And I know we laugh and you know, joke about them and that kind of thing, but it's a serious issue there, I believe.

2:08:31 And so we have Neely Fuller. We've heard him many times on this show. And this is just one more set of gems that he wants to drop on us. And this is breaking training by becoming your own leader. I don't want everything to become built around Neely Fuller. That thing about that personality cup, you become your own personality. That's what the book is supposed to do. Make each and every black person his or her own leader. You're no longer looking for a leader. You've had leaders. You've got leaders now who have come and gone in the history books.

2:09:11 We don't need to keep piling on leaders. I mean, and everybody's sitting back on our laws because we've been trained that way to wait on the maximum leader, the final leader. We have been led, and we have been led to a thing called logic. That's what all the information that comes to us is about. So what is logic for? It's to make each and every person his or her own leader. Leader. That's correct. Logic. Now, how long ago was this interview done? This is maybe a few years ago. This is not old. I mean, he's still out here doing interviews.

2:09:51 I mean, he's very active. It's amazing how he gets the same sound with his phone on every interview. Every interview. Every single one. It's consistent. It's consistent. And these are from different sources, but it kind of lends to the folklore about him around him. But this is the thing. If you operate with logic, and this, I think, more and more voters in general, but more specifically, we're talking about the black voter today, is that it has to make sense. And a lot of things are not making sense. And that's why you're having a lot of people pulling away from the Democratic Party and any allegiance they have and not running straight to the Republicans. It's sitting back and it's like, okay, what do you have for us? And this lends to the

2:10:38 thing I used to say a lot, but I haven't said it in a long time. It's the school of fish, flock of birds mentality of we're kind of moving in the same way, but nobody's leading the school of fish. It's just that everybody is moving in unison. And you're seeing that. And it makes it harder for it to be infiltrated and led astray compared to a hierarchy with one main leader. I mean, when you teach a baby, the baby just don't shouldn't, just doesn't come back to the nest. Keep looking for guidance. And among animals, they kind of send out that signal.

2:11:18 At a certain point, you are your own leader. That's what a cat will tell kittens. At a certain point, I'm going to teach you everything that you need to know. Now, that's the main thing. To get all everything that you need to know, because you don't have everything you need to know, then you're going to have to keep coming back. It's just like, you know, what do they call rerun? I mean, that character and one of them. Yeah, you're right. In other words, you keep coming back to the college. You never go out. There are some people who become. I understand, I heard this term back in the 1940s, professional students.

2:11:54 Well, we're all students because you're always supposed to be learning, but you're supposed to be able to learn something and hold on to it and be able to stand on your own two feet. Man, you got him on the lost tapes. Brad, that would be a dream. Why not? Why not your Moe Fing facts, brother? Why not? And it's funny you say that because somebody reached out to me. I want their name and said they were good friends with him. So, yeah, maybe it'll happen. I would love to have that conversation with him because he's logic-based, and I'm a logic-based person. And that's the freedom of if you can show your work and say, okay, that makes sense.

2:12:37 This makes sense. Then it's not any spells or magic or things that we're seeing in politics now. I'm sorry. That's what it was. Yesterday on Glenn Beck, I said, these are spells. And I said it twice, I think. says, You've mentioned this. I'm going to do Glenn. You've mentioned this. You've used this word. Spells. What do you mean by that? I said, I got this from my man Mo. We do this show together. And he taught me, and you know, I said, uh, about the pastor background. And, you know, this is spells. It's words. It's what people use, and they're impactful, like NLP. It's real stuff. That's how we got to it. Yes. And you see the result of it as in the South Carolina voter clips.

2:13:22 Yes. They're looking for the word savior. I would never ever. How about this term? The spell, today's modern political spell creates cognitive dissonance. I'll buy that. Yeah. That's kind of new, though. No, I know. It's just so prevalent and it's so insanely right in front of our nose now. But also, the fact that we have alternate avenues of information, it can point this out. Before everything was siloed, and you couldn't get it out to like there was no way to say there was cognitive dissonance. Like the Rob from We're Here, though.

2:14:02 He's saying that with podcasting and independent media, not only can it highlight it, it can mock it. We can make memes about it in the meme stream media and on your social feed. So now it's, I don't think they can counterbalance it yet. It throws them off. But Nillie Fuller made one point of coming back to this house, you know, to be taken care of. And that lent me to go back to latest stuff we've played is 72, but we played it throughout the whole, I mean, several times throughout the life of the show. And this is Malcolm X, and he's talking about the House Negro and the Field Negro. And I just want to illustrate that. Pay attention to what the House Negro logic was. Back during slavery,

2:14:48 when black people like me talked to the slave, they didn't kill him. They sent some old House Negro along behind him to undo what he said. You have to read the history of slavery to understand this. There were two kinds of Negroes. There was that old House Negro and the Field Negro. And the House Negro always looked out for his master. When the Field Negroes got too much out of line, he held them back in check. He put him back on the plantation. The House Negro could afford to do that because he lived better than the Field Negro. He ate better, he dressed better, and he lived in a better house. He lived right up next to his master in the attic or the basement.

