Sunday, 16 August 2020

46: Kamala Kanye King

A high-stakes political gambit unfolds as Kanye West targets the 2024 horizon while Kamala Harris faces intense scrutiny over her prosecutorial record and elite heritage.

By Moe Factz with Adam Curry | 3h 37m listen | 39 chapters
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About this episode

Kanye West officially files for presidential ballot access in Wisconsin, triggering accusations of a Republican-backed spoiler campaign designed to siphon votes from Joe Biden. While Donald Trump denies direct involvement, the tactical alliance between the White House and West remains visible following the artist's high-level meetings with Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump. This move positions West as a potential amplifier for voters dissatisfied with the Democratic establishment, utilizing what critics label as political dark arts to disrupt the 2020 electoral map.

Joe Biden selects Kamala Harris as his running mate, a move that immediately draws scrutiny from the American Descendants of Slavery (ADOS) community regarding her record as a prosecutor. Critics point to Harris’s history of threatening parents of truant children with jail time and her role in the conviction of Jamal Trulove as evidence of a lock-em-up philosophy. Meanwhile, media outlets like The 19th, funded by the Rockefeller and Ford Foundations, secure exclusive access to Harris, while figures like D.L. Hughley and Karen Hunter face backlash for attempting to silence Black men who deviate from party orthodoxy.

The cultural landscape shifts as Angela Stanton-King gains momentum in Georgia by advocating for the restoration of the Black family unit and challenging the feminization of young men. This resurgence of traditional values coincides with a broader critique of the gender and race wars being promoted by political strategists. From the esoteric dragon energy shared by Trump and West to the historical context of buck breaking, the current political cycle reveals a deep-seated struggle for the soul of the American electorate and the definition of Black identity.


CHAPTER 01 / 39 Discussion

Welcome Back, Rocco the Dog, and Value-for-Value

The hosts return after a one-week hiatus, discussing personal updates including a new American Bully puppy named Rocco. They clarify the show's value-for-value model, emphasizing that the production is supported entirely by listeners rather than commercial advertising or endorsements. The segment concludes with an introduction to the "potluck" format for the day's topics.

tom sebastian· american bully· value-for-value· podcasting· mace

00:00 Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back, welcome. Mo Facts with Adam Curry for August 15th, 2020. This is episode number 46 and appropriate. Welcome back. We are back. Hey, Mo. You got me in a mood, bro. How do you know, Adam? Yeah, good. Yeah, good. You got me in a good mood. I like this. I mean, of course, I grew up with the original Welcome Back by Tom Sebastian. For the Welcome Back Cotter, right? That's right. Did you ever watch that as a kid or are we from a total different gender? Oh, you must have been watching super reruns then. The reruns, right? Yeah, definitely. Okay, nice.

00:41 That's Mace. Mace? Mace? Mace? Mace. Mace. Yeah. From Bad Boy. Well, Mo, we skipped a week. Apologies for all that. We're back and we're back on track. We presume. You never know. Life is funny that way. And I got to tell you, ma'am. First of all, how are you? How's everybody doing? How are the kids? Everyone cool? Everybody's doing good. All five kids are doing good. The wife. The wife. Okay. Very good. Happy to hear that. So I was. You just wanted to ask me five kids. I'm not going to talk about your side hustle, man. I'm not going to bring that up.

01:26 I was just going to say that. Yeah, we add a new addition to the family. Yeah. No, we add a new addition to the family. Okay. Of course, you would gloss over it because everybody knows you hate dogs, Adam. No, dogs are people too, Mo. I have nothing but love for dogs, man. Nothing but love. Please, please. We did add a new addition to the family, American Bully, tricolor black, beautiful dog, neater around the property. Tricolor black. We decided. Kind of looks like a Rottweiler, but it's the American Bully. I'm looking at it. It's weird. Aw, what a sweet. How old is he? How old is he? Eight weeks. Oh, my goodness. Eight weeks old. Yeah. Oh, congratulations. You indeed have a fifth child.

02:11 That's wonderful. All right. All right. Well, the next Mo Facts will be in four weeks from now, as Mo will be too busy potty training the dog. What a paper. No, you can go outside now, I guess, right? Yeah, it's not my dog. Trust me. I got you. My wife is going to pretty much baby him like she does the other four. So, okay, I got it. This gives you an incredible break in life. Everyone's doing their thing with the dog, and you can go sit in your office, your shed, roam around, walk the grounds. And I have somebody to complain to the news about. I'm like, you see that, Rocco? Yeah, exactly.

02:55 That's what I'm talking about. Is that his name? Rocco, is that his name? Do we have a name? Rocco. Nice, nice, nice. So I just have a quick, quick story from my side, you know, because we had been talking back and forth, you know, texting. And I forget it was two nights ago, maybe. Keep around. We're in bed. And I just got the phone. You know, I'm like, I was like, I'll send this link to Mo, you know. It's like 11 o'clock, and about, I was getting sleepy. So I just send it. Boom. Text comes back. And I have the sound on. Pleep. And it's Mo. And Tina turns around. She doesn't have her glasses on. She looks and says,

03:34 who's Mary? And why is she asking if you're up? Like, I was getting some booty call. You up? It's Jake for State Forum. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly who it was. I'm like, it's Mo. It's Mo. Mo. I'm not getting booty calls. That was pretty funny. Anyway, I know if I spin the wheel, I usually say I don't know, but I'm really psyched because, of course, I do have an idea of what today's show is going to be about. So as I roll out that wheel of topics for Mo Facts with Adam Curry, we find out what today is. What kind of topic we bring you the wheel of topics says what nobody knows except Mo and today I do

04:19 eat up hot luck potluck potluck potluck Love me some potluck Wait for it Who did that? Was that Dame Jennifer again? You make her sing now is that what that is That's actually from a kid show I forget the name slips my mind But it was from a kid's show but I thought that was hilarious especially the last part

04:59 here we are. Yes, and to remind everybody, this is a value-for-value production, which means we take no commercial money, no advertising, no nothing under the table, no host reads, no endorsements. We talk about anything because we actually mean it. And that's the only reason why we can do this. There's no way to cancel us, and we're supported entirely by the producers of this program, who we will be thanking later on in the show. But up front, thanks everybody for sticking with us, for staying subscribed and for supporting. And I think we're back to some interesting potlucks topics, just glossing over the list.

CHAPTER 02 / 39 Discussion

Kanye West Presidential Ballot Access and Republican Assistance

Kanye West officially filed for presidential ballot access in Wisconsin, sparking debate over whether Republican operatives are assisting his campaign to siphon votes from Joe Biden. Donald Trump denied involvement in the effort while praising West and Kim Kardashian for their work on prison reform, specifically mentioning Alice Johnson. The discussion highlights the potential for West to act as a political spoiler similar to Jill Stein in 2016.

kanye west· wisconsin· donald trump· joe biden· alice johnson· kim kardashian

05:38 Where do you want to kick it off? Let's dive into the first dish. Kanye West has officially filed to get his name on the ballot as a presidential candidate in Wisconsin. Since he announced his candidacy last month, he has had mixed success, meeting ballot requirements in various states. It's becoming increasingly clear he's getting help from Republicans and Trump supporters, leading some to question whether a clearly vulnerable Mr. West is being used to try to siphon votes away from Joe Biden. Are you aware of or have you encouraged anyone in the party to help him get off ballot? No, not at all. No, not at all. Other than I get along with him very well, I like him. I like his wife. His wife recommended certain people, as you know, for

06:19 including Alice Johnson, who's a fantastic woman, but his wife recommended certain people to get out of prison. They were in prison for a long time, a long, long time. That should have never happened. And I took what she said very strongly, Kim Kardashian. And she's got a good heart, very good heart. And I like Kanye very much. No, I have nothing to do with him getting on the ball. We'll have to see what happens. We'll see what he gets on the vote. I'm not involved. That's what it appears. That's what it appears to be. I mean, the dynamics that existed in 2016 that assisted Donald Trump in being elected do not exist this time around with Joe Biden, in my opinion.

06:59 And if you look at Joe Stein and the impact she had in several battlegrounds, it's very clear that the numbers would indeed assist Donald Trump. I am so happy that we have this in our potlucks do for today. The diss and misinformation about Kanye West. And in fact, some of the man, I got to tell you, I saw they had to bring out Jim Clyburn. He's the whip for the Democrats. He's the guy that pushed Biden over the edge, had to bring him out to say Kanye's nuts. It was just. Kanye is a big problem, isn't it? Yeah, that is true.

CHAPTER 03 / 39 Discussion

Kamala Harris Racial Identity and ADOS Perspectives

A brief discussion emerges regarding Kamala Harris self-identifying as Black and how this is perceived within the American Descendants of Slavery (ADOS) community. The conversation questions the terminology used by politicians when referring to "Black and brown" communities and the nuances of racial identity for non-ADOS individuals.

kamala harris· ados· black population· identity politics· brown community

07:39 Kanye is a big problem, and they know it. And man, it's fun to watch all the media that is either me tooing with some narrative that's being created or doing it themselves. It's really, really, I have not seen this level. Yeah, and as Shamicha Singleton, who's a political consultant, said he could basically play the spoiler like Jill Stein did in 2016. Yeah, sure. But with an even bigger impact, because in those states, those critical key states they need to win, there is a high, large black population.

08:19 And if he could shave off a few points off of every one of those states or a few of those states, it could be a huge political impact to that. And I think the Democrats know this. They've known this for a long time. I need to interrupt, and I'm sorry, but there's something that hit me the other day. I think I am, and I know I mentioned on no agenda because you just said black population. Usually you say so-called black. Right. But now that Kamala Harris self-identifies as black, I just wanted to know what's the vibe, man. It's like, to me, personally, I felt, well, if we just look at color, she's brown.

08:59 Politicians are always talking about the black and brown communities, which I guess is two separate zip codes, maybe one big zip code. The color people. So when a non-ADOS person says they identify as black and it's adopted as such, does that mean all brown people are black? Or ADOS, does ADOS now have, do you have, you have no color, man? I think they took away your black. We may get to Kamala today. Okay. You have to stick around. All right. I'm sorry. So it's a valid question, though, right? It's a very valid for that.

CHAPTER 04 / 39 Discussion

Kanye West 2024 Strategy and Media Portrayal

The hosts analyze Kanye West's current campaign as a "dry run" for a more serious 2024 presidential bid. They compare his rhetorical style to Donald Trump's, noting his use of inflammatory statements about figures like Harriet Tubman to dominate the media cycle. The segment addresses the media's focus on West's mental health and the role of Kim Kardashian in managing his public image.

kanye west· 45 savage· harriet tubman· colette colvin· media cycle

09:40 It's a very valid question, and I have a substantial answer for it. Okay. So, well, this would be a doozy. But we want to stick to Kanye right now. Okay. And the problem with Kanye is, if you notice, he mathematically. mathematically can't win being president. No, but if he's serious about 2024, this is a great dry run. Yep. You can build up, you know, some political cachet. He's even learning how to get on the ballot in different states. So he can like dry run all the way through the process. Sure. And after that, he'll be ready for 2024. And he could give a big middle finger to the Democratic Party, which he despises,

10:25 and give his right-hand man, BitLoki, a hand up or handout. Who's BitLoki? Big Loki, aka 45 Savage. Because Kanye is playing the role of Little Loki right now. Oh, okay. Big Loki. You got to explain the Loki bit. I don't think everyone knows this. Oh, yeah, from the last show. The comparison of the gesture or Loki. So if you listen to the last show, it's basically they are trolls/slash, what's a better word for it? Just they antagonize, right? I mean, for their own benefit. Yeah, disruptor. Yeah, disruptor.

11:06 So that's a good point. It's a good word for it. But yeah, the Democrats know, and they're trying to do everything they can. And they have been trying to do everything they can ever since Kanye showed any support for Donald Trump. I mean, they hauled him off last time to the sane asylum, if that's the proper word. To be clear for people who are new, I think both of us, and I took Kanye seriously before we even knew each other. But for me personally, you have to listen to Kanye. It's like listening to Trump. It's just a different version of what? What is this word salad?

11:48 And if you just listen and you keep an open mind, I remember when he announced this on stage and he said, you know, he started to get into Colette Colvin. The whole story about her instead of Rosa Parks. And you could hear and see so-called black people going, oh, man, what are you doing, man? Underinformed, obviously. That's why I called him Lil Loki because it's the same thing with the birther from Trump. He knew how it was going to land, but saying those outlandish things,

12:30 Harriet Tubman didn't free black people. She only let him go work for other white people. He knew what was going to happen. And by the way, that's true. That's absolutely true. You just have to think about it for a second. But okay. Well, that's the thing about slavery flavor was the choice. He does the same thing Trump does. He lays out this seemingly inflammatory statement, but when you sit down for him to clarify, it makes nothing but sense. Exactly. But he understands how the media cycle will pick it up. Say, hey, look how crazy Kanye is. And they can't help. They can't help but pick it up. At this point, it's so crazy that they're just backing off.

13:10 Yeah, he's crying and got 2020 shaved into his head, but they can't back off either. Well, I think Kim is helping. I think she's really helping by trying to stave some of that off. I don't know what their relationship is like, but I see her only doing good things for him. But the media is using it. She's going to get a divorce any day now. She's fed up. When you read the headlines, it's like, yeah, Kim Kardashian dot dot dot fears for husband's health or something. But then when you read in it, she says nothing to the nothing at all. No, nothing. And then they try to put that other kid in as a wedge. What's his name? G. Willie. Is it Chance the Rapper? No, no, no.

13:55 No, some guy that, you know, that was part of the whole story. Some other guy she had been somewhere with, and Kanye like, no, he's cool. Oh, yeah. I mean, of course, they're always going to use, I mean, it's fascinating that how they do that with her. This is the same party that goes against people that try to quote unquote slut shame. Yeah. So what it's convenient for them. Yeah. Hey. They'll just, you know, it's true. Yeah, they'll just dump on Kim. I have my own feelings about the Kim, the Kim and the Kardashian Coven and Kanye, but that's not here nor there. The COVID. I love that. But let's,

CHAPTER 05 / 39 Discussion

Dark Arts of Campaigning and the Liberal Plantation

Political analysts describe the efforts to get Kanye West on the ballot as "dark arts" and "Trump voodoo," while the hosts argue these are standard, legal campaign tactics. They discuss the concept of the "negative vote" and how West acts as an amplifier for voters dissatisfied with the Democratic Party. The conversation shifts to a critique of the liberal media's treatment of Black men who deviate from party orthodoxy, likening the political structure to a "plantation."

cameron joseph· jill stein· rust belt· negative vote· liberal media

14:38 in this whole setup, Kanye is getting some very interesting help to get on the ballots. And with that said, let's get into. number three. Donald Trump, to make a couple of metaphors, drew up inside straight last time, right? He shouldn't have won. Everything fell into place in the last week of the election. And then he scraped through in the three states that put him over the top. Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin. Wisconsin's looking like the best chance that he has to win again of those three states right now. And he won by less than the margin. His margin was smaller than the number of votes that he'll sign

15:19 last time, which is around 30,000 votes. So they're hoping to recreate that magic, those dark arts, and make this happen again. And here's Kanye West, who honestly, I don't know his motivation. I don't think anybody really knows his motivation of the media right now. It's unclear whether he is actively helping Trump. It looks like he's having some mental health problems, which is really tragic. And, you know, he's a guy who is a very talented, creative thinker who thinks outside the box and might have been convinced or convinced himself that this is a good idea. But frankly, it didn't look like there was much really happening around him pointing to actual success. He got in really late. It didn't look like he was going to get on. It wasn't clear anyone serious working for him.

16:01 Frankly, the people who are actively involved trying to get him on the campaign right now, it's unclear to me how they got involved. I think that's the next big shoe to drop here: who put them in touch with Kanye Bonnie? Who's coordinating this? Yeah. Yes, this is the insinuation. Exactly. It's the magic. First of all, it's Trump voodoo. Dark arts. Dark arts. Magic. Yes. Sounds like marketing to me. Exactly. It sounds like. That was Cameron Joseph, which is a senior political writer. But yeah, they're digging in and saying, and no, I'm going to be completely honest. This campaign was ready-made for Kanye to step in using some of Trump's people.

16:44 I mean, I'm not one of those people. Oh, you know, that's not what's this is clear what's happening, but it's completely legal. Well, of course it is. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's, yeah, it's obvious. And it's good practice. It's good practices. I mean, like, the goal is to win. And if you could keep points off the board, if you can increase that negative vote that we always talked about, even since the first show. Yep. That's only a couple persons. He's a negative vote amplifier, right? When he gets in there, the role of Kanye West to Donald Trump is this. He is a tool, but I don't see it as a negative. No. He is a hired gun brought in to say all the things with just as big a microphone as Trump has.

17:32 But it's coming from a so-called black person. And from that has swag. And from his perspective, which is different. And it comes from a creative person, which, as up until now, the Democrats thought they had cornered the market on creative people, according to John Stein. Only Democrats can be creative people. We know. But this is talking about one of the most creative guys in, you know, maybe in the last 20, 30 years. When you talk about his impact to music, fashion, and just overall mastery of the media, you know, the media cycle.

18:12 So you can't poo-poo Kanye West away. And I think they understand that. So they're trying to just say, oh, he's working for Trump, basically. I mean, that's the narrative. One of three narratives, but the main one is he's just a tool for Trump, which I don't disagree with. Yeah, but I think Kanye gets out of it what he puts into it because when he showed up to Trump Towers after 2016, then he pops up as a billionaire. And he was like 50 million in debt. How do you go from 50 million in debt to being a billionaire? Well, I've never believed his billionaire stories. I mean, I just don't know. And calculating net worth is very difficult.

18:54 Well, he's a Kardashian billionaire, just like how they said his billionaire. Yeah. Exactly. But he's worth a lot of money. He's a very rich person. He's only getting richer with the affiliations that he's making. And he's beyond council code. That's so bad. I mean, they're trying everything right down to, I'm sorry, he has mental health issues. And his wife is a slut. And still, that doesn't work. None of it's going after. They're going to go after their kids next. You watch. It's going to be Kanye Danger to the kids. Kim takes the kids away from Kanye. Watch. I predict it.

19:39 Write it down. And I don't agree with you at all. So, you don't think the media will do that? do that? No, I will. I'll say right now. I don't disagree with you. I disagree. I'm sorry. Okay. Yeah, I don't disagree with you. Yeah, I mean, there's no limit to what this liberal media will do to a black man when he steps out of his box. That's right. And this goes to show you that it is a plantation over there. Yeah. It is a, you're saying full-fledged, 100% plantation because, well, I'll talk about it later what tactics they used to, you know, get him back in control. But Kanye has been meeting with some very interesting people during this 2020 election.

CHAPTER 06 / 39 Discussion

Kanye West Meeting with Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump

Kanye West met with White House advisors Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump in Colorado to discuss a book on empowering Black Americans. While the media portrays West as a "babbling lunatic" due to his bipolar disorder, the hosts suggest he is targeting socially conservative, older Black Christian voters. They argue that West's message is being intentionally marginalized by mainstream outlets to prevent his ideas from reaching a wider audience.

jared kushner· ivanka trump· colorado· reuters· new york times

20:25 As Kanye West continues to pursue his quest to appear on the presidential ballot this November, a source tells Reuters the Trump supporting rapper recently met with White House advisor and Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner. The New York Times, which first reported the meeting, said it took place in Colorado last weekend and also included President Donald Trump's daughter, Ivanka, who's also a top White House advisor. West appeared to confirm the meeting in a tweet late Tuesday night, saying they discussed a book on empowering black Americans. And he offered to do a live interview with The Times. I just haven't had the time to heard it in the most elegant way possible.

21:09 The rapper and clothing designer announced his last-minute presidential campaign, followed by a series of rambling public remarks that have raised questions about his intentions and his mental health. I think that's the actual story I sent to you when Tina thought I was getting a booty call. I think that was the one about power nominates. I think that's it. Yeah. Yeah. I have not read the book. I haven't either. But it's just interesting that Kanye is meeting with Kushner and Ivanka Trump. Yeah. They're not hiding this thing. And it's just... I mean, I saw Jared Kushner in the interview.

21:49 He's like, oh, man, unlike all you people, someone has different beliefs from me, different political beliefs. I still stay friends. And he said that was such a damn smirk on his face. It's like, come on, Jared. Come on, man. We know what's going on. Like I said, it's completely legal. I think it's a smart strategy. And if the Democrats had a way of doing this, they would, but they don't. I think Kanye. Well, we've talked about Kanye and maybe his affiliations with the family, aka the Christian Illuminati. So it makes nothing but sense that, and he knows how the media has treated him before.

22:32 So whenever he can stick it to the media, he's going to do that. How important do you think it is that his Sunday service and his being reborn, his belief in God? Is that an extra important factor in this case, do you think? No, it's part when you understand who they're targeting, and it's not who you think they're going to target. People think they're trying to target the young black voter, oh, it Kanye. Those people are already quote-unquote woke. Or they're already so ingrained into the

23:17 liberal culture that you can't move them. I believe Kanye is targeted towards the older black voter. Black male, maybe specifically. Male specifically, but Christian conservative, not conservative politically. I'm talking about socially. And when you listen to the things he's talking about, it makes me, yeah, he's targeting. If they start to play these clips, when people stop to listen, it's not going to work out well for the media. West has been open about his struggle with bipolar disorder, and his wife, Kim Kardashian, has asked the public and media to grant him compassion.

