47: Killer Wasp

00:13 Mo Facts with Adam Curry for August 22nd, 2020. This is episode number 47. Has he been eaten by his dog, or did the dog eat his homework? Hey, Mo. How is the Adam? Good, man. How's the pup? How's the pup doing? Everything's good with him. He's a busy body, but he's integrating through the family just fine. Yeah. How's the I got the early morning shift? I was going to say, I was going to say, so you're early morning. How's the training overnight? Is he hanging in there? Yeah, we're crating him now. He's he wants about 30 minutes, but then he quiets down. So he's a good dog. Oh, okay.

00:55 Well, good, good, Mo. And we're on schedule. It's a Saturday. We're dropping it as we're supposed to, which is good. This is good. We have progress. We're improving. This is a value for value production. It means very simply, you can listen to it anytime you want. Costs nothing. But if you found anything of value, we'd just like you to put that into a number and send it off to support the show, to support the work. You can find that at mofundme.com or, of course, any information at mofacts.com. And today is episode 47. I have to say, it was hard for me not to realize what the topic would be just with a quick glance at your clip list. I'm very excited about this. This is stuff that I've always wanted to know from a different perspective.

01:39 Well, I guess to find out, you got to spin that wheel. Alrighty, here we go. It's the wheel of topics for Mo Facts number 47. Where it stops, nobody knows, but obviously Mo does know, and you're going to love this one, I'm pretty sure. What is the topic for today's Mo Facts? The biggest wasp on the planet. The biggest wasp on the planet. The Bee Sting, the Wasp Sting, Killer Wasps? Yes, definitely Killer Wasp. Okay, definitely Killer Wasp.

02:14 That's a great. So this is going to be one of those ones. I started off in one direction down the rabbit hole and I took a hard right somewhere and ended up in a total different place. So please bear with me. I think it'll be an exciting ride. Okay. I'm ready for it. I'm buckled in. I guess we can jump to number two then. Thanks for staying with us. Time now for Eye on Africa with me, Georgia Calvin Smith. Tonight, the WHO strongly rejects the controversial suggestions made by French scientists last week that coronavirus vaccine testing should happen in Africa.

02:53 Critics of the on-air remarks have slammed them for being racist and born of a damaging colonial outlook. But first, the head of the WHO has condemned suggestions made on air by French scientists last week that potential coronavirus vaccines should be tested in Africa. Jean-Paul Mira, head of intensive care at the Cushat Hospital in Paris, first asked if he could be provocative before questioning Camille Locht, head of research at the National Institute of Health and Medical Research in Lille, whether a study into using the BCG vaccine should happen in Africa. He compared it to past studies and to AIDS that tested treatments on prostitutes.

03:34 WHO Chief Tedros Adhanom Gebréesos was one of many who condemned the tone of the conversation as being racist. Yeah, this now, I've studied vaccines for a long time. I've been following the development, but following the financial path, following the regulation, but I've also looked extensively into HIV, Gates Foundation, Africa. So I'm very curious what rabbit holes you found and if they cross over any of the tunnels I may have left behind in the past. So what we're going to do here is we're going to start looking at the narrative of getting so-called black people vaccinated.

04:16 Yes. And it's starting in Africa. The killer wasps are in Africa and they're wreaking havoc all over the African people. I think the testing has just started in South Africa under a lot of pushback. And so this is a clip from France 24. And the following clip would be from the same report, but featuring Dr. Tedross. To be honest, I was so appalled. And it was a time when I said when we needed solidarity, this kind of racist remarks actually would not help.

04:59 goes against the solidarity. Africa cannot and will not be a testing ground for any vaccine. We will follow all the rules to test any vaccine or therapeutics all over the world using exactly the same rule. Whether it's in Europe, Africa, or wherever, we will use the same protocol. And if there is a need to be tested elsewhere, to treat human beings the same way, equally. And the hangover from a colonial mentality has to stop.

05:40 Sure. And WHO will not allow this to happen. Now, the doctors have apologized for any offense caused and say that they've been misunderstood. Africa has seen far fewer cases of COVID-19 than Europe, the United States, and the Middle East. Okay, a couple things. I just fill in a couple things here before you get to that last bit. One, Tedros. Tedros is a, he's, I want to say he's from Nigeria. Ethiopia. Ethiopia. Ethiopia, that's formerly Ethiopia. That's now Eritrea. Yes. And it was the Chinese Communist Party who lobbied for him to get this job.

06:24 There's a huge commercial bridge between what is formerly known as Ethiopia and China, which, as far as I know, never closed during the pandemic. And so Tedros is 100% shill. He's not a medical doctor, even though they call him Dr. Tedros to give him that kind of Dr. Jill Biden medical vibe. Yeah, I was going to make that point that he's not actually, I got five things here. There may be problems with Mr. Dr. Excuse me, Dr. Tedross. One, he's not actually a medical doctor. He has a master's degree in immunology. Two, he's a far-left politician that was put in place by

07:07 China that you mentioned before. Number three, he exhibits very poor judgment when he was dealing with in Zimbabwe. Yes, it was scandalous. It was scandalous. They had some issues there that we might talk about later on. Number four is the China connection that you made. And then five, he's been an awful health minister. I think he may be swayed and pro vaccines because he lost a brother due to the measles.

07:48 It would have nothing else to do with money and power. Well, we always talk about the, we always talk about the human aspect of these people and what may shape them. How we did it with Trump. We did it with Obama. We do everybody basically look at the human side of them. And he might believe it helps to do what you do if you actually believe it. And so I think maybe he actually believes that he's doing a good thing and he can line his pockets at the same time. Yeah. And just on the vaccination of Africans in general, the Gates Foundation has a poor record, particularly in combination with the Clinton Global Health Initiative, where they literally bought crap vaccines from some French company and unloaded them on unwilling kids.

08:36 And a lot of them died. And this is documented. In fact, the police. And the bad blood scandal. I mean, and the bad blood scandal. Yeah, with the cancer. It was all kinds of good stuff. Yeah. Just to give you a little background on Dr. Tedros, let me say this before I go into this next clip. I'm starting to see brown doctors being rolled out. There was one medical doctor they rolled out. It was an older black lady or appeared to be an older black lady, and she was all for getting black people vaccinated. You have Dr. Tedros, where he appears to be black, but he's not ADOS. Let's point it out. He's 100% African.

09:19 Yeah, so you start to see this. Like, why notice these things that why are they rolling these same people, these same-looking people with the similar appearances out to do the talking? And you'd have Africa, which has one of the lowest per capita infected rates. Yes, which we believe may be because they already take a lot of hydroxychloroquine to count as prophylaxics for malaria, etc. And what am I thinking of? Malaria. Is it malaria? No, it is malaria. malaria. It's like anti-malarial diseases. I mean, anti-malarial medicines that they take, which may have suppressed, because the first show we did on the Rona, we talked about the low numbers in Africa and that leading to the speculation that black people couldn't catch COVID, which

10:13 it has been debunked now. I think we know by now that's not true. Yes. And it went, the pendulum went all the way to the other that, you know, basically we're the face of corona, even though it does come from China. It's actually a racist virus. It's going after going after black and brown people, apparently. Apparently, so. So I did a little homework on Dr. Ted Dross. And the coronavirus vaccine is not the only vaccine he's pushing for. Every two minutes, a woman loses her life to cervical cancer. This does represent our collective failure to protect women from a preventable disease.

10:59 Two years ago, WHO launched an initiative to eliminate cervical cancer. Since then, we have worked with our partners to develop a unified strategy to achieve that goal. Our aim is to drive cervical cancer below four per 100,000 women in every country within a century, preventing over 70 million deaths. The idea of eliminating any cancer was once considered a pipe dream. We now have the evidence and the tools that show it can be done.

11:39 Vaccination, screening, treatment, palliative care. We cannot cherry pick. We must pursue them all. The COVID-19 pandemic has disrupted many essential health services and is likewise a risk to services for cervical cancer. It's vital that countries ensure routine services such as vaccination and cancer screening continue with the appropriate safety precautions. Let me guess. Is this the Gardasil HPV vaccine that he's talking about?

12:18 Yes. And this happened at the 33rd International Human Paviloma Virus Conference. And this was from July 20th through the 24th on 2020. And I think a lot of companies are like, hey, y'all are stepping on our vaccine. So he had to go out. Oh, definitely. Oh, I mean, we were talking about it a couple of days ago on No Agenda. Twindemic. It's the same thing. Hey, hey, hey, what about the flu vaccine? We got to sell that too, man. Yeah, it could be a twin demic. We got to get the flu vaccine. Oh, yeah. It's a big, it's a big marketing push right now. So it could be a tridemic. I mean, yes. Because, I mean, you're pushing the

13:05 cervical cancer as well. So I think a lot of companies is like, hey, you shut down our flow because people are scared to go to the hospital, scared to go get treatments, vaccines, and all those things. These other companies, like, hey, we got the long game going here. Like you said, the flu shot. That's where you see the twin demit popping up. And then he's pushed out here pushing in the middle of the COVID. Yeah. He has to go out and still push for the cervical cancer vaccine. Yeah, the LEV. Like Dr. Tedros, I am not a medical doctor, but I can tell you that of the, I believe, 23 different strains, the HPV guard is, we studied this extensively, but really the marketing side is the most interesting.

13:50 It really only can protect you against three different versions of it. But the marketing would start off towards, of course, mothers, girls, young girls. They were hanging info packets on college dorm room doorknobs. Then, of course, they said, oh, boys got to have it too because for your cervix. And there's some evidence that HPV can cause throat cancer, which was really kind of thrown into the media when Michael Douglas said he got throat cancer from oral sex with his wife, which he later said. You got to have the celebrity Pishman. You got to have a celebrity Pishman up front. Yeah, it really worked.

14:34 And then later it wasn't true, but Kat was out of the bag. And of course, when this first was administered, there were all kinds of weird effects. There were groups of girls who could only walk backwards, were all ticking and going, making crazy. crazy noises. It was really, when that first started, it was quite intense to see what was going on. So we have history of vaccines being a problem, especially for so-called, so-called quote-unquote black people. Yeah, and let's just say, I don't think we're anti-vaxxers. We're just having a conversation here in general. I am not an anti-vaxxer, but I am an anti-stacker.

15:16 So you should give four or five or ten different vaccines at once. 67 total. I mean, that's what your kids, I'm sure they're trying to get your kids to take all that crap. And then on top of that, then we have this next set of clips that come from the Mayo Clinic. Let me just set it up for a second. They study Somali Americans, but they just refer to it as African Americans. So we have this inflation of the male brown people. Right. Yeah. Wait. This is the description from the video. It says Somali Americans. Well, I won't give it away, but that, because it'll give too much.

15:57 But they found this interesting phenomenon. And just to say, I don't have the doctor's name because they didn't have it, but it's from the Mayo Clinic. And we'll just refer to him as Dr. Pokem. Okay. The most outstanding and to some degree unexpected difference that we found is that African Americans have much higher antibody responses to this viral vaccine, rubella, than we have seen in any other population. Why would that be? Well, that's the subject of the next set of studies. But it's really a foundational finding in this respect.

16:38 We sort of have a population-level approach to medicine. We do it with drugs, we do it with vaccines. We assume everybody's alike and that they all respond the same. This is the basis of personalized or individualized medicine. Our group has been among the first to show that what we know for how people respond to drugs turns out to also be true in how people respond to biologics like vaccines. So you and I may respond very differently as a cohort, say, of Caucasians, but my colleague who's African American and the population of African Americans turn out to have a much better response to that vaccine.

17:21 Huh. Okay, so a couple things. Rubella is German measles, which apparently is really dangerous for pregnant women, but who knows? That may have been put into our brain early on as well. And the term biologics, which he used there, that is a category of medicine which vaccines fall under. And the reason why they created that is because you cannot be sued for a biologic. There's indemnification. There's no path. There is a the U.S. government has a fund if you've been damaged by vaccines, but it's a process and it's not very well known.

18:01 But the biologics was that class of medicine was created specifically for vaccinations and indemnification. And this particular vaccination, he says it had a better response for African Americans. I don't know what he means by better response. Does that mean greater immune system agitation? That's a good question. I don't know. Well, you would presume that, you know, so this is the problem with these vaccines. It's like polio vaccine, you got it, you're done. But all these others, like, oh, I got to come back for a booster because it's obviously not 100% effective. So I think what he's saying is the efficacy rate would be higher.

18:40 I don't know if that, but it sounded pretty unscientific. It was just him saying his friends. So it wasn't really like, here's it. And by the way, where are the peer-reviewed studies? And where's the media about this? And then the cohort of Caucasians. I love that terminology used there. But in all seriousness, you're saying vaccines affect different ethnic groups differently. So instead of having eight vaccines, don't you think you need to have 24 of these COVID vaccines going? One for black, one for brown people. But this goes to show you, this is a perfect example of systemic racism because white people are the default.

19:27 That's a very good point. So I'm just want to show people these things, these things exist, but we don't talk about them in the right way. How is it that he clearly from the Mayo Clinic is not some quack as seen by the medical industry or the medical field, because he works for the Mayo Clinic, he's saying that these vaccines affect different ethnic groups differently, but we don't know, but trust our data. It's like you don't know how it's going to affect my kids because you did the study on another group of kids, but you want them to trust your science. That's very troubling. When I heard this, I was like, this blows everything that we know about vaccines out of the water.

20:12 Thank you. That's a very good point. That's, yeah, absolutely. Well, I mean, the whole booster thing by itself is weird, but then, oh, well, it works differently on different people. Oh, hold on a second. So, what is the system? What exactly is going on? You're right. And are you the only one of my black friends who worries about this, or is this common? Oh, no, this is widespread, and we'll get there in a minute. Another thing that's discussed. Another thing that's discussed. Yeah, another thing not discussed. But let's continue with Dr. Pocum. Well, this is really important in terms of how we deliver vaccines, how we design vaccines, perhaps the safety of vaccines. And this is new information in the biologic field that I think is going to change how we practice medicine.