2:15:29 He ate the same food his master ate and wore his same clothes. And he could talk just like his master, master. Good addiction. And he loved his master more than his master loved himself. That's why he didn't want his master hurt. If the master got sick, he'd say, What's the matter, boss? We sick when the master's house caught a fire. He tried to put the fire out. He didn't want his master's house burned. He never wanted his master's property threatened. And he was more defensive of it than the master. Well, that was the house Negro. So, so the point I want to illustrate with this is that what Charlemagne was talking about.

2:16:11 I did not want to come out of that clip saying, because I know what it was, a white man is not, oh, it's not a grood look if I'm saying Charlemagne's a House Negro. But I hear that clip, I'm like, dude, he's talking about Charlemagne. And it's not the point that he, it's the way he operates is that he says in there that he even highlighted that it's going to be a lot of people come out even after this 2020 election. Yeah. And you didn't get nothing out of it. They're going to still vote. Still vote like your democracy depends upon it. Well, it does. It's under threat. Democracy, as we know it, is about to go away.

2:16:49 We know that, don't you, Mao? Right. And that, but he's even getting frustrated with it because he understands like this is getting heavy for me to carry. You know, to tell people to keep going to vote. You got to give him something tangible because he knows he has ears to the ground. You know, I mean, he understands what's going on, but it's that good. Still, it's for the better. It's for the good. And how they come around and protect Joe Biden and say, you know, whatever he says, they'll make, they'll defend it. Yeah. And this is that mindset of, you know, they're going to protect their master. And it's a political master.

2:17:29 And, but that's why the Boule have the finer things in life. That's why they have the money and the economic and social status that they have because they're going to protect the Democratic Party and their politicians at all costs. costs. I found the penny jar. Thank you. That was troubling me that we need to. I didn't like it. All right. And that's what they got for their vote as well. You want to give them another one now, Mr. Um, so we got this final clip with Neely Fuller, and he's going to make an interesting claim about culture.

2:18:06 Birds do that. Bees do that. The birds don't keep coming back to the same nest that they were raised in. Saying, where's Norma? Where's Papa? But black people are trained to do that. Which way did the white folks go? I mean, because I don't know nothing. I'm helpless. I mean, why can't they stop this killing here? We don't know how to stop killing each other. Why don't some white folks come here? And when the white folks come here, why is it that they kill so many of us? And the white supremacist will say, well, I don't kill as many of you on a daily basis as you kill each other.

2:18:45 How about that? Wow. If we say, yeah, but you kill some of us and you're supposed to know better. All right. Well, what is it that we're supposed to know? When we can't spend 10 minutes alone without going at each other's throats. Correct. And that's a reason for that. And we've been taught to do that. That's why we got to break training. Black culture as it is now is absolutely worthless. I didn't say that. Neely Fuller said that, but he makes a great point that we have a higher expectation for people outside the group than people within the group towards each other.

2:19:24 And I always made this point of we need to challenge each other where it needs to become so taboo for a black person to kill another black person when somebody else does it. It would be such a such an event. Yeah. Such a, you know, such in stark contrast to how we are. But the fact that we do it to each other, and I understand why. I mean, like, it's, it's that, it's the social programming. And I'm, like I said, I'm not giving anybody excuses, but I mean, just understanding why, like I said, about the drill rap. Right. I understand why those, you know what I'm saying? Those young boys take,

2:20:03 you know, calculated risk and maybe uncalculated risk to say, well, this is when you get in the mindset of this is my only way out of the, you know, the mindset of downward thinking, you can rationalize that. So I get it. It's so sad, Moe. This is such a sad development. I had no idea until you told me a couple shows ago. Like, what is this? But that's the only way out. I mean, but you see this. I don't want to make it exclusive to black people because you see, it was a thing called backyard wrestling. I don't know if you remember that or not. And it was like these like rural white kids and white young adults, men, and they would jump off the roof.

2:20:45 Yeah. And like just crazy stunts. You see some of this mentality in the X games where you get on a skateboard and you go down a hundred-foot incline. It's all for the game. It's the same mentality of it's risk versus reward. And if you look at it through that lens, it makes sense because it's like, well, I have no other prospects, but it's due to the downward thinking and the limited thinking that's presented to them from a very young age. Yeah. So now we got to go ahead. No, I was just going to. No, another example was, what was that called?

2:21:27 What was it called? It was the guys that used to do pranks to each other. Jackie. MTV. Yes. The same mentality. I mean, this crazy stuff they would do to each other for money. And that would generate down to wannabes. You know, it's a whole, it became a whole thing where like between the X games, you had guys knocking their teeth out, breaking their arms, trying to skate down rails. It's the same mentality. So we don't want to pathologize these young men because it's, well, it's a risk that I take, you know, that I play this daily game.