24:00 Wes's appearance as an independent on the ballot could possibly disrupt the race between Trump and former Democratic Vice President Joe Biden. If he were able to garner any votes in U.S. states where the contest is close. Last week, the Washington Post reported that Wes's campaign has so far filed petitions to appear on the presidential election ballot in 10 U.S. states and that Republican operatives, including some with ties to Trump, were involved in efforts to support his candidacy in at least five of them, including Arkansas, Ohio, and Wisconsin.

24:39 Trump on Tuesday. Tuesday told syndicated radio host Hugh Hewitt that he had not talked with West about the Entertainers campaign. I'm sure he didn't. Sure he didn't. Wink, wink, nah, nah. He's like, he's got, you know, they got. So Trump's people are showing up, working hard to get Kanye West on the ballot, and Kanye West is nothing but the bullhorn that's going to say all the things that need to be said that are true. They're all true. I mean, it's not that he's lying. It's just that any other person, they could be canceled or written off. But every time Kanye West opens his mouth, it makes news. I mean, he has that same effect that Trump has.

25:20 And that's really you have to report on it. That's really the secret. And as long as you add in there, obviously, a mental episode, as long as you add that in there, his message still gets. That's exactly, that is the Trump playbook, really. Yeah. And, but you know what? The meeting, the Democrats and the liberal media are shooting themselves in the foot because people are looking like, I thought you were supposed to be for people with mental health issues. Yeah, exactly. I thought you were for black people being independent thinkers. But as soon as a so-called black man comes out and just questions things, he's crazy.

CHAPTER 07 / 39 Discussion

D.L. Hughley and DJ Vlad Critique of Kanye West

Comedian D.L. Hughley and interviewer DJ Vlad are criticized for their harsh denigration of Kanye West and Terry Crews. The hosts express disapproval of Hughley's use of racial slurs and his suggestion that West belongs in a mental asylum. The discussion touches on the "systematic teardown" of successful Black men who step out of line politically, mentioning the historical treatment of figures like Bill Cosby and Jay-Z.

d.l. hughley· dj vlad· terry crews· bill cosby· cancel culture

26:00 And not only is he crazy, but they laugh at it. You know, it's actually sick. Of course it's sick. It does the job of exposing how hypocritical the people on the left are. And it's just not going to work out well for them. And a perfect example of this berating of Kanye and anybody that thinks like him. I have an interview with DJ Vlad and D.L. Hughley. I swear, Jerry Cruz and Kanye West should get a room in the same fucking mental design. Yeah. I swear to God. They should have kids. They should have the same fucking medication. They should make out. What do they make niggas like that at?

26:40 I don't know, man. I don't know. But if somebody's mentally ill, when people say the insane shit those men do, usually they live under a fucking underpass with a cardboard sign that said, repent, Jesus is coming. They do. And I don't feel bad for people that can access help with just saying yes. They have the resources to do it. So it serves a purpose. But to denigrate your, to give people, I hope that I never give people who hate me or people like me comfort. I hope they never go, that really made me feel good. Wow.

27:23 I've always wanted to see the all-out attack. Yeah, but the first thing, what really happened to D.L. Hughley? Wasn't he on, like, was he on Saturday Night Live or something? And he just kind of melted away and then he pops up from time to time looking like a pimp? Right. They gave him the radio show out in LA. And he has a huge brown. That's what happened to him. Following. Brown and Brown. Right. I'm using Democratic Brown and Brown. Brown and Brown. Brown and Brown communities. So that's why he has to cake for the Democratic Party because when you're giving that kind of talk.

28:05 You can get a gig like that. Yeah. You got to do your best. You have to push the agenda early in the morning, brainwashing people. He's kind of like the West Coast version of Charlemagne. Got it. Right. I mean, because he's in the West. What station is on? Do you know what station he's on? I don't recall what stations he's looking on. I'll look it up. I'll look it up. But what pissed me off with this one is several things. I would never refer to another black man in the presence of a white man as a nigger. No. And then Vlad, he said, where do you find these niggas at? And Vlad, like, I don't know. Like, oh, so you mean you agreeing with D.L. Hughley? I mean, this is what I'm talking about.

28:46 It's like everybody gets a pass to just attack black men or black people in general, or so-called black people in general, when they have, don't participate in group things. In the system, yeah. They're not on board. And we see it, you know, and he, like he said, I'm not, I don't want to give comfort to white people. Well, you know what? Hold on a minute because I have a clip of him doing it, but I just want to finish up what I'm saying here and let you chime in. To sit there and say that and then say, oh, they need to share a mental asylum. You know, bro, you don't do, I mean, of all things, I mean, because we have a mixed company podcast, right?

29:28 But there's certain, there's certain things that you just don't do. What's really interesting. And one of them refers. referring to another brother, no matter what, no matter what. What's interesting. Don't do that. And I'm so desensitized to hearing a black man use the word. I didn't even, I didn't even think about it. I mean, because I'm doing the show with you, yeah. Right. And I know white people have no idea how that makes other black people feel. Not all, but some. And the funny thing was, just before I clipped this, I didn't want to make the clip, you know what I'm saying, three minutes long.

30:06 They were going on and on about Terry Cruz and Terry Cruz took the word coon and turned it into a positive leaning acronym, right? And they were like, you can't do that. You can't use a negative word. Blah, blah, blah. And then he turns around and calls me. Yeah. Unbelievable. This guy, Vlad, we got to keep an eye on him. But D.L. Hughley, he's a disgusting human being. I'm just going to say that from the bottom of my heart. Because at the end of the day, as with anybody, you can disagree with somebody just like if you have political disagreements with people.

30:45 That's one thing, but to try to tear another black man down in the media off of using their flaws, that's a whole different thing. Like if you have a political or I mean, because like me, I come here, I could see other black people, but it's on their views. Yeah. It's not on them personally. It's like, hey, you know what? This is what you say. Now let me counter that with this fact. And then you explain to me, you know what I'm saying, how you still have this understanding. But just to get on and to participate, because we all know what's happening here. And I'm going to reveal it in a minute because this is a systematic tear down. And we've seen it before and we'll see it again.

31:29 And as I always say, no black man makes it out alive. And that's the truth. Bill Cosby, whoever, OJ, whoever, none of us, you know what I'm saying, make it out alive when you get to that level because to get to that level, you had to make some deals with the devil. You did mention two fine specimens there as your examples. No, no, what I'm saying is if Bill Cosby was still kicking the liberal talking points, it would have been brushed away. Yep, groovy and good. You're so good. Yeah, that's my point. It's not the behavior because, I mean, of course, the way he did was terrible. But what I'm just saying is they'll cosign the bad behavior as long as you're pushing their narrative.

32:14 But as soon as you step out of line and push their narrative, what is Kanye? Kanye is a father. He's a businessman, billionaire, music musician. You know what I'm saying? What negative kick, I mean, and it just just opposed to, you know, I hate to do this, but how they look at Jay-Z. They give him all the passes in the world because if he pushes the liberal agenda, and as soon as he doesn't, they push him, you know what I'm saying? They smack him down. Of course. So, so that's just a systematic. Jay-Z is completely tokenized. He's very useful for the NFL or whatever else. And he likes the other side of that. Right. But as soon as he didn't back Colin Kappernet, you saw this start pulling all the dirt out of his file. Of course.

32:57 Don't forget we have a foul on all of you. To get to that point. But that comes from the Skull and Bones thing. I hate to hate to go off on a small tangent, but in the Skull and Bones, you had to land that casket and tell all your secrets. It's the same thing in Hollywood. You have to give them all your secrets. That way they can tear you down if they ever build you up. And these days, I don't know if you saw that Millennial Millie documentary, the two whistleblowers. Oh, man. They can nudge you just by looking at what you're doing. Like, for real. And they've got everything. Everything you, I mean, like, it's, it's kind of mind-blowing, especially the phone.

33:41 And I don't know how the OTG nature is in the ADOS community. Well, I'm glad you brought that up because I just want to make one statement. I think I'm going to be going off social media for a while, if not ever. Good for you, man. For this very fact, because, like you said, they know how to put things in front of you to trigger you. You can't get around it and you can't avoid it. So you're spot on with that one. And we're being highly highly manipulated and nudged. Yes. Big time. Big time. So just to leave off where, pick up where we left off at. D.L. Hughley makes a statement saying, I don't want to give white people comfort

CHAPTER 08 / 39 Discussion

D.L. Hughley on The View and Honorary Whiteness

D.L. Hughley appeared on The View to criticize Kanye West, labeling him an "honorary white guy" for his independent political thoughts. The hosts argue that this rhetoric implies that Blackness is synonymous with following Democratic mandates. They also discuss Dave Chappelle's support for West and the media's tendency to label both men as "crazy" when they challenge established narratives.

the view· d.l. hughley· kamala harris· dave chappelle· joe rogan

34:28 or people that don't like that don't. don't like me, or people that look like me, right? Yeah. But then he shows up on the view to tear down Kanye. So, you know, you talk about Kanye in the book, and due to his actions, you say, Yeah, he's an honorary white guy now. Okay, that's a strong statement. You couldn't have known that you couldn't have known that he would announce his run for president, which we're not sure if he's in or out at this point. What do you say about that? Could you envision a Kanye presidency? Oh my God. I don't think it's discernibly different than the right now. Literally, I think that when you're motivated, you grew up in Chicago and you're more made by Donald Trump than the example of Barack Obama.

35:11 Whether you agree with him ideologically or not, they're two distinctly men. One is aspirational, one's just an ass. But I'll say this: that they're discernibly, they're the same type of men. They both are amoral. They both are narcissistic. Neither reads. And I've seen both their wives naked. So I think they're exactly the same type. Wow. Well, he had the wives part right. That was pretty good. That was a good way to, that's a good way to wrap up that comparison list. It's crap, of course, but I thought that was pretty good. DL. Getting paid. But the view laughs when he slut shames.

35:50 Of course. Kim. I'm just showing you how these people have no really moral underpinnings. It's all about pushing their agenda. Because if anybody was to shame another woman for her behavior or sexual choices or whatever, they were like, no, DL, you can't do that. But oh, wait, we need to tear down Kanye. So they look through the Rolodex and say, who can we get on the view to give us comfort to make us feel comfortable that all black people ain't thinking like Kanye? You know, I listened to that and I'm like, he's now an honorary white guy. Blow me, DL Hughley. What is that supposed to mean?

36:34 You had to ask DL. I mean, I guess because he thinks for itself and questions his vote. Welcome to white Jim Kanye. There you go, thinking again. Right. There you go. You're thinking for yourself, Kanye. You got to must be a white white. What does that say about black people? What does that say about black people then? If you question things, then you are self-sufficient. You're white guy. You're in your own business. What are you saying? This is actually the whitest podcast in the universe. But then that goes to say, like we always talk about when you say white and then the opposite is black. So then you're saying black is not thinking for yourself and not being self-sufficient and not questioning things

37:15 and just giving your vote away. That's what he's saying. But what I'm saying is in the last clip, he said he doesn't give comfort to white people. And this is a big, big issue with me right here. You say that, but you know, when your phone rang or your agent's phone rang and they're like, The view, they want you to come on and talk about Kanye. Yep. You knew what you were brought in to do. It's like Jory Behart, she read, oh, you know, you remember that time when you said Kanye was an honorary white guy? That was kind of harsh, but I like it. You know, that kind of thing. It's like, that's real. That's real crappy. I mean, I don't appreciate that. No, because I can tell. Like I said, I already had my problems with DL, but now he's really off the invite list.

37:59 Right, because what these so-called black people do, bullet Negroes do, they corner the market on so-called blackness, and then it's like, oh, we can give it to people like Kamala Harris when we want to. And then we can take it away from Kanye we want to when blackness, what they call blackness, is called actually lineage. And there's nothing you can do about my lineage. Nothing. You cannot stop who I come from or where I come from or change that. But that's why I call it Black Inc. Now you see why it's a business. And it's like, do you have a license to operate in blackness? Oh, no. Your blackness license has been revoked, Kanye. You can't speak for black people anymore.

38:39 And oh, Kamala, we'll give you a black card so you can speak for black people. I mean, it's a real man. You know what? We need to get Kanye on this podcast. We just need to get Kanye. We can do an interview with Kanye, can't we? I can get that. We should be able to reach him. I think we should. And you know what? I would appreciate that because we will let him talk and actually get his thoughts out and not use these five-stick soundbites to make him seem like a crazy person. But Kanye knows how it's going to be used. I mean, he understands that. What he understands and what he called for appropriately, and this is, and he understands the media incredibly well. This whole powernomics meeting with Javanka

39:23 got blown out. in the, I think it was the New York Times, and he tweeted, oh, I'm happy to do a live interview with the New York Times anytime you want. Just tell me, he understands it's got to be live. It can't be recorded. If it's not live, and he's right. If it's not live, he can't do it. But we should be able to get the Times. I would hope so. And because we need to have avenues where people can speak unfiltered. Yes. And unedited, you know, and that's like you said, why didn't the Times take up a live Kanye West? I mean, that's like, that's a, what a great opportunity. What a great opportunity. What? You want to do a live interview?

40:06 Boom, I'm on a plane. Right. I mean, that moment, but they don't want him to speak. They want to use him and sound bikes and looking, you know, not the best to, you know, to tear down not only him, but anybody that thinks out of side the box. I think I can get Chappelle's number from Rogan. And Chappelle, Chappelle was out there. He wasn't at the ranch, wasn't he? I believe so. Yeah. Yeah. Right after they did the same thing to Chappelle. They did the Kaye. They did Chappelle. It's like, oh, he's crazy. You know, he ran to Africa.

40:45 That was kind of weird. That was a weird situation because I like that Chappelle went out there to show support. But then Kanye's like, yeah, hey, man, like, show him everything's cool. Tell a joke. And that's like telling a magician, hey, man, thanks for coming over for coffee. Show me a trick. You know, it's really rude. Or telling Kaye to sing a song. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, why don't you sing a little song there? Just do a little diddy for us. Dance, monkey boy. All right. Right. So, Kaye, so we have next up. This was on the Karen Hunter show, which she's going to have several appearances on this because we had to get the Boulet perspective on all things, all topics that are popular.

CHAPTER 09 / 39 Discussion

Karen Hunter Show and Silencing Kanye West

During a segment on the Karen Hunter Show, comedian Ida Rodriguez suggested that Kanye West's microphone should be "turned off" due to his mental health struggles. The hosts criticize the SiriusXM program for laughing at West's condition while simultaneously claiming to advocate for Black mental health. They argue that the desire to silence West stems from an inability to defeat his ideas in open debate.

karen hunter· ida rodriguez· siriusxm· bipolar disorder· censorship

41:28 So in this clip, we got a comedian, Ida Rodriguez, and she's from the At Funny Ida. I guess that's her handle. But she's going to speak on, is Kaye a genius? Kanye makes me laugh because I've said it here before. I think it's hilarious that only black and brown people, when somebody is famous, they're automatically a leader and a spokesperson for the whole group, right? Like white people could do stupid stuff. That's not us doing that. It doesn't matter who does it. What I'm saying, yes, it is. That's not us. Trump tweeted about him, how great his mother is. No, no, but what I'm saying is white supremacy is what white supremacy is.

42:12 Absolutely. That's absolute. Absolutely. Okay. But what I'm saying is, look at the people holding Kanye West accountable for the things that he says. And a lot of people look like him. And it's ignorance because they're uneducated. They don't have the information. And they automatically assume that because he has the microphone, that he is assuming leadership. He said that. See this, though. No, but no, but I know what he said. He also said he's bipolar. And we hit him. We hear what we want to hear. So we should give him a break because he wants his medicine. No, I don't think we should give him a break. I think we should turn his mic off. Yes, there are people. But that's what we all want, though. No, no, no. Put masking tape on his mouth.

42:57 Did you hear that laughter? Yeah. When they said, can you play this other? Can you play it for there, please? Yeah, of course. You want the laughter bit? The last thing? Yeah, just like that. No, but I know what he said. He also said he's bipolar. And we hit him. We hear what we want to hear. So we should give him a break because he's going to be. No, I don't think we should give him a break. I think we should turn his mic off. Yes. There are people. That's what we all want, though. Wow. That's what we all want. You know, MoFax listeners. I listened to, this is from SiriusXM ever since we started playing Karen Hunter on the show. It's on the Urban Channel, which is synonymous for black, apparently.

43:42 Yes. That is some woke-ass crap, man, all day long. There's not a lot of really interesting people. Well, that's interesting from a show perspective. But no balance. Just zero. Zero. Especially Karen Hunter. Or if she brings on a person, you know, he's not up to the level who she or he is debating, right? I mean, they'll lopside it. But MoFax listeners, if there's an opportunity, should call into that show and say, hey, excuse me, why are you laughing at a person who? who has who you claim is bipolar or that is having an episode?

44:25 Why are you laughing at that? Why? But then they'll turn around and say the same thing. Well, black men suffer from mental health issues, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, to you know, saying collect money or votes on our behalf, but then turn around and laugh. That's if you think he's truly suffering from it. And then you say, we need to turn his mic off. It's like, how about coming up with some ideas that challenge his ideas and beat him in a debate? No, it's like, shut up. Shut up, slave. I mean, that's basically what it is. He's just an annoying person to them. Very annoying. He's very, but you know what? Kanye knew this was going to be, he foretold this. And this comes from show number 13. It's a throwback clip.

CHAPTER 10 / 39 Discussion

Kanye West on Cancel Culture and Religious Values

A throwback clip features Kanye West discussing his refusal to be silenced by cancel culture and his commitment to Christian values. West warns that the same forces attempting to cancel him are also working to remove religious influence from American schools and public life. The hosts discuss how West's "Jesus Walks" legacy gives him unique credibility within the Bible Belt that traditional Republicans lack.

kanye west· alex jones· bible belt· cancel culture· hip-hop

45:10 Even when Kanye said he can't be silenced. Are you afraid of losing your audience? Yay. I told you I'm only afraid of God. I'm only afraid of my daddy. God. I done been 15 years. I'm telling you, God is showing that you can have your own thoughts, bro. I've been canceled before. There was canceled culture. Who told you that my career would be over? The same people that are telling you that you can't have a right to say who you will vote for, those people will be soon to take Jesus out to school. Those people will be soon to remove Jesus, period, from America, which is the Bible Belt. Those people will be soon, man. Come on, man. I ain't finna go Alex Jones level on y'all, man. Come on, man.

45:55 What y'all like? Wake up. Wake up, Mr. West. Wake up, culture. Wake up. Everybody think they show woke, but they following the rules of what woke's supposed to be. Hip-hop ain't never been about following rules. It's been about doing what you feel. I'm going to take the Louie. I'm going to throw it like that. I'm going to do it with the polo. I'm going to do it like this. Even like the way I talk. Hold on. Let me use my African-American voice. Let me use my Disney approved voice. Let me, you know what I'm saying? We're not even speaking in our own language, bro. Like, we talk louder than this. Africans talk loud. Italian moms talk loud. We talk louder, but we speak in our corporate voice. Or we don't want to ruin the deal voice. Or this why, bro, I love y'all, man.

46:40 And I love me. And I love Christ. And y'all should love to see this. I'm not, man. I'm not going to tell y'all what y'all should do. I'm just doing what I do. If you love it, then cool. If y'all want to rap me, it ain't going to make a difference. Honestly, I done been killed so many times on social media, and I'm still here. I'm still talking. Look at me. That's got to be one of my favorite Kanye clips. That's really good. I really like that. And that's what you have to do. That's why they wouldn't give him the interview. Because if you give him a live interview and give him the room to talk, it actually makes sense. Yeah, it does. It does. That's why we need him. And I would like to make one point.

47:24 I think the cancel canon originated right there with that clip. Yes, I will. Here's a little. Yes, indeed. I thought I recognized that. Instead of rap, just let that sink in for a minute. And then you asked me about him being a Christian and all that. If he keeps talking about removing Jesus in no states in South Carolina, North Carolina, people with the Bible Belt. People will pay attention. And black, you know, you're right. I mean, we got to think about the three pictures on the wall. You remember that? It was, you know, who was it?

48:05 We got talking about removing Jesus and you got Kanye West. Mr. Jesus walks himself saying the Democrats want to remove Jesus. What? So people is going to start to listen. And then they'll notice, you know what? The Democrats did remove religion from their planks. Of course they did. So I'm just saying, when you start getting volume behind that message, you might not get them to vote for Kanye or Trump, but people might have something else to do on Tuesday. I'm just saying. Yeah. Well, he does not get the mainstream. You know, Tucker Carlson's been, he's been covering him from time to time, and that would be a great spot for him to go.

48:47 He won't do it, I guess. I don't know why not. It seems like that would be a perfect spot. Well, he can't. Kanye, he has to walk this line, right? He can't be too Fox News. Yeah. He can't, you know, I mean, you can't submerce yourself in too much conservatism. Yeah, that would be a problem. Because one, I don't think he thinks that way. I think Kanye's like, let people think how they want to think, and then the majority will win. I mean, here's here because I think I think like him. I don't know him personally. I was going to say, it should be known that you really grew up following Kanye. I mean, you've grown up with Kanye. Yes. And now, like I said, I'll say it again.

49:29 I was a Kanye West, you know, follower or fan, I mean, for lack of a better word, ever since before he even got in front of the camera because I love his production. And I would go and buy CDs just that he did mute beats on just to read it. So I'll follow Kanye all the way up. And I'll know that he went from being super liberal. Now, I don't say he's ultra conservative, but any kind of conservative is orchestra conservative if you're black, obviously. So, yeah, this is where we're at. And well, this is an important because that clip just reiterates the whole idea is to turn off his microphone.

