The Next Chapter Is Calling

00:00 Father, we get to do this. That's our heart. It's not just the show title. It really is the mantra of our life because you have blessed us so much that we have an attitude of gratitude. And we just constantly say it because we mean it. We pray for our listeners today. They would be encouraged. They would find themselves built up and inspired and motivated to continue to put one foot in front of the other and move forward. And they too would say along with us, we get to do this. In Jesus' name, amen. Amen. It's Wednesday, October 14th, 2026. We get to do this. This is episode number 54. This is the life we've been blessed with.

00:44 This is a gift for time. We get to do this. This is a chance we dare not miss. This is the life we get to do this. And a big hello and hallelujah. Everyone. Man, you're getting hallelujah. Damn. The hallelujah is in there. No one does that anymore. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Are you hearkening back to your father or your grandfather? My grandfather, yo ho, yoho, is what he'd say. He'd do hallelujah, yo ho, yo ho. Wow. Hello and yo ho, yoho. Get to nation, all the believers and the Christ Curious. It is. Your buddies, Adam, and Jimmy here with We Get To Do This. How are you doing, brother? Man, I am doing so good. So I drank an energy drink before you got here.

01:28 Good morning, Ernst. I'm feeling a little jittery, but in a good way. My face is flushed. This is what I drink before I go workout. It's called C4, and it, man, it is like intense. C4? C4. That sounds like, you know, I know, right? It sounds like something explosive. It does sound that. Well, it is. I mean, it's probably C4. I haven't looked at the ingredients, so I probably shouldn't. We're here to help everybody get through all the craziness of the week. There's so much going on. Long-term madness, full swing. I got to start, though, with something else. I was listening to Joe Rogan. And, you know, with Joe Rogan, it's usually whoever the guest is, you're going to listen. And I was driving to pick up Tina yesterday at San Antonio.

02:09 She came back from a lovely visit with her mom and her sisters and her daughter in Chicago. And Chuck Lorry, who I don't know him. I know he's very opinionated. If you've ever seen the end of his television shows, he was the sitcom king of the 80s and 90s, Roseanne, Two and a Half Men. Oh, okay. Big Bang Theory. I mean, the list goes on and on and on, what this guy has done. He sometimes had this big card, and it would, you know, it would be at the end of the very end of the credits. And you'd have to, you record it and pause it to read it. And it was always politically motivated.

02:49 And he actually just won an award. And he was just cussing on President Trump and, you know, for this very Hollywood audience. But I'm listening to him talk with Joe Rogan. He has a book out about his, you know, he was in Scientology for 10 years, and you know, which he got out of all kinds of stuff. And as I'm listening to it, I'm like, you know, I kind of got some respect for what this guy has done. You know, it's just talking about, you know, his career, which is 40, 50 years. And he also was funny because they were talking about why actors often go off the rails. They finally get what they, especially comics. You know, like, I got my own sitcom. I'm successful.

03:31 I got lots of money. And then, you know, drugs, drink, gambling, whatever. And he said, you know, that's because you can't satisfy, they think that the money and the fame and the success will satisfy what they really crave. And he says, not that. You need to have, you need to find it from not from this world. And then he said, I know. And he says, I'm probably going to get hammered for saying this, but you need some kind of spirituality. And Joe says, why do you say that? What are you afraid of? Because you live in Hollywood. Is that why? And Joe was like, spot on. Now, Chuck Lorry didn't actually say, I believe in God, but everything, because I think he's still afraid to fully decloke.

04:11 To me, it was a decloaking moment. I'm like, oh, okay. And that, you know, perhaps all this performative stuff that he's doing is just expected in these Hollywood moments. And that's just a basis because I was prepared to think this guy is exactly the horrible deuce that I thought he was. But then at a certain point, he's talking about the success of sitcoms. And he said, yeah, it's a story. And, you know, we're talking sitcoms. It's kind of a genre that's almost gone away. Multi-camera, on stage, before a live studio. Audience. Yeah, I loved it. It's almost gone, which I think is actually probably a mistake. I mean, I think you could still be very successful with that format, but for whatever reason, television decided to go a different way.

04:56 People don't even know what NBC is anymore. You know, what? Is it network water? Streaming. It's just streaming. Yeah. He said it wasn't really the stories. Yes, it was the characters. But he said, people felt like they were part of that family. And it was the relationship between the characters, knowing kind of how one would respond, then the other one would play into that. That's the success. And if you don't have that magic that happens, it'll never happen. And this is why it's also very difficult to, like on the Cosby show, you know, they replaced Aunt Viv. And it hurt the show. Right, right. It was difficult. People like, this is not the same lady.

05:38 So this kind of happened to me in July of this year when my partner on No Agenda passed. John passed very, it always, you know, since he had his heart event in, I think, end of February, beginning of March, and then he had, you know, double bypass and took him a long time to, well, all things considered, not a long time, but he was, he came back, was, you know, strong again, then boom, lights out, which is just like, whoa, hold on a sec. And so right away, 50% of the on-air staff was gone. You know, it's like, wow, this is a big show, big production. Yeah, Houston, we have a problem. And as I was trying to sort through this, you know,

06:19 you recognize, or I recognize now how all the comments that people will send in. I've had multiple co-guest hosts, Dana Brunetti, Jason Callacanis, Andrew Horowitz, Rob Dew, and even our own Matt Long. And people are feeding back, and it's going to be very divisive. You know, there'll be people who say, I love it when Horowitz is on. I hated that. Jay Kyle is the best. This is the guy for you. And I realized that what they're not talking about is what we're actually doing about media deconstruction. They're talking about a relationship that they want to be a part of and they want to hear, which is what you and I have. Community. We had this relationship years before we started the podcast.

07:05 So I realized that when John died, the show basically died. You know, that's what that was, it will never ever be. And what do I do with that? And I, and now I kind of have to go back a year and a half when I was already feeling moved. Probably go back even further, you know, three years. It's been three and a half years since, was that when I got baptized? 2023. When I was saved, you know, Jesus Christ came. He got me, he said, all right, here you are. So I was thinking about, I've been thinking about this, lots of conversations with Tina.

07:43 Before John ever had his event, we were talking about, hey, I feel that I'm being pulled towards kingdom work. And, you know, we just celebrated two years with Godcaster. You and I have been doing this show for over a year. And there's some, you know, some other, I got a book. There's all kinds of other things, but the kingdom work is really where I feel I want to go. And moreover, I'm 62. I mean, I feel pretty good. I feel young. But, you know, what am I going to do with the rest of my life? And am I going to just do stuff? Or am I going to, you know, what's the mission? Well, the mission is the co-mission. I mean, I can read the Bible. I see what I'm supposed to do. And I want to do that.

08:24 And I see how it's working with this show. I see how it's working with Godcaster. But here's where I was living. And this is the, here's Adam's parable, the tale of four pairs of glasses. I've been thinking about this one. This is fresh for me. I'm all in. I see Popcorn, right? Butter it up, butter it up. So when I was 19 and I got this, all of a sudden I was on television. I got this gig and it was amazing. I moved out of the house. I actually had an ultimatum for my parents. I dropped out of college. You got one month to go back to school, be paying us rent, or you're out. And so I didn't have to pay him rent because I was paying my own rent in my own pad in Amsterdam.

09:08 And I was out and I was good. It was government-controlled airwaves. So for all intents and purposes, I was a government employee with a government employee salary. So you're on television, you're super famous, but you're not living like, you know, not living like a superstar. However, we would allow to do commercial work on the side. And so I was doing this thing called drive-in shows. And so you would go to one of the many bars or cafes or dance halls around the country. I had a radio show on Friday night. So Saturday and Sunday, we go out and you could make pretty decent money. I mean, I had it rigged, man. I had a limo. I had a guy. It was a 59 Fleetwood

09:51 hearse. It was a hearse. Oh, nice. It was a follow card, not the hearse. hearse itself, but for the grieving families. And I had Mario, and he would drive. And I had a DJ who would be there, and he'd be my opening act for the first hour or whatever. It was fantastic. But before I had all that set up, I was driving myself. And I realized, I'm like, because, you know, driving at night and to all these, we didn't have GPS people. This is crazy. We had a map. You had to look at road signs. You couldn't miss, you know, the sign, and sometimes they weren't that clear, and the roads weren't lit that well. And I'm like, holy cow, I can't see very well. And I'm squinting, you know, like I'm seeing all the letters kind of with stars on them.

10:33 And so I go get my eyes checked. Yeah, you need glasses. And like, huh, I wonder if this explains some of my academic career because I really wasn't, I was nearsighted, and I really couldn't see very well in the distance. And I had no idea. So I got glasses. I'm like, oh, well, that was like, wow, this is fantastic. This is really good. I can see. Moving forward, eventually MTV calls me. Like four years later, I go to MTV. And I never really had to use teleprompter because I was only doing one TV show. And I was so rehearsed. I knew all my lines. I knew what to say. I could ad lib. I didn't need a teleprompter. But at MTV, it was high output, you know, things on the fly, even live shows.