20:57 The vaccine, in essence, is working differently. The question is why? It's the same vaccine in human beings, administered the same way, and yet it stimulates a very different set of gene expression and protein secretion, that protein being antibody that protects us when we see the virus. In Japan and in Europe, we're seeing outbreaks of rubella and measles. They're vaccines that are given together, primarily because of people rejecting the vaccine out of unfounded fears about the safety of the vaccine.

21:35 But the interesting thought occurs to me: maybe we only have to give African Americans half the size dose that we give to Caucasians. That's an example of individualizing our approach to somebody. Eventually, what will happen is it won't be something as complicated as race. It will be genetically based. So we will look at somebody's genes that are important to developing immunity and, based on which ones they carry, say, you don't need the vaccine. You're not at any risk. Or you need twice the dose of the average person or half the dose. Or you're at risk for this kind of side effect. And that changes how we practice medicine.

22:17 It's an exciting new era in that regard. I'm just going to say one thing. How can anything? He said that they make decisions on unfounded claims. How can it be unfounded when you're uncertain what your science is? Yeah, well, I think this is a sales pitch, what he's doing here. And here's why I think that. So, first of all, he's absolutely right. It's a very exciting time in medicine. This is when I first saw how exciting it was for them at the JP Morgan Financial Conference for vaccines. And they were all like, oh my God, this is great. We get to treat people before they're even sick. Wow. As many as possible. And they had vaccines for smoking addiction and all kinds of, you know, is that really a vaccine?

23:00 No, but it fell under biologic. So that's part one. Part two is, I think he's really pushing towards exactly what they're trying to do with the modern vaccines, in particular Moderna, which is Dr. Fauci's favorite. And this is an RNA vaccine. It's never been tried. We're going to get that, Curry. We're going to get there. Turn the goggles on. All right. Let me just put it this. Personalized medicine is what they're going for. And then I will leave it at that. For those that can afford it. Well, hello. First, we test it on black people and then we give it to

23:42 calibrate it. Get a baseline. Yeah, get a baseline. It's like, ah, that's that's pretty harsh on the Negroes. But I'm glad you pointed that out because when you, you know, yeah, it's that is just systemically racist. He's only thinking of his baseline, which is white people. And then, oh, what a surprise. It works differently on those people. So clearly, not caring as much. This goes back to the racist numbers. Yeah, the math. Yeah. We talked about a few shows ago where, you know, how they use the numbers. Remember what they did with super predators? Yeah, they did. They said, okay, let's look at the small group of numbers. Right. They use the model.

24:22 And then they extrapolate it to the larger population and say, oh, my God, we're going to have a million super predators running the streets. Which it wasn't true. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And so now they're doing the same thing. It's like two million Somalis. Yeah. Same thing, man. Yeah, they're all brown. I mean, who cares? You're on the community. It's, it's, it's, it's troubling. And even more troubling is this next clip from the NIAIAD. Uh, they have a doctor, uh, Kismika. Uh, no, Kiz, yeah, Kismika, Kiz, Me, Kia, Kizmakia, Corbett, which I'm gonna say this:

25:11 who was ever picking these people? Get better names, first of all. No, no, no, no, no. The name is good. No, the name is good because it's an ethnic-seeming name. It's the same thing with Barack, how he went barbari his whole life, but when he decided to run for president, he switched to Barack because it seems more ethnic. So, I'm not going to denigrate this sister in any way because she's a so-called black woman, very dark-skinned, attractive, and she has an ethnic-sounding name. So, they put her out front, and what she's going to do is talk about the NIAID's vaccine research center and their developed

25:53 efforts to develop the new RNA vaccine that you're that I have my goggles on for. Yes, okay. This is the protein that is on the surface of a coronavirus, and it is the protein that the virus uses to attach to the cell and then enter the cell. What an mRNA vaccine is, is we're essentially delivering the genetic material. So, we're delivering the messenger RNA that encodes our mutated novel coronavirus spike. The messenger RNA will tell the body to present this spike protein, and the body will respond by creating an immune response.

26:40 And hypothetically, if all goes well, then that immune response will then be able to see a novel coronavirus before a person gets infected and prevent that infection. We started this collaboration with Moderna because we wanted to utilize our antigen concept, so our vaccine concept, but deliver it via their platform. So, what that means is that we take our sequence from the VRC and we give it to Moderna, and Moderna develops the vaccine.

27:18 Oh, yeah, they own half of it, the NIAID. Yeah. So, basically, what she's for people that want to fall along at home, think about it as a missile. They have the warhead, the payload, and Moderna has the rocket or the delivery mechanism. And that's based they're working together, and then you're hopeful your immune system sees Moderna's vehicle as like a Trojan horse that allows it to get inside the genes or the cell. And then the RNA delivers the recoding to look for the coronavirus, which this is all.

28:00 So, the last guy was Dr. Pokem. He was talking about the old vaccine way. Yeah, which now, and they don't have no understanding of that as clear as he was saying on the racial, ethnic differences of the person that's receiving the vaccine. But now, here they come with a whole new way of doing vaccines. And it's, I think, what they said, like years, it takes years before you can qualify a vaccine. Typically, and we're shaving it down. It can be three years to 12 years, it can be really long depending. But, you know, it's also the government pre-finance it all. We pre-purchased Moderna, Johnson Johnson, I think Merck.

28:44 So, we have about $4 billion, half a billion dollars each to eight different vaccines, of which Moderna is the favorite to win because Fauci is the head of NIAID. They also own half the patents in personal title. But they want to take it to Africa and black and brown communities in America. It's like we don't know what this is going to do. It's something totally new, and we're just going to give it to black people and brown people. No, no, no, brown and browner people. No, no, no, no, that's not what he's saying. He's saying we're going to test all kinds of cool variations on black and brown people.

29:26 That's what he's saying. Yeah, let's figure this one out. This is cool. And you wonder why we knowing this, knowing what. what we talked about on this show about Tuskegee experiment, all of those things, you think we wouldn't be a little apprehensive about taking a vaccine? Not only that, you'd think that guys like Fauci, and he's closing in on 80, it might stick in his mind to think, you know, we should probably do a little extra work here to make sure that we're really on the up and up and everyone feels comfortable because, but if you want to say it, no, because he's actually racist, he's not thinking about that.

30:11 And you want to test the most vulnerable. So even if, say, I'm healthy, you want to test it on me, but then I go back into general population with my family members, and I have this bug that you shot me up with, and I don't know how it's going to impact the other people. Because everybody talks about how you get sick after you get the flu vaccine. I mean, you get a little sick because they're giving you a little piece of the virus. And that's what you want to do. I don't think that's a good idea. Well, it's happening right now in Houston. I mean, they are testing, and these people are in the wild. They're throwing people out in the wild. Let me say a couple of things about that.

30:50 One, growing up as a kid, I had this guy that lived next door to me. He was a young man. He was my brother's age. So probably eight years older than me at the time. And he survived off. He survived off of taking medical trials. That's how he lived. I mean, you come, you know, you see those commercials. Come down here. Let me shoot you up with this and take this pill. And, you know, we study for six months. Podcasting is really only one step above that lifestyle mode. So. No, I'm just saying. So these things, and we used to call them medical wheel because we found it to be strange. No, no, shit, you.

31:31 I crap you not. That we found, even at the young, I mean, well, I was about 14, 15 years old. I found that to be strange. Like, that's how you make money to let them run tests on you. But now it's widespread. But I will say this: there's several new art or written, there was written news articles. I couldn't find any clips. But the average in America, people willing to take the vaccine is about 50%. The willing participation of black people is like 25%. So that answers your question: we're not on board with this at all. I mean, there's even my mom, which fought, she falls into the category of high risk.

32:16 I mean, just for age and ethnic, you know, ethnic group. She don't have, I don't think she has any comorbidities other than, you know, I don't think she has any. But, you know, she, she's with them canceling church and which shocked me. But when it came to the vaccine, she drew a hard line. She's, I'm not taking their vaccine. I'm not taking it. So. And did she elaborate or she just said, I'm not taking it. That's it. That's it. It's a hard stop. And a lot of people, a lot of black people are at that point. And not only black people, because I have this pastor Charles Lawson, which he is a white pastor, I think, in a church out in Tennessee.

33:00 You may want to play a little theorem in, maybe not. But well, I'll listen and see if it warrants it. The theramen starts all by itself. Right. So he gives a warning on do not take the COVID vaccine. We are living prophecy. No question in my mind. We are living Bible prophecy. A man by the name of Robert F. Kennedy Jr., you'd think, I don't know that he's any kin, but he says that almost no one understands what's at stake. State. He said, no one understands what's at stake. Pharma has 80 COVID vaccines in development.

33:40 80 of them. But Bill Gates and Fauci pushed Moderna's Frankenstein jab to the front of the line. What are you talking about, preacher? Scientist and ethicist are sounding alarms. The vaccine uses a new, untested, and very controversial experimental RNA technology. Stop for a moment. DNA is the code that is in your body. That code is passed from generation to generation. But it's simply code. It's like an encyclopedia. It's like a book of knowledge. All this information.

34:20 RNA reads it. And RNA takes what it reads and through its own process, disseminates it into the body. Free. Preach? Yeah, I'm joining his church. This is exactly what's going on. And this is exactly why I think they wanted to close churches down. There is a truther movement inside of the church, no matter the ethnic group. Nice one. Very good. Yes. When you see the Illuminati, Satanic, that kind of thing. Yeah. That goes hand in hand. And really, the Truther community is

35:01 the meeting place. It was a meeting place for us. I mean, let's just be honest. Conspiracies are the meeting place where you can get people from different races to kind of agree on certain things. And it didn't help that the, what was the, what was the bill name? Like 6666. It was Bill 0666, something weird like that. Weird like that. And then his patent is the same thing. It has like multiple sixes in it. So it's not a far reach. When you start talking about recoding DNA and playing God, I mean, that's basically what that's how it's seen as a believers as they're playing God.

35:44 And then we're going to talk about this subject, and I'm just going to lightly broach it. CRISPR. Yes. I think CRISPR is the most dangerous thing in our times. And that's greater than COVID, greater than nuclear weapons, greater than anything else is CRISPR. And what CRISPR does, it lets them go in and modify genes and DNA on a level they can't even understand. Well, here's what's really interesting about it. The technology for CRISPR is pretty much readily available. You can already take a DNA sequence. You can use CRISPR CRSPR.

36:26 I think that's what it is. Yes, yes. And you can already use CRISPR as open source code and you can rearrange that. And really all it needs is just being reintroduced into the host of the DNA. It's like this guy's, I know guys who were, and I know them because of ham radio, believe it or not. Another very racist hobby. Not enough black people on ham radio. He's an electrical engineer, and he's moved over to this bioengineering.

37:04 So now they're all learning CRISPR and DNA sequences. And you can run this stuff on a Windows 10 machine at home. That's scary. No, I'm legit scared now because you also see these things cropping up with these genetically modified mosquitoes that they're just kind of throwing out there. It's like, yeah, we release 200,000 genetically modified mosquitoes into the wild. And I assume CRISPR is the method that they're genetically modifying by. But I will broach that subject in further detail later down the line because I saw a very troubling

37:46 TED talk on CRISPR that never left me. Yeah, it was indeed the COVID vaccine bill was House Resolution 666. Yeah. Now you see what feeds people like Pastor Charles Lawson and maybe even my own mother. I'm not taking this thing. They're not sticking that evil stuff in me. No. If my mom would have knew that part of it, which I doubt she does, it's definitely a no-go on the vaccine because no, no 666 there. But the church connection is very astute. That is, man, bang on. This makes so much sense. Like, keep them away from that.

38:28 Okay. And let's give you another example of what to keep them away from. Let's hear Pastor Charles Lawson part two. And very controversial, experimental, RNA technology. Stop for a moment. DNA is the code that is in your body. That code is passed from generation to generation. But it's simply code. It's like an encyclopedia. It's like a book of knowledge. All this information. RNA reads it. And RNA takes what it reads. And through its own process, disseminates it into the body. So here we go. It tells us that the vaccine uses a new untested and very controversial experimental RNA.

39:13 Technology that Gates has backed for over a decade. Instead of injecting an antigen and adjuvant as with traditional MAX vaccines. Moderna plugs a small piece of coronavirus genetic code into human cells, altering DNA throughout the human body and reprogramming our cells to produce antibodies to fight the virus. MRNA vaccines are a form of genetic engineering called germline gene editing.

39:53 Moderna's genetic alterations are passed down to future generations. Yeah, baby. Guess what we could put in there? All kinds of cool splicing. Yeah, if this, if this, this is, in fact, the most important medical test they could ever do. And they've, if intentional, it's been arranged beautifully. It has, and the pressure points that come with it. Let's just talk about the pressure points before we continue on here. What I mean by pressure points is this. Most people only vaccinate their kids so they can have access to free child care, aka public schools.

40:37 Yeah, exactly. Let's just be honest here. You bet. And I'm one of them. I'm one of them. Sure. I'm not preaching from a place of I know better, that kind of thing. When you're a low-income family or lower to middle-income family, public schools is a necessity. Okay. So now, what have they done? Cancel schools. Yeah. Right? Yeah. Oh, yeah. And this is never, this is one of my, it sticks in my craw. This irks me a lot. All the discussion is really a very privileged one.