2:22:02 But on the other side of it, could be large monetary games. So I don't take it away from them, but I'll say that the fact that we need to stop harming each other and having a higher expectation on the people outside than we do for ourselves. No kidding. So, but that's that goes to show you that our culture doesn't mean anything like Nee Fuller says. And to support that and really to explain how culture needs to be, you know what I'm saying, created. And the purpose of it is, this is Dr. Amos Wilson, and this is from a throwback show from show 30. Looking at the question, what is culture, Horton, and horn? Hunt said from life, from their life experiences, a group develops a set of rules and procedures for meeting their needs.

2:22:48 The set of rules and procedures together with a supporting set of ideas and values is called a culture to a great extent. You see, a culture involves a set of rules and a procedure. for meeting needs. And this is the thing we have to keep in mind. You don't have a culture just to have a culture. And you don't claim a culture just because it's a culture or just because it's African. The ultimate thing that culture must do is solve problems. That's why people evolve a culture. That's why culture comes into existence

2:23:28 as a way of what? Solving problems and meeting needs. That's why, at a certain point, when a culture no longer meets the needs of a people or solves the problem confronting a people, that culture must be transformed. There we go. So if the culture is not solving problems, then it's antiquated and needed to be done away with. And I think that's what's been burgeoning over the life of this show. This is how, once again, this is how we met because you heard the culture changing of people, ADOS, Foundational Black lineage, pulling away from this ubiquitous

2:24:17 blackness. It's just like, what does that mean? What does black mean? And it's like, well, we need to separate ourselves politically. Not so much culturally or how we deal with people, but it's like when it comes to political matters, we need to separate ourselves to have our own independent claim. And that frustrated a lot of people. So that means that goes to show you that people don't want you to really solve your own problems. And they'll actually be roadblocks for this. Yeah. So, yeah. I'm still not really positive, Mo. You got to work me a little more. No, no, no, it is positive because what you're seeing is the new culture being formed.

2:25:05 Yeah, but that's a good idea. That's a very dangerous thing when new cultures are formed. All kinds of things can happen with this. How so? Influences come in, weird things. I don't know. It just seems vulnerable. Maybe that's what I'm thinking. But now you go back to Neely Fuller, and that's why I stacked these clips up the way I did. If the culture is built around logic, things that make sense, it's not about what leaders are saying. You can't cognitively. But the cognitive dissonance is, I mean, you've seen it for the past two years. People seeing the obvious opposite of what they believe. But that's the point.

2:25:47 It's that they don't give the real forming culture as to be expected. They're not going to give it a platform. So what I'm saying is that the group is getting the group that's pushing this political narrative is getting smaller and smaller and smaller to the point where they lost all influence, where Biden couldn't even get people to go with him to Atlanta when he was going to do that. I mean, nobody wanted to stand on that stage with him. And that was a parallel with George Bush. Nobody wanted him to come campaign for him. No, no, no, no, no. Stay away, George. It's all good. It's all good, brother. So out of that became the MAGA and Tea Party and all these different iterations, but it got to the point where they got a political

2:26:35 candidate elected. So I'm looking at that and I'm like, okay, is this how this starts? But we have to form it around logic, things that make sense and things that solve problems. That's why, like I said, once again, this is why I stacked this clips up. You become your own leader and your judgment should be based off if it's logical or not. Not emotional, not silly stuff, as Neely Fuller said. Does it make sense? Right, it makes sense. And it's only one right answer. And I think this is why they want to make math racist. Oh, of course, because it's logical and you can't break the logic of numbers and math, but just call it racist.

2:27:15 Yes. And this is why they want to hijack the term science because science was about proving things. You know, is this work? Is it repeatable? You know, you only have one variable in the scientific process. These kind of things they want to get away from us and like be super emotional. emotional. How do you feel? And you heard these grown men from the previous generations talk about how they felt and I'm scared. You hear this a lot. It's very disgusting when you hear people say, Oh, I'm scared and I'm fearful, or when people project it on you, like, were you scared? Weren't you afraid? It's like, no, I wasn't afraid. Why would I be afraid? You know what I'm saying? GBG, you know what I'm saying?

2:27:56 Whatever happens, happens. And that's why they want to keep us away from guns. Yes. Away from financial independence, away from all these things that could definitely solve our problems because they always want to sell us the dream of solving our problems for us. There's nothing sacred about holding a culture in the face of, you know, new events and new changes. Unless, of course, you're free to do that if you're willing also to accept suicide or death. And you have that right to that choice. You know, I tell people, yeah, we have the right to say, look, we're going to hold on to this culture, even if it kills us.

