Ron Avery Presents Joyce Riley And Dave VonKleist And Many More Patriots(Silver Eagle Taphouse 1999) [97gmfoxpdUk]

00:00 Look who we got here. Somebody that we haven't seen in about 20 years is... Hello there! How are you? Late and great, late and great George Humphrey. Oh my goodness I see who it is yes tell us what you've been up to oh my goodness isn't this a great day yeah amazing tell us why you're here hurry cuz of my Facebook my heart is heavy for for the world, but my heart is also happy for the good people here. We need to get back to work and we need to realize that this cure it's not a cure it's not about a virus its about political control and we are free in sovereign and we have the choice either be slaves or to be free I choose to be free yes Well guess what I did? I bought about $20,000 worth of

00:52 editing equipment and hired some people to put all the tapes on for the last 25 years, and you're on there. So I want you...and I got...I'm gonna plug my YouTube channel. Okay great! Mike Hanson Archives, Hansen Archives, and Waco Archives. I didn't recognize you at this start!! Okay so i need you to say This is George Humphrey and I love Mike Hanson Archives. This is George Humphrey and this guy is awesome, Mike Hanson the Mike Hansen archives check it out! You're on there we just put about three tapes of you on there and you had slick black hair then. Now it's all dyed! Alright, God bless y'all we'll see you in a minute Hello folks this is Jeff Davis with the legendary Jeff Davis show from Central Texas USA and I love my cans at archives peace out baby

01:50 This is Desi Moriah Andrews and I love Hanson Archives and Waco Archive on YouTube. And Mike Hanson Archives! And Mark Hansen Archives, he forgot to tell me that. Oh yeah, and I love Desi Andrews. of Mike Hanson Archives. I'm going to do a song that has become somewhat of a theme song in one of the local cable access shows. Got it by Monday. They need some footage for it, so I'm going to do it for them! This song is dedicated to anybody out there who fits the shoe if you know what

02:42 Many people asking questions, many people asking why. Many people paying attention There are many now who see the big light There are many folks who want to get busy And your greatest fears they'll organize You'll notice that it's starting to happen. You betrayed their trust, they now realize The line's been crossed in the sand and the fire has been fanned All of people demand to hear the pop that you crammed! Being trusted It's too late for you tell us your sorry You passed that boy a long time ago Cause perhaps

03:47 Is the only thing that you seem to know. But the truth is under my new foundation. There's so many people down in the middle You thought that you'd see the day, but you could just get away From the ones who betray, who raise their voices to say Be trusted anymore So you want to find out what's going on in the world, huh? Well turn on the television and turn into NBC News. News you can trust...Nah!

04:43 You see Dan Rather? Well guess what, I'd rather not. See turn it down a little and go to ABC News because more Americans get their news from ABC News than any other news station right? No wonder we're in such trouble in this country! If you want to hear the truth... Turn into cable access!! We can't wait for you to start to get honest. that the things you did can be done to you. We can't wait to see the table is turning, forcing you to see the things that you've done! We can't wait for you to face the music understanding there's no place to run See your faces turn white as people unite Watch the roaches take flight as you turn on the light

05:54 You know what? Yeah. I've been reading about DARPA. When he said he had a video on DARPA, I said no. He didn't understand this stuff. You do? Yeah, I got more accounts. What kind of meeting was that in Austin? It was just socialite type of thing for lawyers and doctors. The Israeli ambassador... what was it called?...a terrorist! The Israeli ambassador was supposed to be there

06:39 Wow. Patrick Eddington, do you know who Patrick Eddington is? He's the guy that supposedly escaped from the CIA and is telling the truth about Gulf War illness. He was on my radio the other day saying Bush Riley is a right-wing radical Militia fringe element who gets her support from Aryan nations. Can you believe that? They'll say anything won't they Patriots and silver eagle oh, yes sir. Oh you're not one of those right-wing groups said George Brownie's talking about I know well We're in the center. I call myself a sinner. Right dead in the center of the United States. Well, Rick Kyle do you think he can get us one of those homemade beers he got? Well we don't make them home made but we mix them. Mix a couple imports for ya. What is this button that you have on there? Can I get a shot of that?

