Jeff Davis Show Classic November 3 1997 Army Merges W Civilian Police [FPGXx73eBT4]

00:00 Sorry to interrupt your classic viewing but here is Jeff Davis. What is it legendary? Jeff Davis and what should they do? subscribe to Go ahead Legendary, Jeff Davis show baby from Central Texas USA best in the world for 30 years And you're watching some one watch my car Hanson archives here on Facebook now my Mike tell us about okay. Well, that's what you don't interrupt let's go right back to Jeff Davis If you appropriate our sacred symbols

00:49 for paranoid purposes and compare yourselves to colonial militias who fought for the democracy you now rail against, you are wrong. How dare you call yourselves patriots and heroes? If you say the government is in a conspiracy to take your freedom away, you are just plain wrong! There is no freedom!" Now we can see a new world coming into view. A world in which there is the very real prospect of a New World Order. The New World Order does not mean surrendering our national sovereignty or forfeiting our interests, that America's central bank operates in the public interest. The truth is that the Federal Reserve is a private bank owned by private stockholders

01:48 and run purely for their private profit. If you have any doubt whether the Federal Reserve is a part of the U.S. government, check your local telephone book! In most cities it is not listed in the blue Government Pages It's listed on the business White Pages right next to Federal Express another private company But more directly, U.S. courts have ruled time and time again that the Fed is a private corporation Today we're all going to learn a new term. It's only two words, now listen closely Can all of you say constructive fraud? Constructive Fraud! Did you ever get the feeling as your staring up at me

02:41 at the ceiling. That this game of life we're playing is fair, seems as fast as we can make it fares a hand that grabs and takes us till they find us in a grave somewhere like a rodent on a treadmill we keep pushing forward uphill but never seem to get too far well if you think your being taken then your ready to awaken to the truth of what we really are We're all indentured servitudels enslaved Overburdened and bewildered feudal maids Who have lost our sole posterity through ignorance and apathy And now we're being taxed out of our graves

03:26 And as long as we stay passive, We'll succumb. Contented with some socialistic crumb. But naked truth in fact is, We're all staffed to pay our taxes! And that is why the banksters keep us dumb Could the state of our condition be the product of omission? What we didn't learn in public schools. And did our fathers all put history, all fighting die for liberty so we could play the tyrant's fools and can you call it education when it is all indoctrination to obey the hidden powers that be

04:05 Did we fight the revolution? Did we win the world wars just to slumber into slavery? We're all indentured, served poodles slaves Overburdened and bewildered feudal slaves Who have lost our sole posterity through ignorance and apathy And now were being taxed out of our graves And as long as we stay passive, We'll succumb. Contented with some humanistic drug. Will it make it to truth and factious? Where all taps should pay those taxes.

04:52 And that is why the banksters keep us down. While Franklin and Eleanor were telling us they hated war, They made a deal behind our backs. They said the bankers could enslave us for a portion of our wages And today we call it income tax. But what they failed to tell us was The way they planned to sell us into statutory slavery Now it's called constructive fraud Some even claim the wrath of God I call it social insecurity Let's stop being indentured Servitude of slaves Overburdened and bewildered feudal slaves And reclaim our lost posterity Rise up and proclaim liberty It's high time we rock the boat And make some waves

05:48 And the naked truth and fact is, we don't have to pay those taxes. Hello, it's Mike Hanson your good Facebook buddy and YouTube buddy. Here is Jeff Davis my great friend. We're not social distancing. See we are in 2020 now tell me about 1995

06:32 1995. That's what we're watching right now, Jeff! You caught me off guard with that one... I don't know anything about what is going on in 19- Oh! About how the technology is gonna bring world peace? We'll keep it a shade here and come on back. Yeah this fella and myself were Channel Austin TV studios in Austin, Texas public access about 1995-96. And I said to Mike Hanson we were in the control room and I said to him I said Mike you know? I don't know that...I don't know anything about this internet too much of what people are talking about but

07:12 If it turns out to be anything like people are talking about, it could bring world peace and liberty. And guess what folks? On this date 6 June 2020 we're heading into world peace and liberty! We hope so... No that's 100% guaranteed Jeff Davis show official prediction and as you know Mike Jeff Davis show has been deadly accurate on predictions. Great callings, Orwellian police states, Fed bank fleecing but this prediction Jeff Davis show prediction is gonna bring the greatest world peace and prosperity in the history of the world that's it! Well don't tell those protesters because I actually told them live and let live yesterday it almost got beat up Those protesters

08:08 Those people out there at them rallies just keep on going baby because we're marching our way right into a better place in this world. We hope so. Jeff Davis show knows so, so just keep marching away and just keep going and go on with love and peace before you know it, we're gonna have heaven on earth we're gonna get right back to... that's it baby. We're going to take you back to 1996 folks, we'll see you later. Peace baby! God bless you. That's it. We are back is that the right camera or which one am I in here? Anyway folks we are back here today and we've got a lot of things to talk about here number one number one we've got coming up later in the program

09:01 some exclusive footage from a press conference that was in Alpine, Texas last Friday I believe. Yep Thursday or Friday? Thursday and it involved Howard Miller who was a guest on this show Gene Ritter who was a guest on the show last week and it was concerning the trial of the ambassador to Republic of Texas Rick McLaren now this is exclusive footage of the total news conference. This is not just a little 30 to 40, 50 second piece that you might have seen on the national news where they're feeding you what they want to feed you this is actually much of the comments that were made concerning the event and what it's perceived to be in The Patriot Network as a kangaroo court operation so thats coming up here in just a few minutes

09:59 probably 10-15 minutes, now a couple things I want to talk about first off folks let me just mention this. I'm assuming this is non profit right? This house the homeless thing okay I was asked to do this so i'm gonna do it and I don't know that much about it yeah this was sent our PO box just a public service announcement okay all right here we go public service announcement can put the number up there okay alright can we get a close-up of this or is that out as a question? yeah. Okay, your presence has requested at the house...the homeless

10:48 It's a Town Lake Memorial Remembrance of the homeless men and women who have died on the streets of Austin. And this is November 23, 1997. That's good enough right there I guess. This was requested to be...this was actually sent to our PO box that we're...and that's coming up on November 23rd, 1997. A remembrance of the homeless men and women who have died on the streets of Boston. We have a quote folks that ties into this, I don't know if we're ready with it or not but we'll come back to this in just a minute. Couple things i want to talk about here first

11:44 Now this is something that was, since we got the close-ups rolling here. This was something I've been hearing about here for the last three or four months and now have a copy of House Bill, this is a state bill, a house bill House Bill 2901. Can we get a quick... It's called Relating to Paramilitary Training Organizations Slash Providing a Criminal Penalty And this is coming to us from that loving state operation. Okay, let's give it a close-up of that here. It's House Bill 2901 Right there is the copy of it

12:35 I don't know if you all can see it or not, but zoom in real close with that. Ok there's a copy of House Bill 2901 and i'm going to read to you folks some of the operations going on here within this corporate de facto government Keep in mind, folks that the Second Amendment was quite clear in its reason for why the American people needed to have firearms. It wasn't for duck hunting and it wasn't for can blanking as Hillary Clinton would have you say when they try to push for gun legislation that... I'm going to tie this also into some efforts that Mr. Clinton is pushing for right now

13:26 with some gun legislation. But I want to just first show you this bill, this is H estate bill House Bill number 2901. Apparently this legislation took effect on September 1st of 1997 But anyway, some of the particulars to this state bill that took effect here just a couple of months back. Number one, subsection talks about civil disorder which means a public disturbance involving an act of violence by group of three or more persons

14:10 Now that almost sounds fairly legitimate. If you go out and destroy something, then you could be punished. However when you read the face of this bill... When you continue to read the contents of the bill it goes on to say basically in subsection 3 here It defines a paramilitary organization, and this is actually now considered criminal according to this bill that took effect. Paramilitary organization means a group of three or more persons organized on a military pattern who possess firearms or explosive weapons

14:56 So essentially what that's saying folks, if you are in a group over at somebody's house and there is three or more of you there and you happen to possess a firearm according this new bill that took effect. You are breaking the corporate de facto laws Paramilitary organization means a group of three or more persons organized on a military pattern who possess firearms That's exactly what that saying folks. No other no other doubt about it That this is what this means here so in other words if you're out with two of your kids Let's say, you're an older fellow person and you're out with two of your teenagers essentially technically by this bill here You can