50:13 Let him rant, let him rave, let him do whatever he wants. Just make sure he doesn't get a hold of the mic in a situation where people will be able to hear it. That's literally what they want. And that's why you haven't seen an interview with him. No. And I was just going to say before we go to the next clip, I have the same, I think I have similar beliefs as Kanye. Put all the ideas on the table, debate, and discuss them. And then whoever the majority goes with, that's how society heads. If society wants to head to a Marxist future and that's where the majority is, hey, so be it. You know, what are you going to do? But to try to shut people down and cancel them and, you know, don't even let them get their voice out.

50:57 Nah, that's not the right way because that's what they've, you know, that's what this system is all about is suppressing. And but they always love to talk about voter suppression. What about voice suppression? What about ideas and suppression of ideas? Those kind of things. You know, but that doesn't matter. It became so easy. And Kanye is just one of the few people, but it became so easy to cancel people or as Roosevelt said, the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. And people are afraid of their jobs. That's why they're doing this against Kanye. People are afraid to talk, speak up because they know they can get canceled for anything. That tide is changing, though. That is changing.

CHAPTER 11 / 39 Discussion

Historical Context of Buck Breaking and Political Fishing

The concept of "buck breaking" is introduced as a historical method used by slave owners to humiliate and degrade strong Black men to ensure compliance. The hosts use a fishing analogy to compare how Democrats and Republicans interact with Black voters: one gives pointers but maintains distance, while the other provides temporary support but never teaches self-sufficiency.

buck breaking· slavery· democrats· republicans· independence

51:39 But not deeper than canceling for Kanye and other black men. This is a clear-cut case of black buck breaking. The term buck breaking refers to a process used by slave owners to break and destroy strong black men in order to degrade and demonstrate mastery over black people. This was frequently done by beating, sexually assaulting, and humiliating black men in public to make examples out of revolutionaries to deter our desire for independence.

52:17 In other words, they wanted strong black bodies with weak minds who wouldn't disrupt the institution of slavery. Even the image of black men being responsible fathers, husbands, protectors of their families was forbidden because such images didn't support white world dominance. Instead, hundreds of years of negative imagery toward black men as being lazy, dumb, and untrustworthy criminals have been highlighted before the world. Wow. It is true. This goes all the way back to slavery. And we see it all the time.

53:01 And if you look at the slave owners, move forward a little bit. Democrats, Democrats in the South, Democrats, they did that. If you just want to make it political. Right. And that's the point. Okay, let me let me get let me let me give you an analogy. This is just my high-level take on liberals and conservatives. Just, I mean, and I really prefer to say Democrats and Republicans. How about that? Okay. Because just make it consistent. These are parties. These are clubs. These are cults. I'm not in either one. So this is an analogy or a metaphor what I think about Democrats and Republicans and how they deal with black people.

53:45 Okay, you got a little boy fishing, right? And then you have a conservator come by and he'll say, hey, you might want to throw it over there to catch some fish or throw it over there to catch some fish. Every day he comes by past you and gives you a pointer or two. And a little boy's like, can I go with you, homie? He's like, nah, you can't go home with me. But I'll give you some pointers. You know what I'm saying? What a liberal will go and they'll take. you out, throw the ball around with you, take you home, but they'll never show you how to catch a fish for yourself. Right. So that's how I look at the two-part. And I know it's oversimplification, but that's how I see it.

54:23 That's yours. But you know what? I will rather learn how to fish and not go home with you than you take me home, but you can feed me when you want to feed me or not. Well, that is the teaching man to fish and he'll, you know, eat for the rest of his life, of course. Right. That's that's my allusion to that. I'm just saying, but that's the two ways they do it. One would never ever teach you how to fish. It's because if you learn how to fish, then you could think for yourself, you know, but they can't hold that. You know, do you think you for dinner over your head? Do you think that is ingrained? Do you think, uh, I mean, did that was that gone at some point? Did that come back? Has that always has that been that? Was it that way in the early 70s, in the mid-70s?

CHAPTER 12 / 39 Discussion

Cultural Vibrations, Equity, and the Big Man Label

The hosts discuss cultural differences in time management and the modern push for "equity" over "equality." They reference Kurt Vonnegut's "Harrison Bergeron" to illustrate the dangers of forced equity, where excellence is handicapped to ensure uniform outcomes. The segment also touches on the condescending nature of being pandered to by political entities.

kurt vonnegut· harrison bergeron· equity· equality· sportsmanship

55:05 Has it always been started in the 1950s and like 60s when we talk about no man in the house, right? Right, right. And we're going to get around to like what black men really want. We'll talk about that later in the show because it's very simple. It's very simple what we want. In relation to that clip, though, Mo, I have to say, we've never started the show on time. That's true. No, because you open yourself up with that, man. Yeah. But you know what? I have no, you know what? Some stereotypes are true. But you know what? I'll say this. That's not true because you are the hardest working guy I know. You work your ass off.

55:47 That's the point, though. It's like, what do you value? Time or quality. Quality. Right. So, I mean, but you know what? I work with other people from other countries, and there's other groups of people that are considered late. So I don't take it as a slight. When people say that, you know, it's a different vibration. I think we have to understand how people vibe. Yeah. And if you understand people, how people vibe, it's like, you know what? He said three o'clock. That's probably going to be about 3:15. Oh, yeah. I was still drinking coffee downstairs. I'm like, hey, Mo should text me more. Right. I was just busting your chops, man.

56:27 Just busting your chops. No, no, no. But what I'm just saying is if we try to understand people instead of trying to put people in a box, then you can relate to them better. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. All right. And just so everyone, I relate to you. It has nothing to do with skin color or culture. I relate to you because you're a winner. I like hanging out with winners. That's what I'm looking for. That's all I care about. Really, I could care less. I want to be around winners. And even if you're not a winner, because you could be a loser, you could be a winner on a losing team, but winning is a mentality.

57:07 It's like you always want to bring your A game. You always want to be prepared. And I think there's more of us out there than not, but they've demonized competitive, being competitive so much that people are scared to show competitiveness. It's like, you know, that's the problem. Even that's a problem. Yeah, of course, because then you're. Well, you know, this is the equity equation. Is you, you know, this whole, I've been learning from teachers how they're expected to teach and apply equity, not equality, but equity inside the classroom and inside schools. And it really is 100% about making sure everybody's at the same level.

57:49 If you're not the same level, we're going to give you five extra points to make sure you're there. That's a very simplified version of it. But the opposite version is Kurt Vonnegut, which is a great book and a great movie, Harrison Bergeron, where the equity worked the other way in a dystopian science fiction future, where you're a great dancer. Okay. You still get to dance ballet, but we're going to put 10 pound weights on your ankles just so it's so there's equity between the other dancers. You're really beautiful on television and your co-actor, not as quite as beautiful. So you have to wear a mask. That also may be part of this everyone wears a mask bit.

58:32 I don't know. And if people use equality and fairness as a weapon. No, synonymous, but they're not. Those two words are not synonyms to each other. Of course not. Fairness is, and I like to like sports, right? You show up with 53-man roster. I show up with a three-man roster. We had the same salary cap, but you just put it together a shitty team. Excuse my language. You know what I'm saying? And I put it together superior team. Now we'll play by the same rules. rules, pass interference, holding, you know, those kind of things. All those same penalties are called the same way. That's fairness. Yeah. But what they want is say, you know what? Give me two extra guys.

59:15 Give me two extra guys. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And that's not, and nobody wants to be that. Nobody wants to be pandered to or treated, you know, as a as you know, that's that's very condescending. And the Democrats and liberals haven't picked up on it yet that we don't want to be, you know, catered to or pandered to or those kind of things. Because what you're saying is, hey, all right, big, it's like what people call you big man. Like, all right, big man. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the most offensive thing you can say to somebody. Like, big man. Yeah. No, I'm just saying, like, you know how people they're condescendingly say it. Like, oh, you're a big man. Oh, hey, all right, big man, like that. Right. Yeah.

CHAPTER 13 / 39 Discussion

Tucker Carlson on Kanye West as a Conservative Messenger

Tucker Carlson highlights Kanye West as a more effective messenger for core conservative values—such as faith and the sanctity of life—than many elected Republicans. Carlson argues that the media shifted from calling West "controversial" to "mentally ill" only after he expressed support for Donald Trump. The hosts agree that the ad hominem attacks are a tactical move to avoid engaging with West's actual arguments.

tucker carson· planned parenthood· abortion· ad hominem· cnn

59:58 Yeah. I got you. So now we're going to get into why Kanye West is so dangerous. And you brought him up. This is Tucker Carlson. At this moment, the most compelling voice against abortion and Planned Parenthood is not a Republican. The most widely heard Christian evangelist in America is not ordained. Instead, he is a rapper married to a Kardashian who, by the way, everyone says is crazy. Kanye West is running for president, but that's not really the headline. The headline is that on core conservative issues, not political issues like legislation before the Congress, but on foundational questions about life and children and what happens when you die, no one with a national platform has been more honest or

1:00:47 sincere or effective than Kanye West has been, maybe in generations. It's all pretty shocking, really. Talk about an unlikely messenger, but it's real. Check out West's Twitter feed if you haven't seen it. Not everything he says is conservative, far from it. Not everything he says is even intelligible. But when West talks about his faith and about the gift of human life, you start to ask yourself, why aren't there any elected Republicans who sound like that? They say they believe the same things, but if they actually do, why don't they talk like Kanye West does? And the answer, of course, is because they're afraid to. But West is not afraid. He doesn't have to be.

1:01:26 He's too famous. He's made too much money. He sold something like 150 million albums over the past 20 years. And really, it's hard to cancel a guy like that. Yeah, I saw this. Yeah, I guess money is a big factor. Money is a really big factor. Or perception. Perception. Perception. Some perception. Well, it's not only money, it's because actual Kanye has true supporters. I mean, he doesn't have to put out another album. He doesn't have to release another sneaker. It's that he has built up such a equity with people.

1:02:03 I'm not going to say a race or gender, but just with people. Whatever he says, whatever he feels, he says. And when somebody has that kind of respect and use the word again, equity with people, it's hard to destroy him. Because it's like, this guy has always told us what he felt. He's like, Beyonce had a better, Beyonce had a better video. Yeah. George Bush don't care like black people. So when you build up, whether you like him or not, when you build up that kind of respect and clout, you can't cancel it.

1:02:45 Because it's, I'd love that. He's fascinating. I mean, he's a fascinating person. I remember that live broadcast and he's there with Bon Jovi and what else was it? With Mid Jon Stewart. He's like, George Bush don't care about black people. Everyone's like, what? Yeah, was Mike Mike something? Oh, Mike Myers, Mike Myers, Mike Myers. Mike Myers. SML. Yeah. Where's he at anyway? Back to Canada. He's counting his money, man. He's fine. Yeah. No, I'm just saying, but he has that kind of equity and he made, like, don't ever forget or underestimate the power of him making, always remember that he made Jesus walk.

1:03:28 I mean, like, that may seem small to some people, but that opened him up to be seen a whole different way. Sorry, what do you mean he made Jesus? A lot of people. He made Jesus walk. The song. So the song, Jesus Walks. Yeah. To do that in hip-hop at that time, when you like 50 Cent was like the biggest, you know, it was all about gangster rap and being hard. Here's a guy that's like, where everybody's zig and I'm a zag. Right. He always does that, right? When everybody goes super woke liberal. here he comes being saying more conservative. I mean, he always is on that cutting edge counterculture.

1:04:06 Trendsetter, yeah, and that's a problem because when your trendsetter starts to talk about things that will actually destabilize the power structure of the Democratic Party, you have to take note. And as Tucker Carlson says, they can't use the normal council tactics to it. And even in this next clip, Tucker Carlson is going to allude, knowingly, unknowingly, he's going to allude to butt breaking himself. So, what does the left do in response to Kanye West? How do you make Kanye West shut up? The short answer is you can't, so you work to discredit him. You go ad hominem. You ignore what he's saying, you attack him as a person.

1:04:47 You don't engage with his ideas. You know, you would lose if you tried that. So, instead, you try to keep people from listening to him. It's an easier job when you're dealing with less famous people. Thanks to our centrally controlled internet, the left can usually silence dissent in an instant with a press of a button. But with prominent wrongthinkers like Kanye West, censorship requires a finer touch, more artistic flair. In Kanye West's case, they decided to attack him as mentally ill. You hear that a lot now, but it's a relatively new tactic. It was just a little over four years ago that CNN published a piece about Kanye West. They highlighted his most famous moments, like the time he interrupted Taylor Swift at the MTV Video Music Awards.

1:05:29 CNN described all these incidents as, quote, controversial. But there was no mention of Kanye West being a danger to himself, much less mentally ill. No, just controversial. Not a problem. And then West appeared to say something positive about Donald Trump, and everything changed in an instant. Kanye West became a babbling lunatic, the kind of guy who pulls imaginary insects out of the air and soils his own pants. A total nutcase. That's good. There you have it. I mean, he gets it. He's like, they have to use a very nuanced way, you know, to tear this man down.

CHAPTER 14 / 39 Discussion

Dragon Energy and the Trump-West Connection

The hosts explore the "dragon energy" connection between Donald Trump and Kanye West, a term West used to describe their shared spirit and independent thought. They review West's tweets regarding his signed MAGA hat and his refusal to let "the mob" dictate who he loves. The segment notes the esoteric bond between the two figures that transcends traditional political alliances.

dragon energy· donald trump· kanye west· twitter· kellyanne conway

1:06:09 Not the ideas, but the person. Ad homing him. I mean, go after him. Absolutely. Right. But isn't that the point of debate? Is to bring your ideas to the table. If they're so crazy, then they're easy to debunk or defeat. It is so functional. And just on the young people for a second. I have conversations with the millennials. And if it comes up, who are you going to vote for? I said, I really like Kanye. It's like Pavlovian response. Boom, head snaps, back eye rolls.

1:06:47 It's so effective. He's nuts. Now, they'll still dance to his songs, wear his sneakers, but please, he's crazy. Okay. Right. But that's that goes to show you how powerful he is because they can't do it. They won't burn his sneakers and you know, his CDs and that kind of thing. No. So as long as he's making great art, he still has power. I will say this about the abortion thing because I don't, that's one of the things like the birtherism is a non-starter. So we don't talk about it a lot on the show because there's no win, no matter what side you're on. But I will say this: the topic of abortion,

1:07:33 that is a very strong argument in the black community. I'll say this. That was part of the reason why Bush won in 2012 in his reelection. There was a large amount of black people that went and voted or didn't vote on that one topic. So Kanye's been given the talking points like push abortion, push, you know, black men, you know, push mental slavery, these things. So if he keeps driving home this Jesus and abortion thing, he's going to reach older blacks. Right. The younger blacks, like I said, they're either with Kanye or not going to be swayed.

1:08:15 And really, it is what it is. But those older blacks, as long as he keeps saying it, and when I say older, I'm saying 40 and up. Okay, that's important to know. What media are they consuming? Are they also on Twitter seeing it and paying attention? Because this is all much younger medium type stuff in general. I think in general. Oh, well, they're paying attention because, you know, they watch MS, NBC, Jewelry, those kind of things. So when you have him on there, that's the point. It's just like, you know, birth or birther, you know, the birth argument.

1:08:53 Trump knew how he knew how. it was going to land, but it's like it's the bigger, you know, it's the bigger win because they're going to talk about something I want them to talk about. Right. And this is an argument that Democrats can't win, and they can't. And we'll talk more about that later. But I will say this: there is some esoteric connections between Donald Trump and Kanye West. One being the dragon energy. And I don't know if you've checked Twitter today, but right now my Twitter feed is just tweets from Donald Trump and Kanye West.

1:09:33 Kanye is getting kind of political. He tweeted, My MAGA hat is signed, followed by 30 fire emojis. Now, that is fitting because that is how many times I would set that hat on fire. I think, great man. I think Kanye's lobbying for a job as Trump's new communications director. He could just change his name to Kellyanne Kanye. But the height of Kanye's Trump praise has got to be when he tweeted: you don't have to agree with Trump, but the mob can't make me not love him.

1:10:15 We are both dragon energy. He is my brother. I love everyone. I don't agree with everything anyone does. That's what makes us individuals. And we have the rights to independent thought. Yes, we have the right to independent thought. And I independently think that Kanye has lost his mind. You know what, Kanye? You know what? Donald Trump is your brother. It is true. I am your brother too. And brother to brother, I just want to say, put the phone down. Kellyanne Kanye was funny. That was a good line.

CHAPTER 15 / 39 Discussion

Kundalini Energy and Spiritual Awakening

Dr. Janine Lim, a marketing executive and holistic health expert, explains the concept of Kundalini or "serpent power" as a dormant energy at the base of the spine. The hosts suggest that Kanye West's emotional outbursts might be interpreted as a spiritual awakening or Kundalini experience rather than a standard manic episode. They compare this to the spiritual rhetoric used by figures like Marianne Williamson.

kundalini· dr janine lim· hanson robotics· marianne williamson· spiritual awakening

1:10:57 But yeah, so there is some connection between Donald Trump and Kanye. The dragon energy. The dragon energy. And, you know, when you start to look into that kind of thing, I had to. I found Dr. Janine Lim, and she talks about, just get a little background on her. She's worked in the high-tech industry over 30 years, excuse me, over 20 years. She's currently a chief marketing officer at Hanson Robotics and was a marketing director for Dell, Cisco, and 3Com. So, I mean, this is a serious lady. She has a PhD in integrated and holistic health. So she's going to give us a talk about

1:11:44 decoding this serpent power, also known as the Kundalini. So the approach that I'm taking is to explore several seemingly independent concepts around energy and then later on to connect the dots to provide a Western description of the origin and cause of Kundalini. First, what is Kundalini? So just to answer this question, I'm covered a lot of different interpretations and a lot of different definitions. A key problem seems to be kundalini is a word from Hindu scriptures and there's no real equivalent in English.

1:12:25 And so kundalini is usually described as the primordial dormant energy present in three and a half coils at the base of the spine in a triangular bone called the sacred. And it's usually presented as sexual energy that is with us from birth. And interestingly, in the West, it has sometimes been diagnosed as a physical or psychological disorder because the spiritual awakening process often triggers alterations in thoughts and emotions and bodily symptoms that result in the process frequently being mistaken for mental illness.

1:13:07 I like that. Just to go back a little bit, you remember Mary Ann Williamson? Yes, when I did that prayer. That's the first thing I thought about when I heard the term come back. Right. So when Kaye broke down, when he was talking about his daughter and crying and stuff, it looked like he was having a manic episode. But I think probably his Kundalini energy was on like on 10. And he just had a because he almost kind of manifestation. Yeah, and it came from his midriff, kind of. He was doubling over a little bit. And that's, yeah, that's right.

1:13:47 That's a good observation. saw, I saw that it was real, something real was happening there, something very real to him, yeah, sure. And you know, him realizing that I was wondering this awakening, yeah, go ahead. I want to say him realizing that his dad had almost had him aborted the way he had done with his daughter, and it actually looked like he realized that at that moment, or or he was there was something going on. And the midriff thing, yeah, Kundalini, why not? Makes sense, and it's we have to watch this. Like, Kelly, I mean, Mary Ann Williamson, yeah, she dabbles in this kind of stuff.

CHAPTER 16 / 39 Discussion

Taylor Swift Snake Emojis and Trump's CEO Persona

A recent TMZ report about Kanye West using snake emojis is discussed as a media attempt to reignite his feud with Taylor Swift and discredit him. Meanwhile, the hosts observe a shift in Donald Trump's demeanor, noting that he has adopted a more professional "CEO" persona during daily briefings. They suggest West acts as a "hired gun" to handle the more aggressive media trolling while Trump remains focused on governance.

taylor swift· tmz· donald trump· daily briefings· media strategy

1:14:28 She was talking reparations, trying to help black people. Now, we have Kanye West talking to Donald Trump, talking about the dragon/slash serpent energy. And then, just came across my phone five minutes before we do the show. And I'm just going to show you how the butt breaking continues. Let me open my phone up right quick. Uh, where's it at? Um, it was on TMZ. Basically, they were saying that how uh Kanye texted that, Can you use snake emojis? And they were like, He's coming after Taylor Swift. So, now what they want to do is fight him against the white girl. Supposedly, you see, you said, I ain't had to say it.

1:15:11 I mean, I'm just and they've used this before, like whenever they wanted to get back in line. Oh, you remember what he did to Taylor Swift, this sweet, innocent, lack of better word, Lily White, you know, pure snow white woman. So, you can't be for this black man. He's oh my god, yeah, this is what he just came across, and it's like, hold on, like, you can't use snake emojis. What do you mean you can't right? And I don't understand why Kanye would say that either when you're talking about dragon energy or serpent energy, but that's not here nor there. Um, but that's my rap on Kanye. Um, I'm waiting for the interview. I put this all because I thought he would probably do an interview. I really want to hear, like, hear from him actually.

1:15:54 Because, I mean, like you said, Kanye West and Donald Trump are like opposites. And the reason why I say that is Kanye, he's better when he's sitting down one-on-one having a conversation, whereas Donald Trump is better once in front of a crowd and charged up, right? I don't think, I don't think Kanye does very well with like going off the cuff to large crowds. No, in fact, his ADHD distracts him. He ping-pongs around, and it's easier when someone else is driving the conversation with a question. He can just boom fire back and say it. And then you got to let him just let him get his ideas out, right?