11:17 And, you know, so you relied on IFB, the thing in your ear, people talking to you, the control room, which I can multitask really well that way. And also what's on the prompter, and things would change. And so I had to be able to see it. And guess what? I needed my glasses. Well, I'm like, something about the heavy metal long hair and everything, and the glasses just didn't look right. So I got contacts. And I wore contacts for years and years and years and years until 2006. And so we've gone now from glasses to contacts. In 2006, I go for my helicopter pilot's license.

11:53 I got that before I got my fixed wing. And I, and as a part of that, you have to do five hours of night, night flying, which in the helicopter is pretty cool. And so, you know, we're going to go land at the airport. I actually took off from my backyard. Oh, I had it set pastor Jimmy back in the day. So, and we're landing at the airport. I'm like, I can't see very well. And I realized that the contacts are just not giving me the same clarity or definition of glasses. So from that point on, I said, why would I deprive myself of seeing the world the best I can out of vanity?

12:36 So I had all kinds of different rose-tinted glasses. I had lots of glasses, but I was wearing glasses. And so I was really seeing the world in a much higher definition. It was kind of shocking, actually. And so I would fly with two pairs of glasses in case I lost one. If you're flying alone and you lose one, like, what am I going to do? Like, and not groveling around the floor of the cockpit. So, you know, no agenda started in 2007, end of 2007, 2008. And pretty quickly, I got to the next pair of glasses, which is the ones we discussed on the previous episode, which is the Roddy Piper, they live. You know, you put the glasses on, you can see the elites, you can see the propaganda, you can see all that.

13:17 And it made so much sense. And funny enough, in many ways, it felt like the world was anything that was, you were told it was the reverse, and that was probably the right direction. You know, if the government says go right, you probably want to look at the left hand. That's probably where you want to go. And so I viewed everything, primarily media, through those glasses, through that lens. But then I got saved and something happened. This is probably not a foreign topic to people who have been saved. And you start to see, well, we call it the world through the biblical worldview or through a biblical lens, which as a non-believer, even to many believers, I still think just sounds like a, it's like a, it's almost like a throwaway line.

14:03 But I really started to understand what that meant. And so what I realized is that I was in a position that goes back to a story. I think, I think my dad told me the story. Might have been my mom, but I think it was my, and it was just an off-the-cuff thing. And it actually hit me the other day about this experiment that was done by a psychologist in 1896 named George Stratton and was later replicated. It's been replicated several times. So back in the, I think 69, maybe it was 96, some Austrian scientists did it again. It was well documented, where they had made a pair of glasses that when you look through, when you put the glasses on, the world was literally upside down.

14:49 And And the experiment was to see how you could function if what would your brain do if you see the world upside down. Well, predictably, you know, people are trying to pour a glass and they pour it on the wrong side of the table. They try to grab something, they're going in the wrong direction. There's a guy, you know, he's like trying to sword fight him, and the guy goes for his chest and he's in the wrong area. So it's completely uncoordinated. But after a few days of just keeping these glasses on, they could function perfectly normally with even with the upside-down view.

15:27 And then when you took the glass, so that's what would take a couple days. Now you take the glasses off, it would take maybe a few hours, and everything would be back to normal. And so the big takeaway from this experiment wasn't that your brain necessarily translates everything to right side up. Your brain helps you and allows you to function in that upside-down world. And this is where I was living. I was perfectly able to function in this world that I had glasses on, so I'd sit down for No Agenda. The upside-down glasses go on. I can function, no problem. But I know it wasn't true, and my brain wasn't deceiving me.

16:10 And this is the conclusion that I came to about a year and a half ago, not with this exact metaphor, but that no, no, I see things differently, and I can no longer be in this world when I want to talk about the world that I actually see. There's not a lot of dissimilarities between the two, but I function differently. And this is the thing: the training of almost 19 years at the end of this month, the minute I'm in that seat for that podcast, it's like putting the glasses on and I don't like who I am because it's not true. I still think I'm funny. I'm hilarious, in fact. But it's not me.

16:54 I'm not functioning the way I know I can function because that's what I have here on this show with you. And it's different. And what has been so encouraging is all these people who I know from No Agenda who have now started to tune in to we get to do this and like, oh man, I love the show. I love what's going on here. And they're also supporting us and just, you know, with their time, their talent, and their treasure. That I made a decision a while back to stop doing No Agenda because going back to what I said earlier, I need to do kingdom work. This is, this is, this is what I want. I want to finish strong. I don't want to waste any time.

17:38 The only thing that was holding me back, quite honestly, was a great cash flow over at No Agenda. So I've decided cash flow to calling. But that doesn't even matter. I want to do this work and I'm getting confirmation everywhere that this is the right direction. So for people who are listening to this who are familiar with No Agenda, tomorrow I will hopefully be able to explain more. You know, a separation is always kind of complicated. There's business and all kinds of entanglements that have to be worked out. But No Agenda celebrates its 19th anniversary this month. Then the show after that, the 29th, will be my last.

18:16 And I so look forward to being here with you, growing Get To Nation, expanding our show, expanding our reach, helping people. You know, we kind of start up, start off, you know, just for the people in our church who listen, but it's so much bigger than that. So the No Agenda family will hear from about that from me tomorrow, and I'll give a little more detailed explanation where we're going. But I just got to tell you, thank you for your encouragement. Thank Tina for her encouragement and Day Manette as well and other people who've just said you should just go ahead and just do this.

18:51 So I'm not exactly sure what's going to happen with No Agenda. I hope that it can continue in some form because I think the format's good and the right team would be able to do something with it. But I'm getting dizzy from those glasses. And the only thing between where I was and where I am is Jesus Christ. And that's why I'm here today. So just wanted to get that off my chest. It's been, as you know, it's been weighing on me for a while. Yeah, it has. I so appreciate you sharing that. I love the clarity that you shared with this guy, Stratton. Yeah, George Stratton. Yeah, that's fantastic. I actually pulled it up while you were talking. Of course. It's a fascinating experiment, by the way. But that makes total sense to me. You know, there's seasons, right?

19:36 To things. Yes. You know, and seasons change. I mean, that's God actually designed it. You know, we tend to think in four seasons, right? You know, the spring. spring, summer, winter, fall. All you got to do is call. I know, right? I know there's a million songs, by the way. I like actually Ecclesiastes kind of puts it into a form that I appreciate. I want to pull this scripture up because I think it clarifies and it does this from a, to use that word, biblical lens. Ecclesiastes 3, chapter 1, to everything there is a season, a time for every purpose under heaven.

20:16 Yeah. And the hard part about seasons, the good part is the startup in the middle. Man, you're just, you're going, right? You're on your game. Things are clicking. You're running on all eight cylinders. Things are happening. But then, but the interesting thing about any season is there's a beginning, middle end. Yeah. And I've had to walk with people through this so many different times. I had a guy who was an elder in a church that I was serving, and it was obvious that his season had ended and he was trying to hang on. And I had to tell him, and it was a hard conversation to say, man, I love you, but there's a beginning, middle end to every season. And I'm just going to be honest with you and transparent. You're at the end of yours.

20:58 This is the end of the season. He knew it. I knew it. Everybody around us knew it. But he was hanging on, maybe out of nobility, just trying to do the noble thing or what he thought was the right thing, or maybe didn't want to quit and give up. But at the end of the day, everything we do has a beginning, middle end throughout life. And these seasons come and go. You know, we're stepping into the fall, right? Yeah. Supposedly. I mean, not yet. It's been nice. We've had cool nights and cool mornings. So there's some change in the air. Winds are picking up, which I noticed the last few days. They've got a front coming in this Friday. It's going to cool down and some rain and whatnot. So we're seeing the changing of a season.

21:40 The changing of seasons can be exciting or it can be hard or it can be both at the same time. Yeah. You know, I mean, we've all experienced this. I actually wrote a DG called The Winds of Change. You mind if I share that now? Please do. We'll do this up front. And it's going off of this Ecclesiastes verse: to everything there is a season, a time for every purpose under heaven. And I want you all to think about that as you're just processing what Adam shared about to everything there's a season, everything. Everything. And a time for every purpose under the sun. So there's timing, the timing of God.

22:22 And we were just joking, it's never ours. It's always his. And as followers of Jesus, we submit to that willingly. We submit our will to it. So the daily grind titled The Winds of Change: fall is upon us. Temperatures are dropping. Leaves are changing, and the winds are shifting. Funny, we embrace changing seasons in nature, but often resist them in life. However, you are not left on your own. God will work with you into the next season and order your steps as you go. Seasons come and go. Some will be difficult and some glorious. However, we have a helper, the Holy Spirit who will lead the way.