15:48 you could be subject to this tyrannical law here. And then in subsection 4b, it says train in the use of or teach the use of firearms to others for the purpose of committing an offense. Now this is kind of vague here, now if it means you know we my position is basically as long as you don't impose that right upon somebody else you can have any type of gun or weapon anything you want but if you continue to read this basically if you teach or demonstrate to another to use apply or making a firearm

16:35 or technique capable of causing injury or death if the person knows, has reasons to know and intends that firearm be used as a technique to cause civil disorder. Or meets with two or more persons at paramilitary organizations to train with practice or be instructed in the use of a firearm And it just goes on. Basically what it's saying here, folks... The gist of this HB2901 which is a state bill was that basically it completely oversees the U.S. Constitution and the Texas Bill of Rights which allows us the authority to maintain firearms

17:31 So this is another blatant attack on the second amendment of the US Constitution. Basically folks, just keep that in mind now technically by this law here if you are meeting with a group of three or more people and you happen to possess a firearm By definition of this house bill here You are essentially a criminal It can be foreseen as such which I think is very interesting. Now there's also some other piece of legislation coming down from the feds, it's actually not legislation yet but it's the conditioning that is underway for them and we're going to be talking about gradualism here in just a little bit and how the American people through gradualism have been

18:20 treatment and shock therapy have been uh... condition to believe what the things that are going on around us acceptable and we're gonna be talking about that here in just a little bit some of the things that uh... mister clinton uh... his trying to kill get through the congress and whatnot if he first off is calling for total uh... disbandment uh... to make it illegal for any type of uh... imported assault weapon coming into the country as hillary clinton stated that it was a we don't need these all weapons for duck hunting and for hunting purposes this is uh... what were being told so this is uh... this is the propaganda being used now uh... to

19:09 to continue to take away more of our right to keep and bear arms, and again condition the American public that we don't need all these weapons because by the... after all it's not legitimate for duck hunting or deer hunting which is of course again not what the second amendment was put in the constitution for. So they attacks on our liberties and our firearms are very blatant at this time. Very blatant on our attacks on the second amendment and this house bill, a thing that I've been hearing about for a long time is very evident of some of the shenanigans going even at the state level. I want to talk a little bit with you all before we get into some calls here

19:59 about uh... something that's been on my mind here this last week or so now when i started this program uh... roughly four and a half years ago may of uh... nineteen ninety three it was meant to be made that um... there's a lot many other things that i was talking about her i was going to begin into power crackpot banged work in spirit of the hearings What not. Basically, the line at that time was anybody who talks like I do is somehow a conspiracy theory, a conspiracy kook and this is not real. And we talked about different things like for example black helicopters unmarked black helicopters on this program

20:52 which there's been hundreds of thousands of eyewitness accounts of black helicopters flying over America. Unmarked, unidentifiable black helicopters. Hundreds of thousands of accounts of this and yours truly has even seen a few in the last four years Now, that was one thing. The second... One of the second things I talked about was how dangerous it was to allow people who are not identified meaning wearing some type of facial covering such as a black ski mask to come busting into your homes

21:34 This is very similar to the Inquisition and some of the tactics of the emperors and their minions many centuries back. And we talked about this, how this was dangerous that we cannot allow people who are unidentifiable to come busing into our houses or homes. We talked about this We talked about the movement towards taking away our US sovereignty, putting it into the hands of ungodly world organizations like the World Trade Organization and the United Nations and NATO.

22:11 and the World Health Organization, and various different factions on this so-called international community. We talked about all of this and we still do talk about it but the fact is that at that point in time The general philosophy that the establishment media would condition the American public to accept was that this was wild conspiracy talk. And there's no truth, no basis to this. Well come to find out folks... That they are now in many forms on the so-called media admitting much of this is not reality

22:55 They do in fact employ officers from different levels of so-called law enforcement to come busting into your house wearing ski masks. This is a fact, they're admitting it now! They are also admitting the fact that they are using certain aircraft unmarked aircraft for surveillance They're admitting this now. Keep in mind, three or four years ago this was written off as wild conspiracy talk. Okay? But now a lot of this stuff is being admitted to At the time when I first started discussing these things it was brought to my attention that this could not be true and that Jeff Davis... Actually people were programmed to think what i was saying was some type of wild story

23:51 And that was the line that was fed then. Now, the reason why I want to talk about this folks is because this is a very important area where the enemy is manipulating the minds of the masses and the masses do not even understand how they're being manipulated around like goats That's what you are! You're being manipulated around like goats There's no other way to say it You people have your thoughts and your minds and opinions are shaped and controlled, then you don't even know that this is happening to you. But the fact is three or four years ago the old standard line was that we

24:32 that this was conspiracy, wild conspiracy talk. Now that they're admitting it to you what are the dumbbells and the dupes saying about this stuff now on what I was saying four years ago? Well i'll tell you folks its a simple oh thats ok so what if their doing that? So what if there busing into people's homes with schema? I saw that on McNeil Lear! I saw that on such-and-such the CNN thats OK its acceptable so before folks I want to make this drive this home to how duped you are the ones that you out there that don't understand how your being manipulated like goats. You're being told one, getting fed one set of goods on one end three or four years ago and your falling for that now through conditioning and through gradualism your being forced to believe what's happening to you is acceptable

25:29 this is a very powerful, very subtle brainwashing going on of the American public and most of you don't even know what's happening. I'm just coming out with it today many people not the ones that watch this show but many of the people that were saying these things about me and others like me are dupes and your being dupe by a brainwashing mechanism that's so entrenched now, and 24 hours a day of propaganda being fed to you that you don't even understand what is happening to you and how your thoughts and your opinions are being shaped and molded by people you don't even know. And that's the bottom line...your dupes! And advancing that even further I now want to get in briefly talk about this

26:27 what's going on down here at city hall. This is a fiasco going on down here at City Hall and I haven't heard one person yet say exactly what any of this stuff is all about First off folks, we have about if I read it right We have approximately 90 million dollars worth of bonds that are fixing to get bucked To the Travis County taxpayers tomorrow I hope that there is enough resistance in this community, if the elections are not rigged to vote these bonds down and get this debt off the... keep this debt from piling up on the backs of the Travis County taxpayers. Personally, I would say with a huge propaganda machine that's in place here locally majority of these bonds will probably pass

27:27 But beyond that, Jeff Davis stands against these bonds that are going to be voted on tomorrow because they are nothing more... They have nothing to do with the kids or the parks. Or the buildings or the roads What they have to deal with is debt and somebody financing these bonds preferably the New York banking houses and thats where this is coming from So I'm hoping that if the elections are not rigged, and many of us believe that they may be. That these bonds or at least part of these bonds will be voted down tomorrow and at least for now that debt will be off the backs of the Travis County taxpayer so i encourage anybody watching this show to still vote, if you still believe in voting To go vote against every one of these bonds

28:21 Don't believe the lying of the newspaper down here about it being for the kids. Don't believe this crap, because everything is for the kids or for the environment or for roads... What it comes down to is debt and for the financiers so vote against every one of these bonds! Now I want to talk a little bit about this annexation deal going on down here at City Hall Now this is a situation where it's much deeper and much broader than the resistance that we're seeing.

