Back In The Game - The Wrap Up #33

00:00 Whoa, it's Friday. Welcome to the Team Super Dad wrap-up. We're here, as always, to celebrate the end of our week to talk some nonsense, maybe topical, maybe some stuff from our life, maybe stuff we've made up to fill the show with hilarity and goodwill. But whatever your week has been like, and mine has been some highs and lows, as we will get into. But you're in the right place. We're going to have some laughs. We're going to have some drinks. And I'm going to tell you all about it after this. Welcome to Team Super Dad. Real Dads creating their best lives ever.

00:41 More time, more money, more fun. You are not alone. You're on Team Super Dad. Hey, welcome to the Team Super Dad wrap-up. If you've not joined us before, then you are glad to be here. First timers, pop in your wrap-up cherry tonight. And if you're a regular listener, watcher, subscriber, then it's great to have you back. Always, it's nice to feel that people come back, isn't it? It's like you've done something good. Yeah, yeah, we're like athlete's foot. You know, once you've got us, you just can't get rid of us. Itchy, itchy little fuckers.

01:24 Thankfully, I did notice, I did notice as I was doing that, because as the wonderful funky music was going on, I was looking at a different screen. And as we went on screen, I noticed that I went, I did that, and I felt like Ron Burgundy or something. Hey. What does he say? Go in, San Diego. Oh, yeah. Good. I love that film. Oh, we should. Do you know they've turned off watch parties on Facebook? So get people. Not that I ever really did that, but I can't believe they haven't worked out some way that you can watch things together. Like on a big screen where you all kind of turn up at the same time. Maybe they could sell food and snacks as well.

02:09 Yeah. Put seats in. Well, I have done that. I've done not the cinema thing, but I have done watch-along dates before where you've not been in the same place at the same time, but you wanted to spend time together. So you basically did it. So we were both watching the same movie. But trouble is she was watching it on Sky. I was watching it on Netflix. And they were the wrong version. They were different versions. So every now and then, I'd have to pause it while she caught up. And then she'd have like, or I there'd be like different timings. There'd be extra scenes in one and not in another. And it was just, it was a nightmare. Basically, what I'm saying is it's not worth dating because the logistics are too much.

02:49 I think you should just give up now. Well, I've got updates for you on that front in a minute, Glenn. Do you know on airplanes they used to do that? Cut out, like, you know, get a movie on an airplane. All the days are built in back of the seat stuff, because things our kids won't ever know about. But they would do film plain versions of movies. And then it's, it's, I thought they still did, but they, when I've, whenever I've been on them, um, obviously not last year, but before, uh, they'll say, right, you've got the screen in front of you, haven't you? But they'll say, like, yeah, be aware this movie has like adult scenes. Now, if I'm sitting here and there's some random kid sitting next to me, what am I supposed to do?

03:30 Excuse me. Am I supposed to kind of like put a blanket over the screen so he can't see? He might not be able to hear it, but if there's boobs, you're damn right he's going to be watching it. Yeah, like a just, what do they call it? Like a discretionary, not a discretionary, like a oh, god, I can't think of the word. A decency flap. Yes. Exactly that. That's what we need. Some sort of decency flap. A decency flap. Well, I told you when I first discovered Brockmeyer. But as the show rolled in the back of my seat on a virgin Atlantic plane, it said, please be considerate to people around you. This program contains sex, violence, drugs, and nudity.

04:15 I was like, as does every good flight, I've got to say. Yeah. Left foot, right foot header. Brilliant. So, how's your week been, Glenn? How's your week been? It's had its ups and downs. It's been, I mean, overall, it's been good. It's been another busy one, but you know, I'm sick and tired of saying it's busy. Everyone's busy. Can you remember a time when you weren't busy? Thought we've done some good things at work, but got a bit of a knock today when someone wanted to get a job and I'd kind of put myself on the line a bit to get them a bloody good offer to come and work with me and made sure they got the offer. And yeah, they've turned us down, which is a real shame. So I'm glad about that. And also on a kind of a non-work front as well.

04:59 as well, I've basically had to stand up to it. I've gone for Harry Potter. Oh, no, was it? Who's the one in Harry Potter number one where he stands up to his friends? The fat kid who ends up killing Voldemort. Oh, I'm not very good at Harry Potter. I know the Weasleys were their friends. Yeah, whoever the kid was, in number one, that stood up. I've had to stand up to a friend this week. For the past year or maybe longer, they've just been getting more and more and more kind of self-absorbed and kind of fatalistic and negative and aggressive and spiteful to their friends around them.

05:42 And I've had to say, enough's enough. I'm not going to enable this anymore. And they've really gone off on one. But I think friends don't let friends continue in that way. Friends don't enable their friends to be doing the bad things. And at some point, you've got to draw a line in the sand and say, no more. I'm not going to be part of that. So it's been a tough week in some ways. But, you know. Do you think the friendship is going to be over because of that? Or do you think? I don't. I've said to him, I don't think you're terrible. I think how you've acted is terrible, but I don't think you're terrible. And I want you to get better. I've been there for so long, really tough times.

06:24 And I know things are bad, but I'm not just going to sit here and tell you all the things you want to hear that you're making all the right decisions when you're making the wrong decisions. I'll be here for you. When you're ready to come out of this, then I'll be there for you. But until then, I just don't want any part of it. Oh, Glenn, I really. So we'll see how long that takes. No, I respect that. I don't mean that just like, oh, yeah, well done, mate. That's brilliant. It takes a lot to. Well, I'll tell you what, it doesn't take a lot to do. It doesn't take much to step over that sort of stuff. And most people generally do. And the thing is, the taste is still left there. The friendship is tainted by having thought it and not said it.

07:06 It's just kept it in, you kept it in, it's like swallowing the poison and waiting for someone else to die. You stood up for what you believe, values. If you don't, I've been writing an e-book this week, part of the Hero Academy and that program, which is like the paid part of Team Super Dad. And purpose is the number one. It's called the power code. So purpose, purpose, ownership, work, execute, reward. And inside of purpose is values. And if we're experiencing life as this isn't as much fun as I want it to be, I don't feel quite as good about this as I hope to.