07:36 Getting out of the UN and rather than dissolving our own nation, dissolve the UN which would make sense to me. He is some kind of radical isn't he? Excuse me, I try not to think. I don't like the way it smells but so far its looking pretty good. Good deal What is this here? The Republic of Texas

08:13 Again. Once they institute that new religion of where all of them get together... Close to war, New World Maps! Everybody join in giving me that New World Religion. No! Hurt me Dave I love it Well I managed to get Jeff Davis down here with me. You're gonna, this is a new song! Oh yeah! Hey can you put your other song on? What's her other song name? Are you done with that have you finished that one? Of course if the wind would blow you'd see this is the old style flag with the stars in a circle There's Jeff Davis now coming up Where they at Jeff Davis This must be some kind of militia assault vehicle here Do ya think this is a militia assault vehicle over here

09:27 That looks like a malicious assault vehicle. Gulf War Illness, American Gulf War Veterans Association. Where'd the rest of them go? Freedom and Liberty! Desert Storms, flags for the Persian Gulf war

10:42 That's good to stay busy that way we all have lots to do It's a never-ending what's the what's the price of Liberty eternal vigilance it'll never stop and I hope it doesn't because then we will be subjected to tyranny. Not as long as you got people like me here Yes sir I may die a trial but so be it Let's hope it doesn't come today I hope not Nice place, this is the backside It goes down through the river right there There's little trail that goes down It's really nice out here Silver Eagle Tap House There's some of the river and park Little island cause there's a creek right below us There's the river

11:45 There goes a boat on the river and of course can't quite see the red van in there, but it's there. Right now this Russian deal Everything here is on tap? This is our lovely and gracious bartender here at the Cerro Eagle. Ma'am, how many different kinds of beers do you have on tap here? 30 different beers on tap Is this a beer drinkers paradise? Under George Washington's

12:34 And all the great Patriots and we tried to show they have oh Well, you know they're good look here anyone with a new American right here on the desk. You know is a great America Oh Yes, ma'am? When you ask too many women each one of these caps has a different card in relation to the Constitution and what it's supposed to say as opposed to what they're doing now. And everybody who drinks all 30 of these beers they each get one card and then after they complete all 30 beers They have the opportunity to get a T-shirt which is diploma for graduating from Silver Eagle Topics

13:16 30 beers? How many days? You're not supposed to drink them all in one night. Okay, okay I was about to say we uh... Yeah you're not supposed to drink them all in one night! We've actually had our first lady complete all thirty beers Wow how many men have done it? None Not yet anyway Well Recon are ya back there? Thank you Ma'am Wow, this place is... Here's a map of United Nations Heritage and Biosphere Programs. All kinds of little news articles I mean this is great It's worth it folks to drive down here to McQueenie just to get you one of the 30 beers Over there

14:23 The midnight ride of Paul Revere Alexander Hamilton down here on the bottom. Elect Washington entering New York City He is welcomed. Just against U-Inn George Washington painted by Charles Wilson Pearl 1772? I know this works. This space blanket sandwiched between two layers of cotton ripstock will not allow the heat transmission for you to clear

15:21 Talking about how to disrupt your flair, something all Americans need to know. A cartoon of the day. Virginia Declaration of Rights. Like a little five and drum music. Chapter of the Republic of Texas 1837 The building became the Capital Hotel in 1839. They got a firearm in here, being a licensed firearm holder. How can I carry that? More than 51% of his business comes from alcohol. Of course they've got a much different reception on their homecoming than we did and that's quite alright

16:17 I'm still quite proud of them. On the bottom it says, only in America can a homeless vet sleep in a cardboard box? It says, the pleasure of doing business is Vietnam are about to evolve around this spot My son was killed in Vietnam One guy said to me could you believe anything like this was possible? Yeah You've succeeded in what you want to do here. You marketed this war as a technological war, but you're denying these guys their due right of heroism. It's incumbent upon you to release these pictures. David Turnley, the Joint Information Bureau, Baha'i Reign Saudi Arabia

17:18 This is war. Fat cats eat, poor folk get buried. Back in POWs in Korea still no answers. Some sad things here fearful silence. Help Specialist Michael New support the Red, White and Blue. The auction dog, Toccatina Ruby Red, Reichstag 98, the American Holocaust.

18:18 Title 18, no trespass sign. The mark of the New World Order and of course this has got to be a Bible. I'm sure it is! Oh yes! Very old Bible College and Army Gunnery School.