28:57 The fact is the slave masters, and that's what they are, preferably like people to be sucked into these huge cities. That makes people dependent upon cities their water systems, their electrical systems etc. They hate independence so they basically want everybody hooked into these cities and get everybody rung into the cities and their so-called services. Now, the annexation deal is a bad deal. Let me make that clear it's a bad deal has to do more with regionalism finances

29:39 and setting up this global world order system more than it does any of that's essentially what it is all about folks. It doesn't make a difference whether you understand that or know that or believe that, that is what its all about now if you notice if you've been watching any of the city council I can watch little of it but the little bit even the opposition from these neighborhood groups is not real opposition, it's what I call loyal opposition. If you hear what they're saying, the few that i've watched, its not that they don't really mind being annexed and taken over by the big beast called the city of Austin, they dont want to be annexed

30:28 without the guarantee of all the so-called services you know those services that they were they take good care of yet provide all of the equality service so it's loyal opposition but the fact is uh... annexation should be rejected should be fought against for the fact that that uh... these outside communities are do not want to be incorporated into this this huge base they don't wanna inquire the debt of the huge beast And many of them, I would hope would not want to fall under the regulation of the huge beast. But generally speaking that's not what we're hearing from the opposition. The opposition basically is that we don't want to be annexed until you can guarantee that we get all our services So the annexation is a problem

31:18 I just heard the other day that there's probably going to be more city bonds coming up sometime next fall. So, more debt piling up on us. It is a continuous onslaught of debt and bureaucracy and regulation coming at us unparalleled probably in the history of the world. That's the simplest way to put it, we are under attack here and unfortunately many people that are on the surface in the resistance do not understand exactly what is even happening with it and their resistance is weak

31:57 Okay, let me just get back to this thing here again. Town Lake Memorial Sunrise Service November 23rd 1997 in remembrance of the homeless men and women who have died on the streets of Austin I'm going to go ahead and promote this for this organization But I'm going to put my spin on it as to why there are so many homeless people running around in America today. And, uh...I think this quote coming up here by Thomas Jefferson will best define why i believe that many people are homeless and becoming homeless. And I think Thomas Jefferson some 175 years ago said it best

32:51 when he made a quote that... We ready with it? Basically, I can go ahead and read it if they're not. Okay right there it is folks! That's the direct quote from Thomas Jefferson If the American people ever allow private bankers to issue their currency first by inflation and second by deflation The people will one day wake up homeless on the continent Their fathers once conquered now you're probably not going to hear that from this organization here but it doesn't make any difference, here on the Jeff Davis show we come out and tell you folks what's really going on here and what's behind all of this. That's it cut-and-dry if you want my opinion thats why were under attack down here but thats okay were gonna keep telling it like it is and tell ya who doing it too down here

33:43 because somebody has to do it and that's the function of this program and the people that are involved with this program. A couple of other quick things I want to just quickly talk about here, you got these, I'm going to change the name here a little bit, at least from my angle I am going to start calling them the freedom seminars and they have been The last Sunday of every month now, I think this will be about the sixth one that's been there and yours truly is one of the speakers or at least scheduled to be one of the speakers. And many other people there that speak at these seminars

34:28 The last time there was a pretty good turnout, that's all I can really say about that. But the last Sunday of every month if you seek alternative type information these seminars are called freedom seminars and I think thatís more appropriate of a title. So anyway folks, vote against the bonds. Tomorrow is the bond day if you haven't already voted against them go vote against every one of them because remember debt is slavery and don't let the propagandists convince you that this was for the kids If people who controlled this system cared about the kids they wouldn't have slaughtered 17 of em in Waco Texas on April 19th 1993

35:22 And speaking of Waco, Texas February 22nd we're scheduled to have a Waco Remembrance down here and it's in conjunction with the Freedom Seminars. We have several of the Branch Davidian survivors scheduled to come down here and that'll be on February the 22nd of 1998 The date's not up there, but it is coming and that should be a good event as far as I'm concerned.

36:00 I want to just mention a couple of the hypocrisies that i've seen in the news today or the news over the last week and some of the most ridiculous things that I have seen, some of the most ridiculous emissions of things coming out of that news. That it's absolutely incredible what they're saying first off I sat up there and watched Madeline Albright and Bill Clinton, supposedly of course they're just puppets in the world order game. In the world order business anybody that understands that knows that however for these people to sit up there on national television and condemn China for supposedly human rights violations For example in Tiananmen Square and what not

36:51 This is laughable. In fact, it's incomprehensible that these people could be talking about human rights violations in China and Tiananmen Square specifically when just in the last 15 years this government from just what we know, what we've been told has murdered 80 some people in Waco, snuffed out the young 14 year old Sam Weaver in Ruby Ridge Idaho. Gordon Call, the tax... The man that didn't believe in paying his taxes

37:29 Just on and on and on, the so-called human rights violations that this government has participated in. The hypocrisy and the deception of these phony leaders trying to pin China with these allegations is preposterous, to say the least. It's absolutely preposterous! And quite frankly, I think the whole China situation at this point in Taiwan and some of these things that have happened on Wall Street is nothing more than a diversion to get you away from what's happening here. And get you thinking the enemy are the problems in China and Taiwan where in fact the enemy right here in good old US of A. Preferably in Washington District of Criminals and the banking houses of New York City That's the enemy

38:25 so and another thing too I want to put the rest anybody that says that i am privileged to come up here and tell you all this,and this government is so loving that they allow me to do this. And they won't allow it in other countries? You're full of it man! You don't know what your talking about This information is so prevalent now on other countries other nations that it got so bad in Bosnia, for example. That they literally... The anti-UN and the anti-NATO information that was being disseminated was so much and so pervasive in Bosnia that they literally went in and scrambled their communication lines You people don't know what you're talking about! You are duped on almost every front these days. You are focused then on fashion Marv Albert OJ

39:21 All of this crap that they feed you and your getting your rights stripped blind from you, your getting your resources sucked off from ya. And your focused on absolute issues that their feeding you have no significance and your blaming people like me for complaining about what's going on here. What hypocrites you are to listen to the propagandists who are controlling and manipulating your minds, and you don't even know who they are! Absolute hypocrites! Now with that I want to say beyond that everything is well here for Jeff Davis

40:03 everything is going quite well here for now and Okay, let me just mention that coming up here. There's the return of teledemocracy this Friday 830 p.m.. On channel 16 Teledemocracy returns with my friend Greg Erickson so any of you tell a democracy fans He is coming back as this Friday I guess that's what the 7th of November something to that effect and with that folks, I know the lines are jammed just stay on the lines what we're going to do now. I'm going to run this footage is a press conference it took place Thursday last week

40:54 And now a lot of this was seen on the national news. Well, not a lot of it about a minute and half of it was seen on the national news and I don't fault them for only showing a minute and half of it because they do have limited time for these things but what I do criticize them for is there's the side that they want you to hear in this coverage that we got first-hand footage you'll get all the information or at least part of it. It's like 40 minutes and we're going to run like 20 minutes of it but you're gonna hear the actual news conference and different interviews with different people, so I think that... And then we will be back for the last half hour or so.

41:52 Okay folks I want to thank the Ridders again they've been a frequent guest on the program they're doing some excellent work and genuinely I want to thank everybody that's been involved in this show that's been doing some excellent work with this show Linda is sitting in here, RE is sittin out there But there's been a lot of people here that have contributed to this show and continue to contribute. And this is what I believe puts this program at another level down here at ACTV, although some may say differently

42:31 Okay, now with that let's go to this footage here and then we'll come back take your calls because I am kind of curious to know what's on your mind. I've had a lot of guests down here last three or four weeks and we haven't had a lot of calls so if anybody has got any information on these topics that i talked about earlier or anything new going on in the world you know the world order is moving right along here folks and it's accelerating So if you got any information on any of this stuff, here's your form. Here is your opportunity to tell the viewers of this program what is coming down and what being planned for our children and grandchildren so with that let us go ahead and go to this footage stay on the line folks if you can we will be back in about 15 minutes

43:27 God bless you We also got the International Charging Squad against these people. There's a whole bunch of stuff being covered up, you people need to get some of your stories straight. Well if you slow down and talk to us we might! I don't believe they let him...I think he liked it slowed down his talk. yeah

44:17 You getting a fair trial? Maybe we should refer him to the... Are you kidding? No, I'm serious. Is he? Let's talk to this gentleman here. Maybe we should refer him to the uh what do ya call it? He'll be here. Civil Affairs Officer! He'll be here. Are you guys ROT members? Yes sir. Okay is he getting a fair trial? No Why? The law doesn't count here Morales is a judge, you know to heck with the legal problem just run these guys through You know and this is something you guy should be concerned about because you could be next We wake over the head get back four miles. No one said he's getting her here. Somebody offered plenty ran off 10 miles away This is the result

45:03 I mean, this is a dangerous precedent. Have you sat in the courtroom at all? Not yet we just got here today but we've had reports from our people down here over the last couple of days How many so-called people do you think will show up for the verdict? We don't know... we've had about a dozen or so wandering around for the last week What does this mean if he gets a conviction I'm not sure. Is there still a Republican Texas movement? Are there some people who support him? Is there still an active militant branch? I don't think we ever had an active militant branch. They found them with a lot of guns and bombs, what would you call that? Have you seen any of these bombs they found them with? I saw a lot of weapons confiscated yesterday. But not the bombs!