07:45 Then the place where we can go to look is our values and purpose. Because if we're not living those in everything we do and say and who we hang out with, then somewhere along the line, it's just that the zest for life just starts to fade away. So, you know, you probably weren't thinking about all that when you did it. You were just, I know what you're like. I started to get to know you quite well now. You are a man of values and you're like, you don't like, don't like it when people cross that. I respect that massively. Cheers, man. Yeah, it's tough. I would want some, it's a harsh truth. And the hardest thing is to kind of say, say honest things that you know are going to hurt someone, but it's for their own good. But sometimes you just got to do that. And I desperately hope that they'll listen. I don't think they're ready to listen now.

08:27 I think they're still lashing out. They're still being aggressive and still in an angry place and a kind of a victim place as well of it's all everybody else's fault. And yes, some of it, other people have done bad things. But the way they've, firstly, the way they've instigated and secondly, the way they've dealt with it, I think are wrong. And while they're in a space of it's everybody else's fault, then they're in a space where everybody else are the people who've got to fix it. Whereas I think they've got to take some ownership of their own actions, their own attitudes, their own mindset and own that and acknowledge that they did some wrong things and they've acted in ways that aren't that they're not going to look back all in pride and think okay how can I have done this how should I have done it differently and how can I do it differently in future and to make it

09:12 right they've upset a lot of people and don't acknowledge any of the blame and that in my mind if you stab someone you can't fix it by putting a sticking plaster over the top you've got to go a bit deeper to fit heal that wound and so if they really want to make it right with a fair few people they've got to really think about how they can make it right and and heal that deep wound without just thinking if they just say oh yeah well you know times have been tough at the minute you should just be there for me as a friend no that's not good enough yeah yeah well and that's about blame isn't it you can't all the time you're blaming other people you are not being responsible for your own actions and and what my experience of blame is that you let it allows you

09:52 when you're blaming other people for things it allows you to be really active angry and right about everything except what you've done or could be responsible for. And I think it's only when people let only when people pull that blame back that they can start to see what their actions have been like and what they can be responsible for. Yeah. So, yeah, it's been a tough week, though. It sounds like you've had an even rougher one. Yeah, well, it's a perfect time to sort of segue into a tribute to Steve Lovell. Steve Lovell died this week. I don't know exactly how.

10:33 He had an illness going back a couple of years ago, which I think was some kind of cancer type liver type. You know, he was in and out of hospital, touch and go for a while, and then he was back. And if you're a keen listener to the Team Super Dad podcast, Steve Lovell's conversation with me was the second ever Team Super Dad podcast. So not quite as nice as Mike as this one, but a bloody good conversation. And Steve, I met him through Landmark Education. And so we were on personal development courses, you know. So in an environment like that, people are encouraged, not encouraged.

11:15 People discover the strength to be straight with you. You know, there's, there's exactly like you did with your mate this week. You know, there's no value in not saying what there is to be said, but also doing it in a way that makes a difference, right? Not just dumping someone. And Steve, he was a scouser originally. He just had a massive heart. And then you meet him, right? And he's a painter and decorator. And then he starts talking about, oh, yeah, well, I used to be a punk. I used to play guitar. Yeah, I was in a few bands. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I produced Blur's first album.

11:56 Yeah. It was quite fun when they were, you know, head to head with Oasis and Park Life and all. And you're kind of just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, back up, back up. I thought you were Steve. I thought you were just like Steve. I didn't realize you'd done all this cool stuff. And on his podcast interview conversation with me, he talks about how he got into punk and how he was on top of the pops and how him and remember, ah, not, ah, come on. Not Frankie Goes to Hollywood. Who sang that song? Blue Jeans and Chinos? Got Pepsi and Arrios. Americano. Oh. I genuinely don't know.

12:40 I'm going to find out. He was on top of the pops with him in like his original band. One of the guys from Frankie. Holly Johnson. Holly. Yeah. Holly Johnson. Holly? Holly? Holly Johnson. Holly Johnson. Holly Johnson, yeah. Steve and him are in a band together. And so you know what Facebook is like. It just came up. Like, really sorry to let you all know that Steve passed away peacefully with his family this week. And oh my gosh, you want to talk about legacy. And dad's listening to this, right? Like, what are we on this planet for? What is our purpose? What are our values? We just mentioned it a minute ago. Like, people can get a little bit confronted by that. Like, oh, well, that sounds quite heavy. Like, I've got to go and do something amazing.

13:25 I got, no, Steve was just there for people. And he was there for me. And when I told him I'd proposed to my wife, he was like, I do like her. In fact, I like her a lot, but I don't think you should marry her. He didn't step over it. He didn't step over it. And he did like my wife. Him and his wife did so much for us when we first got together. His son, David, and my stepson, Archie, were good mates for a while whilst we lived in the same area. And he had Rachel, his wife. She has got three kids.

14:05 So he was stepdad to three children, two boys and a girl, and his son, David. And just he's a Liverpool fan. So I know a lot of people on the Liverpool football front are missing him on the punk front, on the music front, on the community front, on the just a top, top bloke. So he wasn't a big drinker, but kind of in honor to you as well, because I worked with a gin and tonic last week. So this week, I've got a little, I don't even know, might have been something that someone won at a fair, but I got given it as a gift for speaking. I don't know how much you're supposed to put in, but I've just had half of it. Wow.

14:47 Okay, this is going to be an interesting end to the podcast. podcast. I don't know. What is a shot? I don't know. Yeah, no, that you've just probably put in about three doubles there. Yeah, you're not meant to drink it by the pint. I'm going to open. This was whiskey that was made for me, or certainly not made for me, then kind of mixed in my name. It's based on a 1998 Space Eye Malt Scotch. So 98, that's what, 20, 23 years? I was just finishing uni. It was party time in London. So mine's a nine-year-old, a tram to share. I was sharing it with you, Glenn. So nine years, you've like top-trumped me by 98 plus nine, that's 2007, plus 14.