2:28:37 But we should be what? Very conscious of our decision. We should not be holding on to it out of a misunderstanding of what culture is supposed to do. Ultimately, culture is supposed to solve problems and to meet the needs of the people. And a culture then has to be measured against those standards. Yes, sir. And if you're holding on to something that's not solving your problems and you're getting the same input and the same results, it's not solving your problems. That's a form of insanity. Yes, it is. It's the definition of insanity.

2:29:15 Exactly. And just to prove that we've been doing the same thing since Malcolm X days, I think we've had him state these points before, but not in this exact speech. And this is when we come to blacks being used as a political football. In this crooked game of power politics here in America, the Negro, namely the race problem, integration, civil rights issue, are all nothing but tools used by the whites who call themselves liberals against another group of whites who call themselves conservatives, either to get into power or to retain power.

2:29:58 Among whites here in America, the political teams are no longer divided into Democrats and Republicans. The whites who are now struggling for control of the American political throne are divided into liberal and conservative camps. The white liberals from both parties cross party lines to work together toward the same goal. And white conservatives from both parties do likewise. The white liberal differs from the white conservative only in one way: the liberal is more deceitful, more hypocritical than the conservative. Wow. What makes you think that people will learn this time around, Mo

2:30:43 when you hear this? Information. Okay, good point. Yeah, good point. I don't, I don't, and I had these conversations with several friends of mine that I don't, I'm going to say it this way: don't underestimate the power of information that's being spread around through memes, through short videos, through pointing out hypocrisy. When you can say, well, look at this and compare this to this. And it's like, well, if I'm a logical person, well, what it does is one of two things.

2:31:22 Either it makes you a logical person, because she's like, oh, that makes sense, or it makes you be identified as an illogical person and people separate themselves from you. And that's what we're seeing on a grander scale is this with Pootie Tang. It's like a lot of people on both sides of the aisle are either for this or against it. It's not a political party thing. In fact, AOC and Bernie Sanders say we should leave NATO. I mean, that's Donald Trump talk. This is these are interesting times. And you hear people like Joy Reed back in the present

2:32:00 and the war machine. When we got other stuff we got to be doing, it's like, I get it. I understand. You know, you want to push back on Pootie, but it's like, man, hey, now is not the time. We're in a country where bridges is falling down. Education is an all-time low. People are eating junk. People are eating people. I mean, bab salts. I mean, ethanol. All kinds of stuff. We're in, I'll say it again. We are in demolition, man, times. Yeah. It's not hyperbole. You see people coming into stores and ransacking.

2:32:45 We basically made shoplifting legal. And you're worried about Putin? Yeah. No, no, no. Well, as I would say, this is a psyop. All of it's a psychopath. We've been psyoped for decades now. But it's backfiring now because people can get screenshots of people with cardboard guns and point out that people have airsoft rifles. But the mainstream is pushed, including Fox, is pushing so hard for this. And they're doing only trauma-based entertainment of think of the humans, think of the human element, oh, the suffering.

2:33:26 You know, there's no more suffering in the world, by the way, Moe just say, Baltimore, no one's suffering. Ukraine is where the suffering is. And that lends to the hypocrisy, what makes it easier to say, how can here's one meme. How do you care about the border in Ukraine? Yeah, but our border is wide open. Well, that's the exact. Well, you can point that out and put those two things beside each other on a social media post. Your logic has to kick in. Or if you don't get that, if you don't understand that, you're lost. And it's like, you know what? I need to separate myself from you. And it's going to be a lot of pulling away of the old

2:34:08 alliances. And it's going to be, like you said, with AOC and Bernie Sanders. You see them is starting to pull at the threads because no longer can AOC play this. You know, she can't play the middle. The middle, the fence is going to become so uncomfortable that you can't ride it anymore. Right. And that's where I'm optimistic at because now it's like, oh, now we can vote on topics or even in public opinion. If it's not voting, I can speak on this and say, I'm not with us going to Russia and risking World War III.

2:34:48 Are you crazy? It's an incredible unifier. Now, I have a very good relationship with both my stepdaughters, but I sent one of my stepdaughters an article about AOC and Bernie, and she works for the local DSA, Democratic Socialists of America. And I said, Will you look at this? I agree with Bernie and AOC. She's like, well, hey, now, how about this? We were both kind of surprised by it. And what that does is bring you to the table, like Malcolm says, bring us to the table. That's right. It's these different, you know, conversations, but now it's across the gender divide.

2:35:27 I mean, excuse me, across the generational divide. Generational divide. Exactly. That's a big one. And you see the conversation between men and women starting to be had. Like, you know what? We actually need each other. That's like Curry and the Keeper. Anything that can cause unity and you can build around that is a good thing. So I'm not going to do it out at all. But let's go ahead and get into this final clip from Malcolm X. Both want power, but the white liberal is the one who has perfected the art of posing as the Negro's friend and benefactor.