45:58 I saw pictures of gas cans which you don't know they're full or empty or what? How many weapons they have up there for my thing was it'll be the Russian Russian rifle and that little bit What are y'all's options if he gets convicted, why can't you do Well, he'll probably run through an appeal process but there's a lot of irons in the fire as far as the lawsuits going on and state federal and international violence that have taken place. So we'll see what happens, you know? This is basically a jurisdictional issue and I'm sure the Supreme Court of Texas has ruled that the state has no jurisdiction over Republican Texas it's a separate entity according to the congressional record in several instances starting from 1870 and ending up at the 104th Congress in 96 this place is supposed to be a nation let me ask you this is he hurting himself by not

46:58 presenting or mounting a defense of any kind? I don't think so. Because if you're on trial in his position and it's the jurisdictional issue, then if you start mounting a defense according to state laws then you've hung yourself out dry. Is he a dangerous guy? Is this movement dangerous? No offense but I think you're more dangerous than he is He's a gentle guy. Well, how do you explain the fact that Joe Roe was wounded in a hostage-taking scenario? Well he wasn't on there. Who was it? McLaren. He was brought on the show though wasn't he? He's on the radio talking to him.

47:39 Yes, but as far as what happened at the Rose you know I wasn't there so I can't say exactly what decision was made by the people that got there. As I understand they were under pressure and if they weren't home and when it got their and they were home on it's you know thats up to people who where there. I don't know what circumstances led up to that or anything else Do you see them being military targets? yes You'll see them as military targets What? Well, if they were your neighbors and they notified...

48:18 Law enforcement or Indians, every time you take a wind, it makes you nervous. Yeah but it's free country! Well that is true still if someone is spying on your own country... It's free country? That's true but I mean would they want to be watching you every time you went somewhere taking pictures and calling neighbors and having them follow your run anytime you left? No that doesn't make you military type of guy, that makes me somewhat stalker or something like that. Have you been talking with him during this trial? Yes I have. What's he telling you about it? We don't discuss trial a lot, we kind of BS and chew the fat He'll give me some of his feelings on it but other than that we just uh... Kind of release for him, call my house, we BS for awhile. He was on the Jeff Davis show about two weeks ago. Is he taking this trial here seriously? Oh yeah! Why is he defending himself? Well its jurisdictional issues so

49:16 He's trying to bring that situation to the forefront. That is one of the things that he's also concerned about and I think if that was to get resolved, then it would be a whole different situation there wouldn't be any more demands and whether convictions still happen or not...I don't know but that is one of the issues that has to be decided before Beyond wants to go on. You said earlier we should all be concerned why? The judge here isn't paying a whole lot of attention to the law and I think if you were on trial for anything from speeding tickets or whatever, you would want them to have to play by the same rules that you do. And in essence what he was told, Larry and anyone involved with Freedom For Liberty, is that we have to obey the rules because we don't. And if you don't like it then you can't do anything about it. My answer is that we found guilty and convicted should there be any reason for consideration

50:09 Will there be any retaliatory kind of action? I don't see any retaliatory type thing in the near future. That would be kind of like shutting the gate after horses got out. Is he getting a fair shake in the media? No. In all honesty, I think that all of you are under tremendous pressure from your bosses to come up with a story. And the president's fellow in Austin, Jeff Davis has his program on us as well.

50:51 He's been a pretty person. He's had to run the program by telephone, asked tough questions, looked at it with an open mind, understands what's going on There are a lot of forces at work in this country right now and we need to be aware of it instead of just kind of pooh-poohing everything about oh well Clinton is bad but so what? No he's worse than bad George W. is worse than bad I've got a British car cleared up and the last line is that slavery is an option. That's something everyone needs to think about. There are a lot of things going on in this country that people aren't paying attention to. So why would that have more men here?

51:29 I don't know if you want to buy the missiles or not, but normally and then the folks that I've run into their federal informants That's always the first thing they push on you Is to come on by some goodies. Come on past my goodies. Now a model railroader as a hobby And I used to go to train shows. I knew there was a fella that went around the train shows wanting to know if anybody wanted to buy truckloads of M-16's and I'm like, whoa! But you know, he wasn't informing me. It's usual in traveling thing if you want to find a drug dealer, go out there and start feeling dope. So you don't like someone when they're military target up the roads? No no it's not a matter liking them or whatever That's something that the government has to decide on

52:16 Whether they're a target or an objective, or somewhere that needs to be looked at and watched. Whatever. It's the same as any other government. I don't go into governments so I have no say. What's your name? Jim Ritter. R-I-T-T. What do you want to say to McClaren Heffernan? drive them, y'all could be next. How so? Well... What do you mean by that? Well a lot of freedoms are being stripped away from us in this country and again going back to standoff, you guys are 10 miles away they sent out their talking head tell you what they want to hear

52:58 You had no idea what was going on up there. We hear that the roads were kidnapped and that's the word going around, but we weren't able to go up into the house and look. As news media if they would have treated you guys when Nixon was in hot water with the way it is treated now I mean you guys were caught And there goes the civil affairs officer.

53:50 But the whole thing is, like I said it's a jurisdictional thing. It hits a legal situation and we just fell in the van at a few minutes ago... He just went in the door? You understand what its all about. He just went in the door Gene? Okay. For the guilty person that has set back the rear car. I don't think it's a big concern. Unless you think, you know, unless you think they can uh... To be very clear, if you look at the town of Bethel, there are lots and lots and lots of uh... A lot of good people going through the town for half a reason. You know?

54:38 where's the rest of the people? And now all of us can't stay for the time being because we've had folks coming in, and they'll be coming in a month while we're here. show us the board see what's going on reported to the other folks there's a lot of court issues that are at stake like say both on a state federal international level

55:32 and some of those will have very serious ramifications on what's going on. To what extent does it hurt the local discussion? Well, I think it would hurt anyone to have a... It would hurt a family to have a member of the family if your brother went to prison. It hurts families. You know, and it's about the same thing. About the same thing as that one. One of them deals, you know we hope it doesn't turn out that way because It's kind of a bizarre... ...corruption and justice, but uh... ...it happens. You know he wouldn't be the first guy I'd really hurt him. You know? What does that mean for me? I'm saying to the guy here on the back of the boat... ...you gotta judge people before you can do something about it so... ...you betcha! Okay. ...I guess once they are in their jeans or whatever... Get a little attention out here

56:31 Anyway, it's a break time. Short house. Only about three or four satellite trucks here. Here is Gene. I'm not impressed with what i saw there as far as the trial it was a hoax. Not either nobody was there to object or one day the witnesses they had would just say anything It's the image of what they're doing that is disgusting

57:40 facts or what they believe. The witnesses that are out there, not being honest with you, it's like a good old boy network of club the amount of absence of evidentiary control that is going on, is blatant in the expressions of its corruption. Obviously when the Morales decision to encourage the court not worry about making any... Yes sir?

58:22 I've been careful about following the rules, but they certainly took it to heart because they haven't followed them. It would be interesting at this point to look behind the desk and look inside of the harks as well as the heads that are involved with this. Hello Austin, Texas and we are back.

1:01:24 and I hope you enjoyed part of that news conference that took place Friday in Alpine, Texas. Let me just mention before we get started here folks there's some other shows down here on AXS that i would encourage you to watch this is a commercialism because it's all AXS first off tomorrow at 8 30-11 on channel 10 I believe, is it 10? 10 I believe. The Real Spin with Alex Jones comes on down here on channel 10 830 to 11 and then like i say Friday coming up here starting his new series Teledemocracy this Friday at 8 30 p.m. Channel 16 Greg Erickson comes on

1:02:20 And Saturday at 8 o'clock, my friend Terry Liberty Parker hosts his program from 8 to 8.30 p.m., on channel 10 down here on these access channels. These access channels folks are one of the many forums that we have to get some truth out to the public and what I consider a sea of controlled news and information So there are some other programs out there to watch and I would encourage you to check some of these other programs out.