15:32 Oh, you've 14 years. No, more than that. But it's not a competition. No, I know, but I like maybe I'm a little bit competitive about everything. Well, I'll tell you what, if you want to get competitive in that regard, what I have here is a whiskey that was, what's Queen Elizabeth's dad's name? Bob. It was either like George or Edward, probably. There's one of those. Queen Elizabeth, our current queen. Yeah, her dad. Her dad was George. Okay. This is whiskey that was bottled for his coronation.

16:14 Oh. A friend of mine who is 72, when his mum died, he found it in her house. And he doesn't like whiskey. So he gave it to me. So I'm saving this for ultra. I've had a couple of sips. I had a little bit on my 40th birthday and I'm saving that for ultra special occasions. But you know what? This hopefully will be good enough for Steve's memory. So cheers. It really is. Cheers. Steve Lovell. If we could have, here's the shocker of COVID, right? Bollocks to COVID. I'm fed up with it.

16:52 If his funeral was a normal funeral, it would literally be shut the town down type. You know, there'd be people coming from all over the world. And so I mentioned legacy a minute ago and never really finished it off. But blimey, you know, dad's listening to this, just think about what if it was your funeral, what do you want people to say about you? If there was something that you could make a difference in, it doesn't mean invent something to cure cancer or find out how to go to Mars. It just means make a difference in your community. Stand up for your mates when you think they've proposed to the wrong person. You know, be a great dad to three kids that aren't yours. Like, just

17:36 be Steve, basically. So, yeah, much missed. And I'll tell you what else it did make me think. It made me think there's a little bit of regret, but it's like, how many times did I see him over the last 10 years? And stuff going on. I was busy. We had a divorce. We had babies. We had miscarriages. I was depressed. We had a breakdown. And then amongst that, I didn't see an awesome bloke as much as I could. And that's what we must all remember. Is Reverend TD Jakes, one of a favorite line I heard of his in a video on YouTube. And it was about breakups and stuff. But it says, don't drown in a cup of water, like while she's swimming in the sea. Or like one of you. And I think that that goes true for reaching out to friends.

18:19 No matter what's going on in your life, don't not speak to people that are otherwise awesome. That being said, you're sitting here saying, I didn't see him enough. You knew him. I never got to meet him. And so even if you didn't see him for a long time, didn't see him as much as you could have, didn't see him as much as you wanted, you got the chance to meet an awesome person. And that's incredible. And I will never have that opportunity. I'll never meet this man who has made such an impact in so many people's lives. So yes, you could have seen him more. We could all have seen many people more, but did you see him enough? Did you know him? And if you did, then I'd say remember that rather than

19:00 rather than the other side of things. Totally, totally. People have their own attitudes and sort of ways of dealing with death and stuff. And my mum dying when I was a kid, has given me a bit of a, I think, a freer perspective on it. But one thing I say to people, just in that exact same way, Glenn, is people can be upset. And yeah, fine, be upset for a while. But it comes a point where it's just like, do you know what? They wouldn't want you to still be upset. They'd want you to be having a laugh. So let's celebrate the memories of the people, people we've loved and missed. Yeah, definitely. Hussar. So, but Monday night, we did the conversation with men and women about what women want men to know.

19:45 it was an interesting discussion. It really, really was. How did you find it? I don't profess to be the most learned person. I'm sometimes a little bit guilty of finding out just enough information to be able to participate in a conversation, but not enough to really make a difference or influence it or like enough to win. Let's be honest, I know enough to wing stuff. Yeah. And I normally get by, we're just winging it. But you said something right at the end of it. It might even have been after it, actually. It was after it was on a post in the Team Super Dad group. You mentioned the meaning of feminism.

20:30 I've been activated by the word feminism over the years. And yeah, so when you said that, I went and looked it up. And it's as simple as the principle of women's rights being equal to those of men or rights of women being equal to the other sex. So it's that simple. It's like if you had two kids, it's the right to break a bar of chocolate in half and give each the same size piece of chocolate. It's not to me battle or toxic this or win that or retribution for the past.

21:14 Some of the feelings that even start I'm open about this. I want to be honest and frank about it because I think it gives other men the opportunity to see and question how they think as well. But yeah, sometimes I'm like, well, you know, come on, chill out. You know, like, we're getting there. As far as I'm concerned, I want everything to be equal or whatever. But then I get quite activated when they're really banging the drum and like, wow, men and this and men and that. When you say they, who are we saying? Oh, some, obviously, some of the louder people on Twitter, which I, you know, is a micro-flipping cosm of the whole female population. Yeah. So you're on Twitter more than me. So you probably, I dare say you.

21:57 Yeah, I am. I have an awful lot. And I am an absolute feminist 100%. My kids are feminists. When my youngest, he was, I don't know, four or five years old. I was teaching him about equal pay. And for weeks afterwards, he would just randomly walk up to me and say, Daddy, do you know that women do the same jobs as men, but they don't get paid as much money? That's crazy. I was like, yeah, it's mad. How is this a thing? And it is exactly that. It is purely about equality. It's saying,

22:36 no better, no worse. And that's all it is. It's not saying, I mean, a good person should want both genders to be up and so on, and the quality of life for everyone to be up. But it's not saying that women should be having things better than men. Everyone wants things better, but it shouldn't be based on your gender. That's all it is. It's really, really simple. It's just about pure equality. And it works both ways. So if men are held accountable for certain actions, women should be held equally accountable. Not more, not less. It is pure equality. That's all it is. But it's been hijacked by kind of the phrases like femines and

23:19 the extremes where there are people out there who do want women to have so much more than men because making up for millennia of oppression and all that, which happened. But they are kind of quoted and referred to, and all feminists are referred to in the same way. And that's just, it's just not true. If you can, not you personally, if anyone can look me in the eye and convince me that two people should be treated differently based on their gender, I'll be open to the discussion, but it's rubbish. No, I agree. It's rubbish. But I think my attitude has been too much like, well, that's obvious.