19:01 Man doesn't like David Ross or Dave Riddell. How do I do it sir? They shall mount up with wings as eagles, Isaiah 40 31. That's 1635. My old lady right there. And Galen Ross is about to have a little pool match. I bet Galen Ross has shot quite a few world over. Call the shot, Galen! Call the shot huh? I don't believe my old lady playing pool with Galen Ross

19:52 world-renowned Game and Ralph international man of the world speculation is that David Rockefeller will eventually, within the next three or four months tell Clinton to check it out hang up his hat and our goal move up And then under the 12th, 25th Amendment Constitution Gore will then name the next vice president. And it's my speculation that'll be Newt Gingrich and an excuse will be we need a bipartisan control in order to save this country. Then they'll indict Gore

20:40 He'll have to step down, Newt will move up and declare martial law and then become de facto dictator of the American Union. Well we've heard some terrible things about Al Gore from uh who was that we heard that from? That he's a third degree mason and all that kind of stuff And that he was going to serve 10 years as president. No, it won't happen that way. Newt Gingrich will be the next dictator? He will be the dictator. Oh Lord! Of course he's a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Yes sir we've seen that from your information you provided United States citizens

21:21 That's my speculation. Yes, sir! I appreciate your information too. What? I don't want to be on TV. Dave right there is Jeff Davis and of course there is Chris. Money clip holds everything left after taxes imposed by the Democrats and Republicans. Paperclip with a one penny in it! American Reform Party, that's not rock pro is it? No, I got rid of Ross Perot. Yeah, you know a lot of people figured he was just part of the whole scam Yeah, you think so too, huh? Okay Well we say some party Operator radio chaos talk about a pig Pig or what folks

22:21 He didn't even save any beer. He got himself two plates because one wasn't enough for his lovely wife. Yeah right, you just couldn't get it all on one plate! Well we're glad you made it. The party's going to start a little while when my hormonal is still up. Girl man eat two places. She drank with two bugs another two plater Yeah, come on We're in the crowd here now

23:10 Mike Hanson Freedom Report Well did y'all get to hear Radio Keyhouse South on your way down here? Did it sound okay? It's a little weak. You're on the freeway, huh? I got a Humvee. Come on! Be it told me or does it all mean what we have on anybody's 40th birthday is... Whatever we've got, happy birthday to you.

24:07 My name is Mike Hood and I'm very unique to this crowd because I served in the Gulf in 1988, then went back in 1993. So everybody who doesn't know anything about Gulf War Illness...I put a little thing out on the internet from Dr. Christine Gosden and we were part of that group in 88 when Saddam bombed the Kurds So they're messed up, we're messed up and the VA keep thinking oh it's in your head. Do whatever you can and just keep trucking because I don't take no for an answer. And I want to commend Mike too. Mike came down from the VA, he came down from the Houston VA to be treated We were going down there with Steven Welch here, we were visiting these people He is lab rat number

25:05 So what we found was that these people were becoming nothing but experimental guinea pigs at the VA system in Houston, which is a tertiary treatment facility for the Persian Gulf Registry. Yes? Also if anybody reads Dr. Haley's reports of analysis I'm also part of that secondary North Texas team to Dr. Haley studies DOD just spent $55,000 per person. Also we went to several town hall meetings We confronted Dr. Rosker about the money they're spending and just... The last issue of Army Times or Army Daily Times

25:56 DOD attacked Dr. Haley's credibility after they paid him. Wow, well I want to say that I commend all of you who are taking a stand on this issue because we're going to get help and treatment and America is going to know the truth. And I left out one very important group of people and that is who served in Vietnam in this group? Let's hear it for the people serving in Vietnam! Absolutely, absolutely. And I want to tell you I have a New Age & Orange report that has been classified and I'm going to make it freely available to all of you. I don't have enough copies here but it's time that we get this information out, and I am going to reveal what is says so I am very pleased that your all here today thank you let give the vets another round of applause. Hi I'm Carl Gonzales I serve in the 2nd battalion 5th cavalry 1st cavalry division I was stationed in Saudi for a year on the first tour 6 months on the second tour no problems

26:56 I never go to the VA and have no plans of coming in with a VA. Wow, anybody here that feels they got a bad deal from the VA at Vietnam War? Anybody think that you've had... Can we play all these first? I want to ask a quick question about the Gulf War Vets once again raise your hand if you see the Gulf War Veterans I'm going to prove something. Go for bears, come front and center here. Hang on! I want to go step outside. Hold on. Those of you who have been in the military or the Gopher Bears... We were not present. ...in Texas and now we don't know how many there are.