1:03:03 I will remind you that there may be some differences in some of our opinions concerning certain things, but the fact is we're all united to the fact that we're getting sick and tired of news stories about what to do with your leftover chicken and magic. And how to get a pizza delivered to your home These are the kind of stories that were being fed on a regular basis, along with the issuance of bonds and more debt and all this kinda foolishness. So once again vote against all the bonds if you haven't voted already! If you vote...if you still believe in voting, vote against every one of these bonds tomorrow. These debt-producing bonds. It's not for the kids, it's not for the roads

1:03:59 it's for the financiers and the parasites who will profit from the financing of these bonds. Yeah, this is the kind of stories we want to see right here folks! Right here! We want the news media to tell us about how many houses have been stolen from property taxes here in Central Texas We want stories about how our local law enforcement is being turned into military outfits, with men conducting themselves with raids with black ski masks. This is the type of information we need!

1:04:42 If we're going to truly remain a free and independent people, not the best way to deliver pizza or get it delivered to your home. This is the kind of issues with no significance that were being fed on a regular basis and quite frankly I'm to the point where i don't even watch it anymore but sometimes you gotta watch into the fact that they have done you have to understand what the enemy is saying what they're doing so you can effectively counter uh... or at least try to a counter their huge propaganda machine that they haven't placed. So with that vote against the bonds if you haven't already and couple of things about Bosney I want to talk about

1:05:30 Bosnia, in fact if you remember this was told in 1995 December 1995 that the troops would be over there for a year. And now it is like two and half or nearly two years later and they're still over there now they're talking about extending even further It also appears that Iraq could be in trouble again because of the fact that they are not allowing those loving UN inspectors, supposedly to come in and test out their weaponry. So there's a potential here again that another minor skirmish in Iraq could take place And as far as some of the omissions I've been hearing coming from the media just out-and-out ridiculous things

1:06:24 One story I heard the other day was that we need to deal with Iraq because they potentially could control the whole world's oil market. And this is ridiculous, folks! Can you imagine Saddam Hussein and Iraq getting a big straw and sucking all the world's oil out of the Persian Gulf? This is the type of emissions that are coming from this propaganda machine in place And it's huge and it is overwhelming. But these are some of the things that we're being fed here, and its just amazing what's happening One other thing as far as information

1:07:09 uh... the idea that we are the only country now they can uh... object to anything that these good uh... these governments are doing it's just out not a lot of the fact that uh... through with the internet through international shortwave radio other mechanisms alternative press many there are people there are people across the entire planet now in every nation that are anti-new world order onto what's going on in there fighting and resisting uh... what happened so this whole business about where us being so privileged here in the land of the supposed free that we can get up and talk about this government is just another one of those little subtle lies that they feed you to keep your deaf, dumb and blind as to what's happening. I also want to reiterate again that i believe that they're purposely diverting a lot of attention from America's problems off China Taiwan and some these other Guatemala and some of these other areas

1:08:14 of the world to keep us focused off uh... the realities of what's happening right here on american soil so there's a lot going on folks plot of propaganda at play and uh... a lot of uh... the enemy is uh... is advancing for with that quite a bit about uh... propaganda and they've got different type of legislation in and whatnot one thing i want to briefly talk about but then we'll get this recall this country was founded folks on common law Basically meaning that you were sovereign over your own body, your own possessions. Your own honestly acquired property and that you were sovereign over that domain and basically could do anything with it provided you didn't impose the right upon somebody else

1:09:10 And beyond that, the government was there to enforce that. In other words to protect lives and property when people were being violated This was the old common law system that this country was founded upon Much of the Republic of Texas movement The sovereignty movements The freemen Much of the information... much of the information that... that were that many of these organizations are talking about, and this is the reason why they say these courts with the flags with the fringes. The gold fringes This is all talking about admiralty law versus common law And basically what we're caught up in now is a Roman civil-law system where basically the emperors

1:10:07 who control the system, impose laws rain laws down upon us to essentially make us all criminals. To make us criminals of the state where there's no victim except you have violated some paper law that the state has created which makes a criminal and subject to punishment This is communism, but more importantly it goes back to the old Roman civil law area that we're caught up in right now. And this of course comes down from the world order system and their minions throughout government and whatnot. And this is basically a difference between common law and the Roman civil law that were caught up in. The Roman civil law of course creates victims

1:10:59 creates criminals out of everybody through a reign of laws, a series of laws being perpetrated where there's no victim. And this is why I have...this talks...this is inclusive of for example property taxes. Here the fellow that was looting his $100,000 home thats paid off due to the fact that he owes $845 of property taxes to the loving Travis County. This is part of the economic enslavement that's upon our people today, and you can see it from that loving tax assessor-collector who is actually just a youthful idiot

1:11:46 a minion of the system, but the idea that we can lose our lives and properties and we've lost much of our rights now due to this Roman civil law of economic and social injustice that's going on. So anyway with that were gonna go... what did you need? Yeah, okay with that we're going to go ahead and try to take some calls here I appreciate you all folks holding all this time And i'm curious to know what's on your alls mind because it's been a while since we've taken some calls down here Just remember folks if you haven't already voted uh and if you still do vote Go down tomorrow and vote against every one of these bonds

1:12:35 and uh... i expect the bonds to pass the deal with the uh... the uh... hope i'm wrong but they've the propaganda is so so entrenched that uh... this program is not gonna be able to counter the investment made in pat and making sure ensuring these bonds pass meaning the disinformation of propaganda and the uh... the economic investment in these bonds without a good look at it You're on the Jeff Davis show. How you doing? Who's that? This is Alex. Alex Jones! Yeah, you got it. Hey listen when you were on my other media program this weekend something you said was absolutely true when

1:13:20 Alex, we've got to talk about the fact that we were saying years ago about the black helicopters and the militarization and federalization of SWAT teams. And people would call us nuts, call us crazy even though police would tell me this... We see the police cars putting infrared vision on top their vehicles. We see all this happening. I played clips of the rare news hour from the 23rd until last month where it openly showed black helicopters and said yes, the local police departments are now under federal control. They are for surveillance of the population. It's wonderful and shows a lady saying it's great. And then your point about bonds is very well taken

1:14:05 Do not vote for any of these bonds because there will only be another bond election and another bond election, all this money goes back to Boston or New York or West King or Germany. It's a local way to fight the conspiracy! You got it. And plus when I went to high school we had empty rooms here in Austin Texas. That is what is going on but last Friday's paper said if you don't pass the bonds front page in that session, this little girl Ginny or whatever her name was we talked about on the radio. Probably had a picture of her. Yeah showed a picture of her and said if you don't she won't get a new baseball field because they're building a prison on that land. Oh yeah isn't it so loving? We got to do it for the kids don't we! I mean how does people allow just the same thing and now your right I went down Halloween and I fell into them part

1:14:56 Parting that mature everybody does it and I'm not asking people to only care about the new world order but for God's sake some good self-preservation Would lead us to care about losing our individual rights. Do you bear? People don't sit down on them in fact That same Friday there was another article in I'll Get Off and it talked about how wonderful Boogie Nights is, you know that movie about the porno industry. And then below it they had another article where Richard Gere's film about China and them having to write that it was a big flop and stupid, and it said China is not bad. And this is what essentially said. It's said China would not have allowed OJ to get off with their military tribunals What's bad with that? So now you've got our paper openly in the movie section See this propaganda like you say comes real insidiously in entertainment

1:15:51 You say they don't care about news, and don't have an opinion. They have opinions because they're being programmed continually everywhere. Yes it's just continual what you say. Shot for a minute, then continue, continue... And they don't even know that their minds are being manipulated! It is group psychology. I tell people out there i'm not going to bring them up when you come follow me dot that's a problem for the network of a lot of people got it at that over the public free seminar they are people coming in and it is part of crack uh... all races very conservative very liberal libertarians united very clean-cut night people people with those things you name it real diversity

1:16:30 and you're not a racist, I'm not a racist. We know what's going on doesn't mean that we're perfect and you know thats the people argument is okay well your not perfect so were not gonna follow you I'm sorry, Jesus Christ. I don't think you are either and they want to keep following this global slave system be my guest Well it comes down to this it comes down to this I'm not even concerned anymore about people who just continually Stay duped and then they like it They like the video a lot of people won't even take three hours in their whole life to investigate what people like us are saying to prove us wrong. They'd rather just dismiss it, go back into denial and if you ask me their children and their grandchildren could potentially pay a very significant sacrifice because of this I also want to say this that the minions that are perpetrating this on us they're very much expendable in all of this

1:17:32 And that's the thing they don't understand. These enforcers, these cannon fodder are going to have to lose their lives in forcing the new world order but the last thing I want to say is... They already have! Look at Vietnam look at Korea. Take Levi Strauss and make Levi jeans and other things They are the original patent holders on denim. They make the best, they are popular all over the world but they're shutting down at least a third of their plants because there CEOs are patriots and trying to keep production here in America. They're going to have to move all their production now

1:18:08 uh... starting with a third of the offshore like people don't leave and and um... and i think all the other big producers because even if you're going to get it because of foreign labor but then they said and then the next ad was for something everything global global global and and and you know what this big climate treaty that would have been at the core fiction about a reduced our part of your consumption it's not global only america has to follow it could be industrialization plant we look at what they're doing is that they are playing nation against nation. They are doing this nation against nation business and I believe that's what China and all these diversions are right now but anyway Alex let me move on here tell us when your show is on tomorrow. Well listen Jeff, I appreciate the time you know we've had our differences. Tell me when your show is on tomorrow?