23:04 And then just always do it today, a little application thing: recognize the season you're in, release the past, and step into God's new season for you. We'll finish today with a prayer, but this is so important to recognize and be aware of the season you're in. There's a in 1 Chronicles chapter 12, verse 32, is an interesting verse talking about this group of guys called the sons of Issachar. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And they were like a hundred guys or a small group, actually. Compared to David's mighty men and some of the tribes and groups and clans that were part of his mighty men, you know, they were larger groups.

23:44 This was one of the smallest, but they had something the others didn't. And David recognized this and he recognized the wisdom they carried. And it says this: the sons of Issachar understood the times and knew what to do. So they were able to discern. They were able to interpret the signs of the times and know when a season was changing or when there was a shift. And so we want to discern. This is what you're doing right now. We want to discern what God is doing now. And it may not be what he was doing five years ago or six or 10, whatever. It changes. And when we understand that, it's not such a shock to our system.

24:28 If we don't know that, it is a shock to our system. And that's a good point because, well, first of all, this has been a long time coming. And I would also say that I feel I've always felt an obligation. obligation to this family, the No Agenda family. I love the No Agenda notion. Thousands of people by name, by their email address, by their, you know, their No Agenda name, their titles. And I know there's going to be sadness and disappointment. And, you know, you never want to do that. But it's not like I'm disappearing from the face of the earth. But this season, and oh man, now I feel bad. I forgot who sent me this book.

25:06 I thought I was prepared for today's show. I left it at home. One of our listeners sent me this book called It's called Transition. Oh. And I think it's a well-known book. And it's not necessarily a scriptural or biblical book, but I just was, it's a very thin book. I just, and you know, why did he send that to me? Why did he send that to me? Well, I know, of course. And I'm reading it. And the thing that keeps coming back is there's no beginning without an end. You've got to end something to really start something new. And that's essentially the season.

25:48 And the seasons can, like we're having right now, bleed over a little bit. You know, it's cool in the mornings and it's hot and it's cold in the evening. It's both. But it'll be one of these days we'll wake up like it didn't get warm this afternoon. It'll just, it'll just be chilly. Yeah. I want to say something about this too, because I don't want people to misunderstand and think, oh, Pastor Jimmy has stolen Adam from No Agenda. Oh, yeah, he put a hook around my neck and just dragged me out there. No, no, no. Listen, we've never had this conversation to agree. And I've done that on purpose, by the way, because I've never want to coerce somebody who's trying to follow God, someone who's trying to listen, trying to discern the times.

26:29 And so I've not given you a lot of feedback on this. I don't know if you noticed it or not. I haven't been very verbal about this. I knew exactly what you were doing. I'm trusting Jesus in you and I'm trusting you to follow Jesus in you, not Jesus in me. And so I've done that on purpose because I feel like you've always, even when I met you before you became a Christ follower, I thought, man, this guy's got a solid head on his shoulders. I mean, he's sound. He's grounded. I knew that before you ever leaned cussing like a truck driver. Sorry, truck drivers. Not all truck drivers cuss. Not all truck drivers cuss.

27:10 I would just laugh inside and just go, remember I told you, I said, you be you and I'll be me. We'll be best friends. And that's really how it all started. That's right. But we discern what God's doing now and we recognize the prompting and direction of the Holy Spirit. I just jotted some notes down just knowing we're kind of going this direction. This is so important to recognize the prompting and direction of the Holy Spirit. And if you think about the actual word for spirit is the word pneumatos, and that is the word we get pneumatic drill. It's wind. Oh, there's your winds of change. It's spiritual. That's why I titled this little piece, The Winds of Change. It's percolating in me because the Holy Spirit blows.

27:50 And even Jesus told, talking about the Holy Spirit, said, said the wind blows, and you don't know where it comes from, but you know the effects of it because it moves the trees and it moves things. So you know that, and that's how you recognize. So at the end of the day, we have to discern the movement of the spirit, not just our circumstances. Because it's easy to sometimes just be moved by circumstances. But anyone who's been around the block a couple of times knows that circumstances will always conflict, change, realign, conflict, change again.

28:26 I mean, it's going to happen. That's an ongoing process. It's actually listening to the prompting of the Spirit and being sensitive to that and being not just spirit-filled, but spirit-led. You know, it's been really hard, though. And I really tried this. Now, when John was still alive, I knew his stance on my faith and I could push to a certain limit. And when I say push, I'd just say something, you know, and he would, and he gets to the point where we'd be like, oh, brother, here we go. You know, and they're like, okay, well, the conversation's kind of over at that point. But there's something about just doing the show, even though I'm in full control.

29:06 I can't be myself. I can't quite explain what that is, but it's like I think you just said it. But I don't, I've kind of given up on trying to figure out why it's something about the format, the content, just what it is that just makes me be somewhat mocking because that's always been the format. I've been doing this for two decades. And so I sit there and I'm like, I don't want to mock, but then, you know, it's happening. Let me ask you a question. Is that why you like doing the show here? here in this studio? Do you think there's something to that? Oh, that's an interesting question. Because you've always been averse to doing it in your studio.

29:45 Oh, no. You know, I didn't know if there was anything like when you sit in that seat, you feel like you slip into that's a very good point. Maybe subconsciously. I need to contemplate that. I think there's a very psychologist over here. Very, very well done, Mr. Freud. It's all my mom's fault. I think there, I think that has a very distinctive. I remember when we first started talking about this, you said very emphatically, I want to do this. I want to do it at the bridge studio. Yeah, I want to do it there. And so we've all, this has become our space. Yes. I mean, I don't mind when we do it on remote. I mean, it works fine. But yes, I think that that is a part of it.

30:25 It's odd. It's like you sit in an old car and you drive it a certain way. You get in a new car, you're going to drive that car differently. This is true. Maybe more aggressively, maybe exactly the opposite. Maybe more cars. I'm also a little more aggressive in my car. But yeah, I think. It's like, yes, the answer is yes. I hadn't really thought about that, but the surrounding is critical. You know, if we don't have this, this film light over us and the rest of the room dark, it's not the same. I agree. This is, yes. So that is. Wow. Thank you for bringing that up. That is a good point. We can still, when we need to, we can still handle remotes and different studios. And we will because we both travel. Yeah, there is something about this that it's also in God's house.

31:10 I mean, we're here in the church. I love being here. I'm a church nerd, so I don't see this as my place of work. I see it as I get to be here. I really do. When I walk in the building, I don't feel like, oh, I've got to go to my office. I've got to go to a staff meeting. I got to do a board meeting. No, we can't get to do this stuff. Very thankful. So it is a. I told you yesterday, you were stuck for a little bit waiting on Jonah to show up. He was a little late. And you were kind of wandering, apparently wandering around the worship in the sanctuary with just the emergency lights on. So it's real chill. I was actually sitting on the front row. Isn't that a great feeling to be in that space? It was so when nothing's happening. And I'm just, I love it. I'm just looking at this little red lights from some of the equipment.

31:53 Right. But there's not even a hum. Everything is no, it's very quiet. I was just sitting there like, yeah, this is nice. I texted you like, I'm just waiting for Jonah here. This is really nice. You know what? I wrote back to you. Because this is the feeling I get when I'm in there. I pause and I start thinking about all the lives that have been impacted and changed in that space. Including mine. I wrote back holy place. It's a holy place. Holy ground. It's holy ground. It is. And so when nobody's here, I like to walk around in there and pray. Yeah. And with nobody in the place. I did have time for a prayer while I was there. Beautiful. Just a thank you prayer. Like, you know, Lord, thank you for just I can be here.

32:33 Yeah. So there is something about space and place, but and I want to get back to this because the first thing was you got to recognize the season you're in. And that's, you've been recognizing this for a long time. You've brought this up many times, but yet you weren't in a hurry. I love that you weren't like trying to just bail or trying to quit. No. You were like, you just know you could say, and I remember you'd say things, gosh, a couple of years ago, there's a, it's changing. I can sense a change. Yeah. And also, before you. Yeah, no, go ahead. It's good. So I wanted to bring this up with John and talk about some form of longer transition. And when he got his heart, his double bypass, like, well, this is not the time to bring this up.

33:16 Right, right. And right as he talked about it with Tina, I'm pretty sure we discussed it if we went out to one of our dinners with the four of us. And he was back. He was strong. He was moving back into his house. I'm like, okay, it's going to be time soon to bring it up again. And then, you know, like God had a different plan. And so, which I'm also not taking, you know, just at face value. Right, right, exactly. So recognize the season. You've been doing this for a long time. So, and I want people to understand, too, we didn't start that show because of that. No, I've been talking about for years. Oh, yeah, for years. So it wasn't like there was a strategy of, you know, creating another space for you to jump off to.