1:16:37 So, yeah, that's pretty much it on Kanye. I think this is going to backfire and blow up in Democrats' face if they keep bothering him. Because the more you bother him and poke him, the more he's going to talk about two topics that you really don't want to talk with, talk about with a lot of black people. I think black people, so-called black people, have a what's the word I'm looking for? Um, cognitive dissonance when it comes to abortion and those things when they support the Democratic Party. It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that you know, because it does, and

1:17:18 it's perceived that we're being targeted by that practice. But I mean, I die, I don't know, I'll say that's a topic we get later. That's a long topic. If we want, I've done a lot of research on Planned Parenthood in poor communities. And I'm not doing, I'm not, like I said, I'm whatever you're if you're pro-life or you know what I'm saying, or pro-abortion. And I will say that term. I'm not going to say pro-choice because that's a misleading for what you're saying. I mean, if you're if you're for it, you're for it. I mean, like if you're saying this practice is necessary, um, no, in certain communities, fine. We'll stand behind it. Don't try to hide it, you know what I'm saying, what it is, it's a politically correct or acceptable term.

1:17:59 So, I mean, whichever side you're on, I mean, that's your business at the end of the day. I'm like, there are a lot of things, but what we have to do is look at it in a political sense. That's because of what we do here on the show. And that's a not, that's a loser for the Democrats if you actually talk about it. If it really gets, yeah, if it really comes, and it's interesting that just in this past month or so, it's become generally accepted and acknowledged that Margaret Sanger, who was the founder of Planned Parenthood, was indeed a eugenics, a stout and vocal eugenicist. And that's something that we've known for years and years and years and years. And now, suddenly, it's like, well, we all know that Margaret was saying, what?

1:18:41 Since when did it become okay to talk about that? And then when they start looking and see who won that award, I mean, you're going to start that yearly award. Then we're going to start looking at things a lot differently. And that's why I said, if they can make Kanye go away, it would be best. I think they need to leave him alone and stop reporting. If I'm giving the Democrats, they can't. They can't. It's too good. And you say Trump and Kanye are opposites. Yes, they also fill each other in. When Trump has a lull in his attention, Kanye is poised to jump in. You should look. I think I think pay attention to that. They may be basically without rallies.

1:19:23 Right. Now you had to keep the narrative going. And that's what kind of Kanye is doing because he doesn't need the large crowd. He can get the same energy. And I bet you the conversation is going just by tweeting about him. What's interesting, Mo, is that Trump has changed significantly. And it's the past two weeks. He started doing daily briefings himself, just himself talking. He may bring somebody up. Hey, tell me what's going on. And in fact, what he's doing now is the way I see it. This is a CEO bringing a quarterly report to his shareholders.

1:20:03 That's the vibe he's got. And, you know, and he knows how to do this. You know, it's like you always want to make everything positive. This is what he does. But he's no longer doing the crazy. Pay attention. He's not yelling at Twitter. Okay. There's still some stuff. But even just look at his demeanor. The press, there was a journalist yesterday said, Mr. Trump, do you regret three and a half years, 10,000 lies? And Trump's like, what did you say? He says, the lying. He says, who's lying? You. He said, and he just went to the next person. Where before he would have focused, gone off, counter-attacked.

1:20:43 It's very advantageous to have someone who's a little crazy when Trump is not being that crazy. That's why I call Kanye a hired gun. I mean, that's what he is. He is. Right. And now I can get back to my rallies. This may be more sophisticated than we think what's going on between those two. I would think so. The dragon energy. Yes. It goes way deeper than just a rapper and a businessman. It goes way deeper. But since we're talking about snakes, 15. But let's start the morning with the big Biden VP announcement. There he is.

CHAPTER 17 / 39 Discussion

Joe Biden Selects Kamala Harris as Running Mate

Joe Biden officially announced Kamala Harris as his vice-presidential running mate, describing her as a "fearless fighter." Critics argue the pick is antithetical to recent protest movements given Harris's record as a prosecutor who targeted non-violent offenders and parents of truant children. The hosts discuss the political alignment between Biden and Harris regarding Wall Street and Hollywood interests.

joe biden· kamala harris· vice president· wall street· criminal justice

1:21:26 It came in yesterday around 4 p.m. I have the great honor to announce I have picked Kamala Harris, a fearless fighter for the little guy and one of the country's finest public servants as my running mate. Kamala quickly accepted on Twitter. Let's throw her tweet up there. He has spent the unify the American people because he spent his life fighting for us as president. He'll build an America that lives up to our ideals. I'm honored to join him as our party's nominee for vice president and do what it takes to make him commander in chief. And what really struck my eye, Crystal, was this pledge that they took together. That's the final thing. Let's throw it up there. And the pledge, what really caught my eye is when they're like, we're going to take on powerful people and powerful interests.

1:22:08 And I couldn't think of something more antithetical than what either stand for, both in this campaign and have stood for for their entire careers. And it's just, yeah, it's the perfect pick, right, for Joe Biden for to pick Kamala Harris. They're totally simpatico on Wall Street, on Hollywood, on everything that could possibly matter. Look, we've just had this mass protest movement about race and justice and policing. And the answer to that is someone who went out of her way to criminalize parents who take kids and go to school, went after nonviolent marijuana users. Like she came up through politics in this very lock-em-up way. I mean,

1:22:51 that's a way to put it. Yeah. This had to be the dumbest VP pick I ever seen outside of, well, this might be even dumber than Sarah Palin. I liked Sarah Palin, honestly. No, no, I was just saying from a political standpoint. Well, she was good until she didn't have the chops to handle Jane Pauley. I mean, she's screwed. That's why I said it's even dumber because if you just would have kept her just her talking points, she could have been advantageous for McCain. Yeah. Hello, nobody likes Kamala Harris.

1:23:32 Black people canceled her. You know what I'm saying? At the very beginning, if you want to use the word cancel, we were like, no, we don't want her because we know what she's. she's about. Okay, now, now stop for a second because there's no doubt you have woke friends and family who probably don't listen to your you, they may not even know about this podcast, right? Which I understand, believe me. Um, is it across the board? I mean, are they do they are they denying history and they think she's a great pick? I mean, what are you feeling from your community? Okay, live report from the community. Um, oh, need a jingle for that. Yeah, serious razor jumper. Mo, I know you're out in the community.

1:24:17 What are you learning? Uh, boost on the ground here, Adam, for the community. Um, all serious, all seriousness. When you look at Kamala Harris, she's not woke enough. I mean, if you want to go woke, do you go Stacey Abrams? Right? I mean, if that's what you, if you, okay, if you say I got to go black woman, and they had to go black woman, they don't get it twisted. The black women flex their muscles on the Democratic Party and let them know, and that goes to show how much juice they have. And they said, and with you, didn't matter what kind of black woman, as long as the skin color was dark. Well, that's a problem. Let me go down the list of things. One,

1:25:02 she's not woke enough to be woke, and she's a cop. I mean, any way you slice it, she's and what I mean by that is when you're talking about talking to, we're talking about the woke people, the Black Lives Matter, you know, Black Inc., the Marxists, those kind of things. They can't get behind this. It's like, you want me to vote for? It's bad enough because of Joe Biden. Like, what is this? Like, Cadney and Lacey? I mean, what are you doing here? Cadmi and Lacey. That's good. No, I'm just saying, like, that. So, that segment of it. And then I'm going to be honest, there are going to be a segment of black women that are not going to like Kamala Harris because of her color and her appearance.

CHAPTER 18 / 39 Discussion

ADOS Critique of Kamala Harris and the "Good Hair" Factor

The discussion focuses on why Kamala Harris may struggle to connect with the ADOS community, citing her background and perceived lack of "wokeness." The hosts touch on sensitive topics like colorism and hair texture, suggesting that Harris's appearance and lineage may alienate some Black voters who preferred Stacey Abrams. They also note that Barack Obama's influence may be waning as a political commodity.

ados· stacey abrams· colorism· barack obama· identity politics

1:25:46 This is a real fact. What do you mean, her appearance? She's attractive. She's fair skinned, straight hair. Oh, she has the good hair. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've been doing the work, Adam. Come on, man. Come on. I've been around. I know. But I'm just saying that's going to turn a segment off. And like when you start digging into her prosecution record, when you start talking about she locked poor black moms up, I don't understand what they were like, okay, this is what we're going with. Hold on one second. What it's like, bro, hold on one second. I just realized that's an interesting point. How can any black woman, Ados,

1:26:29 identify with Kamala Harris? And specifically, because my ex-ex-wife had a cosmetics company, and I learned a lot about different skin tones, colors, etc. Black women, black women's hair is an issue so vast and large, neither of us are qualified to speak about it. But it's a huge deal. What another so-called black woman's hair is like. Oprah has been, you know, this has been one of the main talking points from what I know. Yes. And that could actually be more of a problem than you or I even realize.

1:27:15 It's not lost on me. I understand the psychology of it. It's going to be like, she's the pretty light-skinned shit with the good hair. And that's going to, that's why I always say if they wanted to go with a black woman, they should have gone with Stacey Adams because she's clearly the vibe of a real. The party clearly didn't want her, man. They did not want her, which leads me to believe they don't want black people and they don't really want Joe to win. I can't. I can't see it any other way. Well, I think they can get the sympathy vote. If they come out, you know, and then it's a black woman under attack.

1:27:55 It's an older man, you know, with a little slippage under attack. The Republicans have to be very careful. And I'm going to give a little advice to them. Don't overplay your hand. Oh, yeah. Totally. Totally. Be careful. With the, yeah, with the senile, dementia, black woman, you know, kind of thing. Just they, they're going to shoot themselves in the foot because they have a record they have to explain. But yeah, she was the worst pick out of all of them. You could go, I think, Valerie Demings, I think her name was. Yeah, Valentine. She could have went that route. I liked Valerie. I liked her a lot. Right. Not agreeing with it. She's also very woke, but I saw her in. some of those hearings with the Silicon Valley douchebags, and she was prepared.

1:28:38 She knew what she was doing. I was impressed by her. Yeah, so I mean, it's just Kamala Harris comes off as phony just to, you know, the people she's trying to reach, not to me. I'm talking about to the people she's trying to reach. You know, I mean, she gives these canned answers. And I don't know what the Democrats are thinking. I think maybe, oh, we, oh, she's just like, well, the female Obama, you know, that, but bro, Obama is an outdated commodity. Obama wouldn't win in these times. Maybe against Trump, yeah, but I'm saying against just in, if he had to run over with what we know about him now, he wouldn't win.

1:29:22 I know from inside the publishing world that, you know, when I was talking to a publisher about doing my book until I saw the contracts, like morality clause, see ya. The big thing in the industry was, well, you know, you really, you can't release your book, you know, near the end of the summer because the Obama book is coming, Obama book. It's now 18 months late. He's not even delivered the manuscript. They can't even get it out before the election, which I think was supposed to. That to me is a surefire signal that if Obama doesn't come out with his book, which it seems impossible almost at this point, then that's not the final punch they've got, you know, because that's what it would be.

1:30:06 Some kind of mastery. What are you going to talk about, though? Well, just to have him go and promote the book and have a reason to be places and give the final push to the candidate. Yeah, but I just don't think. I think he's ineffective just like Kamala Harris totally. Totally. The ADOS community. Yeah, they're done with him. People are, and when I say that, I'm talking about Nillini, it's not the political group. They're asking questions now. Like, why is it every time we turn around, is somebody not ADAS? But we'll talk about that in a few clips. What I want to talk about now is black women flexing their muscles.

CHAPTER 19 / 39 Discussion

Black Women's Political Leverage and the 2020 Election

A throwback clip features activists like Latasha Brown and Tiffany Cross asserting that Black women are the "backbone" of the Democratic Party and demanding a Black female vice president. The hosts argue that while Black women have significant leverage, their vote is rendered less effective if Black men do not also turn out. They suggest the selection of Harris was a necessary move to avoid an "automatic loss" for Biden.

latasha brown· amy klobuchar· anita hill· clarence thomas· hillary clinton

1:30:46 And this is a throwback clip from show 38. And this is where it's Latasha Brown, the co-founder of Black Votes, Voters Matter, Tiffany D. Cross, a political analyst, Brittany Packet, Packnet, Cunningham, an activist. Alicia Garza, she was in it. Sonny Halston. Oh, my. Angela Rye. Oh, and the topic. And Amanda Seals. Yeah, all the good ones. This is when they flexed their muscles and told the Democratic Party what was going to be. Vice President Biden, you need us. You owe us. Black women are miracle workers. We have been saving the Democratic Party since 1965.

1:31:28 2020 is no different. Your only path to victory is through black women. The voters who need to turn out, we know how to mobilize them. Our votes must not be taken for granted. The following commitments will begin to show black voters that you are serious about us. America needs a black woman vice president. Candidates like Amy Klobuchar will not energize us. Okay. America needs a black woman justice. Remember Anita Hill? We do. America needs more in a comprehensive black agenda.

1:32:08 The rules are rigged against our communities. Oh, nice how they slipped in Anita Hill. Of course, Joe Biden presided over the Anita Hill-Clarence Thomas hearings. And at the time, came across as firm and smart. But you look at what was going on, man. That was douchey. And what I want people to clearly understand here is they pretty much told the Democrats, you give us this black woman, or you won't see you won't, you or you won't see us in November. And that's an automatic L. Right. But the only problem is they can't get black men to fall in line with them.

1:32:47 So, I mean, and that's the problem in a nutshell. By itself, didn't sound like they were wanted in that little clip. They don't, but see, that's their dirty little secret, right? It's like, well, we turn out with 90%, you know, but it's you can't convince the people that we need aka black men to show up to the polls. Right. You showed up at 95% for Hillary Clinton. I think 85, 89% of the voting population, black female voting population went to Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton. Still lost. It doesn't.

1:33:29 doesn't matter. As long as black men sit on their hands and say, you know what, until you come with those tangibles, until you come with those, you know, something that we can feel, touch, and see, and smell, we're not going to vote. It renders the black woman vote useless. Now, they could threaten the Democrats. I mean, the Democrats had to do what they had to do because this, if they pick Amy Klobuchar or anybody that's a non-black female, that's an automatic loss. That's an automatic loss. Because, I mean, they would have just came out and destroyed Joe Biden. So, I mean, don't get it twisted that how much power this

1:34:10 Democrat graphic has, but it's not as much power as it could be. Well, it's not enough. It's not enough numbers. It's literally not enough numbers, but they're very powerful. It's not. But they don't seem to be able to. I guess the idea is you better bring your black man along. Or at least. That's the point. That's the point. And that's the wink, wink, nah, nah. It's like, now we'll give you this. Now you got to browbeat them into getting out and voting. And no sooner than she was nominated, the brow beating again with Dr. Noble on Karen Hunter's show about Biden's VP pick. Yeah, that did happen.

CHAPTER 20 / 39 Discussion

Disinformation Task Forces and the 25th Amendment

Dr. Safiya Noble discusses the "flood of disinformation" targeting Black voters regarding the criminal justice records of Biden and Harris. The hosts counter that highlighting their actual records is not disinformation but factual reporting. They also speculate on the potential use of the 25th Amendment to transition power from Biden to Harris should they win the election.

dr safiya noble· ucla· disinformation· 25th amendment· black lives matter

1:34:52 You predicted it. Yes, you did. You get credit. You get credit, Dr. Noble. You get credit. Yes. Yes. Right? Yes, it is. We have it. You said it. You said it. You said it was going to happen. And it's now happened. And I wonder how algorithmically we can help this ticket. Should we search? If we search Kamala Harris and Joe Biden and make that, you know, would that help? Yes, because let me tell you what. The one thing you can be guaranteed is already happening is a flood of disinformation and misinformation is going to be moving and is already. I'm on different national task forces around disinformation in the political realm, COVID-19 around a variety of, and black people are a major target for disinformation.

1:35:39 So you can be guaranteed there's going to be a lot of information flowing about Biden and Kamala and their that they are anti-black, that all of the kind of mass incarceration positions, law enforcement, linking Kamala in every way to every kind of anti-Black Lives Matter message that you can imagine. That's going to be flooding the internet. And people need to be smart and understand like how racism gets weaponized. Yeah, sounded like all true things to me. What's her name again? This woman who was speaking? This is

1:36:19 Safaya Noble, Dr. Safaya Noble. She's a professor at UCLA. Okay. Yeah, I just want to put her. Yeah, I got it. I want to put her in the show notes. But yeah, you hear that? It's going to, it's right off the bat. Maybe we could play the last 20 seconds of that clip just to go listen to her rundown. But, you know, it's all that different information about their criminal justice records. Yeah, that's crazy talk. Here we go. And Kamala, and they're that they are anti-black, that all of the kind of mass incarceration positions, law enforcement, linking Kamala in every way to every kind of anti-Black Lives Matter message that you can imagine.

1:37:05 That's going to be flooding the internet. And people need to be smart and understand like how racism gets weaponized. What does people have to be smart? What is her deal? What does she do that she's that she's all jacked that she predicted it, which means she's on the inside? What does she do there? Yeah, well, it's a big win. I told you asked me on show, I think, number one or number two, when I start bringing up this point about black women and their voting power and how they're going to be targeted. I mean, we've been on this from the very beginning. And I said, ego. Yeah, you're right. It's ego.

1:37:48 You can't tell me that a black, quote-unquote, black, or whatever, however you want to say, I can't even say, quote unquote, I don't know what she is, but you can't tell me she's going to be more powerful than the old Obama that was actually in the, you know what I'm saying, in the main seat. If he couldn't get it done, we ended up worse off than ever before after eight years of him. Right. I fear. Well, I fear what's going to happen. Yeah, well, we must also realize that the general accepted knowledge of this VP pick, and they're not even the official candidates yet. still have their convention. Is that tomorrow or next week? It's coming up. They still have to actually get all the votes from the party.

1:38:32 But what everyone out there is clearly saying is, well, you're really voting for the next president because Joe is pretty much going to keel over the minute it's all done if they win. Well, they have the 25th Amendment baked in. They've been pushing that. Of course, now we know easy to pivot to that. Yeah, we know how to use that. That's easy. Exactly. Yeah, so that would be an easy pivot. And nobody would bat an eye if Joe got rolled out of here. But the disinformation, even she said, black people are the most, you know, received the most disinformation. Now, if I understand it correctly, the majority of the media is liberal. So I'm just saying about my math skills, if we're the most

CHAPTER 21 / 39 Discussion

Joe Biden and the 1994 Crime Bill

A clip from the 1990s shows Joe Biden advocating for more police, prosecutors, and prison cells to combat "violent thugs." The hosts point out the irony of current claims that discussing this history constitutes "disinformation." They argue that Biden's past rhetoric directly contributed to the mass incarceration policies that the Democratic Party now claims to oppose.

joe biden· 1994 crime bill· mass incarceration· drug charges· disinformation

1:39:17 targeted for disinformation, that means that liberal media has to be doing a large portion of that providing the bad information. I mean, just by math, I'm just trying to talk. I know math is racist. I know math is racist. I mean, I get it. That's what the Russians are doing, man. They're the ones doing it on behalf of Donald Trump. Don't you see how it all fits together? Well, you know what? I dug and dug and dug, and I was able to surface me, bring some of that disinformation to the surface in 18. Oh, what he proposes is no increase of what the Congress has already approved last year.

1:39:57 In a nutshell, the president's plan doesn't include enough police officers to catch the violent thugs, not enough prosecutors to convict them, not enough judges to sentence them, and not enough prison cells to put them away for a long time. That's why, right now, six out of every 10 criminals who are arrested on drug charges have their cases dropped. That's why we think the president should triple, triple the commitment that he's made tonight for police, prosecutors, and judges for our cities and our states. If you haven't heard that disinformation, yeah, if you haven't heard the breakdown of this disinformation about the 94 crime bill, what show was that, Mo?

1:40:40 Do you remember what episode that was that we did that? I know it's called Black Don't Crack. So I'm not sure what I don't remember which number it was. I'll find it. But that was the title, Black Don't Crack. But yeah, that's your disinformation right out of Joe's mouth. So I don't know how you go. What kills me is this lady puts her, Dr. Noble puts her credibility on the line. And this would go to show you that how sick an operation it is. The sound bites are out there. We live in the, you know, saying in the information age, people seeing links and clips, you know, embedded videos all the time.

1:41:23 How is this different disinformation? Well, but she'll put her. It's not, obviously, it's not disinformation. It's just. No, but what makes a person like Dr. Noble put her. I'm just asking, like, I'm trying to grab my, I don't understand it. If you come to me and say, hey, Mo, you know what I'm saying? I want you to, you know, here's a big bag of cash. I want you to talk good about Joe Biden. It's like, you know what? That bag of cash is not worth my integrity. Where I'll, it won't last me my lifetime. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you now talk about a bag of cash where I can go and you know say Jamaica somewhere. No, no, I'm messing around. But no, I'm just saying, but what, I mean, you're going to be going to work tomorrow, Dr.

1:42:07 Noble. Like, what do they offer you? But I know what it is. She wants that clout so she can say, you know, I have access to the president, a vice president, you know, and that kind of thing. They're probably sorority assistant if I look deeper into it, which I didn't. Well, yes, the nepotism of political parties is that that's really what makes it all work. Episode number 30, 28, by the way, was Black Don't Crack. Okay, 28. Thank you. Yeah. So I have another piece of disinformation from more disinfo. Oh, gosh. And frankly, my staff went bananas. They were very concerned because we didn't know at the time whether I was going to have an opponent in my reelection race.

CHAPTER 22 / 39 Discussion

Kamala Harris and the Truancy Prosecution Program

Kamala Harris is heard describing her use of "political capital" as District Attorney to threaten parents of truant children with jail time. While she argues this was intended to prevent future crime, critics see it as an example of her "lock-em-up" approach to social issues. The hosts discuss the disconnect between her past actions and her current "progressive prosecutor" branding.

kamala harris· truancy· district attorney· san francisco· school-to-prison pipeline

1:42:50 But I said, look, I'm done. This is a serious issue, and I've got a little political capital, and I'm going to spend some of it. And this is what we did. We recognized that in that initiative, as a prosecutor in law enforcement, I have a huge stick. The school district has got a carrot. Let's work in tandem around our collective objective and goal, which is to get those kids in school. So to that end. on my letterhead, now let me tell you something about my letterhead. When you're the DA of a major city in this country, usually the job comes with a badge.