27:40 5 million, 6 million fibromyalgia sufferers last year and that's doubled. They're now 12 million. Something is spreading through the general population How many of you all were told to change or alter your testimony or not talk about Gulf War illness? Where any of you? Where were you told Michael? How long have we been open? About a little over year and half. A little over year and half? Yeah Well I hope you do real good! Thank you sir What's your name by the way? I'm Pokey, they call me Jimmy Ritter, they called me Slow Pokey. Slow Pokey? I drove a truck down in Austin You did?! I got a little micro SM. Station to get on stuff? Yes, 20 watts

28:29 I mean Keith Perry right here, he's got about 90 watts. We're on the same station. Really? I just wrote a telephone line in between us. Well, the question is that if a man were to say threaten to commit suicide and suffer from multiple personality disorders. Is that a hot seat situation? You're always good for a good one. The question is why don't they make mouse flavored cat food? Okay, we'll remember that.

29:27 I just wanted to help. She's very well in discussion. When we were out fighting for the payoff, Bob just keeps it there And she also said, a new finding of the Prozac is that people who take Prozac come to feel possessed of the devil. We don't know why they're ending up committing suicide So we are going to put a package together of documents Do you want one of these post-its? Of the documents together Yeah and we'll divide it into two Okay so

30:22 and one last... I hope we haven't had a little discussion for awhile. It's pretty crowded. Okay, now here is the biggie for the uh this is $300 value. Silver Eagle Tap House This is a gold necklace. Okay, so with that in mind I'm going to take this and get it all done. And I am going to show you a few things on your different tracks right here. I want to show you... We live in the Republic of the United States of America. And he is the law! And death is the new world order. He's the law! No watch out! I just wanted to show you a little bit of information here if possible we can do the auction now.

31:17 15 minutes. Again, I want to say to everybody that we joined the military for the right reasons We did not join for any ulterior motives Obviously the pay is not the best in the world We joined investigation And thats why Im here because I see you men that served in the Gulf War and I say to you I know you're not. We are going to get this issue out so that once and for all...

32:15 This man is recording history. It is history! I'm gonna get my camera like that as soon as I get the battery charged up. Ha ha ha ha! Hello! You win something at the raffle? Yeah. Watch this! Going twice... I'd love to be in the movies. Yeah, we're gonna put you on TV. I'd love to be in it. I'll put you on 10,000 movies. Okay do that. Ha ha ha ha ha. Hi Mom!

33:02 Come on. Come on, Mike. You better go with me. Come on, Bessie Mallory! Right there! Thanks, baby! I understand!

34:04 Oh, you're fixing to run out of battery. It says EF. Yeah, we don't have enough charge. That means mine's on EF! Where is the in and out button? Right up here. Up here. Right here where I'm at? Yes see... Oh okay okay And it's automatic focus right? Uh, I got it on manual because whenever your on automatic... I can do it cause I'm steady. I'm steady. Let me get a new battery. Come on work good I'm Steve Lane with the Freedom Report and I am standing here with Jim Welch of the American Reform Party, formerly of the

34:50 Well, I guess it never actually quite got formed while you were there. But the proposed reform party... Actually the reform party was formed. I simply was never a part of it. I broke away from the parole movement in 95'. Exactly, exactly so but we want our We're down here at The Silver Eagle Tap House tonight We're at a fundraiser for Gulf War vets that Captain Joyce Riley is putting on it Our producer Mike Hanson met up with Mr. Welch and in the context of the conversation that they had discovered that you have quite a bit of information about how that kind of the The background that a lot of our viewers don't know that goes on in politics And we'd like you to tell us a little bit about this tonight, and you can just start wherever wherever you'd like well It was in

35:36 late November or early December of 94, we were contacted by a gentleman named Bill Walker who was head of United Way Stand America for Texas. and a man named Paul Truax, who is now by the way one of the big wheels with the Reform Party. And just to make sure everybody remembers United We Stand America was an organization... Was it actually started by Ross Perot or did people that were supporting Ross Perot start it? It was started by Ross Perot got behind him and supported him in 92. And not really intended to be a third party, but just kind of an organized group to do what exactly? To work for reform in American politics as an education group to alert the voters and give them knowledge about what was going on within the political spectrum