1:18:53 I think we're ironing those things out. Tomorrow night, it starts at 830 and goes up past 10. And that's exposing corruption and exposing mass media together. And tonight i'm going to be on Robert Smith show at 11. That's the entertainment show that I don't think people are gonna want to miss What channel is that? Channel 16. I'm on tomorrow night at channel 10. Ok, the one tonight at 1116? If people tune in tomorrow night at 830, I am going to show you and flag burning where you are again at the south side of the capitol. Oh, I love that! That made my heart... set my heart

1:19:30 I was watching Council of Foreign Relations. I taped it for 58 minutes and he didn't say anything but that University of Texas professor Walt Rostow, R-O-S-T-O-W uh... He said three things that alarmed me First he said that the tragedy moved into 21st century depopulation of the planet except for Africa. And number two, he said

1:20:07 We need to get away with the League of Nations and the United Nations. And Ted Koppel asked, did I hear you wrong or did I misinterpret it? He said we needed to get rid of the League of Nations and United Nations. And he said yes...you know, you know. Let me ask ya where'd you see this? I got it on tape. It's on C-SPAN That could have been a watered down version What we need now is something stronger than the UN since we moved into a new world economy. Another thing that bothered me was did you see that tape on those California sheriff's pepper spray in those people's eyes?

1:20:53 No, I didn't. Tell us about that. Well uh... well i got it on tape to bring to you. They took pepper spray and these protesters that were protesting against the logging camps, ecology protesters they were holding these kids down opening their eyes up spraying pepper spray right into their eyes and rubbing them in with two Q-Tips. And I've got a tape I'll bring for ya. Really? Yeah for sure man. It sounds loving! Yeah, bring it to us and we'll put it on. Yeah I think its kind of funny man that all of a sudden that 500 point crash happened just right when the Chinese guy showed up. I think it was organized to keep us from paying attention to what Clinton was doing Did you see him bow down to the Chinese guy? Well the bankers are definitely the ones manipulating that Wall Street deal In fact I myself lost about $3,000 last week

1:21:46 I mean, I think... But definitely it's the international bankers that are manipulating that. They keep saying we've moved now into a world economy Really? Yeah Can you get us a copy of that? I don't even watch the CFR meetings on C-SPAN anymore because it's a stage deal. Yeah, yeah go ahead. Yeah, but here you will can you hang on the line there and talk to one of the producers back? There sure what's your name? I'm Pat okay painting 300 remember that so which one I'll tell you later Okay, good. Yes stay on the line So they can know they can talk Okay We're virtually out of time here Let's go ahead take another call here real quick

1:22:51 Hello? Hi sir. How you doing Jeff? Good, and you? Yeah I'm doing fine man listen this is Jim and uh...I was interested on your House Bill 2901 can go over that again okay what do you know anything about it? Man i did not hear a thing about this total uh... Well I've been hearing for awhile the house bill 2901 by Hoshberg Does that ring a bell? No. Okay, is this Texas state bill by Hoshberg, H-O-C-H B-E-R-G A bill to be entitled an act relating to paramilitary training organizations providing a criminal penalty. Okay right here let's get a close up of it again

1:23:41 now at this path well quite a bit of that uh... section two the fact takes effect september one nineteen ninety seven important legislation crap and the crowded condition of the calendar to both houses created an emergency in imperative public necessity that the constitutional rule requiring bills to be read on three several days in each of us is spent and this will appear by suspended okay basically they have courted as if the So they snuck this one under our noses. Looks like apparently, I don't really know that much about the state house but apparently it's supposed to be read on three several days in each house Right But according to supposedly the emergency of this bill that needed to become law That was suspended Here is a copy right here if we can get close up Okay so The governor has signed it Okay okay Right here, can you get Yeah I see

1:24:39 Right there it is. Okay, has the governor signed this? You know I don't know the process. The way i read it its law now I could be wrong but the way that I read it takes effect. It took effect September 1st 1997 According to what says here yes sir Okay, well just another one of our riots shot to hell. Yeah let me just read briefly here what this says here. It calls a paramilitary organization means of a group of three or more persons organized on a military pattern who possess firearms

1:25:18 train in the use or teach in the use of firearms. I mean it's so vague, you and your kids out on your ten acre property and you got guns there and five of you and four of your sons... The point is basically that this is just another one of these laws and they may not even be a fortunate yet they may not even get it from any of the thing here if it's true all day paper that but there are other uh... i didn't hear about it uh... it's totally unconstitutional yeah well of course destroyed second amendment completely right here it is and uh... i don't know if the governor has signed this or not you know I need to find that out exactly whether this is officially a uh... I wish he would because, im going try to find out too its H House Bill 2901 I love Mike Hanson Archives

1:26:39 Did you get that? Look there's an army person there. Yeah, I got that. Wake up or we're going! Well here we are on 195 where they've got some of the military out at accidents and things... The military now work with a local law enforcement We're gonna try to talk to some of them without interfering with the accident scene Military personnel out here. Do you know why they were out here? No, I have no idea. Working on the back of the rescue vehicle. I assume that because when they left she got in the back of a vehicle so i guess she was riding with them

1:27:26 As far as I know. Well, we've been told and we just happened to run into this accident We couldn't get our cameras out in time. We saw some military personnel and they're gone now You said you saw one of them at least getting on the back of the ambulance? I think one of them was working on a rescue vehicle That's also what I saw So they have military personnel in the rescue vehicles? I assume so I have no idea because like I say when I walked up she was getting up in the back I saw that she was wearing gloves. Right, right. That's the same thing I saw. She was dressed like the paramedics except they were in blue and she was in military. In BDU's? Right. We're told now that the military patrols this road I've heard that, I read it in the paper so i couldn't really say. I don't really know What newspaper did you read it in? Colleen Daly Herald And I saw on the news channel, I forget what channel was They showed it on the news about they were going to start having a military police rider with uh...I guess state troopers With the state troopers Yeah, I guess That's how I understood it on TV Thanks alot sir

1:28:30 Where from? Retired Staff Sergeant Stanley G. Casey So Sergeant... Retired. I understand, what's your name? Sir what is your name? Retired Staff Sergeant Stanley G. Kaysen And you live out here outside Colleen? I live right down here in Creek Place Drive and you were telling us earlier that you did read in the papers that they have military now patrolling this road here Well from what I understand it was way they had on the news that they're going to have the military police riding along with state troopers That's the way I understood Now as far as military patrol, they don't be here because I think they're just riding with the highway patrol. Just get the highway patrol and military working together? That's exactly what we are trying to do right now. Just start creating a relationship? I assume so yes Is that what you read in the newspaper?

1:29:21 Yeah, that and then there's also like I said it was on the news they had on one of the child operatives which one it was. They're trying to save the soldiers you know if you got your soldier out here...I mean they can't do any good in combat doing their job if they are laying outside the road Well but how is it Camp Estate Troopers? How is going to help The state troopers have police riding along. Don't state troopers have jurisdiction over people on the road? I don't know, I guess the commander of Fort Hood and Bell Canyon must've come up with some kind of agreement. I couldn't tell you, I really don't know. Thanks a lot sir! You're welcome, appreciate it. Come on baby. She was running when she saw that camera

1:30:28 That's enough, Mike. How you officers doing? I've got a little cable TV show, also make documentaries and we're doing one on the wrecks up and down here. We heard that there's big upsurge of wrecks out here on this highway. Is that true?

