Sunday, 15 February 2026

Raw Footage 1999 Of Patriots Rebuilding Church For Survivors [KJmVLHSo11o]

A group of patriots returns to the ruins of Mount Carmel to unearth government munitions and construct a new church in memory of the fallen.

By Mike Hanson Archives | 1h 55m listen | 16 chapters
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About this episode

Mike Hanson and a dedicated group of volunteers excavate the former Mount Carmel Center in Waco, Texas, to recover artifacts from the 1993 siege. The team unearths government grenade fragments, tear gas rounds, and .50 caliber ammunition while simultaneously constructing a new sanctuary on the historic site. This effort to rebuild serves as a physical memorial to the children lost during the federal raid, including eight-year-old Cyrus and teenagers Sherry and Michelle.

Workers coordinate the installation of siding and windows on the second floor while discussing witness accounts of the initial helicopter assault. One volunteer describes seeing a V-formation of helicopters firing directly into David Koresh's bedroom, a detail allegedly suppressed by mainstream media. The site remains a hub of activity as George provides hardware for security doors and Steve prepares for stair construction. Amidst the labor, the group reviews footage from McNulty that purportedly shows the origin of the fire that destroyed the original compound.

The atmosphere at the construction site shifts between technical building logistics and personal reflections on justice. Alex Jones and other participants navigate the challenges of the project, including a recent van accident involving construction materials. Between sightings of Sandhill Cranes and debates over Iraq's reconstruction, the volunteers remain focused on finishing the interior trim and wheelchair ramps to complete the sanctuary.


CHAPTER 01 / 16 Discussion

Waco Mount Carmel Center Rubble Excavation and Historical Artifacts

Mike Hanson and a group of volunteers excavate the rubble at the former Mount Carmel Center in Waco, Texas, during the construction of a new sanctuary. The team recovers household items, government grenade fragments, tear gas rounds, and .50 caliber ammunition from the site. A volunteer named Glenn discovers a propellant base from a round, which is discussed in Tommy Cook's online chat room.

waco· mount carmel center· mike hanson· glenn· tommy cook

00:00 I love Mike Hanson Archives. We're out here, it's week 17 and i'm digging around out here in some of the rubble piles we've been digging up household implements knives forks scissors batteries, and a lot of fragments from government grenades and tear gas rounds. We've also been finding a lot of different .50 cal rounds, .223 round for conventional firearms really interesting and historical It's too bad the feds came out here and scraped away most topsoil

00:39 took the pieces of the storm shelter, the storage area inside where they killed children with a shape charge and shipped it off to a landfill outside Waco and covered it up with concrete. We're trying to dig up what we can out here while we are constructing new sanctuary. Very historical and its great to be apart of it. Came out here and were just looking around at that pile of rubble by the driveway I was getting a cup of coffee and he found it. He said this is the base of the round, and this is what's left of the propellant right here. And he said that's flammable. He really didn't say a whole lot about it to me but he got on Tommy's website in the chat room

01:31 told Tommy Cook a whole bunch of stuff about it. And, uh... Tommy's here maybe you can talk to him in a little bit and he can tell you what Glenn had said. Okay thanks Scott! Yeah, I'm thinking that's 32 and a half.

CHAPTER 02 / 16 Discussion

Construction Progress and Siding Installation at the New Sanctuary

Workers and volunteers coordinate the installation of siding and windows on the second floor of a new church building. The group discusses technical aspects of the build, including the use of nail guns, 2x4 lumber, and the placement of small pieces to catch the front of the structure. One individual mentions running for office against current incumbents during a break in the labor.

construction· siding· sanctuary· carpentry· building project

04:07 Great! I know, I've already been talking. Oh well that helps

06:02 A lot of work to get that ready. Hey! Why? Turn around and say hi! Okay. Is there any 2x4's down there anywhere you might need one? Yeah...

06:47 Last time I did it was five years. This siding, I bought three blades.

10:16 Four! I remember my first day playing golf

12:10 Did you see it hit? Yeah, I just hit the water. Did it? I didn't think that I could get over the water. I'm glad Paul's smart enough to... Hey did you get that new movie yet? I saw it yesterday. How'd you see it? Because a guy that had it came over to the house Bruce saw it too. Is that the first one? Bruce never saw the first one. Hey Scott, Pete's home!