24:04 That's obvious. Okay, so let's just get on with it. Rather than sometimes it feels a bit angry. Other things that get up that blow my mind, it's TV programmes now where the dad or the brother is just a complete mom. The pepper piggot sort of mindset. Well, do you know what? I heard someone say that about Pepper Pig recently. And have been being a dad of two kids 11 and 9, you know, so they were babies in the early 2000s. You know, I have watched, I've watched. watched, I've watched every episode 50 times. I've watched hours and hours of Pepper.

24:44 I love that. I don't think of Daddy Pig too much of a doofus, but I think of him as just a loving dad who goes to work and get on with it. But Disney is worse for it. Nickelodeon, not much, but Disney's bad for it at the moment. And it seems like at Disney, there's this big push to put women at front and center. It's like, oh, it's like we feel bad about what we've done for the last 100 years. So we're going to flip it and we're going to put women in all the front roles and we're going to make men look a bit stupid. Which just feels a bit weird to me. It feels, it feels a bit. I don't mind, but no one's come out and said it. No one's come out and explained it.

25:24 Or maybe they haven't. The issue isn't that women are getting in the front roles. It's because men are made to look stupid in it. Now, look at any other thing. The women aren't made to look stupid. The men might be the leading characters, but the women are made to look helpless and fairy-like, and the man has to save them. Now, how do you make a man be that I need saving in some way, whether it's emotional, whether it's physical or whatever, without him looking like an idiot? It's hard to do. But I don't think it's as imbalanced as we think. Because, I mean, look at panel shows, for example. Now, almost every panel, if I see a panel show where there's more, say that normal, like have I got news for you, not have I got news for you, Moses, Mock the Week, where you've got six panelists and the host.

26:11 The host is male. Now, if there's more than two women on there, it becomes noticeable because we're not used to seeing more than two stand-up comedians who are female. How many times have you looked at something outside of QI? QI is the only one which is properly equal in terms of gender. But outside of QI, every single panel show is male-dominated to an absolute huge degree. If you saw a fully male lineup, you wouldn't even blink your eye. And so when you see eight women on there, you think, okay, well, there's a token woman, maybe two women, three women. My God, are they trying to take over? And that's just three out of seven on that week.

26:51 And that's just an example of what happens in every single series. So I think we're so indoctrinated to it being mostly men with a little bit of women that whenever it's even close to being equal or the other way, then we notice it and it massively stands out. Sport in the last 18 months, I don't listen to Five Live much, but I listened to Talksport. And whatever happened at Talksport, someone said, shit, we've got to sort this out. And they just rolled in a load of women. And it was weird to start with. And I don't mean weird like bad. I just meant, I mean, like, it was just exactly as you said. It was noticeably off.

27:31 It was noticeably weird. Like you've got, you know, suddenly you've got a woman's voice commentating. You're like, hang on a minute. Where's the black? But that's being in the football. In the old days, in the Women's World Cup, you'd have someone like, and it wasn't him, but Gary Lineker. Then you'd have an Alan Shearer and an Ian Wright. And then maybe every now and then you'd have an Alex Scott might come on. But mostly it was men because men are the experts in this. And yeah, yeah, it's women's football, but you'd have male commentators, male referees, and all that sort of stuff. Can you ever imagine a world where you've got Kelly Coates being the anchor and then you've got Alex Scott and

28:11 Alex Morgan as the experts commentating on Man United versus Liverpool Men's Game? The Gammon mind would explode. But actually, these are football experts talking about football just because they happen to have ovaries doesn't mean they're any worse. They're probably better qualified than some of the pundits. I mean, I would rather listen to Alex Scott talk, even though she's a goona, than Danny Mills or Danny Murphy. Danny Murphy's, you know, he won what a couple of England caps and played football for a long time. Alex Scott is a bona fide England and domestic football legend who knows the game inside and out.

28:56 But she happens to be a woman. So what? Who gives a damn? Is she saying the right things? Get her on. But we notice it. It takes a while to get you like a new pair of shoes, isn't it? If you look down, you don't recognise the shoes. They feel a bit weird to walk in. And after, and then slowly but surely, they suddenly become just normal, like just normal. They're just comfortable. And it's okay. Compare a lineup these days where you've got, you've got Alex Scott, you've got Micah Richards and so on. Because it was also, there was the whole race side of things as well that's happened over the last year or two. But then yeah, compare that to three or four years ago when basically. basically it was Matt Let CA, Paul Merson,

29:39 I don't know, just named generic white old man, and that was it. And Charlie Nicholas, and they would just sit there just faffing about, not actually doing anything good, but you know, they're legends, so it's okay. Now of the players in the Premier League are probably black or of some black community kind of background or racial background. Yeah. No, so it's all good. And but oh God, we've strayed totally off from the conversation. Yeah, yeah. Monday night's podcast with Liz and Joe. But yeah, this is the same subject though, really. It's what we accept as normal

30:21 when it isn't actually okay that that's normal. And grabbing women's asses, wolf whistling them, rubbing past them in the pub as kind of way to let them know that you're attracted to them, but it's actually really pervy and intimidating, let alone scary. And these were some of the points that came up during the conversation with Joe and Liz. Like we were saying, it's not about whether you do it. It's about, you know, if you don't do it, brilliant. But I tell you what, if you don't do it, you know somebody who does. And if you see him do it, call them out on it. It doesn't have to be actually rubbing themselves up against someone. It can be a comment, a look,

31:07 something where they're doing something which is going to intimidate someone. Just say, mate, don't do that. And if we keep calling it out, then it will change. Yeah. Because it's one thing to go up and offer a chat someone out, offer to buy them a drink and that sort of stuff. But we've all seen it where it's, and I'm not very good at it. I don't have the, I don't know if this is a good or bad thing, but I'm not very, I don't have quite enough confidence around the whole chatting up thing. But then the flip side of that is where people have too much confidence and their idea of chatting up is let's go and leer over these two birds and basically make inappropriate comments to them, laugh to each other whilst they're sitting there feeling quite uncomfortable,

31:50 make a crude proposition to them. If they say yes or no, we don't really care anyway, because you get to laugh at them then and bolt back mates and go, oh yeah, check out yeah, do you see what I did to those two? And those women won't remember a thousand of you, but they will remember one of them. Yeah. Yeah. But it doesn't actually sound like you need to be going out on the pull at the moment. Sounds like you might be fully falling into the G-spot. So we called today's episode back in the game because I do seem to have found myself kind of back in the game.