1:31:42 Who are y'all with? Well, I've got a radio show on KJFK in Austin 98.9 FM my name is Alex Jones and we also have a cable TV show We're just curious uh...we hear that the military's been doing some patrols um..on some of the roads with ya'll So the clean paper was incorrect? Well they've been talking to the generals but As of right now, there's no military patrol out here. They don't have the jurisdiction to work this road So they've been talking to the generals Who has been talking with the generals? Well our colonel...the colonel of DPS has been talking with a general out here So the clean paper was incorrect saying that patrols are going on and that they're riding along with y'all? Possibly in future That is not something that is occurring right now So it's possible in the future for this

1:32:34 But it's not happening right now? No. They haven't just been riding with you all to see what it might be like? Not at this point, not right now. You're saying that there is a jurisdictional problem? Right because the military has control of the military base and this is not a military road so all they can do is ride along as observed if they don't have any jurisdiction to enforce Why would the military be wanting, why would your colonel be talking to the military general and trying to find out a way to do that? What's the reason what would the military be doing out here if they who wants it where is the initiative coming from. To be honest I really couldn't tell you just trying to find a way there are alot of wrecks out here in the military we're trying

1:33:28 Find a meeting in there so we don't have any wrecks involving the military out here. Don't y'all have jurisdiction over this? I mean, just put a few more DPS out here? We work this road every day eight hours a day 24-7. I'm out here eight hours a day been out here ever since lunchtime What i'm saying is if somebody does something illegal doesn't matter they're in the military they're off the base it's your jurisdiction Correct correct but we can't stop a guy driving down the road just because he's in the military and say you can be driving on here trying to make this off limits to all military personnel. They can go a different route, to go from Killeen to Austin or back and forth- Just to cut back on the traffic? No basically to keep a lot of the military guys from being involved in accidents but we can't as officers stop people unless they commit violation of law

1:34:17 Just because you're driving down the road in fatigue doesn't mean that we can stop you and say, hey, you know what? We have business driving around out here. Because they have just as much right to decide whether you do or I do it. Oh so what your saying is that they are going to put military law onto this road just for the military? Well no they can't What their trying to do is restrict it just like a business If you had a business in Austin where say 30 soldiers were arrested last month In less than reputable circumstances The general out here in Fort Hood can place that business off limits to all military personnel. He has the right to do that, he can give them a direct order and says you cannot go there but as far as the public highway, he can't say hey, you can't drive down this road. Was this wrecked by a military person? Yes sir We saw some military personnel with emergency vehicles They were just assistants people who were coming through to stop this That was clean EMS

1:35:13 Oh, so Kalina EMS does have some military on board? No sir. They had some people along that had stopped and were assisting. Kalina EMS are full-time paid EMS personnel. So basically last question and I do appreciate y'all's time your trooper... Meekston here. Meekston here. Stiles Thanks a lot. Basically, the last question is just to go back right now your colonel who was your colonel at the DPS in this area? Dudley Thomas. That's what I'm saying. Colonel Dudley Thomas is speaking with the general that yes for what they're doing there and they're trying to mediate solutions of the lower number of accidents responding to on the roadway this year and grew up here ever since I've been a kid

1:35:59 our primary accidents that involve military forces. That's just the way it has always been. So basically they're trying to find a way to give you all the authority to give them tickets? Or take them to jail? No, what their trying to do is lower the number of accidents that there involved in. But I'm asking what's the mechanism to do that? Basically, this is a safe road if you drive the speed limit and don't try to pass in no-passing zones. You can drive up and down this road at the maximum speed limit all day and never have any problem whenever you have a lot of people that are exceeding the speed limit trying to pass in no passing zone it's not going to work on two lane roadway like this See that where I'm confused officer

1:36:46 You say you can't pull them over for just being in fatigue. I understand that, but if they're breaking the law you can pull them over and if they're driving a reckless you take him to jail so why does the military even need to be involved? Where is the problem? That's between our boss and their boss. That's something that they are working on trying lower down the number of actions we want to come out here with So from what you've heard, it's basically coming from the military to the state level to the colonel. They would like to have their people out here? I think it is a mediation of both Our colonel wants to see the number of accidents that occur out here lower. And the commanding general of Fort Hood is visibly upset because he has a lot of soldiers getting injured and killed in accidents on this road, in particular. It's not just this road but in this road in particular we've had a lot of accidents over years. High volume, low speed, a lot hills, people think they can go fast

1:37:43 Well, really you can't. You can drive at 70 miles an hour is plenty! That's plenty fast out here and that's what I'm saying you get on this road at 70 miles an hour and drive from here to I-35 without having a problem but when you exceed 70 and start passing no passing zones then your going to have problems. At 70 it's max not every vehicle out here drives 70 miles per hour. You may have to pass them if its going 60. I've just been trying to find out exactly where the idea came from, exactly. Like who made the initial contact with DPS or did DPS contact military? I don't know on that because all we do is work out here you know if they call me up tonight and tell me i need to work on 190 tomorrow I'll go work on 190 but this has been my primary responsibility for the last

1:38:34 Two years to work this highway. And you see the number of accidents increase? No, not necessarily We've had an extraordinary number of fatalities this year but we're working about the same volume of accidents that we've always worked out here But it's just now they are looking for ways to cut down on the accidents Yes What is this right here? A mic Just like yours Exactly the same So basically yall just hit a button and it starts recording? Right What's it hooked too Oh, that's fantastic. What is that for? Like interviews and ride out for accidents and things? It covers a lot of stuff basically. These are good mics for cheap too, I've got the same one on there. Yeah well on the DWIs and stuff like that we can do a standardized sobriety test On the roadside out you know in the public and let a jury actually... Were you told this by any of your officers? No sir Where'd you hear about it? Just speculation from other soldiers sir Oh other soldiers heard about it Yes So you just got word-of-mouth from others Right sir Basically why were you told that this was going to be done

1:39:39 Because 195 is a dangerous place to be driving. But why can't the DPS just do it? Why can't the normal authorities do it? I couldn't answer on that, sir. When did you first hear about this? Monday. Monday. But you haven't got any word yet from your superiors? No, sir. And have y'all heard any of the information that we read in the Colleen paper last week about MPs riding with the Department of Public Safety and the state police out on the roads? I really haven't heard much because I've been out of town... You haven't heard about it? I really haven't heard anything. Have you heard about it, sir? No, sir. Not really. Not really? Have you heard anything?

1:40:22 I've heard about the accident myself, but I really haven't heard about the full details regarding the MPs riding along with the police. The full details? You haven't heard about the full details? Have you hear anything? Yes, I have heard about the MPs riding along with local law enforcement agencies just to identify any soldiers that may be committing traffic violations But my only question is this When y'all are out on the roads Y'all do not drive with impunity A local police officer of any time that you're in, they can still give you a ticket even though your uniform correct? Oh absolutely. They can give you a ticket but the MPs are just there to identify the soldiers and once those soldiers have been identified they will have to respond and let their chain-of-command know why they were committing any traffic violations especially on that road. Think about my question I understand what your saying sir My question is this if police could already treat

1:41:21 person who's in the military exactly the way they treat anybody else and you're under the same laws as you yourself said when your out on the road then why do you think they want MPs riding outside of base all around highways? Well I really don't know the full details and the full purpose behind it. You would have to ask somebody that actually implements this system, man. I'm not a subject matter expert on laws around here But basically you have heard that they have MPs running around? Somewhat yes And that's outside the base? Outside the base, yes. Well again... well here we are at a World War II remnant now they actually use these through Korea and even some in Vietnam I'm told but this is a German designed half-track used by the U.S government We just copied their design The Germans invented the half track mainly in suppressing populations

1:42:23 You name it. But you see, as the decades have progressed countries have come up with much better forms of urban control We're going to go over here and show you some armored personnel carriers The heavy ones that are being bought by the DPS To make sure everybody here in the Clinton administration understands That its real enemy is the American people Because we just don't want to be slaves So we'll go over here and show you the armored personnel carrier developed and pioneered by the Germans to suppress populations. And this World War II design, but this is a US model has now turned into things much more powerful that can handle a lot more attack when they're busy suppressing urban populations That's what these are ideal for and were first designed for It's just a very happy trend that we have these moving into our local law enforcement