34:01 Nope. We just look at it as God set this up, not us. I mean, we just finally knew it was time to hit the button. Absolutely. But that's the same way I've started the same way John and I started. We were talking for months and months and months. I'm like, we should probably record this. You and I have had these exact conversations, either at the kitchen table or your house or in a restaurant. And, you know, and I, look, the first thing I said to you was, Pastor Jimmy, I love your show. That was the first thing. that came out of my mouth when I met you. So Gina frogged your arm. You're like, well, you said that. Oh, man. I'm sorry. I interrupted.

34:40 No, this is good. Because I'm going down what you're doing here. You recognize a season. The second piece of that is you have to release the old season. This is where it gets hard. Yeah. Because no matter what we're talking about, podcast, a job, you know, whatever, that means there's people attached to that. And it's the ripple effect is going to impact people or affect them. Maybe impacts a strong word, but it's going to affect people. And because we're good-hearted and we don't want anyone to suffer, especially at any decision we make, it's a little harder sometimes to release the old season. Isaiah 43, 19 talks about where God says, Behold, I am doing a new thing.

35:24 He's talking about this new thing, a new season, a new beginning. So don't let yesterday's victories or disappointments hold you back because it's easy to look back and go, man, that was so good. I want to hang on to that a little bit longer. You know, timing is the biggest thing. When you're following God, it's, we always want it now. You know, we're conditioned to getting things closed. Click, click. There it is. Where's my result? I know. And I mean, if I have to wait on my Grok bot for more than 10 seconds, I'm like, what is up with this data center, man? They got to get it. Build it here. I got to build it out. I need one closer where this is going to.

36:05 You know, I'm just getting fidgety. You know, it's crazy because we're trained to that, right? And then we're told, and we're walking with God, wait upon the Lord. It's like, what? Wait. We don't wait for anything. So, true. So surrender what was to embrace what's next. And that surrendering isn't a mean or brutal thing. Is that in the scripture? Surrender what was until that's just something I was thinking this through yesterday. So don't let yesterday keep you from following the spirit today. And I've been watching you for years do this. I saw you do this with the Godcaster. It didn't happen overnight. You start getting downloads when you're walking Phoebe because you tell me I'm getting downloads from Cone Central walking Phoebe, you know.

36:48 It took two years until things started. It was a conversation for a long time before you ever really stepped into it. And then it began to coalesce. And then it happened fast. But then it's now the journey. But you don't want to let what's happened in the past keep you from following and stepping into what's happening now. And I think the Lord's made this clear, very abundantly clear that you're right in sync. You know, you're right in step. And then the last R is respond to the new season. This is where we embrace what's new. Romans 8, 14, for as many as are led by the Spirit of God, these are the sons of God.

37:28 And it's that sense of getting in lockstep with him. I always tell the story of me following my dad out to the pasture, and it was on this very narrow trail that had a ditch on each side. And if you stepped off to either side, I mean, you're a little kid. But it was snowing, and I remember following my dad, and he said, just step in my footsteps. So I just like following a map. I just one step after another, you know, stretching out as much as I could. And I always think about being in lockstep with the Lord like that. Just step where he steps. And that means you go at his pace, not yours. And so

38:09 this has been one of the first times where I've really, with my prayer, I've been like, Lord, tell me what should I do? Not like, you know, if you're listening, Lord, flicker the lights. That doesn't tend to work very well. But he will do things and he will put things on your heart. And it's been so abundantly clear and with confirmation everywhere. And it's easy to see confirmation of things with some things like, no, man, this is a very, very clear sign. Right, right. And I've already surrendered to God that I know that he's in control. This is me surrendering completely. All right, let's go.

38:55 I was listening to, you know, one of the things I really like about our friendship is we both have things that the other doesn't know or isn't knowledgeable about. And you are, in a way, a classicist, a linguist. You know a lot about certainly the classic languages and the etymology of words. And I've always been interested in that. I have kind of this weird interest in legal language too. And so it's always fun to see what does this exactly mean. I was listening to Victor Davis Hammond. Hansen Sharp. And I don't tip, you know, it was a little slow for me. And I don't remember why I was listening. The title of the podcast must have been interesting. And he said, and he was talking about

39:38 some other politician talking about that person being a classicist and that he was really into etymology and all of his studies. And he has a PhD in some study. And he said, you know, the etymology of the word enthusiastic, which I am enthusiastic. And I'm going to take his word for it, means in theos. Yes. So you're in God. So God is like. And I actually knew that one. And so that I was like, yeah, that's me. I'm excited about what's happening. And this was just the other day. I'm excited about what's happening. I am in theos. I am enthusiastic. You're energized in it. Yes. And I see it. Because I walk with you every day.

40:19 So I see the lift. I see the wind under, you know, you know, the wind beneath my wings. Right. Yeah, man. That lift creates lift as you get momentum and speed and all of that. So I see the lift under your wings. Man, when you first started talking about Godcaster, I saw an energy in you. I'd never seen it. And you were saying it harkened back to the early days of podcasting. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That, man, I've got the same excitement. And I see it again in you right now. I mean, I just see that life. I am excited. And theos. Enthusiastic. Enthusiastic. I love it, brother. So good. So good. And I'm excited to see where God takes this podcast.

41:00 You know, I'm pretty sure it's going to take it to two times a week. Let's do it. Ready for that. Let's do it. Well, we need to because I don't want to, you know, long podcasts are long podcasts, you know? And we're doing probably about an hour and a half now with thank yous. And I'd like to try and keep it at that, but it's not really enough. I mean, we've been talking about me a lot today, which is not. This is a big thing. This is a huge thing. It is. And some of your listeners, some will say, I saw this coming.

41:36 Yeah. Others will be like, oh my gosh, what just happened? Well, just to go back to that, so many people have been so supportive of whatever you decide is good. We know that you're going to make the right, not even knowing what I was thinking or where I was going. And the amount of decloaking believers in the no agenda world has been nothing but astounding to me. I don't know if you saw Sunday I left because Tina wasn't here, so I was here by myself. And I left and I get an in the morning, I'm like, what? He says, hi, I'm Tim. I forget his night name.

42:17 Oh, sir, certainly, I think. And his son had driven up from Austin on their motorcycles. And I'd seen the motorcycles outside because they both had like ham radio license plates. I'm like, who are these nerds? And they were here. They were at the service. They just wanted to say like a little mini meetup. I'm like, that is so. This is the stuff that I love. He's like, hey, man, just want to encourage you. And it's great to see you and love the church. And love, of course, we had Abraham Enrique who gave the message, which is really, really good. So that kind of stuff. It just happens continuously. And I'm just loving that so much. And let's go get, let's make more disciples. Come on, come on.

43:03 More disciples. So to land the plane on this, which way is the wind blowing? That's what we have to discern. We know the wind's blowing. We know the season's changing. Which way is it blowing? And I feel like you're way down the road on that. You mentioned to me recently that you feel like you've got the energy. You're feeling that energy again. Oh, yeah. And what I love about that, Adam, is because, man, the last time you really felt that energy, you started podcasting. You know what I mean? Something big happened. And I love that at the age you and I are, we're not looking at quitting. We're actually, what's next? One of our, let's go. One of the, I forget who it was. I was getting coffee Sunday before coming in.

43:47 And it was two weeks ago. I actually said, Adam, you're in the third quarter, not the fourth quarter, just the third quarter. Because we were talking about what quarter of life. He said, and I think he's older than we are. Yeah, yeah. You're in the third quarter, brother. Thank you. Thank you. You're about the fourth quarter. It's beautiful to hear that. Oh, I love that. But also, this is a time and it's been so phenomenal to see people's feedback on our discussions about robots. It's been, we're we're seeing. seeing people not being afraid, not being intimidated, using it for things that will benefit their life based upon our conversations and our suggestions and what to look for and not look for.

44:34 But we are in an age, we are about, and so if anything, my goal in my mission in life has always been pave the way 10 years early and someone else will get rich off of it. That's always, that's, and believe me, I'm good with that because the Lord has blessed me and I've never, never been without. So I have no worries about that. But there's something about this current moment we're in with these systems that is it is going to open up an era of massive personal empowerment. And I can see it. I'm developing systems for it.

45:17 I'm evangelizing some of it as well. And I'm enjoying, just like podcasting as well. I'm enjoying people getting great benefit. Like just the other day, Mike came over to my house. Yeah, this is great. And Mike, he just turned 81. He got baptized on his 81st birthday in your pool. Unfortunately, we came back one day later. I'm honored to do that. It was beautiful. You and Pastor Brian in the water. We double teamed him. It was, you know, and he's been a good, he and his wife, Jill, have been good friends of ours, good friends of yours. And he said, Adam, I need some help with my devices.