32:29 I'm going to definitely be very appropriate in this conversation, but I do want to share it because it's been five and a half years since I split up. But that also means five and a half years since I've had sex. Five and a half years to anything, basically. I did have a few dates and a snog last autumn. But the curious thing is I've got a vision board in front of me. And I wrote on this vision board what I wanted from an ideal partner. I'm not saying this woman is the perfect part. I'm not saying I'm falling in love.

33:10 I'm trying to manage my whole emotions about it. But at 46, I think it's okay. And I did get some flack about this when I shared my vision board on Facebook. I think it's okay to be really clear about what we do and don't want out of a relationship. And so it says on there, right? I'll read it out. It goes, healthy music. Not healthy music, but these are like bullet points, right? Healthy into music. Dance, funk, house, gigs, festivals. Fitness, runner, competitive. Funny, confident, generous, five foot six to five foot ten, slim, positive attitude, spiritual, Christian, faith, skier, and then in capitals, no drama.

33:57 No drama. So when I shared this on Facebook a couple of years ago, one woman went absolutely mental at me. I think we talked about this last week, didn't we? On the podcast that we did, didn't we? No, I don't know if we covered this bit. Oh, she goes, I'm five foot five, an atheist, and I hate the snow. So that counts me out. I was like, well, yeah, it does. No, Biggie. I think, you know, I know you since school, like, you know, you're an all right woman, like, you know, fun girl. Like, but that wasn't really the point. I've, I've had, I'm 46 years old. I've had, I've had relationships that didn't work, and I probably wasn't clear enough about what I did and didn't want.

34:39 Um, and that's how I found myself in relationships that were painfully wrong, basically. So, so yeah, this this woman is uh, of course, you're gonna say she's awesome. Otherwise, why would you be having a sixth date with someone if they weren't flipping awesome? But um, it's also really weird, like just touch, even hugs. We laughed and joked the other week about when I was cooking a dinner, and I felt like Delboy, kind of like, all right, darling, come in. I've got me and two bench on the go, you know.

35:18 But um, but yeah, we uh we did. We I tried to bring up the conversation about like what I want, what I don't want, you know, the other day on a walk, and it was awfully clumsy and it didn't really land. So, I so I put it in a long, in a long text, which you know, which she really appreciated. She was like, Oh, that's amazing that you've said that. Whereas it did feel a bit weird, like I'm going to say things here that could put an end to this, but it's probably better that it puts an end to it before it starts. Or someone says, Oh, wow, that's exactly first of all, amazing that you said that. Second of all, actually, I'm really on board. That sounds brilliant. Oh, that sounds ideal.

36:00 I mean, I've had those conversations in the past where a woman said, What are you looking for? What's your ideal woman? And I've said, with all the caveats, I'm pretty fucking good at caveat in here and saying, This is not the only woman that I would ever date. However, this is the sort of woman that I would absolutely love to date. And you go into a whole world of things, but all they hear is, I've got the, I'm not this, therefore, this isn't going to work. Well, no, okay, if you're not that, that's fine. That's not a deal breaker. I've only got a I have got deal breakers, but none of the things that I'm mentioning here are anything to do with deal breakers. And yeah, people can get quite hung up on what they do and don't want and miss out on a whole world of opportunity that would be fantastic.

36:44 Yeah, I wonder if those kind of people haven't been through a heartbreak. They're still in the mindset of anyone could love me. I'm gonna, in fact, I've probably been guilty of this. I'm gonna turn this into the perfect relationship. She's so blessed to be with me. We're gonna fix this. I'm gonna make it perfect. And that's ridiculous. That's never gonna, that's never gonna. It's like marrying a vegetarian. Like, oh, well, she'll change. She'll change. Yeah, I mean, that is one of those things I would really struggle. I know I'd really struggle with a vegan because I'm definitely not that.

37:28 And I know I would feel awkward about it. I would struggle with someone who didn't drink or was highly religious or who was a massive fan of Brexit. You know, there are things about my mindset and values and so on. And I was on telly, I got about debate in Brexit with some Tory, I can't remember his name, on Good Morning Britain. And I got the amount of hate mail and abuse that I got, and they wrote articles in the Daily Mail about me. But I know my value. Conversation. Sorry? You were in the conversation or you just happened to tweet about it? No, no, I was on Telly. I've been on Television. Oh, yeah. So this was my first time on.

38:08 What's wrong with Piers Morgan? Good morning, Britain. Yeah, he's gone now. Whatever that one was. But yeah, they emailed ran pieces on me and the abuse. The only bit of abuse that really hurt me was someone called me scruffy. I was saying, fuck off. You know, I'll be called a lot. You can disagree. I was not scruffy. But I know my values. I know these are things that are deal breakers because I know I couldn't shut up about them. I wouldn't be able to let that lie. And I know it would cause arguments and I don't want arguments. But most things, if, if, you know, what, even, even as a Spurs fan, if my missus was a goona, I wouldn't particularly like it, but that would add a certain frisson to the relationship.