36:27 We were contacted and at that time there was going to be held in each state, in United We Stand America across the country. That spring would be a meeting, a state meeting and at that meeting would be a discussion of the question about is a new political party good for America? Ross had always said it's got to be good for the country in order for it to actually come about So he wanted to pose that question in all the states across the country. Is a new political party good for America? Well, that meeting did occur in all the states except in Texas and in Texas we had different marching orders We had the proposition that not only is a new political party good for America but it is necessary that we speedily form one so we put on...we scheduled the meeting to be held in Houston for the state meeting

37:19 It was quite successful. The conclusion was, yes indeed we do need a new party and beginning in December we met with the idea of putting on this meeting in the spring but simultaneously I was given the chairmanship of a committee whose job it was to develop two things. One, a proposed set of bylaws that could be presented for a new political party and secondly, a proposed platform for that political party The committee met weekly beginning in December during the holidays even

37:59 and carried on until late spring when we were notified that the national meeting which had been scheduled for August of 95, and at that meeting was going to be the discussion raised about about fielding a political party in America. I think it's probably important to know too, that I've had some experience with kind of organizing groups and whatnot and this was these weekly meetings you're talking about...I'm sure these weren't any walk in the parks. There is probably some pretty intense wrangling going on to come up to get some agreement on bylaws or what not? Is that correct? Yeah absolutely! We wanted to form a party that was completely different than the Republicans and Democrats we wanted to be able to disperse power out

38:40 into the states and into the people away from centralization of power. And that's what our bylaws would have done You mean something like the Constitution? Yes I just thought it was important to bring up a point about how hard it was to do because of what you're going to bring up next We worked very diligently to develop these bylaws and to develop a proposed platform The platform we worked on consumed...we had the bylaws completed, sent out to Dallas for their consideration. They did not choose our bylaws, by the way. It actually in my opinion gave too much power out to the people. Now when you say they can you explain that a little bit further? Who do you mean by they? The people who eventually formed the Reform Party Ross Perot Russ Bernie and the group that put together the reform party itself They did not take our bylaws. They developed an entirely different set of bylaws

39:32 The platform we worked on was quite good. It was very well received We did focus groups, we talked to people, put it out and talked the ideas out And it was very well received across the spectrum In fact that platform is here in this pamphlet now called The American Reform Party of Texas Has the platform that we discussed and put forth in it When we worked on developing this The idea was it was going to be presented in August at the national meeting where all of United We Stand America would come together in Dallas at a big hoopla and, at that point we would field and create a new party. By late spring early summer May late June the word came down from Dallas that this was not going to occur instead of the discussion being a creation of a new party

40:28 Mr. Perot had changed his mind and what we were going to do was to allow the Democrats and Republicans, the same people who had created this terrible assault on our Republic were gonna come to us and speak to us lay out their agenda of continuing the same thing they've been up too So there was an awful lot of us that were very upset They told us that if we could disband our committee We could forget about working on the platform Instead of doing that though, our committee continued to meet because we wanted to finish the platform. We thought we had a very good work in progress and we went ahead and approached it from the standpoint of not only did we want to finish the platform but we had a plan to actually usurp the control of the party. Mr. Perot always said that

41:14 The United We Stand organization was run by the people. He does what the members want him to do. Yeah, I was going to say that I had received literature back at that time from United we stand and in fact i'm trying to remember if I'd actually joined or quite possibly had sent some money but I remember reading those types of things in the literature so I know exactly what you're talking about. Ross said he was going to do with the member's wanted We had contact and had located each individual leader of each congressional district throughout the United States. So we have put forth a plan for our committee

41:54 to send out this proposed platform along with a request that we really do not want to listen to the Democrats and Republicans. These are the people who caused the problem, these are the people who have usurped power of the Constitution these are the people who have damaged our Republic and it's foolish to think they're going to surrender the powers that they had usurped is not gonna happen right but by this point I mean their actions have spoken far louder than any words there gonna say at this meeting They're not gonna give up any power exactly So realizing that, we wanted to continue to create the new party. We thought what we would do is send out the platform to all of the members and leaders in each congressional district ask them in turn to pass it down to the members and ask that the members sign a proxy vote giving us the power over their vote at this convention