41:16 It's not a discussion of poverty that the news media has when it comes to opening schools or not. The people who are speaking are all people of incredible privilege who are speaking. They have no, they are not giving any view of what it's really like in a lot of America. But I think that's a good thing. What I want to say that is we have to stop letting other people indoctrinate our children. And you're going to hear later on why I made that point, but let me just get back to the pressure point. So if your kids are out of school and you're not privileged,

41:55 to use your term, privileged enough to work from home, say like I am. I can bounce to the kids' table, help them, and then bounce back to work. But if you actually have to leave the house, then they say, and they say your kids cannot come back to school unless they get this RNA vaccine. What are you going to do? Yeah, well, we all know what we have to do. Go with go find a way to get a fake vaccination certificate, obviously. And by the way, Mo, I'm on it, Broseph. I'm figuring out how this works. Yeah. Oh, there'll be a huge treatment.

42:34 Yeah, there's going to be a huge treatment. Or if they say, I can't go back to work unless I take the vaccine. Yeah. Another pressure point. So they have us right where they want us to make us take this thing. Oh, it's going to get much worse. I think it'll be football stadiums, movie theaters, maybe even the mall. It's going to be much more widespread. Yeah, kids is the problem. I guess we can live without the mall, live without going to concerts or football games, but for poor people, their kids have to go to school. And it's like, well, you know, the old ones will die off.

43:14 So, I mean, we won't make them get the vaccine. And if we get the kids, then when they don't pass the, they'll pass it on. According to Dr. Mean, excuse me, according to Pastor Charles Lawson, once you inject the children, then all their other children will be vaccinated through birth. Yeah, it seems like a kind of a shitty business model, quite honestly. It's only good for one generation. Somehow, I don't believe that. Well, you got the boosters. I mean, of course, they're going to go back with the boosters. That's already started. Yeah, they've already started with boosters. Already talked about it. Yeah, so it's very scary, especially when you start to look at other things that the medical industry have done.

43:58 And we talked about on the show. This is from show 29. Dr. Randy Short talked about the Depo Vera shot. Can you talk about what you know about the health effects, though? Because obviously women were being administered this for years without knowing about them. Well, the drug was first patented in 1959 by the middle 60s. there were a lot of unethical experimentations done, in particular, the Grady Clinic study in Georgia on poor black and poor white women. God knows how many people died. This drug did not get approved until 1993, 94. But during that time, that was used on women all over. The effects of it are serious.

44:43 Yeah, it was worldwide. It was really bad. So that's recent history. We're talking like 80s, 90s, and maybe even up to the 2000, early 2000s. And remember, we played the clips from Planned Parenthood still saying it was good. Oh, no, it's good. It's good for you. This is why people are so apprehensive, especially black and brown people are apprehensive about taking this vaccine because we've heard the horror stories and they're more like urban legend. So we don't want any part of it. Well, I would just point everybody towards Robert Kennedy Jr.

45:27 He's the one that's spearheading. He started, he started getting interested in vaccine. He's not anti-vaxxer. He was interested because he was working on getting mercury out of the water so we wouldn't have mercury poisoned fish. And all these moms would show up everywhere he talked and they would just show up and they would show up. And then they kept saying, look, there's mercury in the vaccines and this is what happened to my kid. And he couldn't ignore it at a certain point. And then he started to look into it. And that was the thimerosol, which we heard the pastor talking about, which is an adjuvant, which is kind of like a hamburger helper of vaccine. You know, you throw a little bit of meat in there, you throw the adjuvant in, and boom, you got a full burger for just a fraction of the price.

46:12 And so he's all about safe vaccines. That's the traditional method. And he, I mean, he's looking at this MRA stuff and he's scratching his head going, what? And he's getting pretty vocal about it. And Pastor Charles Lawson even referred to him at the beginning of this clip about him. That's right. So his message is spreading like wildfire. And then the problem with that is that with the weight of the Kennedy name, that carries a certain weight to it as well. Well, the weight is, is that it's easy to kill them off, you know, because it's like, oh, another Kennedy's dead. No one's going to care. So that's the problem I see for him. That's a true point.

46:54 That's like, oh, Heather Kennedy, whatever. It's expected to happen. Well, so I got this next clip out of your clip bag. This is Sank Fauci and Dr. Collins, the BFFs, and they talk about vaccinating black and brown people. And it will be important to encourage people to enroll. So people who are watching this right now might want to pay attention in two or three weeks to announcements that there might be a vaccine trial enrollment somewhere in your neighborhood. We will depend on the public to sign up and help us figure this out. Let's be clear. These vaccines have already gone through phase one and phase two trials.

47:38 So we know that they've been safe, significant number of individuals, and we know that they seem to be capable of raising antibodies, but we haven't actually done the real testing in the field that is going to be in the so-called phase three trials. But particularly, Tony, it seems to me because this disease, COVID-19, has hit particular groups really hard. And I'm talking about older people, people with chronic disease, African Americans, Latinos. We want to be sure that the vaccine enrollment includes those folks as well. When you're dealing with HIV, there's a disparity of susceptibility, of involvement.

48:16 13% of the American population is African American and 45 to 50% of the new infections. So whenever we do treatment and prevention trials through our networks, we outreach through community representatives and community outreach. We're going to use that same model to do the same thing for the African-American, Latinx, and Native American populations. It works so well with AIDS. What could possibly go wrong? So you heard Fauci say we use community outreach. So that's why you're seeing Dr. Corbett Kismika, Kismakia, Kismakia. That's the hell of a name.

48:59 She's the Kismakia. She's the perfect pitch. She's a perfect pitch person. She fits the community guidelines. Attractive, dark-skinned nickname. I've also seen, because I watched some of the Houston local stations and one of the new. news anchors, she may have been, I don't think she's a news anchor or a weather person. She was apparently the first person ever to get the Moderna vaccine in the public trial. She's Adolph's. Is she a light? I mean, let's just lighter skin. I know who you talk about. Lighter skin, yeah. Light skin, shapely woman. She as shapely as the children. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think she. Oh, she's a super, she's a social media superstar. Well, there's your community outreach right there.

49:40 That's what I saw. I know exactly who you talk. I can't call her name, but you see her pop up on your social media feed because of what she has on more than the most than weather she's promoting. So to quote Trump, what's something bad about that? Yeah, no. Well, you have your vaccine vixen there. Yeah, vaccine vixen. Nice. Vax victim. I mean, yeah, so that's what they're doing. They're catering to the lowest common denominator with people to get them to trust these representatives of Fauci, of Moderna, of NIAID.

50:26 And they're using basically what the Boulet. This is how the Boulet was formed. It's like we need doctors and preachers. Right. So medical bullet. Yeah, for sure. For sure. It's crazy. So I have this next clip. This is actually Dr. Bill and Melinda Gates. And they're going to do the push themselves to get black and brown people vaccinated. They deserve to get this vaccine first. Okay. Whenever Bill Gates says you deserve something, don't believe it. This guy is ruthless. They deserve to get this vaccine first. And from there, you want to do tiering in various countries to make sure your most vulnerable populations get it.

51:07 In our country, that would be blacks and Native Americans, people with underlying health conditions, and the elderly. And so we need to look at as a globe, and we're involved with many European leaders and African leaders and others in Southeast Asia to make sure there's a purchasing fund that can pull that vaccine through when it's available and get it out in wide-scale distribution. You know, in fact, the testing could have been ramped up very quickly in a few countries that have almost avoided the epidemic entirely, like Taiwan, New Zealand, Australia. You know, they took their experience and actually prepared.

51:48 And so they moved a lot faster. So we'll have to prepare for the next one. That, you know, I'd say is will get attention this time. Do you think that they, because she didn't say elderly, because I think that would be clearly statistically the most vulnerable to coronavirus or the COVID-19 death, which she did not mention. It was blacks and I think she said blacks or black, black. Black and they deserve it first. Roger. They deserve it first. Yeah. Well, do you think that that's because they because they've discovered that it responds differently and they want to continue tweaking?

52:34 No, I think if a bunch of dead black people show up, it won't make that much news. I understand why you feel that way for sure. And what I don't understand, if I'm testing out, I mean, I'm just scientific, scientific method, you want at least the amount of variables as possible. Yeah. So I'm, if I'm sad, black people have the most. It's really sad what you just said because it's true. 60 black people shot dead in a weekend in Chicago. No one cares. I mean, of course we care, but it's not shown. So it's just poop, doesn't matter. It didn't happen. It's over. It never existed. You know, that's very cynical, but fuck, you're right.

53:15 And this is how we feel. I mean, like, I say it nonchalantly, but it's a real sentiment because if 60 black, like you said, black people or brown, black and brown people end up shot in Chicago, it's just Chicago. But one white young woman gets shot, then we have Susan's Law. I mean, they get a whole law. Hold on. Now, how does that work? But, you know, I mean, it is what it is. And I think that going back to my scientific method point is if you want to test something, give me your healthiest population, which will be rich, white,

53:58 liberal, vegan people. Not medical will. Yeah, that get on that gets on the, you know, the Pelotonic everyday. day, and rides in their loft apartment. Everyone should be getting the vaccine first. That's funny. Yeah, they're Peloton, looking at each other across from their Peloton penthouse apartments. That's my favorite ad. Exactly. They should be lined up around the block saying, you know what? Black Lives Matter. Give us the vaccine first. First. Yeah. Where are they at? Now that's a move. That's a move I like.

54:41 Where are they at? But no, it's if you ask me, yeah, we need a vaccine, we'd be the first taken. No, I would not. I'd like to see how it plays out. I'm still awestruck about the church and the school thing. It's so evil, but it's easy to think that way. And I totally, you know, well, you know me. I'm the guy that plays the theremin, but still, it's like, wow, that's kind of for real now. And to give a little background on Bill Gates, I went and found this Financial Times clip with Vanessa Corda Chaos.

55:17 I think that's how you pronounce it. And she talks about the population boom in Africa and its implications of it. The population of Africa is set to almost double by 2050, raising fears that progress in fighting poverty and disease will be reversed. So what can be done to ensure that poverty doesn't increase? And how can a disproportionately large youth population help drive progress? With me to discuss all of this and more is Bill Gates. Bill, are we at a turning point where regression is a real risk? Well, first, the progress over the last several decades has been pretty amazing, both reducing child to death, getting kids in school, getting agricultural productivity up, and reducing extreme poverty.

56:03 But it's really Africa that still has a doubling in population to 2050 and probably another doubling to 2100, where you really have to do a good job if you're trying to get these extreme poverty rates down. So if we don't do better in investing in human capital in Africa, yes, the number of people in extreme poverty is actually going to go up. Should the solution or should more solutions be focused on slowing that growth? So for example, increasing reproductive rights for women or spreading the access to contraceptives, because it seems that, is it correct, that no amount of investment can really keep pace with that population growth?

56:48 Oh my God, Bill Gates is all about killing people. I mean, the way he says it is so elegant. I heard it right there. He's like, well, you know, it's going to, you know, vaccines, vaccines, be really a way to help slow that population growth. I mean, anyone, it comes out so easily, but I can't hear it any differently than you're having too much sex, too many babies. Take this shot. One way or the other, it's going to slow down. Either you're going to be sterile or you're going to die. I mean, it's what other ways does this vaccine of his work if it's not saving. It's supposed to save you. You won't die from some horrible disease. So there'll be more people. And what they always say is, well, then women won't have six children because they know two or three are going to die.

57:34 That's their theory. And then the access to reproductive choices. Choices. No, reproductive rights. Reproductive rights. Yeah, excuse me. Rights. Yeah, right. Excuse me. I think every woman has that right built right in. But they want to make it readily available. And then when you start saying, hold on, wait. Well, let me dissect what you're saying, Bill, like you just, like you just so beautifully did. So what you're saying is we got to give women the right to choose, which they should have that. Yeah. But then we're. So we expect you to tell them. Let's slow down. Yeah. So, so what I hear, let me just tell you what I hear when I hear this.

58:19 We have to kill off the undesirables so the desirables can flourish. It's pretty much the way of the world, my friend. And this doesn't start with Africa. And this is where when we get to this point, this is where I took the hard ride. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Did you wind up at the Georgia Guidestones? No. I could easily ended up there. But like you said, the way he nonchalantly just says it, oh, yeah, we got to, you know, we got to kill some black people. Especially the Lower Khan. Yeah. So this is the same thing. By giving him some rights, we're going to give him some rights

59:00 so you can die and everyone's happy. Reproductive rights. and vaccination. Those are the two telltale signs of a eugenicist. It's what it is. What else is there? That is Margaret Sanger's M.O. and bring in some preachers. I mean, community, what they call them? Community outreach. Community outreach, outreach, yes. It is just a continuation, a continuation of the original eugenic society of America. Now finally recognize that Margaret Sanger, who was thus the founder of Planned Parenthood, wasn't eugenicist. The whole idea was eugenics. They weren't sure. We're going to get deeper into that and possibly humanize their thought process.

59:46 No, go ahead, change my mind, Mo. It's going to be tough. No, no, I'm not saying they're correct. I'm saying we're going to humanize how they actually get to that point and think they're doing good. Okay. That's that's because I mean, it's easy to say, oh, they're eugenicists, they're evil, and just write them off that way. I don't want to, I never want to do that to anybody because I don't want that to. That goes back to one of the tenets of this show: seek first to understand, then to be understood. So even eugenicists have the right to be understood. And I'd like to pause for a moment. And last night, I think it was Fox News or something. They played a bit from the DNC where the preacher was going off and it was reminiscent of Jeremiah Wright.