2:36:03 And by winning the friendship and support of the Negro, the white liberal is able to use the Negro as a pawn or a weapon in this political football game that is constantly raging between the white liberals and the white conservatives. The American Negro is nothing but a political football. And the white liberals control this ball through tricks or tokenism, false promises of integration and civil rights. In this game of deceiving and using the American Negro, the white liberals have complete cooperation of the Negro civil rights leader who sell our people out for a few crumbs of token recognition, token games, token progress.

2:36:52 Wow, man. What year was this? I would say early 60s. I don't know exactly the date for the speech. Wow, wow, wow. But in the information age, the fact that we can go pull this clip up and play it now. That's it. Before you had to walk around with a tape recording, like, hey, I want you to hear something. You said something about 10 minutes ago. You said the meme stream. Did you say meme stream? Yes, the meme stream media. That's your social media feeds. Because I registered meme stream.energy. got that one. I don't know. Meme stream. Meme stream media. Let me see if I'm just on a tear today, Mo. I mean, I'm helping with the meme. We got to get this stuff going. We need some cool domain names.

2:37:38 That's the power when you can present information in a quick, digestible chunk where it inspires thought. That's like these clips. These clips are a form of a meme. Because people that may not feel comfortable sharing the content just yet with people because they don't know which way they're going to go. They're like, I get this all the time. Hey, what show did you use this clip in? Can you send that to me? And I'll just send them over to the archives. It's like, you know, it's in the show. And they go and get the clip. And a lot of times they'll come back and say that that worked. Like you said with your daughter with AOCM. Yep, my stepdaughter. Hey, we got meme streammedia.org. That's a pretty good one.

2:38:18 There we go. All right. We got it. But that is the power. That's how people receive their news now. And scroll. When they scroll, it's like, okay, meme got it. And they can't block it. They cannot figure out a way to. No, the AI doesn't understand it. There's no way to do it. It's especially with pictures. That's the only thing human we got left. And humor, humor, mocking. Mocking is very important. Very important, very powerful. And it's a good release where you don't harbor these feelings. It's like, let me laugh at it, get it out of my system, and then keep on moving. Yep, right on. So I guess that wraps up that block. And I guess we need to thank some more people.

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2:48:05 So I appreciate that as well. I always like to thank people when I feel like a kid coming from the post office with all these people. Oh, it's always like Christmas. I love going to the P.O. box. Like, look at all this cool stuff. I know. Let's see. So now I brought up the term I want to introduce, which is actually two and they're connected. But we've always talked about trauma-based entertainment, right? Yes. This is the show, yeah, for sure. And this is how they recondition you of the fear. Like these slave movies or doing Jim Crow type movies to keep black people mentally in their place.

2:48:50 So this is Dr. Christine Cortez, I think is how I pronounce it. Courtoy, probably. Cortoy, excuse me. And this is on trauma bonding. I've just done a review of trauma bonding, and it's exactly that. It's something negative can happen with such a significant person, and it creates a bond with that person at the same time that it's a negative bonding, but it's still bondedness. And it's really hard to break away from that because of the attachment dynamics that are so complicated.

2:49:27 And so, on one hand, I think as therapists, we have to acknowledge the, I mean, we have to be very clear about acknowledging the bond with the person, but to not say that the behavior was okay and really make that distinction. And so that they can start seeing it, at least with the population that I work with, very often they're from families that are and they look good on the outside, but they don't function well, as we're talking about. And I find that adds another insult to injury. And that makes it that much more difficult to sort of get to that because they, you know, they're so

2:50:10 they're still loyal to the family and the family representation rather than loyal to themselves. So the differentiation that you're talking about is also differentiating and making you're making it clear, beginning to make it clear to yourself that you don't have to uphold that image anymore. Nor do you have to play out the message that you got. Well, this is a very interesting term. Is she Ados? No. I can't tell. I can't tell by listening to her. She's white. Yes. And she's just speaking more in family terms, but if you replace family at party, it's the same mentality that on the outside, if you just listen to the rhetoric and what's on the mainstream media, you would think that Democrats love black people and they're doing everything they can for them, but it's a very

2:51:00 toxic relationship. And, you know, black Democratic voters feel like they have to uphold this image of it's all good and they actually love us, but it's actually a very, like I said, toxic, toxic pairing and it's based off of trauma. Where did you come across her? YouTube. Oh, the YouTubes. I'm going to miss it when it blows up. Well, we'll replace it. I'm going to miss it when we bankrupt YouTube. We will have to replace it. We had to archive it somewhere. I got to say it was still one of the best inventions ever.

2:51:38 Too bad that's just owned by a bunch of dicks. But this is what it plays against them because you can go pluck out information like this. This is true. And then, you know, talk about it and say, okay, you see the trauma bonding. You see the, you know, everything she said is spot on. It looks good on the outside, but it's very toxic on the inside. And you don't have to uphold this image. And the image is black people vote for Democrats. That's the image. And. And it's becoming less and less taboo every day. It would just be easier to come out as gay than become out as a Republican. And that's not a joke.

