Topic: Nuclear Testing

A news clip featuring CIA Director George Tenet is played, followed by a report on the agency's failure to predict India's nuclear tests. The hosts criticize the $27 billion spy budget for over-relying on hardware and satellites rather than human intelligence.

A caller describes a secret 12-story underground facility operated by Rocketdyne and Boeing in Simi Valley, California. The caller alleges that the facility is conducting clandestine nuclear engine tests under the guise of energy research, citing information from an Air Force general.