1:00:31 And it was all positioned as which I had fallen for this along. I just wanted to highlight it because of the show. When you played the Jeremiah Wright clip, the whole clip, and in context, you know, it's such a misstatement the way they're categorizing this throughout history. It's just irksome. And it adheres to exactly what you said, one of the tenets of the show. Yeah. So Bill Gates continues on with the Financial Times about reproducing population. What we do between now and 2050 with education, with economic growth, with health and nutrition, that'll really set the course

1:01:16 for moderating the population growth between 2050 and 2100. But it's really a virtuous cycle, letting women have reproductive health tools that they want, educating girls, raising agricultural productivity, getting these malnutrition interventions on a much greater scale than we have today. Those are the things you would want to do anyway. It turns out that by doing those well, you also set the population growth rate coming down quite a bit. And so

1:01:53 it just makes it that much more imperative that we invest in the human capital now. And so that the challenge of what under any scenario will be fairly high population growth, that you're able to benefit from all those young people making a big contribution to their country. Oh, did you hear that little laugh that he's got when he talks about killing people? Yeah. Yeah. So he says that they need reproductive tools. If you give them access to that, that they want. They want. That they want it. Yeah. Which they may. They may. I mean, sure, sure, sure. If your choices are, you know, and this is where we get into

1:02:39 the class difference, because you have people like Dr. Ted Dross. He's from Eritrea. There used to be Ethiopia. They used to be the face of famine in the 80s. Yeah. He's from there. So he looks at it and says, hey, I had a brother die from measles. I've seen hunger and famine up close and personal. Maybe it's better if those people that are starving were never born. I mean, that's how I think they start to rationalize it. That's how he would rationalize it. Sure, I can see that. Although he may have changed by now. He's kind of elite.

1:03:19 And then the young people they're talking about, they can leverage, they've been indoctrinating them with the Western schools for so long that this is second nature to them. So it's like, yeah, let's get the young kids in on it. You know, give them the tools and their vaccines and everything will be all right. Yeah. It's a crazy world. So I went and found Kevin Gates, a rapper and maybe a cousin of Bill Gates. This is from The Rolling Stones. And just to give you a sense of even in the hip-hop community, there have an anti-vaxxer tenant.

1:04:01 She's so special, she doesn't even care. To be honest with you, she just different. She's not like I've been around other three-year-old children. I know why she's so accelerated. She's never been vaccinated before. She's never had any vaccinations. So that's why she's so accelerated. She doesn't have mercury in her body and things of that nature. So my son, also, they just different. They sit down like little people and just talk. I don't believe in conspiracy theories and anything like that. I'm just a cold-blooded investigator. What made me not want to get my children vaccinated was because

1:04:41 I studied a lot about killing, you know, bad enzymes and stuff in the body. And that's not an opening through your skin. Your openings are your nose, your mouth. I ain't going to stand against the needle. Look at all these tattoos. Man, oh shit. I look like an essay when I take my shirt off. I love that needle. I was in Whole Foods one day, and they had like after you get vaccinated, they had something else you're supposed to take. And I'm like, why would you need to take something after you've been helped already?

1:05:22 You know, this episode is this to me. Yeah, this episode, I'm sure, may be triggering to a lot of people. So I just want to recognize that. And because, you know, I think Mo and I, you know, we've got, well, we have, we kind of know where we stand on this. And again, this is not an anti-vaxxer show, but it's important that we look at all of these angles. And I think these, particularly these angles, are very, very, in this case, you can really benefit because, you know, black people go first, but it's the Africans first. So what they're doing there, they're going to do here to everybody eventually.

1:06:05 I told you, we always go first. Yes. This is the tenant of the show. This is a tenant of showing. And maybe they use Africa because you have a waterwall to stop just in case it goes crazy. You don't want to do it in the black community because it's like, hey, they got to come clean my house. And, you know, I got to get in and fix my coffee at Starbucks. I don't want them coughing all over my cup. You know, but if you're going to do it. No, I know I say these things in jest, but you have to, or you will go insane if you don't laugh at it in a way because it's that AIDS came around. Yeah, when AIDS came around, we were like, where'd that come from?

1:06:48 It just came out the blue. No, I don't not buy that. I mean, it was one of Jeremiah Wright's points about AIDS, where it came from. And now you have rappers even saying, bro, I'm not taking no vaccine. And he makes a great point. If your product's that great, why do I need to have a chaser to go with it? I'm not understanding that. And anybody that gets upset with us questioning vaccines, this is how capitalism works. If your product is that great, then it should be mandated I have to take it. I'm seeking out. Right. Hey, if I see my neighbor took a vaccine and I didn't, I caught the flu and they didn't.

1:07:29 I'm like, hey, hey, hey, Bob, what'd you do? And he's like, hey, I took the flu shot. And I was like, really? And they're like, I haven't had the flu in four years. I might consider it. But every time everybody I talk to, they had the flu really bad that year. My arm went numb. You know, I couldn't feel my fingers. Still hurts. Still hurts. Still hurts. You took what? So that's the issue that we have: if we're saying that your product is that great, which they even say theirself, they don't understand their product. And then they're even rolling out new products even before we're understanding their original products. That's scary. That is a very scary place to be put in.

1:08:10 And then top it off with all that to be targeted because of your skin color. Yeah. That's a whole nother, you know what I'm saying? That's a whole nother thing in itself. But it doesn't stop there with the rappers. DJ Vlad, popular DJ and show host. He has Willie D from the Ghetto Boys in the show. Now, the first 40, one minute and 40 seconds is a question, or is it? Well, one of the things that seems to be a very polarizing issue on Vlad TV, whenever I mentioned it, is Bill Gates and vaccinations. Now, I read an article.

1:08:54 believe it was in the Atlantic, where Bill Gates said that he's working on seven different vaccines right now for coronavirus. And he's actually building the factories of all seven, knowing that only probably two of them will actually work. So he's going to throw away billions of dollars of his own money because it's so important to speed up the production. If you wait until, okay, this is the one that's going to work. Now we're going to run and build the factory, you're going to waste months and a lot of people are going to die in the process.

1:09:32 So he's actually throwing away billions of dollars to make sure that more people survive. Bill Gates is giving away more money than anybody, I think, in human history. But you always see this. I'm not going to take the Bill Gates vaccine. You always just, you know, the theories, the conspiracy theories that Bill Gates went down to Africa and vaccinated a bunch of African kids and all of them got paralyzed and there's some sort of evil underlying mission of Bill and Melinda Gates. Me personally, I'm vaccinated right now for the flu. When all this started, I talked to my doctor. I said, should I get the flu shot?

1:10:11 He said, absolutely. I went down to the local CBS. I got a flu shot. When this vaccine comes out, I'm going to go ahead and get the vaccine. What's your take on vaccines? Did you hear that question? I mean, like, he was basically bootlicking Bill Gates. Couldn't get it. And I mean, are you kidding me? This is confirmed, documented. I think even the WHO has information on what happened with these kids with bad vaccines. And it was Clinton Global Health Initiative. That was their, they did some crappy deal. It's all lame. It's horrible. And he said, he said two things in that clip. He said, one, every time I bring this topic up, it's polarizing.

1:10:56 Well, and then he turned around and says, I always hear, no, I'm not taking it. To be polarizing, I mean, just from my definition of it, if I ask a group of people, roughly half would be on one end of the spectrum and then the other half would be on the other end of the spectrum, which, you know, speaks to the word polarizing. You got two polls. But then you turn around and say, everybody is not taking it. Come, I mean, is it clear? We don't want the vaccine. But he has this finger on the vein of hip-hop. He has one of the most popular shows in hip-hop. And he's going to use his platform to push being vaccinated.

1:11:37 I'm not doing it. I do believe that the vaccines are responsible for this influx of autism in the black community and this disproportionate influx of autism. We didn't have these type of issues in our community 20 years ago. All of a sudden, they're doing all these vaccines. And look, and this is not just, in my opinion, it's not just a theory. There was a worker at the CDC, a doctor from the CDC, who actually blew the whistle on this and said that they knew 10 years before they admitted that

1:12:16 those vaccines were causing autism disproportionately in black kids, black boys specifically. So I don't trust the vaccines. I never did. Well, I'll take that back. I did at one point. I used to, I tried getting vaccinated for, you know, I tried to get the flu shot a couple of years in a row. And each time I got it, I actually got sick and I had these horrible symptoms. And it wasn't like one or two days. It was like a couple of weeks. And I was like, shit, I'll take my chances. Rather than just injecting me and making me sick, I'd rather just take my chances.

1:12:56 Yeah. Me too. Me too. I'd rather just take my chances because you hear people getting sicker from the flu shot. And or you hear on the news, if you took a flu shot here at Whole's Food, come back. Even though you got a bad batch, we need to give you another one. One of my problems with the flu shot is who administers it. They give flu shots everywhere. It's like you stop the G-Value, getting your oil change. Why don't you get your flu shot? While you're waiting. Companies have them come into the company and get your flu shots. It's very troubling. So before we play this next clip, just one of the things I see. Yeah, one of the things about the autism.

1:13:42 Many vaccines, if you read the little insert that comes with every. every medication, every vaccine, it actually says that can be one of the side effects. There you go with your misinformation, Adam. Okay, all righty, you're peddling misinformation. I know that's that's how they just that's how they box you in, right? They just throw you. Uh, and I think that's why that's why I think that Rolling Stones interviewed uh Kevin Gates because he's seen as somewhat of a you know a troll.

1:14:23 So they were like, if you if you think like this, you think like Kevin Gates kind of thing. Of course, they always think about it. So that was like you're guilty, you're guilty by association. Yep. Before we play this next clip, we had to get a trigger warning because the next gentleman is a M5M untouchable. So we have to do this. Take a warning. Take a warning. Trigger warning. Now we're over an hour into the show. Now we have the trigger warning. Okay, I can't wait. Well, it's because whenever we play an M5M Untouchable, we have to do that because, like, it's some new listeners and they just might totally write off what they hear next.

1:15:08 That's true. All right. So don't take their vaccines. There are 14 therapies that are in the world today that we can use to fight against the COVID virus. America, you won't solve it. The scientists of the world, you won't solve it. Guess what? I want to tell you what will solve it. This virus is a pestilence from heaven.

1:15:50 So scholarship from hell can't deal with a pestilence that came from heaven. Wow, that's an interesting take. So that's Minister Louis Farrakhan. So now we have a southern soon-to-be Christian preacher and Minister Louis Farrakhan on the same path of don't take the vaccine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which I would love to see them, those two sit down and have a conversation and do the work. Now, why? Now, well, here's a question. So, looking at the eugenicist movement in America historically, and this has come up in the beginning on the show,

1:16:36 the community outreach would be the ministers. Just put a reverend in front of someone's name, and they're to be trusted, and they're going to tell you what's going on and what we're going to do. And if I'm not mistaken, there were documents, I think it was actually Planned Parenthood Documents, wasn't it? Was it Eugenic America? Yeah, make sure you get the reverence, get the preachers in there. Yes. So now we have the opposite. Is this because many preachers know how that went down and recognize what's happening and saying, aha, I'm not going to fall for that one? Well, a lot of preachers, and I don't want to

1:17:15 cast a too wide of a net, but a large sum of churches receive what they have, the 501c3, which is the government tax break. Yeah. Which if you start saying the wrong things, legally, they can come in and put the pressure on you. Unless you're a lot of preachers. Unless you're Scientology, then it's okay. Right. So a lot of preachers don't want to even run that risk of being put on that radar because once, like I said, like I've said before, once you're on the RRS's radar, you never get off.

1:17:51 So I think that's part of the reason why you don't hear too many speaking out and it's only the people on the fringes, in which the fringes really represent the people that they're trying to get rid of in the first place. Let's just be honest. Now we're getting to the eugenics conversation because we clearly can see they're trying to eliminate certain classes of people, whether it be racially or economically or intelligence-wise or whatever, whatever they're. Whoever they have a better way to trick. Correct. So this is where the rabbit hole took the hard right or hard left, how you want to say it. All right. This next set of clips is from David Hoffman, which he is an archivist and filmmaker.

1:18:35 And he had this video on the book called Safe Counsel, which was printed in 1923. And it supported the idea of eugenics and believed. believed in phrenology, which is that's the study or pseudoscience studying of the skull and the inferior races. And this is kind of leads to what Nick Cannon was talking about from one angle of it. Yes. Certain groups of people who think other groups of people are inferior on whatever the criteria is. But let's just hear David Hoffman talk about the Safe Council. Hello, subscribers. Hello, others. It's David Hoffman, filmmaker. About to talk about a book.

1:19:15 Safe Counsel. What would you think Safe Counsel is about? This version is from 1923, but there were hundreds of printings of this starting in about 1893. Safe Counsel. It's about eugenics. It's about marrying a person who will produce children that are of the highest quality. What a story. Let me just give you some of the things you need to know before you hear what the book advises you to do. Pardon me for using notes because I'm not really a teacher, but I can't remember all these hilarious things. What is eugenics? Eugenics is a term designed to repair the racial qualities for future generations physically and mentally and to sterilize those who don't meet those qualities.

1:20:04 Sterilized. Hello, Moderna. Wow. Hello, reparations. Hey, at least it's tangible. What are you complaining about? He just said repair. Eugenics is, I mean, in their mind, they're saying, we're helping their, we're strengthening their race. We're removing all the undesirables. Ooh, ooh, that is good. Reparations. Yes. Oh, that's one way of interpreting. That's the root cause. I mean, that's the root of the word reparation is to repair, right? So it's, hey, we're fixing their race. We're getting rid of all the, you know, all the impurities, all the things that's wrong. Oh, and just

1:20:46 for people to humanize eugenics for a moment, we've seen it in play in the movie Forrest Gump, but we didn't really realize it because Forrest Gump's IQ fell right under that threshold. And he would have been a clear candidate for being sterilized in that time, period. Right. Or maybe earlier. And he's like, well, your mama should learn your education. His mama had to step in and make sure he went to a proper public school. Right. I mean, we see these things right in front of our face, but we don't know how to interpret it. Speaking of movies, David Hoffman, he plays a clip from a movie, but he didn't say where it was from.

1:21:26 But the time period is like early 20s, I believe, that shows how eugenics was right out in the open, even in mainstream media. You better tell her so she'll understand. Well, we thought it necessary to present our family's case to the State Medical Commission. Not in an examination, they decided there was one important action to take. We're having our entire family germinized. Why, what's that? I don't know what you're talking about. Well, we investigated your family's history, Alex. And most of the past three generations have enfeeble-minded. Congenital cripples or habitual drunkards. Instead of improving, each generation is more of a problem.

