Saturday, 27 February 2021

Taking A Tactical Chunder - The Wrap Up #29

From the resilience of veteran Mark Ormrod to the nostalgia of 90s rock icons, this session navigates the roadmap out of lockdown and the chaos of fatherhood.

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By The Jonnie Jensen Show | 1h 16m listen | 15 chapters
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About this episode

Boris Johnson announced the roadmap for reopening British schools this week, prompting a media debut for the children of the Team Super Dad collective on the BBC. As the United Kingdom prepares for the June 21st lifting of lockdown restrictions, the podcast welcomes Glenn from Dating Dad alongside newcomers Colin Hudson and Rich to analyze the cultural shift toward a post-pandemic summer. The group evaluates the potential for a second Roaring Twenties fueled by the return of live events like the Reading Festival and the Euro football tournament.

Mark Ormrod, the triple-amputee Afghanistan veteran and Invictus Games medalist, serves as a focal point for resilience after a viral video showed him refusing assistance during a fall. Support for the RE-ORG charity remains a priority as the hosts pivot to lighter fare, including the logistics of the Tottenham Hotspur stadium bottom-up beer technology and the rules of a London Monopoly pub crawl. The conversation moves through 1990s nostalgia, citing the stage presence of Skin from Skunk Anansie and the impact of Alanis Morissette’s Jagged Little Pill. Additional mentions include Wendy James of Transvision Vamp, Gail Porter, and the awkward reality TV history of filming The Villa for Sky TV in Spain.

Personal mishaps provide the comedic backbone of the session, from a cyclist wiping out in a Costco car park to a blindfolded garden game that left one father in a fetal position. Between stories of Jensen Button and Formula 1 road trips to the Barcelona Grand Prix, the group captures the chaotic energy of modern fatherhood. The session concludes with a debate on the North-South divide and the tactical utility of pancakes used as indoor frisbees.


CHAPTER 01 / 15 Discussion

Team Super Dad Podcast Introduction and Guest Welcome

The host introduces the Team Super Dad podcast, welcoming regular guest Glenn from Dating Dad and newcomers Colin Hudson and Rich. The group discusses the transition from earlier expert hangouts to a more casual sports-podcast format. The conversation highlights the growth of the show's audience, which is approaching one thousand listeners per episode.

team super dad· glenn· colin hudson· dating dad· podcasting

00:00 It's that time of the week and that can only mean one thing. Yes, welcome. It's the wrap-up this week with even more hosts, Roll Theme. Welcome to Team Super Dad. Real Dads creating their best lives ever. More time, more money, more fun. You are not alone. You're on Team Super Dad. Hey gang, it is the wrap up. What's going on here? And if we just give that a little bit, wherever it comes in, big style, look at that. For our regular listening, I'll put a fucking bring the logo in.

00:47 Put a logo right on Colin's face. I need to make, I need to make a little three-way template. Not that three-way is the kind of language you use when you've got four blokes throughout the day. Friday night, Johnny. But yeah, listen, for any of our regular guests, if you're listening, then you won't be able to see we have extra people on the wrap-up tonight. But if you're watching, because we do have lots of people who watch the live, then welcome to the wrap-up. Tonight, my esteemed and regular guest, Glenn, at a dating dad, good to see you, Glenn. I thought that was like a Harry Enfield moment. I thought he was just doing a

01:34 Mr. Steele guy, you know. But anyway. I literally were on this all day, every day. And the minute a couple of northerners come on, it gets slow. I mean, you're kind of draining the energy from my southern power here. It's because they need to. We just bring in balance, mate. That's all. It's just with a ying to your yang, mate. Absolutely perfect. So anyone that went to uni with me, you might have recognized that voice. That is the very esteemed Mr. Colin Hudson. Carl, good to see you. Good to see you, Johnny.

02:14 Thanks for inviting us. You're welcome. And you have brought a friend along with you. Rich, good to see. I've just first of all I've met you, but good to see you, Rich. Yeah, thanks, mate. Yeah, you too. He just literally turned up for a couple. Oh, whilst you're here, you fancy joining in on the podcast. Yeah, why not? That's good. We have watches in the hundreds and the listens are cranking up towards a thousand a show now. So that's pretty awesome. And what was I going to say? Oh, yeah. So listen, so for our regulars, right? This is quite new, right? Having four people on at once.

02:55 You might remember some of the earlier episodes of the Team Superdad podcast. We did an expert hangout where I had like five or six different experts on. And it was quite tricky to manage. So I kind of reined it back in. And I always had a plan to do the wrap-up as a group, like a sports sort of podcast type thing. And Glenn and I were doing so well that we never expanded it. But Colin, you used to do a radio show and podcast called The Bunker, which was awesome. I knew it'd be good to get you on. What was the bunker about? Oh, the bunker started off as a great way of wasting Friday afternoons under the official guise of work.

03:35 I had the best boss ever who was totally into his tunes and what have you. So on Friday afternoons, he quite happily let me work from home where we'd fashioned like 25, 20 years ago, way before all this media proliferation and all that, that we cobbled together a real media server. And being an internet engineer, we'd figured out a way of sneaking through firewalls so that a few of our mates could sit at the desks, log on to this private link, and we'd just be DJing all afternoon. And then like fast forward 20 years, and everyone's doing internet radio. It's like, really? We were so there for us. You stopped too. You up, buddy?

04:19 You stopped too soon. Like you, like by the time you were worn out from it, it was in and everyone else was just getting started. Do you know what, mate? We did. I think we did about 10 years on My House, Your House Radio from the very start. And we sort of took it from just the bedroom DJs, plugging in, just playing tunes. We went full BBC on it, room full of people, loads and loads of gear, microphones, guest DJs, like stupid games, all sorts of stuff. It was pioneering stuff. We actually played a true story, rock, paper, scissors for the radio. It was funny. It was absolutely funny. And can people still listen to it on SoundCloud? SoundCloud?

05:01 I think the I think the bunker archives are actually still all up. Soundcloud.com/slash the bunker show, I think it is, you know, and there should still be quite a lot of the shows up there. But yeah, it was good times, mate. Good music as well. Good people. Yeah, if you like your old kind of house, good times, house. Well, yeah, go and listen to the bunker show. Search up the bunker show on SoundCloud. How old are we talking, Johnny? Because I watch human traffic for the first time in ages this week. Are we talking pre-human traffic era? Let's have a thing. So it'll have been

05:45 almost human traffic, late 90s, human traffic. 99, yes. I'm still here. Yeah, go on. In that case, we would probably have been like late. So I'll have been like 2000, 2001, something like that. We started doing the bunker show. We've not been doing it for a few years now, but yeah, it was about, it was early 2000s. It was not long after I moved into this house, to be fair. So yeah, that was 20 years. Wow, 20 years ago. That's how old we are. Yes. And you're all 20 years more mature and grown up, I'm sure. Yes.

06:30 I can vouch for that not being the case. So if I was mature and grown up, we wouldn't be friends. You know that. Yes, it would be terrible. Yes. Everything would be the fabric of society, like the universe, the fabric of the universe, Fray. No, no, no. This is what we do on the wrap-up. Anyone who's joining us for the first time, thank you for being here. This is the end of our week, right? In days gone by, we'd have sat in the pub and got absolutely before stumbling, or worse, in my dad's days, driving home. What do you mean, drink driving? I've had a drink. Of course, I'm driving home. No, but now, you know, we can't even go out now, let alone flipping, drink, drive ourselves into oblivion.

07:15 But we do hang out. We do get this podcast out into people's lives so that whether they're driving somewhere, cooking, mowing the lawn, Glenn took the piss out of me tragically for mentioning mowing the lawn. But I used to listen to podcasts, mowing the lawn. What more can you do when you're mowing the lawn? But yeah, bit of a laugh, bit of a piss take. And to sort of men hanging out, like this isn't only about single dads, but we are aware that men sometimes find themselves home alone. And what better way to entertain and support them by bringing the wrap up to them? Yes, mate. I couldn't agree more. Cheers. Cheers, boys. Men, gents, reprobates.