1:43:29 And there is often an artistic rendering of said badge on your stationary. So, I sent a letter out on my letterhead to every parent in the school district, outlining the connection that was statistically proven between elementary school truancy, high school dropouts, who will become a victim of crime, and who will become a perpetrator of crime. We sent it out to everyone. A friend of mine actually called me and he said, Kamala, my wife got the letter. She freaked out. She brought all the kids into the living room, held up the letter, said, If you don't go to school, Kamala's going to put you and me in jail.

1:44:11 Now, it's my understanding that she actually did put some people in jail for that. Yes. For the truancy. But that's this, that's disinformation. And like she said, I have some political capital, and this is what I was spending on, locking poor moms and kids up. Seriously, that's what you spend your political capital on. Yeah. And I'm going to say, I'm not saying there's not a correlation between kids not going to school and ending up, you know, in the what do we call it? The prison to pipe, what's it called? The classroom, the prison pipeline, or school, the prison pipeline, or whatever they want to call it.

1:44:49 Yeah, the numbers, the numbers are there. What I'm saying is she knows that these communities need intervention. There's good citizens in these communities that need protection. And she just knows it because she's talking about it now. I'm not saying that she's wrong at this instant, but it's like she does a complete 180 to be self-serving to make, you know, make political for her political aspirations. Sounds like that sounds like a real politician to me. Right. And that's why they start, that's why they serve no purpose. Because when it's all said and done, we shouldn't follow politicians.

1:45:30 We should find politicians that represent what we believe. It's like right now we're looking for somebody to get behind. It's like, no, what you're supposed to do is elevate people up that share your same beliefs and then you vote for them. Exactly. That's how it works. But no, they're like, oh, we got a brown woman over here. Oh, they'll love her. Yeah. They'll get the line behind her. But we've heard this disinformation bit before because on the show 18, I know we got a lot of throwbacks, but this is real. That's why I use the song Welcome Back because we have two people revisiting us that we called them early on, right?

CHAPTER 23 / 39 Discussion

Black Bots and the Tangibles Conversation

Joy-Ann Reed and Shireen Mitchell discuss "Black Bot" campaigns designed to discourage Black voters by focusing on reparations and criminal justice. The hosts mock the idea that Black voters asking for "tangibles" in exchange for their vote are Russian assets. They also note P. Diddy's quick endorsement of Harris after previously threatening to hold the Black vote "hostage."

joy-ann reed· shireen mitchell· reparations· p. diddy· black bots

1:46:13 With Kamala and Kanye. You bet. You bet. We were ahead of the curve on this. And now it's like we're doubling back. So we have the new listeners out there to fill them in, you know, on what we were pointing out, you know, maybe what's that almost 30 shows ago? Yeah. Because it comes from 18. This is Joy Ann Reed and Shireen Mitchell. Shireen Mitchell, she's some kind of computer whiz, algorithm whiz or something to that effect. But she talks about the attacks on the black voter. Because if we know, as we've seen, that the ones who are the most valuable to the Democratic Party is black women.

1:46:58 We have identified at least five existing campaigns that are focused on getting black people to do only one thing. What not vote for the Democrats. And can you name one of those five campaigns? I mean, we put up from the report that you're saying that there's a conversation about reparations that has to do with it. There's a criminal justice conversation. There's a lot of people who are reparations. Go on. Reparations, immigration, and sorry, reparations, immigration, and anything that has to do with the criminal justice system. So the reason that the targeting of Kamala around being a cop is important is because anything that hinges on criminal justice becomes a divisive issue.

1:47:40 Seriously, we're out of time, but how can people tell the difference between the real genuine thing of Black Lives Matter and the ones that are just designed to make you not vote? How do you even tell? You can tell right away by the language that they use most of the time. But if you see anyone who says basically tangibles or you're not getting our vote without us getting something back, you should start to pause and take a better look at what they're saying. Better look at those accounts and seeing what they're saying. Oh, you're getting canceled. You're getting canceled. If you're asking for something for your vote, you're saying you got to be around. Russian. That's pretty much it. That was the Black Bots episode. Wasn't that the Black Bots episode?

1:48:21 I think it was. Yeah, that was a Black Bot episode. And go to show you, I don't have a clip for this, but remember Mr. Diddy doing all the big talk. Oh, you know, if they don't come with something tangible, I'm going to hold the hostage, the vote hostage. Remember that? We briefly covered it. Oh, he immediately came out and endorsed Kamala Harris. Of course. Well, he's the bullet, man. It's bullet. No, I'm just going to show you. I mean, they knew they're getting hip to like, oh, we need to use the talking points. And even they had DL Healy on the view talking about reparations or whatever. It's like, okay, yeah.

1:49:06 So when are y'all going to ask Kamala Harris about reparations then? That's what I want to know. When is that conversation? Here's something that you may or may not. Gosh, darn. I haven't clipped it yet. This is Black Lives Matter, apparently, organizer. You probably saw the clip. She's yelling at everybody. Hey, it's in Chicago. If people are stealing from the Gucci store, that's okay because I understand they need foods for the families. And then she said, you need to see this as reparations. And I, to myself, thought that's some kind of really odd COIntel pro or something weird. There was a reason for that.

1:49:48 It felt like, okay, and it was just that. She's articulate, even through the mask. She's clear. I've never seen her before. I don't know who she was. But that to me was like. Stealing is reparations. That's real nice. Ain't that good? Ain't that good? Have you seen that clip? Have you seen what you know what I'm saying? No, I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that. That's new to me. Yeah. But yeah, it just, but this is what they do. If you think for yourself, if you question anything, if you question tangibles, respirations, criminal justice, then you're working for the Russians. And that's just Joy Ann Reed. Yeah. Well,

CHAPTER 24 / 39 Discussion

Jamal Trulove and the Critique of Progressive Prosecution

Jamal Trulove, a man wrongfully convicted under Kamala Harris's tenure as DA, describes her presence at his sentencing as a "celebration of a conviction." The hosts contrast his experience with the "progressive" image Harris promotes in her book, *The Truths We Hold*. They also highlight activist Shaun King's sudden reversal from critic to supporter of the Biden-Harris ticket.

jamal trulove· vice· san francisco· shaun king· progressive prosecutor

1:50:28 we've heard her talk about, we heard Joe talk about criminal justice. We heard Kamala say she used her political capital to lock up mothers and children for truancy issues. Well, let's listen to the innocent man that was sent to prison by Kamala Harris's prosecutors. I never talked to no detective, no police officer, no DA, nobody. Just arrested and then charged. Arrested and charged. That's it. Was the first time you saw Kamala Harris in person the day that the verdict was issued? She showed up at the two most pivotal times in this first trial and me being convicted and me being sentenced.

1:51:11 She wanted to be present for a celebration of a conviction. That's what it felt like, a celebration. A celebration. That's what it felt like. The reaction I get when I tell people my story is they say it's the worst nightmare. You know, it's the closest thing to dying. Jamal, I'm going to read you a quote real quick. The job of a progressive prosecutor is to look out for those overlooked, to speak up for those whose voices aren't being heard, to see and address the causes of crime, not just their consequences, and to shine a light on the inequality and unfairness that lead to injustice. It is to recognize that not everyone needs punishment. What many need, quite obviously, is help.

1:51:52 Kamala Harris wrote that in her book, The Truths We Hold. Does that sound consistent with the kind of brand of justice that you saw administered by offices that she was running? It definitely sounds like Kamala Harris right now as a senator. But at the time of her being the head district attorney of San Francisco, that is almost polar opposite of what I felt and what our community felt in San Francisco. Where'd that come from that clip? This is from the right-wing, right-wing outlet called Vice.

1:52:31 Wow. So I'm not more being facetious, tongue-in-cheek when I say that because I've used clips from Jimmy Dore that are attacking Kamala Harris. I mean, it's quite clear that nobody likes her on the left either, except for the except for Sean King. Oh, you didn't see it? He jumped on the Kamala. I didn't see this. Oh, my goodness. He might lose his, he might, he loses. He might lose his Black Lives Matter card. Oh, hold on a second. I gotta show. I gotta read this to you because, and maybe this was just a white Twitter thing. After all, it's Sean King. There was this tweet going around. Hold on a second. Now I have to find it.

1:53:16 And it showed his tweet about Kamala Harris before. Sean King. And then after the announcement, hold on a second. Maybe under photos here. Yes. Here it is. This is hilarious. Sean King on November 14th, 2018. I'll be frank and tell you two great I'll be frank and tell you two Democrats that I'm 99% sure I won't be supporting primarily because of their dismal history on criminal justice reform over the courses of their entire careers are Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

1:53:58 They both helped build and advance mass incarceration. Fast forward, August 11th, 2020. That's it for me. I'm incredibly proud to see a brilliant black woman, an HBCU grad, chose as a vice presidential nominee. I've done political work my whole life. It's rarely things dreams are made of. Kamala Harris is the most progressive VP nominee in American history. Most progressive. That's Sean King. He might be. If you go back and listen to Joanne Reed, she said, what's the difference between the real McCoy, Black Lives Matter, and these other.

1:54:41 I mean, so they're all in. Of course. There you go. That goes to show you that Black Lives Matter is willing to work with the police that they're trying to actually defund, or are they really trying to defunt? I mean, like, what is it? What is this? Power. Just power. Did they go way left to bring it back to the center? I mean, you always do that promise when you go way left. No. Fascism. It's what it is. This is this is okay. It's easy to say this, but having grown up in Europe and a lot of my friends, their grandparents had numbers tattooed on their arms from concentration camps. And so the Dutch, of course, long time ago, I think now it may be harder to find somebody, but they were very clear.

1:55:24 You know, the German, the Hitler regime, made the Germans fear, just fear. They were fearful of everything. And all you had to do was point to a group that says those guys. And there was economic fear, all kinds of fears. And this is what's happening. Well, that sounds a lot like butt-breaking because that's what they would do bringing the biggest male out in front of everybody and emasculate him or kill him, lynch him. And then it will instill fear in everybody else. That was the function of that practice. Well, here's the thing that really moved it forward. The Kristallnacht.

1:56:03 And it was the night that they went out, they went out and broke all the store windows and looted mainly Jewish windows because it was diamonds and antiques and gold and nice things. And I don't know. Yeah, Gucci. Exactly. No, no, no. I'm saying, I mean, the compare. I mean, like, yeah, right? It's the same thing, right? I mean, the Gucci stores and Louis Vuitton store. I mean, yeah. I see you, George Soros. I see what you're doing. Back at it again. Oh, George. One more trip around the merry-go-round. Well, we're talking about backpedaling and doing a 180 on their previous stance.

CHAPTER 25 / 39 Discussion

Pan-Africanism and the Jamaican Slave Ship Narrative

Lurie Daniel Favors argues that Kamala Harris's Jamaican heritage is part of a shared history of enslaved Africans, a view the hosts challenge as "insulting" to the distinct culture of ADOS. They discuss the historical differences between Jamaican and American Black populations, noting that Jamaicans often identify more with Marcus Garvey than American civil rights leaders.

lurie daniel favors· jamaica· bob marley· marcus garvey· pan-africanism

1:56:48 We have Lori Daniels Favorites here, and she says that Kamala Harris is black and qualified. Apparently, yeah, her mother's Indian. Her father is Jamaican. So therefore, she's not a black American to many people, but she's black to me. Can't get a cab. Well, I don't know. I'm sorry. I need to understand. So is this a virtue signal when you just grammatically go, she black to me? Yeah, that's like you have to do the black voice, and you say, She black to me. Come on, that's lame. This goes to show you, but to be honest, I'm glad you stopped that because I want to point out another thing. You picked up on one, but I want to point out another thing while we're here. This goes to show you how dated

1:57:36 Karen Hunter's talking points is. She said you can't catch a cab. That's 1990s New York talk. What are you talking about, man? You can't catch a cab. That's right. Yeah. Okay. Back to the point. But proceed. No, sorry. No, no, you're right. You're right. And I didn't hear that. So, right. Apparently, yeah, her mother's Indian. Her father is Jamaican. So therefore, she's not a black American to many people, but she's black to me. Can't get get a cab. Well, I don't, nobody's taking a cab anymore. The cops can't tell the difference. So let me just put that out there. Police officers can't tell whether or not your parents were formerly or your ancestors formerly enslaved. They can't tell. And let me just say because

1:58:21 Jamaica was not a land of free black people. I just want to be clear. A lot of people seem to say, well, she traces her roots back to Jamaica, not to slavery. Pan-Africanism. The island of Jamaica was originally populated by indigenous people who were not African. The Africans who arrived in Jamaica, from whence descended folks like Bob Marley, my mother, you know, these are people who are enslaved Africans who are often on the same ship as those enslaved Africans who landed in South Carolina. They got that earlier. Oh, you're saying that the ship from Africa dropped them Africans off different places? And then from South from the islands to South Carolina, where most of us,

1:59:04 wow, Larie, man. Yeah, man. So they're the same people. Same people just dropped off. Okay. That's just crazy. They just went to the island of Jamaica and they just dropped them off for the pit stop. You know, it's no problem. Man. That's insulting. This is what I'm talking about. That's right. This is very insulting. This is the Pan-Africanism. There's no historical proof for this. If I were to say that there was no difference between the blacks in America or Ados and Jamaicans, Jamaicans would be highly offended. Of course, there's a difference in our culture. We do ABCD. I have been to Jamaica 15 times.

1:59:48 I've done a documentary. Nice. Oh, yes. The holy herb and I are kindred spirits. I've been to Tough Gong. I've been to Hope Road. I've really done a lot. I love Jamaican people. They're not the same as American blacks. Come on. It's completely different. Nobody's in the middle of the day. They're all Marcus's American Blacks. You go to Jamaica, you talk about their heroes. It's Marcus Garvey. That's their guy. Not Martin Luther King. Marcus Garvey. That's their guy. And you know, we suppress Marcus Garvey and Malcolm X here, so that's a no-go. But it's just that they want to merge us all together. Now, I'll get what she said. I kind of understand.

2:00:31 Well, let me say this. The narrative that we all came in slave ships is BS in the first place, but I'll park that for a later date. Please do. Please do. I look forward to that next show. Put a marker in that one. Now, it's going to take about three or four weeks to put that one together because that's going to blow a lot of people's tops off. But I will say this: that the narrative that, oh, yeah, we just made one stop and then came and made another stop and dropped some more black people off there. They're all the same. You don't understand. That goes to show you. They don't understand the argument of the lineage of Adaw. What we're saying is America, America, the nation, owes the black people that was held under slavery in this country.

2:01:19 We have a specific claim. Now, we're not saying if we're successful in achieving our goals, that we wouldn't hand off our blueprint to the Jamaicans and the Haitians and all other groups to you're saying be repaired by the nations that held them captive. By the way, the Haitians are the only enslaved people who did actually rebel against their captors, France. And it's still messed up there. Right. I'm just saying, though, but to lump us all together and they say, oh, yeah, we're all black. I mean, that's what they're doing here. It's like, hold on, hold on. Well, this is clearly, it's clearly, they must believe that if you have

CHAPTER 26 / 39 Discussion

Lurie Daniel Favors on Michael Bloomberg and Voting

In a throwback clip, Lurie Daniel Favors passionately denounces Michael Bloomberg's "racist" stop-and-frisk policies, only to admit she would still vote for him if he were the nominee. The hosts use this to illustrate what they perceive as a lack of respect for Black men, noting that Favors would support a candidate whose policies she claimed led to the assault of her own husband.

lurie daniel favors· michael bloomberg· stop and frisk· megan mccain· new york city

2:02:04 a darker skin color, it's automatic racism across the board from everybody, from the cab to the cops to the cake baker. No, because I'm going to say no to that, and I'm going to prove it and not the next clip, but the following clip. But they are just making excuses and trying to throw anything against the wall that sticks because this is one of your favorite clips. This is a throwback clip of Miss Lurie Daniel Favors. And she goes on her rant about who she's going to vote for or not vote for. Bloomberg is responsible not just for stopping Frisk, furthering it, systematizing it, glorifying it, defending it up until last year when he decided he was going to run, but he was surrounded by intellectuals, black activists, activists of color

2:02:55 across the entire spectrum who outlined for him the problems. New York City. City Lawyers Association, Nightclue, the data, the statistics. He had facts, he had information, and he was committed to a racist policy that jailed black people, arrested black people, stopping frisk black people. I had 32 students, Bushwick 32, 32 students who were on their way to a funeral, had permission from their principals, had letters from their parents, accosted by the cops, held for 36 hours, had to go to trial, had to get in. My husband is beat up in court by court officers at their defense trial because the way in which police and court officers were militarized against black and brown communities.

2:03:36 And you expect us to just eat that he's got money, so he's going to be the best candidate. Gentrification, Bedford-Suyveson, Crown Heights, East New York, Flatbush, Harlem, the Bronx, black people driven out of this city under policies that favored wealthy white people and developers. We cannot even sustain our communities right now. Education. He undermined the ability for us to have culturally competent education. You want me to say, because he can beat Trump, so Trump gonna, he's gonna do what he does. Bloomberg is gonna do what he doing. Yeah, he might win, but guess what? All y'all getting arrested. All y'all getting stopped in Bridge. If he implements the same policies across the country that he furthered and supported in the state of New York, give me a break. We can do better than this. And I'm sorry, I got to agree with Megan McCain, but now I'm upset. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to add that with.

2:04:21 If he's the nominee, are you going to vote for him? I don't think he should be the nominee. If he's the nominee, because that's a strong possibility. If he's the nominee, knowing and having said everything that I just said, because I'm aware about how the politics and the system in this country works, yes, I will have to vote for him. That's the best clip. And I, and this is, of course, not the first time I've heard it. I think I recognize where she's from. It was bothering me for so long. I know where I've heard her before during the Obama years. Let's just listen again. Okay. Hold on a second. Bloomberg is responding, but he was surrounded by intellectuals, black people.

2:05:01 She's got to get angry when she gets angry when I recognize her. Across the entire spectrum, who outlined information, and he was committed to a racist policy that jailed black people, arrested black people, stopping Frisk Black people. I had 32 students. She's getting a lot of people. Bushwick, 32, 32 students who were all their way to him. I sure didn't get Obama's fall letters on their phone. It's the Obama phone lady. I'm telling you, that's her. But that goes to show you, it doesn't matter who she now. She blamed Mark Bloomberg for her husband. Everything. Everything. But for beating her husband, your own husband. But I'll vote for him. Come on. But you can't even. That goes to show you how sick in the head she is.

2:05:44 Because you're from New York, which is a blue state. Which is a blue state. Yeah. By a far margin, right? You know what? If I was in a closer race, I would vote for him. But the fact that my husband was assaulted under his. Yeah, I can't bring myself to do it. I can't do it. He whipped your husband in the ass. I'm still voting for him. That goes to show you how little respect, how little respect she actually has for black men. Especially your own husband. Your own husband. So you think they're not going to vote for a so-called black woman,

CHAPTER 27 / 39 Discussion

The Three Wars and Non-ADOS Political Appointments

The hosts identify three simultaneous "wars" in American society: gender, race, and generational. They observe a trend in the Biden campaign of hiring non-ADOS Black advisors, such as Karine Jean-Pierre and Karen Andre, while marginalizing ADOS figures like Stacey Abrams and Simone Sanders. This is framed as a concerted effort to integrate "safe" Black voices that do not prioritize ADOS-specific claims.

gender war· race war· generational war· joe biden· haiti

2:06:24 brown woman? I mean, come on. I mean, come on. This is going to start some strife within black American families. Start. Bro, let me let y'all in on something here. I've learned this for a long time about this about this show in general. We are a war report show, but people don't realize. Oh, yeah, front line. Of course. There's three wars raging right now: there's a gender war, there's a race war, and then there's a generational war. And if you notice, every one of our topics cover this war. And now we're just seeing this is the gender war.

2:07:04 This is the gender war. It's just now this is a microcosm inside of black people, but it's overall America is a gender war. Hello, as we've learned, we always start: let the black man go first, and then we'll do it to everybody else if it works. This is not a cynical joke. This is just a fact. Right. And then that's what the policy, like you were saying before, is that the plan is if enough black women can get behind a candidate and then they whatever tactics they have to use to browbeat the black man into the voting booth, that's their game. That's their game. Now, racial war, that could be black against white.

2:07:43 That could be so-called black ADOS against non-ADOS. I mean, all these things are raging. And you're very astute with your observation. but you know, this thing has been raging for a while now. It's just that it hasn't bubbled up. But now, when we get into presidential or vice president, presidential politics, we're going to start seeing it's going to ratchet up right. Black men are going to say, no, we don't want to do this. Another war, I mean, to show the race war is this is a clip from Kamala Harris. No, this is a clip, excuse me, from the guy over TD Hip Hop Media, which he does great work on YouTube.

2:08:27 He's going to explain to you a portion of the race war. Kamala Harris and Joy Reed are the worst kind of black people. They are the worst kind because though they wear the same uniform as you, they are not on the same team as you. And the reason that they are so easily co-optable is because their family lineage is not rooted in the plantations of American slavery. Kamala Harris is a biracial woman whose mother is Indian and her father is Jamaican. And if I'm not mistaken, Joy Reed's father is from the Congo and her mother is from Guyana. And before you want to jump to the conclusion and say, oh, you hate immigrants and you think black Americans are so much better than black immigrants.