14:10 We've got about as high as we can get with the siding in the back. What do you want us to do? I'd like to put this window up and start it here. Okay. Watch that behind ya there, big guy! Oh yeah, dollar a gallon they can afford to dump it all huh?! How're you doing Edd? Is that correct? Yeah, it's a little different. There you go! Hold there. Oh yeah. There ya go. That's gonna be enough to catch the front. You got small pieces right there. You've got 30 pegs.

17:09 How's that gonna be flushed? Yeah, I'm not sure. Feet popped on right. Ready? You gotta believe in it. They got rid of somewhere. Ah! What the hell is wrong with you? We need a classic music band here. Are you running against or are they getting out this time? I'm running against them. I've had my try and I don't know who to trust. Hey pal, how do you like the kick?

19:08 All that cooksware there, they offer one thing a day. Free food. I don't understand it. Time out! Let's take a picture of this is that right? Hello, how are you?

CHAPTER 03 / 16 Discussion

Witness Account of Helicopter Assault on David Koresh's Bedroom

A witness describes seeing helicopters approaching the Mount Carmel Center in a V-formation during the 1993 siege. The account details how gunfire was directed specifically at David Koresh's bedroom, a detail the speaker claims was omitted from mainstream television coverage. The conversation shifts to the funding of the new church project, which is reportedly fully paid for through contributions.

waco· david koresh· helicopters· mount carmel· church construction

21:04 So you were on the second floor, you saw helicopters come from that direction in a V-form. They shot so many holes and they knew where his bedroom was and they just fired right in there. This is the kind of stuff we didn't see on television

22:01 And didn't hear a lot of things. But you're free now, and you've got a lot of people here helping build this new church when do you think this project will be finished? But the contributions have been coming in... As far as that is concerned... Fully paid for. Well who knows maybe this will help to get some money out there. For myself I know what we need.

CHAPTER 04 / 16 Discussion

Site Safety and Reflections on the Waco Fire Footage

Construction continues at the Waco site as workers manage safety around the second-floor installation. A speaker references a copy of footage sent by McNulty three weeks prior, which allegedly depicts the start of the fire at the compound. The dialogue touches on learning from past mistakes and turning the memory of the event into a form of vengeance.

waco· mcnulty· fire footage· construction safety· vengeance

23:10 Yeah, he could be inside. Don't let anybody get under this.

24:28 My niece. Like that, he's got. Don't do this. Come on now. Where is Jeff? OK, we might need. Okay, a little bit this way. A little bit over here Scott. There it goes! How's it look Catherine? Good!

25:39 It looks great. Go ahead, Mary. It's on tape. Wow.

26:55 So this has been here from the first load on? Yeah. In the caravan, in his load. Wow! Thanks Mary. Hey Pokey, did you get your nails up here?

28:30 That was with a nail gun. Not all nail guns. I wish I could see me in it. Hey, Ted! I haven't got to see any of this. Yeah but I had to go. McNulty told me he was sending the copy of it. It's three weeks ago? He made it look like they started fire out here.

29:55 At the same time, we have to learn from our mistakes and turn these into vengeance.

CHAPTER 05 / 16 Discussion

Iraq Reconstruction and Calls for Ending Religious Warfare

A speaker discusses the right of Iraq to rebuild its economy while contrasting it with the situation in Turkey. The monologue calls for an end to religious conflict and vows of vengeance, emphasizing a need for justice and the rebuilding of America. The discussion is framed within the context of the ongoing construction project at the Waco site.

iraq· turkey· religious warfare· justice· america

30:34 I want to say things like this so I can walk on the rock and even think about it. First, I want to believe that these are necessary. That is a curse. Secondly there will be just as many barriers to our creation. And in order to cooperate for justice delivery of the kind in terms of cooperation I'm talking about Iraq. Iraq has a right to rebuild its economy, but the people of Turkey don't have that.

