39:00 So if you got any information on any of this stuff, here's your form. Here is your opportunity to tell the viewers of this program what is coming down and what being planned for our children and grandchildren so with that let us go ahead and go to this footage stay on the lines folks if you can we will be back in about 15 minutes God bless you We also got, there's going to be international charges brought against these people. There is a whole bunch of stuff being covered up. You people need to get some of your stories straight. Well if you slow down and talk to us we might. I don't believe they let him! I think he liked the slow down and talk.
40:10 uh You getting a fair trial? Maybe we should refer him to the... Are you kidding? No, I'm serious. Is he? Hey uh let's talk to this gentleman here maybe we should refer him through the what do ya call it? He'll be here Civil Affairs Officer! He'll be here are you guys ROT members yes okay is he getting a fair trial no why The law doesn't count here Morales is a judge, you know to heck with the legal problem just run these guys through You know and this something you guys should be concerned about because you could be next We wake over the head get back four miles. No one said he's getting her here. We all complain 10 miles away
41:04 I mean, this is a dangerous precedent. Have you sat in the courtroom at all? Not yet we just got here today but we've had reports from our people down here over the last couple of days How many so-called people do you think will show up for these verdicts? We don't know... we've had about a dozen or so wandering around for last week What does this mean if he gets a conviction I'm not sure. Is there still a Republican Texas movement? Are there some people who support him? Is there still an active militant branch? I don't think we ever had an active militant branch. They found them with a lot of guns and bombs, what would you call that? Have you seen any of these bombs they found them with? I saw a lot of weapons confiscated yesterday. But not the bombs!
41:59 I saw pictures of gas cans which you don't know they're full or empty or what? How many weapons they have up there for all I see was it'll be the Russian Russian rifle and that little bit What are y'all's options if he gets convicted, why can you do Well, he's uh... He'll probably run through an appeal process but there is a lot of irons in the fire as far as the lawsuits going on and state federal and international have taken place, so we'll see what happens. This is basically a jurisdictional issue and I'm sure the Supreme Court of Texas has ruled that the state has no jurisdiction over Republican Texas it's a separate entity according to the congressional record in several instances starting up in 1970 and ending up at the 104th Congress in 96 this place is supposed to be a nation. Let me ask you this...is he hurting himself by not
42:59 presenting or mounting a defense of any kind? I don't think so. Because if you're on trial in his position and it's the jurisdictional issue, then if you start mounting a defense according to state laws then you find yourself out to dry. Is he a dangerous guy? Is this movement dangerous? No offense but I think you are more dangerous than he is He's a gentle guy. Well, how do you explain the fact that Joe Roe was wounded in a hostage-taking scenario? Well he wasn't down there. Who was it? McLaren. He was on the show though wasn't he? He's on the radio talking to...
43:40 Yes, but as far as what happened at the Rose, you know I wasn't there so I can't tell exactly what decision was made by the people that got there. As I understand they were under pressure and if they weren't home and when it got their and they were home on it's...you know That's up to people who are there. I don't know what circumstances led up to that or anything else Do you see them being military targets? Yes. You still see them as military targets What? Well, if they were your neighbors and they notified...
44:19 It's true. Law enforcement or Indian, every time you take a wind, it makes you nervous Yeah but it is free country Well this is true still if someone is spying on your own country That's true but I mean would you want me watching you every time you went somewhere taking pictures calling neighbors and having them follow your run anytime you left? No that doesn't make you military techie that makes you somewhat of stalker or something like that Have you been talking to him during this trial? Yes, I have. What's he telling you about it? We don't discuss trial a lot we kind of BS and chew the fat He'll give me some of his feelings on it but other than that we just uh Kind of release for him. He'll call my house and we'd be asking him about it. It was on the Jeff Davis show about two weeks ago Is he taking this trial here seriously? Oh yeah Why is he defending himself Well its jurisdictional issues so hes
45:17 He's trying to bring that situation to the forefront. That is one of the things that he's also concerned about and I think if that was to get resolved, then it would be a whole different situation there wouldn't be a flood defense and whether the conviction will still happen or not...I don't know but that is one of the issues that has to be decided before Beyond Points can go on You said earlier we should all be concerned. Why? Well, the judge here isn't paying a whole lot of attention to the law and I think if you were on trial for anything from speeding tickets or whatever...I mean, you would want them to have to play by the same rules that you do And in essence what he was told, Larry and anyone involved with Freedom of Liberty, is that you have to obey the rules because we don't
46:02 If you don't like it, man. My question is if he's found guilty and convicted should there be any reason for him to leave? Will there be any retaliatory kind of action here? I don't see retaliatory type of thing in their future. That would be kinda like shut the gate after horses got out of here. Is she getting a fair shake in the media? No. In all honesty, I think that all of you are under tremendous pressure from your bosses to come up with a solution. And as a fellow in Austin, Jeff Davis has his program on the ice system.