2:09:05 No, no, no. I'm Haitian. Now, I was born and raised in Chicago, but both of my parents are from Haiti, which makes me first-gen born in the United States. So that's what qualifies me to be able to tell the truth and say a good deal of black immigrants, including their first-gen children like myself, do believe that they are better than black Americans and see themselves as something different from black Americans whose lineage comes out of the plantations of American slavery. This is why they are so easily co-optable, becoming useful tools for the system of racism, white supremacy. Wow. And that's coming from a Haitian American. Wow. That's good. I like that. So that's what I'm saying. That's why I'm talking about the race war. I mean, it's like a

2:09:53 so-called black community. And then there's an external. But just to give you some points of what he said, it's fun that Joe Biden names Haitian American Karen Andrew Andre as his Florida senior advisor. And then he also hires Haitian political advisor, Kareem John Paul, John Pierre. Where are all the ADOS women? I mean, let alone, very, very few. The only one who, or one of the few who qualified was Stacey Abrams. Go away. But she's been kicked to the back, Simone Sanders. Oh, really? No, because she jumped shit. She jumped ship from Bernie all the way to Biden's.

2:10:36 Right, right. And so now. But she's been marginalized. Right. She's been, you don't see it. That's why I said that. No, you're right. You know what I'm saying? You are living. You couldn't get her. You couldn't get her off television when she was running Bernie's campaign. You're right. I've only seen her once or twice, I think. This is a very concerted effort to go non-ADOS. It has to be because there's no way in the world that you can hire that many black people, so-called black people, and none of them are ADOS. What is going on? Right. So this gets back to my point, my original question.

CHAPTER 28 / 39 Discussion

The Great Replacement and Black Identity Politics

A discussion on the "Great Replacement" theory suggests that ADOS populations are being numerically diluted through immigration and the broadening of the "Black" label to include all people of color. The hosts argue that "Black Ink" is used to manipulate Black people into doing the bidding of powerful interests. They emphasize that they refuse to participate in the manufactured gender and race wars.

great replacement· kalergi plan· ados· immigration· black ink

2:11:19 Exactly. Now you can. Yeah. Yeah. So my question is, how does this go over, man? How does. What does your wife think? I'm just, I need, you know, here's what I'm missing. Now I'm missing Ados women's voice, which we just, you know, so it doesn't have to be your wife, but you hear stuff. I just don't see that many. If you believe in symbolism, solely symbolism, and you can thread that needle where she is from Jamaica, and Jamaica did have people come there from Africa. And, you know, by that correlation, then, you know, we can graft her in.

2:12:02 But a lot of politically savvy people that pay attention actually to politics, they're like, we played this game before. Well, it didn't turn out very well for us. Well, but that depends on how you look at it. What just struck me is one of the first things we talked about early in this series of the show was about whiteness and how in Europe, whiteness was really which is true white supremacy, was just, it is bloodlines. At a certain point, they need to bring in more quote-unquote white people to support, to have political support.

2:12:39 And then it's just like, yeah, you're from there, you're white. You're white. And they didn't even mean it. And as we discussed previously, is some women, even of higher standing, they looked to. to what was the word swarthy. They looked too swarthy, so they wore the white makeup. This is, in a way, the black version of that. We have, we want to hijack everything, but it's not a good hijack, obviously. Maybe that's what they're trying. Let's bring everybody in, and all the people we want in for political support, we'll just call them all black. Isn't that kind of what's happening? Yeah, that's that's that's the goal. But it's the same tactic, it's the same damn tactic.

2:13:24 Yeah, and what's even more sinister is they're bringing, and like let me point something out before I say go any further. There's a lot of uh Caribbean Americans, Haitians, Jamaicans, there are allies, as this person was from TDA on TD hip-hop media. For him to come forward and say, I'm sure he caught a lot of grief from people in his family, but the truth is the truth. Why would you stand in the way when you saw it with your read? If they're asking for tangibles, the trouble. Yeah. Like, you know, and then you come, you're saying, Lord, you're saying Lori Daniel is the same. I mean, it's the same thing. All these people, you know, they don't want to have black people question anything.

2:14:08 It's just like, just shut up and go vote, be activated. And they even said that. They didn't use the word activate, but in their pitch of Joe Biden, you need us. It was like the voters you're trying to reach, we can go activate. I'll use my word, but that's this, you know, they use a synonym for it. We can motivate. They think they use, but I like to use the term activate because there is no motivation. It's just turn you on, go vote, and turn you off for three years. And then rinse and repeat. But yeah, there's a lot of good people. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, you vote, and then we'll do a study about something for you and then rinse and repeat after three years. Oh, well, you know, you can't even do the study. That's why they did the study before. You know what I'm saying? Just to say, no, that it's like, no,

2:14:52 we'll have that next time around. It's coming. It's coming. It's coming soon. Don't worry. Tom Hall is going to do it. Yeah, so it is what it is, but I'm just pointing out that there are allies, but at the same time, I will say this: there's a sentiment amongst ADOS people, not all, that America only integrates, I think that's the right word. Yeah, integrates safe black people, so-called black people. And there's a reason for that. Our numbers are dwindling. Our numbers are ADOS Americans.

2:15:34 Because if you think about it, just do the math. If you're in, you say, through immigration, you're bringing all these black people in, but the percentage stays at 13%. And we're talking about, we heard Malcolm X use this number, 13%. Right. What's happening to the ADOS numbers? It's shrinking. Thank you. And when you factor in multiracial people, those kind of things. Like I said, I'm not saying this again. What I'm saying is they're bringing in people to replace. So nobody doesn't look around one day and say, yeah, well, all the black people go.

2:16:11 So now it's just. Go look at Wikipedia, the great replacement. That is exactly what the European strategy has been. And that's the Calergy plan. It's a yes. Yes. It's real. You can really read it. I'll put it in the show notes. No, but what I'm saying is if we were just to dwindle away, I mean, because we had what we keep within the direction where we're headed, we're eventually going to be, you know, down to like three, four percent, you know. And then somebody's going to look up like, you know, why I haven't seen a black person in two weeks. That kind of thing. So it's like, we got to keep integrating so you don't realize that you're gone. Black people actually disappearing. This is a real phenomenon.

2:16:55 But I mean, that's, that's the reason why. But like I said, we have allies in all groups, even some on this show. Some, you know, I don't, I don't play that. The one thing I don't participate is in these wars. I won't participate in a gender war. No. I won't participate in the race war or the generational war. I mean, we hear boomer, millennial, you know, women, men, those kind of things. It's factions. And that's why I want to use the term black ink because this is black ink at work. It's that we will manipulate black people through disinformation to do the bidding of powerful white people.

CHAPTER 29 / 39 Discussion

Kamala Harris and the Brahmin Caste System

Karen Hunter and Dinesh D'Souza offer conflicting views on Kamala Harris's heritage. While Hunter suggests Harris's mother may have been from a lower caste, D'Souza points out that her mother's family were Brahmins—the highest Indian caste—and her father's ancestor, Hamilton Brown, was a major slave owner in Jamaica. The hosts argue that Harris's background is far more elite than the "struggle" narrative suggests.

karen hunter· dinesh d'souza· hamilton brown· brahmin· caste system

2:17:36 And it is what it just is what it is. So going back to Karen Hunter, and it's a second clip. clip from Kamala Harris is black and qualified. Karen Hunter chimes in. So, I'm going to say this. An Indian woman from a country that values whiteness, from a country that has a caste system that categorizes people based on their proximity to whiteness, to marry a black man tells you all you need to know. I mean, like, this is a point of shame. And you can ask people in the Indian, you know, watch Indian Matchmaker.

2:18:16 The lighter you are, the more valuable you are. For her to marry a, not just a black man, a black man from Jamaica, tells me where she lies in this, you know, this space of race. You know, that was not a choice that I'm sure was met with a lot of yay and partying. And, ooh, this is great. You're bringing home a black man. Yippee. No, nowhere in the world did that probably land properly, which also probably tells me that her mom might have been in a caste that was not well valued. And then I'm just going to just drop that and we'll just move on. Wow. So now she's even trying to say her mother is possibly black because she comes from a lower caste system.

2:18:57 Yep. That's where the black, that's where Brown becomes black. Right. That's what that's the grafting in. But there's only one problem. There's only one problem with their argument. And that's the next clip. Right. No, possible. It's not possible to make a racist. Okay. Well, Dinesh Salouza, what is it? D'Souza. Dinesh D'Souza. Yeah. Who Akash has coined as the Indian Candace Owens. Yeah. Okay. So we have to clarify it. He had a fire argument, right? He traced the lineage of Kamala's family, her heritage. So she's both Jamaican and Indian.

2:19:39 Yes. Okay. He traced the Jamaican legacy, obviously back to Jamaica, but specifically, she's a descendant of this dude named Hamilton Brown, who is the largest slave owner in all of Jamaica. Apparently, he has a town named after him in Jamaica. Oh, shit. Wow. He got a statue. We're going to take that bitch down. Let's do it. I'm just saying, this is very interesting. And then, wait a minute, it doesn't stop there. I saw another thing. I saw another thing real quick. And then her mother's side, they're Brahmins. Oh, yeah. Brahmin is the highest caste. And for thousands of years, Akash, they exploited millions of low-caste untouchables, did they not?

2:20:22 They did. Trump thinks that this isn't going to work for his audience. I think this is going to steal the votes. I think Trump's people are going to like, yeah, you talk about it. This bitch beast, bro. The best part, it was actually her father who wrote an op-ed in the Jamaica Observer, I think, about the slave-owning roots of the family. Yeah. That's the best part. And this goes back to our last conversation. No, it was the one about, I think it was when we did the Marxist.

2:21:02 And they, yeah, and then we were talking about how a lot of these women have daddy issues. Yep. There's your Kamala daddy issue right there, front and center. Yeah. Because we always look at that. I mean, that's just something. Well, he also looked at the parents's. He also left the family when she was young, I believe. That's the point I'm making. So, I mean, there's some animosity in that regard. No, in that regard, she's totally black. If you look at it from the outside Democrat perspective. Yeah. Yeah. Well, how would they look for him to get the Barry, the Barack Obama Senior treatment?

2:21:43 Oh, yeah. Oh, totally. Oh, yes. Does she have any siblings? We have to keep an eye out for that because we saw in 44 how the media just shredded Barack Obama Sr. Yeah, we just don't want to know who you are. Go away. And even he kind of shined his dad. But then on top of that, for Karen Hunter to be so inadequately informed about somebody that you go on your platform to talk about to millions of people, you make the assumption. And this is when she's been elected. I mean, not elected, but selected to be vice president. You come out and say her mom might have been part of the lower class. Her mom was at the highest class.

2:22:26 The same people that you were saying that her mom would have to answer to for marrying a black man. That's who her mom is from. These people don't do any homework. And she's the main one that gets on the own. air and talk about, yeah, you need real journalism. You need to have facts and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then you get out here and blow smoke out your tail about Kamala Harris and her being from the lower caste system. Kamala Harris, like I said, she is the worst possible VP candidate that he could pick. I mean, it has to be has to be a losing pick, unless they are really delusional, which is possible.

CHAPTER 30 / 39 Discussion

Democratic Strategy and the 2012 Election Mirror

The hosts compare the 2020 election to 2012, suggesting that Trump is successfully using the "moral card" via Kanye West to reach Black voters. They speculate that Kamala Harris was selected to secure funding from donors like George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The segment ends with skepticism about whether Joe Biden will actually participate in a live debate against Trump.

barack obama· george soros· michael bloomberg· rust belt· presidential debate

2:23:08 It's got to be to make them lose. I can't see it any other way. I mean, they are raising a ton of money. Sure. I mean, I'm looking at, let's just put my Democratic strategist hat on for a second. I'm looking at these two losers and I'm saying, this is who we got to go up with. Yes. Nah, let's wait four more years. Let's keep our powder dry on our good candidates. Well, you know, go four more years and then we'll and then we'll do what we did with Bush. I think this is mirroring 2012 all over. This is all 2012 all over again.

2:23:48 On Trump's side, he's playing the moral card and the Christian card and the abortion card via Kanye, like Bush did. And it resonated with black people. I was there because I would talk to people, you know, I wasn't voting. I did vote in 2012. That's the only election I voted in, right? So I was all anti-Bush. I mean, because I can relate to the kids now, how they can be anti-Trump, right? When you hear he's Satan or whatever, those kind of things. It's like, okay, yeah. Bush got a lot of that. He got a lot of that Satan stuff. But when you talk to, when I would talk to older people, black people, they were like, I got to vote my God.

2:24:32 And I think that that's a real sense. I think Trump's tapped in it. And then the Democrats are looking like, we got this kid Obama, but he's not ready yet to come up to the majors, right? I mean, he needs to play AAA ball for a little longer. Let's just throw Kamala and Bernie, I mean, Joe Biden out there. I mean, if it works, it works. But if it doesn't, then it's like, eh, I think they did with part of the strategy or what is definitely happening is it's all the down ballot. So now it's about the Senate. It's about getting

2:25:09 four or five seats in the Senate. There's Michael Bloomberg money. She had to be approved. So Bernie, it couldn't be Bernie because Bloomberg wouldn't come in with his hundreds of millions of dollars, which he promised. He promised he would do it. And I'm sure that I'm sure he's good for it. I'm sure he's all in. And so that we're not seeing a lot of those races except for, ah, that lady who won, she's queuing on crazy. Otherwise, you're not really hearing about those races, which are incredibly important. If Trump wants to be truly effective, he needs definitely to hold on to the Senate and preferably to

2:25:48 get some ground back in the House of Representatives. Otherwise, all he'll have is executive order. But lower black turnout means you lose those races. I mean, you have to do that. Of course, of course. So why would you put Kamala? I don't understand. I mean, you brought up Bloomberg, but Stacey Ayers. Yeah, until she wasn't. Until she wasn't. I don't know what she was. But you know what? No, no, Mo. You know what? I may be wrong. Bloomberg may have stepped back. Some other group may have stepped in. There's certainly a lot of other people hovering around. No, well, Soros is

2:26:32 involved. He's very backing. He's backing. No, he put up. I think she's one of the original Soros sisters. Because you remember the connection. Yeah, but I wasn't. Not Stacey. I'm talking about Kamala Harris. She's one of Soros, the original Soros. Yeah, she's one of the Soros sisters. Because remember, she got Kim Fox and that whole legal witch COVID they have going there. Well, and I say that with all seriousness. Okay, stop. Great. You're absolutely right. Now, we know a lot of the Black Lives Matter funding, certainly for certain groups, is coming from open society. They are leading in this.

2:27:14 And it would only make sense for the delusional 85-year-old to say, hey, I want her. I want her. Maybe it was his choice. Hey, you want Black Lives Matter to continue? You want me to continue funding this? I need Kamala. It may have been George against Michael. You know what? I think that's highly likely. likely because when it boils down to it, when I'm just looking at between Kamala and Stacey Abrams, Stacey Abram is liked. She has the appearance. She has the look. I mean, when we talk about these things in politics, you know, she has that look, that feel of a real black woman. And Kamala Harris has the feel of, you know,

2:27:55 the pretty light-skinned girl. And that's, I mean, I know that's super, superficial. But that's what we do here. We talk about that shit. Right, right. Because it matters. I mean, it matters at the end of the day. Because some people say, you know what? It's just something about I don't like about her. You know what I'm saying? They won't verbalize it, but it's a real feeling. Okay. So last point on this for me. So not only do we have George, her being a George Soros favorite as a Soros sister district attorney, we finance her campaign, but she is also a favorite of Silicon Valley for a number of reasons.

2:28:35 I would say when she is talking to the political audience, she's probably, I come from people. But when she's over there in Silicon Valley, I have a feeling she might sometimes slip into a little bit of this with all the CEOs in Silicon Valley is an Indian cabal, probably from her cast. Yeah, and that's that's a quite valid point. And we know Silicon Valley is making a huge power play with the COVID and all with everything. Yeah, I mean, definitely with the COVID, I mean, with Bill Gates and all.

2:29:14 So I wouldn't put that behind her at all. And I would also put her on Team Obama. They were quite friendly when, you know, I mean, I think she was billed as the female Obama. Of course, yeah, definitely. We definitely have to keep an eye on how all this plays out. So I think we left off with Kamala's roots. Yep. So that's going to be a problem. You're going to give Trump that ammo against Biden in a debate? Well, wow. What debate? I haven't seen a debate yet.

2:29:49 We'll see the popcorn ready. Yeah. Yeah, I'm ready for it. If he ducks that debate, then it looks even worse on Joe Biden because now you did the tough talk. It's like when you call somebody out and then you don't show up behind the gym. Yeah. Well, you know, it could be a horrible thing that Joe just couldn't make it. And Kamala will step in. You know, that would be funny too. Nah, it ain't going to work. I just don't see a debate coming at all. They can't do it. I don't see. No, they can't, but I'm just saying that they'll lose a lot of votes in those still, the Rust Belt states. Oh, because you call somebody out and you don't show up.

CHAPTER 31 / 39 Discussion

Aaron Haynes and the 19th News Summit

Aaron Haynes of *The 19th* discusses Black women as the "backbone" of the Democratic Party and their role in the "resistance" since 2016. The hosts revisit a previous show where they analyzed Haynes's influence and her efforts to center Black women in political discourse. They note that she secured the first sit-down interview with Kamala Harris after the VP announcement.

aaron haynes· the 19th· hillary clinton· barack obama· resistance

2:30:30 You don't show up. That makes Joe look real bad to the demographic. He's trying to target there. So you sent me a clip on the 19th, the 19th. Yes, the 19th. Yes, this is. Okay. Yes. You want me to? This is Aaron Haynes. But no, but hold on. We've heard from Aaron Haynes before. I thought I recognized her. And when you sent me the clip, I was like, oh, this goes all the way back to show number two, claiming seats at the table.

2:31:09 So, ladies, I'm going to open up this conversation. It was probably about nine months ago that the country learned what the rest of us have long known, right? What we have been living, frankly, and that is that, you know, black women are really the center, the backbone of Democratic politics and the party's most loyal and really consistent voting block, right? But that wasn't just true last December. You know, black women were, frankly, part of, you know, what we like to call the resistance in 2016, showing up at the polls to overwhelmingly, you know, vote for Hillary Clinton. You know, black women were there in 2008 and 2012 when over 90% of us, you know, voted for Barack Obama.

2:31:49 You know, voting really for us has been a form of resistance for a really long time. And I think that that's something that the rest of the country has woken up to and the moment that we now find ourselves in. Yes, I want to play that. So she's been laying this thing out, you know what I'm saying, for over a year. I mean, this was show number two. And was that something? Was that from the 19th? Was that already the outfit she was doing? No, that was the summit that she had with the guy that says, we're taking down Jesus and MLK and I think it was JFK or MLK and JFK and putting up Beyonce and the female trio. Mm-hmm. So that was from that summit. So, like I said, this is show number two.

2:32:34 So, we've been on top of her all the time. And I didn't realize she had that much clout. Oh, you have no idea. You have no idea what kind of clout. I did not. I did not because for her, when you sent me that clip, I'm like, wow, she got the first sit-down interview with Kamala Harris. That's pretty big news. Yep. You want me to give you some background, or do you want to go to the next clip first? We can go right into number 28. You know, we've talked about the dual pandemics of coronavirus and systemic racism that have been roiling us for several months now.

CHAPTER 32 / 39 Discussion

The Build Back Better Plan and Domestic Workers

Kamala Harris discusses the "Build Back Better" plan, focusing on home health care and a "Bill of Rights" for domestic workers, who are predominantly women of color. The hosts notice that neither Harris nor Biden mentioned the "Lift Every Voice" act or the "Lyft Act" during this interview, despite previously using those titles to appeal to Black voters. They suggest the plans are being rebranded to suit different audiences.

build back better· domestic workers· tax credit· lift act· charlamagne tha god

2:33:10 I mean, it felt like the criteria changed so much for those of us on the outside looking in, kind of in terms of what Joe Biden might need as a campaigning and a governing partner should he win in November. I wonder if that changed what you thought that the case was for what you potentially brought to this ticket in this administration. Well, you know, I mean, the Biden-Harris agenda is a shared agenda. For example, one of the he, Joe had a whole plan that was, you know, his Build Back Better plan about the economy, but it includes understanding the connection between the creation of jobs and also bringing dignity and support to working

2:33:50 families, right? And so, for example, one of the parts of the Build Back Better plan is to bring health care and home health care to seniors and to people who need it. And then, but also make sure that caregivers are being paid a livable and a righteous wage and getting all the benefits in terms of workers' benefits. So, in that plan, he adopted the domestic workers' Bill of Rights, which is something I've been working on for a couple of years. And when we talk about domestic workers, be clear, we are talking about predominantly women of color. Hey, yeah. So, when I heard this, I was like,

2:34:36 okay. When she said Joe Biden's plan, I was waiting to hear Lift Every Voice. You talk to a black woman about how we're going to help black people. That goes to show you Lift Every Voice was bull crap because she didn't even reference it when you're talking to a black woman about what's going to benefit other black women. No mention of Lift Every Voice. Now, one step further, Kamala had the Lyft Act. Yes. Joe Biden has the Lift Every Voice. That's right. I remember. How long have they been in cahoots of running the plan? I mean, because I think he may have, I think this negotiation was done at a sealed deal

2:35:22 when she dropped out. Oh, I she probably. No, I would say it was before she dropped out. I would say when she dropped out, I mean, just from, I'm not disagreeing with you, but I would say at least when she dropped out. Because she says, Joe, well, you know, Joe, I could continue on to South Carolina on fumes and you won't win crap. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. Because if that brown woman goes to South Carolina, she takes a lot of votes away from not

2:36:03 Bernie Sanders, but Joe Biden. Yes. So Joe's like, what do you want? I'm doing nothing but speculation here. I'm just saying how the conversation, I see it going. She's like, well, Joe, you know, if I make it to South Carolina, I'm going to be a problem for you. And he's like, you know what? You might be right. And then she gives the Lyft Act to him. It becomes a Lift Every Voice because me and you, you even talked about like some of that, the housing practices is talked about all Americans and whatnot, specifically Black Americans. They had to say they had the same verbiage, but like I said, this is just weird. She had the Lyft Act and he had the Lift Every Voice Act. But neither one of those were mentioned. We were talking about what's going to help black people. It's the Build Back Better, whatever, the Build Back Better Plan.