CHAPTER 02 / 15 Discussion

Global Recognition and Media Appearances

A story is shared regarding a chance encounter in a Southeast Asian dive bar where a traveler recognized a host's name, leading to a discussion on being "world famous." One participant describes his children's recent media debut on the BBC, where they provided commentary on Boris Johnson's plan for reopening schools. The group reflects on the pressures of media training and public appearances.

walthamstow· thailand· boris johnson· bbc· media training

07:59 So if you're listening, then give us a like, send us a review, share this around. If you're watching live right now, then do the same. You can comment. People are listening to us. I was chatting to a friend. She was visiting her bubble over in Shingford. And she was chatting to him. And the husband turned around and said, I saw your mate the other day. Yeah, he was on that wrap-up thingy on Facebook. So, hi, Dan. Good to have you here. Dan, Dan. How's it going, man? That did make me think, you know what, that makes us basically world famous. But it did make me, it reminded me of actually something where I legitimately think about it and think, am I world famous?

08:45 Because apparently I was my friend, he was out in Thailand or something like that, Vietnam. And it was in this just random dive bar in the middle of nowhere and chatting to the locals, got chatting to this American sitting next to him. And she said, where are you from? And I'm not even going to do the accent because I've not had enough rum yet. She said, where are you from? He said, I'm from England. Oh, I've been to England. I'm from London. I've been to London. Where have you been? Well, I'm from Walthamstow. I know someone in Walthamstow. Do you? Yeah. His name's not Glenn, is it? Yeah. It turns out that this American was someone that I met traveling when I was in South Africa and then ended up catching up with her and spending some time with her in New York a few years later.

09:31 And just she happened to be traveling in a random part of the world where one of my mates was. I think that genuinely makes me world famous. I agree, mate. It does. Absolutely world famous. Definitely. It's not even six degrees of vacuum, that is it? No, no, fully, fully world famous, mate. I mean, that was the one thing that we used to cling to when we started doing the bunker. bunker like years ago, me and Dolls like that. Mate, all this radio, wild national radio, blah, blah, blah. We're broadcast into the world, the internet. The whole thing went legit. Yeah, I'll make you famous. What's that mean? One way or another.

10:16 Yeah, well, I was on the villa on the TV show, The Villa, and because that's it. I was getting text messages from people in Australia going, I'm in a bar, you're on the TV, you're naked, drunk, and what the hell's going on? And Johnny, that was some of your finest work, mate, serialized and broadcast by Sky TV. I mean, come on, really discover legend, mate. You can't, I can't knock you, obviously, because I've you do know I've done myself. You've done what you said. Get away. I've done, yeah, I was on, I was literally on BBC this week.

10:58 Um, I've been trying to explain to my neighbours that I'm not actually famous or anything, but yeah, my kids, um, well, no, they've all been on telly with me a few times, but um, my eldest two made their uh, their speaking debuts doing some commentary on Boris Johnson's opening up the schools plan and so on. So, got them there with a rig in front of them and a proper boom mic and stuff. I was really proud of them, it was good. None of them, none of them threw up in nerves and fright. So, you know, I'm training them well. Yes, mate, media trading, very, uh, very savvy. I threw my guts up horrifically about occasions in that program. So, was this

CHAPTER 03 / 15 Discussion

Reality TV Experience on The Villa

A host recounts his experience filming a reality dating show called The Villa in Spain for Sky TV. He details the awkwardness of not telling his family or his current girlfriend about the show until he was on his way to Heathrow Airport. The anecdote concludes with the fallout of leaving a voicemail for his girlfriend and the lack of a romantic match during the production.

sky tv· spain· reality television· dating show· heathrow airport

11:41 a brand um uh throwing up, or was this some sort of pre-nerves kind of tactical chanda? No, it's on our list. What a brilliant segue there, Glenn. But no, brilliant, brilliant. The uh, I see what's on there. No, the the the experience of being on a TV show is brilliant. It says, uh, I got an email, it says, Do you want to be on TV? Do you want to have a free holiday meet the woman of your dreams and go on TV? I was like, Yes, yes, and bloody hell, yes. And uh, and so then I'd go and meet the people, which was just like a flipping five-minute Johnny show with someone having a coffee.

12:26 I was like, This is going to be easy, just entertain a bit of a piece of cake for you that mate, surely entertain this woman will be on. And then I got the invite, and uh, so the only clanger about it was that I was dating a pretty awesome woman called Caroline. We'll call her Caroline because that's her name. And uh, and this is a funny story. We have laughed about this. So, Caroline, if you're listening, A, I'm sorry, and B, thanks for being awesome. So, she goes, So, I was trying to work out a way of telling that, right? So, I got like I had two weeks before, right?

13:08 And then I had 10 days, and then I had a week, right? And then I was just like, This is really difficult. I wasn't able to tell anyone I was going on it, I wasn't able to tell anyone I was going on it. So, I didn't tell my family, I didn't tell uh, I didn't tell when you two stopped fiddling around with that. I'll put it, put your microphone back on. Um, just tell me the phone, go on, Caroline. Yeah, yeah. So, um, so anyway, I didn't. So, I told my mates like three nights before I was leaving, my housemate. And then, then I'm like, I'm like, okay, I'm gonna have to ring. I'm gonna have to ring her. I'm on the way to Heathrow, right? I'm on the way to Heathrow. Are we talking about your girlfriend here?

13:49 You haven't told her that you're appearing on a world, the program is about to be broadcast via satellite to the world where you're supposed to date other girls. Just for clarity, the last person you're about to tell on the way to the airport is your girlfriend. Yeah, current girlfriend. When you put it like that, it does seem pretty bad. Yeah, now you mention it. When you break it down, I can see what you're saying. I can see what you're saying, right? So, so I love you, both. So, I've got a voicemail, right?

14:30 I'm like, oh shit, voicemail. So, I said, All right, it's all right. When I get off the tube, I'll ring her. I'll ring her. I've got the guts now, I've got the guts to do it. Like, get asked to choose a voicemail. I was like, oh shit, okay. So, I left her a voice message. Really sorry. I'm going to Spain. Spain on the villa with Skye. I'll be back in a week. Sorry. See you then. So apparently my flatmates told me they got a phone call from her quite later that evening going, where's Johnny? Who the fuck is Skye? And what villa are they going to?

15:12 Dude, and you were the most pissed man on national TV for a good few weeks as well. So you actually found love then and it was all worthwhile in the end. The fun was worthwhile. I didn't get matched up. I got matched up really badly. She just didn't seem like a mat. In fact, I make a wise crack at the end. I don't think I'll be spoiling it for you. So my pun slash joke when they revealed was I said, she must be asthmatic. It was the only thing I could think of that hadn't come out during the week of being together. Like, what's the reason? Oh, you're both asthmatic. Okay, great. That's why we put you together.

15:57 Johnny, I've known you for 30 years. Are you telling me you're asthmatic? I can put it down, yeah, but I don't necessarily suffer from it. Some of the shit I've seen you do, there's like no way you can be asthmatic. No way. Can we do three? That's why I've got such big lungs. I can have large lung capacity. Your fucking Lance Armstrong had big lungs, mate. Ah, the good old days, the good old days. Imagine what three bongs in a row would do to you right now. That'd be amazing. So tactical chandas, right? Back to the point, right? It wasn't tactical, right? We're playing a drinking game.

CHAPTER 04 / 15 Discussion

Tactical Chunda and Drinking Culture

The group debates the concept of the "tactical chunda," a practice of intentional vomiting to continue drinking during a night out. They discuss the physical limitations of drinking pints of beer versus spirits like rum and the logistics of bathroom breaks at football stadiums. A specific mention is made of the bottom-up beer filling technology used at the Tottenham Hotspur stadium.

drinking games· tactical chunda· tottenham hotspur· beer· spirits

16:39 Drinking games, I'm always the worst at. You know, the one where you have to, you know, like you have to drink with one hand? That's what gets me every time. When this is all over, I am absolutely noting that piece of information. And we are going to play not only drinking games, but drinking games with forfeits because this could get fun. So I'm going to put the DVD on YouTube because people have been asking me to put it on YouTube. And we're dressed up in safari kind of. We had to make outfits out of stuff we could find around the villa. So we made outfits out of all reeds and things. So we look like we look like Hawaiian kind of like cavemen, basically.