1:22:09 Now, in this state, we have a law which provides for such people to have an operation so there won't be any more children. I see. Now, you place your brothers in institutions where they'll be properly cared for. You can go back to your job, Dude. I'll arrange to have it held open for you. But I'm keeping my job. I'm not going anywhere. Are you going to the hospital, too, Alex? But there's nothing wrong with me. Perhaps not. You wouldn't want to marry some fine young man and be insane with the children you had. And you mean they're going to stop me from having children ever? Exactly. It made me think of something.

1:22:52 I remember my mom, she had three kids, and it wasn't so much that there was a decision, I don't want to have kids anymore, because I was old enough to understand why she was going to the hospital and what was happening. I don't remember exactly how old I was, but I was young. But I remember it was more like the patriotic thing to do. 2.3 children was, that's what I remember. These are the things you remember from your childhood. So somehow she had received the messaging that 2.3 children is really

1:23:32 what you should be doing. And to her, it was like, okay, I want to do my duty. I've done my duty. I've done what I had to do. Procreate. And I got to stop so that we don't. And this is in the days of the population bomb. This is another book that was, and some of the people who are touting climate change today are still from the population bomb group. So none of this is really old and ancient. It's still fresh. And obviously, it's still with us. It's very fresh. And as you heard in that clip, their brothers are feeble-minded.

1:24:12 They don't deserve to have babies. And you, she said, you're perfectly fine, but think about would you want to have your husband have children, you and your husband have children, and they end up like your lineage. Right. Which is a clear attack on lineage, which you know I'm a big proponent of. Oh, my God. So it really goes. Wait, I just give one more example, and then I'll shut up. This has also been slipped into, and I'm not saying, I'm not making any medical qualifications here. The BRCA breast cancer gene, the BRCA B-R-A-C-A. Okay. There were women who, and today are like, I've tested for the gene.

1:24:55 I'm having a full mastectomy just in case because, you know, it's in my lineage. It's in my heritage. My mom had it. And they got the community outreach from Angelina Jolie, who did not have breast cancer, but she tested positive for the BRCA genus. That by itself, that whole testing for the gene was a whole nother story. And believe it or not, it got so good that to this day, I believe if you're tested for the BRCA gene, Medicare will pay for your reconstructive surgery. So if you're looking, and I know I have no business talking about this necessarily because I don't, I'm not an owner of this type of equipment, but there are a lot of stories of women who's like, okay, this is a great way to get a boob job.

1:25:45 Makes sense. Yeah. I mean, we have our own equipment. If you can get a lift there, here there as you get older, you know. Okay. So it's kind of low. You know what I'm saying? I got 10 years on you, Mo. What are you talking about? No, I'm just saying. I mean, if men could take advantage of that, we would for cosmetic purposes in any way. So probably. I don't think it's any different. But what strikes me is their pitch to her was: you don't want to pass on your bad genes with your husband to the next generation. And now the solution they have is we can go into your DNA and cop that bad boy out and it'll pass it on to your kids, which will never be an issue again.

1:26:31 I find these very striking in a way that it leaves me speechless. It's like, what are we doing here? Is like COVID like the opening of the door of designer baby designer children? Yeah, it's a COVID is a cover-up. It's a cover-up. It's a cover-up for DNA splicing, gene manipulation, or DNA manipulation, gene splicing. Right. And because it's perfect. I mean, it's perfect. It kills off all the old people with all their old, old ideas and traditions. Got rid of them. It gets rid of all the weak. I mean, if you have comorbidities or any birth defects, it kind of eliminates those people.

1:27:14 And then we can, you know, get everybody else to get their jacked up DNA. You know, and it is what it is. That is, it's crazy. Wow, the people. It makes my head hurt to think like them. The possibilities are endless. So this is where I got to the killer wasp. So that meant doing something so that you could no longer have children because your children would be inferior as you were. You were inferior. The children were inferior. We wanted to make America the kind of highest quality children that you could produce, which these folks and many folks, including Rockefeller, Ford, Teddy Roosevelt, the first Roosevelt president and others, believed were white people who didn't have mental

1:28:03 deficiencies, depression, or were of the ethnicities that many felt were not equal to white people. The purpose was to create a strong America to improve the stock of America. But this won't be a surprise to you. There were people who used this sterilization thing to punish others. Oh, okay. Sure. Gee, there's gambling going on there. So this is the why. WASP. So what I mean by WASP is I'm not talking about the bug here. I know what you're talking about. I'm talking about the white Anglo-Saxon Protestant, male, I mean, Protestant, but then male is a part of that as well.

1:28:47 So that was the standard. Then all the ethnic groups fell under that. The same groups that he highlighted there, the Rockefellers, the Carnegies, the Ford Foundation, blah, blah, blah, fill in the blank were the same ones funding HBCUs at the same time because they said, oh, there's some, you know, there's some redeemable black folks, you know, about 10%. Oh, that's where the talented Tim came from. So they put up the money to build these institutions of higher education to be basically magnets to draw out the smarties, you know, to these magnets. And then they indoctrinated them with their way of thinking.

1:29:32 And then they went back and pushed it back. To be a minister or a doctor, you have to go to school. And throwback, throwback, brown paper bag test. You had to be smart, but you also couldn't be too dark. Too dark. Yeah, up to 1970s, according to Beyonce Daddy, Matthew Knowles. I mean, he said it himself. So these practices went on. And this is how, I mean, I know it's like kind of not a stretch, but how did he get there from here? We have to understand the thought process of people like Bill Gates. Now, he's not necessarily a WASP, but WASP represents a certain

1:30:18 culture in America. And that's like what when you say white, that's what a lot of the people mean by when they say, when they say white. And Protestant is important because even the Catholics was the number one target of the KKK back in the day, even more than Jewish people. I mean, you wouldn't know that now, but I mean, it is what it is. It's the truth. Well, I found this nameless clip. It's unknown. I don't know who the guy was. It's a 30-second clip when I was searching WASP. And this came up, white, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant one. Eugenicists, like most social theorists, embraced the concept of the ideal man as being white of Anglo-Saxon and Protestant background.

1:31:05 Someone who is physically, socially, and morally fit to their way of thinking. Anyone who did not fit into that formula became somewhat suspect. On the WASP bit, just to give you a little more, the CIA pretty much exists of, well, it's changed over the years, not the same CI as it used to be, but it's all WASP. That's like, well, they would say we're Catholics in action, CIA, but WASP, that was it. WASP-y guys, you're in the CIA. And like I said, WASP, the Protestant part is kind of flexible.

1:31:47 Even the white part is kind of flexible. It's the thought process. The culture is, that's why you can see a Barack Obama be a WASP. Sure. He was a WASP. I mean, it is what it is, even though he didn't look the part. And that's even better. It's like, yeah, you have the mind of a WASP, but we can use you to get in certain spaces to be a, what was the term they used? We just heard it a while ago. Community outreach. Right. Community outreach, community organizers. It's all there. I mean, that's it right there. Boom. In one package. So now we have to go back.

1:32:26 This is where we have to go back and use a couple of throwback clips because we have to see what America was originally set up to be. And this is according to one Abraham Lincoln himself. Title on the book is Abraham Lincoln's White Dream. What's that mean? It means that contrary to what most people think, Abraham Lincoln's deepest desire was to deport all black people and create an all-white nation.

1:33:03 It sounds like a wild idea now, and it is a wild idea. But from about 1852 until his death, he worked feverishly to try to create deportation plans, colonization plans to send black people either to Africa or to South Africa, South America, or to the islands of the sea. On December the 1st, 1862, 1862. in which he asked Congress to pass three constitutional amendments. One, to buy the slaves, second, to declare free all people who had actually escaped.

1:33:42 But the third one, his proposed 15th Amendment, asked Congress to allocate money to deport black people to another place. You know, they didn't teach me that in school. This is a hoax. That can't be right, Moe. That's according to Mr. LaRon Bennett Jr. It always cracks me up when Trump talks about Lincoln. I'm the best thing that happened to African Americans since Lincoln. That's kind of questionable. He knows. He knows. I mean, he dabbles in conspiracies. So he had to come across this information. So if we're looking at it through the lens of America was set up to be this white nation and to really,

1:34:28 you have to understand how America was created. America was looked at as not the place to be for a long time, but the people that came here made it into what it was. And it's like, we'll show the rest of the world. We'll create a white beacon for the rest of the world to see what we've done. I'm just kind of paraphrasing the American history there, but that's how I see it. And so whiteness was really synonymous with American. It's like, if you really want to be American or white, you have to show these certain traits. And then they started to graft people in. And it's like, okay, well, we'll take this group in.

1:35:11 You know, they show good moral underpinnings. Let's let them into the white group. You know, and it's continuously group after group after group that they're indoctrinated. And then if you're not let in, say for instance, I'm just going to use Italians, for instance. The upstanding, and I remember watching Sopranos. I know that's a bad, but just follow me. Follow me. I'm from Jersey. I'm good. Yeah, that's the point I'm going there. The upstanding Italians like scoffed at like the traditional Italians. How do you eat meatballs and spaghetti? That's so

1:35:50 stereotypical. I mean, I'm just throwing stuff out there, but that's how they look at it. So, I mean, you had this even in the black community because when blacks came from the south north, the black people that were northerners would say, you can't do that. You can't sit on your front porch eating watermelons. That makes us look terrible. I mean, who doesn't like watermelon on a hot day? But it's the you're you're blocking us from getting our whiteness, right? And what do they do with people that don't conform to quote-unquote American whiteness? They make them a subgroup like Jersey Shores. It's like, forget about it. That kind of thing. Or every group is this subgroup, the Italians, the Irish.

1:36:35 You have upstanding Irish people, and then you have the stereotypical Irish people that go down to the pub. And how about Texas is a great example? You know, you've got some real, you know, down-home redneck boys who, you know, who are just as bad as you think they are, but it's probably not the majority. And that has a very telltale, it comes from their roots. You got to see who made up Texas. I mean, when you go way back, I mean, I'm not talking about 19, I'm talking about like 1800s. Who first went to Texas? What kind of group of people were they? You know, that's where, and that's why it's different Texas to California.

1:37:17 People like, they're both out west. Nah, they're totally different because of the people that made them up. So we, so when we're talking about whiteness, now we have to get into the one-drop rule to understand even more why whiteness is important to America. In the years following the abolition of slavery, some Americans feared a rise in interracial relationships. So states began passing laws to make sure that any child with a Negro and a white parent could be considered black and denied the rights of white people. In other words, a child with even one drop of Negro blood would be classified as Negro. This became known as the one-drop rule, a standard ruled unconstitutional by the U.S.

1:37:56 Supreme Court in 1967. This and the hardships of racism also caused African Americans to pass, pretend they were white without ever telling their families, leaving a lot of whites not knowing they had black blood. But some experts on race relations say the legacy of the one-drop rule still exists in today's culture. I love that. That's so funny. So that explains the one-drop rule. If you're born with this birth defect of blackness, it's like, oh, no, you can't be in that. the club. I mean, that's how that's how these people looked at. And it's very, these people are very cut and dry when we get into the, and like I said, I'm not casting Spurgeon on any, I'm talking about the group WASP, like I talk about Black Inc.

1:38:41 or any other. I'm just letting people know that if you're white, happen to be white, Anglo-Saxon, and a Protestant. We're not talking about you. No. We're talking about the product that was created because we always talk about products, right? MLK, the product, you know, all these different products, even Jesus Christ, the product. I mean, we separate them from the people. And WASP is a product of that's where we want to aspire. What they say, we wanted, you know, the best genetics possible. So I found this interesting clip was actually a short movie from 1957, and it talks about social class in America, are social classes

1:39:26 predetermined. Newborn American babies. Newborn citizens of these United States. Free and with rights guaranteed by the Constitution. But let's take a closer look. These new arrivals in a typical American town have equal legal rights. In class, they are not equal at all. Each has a social status handed on to him by his family, ascribed to him at birth. Meet Gilford Ames III, the latest addition to one of the town's upper-class families.

1:40:06 Gilbert Ames II is the wealthiest man in town. He owns a large factory. The AIMD is one of the oldest families in the community. And so it represents as well as wealth. I love those old clips. So the Ames family is the WASP. And we're talking solely white people. This is 1957. And they said, just because they were born with the same rights, their class is totally different. And they lay out the other two classes, the middle class and then the lower class. And they go on to talk about how the Ames family remained to be the ruling class.

1:40:52 And with that said, I have a clip on the ideology of the ruling elite from Noam Chomsky. It's a very important book that came out about it that you ought to take a look at. It's called The Crisis of Democracy. It's published by the Trilateral Commission, Trilaterals, Europe, United States, Japan, the three industrial democracies. The concern of the book is that there's too much democracy. They're concerned about the fact that in the 60s, in all the industrial world, there were popular uprisings of one sort or another. But the participants said we have to have more moderation in democracy.

1:41:33 These people have to go back to where they belong. Just being observers, passive, let the serious people run things and so on. And in particular, they were concerned about students, of course, because there were student activism all over. And what they argued was that I'm now using their words, not mine, that the institutions responsible for the indoctrination of the young failed. The schools, the universities, the churches, they were not carrying out appropriate indoctrination of the young. And something has to be done to reverse this. Oh, my. They're not doing it right.

1:42:15 Oh, my goodness. So that's when you had the counterculture come in and what he's talking about in the 1960s and 70s. The counterculture came in, but then the Alphabet boys or the federal agents hijacked the counterculture movie with Laurel Cavern and what is it called? Where all the birds and all the rock stars came from the same place in California. Oh, yeah, it was Laurel Canyon. Well, Laurel Canyon. That's it. Thank you. And that mysteriously all had military, industrial, complex parents.