2:36:47 I'm like, yeah, I don't know what the crap is. But when he talked to Charlamagne, he didn't mention that. He mentioned the trigger, the Lift Every Voice, which is the Negro national anthem. Basically, hijacked the title from that. Right. Well, that's what I'm saying. I'm just, yeah, that's how it is. So I'm just saying it's a lot of power going on with this newly formed demographic. And we have to start looking at black women as their own demographic. They're not lumped in with black men anymore. They made it quite clear, as you heard, none of nobody's mentioned anything for black men. They didn't say, well, can you give us a black vice president? I mean, because none of that. nothing. It's all women, women, women. So, but this is nothing new.

CHAPTER 33 / 39 Discussion

The 19th News and Billionaire Philanthropy

*The 19th*, a newly formed non-profit news organization, is revealed to be funded by major philanthropic entities including the Ford, Rockefeller, and Knight Foundations, as well as James and Catherine Murdoch. Despite having a small social media following, the outlet wields enough power to control the first major interview with Kamala Harris. The hosts critique the organization's "diversity" while noting its leadership is predominantly white.

the 19th· james murdoch· catherine murdoch· rockefeller foundation· ford foundation

2:37:29 Right. So, just about this, what I found surprising is that I was switching around yesterday doing my typical research prep, and all of a sudden, exclusive first interview with vice presidential pick Kamala Harris live. And I switch, and MSNBC switches two ways to the Zoom call webcast coming from the 19th. They ran it uninterrupted for a half hour during the regular, actually kind of getting on the primetime afternoon slot. They ran it for a half hour. It was not their people. It was not their quality. It was crappy. And they got the premiere. They got what?

2:38:14 So I had to go look, what is this 19th? Well, the 19th is... Is it CCC? Yes. I'm doing the Curry Cash Check. Curry Cash Check. Now they are a newly formed nonprofit, 501c3, in 2019. So they don't actually have to report their numbers until October. But they do have some information on their website. We're so grateful for our growing community. The 19th, thanks to our growing member community, included, and they have a whole bunch of donation numbers.

2:38:50 They have levels of donations. They have actually the lowest level they have is $999. And they actually do credits for everybody. I like that. But then you go up and I'm like, oh, here's $25,000 to $100,000. There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Is that nine names? $100,000 to $250,000. There's another 10 names there, including the Knight Foundation. Then you go up to $250,000 to $1 million. We've got Arnold Ventures and Craig Newmark. That's Craigslist. Ford Foundation, Pivotal Ventures, and then $1,000, a million dollar.

2:39:30 No, it gets better. A million dollars or more. We have three. So that's a million dollars or more in a year to this outfit, the 19th. Reproductive equity, which I haven't looked into. Oh, no, I'm sorry. This is why I hadn't looked at it. It's the Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors Collaborative. And top of the list, Quadrivium and Unite America. So you actually have to go to Unite America to Quadrivian first. Quadrivian, which is kind of a kooky liberal arts type name.

2:40:15 I kind of like it, but it's like you have the trivium and the quadrivium, and it's for, I don't know, it must be for intellectuals. This is pretty much a two-man outfit or one man, one woman. And this is James and Catherine Murdoch of the Murdoch family, of the Fox News family. Fox Murdoch. But no, it's not the Fox. James, you might have read last week, left the Fox board saying he was not on. This is the anti, this is the Trump hating Murdoch. And so they've put their money in.

2:40:58 And you just have to understand that this is really Catherine driving it, the wife. She served as director of strategy and communications for the Clinton Climate Initiative from 2006 to 2011. Then she was visiting fellow at Oxford University, Director of Resource, whatever that is. She convened scientists, academics, investment professionals, entrepreneurs to promote judicious uses of natural resources. And then came Quadrivian, Quadrivium. And they also have, and this is, I just emailed you this link. Unite America, which now this is Unite America is supported by a diverse staff and leadership team committed to bringing real change to our politics.

2:41:40 Can you click on that link I sent you just so you can see the picture of the team? Yeah. And tell me what you see. Top, it's the top of the page. Yeah, I see it. One black guy. Yes. In the mountains in the snow. This is their whole team. There's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 11 people who are also on that page down below. But they threw in a black guy. Just boom, he's just standing there. He's not even listed. We don't know who he is. He don't even look comfortable. He only looked comfortable. They threw on some weird outfit here, man. Wear this. They're a bunch of racist. racist hypocrites.

2:42:22 Anyway, this goes really deep. No, but no women of color. No women of color. No. How you like that? I know. So, I don't know what's going on, but that's a lot of money for a little outfit. Abigail Disney. I mean, there's Carnegie Corporation. It's unbelievable. This is huge. This is big, big, big money. So big, they had the power to control, to control the first introduction, the first, well, you can call it an interview. It was, if you were a tree, what kind of tree would you be? And these kinds of questions.

2:43:00 It was lame. It was journalistically embarrassing. But that's what this is big ass money that is behind this. And what shocked me was when I went to the YouTube channel to watch the video that you sent me, I think she had like 900 followers. I'm like, what? Exactly. That kind of juice. You can't only get what, 900 followers up. I mean, that goes to show you that the people are not with him. The people will never be with them because she's a terrible candidate. I'm not, I don't want to speak to about a person, but I'm just saying the job that you're trying to get her elected for. Okay, if you're talking about some kind of doing some kind of legal work or district attorney, that kind of thing, she had the MO for that.

2:43:45 But she doesn't have the personality or any underpinning or backing to be a good politician. At least Barack Obama had Chicago behind him. But all I'm saying is that this group that apparently is protecting the Biden-Harris ticket are so powerful that they can get an amateur woman from the 19th, which is really, because they are a media organization, the 19th. What they're saying is we do media and anyone can use it, reuse it. It's free for all, open.

2:44:29 But that's control, man. If you can control MSNBC to take that instead of being on the air with you, which for some reason they didn't want, that is media power that I have not seen. And that's the power black women wield. Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to knock it. I'm all impressed. I'm like, yeah. I'm impressed by it too because they knew what they were going to do. And George Floyd only strengthened their hand. You know, when they started making ask, it's like, yeah, now you're going to put who out there? And it's, yeah, I mean, that's their real power. But the problem that they have is

CHAPTER 34 / 39 Discussion

Kamala Harris on Reparations and the Lyft Act

In a past interview, Kamala Harris addresses reparations by pivoting to her "Lyft Act," which proposes tax credits for families making under $100,000. The hosts argue that this is a non-starter for those seeking direct reparations for slavery. They also note the historical connection between major foundations like Rockefeller and the funding of HBCUs and the Boule.

reparations· lyft act· jim crow· tax credit· hbcu

2:45:11 that nobody wants what they're selling. I mean, 900 followers on YouTube. That's crazy. That's crazy, though. That's nothing I know. Yeah. But we're not surprised by Kamala Harris not promising black people anything because she told us that before. Do you support reparations for black people? Well, listen, again, we had over 200 years of slavery. We had Jim Crow for almost a century. We had legalized discrimination and segregation, and now we have

2:45:51 segregation and discrimination that is not legal but still exists and is a barrier to progress. We have disparities around housing. We have disparities around education. We have disparities around income. And we have to recognize that everybody did not start out on an equal footing in this country. And in particular, black people have not. And so we have got to recognize that and do something about that and give folks a lift up. That's why, for example, I'm proposing the Lyft Act. Give people who are making $100,000 or less as a family a tax credit, which will benefit and uplift 60% of black families who are in poverty.

2:46:32 Yeah. Don't hold it. Hey, Mo, don't hold your breath. If you're waiting for somebody to do that. Is that your lip area voice actor? Is it just the regular lift act? I mean, you heard her say it yourself. Well, yeah, no, what's she saying? No! No! That was the beginning and ending of Kamala Harris. And that goes to show you, hey, Murdoch, you might want to get somebody got their, you know, their finger on the pulse of the people because we told you way long ago that she was a non-starter. Well, if you see the picture that I sent you with the team with the one black dude standing there looking all uncomfortable, that shows you that this is not.

2:47:14 literally says, Look at our integrated team. We're all about diversity. And they're all in Wyoming or wherever they have their beautiful houses. That's that kind of place in the mountains. And they flew in the black guy. Stand here for our diversity picture. These people are just virtue. These are the white guilt billionaires who really believe it. And I want to say this: the names that you threw out, the Carnegies and the Rockefellers. Big names, man. Those are the ones that started funding HBCUs and the Boulet to begin with. Yep. And so it just continues on. What I have not seen is a check from the Rockefeller Foundation for the MoFax with Adam Curry show.

CHAPTER 35 / 39 Discussion

Value-for-Value Donor Thank You and Mo Karma

The hosts thank their executive and associate producers for their financial support through the value-for-value model. They read letters from listeners who appreciate the show's critical thinking and historical context. The segment includes "Mo Karma" shout-outs and mentions of upcoming meetups in Pennsylvania, concluding with a call for continued support via mofundme.com.

value-for-value· malcolm x· mofundme· mofax· meetups

2:47:59 I have not. I have not. But I will say this: that we do have some great producers that do keep us well motivated and not only with money, but with more importantly, words to me. You know how I feel about cards. Indeed. And cards and letters. And as always, it's a good moment here as we're about to thank some of our executive and associate and producers. Is to let you know if you're new, especially what this show is really all about. First, the white man and the black man have to be able to sit down at the same table. The white man has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of that Negro. And the so-called Negro has to feel free to speak his mind without hurting the feelings of the white man.

2:48:44 Then they can bring the issues that are under the rug out on top of the table and take an intelligent approach to get the problems solved. That's the only way that they'll ever do it. That seems to be working for us. We're moving ahead. We're making it happen. I'm feeling good. Here's how it works. The value for value systems, really simple. If you listen to this show any moment in time, you think this is valuable to me, just put a number on it. Was it the amount of time you spent? Was it the actual value of the information? You know, a diamond can be very valuable versus a different kind of rock. But if you went to the movies, first of all, it would have been an epic movie if you were there this long. What would you have spent for that going on a date? Is that the same value for this show? It doesn't matter.

2:49:29 Whatever it is, it could be nothing. We're fine with it. But we do appreciate the people who get so much value that they come into the donation pool with Mr. and Mrs. Klaber with $500 to start us off today. This is incredibly generous. And they say this donation pales in comparison to the value you've provided to myself and my husband. I'm sending a separate email your way as well. Our deepest appreciation for what you do and the work you put in here. So here's the, and this is from, I don't have her name, only her husband's name. So Mr. and Mrs. Klaber. I just want to thank you for your time, knowledge, perspective, and the work you put in into on MoFax.

2:50:12 To say that you are positively influencing people would be a vast understatement. Teaching people to think critically for themselves is profoundly empowering and particularly important with all that's going on in the world right now. It's like we've been noticing nudges, but didn't have the history behind it to really get the context. I'll ring the bell for that. If content is queen, context is king. Holler to the healthy patriarchy, by the way. Yeah, holler indeed. We're both working through the course catalog and look forward to each new week. An updated Rona one on its way, perhaps. Perhaps. We have to see how the news cycle goes. There haven't been much information on the Rona.

2:50:51 Wait a minute. Lately, aren't you in the vaccine trial? That was going to be part of the potluck, but I just ran out of table. Because they had a black lady out pushing, you know, a couple of black doctors pushing that black people need to be part of the study. Oh, yeah. I'm like, I'm good. I'm good on that. Well, also good is Samantha Henry, who came in with $152. I'm sorry. But one second, it's Katie, and I want to say that I'm so happy. Oh, Katie Cleveland. Yes. But I want to say that I'm so happy that our top two donors are females.

2:51:37 We're winning ground. This is, as we've already established, this is a combat podcast. And I'd say this is a win. Samantha says, Dear Mo and Adam, thanks for hashtag doing the work. As an educator at a liberal school in Los Angeles, there's a limited list of ideas I'm allowed to consider when addressing race relations in America. I am told to listen, but I am often told who I should listen to and how I should listen. Listening to MoFax gives me back the freedom. freedom of thought that I so desperately miss. I appreciate and value your podcast more than this crummy note on PayPal Can Express.

2:52:17 Thank you, Samantha. And you know, you could always just tell the kids, mofax.com, and see if they pick up on it. It's just a thought. Thank you very much. It's very kind of you. And you, of course, are. And no note is crummy. No, zero notes are crummy. Absolutely. Michael Abbey, $126.43. Damn it, man. Had to stop listening to concentrate on driving. You're pulling back the curtain on today's and their parents who raised them, to be fair. Extreme narcissists was spot on and should make the rest of us do a little soul searching as well, to be honest. Absolutely on point and should be required listening across the board. Not even halfway through this episode and must donate.

2:53:01 Keep it up. Oh, I suppose, Mo. Oh, I suppose you too, Adam. What's the podcast equivalent of the straight man? Mad Mike? Oh, that's Mad Mike. His name is Mad Mike. Yes. Yeah. I'm not sure. I don't know either. We've got to think about that. Karen Van Haitsma, I think I recognize it as a Dutch name, so I may be pronouncing it incorrectly. Karen Van Haitsma, maybe. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, my favorite number. Started listening at episode number 39. I've been trying to catch up ever since. I appreciate all the work you put into making this show. Thank you so much. I'm always amazed by the content.

2:53:43 Me too, Karen. And there's another. We've got our own Karen. And by the way, Karen, I'm sorry. It must really suck to be Karen right now. As an Adam, I can tell you. Weird names can be problematic for yourself. Then we have 101 from Brock Reinhold. Did not send the note, but it is incredibly appreciated. Jimmy James comes in. I'm sorry. Yes, Jimmy James comes in with 100. Getting deployed, leaving my wife and newborn at home has me back to my noid state. I'm actually wanting to do that. Yeah, I'll cut that out. Okay.

2:54:27 New money, Hyundai, for my brothers from other mothers to continue doing the work. Well, there you go. That's a bumper sticker. We need this more now than ever, it seems, but maybe this is what we always needed, and the times have nothing to do with it. Either way, thank you. We can get through this if we just keep on swimming, y'all. Thanks, Jimmy. The McClurken Company. Interesting, $100. I get more value per minute from this show than any other, and I appreciate the education, insight, and entertainment. I'm now going back and listening to the old shows. Love it. Keep it up. I'd love a Mo Karma if you don't mind. Hashtag giveBlacks Guns, GBG. You bet. Here's your Mo Karma. You've got.

2:55:07 Mo Karma? Yowza. We go into Larry Hay, also $100 as I ponder the world we live in, Larry says, and try to make, says, and try to make sense of all of it through the eyes of a muggle who is limited to only getting news and commentary from the M5M. I'm extremely grateful for the work you do to educate and inform those of us who are Moak. Oh, that's a good one. Mo Woke is Moak. Hashtag Moak. I think we got to use this. Mo, that's a good one. I like it. I like Moak. I like it too. As a No Agenda producer using this platform to teach my children to question everything and critical thinking skills once taught in public education, words cannot express the value you've provided to

2:55:52 my soul the last year. Mo. I look forward to the next year of content and in particular the election cycle already underway. Keep up the fantastic work. Looking forward to someday attending a MoFax meetup. Love and light, Sir Haymoose of the Piedmont Province. There is actually a Mofax meetup. Did you know that? No, I did not know that. I think it's a No Agenda/slash Mofax meetup, but hold on, let me just see, No Agenda. Because I saw it the other day come in. I was like, hold on a second. Meetups.com. Let me see if it's on. It should be on. It's coming up, I thought this month. Hold on. It is, in fact.

2:56:41 Here we go. Bridgeport, Pennsylvania. Oh, I'm sorry. We missed it. It was on Thursday. So maybe we'll get a note. Can we get a report? Bridgeport, Pennsylvania. The Mofax-No Agenda Meetup. Yeah, we definitely need a report from that. Looking forward to it. All right. And thank you very much. Who was this? This was Larry. I believe. Yes. Sir Haymoose. Sir Haymoose. Ah, there we go. Then we have McCullen. Moen, $72. Mo and Adam, tell him to go to Winnipeg's McLuhan, M-C-L-U-H-A-N on YouTube and subscribe.

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3:00:09 You've got Mo Karma. A little real estate investment for building the house that Mo put on the ground. John Taylor, $44. JB, no note, but $40. It's appreciated. Connor Lawrence says, love and light in the morning, gents. It's been a few weeks. Please D-Deadbeat me. We do need a sound effect for that. I feel like this is my mistake. I completely neglected to come up with that. But maybe we'll have one of our producers do that. Thank you both for continuing to be the shining light of race relations in the U.S. Can I get some of that sweet, sweet goat Woosa and a Mo Karma? Oh, yeah, of course you can.

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3:01:36 I would benefit from and appreciate a larger breakdown of who he was and what he was getting at. As far as I can tell, he spoke the truth and didn't care about the fallout. We've done a lot of MOK in the show. I mean, of Malcolm X. Do you see any deeper dive on that, Moe? He always comes up in the conversation appropriately. Yeah, eventually, but I think he. he's one of those characters like you have to lay out his viewpoints as they correspond to the show. I agree. It's very, yeah. That's probably true for a lot of people. Jake continues: the point about being from the Ozarks that there are a ton of poor white people with a victim mentality here.

3:02:18 They look to blame as much as they can and take very little responsibility for themselves and their own lives. But when politicians come around and say conservative, conservative, conservative, they jump in line to vote. I bet that's true. I bet that's true. You bet. That's fascinating. That's fascinating. No, these things work that way. Yeah, somehow it doesn't surprise me. Thank you, Jake. Alejandro Ado Ser, up to 20 show 24 and counting since my Ronamo donation a couple of weeks ago. Can't thank you two enough for this amazing content. We thank you for supporting Alejandro. Torben Peterson, no note, but we appreciate it. And there she is. Jane Dennifer with 3333. Thank you as always for outstanding shows.

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3:03:48 So that actually would put Clinton up in the associate executive producer. Oh, no, just short of it. Just short of it. Just short of it. Well, that's probably intentionally. We appreciate both. And Clinton says thanks for fascinating analysis and about Loki and the M-world word builder. Clearly enjoyed 45 Savage. Robert Recchia, 2505. Gregory Seymour, 2033. Just appreciation, Gregory says. Bob Klein with $20. My brothers, you rock, you rule, rap, jazz. And actually, this is folk music. And actually, this is folk music. It is not. Off the cuff from the heart, not trying to fit in anywhere.

3:04:31 Telling the people the news transformed into art. Keep it up. I'm telling everyone about you. I'd love if Mo would head over into the area of vaccination, which harms black kids at a higher rate than white kids. And that says a whole lot right there. The cultural impact of science and the deception of fake science. Yes, Bob. Mo and I, we were just talking about that. That's right. Oh, we have to get it to the black people first and the old people. It's great. These guys are so sick. Thank you, Bob. $20 from Susan. She loves the show. Thank you. Scott Holmes Improvements. No note, but $20. Shonda C. Orr, $15 and no note.

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3:05:52 Okay. Don't worry, Mo. I'll school you on Malcolm X. Just stick with me. Please do. Could you bring more Malcolm X to the table? See, I'm accelerating. I'm doing the homework, doing extra work. I'm doing so much work. All the work. James Gundy, $10. Derek Flanagan, $10. Hector Minnakata, $5. Michael Kilgas, $5. And Terry Keller, $4.11. Thank you all so much. It is highly appreciated. And especially the value you're bringing makes us only want to do better for you and bring more value. And a lot of the feedback, the notes, it is incredibly important. And we've got a P.O. box coming soon, too. So you can actually send some handwritten stuff, which is a lost art, but well worth it.

CHAPTER 36 / 39 Discussion

Donny Deutsch and the Gender War Narrative

Donny Deutsch describes the 2016 election as a "gender war," claiming that Donald Trump's behavior during debates galvanized women to revolt. The hosts discuss whether the "Karen" phenomenon is a byproduct of this gender war rather than a purely racial one. They suggest that people often identify more strongly with their gender than their race when feeling threatened.

donny deutsch· nicole wallace· gender war· hillary clinton· 2016 debate

3:06:37 If you'd like to support the show, please go to mofax.com. If you'd like to go directly to the donation page, it's mofundme.com, M-O-F-U-N-D-M-E dot com. And we'll be happy to thank you and read whatever. whatever you've got to say on the next Mo Facts with Adam Curry. And again, thank you very much for supporting the show. All right. So since you said we're the war report, let's get right into Danny Deutsch then, the throwback clip. Donald Trump was the aggressor, was taking it to her, but he lost the debate. Let me tell you all the way through. It's very simple. This is no longer about politics. This is gender war.

3:07:20 Okay. This is, I've spent thousands of hours in women focus groups. And the Friday thing. How did you sneak at this? Listen, guys, that's not important. No, no, no. I don't know. The Friday thing of we don't have to redo it, of grabbing a woman's judge. Every woman in America was listening. You were dismissing, was lensing that through last night. As he was lurking behind, as Nicole Wallace said, I would have called 911 as he was telling he's going to jail her. Women in America are going to stand up and revolt. It's always been about the women, and there will be more to come. And the words didn't mean anything. Every woman in America who has ever been held down, oppressed, harassed, there is something in them.