17:20 And this drinking game ensued. And I should have taken a tactical chanda for any of our listeners, right? Because the question I was going to ask people was, is the tactical chanda a regular thing, a normal thing? You know, like you're out and you're out on a good night out. It gets to a certain point. You've been out about three hours. You're feeling a bit like worse for wear. So the obvious thing to do is go and throw up so that you can go again, basically. Okay, Johnny, given that we have the standard The Internet two seconds delay, for the benefit of the, we're making notes now.

17:58 Yeah. We're going to raise them at the end. I asked someone the other day and they were like, tactical chanda, what are you talking about? How can you not know what it is? I'll show you what's up written, Johnny. There's all sorts of health risks. This is a dark area. However, I am fully with you on the tactical chunda. Not something that I think I've partaken of myself knowingly. But I do know people that actually is halfway through the night, tactical chunda, and they just appear again, looking fresh, and you're like, where has those 10 pints gone?

18:45 Because I can barely move. And then that's one of my issues. One of my issues is the fact that beer takes up a lot of space. I'm getting feedback. I'm not the only one getting feedback here. All right. I just turned off Colin's mic. It's Colin's mate. It's fine. But yeah, beer takes up a lot of room inside you. My old man, when we go to the football, he can sit there and he'll just drink pint after pint after pint after pint. We'll go through six, seven, eight, nine pints before the match, another couple at half time, another couple afterwards. He might take one piss the entire time. How does that? Where does it go? I mean, how does it fit inside you? I mean, I reckon I can fit at most

19:27 three quarters, maybe a pint, a pint of beer inside me, your bladder at any one stage. So then it just becomes like a nightclub where you've got one in, one out. I don't want to keep going to the bloody toilet all the time. That's why I enjoy rum a lot more. But yeah, when you're out and you're on the beers, that. that's when you start getting thinking, you know what? I can't get this out quick enough. Do I just need to tactical and then start again? Or do I just have to accept the fact that I'm going to be pissing like a racehorse for the next hour? No, you see, it's not about for me, it wasn't about how many pisses I was going to have, absolutely how completely and unbelievably obliteratingly drunk I was.

20:07 And then I would start kind of getting heartburn and burping and like beating on me. So it'd be like, right, what I need to do now, because clearly the wheels are coming off, I'm going to go and have a tactical chanda, which will sort of reset the clock. When I come back, I'm probably going to move on to the Jack Daniels and Coke. Probably. That's probably what's going to happen. You see, I think what you need to do, Glenn, it's all about your approach, mate. And like yourself, I'm not a man that can put away pints after pint. I've been with a bloke this afternoon that literally can just keep drinking them. And they go down like three, four seconds a pint. You like that? My God, Terrence. How do you do that? It's ridiculous. But I'm not that person, Glenn.

20:48 So I've noticed you've got a rum there, my mate. I have indeed. There you go. That should therefore be your mantra as you set off. Don't get drawn into this whole men drink pints. I tend to drink bottles of a fancy lager. Otherwise, it's like brandies or vodkas or like yourself, rums, you know what I mean? And if you have it with the fruit juice, it's also one of your five a day. Oh, this is health tips. This is basically giving me some sort of inside cleansing and that sort of thing. I'm going to feel happier as a result of this. The only trouble with acting, normally on a night out, absolutely, I'm with you. But for one weird reason, football stadiums don't tend to observe spirits.

21:30 I don't know why. Just like Johnny, I'm a song. I'm a rounder as well at the bar, don't you? Like that, you want a what? A vodka. And even if they did, I'm still such a child that when I go to the Spurs, you put your beer glass on top and it fills up from the bottom. I still think it's magic and I'm a sucker for that. I'll buy pint after pint just to watch and pour the thing. I'd probably be tempted to go to a Tottenham game just to see that. Rich, that's a very, very good point. You'd have to be drunk to go to a Tottenham game.

22:13 Rich, Rich. Yeah, you're in the wrong room here, my friend. Well, it's good to have our northern representatives here. We are getting a fresh perspective, not just on health and nutrition, but also sporting. Perfect. We have solved one of the big questions in life: the tactical chandra. It's not just a real thing, but it happens up north, down south. Does it happen in other countries? I feel with the amount of beer our American cousins drink, they must surely do a tactical chander in America. No, I mean, they're massive. They just literally hold it inside them for a couple of months at a time. Okay, so I have a question then: is light beer actually lighter?

CHAPTER 05 / 15 Discussion

Formula 1 Season and Father-Son Bonding

The discussion shifts to Formula 1 racing and the excitement for the upcoming season. One host shares an anecdote about meeting Jensen Button and failing to get an autograph for his father. They reflect on the importance of "Team Super Dad" values, specifically the experience of taking a road trip with an aging father to the Barcelona Grand Prix.

formula 1· jensen button· barcelona grand prix· gaudi· parenting

22:55 That's what I want to know. So, if you drink like you have to look at your beer consumption in the way an F1 team looks at fuel consumption and start measuring it by the kilo good point, by the way, Glenn and Cole, we have two big F1 fans together here tonight. Hey, three, actually. Yorkshire's an F1 fan. Nice, nice. I'm incredibly excited about the new season. I'm such a fan. My youngest son is called Jensen. And so, yeah, I am so, so excited about the season ahead. I think it's going to be an incredible season. And I can't understand why the entire world isn't as excited as I am. I'm more excited about the F1 than I am about the Euros.

23:39 I think if you're a real man, you'd have called your son Fwangio. Fernando Smith. No, you know what? Speaking of Jensen Button, not last summer, obviously, the summer before after his first book came out. I was working on an event and spent the afternoon with Jensen Button. And I bought my dad Jensen's auto for Christmas like six months earlier. And then he'd finished it, obviously, and gone, yeah, I'll read this. So I was reading it about the time of this event I was working on.

24:16 And I was like, ooh, I'm going to catch up with Jensen. Well, obviously, I'll get me into write a little something in the inside of this book and then give it back to my old man with a little message from Jensen. Do you know what I mean? It was about the time he just had his first frog and spent more time chatting about me dance and booking about than remembering to get his book on my laptop back. So get back and give me dad this book back. And I was like, yeah, nice. bell to read that. That's how it happens. I spent the afternoon with Jansen like last Sunday in the commentary box itself today. Top blog. I had every intention to get him to write your lovely message inside the inside cover review book. However, I completely forgot.

24:58 And it was literally, what, four feet away from me for the whole afternoon? So epic fail. You just asked. It is amazing. It is amazing. It's amazing the things you end up buying your dad and thinking they might like it. I mean, there's things I've bought books and Aussie Ardealer stuff, but I always feel like I should be buying some. I feel like you can buy your kids toys, but you can't buy your dad toys. No, but you see, you can, like, what I did for my old man's birthday a couple of years ago. I bought him the next best thing. I was like, right. So I've got us tickets to the Barcelona Grand Prix.

25:41 I've got us in flights. I've booked a lovely apartment right opposite the Gaudi. And if it's one thing that we do before you leave this planet, we are going to watch a race. So you can do cool things like that with your dads that would be a total pain in the ass if you had to take your kids. I mean, we love them, couldn't eat a full one, but would you want to go to an F1 weekend with your kids? Let's be honest. No, I mean, I'm per weekend. Yeah, yeah. Time and experiences are good. I've been around the world with my old man watching Spurs and watching going to far more a few wins and a couple of losses. And it's always a weird experience. Just drinking, knowing that, you know what, he's just going to be as drunk as I am.