42:43 So therefore when we went into the convention, we would go in with tens of thousands of votes from members who were in favor creating this new political party. Therefore we would have more votes there than what was there at the convention and could therefore demand that we kick the Republicans and Democrats out of the convention And let's go about creating this party." And of course all what you're talking about is To my knowledge, and if memory serves me correct none of this made it to the mainstream press in any way shape or form did it? No. There was some that was brought out and I'll update you on that in a minute What happened is that when contacting the leaders across America The word got back to Dallas what our plans were They had a fit So we got visited by Paul Truax and Bill Walker

43:36 pleading for us not to do this, not to embarrass Ross about a floor fight at the convention. That we should go meekly and go ahead and along with it listen to him but on Sunday there would be a workshop And at that workshop, we would be able to introduce our platform and introduce our resolution to create a new party. That we would be allowed to do on Sunday and then put this forth So in order not to hurt Mr. Perot or embarrass him We agreed to do it Not realizing how terribly sneaky and underhanded the people were dealing with What happened is that come the hoopla in Dallas in August of 1995

44:18 We went there, we listened to all the cockamamie stories from the Republicans and Democrats. The only one that brought the house down was Pat Buchanan he did bring the house down got more applause than Ross Perot did And on Sunday, come Sunday we were all prepared to present our platform and present our resolution. We went into the workshop now at this workshop here sits Ross Perot's son-in-law the lawyer Russ Verney his right hand and the other people in there that weren't even expecting They in turn shut us down and would not allow us to enter it to do this. They changed the rules at the last moment, prevented us and said no you can't introduce your resolution You can't discuss the platform. You're shut down

45:06 We told them that you promised us that we could. You either keep your word or you're a liar! There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it." They refused to allow us to do it at that meeting my wife walked up ripped her off for United We Stand America badge threw it at Russ Verney and told him what he she thought of him At that point, we all walked out into the hall and there was national media out there that had seen this exhibition that had gone on. Where we'd been hustled, we've been lied to and we've been conned So at that point We discussed with them out there what I'm telling you It really didn't matter everybody in the print nobody really cared But if that meeting was when a lot of people lost the faith That these people are going to treat anybody fairly Since then The Reform Party formed

45:53 And there's been a lot of dissension. There has been breakaway groups over the terrible amount of, abnormally amount of control that Dallas puts forth on people is what usually is the complaint most people tell us and there was group of representatives from 23 states that met last October 3rd 4th and 5th in Schaumburg Illinois and at that convention formed The American Reform Party And at that place we put together and we came about to form a party that is truly a party of the people. And basically, you used all the hard work and effort that you had put forth into forming the original Reform Party... That was the groundwork for the original Reform Party? That was the groundwork and you just went ahead and went forward with that? That's correct I see

46:44 What I think is interesting about this, and I don't know if this may just be a conjecture on your part. Do you have any idea of what was going on behind the scenes? Perhaps why you were lied to? Do you think there was some sort of back dealing going on? Some specifics or at this point... Are you still just bewildered? I'll be honest with ya, I don't know why or what happened or when. There's no way...I don't like to take guesses. Right. I can only tell you what happened us we were definitely lied too. Blatantly lied too! Why they did it, God only knows. One of the questions I had was would you say from the beginning there was a disconnect between Perot and the couple people that surrounded him? You've got to go back to 1992 when Perot is running on his first trip to the election.

47:37 I was actively involved in that. My wife and I devoted an umpteen amount of time to developing petitions, we worked directly for him, we believed in him What happened, and it was reported in the newspaper so I'm not telling you something that hasn't already been reported but supposedly Perot Systems had not gotten a contract in quite some time. Then about a year and half went by if my memory serves me right And at that time A Swiss banking concern either merged with Perot Systems or bought Perot Systems and they gave Perot Systems

48:15 the contract to handle the computer work or whatever they do for the banking concerns in Switzerland. So at that point, Perot Systems got bailed out of the strait that they were in and got very flush again with money I know that happened. And Perot Systems if memory serves me correct this is a company he formed after he sold EDS or Electronic Data Systems? That's correct. Perot Systems was formed by Mr. Perot after EDS. That was the first, if I remember correctly... The very first. Like he borrowed money from his wife if I remember was the story and that's what made him rich? That's correct. But the banking concern that got involved with Perot Systems, I don't know for sure of their connection They're either owned by them or merged with them but Perot Systems then got very flush

