10:33 Although I got some feedback on my presentation style this week. Apparently, I'm too polished, too slick. I don't um, I don't are, uh, which makes me come across as too professional and not really as engaging as I could be. Oh, so it's been it's really thrown me. It's really been like, am I supposed to rough up the edges? Am I supposed to throw in some artificial ums and R's? And that's if you're watching the live, I can see a couple of people are a couple of hundred people, clearly, right? Uh, if you're watching the live, uh, let's have some tips on how Glenn could appear less polished. The first one that comes to mind for me is you could have your flies undone, right?
11:14 And then, and then be like, oh, my apologies. That implies I'm wearing trousers and clearly I'm not doing that. Okay, yeah. Wear a shirt and maybe a jacket sports blades or something and a pair of board shorts. How about that? It could do, but then at some point I'd have to show them my crotch. Now, I usually can do that, but that's that's restricted to OnlyFans. Okay, okay. Links on demand. How what are your slides like? Do you go with like a like a big picture and a kind of headline, or do you like a lot of text on your slide? No text, hardly any text. So for me, if someone's looking at a slide and spending their time reading it, they're not listening to me.
11:55 And so what's the point of me presenting? I could have sent that in an email. So I knew we were on the same wave next, Glenn. Yeah, I've actually got, and this is something, a tip I recommend for anyone who kind of has to do presentations and that sort of stuff. Have a slide deck, 10 slides, no more, no less. And each slide is a picture, just a picture. Remember those slides, remember the order they're coming from. And that way, if ever you get caught on the hop and you said, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, have you got that presentation for me? Um, because we've got to load it up because you're doing it in five minutes. If you can think on your feet and you can come up with the words, just whatever you're talking about, just do it. So one of my slides is it's a fucking elephant in a Sahara. And so whatever stage I get to, I know that that's coming up.
12:40 So I have a talk about, of course, this is a big problem. So just like eating an elephant, you have to do it one slide, one bite at a time. Or, okay, well, now, obviously, we've been talking about a tricky subject, but the elephant in the room is this. So you can just artificially cram whatever your subject matter is into whatever the picture is. No one there knows you're bullshitting. No one there knows that these are pictures that you've used a hundred times before. But it always means that whatever happens, if you turn up somewhere and your slides aren't working or you haven't got the memory stick or whatever, you've always got some slides you can talk to. Well, I'm with you. I like a big picture and a kind of a headline that leads into the subject that I'm going to talk about. I think, so do you drop in a little bit of anecdotal stuff? Do you kind of go with an example?
13:25 Yeah. Yeah, it's got, it's got to be, I've got to be excited talking about it. And they've got, so if I'm not excited talking about it, they're not excited about listening to it. How about this? Do you reference people in the room? Do you try and involve them in the thing? Maybe that would be polished. To a degree. I think partly he was saying it's the tone and the cadence and the pacing. It's always content dense and the flow of it is kind of so very like it's it's it's too artificially constructed to be look if you're going to present this this is how you do it and this is your radio voice and this is your presenting voice and and your cadence your pacing and and it's the way it should be which is too much so i need to dial it down a bit i need to stop being so radio slick and become
14:12 more human which is really really interesting as feedback i've never had that before i've never had someone saying you need to rough it up a bit because you know this voice it's rough as arseholes glenn you're just too good mate i don't know it's not sorry you need to be a bit more shit please you need to be shit you need it needs to find that sweet spot so i've been reflecting on that over the past few days it's always good to get feedback we've got a big feedback culture at my place and it's always good to get challenged on things you think you're doing well and you get positive feedback from some but if your boss says you need to do it slightly differently i'm gonna listen listen to him. He knows what he's talking about. Yeah. Well, at least he won't get you fired as well. That's good. That's good. Yeah.