26:23 He's not going to take care of me just because I happen to be his boy. I've got to take care of him because, you know what? Do you know what, though, Glenn, right? We come back, right? And it is like it is team seed, dad. I guess it is relevant. We got back and I got to a point where it was like, how has it taken me like past 40 years to connect with my dad in this way? It was the first time we'd ever done anything, sort of just us. Just me and him, road trip, you know, boys on weekends. And I was like, in a way, you could have looked at it and gone, oh, look at all the stuff we've missed out on. But it was like that. Now that we've figured out this is actually a thing,

27:04 we're going to be doing this on a regular, regular basis. And he is totally looking forward to it. He messages me all the time. We're going to race this year. We're going to race this year. But do you know what, Dad? We definitely are. We definitely are. I can't recommend it enough, mate. No, we're still here. Yeah, how many piss-ups I had with my dad? I don't actually know. My dad's a. I think it's fair to call him a piss head, right? But he's okay. He's okay. He openly says, I've drunk a bottle of wine a day at least for 40 odd years. So, you know, it says, you know, if I was French, it'd be completely normal. And

CHAPTER 06 / 15 Discussion

London Monopoly Pub Crawl Challenge

A participant describes a "Booze Monopoly" challenge involving visiting a pub on every street and station featured on the London Monopoly board. The rules include rolling dice for "chance cards" and pacing oneself with half-pints to survive the 26-stop journey. They highlight a specific old-school Victorian pub on Fenchurch Street that bans mobile phone use.

monopoly· london· pub crawl· fenchurch street· drinking rules

27:49 he's a positive, happy, you know, it's not like he's flipping, sitting there rocking back and forth with his can of flipping tenants. But I'm trying to think of nights out with my dad where we've actually got pissed because I don't actually know. I think he's we've done we've done those as a family as well where I go, my brother will go, my sister will go and so on. We did one year we did Monopoly. Have you ever done Monopoly? Well like Booze Monopoly. Drinking game. No, this is not just a drinking game. This is a drinking game in life. So obviously in Monopoly, because London is the greatest city in the world, Monopoly is based on the London loads of pubs and bars around London.

28:30 So what we've done is realize what you have to do is you have to have a drink in every bar in a bar on every street around the Monopoly board and every station as well. That sounds amazing. I'll be so in for that, mate. Definitely. It's harder than you think. You have to actually only have half a pint or a single or something like that because you're talking 26 different streets and you're going around and at the start you think oh this is easy you know just not going back and go to the next one you've got about half an hour um per bar so at the start you're kind of zigzagging all over london trying to get to the far away ones but then you're kind of spiraling in on the west end and then you end up kind of walking and staggering and and and you end and honestly there are kind of a couple of routes you do it um because you go into a bar and you roll a dice if you get a six you get a chance card and some of those cards are um you know

29:23 what uh you everyone's got to buy you the next round or you've got to go ahead to next place and buy the next round or you might get a get a jail free card which is basically you can have a soft drink i'll tell you what they are gold gold dust. Um, is um, is you'll you'll realize when we did it, there was a kind of a stagdo or two that were doing it at the same time. And they came in. We were at a certain schedule and a pace going through, and so you go in there, you drink it, and you're making sure you're all going through. And they came in, they was roaring, yeah, yeah, we'll do this one, do that. And you could see them being really quick. And then, over the course of the entire day, we just started picking them up one by one where they were just falling asleep in a corner, or they were just kind of staggering, holding a lamp post or something.

30:07 You've got to pace your thing. It's a hard challenge, but it's well worth doing. That's where experience kicks in, isn't it? Really? Tactical chunda. There you go, tactical chunder at Fenchurch Station. Cooking on gas. Nice clean bobs as well. No one's ever heard of Fenchurch Street. That's right. It's clean. Where the fuck is Fenchurch Street? And is there a station on there? Probably not. We're just going to Google it. It's genuinely dusted off of Mincing Lane.

30:51 I'll tell you what, we ended up in a bar. I'm just going to move the thing up there. There you go. That's better. It's not pointing at the lights. We ended up in a bar and so on last year, year before, and it was a fabulous bar. They only served half, right? No matter who you were, what you were. They only served halves. And Jesus, Fenchurch Street is a blinder boys. It's massive. It's a proper one. Right. So you could only have a half. And literally, if you answered a phone call or made a phone call, you were out. It was a proper pub. It was fabulous. No phones. Yep. If that's a drinking game, if that's a drinking game, I'll be out.

CHAPTER 07 / 15 Discussion

Dating Profile Photography and Electric Scooters

The hosts plan a future event to help men take better photos for their dating profiles, noting that most men use poor-quality images. The conversation briefly tangents into the prevalence of electric rental scooters in cities like Liverpool and London, comparing them to "big boy toys" like Segways.

dating profiles· photography· liverpool· electric scooters· dating apps

31:31 You're on the phone, out. Oh, by the way, you answered the phone with your left hand. That means you've got to do three shots of Sambuka on the way out. No, fabulous pub. You should definitely, we should add it too. And Fenchurch Street is like, it's a proper old school Victorian station. It'd be like that. How could you have missed it? Well, we're doing Glenn, we're going to combine that day out with our dating photo shoot, which these about. We've got an idea that we're going to, because people, because blokes on their profiles always have crap photos, yeah. So we're going to Glenn knows a photographer guy who's going to come out with us and he's going to take shots like, you know, so that we've got a good, good,

32:15 and then he can carry on taking photos and we'll turn it into like a like a hangover part four like video sort of like clickbook again. If Joe doesn't end up with at least three fake tattoos, it would have been a waste of an evening. I'll tell you what though, right? You can spice it up by have you got them annoying electric scooters that you can rent in London? Probably. Right. They're all over Liverpool, like scallies just with no idea dressed head to toe like ninjas trying to get run over, tearing around Liverpool on these bloody electric scooters, right? Or they make HSBC, Barclays, hire bikes, whatever they are, right? You should do it on them.

33:00 I've got to say, Segway is definitely a big boy toy. Do you know what? So far as big boys toys go, I think there's bigger. Well, listen, funny you should mention that, guys. This week, this is seamless. Bought my kids' laser tag this week. Absolutely mega. I remember with the actual laser tag. Yeah, so not the brand laser tag. They don't exist anymore, basically. But given, like, given my first laser tag, I bought them back from America when my brother and I were about 12. That's a long time ago to have like light bass.

CHAPTER 08 / 15 Discussion

Laser Tag and Indoor Pancake Frisbee

A host discusses buying laser tag sets for his children and eventually buying extra units so he could participate. This leads to a story about using thick pancakes as indoor frisbees, described as "ninja throwing stars" that are safe for the house. Another anecdote involves a childhood game of throwing fruit at a sibling who had a phobia of certain fruits.

laser tag· ghostbusters· smiths toys· pancakes· childhood games

33:44 Johnny, that's 35 years ago, mate. They haven't invented lasers then. No, they don't. No, no, this isn't one of my made-up nonsense things. Because Glenn's experienced that. Colin obviously knows my ramblings. Listen to what John said. Clearly, it was violent. But this is true. This is true. This is true. No laser tags. You bought them back from America. I mean, they were quite big guns, but you had the better breastplate thing. And if you hit the target, boom! But it was like the ghostbusters with a big old proton pack. It was big. Have you got all the armors? You've got like helmets to wear and glasses and that sort of thing.

34:29 thing. No, no, they're they've they've they've skinnied it down in because like kids don't you know don't stand for that sort of stuff. You just want it nice. I have a safety issue around like um children and lasers uh in the you know in the home environment, Johnny. I'll take it. We've got like EU certification. It's not a proton laser, proton laser. No, it's just more like a light, really, but uh, but but it does trigger when the when the gun gets the gun, it triggers it, you know, it triggers its body. So, the thing was, I bought two streams, yeah. Oh, Ray, when she asks you if you're a god, you say yes.