1:42:57 Then you get into the MK Ultra kind of thing. Then you get into Manson. There's all kinds of stuff connected to that. So the point I'm getting to here is, as I made this statement in the last show, that we cover the wars that are raging right now. The race war, the real generational war. and the gender war. And somebody on YouTube, I forget your name, made a good point. And they said they all won wars. It's a cultural war, but they're not, and it expanded my thought. That's why I like interacting with people. And I was like, oh, it's the same war, but we're fighting on different fronts.

1:43:37 Kind of like battle 2. We had, you know, we had the East Asian front and I had the European front. So you have all these different things. So what I'm pointing out here is there's a race war, but it's actually a white civil war. Follow me. Okay. It's always been a white civil war because white people of the WASP status look at, and this is not my word, and it's going to be a letter explained why I use it. They look at white trash as undesirable and need to be gotten rid of.

1:44:15 Deplorables. Deplorables, man. Deplorables. Now, if you take a segment of Negroes with them, that's fine. If you take a segment of Hispanics with them, that's fine. But what we have to do, you always wonder, like, why did they, don't they know they're going to affect their own people? Then it dawned on me one day. It's not that they're not. No, they're calling. Yes. They're calling their own race. And if it takes down others with it, so be it. I mean, that's why I always say it starts with us first, not realizing that if we just fall in that demographic, they'll run the test on us to affect the demographic they're really trying to get rid of.

1:44:55 And the demographic they're really trying to get rid of is the deplorable, the Trump voter, which in the 1920s, 1910s, early late 1800s was the white trash. And you really had to read the book by Nancy Eisenberg by the same name, White Trash. Author Nancy Eisenberg is a professor of history at Louisiana State University. And welcome to you. Well, thanks for having me. I think what hit me most is the idea that the poor have not only been accepted, but expected. That it's a part of our national DNA. That's the argument you're making. Well, I think one of the things we forget is that for half of our history, we were an agrarian nation.

1:45:39 So white trash really comes out of notions of rural poverty. And it goes all the way back to British ideas because in the colonial period and well into throughout the 19th century, the mark of being a successful America was being a property owner. And what we've forgotten is that large numbers of Americans did not own property. For example, in Thomas Jefferson's Virginia, at the time of the Revolution, 40% of white men were landless. So when you refer to white trash, I just want to be clear, and the idea of white trash, literally, the term was used, the terms like waste.

1:46:16 Who do you mean? Yes, the word white trash, at least as far as we've been able to discover, was first appeared in newspaper print in the 1820s. But it has a much older meaning because if we go back to some of the leading promoters of British colonization, when they imagined what were they going to do with the new world, the new world, first of all, was imagined as a wilderness, what they called a wasteland. And it was the perfect place for literally dumping the idle poor. And these were referred to as waste people. They have waste people. Man, waste people. That is nasty. So we have to look at America, how it was created.

1:46:58 It's not that long ago. It's not that long ago. And these are the strongholds of WASP, right? Australia, America. What were they? Australia was a penal colony, a penal colony that they got all their trash, not my words, all their waste, and pumped it out, pumped it out to Australia. Same thing in America. A lot of white people came to America not on the Mayflower, but on transportation ships sent here as their sent here as their punishment for being criminals back in Europe. So when they came here, this is where

1:47:41 when you're doing the work, and this is why I did this episode the way I did it. When white people say to other white people, you're privileged. And a white person's like, bro, I'm from rural Kentucky. You know, I had one pair of shoes for three years. I mean, they give you that story, right? Yeah. And then you compare them to a Barack Obama that went to a $90,000 a year school or $40,000, whatever the number was. And you're like, hold on, I have more privilege than him. What are you saying? Because it's a very nuanced. nuanced conversation. This is why reparation is a non-starter for a lot of people.

1:48:20 It's like, why do I have to pay those people? You know, when my ancestors had it harder than their ancestors, you know, or I was poorer than them. The problem with that is, is this. And I'll let me retort that argument. If I go to Germany right now and become a German citizen, they're going to say, well, you have to pay Holocaust victims reparations, right? That's what all German citizens do. I can't say, hey, I wasn't here during Hitler's reign. Why do I have to pay? I'm a citizen of a country that owes a debt.

1:48:59 That's why you have to pay. It's not personal. And I understand that you have people of different colors that are higher or lower on that spectrum. It's not about the conversation of reparation is not about that. It's about a certain group of people was systemically oppressed through laws from that nation and they're owed something. So that's all it is to it. So I hope we aren't, because what I'm trying to do is remove these layers off so people can understand, like, yeah, there was white people that lived in the South that were actually poor.

1:49:41 They were work. To be honest with you, a poor white person was at one time in this country seen as less than a free black man. Now, it don't work for the narrative. It doesn't work for the narrative. But even that's the reality. You can probably Google this. I'll see if I can put it in the show notes. A lot of show notes for this episode, by the way. We also include the clips. If you look at who is connected to who, mainly by marriage in politics, mainstream media, really, you know, yeah, the media apparatus, which includes Hollywood, you'll go nuts.

1:50:18 I mean, it's literally people are married to press agents inside the White House, top of ABC News, and these networks, those are the people, by the way, who are telling you that we're all racist, telling me that I'm racist. I'm no good. They're calling people deplorable. These are the white privileged and go to Harvard, Yale, the other Ivy League schools. They're the ones. They are the ones. You know who's worse than them? You know who are worse than the actually ones that were born into privilege? The ones seeking privilege. Yeah, who claims that? Because they're from these lower class families. I mean, we really, America has a caste system. Let's just be honest here.

1:51:02 Sure. America has a caste system. And these people are from the lower caste, but they have upper mobility. So they take advantage of their upper mobility. And what do they do? They pass. We've talked about passing before, but we talked about it in a racial sense. Now we're talking about in a class sense because a lot of those people you see on MSNBC, if you follow them home, I mean, like, I'm not talking about to their apartment in Manhattan. I'm talking about home, home. Like Bill Clinton, for instance. Look at Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton would be seen as a wasp, right? But if you follow him home and look at the other Clintons, his mom and dad and those kind of people, they will be considered white trash.

1:51:43 So I'm telling you, what we're in the middle of right now has nothing to do with black people. Nothing to do with it. This is a white civil war. And what brought me to this realization, I'm just going to give you a little bit of a little. That's pretty deep. I'm going to give you a little example of it. Now, I live on a not dead. I'm probably a dead end. I've never been all the way to the other end of the road, but I don't think it has outlets. So there's no through traffic. But one guy has a Trump sign up. And then the other guy, first he has, I mean, they're neighbors too, right? Oh, yeah. I've seen it. And, you know, this is Austin. Austin. I'm seeing it play. I'm seeing it play out.

1:52:25 So one guy has out, wrote out the turd on November 3rd, right? Sign. And then the other guy go gets more Trump signs. And then this, the other guy, and it's called Neighbor One, Neighbor Two. So Neighbor One is the Liberal. Neighbor Two is the flag waving Trump. Conservative. Yeah, is the conservative. So they're having sign wars. So one guy, when we first pulled up, I'm like, first side I see is truth matters. I'm like, okay, I see what he's about. And then like down the road, I see Trump signs. So I'm like, okay. And I'm just watching this sign war. And they're not doing it for anybody because no, you know, I think there's one

1:53:07 in the street. Yeah. Shouldn't they start pretty soon? We'll be fighting over who's your friend. You know what? I've stayed out of it. I'm just, I'm just sitting here. You can wait for it. You can wait for it. Let me get that black. I'm watching how to play. Let me get him on my side. Yeah. So I'm watching how it plays out. So the truth matter sign shows up first, then a Trump sign, and then the vote out the turret on November 3rd sign shows up, then more Trump and pit signs. And then the liberal neighbor one trumps them all with the Black Lives Matter official sign. I mean, official. Like he has the black and yellow, and he had put spotlights on it. I mean, this is right across the street. And I'm like, I'm sitting here like, this is a frigging civil war.

1:53:52 This is how it started last time. I mean, we say it jokingly, but this is how it started last time. Because two groups of people, neither one of them owns slaves, use a topic of slavery as, you know, as the gospel. It was thrown down, like, you know, and what they really want to do is call their own within their within their group. But it's like, I have to use the pity of black people to do it. You know, I have to use racism to shame you to change your mind. And what really is the problem here is the more liberal people aren't having kids.

1:54:32 Oh, no kidding. They're having dogs. While the conservatives are having the children. So now it's like, how do we indoctrinate the children? RNA. How do you indoctrinate? You're so bad that I love it. Go ahead. No, I'm just saying, but this is what's playing out. And I'm just sitting back like, I'm being, I'm going to pull it, not me personally, but I assume they didn't expect to have black neighbors. I didn't say they wouldn't assume, but this is just the way it played out. I'm like, wow, I'm just witnessing this racial civil war happening. It's very fascinating. And to add to that,

1:55:16 what is one side of the white equation doing? They are smashing and breaking the other side, the rich side. Yes. We're going out and we're going to smash some high-end windows, Gucci, and Tesla, which is also that part is new when it comes to street riots because that's not really what's going on. This is very astute. So that's what I too have thought about the privilege just because clearly we know now that this white privilege, white fragility is bull crap.

1:55:53 It really is a class war. But that still leaves a couple things. Well, I just want to say that it leaves a couple things open when you're accused of when people accuse me of privilege. I have a new answer. What's that? I do. I have parent privilege. I grew up with two parents. Oh, okay. Yeah, I mean, I mean, and I suffer from the same privilege. Exactly. Exactly. So maybe that's why we can identify all of that. I think so. I think so. That's what it is. I will say privilege does exist. And in this way, with passing, whether it's you're passing from

1:56:35 not my turn. I want to make sure when I use this term, it's not my words. This is Nancy Eisenberg's term, white trash. You can easily pass into waspism or white, a white, being white. The real aspect of being white. Or if you have light skin, we've seen that. We talk about that. You can pass into privilege. Or the woman that grew up all life and not realized that she was Rachel Dolezal. So there is a privilege, but it's a very nuanced conversation. The way people throw it around,

1:57:16 that helps nobody. What we have to do is sit down because there's people that I've encountered in life and they tell me their story and they are so-called white people. And that's like, I would not trade with you in a million years. And just being black itself, I would not want to be changed, even if it allowed me to be privileged. Because when I wear this skin, this is the same skin that my forefathers wore. It makes me part of that. I mean, like, it's, it is what it is. It's home. It's me. It's me. All I am is just a continuation of that same. That's why I call it lineage. I'm just a continuation of it. Yes, but we can make you better with the RNA vaccine.

1:57:58 Your children will be much better and your children's children will be fantastic. We can make you say ass. all right, Dr. Moe. Uh, we have a very important modification to the gene pool here. So, finally, we'll get these people to say ask instead of ask. This is all we've needed. It'll fix the world. Oh, my God. Dr. Bill, help us. So, we've been right on top of this thing for the longest, and it just solidified when I re-listened to the trick baby because it's one of my faves. It's you, liberals who have lifted them up, Howard. Oh, you conservatives make a mistake.

1:58:40 You can't afford to strangle hope in people. Without hope, people become dangerous. No, Howard, you liberals have let them invade our society. You give them jobs, political jobs. Oh, you missed the point. It's only the smart ones we move up. That makes it even worse. No, no, we have to move them up. If we leave a smart one in the ghetto, he might develop into a leader against us. But if we raise him up into white society, we neutralize him. He feels compelled to try to act like us. He loses his identity and his racial anger, if he has any. He becomes alien to his brothers. They realize he sold him out and they grow to hate him.

1:59:23 He becomes worthless to them and safe for us. No, thank you. In fact, in his love for the creature comforts, except for his color, he's become one of us. And that was, what, 1975, 76? 1974, 1977? Not even that long ago. So let's take the racial aspect out of it and think about them talking about Abill Clinton. Yeah. Send him to make him a Rhodes scholar. That'll lift him out. Which Rhodes in its Caesar Rose in itself is, you know, white supremacy, you know,

2:00:04 Rhodesia. Yes, exactly. So it's like, let's send him over to the white supremacy school. Yeah. Get him trained up. And when he comes back, he won't identify with his archists on an arcane. Yeah, he won't make trouble. He won't make trouble. Right. So, I mean, it's just not, this thing goes way deeper than race. It's just much more visible when we talk about race. Yes. And then, of course, you have the ultimate white trash who has all the markers, has all the checks. He's got the receipts, but he'll never be one of us. And that's Donald Trump. Which he was born into the wasp.

2:00:45 I mean, he is a wasp. I mean, like, by genetic queens. He is a wasp because he is a Protestant. He's white Anglo-Saxon, but he didn't pass their test. He's uncouth. And, you know, he's, you know, he's unkept and uncouth. Yep. So, I mean, hopefully, people find value in this. And this is why we do the show. So, I mean, we have the conversation people really can't have here on the show. And I know that both of us feel very fortunate that we can do this and that everybody can listen in. A lot of people are learning so much and also feeding stuff back.

2:14:52 My father was born in 1905. His name was Edmund Paul Buchkovsky. B-U-C-Z-K-O-W-S-K-I. And when he went out as a young man to look for work, the only thing he found were signs in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania that said, Polish need not apply. So he changed our name. He changed it from Buchkovsky to Birch. I went to college. I got married. The man I married first was a man whose last name was Norwegian. I always felt like Carol Birch sort of sounded like Klip Klop, just such a no-bitey sort of name.

2:15:35 And now my name was Carol Nermo. I thought that was so wonderful. You know, there's no stigma in being Norwegian. And aren't all Norwegians beautiful and tall and clean and good. And now maybe was I all those things? Suddenly tall, suddenly beautiful, suddenly good. And when that marriage ended in a divorce, who was I? Huh? You know, do you know that even though I was born in the United States, born to American Wasp legacy, very often I passed for Dutch

2:16:23 by appearance or in everything because you mastered the language? No, well, first of all, the blonde hair, the bluish eyes. And I definitely have some Dutch traits. Absolutely. I'm just saying, you can pass. There's many ways you can pass. Lots of people. The Dutch people feel that I'm one of them. I noticed that. I mean, they claim you as one of their own. Oh, they'll say he's Dutch. He's Dutch, man. Leave him alone. He's Dutch. He's one of ours. He's one of us. But I want to show people. When I heard this clip, what came to mind was Pinky from our show about passing.