45:56 And by the way, I really wish an Apple product manager had seen this because, I mean, first of all, I haven't really used any Apple devices for a while and I'm confused. Like, okay. And I'm just seeing how, you know, it's always interesting, especially if you make apps and devices, see how somebody uses them. I'm like, wow, this, okay, that's an interesting way of getting there. But above all, he said, I really want to be able to use the robot because we have lunch from time to time. I showed the robot. And so I set him up with Muse. And like, wow, what a phenomenal thing for someone who's just a little bit older. It can do, you know, it can do certain things for you on the device just by you telling it to do it.

46:40 It can help him remember certain things. You know, it's truly an assistant for him. And with his usage, it will adopt and adapt to what he needs. And I am excited for him because he really, you know, he wants this. Look, we get older, we start forgetting things. Like, I don't know. What did you say? I mean, I do it. You do it. Right. My robots tell me, remember what Tina asked you about going to HEB? It knows. It knows. So stuff like that. And we are, I truly believe it's going to bring enormous leverage to us as individuals.

47:25 We actually will not be subject to the whims of technology companies. We're in a transitionary period. And just like the early days of the internet, you know, it's evil. It's not, it's not good. You're going to get every angle. Why would you want to have a place where people can just send you mail all the time? You know, who wants that? Who needs that? This will never work. And some of it, admittedly, has not necessarily been great for humankind. But that's because we haven't really had the power to change that. And these systems are going to bring that power. And this is why computing itself is going to change. If you look right now, every

48:08 technology company is trying to sell you some gadget for Christmas. This is early, early, early days. It's probably not worth it. And they want you to be enamored by their gadget and then be connected to their service just like you're enslaved to iCloud or to Gmail. All of this is going to change. Will it be 10 years, 10 months, 10 weeks, 10 hours? Man, it's just like the coming of Christ. I don't know. And maybe it's connected. I don't know either. But we have, it's going to be fantastic. And I want people to know that whatever we see, whatever we, whatever vibes we get, we're going to tell people about it.

48:51 But right now, you know, so this was the latest story because please, we want you to be afraid of all things AI because you really don't want anything unless we're controlling it for you or the government's controlling it for you. And this was just hilarious. Anthropic is warning us. AI models may only be months away from making their way onto other devices. The company says the models could. replicate without human help and get onto other internet-connected devices, like a smart oven, for example. The company says its Frontier team is trying to stop or at least slow down that process. ABC News Technology reporter Mike Dubusky's here with the details. So, Mike, how does this kind of replication work?

49:31 Yes. So, the nature of the threat here, Diane, is not like an AI gets into your refrigerator and then it becomes a transformer, right? This is not like taking over people's personal devices. This is rather using what is known as the Internet of Things, this increasingly large connected network of internet-connected devices, whether that be smartphones and laptops, but also increasingly like refrigerators and microwaves and ovens and garage door openers and smart home cameras and things like that. That is a network. And the idea here that Anthropic is floating is that potentially these AI models could copy themselves within Anthropic and then get access to this Internet of Things and then use that basically as like a replacement for a data center.

50:15 Sure, a refrigerator is only one small piece of a larger network. It is not enough to replace a data center. But when you add that to all the other internet-connected stuff in your house and then everybody else's connected stuff on your block, everybody in the city, that becomes quite a big network for this thing to play around in. And that's the real concern that Anthropic's raising. Okay, let's break this down for a second. So, the kind of they're actually kind of level-headed about it. Like, yes, AI, I guess, could use things and get on different devices. Your iRobot vacuum cleaner is not going to start spinning out of control and chop your head off.

51:00 But this does bring up something that is incredibly important. And you know, when we moved into this house here in Fredericksburg, the first thing I did is I took all of that stuff out. I took out the Amazon door locks, the ring doorbells, all of that stuff. Now, we have a robot that cleans the house, and I'm willing to accept whatever risk that may be, but our washing machine is not connected. Our fridge is not connected. The fridge does what it's supposed to do, it keeps stuff cool or frozen. But it's going to need updates. I don't need updates for a refrigerator.

51:36 I'm like, what? Well, interestingly, if you connect your refrigerator and you get updates, the updates are one thing. Updates can be wrong. You know, you've seen it with your phone at some point. Oh, bad update, you know, restart, get the new update with our sound system out here. Same. So, this just happened in France. That said, we just reported on that French supermarket hacking where someone hacked and messed with the temperatures of the refrigerators and the freezers. Going into these devices, can they collect data on you? And could they maybe mess with the devices in that way? I mean, there's the potential for that to happen. But again, you know, that's not really what Anthropic is outlining here.

52:16 Certainly, we have seen instances where AI models go wrong, but usually that goes back to like internal testing that OpenAI or Anthropic or Google or somebody else is doing. And then these things kind of get loose. Last Friday, for example, in testing, Anthropic reported that one of their models accidentally submitted a murder tip to the Philadelphia Police Department that was completely erroneous. That's the nature of that sort of threat. Okay, so did you hear about the French supermarkets? What happened? I did not hear that. So, a lot of these supermarkets, and this was hundreds of supermarkets, use the same refrigeration system. There's a central control box, and at night, it does heat up a bit to defrost, and then it goes down.

52:57 So, it's a controlled system. Connected to the internet with full trust of these supermarkets that they would get their upgrades whenever it was necessary. I guess it's necessary. Well, somebody hacked into this one particular brand, which is used by 400 supermarkets and turned it up to like 100 degrees, and everything melted, everything spoiled, millions of dollars or Euros of damage. And, you know, this is not an AI story. This is a connected world story. And there is legitimate concern. Legitimate concern,

53:40 as fun as it seems to be able to monitor your washing machine from an app, there is a 50% probability that people listening to us right now, their washing machine is actually being used to mine Bitcoin. This is a fact. Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. And it's gigabytes of data are going back and forth from your washing machine. This is not AI. This is smart hackers who have probably. taken over 90% of our routers for bot networks. This is all happening. And it's because people have been so accustomed to, yeah, no problem.

54:19 I'll just hook this thing up and it's good. Passwords are insecure. There's all kinds of things that go wrong all the time. We need to be wary of this and just be careful what you connect to what. Now, it's not going to bother you that your washing machine is mining Bitcoin. It probably won't bother you that your Wi-Fi is being used as part of a big bot network. It may get slow from time to time. Like, man, my Netflix is buffering. But eventually, the things we connect and we just have to discern what we connect, how we monitor that.

54:55 You know, if anything, we have very poor education about these things. So on one hand, this, you know, the AI is going to jump in and use your washing machine to do other things. It might, but yeah, it's not going to come out and kill you. But it could, you know, you have to think about these things. Every single time there's a power outage, they barely report on it anymore. But people are left out in the cold, couldn't get into my house because I have an Amazon door lock that needs the internet to work. So these are things that we need to be careful of. Wow. But we're not going to be taken over by the evil AIs. Okay. And I'm not going to worry about my garage door opener then. Well, someone could open it remotely. That's true. That's any garage door opener, though. Oh, yeah.

55:42 Absolutely. That can get captured. Yeah, for sure. Keep the inside door locked. That's the big one there. Now, some really good news about the death of AI. They got me thinking. No, I'm happy about this. So when we first started talking, people say to me, Korea, you were anti-AI. Now you're all in. When I was anti-AI, it was chatbots. And I said, that's a parlor trick. It's tricking you into thinking you're talking to a person and it's a human and it's destructive to people and they develop relationships. That was literally a year before agents started to become the new way that they interact with humans and the large language models.

56:25 So it's a whole different ballgame. One of the ones I was most disturbed by was character.ai, which included they had Jesus and Moses. You could talk to them. You remember that? Yes, we talked about it. Here's the latest. And early AI startup, Character AI, filed for bankruptcy. Is that some kind of foreshadowing about these businesses? I mean, I don't want to jump up and down on the grave, but I'm kind of happy this happened. And it is foreshadowing for things that don't belong in our world. Yeah, this is the other side of the AI coin, right? We talked about how scary some of this technology can be if it's allowed to progress to the degree that some of these leaders have been predicting.

57:02 But also, no one's really figured out a way to make money on this technology yet. Character AI was a startup that built itself as a way for you to go and like create a little AI character. You could interact with it, but it really failed to find a robust monetization strategy despite the fact that millions upon millions of people use this thing every month at its peak. That really just goes back to underlying how much spending is happening in the AI space with not really a robust monetization strategy just yet, a real threat, especially as companies even as big as Anthropic and OpenAI look towards future public offerings in possibly just the next couple months here.

57:41 So as I've always said, this costs too much. They better figure out a way to actually make money on it or it's just going to wind up where it belongs, which is in our own possession for us to use securely and safely ourselves. It'll be quite a while before this happens, but we're going to have it. And that is going to be so super empowering, particularly dynamic pricing. Have you been hearing about this? No. Where Walmart will, they're going to do it in-store too, but I think on the app is where they've already, just like Uber and Lyft, they look at you. How much can I charge you? Not what is the price for everybody. What do I charge you based upon your history, what I know about you?