49:08 Since then, there's a lady who has become very prominent within the Reform Party movement with Mr. Perot and her name is Lenora Fellani. And Mrs. Fellani is a self-avowed socialist. You know what though? This sounds horrible, but I'd rather have an honest socialist that's in your face about it than one of these quiet ones that'll be sneaky and underhanded. And act like they believe in the American Constitution or whatnot when in fact they believe in socialism or communism. Well you talk about believing in the constitution... Mr. Perot is the owner, as he showed on television of one of the original copies of The Magna Carta. Which is a wonderful piece of really giving people liberty for the first time in England. That one thing that turned an awful lot of us off Mr. Perot was when he made a statement about they were talking about crime and guns and Dallas and drugs

50:10 suggesting that they should cordon off sections of Dallas and conduct door-to-door searches for guns and drugs. Do you remember where this comment was made? Was it made kind of in private meetings or more of a open forum? It was made in public, but this comment shows an absolute utter disregard for the Bill of Rights, the Fourth Amendment, the right to be secure in your papers at house and search In the Second Amendment, no laws regarding your right to keep and bear arms. It causes a lot of people a lot of concern

50:48 anytime you hear anyone talking about doing door-to-door searches in court. It's one of those things that makes people feel good in the moment because you think, wow this would end it and it might end crime in those areas as we know but when you really think about what are the long term effects of it? And that is why its such a dangerous game to play. I'll tell ya this, George Washington when his farewell addressed he warned us these things And what Mr. Washington said, he said that if in the opinion of the people the distribution or modification of the constitutional powers be in any particular wrong let it be corrected by an amendment in the way that the Constitution designates but let there be no change by usurpation for through this in one instance may be the instrument of good

51:35 It is a customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed. That's an important point, and I think it's also important to make too that a lot of people don't know it...I have a friend who had gone down to the UT Law Library and researched all the transcripts of the first Congress And I think its very interesting to note that at least our first Senators & Representatives envisioned The way they envisioned guns was similar to what we see in Switzerland today. In that they envisioned there would be firearms in every household, and this is a matter of public record anybody can go down and view this at the UT Law Library or any law library I imagine

52:11 and they envisioned firearms being in every household, and that there wouldn't be a standing army. That would make them essentially impervious from attack And it kept them from being a police-type nation going all over the world like Britain had done at the time Going all over the world and being the worlds policeman They didn't want to have anything to do with that And they thought nowadays if you talk about guns your a kook If you read these transcripts, it's fascinating because it is actually the opposite. They think you're a little weird or a little kooky if you don't like firearms and you don't want them In fact Thomas Paine in one of his writings said some men have a strange aversion to arms That's what he said So those man can put forth money for our cause Our cause for freedom was what he was talking about I just think its really interesting when we go back to original documents like that It's a whole different way of thinking than what we see today

53:03 Washington, if you'll remember initiated and got passed the Militia Act of 1791. Are you aware that? No I wasn't Look that up It's an interesting piece legislation it stayed on the books until the first part of this century And it required, required the head of every household to maintain the best military rifles today and ammunition in his home. Exactly! And that's what I was talking about with that first congressional record they real- That is what these senators and representatives wanted Now I haven't gone far enough back to look at the founding fathers in their personal writings But like I said that first congressional record anybody can go down and read it That's what they thought of it Yeah, I had a fella that he was uh...that I know

53:43 He doesn't have any arms in his home and was opposed to it. And he asked me, says it doesn't bother you if a neighbor of yours has a high-capacity semi automatic rifle at his home? I said sir, It would not bother me if my next door neighbor had an Abrams parked in his garage Because I know my next-door neighbor is a law abiding citizen. Exactly What would bother me worse is for to have a lawbreaker, a criminal armed with machete where they butchered hundreds in Africa recently with machetes Any weapon is bad if it's used by bad people so if the bad people are going to have these things

54:25 We need to put them in jail for breaking our laws, but the good people it doesn't matter what you own I don't think you would commit a crime if you owned a fully automatic machine gun. I don't care what you have right So it doesn't bother me. But what does bother me are people who try to legislate or take away the inalienable rights of man, and those inalienable rights include the right to life liberty and the pursuit happiness and they reclude the right for the individual to keep and bear arms for self-defense And I like what you said about that because that is uh What what people would say is a right given to you by your creator not given to you by a document? These are be the Constitution the Constitution Constitution