2:52:20 No. It was far more acceptable. However, if you're a Republican and you come out as gay, you're in trouble. No points for you. No, because they counsel each other out. It's like, that's acceptable, but that other thing is like, yo, you know. Yeah, that can't work. But another term for trauma bonding is actually Stockholm Syndrome. And this is another, I mean, this is a term we're more familiar with. Yes, we've talked about it for sure. So what we want to do now is walk through these. First, they're going to explain Stockholm Syndrome. And then the following clips is going to give the traits of a person suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.

2:53:02 And we're going to see if it lines up or not. So let's get into 30 and this explanation of Stockholm Syndrome. Hey, everybody. Today, I want to talk about the Stockholm Syndrome, also known as trauma bonding, and why this is important if you have been in a narcissistically abusive relationship or what to look out for when you suspect that someone that you know is in one of these relationships. The Stockholm syndrome came from a bank robbery in Stockholm, Sweden, where they found that the people who were captured ended up developing empathy and a sense of almost like wanting to defend their abuser, falling in love with their abuser, with their captor in this situation.

2:53:48 And you can see how this applies to narcissistic abuse to so many different situations, but in particular, narcissistic abuse. Why? Yeah, this is good. This is good to go through this. All right. So I want to go back to T.I. and Charlemagne for a minute. Both of those men sold drugs in the time period that the 94 crime bill was active. And they still couldn't bring themselves to say Joe Biden was a bad person. Isn't that amazing? Yes. It's just that this was your adversary in the drug trade.

2:54:26 And not once, you don't turn away from, it's not like they turn away from the culture or drug dealing and that kind of thing because that the music is just saturated with it. So they didn't turn away from that. But then it's like, okay, then wouldn't Joe Biden still be the ops for lack of a better word? And it's like, no, no, he's a good person. He just got some bad stuff with him. This shows that Stockholm Syndrome, aka trauma bonding, that I can't say anything bad. And it's not really, the real power of it is not that you're going to,

2:55:04 you know, identify the problem with the person. It's that who am I now if I'm separated from my group? Yeah. And that's Joe Biden understood that. In his cloudy moments, he perked up and said, you ain't black if you don't vote for me. He was saying you will be shunned, ostracized, excommunicated from the community if you don't do what I say do. And they go out and they protect him. If this is not the clearest case of Stockholm syndrome, I don't know what you call it.

2:55:41 Why? Well, Stockholm Syndrome has four criteria. The first one being there's a perceived threat to your life where the victim feels like the abuser or the captor could in fact kill them. And this might be a physiological, a physical threat. They feel that they're actually going to die. They're going to kill their body. It might be a psychological threat. They might just fear that they're going to die. It might be a sense of like soul deaths where they're destroying your soul or a sense of identity theft where they are destroying your entire sense of self. That's it. That's exactly what it is. You ain't black.

2:56:19 Wow. Wow, wow, wow. I didn't realize that Stockholm Syndrome could be using that definition. It's yeah, it's very clear. And these think tanks sit around and they understand this. That's why every four years, these slave movies come out. And it's a meme going around just to show you the power of memes and waking people up. They'll say celebrating Black History Month. And then they have the Netflix kind of recommendations. You know, they're like 12 years of slave. And they'll have all these different slave or traumatic movies and stuff. This is the celebration. Yeah. But that's just like a double entendre for saying, see the power of the mainstream of the mainstream media.

2:57:04 Yeah. You know what's happening when Netflix does that? The algos are creating recommendations for white people because they want to vicariously experience the trauma themselves and they want to trauma bond with the trauma victims. Trauma bond. Yep. And the problem is, and this is where people thought, you know what I'm saying, may have got frustrated with me. I'm not holding any group accountable to deal with black people, so-called black people. It's the fact that we're no longer going to trauma bond with you. You use that clout and then go on and go into better things.

2:57:43 Every group that comes in new, whether it's a racial group or a sexual identity or whatever else, it's like, this is the new black. Or, you know what I'm saying? We're just like black people. And then they'll bond. They'll have that trauma bond. Then they'll receive tangibles and elevate themselves and go off and leave us. And then it'll happen again. And I don't hold those groups responsible. That's just like on the third rail. Yeah. If you can do it, do it. It's not up to somebody else to hold our hand and us to look for that hug. What it's up to us to say, and this is why I made that show: is say, if somebody says they're your ally, there needs to be some reciprocity there.

2:58:26 You know, it has to be, we both gain from this situation, not you gain from it, but then you pat me on my head and say, oh, poor little victim, you know, I'll get you next time. Right. Yeah, that sucks. That's no good. So you want to hear more about yes, yes, yeah, yeah. I'll hit 32. Hold on. The second criteria of Stockholm Syndrome is an act of kindness when the captor or abuser extends a small offer of kindness to the person being held hostage, to the victim in the relationship. That perceived kindness then tricks the brain, confuses the brain. Well, now, this is good analysis. They're there now.