46:51 He's been a pretty person. He's had to run the program by telephone, ask tough questions, look at it with an open mind, understands what is going on There are a lot of forces at work in this country right now and we need to be aware of it instead of just kind of pooh-poohing everything about oh well Clinton's bad but so what? No he's worse than bad George W. is worse than bad I've got a British car cleared up and the last on the back of it, the last line is that slavery an option. That's something that everyone needs to think about There are a lot things going on in this country people aren't paying attention to So why would that informant testify that Clarence wanted to buy those kind of missiles used against the Governor's claim? That's not a peaceful movement I don't know if he wanted to buy the missiles or not but normally and then the folks that i run into their federal informants that's always the first thing they push on you
47:43 is to come on by some goodies, come on buy some goodies. I'm a model railroader as a hobby, hobby And I used to go to train shows. There was a fella that went around the train shows wanting to know if anybody wanted to buy truckloads of M-16's, and I'm like whoa! But you know he wasn't even informing me... It's usual in traveling thing if you want to find a drug dealer go out there and start feeling dope. So you don't like somebody when they're military target with the roads? No no it's not a matter liking them or whatever That's something that the government has to decide on whether they're a target or an objective or somewhere that needs to be looked at, watched whatever. It's the same as any other government. I don't work in the government so I have no say. What is your name? Gene Ritter. R-I-D-T-E-R-T-T. What do you want to say to McLaren Ethics?
48:38 I mean, you drive them and y'all could be next. How so? Well... What do you mean by that? Well a lot of freedoms are being stripped away from us in this country And again going back to standoff, you guys are 10 miles away They sent out their talking head to tell you what they want to hear You had no idea what was going on up there. I didn't. We hear that the road's been kidnapped and that's the word going around, but nobody can see it. We weren't able to go up to the house and look. As news media, if they would have treated you guys when Nixon was in hot water the way that you're treated now I mean you guys were a cause for more trouble than the country's ever seen. If they would've denied you access to Nixon before he was governor like what we're doing right now
49:34 I would have started Civil War. The media, we'd have started Civil War. You know, are you having... And there goes the civil affairs officer. ...and the rebellions were put in place. But the whole thing is like a traditional day in the history of the situation. And the word, you know, we've just fell in the van and a few minutes ago. He just went in the door? You understand what it's all about. He just went into door, Gene. OK. But a guilty verdict is that of setback to free or false. I don't think so.
50:22 They seem to think, you know these fellas seem to think they can uh... keep everything clear. I don't know how this is going to get off the table. A lot of people are falling for a lot of crooked people who fall for those kinds of things. Half the reasons, you know? It just went up. Where's the rest of the Republicans in Texas? Where are the rest of the people? Why aren't they out here supporting Rick and Clarence? Well one thing we've gotta work through every year in this town is take all the little halfway crossed states I took the time off today and it's hurting people. There have been quite a few here in and out, all of us can't stay for the time we're using because that phone is coming in. It'll be good enough to watch TV.
51:10 show us the board see what's going on reported to the other folks there's a lot of court issues that are at stake like I said both on a state federal international level and some of those will have very serious ramifications on what's going on. To what extent does it hurt the local discussion in person? Well, I think it would hurt anyone to have all this. Hey, who would hurt a family to have a member of the family if your brother was in prison? You'd hurt your family. It's about the same thing. About the same thing. One of them deals... We hope it doesn't turn out that way because it is kind of bizarre corruption and justice but you wouldn't be the first guy around here.
52:13 Anyway, it's a break time. Only about three or four satellite trucks here. Here is Gene.
53:22 I'm not impressed with what i saw there as far as the trial it was a hoax. Not either nobody was there to object or one day the witnesses they had would just say anything It's the image of what they're doing It is disgusting as the facts are what they were. The witnesses that are on there, not being honest with you, it's like a good old boy network club the amount of absence of evidentiary control that is going on, is blatant in the expressions of its corruption. Obviously when the Morales decision to encourage the court not worry about making any... Yes sir?
54:23 I've been careful about following the rules, but they certainly took it to heart because they haven't followed them. It would be interesting at this point to look behind the desk and look inside of the hearts as well as heads of the people involved with this. Hello Austin, Texas and we are back.