55:08 does not grant any rights, it only guarantees or acknowledges the existence of a right. Well listen I appreciate you talking to us tonight and i hope to see ya in the future. Thank-you very much. Thanks alot. Appreciate it. We're talking about micros here. I wasn't reading about that! Yeah, we got a problem Jimmy he's a richer Well you know what I was thinking? What about putting one on the trailer? Freedom in the trailer park

55:50 I need the specs. No, I don't mean that. I mean put it on a trailer like a 5 bay trailer or something. Put one in and yeah you drive around to different places and then they never compare where you are. Well yes, there's your antenna high enough. Do a variety of work this old camera like i said has been from Mount Enterprise East Texas to Presidio down near El Paso So it's seen all kind of things. Make sure you hit Brian. Yeah, well the other uh... You're adapting him as a Gulf War vet and you're gonna help him out with... Well I'm trying to we need to get Joyce up here so we can find out what steps to take Well she will be there. This man is going to volunteer To do medical tests for this Gulf war veteran

56:41 Can you believe that folks is that American or what? I agree to the government schools now my girls walk sometimes But one is our fault with Houston independent school district, I'm not a special building in Houston we talk to Josh from all of Richmond Avenue because I went there and raised hell about it. And the cuts were at the school, they put two heads in my cuts because she was going to slip in those two famous books. Heather has two mommies! Heather has two buddies and Teddy's roommate. And I went out to mobilize the parents immediately, we went into a shared decision-making committee meeting... You know what we don't care about is that homosexuals in our schools! Mr. Ritter what are you doing? And I said I'm telling you how it's going to be as a parent they're not gonna teach my kids that stuff. Let's move along with speaking parents! Good! Fight!

57:39 I mean, that makes sense. His best friend and his wife he was in the army with this guy and his wife homeschools our kids they're like 12 and 7 or something like that And those kids do great! We were there! Those kids learn You know that the Texas Education Agency just got themselves a new policy thing put in this year, that for their kids in public school they will no longer be taught American history that goes beyond 1900. That's true. Now I'm talking to another girl for a minute. What do you want me to say? I want you to meet my bro man

58:26 Steve, this is a Gulf War Marine. Yeah another grunt! He was in three firefights. That's about three more than anybody in the right mind would care to be here. 29 years old and suffering from arthritis? Come on. Oh Lord I should have. I am riding out my health insurance. Dr. Cykling? That's helping you out, Dr. Cykling! Is that available for an individual like myself? You can go to a private physician and tell them if they need it or not. Would they give it to another family member? They gave me 120 days of trial. Now, If they gave me 120 days of trial, then I could order with no wire frame.

59:19 I had no worries because at Christmas last year, my kids were so busy. They were out back for three days and in bed. And we had so much fun. The beer was great to play with them, and everything else was just so much more than anything. We're looking at this Gulf War Veterans album.

1:00:04 That's right. I don't know if you can see any of this, folks. Then we went up to the Tigers and Fradies and this was it. We were late the 82nd 101st Airborne Division. We went to the town of Earl Abrahams. It was kind of dark but our chaplain took us in. This is an airfield with Russian MIGs strategically displaced 25 of them all direct hits. Wow! These are the camels. And there's the, it's not an EPW camp but it was where we had herds and would feed them. Give them medical. Dr. George Riley, I mean Captain George Riley has always been in this area. You know Luxenburg is only about that big. So they called it the white ghost. It'd just show up if you were ready to get on the train.

1:01:04 We weren't supposed to win until May 15th or so. We were the only ones ready for this plane show. We got home early. I don't know how good a shot I'm getting them, but I would like to show Wally World and all there to uh, it's a place, little R&R place kinda like China Beach was for us although I imagine it ain't quite as much fun. Yeah, Perry A Water huh? This is where the Kurds were held. Where the Kurds were held? Right. Lot of prisoners there's an old caterpillar off road dump truck. Cattles

1:01:59 like a PC 113 he's got hold of I think is what T72 or destroyed T-72 right that's a t-72 is it? That what it looked like. So was this one. Them uranium enriched shells did a hell of a job huh? This is the T68 down here at the bottom Uranium enriched shells did a hell of a job on it too. Alright, I'll get a live version of it. What's this over here sir?

1:02:46 Just the building. Just run the old building, looks like something you might see down at Presidio. That big 17? A Russian big S. There were 45 of them on that airfield and all was wrecked hit. That shit worked! Looks like some AA artillery. I don't know whether y'all can see this but I can say folks, do what I can Look at this. There's the Kuwait, I mean the desert star picture right here