3:08:03 There's a nerve that is hit that so transcends everything else. And if you're not seeing that, you're missing them. By the way, that's not the point that men objectify women. We don't know it. It's what they heard and saw. Yeah, was this about the debate with Trump and Hillary? Yeah, that's when he was walking behind her and drinking the water. Kind of funny. We talked about 45 Savage when he was basically trolling her. Yeah, big time. But a couple points I want to make here before we get into the next clip is: could that sentiment that he just shared be the driving force of Karens? Because, like he said, like they're not going to take it anymore. They're going to call the cops and that kind of thing.

3:08:48 Because the most famous, the most famous of all Karens, the lady in New York, she was a Hillary supporter. So, I mean, like, are we, are we witnessing, is the Karen really a byproduct of the gender war more than of the race war? Huh. That's a good question. Well, yeah, actually, yeah, yes. That is, well, it started with, although it was taken to race right away, it was started, it started with a woman feeling threatened by a man. If we can just leave the color of their skin out of it for two seconds. Right, right. That's the next point. That's how it started.

3:09:28 Yeah. So in that regard, yeah, absolutely. And that could have been, yeah, that could be it. And another point I want to make is: I think when we all boil down to it, we identify with our gender more than our race. So, I mean, you're going to have this war fought on more fronts on the gender front than the racial front. So I just wanted to lay that out there. Yes. If we weren't so racist, that's what it would be. Yeah, we're just busy being racist to think about gender. Oh, boy. That's going to, well, that's going to end the population if we go to a full-fledged gender war. So we might want to count our blessings at least. But look,

CHAPTER 37 / 39 Discussion

White Male Fragility and the Attack on Patriarchy

Karen Hunter argues that Donald Trump tapped into "white male fragility" and that this same sentiment resonates with some Black men. The hosts counter that there is a systematic media attack on men and fathers, citing sitcoms like *Black-ish* where dads are portrayed as incompetent. They defend the role of the "healthy patriarchy" and the importance of stay-at-home mothers.

karen hunter· white male fragility· patriarchy· blackish· stay-at-home moms

3:10:13 all I know is you didn't have a fifth kid. You got a dog. So I'm just saying, you know. That's about the point. But I did get a black dog. Okay, there you go. He's tricolor, Moe. What are you talking about? He's not. Let's do the paper bag test on your dog. So with this gender war, I was watching Karen Hunter clips going through looking for Kamala Harris stuff. And then she makes this revelation that you're going to hear in 32. And it's wonderful. I believe that the 2016 blip that people think is an anomaly is not an anomaly at all.

3:10:57 I think what Trump tapped into is something very powerful. He tapped into white male fragility and the notion of losing the power that you talked about, the very power that you talked about, the power structure is crumbling. And Trump was speaking to that and made them feel like men, made them feel strong and powerful. That same drumbeat resonated with black men. Yep. So when we talked about, because I was looking at numbers, today is the anniversary of Barack Obama being elected to president, the first black president of the United States. Y'all do it as you may. This is a fact. When I looked at his exit numbers, 95 plus percent black people voted for him, men and women. With Trump, 15% of black men actually pulled a lever for Trump. I think it's going to be the same.

3:11:39 And it's that Kanye group. It's that group that just the guy just called up, that they feel not powerful anymore, that the world is shifting. There's all of these different things going on. We got they's and thems now. I don't know. know what to do with that. We got women out there talking about they don't need us. We got this and this and that. And Trump is going to walk up the elevator with his wife behind him, not in front of him. He's not going to, he's going to have the umbrella over him, not her. He calls women bitches. He tells them he can grab them by the pussy. He does all of the things that a lot of men just maybe they don't do it, but they like that somebody can and be president. Right. Wow. Wow. Where do we start? Well, as a man, we're men here, so I will start by saying,

3:12:23 and particularly in this case, I get to say, particularly as a white man, for the past decade, you have portrayed me, people who look like me, as a doofus, a dumbo in every commercial or television show. We're always dumb. Oh, I'm sorry. We're always the brunt of the joke and idiots. It's okay. I can take it. But then you come around and say the problem is racism and it's just dudes doing it. It's the white patriarchy, not feeling the love very much. Does it have to do with all the gender stuff? For some guys, maybe. But I don't think it's that. I think that there's a systematic attack against men in general.

3:13:05 And as this show has revealed, not just an attack, but an abuse of black men. And then she goes on to say that we can't be smart enough. And this goes back to what we've talked about the whole show. We're not smart enough to put our own thoughts together to come up to this point of you know what? We might need to preserve the patriarchy, especially like you said, because in every show I watch is targeted towards my kids. The husband and the dad is the youngest person in the show. Trey, Trey, how many times I have to tell you? That's blackish. That's that's right, right? The mom kicking the dad's ass because he's dumb.

3:13:48 And I'm even saying the ones targeted toward the kids. The parents are the most two dumbest people, but the dad is far dumber than the mom. I mean, so that's the generational war right there. And then she says that due to by you know, we're living vicariously through Donald Trump. Now, I did say Donald Trump did give his men their nuts back. And what I'm saying by that is you pushed us into a corner of being scared to even speak. I mean, at some point, men were even scared to even say anything. And then you have this guy come along and say what he feels, whether you agree with it or not.

3:14:29 It's like, I identify as a man first. And if you want me to give that up, if you want me to make that decision, you won't like the answer. And I've said that before. So here we are. And what does she do right away? Shut up, Kanye. You're stupid. Take his mic away. And then she goes on to say, Dad, it's that Kanye group. So that's why I wanted to bring a full circle to show. I love the Kanye group. I feel I'm in the group. I'm finally in the group. Yeah, because Kanye's a white man. Of course he would. He's a man. I'm in the group because he's a man, but yeah. No, no, I'm saying, but that's what they said. That Kanye's a white man because he identified because he's thinking and then,

3:15:12 but they lumped us all together. I made reference to this. I'm going to have to bring that article here and break it down one day, eventually. But black men are the white people of black people. You put us in that box all because we want to be fathers and husbands and head of the household and be protectors and all those things. But you just want us to shut up and get in the corner. And it's like, no, it don't work that way. Now, can I ask you this is an important question. What I am concerned about is, especially with this and Karen Hunter, we'll just call her black. I don't know what her age are, it doesn't matter in this case. I'm very concerned that

3:15:54 the wedge that black women are driving between black men and black women can have long-term, very destructive effects. But that's the point. I know, but they're the minority. They're the minority that like doing the tight end. But look, I won't. No, no, no. You understand this? Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. Well, I'm just trying to say, do black, can black men not say this to their spouses? Can they not say this? Honey, shut up. It's not the point of that. What it is, is that it's the loudest people are the minority, just like the people out in the streets protested or the minority.

3:16:36 Just like it's the loud minority. I'm sorry. I let myself pulled in by the mainstream media for a second. You're right. No, no, but as we, as we. we have this conversation here, but what we were just talking about before, our top two producers are women. Yes, thank you. Yep. So that goes, I mean, I looked at the list and I've looked, I wanted to bring this up, but when you look down our list, it's about 50-50. If I had to roughly just look at it, I mean, on a week-to-week basis, we have a large representation because a lot of women are like, you know what? We like having husbands. Yeah. We like having somebody protect us.

3:17:15 And they feel guilty for loving their husbands. I feel more sorry for them than I do for even myself. Because you know what? I'm going to believe what I want to believe. But when you ostracize a woman for saying, oh, yeah, you just want to be a stay-at-home mom. And I'll say this: the only demographic, the second demographic at the black men that are beat up on are stay-at-home moms, no matter the race. Yes, true. They're completely treated like idiots. I don't appreciate it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Even some moms even say, like, they'll be embarrassed to say that they're stay-at-home moms. But these are the women that do the most important job in the world. Yeah. It's raising the next generation.

3:18:00 But they're made to feel embarrassed, just like black men are made to feel embarrassed to be, you know, the leader of their house. To exist. No, we can exist. We can exist as long as we shut up. Hey, put the ball gag. Exist quietly. Exist quietly. Damn, man. Yeah, so you can see what she's saying here. And you wonder why Trump resonates with these people. It's because it's, you know, it's a guy that actually says what he feels, and he's above cancel culture. And right behind him is Kanye. Yep. So, yeah, guys, do

CHAPTER 38 / 39 Discussion

Toxic Masculinity and What Black Men Want

Karen Hunter critiques "toxic masculinity" in the Black and brown communities, while the hosts argue that Black men simply want the same stability as white men: a home in the suburbs, cars, and the ability to provide for their families. They suggest that the Democratic Party's failure to respect Black men as providers is driving them toward Trump's more aggressive, masculine rhetoric.

toxic masculinity· bigotry· rust belt· suburban life· disney world

3:18:43 resonate with these two figures. But she continues on in the next clip. It resonates with them. And I was thinking it still does. That portion's not going away. As a matter of fact, I think he might have galvanized more. I think he's going to get a lot of black men voting for him. I don't know about more. I don't think any, I don't think he's done anything to impress anybody who wasn't already with him. But I agree that there's going to be, it's the same with the Hispanic foot, right? There's going to be a cadre of people, of black and brown people, who go in for the aggressive, toxic masculinity that Trump brings to bear. There's going to be a cadre of black and brown people who go in for the bigotry. I mean, like, we can talk amongst friends here.

3:19:25 There's a lot of bigotry in our community. There's a lot of people who are black people who are from this country being bigoted towards immigrants. There's a lot of black people who are not from this country who are bigoted towards other African Americans. He was always going to be able to tap into the worst in our community in the same way that he is able to tap into the worst that is in America. Trump speaks for the worst people. Nobody's talking to black men. 8668-018255. Not a single one of these can. Everyone's over-indexing on black women. You're not going to win against Trump just talking to black women. You're not going to win against Trump

3:20:09 not engaging in talking to black men. And I'm saying this because I don't hear anybody talking to black men. Period. And the only voice that actually resonates with black men is Donald Trump. Who was saying this? Was this Karen? Karen Hunter. Wow. Finally. Hello. What is what we've been saying for a year now? What happened to her? All of a sudden, what? She got some sense in her mind. Or is she just throwing out the she's Paul Revere? No, what she, she, this is the fault, Karen. She gets it. She used to have a thing called the Lincoln Party that she wanted to start. That her and Stephen A.

3:20:49 Smith would talk about all black people need to vote Republican for one term to let people know our voting power and all that. But she gets caught up in the wokeness. Yeah. Yeah. She gets caught up in the wokeness, but now she has a finally mathematics kick in and say, you know what? Y'all are pretty much maxed out on the women's side. I mean, you're doing 85-90% turnout. Pushing. Now you got to do some other work. Right. So what about bringing the black men on board, building a coalition between those two, and then you'll have a politically viable actually, black men's position is more powerful than black women right now.

3:21:27 And this is I know I went on and went on and on about how powerful the black women are, which it is because you've seen that they've gotten a VP candidate. But you know what? As long as black men sit on their heads, their hands and say we're waiting on the tangibles, the Democrats are going to continue to lose and lose and lose and lose. And eventually, eventually, they'll be bent to our will or just lose. I don't care. I really don't care at this point. Just regarding Kanye. Wusah. Woos. Yeah. Hold on. Where'd my Wussa go? For some reason, I lost the Woosa. You need one real bad.

3:22:10 I'm a baby boomer. I don't know what that was about. As a white man, and I think, and I know there are several white men who feel very comfortable saying, I'm going to vote for Kanye. I'm going to write him in because it's a, it's in a weird way, Mo, it's safe. It's super safe. Yeah. Because you're not voting for Trump. You get a bonus card because, you know, it's not a Democrat. You voted. You voted. And you kind of, you kind of feel good, like, well, it's probably going to help Trump, or at least it's not going to help Biden.

3:22:50 It's a very, very, it's too bad because if people really just get off their high horse and their wokeness, it's a really fascinating election. This is a three, three-horse race now. And we, and we know what, we, we know what the, the one with the three legs is going to be limping along, but it's in the race. And that, and that just always changes the odds. It always does. But no, he just got a bitch and moan about everything. But that was pretty good. I'm impressed by Karen. OG, Karen. She came back for a second. Yeah. And like I said, she gets it. She looks at the numbers.

3:23:29 It's like black male voter, I mean, turnout itself is way down. Yeah. I mean, when you start, and then you give 15% over to Trump, where the Republicans are only going to normally get 5%. That's a 300% uptick. That's noticeable. I don't care how you try to marginalize. It's only 15%, but no, from 5 to 15, it's huge. And that's why Trump is like, you know, they'll vote 80%. He's trolling, of course, but he said they'll vote for me 80% because he knows that black men are tired. We're so tired of

3:24:07 not being respected. Yeah. When we do the right things, I mean, you lump us in, you say we're helpless. Oh, we got to go protect black men from the police. I mean, like I said, police violence is a problem. And it's not really the murders, it's the constant terrorism. But I would say this: stop dinking around with our houses and saying we can raise our kids. Right? You know what I'm saying? You built this system. We didn't build this. And I'm looking at you, Democrats. So we're not that complex. I mean, we're not that complex in the sense of what we want.

3:24:47 And I found this clip from show number six that kind of just tells you what black men want. Now we have a lot of people making plenty of money and lonely. They place money before a family. You see, black men want to do what white men do: buy their family a house in the suburbs, two cars, and once a year go down to Orlando for Disney World vacation. And when black men can't do that, they don't feel they're worthy enough to stay. That's right. That's all we want. It's not that hard.

CHAPTER 39 / 39 Discussion

Angela Stanton-King and the Restoration of the Family

Angela Stanton-King, a Congressional candidate in Georgia and goddaughter of Alveda King, is highlighted as a powerful new ally for the conservative movement. During an appearance on *The Breakfast Club*, she argued against the "feminization" of Black boys and the prevalence of abortion in Black neighborhoods. The hosts praise her genuine "street cred" and her focus on restoring the Black family unit.

angela stanton-king· alveda king· breakfast club· charlamagne tha god· georgia

3:25:24 It's not that hard. But then you call me the white people of black people because I want to be part of society and provide for my family. I mean, it's disgusting. But I will say this. I will say this. Out of all the darkness. No, wait. We're going to end it on a high note. Whoa, I was out of all the darkness. No, no, no, no, no. An ally has arisen from the darkness. Oh, no. Who could this be? Her name is Angela Stanton. And God bless her. For me personally, I'm a conservative because I don't believe in handouts.

3:26:07 I believe in hand ups. When we talk about the Democratic Party, it's a large work that focuses on welfare, right? People only need welfare for a certain amount of time. We don't need to become lifelong welfare recipients. I'm also not. We lost you. There we go. I'm sorry. I'm also not a Democrat because of abortion. This is my thing. Roe v. Wade was passed off of a lie. As of right now, where we are, we're always. always crying about being an oppressed minority, but we are always going to be an oppressed minority if we continue to abort our offspring. Abortion is the biggest genocide against Black America. They strategically place their abortion clinics in our neighborhoods.

3:26:51 And every time you just about every time you hear a Democratic candidate go on stage, the first thing they say is black women need access to abortion. It's actually health care. It's called healthcare. Yeah, no, I hear you. That's the point. She won't use the talking points. And so Angela Stanton, she's running for Congress in Georgia, right? I think she's a very interesting lady. Now, she's a goddaughter of King. Alvita. Alvita King. Alvita. Yeah, Alvina King, yes. And she was in jail. She was in the city.

3:27:32 Go ahead. Her bio is amazing. She was in jail. She was pardoned by Donald Trump. They came at her with the LGBT attacks, but she has a gay son. She got a card. She got her abortion. She got a card. She got a card. She's anti-abortion, but she's had an abortion in the past. It's like everyone. Every card. Right. So everything they try to put on her. She was on welfare, but she said welfare made her lazy. And only she only thrive once they took her off of welfare. She's about a man being in the house. She talks about no man in the house. And she has street credibility. Trump has some very interesting people starting to back him.

3:28:15 It's not your normal run-in-the-mill conservatives. Like, oh, you know, I mean, I know that's stereotypical, but I did it anyway. But, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's the, you know, it's the stereotypical conservative in a black person's mind, so-called black person's mind, as a black person that wants to be white. She is the furthest thing from that. She speaks the language. She, you know, that swag they talk about the Barack Obama had? She has that. So when you talk about giving a black woman, you know what I'm saying, you know, the platform to take up for a black man and black family and black children and point out the masculation of black males, be it boys.

3:29:02 I mean, she doesn't really care about men. She said they're grown men. They do what they want to do. But she's talking about the young boys. This was on Breakfast Club. I was just about to ask what this came from. This is very. I don't know why they brought it. But this leads more to my Charlamagne the God being a double Asian or something. Why would he bring her on there? And she cut through them like a hot knife through butter. It was three-on-one. Charlamagne even had to. Did Charlamagne maybe not expect that? Did he not? I don't know what he expected, but she mowed him down and all the comments were giving her all her props.

3:29:43 It was amazing. And then one thing I couldn't clip because they were over talking each other. But Charlamagne's co-host, DJ Envy, she was listening to all the things Trump doing. She said he did opportunity zones. And DJ Envy said, opportunity zones are not for black people. You remember Charlamagne. Yeah, yeah. You remember Charlamagne was all about the opportunity zones with the Nipsey Hustle and the show that we did on the Opportunity Zone. He had to sit there. We met. That's how we met initially because of part of that, I guess. Yeah. Yeah, the research you did on that, on the Nipsey Hustle research, but he couldn't say anything.

3:30:23 I was like, I was like, God, that's so beautiful. And I even retweeted it. And actually, that's one of my highest retweets right now is the support of her. She has my full support. I mean, she doesn't have my vote, but she has my full support of giving her, like we talked about with Kanye, the uninterrupted space to speak. I like her. And so she has a picture of her on her Wikipedia page where she looks like she, you know, she's all dressed up in some traditional garb. Yeah, the Kentake Off. Yeah, I call her. Yeah, I call that tradition. That's Nancy Pelosi garb, which she's dressed up in.

3:31:06 But you look at her campaign website, StantonKingForCongress.com. She looks badass, man. Holy crap. Crap. She changed. She looks feminine. She looks incredibly feminine, but she looks like she has a look in her eye with huge fake eyelashes, which I'd like to. That's the point. I will kick your ass. And she got little tattoos. She got prison tattoos. She's great. Look at her. She is to be honest with you, outside of Kanye. I think she may be one of Trump's biggest assets going into this election. Especially if she gets, if she gets any, picks up any steam and she can talk the lingo to black women saying, hey, you could be feminine.

3:31:55 You could be strong too. You know what I'm saying? You don't have to emasculate a black man to be strong. Or you don't have to emasculate a man, period, to be a strong woman. I mean, we both have different jobs or roles to play. But yeah, she's all about it. And I guess we'll wrap up with this last clip. We could talk about afterwards, but this is her rhythm for black men. How does it benefit black America? Y'all talking about restoring, right? Black America, restoring our lives, restoring our economy, restoring our families. How does it even benefit Black America to encourage our men to become women?

3:32:33 Because first of all, if anybody understands the strategies of war, if they're trying to take out a colony of people, the first thing they do is remove the man. So as a woman, first of all, I need my man. I need my black man. You know, I need you to be a man. I need you to lead. I don't need you to be competition. I don't need you to feel like you're a woman or feel like you are me because I don't have to give my crown away. So no, I don't support feminizing, especially not our boys. But if you're an old man and you want to make a decision that that's what you want to do, that's what you want to do. But I don't have to support it. And I don't. And tell me, how does it benefit us?

3:33:15 Okay. I like her. That is great. No wonder she, no wonder she got the LGBTQ all over her for saying that. Damn. But how can she? How can she when she has a son in the community and she has an aunt and other family members? It's a brain freeze. It's great. And her kid was born in jail. Her kid was born in jail. Yes. That's the best part. All the boxes. Oh, my God. You can't hit her with the diamond and silk attacks or that kind of thing because if she's like, I've lived that life, I went to jail doing illegal stuff and I can come back and tell you it's not beneficial.

3:33:59 That lifestyle is not beneficial and everything that comes with it with the removal of the men and the emasculation of the men. It was. You ready for it? You ready for it, Mo? Kanye King 2024. What a ticket that would be. That would be fantastic. That would really be keep your eye out on her. Keep your eye out on her because she's genuine. She has the same thing that Kanye and Trump have go for him. They're genuine. Isn't it interesting? They might be genuinely flawed, but they're genuine. So interesting. I didn't even know about her. I appreciate this. This is great. She is, you're right.

3:34:44 There's not just a silver lining. There's a sun coming up behind the cloud. Wow. Excellent. Excellent, Mo. So this was probably our longest episode, but of course, we're making up for two. Yes. So there's that. And it was a great potluck. I enjoy these immensely. Thank you so much, Mo. I had a good time. You know, I got to do a little bit in the prep of this one, which was fun. Yep. And thank you for Angela Stanton King. Finally, I have someone to send my $100 to. I only do one a year. Sister, sister, sister. Sister, sister, sister. I saved some Soros Cash from Texas. Wow, that's great.

3:35:29 Very cool. And as I always say, Adam, if you pay attention to everything, the truth will reveal itself. And we will do that for everybody once again on Saturday. We promise to make good on as much as we can make good on Mo. Thanks again so much, man. Have fun. All right, Adam. See you next week. Yep. Have fun with kid number five. All right. Everybody will see you then. Check us out. Mofacts.com. Bye-bye. all had to use a mister

3:36:32 Talking about you It all depends on what you do It ain't too bad to weigh you indeed Cause I sure am you letting you to do the thing you do I had to do the thing you do the thing you do