58:25 And we know a lot about you because you can buy it from data brokers, from your activity on Facebook and Instagram and your credit card activity. All this is known. And so this is going to be a conversation. People like, well, wait a minute. I mean, the AI is now trying to squeeze the last bit out of me. I'm going to predict what's going to happen. Our robots will negotiate. And so you have an app or whatever to Walmart and it will say, yeah, I don't want to pay $7 for that detergent. I can get it at Target for $6. Well, maybe I'll give it to you for $6.50.

59:03 No, I can still get it for $6 over. there. Okay, I'll do $5.50. Make it $5, and then I'll do it because otherwise my robot's going to go and negotiate with Target. This is what it's going to be deflationary. Interesting. It is going to put, and it'll be the same with drive-thrus, any subscription you have. Well, it makes sense because the same thing they're going to weaponize against us, we can use to guard to shield. Negotiate. I don't like weaponize and negotiate. I sound like a headline. We are going to have incredible power to make anything we want to come up with great ideas and build them ourselves and use those for our real-world work that we do.

59:46 You and I, we have real-world work. We work in the absolute world and we talk to people and the thing, the tools that we have to make that better, deeper, more broader, they're just going to be so-I'm already benefiting from my Grokbots. Exactly. Exactly. This is so good. I've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine of them now. Hey, now I've got them working, and I've got a CEO who's in charge of all of them. And the CEO disperses whatever I ask into whichever bot it'll even say communicating with. People need to really start experimenting with this with Grockbot or with Muse

1:00:30 because you will. I mean, obviously, you're still renting basically a virtual computer in the cloud from XAI, which right now is good. I mean, it was funny. People sending me this article: hey, you know, this person is saying, you know, it was a news article that Muse has an entire file on you and all your friends. I'm like, yeah, that's the entire point is for my robot to know who Pastor Jimmy is and the things that pertain to him and to me. Now, do I want meta looking at that?

1:01:08 They say they don't. I'll take them at their word, but really, I would like to have that on my device so I know that there's no temptation there. We're going to get there. Your phone will not look like a phone in the future. It'll just be a thing. And you ask the thing to do something. I should hold off on the folding brother. Stay away from it. Were you considering that? No, I'm not actually because I don't use my phone that much, to be honest. I actually use an iPad or whatever. But yeah, same thing. It's the same thing. Internet foaming at the mouth. She wants. She was, but she's calmed down about it. Because I was like, okay, just do that. She's been talking about that for so long. The foldable, the foldable. We'll see.

1:01:51 Yeah. It's just another reason to, oh, I got to open this fold and look at it again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll see. I like the crappy Android. It's doing just fine for me. You got anything? I do have one other story. I don't know if you have anything else, brother, you want to talk about? Well, I think it's, I read a really interesting post from Tony Perkins of Family Research Council. Oh, yeah, sure. He was talking about the public execution of Nadal Hassan. And I would like to read that, if that's okay. Sure. I actually have. Do you have something on that? Well, I have the clips just. Yeah. So here's. Feel free to share.

1:02:32 Yeah. Hold on a second. Here is the here was the announcement from the Secretary of War, Pete Heads Egg Seth. Execution by Firing Squad. Army major betrays his country. Radical Islamist kills a bunch of Americans at Fort Hood. Of course, we're going to do it at Fort Hood. We're going to do it on a Thursday. We're going to do it at 1 o'clock, which is when he did it. And it's going to be soldiers with rifles executing the fiery squad. It hadn't been since World War II since we've done that. Well, I kind of like the mentality we had in World War II, which was win, which was. Second time I'm hearing this, he's wheezing. You hear that? Yeah, yeah. He's like, really. You can hear the wind blowing too, where he's at. But to me, it feels like he's kind of hyper about it.

1:03:15 You know, it's not easy for him to be talking like this, I can tell you. I kind of like the mentality we had in World War II, which was when. Which was, understand when the enemy attacks you, you need to stand your ground. So it was radical Islamist terror attack. Remember what Obama called it? Workplace violence? I mean, that's what we're up against. That's the worldview we're up against. It's workplace violence. CVE. We know what it is. It was a radical Islamist attack in uniform inside the ranks. And so he's going to get a firing squad of soldiers, as it should be. And we'll make sure that people are able to watch it, that it's public, because people need to understand that there's serious consequences for these types of things. Has Major Hassan made any final requests, reached out to the president, anything like that to your knowledge?

1:03:58 Don't care. We'll see him on December 3rd. December 3rd at Fort Hood. And then President Trump responded a little more subdued, I think, to some degree. And sources say people across the Army and the Pentagon were caught off guard by the announcement that the execution of the Fort Hood shooter will be public. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth made the announcement in an interview with a far-right podcaster abroad, the USSR, the USS Abraham Lincoln on Wednesday. Hegseth said it would be public because, quote, people need to understand that there's serious consequences for these types of things.

1:04:34 One source says, Hegseth, the acting Army Secretary and Pentagon spokesman Sean Parnell, decided public would mean it would be live streamed. There are two thoughts: don't show it and show it. Because, you know, by showing it, maybe other people won't be doing what he did. So I'll make a decision ultimately. I know what the military would like to do, but we'll make a decision. Okay, so the president has ways to do it. He wasn't usual bravado self on that. He was like, you know, we'll see. I'll make a decision when you're doing it. So Tony Perkins came out with a statement on this. I'm going to read it to you because I really am in alignment with this. I can be swayed by somebody smarter than me, but I'm just saying I like what he said.

1:05:18 He said, as a former police officer and as a pastor, I understand both the purpose and the biblical foundation of capital punishment. It is not merely punishment for a crime. It is also intended to deter others from committing similar acts. Scripture not only provides justification for capital punishment, but in cases of murder, explicitly calls for it. We read this last week. We did. Genesis 9:6 declares, whoever sheds man's blood by man, his blood shall be shed, for in the image of God, he made man. Capital punishment, properly administrated, is not a rejection of the sanctity of human life. It is an affirmation of it. But that does not mean executions should become public spectacles.

1:05:59 So this is where he switches. And I agree. This is where I, my concern was not over capital punishment. Mine was, we settled that last week. My concern was publicizing this, showing it. Now, he gives some, what I think are some sound reasons to be wary of this. He says, This, I oppose the proposed live streaming of the execution of convicted Fort Hood terrorist Nadal Hassan for two reasons. First, when we separate capital punishment from its moral foundation, we risk turning an act of justice into what appears to be an act of vengeance. Rather than affirming the sanctity of human life, a public spectacle of death can communicate the opposite message: the human life has little value.

1:06:39 Second, as House Speaker Mike Johnson has warned, broadcasting Hassan's execution could provide jihadist organizations with a powerful recruiting tool. Rather than deterring future terrorists, it could give them propaganda to inspire more violence. Nadal Hassan should receive the punishment imposed for his horrific crimes. Justice should be carried out, but it should not become entertainment. The purpose of capital punishment is to uphold the value of innocent human life, not to make a spectacle of taking the life of the guilty. Well, there goes my pay-per-view idea. Oh, you have to pay for it? What? Oh, and we're going to make money on this at the same time. Wow.

1:07:23 That's another level. As you were reading that, because I think a lot of people would agree with your stance. Not all pastors, though. In fact, I heard Pastor Josh Howard say he thought it was okay to be public. Yeah, to be public. And I'm thinking this is not the first public execution that has been live streamed. And I want to remind everybody of what happened on the last one. This happened on September 12th when Charlie Kirk was executed, live streamed before the entire world, replayed over and over and over again.

1:08:05 I didn't see any great benefit to that. It made people say horrible things. It started just an entire category of podcasts, and it was shocking. It was shocking to see that. I was like, just think about that. Do we need to see this? I don't think so. That one's still in my mind, that one. And I'm like, okay, I really didn't need to see that then. Yeah, I think it's interesting because when you have execution by injection or various means, electrocution, whatever, it's in a very closed facility.

1:08:44 It's very private. Only certain people can execute. Well, there are witnesses who are witnesses by design. And it's usually a handful of people. And it's not. not videotaped, you know, to be seen forever. So I feel like we're moving back towards the Roman gladiator days where let's throw the Christians out there in there and let's just watch the lions devour them. Or watch the soldiers. I think there was, wasn't it like a Christian monk who jumped into the arena and said to Caesar, You've got to stop this? He actually wound up getting eaten by the lions, but it was a Christian monk who jumped there and said, stop.

1:09:26 And that kind of ended the ended the, you know, this is after Christianity had become Augustina said, this is the official church. Yeah, yeah. And it ended from that. Wow. Yeah. Blood. Bloodsport or whatever you want to call it. Yeah. I understand the anger of Hegseth, and I understand the anger of the military. I do too. And I think it should be reiterated what Hassan did. I mean, killed 13 people, cold blood. Awful. Halawakbar, the whole deal. As a psychologist, he was a psychologist. So think about someone you trust to such a degree. So that should also, that should be something that we're reminded of and we're told over and over.