31:24 We're going to end the war. No more vengeance, no more vows of vengeance, no religious warfare, no religious conflict. We must get justice and that means we have a right to rebuild America. All we can do is take a look, put another window over here and then the whole second floor. And get some insulation machine program up the same as that one on the other side

CHAPTER 06 / 16 Discussion

Kitchen Activity and Personal Debts Among Volunteers

The focus shifts briefly to domestic tasks as a volunteer prepares to put food in the oven. The conversation turns to personal matters, including a mention of owing a man named Bob $121. The group discusses the fluctuating nature of their resources and the names of various individuals involved in the community effort.

cooking· personal finance· debt· volunteers· community

33:01 You got to run this out more. You gotta run this out more? No, no I'm not. Get that! God willing. I got it.

36:15 I'm going to go ahead and put it in the oven.

37:50 I I'm walking around with my son. Why don't y'all tell me take them off? Mary, I got a bunch of other names for you.

41:16 We get real good and all of a sudden we just have nothing. I owe that guy Bob 121 bucks

CHAPTER 07 / 16 Discussion

Memorializing the Children of the 1993 Waco Siege

A speaker describes the horrific condition of the remains of children recovered after the 1993 fire at Mount Carmel. Specific mention is made of an eight-year-old boy named Cyrus and three 18-year-old girls, Sherry and Michelle, who died in the incident. The narrative emphasizes the loss of life and the intelligence of the children who were killed during the government raid.

waco· mount carmel· cyrus· sherry· michelle

45:18 And I decided, I don't have to make this look so good because it's supposed to look ugly. The other one I did was a little darker but the fact is they had no arms and no legs and this is not little pretty girls like this 18 year old girls. They do not... This is not the way you want them to look. I realized every child looked different. Every child came out of that fire Whether they were under a blanket and they were being protected by their mother each child was different some children could tell the clothes And other children said that heads fell off in their hands. Yeah, so but this is the majority of people came out looking like this and as a result I think we should realize This is a horrible thing

46:16 My name is Cyrus. I was eight years old when i died, I was burned alive at Mount Carmel April 19th 1993 This one that picture of the Waco the new revelation to show the bodies of the children It's burnt too crisp no recognition This is how I used to look He had blond hair blue eyes freckles he's a cute little guy very smart very intelligent and he says why didn't I get a chance to grow up You know, why couldn't they have had a chance to come and see all this? To know that so many people cared. It's enough that his dad would've died but to think he could have been alive seeing all the things that people were considering. The different things that happened. We have one here as a native. Sherry and Michelle. These are three girls who were burned at Mount Carmeline from 1993

47:17 We don't know what they look like, but we know that the understanding I have is the remains is what they came up with a lot of these young children. These are three girls who were best friends at 18 years old and a few months from being 19. They try to talk and be with each other. It's insane. Oh yeah. Digging around in here? Basically Can you give me one of those 50 cals you got? Ed, come over here. Something right here, Ed. OK. Try something there. Let's start it again. You can hit one satellite. OK, let me try that one.

CHAPTER 08 / 16 Discussion

Photography and Lightning Effects at the Construction Site

Volunteers discuss capturing high-quality photographs of the site, including shots of the sun cresting over the trees. There is a technical discussion about editing lightning flashes into the photos and the visual impact of power poles in the background. The conversation meanders through topics such as cigarette brands and the appearance of atomic devices.

photography· lightning· atomic devices· cigarettes· email

49:46 Look out below! That's the most visible thing to know about atomic devices.

52:20 I like how you did it one time with the, you got a little bit of flagpole in. That one picture was excellent. Oh yeah. Bye! God bless ya! Mikey Hanson! Yeah? Little Mikey Hanson. Mikey! His name's Mikey. His mom calls him Mikey. Mikey!

53:47 Oh yeah. Target maximum firepower, email me that with the power poles in the background. Are you going to edit in some lightning flashes coming from the sun? Oh wow look at it! You can see there. Man that is gigundous. Yeah. Try stepping out into that tree and then...you know what your doing. What pot? Cigarettes. Yeah I smoke do you want one? Yeah man. I got cigarettes on me. You quit, I thought. Then I have to do you a favor and not give you one then if your trying Winners never quit. That's correct, yes! Camel is good. Gotta have flavor not those sissy Marlboro lads. Got hit by a super megaton Yeah I really want to get the photos when it's cresting or right at the edge. It's real pretty when it comes up in the morning right over here. Seriously email that me and I will