38:56 It would be, it would be great. It would be really funny. Yeah, she loves football. It's a funny story. Very close friends of ours, David and Jane. When David, D-Mac, when they got together, Jane was actually a goona. And he converted her. Oh, good man. What a story. That's one more of us and one less of them. What a happy ending that is, eh? oh man yeah so so so so flipping brilliant but but i just want to say to to dads right it's weird you know

39:36 get getting naked i'm like i'm like hello you know like kind of whoa whoa i'm naked she's naked um but it's it's because it's more than touch and it's not i i may be way off pist here so tell me if this is bollocks um but holding someone touching someone kissing someone is one thing but when for example this bit of naked skin is touching their bit of naked skin that's different that feels different because as much as i love you johnny my that bit of naked skin on me is probably never going to touch that bit of naked skin on you um and it's only with someone you're intimate with and you're comfortable and you you that you touch and hold in a way that is different that just connects you in a different way and it's it does feel

40:28 exciting and i'm i'm really excited for you man this is absolutely awesome but uh i'm also quite i'm also quite pissed off that um that you you've you've uh you've been naked with woman more recently than i have i mean how the has that happened because it's on my vision board i wrote that nearly three years ago nearly three years ago and i've been writing it in my goals in my journal consistently falling i'm not gonna say i'm not gonna fall in love right now but um you know um with a you know beautiful fun fit attractive confident generous tectile tactile loving we laugh play and plan our goals together

41:08 that's what goes in my in my uh in in my in my thing so the reason i'm sharing this right just to be clear for people is not i'm not trying to like flip in kiss and tell i'm trying to share this with other dads because you know if you've been single just just just rushing around trying to find someone find someone find someone find someone i read a stack because i did actually look it up second marriages have a worse success rate than flipping first marriages first marriages are 50 50 seconds i mean obviously i'm sure you know this is this is one flipping stat i should now already be looking for my third marriage you haven't had two have you no i haven't i've only had one but if you're saying the second man's gonna fail already then you know what let's plan ahead

41:53 uh second marriage failure rates failure rate no no i think i think oh here we go yeah bad news divorced couples who marry for the second time have only a 31 31 chance of their marriage ending in divorce well that's better then well that's all right no but it doesn't okay no it's just straight away second article is second marriages are more likely to end in divorce here's why yeah so there we go depending on who you ask it's either gonna be better or worse well that that's cleared it up nicely then hasn't it

42:34 that's a murray walker that's a murray walker quote if ever there was one oh we can tell it's either going to be good or bad oh i'm i'm looking forward to some uh there must be i'm looking forward to the f1 tomorrow there's going to be loads of murray walker references in the f1 tomorrow kim wait i saw on i don't know whose steering wheel it was uh in the uh william in the willy oh cool yeah so in in the practice runs today in the times times uh they would had some murray walkerisms on their on their steering wheels oh and on the halo as well yeah i'm gonna have to stop talking because there's a lump in my throat um and that just oh it's it's gonna it's gonna be it's gonna be bittersweet and it's it's weird because at the end of the day we was talking about death earlier he was he wasn't a young man we everyone dies everybody dies everybody

43:27 dies twice once when they physically die and once when someone mentions their name for the last time now murray walker has died his first time is going to be living on and on and on for a long long time to come you know why that's true more he retired 20 years ago he rotated 20 years ago yet he's still the voice of f1 i would have said five years six years yeah i'd have said no he'd have said no he retired a while ago it's got to be at least five or six years no crofty's been doing it for a long time 20 years but he's he's good he's incredible and he would and he loved it he was a fan who happened to be there and he was he was someone who really got into it and he would have loved how this season's gonna go this season is gonna be epic it's gonna be so good the mclarens said they were right up there.

44:21 Mercedes have backed down a little bit. The Red Bulls are going to be on fire as well. I tell you, I am more because the longer a set of regulations are stable, the closer things get. Also, they've introduced like a, oh, what's it called? When in the American sports, when a draft system. So the further down the field you get, the more development credits you're allowed to bring you closer to the front. There's so many little changes to the rules and regulations, even before next year. Next year's a game changer, but this year is a bonus year where all the cars are not just where they were before, but they can keep going and getting closer and closer. You know that drinking game where you have to run and put your head on the

45:08 broom. Yeah. Do like 10 times around the broom. If you get too far in the lead, you have to come in, do some doughnuts, put your head on a broom, do 10 times around the broom, and then get back in the car and drive out. That is genius. That's the thing. This year, no one's going to walk away with it. It's going to be brilliant. This is heaven for me because this is also as a Spurs fan, as an England fan with the rugby and the cricket and the football and all that these days. F1 is the only sport because it's not a traditional team. I can't lose. I just enjoy the whole thing. And so it doesn't matter who wins, doesn't matter what happens.

45:50 There's stories, there's drama, there's everything. I can't lose. I'll enjoy it no matter what. And unlike the football where I end up losing in a 93rd minute. Yeah, and if it is closer and Hamilton still wins, he probably will. He's still, the Mercedes at least will be one of the best cars. And he is in the top two, maybe three drivers in the world full stop in equal cars. Only Verstapen, maybe Alonzo, and on an exceptionally good day, if his confidence is up, Vetal can hold the torch to him. There's other drivers who will be up to that level. Lando Norris will be up there. George Williams will be up there. There's drivers who are on their way up.

46:34 Ricardo is absolutely superb as well. And even on his day, Reichenon, if you can be bothered. But there are two or three drivers who are superb, world-class drivers, and their cars are getting closer. And it's exciting. And Hamilton will probably win, but that's fine because he is the greatest driver of all time who would beat just about every other driver over the course of a season. And that's wonderful to do. They could do one of those Rocky Six Clocks where they put all the old drivers in. We were going to do this, Glenn, actually, right? We were struggling for hot in the 90s. We weren't struggling. We were just coming up with some random ideas. Hot in the 90s.

47:16 We're going to bring up 90s F1 drivers. And our podcast listeners, I know you hate this bit, but we'll include you in. Imagine you're blind. We're going to describe this next section for you. Can we make jokes about being blind? Is that okay? What have I done? Yeah, absolutely. 90s F1 drivers. Yeah, we are inclusive. We'll take the piss out of everyone. This is in the name of F1 Coming Back and it's in the name of Murray Walker and all that sort of stuff. So this is relevant. Hot in the 90s, right? F1 drivers. And to be clear, if you are racing

47:56 180 miles an hour around a track, if you are sponsored up to the nines, if you have got a million quid in the bank, then you've got a lot of credits. A big nose won't seem quite so big when you've got a million quid and a villa in Monte Carlo. Because it's so much about attraction and sexiness is confidence. And just like you can't blow a timid trumpet, you cannot be a timid racing car driver. So every one of these guys has an arrogance, a confidence, a style, a swagger that is fucking magnetic.