35:15 I didn't even need the instruction, that's just my default response. Yes, I have it's on my business card. No, it's just got me thinking about like kids' toys and so basically, as soon as they started playing with them, I said, I said, Oh, we need another one, so I got on the old tinted and uh, straight on Smith's toys. So, we bought another one. So, now we've got four guns because clearly I needed to be involved as well. Do you want me to show you the toy that has caused the most hilarity in this house in the last 12 months? Yeah, I can actually show it to you right now, and you will not believe it, right? And as it happens, we're in the kitchen, go away. Bring it out,

36:02 honestly. If this is a sex toy, I'm not sure I'm on that sort of show. I know, I'm imagining a sex toy, I've got to be honest. Unless your sex toys, unless your sex toys look like small frying pans, we got an actual frying pan, right? Eggs and that sort of stuff. So, Yorkshire here says that's not a man's frying pan. No, perfectly just to say, Sizes Richard's face. But this, if you make your pancakes a bit on the thicker side, so less crepey and more sort of um uh, what's this smaller pancake?

36:45 A bit a bit thicker, but not waffle thickness, right? Uh, and let them give them a good cuff, they'll slip out of here and are the perfect indoor frisbee, right? They don't break a single thing, they wrap around things, right? Uh, you can properly skim them at the kids, they're like ninja throwing stars, and they make a really satisfying slap when they hit them in the face. We're actively encouraging throwing food around the house. Okay, this is perfect, absolutely perfect, but hot food with frying oil all over it. I mean, I can't see what will go wrong. I mean, you don't necessarily go straight from the pan to your kids' head, you know what I mean?

37:26 Like, a small pile of cooling pancakes is definitely a safer option. But so far as like breaking shit's concerned, taking stuff off shelves, it's almost pain-free. There's virtually no cleanup, and if you've got a pet, um, you don't have to worry about the ones that you don't find because eventually the dog will turn up doing something that looks like a frisbee, yeah, right? It's a beautiful thing, a beautiful thing. My brother and I, uh, I don't know how my dad put up with this. We had this game when we were kids. Actually, my brother wasn't not much involved in the game, it was more like my game. My brother has a little bit of a thing about fruit, he doesn't it's a kind of a almost a fear about fruit, uh, some types of fruit, which I wasn't really that tuned into.

38:09 But what I found hilarious was that I could throw fruit at him and he would panic and react and run away. So, for a period of time, for a period of time, I would run around and throw fruit at him without care in the world about actual phobia or fruit, yeah, it will be, yeah. What is somebody who's a fruitophobic rich? Can we uh rule in on this, please? Fruit phobia. So, I've got I have notes, Johnny. We'll go back to these. This is a counselling session. This is going to end in a counselling session. Well, listen, guys. It's called fruitophobia. Check out the picture. Glenn, mate, you were there before Google.

CHAPTER 09 / 15 Discussion

Spider Senses and Blindfold Throwing Game

Inspired by a discussion about the weather and "spider senses," a host describes a game where he blindfolded his children in the garden to see if they could catch thrown objects using "the force." The game backfired when his daughter began hurling objects at him while he was blindfolded, leaving him in a fetal position.

spider-man· jedi· spider senses· parenting· outdoor games

38:53 Well done. Proctophobia. So, speaking of throwing things at people, one of the other hilarious games that we invented was one day we were going to be going out for a ride, me and the kids on the bikes. I looked out the patio doors. I was like, oh, it looks like rain. And the kids are like, How do you know? It's just spider senses, isn't it? You just like tingle a little bit, looks like it's going to rain. Lo and behold, it rained about half an hour later. But it led on to this whole discussion of spider senses. And unless you're around in our day, you've got to. you've got no idea what spider senses are, are you? Because, like, modern Spider-Man doesn't do the whole thing.

39:29 Spider-Senses are tingling. So I basically tried to introduce him to the concept of the force and like the Jedi thing, where you just feel stuff and fished them in suitably. So I convinced one of them to go stand in the back garden with a blindfold on while we threw stuff at him and they had to catch it and just use his reports, right? Which turned out to be hilarious, absolutely hilarious. So Baddy had a go, then Lola had a go, and then he was like, Dad, you have a go. And this is the genius of evil children. Lola, the youngest of my two daughters, was hurling everything she could at me, right?

40:07 And as the recipient, you're expecting it. So you Maddie taps her on the shoulder, stop, right? Because she's figured out that I'm now getting smaller and smaller and smaller. The fear of something being thrown was actually worse than having something thrown at you. I was in the fetal position on the deck going, please throw it, please just throw it. I can't put up with it, man. Evil, but top game. So the fruit thrown game. So if you're listening and you are going into the fruit throwing game this weekend, send us your pictures, tweet us at a dating dad or team super dad HQ.

CHAPTER 10 / 15 Discussion

Mark Ormrod and RE-ORG Charity Support

The hosts highlight the inspiring story of Mark Ormrod, a triple-amputee Afghanistan veteran and Invictus Games medalist. They discuss a viral video of Ormrod falling during a run and refusing assistance, showcasing his resilience. The segment promotes his JustGiving page, which supports RE-ORG, a charity helping service personnel transition to civilian life through physical training.

mark ormrod· re-org· invictus games· afghanistan veteran· justgiving

40:46 We would love to see quivering dads being pelted with fruit in blindfolds. This could be a sex game or just a game where your kids ever put the banana down. Okay, but the banana. Look, we like on the wrap-up, right? We like to do a little bit of a serious thing, right? And this does kind of segue nicely into something I saw on LinkedIn the other day. This bloke, right? The funny side of it, but the interesting thing about seeing the funny side is it led me to check it out. So there's this guy in like blades, you know, like

41:30 the Prestorius guy, the South African, the guy. Yeah, like these are running blades, like people with no legs. So there's this guy in a video, and it's on LinkedIn, so it's supposed to be a bit serious, right? It's business, business. So he's running, and then bugger me if he doesn't go ask over teeth and slips up. And like, anything, anyone falling over is funny, okay? I mean, part of me is thinking, okay, he's got no legs, but like, it's like, funny's funny. Like, just funny's funny. And then it gets funnier because the guy goes in to help him get up and he's like, fuck off.

42:10 And you can see he's just not having none of it. So now I'm watching. I'm thinking, this bloke is hard. This bloke is proper hard. He's on a mission here. So then I go and actually pay attention to what's going on, right? This bloke's name is called Mark Ormrod. And he's an Afghan vet. I've never heard of that name. That's not the striker from Middlesbrough in the 90s, is it? If it was, it was before. That was Brett Ormrod. This bloke, Mark, is a flipping dude. So he's an Afghan vet. He's got his legs. He's trod on a. There can be nothing more gutting than treading on a mine.

43:00 It's going to put a damp here on your deer. Oh, shit. Like, there's a second there where you know it's happened. Jokes aside, both his legs and an arm, right? So he's proper hard, right? Look, check out. I'm going to scroll. I'm going to share the screen, right? Check out. He's been to the Invictus Games. He's like a medal winner. Like, this bloke is seriously inspiring. Let me get the screen share up. And the reason I'm sharing this is Thanksgiving page. And he's at 14 and a half just giving. Thanksgiving is a very different thing. He does need one more turkey. He just needs one more.

43:44 Thanksgiving. He reminds me of that Simpsons where he sees the song, Bargie, you came and you bought me a turkey on your vacation away from workie. Just giving. He's a just giving page. Look at the guy's muscles. And so this is him. This is him. The thing is, I'm sitting here looking at this man. He's got no legs and one arm. And I'm convinced he can still beat me up. Oh, he's proper hard. Is he called Bob? He's cool. Is that him as well? Is that him there? Look at him. He's ripped. I know. He's a dad. I thought he said he only had one arm. No, he did. That's his like flipping. He can pick up more.

44:27 He can pick up more with his prosthetic than I can with a real one. That's like a gasoline. I know, but he has got the bonus. You know, when you pick up something really tight on your fingers, it like really cuts into your fingers. But he hasn't got that on that. That's fine. Oh, you'd never get a burn sliding down a rope, would you? So he's proper. So he falls over on this run, and they're making a documentary because he's doing a 5k run, right? So it's flipping inspiring. And so he falls over. The guy comes to help him up. He's like, no. And everything it can take in his body to get up on the thing. And so the guy goes, what happened? What happened? He goes, it's icy as hell.