1:43:16 Start over. It was Secretary of Defense William Cohen, around three months ago in Army Times came out and said that he never thought he would envision a time when armored personnel carriers would need to patrol the streets of America. Well this is a nightmare. This is actually a German design of hat track which was adapted by the US military and in service right through Korea and even into early Vietnam. This is a US halftrack, an early design of an armored personnel carrier mainly to suppress urban areas. Mainly in the Warsaw ghetto Germans really employed these. They're excellent again for urban control and smashing through resistance generally to tyranny this is a tool of government that has people that are acting up

1:44:14 But hey, don't worry. Your local law enforcement just isn't getting weapons of this nature... They're getting the new models! The six-wheel and more armored personnel carriers Let's go show you a heavy armored personnel carrier which most most big city police departments are getting with their help from the military. They're giving them free and then the military drops by trains with them so I hope you all enjoy the trend here in modern America today again for suppressing the general population And Secretary of Defense William Cohen is very excited. He says that, again a quote from him is he would never envision a day when these would have to be used in downtown cities well he says now that day has come it's not a question if but when terrorism coming hmm I wonder who will engage the terrorism to declare police state

1:45:09 Hitler did that same thing in 1933 by burning the Reichstag. I'd all repeat that at the Aussie, but the only people to stand a game about terrorism is the command and controllers—the big government people! They need you to be in fear. Problem-reaction solution... The Hagelian principle Now, lest you think that the US military and federal government only give local law enforcement or only loan local law enforcement hand-me-downs old helicopters, old armored personnel carriers... No no no. Here is the Abrams M1A battle tank out here at Fort Hood

1:45:46 The very base back in 1993, April 19th where they took these beasts several of them at least three from the data I've got we have video of these babies driving around the house and ramming into it along with Bradley fighting vehicles. So they give him the best only the best against US citizens Abrams M1A frontline battle tank the world's premier battle tank Thank you Bill Clinton. I just can't say it enough, loving Bill Clinton cares about you So again lest you think that they just get the hand-me downs to stave off these dangerous citizenry Oh no! They get the best Now let's go look at some of the other armored personnel carriers that the military has been handing out like candy and then we'll show you some footage of other armored personnel carriers That your local law enforcement has Armored Personnel Carrier This one is Soviet

1:46:45 They don't have very many US armed personnel carriers out here, the newer models that our local law enforcement are getting free of charge. They're just trying to help remember that? Just trying to help on our highways now with our local police it's really a great thing somebody told me that's called a police state And of course, here's another armored personnel carrier. Take good care of you. This is from another foreign country where it's no big deal to see armored personnel carriers going down the street to keep you safe but why does America have to be like all the other third world nations? Oh I forgot! President Clinton... The BT-76 was developed by the Russians but it was also produced in China and many other countries

1:47:38 piece of garbage. But see, they don't have to worry about that anymore. They just get given all our plans and all our diagrams by President Clinton it's a fantastic policy again helping the commies again helping the socialists and communists and command controllers That's Bill Clinton's middle name Patrolling your streets, it's already begun. We have nothing against the military but this is out of control Please just to set the record straight This is very important The military just doesn't give local law enforcement

1:48:26 and lone local law enforcement, hand-me-downs and old type vehicles. They gave them the newest, the Abrams M1A frontline battle tank came directly from Fort Hood, directly from the base we're standing on right now And three of them were delivered to FBI HRT hostage rescue teams and they did use them on day 51 in 1993 in a fiery conflagration in Waco Texas So again, they'll use anything on the public. Again, the Abrams M1A battle tank. Mike give them another shot of that loving piece of law enforcement equipment. I thought it was peace officer or peacekeeper? No it's loving law enforcement. One their newest tools because they care about citizens so much Here we have the M113A2 armored personnel carrier APC

1:49:22 If we don't stand up, if we don't speak out, then were going to have to get used to this. Already again in the Kalina area you've seen the DPS officers, you've seen the military people, the MPs refusing to talk about it but they would admit that this is going on. Military police patrolling outside of the base on major highways with the DPS. The DPS has a giant investigation arm and intelligence arm left over from the Cold War, now they have nothing to do except watch us the citizens. The information gathering network is up and going full steam ahead. Military police! We're not getting answers

1:50:03 Here we have the M61 main battle tank before the Abrams, not good enough to go up against a wooden structure filled with men women and children. The FBI had falsified warrants that said they had speed labs and illegal firearms. They BATF said they had AK-47s with upper lower receiver there is no upper or lower receiver it's gas powered semi-automatic weapon. The Mac 90s is actually what they had, but it didn't matter They needed to demonize some people test the American public and this just wasn't good enough They had to have the Abrams Well here we are at the Texas Department of Public Safety right off Runburg on 35 And we're going to go back and show you some other personnel carriers now What's going on with DPS in the military? I really want to find out

1:50:59 The DPS was established in 1936 by Franklin Delano Roosevelt. It's really a federal police force, they have their own intelligence gathering network on subversives I hope you all feel safe guys They sure felt safe at Waco Oh there it is! We're told there's even more Come on Mike let's get a close up of it Beautiful beautiful day A beautiful day for an armored personnel carrier. Now, Steve Lane saw them bringing in two six-wheeled ones earlier this month but they were not brought here and they say DPS on the side Let's try to go around the back and see if there are others Well well well! There we have it An armored personnel carrier That is a four wheel one Steve Lane saw some six wheeled ones The big heavy type coming in There they have a nice communication tower So get their federal orders

1:52:07 Very very interesting. I feel safer already, I thought it's illegal to have military operations and to work with the military But hell the Constitution old document shit now China That's a country that's got a constitution They've got plenty of those in fact they used them in Tiananmen Square didn't they? Well again just to repeat Steve Lane and Mike Hanson saw well, I'm a little bit disappointed we came around the back and we can only show you the two armored personnel carriers and not the large six-wheeled ones. As if those are not scary enough, something out of the movie Red Dawn! And I'll almost guarantee you that is NOT a US made armored personnel carrier...I'l have to look in Jane's weapons dictionary to find out but unbelievable so there you have it keeping you safe armoured personnel carrier

1:53:02 Just to make sure that everybody's good and everybody is loving. And the two large six-wheel black ones, that are roughly twice that size or twice that length... Those are not here! Again some of my good friends Mike and Steve, Steve Lane saw them being brought in but we got her too late We have no idea where they're super powerful slave machines have been taken Let's try get a shot Mike at the other one so you can get both of them in the picture. Tell them what we're doing or how to do it. We had to get it over the fence. Well, sorry about this camera work The cameras blurring look between the fence but there's the back end of the one we showed you earlier And there's the other loving machinery over there number 59 and we don't know again where the large black six wheeled ones are Let's say dps swat on the side. We just saw them being offloaded or actually mike and steve did so well We're trying to get you this shot right now It's kind of hard to do having a hold camera up over the fence

1:54:02 but because it was blurring looking through the fence. These are just two of them, we've seen two others being delivered to again six-wheeled even larger armored personnel carriers and of course Austin APD has them and Travis has them everybody has them. Just God they love us! Hope you enjoy it What are they going to use these for? They only used in Waco what are they gonna use these for What are they going to use these for? They only used them in Waco. And what was the result of that, saving the 17 little children? What's the terminology? What is being taught to our law enforcement? Why are they not peace officers anymore?" Unbelievable! Well this is the Department of Public Safety if you can call it that and uh...they're militarizing and their doing traffic stops routine traffic stops in a hill country now with the police

1:55:01 Mike, you can get on your tiptoes and shoot through there. A lot of love guys! I should add this camera works a little bad because we're here getting it through the fence standing on the edge about a six inch ledge. I got it. I got it like that too while ago. Come on let's come down here. The key is you cant zoom in all the way but you can zoom in most of it. I know I did. Mike get... Let's cut around this way so we can get to back of it. Climb back up.

1:56:05 Come down here and hand it to me. What we do for these idiots? And it's green too, what are they trying to hide from Where are them other black men? I don't know what they did with the black men. They might have took them over to that other place, you think? They were new and they were delivering them here. Say DPS? No it said SWAT on it. Where'd you see him taking em too? Here! We were coming down the highway and almost swerved off the damn road. I saw it so what the hell man?! I swear to God he was behind me and he saw it too. Hey he can talk about that tonight. He's causing a big story. Verify it. I can't see nothing from here. Hold on let me see that... hold that up

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