CHAPTER 09 / 16 Discussion

Interior Finishing and Sandhill Crane Sightings

The construction crew evaluates the progress of the building, noting that 60% of the work involves time-consuming interior details. While discussing the upcoming painting and caulking, the group spots a large bird in flight, identified as a Sandhill Crane. The conversation briefly covers the taste of the bird and the legal requirements for hunting licenses and permits.

construction· sandhill cranes· hunting· painting· wildlife

55:03 Hey Mary! Sure. Thank you. It's coming nicely. It is, it's looking really good. There is so much to do though. Look this isn't just the quick stuff. 60% of building a structure is the little stuff inside That stuff takes forever If the walls and roof go up real quick that stuff happens overnight. I'm going to lock these two. How does it look?

55:44 It's getting there. It'll look really good when it's painted, once everything is caulked and painted. And all that scalp thing now? Scalping makes it look ugly on the boards. That's going to come down. We're doing one darn good job! Oh yeah. Are we going paint by hand or are you going spray it? No they're gonna spray it. They've got people coming out... recon... Nice night isn't it? Yeah, the doors may look good too. We probably put that window above the door too if we weren't going to do that. Is it lined up properly? Yeah! Oh yeah. Perfect. Really? Yep. I know. I mean this is incredible to get this much out of. Look at that stork or something. Look at that. Isn't it? Probably. No, that's big. It's got long legs hanging out behind it. Maybe its one of the uh... whatchamacallits? Drone? No, the uh... Eagle? Sandhill.

56:57 Sandhill's back this time of year. I saw its nose and had like a deal or whatever that is. Sandhill, that's his neck folded under. They fold their necks in flight You can go shoot them sand hill cranes. Maybe you could finally shoot them now. Really? Tastes good too. Supposed to have a license on it. Now that looks good! And a permit but...I ain't had a hunting license in I don't know how long. Move it over Mike rotate it where they're straight You're not centered and it's no leveled. To your right! You gotta level it. I'm not putting it down just showing ya

CHAPTER 10 / 16 Discussion

Siding Alignment and Scaffolding Logistics

Workers discuss the technical alignment of the siding to prevent rain from entering the attic through the slots. There is an urgent request for a builder named Steve to install stairs the following week, as the current scaffolding will become unusable once the siding is completed. The segment ends with the crew wrapping up for the day as the temperature drops.

carpentry· siding· scaffolding· stairs· construction

57:39 Well, take your right hand down. When we take a photo of it looks like we didn't know how to do it! Put your left hand up and your right hand down little bit Yeah that's it I can't believe were not going to slant stuff upwards though. We're gonna have it straight. Oh yeah! Otherwise you'll be raining everything inside Really? Yeah if you put them in slots turned the other way rain will come right in there. That way the rain won't run down them but still air everything out The heat rises and comes out of your attic Now Alex get up here let me see how it looks That's alright. We need to get them stairs in there. Mikey! Steve is going to come and build them. When? Next week? Steve who? We need those stairs next week Mike as soon as we put up all this siding that scaffold is gonna be no good for getting up in there. Those stairs need to get in their real quick, were gonna need em'.

59:10 It's all locked up and I got a piece of plywood man. That's the end of the day! Non-union boys stay until 10 o'clock! Get back in there, Alex wants coffee! I need to get back here and get my coat in here I forgot.

1:00:43 He didn't even act angry wasn't even cold

CHAPTER 11 / 16 Discussion

Final Measurements and End of the Work Day

The crew performs final measurements for the door and bridge cap, using specific indices like "111" and "115 and a half." They coordinate the return of ladders and mark the wood for the next phase of construction. The segment concludes with the workers saying goodnight as they finish their tasks for the day.

measurements· carpentry· construction· work day· tools

1:03:01 Take the ladders back. I got another one right there. That's not long enough though, is it? That one? Yeah. How tall? Don't measure it! It's a big one! It's a big one! It's a big one. It's a big one. Okay, let's get it blocked. Excuse me sir... So this is where the door opens? This is where the door opens? Let me put myself in my mark right here and then you can see that way.

1:05:21 111, 111. 111. Both hands? That's one-one-one to the long side of both hands. Correct!