45:10 Yes, when you go from the tarmac to the concrete, it's like, that's exactly what happened. But let me bring up, let me bring up the chattel to my LinkedIn, right? So he started, he started, he started this fundraising thing for RE-ORG by doing a beard shaving contest to raise a grand. And he's up to £14,142. So if you, I'm going to put it in the notes here. Can I ask you to just mention who RE-ORG actually are? Because most people won't know. Okay, well, good one.

45:49 Yeah, they're a charity that was set up for supporting a service personnel when they leave the military. Because obviously when they do, they've got this life where they're, you know, you're in a mindset of waking up and you're told when to wake up, you're told when to eat, you're told when to sleep, you're told where to go, you're told what to do. And everything structure, you're basically broken down so that you can then be rebuilt into a soldier who doesn't ask questions and just does things. Not only that, but then obviously they go off to war and literally see their mates' legs and arms blown off and have their own legs and arms blown off. And so reintegrating in modern societies is tough, to say the very least.

46:27 It really changes you. And so REORG's all about helping people just move from military service just back into non-military life, into civic life. And it's an incredible thing, really hard. And it takes people who know what they're doing to have really gone through that and to be able to support people in that situation. Yeah, because Totally, because so many servicemen just flip in by the wayside after they've left the army because everything they've known is taken away and they've got to fit into the normal world. Yeah, it says here, helping people adjust after a career in the service and changing the lives of those who help us all. So true. Absolutely. So true. So look, I thought we'd bring this up, right? Because the guy's so close to the 15K.

47:09 It's been awesome. If you search Mark Ormrod on, if you go to Just Giving and go to Mark Ormrod, I put his actual page in there, but it's quite a long thing to remember. But justgiving.com forward slash fundraising forward slash Mark dash Ormrod6. O-R-M-ROD6. So Mark, good on you, buddy. I know we've had a bit of a banter there, but dude, you are double-R'd. You've got to take your hat off to anybody that loses like limbs and then goes, you know what, fuck it. I'm going to run 15K or I'm going to run 5K or I'm just going to get up and walk again. Do you know what I mean? That's even though he's only got a quarter of the limbs I've got, he's twice the man I'll ever be.

47:53 Look at him. He's incredible. There he is and his wife and kids. He's got 12. He's a proper dude. I love, I absolutely love the way you put that, Glenn. Very successful. Yeah. Nailed it. So good stuff. So on the show, on with the show. Where are we at? There we go. Hot in the 90s. We need a jingle for this, please. On the jingle list. Johnny, I have got. Can I refer to my notes, please? Sorry to talk across you, but I have got some outstanding notes. One was around fruit phobia, which Glenn correctly resolved to fructophobia. But the other was around falling down. It's a very funny story. It happens all the time.

CHAPTER 11 / 15 Discussion

Bicycle Accidents and Car Park Fails

A participant shares a story about a cyclist falling over in a Costco car park after making intense eye contact with a passenger in a van. The group discusses the hazards of cycling in cities like Brighton and the "Hot Rod" style bravado that often leads to minor accidents.

costco· cycling· brighton· road safety· hot rod

48:34 Proof being that me and my mate were doing a little bit of work for a customer and we were parked up on the car park. We'll be doing a bit of grounds maintenance. It was a rainy day. And I think it was one of the employees, one of the staff was coming in. So he was riding across the car park. We were just parked in a pretty much empty Costco car park, right? And this guy was coming in from the pedestrian entrance, riding across the car park, and for some reason, chose to ride about three feet in front of the van. There was like an acre of space for him to have ridden through, but he chose to ride right past the front of the van and give us a good eyeball as he rode past. So have you seen the film Hot Rock? Rod with that guy that wants to be a stump man?

49:19 It's hilarious, you should watch it. Uh, so he's riding past on his bike, um, and as he looks in, John just like catches his eye and just eyeballs him. And you can see these two lock eyeballs as he rides past on this bike. So, the geezer on the bike goes for the full chest out, one hand off, and looks over his shoulder. And as he looks over his shoulder, the bike just goes from underneath him, and he just ends up lying on the floor immediately after making eye contact with the passenger in the van. It's like that, absolutely no reason whatsoever for him to have gone down other than chest out one-handed, and it's like poof, gone.

49:58 Sean used the force hilarious, mate. There's 250 quid if you could have videoed that for certain honestly. It was pure gold. There was no grids, there was no curbs, there was no reason whatsoever. He just went down because he was staring at John. My brother in Brighton, my brother in Brighton did the classic open the door on a door of the car straight in front of a cyclist who then both twisted himself and the door. A whole big disaster. My brother, uh, my brother's good at fixing problems, but in the in the moment, he's quite like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

50:44 I did not see the event, but I truly, wish I had. So, guys, as a cyclist, there's quite as a cyclist, it's quite a large part of me that goes, oh, uh, the rest of me is going, I'm a cyclist. I know that's part of the territory, basically, especially in a city like Brighton. You, you got to be you got to have eyes 50 feet in front of you at least. So, I put a fair degree of thought on the cyclist there as 50-50. At least we do the regular feature, hot in the 90s. So, here's the thing, right? We've got new people on the show, so let's explain how hot in the 90s works.

CHAPTER 12 / 15 Discussion

Hot in the 90s: Female Icons

The "Hot in the 90s" segment focuses on female celebrities who were prominent in the 1990s and how they have aged. Names mentioned include Gail Porter, Felicity Kendall, and Helen Mirren. The group debates the "half your age plus seven" dating rule and identifies Wendy James of Transvision Vamp as a top 90s icon.

gail porter· felicity kendall· helen mirren· wendy james· transvision vamp

51:23 Glenn and I were discussing hot women, being that we are both available, um, gentlemen. And um, and it so I was talking about the 90s and you know, lads, mags, and supermodels, and big breakfast, and all this good stuff, right? And uh, and then I asked, are we talking about like the Gail Porters of this world? Oh, here we go, she'll go in that joke, incredibly short woman, she's like a I actually have a story about Gail Porter that there is no way on earth we could ever come close to broadcasting.

52:04 Uh, but as hot in the 90s goes, um, she was still hot in like the 2010s, mate. Okay, well, that's the thing, that's the thing. What Glenn and I realized was that it was far more appropriate for us to be uh wondering how these hot in the 90s ladies were doing right now rather than going and looking for 20-25-year-olds, uh, which are closer to our daughter's age. So, we're we're sticking with the 40-somethings, or in Glenn's case, down to 35. 30s is still fine for me, my friend. Reminds of your rule, Glenn, remind us of your rule. My rule for whether I think someone I've got a chance with someone is: do they think Skeletor is the bad guy from He-Man or the character in the money supermarket adverts? Um, if it's a former, then

52:53 it's a standard rule. Yeah, I'll give you that, I'll give you that. It's kind of could I have gone to school with them, basically, kind of six years below, six years above, ish, maybe a bit wider, depending on how hot they are. Anybody who knows the airwolf to you, yeah. If you can, if you can whistle the tune, the thing tunes to Airwolf, um, yeah, then you stand the fighting champ, yeah, that's a good one, actually. Yeah, totally, or even better, if you know who like Hong Kong Fu is or something like that, do you know what I mean? That's like even better still. Yeah, hey, I read about that on the end. That was an old school television cartoon show, wasn't it? I read about that.

53:38 Sorry, mate, it can't happen. Glenn, you've got my type, mate. Damn it, Rosemary, the telephone operator. Hello, this is Rosemary, the telephone operator. You won't remember any of that, will you? Glenn knows, Glenn knows. So, right, so are we talking about like the Kim Bassingers of the world that when you were like in the 90s, and you were like, whoa, what? Felicity came. see Kendall's six. Must be in her 70s now. Come on. Yeah, she's still hot.

54:17 I mean, like, remember, like, the whole Helen Mirren thing, where it's like, whoa, Helen Mirren, Helen Mirin. I mean, fuck me, she's nearly 80 now. Do you know what I mean? It's like, where you know, like, there should be an EU ruling for like the crossover point at which they stop being too young to be your daughter and stand up on their own two feet as a woman. And you go, yeah, defo would, without being like in any way close to like, you know, being under the pedo or on the scale in any way. Is there also like an upper end as well, where it's like, come on, mate, it's your name. Do you know what I mean? Yes. Yes. In fact, beating. Yes.