2:59:09 Don't worry. Everything's going to be good. I'm going to take care of you. Here's your SCOTUS. Yeah. Here's your VP. You know, Malcolm X said, these little trinkets, these trinkets and tokens. Yep. Here's your crack pipes. All right. We got to get into the next one. This is just getting better as we go on. Let's go. The fourth criteria for Stockholm Syndrome is the perceived inability to escape, where the victim, the hostage, feels like there's no escape. There's no way out. This is where the learned helplessness comes in. The victim feels like it's hopeless, like they can never get out.

2:59:50 You know, maybe they got roped in financially to this person. The abuser didn't want them to get a job or told them to quit their job or sabotaged their reputation at work and they lost their job or just maybe they're self-employed, they're an entrepreneur, they have their own business and they just feel so crappy because of all this abuse that they can't put that energy into their business. The business is failing. They don't have the financial resources to get out. Interesting turn that she took there. Yeah, it goes. This is more on relationships base, racial base, but it lines up still. And that's the, what are you going to do without me? Right. You're like, you're like, hellmail without the blue notes.

3:00:30 You never go platinum. And you date yourself with that now. Come on. But that's, that's where, that's the mentality. It's like, where are you going to run to? You're going to run to those racing Republicans? Huh? You'll come, you'll come crying. You'll come back. Yeah, they're going to put you in chains. And we saw this with Amarosa. It was a great example of this. Remember, she went over and worked for Trump. Yep. And then they had their falling out. And it was like, no, no, no, you can't come back home Amarosa. No, no. That's right. Yep. That's right. Over. I guess we can go ahead and get into 34 now.

3:01:08 The Stockholm Syndrome, the trauma bond. This is why people can't leave. This is why they keep going back, why they get sucked back like a rubber band effect. Like they get away and then, and they're doing great. You're talking to them. And it's amazing. They have no contact with the abuser. And then all of a sudden they hear from the abuser and it's like that rubber band effect. They're right back in that relationship and you're going, oh my God, all that progress. All that time that you got away. What happened? Stockholm syndrome is what happened. This is a primal defense mechanism to survive. Right. It's like this, this is the primal method that the human brain and the nervous system react in these kinds of situations to keep you alive.

3:01:52 And the hook here, like the real hook here, is that kindness, the perceived kindness. So, you know, that goes along. with that intermittent reinforcement where at first the abuser idealizes and love bombs and gives you all this positive stuff. And then they start in with the devaluation, with the meanness, the cruelty, putting you down, you know, all of that kind of behavior. But then they're very careful to keep dosing you with those little things of kindness. Right. So it is, in effect, what's been done since slavery itself. Yes. I did. I never realized that Stockholm Syndrome was from two sides. I always thought it was only from the victim and not from the oppressor.

3:02:34 And that's the way, that's the way they act and play it out. And it was, I had a thought and I lost it. But yeah, it's just that that's the way, you know, I love you. I love you. I love you. You know, saying you made me do this to you. That whole scenario. And that's how this whole thing plays out. So, but if we can identify it, then you can treat it. That's right. That's where, that's what this is where the optimism comes in at. And you know, I never leave the people on a down note or doom and no, I know, I know. And I appreciate that because it always gives me a little bit of energy to continue for the next 14 days until I get another boost.

3:03:15 So we got to go back to Dr. Stephen Covey and seven habits. And we're still being proactive because we have to be proactive to escape this. You know, we have to, you know, say, you know, take and don't have to be always active in it. Of course, of course. Between what happens to us, the stimulus, whatever has happened to us, or what is now happening to us, between that stimulus and our response is a space. In that space lies our power and our freedom to choose our response. In these choices lie our growth and our happiness.

3:03:59 In other words, with the right choices, eventually the response we choose begins to influence the stimulus. This is what Victor Frankl discovered. And through exercising his memory, that is his self-awareness, and his imagination, and his conscience, by asking questions such as, what is this situation asking of me instead of what do I ask of it? Why are they doing this to me? And also by exercising his own independent will,

3:04:40 this freedom became larger and larger until it was larger than his Nazi captors. Not his liberty. Liberty is a condition of the environment. Liberty is a condition of the externals. Freedom is a condition of the person of the internals. We have control over our freedom, not in the short run, over our liberty. Wow. I've never heard him talk about this. That's great. That's a very, very good piece. And what are they trying to make racist now?

3:05:23 Freedom. Don't you get any ideas about things about that? No, don't be doing that. No, we already lost our liberty. I mean, it's on the table to completely lose it, but the moving about freely, and we saw what whole thing we were saying, the coup and everything like that. But your freedom, they don't, they're trying to say that's whiteness. Freedom is whiteness. It's racist. Yeah, that's a powerful one. I would never think in the day I would hear freedom being said as a negative.