1:07:07 Get a pencil? Yeah. That's why I go like that, right? We got the bridge cap It wouldn't have been any good if we can't get another two pieces

1:08:29 Want that other end again? Let me mark this first. We're good! No matter what they say. That's as good as the front. They've been working all day, we could have had three hands back here. I was up there working but we had four people up there.

1:10:01 Let me get one in like I did last time. Actually when we're all lined up. I can get all of them. Can you get one in? About 100. Under the side of the wood. 115 and a half.

1:13:22 Good night.

CHAPTER 12 / 16 Discussion

Window Trim and Self-Defense Commentary

The group discusses the installation of 3.5-inch trim on the windows and the upcoming painting schedule. A television is set up to watch Fox News, and the conversation takes a dark turn with a comment about an individual's actions being "self-defense" regarding a self-inflicted injury. The crew continues to joke and interact while managing their remaining supplies.

window trim· painting· self-defense· fox news· construction

1:15:47 Boy, it looks good right there. Pose! Yeah but you need to pose for this. There's going to be trim on that window too. Huh? What'd you say? There's gonna be trim on that window too. Oh can you go up a little bit? Yep. 3 1⁄2 inches of trim 4 and ⅜ right there You're missing out, Ophelia. You're missing it. I'm sorry. Go get in the picture. Now you missed it! Put that thing on there. Put it up there again. I'll put y'all's bumpers left. That was pretty close now. It was good enough for rebuilding a church anyway.

1:17:28 I don't know. It wasn't coming in today. Oh yeah, it's on now. On a Saturday? Come home. Let's see if Fox comes here. It's thirty-three. Forty four. We got our TV set up.

1:22:31 There he is. 39. 39. Doing alright, Tim?

1:25:34 There you go. Now you got it, now you got it. Cream with a brown that would be like they had last time. That would make it look like... Does that need to be primed first? No. Well they're gonna have to fill all the holes in them He did pretty good job on doing it last time I'm going to call Steve and tell him come out and start again 3 1⁄4 inch paint. Work on it like that. 3 1⁄4 inch paint is good stuff. 3 ¼ inch thing? Yeah. That was self defense, you guys did. That was self defense! He wanted to cut himself in half. I'm all for it. Could you put a nail in that for me please?!

1:27:06 No, I can't. I'm out of mail! Ha ha ha! No you ain't! No you ain't! It's not gonna be like that. It isn't going to be like that. And then I tell her dance and she goes like this... And then I tell about talking to me. She loves it! Yes, that's a little bit. A little ritual. She'll do it about ten times and then she gives up at the end. Can we have some? Yeah, you can. We need them.

1:28:10 Well, that's the one you gave me.

CHAPTER 13 / 16 Discussion

Door Installation and Security Hardware

A volunteer named George offers a 3-0 door for the project, noting that a frame will need to be built for it. The workers discuss a security technique using duplex nails to prevent a door from being removed even if the hinge pins are taken out. They also address the logistics of hauling long materials in a truck.

door frame· duplex nails· security· hinges· carpentry

1:28:57 So just do it different on this side. You're right, you're right. I've been thinking that piece didn't do me any good. If i had put it on the other side... That's fine! That piece can come down and we got a spacer to work with. Yeah that's true. I'd set it in there on that table. Valentine, she's never eaten here. She went up to Clyde one time at the hearing. You can remember things you know what I put her? What is that noise? That's someone backing up before he pulls those off... I am. ...you need to move them from the top down. That's all i was going to do. Somebody's backing up! Alright, this is my pager.

1:30:32 Hey Peter, that's not a good place to sit right now. I hope you can get the picture without scaffolding kid! Well it is ok if you slip Mike the camera is running. Oh gosh! What about this? Ok watch out

1:32:23 I'm going to take the pull ball out. Yeah, that lock has come off too. So what did they say? We need 16? We got 15 and a half or something. Well it's 16 of them. Some of them have to be repaired. We'll make it do. Well there are some where they can't take the hinge pins out. That could work too

1:33:13 You take this screw out here and here, and you put a double-headed nail in there. A duplex? Duplex, yes. And then even if they take the pin off it still won't come off. Do you have a door for that? I've got a 3-0 door just like this Really George! It's used but it'll work Yeah we painted them But its a door only and you'll have to build a frame for it We able do that? Sure Well thats the thing...I don't know if he can even haul all of that in his truck because its so long