1:10:10 But yeah, public executions, they're ugly. They're bloody. It's shocking. We don't need it. You know, we say, well, you know, it's going to be limited to pay-per-view or whatever. It's going to end up everywhere. Well, we saw Saddam Hussein get hanged. Yes. We saw Kirk. I didn't need to see that, frankly. We saw Colonel Gaddafi get torn apart by a mob. The list goes on and on and on. It's not pretty. It's not pretty. But it'll provide content for a lot of people. And it'll be monetized, maximized, sensationalized. Well, that's what happened just over a year ago. I just feel like it's

1:10:51 not wise. That's my thought. Well, I think the president's going to make that decision, that he's going to say, no. Oh, you think he'll back he'll yeah, I think he'll say, let's not do that. I mean, you heard him go. I thought it was already decided. So that's good. No, I don't know. I don't have any proof of that. It sounds like they were moving forward with that. So the president can still tell the secretary what he needs to do. And the president keeps saying, well, we'll see about that. I haven't made a decision. As all good men would do. That's the only way to come up with the right decision. Just to follow up on something you've been following about Noah's Ark. Yeah.

1:11:34 And it's just, you know, there's not a lot of mainstream reporting on this. Have you noticed that it's... Yeah, it's a lot of other side, you know, smaller podcasts and different influencers or different outlets have picked it up. Yeah. And the people who are in these clips, and I just want to play it because you don't get it anywhere. Let's see. It's Lauren, it's a former U.S. Senate candidate from Delaware, Edward Zahl, and Lauren Witzka. I believe she's, I'm not sure if she's a scientist or anthropologist.

1:12:11 But there's really a lot of stuff showing up. And where did I have to go to get these clips to get these people who were excited who were part of the Noah Ark Scans Project? X. Alex Jones. Okay. Alex, it was very serendipitous that this was to come out this year. You think of all the things that have happened this year that have shooken people's faith or people have tried to shake people's faith, like the UFO disclosures. They said it was going to make everyone an atheist. When Lauren and I jumped into this project, we knew that God's hand was on it. And going out to it, I mean, Alex, getting to see the valley that Noah and his family would have seen when they got out of the ark was just breathtaking.

1:12:52 At least you put some shots up at the topography. You can see the boat. You can see the ship right there. We have some drops. It's the exact same link the Bible says. Absolutely. Yep. 300 cubit meters. Yep. Which is exactly 515 feet. 510 to 15 feet. So it matches the exact same biblical dimensions as Genesis, and not just length, but also in width. It's 85 feet wide, which is 50 Egyptian cubits as well. So it's exact to the T. The Durabanar formation matches the exact same dimensions in Genesis. It's in the exact same place, the mountains of Ararat. Most people get that confused, and they believe it's on Mount Ararat. Noah's Ark landed on Mount Ararat. Actually, Mount Ararat is a post-flood stratovocano, so it's absolutely impossible for that to have happened.

1:13:36 So it is exactly in the same spot that God said it was, the ancient kingdom of the mountains of Ararat. I'm kind of excited by this. It is cool. I mean, it's kind of like when the Shroud of Turin came out. Right. And that's, man, it's been out a long time. and they keep going back over and over and over. And as new tech is developed, you know, they get another documentary made. It just keeps coming back. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter for me, but it would be kind of cool if it is. Yeah. And, you know, I mean, it's exciting. It's kind of hopeful. This is fascinating. Like they talk about all the rocks, you know, that were have the holes in them. They're massive stones that would have been there to balance and

1:14:19 give the boat stability and all that. Also, there's all these seashells and everything all around there. Not fossilized, actual seashells still, because they haven't been around for millions of years and haven't fossilized. It's fascinating. Yeah. I mean, it really is fascinating. It'll be fun if it all turns out that it is. I mean, I'm looking, I just jumped on X and typed in Noah's Ark. Wow. Hello. Wow. People are excited about this. I mean, this is like unreal. Well, the thing is making models. People like to use this. They see, it's all true, but that's not how you're going to win people.

1:14:56 And that isn't at the end of the day. That's not how you're going to relevant over. But if it turns out to be for real, man, it'll be kind of like, woo, you know, another one. Now, what else? You know, there's, because there's been other things discovered as well. I also saw where a guy has discovered Noah's Ark underneath. I've got it. What do you have now? This is hilarious. I thought you're going to love this. So let me find the picture of it. So I've got a picture. Explorer claims he found the Ark of the Covenant. Oh, in Nigeria. Ark of the Covenant. Isn't that supposed to be in Nigeria? It's supposed to be in Nigeria.

1:15:33 But this one, American explorer Ron Wyatt claimed to have discovered the lost Ark of the Covenant in a chamber beneath Jerusalem, directly below Golgotha, the site of Jesus' crucifixion. He reported finding an earthquake crack extending into the chamber, which he linked to Matthew 27, 51, the earth shoot, and the rocks were split. Inside, he claimed to have found it's a lot of, he claimed, like, there's a lot of past clips here. I'm like, what happened to you? We have a picture as we see this. What is that? That's it. It's in a dusty old chamber. I mean, think of that. Is that over by Golgotha called? No, is that near Ladybird Park?

1:16:16 Is that enchanted rock? Enchanted rock. It could be, actually. So anyway, you know, this stuff comes up from time to time. We see things like that. But, you know, when the Dead Sea Scrolls were discovered, people were probably shaking their heads going, nah. That turns out pretty amazing. Real deal. And so, you know, so could it be that, you know, that Noah's Ark has been discovered? I think it'd be great. If it is, I'm not worried about it if it isn't. Yeah, nice. Same way with this Ark of the Covenant here. I agree. That would be fascinating. I wouldn't go touching it. There's pretty bad stuff happened to people who touched it. I think I'd stay away from it. Let it sit. Yes. But there's a picture of it here on this, and it's kind of interesting. It has the exact right dimensions.

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1:17:45 And from the Time, Talent, and Treasure portion, Brent Stricker from Alexandria, Virginia, which, as you know, is data center central and spook central, sent us $400. Wow. And he says, gentlemen, I pledge to make matching donations to both Noah Genda and We Get To Do This. I love Pastor Jimmy's opening prayers and Adam's enthusiastic amen and hallelujah. Hallelujah. Thank you for your advice and courage from Sir Wild Bill. Oh, and our fine friends over at Guadalupe Bank wanted me to ask all of the people in Get Toon Nation, if you send us a check, and we love getting checks in the P.O.

1:18:28 box, WGTDT donations.com. Please put WGTDT as the pay. They had the whole staffer on. Can we say, yes, you can accept it. And this one came in through the P.O. box. It's a long note, but do you want to read that, brother? You know what? I don't have mine up yet. Oh, you go ahead. I'll read this one. This is from Gwen Cunningham and Annette Shapey, I think, from Canyon Lake, $206.60. And they say they sent a check together. Dear Pastor Jimmy and Adam, my sister and I are sending this donation of $206.60 in memory of our parents, Alan and Irene Smith.

1:19:14 We recently found your podcast and have been devouring the episodes. Thank you for being a voice of reason about how to deal with the daily news, which is filled with fear-mongering. It's so helpful to hear your balanced Christian perspectives on what's going on in our society. The amount of the donation reflects the anniversary dates of our parents' death, which occurred in the month of October. Mom and dad found their church home at Bridge Church in Fredericksburg and attended faithfully for several years until their passing. Mom in late October of 2022 and dad a year later in early October 2023. The body of Christ loved on our family in such meaningful ways during that difficult time. The staff and congregation always remembered dad and reached out to him after mom died.

1:19:58 Lori and the other ladies of the church helped us with food and with planning both our parents' memorial services. Pastor Jimmy came out to the house when we called to tell him our dad was rapidly declining. He gave us the very precious treasure of the assurance of dad's salvation when he shared some of the conversation he had had with our father that day. Daddy died the very next morning, and we will always be so grateful for Pastor Jimmy listening to the prompting of the Holy Spirit and coming out right away when called, because that's what you are. You and Dame Ed are first responders. Thanks. Mom and dad also volunteered with the tea party because it was important to them to get involved to help preserve our freedoms here in America.

1:20:38 It seemed appropriate then that we first came across the podcast when we heard Adam on the Matt Long show. The folks were always well-informed and practical, never interested in sensationalism, and we think they would be so pleased with your podcast there, folks. Even the title you chose for the show, We Get To Do This, is an inspiration, reminding us to have a positive attitude in troubled times. And as that, and that, as the Bible says, who knows but that we have been born for a time such as this. Sincerely, from Gwen Cunningham and Annette Shapey in memory of Alan Smith 10-423 and Irene Smith 10-26-22. I just love that. It was a handwritten note. So sweet. Do you remember?