48:40 And so even if, yeah, Ayrton Center, look at him in general. And he's not super good looking, but even that photo you put up there, right? Yeah, he looks like a weird Jimmy White, doesn't he? He's not, he's not a sexy fella, but put him in a racing suit and get him on race day. And there's this look in his eyes. It's like, fuck you. I am amazing. You deserve. I don't know if you deserve my time and attention. And I'll tell you what, that is sexy as fuck. What? what uh, what about uh surely was was Mario car not Mario car, but was was was Nigel Mansell Mario Brothers around when Nigel Manson had that mustache?

49:27 It was it was indeed. He was just on that overlap, and I think that was uh, yeah, but into it, Mansell. I've got I was saying about sexy. Um, Mansell is not, he's not in any way, shape, or form. He's the sort of person you'd expect to bump into him in your dad's garage when they're they're they're repairing an old rover. Um, he hasn't he hasn't got that certain, as the French say, I don't know what yeah, his his uh his fame and money and racing driver lifestyle nudged him from a three to a four on the hot list. Whereas the man next to him on your screen there, Mika Hakinen.

50:11 Oh man, that is a cool, cool man, typical fucking Viking. I've got to say, thick neck, blonde hair, kind of quiffed over in a 90s thing, got kind of a boyish charm about him, um, and a sort of confidence without arrogance. Schumacher had arrogance, he was purely arrogant, but that was fine because he was one of the greatest drivers of all time. But Hakinen was better than him for a couple of years, and that's incredible because of car or because of driving skills, both both. He was in it, he was in an equal car, um, but he had a very different driving style. And just for a couple of years, he just topped out and just beat him on pure talent. It's Schumacher.

50:55 It's hard to make jokes about Schumacher because he's to say he's not even disabled, is he? No, we don't know. His family won't release any information. We can kind of possib that he is a vegetable. We do know he's not playing basketball, don't we? No, no, but his son is driving this shit. You do know that, don't you? Yeah. But look at Air and Senator. No, sorry, look at Schumacher. He's very tall. Is he like a regional bloke? No, I don't think he was actually. Let me find out. But yeah, again, he's not a looker. He's just someone who's got that arrogance. For him, it was arrogance. It was never just confidence.

51:39 Here's what we should do, right? F1 drivers' wives. That's surely the measure. That's objectification. So he was 172 centimetres. I don't know what that is in feet and inches, but it's not tall. I know I'm about 180 and I'm six foot, so he wasn't tall at all. Five foot eight, that's all he was. I think we've got, for me, for me, I think Ayrton Senna was the well, it could be the Icelander, the, what's he called? Yeah, we glossed over Alan Prost, who's got that Gallic charm, but I think that the enormous nose.

52:24 It is. It was. That was an aerodynamic nose, if nothing else. No, no. Jacques Villeneuve, he was in the 90s. David Courtard, massive chin. Okay, so plenty of. We can have a bit of male Totty in here because it's because we've got the sport angle. We've got the sport angle. I've got to say, in my opinion, any man who can't appreciate the beauty of a good-looking man is not secure in his own sexuality. You should be able to look and say, you know what? That is a good-looking man. We did discuss this when we mentioned Ryland the other week.

53:07 So there we go, chaps. There's our hot in the 90s. You may have your own favourite F1 fan, F1 driver from the 90s. Oh, F1 women drivers. We're going to get one, Jackon. So you literally caned it at Cheltenham on the subject of women doing amazing. I don't know. I'm not. I'm not into the horses. In the Gold Cup, which is like flipping second in the biggest race after, well, someone would say before the Grand National. Yeah, she won. She won five races at the Cheltenham at the Gold Cup.

53:44 I don't understand horse racing. I know this. I know this for a fact. I don't understand the skill or the talent because as far as I'm concerned, you get a little person on there and they kind of ride and then they whip the horse and the horse runs fast. The horse does the work. All you've got to know is at what point do you whip the horse? And if the horse is good enough, it runs faster. Whereas F1, there's so much more to it. And yes, we definitely will. will have a female F1 driver. The reason we haven't had her so far isn't because of so much. Yes, there are some genetic, some kind of physicality involved in it. F1 is despite what people say, it's one of the most physically demanding sports on the planet.

54:24 It's huge. And so there are men who are physically built differently, and that's not up for debate. It's a trap. How much G, like G-Force is around the corner. Their necks, their necks are wider than my thighs. But women could that measure could be a great F1 drive. Yeah, only your thighs. But women, the reason they've not got into the sport isn't because of that. It's because they haven't had the support and the opportunity to get into the racing. But they haven't had the same as bang drivers. There's no route to the top at the moment. Yeah, they haven't been supported and encouraged at karting level upwards. And so we don't know.

55:07 There is the W Series now, and that's providing more light on the subject. And it's going to, trouble is it's going to take too long, but it's on the way. It's just not quick enough. But yeah, for the time being, I can't see there's no F1, sorry, there's no W Series or lower grade racing drivers who are female that I'm aware of that are looking like you know what they're going to be F1. But in the in the 80s, there was a French woman who was a rally driver and she at the very top in the World Rally championships. Yeah, and there have been, yeah, there have been women on testing weekends. I mean, hell, Toto Wolf's wife, Susie, she was pretty sharp.