CHAPTER 14 / 16 Discussion

Van Accident and Local Commute Discussion

A speaker reveals that their van was recently wrecked after an unidentified driver ran them off the road while they were returning with construction materials. The incident occurred while the speaker was with Alex Jones. The conversation shifts to the cold weather and the locations of the volunteers' homes down the road.

car accident· van· alex jones· materials· commute

1:34:00 Well, my van's wrecked but if I get a rent thing maybe I can haul it up on the trailer. We'll see You know my van got wrecked last week. No it didn't. When? Some idiot... Alex and I were coming back to get some materials and some idiot ran me off the road. How bad? I think its done being in shop for awhile now. What what what? Oh it is cold out here. Oh todays really warm compared to yesterdays. Oh really?

1:34:44 Oh my, how did you do that? I painted on the coat. Is this a long way down? Well not right here, I live back there...down the road. Mom we're going to go back that way too! Oh you do? Yeah we went in that direction. Oh, man.

CHAPTER 15 / 16 Discussion

Stair Construction and Media Production Logistics

The crew discusses the construction of a new set of stairs and the availability of 2x6 lumber. Interspersed with the building talk is a discussion about media production, including the use of a steady cam and a critique of a show's advertising. A reference is made to a "TIT-TAC from West Virginia" who was expected to appear but was last heard of in Nashville.

stairs· steady cam· advertising· radio show· construction

1:36:06 Hey, looks good. Yeah I know i'm going to film it in a second. I don't think you can hang in the hole that it's hanging out of.

1:39:25 Steady cam. Sort of unsteady at the moment. One of the more realistic. I think that was pretty good too. Well, the second part is a lot smarter show than what the advertising's made up to be. I got better in previous work. Another behind-the-scenes piece? Not this piece. We'll find out if there are any information

1:41:27 Yeah, just kill it in its less than an hour. I can't believe that one guy is supposed to be a TIT-TAC from West Virginia? He didn't even show up yet! Let's bring this up here. He was in Nashville Tennessee Friday night. It was all on the Alabama Radio Show you remember. I heard there was a ride for us. Yeah, whether he got that message. That's what I heard. Yeah, whether he got that message or not. Grab the side of this. We're going to need to cut this. So that is what the deal is gentlemen! 94 inches but it will work.

1:42:41 Alright, bring it on. Absolutely serious if I had to pick between the two I would take cabinet and floor and sacrifice them for walls. You better start shooting. Okay. That's it. Mark it. Nice set of stairs. We have enough 2x6s?

1:43:37 Marks already there.

CHAPTER 16 / 16 Discussion

Wheelchair Ramp Planning and News Features

Plans are made to begin construction on a wheelchair ramp in approximately two weeks, which will require breaking out a section of the existing structure. One volunteer mentions needing to put an engine back in a truck before finishing the ramp. The segment ends as a participant departs to watch the evening news features.

wheelchair ramp· lumber list· truck engine· news features· smokes

1:46:30 Alright, see you later. See ya man. Coming up to the wheelchair ramp for us? It may be about two weeks. I've got to get my truck here. Can we get this done? Yeah, I can do that. Here and there. I need a lumber list. How are going to get from... how are you getting the wheelchair ramp over here? This is gonna have to bust out. We'll buss this out and start the ramp. Let me put my engine back in the truck next week and then the following week I'll finish it up. I don't know what it is, you know computer skin? These are all right? No. I need to get... I know the new ones now can't get them It's hard to do anything with these new cars and this. George! Yeah, well you want some? Do we need some? Let me give ya 20. Yeah, I don't need it.

1:48:02 Part of that truss, under that corner. See where the angle comes up? That piece of brazing there We can't go any farther than that. I'm buckling this thing or something. How much do you need to get down there? I got plenty. Did you save up? Flip it around for me. No, okay. I know you don't have any. I know you don't have any. I need an extra pair of hands.

1:49:18 I think that was one of them blind here. Is it sticking over there? Well mine is too, I mean i got an even right now.

1:50:21 Oh! They're doing news features tonight. That's my exit, I'm out of smokes homeboy is gone, down the road