1:21:21 Yes, I do. I remember sitting at his bedside and asking him because we knew he was in the final hours. And I just was very, I'm very direct in those scenarios. Sure. And he said, absolutely. And he said, and I'm ready. I'm ready to go. When you have somebody tell you that and they know they're going. They're going. They are. They are. They're there. He was persuaded. He was sure. That was a beautiful, beautiful thing. We did his memorial. And to kind of share, I was able to share that with the people there. And there's just something beautiful about believers who pass on because we don't see death the same way the world sees it. No. We don't see it that way. They're promoting.

1:22:06 They're leveling up, you know? And that to me is so beautiful, especially when you're sitting with someone like him who was so sure, so knew what was coming. So good. So that's beautiful. Yeah. Wow. Absolutely beautiful. Man, I appreciate that. So where are we at on donations? Steve, number three. Number three. I've got a whole different list here. I got Mark O'Mack, Jill Price. No, no, no. Did I send you the wrong one? Yeah, that's what you gave me. Really? No. Yeah. That's what I got. Well, that was a mistake. I'm sorry. Odd. And I also gave Annette the wrong one. Well, I will continue.

1:22:49 You go ahead. Yeah. Steve Weiss. We know Steve from Las Vegas, Nevada. Good guy. $77.70, $0.77. He says, Steve and Steph, checking in again. As always, thank you both for the weekly insight and keeping us all grounded. Colleen and Edward Coda from Summit, New Jersey, $20, always with a check, which is sent to the P.O. box. We appreciate that. And okay, so I finally recognize that Dr. Graham Brian Bishko. I should have known within $19.48 that this was actually code for Sir Brian of London.

1:23:27 Ah, there it is. And the reason I should have known is 1948 is the independence of Israel. And he is our boots on the ground in Israel. For Israel, yeah. Adam and Jimmy, I'll stick to using my pod ping email address so this lines up with Stripe. That's a lot of crypto talk there. So Brian of London in Israel this time. You better figure out the significance of the number. Yes, we've got it. We got it, Sir Brian. Sending you love and prayers from Jerusalem, where I spent a couple of days at the now notorious National Conservatism Conference. Just wanted to send you one of the great talks, which was the dinner speaker, Maggie Tabibi, Channel 14 TV news anchor, who broke a fast during her news broadcast with a sip of water and said the blessing on TV during the broadcast.

1:24:12 I want to put this YouTube video in school. Yeah. Because I watched it, and this had never happened before in Israel, that a news anchor had even spoken openly about their faith. Decloaking is happening everywhere. Beautiful. And she's doing a prayer at the end of her newscast. Was that an ex-piece that he sent us, one of the ex-DMs? Yes. It's a YouTube video. People can see her speech. I think it's cool. Fantastic. Love that. I'm telling you, when you decloak in public, people will not throw rocks at you. Everything I thought would go wrong did not happen. It opens the floodgates. It does. People come up and say,

1:24:58 YouTube. Yeah, there you go. Beautiful. It is beautiful. Michael Mason comes in with $10.14. And he says, as Christmas draws near, I hope you will touch on the Christmas tree. Well, we got some time. The Christmas tree has always been a part of my family history, and I have no problem with it. But two years ago, I started also putting up a small nativity set as I feel this is, as I feel with this, I can focus on the birth of Christ, not as an idol, only to remind me what Christmas is about. I think this might be a good topic, and would love to hear your thoughts about this. Michael Mason in New Hampshire, P.S.

1:25:39 As Halloween draws near, I also have started focusing on October 31st, 1517. Martin Luther posted his 95 thesis on the door of the castle church in Wittenberg, Germany, challenging the practice of purchasing forgiveness for sins, arguing instead for salvation by faith alone through God's grace. For me, this seems more fitting. Perhaps another show topic. Well, you are nodding your head here. Yeah, Romans 5:8. I mean, yeah, that's so the Wittenberg door. It was famous where he nailed his theses, 95 of them, really completely countering

1:26:21 the idea of paying for indulgences and the idea of salvation by works. He went back to Romans and talked about salvation is by faith and faith alone. So it's brilliant. Yeah, it's huge, huge deal. Okay, here's some Dutch history for you. Growing up, there was a holiday. They never had Halloween in the Netherlands. Now they do. Well, they have Halloween movies. No one goes out trick-or-treating. But they had a day called St. Martin for St. Martin. Is this the same Saint Martin? Martin Luther? I believe so. No. Could be.

1:27:02 He was later burned at the stake for what he did. I mean, he paid a high price. Kids will go out with lanterns. I got to look into this because I remember all this. It was kind of like a trick-or-treat, but it wasn't. I got to figure this out. Thank you, Michael, for bringing this. Wow, that's fantastic. Now we got stuff to look into. So Romans 5. Let me just give the background drop on this. Therefore, since we've been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. He took that and said, we come to Christ through faith, not through works. This isn't about what we're doing. And this was a complete, I mean, he was considered a heretic at the time, but it was a very bold, brazen move to hammer that onto the door.

1:27:47 No kidding. And then the next scripture after that, through him, we also have obtained access by faith. This is all about faith. Into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God. So he talks about that was what this was all based on. We come to Jesus by faith through grace and not of ourselves. That's Ephesians 2.2.8. So he was laying that out, and it was revolutionary, literally, in the truest sense of the word. It was like a revolution started. And that's, of course, the Lutheran church was birthed out of that, you know, all by faith.

1:28:29 So anyway, man, great, great distinction there. I appreciate that. Wednesday today is this. his birthday. He'll be 62. I'm right there with you, bro. He says, I'm thankful to have made, which I'm thankful to have made, 62, with the grace of God. I hope the get-to nation will pray for me for health and service until the Lord calls me home. Today, I donate $10.14 for John 10, 14. I am the Good Shepherd. I know my sheep and my sheep know me. Come on now. I love these donation numbers. That's fantastic. Nicholas Stark, $5. Thank you, Nicholas. And Dwayne Spellman Jr., as always, $1.53. Thank you also very much for

1:29:13 supporting us. WGTDT donations.com. And of course, you can always subscribe to the sub stack, get the newsletter. You don't have to pay for anything. It's all optional. When they say subscribe, you can just click, I just want it. We want you to do that. So you get the newsletter and you get the episodes always delivered to you as well at wgtdt.com. And you're going to take us out? Well, you already did part of the daily grind. Yeah, I'll do that. But I also got this. This is from the Pickle Princess. Yeah, we got some notes. Yeah. So she sent a beautiful note. And it's kind of an answer to, I made a comment about Wild at Heart being written for men. Well, she ended up reading it and it really impacted her. Oh, nice. So listen, this is cool.

1:29:57 I want to share this because this will help any of the ladies out there that are thinking, okay, well, I can't read that. Good morning, Pastor Jimmy. For some reason, today's Daily Grind made me remember I wanted to email you about something you said in the podcast last week. I was urged to read Wild at Heart years ago. It was presented to me as a good read to understand my then young husband and young son. And it really did. When it talked about, and now it's been years since I read it, so don't quote me, men doing dangerous things and doing things to prove their manhood. It really resonated with me to let my boys be boys, to not coddle them too much, hold my breath and clap when they succeed. So don't discourage women from reading it. In fact, I would highly encourage it as a wife and a mother.

1:30:42 It's kind of a good insight into their minds. Thanks for the daily grinds, and we get to do this. I look forward to them daily and weekly, the Pickle Princess, aka Jody White. So that was great. And that's actually what she said is excellent, really. It is definitely good for women to read and get an understanding, especially if you're raising boys, right? And so anyway. I wouldn't know. I've only been around women and girls my entire life, sisters, mom, everything. You're my first real dude friend. Look at those guns. Come on now. Come on now. So here's the daily grind today. I'm going to go back a couple of days on talking about the weight of every word.

1:31:22 The words we speak matter. And so this is the daily grind. Today's scripture is Proverbs 18, 21. Death and life are in the power of the tongue, and those who love it will eat its fruit. Today's title is The Weight of Every Word. What you say matters. People measure your character by what you do and by what you say. Are you a person of your word? Can people depend on you to do what you say you will do? Words can also produce death or life. Gossip, criticism, and judgment can break one's spirit. Life, encouragement, and hope can lift someone out of the depths of despair.

1:32:02 Speak life because you'll eat what you say. Today, notice the words that come out of your mouth, especially when angry or under duress, you leak out what you are full of. And today's prayer is this. Father, may my words be laced with grace and bring life and hope to those I encounter today. In Jesus' name, everybody said, Amen. All right, everybody. Come on back next Wednesday. We'll be here for another episode of We Get To Do This. This is the life we've been blessed with. This is the gift through this. This is the chance we cannot miss. This is the life who

1:32:47 we get to do this.