55:49 Let me be clear, she would beat me in a race. I'm not even going close in it. She was a lightning shot, probably. And there was another, and I forget her name. I think she was Spanish driver who was killed on the racetrack as well in testing one a few years ago. So there are women who are kind of getting to the testing stages. They're just not getting the opportunity. Not just getting the opportunity. These women weren't quick enough. That doesn't mean they couldn't have been, but they came into it too late and it just wasn't going to work for them. I'll tell you what, we will big up. Michelle Mouton, French rally driver, competed in the World Rally Championship for the Audi factory team.

56:33 She took four World Rally race victories and finished runner-up in the Drivers World Championship in 1982. That is a badass French woman. When you talk about top of the game, French women, we knew a woman, she was our ski instructor in Les Art. Her name was Pun Megois. And she had the world record for speed skiing for the Flying K. She did over 400 kilometers on a mono ski. Kino. This woman was tough. She'll have had thires. You don't get speed skating unless you've got muscle.

57:17 Well, that's like jockeys. You've got to crouch down and really go round. It's not hard work being a jockey. Come on. One of my ambitions actually is to go and follow the F1 to every continent we race on. So going to the Middle East, going to Asia, to go to Australia, to go to Rio, to go to North America. Trouble is, I don't think I'm going to do it this year. I don't think I'm going to get abroad and get out on my summer holidays anytime soon. That's kind of the last on our running order again. Are summer holidays on or off this year? We've got Boris June. You can't go anywhere. If you leave the country, you're going to get a £5,000 fine.

58:02 Someone joked on the Tinternet this week. That was still cheaper than going on a Centre Parks holiday. Yes, that was a new thumb. How do they get away with it, Centre Park? I think it's because I do want to go. I want to go away, but not just with the kids. I just want to do a sea break. I just want to get out of the country for my own mental sanity. I've not left the country since 2019. I went to Dublin for the weekend. That was the last time I went abroad. And I'm not saying I'm hugely troubled, but somehow I've managed to get away a few times every year. And last year, the furthest I got was Ely Ely.

58:45 Well, I went to Manchester for a weekend, but that was pre-lockdown. And then in between lockdowns, a friend of mine, he was doing some genealogy stuff. And he booked a little cottage in the middle of Cambridgeshire and said, look, look, do you want to come and just stay in one of the spare rooms? You can work during the day. He'll go off and do his family history. and uh then we'll just eat and drink all night and we was just in the in the middle of a field in the middle of cambridgeshire and it was lovely but not exactly exactly luxurious or exotic no no no no i i don't know i don't know what's going to happen i'm pretty much

59:20 thinking about booking a caravan again like we did last year basically because we did get away and it was fun it was fun Yeah, I got to Wales last year with the kids. Ever since a divorce, I've wanted the kids to have something they didn't have before. And so the first year we did a road trip around the UK. Just literally just go. I'd say, where do you want to go next? And they'd say, Stonehenge. So we'd drive to Stonehenge. Where do you want to go next? Chocolate Wocky Doo Dars. So we'd drive to Brighton. Where do you want to go next? I don't know, up a mountain. So we'd drive to Wales. And that was the first year. And then the second year went to Croatia and also popped over to Venice. And I took them to what's the one north of that? Serbia or something. I don't know. I can't remember which one.

1:00:02 Slovakia. And then the third year I went to Greece and popped over to Albania as well. And I was thinking every year, that's just trying to go away. And last year, all I could manage was a caravan in Wales. But it was a holiday, and my kids haven't really had holidays before divorce. So that was all I could manage. That's what we'll do. This year, anything, anything at all. I would even go to Butlin's Bognar Regis. I'm going to Bogner Regis for my birthday weekend. Are you really? Called the Bun Bun Bun Holiday Park. When's your birthday, Johnny? May 12th, coming up. May the 12th. That's not far.

1:00:46 That's not far. Yeah. And what we will be able to have a drink in Westmorning. I cannot wait for that. You're only a couple of miles away as the crow flies. I can ride my bike and do like a comedy journey home. Hey, hell, one day, maybe not even trying to count chicken until it's deep fried in a bucket in front of me. One day, maybe I can third wheel on one of your dates. No. I'm not going to say, I'm not going to say double date. It's only got a popper tweet out, and surely there's a line of women at the front door.

1:01:25 You'd be surprised. Even if they're those who would respond, I'm sure are not women that maybe I would want to be double dating with. Okay. Well, that being said, if you are a sexy woman, then call me. Call me. A, you can third wheel. B, surely there's definitely prospective women out there who are going to be just flipping, busting to get out and go to the swan in. Hopefully, some of those second and third and fourth marriages would have failed over lockdown. This is going to be the star of the next roaring 20s. You're very attractive, but can I just check?

1:02:07 Is this first, second, or said, like, if it's fourth marriage, then definitely you're in. You're in. It's completely devoid of all emotion. She's like, here's my checklist. Read it. Give me four out of five or nine off. What the deals are. I like on Getu. Does he look emotionally stunted? No. Does he look like he's going to bundle me in the back of a van? No. And in that case, you know what? The rest of it is fine. Absolutely brilliant. Brilliant. Well, Glenn, good to hang out with you. The wrap-up. I hope everyone's enjoyed it. We're here every week. And this is this is

1:02:47 when I was in a hole, right? I listened to podcasts a lot. And I know a lot of, you know, for men driving home, salespeople, people who commute, people who get up early and work. You've got single dads who are at home on their own sometimes and feeling a bit like fed up that they're on their own. The wrap-up, Glenn and I's intention is to just basically, well, we enjoy it because we're just hanging out. So that's kind of what we're up to. And we'll be one of those overnight success one night, Glenn. We'll say something awfully inappropriate and it will go viral. And then that's how we're going to become famous.

1:03:28 Did you hear what that Johnny Jensen said? I'll tell you what, that'll be the thing that said at my funeral. If he hadn't said, if he hadn't said those words, he'd still be alive today. It was going so well, Dot. But anyway, please share this. Give us a like, review. Of course, subscribe. You might be watching this on YouTube or Facebook or LinkedIn. But also, definitely subscribe to the podcast. And we look forward to seeing you. seeing you next week. Glenn, take care, buddy. Team Super Dad out. Bye.

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