54:59 Some necrophilias are so dead is definitely too old. Oh, definitely. Don't. I went in the early days of Twitter. The early days of Twitter, I set up this newsfeed auto-tweeting thing with using Yahoo pipes. It was way ahead of its time. I was auto-tweeting and stuff. And I put out a tweet that somehow picked up an article from a German newspaper about a band that had been arrested for some kind of necrophilic activity. How would you even find that? What sort of search algorithm was going through your mind? It came through Yahoo News. All I can say is, it wasn't my fault.

55:44 So, like, Rich raises a good point. If you were going to be towing either line, the you know, the one at the young end of the scale or the one at the older end of the scale, which would be a worse shadow to be cast under, the closer to the pedo line or closer to the necro line? Um, which one would you rather not be closest to? I don't know that I can be, I might take the fifth on this. Yeah, but I think it's closer to minus 20. Yeah, plus or minus 20. Yeah, your age, plus or minus 20, I think, is a good jumping off point. The standard, the accepted age is uh, half your age plus seven.

56:24 That's meant to be half your age plus seven is meant to be the kind of lower end of the uh of the scale for you. Okay, Carl, let's test it. Let's test this. Let's test this for those that are on the podcast. I do apologize. You're gonna have to go and watch the replay to see a picture of Felicity Kendall in her. There we go. So, we've got Felicity Kendall in a swimsuit there. Yep, yep. Come from zoom in on that, Johnny. No, no, can I zoom in? F11. Oh, no, not link.

57:02 Oh, we've got a link. Okay, there she is. Johnny, what have you clicked on? And one worry, what your website you're going through, do we? You've got to entertain our podcast guests whilst we wait for page links to open. I mean, Cher, surely Cher's a curious person. No, mate. No, no, no, just for one record. Do you believe? No, she just like no. Every single RB, every single shit RB song you've ever heard in your life is in some way connected to that horrible share record, mate. And she can never be forgiven for it. What about when I put a reach? I'm about to put the reverb on.

57:47 She won an Oscar. We have a suggestion. I think Rich has won the internet on this one. Okay. Wendy James. Transvision Vamp. So what it does, does Trans count as rock band? Because my question today was hot in the 90s rock singers because I was leaning into Blenn's. Well, it depends on whether she was like what her age was in the year 2000 then. Because if you know, she could be fit or she couldn't be bait. It depends. How old is she? Wikipedia? 52. She was definitely smoking in the 90s then.

58:32 That's okay, yeah. But it's the curious question is: was hot in the 90s? Yes. Is she still hot now? That's kind of because we're wondering if she's basically if she's hot now and single, then she's in, Johnny. Third picture along there, mate. Third picture, please, buddy. That one there. That's the one. Oh, yeah, that's her in the 90s. That's she's in. So, what band was she in? Transvision Van. Transvision Van. Is that rock in any way? I don't. don't care. I'm not really bothered either way. She was in a band and she was hot. Hey, Carl, we're hot in the 90s rock chicks.

CHAPTER 13 / 15 Discussion

Alternative Rock Singers of the 1990s

The hosts list their favorite female rock and alternative singers from the 1990s, including Gwen Stefani, Cerys Matthews of Catatonia, and Alanis Morissette. They praise the album Jagged Little Pill and discuss the powerful stage presence of Skin from Skunk Anansie. Courtney Love is mentioned but excluded from the "favorites" list due to her controversial reputation.

gwen stefani· alanis morissette· skunk anansie· catatonia· courtney love

59:14 Okay, so I've got four that you might want to have a look up. Then obviously, the first one is nice. It's an easy yes, and I will fight anyone who says no, Gwen Stefani. Hell yes. Yes. Simple yes. Was stunning back then and had an attitude of, you know what? Fuck you. I don't give a shit what you think. I'm doing, I'm dressing, I'm acting the way I am because I want to act this way. Just absolutely stunning. She's a not only is she sexy as fuck, she's a role model for my girls as well. Talking about role model for my girls, the girl my oldest child was named after is Keris Matthews from Catatonia. Very cool, very, very cool. Is she married to Nel Gallagher?

59:59 No idea, but all I know is she is a genius. That was tragic. Yeah, she's stunningly attractive. And International Velvet is one of those rare beasts where it's an absolutely perfect album without a single bit of filler on the entire thing. It works absolutely superbly. The next two, the last two I thought I'd bring up. One is a petite kind of, I will say she's alternative music rather than pop princess. It's Alanis Morrissette. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I'm getting that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:00:37 Jagged Little Pill is another one of these albums. For me, it's an album I listen to when things maybe romantically have not gone right with a lady and we've split up. My God, I never knew what a breakup album was until I've been heartbroken. And she, wow, she just rips into it. It's superb in a way that I don't think any other album does. My final one: sex of Alanis Morissette performing on stage, possibly a sex act. I'm not sure. But has she had a few parties? When was that? Is that recently? Recently. She's at the Weight Watchers award.

1:01:19 Here's an old one. There she's looking. Oh, yes. That's the one. That's the one. I do love her little cameo appearance in Dogma as well, where she played God. Absolutely brilliant. Absolutely love that one. And my final entry has got to be the sometimes scary, but just, again, vocally supreme skin from Skunk and Ansi. Yes, mate. Absolutely. And but again, with this kind of fuck you power that is just inspiring.

1:01:59 She's just got perfect skin, perfect attitude, and she looks basically the same now as she did 30 years ago. I don't know how many people she's been killing and bathing in their blood, but it's worth every single one of them. There we go. Actually, her same age photos. Also, you're doing good for bringing some bane balance to our episode as well there. I just didn't realize I couldn't work out how people could listen to her in that mask thing and not know who she was. I genuinely was talking to a colleague and said, but it's Skin from Skunk and Ansi. And they were like, who's Skunk and Ancy? Was she a famous singer or something? No, Skunk and Nancy, the band. They just didn't know who they were.

1:02:45 And so there was a resurgence in this music. They then went and Googled Skunk and Nancy and still didn't find her. Yes, one of my friends did exactly that. It was so embarrassing for them, but mortifying for me. Is she actually bald? Well, she looks like it. This is the wrong thing about bald women, isn't it? I don't know whether she's naturally bald or has alopecia, but she's just sensual. Lover. And again, oh, what was the first album they did do?

1:03:25 And yes, it's fucking political on it. Oh, God, I'm going to have to Google this now. What was Skunk and Ansi's first album? Skunk and Ansek. That's what it's. If you haven't listened to it in a while, go back and listen to it. It is incredible. So, yeah, those are my top four sexy in the 90s alternative grunge-based singers. And no, Courtney Love didn't get on that list because I'm worried that if she gets anything to do with me, she'll probably have me killed and make it look like something. suicide. See, personal safety is always paramount, Glenn. Safety first. Then

CHAPTER 14 / 15 Discussion

Post-Lockdown Summer and June 21st Reopening

The group discusses the anticipated end of COVID-19 restrictions in Britain on June 21st. They express skepticism about productivity during that week and discuss potential summer plans, including the Reading Festival and the Euro football tournament. A mention is made of DJ Sasha performing a four-hour set as nightlife begins to return.

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1:04:12 he knows how to keep us gentlemen safe when we're out dating. So that is all good. All good. Let's bring us back on screen here. Let's close that. Go three way. Yes. Well, chaps, this has been a lot of fun. We've uh we've rattled through. Um, we we've still, Glenn, we've got issues with this raving this summer subject. It's just not getting around to it. But we'll listen, we're having a bit of laugh, so we will just cover it. It's Boris. Is anyone else watching world news? Is it in America? Obviously, I've got cousins and stuff in America, so they do seem to be getting a bit of a handle on this thing now in America. My brother lives in France, they seem to be just in quite a serious lockdown, and maybe

1:04:58 they've written off the PCs and they're looking forward to possibly the summer. Britain, on the other hand, is fully cranking up, ready for a June 21st. Is it June 21st? Basically, it's going on mute. Going on full blowout on June 21st, Glenn. You've been following the news. Is that what's happening? Have I been following the news? It's why I was on telly this week. I know, but I just have been busy. Yeah, it looks like the 21st of June is a Monday, weirdly. And so I don't think anyone's going to get much done on the 22nd of June, basically.