2:17:05 Right. And it was like when those two guys stopped her on the road, they first thought she was a white woman. They're like, ma'am, you don't need to be on this side of town this time of night. And then she's like, oh, I'm from around here. And in an instant, their perception of her changed. Her complexion didn't change. Her appearance didn't change any of that, but their perception of her changed. Now, when I hear this clip and then think about in the same mindset, just from her last name changing. Now, her father changed it from a Polish last name to a more, I'll say, American Birch. I don't know what that falls. falls under, but then, but she still didn't feel like that was enough.

2:17:48 But when she got a Norwegian last name, she's like, oh, finally, yes. This makes me feel. Now, her appearance didn't change. Nothing changed about her. And this is the real pressure of WASPism or whiteness. I mean, let's just call it what it is. I mean, because I know I use WASP, but Protestant really doesn't matter anymore. It's whiteness. I mean, this is what they refer to. These are, we always have to look at words and how they're used. It's the white supremacist. People say, when people say whiteness, they actually mean the archetype of WASP. You know, you come from a two-parent household, financially, not even stable, but

2:18:34 your future is laid out for you. You know, your dad made all the right decisions. You're going to college. That's the thing that Trump gets, right? I mean, that's the disdain that he gets is his dad gave him $2 million. I mean, like, who is that? And all the people that have issues with Donald Trump, we've pointed out, has daddy issues. And I don't, I don't say that as a bad thing, but I think the disdain they have is for their own fathers to say, why did you bring me into this country, into this world less than? I mean, I think that is the real

2:19:12 issue because they're like, Dad, why couldn't you be like Trump's dad and have me $2 million laid up so I could be anything I wanted to have? And that manifests itself as, you know, what? If I can't have $2 million, nobody can't either. Let's get rid of capitalism. Let's go with Marxism. That's the real root of it. And that's just the teachers and the professors saying it. Yeah. Like I said, it's amazing. And there is a white civil war going on. I wish more people would talk about it. And well, you've only just opened our eyes to it, Mo.

2:19:52 So give us a heartbeat. White people are in shame. We got to think about this for a moment. It's like, oh, hold on a second. Is there something to this? Yeah, of course. And that's what you see when people show up to other people's houses saying Black Lives Matter and it's all white people. It's like, hold on. Isn't that great? It's like, it's all in the open. That's what I love so much about this period. All these absurdities are out in the open. And it is, you know, it's Orwell's 84. It's like good is bad, up is down. Fear is strength. You know, Black Lives Matter is white people protesting. It's out in the open.

2:20:31 The absurdity of it is there. And we're just okay. You know, we're either too stoned, too drunk, too fearful, probably. That's the best one: fear. As it goes, the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. And then they trigger each other with these jabs and these pokes, right? You know, all lives matter. Another thing, when you're doing the work, never use that term. It's a non-starter. I mean, I'm just be honest with you. We all know, we all know all lives matter. But what has been done is it's been hijacked to be a

2:21:11 almost an insult to say all lives matter. Of course, we know this. Yes, this is. But what you're doing is you would bring yourself down to their level of people that try to weaponize Black Lives Matter and you weaponize this other statement and it just furthers the internal white civil war. And I think the if you break, if you break it down into groups, you're going to see really it's not even Democrat-Republican. It's really the Nationalist Party and the Nazi Party. That's really what it is.

2:21:50 And I hate to see it, but all I see from Democratic leadership and the things we listen to here and look at and analyze is very reminiscent of creating an Uber race, getting rid of the weak elements, a lot of the tactics that are used. It feels just like a lot of historical repeat, i.e., the Second World War. And it's not only white people that embrace this. It's a lot of black people that look at a lot of lower class black people and like, if we could just get rid of them, then we'll be accepted. Then we're up. Then we move up.

2:22:33 Yeah. Yeah, we got to get rid of this. What they want to do is, and this is how when you say. want to be clear when I say whiteness, because none of us are white. You're not white, Adam. I'm not black. I mean, we really need to get to figure out who we are because these are corporate designations and social constructs, I mean, for lack of a better word. So we have to get rid of those. But when black people go off and get into academia and affluent positions, they look at like, if we could just get rid of those bottom feeders, then the whole race could come up.

2:23:13 And that is the, that's the whitest mind you can have. When I say that, I'm talking about the textbook term that we laid out for white supremacy. Yes. That is the white supremacist mind. Like, if we can not let them be who they are, but we can just get rid of them, you know, then they won't associate me with them. Yeah. And that's what you see now, like I said, with Trump and what he brought about is that now it's like, I thought they felt like they've solved that problem, right? I thought we got rid of those people. I thought they were, what do they say? They need to die. They'll say, like, those old white people, they need to die. And it's like, what?

2:23:55 But that's the calling. I mean, the calling is real. And that's why they have no problem with fentanyl and prescription drugs filtering over into the white communities. Poor people. They had no problem taking away their jobs, which is the manufacturing, everything. The whole concept of a flyover state. Fly over the trash, honey. Just a slightly different. The fact we say that it's like, oh, they get on TV. I'm like, people have to realize there's states between New York and California. Hello? I mean, like, why did you, you didn't realize that? It's people, you know, and it's the same thing with people in the

2:24:39 South. That kind of thing. Having grown up East Coast, obviously privileged, two parents, groovy, but by no means not a deplorable, not white trash, but probably borderline deplorable. My parents were government, so that kind of, you kind of get, you're okay. You get to flow along with the system. But I, too, until I started doing shows to promote my radio show in the late 80s and 90s, where I really went to almost every single bad top 40 radio station in the country, including Alaska in Anchorage.

2:25:19 And there you see it. It's like, oh, okay, there's all these people here. And wow, let me tell you, they really love their MTV. Holy crap. I was part of the fentanyl of the 80s, man. That was crack for the kids, especially in impoverished areas across the United States. It was like, holy crap, this is rock and roll. This is great. This is for us. Wasn't, but, you know, they weren't. But it was a counterculture. The counterculture always gets embraced because to be counter, you have to be the, well, that's what happens. Big money always comes in and ruins the art by paying off or buying, saying, buying up spots. So we see that all the time. Yeah.

2:26:03 But yeah, it's really a sense of I'm better than you. That's what it all boils down to. Sure does. And that's, and we heard that on the last show with how black people talk to other black people. How can you do that? How can you think that way? You know, there's no room for freedom of thought. So just on a lighter note, I have a couple of clips from people like us deleted scenes, and they have wasp lessons. It's from people like us. Okay, here we go. They were words that I grew up knowing that I was not allowed to say.

2:26:46 And if I heard someone say that, that was a red flag that might take 20 years for me to recover from. I might never forget that they said that word. But I unfortunately have had so many concussions from falling off horses that I can only remember them when I hear them. Evening gown was certainly one of them. Lingerie, my God. If someone said that word, you would never forget it. Drapes for curtains. I cringe at that word. It really has to do with the way you were brought up. The way your aunt showed you how to pick up a teacup. The way your mother showed you how to write a thank you note. You have to talk about piping.

2:27:30 Piping is called piping rock. They call it piping. Wow, my mom was wannabe. She, oh my god, that's so funny. We were raised, Mo. We were raised according to Emily Post's book of etiquette. And this was, if you look, I'll put it in the show notes. Emily Post, she wrote the book. She wrote this book on how to drink your tea, how the table is set, how to speak, where to put your napkin. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, Boulet lesson. I mean, wasp lesson. No, no, you're right. No, you're right. Also, yes, of course.

2:28:12 The bulet is nothing but the black wasp. I mean, it just filters over because there's certain things I don't, I never knew where they came from, but you don't wear white after Labor Day. I'm like, what? I mean, like, I never understood that. But in our community, these, I guess they learned it from white folks that we're in close proximity to, but these things filter down. And I just remember certain of them. Like I said, curtains, how to do, I mean, how you kept your house. Yeah, sure.

2:28:48 A lot of those things that were learned. And I will say this: when New York people, when black people would go to New York and come back, I'm talking about older black people, the one that did the great migration. They would pick up a lot of that wasp-isms and bring them back to the South. And they spoke very properly. And my grandma used to tell her sister, like, why are you talking like that? You know, that kind of thing. And she was very proper. I've told you my Tina Turner story, haven't I? Right, yeah. But okay, so anyway, Tina Turner, when she went, when she went to England for a while, she came back.

2:29:26 She was Tina Turner. I'm Tina Turner. I'm Tina Turner, be on Thunderdom. And she had this like weird kind of European kind of British accent. It was really odd. And New York and New Yorkers would do the same thing. People that were from the South, grew up in the South all their life, would go back and they would embrace this certain way of speaking. And language is such an identifier. I mean, if you listen to upspeak, up talk, dropping teas, a lot of, hey, I identify with you because I talk like this. And so you know that I'm part of your club and you know that I'm blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And maybe subliminally, there's a reason why you say axe.

2:30:07 I don't know. You know? And I want to say this. This is just a general question. Why does that irk people so bad? It doesn't irk me. Not you. I'm just saying, like you have Jamaicans that say tree for three. No, no, you missed. Oh, no, no. It is exactly what we're talking about. It is an irritation. Hey, don't you want to be where you really want to be? Don't you really want to be with the wasp crowd? Learn how to speak properly. That's exactly what these clips are saying. Learn how to say ask. No, but listen, think about it.

2:30:48 That is truly a white supremacist issue. Yeah. You don't, you can't say it properly, so you don't belong here. By the way, I looked up the white after Labor Day. I don't know if everyone knows this. That's a thing. Not supposed to wear white after Labor Day. Marie Clare magazine actually has a pretty good description. In the late 19th century, long before you could wear jeans to a Michelin star restaurant, the society ladies were engaged in an invisible battle with the nouveau riche, i.e., white supremacists, one that could only be won by the subtle manipulation of fashion.

2:31:25 The you can't wear white after Labor Day rule, fashion, ladies and gentlemen, was God, it's so obvious, was created to separate the old money elitists from the new money group. It was insiders trying to keep other people out, according to Valerie Steele, director of the museum at the Fashion Institute of Technology, and outsiders trying to climb by providing they know the rules. Fashion is, in fact, systemically racist on purpose. And we had this saying, we have this saying in the black community, if you know, you know. And this kind of thing. Like, if you know, if you're truly a wasp, no good upstanding wasp will wear white after Labor Day.

2:32:09 But the new people would come in, and there'll be a, no, like a, you know, a signifier. Like, oh, they're not really one of those. Not really that. And doing it all wrong. And to hear more examples of this, let's get into Wasp Lessons 2. They're extremely modest people. They never show off. And they're more. likely to have a small house than a large one. We have the historic house. We have the threadbare oriental carpets. We have everything you need to be upper class. Mercedes. Old Mercedes. Not new Mercedes. Nothing after 89.

2:32:50 Wasps love to party. And they like to drink for free. Sample class is extremely relaxed. You never wear too many pearls. Wear Gucci shoes, but wear them to death. Wear them out. And wear them during the summer with no socks. Maddress pants. Maddress pants. A lot of people wear maddress pants. I mean, you know, the great joke about wasps. Why don't they have any cockroaches in their house? There's nothing to eat. Nothing to eat in my house. We all starve by dinner time. Is that a thing? Like, enlighten me. This is why I look, Adam, I always say this.

2:33:33 You're one of the few only real white people I know. Yeah. Okay. I hope you take that the way I mean it. What I mean by is, like you said, you're Anglo-Saxon property. You came from. Of course. No, I'm just saying because like you just said, oh, yeah, we went to Austria the ski. And I'm like, what? It's always like the nonchalantness you say that. So is this no food in the house? Is that a thing? Like, do wasps not keep groceries? Well, let me address the Austrian ski trip first. Yeah. In all of Europe, but certainly in the Netherlands,

2:34:14 there's two types of holidays. One is you go camping in the summer or you go to the south of France and you drive. You all drive. Or you have winter sport, which is actually, hey, what are you doing for this? Going on winter sport. And most people will drive. We actually took the train each year, which was sleeper train. So it sounds a lot better than it is. No, but it's like it was like, I was like, wow, I was like, Buffy, Buffy, Buffy. Buffy, we went to Salamse, Salam Silla for when we went skiing. Oh, yes.

2:34:54 Shushing down the mountain. Oh, yes, I've got my gold ski with medal from class. We would always say, She-Hile, She-Hile, She-Hile. I'm not kidding. Only wasps know for me. So, no food in the house. This is interesting. I can't say that. Not because you laughed. I'm just struck a core with you. Well, I laughed for a whole bunch of reasons. Of course, I have a wasp upbringing, but

2:35:35 gosh, that's really, I mean, we probably didn't have it. It was all kind of measured, you know? It's like, here's what there is, and don't touch that. And, you know, it wasn't like. It was all planned out. Yeah, it was planned out. Yes. Although what's interesting is mainly because of my first wife's mother, so my mother-in-law, who is still with us, she's now 94. And they stayed with us a lot. And they all went through the hunger winter in World War II.

2:36:12 You know, they got bombed out of their homes in Rotterdam. And her husband would ride on a bicycle with wooden tires for 50 kilometers up to get one sugar beet. And they'd make soup out of rocks and nettles. And so. I love that privilege. Right. And so I think she, because I was married very young, so I think a lot of her influence rubbed off on me. I am always the guy who has, if you're coming over to dinner and you also brought two friends, no problem. I got enough. If the kids are over, especially if the kids are around, I'm hungry. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Here's all this stuff I got. Because that was kind of the environment that I was put in.