3:06:05 Where do we jump that shark at? I want to know. Oh, I can tell you because I've been living this for the past two years. Freedom of speech. This is where this is what they attacked. Freedom of speech became freedom of speech advocates. It's got to be a Republican. It's got to be a conservative. It's got to be QAnon. Freedom of speech, free speech. How's your free speech zone? That's what happened. They attacked the word itself and turned it into a negative without even it being about the meaning of the word. But that's where you went off the rails. And that's where you're going. When you start saying stuff like that, and then they can play it back in short clips of people demonizing freedom, it makes you look crazy.

3:06:53 But I'll make. make the point that in between the stimulus and your response is where your true power lies. And if that worked for somebody that was in Nazi Germany, being experimented on the way Franco was being experimented on, the way we're being mentally experienced on, we can have the same results. If we say, you know what, I will not, you might have my liberty, but you won't take my freedom. I will maintain it at all costs. And you are the shining example of exactly that, Mo. Exactly that. Because you can't have it. You can't, no, you can't. That's the last thing that you can't have. You can't have my dignity and my freedom. I know.

3:07:37 So hopefully other people are saying, I'm glad that I can inspire other people. I just do it because it's second nature to me. And it's always been, and that's where it comes from parents and, you know, being raised the way I was raised. No, you never give anybody that kind of power over you. So I think we're down to the last clip. Yes, sir. You can go ahead and hop into it. We have control over our freedom, not in the short run, over our liberty. However, in many situations, not necessarily all, the more you control your freedom and expand and deepen it,

3:08:17 eventually you will influence the liberty of your life, the options, the alternatives that are available to you. Eventually, your head will create your world. Your response to the stimulus will eventually influence the stimulus. And to some degree, he experienced that. He also had the hypothesis, or tried to look at the hypothesis. What enables these people in the death camps to survive? Is it their survival skills? No.

3:08:59 Is it their intelligence? No. Is it their health? No. Those things were eventually equalized, lost, helped a little initially, but eventually they were gone. Is it their family structure? No. The thing that enabled survival was a vision of the future. A sense of meaning about a work yet to do. A contribution yet to make. Wow. These are words to live by, ma'am. And this is what's happening. The fact when people start exercising their freedom and say, I'm not going to go along.

3:09:41 And it's a lot of people that took those slings and arrows, called very nasty names, but they persisted on. And then they started impacting the stimulus. That the fact that, you know, they can't even say certain words anymore. They can't even come in at it certain ways anymore. That it just points out who they are. And that's why I'm completely optimistic because it's only going to get bigger. It's only going to get stronger at this point. I mean, they're going to have to just crank down on the liberty. I mean, because if they can't destroy your liberty, I mean, your freedom, then they just had to crank down more on your liberty. Very restricting that. Very interesting how we talked about the third rail on the previous episode.

3:10:22 And you end this episode with a clip that says, that shows how the half of the third rail equation, the Jews in Nazi Germany, how they use these seven highly effective habits. And here we are. We can all learn from it. You can learn anything about it for anybody. And that's the thing. You take what works. That's the beauty of all this. If it works, borrow it, change it to your circumstances, adapt it, and improve upon it. And that's America in itself. That's the real America, is that.

3:11:05 And it's just a beautiful thing. Also, the real America is this show, Mo. For me, it is at least. I love what we're doing. I love what you've done. I love what you've put together. And I, once again, can't wait for the next episode. It's a fantastic job. And as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. And would everybody please remember to support us with your time, talent, and treasure at mofacts.com. And Mo, I look forward to speaking in 14 days. Thank you so much. All right. See you later, Adam. All right, everybody. Take care. If loving you is wrong, I don't want to be right.

3:11:48 If being right. right means being without you, I'd rather live a longer lie. Your mama and daddy say it's a shame, it's a downright disgrace. But long as I got you by my side, I don't care what your people say. My friends tell me it's no future in loving a married man. If I can't see you when I want, I'll have to see you when I can. If loving you is wrong, I don't wanna be right.

3:12:32 If loving you is so wrong, baby, I don't wanna be right. Am I wrong to fall so deeply in love with you when you have a wife and two little children depending on me too? Am I wrong to hunger for the gentleness of your touch? When you have someone else at home who needs you just as much

3:13:13 to a married man and am I wrong for trying to hold on to the best thing I ever had? If loving you is wrong, I don't wanna be right if loving you is wrong. I don't wanna be right, baby. No, baby, am I wrong to give my love to a married man

3:14:00 Am I wrong for trying to hold on to the best thing I ever had if loving you is so wrong? I don't wanna be right If loving you is wrong, baby I just can't be right I don't wanna be right No, baby I don't wanna be right Oh baby what you need you got to have your