1:05:39 We should just write off that entire week and just accept it. Just acknowledge everyone is going to get pissed. Now, weirdly, it means I'm probably not going to go down the pub Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. Probably not that entire week. Because can you imagine how fucking mortal everyone in that pub is going to be? It's going to be atrocious. I mean, no one's going to be rolling back. Everyone's going to be in pieces. They'll be having tacticals at 11 a.m. Let's be truthful. They'll be re-drinking at breakfast to make sure they go there on a level. Make that first week or two. It's just going to be horrific. So, yeah, I might sit out a little bit and just continue to prep my liver indoors by myself.

1:06:25 And then, yeah, start going out there a little bit later. But I've started thinking about booking up tickets to places again. I've already got a few things that are kind of rolled over from last year. They're trying to do them again this year. And hopefully, there'll be a few more. I did think about going to a festival. I thought about taking my kids to Redding because that's going on this year. But there's just one of me. I've got four kids. And the littlest one's only going to be eight in a fortnight. So they're still pretty young. I can't look after four kids. And also, it's 250 quid a ticket. And when I'm sitting there thinking, they like music, but they've not really got into live music.

1:07:05 Do I really want to be sitting there for three days babysitting a bunch of kids and not being able to give it large myself? And also knowing that everyone around me will be absolutely chicken oriental the entire time. I don't really want to expose them to that. I don't want to do that. So I'm probably not going to be taking them out. And I don't know about whether I'm going to be going out too much myself over the summer. How about you, Johnny? I'm totally up for going out, definitely. Festivals, yes. I mean, we're definitely not going to have a vaccination conversation, but assuming, you know,

1:07:46 most people are going to have one. If I get offered one, I'll have one. But yeah, I'm just looking forward to like, yeah, having a flipping laugh. I've got visions of uni days of tactical junders and drinking in the sun and old friends, hugging strangers. The days of like being in London and on Clapham Common or down in Richmond, and you just, the day just kind of rolls and rolls and rolls, and you meet different groups of people. And I guess I'm hankering back to times of flipping past now.

1:08:30 But if we can read that, I think everyone's going to be on it. I think imagine the sun shining. Plus, we've got people haven't spoken too much about the fact that the Euros are going to be happening as well. So we're going to be out and the Euros are going to be on. I mean, those photos of last time the World Cup was on, like in big parks of 10,000 people their beers in the air. I mean, oh man, it just kind of seems twisted that that. that seems like such a long stuff was happening down in London where theoretically, you know, we're all awful and we hate each other. Whereas up north, they're all licking each other day and night. I mean, what's it going to be like up there? It's going to be mental.

1:09:13 That's why we've been twatting for three months. Yeah, I mean, like up north, we are really cut off from the rest of the world. I mean, I think one of the first gigs that we've just bought some tickets for is that he's not very well known as a DJ, some boy called Sasha. He's just announced he's doing a four-hour set at one of the local clubs here. There's a couple of other parties cropped up. Some of the other ones have jumped back in, like literally imminent June, July. So I don't know. I mean, mountains and Sasha or people that you don't even say hello to on the tube. What do you think? London.

1:09:57 London. Two hours from the sitting. You need to get on the train. You need to call to some proper humanity. That's what I'm going to say about it. This is what you need to. I'm not an either or person. I'm an end person. So, yes, I'll go out in London and I will absolutely go out up north every single one. Even if up north, everything's a bit small and you know, local. But that's okay. It's nice to be faint every now and then. It'll give you some perspective. It'll make you appreciative of what you've got in London. Or what you haven't got in London. Everyone's a winner.

CHAPTER 15 / 15 Discussion

North-South Divide and Podcast Outro

The episode concludes with banter regarding the North-South divide in England, with hosts sharing stories from their university days in Stafford. They compare the current post-pandemic era to the Roaring 20s following the 1918 Spanish Flu. The hosts sign off, directing listeners to the Team Super Dad website and social media handles.

stafford· manchester· liverpool· roaring 20s· team super dad

1:10:36 Listen, thank you. For our viewers and listeners, what we've got boiling away here, bubbling up nicely at the end of this week's wrap-up. Wrap-up 29, by the way. Thank you, everyone, for listening. We've got two northern monkeys and a couple of soft southerners down here down here. In here, on here. The big debate always is, and I was a geezer from Maidstone who went to uni in Stafford. And there was literally two people from because it's such a small place anyway. There was literally two people who were from lower than Birmingham in the place.

1:11:19 And I had blonde curtains down to my down to that past night. Mate, they were amazing as well. I was like that. As a bald man, you can openly appreciate somebody else's hair and you're like that. Well, it was good for me. I'll give you that one. It was of the time. Exactly. I just spent the summer in Chicago. So it was fully blonde hair, brown skin. And at school, all through school, secondary school, my nickname was JJ. So up I go, like super confident, like, oh, right, everyone, how's it going? Like, yeah. And, you know, literally, Colin and 200 similar people, I'm going, all right, mate, I'm JJ.

1:12:03 And they're going, check it out. It was me. JJ, who the fuck are you? Laughing in my face, basically. Thank God you didn't got some leads. Yeah, but Johnny, here we still are, mate, 30 years later. I was just about to say what we should do is actually get it sorted out and get you both up for one of these, quite frankly, backwards northern nights. Come across here and we'll do Team Superdad on the Sunday afternoon, mate. Super Dad on tour. Super Dad on tour, totally. Yeah, maybe.

1:12:48 We'll get the Manchester Monopoly set out and do a session around. Well, Liverpool, we'll do it around Liverpool. Liverpool, mate. More fun. Apologies to our Manchester listeners, but we do have greater affinities with the Liverpool side of the North West. I look forward to getting more stuck into the North-South divide banter. I look forward also to getting Cole and Rich a microphone. And well, it was a bit spur of the moment to be fair. So I've got all the stuff upstairs. Johnny, next time we do this, I'll have it properly sorted out from a technical perspective, mate.

1:13:28 Very, very good. Glenn, absolutely brilliant to have you here again, sir. Let's send everybody over to A Dating Dad on Twitter, on Instagram. And, well, our dating sessions need to get scheduled, Glenn, because we are fully back in the game, basically. Yeah, it's going to be a long and interesting summer after the. Spanish flu in 1918, the roaring 20s were hedonistic to say the least. And that was before they had Snapchat. So, can you imagine what the next year is going to be like? I know, which is interesting. We could talk for hours, right? But it did occur to me the other day the year ends in a one. So,

1:14:11 1991 summer of love, you know, we could it possibly be that we I didn't even know that the Spanish flu in the Roaring 20s, but anyway, could be. I'm thinking like the third summer of love, basically, we could be, could be the summer something, and certainly it might be hepatitis, but it doesn't matter the pleasure is in the caching. I never got COVID, but I've got all I wish I had COVID. This burns your day. Oh, dream. We'd have to smell something. This is so itchy.

1:14:58 I'll tell you what, the 20% who stay to the end, they get some gold, don't they? It's like I always watch movies all the way to the end of the credits now, just in case they've put all their little vignettes in at the very end where it's like the killer bit. Do you know what I mean? And listen, we're not going to send anyone to Colin or Rich's Twitter accounts because they're going to be horrific. No, they don't even exist anyway, so that's why we watch Twitter. You've got a lot of North York, mate. Little boys on the street corner selling newspapers in the afternoon. Look, Johnny, like we're actually using pens and paper, mate. Not like, you know what I mean?

1:15:43 Old school, Colin Rich, say goodbye. Goodbye, Colin. Say goodbye. Ciao. Everybody, mums, dads, team super dad members around the world. Thank you for listening. We'll see you next week. Take care. Bye. This has been Team Super Dad. Find us at TeamSuperdad.com. Join the program and create the best life ever for you and your children. You are not alone. You're on Team Super Dad.