2:36:57 But in the Netherlands in general, very Calvinist. So, you know, like super Protestant, really waspy when you think about it. Very sparse. You know, you have one piece of, you know, you have two pieces of bread with cheese and butter in the morning. It's always fish on Friday, and it's always measured. And yeah, no, no abundance of food. Measured, I guess is what I'd call it. But no food. food. Yeah, it is, maybe. And I think that's the triggering of Trump. Now we get back to the troll, right? To you know, the trolling of Trump, the gold ceilings, having your own airplane, you know, the braggadocious nature.

2:37:42 All these are counter-wasp. If you listen to what she's said, they were like, it's pretty much a Mercedes. It's pretty much hip-hop culture, is what it is. Yeah, but see, like you said, you drive a Mercedes, but nothing over 89. Oh, Mercedes, right? You know, that kind of thing. Or you wear Gucci shoes, but you got to wear them out. That was me. I always had like, hey, hey, cool car, man. Yeah, you like it? Yeah, at a Rolls-Royce. I bought it in 89. It was from 79. It only had 5,000 miles on it, but still, it was like, it was not the brand new spanking Continental at the time.

2:38:21 It was the Silver Shadow 2. So yeah, is that because it signifies a certain, I mean, I guess they do that because it's part of being a WASP is you have to be like modest with it. You know, you don't talk about money. Oh, no. No, I wanted the $250,000 version. I couldn't afford it. So I'll settle for this. Oh, so you were more hip-hop. You were more. I am way hip-hop. Way hip-hop. I was the first person anyone at MTV had ever seen who had a mobile phone in my briefcase, you know, the big VHS-size phone. People be like, I'm like, hey, man. Yeah. Oh, I had all that, Moe. I had all that stuff. I was first, first, first, first, first.

2:39:06 We call that being geeky. And that's when this. But the roller, no, because I had my leather jacket on with my headbangers ball hair in the Rolls-Royce, driving into New York every single day. Get your cell phone in your briefcase. And I had the gray coupon in the dashboard in case someone asked, which happened a lot. So, yeah. Yeah. I was kind of hip-hop, I guess. Well, in these next few clips, I know everybody's worried about the WASP. They're in a dangerous species, but have no fear. There is a WASP conservation effort going on. Oh, thank goodness.

2:39:48 The death of George H.W. Bush has occasioned a fair amount of nostalgia for the old American establishment, of which Bush was undoubtedly a prominent member. It's also provoked a heated debate among commentators about that establishment whose membership was determined largely by bloodlines and connections. You had to be a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant to ascend to almost any position of power in America until the early 1960s. Surely there is nothing good to say about a system that was so discriminatory toward everyone else. Actually, there is. Oh, oh, oh, okay. Fareed Zakaria. All right. So we have Fareed caping for the WASP.

2:40:32 Yeah. Which I found this is fascinating that he, because he's a Indianian? Yeah, I think he's India Pakistani. Yeah. But this goes to show you how much they are praising George Bush, Poppy Bush. The guy, the guy that started. He's the angel of death himself. Yes. Although, I brought this up when he passed how long the nation mourned. He is the basically king of modern America. I'll just run down it one more time. He had his term of, I mean, he had, excuse me, start with Reagan.

2:41:13 He had Reagan's term, which a lot of people say Reagan was not mental capable, mentally capable. Yeah, he's mentally capable. So we had George Bush Sr. steering those eight years, and then he won his four years, and then he has his WASP inductee, Bill Clinton, come along, which he ran against him. So either way, he would have won. The family would have won. And then you go to Barack Obama. Well, his son, which he ran quarterback through. Yeah, he quarterbacked through Cheney. And then his other adopted WASP son, Barack Obama, won. And then you had setting up to be Clinton against Bush.

2:41:58 I mean, they've been running the tables. They've been running the tables. Every election, they've had their candidate in there, except for when the anti-WASP, the WASP eater of 45 Savage came through and just destroyed his son and his adoptive daughter. Yes. And we. we've been under WASP rule all of our lives, Mo. Although I remember Carter kind of. There we go again. Yeah. But I mean, just Fareed, he's over here. He's gushing over the day that the country, and a lot of people are. And that's when you see these never Trumpers.

2:42:39 They're really WASP. I mean, that's what they are. I mean, when you, I mean, that's when we talk about the neocons and we deep state. All these people have a not say wasp per se, but they have the wasp mentality of, no, being modest while you rule. It's like, if you want to be a good ruler, you don't let the people see that, you know, we have the finer things. So true. So let's listen to Fareed cape over the WASP even more. For all its faults, and it had many, it was often horribly bigoted, in some places segregationist, and almost always exclusionary.

2:43:20 At its best, the old WASP aristocracy did have a sense of modesty, humility, and public spiritedness that seems largely absent in today's elite. Many of Bush's greatest moments, his handling of the fall of communism, his decision not to occupy Iraq after the first Gulf War, his acceptance of tax increases to close the deficit, were marked by restraint, an ability to do the right thing despite enormous pressure to pander to public opinion. But, and here is the problem: it is likely that these wasp virtues flowed from the nature of that old elite.

2:43:58 The aristocracy was quite secure in its power and position, so it could afford to think about the country's fate in broad terms and look out for the longer term, rising above self-interest because its own interest was assured. Yeah, so let me translate what I heard. Sure. Let me just. He's saying that we missed the old days when leadership were anchored in white supremacy so they could do the right thing without having to pander to the lesser groups. That's what I heard. I mean, let me hear what you heard. This really comes down to the term presidential.

2:44:39 This is one of the biggest problems the WASPs and the elites have with Trump is he's not doing it right. He's not communicating right. This is not how you do it. This is not presidential. And we've become so accustomed to that that you saw Joe Biden give his speech, basically the same one from 2004 or 2008. You know, presidential. That's what we want. Yes. Don't worry, everybody. I'll take care of it. Often confused. And that should be like, this is the most diverse party, and they've been on it for three, four years now.

2:45:17 We're going to need a diverse representation. But then they pivot right back to the WASP representation of Joe Biden because they need to make sure they send a certain message. And the well-qualified and passing Kamala Harris. Yeah, because I mean, as we looked into her lineage, she comes from the right stuff. Slave owning on one side and the highest caste in India on the other side. She checks off. She was already a car carrying member. I would like to say one thing about Joe Biden. They should have not had him come out with the mask on and take it off, but because his hair sticking out the side of his head made him like a madman.

2:46:01 So that was very unpresidential. Just in appearance. He looked very unkept. That's the same when he hangs the mask off of one ear. You know, that's like, that's not a presidential thing to do. Yeah, because he walked up with the, I mean, just to show you how, like, I was going to speak to your point about presidential. Yes. We never see a president with his hair out of place. And so when he was standing up, I'm just telling you how I was triggered because when you said that, I looked and I was like, no, no, no, no, no. His hair is not right. That's not right. It's not right. So what happened was when he went to walk up with the mask on, when he took it off, it brought a patch of his hair out to the side.

2:46:46 And it irked me for to know. And I noticed that. That's funny. It's the waspism in me in Fairdo, right? Because it's like, you can't, you can't be a president and have hair like that. That's all right, Mo. Keep it up. You'll be in the club soon enough, my friend. You're working well. But you know what, though? A lot of my raising, I will have to say this. Sure is wasp. I was raised Protestant. Sure. I was raised, if you want to say, two parents is a white. white thing, I was raised in that way. I was forced to speak correct English when necessary. We were more lax around the house with the English and conversational English.

2:47:27 But you couldn't break, you couldn't break grammar rules. I mean, no, conjugating verbs the wrong way and that kind of thing. No, that was not accepted. That's not accepted. That was not accepted. So I think it's weird that we had, I hope people cherish what we meant Adam do here. For you travel the world, I've only lived in two states my whole life. And up until 27 years old, I lived in one state. You know, we both came from two parent households, but racially we're different. Generationally, we're different. But we find so many common things off the way we were reared. Yes.

2:48:06 That, you know, that's that's the real common bedrock. Yeah, and I think that waspism is probably the, and you know, I think we've, we've now discussed it. You know, that's the original culture of America. And there's a lot of this upbringing, the ones you just mentioned, which are super appropriate and part of our overall culture, which is politeness, you know, a lot, a lot of things that, you know, you don't have to go to college. Matters. Manners, etiquette. Etiquette, man. I mean, my grandma, she would take your head off if you had your elbow on the table. So oh my goodness, elbow on the table.

2:48:46 Same thing, Mo. And if you made the mistake that you put your knee up above the edge of the table, my grandma would stick a fork in it. Stick a fork in it. Yeah, one hand under the table, you eat with the other unless you're cutting meat or something like that. When you cut meat, you put it back down and then you, you know, you had to hold your fork a certain way. So these things bled over. So I'm not saying all things wasp or bad. What I'm saying is that to maintain this illusion of what they owe America to appear to be, they have to get rid of the undesirables. Be it their own, be it other groups, you have to go. And so you seriously have to go.

2:49:28 And you've got to wonder when it comes to this, when you have the rebels, the undereducated, the misfits who go off and create companies like Microsoft and Apple and other unbelievable Elon Musk didn't go to college. When you see that those are the ones that are creating the big creative new ideas, you know, what do you really want to strive for? What's really important? I'm glad you brought that point up. Go ahead and finish.

2:50:03 I'm glad you brought that point up because it just made me think of something. Could Bill Gates be virtue signaling and trying to overcompensate because he's not of that wasp background? And when I'm saying wasp, I'm not talking about the religious or the ethnic group. He's not from that. He's not from that ilk. So he's like, I could show you. I could kill people better than anybody else. I'll get rid of all your undesirables. Just let me in. Well, talk about daddy. Talk about daddy issues. Look at his father. His father was a super white supremacist elite wasp mofo, way up there.

2:50:45 Very important guy. I've seen that, but I haven't been to validate, but I've seen that. I've seen that. Daddy, how about this? Try this on. Daddy issues. Trying to make up for not being all daddy wanted him to be and finishing college. And even the success of Microsoft is probably still not exactly what he was supposed to do, you know, compensating for. That's very possible. Very possible. And when you say that, it makes me think. I'm going to say this one last thing before we get into the last clip. I witnessed this before in the telling of history. JP Morgan went through the same thing. He was great at making money. He was great at making deals, but his dad was of that wasp ilk.

2:51:28 Yeah. And he was like, Pierpont, he was like, that electricity that you're dealing with is like magic. You know what I'm saying? It was looked down upon that he wasn't dealing with sorcery. Sorcery. How come he got in the war business? Exactly. Or the finance business or that kind of thing. So it does matter the kind of business that you're in, like computers. Yeah, you want something good. All right. So I just want to say that. So to bring us back to the vaccine, because I mean, I know people are like, how do you get from vaccine? It was a fun journey. I like where we landed. But let's button up with this last clip about.

2:52:11 certain types of parents and their vaccination habits. Public health officials say they are alarmed at the growing number of cases of measles and whooping cough. They blame parents who are now refusing to immunize their kids. And it's happening mostly in wealthy communities. Carter Evans has a case in point. By his own admission, Dr. Bob Sears may be the only pediatrician in Southern California who does not advocate child vaccination. What percentage of your patients would you say choose not to get their children vaccinated in some form? I would say about half of my patients are not vaccinating. It's a growing trend, especially in affluent communities like Santa Monica and Malibu, where nearly 15% of kindergartners are not immunized.

2:52:56 In the Orange County community where Dr. Sears practices, almost 10% of kindergartners were not vaccinated. You don't necessarily have to live in fear of these diseases. You have to respect the diseases. You have to understand them. But they're fairly unlikely to happen to any individual child. Dr. Sears says he's not anti-vaccine, but people need to know about the risks. Parents don't want their baby to have a bad side effect. They don't want to be a victim of a very severe vaccine reaction. If you don't vaccinate your child, or if you're waiting to think about it, then you're taking a risk. You're putting their life at risk, potentially. You're gambling. You are. You're gambling. And usually at gambling, you lose.

2:53:35 Yeah. Interesting how the elites just don't want to do it. No, I got all kinds of reasons for this, but not my kids. Let the poor people do it. Isn't that amazing? After all is said and done, and their belief in science, which belief in science is a belief in waspism itself. I mean, because what they say, you know, the media, the universities, all those are white Anglo-Saxon Protestant institutions. So when you question those things, you question their whole existence. But then when the rubber really meets the road, they don't even believe in their own things. And as a reminder, Steve Jobs never let his kids play or have an iPhone or an iPad.

2:54:19 It's the tool of their indoctrination. You got to wonder why they didn't. I mean, all the big Silicon Valley CEOs, their kids are not on Instagram. Do they really limit that? If let them at all. I would like to see vaccination records of those their kids as well. They talk the big talk, but nah. Right. In the meantime, I'm going to see if I can find some certificates for you and your kids. That black market. I appreciate that. I'm sure it's on the dark web. Yeah, it's on the dark web. It's on the dark web. Mo, this was a lot of fun. I did not expect this twist. Enjoyed the conversation a lot.

2:54:59 Learned a lot about myself. And hopefully. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's, man, that's the best part of it. And this is what we do. And we appreciate the help we get from everybody and the financial support. Please remember it's value for value. So if you thought this was valuable, we would love to see that coming back to us for that mofax.com, also for the archives, and directly to the donation page at mofundme.com, M-O-E-F-U-N-D-M-E dot com. And as I always say, pay attention to everything and the truth will reveal itself. Our eyes are peeled once again, and we'll be looking forward to seeing y'all back here in about a week from now.

2:55:40 Mo, great show, man. Thank you so much. Had a good time. All right. Thanks. I'm seeing you next week. All right, everybody. Take care. Next week here at MoFax with Adam Curry. Don't fly away, don't you fly away. I'll be one of the love to me

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